[07:46] <pitti> cyphermox: are you going to do the libnl3 library transition?
[07:46] <pitti> (on holiday since yesterday, and I really have to spend some time off the computer)
[07:46] <pitti> . o O { pretty please don't break precise over the holidays so hard! }
[07:46] <pitti> http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/nbs.html has become a mess in just two days again
[08:05]  * micahg thought people weren't supposed to be uploading and forgetting, especially in main
[08:11] <pitti> micahg: they aren't indeed
[08:35] <ricotz> pitti, hi, do you have a moment?
[08:36] <ricotz> pitti, the change for 16_use_synchronous_notifications.patch in http://launchpadlibrarian.net/85261136/gnome-settings-daemon_3.2.1-0ubuntu2_3.2.2-0ubuntu3.diff.gz doesnt look right
[08:37] <ricotz> -+                ca_gtk_play_for_widget (window, 0,
[08:37] <ricotz> ++                ca_gtk_play_for_widget (manager->priv->dialog, 0,
[09:24] <rodrigo_> morning
[12:05]  * ogra_ wonders why the dash in his precise install shows the totem icon for "play music" ... RB is installed 
[12:06] <ogra_> hmm, and it actually stzarts totem if i click it
[13:27] <ricotz> rodrigo_, hi
[13:27] <rodrigo_> hi ricotz
[13:28] <ricotz> rodrigo_, i think i found a problem in a patch of g-s-d
[13:29] <rodrigo_> which one?
[13:29] <ricotz> 16_use_synchronous_notifications.patch which you ported for 3.2.1 > 3.2.2
[13:29] <rodrigo_> oh, that breaks for every update iirc, yes
[13:30] <ricotz> http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-desktop/gnome-settings-daemon/ubuntu/revision/230/debian/patches/16_use_synchronous_notifications.patch#debian/patches/16_use_synchronous_notifications.patch
[13:30] <ricotz> you replaced the window variable
[13:30] <ricotz> i noticed it while porting it for 3.3.3+
[13:31] <rodrigo_> right
[13:32] <rodrigo_> just missed it when merging the upstream code
[13:32] <ricotz> this is present in oneiric too then
[13:33] <rodrigo_> yes
[13:35] <rodrigo_> ok, have to go out for lunch, bbiab
[13:35] <ricotz> rodrigo_, ok, feel free to fix it ;)
[13:45] <cyphermox> asac: ping?
[13:45] <asac> cyphermox: hi. what projects do you want me to hand over again?
[13:46] <cyphermox> asac: connman, ofono, modemmanager
[13:46] <cyphermox> the main problem is setting up mirroring of git trees so that I can setup daily builds
[13:47] <asac> mm done
[13:47] <asac> nm done
[13:47] <asac> cyphermox: ofono done
[13:47] <asac> check things out
[13:47] <cyphermox> asac: thanks
[13:50] <cyphermox> asac: you'll keep handling ~modemmanager? There's two pending
[13:50] <cyphermox> asac: toabctl I've already spoken to and explained the process and use for the team
[13:51] <asac> nm team is part of mm team
[13:51] <asac> only rarely you need to apply to mm team i geuss
[13:51] <cyphermox> yeah
[13:52] <cyphermox> asac: well, thanks, and have nice holidays :)
[13:53] <asac> thx and you too!
[18:58] <achiang> durr... http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/777774/
[18:58] <achiang> empathy was forcibly removed from my system... known bug?
[19:00] <micahg> dist-upgrades aren't always safe in the devel release :)
[19:01] <achiang> agreed
[19:01] <achiang> just didn't know if it was a known issue or not... i could file a bug
[19:02] <micahg> my guess would be mirror lag since there's no build failure, I'm trying a dist-upgrade myself in a moment to check
[19:02] <micahg> yeah, working fine for me
[19:04] <micahg> it could also be archive skew depending on when you did it
[19:05] <kenvandine> achiang, probably libfolks
[19:05] <kenvandine> it had a new binary
[19:05] <kenvandine> if you dist-upgrade before the new binary was installed it would want to remove empathy
[19:05] <achiang> i see
[19:06] <achiang> thanks kenvandine and micahg
[19:06] <kenvandine> achiang, np
[19:07] <achiang> kenvandine: well, now i'm getting a crasher. :-/
[19:08] <kenvandine> in empathy? yay :)
[19:08] <achiang> oh hrm
[19:08] <achiang> 2nd time around it wants to work again
[19:08] <achiang> this is weird.
[19:08] <kenvandine> did you click on it in the indicator?
[19:08] <achiang> i launched it from the indicator
[19:08] <kenvandine> yeah, known bug
[19:08] <kenvandine> fixed in trunk
[19:09] <achiang> then gmail chat forgot its password
[19:09] <achiang> so i clicked on the pencil to edit the account info
[19:09] <achiang> and that's when it crashed
[19:09] <kenvandine> oh... that is different
[19:09] <kenvandine> humm
[19:09] <kenvandine> apport catch it?
[19:09] <achiang> trying to reproduce
[19:10] <achiang> kenvandine: can't reproduce it. :(
[19:10] <achiang> sorry
[19:10] <kenvandine> bummer...
[19:11] <dobey> i wish i didn't have to pbuilder-foo updaet as a separate command from building a .dsc
[19:11] <dobey> so annoying, that
[19:12] <achiang> kenvandine: argh, i can't authenticate to google's jabber now. :(
[19:12] <kenvandine> that is interesting
[19:12] <kenvandine> are you getting auth failures?
[19:12] <achiang> where would they appear? .xsession-errors?
[19:12] <kenvandine> it should give you an infobar at the top of the contact list
[19:13] <achiang> yes, getting auth failure
[19:13] <achiang> i just regenerated a new app-specific password in google too
[19:15] <kenvandine> ok, so it lets you put in a new password and still fails?
[19:15] <kenvandine> is this account created in empathy-accounts or gnome-online-accounts?
[19:15] <achiang> correct, can put in a new password and it fails
[19:16] <achiang> not sure about empathy-accounts vs g-o-a
[19:16] <kenvandine> open empathy-accounts
[19:16] <kenvandine> select the account
[19:16] <achiang> i could try to remove the account and create a new one inside empathy, i guess?
[19:16] <kenvandine> it will tell you
[19:18] <achiang> kenvandine: http://chizang.net/alex/tmp/empathy-accounts.png
[19:18] <kenvandine> ok, so that rules out goa
[19:19] <kenvandine> achiang, try creating a new one and see if it works
[19:19] <kenvandine> achiang, maybe it is because you are using an app specific password?
[19:19]  * kenvandine doesn't know anything about that
[19:20] <achiang> kenvandine: no, this has worked for months, until empathy was removed; then i added it back and it broke
[19:20] <achiang> maybe i am missing some other lib?
[19:20] <achiang> kenvandine: removing and recreating an account doesn't help
[19:20] <kenvandine> humm
[19:22] <achiang> kenvandine: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/777802/
[19:22] <achiang> does that look right to you?
[19:22] <kenvandine> folks doesn't have anything to do with auth though
[19:25] <kenvandine> after empathy got removed and re-added
[19:25] <kenvandine> achiang, did  you logout and back in?
[19:25]  * kenvandine wonders if the empath-auth process never died
[19:25] <achiang> kenvandine: i rebooted
[19:25] <kenvandine> :(
[19:25] <achiang> and i don't have an empathy-auth process running right now
[19:26] <achiang> should there be one?
[19:26] <kenvandine> not necessarliy
[19:26] <kenvandine> but that gets run when it tries to auth
[19:26] <achiang> hm, there's an empathy-debugger
[19:26] <kenvandine> that is just the log viewer
[19:27] <achiang> there are no auth logs?
[19:27] <kenvandine> the auth failure should be in the gabble log
[19:28] <kenvandine> and you have empathy 3.3.2 right?
[19:28] <achiang> 3.3.2-0ubuntu1
[19:28] <achiang> where is the gabble log?
[19:29] <kenvandine> you have to use empathy-debugger to view it
[19:29] <kenvandine> select gabble from the select drop down up top
[19:30] <achiang> i see: mission-control, sofiasip, file-transfer, indicator-approver, and logger
[19:30] <achiang> maybe that is my problem
[19:30] <kenvandine> oh!
[19:30] <kenvandine> do you have telepathy-gabble installed?
[19:30] <achiang> ii  telepathy-gabble                       0.15.1-0ubuntu1
[19:30] <kenvandine> humm
[19:31] <kenvandine> you should have a log if it tried to use it
[19:31] <kenvandine> is there a telepathy-gabble process running?
[19:31] <achiang> nope
[19:31] <achiang> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/777812/
[19:33] <kenvandine> humm
[19:33] <kenvandine> look under mission-control
[19:33] <kenvandine> it should at least show where it tried gabble
[19:34] <kenvandine> maybe gabble isn't starting?
[19:37] <achiang> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/777818/
[19:38] <achiang> kenvandine: perhaps line 245?
[19:38] <achiang> and higher up, there are lines 225 and 226
[19:39] <kenvandine> no possible handlers
[19:39] <kenvandine> interesting
[19:40] <kenvandine> achiang, what do you have in /usr/share/telepathy/clients/
[19:41] <achiang> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/777825/
[19:49] <nessita> ok, router went crazy, had to reboot it
[19:49] <nessita> dobey: did I miss something?
[19:50] <dobey> nessita: in here, or in #ubuntuone? i don't know what the last thing you saw, was :)
[19:50] <achiang> kenvandine: well... i just rebooted again, and now jabber works. unfortunately sip is broken, and that is much more important to me
[19:50] <kenvandine> ugh
[19:50] <nessita> dobey: in #ubuntuone, sorry
[19:50] <kenvandine> so just a reboot... nothing else?
[19:50] <achiang> kenvandine: control-m to bring up the dialing interface; i type in any numeral, and the windows all go away
[19:50] <achiang> kenvandine: right, just a reboot
[19:50] <achiang> kenvandine: the contact window and the dialing window
[19:50] <achiang> they go away
[19:50] <kenvandine> ok, that could be a new bug introduced in empathy 3.3.2 :)
[19:51] <achiang> but empathy seems to stay up
[19:51] <achiang> kenvandine: can you try and reproduce?
[19:51] <kenvandine> yeah, it is unrelated
[19:51] <kenvandine> try installing empathy-call
[19:51] <achiang> i am using telepathy-sofiasip
[19:51] <kenvandine> maybe the latest sip stuff won't work with the fallback call interface
[19:52] <achiang> brb
[19:54] <achiang> kenvandine: after installing empathy-call, no improvement
[19:54] <achiang> (and another reboot just for giggles)
[19:54] <kenvandine> :(
[19:54] <kenvandine> ok, look at the sip logs
[19:54] <kenvandine> i'd have to figure out how to setup sip
[20:04] <kenvandine> achiang, for me it is crashing when i type the first diget in
[20:04] <kenvandine> digit even
[20:04] <kenvandine> like it is trying to autocomplete something
[20:04] <achiang> kenvandine: that is exactly the behavior i'm seeing
[20:05] <kenvandine> oh... this looks folks related
[20:07] <kenvandine> achiang https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/empathy/+bug/907501
[20:07] <ubot2> kenvandine: Error: <Bugtracker.plugin.Launchpad instance at 0xa5ae8cc> bug 907501 not found
[20:08] <kenvandine> achiang, i'll look at this tonight
[20:08] <achiang> kenvandine: thanks!
[20:08] <achiang> much appreciated
[20:08] <kenvandine> thx for finding it :)
[20:08] <achiang> wonder why apport doesn't want to catch that for me
[20:08] <kenvandine> it did for me
[20:09] <achiang> kenvandine: np, i was poking around in this space because the dialpad UI once the call is established is horrible
[20:09] <achiang> and i wanted to fix it
[20:09] <achiang> well, also, i use this on an hourly basis to dial into way too many concalls
[20:10] <kenvandine> achiang, it might not be horrible now that you have empathy-call installed
[20:10] <kenvandine> this is the new experimental clutter-gst based call interface
[20:11] <kenvandine> which is getting major work done this cycle
[20:11] <kenvandine> ok, this should be fixed in 3.3.3, updating now :)
[20:11] <achiang> kenvandine: wait, what? you just fixed 907501?
[20:11] <kenvandine> upstream did :)
[20:12] <kenvandine> i think
[20:12] <kenvandine> either way updating to 3.3.3 was on my todo list for today :)
[20:13] <achiang> a beer for you, sir
[20:27] <toabctl> i got the debian-dir of the glib branch from lp:~ubuntu-desktop/glib/ubuntu glib.head . How can i get the source package now?
[20:31] <toabctl> fakeroot debian/rules get-orig-source does not work because source version is 2.31.4.tested-0ubuntu4
[20:32] <toabctl> see http://paste.ubuntu.com/777885/
[20:57] <kenvandine> achiang, well i no longer get that crash... but a different one :/
[21:15] <kenvandine> achiang, i just uploaded 3.3.3, and it no longer crashes when typing the number in
[21:15] <kenvandine> however it does crash which i click "Audio Call"
[21:15] <kenvandine> so different bug
[21:16] <kenvandine> but... i reproduced the exact same behavior with 3.3.1 as well
[21:16] <kenvandine> so perhaps this isn't a new bug
[21:16] <kenvandine> achiang, was it working for you before the 3.3.2 update?
[21:16] <kenvandine> if so, perhaps my account isn't working or something
[21:16] <kenvandine> i haven't used it in years
[21:38] <achiang> kenvandine: yes, it was definitely working since like, mid-november
[21:38] <achiang> kenvandine: until basically yesterday
[21:38] <achiang> or today, rather
[21:38] <kenvandine> achiang, ok, cool
[21:38] <kenvandine> so maybe it will work for you
[21:38] <achiang> let me see
[21:39] <kenvandine> let me know please
[21:40] <achiang> kenvandine: hm, hasn't hit the mirror yet
[21:40] <kenvandine> achiang, not published yet
[21:40] <kenvandine> give it an hour or so
[21:40] <achiang> ok
[21:40] <kenvandine> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/precise/+source/empathy/3.3.3-0ubuntu1