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hansinDoes anyone know anything about the blink cursor when you log into the console? I know I can disable it, but thought it would make sense by now to have it disabled by default. I thought the blinking cursor cause the CPU to wake up from sleep states, so a power drain. Maybe I am off on that.02:35
twbI doubt the blinking cursor consumes significant resources.02:39
twbScreen blanking should trip by default after 10 minutes of inactivity.02:39
samba35how to configure tap0 device02:41
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samba35i am able to configure tap device but how do i save/store prenatally02:53
twbBefore birth?02:54
hansintwb: okay, thanks. I guess I was hoping there was a functional reason to have it disabled by default like RHEL. It is a water torture sort of thing for me. Absolutely hate blink cursors.03:05
twbman setterm, IIRC03:05
twbHmm, maybe not.  I'm not sure where that's configured03:05
twbsetterm -cursor off hides it altoghether03:06
hansinThat is okay, I have a command written down that disables it. I am not on a linux box right now, so cannot remember, but basically you echo a 0 or 1 to some file.03:07
twbOh, probably something in /proc then03:07
hansinyeah, that sounds right.03:08
hansinor /sys03:08
twister004hi guys... how can I setup a reverse VPN server on ubuntu server such that the server initiates the connection, that way, a NAT is not needed on the router....03:56
twbIPv6 ?03:58
twister004twb... no.. IPv403:58
twister004twb: I've heard of some reverse VPN servers, where the server initiates the connection, all the client has to do is just connect... and no NAT is requried03:59
twbIf the problem is "I have a NAT" the solution is "migrate to IPv6"04:01
twister004twb: is there no other way?.. like reverse SSH tunnel... or any software?04:03
twbThere may be other ways; those ways are Wrong04:03
twister004twb: why's that?04:04
twister004twb: can I use openvpn over proxy?04:12
yabootrying to install a binary driver, how can I manually add a driver.04:13
uvirtbotNew bug: #907161 in bind9 (main) "BIND9 server lockup" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/90716104:26
twister004Can someone please tell me how I can have a VPN server behind a NAT gateway and use it without setting up NAT on the gateway?04:29
yabootrying to modprobe some drivers, know the drivers are in the /lib/modules/kernel/dir, but keeps stating cannot find the drivers, do I have to register the drivers04:34
twbYou cannot simply drop .ko files in a dir and expect them to work04:38
twbHowever I don't support binary drivers, so you're on your own.04:38
yabootwb I compiled the drivers myself, can see the drivers .ko files on the lib/modules dir, but cannot modprobe them05:11
twbyaboo: suggest you read up on DKMS05:12
yaboook dkms, also there the ltmodem drivers from the repo, and cannot be found05:12
ChmEarlthe network config file /etc/network/interfaces: is there a way to syntax check this without restarting interfaces or the whole network?06:37
twbyaboo: is this for a dialup modem?06:38
yabootwb yes06:39
twbyaboo: throw it out and buy one that has a serial port06:39
twbyaboo: it is NOT worth the hassle06:39
yabootwb very hard to find in Australia now06:39
yabootwb yes know not worht the hassle, want to use it for faxing06:39
twbdealextreme or something might have one, I dunno06:39
twbSecond ddg hit is newegg.com claiming to still be selling US Robo modems06:40
twbhttp://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1682510413506:41
yaboothanks twb06:41
twbI think that's actually more or less what I'm using only my one was bought in like 197806:42
uvirtbotNew bug: #907197 in nova (main) "ip address can't be injected into the instance when using lxc " [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/90719708:06
koolhead11hi all08:09
uvirtbotNew bug: #907206 in keystone (universe) "SPACES missed in /usr/share/man/man8/keystone.8.gz" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/90720608:25
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uvirtbotNew bug: #907227 in krb5 (main) "krb5 (libkrb5-3) 1.10+dfsg~alpha1-6 breaks on samba <= 2:3.6.1-2 making upgrades and installs broken" [Critical,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/90722709:32
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uvirtbotNew bug: #907250 in samba (main) "Please merge Debian into Precise - libkrb5-3: Breaks: libsmbclient (<= 2:3.6.1-2)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/90725010:26
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caribouMorning, trivial launchpad question10:51
caribouIf I want to propose a fix to vm-builder, smoser suggested that I create a branch & propose it for a merge10:51
caribouwhich bzr push URL should I use to upload the vm-builder branch I want to propose ?10:52
caribouI know how to do it for a project I'm a member of, but this is not the case for vm-builder10:52
xranbycaribou: I think you can push it to your private bzr repository at launchpad and then the branch can be pulled in by a sponsor of the vm-builder team10:54
caribouxranby: ah ok, that would explain why, unlike with my projects, I was unable to "propose for merge" in LP10:54
micahgcaribou: http://developer.ubuntu.com/packaging/html/fixing-a-bug.html10:55
micahgtowards the end it explains what to do with the branches10:55
cariboumicahg: thanks, that's what I  was looking for10:57
uvirtbotNew bug: #907152 in nova (main) "Error: unable to connect to '/var/run/libvirt/libvirt-sock', libvirtd may need to be started: No such file or directory" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/90715211:17
smosercaribou, you should be able to push to lp:~caribou/vm-builder/your-branch-name13:31
caribousmoser: I did that but then, I was not able to propose a merge13:31
caribouso I followed micahg's advice & it worked13:32
caribousmoser: so you should see the branch available for review now13:32
caribousmoser: I pushed it to /ubuntu/precise/vm-builder13:33
jonludlamzul: are you around?13:36
zuljonludlam: about to start my holidays13:36
jonludlamme too :-)13:36
jonludlamwas just wondering about the xen packages13:36
zulwhat about them?13:36
jonludlamI believe qemu-dm wants to load its keymaps from /usr/share/qemu/keymaps13:37
jonludlambut the qemu dir seems to be /usr/share/qemu-linaro these days13:37
jonludlamor at least, that's where the keymaps are found13:37
zuljonludlam: yeah ill probably look at it over christmas but im just about to run out the door13:38
jonludlamok13:38
jonludlam1 quick thing more then13:38
zulsure13:38
jonludlamwill you be pulling 4.1.2-2?13:38
jonludlamit's got some new ocaml libs packaged up with it13:38
zuljonludlam: yes13:39
jonludlamexcellent, good news. thanks!13:39
jonludlamhave a good holiday :-)13:39
smosercaribou, fyi, the branch i proposed pushing to is the *upstream* branch, versus the ubuntu branch.13:47
smosereither is fine for this.13:47
caribousmoser: ah, ok, I see the difference13:55
koolhead11smoser: http://uec-images.ubuntu.com/oneiric/  is from where i will get the cloud images14:00
smoserhttp://cloud-images.ubuntu.com would be preferred (only different in name)14:01
smoserremember that daily builds get zero testing14:01
smoserand that you can (and should) use the machine formated information at http://cloud-images.ubuntu.com/query14:02
koolhead11cool14:03
koolhead11smoser: i dont see this url anywer on cloud.ubuntu.com, am i missing sumthing14:03
smoserwhere did you see uec-images link?14:06
koolhead11smoser:  today from google. :D14:06
koolhead11hello Daviey14:07
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smoseradam_g, awake?15:38
smoseradam_g, when you get in, is https://code.launchpad.net/~gandelman-a/ubuntu/precise/cobbler-enlist/avahi/+merge/85646 still relevant ?15:39
smoser(there are merge conflicts)15:39
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LcawteHi, was there any power related changes added for 11.04, because my server seems to stop just before post ends when I use 11.04, and it worked fine in 10.1015:49
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Lcawtehmm, what does Ubuntu use to manage power? Because for some reason I don't have power nap, and I can't find what is used to manage power etc, because my computer doesnt boot 11.04 or 11.10 but does 10.10 fine16:48
edgyhallyn: hi16:50
LcawteAnyone have any idea what I can do to fix this?17:00
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smosermmm_, around ?17:09
SpamapSLcawte: not sure what is broken17:20
SpamapSLcawte: if your machine is turning *off* at boot.. that seems like a kernel bug.17:20
aljosaanybody knows what is the last version of ubuntu that works with ibm db2 (partner ppa) w/ only apt-get install and no other system wide modifications?17:21
smoseranyone know have idas as to why i cnanot recreate bug 854866 on debian ?17:23
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 854866 in ganglia "some ganglia packages won't install because of useradd" [High,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/85486617:23
smoserSpamapS, ^17:25
SpamapSsmoser: good question, reading17:26
SpamapSsmoser: maybe the useradd or groupadd fails quietly in Debian where ours does not?17:27
smoserthat was my only thought too, but looking at the "Remainging changes" in a shadow source package doesn't mention anything like that.17:28
SpamapSyeah I don't think we'd want to break all those user/group adds17:28
rbasakhey zul, I can look at bug 899427 and bug 905527 unless you've already got plans?17:30
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 899427 in horizon "not lintian clean" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/89942717:30
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 905527 in horizon "Apache should be restarted after installing horizon." [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/90552717:30
zulrbasak: plans is called holiday17:30
zul:)17:30
rbasak:-)17:30
rbasakI've still got two days left!17:30
zulim not here :)17:31
smoserA poor excuse for picking a man's pocket every twenty-fifth of December!17:31
* rbasak will do the horizon bugs in zul's absense then :)17:31
rbasakerm...right after I learn to spel17:31
LcawteSpamapS: no, it just hangs17:51
SpamapSrbasak: its ovarreitied17:52
SpamapSLcawte: if you remove 'quiet' from the commandline args, you might get some clue as to what it is hanging on17:52
SpamapSLcawte: when the grub menu shows up, you can edit the arguments17:53
LcawteSpamapS: it doesn't go to grub17:53
Lcawteit finishes all the stuff in post and then hangs just before where it would go to grub17:53
SpamapSLcawte: thats pretty seriously broken then.17:54
SpamapSLcawte: you may want to boot from a live CD/USB key and use that to re-install grub.17:54
LcawteIt doesn't seem to be grub though, I can put the disk in another machine and it'll work fine17:55
SpamapSLcawte: http://odzangba.wordpress.com/2011/05/14/455/17:55
SpamapSLcawte: thats beyond my skills then. :-/17:55
SpamapSLcawte: its entirely possible, though, that there is some weird compatibility/geometry problem.17:56
smoserSpamapS, just fyi, i found out why i couldn't reproduce on debian. i was using olderl package version in debian and http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=620505 caused this regression18:07
uvirtbotDebian bug 620505 in gmetad "gmetad: fails to purge - command (deluser|adduser) in postrm not found" [Important,Fixed]18:07
SpamapSsmoser: I'm not sure I understand, but I trust that you do, so I won't pay it any more mind. :)18:08
smoserubuntu has newer version than i was trying to reproduce with on debian stable.18:09
smoserthe newer version (debian testing) recreates the bug.18:09
adam_gsmoser: gah, i think there have been merges since that proposal. deleted, ill rebase and resubmit since it looks like we'll be using the C version utility of that after all18:11
SpamapSsmoser: I read "olderl" as "oldperl" .. now I see it was just a typo. haha.18:12
smoseroldperl does suck18:13
pmatulisis anybody here successfully using kerberos with apache?18:40
smoserSpamapS, you have thoughts on my question in -devel ?18:41
smosermmm_, its regarding your branch for ganglia at https://code.launchpad.net/~mark-mims/ubuntu/precise/ganglia/useradd18:42
SpamapSsmoser: you mean m_318:42
smoserah. dagum 3 ms18:42
SpamapSm_3: ^^ smoser has been calling you mmm_ ;)18:43
smoserm_3,18:43
smoseri've been calling him other things too, but that was the nicest of the bunch18:43
smoser(joking)18:43
uvirtbotNew bug: #900972 in lxc "lxc instance console output spewed to stdout" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/90097219:31
iToasthow do i remove LAMP20:14
iToastand reinstall it20:14
ikoniawhy ?20:15
ikoniawhat have you done ?20:15
jmarsdensudo tasksel remove lamp-server   # if you installed it using sudo tasksel install lamp-server20:20
ikoniahe doesn't need to remove it20:21
jmarsden<iToast> how do i remove LAMP    was the question being asked... I thought...20:23
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smoserhallyn, around ?20:27
smoseri tihnk kvm user-net is worse than it used to be.20:27
smoserof course i have no data to back that up20:27
ikoniajmarsden: correct, but after reading what's been posted in other channels, he doesn't have to reinstall20:28
smoserother than libvirt is there any way that people use kvm and get non "usernet" networking ?20:29
smoseri'm used to something like this, but its networking is painful right now: time kvm -drive file=orchestra.disk,if=virtio,boot=on -cdrom custom.iso    -net nic -net user,hostfwd=tcp::2222-:22 -m 1024    -nographic -serial file:serial-console.log20:30
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jmarsdensmoser: See http://www.linux-kvm.org/page/Networking for some ideas on bridging using -net nic,macaddr=$macaddress -net tap    for example...20:32
smoseryeah... i just dont like the "i have to be root" stuff.... the user-net was so noice.20:33
smoseractually... it seems like: model=virtio20:33
smosermade a significant difference.20:34
smoserwhere significant == maybe 50x or better20:34
jmarsdenThat's... pretty significant :)20:34
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mzazaI can't find ;extension=mysql.so20:38
smoseryeah. now i'm getting ~ 10MB/s on a 100Mb/s network.20:38
mzazaShould I just add it anywhere, in the /etc/php5/apache2/php.ini file ?20:38
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mzazaI have been having a problem for 2 days in configuring my local webserver, isn't this a help channel or what?20:42
RoyKmzaza: just installing php5-mysql should do that automatically20:42
mzazaRoyK: It's already installed :-S20:43
RoyKmzaza: then it should work - what does phpinfo() have to say?20:44
mzazaRoyK: Lots of things but I guess, it's enabled.20:45
RoyKmzaza: if it lists mysql as enabled, it is20:47
mzazaRoyK: I just created a database and imported it's tables from phpmyadmin, and then created a symbolic link for the website in /var/www but I get an error "The site database appears to be down" !20:47
RoyKhave you configured the webapp correctly?20:47
RoyKit usually needs a username, password, dbname, and perhaps dbhost and dbport20:48
mzazaRoyK: I tried it on a friends windows laptop running easyphp and it worked perfectly.20:48
mzazarackisland.com/zaza.zip this is the site and it's sql if you would like to give a look at it's config.php20:48
RoyKis mysql running? can you connect to the database manually? can you connect from a php test script?20:49
mzazaHaven't tried that. Can you point me to a test script example?20:49
RoyKphp.net20:49
RoyKthere's tons of test code there20:49
mzazaOK, I'll check it now.20:50
mzazaRoyK: Successfully connected :-/ and showed tables in the database.20:52
RoyKthen it works... all you have to do is configure that webapp correctly :รพ20:53
smoserRoAkSoAx, are you around ?20:53
mzazaRoyK: What's strange is that the same webapp worked perfectly on my friends windows machine, and it worked with another friend. If you have some time to spare could you check the config file yourself =) ?20:55
mzazaRoyK: What's even strange is that it works well on a server running linux + cpanel!20:56
RoyKno, sorry20:56
mzazaok, thanks :)20:56
mzazaRoyK: Just one more thing why it works here rackisland.com/zaza%20(2)/ which is a linux server and it doesn't run on mine?! It has to be something with my configuration or something I'm missing.20:58
RoyKmzaza: sorry, I just don't know20:59
mzazanp :) ty21:00
EvilResistanceanyone know why an ext4 partition would become unstable and unclean, thereby requiring an fsck from an external disk to fix the system?21:11
SpamapSEvilResistance: there are a number of reasons21:13
EvilResistancewhat're the most common ones21:14
SpamapSEvilResistance: disk errors, reboot during heavy write activity.. a kernel bug... "bit rot"21:14
SpamapSEvilResistance: powering off with disk drives' write cache enabled is another one21:14
EvilResistancepower failure during a shutdown procedure (i.e. incomplete shutdown)?21:15
SpamapSPossibly21:15
SpamapSjournalling helps with these, but sometimes its just a mess21:15
EvilResistancemmm21:16
EvilResistancewell i've had to boot into either an external system or a livecd in order to run fsck just to fix the partition twice in the past 3 weeks21:16
EvilResistancesigns of system failure perhaps?21:17
SpamapSEvilResistance: are you letting the fsck finish?21:18
EvilResistancemhm21:18
SpamapSEvilResistance: definitely inspect your logs for errors. thats abnormal.21:18
EvilResistanceSpamapS:  I just received the UPS i ordered a few days ago, once its all charged up, is there a way to get ubuntu server to check the power remaining in said UPS (Uninterruptible Power Supply, aka battery backup), and auto-shutdown when the power gets to a certain level?  I'm pretty certain at this point the power failures caused by some storms are causing this issue.21:23
SpamapSEvilResistance: yeah there are daemons that will talk to the UPS's and shutdown gracefully21:24
SpamapSI haven't set such a thing up in a long time, but apcupsd was a good one "back in the day"21:25
guntbert!apcupsd | EvilResistance21:25
guntbertEvilResistance: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/apcupsd21:26
RoAkSoAxsmoser: here21:26
smoserRoAkSoAx, bug 90585421:26
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 905854 in unity-2d "memory leak in unity-2d-panel" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/90585421:26
smoserfix uploaded.21:26
smoserhm..21:26
smoserfuny21:26
smoserhow about 90752521:27
smoserdoes that make more sense ?21:27
smoserbug 90752521:27
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 907525 in cobbler "python-cobbler fails install without python-support" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/90752521:27
EvilResistanceguntbert:  thanks21:27
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smoserbut, RoAkSoAx if you want to fix that memory leak in unity-2d that'd be great too21:29
RoAkSoAxsmoser: right, should not depend on python-support as it uses dh_python221:29
RoAkSoAxsmoser: and the postinst should probably be taken care automatically21:30
RoAkSoAxby dh_python221:30
smosershoot. yeah, should have taken it all the way out21:31
smoseri did not21:31
smoserjust ripped otu that section. but the whole thing is not needed now.21:31
RoAkSoAxyeah21:31
aarcaneso I'm working on planning a deployment of virtualization around my site.  I've run into a snafu.  I'm wanting to devote two systems to virtualization, which are intended to bounce virtual machines back and forth between them as needed.21:34
aarcaneBut I've got two types of systems I want to run.  Stateless and Stateful.  I want to run the Stateless machines as cloud instances in UEC, and the stateful machines in libvirt.21:34
aarcaneI can't find any good documentation on how (if at all) the two will interact21:35
aarcanealso, I will need to ensure that the stateful machines' images are synced in realtime, and can't find good documentation for that either.21:35
smoserRoAkSoAx, so should i remove that file entirely and push an UNRELEASED to lp:precise/cobbler ?21:37
aarcaneany ubuntu/UEC/libvirt specific help would be much appreciated21:37
RoAkSoAxsmoser: you can go ahead and upload it cause otherwise it might get lost on lp:precise/cobbler21:38
smoseryeah.. that sucks. i dont thin its worth an upload though21:39
smoserwell... if it gets lost, then maybe sometime i'll remember it21:40
smoseri just pushed there.21:40
RoAkSoAxsmoser: ok ;)21:46
adam_gsmoser: hmph i *just* hit the same bug building something against python-nova and python-glance21:57
adam_gsmoser: why would that be popping up across packages at the same time? i dont think those two have had any changes wrt that stuff in a while22:04
smoseryou're doing this in EC2?22:04
smoserpython-support left the images i think. previously one or 2 packages actually listed it as a dependency so lots of others got by without it22:04
smoserbut now the images dont' have that by default22:04
smoseradam_g, to work around, just install python-support first22:05
adam_gsmoser: im actually running during packages builds in chroot22:05
smoserwell the source of the problem is the same.22:06
smoserthey needed it, but didn't declare it and previously just got it22:06
adam_gright22:06
adam_gsmoser: so, python-support as a build depends should probably just be removed along with the *.postinst?22:09
smoserwell what was failing ?22:09
smoserthe build actually failed ?22:09
smoseri'd ask in #ubuntu-devel22:09
adam_gsmoser: the postinst on both, during install. haven't rebuild without22:09
smosera.) because people there know more than me (doku)22:09
smoserb.) because i have to run22:09
adam_gcya22:10
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m_3smoser: hey... do I need to do something else with the ganglia/useradd branch?22:16
uvirtbotNew bug: #907543 in nova (main) "python-glance fails to install during postinst: update-python-modules: not found" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/90754322:31
twbSo you know how ubuntu debconf uses magenta instead of blue?23:17
twbApparently during 12.04 mini.iso, if you mistype the root password the second time, it goes back to blue when you re-answer the password question23:18
twbAlso apparently precise (unlike lucid) isn't guessing the domain and NTP server from the DHCP response options, although that could be some exciting new heisenbug here...23:25
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