[00:00] has anyone had experience with wubi? [00:11] monsterwizard: Yep. [00:11] What's the problem? [00:12] I have an error [00:12] and it tells me to refer to this file [00:12] http://pastebin.com/VtkG7tsF [00:22] IOError: [Errno 13] Permission denied: 'F:\\wubildr' [00:22] Do you have permission to run Wubi? [00:37] ahh the problem was python === Azelphur_ is now known as Azelphur [02:28] the problem is always python === Guest72662 is now known as ianto === ianto is now known as cgriff [05:11] morning [05:16] hi czajkowski [05:17] \o [05:18] Why is everyone up this early? :) [05:24] heading to the airport [05:24] czajkowski: it's not snowing! [05:25] I know this is good [05:25] :) [05:25] czajkowski: have a nice flight, etc. [05:25] MartijnVdS: cheers, whats your excuse for being up this early ? [05:26] czajkowski: going to work in half an hour [05:26] czajkowski: also, I'm one time zone ahead, so it's 6:26 [05:26] MartijnVdS: ahh where are you? [05:26] the Netherlands, as usual :) [05:27] MartijnVdS: didnt know that [05:27] * dutchie doing night shift :) [05:27] dutchie: fun! [05:28] right time to head [05:28] toodles [05:28] I'm also considering visiting the "glass house" in Leiden -- they've locked 3 radio DJs inside for a week for charity [08:27] morning [08:28] morning [08:52] morning [09:06] Morning [09:10] morning [09:12] Morning [09:16] oops - the czajkowski effect on travel is in full swing ;) expect delays [09:24] \o/ [09:25] * daubers does like it when he can hire people and get's responses to job ads not from agencies [09:32] * TheOpenSourcerer thinks he might have had a dodgy pint last night. [09:33] Good morning peeps :) [09:34] New kernel = restart time. Boo :( [09:34] good morning [09:34] * bigcalm tickles christel before vanishing [09:35] VANISHING CALM?! [09:35] Better than Vanishing Clam [09:35] I shall return! [09:35] hahaha [09:36] oh i remember when i kept typoing, and then decided to adopt said spelling, your handle as bigclam :D [09:36] Yep :) [09:42] morning [09:43] * bigcalm has returned! [09:43] Hi popey [09:43] ?29 [09:43] BAH! [09:43] Na, 32 [09:43] ?46 [09:46] http://www.ustream.tv/channel/santaclauslive-inside-cam [09:47] That's creepy [09:53] Moaning [09:53] Santa's coming soon! [09:53] heh [10:05] Yay [10:05] * jutnux becomes a 2 year old once more [10:05] C# is fast becoming my favourite language [10:06] Other than Python & Java [10:07] Speaking of Java, I went to use an ATM This morning which had a Java error plastered across the screen [10:08] smittix: ooo, did you take pics? [10:08] could have been the adverts they use... [10:09] Was going to but around here there has been a big press release about lebanese loops being used. So didn't want to look suspicious heh [10:09] heh ah [10:29] * gmb digs up popey's mumbuntu blog posts in preparation for installing inlawbuntu at the weekend. [10:29] Doesn't quite have the same ring to it [10:29] ruhroh [10:29] No [10:29] Could also be known as arghargharghwhywhywhybuntu [10:29] Depends, really. [10:37] GAWGWAARGHARGLBL? [10:38] yes. [11:00] good morning everyone, === MH0- is now known as MH0 [11:14] loes [11:16] yo! === Lcawte|Away is now known as Lcawte [12:38] [Ubuntu UK Podcast] S04E22  The Unbeliever - http://podcast.ubuntu-uk.org/2011/12/21/s04e22-the-unbeliever/ [12:50] popey, Daviey: am I still in the mirrors list for the UUPC? :-) [12:50] hi [13:09] [Jono Bacon] Quality In Ubuntu - http://www.jonobacon.org/2011/12/21/quality-in-ubuntu/ [13:13] * aquarius punches popey for the ripping dvds comment :) [13:14] * bigcalm pmsl at the panto [13:20] haha [13:20] popey, tonytiger (Laura & Mark who don't seem to like IRC): What a wonderful play. Well done and thank you for all of the laughs [13:21] cheers [13:25] harsh to morley! [13:25] Harsh to call anybody a Brummie [13:26] bigcalm: thanks :) [13:27] Nafallo: no, your mirror was disabled in May when it went down and up and down [13:27] Jump up jump up & get down! [13:27] tonytiger: meh. how useful :-P [13:28] tonytiger: want to re-enable it? :-) [13:28] I believe I changed httpd since then :-P [13:29] I'll have to manually sync it [13:29] oh. let me go and do that :-) [13:30] It's OK, I'm already doing it [13:30] heh. okay. [13:30] I'll check logs then ;-) [13:30] meh. looks like it's out of space. [13:31] and indeed it is. [13:31] * Nafallo fixes [13:32] Let me know when it's fixed. [13:32] will do [13:33] I bet this machine will have had troubles installing new apt upgrades and stuff. [13:40] tonytiger: okay. you can kick it again. I'm removing new linux kernels as well as having bumped the virtual hard drive a bit and re-partitioned ;-) [13:40] s/new// [13:40] it had 11 kernels installed ;-) [13:41] might be a bit many [13:41] Purge ALL the kernels [13:41] MartijnVdS: nah. keeping two :-P [13:41] wuss [13:43] hah. loads of episodes downloading now ;-) [13:43] sent 13984 bytes received 821865266 bytes 19804319.28 bytes/sec [13:43] total size is 10140137089 speedup is 12.34 [13:44] tonytiger: okay. I'm up-to-date :-) [13:44] Wed, 21 Dec 2011 13:43:13 +0000: Ubuntu-UK podcast mirror operations completed. [13:55] OK I've turned your mirror back on [14:08] tonytiger: kewl. ta. [14:08] xmas present from my employer - job security into Spring \o/ [14:10] bigcalm: yay! [14:15] * daubers wants to sleep now [14:18] daubers: WAKE UP [14:24] MooDoo: I just shipped 12 servers, 12! 8 months ago I would ship that many in 6 weeks! Not 2 weeks into the month they where ordered! [14:25] * daubers wonders whether this "recession" thing actually exists or if it's some kind of myth dreamed up by the government to hide something else [14:35] I just removed a storage hard drive from my computer and now my computer boots to grub rescue [14:35] It shouldn't have been affected by the change because the drive that grub is on is the only operating system drive [14:35] Is it possible that a change in sata cables to the motherboard is to blame? [14:38] kvarley: its more probably that the boot loader isn't where you thought it was ☺ [14:38] can I use grub rescue to install it to my hard drive? ah yeah, I remember now, the storage drive was the first hdd in the bios for some reason. so it will have installed grub to the first hdd [14:39] yeah, i expect so [14:55] howdy all [14:55] daubers: interesting [14:56] given that the FTSE was at ~6500 at it's peak, and now it's at ~5500 we're not going too badly [14:56] 5387 at the mo [15:00] "/usr/sbin/grub-probe: error: cannot find a device for /boot/grub (is /dev mounted?)." - popey - any ideas? I get that error when doing "sudo grub-install /dev/sda" [15:04] kvarley: sorry, am on the phone [15:04] popey: no problem =] [15:06] kvarley: can you cat /etc/fstab and see if /boot/ should be mounted? [15:06] post the output of 'cat /etc/fstab' to a pastebin [15:07] pastebinit /etc/fstab :) [15:08] andylockran: paste.ubuntu.com/777522/ [15:09] http://paste.ubuntu.com/777522/ [15:09] meh, the stockmarkets all made up anyway [15:09] It doesn't show sda as being mounted [15:10] tonytiger: http://stats.magicalforest.net/mrtg/pony.magicalforest.net_ent.html :-) [15:11] kvarley: can you now run : pastebinit `ls -ltrR /boot` [15:12] to be honest, I am unfamiliar with overlayfs too - so I might not be abl eto help [15:12] Unable to read from error [15:12] sudo? [15:13] sure [15:13] pastebinit `sudo ls -ltrR /boot` [15:13] gmm [15:14] ls -ltrR /boot | pastebinit [15:15] andylockran: http://paste.ubuntu.com/777535/ [15:16] I'm running from a live disc tho [15:16] So anything in /boot will be the /boot on the disc, not the one on my hard drive [15:23] right [15:23] that makes more sense [15:24] tonytiger: oh, in and out is swapped on that thing btw :-P [15:30] .49 [15:30] oops [15:33] Hello. [15:33] o/ MooDoo [15:34] popey: you should just modify your keymap to always do / if there are numbers after ;-) [15:35] ☺ [15:37] popey && andylockran: Fixed=D [15:37] yay [15:38] I did "ls" in grub rescue to find out the partitions and then "ls (hd0,6)/boot" to check it was Ubuntu. Then using a live disc I installed it =) [15:38] Thanks for the help [15:42] sorry I couldn't help more [15:42] thanks [15:42] good job :D [15:56] AL!! [15:56] Aloh! [15:56] czajkowski: hiya! [15:56] czajkowski: afternoon you gorgeous thing you :D *POKE* [15:56] danfish: it's funny you say that [15:57] between the bakerpool line and fog adn an mal functioning plane I got home! [15:57] <----- KNACKERED! [15:57] czajkowski: as long as you made it in under 100 hours this year ;-) [15:57] Pendulum: I did [15:57] and then went and visted family [15:57] so just in the door now [15:57] homne to lovely brown irish stew [15:58] glad to see you home safe czajkowski [15:58] cheers [15:58] This is driving me a bit insane, trying to find out how to create a launcher in xfce 4 so that kupfer picks it up [15:58] In gnome it was just right click on desktop create launcher [16:06] Hmm, what is it that was changed between 10.10 and 11.04 in Ubuntu Server thats meaning my machine can now no longer handle booting 11.04... [16:07] woo, had to write my own desktop file in an obscure place but I got it \o/ [16:11] super meat boy doesn't run on lucid :( [16:12] oimon1, it prolly does, try deleting some of the static libraries it ships [16:12] gordi think it's realted to libgl1-mesa-glx [16:12] I had it running in steam in wine [16:12] needs 7.10 version rather than 7.7 [16:12] Some bits didn't look right, but the main game worked well enough [16:13] looking for a PPA that might have later package [16:14] Anybody have any idea what could be causing it to stall at the end of post? [16:16] https://bugzilla.icculus.org/show_bug.cgi?id=5252 looks like a similar bug to the SMB one [16:16] bugzilla.icculus.org bug 5252 in everything "Segmentation fault on startup (32-bit Linux)" [Critical,Assigned] [16:17] That will always be Super Mario Bros [16:17] There's no escaping it [16:18] too scared to install a debian package from debian though :( [16:20] i only really bought the humble bundle for super M boy :\ [16:20] * oimon1 is feeling sad cos he has man flu too [16:22] whoo the mothership has a lovely brown irish stew ready for me! [16:22] There's a mothership? [16:23] there is [16:26] Stew :-( === Lcawte is now known as Lcawte|Away [16:33] the other game i wanted Cogs crashes X too :( [16:47] stew \o/ [16:52] stew :c [16:53] Nobody like stew? [16:53] No. [16:53] It's just a mash of everything. [16:54] o/ czajkowski, nice trip? [16:54] Stew rocks [16:55] hi5 bigcalm [16:55] o/ [16:56] Heh [17:05] does anyone have a fix for minecraft sticky keys in 1.0? [17:06] updating LWGL seems to cause it to crash for me :( [17:07] It's been a bug since day 1 [17:07] yea but there's been patches about for it [17:08] Oh [17:09] does anyone feel the feed to install themselves into the internet? [17:09] ah there we go got it, the script I was using grabbed the latest LWGL which apparently minecraft isn't compatible with, 2.6 seems to let me in game, hopefully no more sticky keys [17:13] saw a guy with an ubuntu top on at the shop, i'm not alone in this town! [17:19] gord: you don't feel so special any more? [17:20] i always feel special [17:20] * popey feels gord's special [17:21] also, here is a picture of the wing commander [17:21] http://www.imdb.com/media/rm1646178816/tt0970179 [17:21] guy with the moustach [17:21] +e [17:23] * daubers always imagined him with a tash a bit more like http://www.campbestival.net/media/Mr_B_the_Gentleman_Rhymer_3_1304773842.jpg [17:44] good evening folks [17:47] * daubers goes home [17:52] http://media.iwm.org.uk/iwm/mediaLib/148/media-148168/large.jpg was waht I had in my head [17:53] ;c [17:59] http://www.gametronik.com/site/rubriques/abandonware_simulation/Jeux/Wing%20Commander%20III%20-%20Heart%20of%20the%20Tiger%20%28fr%29/Scans/wing-commander-iii-cover-art.jpg - what i had in my head [18:10] Goodbye. === chalced is now known as chalcedony [19:27] hi ubuntubhoy [19:28] ello [19:28] hows it going [19:28] not so bad [19:28] but my internet is down [19:29] and my phone data connection is flaky [19:29] so tethering may or may not last [19:29] ah [19:30] i just switched over to unity [19:30] on 11.04 [19:30] how you finding it ? [19:30] ok [19:30] i have also tried 12.04 so that has a big improvement [19:31] I prefer Gnome Shell, but my wife and daughters prefer Unity [19:31] i like having easy access to common apps [19:32] i was using gnome but thought i have time so why not switch to unity and see how i get on, not much major course work to get in the way [19:32] I have on this install, and it works pretty well [19:33] its a touchscreen though so I have it set to always show [19:33] but its good for my fat fingers [19:33] i will look inot how to configure so it always shows [19:36] i am going to try and promote ubuntu locally a bit more given we are one of the most deprived areas of the country (torbay) or aparently we are [19:37] hi [19:41] Anybody here running 12.04? I think I have found a bug in 11.10 and wondered if it was fixed. [19:42] stuphi: bug number? [19:43] I have not submitted it. Not found anything after a quick search but wondered if it was worth raising a bug if it has already been fixed in the next version. [19:44] If I open a terminal, and then use Ctrl+Alt+Num6, I then can't grab the edge to resize. [19:46] ctrl-alt-f6 opens a full screen console on here [19:46] f7 is the gui [19:46] well ctrl-alt-f7 [19:46] num pad 6 [19:47] hey guys [19:47] It may be intended to work like that. It is just chrome allows resize. [19:47] i seem to be having a bit of trouble with my sound on 11.04 (was on 10.10, but upgraded since people recommeneded that it would fix it) but so far no joy [19:47] ctrl-alt num keys seem to auto position the current active window [19:48] Yep, but sometimes I want to fine adjust after. [19:48] i can resize from here on 11.04 [19:48] For terminal and files I can't, but chrome, I can [19:49] ctrl-alt-t [19:49] That gives me a new terminal. [19:50] then doing ctrl-alt num keys resizes it right [19:50] and on 11.04 you can'ty then resize [19:50] Yep. Now try and grab an edge [19:50] and on 11.10 you can'ty then resize [19:50] it works on 11.04 [19:50] so i guess the bug may be in 11.10 [19:51] I was hoping to find somone with 12.04 so that I don't have to upgrade to see if it is fixed. [19:51] stuphi, try #ubuntu+1 [19:52] as we may have narrowed it down to when the bug started 11.10 [19:52] Ok. Thanks. [19:52] np [19:54] i will see if my cd boots and have a go [19:56] I am not alone! :-) bug 892368 [19:56] Launchpad bug 892368 in unity (Ubuntu) "I can't drag a half-maximized window to be any wider anymore" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/892368 [19:59] stuphi: oh yeah, I have seen that happen [20:00] AlanBell: Did you also see how to fix it? :-) [20:01] nope, just un-half-maximise it [20:03] anyone :(? [20:03] stuphi, got someone in #ubuntu+1 so tried to ask the same question [20:04] zleap: My old nogin struggles to cope with multiple channels. [20:05] It's like trying to listen to two people at once. Just can't do it. [20:06] ok [20:07] i am trying to ask, at the same time as booting on anoter pc [20:08] so keep needing to chance the cables around (1 monitor) [20:08] change [20:09] zleap: Much apreciated. Don't bust a gut though. [20:09] its not a problem [20:09] 12,04 booting from cd is being a pain [20:12] stuphi: doesn't work in 12.04 either [20:15] AlanBell, so is that a bug then [20:15] it is bug 892368 [20:15] Launchpad bug 892368 in unity (Ubuntu) "I can't drag a half-maximized window to be any wider anymore" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/892368 [20:15] ah [20:17] grrrr live cd isn't booting [20:17] and it worked the other day6 [20:28] AlanBell: Thanks. [20:28] zleap: You have just reminded me. I promised an 11.10 CD for a friend. Must burn that now. [20:29] ah np [20:29] or, for the price of postage I can send an official CD if you like [20:29] I was just going to mention that [20:29] http://ubuntu-uk.org/free-cds/ [20:29] What's a decent FS for an SSD? Should I just use EXT4 or is there some magic bullet for free performance :P [20:30] Azelphur: someone pointed out that ext4 has some wear leveling optimisations in it for SSD [20:30] cool [20:31] hamitron: bitcoin price...is rising :o It's up to £2.50 [21:35] Bitcoins... [21:35] Didn't LulzSec get nearly £1,000,000 from BitCoins? [21:36] Oh [21:36] Realised I'm an hour late. [21:42] exit [21:42] enter [21:43] hippo? [21:50] jutnux: there's only $7M worth of bitcoins... so no [21:52] Oh right. [21:52] Might have been £100,000 then, [21:52] They did get a lot though, I know that. [21:53] even if they did, if they tried to sell them, it would crash the price [22:11] [Gareth France] And now for something completely different& - http://cliftonts.co.uk/cubuntu/?p=28 [23:27] Hi guys [23:28] hi [23:28] What you guys talking about? [23:28] it is quite a quiet night really, but anything ubuntuish and ukish is on topic [23:29] ;D I haven't been on this channel in a looooooooong time [23:29] not much has changed [23:30] must get round to redecorating it at some point [23:30] :P [23:30] Anyways, I have a question [23:31] Do you think Lubuntu 11.10 would work on a system with a 1GHz CPU and 128MB RAM? [23:31] I really need more RAM, I get that [23:31] ❄ ❅ ❆ snowflakes [23:31] But for the meantime? [23:31] hehe cool [23:32] yeah, you need more ram. Might install though [23:32] Alright [23:32] you could ask in #lubuntu [23:33] What do you think the highest size module you could get of SDR ram would be? [23:33] I've been looking round but all I can seem to find is up to 512mb [23:34] It's a really old machine -- 11 years, 12 in February [23:34] wow, what is that thing? [23:34] Runs windows ME [23:35] :D laughing ecstatically [23:35] time for an upgrade perhaps, a little Atom motherboard would work just great and you can stick a few gig in that [23:36] Can't be asked to waste money [23:36] I've got a laptop [23:36] And I'm using an iPod touch right now [23:37] * AlanBell looks in box of bits [23:38] How do you do that? [23:39] I have a 128MB stick and a 512mb stick and an unlabled stick which looks a lot like the 512 [23:39] SDR ram? [23:39] PC133 stuff, I think it is SDR, has two notches in the base [23:39] U have ram modules on you right now? [23:39] Yep, that's ram [23:39] yeah I know it is ram :) [23:40] I meant yep, that's SDR ram [23:40] Coooooool [23:40] I'm only 14 though [23:40] So I wouldn't think someone would have RAM lying around? [23:41] i hate windows [23:41] http://ubuntu-uk.org/free-cds/ follow that procedure and put a note in it and I will send you an Ubuntu CD and the ram, you just pay the postage [23:42] zleap: can't say the same myself, but it's a pain most of the time [23:42] just booted into windows, and it crashed, rebooted and the system repair thing deleted files (or did something without asking) and now it boots but won't get very far [23:42] paln: sign up to a local freecycle list and you will occasionally find some gems [23:42] well until i can get my printer working in ubuntu Iam stuck printing stuff using windows [23:43] zleap: u got a recovery cd? What make is your machine? [23:43] or a LUG, loads of people have boxes of old stuff which they are happy to give to a good home [23:43] zleap: what printer? [23:43] bigcalm: cool, will have to go to one sometime [23:43] brother mfc j615w [23:43] AlanBell: thanks for the tip as well [23:43] i have found the right software on the brother site, and can't get it to work [23:44] software centre says the deb files provided are bad [23:44] or have serious errors [23:44] zleap: try opening them in gdebi-gtk [23:44] ok [23:45] i just need to copy a filter driver somewhere [23:45] It resolved quite a few issues I've had with deb files in the past [23:45] Btw I'm not new to Linux, but haven't really got into the community as such [23:46] zleap: seen https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cups/+question/145783 [23:47] paln: well done for making that 1st step by joining #ubuntu-uk :) [23:48] ok thanks [23:48] It's like gym membership - once you join, you can never leave [23:48] bigcalm: I did about a year ago, but was never to return... [23:48] That is, until now :D [23:48] night all o/ [23:48] AlanBell: see ya thanks for the help [23:48] Good night AlanBell :) [23:49] I like the gym I go to ;-) [23:50] gordonjcp: good to know [23:50] is there a commadn i can use to find out where myprinter is on the network [23:51] as in devices / ip addresses [23:51] zleap: couldn't you use iwconfig ? [23:52] lists all network interfaces [23:52] will ifconfig do that too [23:53] not sure, maybe [23:53] I'm not an expert [23:53] just an enthusiast [23:54] same here [23:54] bigcalm: where'd ya go? [23:54] zleap: ;) [23:54] zleap: how long you been using Linux? [23:54] the commands on the site i was given fail due to spefici directories not existing [23:54] properly a few years, but stareted out way back with the 1.0.9 kernel [23:55] but that was just playing around with it [23:55] zleap: whoa that's long [23:55] yeah [23:55] my main claimto fame is I amon the first page of the dclug archive [23:55] I first started out with Ubuntu 10.04 to see what Linux was like [23:55] circa 1999 [23:55] zleap: yea I figured around 2000 [23:56] yeah i ahve used slackware, redhat, suse, caldera (briefly, as it failed to let me log in) [23:56] zleap: lol I've never heard of Caldera...what's it based upon? [23:56] still got the first 2 issues of linux world somewhere, [23:56] not sure, i will have to dig it out [23:57] also got a cd of debian 1.2 [23:57] my neighbours are American ad a couple years back they let two guys rent the place [23:57] last week they came back from America do they guys who rented it had to move out [23:58] dunno i would have thought they would have to give some sort of notice [23:58] before they left they left outside the house a bunch of Linux CDs and old ThinkPads and Lenovo pcs with the weird trackpads between the J and k keys :P [23:59] I'm trying to find power adapters that wok with them so I can use the things [23:59] cool [23:59] the linux cd's may be useful