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pleia2UDS will be in Oakland in May: http://uds.ubuntu.com/17:36
pleia2right next to 12th street BART :)17:36
akkwoohoo!17:50
brodernow that i've made peace with my disappointment that i don't get to travel somewhere new, i'm actually really excited about hosting uds17:59
pleia2hehe18:01
pleia22012 is shaping up to be a very low travel year for me18:01
pleia2maybe one UDS, my fiance isn't traveling as much for work (I tend to tag along), saving for the wedding18:02
akkI guess that's both good and bad.18:03
pleia2I had 2 years of big travel and live in a beautiful place, I'm ok with it :)18:03
greg-g:)18:04
philipballewSo UDS will be in CA again I see...20:34
Faqtotumwhere in CA?20:34
philipballewOakland20:35
bkerensaphilipballew: Is the announcement out yet20:35
bkerensaWTF20:35
bkerensa=o20:35
bkerensaOakland?20:35
philipballewhttp://uds.ubuntu.com/20:35
bkerensa:(20:35
Faqtotumwow, when is it?20:35
philipballewyeah, I'll need to be packing heat when I go20:35
Faqtotumhmm, may20:35
philipballewWeird I agree bkerensa20:36
bkerensaOakland has been the murder capitol of the world many times20:36
bkerensa:D20:36
Faqtotumi'm still vacillating on whether or not to go to scale this year20:36
bkerensamaybe they are going for it being a cheap venue20:36
* bkerensa will likely be at UDS even if I have to self-fund a trip20:37
philipballewThere are some nace parts of oakland and the area around.20:37
philipballewlike Berkley20:37
philipballewself funding this uds trip will be a 8 doller bus ticket20:37
bkerensalol20:37
MarkDudeAwesome20:37
bkerensafor me it would be a few hundred at minimum20:37
MarkDudeOaksterdam UDS20:37
bkerensa$200-300 for travel20:38
MarkDudelol20:38
bkerensathen hotel20:38
bkerensa:(20:38
bkerensaI could stay in San Francisco for a night or two likely and maybe a night in San Bruno or South San Fran20:38
bkerensaand just commute each day via BART20:38
* philipballew always finds getho cheep ways to find sleep.20:38
bkerensalol20:38
philipballewat scale I will be sleeping in the LAX airport lobby.20:39
bkerensalol20:39
bkerensais that legal?20:39
philipballewI highly doubt it is20:39
philipballewmaybe someone in the CA loco would loan you a couch bkerensa20:39
bkerensapeh :P20:39
bkerensaI think I should be ok20:39
bkerensaI have friends and family in the bay area20:40
MarkDudeIt's NOT illegal - IF you dont get caught20:40
FaqtotumMarkDude generally stays with his uncle for scale20:40
bkerensamy extended family pretty much owns the City of Martinez20:40
bkerensa:D20:40
MarkDudeUh, not this year Faqtotum20:40
MarkDudeI have someone paying for my room....20:40
Faqtotumis there more room in the room?20:40
MarkDudeThe Dark Side of the Force has cookies, and pays well...20:41
MarkDudeCourtney and Chris may be staying in it20:41
philipballewMarkDude, what part of Oakland is the Marriott City Center20:42
pleia2philipballew: it's right near 12 st station20:42
pleia2BART20:43
pleia2crazy easy to get to20:43
philipballewthats right, Thats why it seems so familiar20:43
Faqtotumthere is only paid parking there, so take bart20:43
pleia2Oakland is scary, I'll drag all my friends over to SF for the evenings20:44
pleia2:)20:44
* philipballew considers places to live in Oakland for a week20:44
bkerensaheh20:44
MarkDudephilipballew, uh near gangs and weed clubs20:44
MarkDudeas is most of Oakland20:44
pleia2lol20:44
MarkDude:D20:44
bkerensaGolden Gate Park for the win20:45
bkerensa:D20:45
pleia2that shall be our motto for this UDS20:45
MarkDudeWell its NOT the Tenderloin20:45
MarkDudelol20:45
bkerensaMarkDude: Canonical tried for the TL but Zynga took all the space20:45
philipballewI have family who live in napa, Maybe ill commute. or just not sleep.20:45
bkerensa:)20:45
* MarkDude feels a photo edit coming on20:45
Faqtotumi highly doubt you can easily hold a UDS in GGP20:45
pleia2things to do in Oakland: weed, clubs, try not to get shot20:45
MarkDuderofl20:45
philipballewpleia2, take them to berkely20:45
MarkDudepleia2, dont forget - try not to be EXTRA white20:46
pleia2MarkDude: we're doomed20:46
bkerensaFaqtotum: No but you can enjoy some wine and a cold beer in GGP20:46
MarkDudeyep20:46
Faqtotumtrue dat20:46
* philipballew puts on his Do-rag20:46
bkerensaand burn some incense :D20:46
MarkDude40 OZ WILL WORK FOR uds20:46
bkerensado the drum circle20:46
bkerensa:D20:46
MarkDudeTHEY SELL IT20:46
pleia2MarkDude: hahahah20:46
pleia2oh man20:46
bkerensathis is going to be epic20:46
* MarkDude is planning his shirts to be made for this20:47
bkerensaTwo trips to California in 6 months!20:47
* Faqtotum used to live maybe 50 feet from GGP until displaced by Loma Prieta20:47
bkerensaDoes the BART run to Martinez?20:48
bkerensaI cant remember20:48
Faqtotumi knew most of the park like the back of my hand20:48
Faqtotumthere is a "north concord/martinez" bart station that connects to martinez by bus20:48
bkerensaFaqtotum: Which side did you live on?20:49
philipballewI was hoping to apply and go to europe this summer as thats where it usually is. but oakland. Its like the same20:49
bkerensaHeh20:49
philipballewits the same... but totally different20:49
bkerensaWell I will apply but I hope to find my own lodging even if sponsored (save Canonical some money)20:49
MarkDudeNo Martinez20:50
Faqtotummost of my life has been SF but i am temporarily indefinitely displaced to our crappy little state capital20:50
MarkDudeYou would have to take bus20:50
grantbowor train20:50
bkerensaMarkDude: That wouldnt work too well the commute would be too long20:50
Faqtotumoh, which side of GGP you meant20:50
MarkDudeThis reminds me of a song, bored as hell and I wanna get ill20:50
Faqtotumaddress was 872 33rd Ave20:50
philipballewill be takin the bus. 6 hours from auburn ro sf form 11 dollars20:50
philipballew*from20:50
MarkDudeSo I went to the place my homeboys chill20:50
Faqtotumi still have some business cards with that address20:51
bkerensa:) so you lived in the avenues20:51
bkerensa:D20:51
bkerensaThe only side of GGP I like is Stanyan & Haight20:52
MarkDudeBoyz in da hood, totally NSFW20:52
MarkDudehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mEdaXiTYHrY20:52
MarkDudeThis will be EPIC, just need to figure out what day for a geeknic20:53
philipballewso do I have an easier shot at a sponsorship if i live like 70 miles from the place pleia2 ?20:54
grantbowbkerensa: caltrain goes direct form martinez to a few blocks from the Mariott20:55
grantbowfrom20:55
pleia2philipballew: I don't think it really works that way, but when you apply be sure to only apply for hotel sponsorship (not travel) and maybe it'll help20:55
Faqtotumcaltrain??20:55
Faqtotumthat's SF to gilroy20:56
pleia2it's all up to Canonical though, they bring in community members the value for that cycle and who are new, regardless of locale20:56
grantbowerr, not caltrain but Amtrak20:56
pleia2philipballew: honestly not getting sponsorship before + being an ubuntu member probably helps you more than being local :)20:56
philipballewpleia2, can you still attend if your not sponsered?20:56
pleia2philipballew: yep!20:56
bkerensapleia2: Apparently some people get sponsored every cycle?20:56
bkerensaor so I have heard20:56
philipballewhahahaha :)20:56
pleia2bkerensa: I don't know specifically of anyone who has20:57
philipballewDarkwing, has gone twice20:57
bkerensaValorie has20:57
philipballewsponsored both times20:57
pleia2bkerensa: she wasn't in Orlando20:57
bkerensaI dont think she applied20:57
bkerensashe went to GSoC20:57
pleia2I've been sponsored every time I went, but I don't go every time20:57
philipballewwhat jobs will the loco have?20:58
philipballewevents ,shuttle drivers and stuff of that?20:58
pleia2philipballew: no jobs20:59
philipballewHum, thats nice then20:59
pleia2if we want we can plan a couple evening events, but it's all up to us20:59
grantbowhuge opportunity20:59
pleia2I worked with the Hungarian LoCo to do some sight seeing in Budapest, 30 people on Budapest public transit was an adventure :)20:59
bkerensaehh21:00
akkThat would be impressive on public transit practically anywhere.21:00
pleia2I figure we can do something similar by dragging everyone over to SF on BART ;)21:00
philipballewWhat are good things to see though there though? I mean, I go to the bay area many times a year so its hard to say what new people would like21:00
philipballewthe golden gate probably21:01
MarkDudeWell the Princess BETTER be sponsored EVERY time21:01
* MarkDude will give tour of SF, 21:01
pleia2MarkDude: even CC members aren't guaranteed to be sponsored :)21:01
MarkDudeIf you look to your left, you will see a wild pack of trannies21:01
pleia2philipballew: the embarcadero is full of awesome21:01
MarkDudeOver the right is a crack deal21:01
pleia2from ferry building up to pier 39 and fisherman's wharf21:02
akkCable cars -- everybody wants to see those.21:02
philipballewMarkDude, Lets take a good tour of the castro21:02
MarkDudeAnd straight ahead are dot-comers21:02
pleia2then people can take a cable car down to union square, hop on bart and head back to oakland21:02
MarkDudeCastro is actually a great tour21:02
MarkDudeCastro is far less gay than people would think21:02
philipballewhaight and ashberry maybe as well21:02
pleia2ok, I do the Tourist Tourist tour, MarkDude can do The Castro tour ;)21:02
* MarkDude does not use gay as pejorative, btw21:02
bkerensaMarkDude: I will go with you to the Castro21:03
bkerensa:D21:03
MarkDudeMore of a descriptor21:03
* philipballew agrees with MarkDude for the record21:03
akkCastro just looks like more city streets to me.21:03
bkerensathey have good sushi21:03
bkerensaand21:03
bkerensais Hot Cookie still on the Castro?21:03
bkerensa:D21:03
MarkDudeChinatown rocks21:03
pleia2I am cranky at The Castro since Bagdad Cafe closed :(21:03
MarkDudeBagdad rocked21:03
akkThe Exploratorium and the area around there is fun to take visitors, too.21:04
grantbowI wonder why the EU-US schedule deviated this cycle21:04
bkerensaI can get into the Exploratorium for free :D21:04
pleia2akk: these are evening trips, so most of the museums will be out :(21:04
* bkerensa knows the executive director21:04
bkerensa:D21:04
akkoh, right ... and walks along the beach and so forth aren't so good then either.21:04
bkerensaakk: Uhh Ocean Beach is a blast at night time21:05
bkerensa:D21:05
bkerensaBonfire!21:05
MarkDudeakk, I need D's size for that shirt21:05
grantbowthere are so many unique tech events that could take place around UDS21:05
MarkDudeI have every thing else but that21:05
grantbowin Oakland21:05
philipballewskywalker ranch is probably closed as well?21:05
grantbowtech museum isn't easy to get to yet21:05
bkerensaOur luck will be that UDS will get occupied and we wont even be able to get to it :D21:05
MarkDudeDangerous G's old gang he used to run with has a chapter in Oakland, maybe he can set up a tour21:05
pleia2philipballew: is it ever open?21:06
MarkDudeCarpool to tech museum21:06
grantbowthe tech OS occupy theme is growing21:06
philipballewpleia2, ive seen it a few times, however it is a good view to just see it. but its out there a ways21:06
pleia2philipballew: ah, cool, I didn't realize there was public access at all21:07
grantbowin essence Ubuntu will occupy Oakland - great PR21:07
philipballewthe apple store in union square next to fidm might be a good place to visit21:08
grantbowI wonder what % of machines in the City of Oakland run Linux21:08
pleia2grantbow: we'll have to invite some of our teachers out :) (especially robert from ASCEND!)21:08
grantbowoh yeah21:09
akkI'd be interested in that % anywhere, not just Oakland. No way to know, though.21:09
pleia2(I've been working with Robert a lot lately to prep for my SCALE talk, he's awesome)21:09
grantbowthe IT department might have a fair guess21:09
grantbowhttp://www.oaklandnet.com/government/informationtech/technology_home.htm21:10
grantbowhttp://www.oakgov.com/infotech/21:14
grantbowcio is Phil Bertolini, Dir of IT is Edwin Poisson21:14
grantbowoops, that's oakland, michigan!21:14
pleia2hehe21:15
pleia2btw: http://blog.longnow.org/2011/12/20/lawrence-lessig-ticket-info/21:15
pleia2already got my ticket21:15
pleia2(the topic interests me less than the speaker, it's lessig!)21:16
broderhuh, that seems like a weird topic for Long Now21:16
pleia2yeah, it does21:17
pleia2I'll be interested to hear how they make it work21:17
bkerensaServer Migration time21:19
bkerensa:D21:19
pleia2grantbow: added your gmail address to the partimus discuss list whitelist21:59
bkerensaI utterly hate migrating servers via git22:17
bkerensa:(22:17
grantbowpleia2: you approved it before I could delete and resend with a better email :-)22:35
pleia2the taco truck near best buy seriously makes the best quesadillas on the planet23:09
akkweird!23:13
akkI used to work at a place where the local roach coach made this great stir-fry thing (she called it chow mein, but it wasn't anything like anyone else's chow mein). You never know where you'll find a good cook.23:13
pleia2this taco truck is actually michelin recommended23:15
pleia2who knew they rated taco trucks? :)23:15
nhainesFood trucks are the new big fad. :)23:15
pleia2convenient that this happens when I finally move into a city and can take advantage of it23:16
akkThe techshop opening in San Jose had about 10 different food trucks, all different ethnicities -- impressive spread.23:17
bkerensaFood Carts for the win23:18
bkerensa:D23:18
nhainesI remember one food truck--this one was just standard, not a gourmet one--where I bought chicken tortilla soup on the advice from colleagues that it was incredible.  Then I immediately severely burned my tongue on the soup and couldn't taste it.23:21
nhainesFortunately, I'd bought aloe vera juice to drink along with the soup.23:21
pleia2haha23:23
nhainesIt was also the first time I'd tried aloe vera juice.  Fortuitous as it turns out!23:27
bkerensaI need to learn how to make thai iced teas :D I could drink them all day23:28
broderi've never found a recipe i believed23:29
pleia2there are some mixes that are pretty good (in fact, I think some of the places around here use them)23:29
brodersounds like cheating23:29
bkerensaWell I know the owner of a Pho shop and he makes excellent thai iced teas so maybe I can bribe him into the recipe :D23:31
pleia2the place across the street from me will do take out tea :d23:32
bkerensaahh your lucky :D23:38
bkerensaI need a Sushi Shop & Thai Iced Tea place right across the street23:39
bkerensaI think the only good thing I have is Subway Delivery :D23:39
bkerensa24/723:39
* akk wonders if anything interesting will be going on at Chabot when UDS is in town23:53
pleia2wow, I didn't even know about it23:54
akkthough that's probably hard to get to with public transit23:54
akkI haven't been there since they moved to the new site23:54
akkI'm not really much for the glitzy planetarium stuff anyway, but their telescope making workshop is a great "open hardware" sort of place.23:55
akkI finished my 8" there and have been very happy with the results.23:57

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