[17:36] <pleia2> UDS will be in Oakland in May: http://uds.ubuntu.com/
[17:36] <pleia2> right next to 12th street BART :)
[17:50] <akk> woohoo!
[17:59] <broder> now that i've made peace with my disappointment that i don't get to travel somewhere new, i'm actually really excited about hosting uds
[18:01] <pleia2> hehe
[18:01] <pleia2> 2012 is shaping up to be a very low travel year for me
[18:02] <pleia2> maybe one UDS, my fiance isn't traveling as much for work (I tend to tag along), saving for the wedding
[18:03] <akk> I guess that's both good and bad.
[18:03] <pleia2> I had 2 years of big travel and live in a beautiful place, I'm ok with it :)
[18:04] <greg-g> :)
[20:34] <philipballew> So UDS will be in CA again I see...
[20:34] <Faqtotum> where in CA?
[20:35] <philipballew> Oakland
[20:35] <bkerensa> philipballew: Is the announcement out yet
[20:35] <bkerensa> WTF
[20:35] <bkerensa> =o
[20:35] <bkerensa> Oakland?
[20:35] <philipballew> http://uds.ubuntu.com/
[20:35] <bkerensa> :(
[20:35] <Faqtotum> wow, when is it?
[20:35] <philipballew> yeah, I'll need to be packing heat when I go
[20:35] <Faqtotum> hmm, may
[20:36] <philipballew> Weird I agree bkerensa
[20:36] <bkerensa> Oakland has been the murder capitol of the world many times
[20:36] <bkerensa> :D
[20:36] <Faqtotum> i'm still vacillating on whether or not to go to scale this year
[20:36] <bkerensa> maybe they are going for it being a cheap venue
[20:37]  * bkerensa will likely be at UDS even if I have to self-fund a trip
[20:37] <philipballew> There are some nace parts of oakland and the area around.
[20:37] <philipballew> like Berkley
[20:37] <philipballew> self funding this uds trip will be a 8 doller bus ticket
[20:37] <bkerensa> lol
[20:37] <MarkDude> Awesome
[20:37] <bkerensa> for me it would be a few hundred at minimum
[20:37] <MarkDude> Oaksterdam UDS
[20:38] <bkerensa> $200-300 for travel
[20:38] <MarkDude> lol
[20:38] <bkerensa> then hotel
[20:38] <bkerensa> :(
[20:38] <bkerensa> I could stay in San Francisco for a night or two likely and maybe a night in San Bruno or South San Fran
[20:38] <bkerensa> and just commute each day via BART
[20:38]  * philipballew always finds getho cheep ways to find sleep.
[20:38] <bkerensa> lol
[20:39] <philipballew> at scale I will be sleeping in the LAX airport lobby.
[20:39] <bkerensa> lol
[20:39] <bkerensa> is that legal?
[20:39] <philipballew> I highly doubt it is
[20:39] <philipballew> maybe someone in the CA loco would loan you a couch bkerensa
[20:39] <bkerensa> peh :P
[20:39] <bkerensa> I think I should be ok
[20:40] <bkerensa> I have friends and family in the bay area
[20:40] <MarkDude> It's NOT illegal - IF you dont get caught
[20:40] <Faqtotum> MarkDude generally stays with his uncle for scale
[20:40] <bkerensa> my extended family pretty much owns the City of Martinez
[20:40] <bkerensa> :D
[20:40] <MarkDude> Uh, not this year Faqtotum
[20:40] <MarkDude> I have someone paying for my room....
[20:40] <Faqtotum> is there more room in the room?
[20:41] <MarkDude> The Dark Side of the Force has cookies, and pays well...
[20:41] <MarkDude> Courtney and Chris may be staying in it
[20:42] <philipballew> MarkDude, what part of Oakland is the Marriott City Center
[20:42] <pleia2> philipballew: it's right near 12 st station
[20:43] <pleia2> BART
[20:43] <pleia2> crazy easy to get to
[20:43] <philipballew> thats right, Thats why it seems so familiar
[20:43] <Faqtotum> there is only paid parking there, so take bart
[20:44] <pleia2> Oakland is scary, I'll drag all my friends over to SF for the evenings
[20:44] <pleia2> :)
[20:44]  * philipballew considers places to live in Oakland for a week
[20:44] <bkerensa> heh
[20:44] <MarkDude> philipballew, uh near gangs and weed clubs
[20:44] <MarkDude> as is most of Oakland
[20:44] <pleia2> lol
[20:44] <MarkDude> :D
[20:45] <bkerensa> Golden Gate Park for the win
[20:45] <bkerensa> :D
[20:45] <pleia2> that shall be our motto for this UDS
[20:45] <MarkDude> Well its NOT the Tenderloin
[20:45] <MarkDude> lol
[20:45] <bkerensa> MarkDude: Canonical tried for the TL but Zynga took all the space
[20:45] <philipballew> I have family who live in napa, Maybe ill commute. or just not sleep.
[20:45] <bkerensa> :)
[20:45]  * MarkDude feels a photo edit coming on
[20:45] <Faqtotum> i highly doubt you can easily hold a UDS in GGP
[20:45] <pleia2> things to do in Oakland: weed, clubs, try not to get shot
[20:45] <MarkDude> rofl
[20:45] <philipballew> pleia2, take them to berkely
[20:46] <MarkDude> pleia2, dont forget - try not to be EXTRA white
[20:46] <pleia2> MarkDude: we're doomed
[20:46] <bkerensa> Faqtotum: No but you can enjoy some wine and a cold beer in GGP
[20:46] <MarkDude> yep
[20:46] <Faqtotum> true dat
[20:46]  * philipballew puts on his Do-rag
[20:46] <bkerensa> and burn some incense :D
[20:46] <MarkDude> 40 OZ WILL WORK FOR uds
[20:46] <bkerensa> do the drum circle
[20:46] <bkerensa> :D
[20:46] <MarkDude> THEY SELL IT
[20:46] <pleia2> MarkDude: hahahah
[20:46] <pleia2> oh man
[20:46] <bkerensa> this is going to be epic
[20:47]  * MarkDude is planning his shirts to be made for this
[20:47] <bkerensa> Two trips to California in 6 months!
[20:47]  * Faqtotum used to live maybe 50 feet from GGP until displaced by Loma Prieta
[20:48] <bkerensa> Does the BART run to Martinez?
[20:48] <bkerensa> I cant remember
[20:48] <Faqtotum> i knew most of the park like the back of my hand
[20:48] <Faqtotum> there is a "north concord/martinez" bart station that connects to martinez by bus
[20:49] <bkerensa> Faqtotum: Which side did you live on?
[20:49] <philipballew> I was hoping to apply and go to europe this summer as thats where it usually is. but oakland. Its like the same
[20:49] <bkerensa> Heh
[20:49] <philipballew> its the same... but totally different
[20:49] <bkerensa> Well I will apply but I hope to find my own lodging even if sponsored (save Canonical some money)
[20:50] <MarkDude> No Martinez
[20:50] <Faqtotum> most of my life has been SF but i am temporarily indefinitely displaced to our crappy little state capital
[20:50] <MarkDude> You would have to take bus
[20:50] <grantbow> or train
[20:50] <bkerensa> MarkDude: That wouldnt work too well the commute would be too long
[20:50] <Faqtotum> oh, which side of GGP you meant
[20:50] <MarkDude> This reminds me of a song, bored as hell and I wanna get ill
[20:50] <Faqtotum> address was 872 33rd Ave
[20:50] <philipballew> ill be takin the bus. 6 hours from auburn ro sf form 11 dollars
[20:50] <philipballew> *from
[20:50] <MarkDude> So I went to the place my homeboys chill
[20:51] <Faqtotum> i still have some business cards with that address
[20:51] <bkerensa> :) so you lived in the avenues
[20:51] <bkerensa> :D
[20:52] <bkerensa> The only side of GGP I like is Stanyan & Haight
[20:52] <MarkDude> Boyz in da hood, totally NSFW
[20:52] <MarkDude> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mEdaXiTYHrY
[20:53] <MarkDude> This will be EPIC, just need to figure out what day for a geeknic
[20:54] <philipballew> so do I have an easier shot at a sponsorship if i live like 70 miles from the place pleia2 ?
[20:55] <grantbow> bkerensa: caltrain goes direct form martinez to a few blocks from the Mariott
[20:55] <grantbow> from
[20:55] <pleia2> philipballew: I don't think it really works that way, but when you apply be sure to only apply for hotel sponsorship (not travel) and maybe it'll help
[20:55] <Faqtotum> caltrain??
[20:56] <Faqtotum> that's SF to gilroy
[20:56] <pleia2> it's all up to Canonical though, they bring in community members the value for that cycle and who are new, regardless of locale
[20:56] <grantbow> err, not caltrain but Amtrak
[20:56] <pleia2> philipballew: honestly not getting sponsorship before + being an ubuntu member probably helps you more than being local :)
[20:56] <philipballew> pleia2, can you still attend if your not sponsered?
[20:56] <pleia2> philipballew: yep!
[20:56] <bkerensa> pleia2: Apparently some people get sponsored every cycle?
[20:56] <bkerensa> or so I have heard
[20:56] <philipballew> hahahaha :)
[20:57] <pleia2> bkerensa: I don't know specifically of anyone who has
[20:57] <philipballew> Darkwing, has gone twice
[20:57] <bkerensa> Valorie has
[20:57] <philipballew> sponsored both times
[20:57] <pleia2> bkerensa: she wasn't in Orlando
[20:57] <bkerensa> I dont think she applied
[20:57] <bkerensa> she went to GSoC
[20:57] <pleia2> I've been sponsored every time I went, but I don't go every time
[20:58] <philipballew> what jobs will the loco have?
[20:58] <philipballew> events ,shuttle drivers and stuff of that?
[20:59] <pleia2> philipballew: no jobs
[20:59] <philipballew> Hum, thats nice then
[20:59] <pleia2> if we want we can plan a couple evening events, but it's all up to us
[20:59] <grantbow> huge opportunity
[20:59] <pleia2> I worked with the Hungarian LoCo to do some sight seeing in Budapest, 30 people on Budapest public transit was an adventure :)
[21:00] <bkerensa> ehh
[21:00] <akk> That would be impressive on public transit practically anywhere.
[21:00] <pleia2> I figure we can do something similar by dragging everyone over to SF on BART ;)
[21:00] <philipballew> What are good things to see though there though? I mean, I go to the bay area many times a year so its hard to say what new people would like
[21:01] <philipballew> the golden gate probably
[21:01] <MarkDude> Well the Princess BETTER be sponsored EVERY time
[21:01]  * MarkDude will give tour of SF, 
[21:01] <pleia2> MarkDude: even CC members aren't guaranteed to be sponsored :)
[21:01] <MarkDude> If you look to your left, you will see a wild pack of trannies
[21:01] <pleia2> philipballew: the embarcadero is full of awesome
[21:01] <MarkDude> Over the right is a crack deal
[21:02] <pleia2> from ferry building up to pier 39 and fisherman's wharf
[21:02] <akk> Cable cars -- everybody wants to see those.
[21:02] <philipballew> MarkDude, Lets take a good tour of the castro
[21:02] <MarkDude> And straight ahead are dot-comers
[21:02] <pleia2> then people can take a cable car down to union square, hop on bart and head back to oakland
[21:02] <MarkDude> Castro is actually a great tour
[21:02] <MarkDude> Castro is far less gay than people would think
[21:02] <philipballew> haight and ashberry maybe as well
[21:02] <pleia2> ok, I do the Tourist Tourist tour, MarkDude can do The Castro tour ;)
[21:02]  * MarkDude does not use gay as pejorative, btw
[21:03] <bkerensa> MarkDude: I will go with you to the Castro
[21:03] <bkerensa> :D
[21:03] <MarkDude> More of a descriptor
[21:03]  * philipballew agrees with MarkDude for the record
[21:03] <akk> Castro just looks like more city streets to me.
[21:03] <bkerensa> they have good sushi
[21:03] <bkerensa> and
[21:03] <bkerensa> is Hot Cookie still on the Castro?
[21:03] <bkerensa> :D
[21:03] <MarkDude> Chinatown rocks
[21:03] <pleia2> I am cranky at The Castro since Bagdad Cafe closed :(
[21:03] <MarkDude> Bagdad rocked
[21:04] <akk> The Exploratorium and the area around there is fun to take visitors, too.
[21:04] <grantbow> I wonder why the EU-US schedule deviated this cycle
[21:04] <bkerensa> I can get into the Exploratorium for free :D
[21:04] <pleia2> akk: these are evening trips, so most of the museums will be out :(
[21:04]  * bkerensa knows the executive director
[21:04] <bkerensa> :D
[21:04] <akk> oh, right ... and walks along the beach and so forth aren't so good then either.
[21:05] <bkerensa> akk: Uhh Ocean Beach is a blast at night time
[21:05] <bkerensa> :D
[21:05] <bkerensa> Bonfire!
[21:05] <MarkDude> akk, I need D's size for that shirt
[21:05] <grantbow> there are so many unique tech events that could take place around UDS
[21:05] <MarkDude> I have every thing else but that
[21:05] <grantbow> in Oakland
[21:05] <philipballew> skywalker ranch is probably closed as well?
[21:05] <grantbow> tech museum isn't easy to get to yet
[21:05] <bkerensa> Our luck will be that UDS will get occupied and we wont even be able to get to it :D
[21:05] <MarkDude> Dangerous G's old gang he used to run with has a chapter in Oakland, maybe he can set up a tour
[21:06] <pleia2> philipballew: is it ever open?
[21:06] <MarkDude> Carpool to tech museum
[21:06] <grantbow> the tech OS occupy theme is growing
[21:06] <philipballew> pleia2, ive seen it a few times, however it is a good view to just see it. but its out there a ways
[21:07] <pleia2> philipballew: ah, cool, I didn't realize there was public access at all
[21:07] <grantbow> in essence Ubuntu will occupy Oakland - great PR
[21:08] <philipballew> the apple store in union square next to fidm might be a good place to visit
[21:08] <grantbow> I wonder what % of machines in the City of Oakland run Linux
[21:08] <pleia2> grantbow: we'll have to invite some of our teachers out :) (especially robert from ASCEND!)
[21:09] <grantbow> oh yeah
[21:09] <akk> I'd be interested in that % anywhere, not just Oakland. No way to know, though.
[21:09] <pleia2> (I've been working with Robert a lot lately to prep for my SCALE talk, he's awesome)
[21:09] <grantbow> the IT department might have a fair guess
[21:10] <grantbow> http://www.oaklandnet.com/government/informationtech/technology_home.htm
[21:14] <grantbow> http://www.oakgov.com/infotech/
[21:14] <grantbow> cio is Phil Bertolini, Dir of IT is Edwin Poisson
[21:14] <grantbow> oops, that's oakland, michigan!
[21:15] <pleia2> hehe
[21:15] <pleia2> btw: http://blog.longnow.org/2011/12/20/lawrence-lessig-ticket-info/
[21:15] <pleia2> already got my ticket
[21:16] <pleia2> (the topic interests me less than the speaker, it's lessig!)
[21:16] <broder> huh, that seems like a weird topic for Long Now
[21:17] <pleia2> yeah, it does
[21:17] <pleia2> I'll be interested to hear how they make it work
[21:19] <bkerensa> Server Migration time
[21:19] <bkerensa> :D
[21:59] <pleia2> grantbow: added your gmail address to the partimus discuss list whitelist
[22:17] <bkerensa> I utterly hate migrating servers via git
[22:17] <bkerensa> :(
[22:35] <grantbow> pleia2: you approved it before I could delete and resend with a better email :-)
[23:09] <pleia2> the taco truck near best buy seriously makes the best quesadillas on the planet
[23:13] <akk> weird!
[23:13] <akk> I used to work at a place where the local roach coach made this great stir-fry thing (she called it chow mein, but it wasn't anything like anyone else's chow mein). You never know where you'll find a good cook.
[23:15] <pleia2> this taco truck is actually michelin recommended
[23:15] <pleia2> who knew they rated taco trucks? :)
[23:15] <nhaines> Food trucks are the new big fad. :)
[23:16] <pleia2> convenient that this happens when I finally move into a city and can take advantage of it
[23:17] <akk> The techshop opening in San Jose had about 10 different food trucks, all different ethnicities -- impressive spread.
[23:18] <bkerensa> Food Carts for the win
[23:18] <bkerensa> :D
[23:21] <nhaines> I remember one food truck--this one was just standard, not a gourmet one--where I bought chicken tortilla soup on the advice from colleagues that it was incredible.  Then I immediately severely burned my tongue on the soup and couldn't taste it.
[23:21] <nhaines> Fortunately, I'd bought aloe vera juice to drink along with the soup.
[23:23] <pleia2> haha
[23:27] <nhaines> It was also the first time I'd tried aloe vera juice.  Fortuitous as it turns out!
[23:28] <bkerensa> I need to learn how to make thai iced teas :D I could drink them all day
[23:29] <broder> i've never found a recipe i believed
[23:29] <pleia2> there are some mixes that are pretty good (in fact, I think some of the places around here use them)
[23:29] <broder> sounds like cheating
[23:31] <bkerensa> Well I know the owner of a Pho shop and he makes excellent thai iced teas so maybe I can bribe him into the recipe :D
[23:32] <pleia2> the place across the street from me will do take out tea :d
[23:38] <bkerensa> ahh your lucky :D
[23:39] <bkerensa> I need a Sushi Shop & Thai Iced Tea place right across the street
[23:39] <bkerensa> I think the only good thing I have is Subway Delivery :D
[23:39] <bkerensa> 24/7
[23:53]  * akk wonders if anything interesting will be going on at Chabot when UDS is in town
[23:54] <pleia2> wow, I didn't even know about it
[23:54] <akk> though that's probably hard to get to with public transit
[23:54] <akk> I haven't been there since they moved to the new site
[23:55] <akk> I'm not really much for the glitzy planetarium stuff anyway, but their telescope making workshop is a great "open hardware" sort of place.
[23:57] <akk> I finished my 8" there and have been very happy with the results.