[00:00] <JulianR> Nope, not with GParted. I'm using the Disk Utility from Ubuntu
[00:00] <kroq-gar78> ewww
[00:00] <JulianR> Since it's not the main partition.
[00:00] <kroq-gar78> me no likey
[00:00] <JulianR> I had Windows in that partition.
[00:00] <TiMiDo> lol
[00:00] <Ibyss> sudo apt-get install gparted
[00:00] <TiMiDo> kroq-gar78, did you fix you're error?
[00:00] <kroq-gar78> yup
[00:00] <TiMiDo> cool ;)
[00:00] <kroq-gar78> TiMiDo: nope T_T
[00:00] <monsterwizard> has anyone had experience with wubi?
[00:00] <TiMiDo> oh i though you did.
[00:00] <kroq-gar78> lol sry
[00:00] <Ibyss> monsterwizard: Yes, an older version if it.
[00:00] <Ibyss> monsterwizard: Works well.
[00:01] <monsterwizard> not for me it seems
[00:01] <monsterwizard> :/
[00:01] <kroq-gar78> monsterwizard: worked flawlessly for me... 3-4 times...
[00:01] <JulianR> Ibyss: doing that =)
[00:01] <Ibyss> monsterwizard: Issues?
[00:01] <TiMiDo> kroq-gar78, msg me for a sec
[00:01] <kroq-gar78> TiMiDo: ok
[00:01] <monsterwizard> I got an error
[00:01] <monsterwizard> which told me to look in a file
[00:01] <monsterwizard> this is the file http://pastebin.com/VtkG7tsF
[00:01] <monsterwizard> I've attempted to install it 5 times
[00:01] <monsterwizard> the same error appears
[00:02] <IdleWarship> What's a quick way in terminal to loop a command, with pause, until I escape it?
[00:02] <kroq-gar78> monsterwizard: redownload both the wubi installer and image maybe?
[00:02] <monsterwizard> I've done that 5 times
[00:02] <JulianR> Okay, doing the format with gparted now.
[00:02] <TiMiDo> IdleWarship, bash scripting ;)
[00:02] <vsync_> monsterwizard maybe check the last line? =)))
[00:02] <abu-bakr> hi folks, can't seem to get the time and date settings to come up  ?!?
[00:02] <abu-bakr> fresh install 11:04
[00:03] <abu-bakr> wont show up on the bottom option after clicking on the clock or by going to preferences
[00:03] <abu-bakr> any ideas?
[00:03] <karni> IdleWarship: while (true) do <command_here>; sleep 1; done;
[00:04] <IdleWarship> TiMiDo: karni: Great, thanks. Doin' it.
[00:04] <karni> IdleWarship: Ctrl+D to stop
[00:04] <IdleWarship> BOth.
[00:04] <bf4648> I wipped my mac mini 's hard drive clean & installed ubuntu on it...how do I install the drivers for wireless internet to work?
[00:04]  * abu-bakr rings the bell
[00:04] <TiMiDo> ok IdleWarship  ;)
[00:04] <TiMiDo> cool
[00:04] <karni> IdleWarship: not sure what you mean by bot. That *is* a bash script.
[00:04] <karni> *both
[00:05] <bf4648> anybody?
[00:05] <bf4648> I've got the CD that came w/ mac mini
[00:05] <reisub> So i'm sitting here, watching a flash video (youtube) and i click the link to bring me to another video, and I get a system hangup, complete hangup.  So i reboot, start my other browser (Cause i'm used to system fuckups) and play another flash video (again, youtube)  and again.. I click a link for the next video and i get a total system lockup.. I check my logfiles ang see this... CE: hpet increased min_delta_ns to 25312 nsec
[00:06] <reisub> actually that's the last of three in the logs
[00:06] <insectatorious> guys, in a bash script, after executing a command, what's the check to see if the command completed successfully? something with a $ I think
[00:06] <bf4648> $result = $cmd, $result, $response_code
[00:07] <IdleWarship> karni: Oh, I thought a bash script was specifically a .sh, and not script in terminal.  I see they are one in the same, now.
[00:07] <insectatorious> bf4648: what's the $response_code?
[00:07] <karni> IdleWarship: Right. Just paste that into terminal, and replace <command_here with a bash command/script you need.
[00:07] <reisub> so anyone help me figure out my problem?
[00:07] <reisub> i can reproduce it really simply here
[00:07] <army> insectatorious: you mean $? it has the returncode
[00:07] <vsync_> reisub you could try to disable hpet on boot
[00:08] <bf4648> sorry return_code
[00:08] <insectatorious> army: whoa! that was a brain freeze on my part...thanks so much!
[00:09] <reisub> interdesting
[00:09] <reisub> it's not doing it with firefox
[00:09] <reisub> maybe it's a bug with chromium/chrome
[00:09] <inz> insectatorious, you can also simply do if command; then ... fi
[00:10] <reisub> yep here we go, it's happening only in chrome?
[00:10] <reisub> yep fuck google chrome
[00:10] <kroq-gar78> !language | reisub
[00:10] <arrrghhh_> !language
[00:10] <arrrghhh_> lol
[00:11] <kroq-gar78> beat you!
[00:11] <arrrghhh_> :P
[00:11] <insectatorious> inz: thanks! and going by that and what bf4648 said, I should be able to do $result = command  ?
[00:11] <reisub> woah there geeks
[00:11] <bf4648> np
[00:14] <abu-bakr> ok.. can someone at least tell me what the heck super cow powers are?
[00:15] <jack_^> abu-bakr: dont worry about it. you dont have them
[00:15] <DeviceZer0> after upgrading my 11.10 system none of my cifs/samba mounts will mount.
[00:16] <abu-bakr> aherm jack_^ my terminal would beg to differ
[00:16] <jack_^> abu-bakr: your terminal tells you that you have super cow powers? :P
[00:16] <DeviceZer0> http://pastebin.com/XFC2seJi
[00:16] <abu-bakr> lol
[00:16] <abu-bakr> no it says that the APT does
[00:16] <Scriven> Can anyone here point me to GPS 'stuff'? Having a hard time getting usb gps working w/ ubuntu.
[00:16] <King_Ozzy> Scriven there is the channel #ubuntu
[00:17] <jack_^> abu-bakr: try sudo apt-get moo
[00:17] <Scriven> King_Ozzy, isn't this #ubuntu?
[00:17] <King_Ozzy> right, so spit out the question :D
[00:17] <abu-bakr> jack_^:  oic
[00:18] <abu-bakr> so its just a way for nerds to blow off steam at the terminal huh?
[00:18] <Scriven> King_Ozzy, I don't know enough about the problem to ask intelligently yet, that's why I'm looking for basic pointers. The gps seems to be installed, kinda of, but isn't giving useful data. It's usb-serial built in, which shows up under lsusb, but that's about it.
[00:19] <Scriven> using a sony gps unit reportedly.
[00:19] <Scriven> it's marketed as a GPS1100U
[00:20] <abu-bakr> Fellas, I can't seem to get the time and date settings to come up  ?!?
[00:20] <abu-bakr> fresh install 11:04
[00:20] <abu-bakr> wont show up on the bottom option after clicking on the clock or by going to preferences
[00:20] <abu-bakr> any ideas?
[00:20] <abu-bakr> how do i reinstall the package or something,, that might fix it
[00:20] <kroq-gar78> maybe update system?
[00:20] <OerHeks> set your time in the bios first
[00:21] <almoxarife> Scriven: what useful data is missing?
[00:21] <King_Ozzy> Scriven what does "installed kind of" mean?
[00:22] <Scriven> almoxarife, AFAIK there is no useful satellite data coming through. I'm wondering first how to do basic hardware verification. IE, is this device working.
[00:22] <almoxarife> Scriven: what did you install to take the data and use it?
[00:22] <Scriven> King_Ozzy, the usb-serial shows up in lsusb, dmesg shows driver installed. gps programs attempt to communicate with /dev/ttyUSB0, but the gui/cli programs fail with no data, and I don't know enough about the stream to know what's wrong.
[00:23] <ubuntu> hi
[00:23] <Scriven> I've tried various programs, xgps, cgps, gpsprof, a gui one who's name escapes me.
[00:23] <abu-bakr> OerHeks: bios time is fine
[00:23] <King_Ozzy> whose
[00:23] <Scriven> gpspipe -r does give information, I just don't know enough about GPS to know if it's valid or not.
[00:23] <abu-bakr> the time reads correct.. i just cant get in to the settings .. (i like to have the date showing!)
[00:25] <Scriven> tangogps was the other one  I tried.
[00:25] <kroq-gar78> abu-bakr: don't do this yet, but maybe "unity --replace"? that resets unity, right? Assuming ur using unity
[00:26] <almoxarife> Scriven: so, you have installed a piece of hardware and it produces output, but you can't trust it, given that its gps I would continue to not trust it till you can get it to place a big X on a chart and agree that is where you are at on earth
[00:26] <OerHeks> abu-bakr, that is odd, file a bugreport
[00:26] <abu-bakr> kroq-gar78: no sorry.. dont use unity..
[00:27] <Scriven> almoxarife, that's exactly where I'm at.
[00:27] <abu-bakr> when i clock on the link under preferences, the curser has a think about it.. but then decides to do nothing..
[00:27] <almoxarife> Scriven: opencpn will take the input from a gps and locate you on a chart, given that it already has the chart
[00:27] <abu-bakr> maybe the cow needs easter eggs?
[00:27] <Scriven> almoxarife, the various programs that are supposed to the "you are here" mapping for me fail to do anything useful.
[00:27] <abu-bakr> i meant 'when i click on the link!'
[00:27] <Scriven> almoxarife, trying it.
[00:28] <theborger> Mikeyn: no you can do the same steps on a linux box
[00:28] <almoxarife> Scriven: also there is a better app from win called 'seaclear' and it runs in wine and it will take the gps input, I have used it a lot more than opencpn
[00:29] <Scriven> ok, will try that one too.
[00:29] <Mikeyn> theborger, my ubuntu install errors, hence me needing to boot from a usb install
[00:29] <theborger> Mikeyn: so boot the eeepc your using? with a live usb?
[00:29] <Mikeyn> im using my gfs eeepc with windows xp
[00:30] <jpmh> how do I set key bindings in 11.10?
[00:30] <almoxarife> Scriven: seaclear with gps and the correct chart of your area, can be trusted, well, I have trusted it
[00:30] <Mikeyn> im trying to make the usb bootable on my macbook, which i was originally using
[00:30] <theborger> Mikeyn: all of those xp utilities to burn to usb are mostley crap
[00:30] <Scriven> almoxarife, So is that a basic setup, if it doesn't work there's hardware issues? It would be nice for me to at least eliminate busted hardware at some point.
[00:30] <theborger> Mikeyn: so if you want to be sure it is the usb causing the problem. Use linux and dd
[00:32] <Ibyss> TiMiDo: THink it'll be wise for me to switch to using oss?
[00:32] <almoxarife> Scriven: you should be able to see output, the output will look like greek without something for it to actually put a big X on, then where the X lies better be where you are at
[00:32] <Ibyss> Instead of alsamixer?
[00:33] <Scriven> almoxarife, is there some place I can just get that stream from gpspipe -r verified?
[00:34] <almoxarife> Scriven: no idea, do you see the output coords? does the coords match reality?
[00:34] <Scriven> the output is NEMA stream data that I don't know how to manually interpret.
[00:34] <Scriven> or at least appears to be.
[00:35] <TiMiDo> Ibyss, ??
[00:35] <almoxarife> Scriven: correct
[00:35] <almoxarife> Scriven: you have wine ?
[00:35] <Scriven> yes.
[00:36] <almoxarife> Scriven: find 'seaclear' , you near a US waterway?
[00:36] <Scriven> downloading seaclear now in fact.
[00:37] <Scriven> Fairly close to Seattle (I'm in Canada).
[00:37] <kernelpanicker> After locking myself out of sudo on ubuntu running on a VM running on KVM on my server, I can't get into single user mode to add a root password because I can't get into grub; the image starts too fast to use virt-viewer to get to it.  Help!
[00:37] <almoxarife> Scriven: near san juan de fuqua channel?
[00:37] <Scriven> yup
[00:38] <Scriven> juan de fuqua, yes.
[00:39] <Lunar_Lander> hello, I just saw in my Software Center history three entries: "Today" "Tuesday" and "October 12"
[00:39] <almoxarife> Scriven: great, use the US charts for the area nearest your location, with seaclear you will get a little boat planted on top of your location
[00:39] <Lunar_Lander> can that thing be because I use 11.10 and this was released October 13?
[00:39] <Scriven> us charts, ok.
[00:40] <almoxarife> Scriven: unless you want to pay for canadian charts, you guys are cheap
[00:40] <almoxarife> Scriven: this is getting off topic, if you need more help, pm me
[00:40] <Scriven> lol, nah, just wondering why it's saying I'm in the middle of the atlantic ocean.
[00:41] <almoxarife> Scriven: zero lat, zero long
[00:41] <Lunar_Lander> any idea about my observation?
[00:42] <OerHeks> Lunar_Lander, some iso's were build 11, yours at 12 and last at 13 october, correct
[00:42] <Lunar_Lander> ah
[00:42] <Lunar_Lander> so that entry marks what was installed from the CD
[00:43] <OerHeks> yes
[00:43] <Lunar_Lander> thanks
[00:43] <Lunar_Lander> :)
[00:43] <reisub> so disabling hpet didn't work
[00:44] <reisub> it still freezes up
[00:44] <reisub> it's like the latest updates fucked it up
[00:44] <reisub> wait
[00:44] <reisub> that's like always
[00:44] <reisub> so here's how to reproduce the issue, running 10.10, navigate to a youtube video, let it play about all the way, then click a link for another video
[00:44] <reisub> do this once or twice and you'll get a flash on your screen then the whole system will lock up
[00:45] <OerHeks> reisub, what version ubuntu, what browser & version etc ?
[00:45] <reisub> 10.10
[00:45] <reisub> all browsers
[00:46] <reisub> before i disabled hpet i got  "hpet increasing max_delta_ns to xxxxx nsec
[00:46] <reisub> that would happen just as it froze every time
[00:47] <reisub> there would be like 3-5 lines
[00:47] <reisub> each with a larger xxxxx number
[00:48] <reisub> i also get these and don't know why
[00:48] <reisub> pciehp 0000:00:01.0:pcie04: Card not present on Slot(16)
[00:48] <reisub> pciehp 0000:00:01.0:pcie04: Card present on Slot(16)
[00:55] <khaime_> I am running ubuntu 10.10 on a hp compaq nc6220 who has a built-in "Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 2200BG [ Calexico2 ] Network Conneciton" ...........i read that the ipw200 driver is the driver to make this work, and that it is a part of the kernel of 10.10.........but for some reason I can not get it to work....also on this laptop , the wirelss and the bluetooth are integrated...i can turn on the bluetooth , but i can not turn on t
[00:55] <khaime_> he wireless.....when I do a "lshw -C network" it shows : "*-network DISABLED"  for the wireless....can anyone help ?   thanks in advance !
[00:55] <reisub> I wonder if it's actually flash causing the issue
[00:55] <reisub> just reinstalled to see
[00:56] <reisub> gimmie a minute to play the video and prepare for breakdown
[00:57] <reisub> well here we go
[00:58] <reisub> yep
[00:58] <reisub> that's the issue
[01:01] <alexxander> not sure i have it written  down right - if i want to change my dns then i use sudo nano /etc/resolv.config right?
[01:01] <TiMiDo> no
[01:01] <TiMiDo> use /etc/hosts
[01:01] <TiMiDo> ;)
[01:01] <TiMiDo> for a hostname
[01:01] <FloodBot1> TiMiDo: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:02] <reisub> allright guys
[01:02] <reisub> why does flash ALWAYS break ubuntu?
[01:02] <King_Ozzy> alright guy
[01:02] <reisub> and what can i do to fix it?
[01:02] <TiMiDo> reisub, amd 64?
[01:03] <reisub> nope
[01:03] <reisub> pae
[01:03] <blackshirt> reisub: flash not working greats on my linux
[01:03] <King_Ozzy> pae?
[01:03] <TiMiDo> i686?
[01:03] <reisub> Linux laptop 2.6.35-31-generic-pae #63-Ubuntu SMP Mon Nov 28 20:48:50 UTC 2011 i686 GNU/Linux
[01:03] <TiMiDo> lol
[01:03] <TiMiDo> reisub, install a kernel-image something like i386
[01:03] <reisub> why?
[01:04] <reisub> i haven't had any problems up until i did the updates pushed down today
[01:04] <TiMiDo> because flash is very buggy in terms of architecture i686
[01:04] <TiMiDo> what type of laptop or computer is it reisub "
[01:04] <reisub> vmus m
[01:04] <reisub> er
[01:04] <reisub> m70vm
[01:05] <reisub> friggen numlock
[01:05] <TiMiDo> are you drunk?
[01:05] <reisub> no my fuggin numlock was off
[01:05] <reisub> retard
[01:05] <TiMiDo> lol
[01:05] <reisub> so how can i view what updates were pushed down today
[01:05] <reisub> and can i uninstall them updates?
[01:06] <TiMiDo> reisub, use synaptic
[01:06] <TiMiDo> ;)
[01:06] <TiMiDo> for GUI interface
[01:06] <reisub> so there's an 'updated today' view?
[01:07] <TiMiDo> check it out :)
[01:07] <TiMiDo> it will tell you there
[01:07] <reisub> i am checking it out
[01:07] <reisub> and there is no 'updated today' link
[01:08] <TiMiDo> check the packages that we're installed
[01:08] <reisub> we are?
[01:08] <reisub> ok you're obviously no help
[01:09] <TiMiDo> lol
[01:09] <TiMiDo> ;)
[01:09] <TiMiDo> ty for that
[01:09] <Kur0Tsuk1> hi guys
[01:09] <reisub> so anyone /else/ know how i can view which packages were updated today ?
[01:10] <Kur0Tsuk1> anyone know how fixed the problem with sis drivers
[01:11] <blackshirt> Kur0Tsuk1: what the problem with sis ?
[01:13]  * OerHeks hears SiS and feels sad
[01:16] <Canadian1296> Anyone active?
[01:17] <OerHeks> hi Canadian1296
[01:18] <Canadian1296> OerHeks, hi...
[01:20] <Canadian1296> Need some help writing a script, should be fairly simple.
[01:21] <Canadian1296> Can anyone help?
[01:21] <seidos> in what language Canadian1296 ?
[01:21] <TiMiDo> bash?
[01:21] <Canadian1296> sedios, bash
[01:21] <TiMiDo> Canadian1296, join #bash
[01:21] <TiMiDo> ;)
[01:21] <TiMiDo> for help
[01:22] <Barridus> is there a way to obtain the path to the folder you're looking at in dolphin so i can copy and paste it elsewhere?  i used to be able to do that but it appears that function has been removed/hidden
[01:22] <Clayman1000x> Somebody at Cnet forums told me that someone here might be able to help me with a netgear wna3100 wireless usb adapter
[01:22] <Barridus> used to in previous ubuntu(s)*
[01:23] <Clayman1000x> for ubuntu 11.10
[01:28] <wolfmitchell> It says that I am not in the sudoers file, but I was earlier today and I am the only user on the system. Any help?
[01:29] <jrwren> where does upstart store it status ?
[01:29] <jrwren> becuase I say start... it doesn't bother to try to run start.
[01:29] <jrwren> it thinks it is already started, because of some stored status.
[01:30] <milamber> wolfmitchell:
[01:30] <milamber> wolfmitchell: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/fixsudo
[01:30] <TiMiDo> jrwren, check out /etc/init.d out ;)
[01:30] <TiMiDo> or service appname start or stop
[01:31] <Kireji> how do I add a path so that teh man pages appear in man?
[01:31] <Kireji> $MANPATH is blank, and there is a mapath command, referencing some .manpath file
[01:31] <jpmh> how do I set keybindings with ubuntu 11.10
[01:31] <wolfmitchell> How do I go into recovery mode when I installed with WUBI?
[01:31] <Kireji> but the man page for manpath doesn't spcifify the format of the .manpath file
[01:31] <jrwren> TiMiDo: those are old init.d rc.d style script. I'm talking about status of upstart jobs
[01:31] <Kireji> dizzyingly stupid
[01:32] <warfaren> TiMiDo: your nickname looks a lot like TiMidity. that's no coincidence is it?
[01:32] <TiMiDo> warfaren, i am confidence 100 % ;)
[01:33] <warfaren> :P
[01:33] <TiMiDo> jrwren, exec /bin/foo --opt -xyz foo bar
[01:33] <TiMiDo> that's how i help around in launchpad ;)
[01:33] <Clayman1000x> Ubuntu 11.10 does not see my Netgear wna3100 wireless usb adapter, so I can't get on the internet
[01:33] <jrwren> let me start over. upstart isn't execing or respawning dbus. so I get no dbus on boot. How can I fix this?
[01:34] <Clayman1000x> I'm short a driver package I think
[01:34] <TiMiDo> Clayman1000x, type dmesg to see if is detect it or not
[01:34] <TiMiDo> and check the dmesg output and paste it some where
[01:34] <wolfmitchell> When running Ubuntu with WUBI, how do go into recovery mode?
[01:35] <OerHeks> Clayman1000x, askubuntu has the answer > http://askubuntu.com/questions/48563/could-anyone-help-me-get-my-netgear-wna3100-broadcom-bcm43231-wireless-adapter
[01:35] <TiMiDo> wolfmitchell, http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/9142/easily-install-ubuntu-linux-with-windows-using-the-wubi-installer/
[01:35] <Rallias> How do I open a deja-dup backup in windows?
[01:36] <TiMiDo> with windows back up?
[01:36] <euc> Hi, I have a VIA KM400 graphics chipset. How can I use Compiz with it? When I try, I get: Fatal: Support for non power of two textures missing. Thanks for any help you can give!
[01:36] <Rallias> TiMiDo Link?
[01:37] <Rallias> TiMiDo I made a deja-dup backup while I was on linux, it has data I need on windows, and right now I don't have access to linux.
[01:37] <wolfmitchell> ...I do not have the Grub menu,
[01:37] <TiMiDo> Rallias, http://linuxaria.com/article/deja-dup-the-backup-simple-and-fast-is-served?lang=en
[01:38] <Kireji> how do I update man to include one more directory?
[01:38] <Rallias> TMiDo the issue is, I need to open it in windows, not linux
[01:38] <Kireji> I've manually built and installed a new program, in /usr/local/programname  and it inclues a bunch of man pages in /usr/local/programname/man/man[58]/*
[01:40] <TiMiDo> Kireji, sudo updatedb
[01:40] <TiMiDo> ;)
[01:40] <TiMiDo> and you're good
[01:40] <Clayman1000x> I have to log off xp and go into ubuntu to try dmesg, be right back
[01:40] <TiMiDo> it will sync you're new man pages so you can view them with xman or man or
[01:40] <TiMiDo> whatever the case might be.
[01:41] <Kireji> TiMiDo: I thought updatedb just did the locale db
[01:41] <Kireji> erm the *locate db
[01:41] <TiMiDo> naw
[01:41] <TiMiDo> if you run it as normal user of course for the local db ;)
[01:42] <TiMiDo> if you run it with sudo privileges it will look in the /root directory
[01:42] <TiMiDo> or whatever you might have them locate it at
[01:44] <Suit_Of_Sables> hey gang, On one of my linux machines the tty screen only seems to register every other keystroke. This is a huge pain in the butt! I know it isn't the input device because it happens on both my wired keyboard and my wireless mini keyboard remote. has anyone ever heard of a problem like this? Any idea what might be causing it?
[01:45] <TiMiDo> Suit_Of_Sables, which release are you running?
[01:45] <wan> my graphic card is messed up - how can I launch ubuntu ? are there some graphic drivers that would do all the processing on CPU ? on windows there's vga.dll
[01:46] <TiMiDo> pastebin you're xorg.conf wan  and you're xorg error ;)
[01:46] <Suit_Of_Sables> TiMiDo: This system actually has arch on it. But the people in that channel are not so helpful sometimes :*( I figured it would be an issue across distros
[01:46] <Ibyss> TiMiDo: I was wondering if I should switch to using Opensource Sound System or not.
[01:46] <milamber> !nomodeset | wan
[01:46] <TiMiDo> Suit_Of_Sables, i have use arch before
[01:46] <Ibyss> Alsa breaks a lot.
[01:46] <TiMiDo> but refer it to #archlinux
[01:46] <TiMiDo> or to there forums
[01:46] <temporizer> anyone find a fix for the "kworker" issue?
[01:46] <temporizer> i have 13 of them running now
[01:47] <temporizer> i'm using 11.04
[01:47] <TiMiDo> temporizer, check the kworker ppa repository it self.
[01:47] <Guest14440> hi, one question.. as it seems any web server is running on my ubuntu (localhost shows "It works!..." but i stopped apache2 und lampp...but any server must still be running. how can i find out which one?
[01:47] <wan> thanks, i'll try it - but it's more than corrupted splash screen - monitor just goes to suspended mode, and whole computer hangs - and thats due to damaged graphic card, but i'll try it, thanks
[01:47] <TiMiDo> temporizer https://launchpad.net/+search?field.text=kworker
[01:47] <temporizer> TiMiDo, how exactly do i do that?
[01:49] <TiMiDo> temporizer, saw you're answer?
[01:50] <euc> Asking again… Hi, I have a VIA KM400 graphics chipset. How can I use Compiz with it? When I try, I get: Fatal: Support for non power of two textures missing. Thanks for any help you can give!
[01:50] <TiMiDo> euc, what drivers are you using?
[01:50] <TiMiDo> on you're xorg?
[01:50] <TiMiDo> conf?
[01:51] <temporizer> so no. no fix... yet.
[01:51] <Ibyss> I can't wait to upgrade my hardware, I badly want to use gnome.
[01:51] <computa_mike> hi - Anyone there used Bombono?  I'm writing a DVD but the video is all corrupted and rubbish.  It's totally nothing like the original source video.  Running Ubuntu 11.10.   Is this going to be an upstream thing?
[01:51] <euc> OpenChrome
[01:52] <MooseRFun> Ibyss: you don't need much hardware to run gnome, unity perhaps yes though
[01:52] <Ibyss> MooseRFun: I'm on a pentium 4 computer :(
[01:52] <MooseRFun> Ibyss: thats not bad, plenty for gnome, I ran linux on p4 for quite some time and it ran well
[01:53] <Ibyss> MooseRFun: I like gnome 3 though. I hate to be in a future freeze.
[01:53] <euc> Timido: OpenChrome, yes.
[01:53] <TiMiDo> euc, openchrome?
[01:53] <euc> TiMiDo: Sorry, what do you mean by 'conf?'?
[01:53] <euc> TiMiDo, yup
[01:54] <TiMiDo> euc, what error do you get while running compiz how are you running it?
[01:54] <euc> TiMiDo: 1:0.2.904+svn842-0ubuntu1
[01:55] <MooseRFun> Ibyss, does gnome 3 use unity by default?
[01:56] <Ibyss> MooseRFun: I thought unity is a modified version of gnome3.
[01:56] <WhyWhyWhy> arnt those for tablets?
[01:56] <WhyWhyWhy> gnome 2 is for desktops i think
[01:56] <MooseRFun> *shrug* not sure.
[01:56] <Clayman1000x> TiMiDo, how do I get you that output
[01:57] <Ibyss> Gnome 3 and unity are different.
[01:57] <Ibyss> Unifty is a fork.
[01:57] <milamber> lbyss: unity is not a fork of gnome 3
[01:58] <kroq-gar78> lybss: unity isn't a fork.
[01:58] <milamber> MooseRFun: ubuntu uses unity by default
[01:58] <kroq-gar78> Ibyss: it's completely different. Just uses Nux and some other stuff. I'm pretty sure it uses GTK3 (was gtk2)
[01:58] <milamber> !nounity | MooseRFun
[01:59] <Clayman1000x> the dmesg output
[01:59] <Clayman1000x> I have it on notepad now
[01:59] <euc> TiMiDo: oops, sorry. I just accidentally killed the fallback wm and had to use copy-and-paste to construct a command to restart it because I didn't have any keyboard focus…
[02:00] <boldfilter> Are there plans to makes unity for customizable?
[02:00] <kroq-gar78> Hello all. It seems my bzr repo got corrupted and I can't do anything. I always get this error message: bzr: ERROR: Config file file:///home/kroq-gar78/prog/python/primes/trunk/.bzr/branch/branch.conf is not UTF-8 encoded. Can anyone help please?
[02:00] <kroq-gar78> boldfilter: why not?
[02:01] <boldfilter> Thats all thats stopping me from using it
[02:01] <kroq-gar78> boldfilter: I would be surprised if there wasn't. There are always 3rd party config programs.
[02:01] <euc> TiMiDo: I'm running: 'compiz'; it outputs: compiz (core) - Fatal: Support for non power of two textures missing compiz (core) - Error: Failed to manage screen: 0 compiz (core) - Fatal: No manageable screens found on display :0.0 Launching fallback window manager
[02:01] <kroq-gar78> boldfilter: what do you want customized?
[02:01] <boldfilter> And a classic launcher option
[02:01] <kroq-gar78> boldfilter: like in GNOME 2?
[02:01] <boldfilter> I want to be able to move it and a classic launcher
[02:02] <boldfilter> thats all I want, nothingg fancy
[02:02] <TiMiDo> !paste
[02:02] <TiMiDo> Clayman1000x, ;)
[02:03] <kroq-gar78> boldfilter: there's an extension that I'm using that moves launcher to bottom (no top or left, sry). Here is the link: http://www.webupd8.org/2011/11/install-ubuntu-unity-bottom-launcher.html
[02:03] <Guest14440> any suggestions?.. as it seems any web server is running on my ubuntu (localhost shows "It works!...") but i stopped apache2 and lampp...but any server must still be running. how can i find out which one?
[02:03] <TheHackOps> Hiya people
[02:03] <MooseRFun> milamber: I tried 11.10, but switched to a ubuntu derivative
[02:04] <boldfilter> And an option to disabe the unity launcher completely if id rather us docky etc
[02:04] <kroq-gar78> Guest14440: it's obviously using port 8080
[02:04] <TheHackOps> Just about to ask about 11.10, is it fast enough now to run on a medium speced laptop ?
[02:04] <kroq-gar78> Guest14440: that's the start ;) I'm looking up stuff now
[02:05] <TheHackOps> as far as flgrx and unity
[02:05] <kroq-gar78> TheHackOps: have to be more specific
[02:05] <Captain_Crow> Is there any way to get the cube to work on ubuntu 11.10?
[02:05] <TheHackOps> Visual Lag
[02:05] <milamber> Guest14440: can you pastebin the output of: sudo service httpd status && ps au | grep httpd
[02:05] <MooseRFun> Captain_Crow: compiz settings
[02:05] <kroq-gar78> Captain_Crow: use compiz-config-session-manager
[02:05] <TiMiDo> yeah Captain_Crow with compiz
[02:05] <TiMiDo> ;)
[02:05] <kroq-gar78> lol three at onece
[02:05] <Guest14440> thanks, and one sec pls
[02:05] <TiMiDo> yeah
[02:05] <TiMiDo> ;)
[02:05] <TiMiDo> nice helpers
[02:05] <milamber> TheHackOps: yes it should be fine
[02:05] <Captain_Crow> i did, i get a blank screen with no top or side bar
[02:05] <TheHackOps> 10.10 is being amazing to me soo i would only update if its as smooth as the old interface
[02:06] <boldfilter> Is there a place I could post my suggestions on what I think unity should be
[02:06] <kroq-gar78> Guset14440: I think this works too "netstat –tlnp | grep 8080"
[02:06] <Captain_Crow> i even tried restarting and it just comes back up with the background and nothing else
[02:06] <milamber> !launchpad | boldfilter
[02:06] <TheHackOps> Hmmmm Ok ill maybe dual boot it and see what happens
[02:07] <kroq-gar78> TheHackOps: wait don't
[02:07] <kroq-gar78> TheHackOps: do a live image first. See how it runs. Then, if you use windows, try doing a wubi install.
[02:07] <TheHackOps> why?
[02:07] <macguges> Hi, I don't get any dhcpoffers for wifi. Could someone help me troubleshoot wireless?
[02:07] <TheHackOps> No im ubuntu only house
[02:07] <TheHackOps> soz
[02:07] <Guest14440> milamber: httpd: unrecognized service. i'll try kroq-gar78s command
[02:08] <kroq-gar78> TheHackOps: ah nvm them. Still, try running through a live image.
[02:08] <Captain_Crow> what else do i have to do to make the cube work properly?
[02:08] <TheHackOps> kroq-gar78, Virtual box?
[02:08] <TiMiDo> !pastebin Clayman1000x
[02:08] <TiMiDo> !paste Clayman1000x
[02:08] <kroq-gar78> TheHackOps: no. burn a Live CD or make a Live USB.
[02:08] <TheHackOps> ohh yeh forgot about those
[02:08] <kroq-gar78> !pastebin | Clayman1000x
[02:08] <milamber> Guest14440: ok, but before we go down this route, you did refresh the page right?
[02:08] <kroq-gar78> TiMiDo: heh :P
[02:08] <TiMiDo> Guest14440 sudo apt-get install apache2
[02:09] <Guest14440> milamber: yes i did ^^
[02:09] <kroq-gar78> milamber: lol
[02:09] <TheHackOps> kroq-gar78, sometimes the images i download don't have the "Try" option i find it a hit and miss is their anyway to tell whats what
[02:09] <TiMiDo> and you're good to go
[02:09] <macguges> nvm I connected.
[02:09] <kroq-gar78> TheHackOps: Probably means a corrupted image.
[02:09] <milamber> Guest14440: ok, crazier things have happened
[02:10] <TheHackOps> kroq-gar78, well it allways installs fine ;)
[02:10] <TiMiDo> I'm lagged as hell
[02:10] <kroq-gar78> TheHackOps: just means you have to re-download :(
[02:10] <kroq-gar78> TheHackOps: oh, I don't know then.
[02:10] <TheHackOps> kroq-gar78, Seem's some are guiless installers
[02:10] <milamber> Guest14440: sudo service apache2 status
[02:10] <Clayman1000x> http://paste.ubuntu.com/777009/
[02:11] <milamber> Guest14440: ps au | grep httpd
[02:11] <kroq-gar78> TheHackOps: that means you're downloading the wrong image
[02:11] <Clayman1000x> that is neat
[02:11] <TheHackOps> Im rebooting from a Kernal update Wish me luck coz this may corrupt my system :)
[02:11] <Guest14440> milamber: Apache2 is NOT running
[02:11] <kroq-gar78> TheHackOps: good luck!
[02:11] <TheHackOps> kroq-gar78, whats the right image?
[02:11] <TheHackOps> brb
[02:11] <kroq-gar78> TheHackOps: desktop something... ubuntu-11.10-desktop-i386.iso or whatever.
[02:12] <kroq-gar78> oh oops
[02:12] <TiMiDo> now i'm no longer lagged
[02:12] <TiMiDo> ;)
[02:12] <kroq-gar78> yay
[02:12] <quinnwang> i
[02:12] <milamber> Guest14440: if you are getting the 'it works' page then what is happening?
[02:12] <TiMiDo> ~tell Clayman1000x about paste
[02:13] <ImTheDude_> hello
[02:13] <kroq-gar78> TiMiDo: the format is !{whatever command} | {user}
[02:13] <Guest14440> milamber: what do you mean? the page is displayed, thats all.
[02:13] <Clayman1000x> it is at pastebin
[02:13] <TiMiDo> cool ;)
[02:13] <TiMiDo> Clayman1000x, just paste it some where
[02:13] <kroq-gar78> lol
[02:14] <TiMiDo> and show me the link
[02:14] <TiMiDo> do not send it to me via DCC
[02:14] <Clayman1000x> here, http://paste.ubuntu.com/777009/
[02:14] <Clayman1000x> isn't this what you meant
[02:14] <TiMiDo> [    0.131430] pci 0000:00:02.0:   bridge window [io  disabled]
[02:14] <TiMiDo> ;)
[02:14] <TiMiDo> line 57
[02:15] <kroq-gar78> boldfilter: http://joesteiger.com/2011/06/18/install-classic-style-menu-cardapio-in-unity-launcher-2/ I think that's what you're looking for
[02:17] <JulianR> Excuse me, I have this partition in here (the one that had the bad sector)
[02:17] <bitf>  Hi. I have an ancient dell with a intel 82865G graphics controller. I can log in fine, but once I'm logged in I can't launch programs and mousing over icons causes them to disappear (note I'm using GNOME and everything worked the first use after install) Reinstalling did nothing and it passed a memtest. Any ideas as to the problem? Thanks.
[02:17] <JulianR> And I can't change the permissions
[02:17] <JulianR> Well I changed them with "sudo nautilus" and the permissions tab
[02:17] <TiMiDo> Clayman1000x, amd 64?
[02:17] <JulianR> but for example, I can't paste any document from other disks.
[02:18] <TiMiDo> JulianR, man chmod
[02:18] <Clayman1000x> yes
[02:18] <TiMiDo> ok
[02:19] <TheHackOps> update went ok with one problem
[02:19] <JulianR> TiMiDo, okay, the route to the that filesystem doesn't change everytime I mount it?
[02:19] <TiMiDo> Clayman1000x, what release?
[02:19] <TheHackOps> Masive screen lag now
[02:19] <TiMiDo> JulianR, take a look at /etc/fstab
[02:19] <TiMiDo> you'll find you'r answer there
[02:19] <Clayman1000x> 11.10, is that what you mean
[02:19] <TiMiDo> yeah Clayman1000x
[02:20] <TiMiDo> type sudo apt-get install linux-image-3.0.0-12-server
[02:20] <TiMiDo> sorry it was sudo apt-get install linux-image-3.0.0-12-generic
[02:20] <TiMiDo> so you can get you'r graphic card working better ;)
[02:20] <TheHackOps> TiMiDo, Why when i updated did i get massive screen lag
[02:20] <Clayman1000x> grapfics card?
[02:20] <TheHackOps> im on 10.10 still
[02:21] <TheHackOps> just used the update manager
[02:21] <TiMiDo> Clayman1000x, yeah so you're driver can work better
[02:21] <Clayman1000x> I need a wireless usb driver for the WNA3100 from netgear
[02:21] <TiMiDo> oh ok i though you we're bugging for you're xorg conf
[02:21] <TheHackOps> google
[02:21] <TiMiDo> ;)
[02:21] <JulianR> Thank you TiMiDo
[02:22] <Clayman1000x> graphics card works fine for now
[02:22] <TiMiDo> no problem JulianR ;)
[02:22] <Clayman1000x> I can't get internet
[02:22] <TheHackOps> TiMiDo, could u help me
[02:22] <Spadeski> is there a tool that allows you too get a color on the screen like GetColor! ffor XP?
[02:22] <TiMiDo> TheHackOps, can god help me?
[02:22] <TiMiDo> lol
[02:22] <TiMiDo> j/k
[02:22] <TheHackOps> Spadeski, Yes theirs one for firefox
[02:23] <Spadeski> Really do you know the name ?
[02:23] <TheHackOps> Let me check
[02:23] <TheHackOps> i have it
[02:23]  * Captain_Crow cant get compiz features to work with ubuntu w/o crashing the computer
[02:23] <TheHackOps> Spadeski, http://www.colorzilla.com/firefox/
[02:24] <Spadeski> TheHackOps Thanks Alot :D
[02:24] <TiMiDo> Captain_Crow, lol
[02:24] <TheHackOps> kkk
[02:24] <TiMiDo> shame on compiz
[02:24] <TheHackOps> TiMiDo, God helped u now can u plz help me :-0
[02:24] <TiMiDo> alright,
[02:25] <TiMiDo> ;) ask
[02:25] <TiMiDo> ahead ;)
[02:25] <TheHackOps> TiMiDo, Since i just updated 5 min ago i am getting rly bad screen lag
[02:25] <TiMiDo> TheHackOps, find out why wth dmesg or tail | dmesg
[02:26] <Captain_Crow> idk what im doing wrong, but i cant get any of the features to work except wobbly windows, and when i try anything else the computer just crashes and i cant do anything untill I reinstall ubuntu again
[02:28] <TheHackOps> TiMiDo, how do i know whats what lol
[02:28] <bitf> Hi. I have an ancient dell with a intel 82865G graphics controller. I can log in fine, but once I'm logged in I can't launch programs and mousing over icons causes them to disappear (note I'm using GNOME and everything worked the first use after install) Reinstalling did nothing and it passed a memtest. Any ideas as to the problem? Thanks.
[02:28] <kroq-gar78> Hello all. It seems my bzr repo got corrupted and I can't do anything. I always get this error message: bzr: ERROR: Config file file:///home/kroq-gar78/prog/python/primes/trunk/.bzr/branch/branch.conf is not UTF-8 encoded. Can anyone help please?
[02:28] <TiMiDo> Captain_Crow, sudo apt-get install python-compizconfig
[02:29] <Captain_Crow> how do i bring up the terminal?
[02:29] <Captain_Crow> theres no bar on the left now
[02:30] <TheHackOps> Alt F2
[02:30] <TiMiDo> configure compiz Captain_Crow
[02:30] <TiMiDo> you need to enable it
[02:31] <TiMiDo> Captain_Crow, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion
[02:35] <dimas_> is there any way to turn off the screen saver while i am watching a video perhaps in youtube?
[02:35] <TheHackOps> dim_, specificly when your watching youtube?
[02:35] <dimas_> perhaps
[02:36] <TheHackOps> dimas_, Uuhh no sorry
[02:36] <bitf> dimas_: in general, caffeine is what you want
[02:36] <dimas_> there os no way to turn off the screen saver while i am using flash player?
[02:36] <xTheGoat121x> I just installed Ubuntu 11.10 (supposedly) 64-bit. Is the i686 kernel 64-bit?
[02:36] <bitf> no
[02:37] <TheHackOps> nope
[02:37] <Captain_Crow> i pressed alt+f2 and nothing happend, the only things on the screen are "file, edit, view, go, bookmark, help" and the background
[02:37] <train9854> dim_: go to screen and youll find options to turn it of there
[02:37] <xTheGoat121x> Then why did it install the i696 kernel
[02:37] <xTheGoat121x> *686
[02:37] <TheHackOps> Captain_Crow, Type xterm
[02:37] <dimas_> train oke
[02:37] <TheHackOps> i need my screen lag problem solved plz someone its rly anoying
[02:37] <Captain_Crow> type it where?
[02:38] <dimas_> but the question was if it was a way to set it up to turn off when i am playing a video in the browser
[02:38] <TheHackOps> Alt F2 / Run Application / "xterm"
[02:38] <TheHackOps> Alt+F2 / Run Application / "xterm"
[02:39] <Captain_Crow> alt+f2 wont bring anything up
[02:39] <TheHackOps> what are you on?
[02:39] <TheHackOps> 11 or 10
[02:39] <dimas_> thanks guys...laterz;)
[02:39] <Captain_Crow> 11.10
[02:39] <TheHackOps> Captain_Crow, Laptop? or desktop
[02:39] <Captain_Crow> the most recent one
[02:39] <Captain_Crow> laptop
[02:40] <TheHackOps> ohh k
[02:40] <TheHackOps> Captain_Crow, Press Alt+fn+F2
[02:40] <Docd> hi there
[02:40] <TheHackOps> Captain_Crow, Did it come up?, if it did type gnome-terminal
[02:40] <Captain_Crow> it still didnt work
[02:40] <TheHackOps> Docd, Hiya
[02:41] <Captain_Crow> and its a normal f2 button w/o the need to use fn
[02:41] <xTheGoat121x> I downloaded the ISO for 64 bit Ubuntu but it seems to have installed a 32-bit kernel, despite the fact that I have a 64-bit processor. Any idea why this happened
[02:41] <Docd> i have a... situation
[02:41] <Docd> i just updated from 11.04 to 11.10
[02:41] <Docd> had internet on gnome2, have internet on kde
[02:41] <Docd> but no internet on gnome3
[02:42] <TheHackOps> Captain_Crow, seems It was disabled in gnome3 by default :(
[02:42] <Docd> anyone has an idea what might be going on?
[02:43] <TheHackOps> Docd, Terminal/ ifconfig
[02:43] <Docd> just io
[02:43] <TheHackOps> DAM U SCREEN LAG
[02:43] <Docd> lo
[02:43] <MechanisM> hello a few weeks ago my system startaed strange behaviour: all windows opens maximized fullscreen by default. how to solve this?
[02:43] <Captain_Crow> idk how to even get the normal desktop back, and alt+f2 isnt working
[02:44] <TheHackOps> MechanisM, do u have compiz installed
[02:44] <MechanisM> yep
[02:44] <MechanisM> unity using compiz right?
[02:44] <TheHackOps> Captain_Crow, Uhh try logging out and changing the environment to like classic
[02:44] <MechanisM> TheHackOps so i have compiz
[02:44] <TheHackOps> MechanisM, Yea. Check your settings in ccsm
[02:45] <Captain_Crow> theres no logout button
[02:45] <TheHackOps> Lol
[02:45] <TheHackOps> reboot
[02:45] <Captain_Crow> no shut down or anything
[02:45] <TheHackOps> On ur laptop
[02:45] <TheHackOps> press the off buton quickly
[02:45] <pehden> ok guys looking for a room other then #ispconfig that has support for ispconfig
[02:45] <TheHackOps> it will bring up a menu
[02:45] <MechanisM> TheHackOps which setting?
[02:45] <Captain_Crow> ok, a shut down box came up
[02:45] <TheHackOps> MechanisM, Beats me but i have seen one for that
[02:46] <TheHackOps> Captain_Crow, do some pushups and have a party ?
[02:46] <Captain_Crow> restarting
[02:46] <TheHackOps> Captain_Crow, srs though logout
[02:46] <TheHackOps> :)
[02:47] <Captain_Crow> im on the same screen, how do i log out?
[02:48] <TheHackOps> What didn't you reboot?
[02:48] <TheHackOps> Captain_Crow, Pull the freakin battery out
[02:49] <TheHackOps> Captain_Crow, very much faster
[02:49] <Captain_Crow> it crashed, and i turned the power back on and now im at a log in screen
[02:50] <TheHackOps> ok good
[02:50] <TheHackOps> Down the bottom their should be an option to change the Environment type
[02:50] <Captain_Crow> theres a gear on the middle left with 2 options, ubuntu and ubunu2d
[02:50] <TheHackOps> LOL
[02:51] <TheHackOps> Must have removed it in the new version
[02:51] <TheHackOps> Captain_Crow, Hold on googling
[02:52] <TheHackOps> Guess what sir? they removed it from 11.10 sucks for you
[02:53] <boldfilter> Cool story bro
[02:55] <Bublik2002> lol
[02:55] <Captain_Crow> so compiz doesnt work in 11.10?
[02:55] <boldfilter> 11.10 is just different, it doesn't suck parsy
[02:56] <Bublik2002> i just wish it came with gnome shell stock and unity as an option
[02:58]  * Captain_Crow wishes he had his desktop back
[02:58]  * TheHackOps wishes i had no screen lag
[02:59] <Captain_Crow> so i have to install the old version of ubuntu for it to work right?
[03:01] <TheHackOps> Captain_Crow, or you could spend alot of time googleing
[03:02] <TheHackOps> Anyone know why when i drag a window it lags like craazy
[03:02] <pp7> OMG
[03:02] <pp7> i have the same problem
[03:02] <pp7> and I hate it
[03:02] <Sash^> guys, really strange question
[03:02] <TheHackOps> It happened to me since the last update of 10.10
[03:02] <pp7> TheHackOps: hmm happened to me since 11.10 (fresh install)
[03:03] <TheHackOps> Very wierd
[03:03] <TheHackOps> im going to go back to an older kernal version see what happens
[03:03] <TheHackOps> brb
[03:03] <pp7> TheHackOps: someone on youtube suggested doing unity --replace > /dev/null &
[03:04] <gnul0ver> im using fedora and ubuntu :)
[03:04] <pp7> TheHackOps: i did that and it seems ok so far but i haven't been long enought since last time i restarted unity
[03:04] <Sash^> Random Question: If you had 10,000 people in one chatroom (hypothetically) - what would you use to moderate the flow of text (its for a uni project, and all i have come up with so far is a slider bar thats allowing a user to adjust the speed of the flow of text, but keeping it real time (just not real time!)) I consider it to be unmangiable in the sense that you could not even have 10% of those talking at any one time, what would be bes
[03:04] <pp7> TheHackOps: the lag seems to only happen to me after a while
[03:04] <gnul0ver> ubuntu server
[03:04] <Captain_Crow> is 11.10 a bad version then?
[03:05] <pp7> Captain_Crow: depends how u look at it :P
[03:05] <Sash^> anyone? ;/
[03:05] <pp7> Captain_Crow: i like it but there are just a few annoying bugs
[03:05] <Sash^> :(
[03:05] <Captain_Crow> it seems extremely buggy to me...
[03:06] <pp7> TheHackOps: if u find the solution pls pm me
[03:07] <h00k> Sash^: thisisn't the channel for that :( you can perhaps check somewhere else
[03:07] <Sash^> any idea where h00k ?
[03:07] <h00k> ubottu: tell Sash^ about alis
[03:07] <pp7> Sash^: just somewhere else
[03:08] <Sash^> cheers
[03:08] <Sash^> pp7
[03:08] <Sash^> nice
[03:08] <Stepnjump> Hi, I have a friend who has a 56k modem. I looked up on internet and couldn't find the drivers anywhere. Any suggestions? Next time I talk to him, I will get him to lsusb to see if Ubuntu detects at least the connection. His modem is a Lamaqq and model is WS-5614UVSG. Thanks
[03:08] <Quagmire> giggity
[03:10] <Captain_Crow> is there any way to restore default settings to compiz through "ubuntu 2d" mode so that i can bring the normal ubuntu desktop back up?
[03:10] <OerHeks> !nounity
[03:11] <vouth> Hi, when I try to build Mesa  from source, it fails with this error: http://pastebin.com/UFcpHx7s My config.log is: http://pastebin.com/qw7B0QaA
[03:11] <vouth> Any thoughts?
[03:12] <OerHeks> please dont SPAM in my PM <Rapeseed>
[03:12] <OerHeks> please dont SPAM in my PM <Rapeseed>
[03:12] <Captain_Crow> he's doing that the everyone
[03:12] <OerHeks> !pm |  <Rapeseed>
 Please ask your questions in the channel so that other people can help you, benefit from your questions and answers, and ensure that you're not getting bad advice. Please note that some people find it rude to be sent a PM without being asked for permission to do so first.
[03:14] <shaneo> hey guys where could if i have lm-sensors installed where on my syetem would the src be
[03:14] <TiMiDo> shaneo, locate lm-sensors
[03:15] <shaneo> which file is the src file
[03:15] <Rapeseed> Mitt Romney will change the course of American economic policy and get America back to work!  It is at once a deeply conservative return to policies that have served our nation well and a highly ambitious departure from the policies of our current leadership. In short, it is a plan to get America back to work. Vote Mitt Romney 2012! http://www.mittromney.com
[03:15] <LasNote> Is there any easy way to upgrade from 32 bit to 64 bit?
[03:16] <OerHeks> you need to download the src manually
[03:16] <OerHeks> LasNote, no, only reinstall possible if you change arch
[03:16] <LasNote> crappo
[03:16] <LasNote> thanks
[03:16] <shaneo> LasNote yeah just pop in a 64 bit and select upgrade during install
[03:16] <OerHeks> or sude-by-side
[03:16] <shaneo> worked for me
[03:17] <LasNote> is there any easy way to tell if my system can do 64 bit?
[03:17] <vouth> Hi, when I try to build Mesa  from source, it fails with this error: http://pastebin.com/UFcpHx7s My config.log from that was: http://pastebin.com/qw7B0QaA
[03:17] <shaneo> how old is it
[03:17] <LasNote> acer notebook
[03:17] <shaneo> how old LasNote
[03:17]  * vouth will change the course of Martian economic policy and get all those little green men back to bed!
[03:18] <vouth> sorry, couldn't resist :-D
[03:18] <LasNote> hrrm, 3 years I think
[03:18] <OerHeks> better ask what type processor
[03:18] <shaneo> if its it the last 4 years it will handle 64 bit
[03:18] <OerHeks> shaneo stop that nonsense
[03:18] <OerHeks> upgrade sugestion is wrong, age of laptop either.
[03:19] <TiMiDo> nice back to my ipod touch
[03:19] <TiMiDo> ;)
[03:19] <OerHeks> Lasnote what type of processor ?
[03:19] <shaneo> worked for me
[03:19] <TiMiDo> vouth, why are you running ./configure as root?
[03:19] <Jeaton> anyone here use tovid?
[03:20] <TiMiDo> to fix it download gcc sudo apt-get install gcc
[03:20] <vouth> TiMiDo: I read on a forum that it helped someone
[03:20] <TiMiDo> no man
[03:20] <TiMiDo> never run ./configure as root
[03:20] <TiMiDo> bad idea
[03:21] <TiMiDo> checking whether the C compiler works... no very clear message ;)
[03:21] <shaullx> Got a problem with ProFTPD, got no access on doing anything while on the ftp (del,chmod etc.), tried chowning the folder, didn't work, any ideas?
[03:21] <vouth> TiMiDo: Ok. Sounds good. I already have gcc as the "latest version" according to apt-get
[03:21] <TiMiDo> now vouth type ./configure as normal user
[03:21] <TiMiDo> and see if the libraries you have them in you'r system.
[03:22]  * Captain_Crow thinks the download center should leave an option to exclude incompatible programs with the version of ubuntu being used...
[03:22] <TiMiDo> Captain_Crow, and users should read before upgrading there system ;)
[03:22] <vouth> TiMiDo: same result
[03:22] <TiMiDo> and the complication you might have
[03:23] <TiMiDo> vouth, now paste the config.log
[03:23] <TiMiDo> to any where
[03:23] <Captain_Crow> but i thought the idea of getting ubuntu was because it was free and user-friendly...
[03:24] <TiMiDo> yes it is user friendly but is not very friendly in terms when you upgrade to a beta version expect all the apps to be running smoothly ;)
[03:24] <OerHeks> Captain_Crow, if you want stable versions, stick to the LTS
[03:24] <Captain_Crow> i didnt know it was a beta version
[03:24] <TiMiDo> Captain_Crow, that's why you read before any upgrade
[03:24] <TiMiDo> to calculate any libraries issues or not with aptitude or apt it self
[03:25] <Captain_Crow> idk what LTS is
[03:25] <TiMiDo> Captain_Crow, www.ubuntu.com
[03:25] <OerHeks> !lts
[03:25] <vouth> TiMiDo: http://pastebin.com/XkqnayX0
[03:26] <TiMiDo> vouth, what are you compiling by the way some mesa drivers?
[03:26] <TiMiDo> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[03:26] <TiMiDo> or https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RadeonDriver
[03:27] <Captain_Crow> what does it mean by "supported" does it stop working after 3 years or something?
[03:27] <vouth> TiMiDo: I'm using a VIA chipset that's not supported by the version of Mesa supplied with 10.10
[03:27] <OerHeks> updates stop
[03:28] <TiMiDo> no when people upgrade to testing is because they know there way back just in case something wrong happens
[03:28] <vouth> TiMiDo: Compiz etc therefore aren't working
[03:28] <boldfilter> Whatever 11.10 isnt beta
[03:28] <Docd> hi, i just updated to 11.10 and have no wireless connections
[03:28] <TiMiDo> you downgrade
[03:28] <TiMiDo> ;)
[03:28] <Docd> kernel 3.0.0-14, broadcom BCM4313
[03:28] <TiMiDo> vouth, read the links i just give you
[03:29] <Docd> any idea what can I do?
[03:29] <TiMiDo> that's why IRC is so quiet ;)
[03:29] <TiMiDo> hahahaha
[03:29] <khaime_> I am running ubuntu 10.10 on a hp compaq nc6220 who has a built-in "Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 2200BG [ Calexico2 ] Network Conneciton" ...........i read that the ipw200 driver is the driver to make this work, and that it is a part of the kernel of 10.10.........but for some reason I can not get it to work....also on this laptop , the wirelss and the bluetooth are integrated...i can turn on the bluetooth , but i can not turn on t
[03:29] <khaime_> he wireless.....when I do a "lshw -C network" it shows : "*-network DISABLED"  for the wireless....can anyone help ?   thanks in advance !
[03:29] <TiMiDo> khaime_, check dmesg
[03:29] <TiMiDo> to see if you have any driver issues
[03:30] <TiMiDo> or use fglrxinfo
[03:31] <Captain_Crow> so its best to download the older version?
[03:31] <OerHeks> khaime_, maybe this page is any help >> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WirelessTroubleShootingGuide
[03:31] <TiMiDo> if you want a stable version yes
[03:31] <vouth> TiMiDo: Well, they're both about ATI. This is a VIA KM400.
[03:31] <vouth> TiMiDo: Should I try the ATI drivers anyway?
[03:31] <rypervenche> Docd: Try installing firmware-b43-installer
[03:31] <TiMiDo> vouth, intel/amd?
[03:32] <TiMiDo> vouth, yeah give it a go
[03:32] <TiMiDo> in windows those are the drivers they use
[03:32] <TiMiDo> ATI drivers
[03:32] <vouth> TiMiDo: amd
[03:32] <TiMiDo> then yeah ;)
[03:32] <r_tarandus> There's a delay when I tap-to-click. I tap, then about a 1/2 second later, it'll click. When I use the hard button, there's no problem. Suggestions?
[03:32] <TiMiDo> check it out, and see where it goes. ;)
[03:32] <Captain_Crow> will the stable version work with wine and compiz?
[03:32] <TiMiDo> yes Captain_Crow
[03:32] <Docd> rypervenche, apt-get --reinstall returned this Unsupported device(s) found: PCI id 14e4:4727
[03:32] <TiMiDo> every release has wine and compiz enable ;)
[03:33] <boldfilter> Captain_Crow: Have you ever considered Mint Linux?
[03:33] <Captain_Crow> no, i just heared of linux a few weeks ago
[03:33] <xangua> Captain_Crow: latest stable is 11.10
[03:33] <xangua> boldfilter: can we stick to the topic¿
[03:34] <boldfilter> lolz
[03:34] <r_tarandus> RE: Other distros: It's funny because I won't switch from Ubuntu since I like the Unity interface. It's so damn beautiful, which is funny cause I hear of many who are using GNOME/others instead.
[03:34] <boldfilter> Hey, if he's complaining about the user experience??
[03:34] <TiMiDo> Captain_Crow, even better download fglrx-updates
[03:34] <khaime_> OerHeks, the "nm-tool" shows that the wireless is "eth1", it shows the driver as " ipw2200", but the "state" says it is "unavailable"
[03:35] <TiMiDo> with sudo apt-get install fglrx-updates
[03:35] <TiMiDo> and you're good
[03:35] <Docd> i guess i have to use the wl driver?
[03:35] <boldfilter> r_tarandus: congratulations
[03:35] <TiMiDo> khaime_, how are you connecting you'r wireless?
[03:35] <h00k> ubottu: offtopic | let's keep things on topic, please
[03:36] <cypher-neo> r_tarandus, I like Unity too. I've liked it since it first came out. The only reason I switched to GNOME-Shell was flexibility in customizing the user interface.
[03:36] <khaime_> TimiDo ....what do you mean ?
[03:36] <TiMiDo> khaime_, how are you scanning you're wireless connections?
[03:36] <vouth> TiMiDo: Ok, I'm downloading fglrx. It's pretty big!
[03:36] <khaime_> TimiDo, I can't even turn on the wireless to scan
[03:36] <TiMiDo> khaime_, sudo ifconfig wlan0 up
[03:37] <TiMiDo> and pray it works
[03:37] <khaime_> output was : "wlan0: ERROR while getting interface flasgs: No such device"
[03:38] <khaime_> the wireless is connect to "eth1" , should I have used that instead of "wlan0"
[03:38] <TiMiDo> now type dmesg | tail
[03:39] <TiMiDo> do you get any hints there khaime_ ?
[03:39] <khaime_> TimiDo, I got a lot of : "Skipping EDID probe due to cached edid"
[03:40] <TiMiDo> paste it here
[03:40] <TiMiDo> !paste
[03:41] <Docd> help anyone?
[03:42] <TiMiDo> OpenGL renderer string: Mesa DRI Mobile Intel® GM45 Express Chipset
[03:42] <TiMiDo> nice hahahaha
[03:42] <TiMiDo> that driver sucks
[03:43] <Khaime> http://paste.ubuntu.com/777040/
[03:43] <Khaime> TimiDo : http://paste.ubuntu.com/777040/
[03:43] <boldfilter> Idk I'll personally use unity in a virtual machine until I feel it is practical enough
[03:43] <kahlil> l
[03:44] <TiMiDo> Khaime,   echo options ipw2200 led=1 | sudo tee -a /etc/modprobe.d/ipw2200
[03:44] <jen> where can I get linux screensavers?
[03:45] <TiMiDo> jen, art.gnome.org
[03:46] <TiMiDo> and if that does not work Khaime reboot your system and come back and tell us if it worked ;)
[03:46] <qisnitweird> cant enable flash in konqueror
[03:47] <jen> TiMiDo, and this is for ubuntu and all that?
[03:47] <jen> TiMiDo, and how do I install?
[03:48] <TiMiDo> jen, it depends on the theme you want
[03:48] <TiMiDo> you have gtk themes gdm themes and much more
[03:48] <jen> i have a wolf startup screen one picked out
[03:48] <TiMiDo> oh then that's a bootsplash
[03:48] <vouth> TiMiDo: I just restarted after installing the new driver. Nothing seems to have changed.
[03:49] <jen> how shall I install that?
[03:49] <TiMiDo> jen, http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-11478.html
[03:49] <TiMiDo> very simple ;)
[03:51] <vouth> TiMiDo: Should I keep trying to build Mesa?
[03:51] <jen> ummm im a newbie ill have my friend help me with it ^^"
[03:51] <TiMiDo> vouth, yeah or apt-cache search mesa and see the drivers it has
[03:51] <jen> but thank you! :3
[03:52] <TiMiDo> jen, if you read the site i just post you. is easy as ABC!123 or my favorite one "Hello+World:"
[03:53] <vouth> TiMiDo: There's a pretty big mesa drivers there (pardon the pun), but they'll all be out of date.
[03:53] <FreezingCold>  k guys I need some huge help, I lost a school related file.  It has the word "keyboard" in it, that's all I know for sure...  How can I find it?
[03:53] <Guest84604> hello friends
[03:53] <MRomney2012> Mitt Romney will change the course of American economic policy and get America back to work!  It is at once a deeply conservative return to policies that have served our nation well and a highly ambitious departure from the policies of our current leadership. In short, it is a plan to get America back to work. Vote Mitt Romney 2012! http://www.mittromney.com
[03:53] <vouth> Oh well. I'll try tomorrow I guess. Thanks for the help!! :-)
[03:54] <Guest84604> i need help wirth ubuntu
[03:54] <CarlFK> FreezingCold: do you have a live CD?
[03:54] <FreezingCold> CarlFK: ummm, I'm running Linux now?
[03:54] <pinche> Help! I activated an Nvidia driver, rebooted and the system hangs on restart. How can I deactivate driver from cli?
[03:55] <CarlFK> FreezingCold: it is important that you do not use the file system that the deleted file was on
[03:55] <CarlFK> FreezingCold: do you have a live CD? [ ]yes [ ]no
[03:55] <FreezingCold> It wasn't deleted
[03:55] <FreezingCold> it's on my computer
[03:55] <FreezingCold> just don't know where
[03:55] <CarlFK> oh... lucky you.
[03:56] <CarlFK> FreezingCold: places, home, go, search for files
[03:57] <Clayman1000x> I am still haveing trouble, look here: http://paste.ubuntu.com/777046/
[03:57] <FreezingCold> tried ls -R *links* and didn't find anything
[03:57] <CarlFK> FreezingCold: hmm, maybe that just searches file names.. not what you need... hold some more
[03:57] <fer> please, i need help with xubuntu, with my monitor
[03:57] <FreezingCold> darnnn it, I realllly need this
[03:57] <CarlFK> FreezingCold: "keyboard" in it - is "it" the file name or contents ?
[03:59] <zivester> if i install an OS on one controller on my mobo, is there any reason i couldn't switch it to another controller later without any hiccups ?
[03:59] <MooseRFun> depends on OS
[03:59] <CarlFK> zivester: as long as the 2nd one is fairly standard (like most are) you are fine
[04:00] <CarlFK> well, assuming you install a stable OS, not one with built in hiccups :)
[04:00] <zivester> its gonna be an SSD install on the cheaper Marvell controller... gonna move it to the Intel after
[04:00] <zivester> is there anything in the install that is relevant to the controller, i guess that is my question
[04:00] <CarlFK> zivester: is the OS linux?
[04:01]  * zivester checks to see if he's in ubuntu
[04:01] <zivester> xubunto 11.10
[04:01]  * zivester can't type
[04:01] <TiMiDo> nice now my desktop looks nice
[04:01] <pinche> Help! I activated an Nvidia driver, rebooted and the system hangs on restart. How can I deactivate driver from cli?
[04:01] <MooseRFun> zivester: what kind of controller? If its SATA I think you would be ok, but if you switch to a different arch I wonder that might bork things
[04:02] <zivester> SATA III -> SATA III
[04:02] <TiMiDo> pinche, sudo rmmod nvidia
[04:02] <TiMiDo> or whatever driver you're having issues with.
[04:02] <Clayman1000x> I forgot exactly which command I used but the results showed my Netgear adapter and usb stick and my usbe keyboard mouse are there
[04:03] <pinche> TiMiDo, thanks i'll try it
[04:03] <Stepnjump> how to shutdown the computer after 5 minutes after no audio is heard by the system?
[04:03] <TiMiDo> pinche, and to load you're nvidia driver will be modprobe nvidia and then type nvidia-xconfig
[04:03] <TiMiDo> and you're good to go
[04:03] <Clayman1000x> I can't seem to get ndiswrapper to work
[04:04]  * Captain_Crow is going to try to reinstall ubuntu 11.10 one more time before trying 10.04
[04:04] <TiMiDo> Stepnjump, sudo halt
[04:04] <pinche> TiMiDo, just to confirm: sudo rmmod nvidia && modprobe nvidia && nvidia-xconfig. Correct?
[04:04] <TiMiDo> to shut it down
[04:04] <Stepnjump> thanks TiMiDo
[04:04] <TiMiDo> pinche, yeah
[04:04] <zivester> so how about migrating data from a / and /home directory on a hdd to an ssd... any issues with doing that... imsure ill have to change the fstab and install grub2 manually
[04:04] <Khaime> TimiDo...it did not work
[04:04] <Clayman1000x> I have all the drivers needed
[04:05] <boldfilter> IF I INSTALL 11.04 OVER 11.10 WILL IT RESTIRE MY DESKTOP
[04:05] <TiMiDo> Khaime, get fglrxinfo
[04:06] <MooseRFun> zivester: hrm I would think you would be ok, as long as the kernel still detects it under the same /dev entry, i.e. /dev/sda
[04:06] <TiMiDo> boldfilter, not unless you made a restore to you'r system
[04:06] <TiMiDo> and back it up
[04:06] <pinche> TiMiDo, I got FATAL: Error inseting nvidia_96 (/lib/modules/3.0.0-14-generic/updates/dkms/nvidia_96.ko): Operation not permitted
[04:07] <TiMiDo> pinche, did you reboot it?
[04:07] <Captain_Crow> ubuntu sounds buggy and complicated...
[04:07] <Stepnjump> What are the arguments TiMiDo?
[04:07] <r_tarandus> So does anyone have suggestions on how to deal with the delay when using tap-to-click on a laptop?
[04:07] <Khaime> TiMiDo do I type "get fglrxinfo" in a command windows ?
[04:07] <TiMiDo> Stepnjump, sudo reboot
[04:07] <pinche> TiMiDo, rebooting now.
[04:07] <TiMiDo> ok pinche let me know how it goes ;)
[04:07] <pinche> TiMiDo, will do. thanks for your help.
[04:07] <r_tarandus> So does anyone have suggestions on how to deal with the delay when using tap-to-click on a laptop?
[04:07] <r_tarandus> oh shoot, it did send the first time
[04:08] <zivester> aiight.. now i hope my SSD upgrade is gonna blow my raid0 raptors away
[04:08] <TiMiDo> lol what type of delay?
[04:08] <Clayman1000x> @TiMiDo
[04:09] <TiMiDo> ??
[04:10] <bullgard4> Is the group bin in Ubuntu {only} maintained for historic reasons?
[04:10] <Clayman1000x> Anybody no what I am doing wrong?
[04:11] <TiMiDo> if you don't tell us what you're doing wrong, how can you expect people to help you,
[04:11] <pinche> TiMiDo, no luck. still hanging after reboot. I see the purple screen for a moment, as soon as the ubuntu logo shows up throws me to the boot screen
[04:11] <DrPenguin> hey there.. I had a quick question about kernel modules.. Im having an issue where I need to recompile a couple kernel modules with different header options for a kernel, but when I go to insert them into my kernel, I get a complaint that the module disagrees with the module_layout symbol.. Im not quite sure why its complaining since im using the source and headers of the kernel Im running. Is there a simpler way to rebuild kernel modul
[04:11] <WhyWhyWhy> hey guys this is Mark Zuckerberg
[04:12] <TiMiDo> pinche, paste your dmesg some where
[04:12] <MooseRFun> pinche: I wound uninstall the nvidia commercial drivers
[04:12] <TiMiDo> to check it out
[04:12] <WhyWhyWhy> i wanna switch to ubuntu from facebook
[04:12] <MooseRFun> lol
[04:12] <pinche> TiMiDo, last item on boot screen is Stopping Userspace bootsplash. Everything is on [OK] but the "Stopping automatic crash report generation
[04:12] <pinche> TiMiDo, sudo dmesg?
[04:12] <CarlFK> DrPenguin: your quick question was too long for IRC - it got truncated just as it got interesting :)
[04:12] <TiMiDo> pinche, as normal user
[04:13] <DrPenguin> aw lame! let me see if I can just sum it up
[04:13] <CarlFK> DrPenguin: or complete "Is there a simpler way to rebuild kernel modul..."
[04:13] <DrPenguin> I need to recompile parport.ko with the CONFIG_PARPORT_PC_FIFO option not enabled in the module. When I do so and try to insert that module (and lp, parport_pc, and ppdev), I get complaints that it disagrees with the version of the symbol module_layout, and im not sure why
[04:14] <TiMiDo> DrPenguin, what compiler are you using?
[04:14] <TiMiDo> gcc?
[04:14] <DrPenguin> yeah, I think its 4.4.3? its should be the latest release for lucid
[04:15] <DrPenguin> I can get the modules to work if I rebuild the entire kernel and just install that, but If I extract the modules and put them into the updates directory of my orignal kernel (same version), I get that error
[04:15] <CarlFK> DrPenguin: it should work - but I just did this last night: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CarlKarsten  "I did this (hopefully it's complete)"
[04:15] <TiMiDo> lol hardcore pawn is freaking funny as hell
[04:16] <CarlFK> DrPenguin: just compile the whole thing :)
[04:16] <DrPenguin> CarlFK: thats the thing, the original kernel needs to stay intact as it is, except for these module changes
[04:16] <DrPenguin> or else I would just replace the entire kernel
[04:16] <CarlFK> DrPenguin: define "orignial" ?
[04:16] <DrPenguin> the kernel that is in my OS image
[04:17] <CarlFK> where did it come from?
[04:17] <DrPenguin> Ah.. its from the lucid repositories
[04:17] <DrPenguin> 2.6.32-33-generic
[04:17] <CarlFK> what's wrong with compiling a new one?
[04:17] <pinche> TiMiDo, any ideas how I can paste dmesg? I can't ssh or scp from cli.
[04:17] <TiMiDo> !paste
[04:18] <DrPenguin> Well, to be honest, I shouldnt have to compile a brand spanking new kernel just to change 4 modues
[04:18] <DrPenguin> I should just be able to change the modules I want and just load them into my existing kernel image
[04:18] <TiMiDo> pinche, For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.
[04:19] <CarlFK> DrPenguin: so this is an emotional thing ;)
[04:19] <DrPenguin> CarlFK: Not really.. its kind of practicallity
[04:19] <CarlFK> DrPenguin: I would at least let that start compiling while you search for a better answer
[04:19] <DrPenguin> lets say in the future I need to change more modules, am I gonna have to (yet again) rebuild the entire thing from scratch? doesnt make sense
[04:19] <DrPenguin> Oh I already have it compiled..
[04:19] <CarlFK> pinche: dmesg|xclip (which you will need to apt-get install)
[04:20] <TiMiDo> DUH
[04:20] <TiMiDo> hahaha
[04:20] <TiMiDo> ;P
[04:20] <DrPenguin> But I just thought "theres no reason this is my only solution"
[04:20] <CarlFK> DrPenguin: donn't know.  oddly enough I needed to change 1 line in a module. I am fine with doing it again the next time.
[04:20] <DrPenguin> Im just thinking since im only doing a truncated portion of the kernel build, I must be skippin a step thats required to make sure all the information in the module is identical so it can be loaded
[04:21] <DrPenguin> the only thing I can think of is maybe sinceim changing a CONFIG value in .config, the Module.symvers now doesnt match which is causing the complaint
[04:21] <bullgard4> Is the group bin in Ubuntu {only} maintained for historic reasons?
[04:22] <pinche> TiMiDo, here you go: http://paste.ubuntu.com/777062/
[04:22] <CarlFK> DrPenguin: sounds reasonable.  depends on how much time you want to invest.  how often do you plan on doing this?
[04:22] <DrPenguin> CarlFK: I dont "plan" on it ha, its just whenever it needs to be done
[04:23] <DrPenguin> This, for example, has to be done because Ubuntu is using an Experimental option (FIFO) for parallel ports which causes some ports to not work
[04:23] <DrPenguin> so it needs to be disabled and parport and associated modules need ot be rebuilt against it
[04:24] <TiMiDo> pinche, what laptop or pc are you using?
[04:24] <CarlFK> DrPenguin: you are welcome to hang out and hope someone knows.  it's fun helping people wile you wait :)
[04:24] <pinche> TiMiDo, PC I built around 3 years ago
[04:25] <TiMiDo> lOL
[04:25] <DrPenguin> CarlFK: it definitely is, I used to hang out in here, but work has kept me busy, that and now my Primary laptop is broken and geeksqud is refusing to fix it so its been a bit hectic for me :) but I thank you for your assistance
[04:25] <TiMiDo> pinche, apt-cache search nvidia
[04:26] <TiMiDo> use those drivers at own risk ;)
[04:26] <DrPenguin> I think what I may do tomorrow is get the symvers from my custom headers and retry building against that.. I forgot to change my makefile in my kern source dir so the vermagic was all wrong
[04:26] <TiMiDo> if you have a bug report it please pinche
[04:26] <pinche> TiMiDo, http://paste.ubuntu.com/777067/
[04:26] <r_tarandus> need some help in terminal. i'm in a directory but it's only listing half of the folders in it when entering "dir", meaning that i can't get into one of the folders
[04:27] <TiMiDo> pinche, read and choose you'r video card specs don't be lazy
[04:27] <SigMobile> What is an "input to command" in a cron entry?
[04:27] <pinche> TiMiDo, I'm not sure it's a bug. Install was working fine until I activated the Nvidia driver.
[04:27] <TiMiDo> then rmmod nvidia
[04:27] <DrPenguin> pinche: it may be worth it to poke through the Xorg.0.log, see if anything in there is weird
[04:28] <pinche> TiMiDo, after apt-cache search nvidia I can choose one of those and apt-get install? Is that what you mean?
[04:28]  * SigMobile slips out of sight
[04:29] <Guest77746> .
[04:29] <Guest77746> oops
[04:29] <TiMiDo> yes pinche
[04:29] <TiMiDo> with sudo apt-get install package
[04:29] <pinche> TiMiDo, thanks, could've said that before calling me lazy. :)
[04:29] <TiMiDo> pinche, i take it back then LOL
[04:29] <WhyWhyWhy> hey do u guys know a program for ubuntu simular to CPU-Z for windows? That shows info about the cpu/mobo accurate clock speed etc...
[04:30] <TiMiDo> WhyWhyWhy, gkrellm
[04:30] <TiMiDo> ;)
[04:30] <WhyWhyWhy> thanks ill check it out
[04:30] <DrPenguin> WhyWhyWhy: whats wrong with proc cpuinfo?
[04:30] <WhyWhyWhy> the what?
[04:30] <pinche> TiMiDo, I'm doing sudo apt-get install nvidia-current. I'll keep you posted.
[04:30] <DrPenguin>  /proc/cpuinfo
[04:31] <TiMiDo> but let him see the app ;)
[04:31] <DrPenguin> the /proc directory contains useful nuggets of info about your system
[04:31] <TiMiDo> of course cat /proc/cpuinfo
[04:31] <TiMiDo> ;)
[04:31] <TiMiDo> but i like gkrellm just cause of the (GUI) interface
[04:31] <WhyWhyWhy> was looking for something with a front end that i can monitor live changes
[04:31] <DrPenguin> TiMiDo: 	oh yeah i have no issues with him using the app.. I was just curious
[04:31] <DrPenguin> WhyWhyWhy: conkys nice for that
[04:32] <TiMiDo> oh LoL
[04:32] <DrPenguin> conky jus basically reads proc, you can customize the crap out of it and its just embedded into your desktop
[04:32] <DrPenguin> I have a transparent conky on my Arch Bang OS
[04:32] <TiMiDo> arch is nice
[04:32] <TiMiDo> ;P
[04:32] <TiMiDo> <3 arch
[04:32] <TiMiDo> pacman -Syy
[04:32] <pinche> TiMiDo, after sudo apt-get install nvidia-current that will activate it as well? Just checking.
[04:33] <DrPenguin> Yeah, I need to do some kernel customization to it when I get it back, get rid of useless modules to sthrink it and maybe get some better boot times
[04:33] <DrPenguin> my laptop that is
[04:33] <TiMiDo> pinche, sudo apt-get install nvidia-xconfig
[04:33] <Guest77746> err freenode staff banned me from all relevant channels. i copied a snippet of hot damn C code from C for dummies. http://codepad.org/VdIPNwp7 ,,, it compiles on codepad, but why wont it compile on my 1337 backtrack? i have gcc; ive spent 10 minutes of my life tryin to figure it out too!!! PSORT.C: In function ‘int main()’:
[04:33] <Guest77746> PSORT.C:16: warning: deprecated conversion from string constant to ‘char*’
[04:33] <Guest77746> PSORT.C:16: warning: deprecated conversion from string constant to ‘char*’
[04:33] <Guest77746> PSORT.C:16: warning: deprecated conversion from string constant to ‘char*’
[04:33] <FloodBot1> Guest77746: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:33] <TiMiDo> and run sudo nvidia-xconfig as root
[04:33] <TiMiDo> and then restart X
[04:33] <bucky> DrPenguin, you can make that one module
[04:33] <DrPenguin> Guest77190: the problem is obvious
[04:33] <DrPenguin> bucky: do whut nao
[04:34] <pinche> TiMiDo, ok. what's the command to restart X?
[04:34] <Guest77746> startx?
[04:34] <Guest77746> lol
[04:34] <Guest77746> idunno
[04:34] <DrPenguin> if X is already running, pkill X
[04:34] <DrPenguin> else, a striaght startx will do
[04:34] <Guest77746> whats the obvious problem?
[04:34] <DrPenguin> Guest77190: your doing something thats deprecated?
[04:34] <TiMiDo> pinche, service gdm restart
[04:34] <pinche> DrPenguin, thanks
[04:34] <bucky> DrPenguin, make CONFIG_PARPORT=m CONFIG_PARPORT_PC=m CONFIG_PARPORT_SERIAL=mCONFIG_PARPORT_PC_FIFO=n M=<relative path to>/parport Makefile in source
[04:34] <bullgard4> Is the group bin in Ubuntu {only} maintained for historic reasons?
[04:35] <DrPenguin> bucky: That wont do
[04:35] <DrPenguin> bucky: lp and ppdev and parport_pc need to also be recompiled
[04:35] <Guest77746> you disapprove?
[04:35] <DrPenguin> and when I do that, I get multiple issues with lp and ppdev disagreeing with symbol versions from parport
[04:35] <Guest77746> past?
[04:36] <Guest77746> ok ill look
[04:37] <WhyWhyWhy> hmm that gkrellm isnt showing the proper cpu speed, its showing the default speed
[04:37] <bucky> DrPenguin, you have obviously built a kernel before?
[04:37] <DrPenguin> bucky: no I havent, but it wasnt that hard to figure out how to do it
[04:38] <DrPenguin> bucky: well, I built my first one last night.. but meh
[04:38] <DrPenguin> WhyWhyWhy: whats the "proper" speed?
[04:38] <TiMiDo> nice I'm compiling my Xorg drivers
[04:38] <TiMiDo> the proper way
[04:38] <WhyWhyWhy> its what my clock is set to 4.2ghz the default is 3.4
[04:38] <DrPenguin> OH MAN
[04:38] <WhyWhyWhy> the /proc file shows the right speed though
[04:39] <DrPenguin> WhyWhyWhy: can you check proc/cpuinfo and tell us the govenor on your cpu?
[04:39] <DrPenguin> s/proc/\/proc/
[04:39] <black> k yekoms
[04:39] <WhyWhyWhy> i dont see anything there saying govenor
[04:39] <r_tarandus> how do i open a file with permissions to change it? trying to configure xorg...
[04:40] <DrPenguin> r_tarandus: sudo command
[04:40] <Guest77746> -Wno-write-strings
[04:40] <bucky> DrPenguin, here's one of many howto on making a deb http://tinyurl.com/2z33vs
[04:40] <r_tarandus> DrPenguin: it says the file doesn't exist. but it does.
[04:40] <Guest77746> it still doesnt work!
[04:40] <DrPenguin> generally, users cant write to xorg.conf
[04:40] <yekoms> im seeming to have a issue, when i boot the CD. the picture is distorted. im trying on a HP notebook.
[04:40] <WhyWhyWhy> actually its not really showing the right speed its showing 4.1ghz thats what windows reports as well in its system properties but programs like CPU-Z and other show the correct speed
[04:40] <DrPenguin> r_tarandus: are you looking in /etc/X11?
[04:40] <yekoms> any thoughts?
[04:40] <r_tarandus> DrPenguin: yes
[04:40] <r_tarandus> DrPenguin: no, hold on
[04:40] <DrPenguin> yekoms: Ive noticed that on newer HP laptops, X doesnt boot right, you may need to use the alternative version
[04:41] <yekoms> i cant hit f4?
[04:41] <DrPenguin> Im curious if the live disc is using some lame framebuffer..
[04:41] <TiMiDo> why not?
[04:41] <TiMiDo> yekoms, ctrl alt + f3
[04:41] <TiMiDo> yekoms, ctrl alt + f4
[04:41] <yekoms> and that will allow safe video mode?
[04:41] <DrPenguin> those are just VT switchings
[04:41] <yekoms> Safe Graphics Mode *
[04:42] <DrPenguin> unless your asking about my method, its (what I hink is) an ncurses style installer
[04:42] <r_tarandus> I'm trying to open a file in /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d/
[04:42] <Tech-1> f6 i thin gives more options
[04:42] <Tech-1> think
[04:42] <DrPenguin> r_tarandus: what file?
[04:42] <TiMiDo> r_tarandus, open it up with nano
[04:42] <yekoms> ill try ctrl+alt+f4 and f6
[04:42] <r_tarandus> 51-synaptics-quirks.conf
[04:43] <yekoms> after win7 finishes
[04:43] <DrPenguin> eww nano
[04:43] <yekoms> nano<3
[04:43] <DrPenguin> vim!
[04:43] <yekoms> ew
[04:43] <DrPenguin> ew your ace
[04:43] <DrPenguin> s/ace/face/
[04:43] <yekoms> gedit is better then vim :P
[04:43]  * Nano facepalms and then changes nick.
[04:43] <DrPenguin> rofl
[04:43] <Nano> :P
[04:43] <yekoms> LOL
[04:43] <r_tarandus> DrPenguin: so I'm trying to open 51-synaptics-quirks.conf with the permission to change it. It opens fine, just can't save my changes.
[04:44] <DrPenguin> r_tarandus: then use sudo when your opening it
[04:44] <r_tarandus> DrPenguin: it says the file doesn't exist
[04:44] <DrPenguin> like I said, user doesnt have permissions to edit those files by default
[04:44] <yekoms> and another thing. im having distorted pixels at the bottom of my monitor on this computer
[04:44] <TiMiDo> LOL
[04:44] <yekoms> it covers half of my taskbar...
[04:44] <yekoms> i dont know if its my tv or ubuntu10.04
[04:44] <DrPenguin> r_tarandus: sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.d/51-synaptics-quirks.conf says no file or dir?
[04:45] <r_tarandus> DrPenguin: I understand that. But Terminal's being weird. When I'm in the /usr/share/ directory, it doesn't show any folders past "im-switch".
[04:45] <DrPenguin> yekoms: do you see these pixels anywhere else?
[04:45] <c_smith> yekoms, it could also be your Graphics card. though tbh I have no clue how to check if it is actually that.
[04:45] <r_tarandus> DrPenguin: will try with "nano", that's different.
[04:45] <yekoms> they are just at the bottom of my screen
[04:45] <yekoms> ill take a snapshot if itll help
[04:45] <DrPenguin> yekoms: I didnt phrase my question right
[04:45] <DrPenguin> anywhere else BESIDES ubuntu, like just watching it, or another OS, etc etc
[04:46] <yekoms> uhm, call of duty yeah
[04:46] <yekoms> but not when i watch tv
[04:46] <DrPenguin> then its not Ubuntu
[04:46] <alejandro> how do i see how much space i have left on my hard drive?
[04:46] <yekoms> df -h
[04:47] <c_smith> yekoms, then it's either hardware in the tower or the Software in Ubuntu
[04:47] <r_tarandus> DrPenguin: how to save in nano?
[04:47] <dannel> ctrl+o
[04:47] <DrPenguin> r_tarandus: ^X (ctrl X)
[04:47] <yekoms> hm
[04:47] <yekoms> its not really that bothersome tbh
[04:47] <pinche> TiMiDo, Still no GUI. I did sudo apt-get install nvidia-current then rebooted. Just a reminder. This is a brand new Ubuntu 11.10 installation that was working fine until I activated a Nvidia driver, rebooted, and now it hangs on reboot.
[04:47] <TiMiDo> nice I'm installing catalyst 11.12 driver <3
[04:47] <r_tarandus> DrPenguin: thank you.
[04:47] <c_smith> yekoms, and in this case, it may very well be your graphics chip
[04:47] <DrPenguin> Catalyst?
[04:47] <yekoms> on xbox and pc?
[04:47] <unreal-dude> ^O if you only want to save, ^X if you wish to quit (you get option to save)
[04:47] <DrPenguin> but.. isnt your chip nvidia? or am I mixing you up with pinche
[04:48] <TiMiDo> pinche, paste out you'r xorg error
[04:48] <DrPenguin> either way catalyst sucks
[04:48] <TiMiDo> I'm using catalyst for my self
[04:48] <c_smith> yekoms, the graphics chip is only in the tower,
[04:48] <c_smith> for Ubuntu anyway.
[04:48] <King_Ozzy> I concur DrPenguin
[04:48] <c_smith> King_Ozzy, ditto
[04:48] <pinche> TiMiDo,how do I get the xorg error? Treat me like a noob
[04:48] <DrPenguin> AMD is God awful when it comes to drivers, altho Linux drivers have always sucked
[04:48] <DrPenguin> pinche: /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[04:49] <pinche> DrPneguin, yes I have an Nvidia video card
[04:49] <DrPenguin> Linux Drivers for ATI cards rather ***
[04:49] <mebigfatguy> pinche: did you try setting nomodeset by editing the entry in grub?
[04:50] <Amdpc> Hi...When I start my laptop ,the grub menu is seen , after entering the first option , the display goes off..I have to turn off the laptop using power button..it happens many times..and after around 6-8 times it starts..Please help me to avoid this ! (Laptop is dell vostro 1400)
[04:50] <pinche> TiMiDo, http://paste.ubuntu.com/777075
[04:50] <DrPenguin> Amdpc: do you have the option for the recovery kernel boot option?
[04:50] <unreal-dude> mebigfatguy how you would do such with grub2?
[04:51] <unreal-dude> * just curious rather
[04:51] <DrPenguin> pinche: somethins wrong with your xorg.conf.. did you use nvidia-xconfig?
 I have to look for that....I think its there..should I select that ?
[04:51] <mebigfatguy> type E on the boot option to edit, and add nomodeset , then ctrl-x i think
[04:51] <DrPenguin> Amdpc: yeah, its gona boot and print out messages so (hopefully) we can see whats happening.. its possible your kernel panicing
[04:52] <Amdpc> DrPenguin : May I PM you ?
[04:52] <DrPenguin> Amdpc: k
[04:53] <pinche> TiMiDo, Ah, no. You had said apt-get install nvidia-xconfig and that of course didn't do anything. Just did it and nothing. want the xorg error again?
[04:53] <DrPenguin> pinche: can you pastebin your xorg.conf?
[04:54] <r_tarandus> ugh
[04:54] <r_tarandus> There's a delay when I tap-to-click using my touchpad. There's no delay when using the hardware button. What gives?!?!
[04:54] <almoxarife> !info nvidia-current
[04:54] <r_tarandus> Been trying to figure this out for weeks
[04:55] <DrPenguin> r_tarandus: the first thing i can think of is that maybe its trying to figure out whether your moving the mouse or tapping..? have ou looked in the synaptics touch pad gui manager thingy
[04:56] <TiMiDo> damn 3d
[04:56] <dr_willis_> we need 5d :-)
[04:57] <TiMiDo> yeah and 6d also
[04:57] <TiMiDo> jaja
[04:57] <DrPenguin> 3D is overrated
[04:57] <TiMiDo> yeah it is
[04:57] <r_tarandus> DrPenguin: The only option is that you can enable/disable "tap-to-click"
[04:57] <TiMiDo> r_tarandus: you need to enable it ;)
[04:57] <DrPenguin> it is enable
[04:57] <DrPenguin> d
[04:58] <DrPenguin> he just doesnt like the delay when he does a tap
[04:58] <TiMiDo> gnome?
[04:58] <TiMiDo> xfce4?
[04:58] <DrPenguin> Openbox!
[04:58] <MooseRFun> M-theory requires spacetime to have 11D
[04:58] <TiMiDo> oh ic
[04:58] <DrPenguin> oh I dunno what hes using
[04:58] <almoxarife> r_tarandus: what version of ubuntu?
[04:58] <r_tarandus> it's been reported: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-input-synaptics/+bug/449208. the only solution on there was to edit the default settings in X. i don't know what that means.
[04:58] <r_tarandus> 11.10/unity
[04:59] <TiMiDo> lol
[04:59] <TiMiDo> brb
[04:59] <TiMiDo> rebooting time
[04:59] <acu> I wonder if GNOME3 ATI driver problem is solved - the Menu and Dialog BOxes are Skewed /Tilted Mingled - http://ati.cchtml.com/show_bug.cgi?id=99  can anyone tell me what is the problem 0 or whether is solved ?
[04:59] <almoxarife> r_tarandus: if that is so, you have many more options on the touchpad setup screen
[05:00] <DrPenguin> r_tarandus: synclient fasttaps=1 seems to be your soution
[05:01] <DrPenguin> or, you could edit in the 51-synaptics blah or add a xorg.conf and put an input device section in it
[05:01] <pinche> DrPenguin, where is xorg.conf? Noob here.
[05:01] <DrPenguin> pinche: /etc/X11
[05:01] <r_tarandus> DrPenguin: seriously, thanks for your suggestions and time thus far. fasttaps improves the situation (decreases the delay) but doesn't solve it. the hardware button is still faster. I was trying to edit 51-synaptics by adding a bunch of stuff, but I don't know what is the "right" thing to add.
[05:02] <DrPenguin> r_tarandus: I think it makes sense that the hard button is faster
[05:02] <somsip> pinche: there is no xorg.conf as standard, but it lives where DrPenguin says if you need one
[05:02] <DrPenguin> because the touch pad does multiple things
[05:02] <pinche> DrPenguin, here u go: http://paste.ubuntu.com/777080/
[05:02] <DrPenguin> somsip: he has one though, he used nvidia-xconfig
[05:02] <somsip> DrPenguin: fair enough
[05:03] <pinche> DrPenguin, last thing I did was "sudo apt-get install nvidia-current" then reboot, then "sudo nvidia-xconfig"
[05:03] <r_tarandus> DrPenguin: I do understand the reasoning behind creating a software delay. But when using other OSs, the delay isn't there and now it's a nuisance instead of a help. So even though I "get it", what's frustrating is that there isn't a way to work around it/get rid of it. An easy one, at least.
[05:03] <macguges> Please help, I made a bad mistake just now. I've just overwritten an ntfs partition I had intended to backup, running ntfsclone --overwrite with the devices backwards.
[05:03] <macguges> Can I recover any of the data?
[05:04] <DrPenguin> r_tarandus: yeah, something like this its probably programmed into the X Server
[05:04] <DrPenguin> macguges: if your lucky.. maybe testdisk can do it
[05:04] <DrPenguin> pinche: hmm.. can you do lspci | grep VGA and give me the PCI id of your card? its gonna be a set of 3 numbers separated by :'s on the left
[05:05] <macguges> DrPenguin: thanks, I'll look into that!
[05:06] <r_tarandus> DrPenguin: thanks. guess I'll just have to deal with the delay. this some booshit! but it's all good. unity is still damn nice.
[05:06] <DrPenguin> r_tarandus: *stares at you* you "like" unity?
[05:06] <pinche> DrPenguin, the output is: 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation G80 [Quadro FX 4600] (reva2)
[05:06] <skegeek> How long has Unity been Ubuntu's default desktop??
[05:06] <DrPenguin> pinche: hmm ok.. so it is configuring the right card..
[05:06] <DrPenguin> skegeek: since 10.10 I think? or was it 11.04..
[05:06] <somsip> skegeek: since 11.04
[05:06] <edbian> How can I change the mouse cursor?  (ubuntu 11.10)
[05:07] <r_tarandus> DrPenguin: I know, I know. My only gripe with Unity is that you can't move the stupid side-panel to the bottom in 2D.
[05:07] <skegeek> Appears pretty sucky to me.
[05:07] <edbian> The internet / google is showing me all sorts of non-sense such as downloading ubuntu-tweak and editing some config files
[05:07] <pinche> DrPenguin, maybe its just a matter of trying other drivers? instead of sudo apt-get install nvidia-current I can install nvidia-173 or nvidia-173-dev until I hit the correct one?
[05:08] <DrPenguin> pinche: I dont think its that.. for the sake of maybe the package didnt play nice, update your kernel modules with a depmod -a and reboot
[05:08] <DrPenguin> what we could also do too is just go to nvidias site and use the upstream driver
[05:08] <iToast> Can i ask a question
[05:08] <pinche> DrPenguin, ok, doing sudo depmod
[05:08] <DrPenguin> pinche: -a! dont forget the -a!
[05:08] <iToast> Its a bit off topic but its running on ubuntu server...
[05:08] <pinche> DrPenguin, ok, doing sudo depmod -a
[05:09] <pinche> DrPenguin, rebooting...
[05:10] <edbian> oh, I need gnome-tweak-tool
[05:10] <edbian> :P
[05:10] <TiMiDo> yeah
[05:10] <TiMiDo> ;)
[05:10] <pinche> DrPenguin, no luck. back on reboot screen. last item says "Starting bluetooth." To get to command line I do Ctrl-Alt-F1
[05:11] <DrPenguin> pinche: the Xorg log might be the same…
[05:11] <DrPenguin> this is weird.. ive never had issue with nvidia and xorg
[05:11] <TiMiDo> pinche, sudo adduser username video group helps a lot
[05:11] <pinche> DrPenguin, how about setting nomodeset by editing the entry in grub as someone suggested before?
[05:12] <DrPenguin> TiMiDo: he shouldnt need that
[05:12] <TiMiDo> just in case
[05:12] <DrPenguin> his system should just work.. its ubuntu.. yeah true
[05:12] <DrPenguin> pinche: you could try that but I dont think thats gonna help
[05:12] <pinche> DrPenguin, remember it DID work
[05:12] <TiMiDo> pinche, which drivers are you using?
[05:13] <TiMiDo> Building only for 3.0.0-14-generic nice
[05:13] <pinche> TiMiDo, it was the second on the list. but at this point, after all the apt-get installs ad nvidia-xconfigs we've done who knows
[05:13] <DrPenguin> pinche: did X Server ever work?
[05:13] <TiMiDo> Nice bug
[05:13] <pinche> DrPenguin, Intially, before I activated a driver, yes it worked
[05:13] <TiMiDo> Warning: No support for locale: en_US.utf8
[05:14] <DrPenguin> Ok.. thts a good sign then
[05:14] <almoxarife> DrPenguin: what you don't take into account is how some go all script-kiddie on a basic system, forget what and where they left every kind of conf change they saw on the internet, then they seek help, worse part, they never tell you what they did.
[05:14] <pinche> DrPenguin, I installed Ubuntu couple of hours ago. Ran it fine. Was on Unity. Clicked on the drivers icon, selected the second from the list, I think version 96, restarted, and got stuck on boot.
[05:15] <DrPenguin> so.. most likely before you were probably using vesa or nouveau
[05:15] <pinche> DrPenguin, maybe. let's do that. let's install nouveau right now. walk me through it?
[05:16] <DrPenguin> well we can do one better.. lets try this
[05:16] <DrPenguin> is X currently running and just in a hung state?
[05:16] <almoxarife> pinche: you should only have one driver, and from what you described it should be 'nvidia-current' nothing else! for graphics anyway
[05:16] <pinche> DrPenguin, how do I find out>
[05:16] <DrPenguin> almoxarife: Ubuntu comes with a boat load of drivers by default
[05:16] <DrPenguin> pinche: ps -fade | grep X should output some line with X's process ID n crud
[05:17] <pinche> DrPenguin, yest it does
[05:17] <DrPenguin> almoxarife: I always keep my main driver + vesa installed in my system, incase I do an update on my main driver and something happens, I can just load vesa to fix
[05:17] <DrPenguin> pinche: ok, get its PID and kill it with kill PID
[05:18] <pinche> DrPenguin, PID is the first or second number?
[05:18] <DrPenguin> check the column but it hsould be the first
[05:18] <DrPenguin> ppid should be the second.. so the fist number should be big and the second Id imagine is 1
[05:18] <pinche> DrPenguin, ok killed
[05:18] <DrPenguin> now, run Xorg -configure
[05:19] <DrPenguin> may have to sudo that
[05:19] <pinche> DrPenguin,Configuration failed
[05:19] <DrPenguin> pinche: paste the log for me
[05:20] <yekoms> using 11.10 i can still use 10.04 repos right?
[05:20] <DrPenguin> altho I think I know why it failed.. these proprietary drivers suck so much
[05:20] <somsip> yekoms: wrong
[05:20] <almoxarife> yekoms: no
[05:20] <yekoms> damn
[05:20] <yekoms> 11.10 dont have prisim
[05:21] <pinche> DrPenguin, can't use pastebininit with it
[05:21] <DrPenguin> ?
[05:21] <yekoms> when should i hit ctrlaltf4 for save video?
[05:21] <pinche> DrPenguin, sudo Xorg -configure | pastebininit?
[05:21] <DrPenguin> pinche: what is pastebininit?
[05:21] <OerHeks> yekoms, prism is no longer in mozilla labs > https://wiki.mozilla.org/Prism
[05:22] <yekoms> ill find the source and install from tar\
[05:22] <pinche> DrPenguin, pastebinit: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Pastebinit
[05:22] <DrPenguin> pinche: the log could be printing to stderr and not stdout
[05:23] <DrPenguin> do Xorg -configure &> xorg.log; cat xorg.log | pastebininit
[05:23] <pinche> DrPenguin, ok, hang on
[05:23] <DrPenguin> that actually came up at work today.. there should be some way to distinguish stdout from stderr text, they look identical in console
[05:24] <pinche> DrPenguin, http://paste.ubuntu.com/777088
[05:24] <DrPenguin> pinche: what.. the.. hell?
[05:24] <nofx> bot
[05:24] <pinche> DrPenguin, reinstall?
[05:24] <nofx> boot
[05:24] <DrPenguin> it tried to load vmware by defaullt..? that makes no sense
[05:25] <pinche> DrPenguin, so the video's not the issue?
[05:25] <DrPenguin> even worse, it only attempted 1 module and not 3.. usually autoconfig pulls down the best known followed by fbdev and vesa
[05:25] <DrPenguin> remove the vmware driver
[05:26] <pinche> DrPenguin, I had installed Virtualbox.... ?
[05:26] <DrPenguin> Virtual Box is not VMWare
[05:27] <pinche> DrPenguin, right, thus my confusion
[05:27] <DrPenguin> even so, why would the host need the X Server driver for virtual box
[05:27] <pinche> DrPenguin, right
[05:27] <pinche> DrPenguin, so apt-get uninstall vmware?
[05:27] <DrPenguin> thats not the package
[05:27] <DrPenguin> dpkg -l | grep vmware
[05:27] <DrPenguin> its probably xserver-xorg-video-vmware
[05:28] <DrPenguin> but before that.. I have to ask.. this isnt a VM right? this is a native image?
[05:28] <pinche> DrPenguin, it is
[05:28] <DrPenguin> it is what
[05:29] <pinche> DrPenguin, it is xserver-xorg-video-vmware like u said
[05:29] <DrPenguin> right.. but.. is your ubuntu install a VM or native install
[05:29] <pinche> DrPenguin, native. from a DVD.
[05:29] <DrPenguin> ok good..
[05:29] <pinche> DrPenguin, I have no idea what vmware is doing there
[05:30] <DrPenguin> it could just be standard in the Ubuntu image.. I dunno I dont useu buntu anymore
[05:30] <pinche> DrPenguin, so apt-get uninstall xserver-xorg-video-vmware?
[05:30] <DrPenguin> remove
[05:30] <DrPenguin> or.. is it uninstall… why am I spacing on my apt syntax
[05:30] <pinche> DrPenguin, right. removing....
[05:31] <pinche> DrPenguin, ok, removed. now what.
[05:31] <DrPenguin> ok, so lets make sure your kernels still happy, sudo depmod -a
[05:31] <pinche> DrPenguin, ok, done. now what.
[05:31] <DrPenguin> now retry the xorg configure bs and get me the new log
[05:32] <Captain_Crow> i just did a fresh install of ubuntu 11.10 and updates, is there anything else I need to do before trying to run the cube or other compiz effects? (last few attempts of running the cube caused ubuntu to completely crash every time i rebooted the pc, which is why i had to reinstall)
[05:32] <pinche> DrPenguin, what are the xorg configure commands?
[05:32] <pinche> DrPenguin, just to make sure
[05:33] <DrPenguin> Xorg - configure &> xorg.log; cat xorg.log | pastebininit
[05:34] <DrPenguin> eh.. sudo that
[05:34] <Captain_Crow> should I just run compiz, or is there some prerequisite to keeping ubuntu from crashing and becoming corrupted?
[05:34] <DrPenguin> Captain_Crow: ubuntu has compiz in it by default now
[05:35] <pinche> DrPenguin, here u go: http://paste.ubuntu.com/777094/
[05:35] <DrPenguin> pinche: … there is something wrong with your system
[05:36] <DrPenguin> can you pastebin that new xorg file in your homedir?
[05:36] <pinche> DrPenguin, ok, fresh reinstall then.
[05:36] <werty9d> anybody knows a way to install gcc or qemu to android
[05:37] <werty9d> ?
[05:37] <DrPenguin> werty9d: install gcc or qemu to android..? can you explain what your asking
[05:37] <pinche> DrPenguin, thanks for all your help! I'll just reinstall.
[05:37] <DrPenguin> pinche: ok, sorry man
[05:37] <werty9d> will ubuntu release a wersion thats suitable for android devices ?
[05:38] <DrPenguin> werty9d: .. what? dude your not being clear
[05:38] <DrPenguin> what are you trying to do
[05:38] <werty9d> i didnt like android
[05:38] <werty9d> google did placed too many bugs on them
[05:39] <DrPenguin> eh, I would disagree there… im running an ICS port on my phone and its fine.. but your not answering my question
[05:40] <werty9d> so it could be better to have a standard linux on hand :)
[05:40] <nanotube> is it just me, or is unity buggy when it comes to multiple virtual desktops (workspaces) ?
[05:40] <DrPenguin> werty9d: last chance. WHAT are you trying to do
[05:40] <werty9d> android doesnt look like a linux at all :)
[05:40] <DrPenguin> OK im done
[05:41] <Tech-1> Captain_Crow:  have you installed the graphics drivers ?
[05:42] <WhyWhyWhy> hey werty9d you can already use ubuntu on android devices
[05:42] <DrPenguin> was THAT what he was asking? sheesh
[05:42] <WhyWhyWhy> but i doubt they will release an officially supported version
[05:42] <DrPenguin> Android is gonna run better than Ubuntu on the devices though
[05:42] <WhyWhyWhy> it does run a bit slow yea
[05:43] <WhyWhyWhy> i use it mostly for dcc transfers cant find an android app for that
[05:44] <werty9d> hm thanks im trying to install that
[05:44] <werty9d> but it requires recompiling the kernel
[05:44] <DrPenguin> werty9d: i think thats out of scope for this IRC.. look at xda forums
[05:45] <WhyWhyWhy> theres a pre-made image you can use yea look around xda its there
[05:45] <werty9d> not for any device
[05:46] <werty9d> i hawe galaxy pro which is not much popular on that place imao
[05:46] <WhyWhyWhy> oh heheh i have the galaxy s2
[05:47] <ubuntusam> hi everyone
[05:48] <derphead> Hi. So, I've spent a few hours installing Kubuntu, and I think I've broken it already. :-/
[05:48] <werty9d> so i have to do the work
[05:48] <derphead> I was trying to get a wireless USB dongle to work that wasn't plugged in during installation. It wouldn't detect any networks so I figured I'd reboot.
[05:48] <derphead> But it wouldn't shutdown/reboot. It got stuck on a black screen (with mouse cursor). So I reset the machine. And now it won't log in. It tries to but logs out again a second later.
[05:48] <werty9d> that was the cheapest device that supports linux
[05:48] <derphead> halp?
[05:49] <DrPenguin> derphead: can you boot the system in recovery (using the recovery kernel) and seee what happens?
[05:49] <Captain_Crow> how do i bring up compiz on 11.10, just type ccsm into the terminal?
[05:49] <derphead> DrPenguin: why would it be a kernel issue? The normal graphical login screen appears and works and is fully pretty.
[05:50] <DrPenguin> oh I think I misread what happened..
[05:50] <DrPenguin> hmm
[05:50] <Metroshica> I'm trying to find out how much memory I'm using now. When I log in, my MOTD says I'm only using about 30%. However, when I run free -m, it says I have 1729 used out of 1750, with only 21 mbs free. However, it says 875 mbs is cached. How much memory is in use then, should I be worried that I'm almsot running out of memory?
[05:50] <derphead> DrPenguin: ok
[05:50] <DrPenguin> derphead: can you VT switch and log in at console?
[05:50] <Captain_Crow> do i type ccsm into the terminal, UXTerm, or XTerm?
[05:51] <derphead> DrPenguin: how?
[05:51] <DrPenguin> derphead: by.. vt switching? like CTRL ALT F2?
[05:52] <derphead> DrPenguin: ok.. linux noob here.... okay yes, now logged into a terminal.
[05:52] <derphead> DrPenguin: how do I fix KDE?
[05:52] <DrPenguin> derphead: well, you dont fix anything until you know whats broken
[05:53] <DrPenguin> try……. sudo service kdm restart
[05:53] <Metroshica> I'm trying to find out how much memory I'm using now. When I log in, my MOTD says I'm only using about 30%. When I run free -m, it says I have 1729 used out of 1750, with only 21 mbs free. However, it says 875 mbs is cached. How much memory is in use then, should I be worried that I'm almsot running out of memory?
[05:54] <ubuntusam> anyone running it on a mac as a vm?
[05:54] <derphead> DrPenguin: That put me back to the log in screen, but when I try to log in it still throws me straight out again.
[05:54] <DrPenguin> ubuntusam: I have in the past
[05:54] <ubuntusam> any issues?
[05:54]  * Captain_Crow is confused with ubuntu 11.10
[05:54] <DrPenguin> derphead: ok thats weird.. can you vt switch again, login, and go to /var/log?
[05:54] <DrPenguin> ubuntusam: not really
[05:54] <pnorman> Metroshica: What is going on is that 30% is used by programs and the remainder of the memory is being used to cache data on disk
[05:55] <Captain_Crow> how do i properly open the compiz settings manager in ubuntu 11.10?
[05:55] <ubuntusam> me either...so far.
[05:55] <DrPenguin> Captain_Crow: ccsm &?
[05:55] <Metroshica> pnorman: so I'm not running out of memory and I"m only using 30%?
[05:55] <tensorpudding> Metroshica, http://www.linuxatemyram.com/
[05:55] <tensorpudding> is helpful
[05:55] <derphead> DrPenguin: what log should I look at here?
[05:56] <Captain_Crow> DrPenguin, & what?
[05:56] <DrPenguin> Captain_Crow: its just ccsm &
[05:56] <DrPenguin> the & symbol means to run the process in the background
[05:56] <Metroshica> tensorpudding, haha, that's a great site, thanks
[05:56] <Captain_Crow> i type in "ccsm &"?
[05:56] <TiMiDo> no just ccsm
[05:56] <TiMiDo> ;)
[05:57] <DrPenguin> derphead: can you pastebin the output of ls, I need to see whats in there
[05:57] <Captain_Crow> i tried just ccsm, it says not installed, but i installed all the updates
[05:57] <TiMiDo> Captain_Crow, which release?
[05:57] <Captain_Crow> 11.10
[05:57] <DrPenguin> Captain_Crow: just because you istalled the updates it doesnt mean your gonna have a package, jus install the settings mgr.. but it should be in there
[05:57] <TiMiDo> oh
[05:57] <TiMiDo> oneiric
[05:57] <TiMiDo> ;)
[05:58] <TiMiDo> Captain_Crow, install emerald
[05:58] <Captain_Crow> ok
[05:58] <TiMiDo> that will fix you'r window issue or go with gtk --decorador
[05:59] <derphead> DrPenguin: http://i.imgur.com/wbDnQ.png
[06:00] <DrPenguin> derphead: pastebin the kdm.log please
[06:00] <Captain_Crow> TiMiDo, i just reinstalled ubuntu, I dont have a window issue(yet), i haven't installed any additional packages yet aside from update
[06:00] <kaushal> Hi
[06:00] <TiMiDo> then sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[06:00] <TiMiDo> to upgrade you'r whole system
[06:00] <TiMiDo> if you like
[06:01] <kaushal> is there a way to protect data on a laptop or desktop running Ubuntu Linux desktop if its lost and falls in bad hands
[06:01] <kaushal> ?
[06:01] <DrPenguin> kaushal: you can encrypt it
[06:01] <Captain_Crow> i ran the full update thing already, i just havent messed with compiz yet cause idk how to do it properly w/o messing up the OS
[06:01] <kaushal> I mean elegant and efficient way to do it ?
[06:01] <DrPenguin> kaushal: … encrypt it
[06:01] <yekoms> i cant connect to efnet using ipv6
[06:02] <derphead> DrPenguin: there's a line near the end "kdeinit4: Communication error with launcher. Exiting!".. could that be it?
[06:02] <yekoms> anyone else have these issues?
[06:02] <kaushal> Can i push it from a centralized location ?
[06:02] <DrPenguin> derphead: moooooost likely
[06:02] <derphead> DrPenguin: then it says "D-Bus call failed: 'Not connected to D-Bus server'"
[06:02] <kaushal> DrPenguin: Any wiki ?
[06:02] <DrPenguin> kaushal: google it? theres probably something on the ubu wiki
[06:02] <kaushal> ok
[06:02] <derphead> DrPenguine: come to think of it I think I uninstalled some sort of d-bus thingie
[06:02] <DrPenguin> derphead: oh God!
[06:02] <DrPenguin> dude! you need dbus
[06:03] <derphead> DrPenguin: I thought it was a printer driver :-/
[06:03] <DrPenguin> *face palm* no way!
[06:03] <almoxarife> derphead: what else did you remove?
[06:03] <dyess002> Metroshica,   free -m shows me as having 5841 out of  5951  and System Moniter shows that I have 2200mb  left.   I think that I am owned.
[06:03] <kaushal> DrPenguin: is it https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EncryptedFilesystemHowto ?
[06:03] <Captain_Crow> TiMiDo, is emerald the replacement for ccsm in ubuntu 11.10?
[06:03] <derphead> almoxarife: CUPS and bluetooth stuff
[06:03] <DrPenguin> kaushal: I dont know.. I dont use ubuntu
[06:03] <almoxarife> derphead: stuff
[06:04] <derphead> how do I add the dbus things back?
[06:04] <almoxarife> derphead: gosh, did you think that stuff was there for a reason?
[06:04] <DrPenguin> derphead: try apt-get install dbus
[06:04] <derphead> DrPenguin: it says "dbus is already the newest version"
[06:05] <DrPenguin> then…. you didnt remove dbus, but somehting associated with dbus
[06:05] <almoxarife> DrPenguin: he needs to apt-get install ubuntu-desktop, it's the only thing to be sure all the 'stuff' that is gone comes back
[06:05] <DrPenguin> almoxarife: then tell him that :P
[06:05] <derphead> I'll do that
[06:05] <skegeek> Does Ubuntu-Unity have problems with Intel Mobile graphics cards?
[06:06] <almoxarife> DrPenguin: nope, you are doing very well, continue, if you would
[06:06] <aeon-ltd> skegeek: if you have any just ask here
[06:06] <DrPenguin> almoxarife: :p thanks
[06:06] <derphead> it says "unable to locate package ubuntu-desktop"... also tried 'kubuntu-desktop'
[06:06]  * Captain_Crow just wants fancy compiz features w/o crashing or corrupting the OS...
[06:07] <skegeek> I've Intel Mobile Express 965 graphics card and Ubuntu keeps freezing.
[06:07] <almoxarife> derphead: what are you running??? ubuntu? ku..... what??
[06:07] <DrPenguin> Captain_Crow: Why are you worried about "crashing or corrupting the OS"? This isnt Windows
[06:07] <DrPenguin> almoxarife: kubuntu
[06:07] <skegeek> It was after being idle, but it just froze when i was doing something.
[06:07] <derphead> almoxarife: Kubuntu 11.10, clean install
[06:07] <pippo> ciao
[06:07] <almoxarife> DrPenguin: then install kubuntu-desktop
[06:08] <Captain_Crow> its already crashed and corrupted 5 times after I tried to run compiz features
[06:08] <derphead> almoxarife: it's not able to locate that either
[06:08] <DrPenguin> Captain_Crow: Ive NEVER had an issue where Ive broken Ubuntu beyound repair with compiz
[06:08] <DrPenguin> derphead: make sure your repos synced, do apt-get update
[06:08] <DrPenguin> then apt-cache search kubuntu
[06:09] <almoxarife> !info kubuntu-desktop
[06:09] <skegeek> I'm running Ubuntu 11.10, I've even tried Gnome Classic. I turned off power control, I had disabled Compiz as well. I haven't managed to turn off screen saver, but that doesn't appear to matter as of now.
[06:09] <almoxarife> derphead: what else aren't you sahring
[06:09] <dyess002> Metroshica  free -m on mine shows  5841 out of 5951  leaving me eith just 110 free. syytem Moniter shows that I have 2.5 out of 5.8.  I get the feeling that someone is being hornswoggled.
[06:09] <almoxarife> sharing?
[06:09] <DrPenguin> almoxarife: his cookies no doubt
[06:09] <motorin> hola saludos
[06:09] <derphead> almoxarife: it's in a VM
[06:09] <almoxarife> derphead: that don't matter,
[06:10] <Captain_Crow> DrPenguin, i couldn't get the desktop to work at all aside from tapping the power button to get the shutdown menu to come up, I had to reinstall ubuntu completely to get it to work again
[06:10] <DrPenguin> Captain_Crow: thats not a compiz break, you broke something severely there
[06:11] <Captain_Crow> its happened every time i tried to run the cube feature
[06:11] <Shodowjedi01> Can someone help me with my boot screen issue?
[06:11] <DrPenguin> Captain_Crow: as I said, your breakin something there.. compiz wouldnt bork your system
[06:12] <DrPenguin> Shodowjedi01: just say your issue
[06:13] <almoxarife> !info pastebinit
[06:13] <Shodowjedi01> Dr.Penguin: I was messing around with the plymouth manager and now my boot screen is all jacked up, plymouth is non responsive and synaptic will not allow me to remove it until I "fix broken packages"
[06:13] <Captain_Crow> all i had to do was install ccsm, run it, checkmark the cube feature, and after that EVERYTHING on the desktop would disappear and become unuseable, i even tried the Alt+F2 thing to bring up the command terminal and nothing would happen
[06:14] <almoxarife> tried pastebinit, it is that easy, from the terminal even
[06:14] <DrPenguin> Shodowjedi01: hmmm.. what kind of video card do you have
[06:15] <DrPenguin> Captain_Crow: that doesnt sound like somehting compiz would do.. Did you pay attention to the other things that compiz asked you to do when you enabled cube?
[06:15] <Captain_Crow> yes
[06:15] <DrPenguin> Captain_Crow: what else did you change
[06:15] <Captain_Crow> that was it
[06:15] <Shodowjedi01> Dr. Penguin: ATI Technologies Inc RS780M/RS780MN
[06:15] <DrPenguin> Captain_Crow: I call bs, theres no way
[06:16] <Captain_Crow> the only other things in installed were the updates
[06:16] <Shodowjedi01> Captain_Crow: Sounds to me like you messed up your screen res
[06:16] <DrPenguin> Shodowjedi01: hmm.. what framebuffer are you using? vesafb?
[06:16] <Shodowjedi01> Dr. Penguin: Not really sure
[06:16] <dyess002> test
[06:16] <DrPenguin> Shodowjedi01: can you dmesg and look through that close to the bottom? my first guess is your using vesafb
[06:17] <almoxarife> DrPenguin: what log shows the info you need from Shodowjedi01?
[06:17] <dyess002> Penetration Testing with dsniff
[06:17] <DrPenguin> almoxarife: im not really looking for anything specific, just any vesafb messages in dmesg
[06:17] <DrPenguin> I need to know what framebuffer hes using
[06:17] <Captain_Crow> so i'd have to change the screen resolution?
[06:17] <DrPenguin> or see if theres a collision of framebuffers, depending on if his vid card supports KMS
[06:17] <almoxarife> Shodowjedi01: familiar with terminal?
[06:18] <urlin2u> Captain_Crow, run unity reset in a terminal to setb it stock and reboot.
[06:18] <Shodowjedi01> almostxarife: yes
[06:18] <urlin2u> Captain_Crow, unity --reset
[06:18] <Shodowjedi01> I just ran the dmesg command
[06:18] <DrPenguin> Shodowjedi01: if you want, you can pastebin the dmesg output and I can read it
[06:18] <Captain_Crow> i cant open the terminal after running compiz
[06:18] <DrPenguin> Captain_Crow: you can vt switch
[06:19] <DrPenguin> Shodowjedi01: I think it would be nice too to have the output of lsmod
[06:19] <Shodowjedi01> t pref]
[06:19] <Shodowjedi01> [    0.532546] pci 0000:00:04.0: PCI bridge to [bus 03-03]
[06:19] <Shodowjedi01> [    0.532546] pci 0000:00:04.0:   bridge window [io  disabled]
[06:19] <Shodowjedi01> [    0.532546] pci 0000:00:04.0:   bridge window [mem 0xf0300000-0xf03fffff]
[06:19] <Shodowjedi01> [    0.532546] pci 0000:00:04.0:   bridge window [mem pref disabled]
[06:19] <Shodowjedi01> [    0.532546] pci 0000:00:06.0: PCI bridge to [bus 09-09]
[06:19] <FloodBot1> Shodowjedi01: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:19] <urlin2u> Captain_Crow, use a tty crtl-alt-f1 do it there then reboot
[06:19] <almoxarife> Shodowjedi01: not here
[06:19] <DrPenguin> he got booted :(
[06:20] <DrPenguin> Shodowjedi01: put that on pastebin.com or whatever
[06:20] <urlin2u> Captain_Crow, unity and compiz are intertwined unity is a plugin in compiz you need to look on the web for a tutorial; in setting up the cube.
[06:20] <Shodowjedi01> Dr. Penguin: The dmesg or lsmod?
[06:21] <DrPenguin> Shodowjedi01: just dmesg, if I need lsmod Ill have you do that too
[06:21] <c_smith> urlin2u, I've found in 11.10 the Desktop cube is even more risky (possibly impossible) to implement with Unity.
[06:22] <DrPenguin> ftr, Unity just sucks
[06:22] <urlin2u> c_smith, not impossible  have it running fine.
[06:22] <c_smith> possibly impossible..... oxymoron.....
[06:22] <almoxarife> !ot
[06:22] <Captain_Crow> so compiz effects are not a standard ubuntu feature and will be buggy unless you know exactly how to use them?
[06:22] <dyess002>  ?
[06:23] <derphead> DrPenguin: it's reinstalled everything I removed. How do I return to the graphical login terminal now? Or should I reboot?
[06:23] <DrPenguin> derphead: sudo service kdm restart, but Id say reboot
[06:23] <derphead> DrPenguin: how do I reboot from a terminal?
[06:23] <urlin2u> Captain_Crow, they are part of the unity desktop a little mre ten click and hope is needed.
[06:23] <DrPenguin> derphead: sudo shutdown -r now
[06:23] <c_smith> Captain_Crow, not exactly, you can use only a limited extent without knowing how to properly configure it otherwise.
[06:23] <Shodowjedi01> Dr. Penguin: I pasted in pastebin the name is Dr. Penguin
[06:23] <yekoms> sudo reboot
[06:23] <urlin2u> more then*
[06:23] <DrPenguin> or sudo reboot
[06:23] <derphead> thank ye
[06:24] <DrPenguin> Shodowjedi01: do whu nao?
[06:25] <DrPenguin> I need the link of the pastebin
[06:25] <Shodowjedi01> I pasted the output of dmseg on pastebin.com
[06:25] <Shodowjedi01> oh ok
[06:25] <motorin> Someone who can install pyrit in ubuntu
[06:25] <blackshi1t> motorin: what is pyrit ?
[06:25] <Shodowjedi01> Dr. Penguin http://pastebin.com/Kj0X2JCA
[06:25] <allquixotic> Is there a way to have a package from a PPA depend upon a package from another user's PPA? I build-depends on valac 0.15 for my package; that version of valac is available in someone else's PPA. Do I have to grab their source packages and upload them to my PPA to get it to work, or can I just tell the build server to install packages from that other PPA?
[06:26] <DrPenguin> Shodowjedi01: I was right! your using KMS
[06:26] <Shodowjedi01> :-)
[06:26] <yman> need help with : When trying to install from software center it tell me "no internet connection"
[06:26] <c_smith> allquixotic, I don't believe you can have that type of thing without the PPA owner specifying it themselves in the package code.
[06:26] <DrPenguin> Shodowjedi01: so.. I think if we blacklist vesafb you should be ok
[06:26] <DrPenguin> yman: well, DO you have a net connection?
[06:26] <urlin2u> yman, can you run a apt-get update?
[06:27] <allquixotic> c_smith: Which PPA owner? I'm the PPA owner for the package that depends on a package in another's PPA; does that mean there's a way for me to do that?
[06:27] <Shodowjedi01> Dr. Penguin: will this fix my plymouth manager?
[06:27] <yman> DrPenguin... I'm in here
[06:27] <motorin> It is a command to do that the graphical card works together with the processor of the cpu
[06:27] <DrPenguin> yman: well that doesnt mean your using the same pc..
[06:27] <yman> ok
[06:27] <DrPenguin> Shodowjedi01: I think it will
[06:27] <yman> I will try that urlin2u
[06:27] <Shodowjedi01> Dr. Penguin: Ok lets try it!
[06:28] <c_smith> allquixotic, now I think about it, I don't think it's even possible, but I'm shooting in the dark, I'll have to have someone else answer.
[06:28] <DrPenguin> Shodowjedi01: cd to /etc/modprobe.d
[06:28] <derphead> DrPenguin: It was still broken, but now it gave me another option on the login screen (I swear it wasn't there before) to select a new session. I appear to be logged in fine now.
[06:28] <motorin> Someone who can install pyrit in ubuntu 11.10
[06:28] <DrPenguin> derphead: nice! what session did you log into?
[06:28] <allquixotic> c_smith: I know it's possible to have packages _within your own PPA_ depend on eachother. I have seen that in countless PPAs, such as the xorg edgers where all the xorg stack packages depend on each other
[06:29] <Shodowjedi01> Dr. Penguin: "No such file or directory"
[06:29] <DrPenguin> Shodowjedi01: uh… that *should* be a directory
[06:29] <allquixotic> c_smith: So I guess I just have to grab the valac source packages from the other PPA, sign them with my own gpg key, and upload them to my own PPA lol
[06:29] <derphead> DrPenguin: "KDE Plasma something or other" in addition to "default" and "failsafe", the two that were there before
[06:29] <c_smith> allquixotic, I'd guess so.
[06:29] <derphead> are those "sessions" I'm not sure?
[06:29] <DrPenguin> did Ubuntu change the modprobe directory in Oneric?
[06:29] <DrPenguin> derphead: yeah those are sessions
[06:30] <c_smith> allquixotic, what's your program, btw?
[06:30] <allquixotic> c_smith: http://launchpad.net/rbpitch
[06:30] <Shodowjedi01> Dr. Penguin: I'm running Maverick
[06:30] <c_smith> allquixotic, thanks, I was curious and wanted to look.
[06:30] <derphead> DrPenguin: thank you very much for your help. I'll be more careful with future uninstalls.
[06:30] <DrPenguin> Shodowjedi01: either way its weird.. try this
[06:30] <DrPenguin> find / -name "blacklist*"
[06:30] <allquixotic> c_smith: I'm a long way away from Oregon but nice to meet a fellow hacker ;)
[06:30] <DrPenguin> sudo actually
[06:30] <DrPenguin> derphead: np
[06:30] <TiMiDo> it should be in /etc/blacklist
[06:30] <almoxarife> DrPenguin: /etc/modprobe.d
[06:31] <TiMiDo> yeah true that almoxarife ;)
[06:31] <Shodowjedi01> DrPenguin: So the command I'm running is sudo derphead: np?
[06:31] <DrPenguin> almoxarife: thats what I thought.. but Shodowjedi01is saying theres no such file or dir
[06:31] <TiMiDo> /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist
[06:31] <TiMiDo> if not create it
[06:31] <c_smith> allquixotic, yeah, I'm beginning (haven't even modified anything in source) but I hope to be able to in the next 2-3 years.
[06:31] <DrPenguin> Shodowjedi01: no! lol.. sudo find / -name "blacklist*"
[06:32] <allquixotic> c_smith: Wow, I'm stupid; I found the answer in the launchpad docs!!!!!
[06:32] <allquixotic> c_smith: https://help.launchpad.net/Packaging/PPA/BuildingASourcePackage#Depending_on_other_PPAs
[06:32] <allquixotic> c_smith: The answer is to click the dang button to edit PPA dependencies.......... wow... I missed that?!
[06:32] <c_smith> allquixotic, well, I haven't even messed with it. if you don't mind, could we have a chat in #ubuntu-offtopic?
[06:32] <Shodowjedi01> DrPenguin: One momment please
[06:33] <allquixotic> c_smith: sure
[06:34] <Shodowjedi01> DrPenguin: http://pastebin.com/iK6xjtzF
[06:34] <DrPenguin> Shodowjedi01: ok /etc/modprobe.d does exist, you just goofed the command up
[06:34] <Shodowjedi01> oopse
[06:35] <DrPenguin> was gonna say Id be surprised if it didnt exist
[06:35] <yman> urlin2u,  GPG error: http://deb.torproject.org natty InRelease: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 74A941BA219EC810 ... I removed the signatures and now its working
[06:35] <DrPenguin> ok.. anyway.. edit blacklist-framebuffer.conf with your editor of choice, we need to add blacklist vesafb if it isnt in there.. if it is in there and not commented.. then we need to disable it since its some how being invoked stil
[06:36] <yman> ty
[06:36] <urlin2u> yman, cool
[06:36] <yman> hagn
[06:36] <Shodowjedi01> totally just lost me DrPenguin
[06:36] <DrPenguin> ok, have you used any text editors on Linux?
[06:37] <Shodowjedi01> DrPenguin: I'm going to say no?
[06:37] <Shodowjedi01> perhapse?
[06:37] <DrPenguin> Shodowjedi01: ok,, since your new to linux, we will do this the easy way, are you in /etc/modprobe.d?
[06:37] <Captain_Crow> is there a specific compiz editor that I need for 11.10?
[06:37] <almoxarife> Shodowjedi01: no is a better choice right now
[06:37] <DrPenguin> Captain_Crow: no
[06:38] <Shodowjedi01> DrPenguin: The command you gave me isn't working
[06:38] <Shodowjedi01> I copied it exactly as you typed it
[06:38] <DrPenguin> Shodowjedi01: paste what your typing in
[06:39] <skegeek> Perhaps this will be useful in solving my problems: http://pastebin.com/7Q0sD7qq
[06:39] <Captain_Crow> DrPenguin, what editor should i be using? (maybe im downloading the wrong one im not really sure)
[06:39] <Shodowjedi01> cd to /etc/modprobe.d
[06:39] <DrPenguin> Shodowjedi01: theres no such thing as to
[06:39] <DrPenguin> its just: cd /etc/modprobe.d
[06:39] <DrPenguin> Captain_Crow: ccsm....
[06:40] <Shodowjedi01> DrPenguin: In there like swimwear
[06:40] <DrPenguin> Shodowjedi01: good but also creepy
[06:40] <Shodowjedi01> :-)
[06:40] <DrPenguin> now, do: sudo gedit blacklist-framebuffer.conf
[06:41] <Shodowjedi01> DrPenguin: In the text editor
[06:41] <Cyph3r> checking the forums, but is there a good guide on ubuntuforums for SSH?
[06:41] <DrPenguin> do you see blacklist vesafb?
[06:41] <Cyph3r> if anyone knows the title offhand
[06:41] <Shodowjedi01> let me look
[06:41] <DrPenguin> YOU DO THAT
[06:41] <Shodowjedi01> I do
[06:42] <DrPenguin> Shodowjedi01: ok… is it commented out?
[06:42] <Shodowjedi01> DrPenguin: What do you mean commented out?
[06:42] <DrPenguin> is there a # infront of it
[06:42] <Captain_Crow> is it something installed by default or do i have to type ccsm into the software center search bar? (last few times i been typing "compiz" into the download center and used the manage i found there which wrecked my OS and I've seen similar stories in the review section)
[06:43] <Shodowjedi01> DrPenguin: No there isn't
[06:43] <DrPenguin> Shodowjedi01: ok.. thats weird.. vesafb is blocked but its still running.. hmm
[06:43] <DrPenguin> so now.. the solution becomes.. either disable kms or remove vesafb.. the latter I think is the more viable option
[06:44] <Cyph3r> Captain_Crow,  did you try just typing ccsm into terminal?
[06:44] <Shodowjedi01> DrPenguin: I'll use your digression
[06:45] <Captain_Crow> Cyph3r, yes
[06:46] <pikpik> Hi. Is it possible to run .desktop files from Terminal?
[06:46] <almoxarife> pikpik: no need, run the app that the desktop file is associated with in terminal
[06:47] <DrPenguin> Shodowjedi01: hmmmm.. maybe its uvesafb..?get a pastebin of lsmod for me please
[06:47] <Arizona_Bay> how do you locate an application in a terminal ?
[06:47] <Shodowjedi01> DrPenguin: On it, one momment plz
[06:47] <hieveryone> howdy
[06:47] <Captain_Crow> it says ccsm is not installed
[06:47] <Cyph3r> sudo apt-get install ccsm
[06:47] <TiMiDo> Arizona_Bay,  locate app name
[06:47] <hieveryone> i'm new to linux, i'm getting an error "gstreamer encountered a general resource error"
[06:48] <hieveryone> when playing a dvd
[06:48] <Shodowjedi01> DrPenguin: http://pastebin.com/wZtVQqYs
[06:48] <pikpik> almoxarife: It's a Windows executable associated with WINE.
[06:48] <Cyph3r> Captain_Crow, are you just trying to set up compiz?
[06:49] <Captain_Crow> yea
[06:49] <Shodowjedi01> alomoxarife: Or open in windows under virtualbox
[06:49] <Cyph3r> Captain_Crow, yeah, just jump in the terminal and type:    sudo apt-get install ccsm
[06:49] <Captain_Crow> ok
[06:49] <hieveryone> NEVERMIND. vlc fixed  the issue
[06:49] <hieveryone> thanks anyways
[06:49] <hieveryone> also, i want to learn alot about linux
[06:49] <hieveryone> but dont know where to begin
[06:49] <pikpik> almoxarife: I'm trying to make the program executable from "Dash home."
[06:50] <DrPenguin> Shodowjedi01: hmm.. I dont see uvesafb in there.. this is weird.. can you install hwinfo and do sudo hwinfo --framebuffer?
[06:50] <hieveryone> any suggestions on where to start, i use ubuntu now
[06:50] <Captain_Crow> Cyph3r, it says "Unable to locate package ccsm"
[06:50] <Shodowjedi01> hieveryone: http://www.ee.surrey.ac.uk/Teaching/Unix/unix2.html
[06:50] <skegeek> Can anyone help me with the error I pastebin'd?
[06:51] <Shodowjedi01> hieveryone: http://tldp.org/
[06:51] <hieveryone> also windows wouldnt even recognize my laptop dvd player, linux did instantly, this kicks ass
[06:51] <DrPenguin> Shodowjedi01: actually, forget that, can you  pastebin your /etc/efault/grub?
[06:51] <edbian> linux is great
[06:51] <hieveryone> thanks shodojedi01
[06:51] <Shodowjedi01> DrPenguin: Roger that
[06:51] <hieveryone> thanks shodowjedi01
[06:51] <DrPenguin> */etc/default/grub/* forgot a d
[06:51] <DrPenguin> GAH no slash after grub
[06:51] <Zeroe> Anyone here tried connecting to CentOs lately?
[06:52] <urlin2u> Captain_Crow, read this link on the cube in natty it is the same in oneirirc, notice the bit on setting up a compiz restart button. http://reformedmusings.wordpress.com/2011/05/05/howto-get-the-compiz-desktop-cube-in-ubuntu-11-04-natty-and-unity/
[06:53] <almoxarife> pikpik: what is 'dashhome'??
[06:53] <Cyph3r> Captain_Crow, crap sorry...it's:   sudo apt-get install compizconfig-settings-manager
[06:53] <hieveryone> oh wow http://tldp.org/ is really indepth, thanks alot ill deff give it a read
[06:53] <Shodowjedi01> DrPenguin: Having trouble with that command and brb I need a mtn dew recharge
[06:54] <Shodowjedi01> hieveryone: np
[06:54] <DrPenguin> roflcopter ok
[06:54] <Cyph3r> lol-apalooza
[06:55] <derphead> goldtriapsuninfeatherly
[06:55] <derphead> whoops
[06:55] <derphead> well there goes that password to the world
[06:56] <pikpik> almoxarife: Oh, sorry. "Dash": http://www.ubuntu.com/sites/www.ubuntu.com/files/active/images/oneiric-features-overview-dash.jpg
[06:56] <Captain_Crow> Cyph3r, i've already tried "sudo apt-get install compizconfig-settings-manager" too, i just gave me the same thing
[06:56] <Shodowjedi01> DrPenguin: ok I"m back and all dewed up!
[06:57] <urlin2u> derphead, weak one at that.
[06:57] <pikpik> almoxarife: In a nutshell, I'm trying to make Spotify look native (even though I'm using WINE).
[06:57] <Shodowjedi01> ty for your help and friendly disposition
[06:57] <almoxarife> pikpik: I am sort of lost, so you want to click on an exe file in dashhome
[06:57] <pikpik> almoxarife: Exactly.
[06:58] <almoxarife> pikpik: but only .desktop files are shown, right?
[06:58] <Cyph3r> Captain_Crow, and you haven't install compiz before?
[06:58] <pikpik> almoxarife: In dash/dash home? I'm not sure; I'm new to it. :\
[06:59] <almoxarife> pikpik: pretty sure that a .desktop file needs to exist to be seen in 'dashhome'
[06:59] <DrPenguin> Shodowjedi01: heh, wheres my /etc/default/grub! kill your sperm on your own time
[07:00] <derphead> urlin2u: 26^23... that's like 108-bit
[07:00] <Cyph3r> what bothers me is how a bullet-point (using dreamweaver) will make a nice bullet in firefox, but a crazy ass symbol on a mac (camino i imagine)
[07:00] <Shodowjedi01> DrPenguin: all this terminal work is taking it out of me
[07:00] <DrPenguin> pfft
[07:00] <DrPenguin> I live in terminal
[07:01] <pikpik> almoxarife: Hmmm... ok.
[07:01] <edbian> I also live in terminal
[07:01] <Shodowjedi01> "permission denied"
[07:01] <almoxarife> pikpik: which is why I gave on it and its gnome3 version and installed cairo-dock, so I could have handy access to anything I wanted with the click of the mouse, of course it does take adding the app/prog to it
[07:01] <DrPenguin> Shodowjedi01: sudo !!
[07:02] <Shodowjedi01> *smacks self in face*
[07:02] <DrPenguin> (I literally mean !! too, it means run last command
[07:02] <Captain_Crow> Cyph3r, the last few times i installed it from the ubuntu download center, i typed "compiz" in the search box then downloaded the one that said manager, when I opened it and checkmarked the cube feature, the top bar and icon bar disappeared and i was left with nothing but the desktop background, and it stayed that way even after rebooting and there was no shutdown menu button anymore, i had to press the power button to bring u
[07:02] <Shodowjedi01> all
[07:03] <Shodowjedi01> ahh**
[07:03] <Cyph3r> Captain_Crow, ahhh okay
[07:03] <Cyph3r> i think you need to reset your panel bars
[07:03] <DrPenguin> Shodowjedi01: I dont mean to rush you, but ill be logging off soon, I need to be up in 4 hours for work
[07:03] <Shodowjedi01> charlie@Hal-9000:~$ /etc/efault/grub
[07:03] <Shodowjedi01> bash: /etc/efault/grub: No such file or directory
[07:03] <Shodowjedi01> charlie@Hal-9000:~$ /etc/default/grub
[07:03] <Shodowjedi01> bash: /etc/default/grub: Permission denied
[07:03] <Shodowjedi01> charlie@Hal-9000:~$ /etc/default/grub/
[07:03] <Shodowjedi01> bash: /etc/default/grub/: Not a directory
[07:03] <Shodowjedi01> charlie@Hal-9000:~$ /etc/defaultgrub
[07:03] <FloodBot1> Shodowjedi01: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:04] <edbian> fun
[07:04] <Cyph3r> Captain_Crow, what build of ubuntu are you using?
[07:04] <Captain_Crow> Cyph3r, after it happened i wasnt able to access anything, i had to reinstall ubuntu
[07:04] <DrPenguin> Shodowjedi01: thats not a command.. its a file
[07:04] <Captain_Crow> 11.10
[07:05] <pikpik> almoxarife: Yeah... I'm trying to do something minimal for another user. So, I'd like to not install anything more than WINE, if reasonably possible.
[07:05] <Shodowjedi01> DrPenguin: Get some rest
[07:05] <ugur> hi
[07:05] <Shodowjedi01> I"m pretty frazzled myself
[07:05] <Shodowjedi01> DrPenguin: Thanks for the help though, friend. I appreciate it
[07:05] <DrPenguin> Shodowjedi01: lol ok, heres what I was bitin at. What we need to do is probably remove the vga=xxx lines from your kernel boot params and then update grub.. that hsould fix things
[07:05] <DrPenguin> its np
[07:06] <Shodowjedi01> DrPenguin: Right on
[07:07] <DrPenguin> ill see yall later then.. tomorrows my last day of work before holiday break.. hopefully I can get some slep @_@;
[07:07] <almoxarife> pikpik: doesn't wine offer up installed apps in a menu in dash? right side?
[07:07] <urlin2u> derphead, mostly dictionary words no capitals or punctuation or odd symbols.
[07:07] <urlin2u> no numbers
[07:09] <derphead> urlin2u: hokay
[07:09] <antz> hi
[07:10] <derphead> aww man I broke KDE again
[07:11] <almoxarife> derphead: deleted another odd named file/folder?
[07:12] <derphead> almoxarife: I just uninstalled bluetooth and ppp stuff. I have a VM snapshot. I'll roll it back.
[07:12] <almoxarife> derphead: how are you deleting?
[07:13] <Captain_Crow> should I just give up on trying to get compiz features to work on ubuntu 11.10 and just download ubuntu 10.04?
[07:13] <derphead> almoxarife: the muon program thingie
[07:13] <Captain_Crow> idk if im doing it wrong or if 11.10 is just buggy
[07:13] <psychognite> hello guys nybody knows how to create bootable usb using command
[07:13] <TiMiDo> Captain_Crow, lol
[07:13] <pikpik> almoxarife: I thought so, but I don't see it.
[07:13] <TiMiDo> still with the compiz issues?
[07:14] <urlin2u> Captain_Crow, did you look at the link I posted it describes what you will see and how to deal with it?
[07:14] <psychognite> anybody help me in creating bootable usb flash drive
[07:14] <almoxarife> pikpik: it may only exist in the 2d desktop
[07:14] <psychognite> anybody help me in creating bootable usb flash drive ????
[07:14] <TiMiDo> stop repeating you'r self Psychobudgie
[07:15] <urlin2u> psychognite, what OS ?
[07:15] <psychognite> window XP
[07:15] <psychognite> sir
[07:15] <ugur> hello I have a problem about battery charging.
[07:15] <ugur> ubuntu barely charge my xps 15 laptop battery.
[07:15] <ugur> Charging time increase during charge. btw windows is ok, no problem
[07:15] <urlin2u> psychognite, some have claimed unetbootin, never worked for me can be done in windows though.
[07:15] <fidel> ugur: how long does it take?
[07:15] <ugur> what can i do ?
[07:15] <fidel> ugur: i got a xps as well
[07:16] <urlin2u> with a legit MS iso. psychognite
[07:16] <ugur> i haven't measure full charge time but
[07:16] <psychognite> yes i have iso file of Window Xp
[07:16] <psychognite> urlin2u
[07:16] <ugur> i generally use xps on ac
[07:17] <psychognite> unetbootin does have option for windows also
[07:17] <psychognite> urlin2u
[07:17] <almoxarife> psychognite: wrong channel
[07:17] <ugur> fidel: indicator says 14 min. around 20 min.
[07:17] <urlin2u> psychognite, thats about it from me this is ubuntu support not XP.
[07:17] <Captain_Crow> urlin2u, what link?
[07:18] <pikpik> almoxarife: Ok.
[07:18] <Captain_Crow> reformedmusings?
[07:19] <psychognite> urlin2u i need to know how to boot usb cn u urlin2u sir give me some reference where i can do so.....?
[07:19] <urlin2u> Captain_Crow, read carefully says natty same in oneiric notice the compiz restart button needed. http://reformedmusings.wordpress.com/2011/05/05/howto-get-the-compiz-desktop-cube-in-ubuntu-11-04-natty-and-unity/
[07:19] <ugur> fidel: acpi -f output= )] fidel: if i write
[07:19] <ugur> fidel: acpi -f output= )] Battery 0: Charging, 99%, 00:15:19 until charged
[07:20] <ugur> now Battery 0: Charging, 99%, 00:15:31 until charged
[07:20] <almoxarife> Captain_Crow: if you would verify that 'ubuntu-tweak' does not crash 11.10 for some reason, then I would recommend it for compiz tweaking, its got a very simple config for it, that's what I used till I killed compiz
[07:20] <ugur> time increase
[07:20] <ugur> if i use laptop
[07:20] <urlin2u> psychognite, I have never gotten a XP iso on a thumb in open source to work only when loaded in a windows environment do you understand this.
[07:21] <psychognite> its kk urlin2u thnx for help..:)
[07:22] <pikpik> almoxarife: Ah! I put Spotify.desktop in /usr/share/applications, and it shows up in "dashhome" and acts native now! :D
[07:22] <almoxarife> !info ubuntu-tweak
[07:22] <almoxarife> pikpik: what is 'spotify?
[07:23] <Captain_Crow> urlin2u, what is "NATTY"
[07:23] <almoxarife> !info spotify
[07:23] <pikpik> almoxarife: http://www.spotify.com/us/about/what/ --> http://www.spotify.com/us/help/faq/wine/
[07:23] <almoxarife> !spotify
[07:23] <urlin2u> Captain_Crow, the 11.04 release, the latest is 11.10
[07:23] <nprezident> hello people, today i backed up my 11.10 ubuntu system using tar, and then i reinstalled ubuntu 11.10 now when i boot up its giving me an error stating that /dev/disk/by-uuid/..... does not exist dropping to shell is there any way i can restore my system
[07:23] <nprezident> ?
[07:24] <urlin2u> Captain_Crow, the Ubuntu release are alphabetical 11.04 Natty Narwhal 11.10 Oneiric Ocelot
[07:24] <antzlen1> hiiiii everyone...can anyone tell me hw can i repair my crash ubuntu os 10.04
[07:25] <antzlen1> hiiiii everyone...can anyone tell me hw can i repair my crash ubuntu os 10.04
[07:25] <nprezident> antzlen1 your going to give alot more details then that ..
[07:25] <urlin2u> !details | antzlen1
[07:25] <Captain_Crow> it looks complicated
[07:26] <urlin2u> Captain_Crow, depends I suppose how used you are to the setup, but O can see why you would say that.
[07:26] <pikpik> almoxarife: Thanks for helping. :)
[07:26] <urlin2u> I*
[07:26] <antzlen1> ubottu: my system is not booting from hd
[07:26] <antzlen1> i m running ubuntu 10.04
[07:26] <urlin2u> antzlen1, what happens
[07:27] <almoxarife> pikpik: :)
[07:27] <antzlen1> urlin2u: hw can i repair my crash ubuntu os 10.04
[07:27] <urlin2u> antzlen1, you need to give details and answer questions.
[07:28] <Captain_Crow> urlin2u, im new to ubuntu stuff, is 10.04 more stable/user-friendly for setting up the cube?
[07:28] <TiMiDo> lol
[07:28] <TiMiDo> Captain_Crow, not really if you cannot get it working on testing what makes you think by downgrading you'll get the cube working once again?
[07:29] <urlin2u> Captain_Crow, probably not sure never used 10.04 that long or the cube in it.
[07:29] <nprezident> are their things you have to do before you can restore your system from a tar file >? i reinstalled ubuntu 11.10 after i backed up my system to a tar file and now i can't log back in back /dev/disk/by-uuid/... does not exist ?
[07:29] <ikonia> nprezident: you shouldn't be restoring your system from a tar file
[07:30] <almoxarife> Captain_Crow: look at plasma-shell in the current 11.10, it may be where you want to go, and you can even have your cube, while staying current
[07:30] <urlin2u> TiMiDo, lucid is gnome 2 likely easier for a beginner.
[07:30] <TiMiDo> nprezident, enable it via /etc/fstab
[07:30] <ikonia> nprezident: exactly what did you back up in your tar file
[07:30] <ikonia> it's not just "fstab"
[07:30] <nprezident> ikonia aww damm too late good to know
[07:30] <TiMiDo> i just stick with xfce4
[07:30] <TiMiDo> is a good tool
[07:30] <TiMiDo> ;)
[07:30] <ikonia> nprezident: what did you backup ?
[07:30] <antzlen1> Hi I am not able to boot
[07:31] <nprezident> ikonia everything except proc lost found mnt and sys
[07:31] <ikonia> antzlen1: you've been told - you need to provide details
[07:31] <ikonia> nprezident: that's not a good process,
[07:31] <antzlen1> okiez
[07:31] <ikonia> nprezident: your fstab and grub config will need to be changed at least
[07:32] <nprezident> ikonia whats a good process to backup the hole system >? and how would i do that if i can't even log on ? \
[07:32] <nprezident> the system drops me to a shelll
[07:32] <ikonia> nprezident: you need to boot from a livecd, mount the disk and make the alterations
[07:32] <Captain_Crow> which plasma shell?
[07:32] <nprezident> ikonia to which files ?
[07:32] <antzlen1> every time whenever i start my sys then i see a black display showing generic,generic recovery mode
[07:33] <ikonia> nprezident: this is where it's going to get complex, you can just flat modify /etc/fstab, but you'll probably have to chroot your system to update the grub files now that it's dynamic
[07:33] <antzlen1> whenever i select one of these options ...again this window reappars
[07:34] <parkchaehwan> cvvcx;lmkvb
[07:34] <nprezident> lol ikonia whats the worst that can happen i already can't log on
[07:34] <ikonia> antzlen1: so if you select "geneirc", it just goes back to the menu "generic"
[07:34] <antzlen1> its showig a message ..."no init found.....try passing init=bootarg"
[07:35] <ikonia> nprezident: my advice - do a clean install, untar the tar file to a directory, and select the files you want to restore
[07:35] <ikonia> nprezident: eg: clean install, restore your home directory, restore your apache config etc etc, stuff you want to keep
[07:35] <antzlen1> where i have to pass this "init=bootarg"
[07:36] <antzlen1> plz telle me
[07:36] <ikonia> antzlen1: why do you want to pass that ?
[07:36] <ikonia> (there is no such option as bootarg)
[07:36] <nprezident> ikonia cool thanx is there a way i can get my applications back without having to reinstall i used dpkg --get-selections > install.log to back up them up
[07:36] <nprezident> or is that going to be a problem also ?
[07:36] <antzlen1> thn wht to do ....this is the only thing i am seeing on the screen ....
[07:37] <Captain_Crow> im just gonna try 10.04, i see alot of reviews for compiz guis not working in 11.10
[07:37] <ikonia> nprezident: the position your in, it's easier to re-install the applications, then restore any config files you want
[07:37] <antzlen1> & the sys is this screen ony after entering the generic
[07:37] <nprezident> ikonia thanx
[07:38] <antzlen1> i told you naa am not able to boot the sys
[07:38] <ikonia> antzlen1: ok - so you see the grub menu, with "generic" and "recovery" options, if you higlight generic with the cursor keys, and kit "enter" what happenes
[07:39] <nprezident> ikonia would it be a problem if i restored my /usr/bin/ folder ?
[07:39] <ikonia> nprezident: yes
[07:39] <nprezident> lol great
[07:40] <ikonia> nprezident: only restore your home directories and config files
[07:40] <ikonia> nprezident: the rest should come from a clean install
[07:41] <antzlen1> its showig a message ..."no init found.....try passing init=bootarg"
[07:41] <nprezident> ikonia whats a way i can backup my system and restore it back to the way it was ? dd command ?
[07:42] <ikonia> nprezident: you can use dd - but you need to understand what you are doing, that is a block by block copy, which includes things such as the partition table data, so if things change such as your disk size or layout, this WILL overwrite those changes and you'll be in the same position you are now
[07:42] <nprezident> i understand
[07:43] <CarlFK> I don't know what the goal is, but sounds like a job for http://clonezilla.org
[07:43] <ikonia> nprezident: it will back up empty space too, that sort of thing. It's a great method if you understand what you are doing
[07:43] <antzlen1> i told you naa am not able to boot the sys
[07:43] <antzlen1> its showig a message ..."no init found.....try passing init=bootarg"
[07:43] <nprezident> ikonia i see
[07:43] <antzlen1> plz telle me
[07:44] <ikonia> nprezident: check out what CarlFK said
[07:44] <CarlFK> antzlen1: do you have a usb drive plugged in?
[07:45] <antzlen1> tell me wht to do with the usb drive ??
[07:45] <nprezident> ikonia and CarlFK thanx
[07:45] <CarlFK> antzlen1: unplug it
[07:45] <antzlen1> thr is no pendrive plugged in
[07:46] <chachan> guys, I have this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/777143
[07:46] <urlin2u> antzlen1, what is your native language?
[07:46] <chachan> I don't like to windows ask me for password
[07:46] <antzlen1> english u.s.
[07:46] <CarlFK> antzlen1: it was a possible problem: extra drives change the .. um.. boot order? something that can cause problems.
[07:46] <nprezident> can't be
[07:47] <chachan> any idea what I'm doing wrong or what I'm missing?
[07:47] <antzlen1> currently all drives are out
[07:47] <Jimmio> Hey all. How do I open the network configuration with super cow powers?
[07:48] <urlin2u> Jimmio, it will ask you for a password.
[07:48] <chachan> Jimmio: sudo nano /etc/network/interfaces
[07:49] <Jimmio> chachan: I meant the GUI utility.
[07:49] <Jimmio> For whatever reason, it won't let me set the DNS server.
[07:50] <urlin2u> Jimmio, I noticed that to edit you have to twice open the edit function from the NM gui.
[07:51] <urlin2u> Jimmio, 1st time password 2nd time for no greyed areas.
[07:51] <nate___> Hello
[07:51] <nate___> Can someone please help? I need to set up wireless internet
[07:52] <antzlen1> there??
[07:53] <urlin2u> antzlen1, did you change the hard drive order or remove any before this no boot happened?
[07:53] <Jimmio> ... Again, how do I open the network config with super user privileges from the terminal? What's the application's name?
[07:53] <TiMiDo> nate___, and what's stopping you?
[07:53] <TiMiDo> Jimmio, you mean network-manager?
[07:54] <antzlen1> i did nothing ...but my sys got sudden shutdowns 4 times due to a power faliure...after which this problem arose
[07:55] <TiMiDo> antzlen1, check you'r logs on /var/log
[07:55] <TiMiDo> to see what when wrong
[07:56] <urlin2u> !fsck
[07:56] <Jimmio> TiMiDo: Clicking the network connections thing at the top right in Unity.. Edit Connections..
[07:57] <TiMiDo> Jimmio, do it like this  sudo service network-manager restart
[07:57] <TiMiDo> and good to go
[07:58] <Jimmio> Why would I want to restart the network manager?
[07:58] <Jimmio> Technically, I'm helping someone over TeamViewer..
[07:58] <Jimmio> and it is just not cooperating.
[07:59] <TiMiDo> that's how you restart the network daemon ;)
[07:59] <Jimmio> I don't /want/ to do that.
[07:59] <Jimmio> I want to open the configuration dialog as a super user.
[08:00] <TiMiDo> oh ok then do it sudo nano /etc/networks
[08:00] <TiMiDo> or /etc/network
[08:00] <nate___> Hello, can anybone please help with activating wireless on Lubuntu?
[08:01] <RGYAH1> test
[08:01] <TiMiDo> nate___, to active wireless do sudo ifconfig wlan0 up if your drivers are successful install
[08:02] <urlin2u> nate___, run this and post your card an explain the problem. lspci | grep -i wireless
[08:03] <nate___> i ran ifconfig... it says ERROR while getting interface flag: no such device
[08:03] <nate___> but lshw says there is an intel pro wireless with a ipw2100 driver
[08:04] <Rezn0rNInchNails> hello. I have a problem with Oneiric Ocelot. My fglrx has stopped working and I am getting exactly the same error as this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1743783 Thanks in advance
[08:04] <RGYAH1> HAIL ! people of this channel !
[08:04] <RGYAH1> i come.. in peace!!
[08:04] <Corey> RGYAH1: Yay! Have a support question?
[08:06] <RGYAH1> is there a ported release of maxthon ?
[08:06] <Jimmio> Okay. Why can't I save the DNS server settings?
[08:07] <Jimmio> Save is grayed out
[08:07] <TiMiDo> Rezn0rNInchNails, amd 64 or intel x86?
[08:07] <Jimmio> Available to all users is grayed out
[08:07] <Rezn0rNInchNails> Amd64
[08:07] <TiMiDo> nate ask in the channel
[08:08] <TiMiDo> Rezn0rNInchNails, show me you'r uname -r
[08:08] <RGYAH1> things are very slow today
[08:08] <TiMiDo> to make sure you are behind amd 64
[08:08] <TiMiDo> yeah RGYAH1
[08:14] <nomnex> I have installed texlive-doc: how do I launch the help browser or consult the documentation?
[08:14] <TiMiDo> nomnex, sudo apt-get install dwww
[08:14] <TiMiDo> and then run localhost/dwww in you'r browser
[08:14] <TiMiDo> and you'll see all of your systems doc
[08:17] <nomnex> TiMiDo, great, but I am on Fedora ;)
[08:17] <TiMiDo> nomnex, then take it to #fedora
[08:17] <TiMiDo> ;)
[08:18] <nomnex> TiMiDo, 15 min. and no answer... the package name is the same. Do you use Texlive yourself?
[08:18] <TiMiDo> no i don't use texlive or search some where in fedora
[08:18] <TiMiDo> I'm sure there is forums for that
[08:19] <joco> heloooooooooooo
[08:19] <nomnex> sure, I will search for it, thanks
[08:19] <TiMiDo> no problem ;)
[08:19] <TiMiDo> hello joco
[08:19] <karl-augustt> hello joco
[08:20] <joco> kaj si be duki
[08:20] <TiMiDo> english please joco
[08:20] <joco> so zborvis
[08:20] <duki> toj neznajt
[08:20] <duki> makedonski
[08:20] <duki> angliski
[08:20] <duki> timido did you are good in english
[08:20] <duki> ?
[08:21] <TiMiDo> duki, that's why I'm here ;)
[08:21] <TiMiDo> cause i do speak English.
[08:21] <TiMiDo> duki, and please do not msg me
[08:22] <joco> ko ve jebe
[08:22] <duki> fuck you man
[08:22] <is_null> !kick duki
[08:23] <TiMiDo> lol shame on Him
[08:23] <Captain_Crow> TiMiDo, I just installed ubuntu 10.04 :D
[08:27] <e01> someone that try to install the pae kernel, and troubles?
[08:27] <e01> i just install it, and ubuntu won't boot with it
[08:29] <TIMiDo> now I'm back
[08:29] <TIMiDo> ;)
[08:35] <xosuitehearts> Is anyone online that is also a user of UbuntuForums.org
[08:35] <xosuitehearts> ?
[08:35] <ikonia> xosuitehearts: yes, why ?
[08:35] <xosuitehearts> I need help desperately with my external
[08:35] <xosuitehearts> the ntfs got corrupted during a freezing period
[08:35] <xosuitehearts> when copying files over
[08:35] <ikonia> what has that got to do with ubuntuforums.org ?
[08:36] <xosuitehearts> i posted something that explains my issue and I would like some feedback
[08:36] <xosuitehearts> help
[08:36] <xosuitehearts> of some sorty
[08:36] <xosuitehearts> sort*
[08:36] <FloodBot1> xosuitehearts: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:36] <Captain_Crow> does ubuntu 10.04 have the snap feature?
[08:37] <ikonia> then I'm sure someone on the forum will help - fixing ntfs partitions is best done within Windows
[08:37] <ikonia> Captain_Crow: as in disk snap ?
[08:37] <xosuitehearts> I dont have windows
[08:37] <ikonia> xosuitehearts: then why are you using ntfs
[08:37] <xosuitehearts> I need to do it thru linux
[08:37] <xosuitehearts> ikonia: its my external
[08:37] <Captain_Crow> i ment for thw windows
[08:37] <ikonia> xosuitehearts: then you should have windows
[08:37] <wolvii> hi
[08:37] <ikonia> xosuitehearts: or be using a native linux disk
[08:38] <Captain_Crow> like dragging a window to the top and having it auto-maximize
[08:38] <ikonia> xosuitehearts: however fixing ntfs is best done through windows.
[08:38] <ikonia> Captain_Crow: it used to have window snapping, I don't believe it's been removed
[08:38] <xosuitehearts> ikonia: ..... okay, well i dont have windows, thats why Im asking what I can do on ubuntu
[08:38] <jaffipaffi> When I write "pdftotext" it try to run /usr/local/bin/pdftotext, even though I've installed it under /usr/bin/pdftotext . How can I change that reference?
[08:38] <ikonia> xosuitehearts: take it to someone who does have windows - it's an external drive
[08:38] <Captain_Crow> how do i enable it?
[08:38] <ikonia> jaffipaffi: change your PATH varible
[08:38] <ikonia> jaffipaffi: PATH=$PATH:/usr/local/bin
[08:38] <xosuitehearts> ikonia: *facepalm* dude, this isnt any help.
[08:38] <TiMiDo> Captain_Crow, still with compiz?
[08:38] <TiMiDo> issues?
[08:39] <Captain_Crow> TiMiDo, idk yet, i just installed 10.04, im still updating
[08:39] <jaffipaffi> ikonia: But some stuff IS installed under /usr/local/bin?
[08:39] <almoxarife> Captain_Crow: is 'snap' a compiz option?
[08:39] <ikonia> jaffipaffi: I didn't say it wasn't
[08:40] <urlin2u> Captain_Crow, this what you want? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1472747
[08:40] <Captain_Crow> i think so "window snap" or something, i dont have compiz installed yet
[08:41] <almoxarife> Captain_Crow: thinking of installing so as to know?
[08:41] <Captain_Crow> almoxarife, huh?
[08:42] <zero> Hello, guys!
[08:43] <conntrack> Hi
[08:43] <urlin2u> Captain_Crow, if you look on the web with windows snap ubuntu or compiz snap ubuntu there are links to how to's
[08:43] <Guest83290> I don't want to be impolite. but it'd appreciate it a lot if anybody could give me some advice about how to learn python, like any books, or tools?
[08:44] <ikonia> Guest83290: join #python channel and ask
[08:44] <ikonia> Guest83290: also read the topic in #python
[08:44] <Guest83290> ikonia, okey...thanks
[08:44] <gribouille> will firefox 9 be available for oneiric?
[08:45] <TiMiDo> dumb wireless is acting up
[08:46] <almoxarife> Captain_Crow: from all the stuff you posted so far my impression is you want a desktop with lots of configuration options and bling, lets assume you are still in 11.10, install kde4 plasma-workspace, you can configure it till the cows come in, and the bling is the best
[08:46] <almoxarife> Captain_Crow: sort of compiz on steroids
[08:48] <almoxarife> TiMiDo: wireless should not act up, it should just work, unless the issue is the wireless server
[08:49] <conntrack> My connection issues are back. Think there is an ubuntu bug
[08:49] <TiMiDo> yeah there is conntrack
[08:49] <TiMiDo> ubuntu-bug
[08:49] <TiMiDo> to report any bugs
[08:50] <Captain_Crow> i just want standard bling(window snap+cube thingy from youtube vids) idc what version of ubuntu i run as long as its not glitchy, buggy, or over complicated
[08:50] <TiMiDo> Captain_Crow, dude what have you done so far?
[08:51] <Captain_Crow> i just installed 10.04 with updates and ccsm
[08:51] <TiMiDo> ok
[08:51] <Captain_Crow> i havent touched any settings yet, i was just about to try
[08:51] <TiMiDo> Captain_Crow, sudo apt-get install  compiz compizconfig-settings-manager  compiz-kde compiz-fusion-plugins-main compiz-fusion-plugins-extra  emerald librsvg2-common
[08:51] <ikonia> whoaaa
[08:52] <ikonia> Captain_Crow: do not do what TiMiDo has just said
[08:52] <ikonia> just ramming random stuff on top of unity and things like emerald is not a good idea
[08:52] <TiMiDo> sudo apt-get install compiz compizconfig-settings-manager
[08:52] <TiMiDo> i was using emerald
[08:52] <TiMiDo> and to be was stable
[08:52] <ikonia> Captain_Crow: do that at your risk
[08:53] <TiMiDo> or using gnome gtk-window-decorator --replace
[08:53] <almoxarife> TiMiDo: what version you using?
[08:54] <TiMiDo> right now I'm using testing
[08:54] <Captain_Crow> i just ran compiz on 10.04
[08:54] <Captain_Crow> my desktop didnt crash
[08:54] <TiMiDo> cool
[08:55] <Captain_Crow> how do i get the 3d cube though?
[08:55] <TiMiDo> with ccsm
[08:55] <Captain_Crow> its only semi-3d
[08:55] <TiMiDo> configure the cube with ccsm
[08:55] <Captain_Crow> what setting?
[08:55] <robinduckett> oh
[08:55] <robinduckett> you need 4 desktops
[08:55] <robinduckett> otherwise it won't be a cube lol
[08:55] <Captain_Crow> i have 4
[08:55] <robinduckett> default is like 2 in 10.04
[08:55] <llutz_> 6
[08:55] <robinduckett> llutz_: the top and bottom face are for slids
[08:56] <robinduckett> *slides
[08:56] <llutz_> robinduckett: stupid cube, cubes have 6 sides :)
[08:57] <Captain_Crow> how do i get the window switcher to work?
[08:57] <almoxarife> how do I see what is on the cube if all I can see is three faces at best?
[08:58] <conntrack> I'll test out the issue for the sake of testing it
[09:07] <chuckd2> Does anyone here know anything about testing for CO2
[09:07] <almoxarife> anyone else run a hybrid? gnome3/kd34 ??? I am not sure if the system apps which need to be running are in fact running, I am not using that much ram, I expected to need more for both, presently I log into the shell and its running at 390meg of ram, although that's a great number for starters, it seems low
[09:08] <au_fait> i dual boot
[09:09] <au_fait> but i get error suddenly "v"
[09:09] <au_fait> but i get error suddenly "Cannot find ang0 in all drives. Press Ctrl+Alt+Del to"
[09:09] <au_fait> it happened after windows did a damn update
[09:09] <au_fait> whsat is wrong
[09:09] <ikonia> au_fait: can you boot ubuntu ?
[09:09] <au_fait> no
[09:10] <au_fait> I can boot windows though
[09:10] <ikonia> au_fait: do you still get the grub menu ?
[09:10] <au_fait> no
[09:10] <ikonia> au_fait: ok - so where are you getting that error
[09:10] <au_fait> when I select ubuntu from windows multi boot menu
[09:11] <au_fait> windows just ran an uipdate
[09:11] <almoxarife> au_fait: a wubi install?
[09:11] <au_fait> nope, native into partition
[09:11] <ikonia> au_fait: then why are you using the windows boot loader not grub
[09:11] <nate___> Hey guys, I was wondering if I could get some help: I loaded Lubuntu onto a desktop, and everything worked fine, so I loaded it onto a laptop, and it worked fine except for the wireless internet: the computer recognises it as an Intel Pro wireless 2100 with an ipw2100 driver, but it doesnt connect to the internet. A lshw -C network shows that the wirrless is DISABLED, and the network configuration in the menu shows that wireless is d
[09:11] <ikonia> au_fait: that suggests you have a none standard install that you have setup
[09:12] <ikonia> au_fait: the ubuntu installer would install grub onto the mbr, yet you are using the Windows boot loader.
[09:13] <nate___> someone?
[09:13] <Snowie> hi all. somehow i seem to have enabled "roll up on dbl click" for windows instead of maximise. 11.10 Unity. cant for the life of me find how to change this any longer. any help/
[09:15] <chuckd2> /dns vpn.supersonicimagine.fr
[09:15] <au_fait> roh
[09:15] <TiMiDo> there we go
[09:15] <TiMiDo> i hope now i stay connect it
[09:15] <TiMiDo> ;P
[09:15] <chuckd2> What is .mm
[09:16] <ikonia> au_fait: ?
[09:16] <tstaerk> Hi, how can I bring my software into Ubuntu Software Center?
[09:16] <ikonia> tstaerk: which software ?
[09:16] <tstaerk> e.g. ktimetracker
[09:16] <ikonia> tstaerk: have you installed it yet ?
[09:16] <tstaerk> yes
[09:16] <ikonia> tstaerk: how did you install it ?
[09:16] <chuckd2> it's myanmar
[09:16] <TiMiDo> tstaerk, upload it via launchpad ;)
[09:16] <chuckd2> nevermind
[09:17] <tstaerk> ikonia: I wrote it, compiled it, linked it and installed it with make install
[09:17] <ikonia> tstaerk: then you can't do it - you need to package it in ubuntu, host it in a repository (or get it into the ubuntu repositories)
[09:18] <karl-augustt> someone can inform me the date of next world meeting for free software over
[09:18] <chuckd2> whois -h whois.apnic.net 203.81.160.0
[09:18] <ikonia> tstaerk: software center only looks at ubuntu deb packages, in the correct format, and only at repos that are configured
[09:18] <chuckd2> >  :  k  `  2  -  (  I  I  ^  E  c  :  !  U  d  S  C  ~    o  |  D  d    3    2    -  E    @    *  ;  )  .  t    P  u    o  O  s  H  {  o  9  =
[09:18] <karl-augustt> someone can inform me the date of next world meeting for free software over
[09:18] <ikonia> chuckd2: can you stop that
[09:18] <au_fait> I am using jwindow boot loader
[09:18] <au_fait> I just reran EasyBCD again
[09:18] <chuckd2> u     >  e  K
[09:18] <ikonia> chuckd2: you are in irc - typing config commands is not useful
[09:18] <au_fait> maybe that correct
[09:18] <tstaerk> ikonia: ok, so I build whatever.deb first
[09:18] <chuckd2> I'm thinkin' about reggity diggal... I'm thinking about reggity dickhole!  I'm thinkin' about reggity diggal... I'm thinking about reggity dickhole!  I'm thinking about jeggity jibbers
[09:18] <xosuitehearts> Can someone PLEASE help me with my Harddrive? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sC32AKsAF-Y
[09:18] <ikonia> tstaerk: let me send you a link
[09:18] <chuckd2> Shnebbity shnub up bam bam.  Ar cor you insufferable menace, ar cor waal wheel woal.  Ee buff day I'd say.
[09:18] <Gav321> Hi guys, I was in the terminal, and my rfkill list simply outputted command not found, any tips?
[09:18] <ikonia> xosuitehearts: use windows to repair ntfs
[09:18] <chuckd2> When I'm thinkin about the greg nargs, I'm thinkin about you!  I'm thinkin about the greg nargs, I'm thinkin about you!  When I'm thinkin about the greg nargs, I'm thinkin about you!  When I'm thinkin about the greg nargs, I'm thinkin about you!  When I'm thinkin about the greg nargs, I'm thinkin about you!  When I'm thinkin about the greg nargs, I'm thinkin about you!
[09:18] <xosuitehearts> please watch the video to see what is going on
[09:19] <au_fait> now aint shit working
[09:19] <xosuitehearts> ikonia: I DONT HAVE WINDOWS
[09:19] <au_fait> not even windows
[09:19] <chuckd2> Hey
[09:19] <chuckd2> What was that for
[09:19] <ikonia> xosuitehearts: it's an external drive - take it to someone with windows to use the tools
[09:19] <chuckd2> damn greg nargs
[09:19] <chuckd2>      â       ááááááááááááááááá
[09:19] <chuckd2>      â       á                ááá       ææææ
[09:19] <llutz_> xosuitehearts: you can try to use ntfsfix, but most likely you will need a windows to repair your fs
[09:19] <ikonia> au_fait: tone down the language, - it sounds like your boot loader is miss confiured
[09:19] <FloodBot1> chuckd2: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:19] <chuckd2>      â        á                  á   æææ   æ
[09:19] <tstaerk> chuckd2: stop this now please
[09:19] <xosuitehearts> ikonia: but its not just windows
[09:19] <TiMiDo> he's out ;)
[09:19] <xosuitehearts> ikonia: its not just the hdd
[09:19] <ikonia> xosuitehearts: you said it was the ntfs external hard disk
[09:20] <xosuitehearts> ikonia: for some reason my external is mounting in 2 points
[09:20] <ikonia> xosuitehearts: possibly due to the corruption you mentioned earlier
[09:20] <au_fait> my boot is all fubi
[09:20] <xosuitehearts> ikonia: http://ubuntuforums.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=209477&d=1324456941
[09:20] <xosuitehearts> theres a picture
[09:20] <karl-augustt> someone can inform me the date of next world meeting for free software over
[09:20] <ikonia> xosuitehearts: don't want a picture,
[09:20] <au_fait> gtrr suvkds
[09:20] <Snowie> can anyone tell me where the old "window management" tools are in the new unity interface
[09:20] <au_fait> free is not that great
[09:20] <ikonia> au_fait: stop - we don't need a running commentory
[09:20] <au_fait> free is for the poor
[09:20] <xosuitehearts> ikonia: look at it, im showing you my issue
[09:21] <xosuitehearts> ikonia: its not just the external
[09:21] <au_fait> ikonia,  ok, I shall haltz
[09:21] <karl-augustt> someone can inform me the date of next world meeting for free software over
[09:21] <tstaerk> karl-augustt: over what?
[09:22] <ikonia> xosuitehearts: why is that an issue ?
[09:22] <au_fait> tstaerk, i think he want to know when it is ocver so he ca enjoy himself
[09:22] <TiMiDo> karl-augustt, huh?
[09:22] <xosuitehearts> ikonia: are you trolling me or something? I HAVE AN EXTRA DRIVE MOUNTED THAT DOESNT NEED TO BE
[09:22] <xosuitehearts> ikonia: its the same drive
[09:22] <karl-augustt> I'm just speak about the world meeting about free software in the world
[09:22] <xosuitehearts> ikonia: i already ran ntfsfix
[09:22] <ikonia> karl-augustt: not in here you don't
[09:22] <karl-augustt> last meeting took effect
[09:23] <tstaerk> karl-augustt: you are welcome to speak about any meeting
[09:23] <ikonia> xosuitehearts: I told you - don't fix ntfs in Linux
[09:23] <au_fait> I will help hin
[09:23] <ikonia> karl-augustt: please stop, this channels topic is ubuntu support only
[09:23] <ikonia> karl-augustt: please keep to that topic in this channel
[09:23] <ManDay> Does anyone know why onBoard (on screen keyboard) always ignores what settings I make and also, the "Settings" button is grayed out?!
[09:23] <karl-augustt> ok
[09:23] <au_fait> karl-august message me for help on that
[09:24] <vanthuong> vnvc
[09:24] <vanthuong> ds
[09:25] <xosuitehearts> ikonia: ok. thanks for all the help. ill be sure to tell the other people in the irc how absolutely unhelpful your advice was and how uncooperative you were in helping me in something so simple as clicking a link to see my issue
[09:25] <ikonia> xosuitehearts: I've seen the image
[09:25] <ikonia> xosuitehearts: it shows nothing, no detail just a box with a disk and a red ring around it
[09:25] <au_fait> karl-augustt, teamserver is free
[09:25] <au_fait> try that
[09:25] <xosuitehearts> ikonia: you must've not see what I was saying about it being a duplicate
[09:26] <xosuitehearts> I fixed my drive
[09:26] <xosuitehearts> ikonia: its not letting me unmount the extra drive
[09:26] <ikonia> xosuitehearts: is this the internal or the external drive ?
[09:26] <xosuitehearts> ikonia: external
[09:26] <au_fait> you can have virutal meetings but I dont know if it works on ubuntu
[09:26] <ikonia> xosuitehearts: right - so why when I asked about the external, you said "it's not just the external" - it IS the external drive
[09:26] <ikonia> xosuitehearts: start giving details - proper details rather than just saying things
[09:27] <ikonia> xosuitehearts: is your problem with the external drive - or all drives
[09:27] <xosuitehearts> ikonia: you're telling me to use windows like I have the option
[09:27] <xosuitehearts> ikonia: whatever man.
[09:27] <ikonia> xosuitehearts: if you don't have windows - why are you using ntfs ?
[09:27] <ikonia> xosuitehearts: why are you not using native Linux file systems ?
[09:27] <xosuitehearts> ikonia: thanks for being so dense
[09:27] <xosuitehearts> bye
[09:28] <mysteriousdarren> chill peeps, I use NTFS so I can use it with Windows too.
[09:29] <Neo-triX> hi all
[09:29] <mysteriousdarren> I'd gladly use native but ext4 doesn't talk to Windows :(
[09:29] <democrezy> I am new to Ubuntu. Can anybody tell where software center store files temporarily while installing? Thanks in advance.
[09:30] <akem> probably /tmp and/or /var/cache/something
[09:30] <au_fait> karl-augustt, did you get that? do you need URL for teamserver?
[09:31] <hari_> how can i set tally data path with tally runniing on windows server
[09:31] <ikonia> tally ?
[09:31] <au_fait> byte the wait, I fixed my ubuntu
[09:31] <hari_> accounting software india
[09:32] <ikonia> hari_: is it Linux software ?
[09:32] <Neo-triX> any one ken help me to install neostats for my server
[09:32] <hari_> no
[09:32] <au_fait> I try  to help karl but he will not cooperate
[09:32] <ikonia> hari_: ok - so you know you are in #ubuntu which is for Ubuntu Linux support
[09:32] <hari_> runnig with wine
[09:32] <ikonia> hari_: have you tried #windows-server
[09:32] <ikonia> au_fait: we don't need a running commentory
[09:33] <hari_> i am using ubuntu
[09:33] <au_fait> is ikonia a bot? fix it because it keeps repeating useless jibberiosh
[09:33] <ikonia> hari_: never used it, never used it in Wine - the guys in #winehq may be able to help
[09:33] <ikonia> au_fait: no, it keeps asking you to keep with the topic and stop the running commentory on what you are doing
[09:34] <au_fait> ikonia, u dont like to help peop0le?
[09:34] <ikonia> au_fait: as you can see, I'm supporting quite a few people at the moment
[09:34] <llutz_> au_fait: we don't like spammers and trolls here, pls stop your chatter
[09:34] <au_fait> that why can't i help out karl without you making a fus>
[09:35] <ikonia> au_fait: you can help karl out, but he doesn't seem to want your help, hence not responding, so it's best you stop
[09:35] <au_fait> also, I figured out why my ubuntu went bad but you have me afraid to share the problem
[09:36] <ikonia> au_fait: your problem is not relevent to this channel
[09:36] <ikonia> au_fait: you are using a 3rd party boot loader, that you had a problem with
[09:36] <au_fait> no, that was not the problem.
[09:36] <au_fait> the problem was that it did not have enough space to do a successful hiberation
[09:37] <au_fait> I think the swap needs to be bigger for it to hibernate properly
[09:37] <ikonia> au_fait: so you are suggesting a boot failure of both windows and Linux using easy boot CD after a windows update was because of a lack of hibernation space ?
[09:38] <au_fait> well, the windows boot failure was strictly mty fault
[09:39] <au_fait> ikonia,  can I ask you question?
[09:39] <ikonia> au_fait: if it's about ubuntu, sure
[09:39] <au_fait> it is a general question
[09:39] <au_fait> so nevermind
[09:39] <democrezy> Thanks akem
[09:39] <ikonia> ok
[09:40] <akem> np
[09:44] <au_fait> i am afriad to be here because i dont want ikonia yo bully ban me
[09:44] <ikonia> au_fait: you are not going to get banned
[09:44] <ikonia> au_fait: as long as you are talking about ubuntu support discussion, there is zero issue
[09:44] <SunTsu> .o0( Trolly Wednesday? )
[09:44] <dr_willis_> theres always the ifftopic channal
[09:44] <conntrack> lol
[09:45] <TiMiDo> yeah #ubuntu-offtopic
[09:45] <TiMiDo> ;)
[09:47] <mcsmurf> hi, is it possible to install a newer libc6 than shipped on Ubuntu 10.04 or would I likely end up with a broken system :O? problem is I need glibc 2.14 for a program
[09:47] <ikonia> mcsmurf: don't swap libc
[09:47] <mcsmurf> I've read glibc is backwards compatible, but only if same compile options and so are used
[09:47] <mcsmurf> ok
[09:47] <SunTsu> mcsmurf: messing with glibc can result in very bad things happening
[09:48] <dr_willis> sort of like a spine transplant.. :)
[09:49] <mah454> i can not fully install samba4 in ubuntu !
[09:50] <mah454> receive this message :      ProvisioningError: guess_names: 'realm =' was not specified in supplied /etc/samba/smb.conf.  Please remove the smb.conf file and let provision generate it
[09:50] <Jordan_U> mcsmurf: If you want to try something difficult but completely safe you can create a chroot based on a newer version of Ubuntu.
[09:50] <mcsmurf> Jordan_U: good idea, I'll try that
[09:51] <mcsmurf> why do those software vendors compile against latest glibc anyway ;-)
[09:51] <ActionParsnip> mah454: why are you using samba4?
[09:51] <mcsmurf> not that many distributions already have glibc 2.14...
[09:51] <mcsmurf> afaik
[09:52] <mah454> ActionParsnip, what ? have samba 3 in repository ?
[09:52] <ActionParsnip> mah454: you'll probably find samba does what you need.
[09:53] <ActionParsnip> !info samba
[09:53] <MooseRFun> anyone have any idea why this upstart script won't run on startup? http://paste.ubuntu.com/777207/
[09:53] <mah454> ok
[09:54] <TiMiDo> https://launchpad.net/bugs/907227
[09:54] <TiMiDo> read about that bug number :)
[09:57] <ActionParsnip> TiMiDo: yep, that the bug i reported about 30 mins ago and is in precise which is offtopic here
[09:57] <TiMiDo> yeah i know ;)
[09:58] <e01> someone that try to install the pae kernel, and troubles? i just install it, and ubuntu won't boot with it
[09:59] <llutz_> e01: and the error is...?
[10:01] <e01> llutz_, there is no error, just a blank screen and not responsitive keyboard
[10:01] <e01> with default kernel (not pae) all working with pae don't work
[10:08] <faint545> anyone know how i can fix my clock text?? http://i44.tinypic.com/wlx65c.png i have a custom bg for my panel
[10:08] <TiMiDo> faint545, right click on the clock ;)
[10:08] <TiMiDo> and edit it
[10:08] <TiMiDo> and you're good
[10:09] <faint545> TiMiDo, ?? doesnt work like that for Ubuntu 10.10
[10:09] <TiMiDo> it should look right click on the clock and see if you have an option to change the design of it
[10:09] <dr_willis> hmm. not all processors support pae.
[10:10] <TiMiDo> tell me about it i was having issues with hp 620
[10:10] <faint545> TiMiDo, all there is, is preferences and that allows you to change the format of the time displayed, like display seconds or whatever
[10:10] <TiMiDo> faint545, so what's your question to change the time?
[10:11] <TiMiDo> is that what you are asking?
[10:11] <faint545> TiMiDo, the picture link i posted.... http://i44.tinypic.com/wlx65c.png the clock text is all messed up
[10:11] <dr_willis> i just use 64 bit os on any hardware igot rgat us 64 bit. i dud see a 32 but install default to using pae on 64 bit hardware with 8gb ram
[10:12] <faint545> TiMiDo, i used these directions to get a custom background for my panel.. http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/02/gnome-panel-transparency-fix-ubuntu/
[10:12] <TiMiDo> let me take a look at it
[10:12] <faint545> TiMiDo, and after that, the clock looks like crap.
[10:13] <TiMiDo> then open it back up
[10:13] <TiMiDo> and edit where you edit the file.
[10:13] <TiMiDo> gksu gedit /usr/share/themes/Ambiance/gtk-2.0/gtkrc
[10:14] <Inu_Kun> Hey all.
[10:14] <faint545> TiMiDo, so r u saying to undo my changes? i dont want to do that
[10:15] <TiMiDo> yeah faint545
[10:15] <Inu_Kun> I was wandering if there was a way to get the old menubar and dock back?
[10:16] <airtonix> use gnome-shell fallback mode
[10:16] <faint545> TiMiDo, that isnt my goal
[10:16] <Inu_Kun> Ahh k, I liked the menu bar better then the bock having a fake startmenu
[10:16] <TiMiDo> faint545, if you're goal is something else try reading some gtk tutorial for themes and much more.
[10:17] <Vardsy> Hi, I have a problem with Ubuntu 10.10 audio on my Media Centre that is really bizarre!
[10:18] <airtonix> i'm sure there is a scientific explanation for it, thus rendering it non bizarre
[10:18] <Vardsy> touche..
[10:19] <Vardsy> I have to constantly go back to my audio profile in between every media file I open otherwise Audio won't work, I switch it to 5.1 is works
[10:19] <TiMiDo> Vardsy, what sound card are you using?
[10:19] <TiMiDo> and are you using alsa or eog?
[10:19] <Vardsy> open a new video file, sound is gone, go into Audio / Profiles switch from 5.1 to something else and then back to 5.1 and it works again  ?
[10:20] <Vardsy> Audigy Soundblaster so I think Alsa ?
[10:20] <TiMiDo> Vardsy, you think?
[10:20] <Inu_Kun> Aairtoni, the fall back mode isn't what i had in mind. I'm talking about the applications and menus at the top with the dock at the bottom, I've been trying to find a way to fix it using the themes and appearance managers but to no luck. I know they changed Fadora to be more like this too but I liked the old way like fadora 13
[10:21] <TiMiDo> Vardsy, can you open up alsamixer?
[10:21] <jutnux> Do you want Gnome 2 back Inu_Kun?
[10:21] <TiMiDo> in a terminal?
[10:21] <Inu_Kun> Yes please ju
[10:22] <Vardsy> I don't think I have it installed - that a problem /
[10:22] <karl-augustt> Vardsy, explain more your problem
[10:22] <Vardsy> Sorry I have only switched to Linux in the last year or so, I am a bit green..
[10:22] <jutnux> Inu_Kun: There is no way as of yet to get Gnome 2 completely back on Ubuntu. However you can install XFCE which is a graphical desktop environment. It looks a bit like Gnome 2, I will take a screenshot for you.
[10:22] <TiMiDo> Vardsy, then install it ;)
[10:22] <TiMiDo> Vardsy, sudo aplay -l
[10:22] <TiMiDo> do you get any output?
[10:23] <Vardsy> Kids are watching Jumanji on it at the moment, will kick them off for a sec, brb
[10:23] <Inu_Kun> Sounds interesting. I would like to see it very much. How do you stop fallback mode?
[10:23] <jutnux> Inu_Kun: Just switch to a different desktop environment when you login using the cog.
[10:24] <karl-augustt> keep kids out of your comput, and be ready to answer!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[10:24] <karl-augustt> Vardsy , keep kids out of your comput, and be ready to answer!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[10:24] <jutnux> Jutnux: http://ompldr.org/vYnVncQ
[10:24] <TiMiDo> karl-augustt, stop repeating ;)
[10:24] <jutnux> That is what XFCE looks like, however on Ubuntu it'll be a bit different.
[10:25] <karl-augustt> no problem
[10:25] <minimec> Inu_Kun: There is a tutorial for a gnome2 'look and feel' with the gnome3 gnome-panel. I used this and I am happy with it. http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/12/how-to-make-ubuntu-11-10-look-and-feel-like-gnome-2/
[10:25] <ChristW_> Can I ask a 'Make' question here, or is there a more on topic channel?
[10:25] <TiMiDo> ChristW_, depending on you're question
[10:26] <karl-augustt> TiMiDo , are you Linux professionnel?
[10:26] <ChristW_> I have a target with a semicolon (;) in the file name. Make seems to split at that point: make: *** No rule to make target `/home/christ/Desktop/Parallels Shared Folders/MP3/Genesis/Invisible Touch/06\. Domino \(Part One - In The Glow Of The Night'. In the target, there is a ; and the rest of the file name.
[10:26] <jutnux> minimec: Fallback is going to be removed soon. It's only there for hardware that doesn't support Unity.
[10:27] <karl-augustt> if , yes , which level,, Junior, Advanced, or Senior?
[10:27] <TiMiDo> karl-augustt, i been working with Linux a lot of years. and now I'm working with 100 % of Linux servers
[10:27] <ikonia> ChristW_: what the deveil are you trying to do ?
[10:27] <jutnux> ChristW_: Put speech marks("") around the file name. So it'll be "/home/christ/Desktop/therest
[10:27] <karl-augustt> ok
[10:27] <ChristW_> jutnux: Ok.
[10:27] <dr_willis>  ; is legal in a filename? never noticed
[10:28] <karl-augustt> where is your site?
[10:28] <minimec> jutnux: I guess the gnome-panel will continue to exist. I use it in combination with the e17 window-manager.
[10:28] <ChristW_> ikonia: Create .m4a files from the flac files that I have.
[10:28] <llutz_> !ot | karl-augustt
[10:28] <harsh343> how can i change the folder name in ubuntu
[10:28] <harsh343> ?
[10:28] <Vardsy> @karl-augustt - sorry dude
[10:28] <harsh343> through command
[10:28] <llutz_> harsh343: mv folder newfoldername
[10:28] <kutumaleo> hello ppl
[10:29] <harsh343> ok
[10:29] <airtonix> harsh343: select folder in file manager, press f2... ??? profit.
[10:29] <TiMiDo> there it is karl-augustt
[10:29] <TiMiDo> ;)
[10:29] <ChristW_> ikonia: I ripped all my CDs to .flac files (on a NAS), and am creating m4a files so that Spotify can sync them to my iPod.
[10:29] <harsh343> airtonix, i want to do in remote server
[10:29] <karl-augustt> TiMiDo,  I 'm thinking about something I want to share with you
[10:29] <airtonix> harsh343: the same way you change folder names in windows
[10:29] <TiMiDo> msg me
[10:29] <airtonix> harsh343: then instead of asking vague questions.... be specific
[10:30] <harsh343> yes i know that but the case is different in remote server
[10:30] <harsh343> ok
[10:30] <Vardsy> Ok ran aplay -l
[10:30] <jutnux> airtoniharsh323: In the command line: mv foldername newdestination
[10:30] <Vardsy> do I post result here?
[10:30] <karl-augustt> ok , wait a minute
[10:30] <harsh343> I do not know throught command line thats why i ask
[10:30] <TiMiDo> no Vardsy
[10:30] <jutnux> Woops
[10:30] <TiMiDo> !paste
[10:30] <harsh343> or nothing else
[10:30] <airtonix> harsh343: your initial question is on a desktop orientated channel. think about it.
[10:30] <jutnux> airtonix: rm -rf foldername
[10:30] <AceKing> I'm not sure if anyone was able to help me with my slow internet problem. After I asked the question my connection froze and kicked me offline. I was on as ace_
[10:30] <jutnux> Damnit, sorry for the false ping.
[10:30] <Vardsy> didn't think so :)
[10:30] <harsh343> airtonix, ok
[10:31] <kutumaleo> maybe someone can help me...i m having reception errors and collisions...what s that?
[10:31] <TiMiDo> AceKing, wireless problem?
[10:31] <jutnux> AceKing: We cannot help you with your connection as it is probably a problem with the connection itself.
[10:32] <travelthemean> command to rename is just rename
[10:32] <taffflash> sup al
[10:32] <taffflash> all even lol
[10:33] <Vardsy> TiMiDo is there something from the output of that command that might give me a clue to this audio profile problem  ?
[10:33] <TiMiDo> Vardsy, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting
[10:33] <deitarion> What channel would be most appropriate for help either building an okular-extra-backends with CHM support from source or pulling in just that one package from Debian Experimental?
[10:33] <AceKing> jutnux, it is not a problem with my connection. TiMiDo, it is wired
[10:33] <AceKing> jutnux, it runs fine in Windows
[10:33] <democrezy> I am new to ubuntu. It is very unstable on my PC.Unstable means When i do something like apply effect in compiz, system hangs ie no response when i change screen resolution it doesnot display properly.i have to restart pc . It hangs for some time in between firefox and today when i open downloads window, title bar of all windows became invisible .I had  install compiz about a month ago, at that time it was not running and yesterday i was able to run i
[10:33] <democrezy> . Can anyone tell why is this happening and how to cure it. I have core i3 2100 sandybridge, 4GB ram, Intel DH61 Motherboard, inbuilt Intel HD 2000 graphics and have allocated 2GB swap to ubuntu.
[10:34] <TiMiDo> AceKing, which drivers are you using?
[10:35] <deitarion> democrezy: I'm no expert, but that sounds like buggy video drivers. See if the problem goes away when you switch off Compiz.
[10:35] <Vardsy> Cheers @ TiMiDo, hadn't come across that one, I will go through it
[10:35] <taffflash> good morning guys Im new to Ubuntu and I just taken win 7 off this pc and going to just use this Os on my pc.
[10:35] <TiMiDo> Vardsy, did it work/
[10:35] <TiMiDo> :)
[10:35] <ServerSage> taffflash: Congrats.
[10:35] <jutnux> taffflash: You've made the right choice moving away from M$
[10:36] <taffflash> So im just doing the updates now but I might have a issue with some drivers
[10:36] <ServerSage> taffflash: Whats not working?
[10:36] <democrezy> deitarion: ithese problems were even before installing compiz.
[10:36] <taffflash> I got an ati card and there is a issue with them is there?
[10:36] <jutnux> No.
[10:36] <harsh343> llutz, works thanks
[10:36] <ServerSage> taffflash: Nope, should work.
[10:37] <taffflash> I did have mint installed but it was crashing my pc
[10:37] <taffflash> I hope this dont
[10:37] <travelthemean> i believe the word on the street is there is an ati issue with their drivers
[10:37] <deitarion> democrezy: Hmm. Could still be buggy drivers. I've heard that drivers for some Intel GPUs can be finicky, though the drivers for my mother's laptop settled down about a year ago, so I stopped keeping up on that.
[10:38] <taffflash> at the top on the taskbar it is showing a driver icon
[10:38] <taffflash> im new to all this what do i do please?
[10:39] <ServerSage> taffflash: Click on it?  :)
[10:39] <ace_> TiMiDo, I am using the latest Nvidia driver
[10:40] <TiMiDo> oh
[10:40] <Vardsy> Not sure yet TiMiDo, just having a read then I will move out to the lounge to check on the sound modules etc
[10:40] <minimec> taffflash: There are two possibilities with ATI cards. With newer cards you would have the option to use the opensource or the ATI closed source driver. Older cards only work with the opensource driver. Check 'system settings' 'additional drivers'. If you see the ATI driver, you got a 'new' card with both options
[10:40] <democrezy> :deitarion:Thanks for response, earlier i use 9.04 and then 11.04,both were unstable. Now i have 11.10 64 bit which is better but not upto the mark.
[10:40] <taffflash> ok i have and it is giving me two to pick from. one is Post release update and the other one isn't. what one do i need?
[10:40] <TiMiDo> let me know Vardsy
[10:40] <kutumaleo> maybe someone can help me...i m having reception errors and collisions...what s that?
[10:40] <ace_> TiMiDo, I had to sign on from my laptop because it takes about 2 minutes to for xchat to catch up
[10:41] <Vardsy> and this is why I switched to Linux :)
[10:41] <deitarion> democrezy: One of the reasons I suspect it might be buggy drivers is that you said your titlebars vanished once. That meant that the window decorations crashed and, while I use nVidia, it's been my experience that vanishing titlebars means something crashed Compiz's window decorator.
[10:42] <deitarion> ...and I almost never see non-compositing window managers crash since there's much less to go wrong.
[10:42] <ace_> Ever since Unity, nothing has been working correctly on any of my installs
[10:43] <taffflash> minimec: that is right I can pick two?
[10:44] <taffflash> what one should I go for ?
[10:44] <taffflash> one is Post release update and the other one isn't.
[10:44] <Vardsy> democrezy: When I was using Linux Mint 11 I had to roll back Compiz to the stable version, 0.8 I think ?
[10:45] <Vardsy> Compiz would freeze up, not display properly etc even though I had good hardware
[10:45] <democrezy> deitarion: yeah, pretty solid reason. But how to solve this? how can i upgrade video drivers? My graphics card is strong enough to handle visual elements of ubuntu(inbuilt 1.5 GB
[10:46] <ace_> I was having different problems with my ATI gfx card last week, and someone suggested that I buy an Nvidia card. Now I'm having different problems and no one seems to be able to help
[10:46] <democrezy> thanks vardesy for support, but can u explain further?
[10:47] <minimec> taffflash: Well by default, the opensource driver should be active. Now you can try the other options. If you are not happy with these, you can remove them again and use the opensource driver. Try the post release one. That is probably the newest version.
[10:47] <Hordeking> Question: I've managed to add a couple of launcher icons to the panel, but when I right click them, I only get a choice of launch or properties, but no delete. How do I delete them?
[10:47] <mohammad> salam
[10:47] <taffflash> minimec: Ok thanks fingers cross lol
[10:47] <democrezy> salam
[10:47] <minimec> taffflash: ;)
[10:48] <taffflash> downloading and installing now
[10:48] <taffflash> I dont know if I can get used to this bar on the left hand side lol
[10:48] <Captain_Crow> how do i set the cube caps?
[10:48] <Hordeking> How do I unlock the launcher bar so I can edit it?
[10:48] <vlt> Hello. What is the most elegant way to run a daemonized headless OpenOffice.org instance on every boot?
[10:50] <democrezy> Hordeking: cick on icon and uncheck keep in launcher. Icon will be removed.
[10:50] <ServerSage> vlt: I thought I saw a service init.d script somewhere.  Have you googled it?
[10:50] <democrezy> Hordeking: sorry i mean right click
[10:51] <taffflash> Sorry, the installation of this driver failed.
[10:51] <taffflash> Please have a look at the log file for details: /var/log/jockey.log
[10:51] <taffflash> any help please guys?
[10:51] <ServerSage> taffflash: What does the log say?
[10:51] <taffflash> I dont know how to find it im a noob to linux lol
[10:52] <Hordeking> democrezy: There isn't anything to uncheck.
[10:52] <ace_> So does anyone have a clue where a good start point would be to diagnose my problem?
[10:52] <minimec> taffflash: open a terminal and do gedit /var/log/jockey.log to see the log file. You might want to try to install the other driver option, if that one is not installing ;)
[10:52] <SunTsu> taffflash: you don't know how to find /var/log/jockey.log?
[10:52] <ServerSage> taffflash: The path is /var/log/jockey.log, open it with an editor.
[10:52] <vlt> ServerSage: Haven't yet. Is there a pkg I can install that ships this init.d script?
[10:52] <Hordeking> democrezy: I only have the option to "Launch" or "Properties"
[10:54] <SunTsu> ace_: I don't even see what your problem is exactly, did you tell us? My logfile doesn't have anything during the last hour
[10:54] <ServerSage> vlt: Not that I know of, though I honestly haven't done headless OO in over a year.
[10:54] <taffflash> Where do I find the terminal? lol
[10:54] <ace_> SunTsu, I was under AceKing, but my internet connection froze which is my problem
[10:55] <democrezy> Hordeking: i am also new to ubuntu. i have never faced this problm. Someone else may solve ur prob.
[10:55] <SunTsu> taffflash: just start an editor from the menu. And please stop adding "lol" to everything you write
[10:55] <ServerSage> taffflash: Really?
[10:55] <minimec> taffflash: press the 'win' button and type Term... in the bar.
[10:55] <Captain_Crow> how do i put caps on the cube?
[10:56] <taffflash> ok I got the jockey log now
[10:56] <taffflash> what you want me to do with it ?
[10:56] <SunTsu> ace_: please tell us more about your problem, like what nic do you use, what kind of internet connection do you have, and so on
[10:56] <ace_> SunTsu, I have a super slow connection on my PC which is wired. I have the lastest Nvidia driver installed, and no other proprietary drivers are showing up
[10:57] <SunTsu> taffflash: we don't want you to do anything with it. It's your problem after all. Your command told you to read it, so that might be a start
[10:57] <gribouille> how can I disable appaormor?
[10:57] <gribouille> how can I disable apparmor?
[10:57] <Hordeking> democrezy: I discovered it! You have to Alt-RightClick the icon to get the "Remove option"
[10:57] <ServerSage> taffflash: Do you have any experience logically thinking through a problem and solving it?
[10:57] <minimec> taffflash: The log would give you some hints, why the installation failed. Why don't you try to install the other driver otpion you had with 'additional drivers'?
[10:58] <SunTsu> ace_: wired means what? 100mbit, 1Gbit, do you use pppoe or what. Please stop this guessing game and start to tell us the whole story
[10:58] <ace_> SunTsu, I built a new PC a couple of weeks ago, I am dual booting with Windows 7, where my internet connetion is working fine. My hardware is: Asus M5A97 EVO motherboard,
[10:58] <ace_> SunTsu, I did tell the story before
[10:58] <ace_> It's a lot to typ[e
[10:58] <taffflash> why the flaming? I been trying to sort this issue out for a whole day yesterday when I had mint on it
[10:59] <taffflash> like i said im new to this and been looking into it
[10:59] <SunTsu> ace_: if you don't want to do the work of typing nobody here wants to do the work of helping and typing
[10:59] <ace_> SunTsu, What are  you talking about?????? I am trying
[10:59] <SunTsu> taffflash: nobody is flaming you. If we were you'd know
[11:00] <SunTsu> ace_: OK, good luck in getting help, I'm out
[11:00] <ServerSage> taffflash: No flaming going on, just pointing out that the error message told you exactly what to do.
[11:00] <ace_> SunTsu, Let me start from the beginning.. I am sorry I sound ignorant to you, but that's what I used to love about Ubuntu, everyone was very helpful
[11:01] <taffflash> Ok
[11:01] <ServerSage> ace_: The problem is you gave details that had nothing to do with the problem you mentioned.  A slow internet connection probably has nothing to do with your nvidia drivers.
[11:01] <ServerSage> ace_: So what exactly is happening?
[11:01] <SunTsu> ace_: nobody is able to help if you don't even answer questions and answer requests to more details with "it's a lot of typing"
[11:02] <taffflash> I have the jockey .log open and there is a issue with these crappy fglrx drivers again it seems
[11:02] <travelthemean> taffflash: I had the same problems. I think the proprietary drivers have bugs. Unfortunately that means waiting for ati to fix. You can still use the free drivers (you probably have them installed already)
[11:02] <ace_> ServerSage, The reason why I mentioned the nvidia drivers is because someone mentioned that to me yesterday
[11:02] <ServerSage> ace_: Yup, what SunTsu just said.  It's like saying, "My car isn't running, but it has red interior".
[11:02] <SunTsu> taffflash: maybe you could paste the last 20 to 50 lines to some nopaste service so we can check it out
[11:03] <ServerSage> ace_: You still haven't answered *what* is happening.
[11:03] <ace_> ServerSage, My problem is, after I installed 11.10 on my PC, my internet connection is super slow.
[11:03] <ServerSage> taffflash: Are you installing fglrx over the open source drivers for a reason?  I use the open source ATI drivers and am mostly happy.
[11:03] <ServerSage> ace_: Is your local network slow as well?
[11:04] <ace_> ServerSage, at the risk of sounding stupid, how can I check it
[11:05] <ServerSage> ace_: Something as simple as an sftp from one system to another on your local network would give you an idea.
[11:05] <RiseOfPhoenix> check this out: http://bit.ly/uVlrhb
[11:06] <taffflash> ServerSage: the open source ones are the ones already installed right?
[11:06] <SunTsu> ace_: do you even have a local network at all? What kind of internet access do you have exactly? do you connect to the internet "directly", do you have a router, do you have dsl and use pppoe on your box, please start describing your network setup
[11:06] <ServerSage> taffflash: Should be.
[11:06] <taffflash> http://pastebin.com/MMGNHyYz
[11:06] <ServerSage> taffflash: What ATI card do you have?
[11:07] <taffflash> thats the log
[11:07] <piggz> hi, im setting up a 10.04 server running apache and postgresql...apage and php are working fine, but postgresql doesnt start...its missing /etc/postgresql/main .... does anyone know where that is configured from?
[11:07] <ace_> SunTsu, I have cable internet. I connect through a router. I do not have a network setup
[11:07] <taffflash> HD 360 I think
[11:07] <SunTsu> ace_: that _is_ a network setup. Do you have anything else behind that router?
[11:08] <ace_> SunTsu, No, it goes from the modem to the router and then to my PC
[11:09] <SunTsu> ace_: when your "internet" freezes, are you still able to ping your router? Or access it's web interface if it has one?
[11:09] <ace_> SunTsu, Let me check
[11:09] <ServerSage> taffflash: Sounds like a mobile card, is this a laptop?
[11:09] <k3Rn> hi
[11:10] <k3Rn> is there a possibility to print out all configured TUN/TAP interfaces?
[11:10] <SunTsu> ace_: secondly, what kind of nic do you have? pci? usb? Which vendor, which type?
[11:10] <k3Rn> i am not sure how one could destinguish between a physical interface and a TAP interface
[11:11] <ServerSage> taffflash: Get the model number from lspci.  You can run "lspci |grep ATI" from the console.
[11:11] <SunTsu> k3Rn: you should know them by their names
[11:11] <SunTsu> tapN is quite speaking for itself
[11:12] <ace_> SunTsu, I am still able to ping the router. I can find the vender using lspci?
[11:12] <SunTsu> ace_: if you're using a pci nic: yes
[11:13] <ServerSage> Guess taffflash no longer needs help.
[11:13] <k3Rn> SunTsu: is there any other way besides the names of the interfaces?
[11:13] <ace_> SunTsu, Realtek RTL8111/8168B
[11:13] <SunTsu> ace_: if you are able to ping while your internet access is gone, what about "traceroute -n 8.8.8.8"?
[11:16] <clod69it> ciao
[11:17] <ace_> SunTsu, 30 hops max, 60 byte packets 1 10.10.10.2 2819.997 ms !H 3003.853 ms !H
[11:18] <democrezy> How can i update video drivers in ubuntu 11.10 for intel inbuilt graphics card? Thanks in advance.
[11:18] <auronandace> democrezy: you don't
[11:18] <taffflash> sorry guys someone was knocking my front door grrrr
[11:18] <auronandace> democrezy: intel drivers are already installed
[11:19] <SunTsu> k3Rn: ip tuntap could be what you are looking for
[11:19] <SunTsu> ace_: which is your router?
[11:19] <taffflash> how do I scroll up in this xchat? I cant find the bar?
[11:19] <auronandace> !pm democrezy
[11:19] <auronandace> !pm | democrezy
[11:20] <RiseOfPhoenix> :)
[11:20] <ace_> SunTsu, The type of router or the IP of the router?
[11:20] <taffflash> anyone?
[11:21] <xmental0> Hello everyone
[11:21] <SunTsu> ace_: 10.10.10.2 tells you that it doesn't know a route to the ip I gave you and asked you to traceroute. Is that your router?
[11:21] <auronandace> taffflash: got a mouse wheel? or the rightside of a trackpad?
[11:21] <democrezy> okay ubottu, i didn't know that. sorry
[11:21] <democrezy> But why? My default drivers are not working properly.
[11:22] <ace_> SunTsu, sorry. My router is 10.10.10.10. 10.10.10.02 is my PC's address
[11:23] <Guest71694> hi having sound problem in xubuntu
[11:23] <SunTsu> ace_: please pastey "route -n"
[11:24] <taffflash> ServerSage:Mobility Radeon HD 3650,yes it is a laptop
[11:24] <Guest71694> can choise my usb sound card but theres only saound from my laptop
[11:25] <SpiceKid> Hello, I am having trouble installing Ubunu on a new hard drive. I've downloaded the latest Ubuntu from the website and burned it to a disk. I am able to use it as a Live CD however when I try and install it, it gives me an error saying I don't have enough space (4gb). However the new hard drive is 1tb and I know it has more than enough space. My computer recognizes the hard drive on startup, so I am not sure why I can not install. An
[11:26] <DoctorBaconite> are you trying to use a partition or the whole disk?
[11:26] <ace_> SunTsu, http://paste.ubuntu.com/777275/
[11:26] <auronandace> SpiceKid: are you giving it a 4gb partition?
[11:26] <SunTsu> SpiceKid: lines are limited, your's just broke off at "install. An"
[11:26] <ServerSage> taffflash: Thats supported by the fglrx driver if you want to go that route.  Just gotta figure out why it's not installing.
[11:27] <SpiceKid> I'm trying to use the whole disk.
[11:27] <democrezy> How can i update video drivers in ubuntu 11.10 for intel inbuilt graphics card? Default drivers are not working properly.I am new to linux.Thanks in advance.
[11:27] <DoctorBaconite> do you have the live disk up and running right now? what happens if you run 'df -h'
[11:28] <taffflash> ServerSage: if you could please help me sort this issue out I would be greatful
[11:28] <SpiceKid> I shut down the computer, but I'll try again.
[11:28] <taffflash> I have just done the os updates and need to reboot,brb
[11:29] <ace_> SunTsu, I just want to say that I appreciate your patience with me, and all your help. And I apologize for the confusion in the beginning, it wasn't intentional
[11:29] <SpiceKid> I had trouble installing Windows as well, it would not detect my hard drive, and now I think it is a driver issue..
[11:29] <ServerSage> taffflash: Why are you so hell bent on installing the fglrx driver?  Why not stick with the open source?
[11:29] <SunTsu> ace_: that looks exactly what you would expect, which is strange, because your traceroute returned "Host not reachable", and very long round trip times too
[11:30] <SunTsu> ace_: it's OK, just, please, try to answer questions you're asked, else nobody can help you
[11:30] <ace_> SunTsu, OK
[11:30] <SunTsu> ace_: which "ping times" do you get when pinging your router?
[11:31] <emcav> anyone else have problems with the volume not saving at reboot?  it's always set to max for me & scares the crap out of me each time i login
[11:31] <Guest71694> how to get sound from my usb sound card with xubuntu
[11:31] <ServerSage> taffflash: Have you read the community help wiki?  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RadeonDriver
[11:32] <taffflash>  /msg NickServ identify 163wb113
[11:32] <SunTsu> taffflash: thanks, your trust in us is appreciated very much ;)
[11:32] <auronandace> taffflash: change your password and do that outside the channel next time
[11:33] <taffflash> opps lol
[11:33] <SunTsu> or put otherwise, change your NickServ password as fast as possible
[11:33] <taffflash> im looking on that site now
[11:33] <ServerSage> taffflash: Oops, sent you the wrong link.  Have you read:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[11:33] <ace_> SunTsu, I pasted the results. When I pinged the router it went so far and stopped. I'm not sure if that's nomal. paste.ubuntu.com/777276
[11:34] <SpiceKid> I don't think the Live CD runs on my computer. I see the background and mouse, but the left side and top are graphically glitched out
[11:34] <cihat> is there any document you can share about unity development
[11:35] <auronandace> SpiceKid: what are the specs?
[11:36] <meerkats> any thoughts about removing the windows icon from my windows key? is it difficult to replace the key? stickers? paint?
[11:36] <SpiceKid> auronadace : I am unable to access the information but from what I can tell from the case it is a amd 64 athlon x2, originally ran windows xp, it has 2-3gb of ram.
[11:36] <SunTsu> ace_: please pastey the whole traceroute -n 8.8.8.8, that ping looks quite like it should, your routing table does so, too
[11:37] <auronandace> SpiceKid: and the graphics card?
[11:37] <DoctorBaconite> Spice: have you tried checking the hard drive health or testing the memory?
[11:38] <auronandace> SpiceKid: and the graphics card?
[11:38] <ace_> SunTsu, paste.ubuntu.com/777286/
[11:38] <SpiceKid> DoctorBaconite: I have tried but it gave me an error telling me to insert my original windows disk
[11:39] <Nut4hire> hi everyone .. need some help
[11:39] <auronandace> meerkats: not really a ubuntu issue is it?
[11:39] <SpiceKid> auronandace: the graphics card I believe is an integrated Ncidia Geforce 6100
[11:39] <meerkats> auronandace, I didnt know where to ask
[11:39] <Nut4hire> who can I ask for help around here
[11:39] <meerkats> is there a "customize your craptop" channel?
[11:40] <auronandace> SpiceKid: try booting the livecd with nomodeset
[11:40] <Nut4hire> and is there a live admin who can team viewer into my system and fix my problem for me ?
[11:40] <auronandace> !nomodeset | SpiceKid
[11:40] <SunTsu> ace_: very strange, your packates arive at your router and after that it's all timeouts. Which is quite different to your results above
[11:40] <auronandace> Nut4hire: you may want to describe your problem
[11:41] <ace_> SunTsu, What do you think could be causing that?
[11:41] <auronandace> !alis | meerkats
[11:41] <SunTsu> ace_: if only I knew that. Is your "internet gone" while doing these tests?
[11:42] <SpiceKid> auronandace: ill give it a try
[11:42] <ace_> SunTsu, yes
[11:43] <Nut4hire> My problem is that I just installed Ubuntu 11.10 on my computer , fresh install , windows completely removed . I have two monitors connected to my Nvidia Geforce4 Ti4200 8x AGP card , now the problem is that I cannot find the drivers for them and so one display is not being detected , I also do not know the sudo commands and how to run the terminal so will need someone who can team viewer into my pc and fix this problem :(
[11:43] <SunTsu> ace_: and you say that it works all the time with windows? Because for me it looks like your router or even your internet line is the culprit
[11:43] <ace_> SunTsu, Yes
[11:44] <SunTsu> ace_: do you by chance know if your router does UPNP?
[11:44] <ace_> SunTsu, Yes it does
[11:45] <SunTsu> ace_: another thing, does ping -n 8.8.8.8 work?
[11:45] <RGYAH1> HAIL !! people of this channel !
[11:45] <RGYAH1> o/
[11:45] <itbcn8> hi all, i am getting an error in gparted for my linux swap. i have ext4 on /dev/sda5 and linux-swap on /dev/sda6, but it shows "Warning: Unable to detect file system! Possible reasons are: - The file system is damaged, -The file system is unknown to Gparted, -There is no file system available (unformatted), -The device entry /dev/sda6 is missing.
[11:45] <itbcn8> anyone know?
[11:45] <ikonia> RGYAH1: you have been asked to stop that
[11:46] <RGYAH1> ikonia is it annoying ?
[11:46] <ikonia> yes
[11:46] <RGYAH1> this is the old ways of saying " hi "
[11:46] <ikonia> RGYAH1: just say hi,
[11:46] <SunTsu> RGYAH1: and the new way to annoy a whole channel
[11:46] <RGYAH1> how about god be with ye
[11:46] <RGYAH1> not goodbye
[11:46] <ikonia> give it a rest
[11:47] <ManDay> In which CONFIGFILE do I set the locale environment variable (LC_LANG) ?
[11:47] <Vardsy> @TiMiDo, installed alsamixer and made the adjustments in there and Audio is sweet !!
[11:47] <Vardsy> thanks for your help :-D
[11:47] <RGYAH1> ikonia well i also want you to stop doing things.. can i tell you what to do?
[11:47] <TiMiDo> oh good to know Vardsy
[11:47] <SpiceKid> auronandace: okay the live cd is working now after i booted with nomodeset, however I don't think it recognizes my hard drive still.
[11:47] <TiMiDo> no problem Vardsy
[11:47] <RGYAH1> o let me guess. you will kick me now
[11:47] <RGYAH1> stronge boy
[11:47] <ikonia> RGYAH1: if it's in breach of how the channel works, sure
[11:47] <stephenh> hello
[11:47] <Gentoo64> RGYAH1, let me guess your behind some silly vpn
[11:47] <Nut4hire> is someone going to reply to me ?
[11:47] <Vardsy> I have fended the wife off and the Linux Media PC stays in the lounge :)
[11:47] <ikonia> !guidlelines > RGYAH1
[11:47] <stephenh> is anyone using evolution+exchange 2010?
[11:47] <RiseOfPhoenix> how i change my buttons: [_][^][x] from right to left/
[11:47] <RiseOfPhoenix> ?
[11:48] <RGYAH1> Gentoo64 i use SSL only
[11:48] <e01> someone familiar with pae ?
[11:48] <auronandace> SpiceKid: 1tb you said? the biggest i got is a 750gb (but that is external) is the harddrive very new?
[11:48] <ace_> SunTsu, Yes it works, but after about 5 lines it pauses. I pasted the results paste.ubuntu.com/77292
[11:48] <RiseOfPhoenix> Someone ?
[11:49] <e01> RiseOfPhoenix, install ubuntu-tweak it have such option
[11:49] <ace_> SunTsu, and now it's starting to run again on it's own
[11:49] <RiseOfPhoenix> thanks @e01
[11:49] <SpiceKid> auronandace: yes the hard drive is new, i got it after my old one crashed. i was unable to install windows 7 on it due to lack of drivers of some sort. i thought i would give ubuntu a try, but it fails to detect my hard drive upon installation.
[11:50] <auronandace> SpiceKid: certainly sounds like a driver issue, i'm not sure what to suggest
[11:50] <Nut4hire> auronandace: can you help me please ?
[11:51] <itbcn8> anyone know? how to get back my linux swap?
[11:51] <auronandace> SpiceKid: you could try looking on the forums see if someone else has the same drive
[11:51] <auronandace> Nut4hire: you've already installed teamviewer?
[11:51] <Gentoo64> Nut4hire, the partition?
[11:51] <SpiceKid> auronandace: do you think it could be a problem with bios settings? the only sata connection on the pc is to the hard drive, everything else is the older model.
[11:52] <auronandace> Nut4hire: i'm not sure how to help via teamviewer regarding multiple screens
[11:52] <Gentoo64> Nut4hire, sorry i meant someone else
[11:52] <Nut4hire> auronandace: no I haven't installed team viewer as yet but I was hoping that would help
[11:52] <auronandace> SpiceKid: hmm, do you have ide emulation for the sata drive?
[11:52] <Nut4hire> Gentoo64: it's okay :)
[11:53] <auronandace> Nut4hire: the monitors shouldn't need drivers, it's the nvidia graphics card that needs the driver
[11:53] <SpiceKid> auronandace: im not sure what that is, im looking at the bios now and it has options for parallel ata, serial ata, and native mode operation.
[11:54] <Nut4hire> auronandace: if I can be directed to a good driver package that works for the Geforce4 Ti 4200 and is reliable, I think that might help
[11:54] <Nut4hire> auronandace: and yes it does, so where do I get them from ?
[11:54] <auronandace> Nut4hire: if you've installed the recomended one via the extra drivers thingy then you'd need to check out the nvidia settings
[11:55] <SpiceKid> auronandace: im not sure what the problem is because when i press f12 for boot order, it recognizes my cd drive and hard drive, however ubunutu nor linux installations detects the disk.
[11:55] <Gentoo64> SpiceKid, is it just the sata hdd that dont work?
[11:55] <Nut4hire> auronandace: alright. I have done that , will restart and check to make sure once more
[11:55] <SpiceKid> gentoo64: it appears that way. i only have the sata hdd, and it doesn't have enough plugins for an ide one, unless i remove the cables from the cd drive. the cd drive works fine as the live cd loads.
[11:55] <Nut4hire> brb
[11:56] <Gentoo64> SpiceKid, whats it set in the bios as at the moment? (pata sata etc)
[11:56] <SpiceKid> gentoo64: parallel ata is set on primary, serial ata set to enabled, and native mode operation set to automatic.
[11:57] <Gentoo64> different bios to what im used to... what options are there for sata, just enabled or disabled?
[11:58] <SpiceKid> gentoo64: thats correct.
[11:58] <Gentoo64> maybe try it with native mdoe disabled, just to see if it works
[11:59] <SpiceKid> gentoo64: the options for native mode are enabled and automatic, should i try it on automatic?
[11:59] <SunTsu> ace_: whatever it is your pasteyed, it doesn't look like the ping result to me
[11:59] <Gentoo64> i thought thats what it was currently on?
[12:00] <Gentoo64> SpiceKid, if not then try automatic, or enabled, whatever one it isnt currently on
[12:00] <Gentoo64> SpiceKid, what options are there for pata (primary etc)
[12:00] <Gentoo64> weird because the os should pick up the drive :s
[12:01] <Gentoo64> nomatter what setting its on
[12:01] <SpiceKid> gentoo64: you were correct, it was already on automatic, and i just tried enabled and now my cd drive is not recognized.
[12:01] <Gentoo64> SpiceKid, what options are there for pata (primary etc)
[12:01] <Gentoo64> seems like some conflict between the sata and ide drives
[12:02] <ace_> SunTsu, Hmm,  I don't know what happened. I'll do it again
[12:03] <SpiceKid> gentoo64: the options for pata are disabled, primary, secondary, both.
[12:04] <Gentoo64> try setting it to secondary, then trying native mode both auto and enabled
[12:04] <ace_> SunTsu, I'm just rebooting my PC, I just wanted to make absolutely sure the connection was working good in Windows which it was
[12:04] <Gentoo64> lol trial and error
[12:05] <SunTsu> ace_: unfortunately I need to go in a few minutes
[12:05] <SpiceKid> gentoo64: lol im fine with that, i really appreciate the help.
[12:05] <SunTsu> but somebody else surely is able to pick it up
[12:06] <ace_> SunTsu, after a fresh restart, and before I opened up a browser, the test seems to be running faster.
[12:06] <m4sker> :-)
[12:06] <SunTsu> ace_: but: another question, do you use dhcp or did you configure it by hand?
[12:06] <ace_> SunTsu, OK
[12:06] <ace_> SunTsu, dhcp
[12:06] <munchor> Where is EMACS configuration file in Ubuntu? I've tried ~/.emacs and ~/.emacs.d/init.el Thanks.
[12:06] <Gerapa> i have ubuntu 10.04 and when i made sleep it and "woke up" computer wireless connection doesn't connect, however it works in windows, what should i do?
[12:07] <Gentoo64> munchor, i dont use emacs, byt maybe /etc
[12:07] <Gentoo64> somewhere
[12:07] <stephenh> man emacs
[12:07] <johny_> д
[12:07] <ace_> SunTsu, I can't thank you enough for you time today
[12:09] <theishi> I am having some difficulty with the clipboard. I am using vim to copy text to the system clipboard '"*y' and when I leave vim and go to the console. The text is there, also xclip displays it correct. But in firefox when I click paste i get something different
[12:09] <Nut4hire> auronandace:  same problem, now display is only on my vga monitor, not on HDMI one. The Hdmi monitor is switched off. If I go into Display> it shows only one monitor and thats "unknown"
[12:09] <SunTsu> ace_: you're welcome. At least it doesn't seem to be an issue of your nic primarily, because you can ping your router just fine, and even traceroutes show it. If pinging 8.8.8.8 works maybe it's a dns issue
[12:09] <munchor> Thanks Gentoo64, stephenh
[12:10] <auronandace> Nut4hire: out of curiosity, what desktop environment are you using?
[12:10] <farrukhjon> hi guys! help what you recommend me for VOIP client (for ex. openEye win32) for ubuntu ?
[12:10] <ace_> Suntsu, OK
[12:10] <SunTsu> ace_: on the other hand, the traceroute you showed me first which resulted in !H confureses and worries me
[12:10] <Nut4hire> auronandace: environment ? I'm not sure what you mean sorry
[12:10] <SunTsu> confuses even - see how confused I'm already are ;)
[12:10] <SunTsu> am ;) there
[12:10] <ace_> SunTsu, Could it be a bad install?
[12:10] <auronandace> Nut4hire: gnome3? unity? kde?
[12:11] <Gentoo64> Nut4hire, the unknown monitor thing is normal
[12:11] <Nut4hire> auronandace: I've just installed a fresh copy of 11.10 desktop from an iso , and whatever that has on it im using it
[12:11] <SunTsu> ace_: I don't think so, no
[12:11] <Hades_Ubuntu> Hello, can some one help me in Ubuntu 11.10 Unity create desktop icon shortcut for command smb://192.168.1.1/share/
[12:11] <auronandace> Nut4hire: oh, so unity then
[12:12] <ace_> SunTsu, I am going to try to hook straight to the modem to see what happens
[12:12] <SunTsu> ace_: sounds like a good idea
[12:12] <auronandace> Nut4hire: i don't use unity but there have been trouble with trying to get it working with multiple monitors
[12:12] <ace_> SunTsu, Thank you again for all your help today. You have a great day!
[12:12] <auronandace> Nut4hire: i'm more of an xfce guy
[12:12] <Nut4hire> auronandace: so what do you suggest I do then ?
[12:13] <abu-bakr> hi folks, anyone know if multiple directories can be chosen as the music source in BANSHEE?
[12:13] <RiseOfPhoenix> Question: I have a port open: 631 , service: ipp  - what's this?!
[12:13] <auronandace> Nut4hire: hopefully someone more knowledgable than i can help you better
[12:13] <Gentoo64> abu-bakr, if not you could just create a load of symlinks to a parent dir
[12:13] <Nut4hire> auronandace: :(
[12:14] <RiseOfPhoenix> Question: I have a port open: 631 , service: ipp  - what's this?!
[12:14] <Hades_Ubuntu> hello?
[12:14] <abu-bakr> symlinks? Gentoo64, how do i go about that?
[12:14] <Gentoo64> hi
[12:15] <auronandace> Nut4hire: i have a nvidia card and i got 2 monitors but mine is vga
[12:15] <munchor> It's ~/.emacs.el btw =D
[12:15] <Hades_Ubuntu> Plz help, how to create desktop shortcut in ubuntu Unity
[12:15] <Gentoo64> abu-bakr, you could create your "playlist folder" then use ls -l to link all your folders into that
[12:15] <auronandace> Nut4hire: the nvidia drivers picked them up fine for me when i changed the resolution settings in nvidia x server settings
[12:16] <Nut4hire> auronandace: yes, there have not been many issues with vga displays, I was reading somewhere how Nvidia specific cards have problem cuz of the config file and it needs to be edited for it to work, let me see if I can find it and share here so you can suggest if the sudo commands will fix the problem or not
[12:16] <abu-bakr> Gentoo64: thanks, any GUI way of doing that.. ?
[12:16] <Gentoo64> abu-bakr, not that i know of
[12:16] <Gentoo64> there probably is
[12:17] <Hades_Ubuntu> my message are visible here?
[12:17] <Gentoo64> abu-bakr, dno if nautilus can create sumlinks or not
[12:17] <auronandace> Hades_Ubuntu: indeed they are
[12:17] <Hades_Ubuntu> tnx
[12:18] <Gentoo64> Hades_Ubuntu, afaik gnome 3 dont use the desktop
[12:18] <Gerapa> i have ubuntu 10.04 and when i made sleep it and "woke up" computer wireless connection doesn't connect, however it works in windows, what should i do?
[12:18] <Hades_Ubuntu> can any one help me with desktop shortcuts in ubuntu unity?
[12:18] <Gentoo64> i think youd have to enable it which isnt recommdned
[12:18] <abu-bakr> Gentoo64: thanks... yes a normal 'make link' and then copy the link into music folder has listed the the items in banshee.. lets see if it plays
[12:18] <RiseOfPhoenix> @Hades_Ubuntu what is your problem ?
[12:18] <Hades_Ubuntu> i use Unity not Gnome 3
[12:18] <SunTsu> ace_: you're welcome, the same to you and good luck in solving your issue
[12:18] <Gentoo64> abu-bakr, cool ok
[12:19] <Hades_Ubuntu> My problem is how to create desktop shortcut for command smb://192.168.1.1/share/
[12:19] <auronandace> Hades_Ubuntu: unity is built on top of gnome3
[12:19] <Hades_Ubuntu> insteed of use ctrl+f2 every time
[12:19] <ace_> SunTsu, Thank you
[12:20] <amitprakash> Hi.. how do I enable python support in vim
[12:20] <Nut4hire> auronandace: can I pm you aurodance for better chat ?
[12:20] <amitprakash> specifically, how do I get http://www.vim.org/scripts/script.php?script_id=2914 to work for vim on ubuntu
[12:20] <Gentoo64> amitprakash, should be built in..
[12:20] <Hades_Ubuntu> so in gnome 3 no way to create custom command luncher?
[12:20] <Gentoo64> Hades_Ubuntu, yeah there is
[12:21] <Hades_Ubuntu> omg
[12:21] <auronandace> Nut4hire: sure but i'll be leaving soon
[12:21] <amitprakash> Gentoo64, if it is.. then for some reason its not running the pep8.vim plugin in my ~/.vim/ftplugin/python
[12:21] <Hades_Ubuntu> gime sword i cut every hand of gnome 3 devs
[12:21] <amitprakash> Gentoo64, what gives
[12:21] <Gentoo64> Hades_Ubuntu, but its not as easy (afaik) as most des where you click "make launcher" this is why gnome 3 has so much hate
[12:21] <gulzar>  is there any way to clean unwanted .folders from /home?
[12:22] <Gentoo64> gulzar, manually delete them
[12:22] <amitprakash> Hades_Ubuntu, gnome 3 is moving away from launchers to a favorite bar
[12:22] <amitprakash> Hades_Ubuntu, you can always click drop something to the favorites bar
[12:22] <Gentoo64> amitprakash, im not sure about that plugin
[12:22] <amitprakash> Hades_Ubuntu, finally, you can also use meta key + command for fast/easy access
[12:23] <gulzar> Gentoo64: but when we install and remove many apps and there are many users... ? Is there any command or utility to do this. One is there but it is not updated after 2008
[12:23] <Hades_Ubuntu> Tnx all, i think i need to search another disrt for me
[12:23] <amitprakash> Gentoo64, created launcher is easy for gnome3 fallbacks.. and they don't exist for gnome3 shell
[12:23] <amitprakash> s/created/create
[12:24] <Gentoo64> gulzar, i would just open the file manager and delete them
[12:24] <Gentoo64> it shouldnt take long
[12:25] <gulzar> Gentoo64: I too.. do the same. But there must be any command to do this which will check such folders :)
[12:25] <Gentoo64> check them for what?
[12:26] <Gentoo64> gulzar, when you remove apps the configs/folders are left behind in /gome and /etc (if theyre edited)
[12:26] <Gerapa> i have ubuntu 10.04 and when i made sleep it and "woke up" computer wireless connection doesn't connect, however it works in windows, what should i do?
[12:26] <gulzar> Gentoo64: check them if they are used or not. eg: first install gwenview then remove it. Now there will be .kde folder with gwenview. Now how to search this folder which does not link to any app and to remove it. Other than using file manager
[12:26] <Gerapa> please help me :/
[12:26] <Gentoo64> gulzar, no way of checking
[12:27] <gulzar> Gentoo64: this is what I am asking...
[12:27] <Gentoo64> gulzar, youd have to manually remove them. as theyre not "linked" to an app
[12:27] <Gentoo64> apps just look for them
[12:27] <Gentoo64> and read them
[12:27] <gulzar> Gentoo64: yes they do so...
[12:28] <cipherboy> Gerapa, you can restart and it will work, right?
[12:28] <minimec> Gerapa: Can you disable/enable wireless networking with the indicator applet after 'wake up'?
[12:28] <Gerapa> cipherboy: minimec I have already restarted computer, I have restarted router too but it still doesn't work
[12:28] <k3Rn> has anyone installed linguestfs on ubuntu server 11.10?
[12:29] <Gentoo64> gulzar, i take it you just dont like the mess then :)
[12:29] <cipherboy> gerapa, okay, do you have special drivers?
[12:29] <minimec> Gerapa: open a terminal and type 'rfkill unblock wifi'
[12:30] <Gerapa> cipherboy: I think I have broadcom, I don't remember exactly, don't remember what command to type to get info of drivers
[12:30] <cipherboy> gerapa, nvmind, listen to minimec. Not familiar with the propblem.
[12:32] <gulzar> Gentoo64: yes .. I want my sys to be clean and run with full speed
[12:32] <Gerapa> minimec: I did it
[12:32] <Gentoo64> gulzar, leftover config files on /home wont slow it down, at all
[12:32] <Gerapa> minimec: still cant connect or I need to restart?
[12:32] <cipherboy> gulzar, having files laying around does not slow down the system.
[12:32] <Gentoo64> gulzar, but im the same with the clean-ness :)
[12:32] <taffflash> so I sorted my gf card out lol
[12:33] <taffflash> how can I change the look on this unity? I mean get rid of it ?
[12:33] <Gentoo64> gulzar, just do what i do, every time you uninstall an app, check /home dir for junk files
[12:33] <baharudin> hello...
[12:33] <minimec> Gerapa: what does 'rfkill list' say? Is wireless LAN blocked in any way?
[12:34] <administrator> NMM
[12:34] <Gerapa> minimec: it didn't say anything
[12:34] <baharudin> i using xubuntu 10.04 but cannot play mp3 using totem player
[12:34] <minimec> Gerapa: rfkill list without ''
[12:35] <gulzar> Gentoo64: I do it.. using "find" I can easily locate and delete the files.. But I wanted to know if there is any command which specifically do this work. Even if not then no problem.
[12:35] <theishi> Anyone know how I can troubleshoot this clipboard issue?
[12:35] <Gentoo64> gulzar, nope there isnt
[12:35] <gulzar> Gentoo64: this is one reason I go for reinstallation
[12:35] <Gentoo64> dont be silly
[12:35] <Gerapa> minimec: I have done it without ' ' should I try with them? lol
[12:35] <gulzar> baharudin: which error?
[12:36] <minimec> Gerapa: hmmm... simply rfkill?
[12:36] <gulzar> Gentoo64: But now I am with ARCH so all that bloatedness is not there ..
[12:36] <baharudin> gulzar: totem crash
[12:37] <gulzar> baharudin: lauch totem with terminal and then play the file and see error
[12:37] <baharudin> how? ( i'm newbie)
[12:37] <administrator_> HAI TEST
[12:38] <taffflash> anyone know how I can get rid of this unity? Im not fussed on it
[12:39] <steve84> hi i am using ubuntu 11.10 and i am new to linux and i need help to access a windows network
[12:40] <TiMiDo> steve84, install samba
[12:40] <TiMiDo> ;)
[12:40] <Gerapa> minimec: I get error when I type rfkill because u need to specify commands
[12:40] <insectatorious> !samba | steve84
[12:41] <TiMiDo> ty insectatorious
[12:41] <TiMiDo> ;)
[12:41] <Gerapa> minimec: When I type rfkill list then dell-wifi: wireless LAN soft block and hard blocked indicates no
[12:41] <insectatorious> TiMiDo: no worries..just pressed some keys >_<
[12:41] <taffflash> grrrr
[12:42] <TiMiDo> LoL'_
[12:42] <TiMiDo> nice good keys you are pressing
[12:42] <TiMiDo> ;P
[12:42] <insectatorious> taffflash: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/10/gnome-shell-ubuntu-11-10-guide/
[12:43] <minimec> Gerapa: I had to know, if rfkill is installed... ;) rfkill list should show you all available devices that are handled by rfkill. It should be wifi and bluetooth or something. It should also show you, if the devices are hard/soft blocked.
[12:43] <insectatorious> :D
[12:43] <taffflash> insectatorious: thank you
[12:43] <Gerapa> minimec: So I have said that its not blocked..
[12:43] <Wisnia> hello , who know what nt status bad network name is ?
[12:43] <insectatorious> taffflash: np
[12:44] <baharudin> Timido: totem or vlc crash when i try play file... ( using xubuntu 10.04 )
[12:44] <minimec> Gerapa: I did not see that... sorry ;) Can you block it once using 'rfkill block wifi', and then unblock it again?
[12:45] <xjiujiu> how to update the python version from 2.7.2 to 3.2?
[12:45] <TiMiDo> why did it crashed baharudin ?
[12:45] <TiMiDo> xjiujiu, apt-cache search python3.2
[12:45] <baharudin> i dont know...
[12:45] <Gerapa> minimec: I have done it but still doesn't work
[12:47] <TiMiDo> baharudin, open it with a terminal
[12:47] <TiMiDo> it will tell you there why the program is crashing
[12:47] <baharudin> TiMiDo: how?
[12:48] <PH> irc://toile-libre.org
[12:48] <TiMiDo> baharudin, open up a terminal
[12:48] <baharudin> o.k
[12:48] <baharudin> next?
[12:48] <TiMiDo> and type vlc file
[12:48] <TiMiDo> and see if you get any errors if you do do not paste it here.
[12:49] <ludo> hello everybody!
[12:49] <Guest53794> i have a little probleme with ubuntu over a DELL poweredge t100
[12:50] <baharudin> TiMiDo: File reading failed:
[12:50] <baharudin> VLC could not open the file "file".
[12:50] <baharudin> Your input can't be opened:
[12:50] <baharudin> VLC is unable to open the MRL 'file'. Check the log for details.
[12:50] <Guest53794> my video card ATI ES1000 freeze
[12:50] <TiMiDo> LoL
[12:50] <minimec> Gerapa: I would play around with that... For example: 1. Block the device, 2. suspend the machine, 3. wake up the machine, 4. unblock wifi.... Or 1. unblock the device, 2. suspend computer, 3. Shutdown Computer by pressing ON button for a ertain time. Restatrt Computer... When restarting the router, did you plug the power and wait for 10 seconds to clear all memory?
[12:50] <TiMiDo> baharudin, open up in a terminal type cd dir and locate the file you are trying to open
[12:50] <baharudin> o.k
[12:51] <xjiujiu> TiMiDo,I has execute this command,and it list some python3-xxx package info.But the result of "python --version" is still python 2.7+
[12:51] <TiMiDo> let me check it out
[12:51] <TiMiDo> give me one sec
[12:52] <Gerapa> minimec: not 10seconds I think I just clicked button to turn off and then turn on
[12:52] <TiMiDo> xjiujiu, which release are you using?
[12:52] <Gerapa> minimec: I can try it again and wait 10seconds but I think it shouldnt make difference
[12:52] <xjiujiu> 2.7.2, but I installed python3.2
[12:53] <TiMiDo> xjiujiu,  no i meant ubuntu release?
[12:53] <minimec> Gerapa: I would do so. Like that we can be sure, that the router is not the problem.
[12:53] <xjiujiu> 11.10
[12:53] <TiMiDo> ok
[12:53] <TiMiDo> then sudo apt-get install python3.2
[12:53] <xjiujiu> What can I do?
[12:53] <xjiujiu> ok.
[12:55] <baharudin> TiMiDo: VLC media player 1.0.6 Goldeneye
[12:55] <baharudin> [0x8d11148] main libvlc: Running vlc with the default interface. Use 'cvlc' to use vlc without interface.
[12:55] <baharudin> [0x8f6ee18] pulse audio output: No. of Audio Channels: 2
[12:55] <baharudin> QPainter::begin: Paint device returned engine == 0, type: 1
[12:55] <baharudin> QPainter::begin: Paint device returned engine == 0, type: 1
[12:55] <baharudin> QPainter::begin: Paint device returned engine == 0, type: 1
[12:55] <FloodBot1> baharudin: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:55] <TiMiDo> LoL
[12:55] <TiMiDo> good job FloodBot1
[12:55] <farrukhjon> hi all
[12:55] <TiMiDo> hi farrukhjon
[12:55] <farrukhjon> wich VoIP client best for Ubuntu
[12:56] <TiMiDo> depends
[12:56] <TiMiDo> farrukhjon, try kphone
[12:57] <farrukhjon> for HP probook intel sound
[12:57] <farrukhjon> i used gnome
[12:57] <TiMiDo> then try ekiga
[12:57] <xjiujiu> python3.2 is already the newest version...
[12:58] <farrukhjon> TiMiDo: i install it but where i can setting my VoIP provider data
[12:58] <TiMiDo> now type python --version
[12:58] <TiMiDo> farrukhjon, from your VOIP provider it self?
[12:59] <tewea> i have model of with trust mark of webcome but it doesnt work in ubuntu what shal i do?
[12:59] <xjiujiu> it is still Python2.7.2+ !_!
[12:59] <farrukhjon> TiMiDo: ip addres of voip server and port
[12:59] <TiMiDo> try removing version 2.7.2
[13:00] <xjiujiu> ok.
[13:00] <conntrack> Bah, my billion device isn't working
[13:00] <TiMiDo> billion device?
[13:01] <S1nbe4> hi, is "awesome" wm worth checking out?
[13:01] <conntrack> Yeah billon
[13:02] <conntrack> Guess that is off-topic
[13:02]  * p3t3rk shakes head in disbelief
[13:02] <xjiujiu> Ubuntu system depend on the python,is it?
[13:03] <iceroot> xjiujiu: ?
[13:04] <Nut4hire> I've managed to make the monitor work but the other display has gone out now  lol
[13:05] <Nut4hire> This is starting to get a little frustrating
[13:06] <mouseover1> How do I determine the time when my system went offline?
[13:06] <DivineOmega> Time in 'uptime' into a Terminal
[13:06] <S1nbe4> exit
[13:06] <DivineOmega> and subtract the amount from current time
[13:07] <iceroot> mouseover1: offline = halt or internet-connection lost?
[13:07] <DivineOmega> Actually, ignore me. That'll tell you when it came back up.
[13:07] <mouseover1> offline = halt... ie, the computer powered off
[13:08] <LjL> how can i make the Ubiquity installer ignore a given partition? i have a broken btrfs partition which hangs it. i've tried changing its type from fdisk, but parted still recognizes it as btrfs and tries to mount it.
[13:08] <iceroot> mouseover1: maybe /var/log/syslog has some infos about it
[13:09] <tewea> i have model of with "trust" mark of webcome but it doesnt work in ubuntu what shal i do?
[13:09] <iceroot> tewea: ?
[13:10] <iceroot> tewea: is your question "i have a trust webcam which is not working in ubuntu, what can i do"?
[13:11] <mohan__> any one help me install ubuntu on my  hp pavilion g6 computer with 1gb of graphics card(radeon graphics)
[13:11] <tewea> iceroot: yes
[13:11] <mohan__> i get series of code running down
[13:11] <mohan__> will not get to desktop
[13:12] <tewea> iceroot: i have a trust webcam which is not working in ubuntu, what can i do
[13:12] <mohan__> will lower my screen brightness to nill
[13:13] <tewea> iceroot: i have a trust webcam which is not working in ubuntu, what can i do?
[13:13] <Nut4hire> whats that interface called , the one that comes up if I press Ctrl + Alt + F1 ?
[13:13] <iceroot> Nut4hire: TTY1
[13:13] <iceroot> tewea: does ubuntu see the webcam?
[13:14] <mohan__> any one help me install ubuntu on my  hp pavilion g6 computer with 1gb of graphics card(radeon graphics), i get series of code running down and  will lower my screen brightness to nill
[13:14] <Nut4hire> When I run it, both my displays show but if I go back, only 1 monitor shows
[13:14] <Nut4hire> why is this happening lol
[13:14] <tewea> iceroot: no
[13:14] <iceroot> tewea: is it a usb-webcam?
[13:15] <iceroot> Nut4hire: because TTY7 is handled by the x-server
[13:15] <iceroot> Nut4hire: TTY1-6 are not
[13:15] <mohan__> any one help me install ubuntu on my  hp pavilion g6 computer with 1gb of graphics card(radeon graphics), i get series of code running down and  will lower my screen brightness to nill
[13:15] <tewea> iceroot: yes usb -webcome
[13:15] <Nut4hire> iceroot: how can I fix this and make both displays work in Ubuntu and also in TTY1-7
[13:16] <mohan__> any one help me install ubuntu on my  hp pavilion g6 computer with 1gb of graphics card(radeon graphics), i get series of code running down and  will lower my screen brightness to nill
[13:16] <Nut4hire> or not TTY7 I think
[13:16] <iceroot> Nut4hire: configuring your x-server e.g. with /etc/X11/xorg.conf or with a tool from your vga
[13:16] <iceroot> tewea: what is the output of dmesg after plugin in the webcam
[13:16] <alabarda> hello
[13:16] <tewea> iceroot:  is there any thing to install for trust web came?
[13:17] <alabarda> #italy
[13:17] <mohan__> any one help me install ubuntu on my  hp pavilion g6 computer with 1gb of graphics card(radeon graphics), i get series of code running down and  will lower my screen brightness to nill
[13:17] <tewea> iceroot:  it display nothing
[13:18] <mohan__> no
[13:18] <mohan__> when i increase brightness will be able to see codes running down
[13:19] <mohan__> when i increase brightness will end the codes running down and i will have to reboot
[13:19] <mohan__> never reached desktop after installing ubuntu 11.04
[13:19] <tewea> iceroot:when i plug in the webcame?
[13:19] <oCean> LjL: have you seen LP bug #727351 ?
[13:19] <geruja> minimec: nothing works :/
[13:19] <Nut4hire> iceroot: I installed Ubuntu 11.10 from scratch and have two displays ( monitors ) connected , 1 is DVI and 2 is VGA. During installation both the displays were being  detected and worked fine at the same time. Now only one is working , It was the second display that was working in the start and not my main one but I changed the xconfig file and now the 2nd has gone blank but the 1st one is working. When I bring up the TTY1 thing, it shows on both the displa
[13:20] <Mendishon> hi people my english in not god sa i have a few question
[13:20] <minimec> geruja: geruja = gerapa?
[13:21] <tewea> iceroot:you there?
[13:21] <geruja> minimec: yeah :D
[13:21] <geruja> minimec: about wireless
[13:22] <Mendishon> i have a acer aspire one 521 using ubuntu 10.10 and headphone not  working
[13:22] <Mendishon> and battery icon not working
[13:22] <LjL> oCean: ah no i hadn't. i guess i'll have to wait, since it only mentions formatting for now :(
[13:23] <Mendishon> geruja ty polak
[13:23] <Mendishon> ?
[13:23] <geruja> Mendishon: no
[13:23] <minimec> geruja: I am pretty surprised... I do know, that suspend can influenca wireless behaviour, but normally block/unblock wifi or a restart should do it. Did you try to suspend your machine with wifi unblocked and then shutdown the suspended computer with the ON button (press 5sec or longer) Then wait a moment and restart.
[13:23] <tewea> mendishon? is any aoidio can play
[13:23] <oCean> LjL: and that's not an option since you hope to fix the btrfs once?
[13:23] <Mendishon> ty bo mam problem
[13:23] <geruja> minimec: no i just blocked and then restarted
[13:24] <geruja> minimec: i can try suspend and shut down
[13:24] <LjL> oCean: correct. yesterday i tried to image the partition to somewhere else, but it took 5 hours only to tell me there was no free space left at the end :| i'd rather not spend hours in a live cd again...
[13:24] <geruja> minimec: I had this happened to me before when suspend doesnt't allow to connect  and other ppl had it but to fix it restarting computer was enough but now idk nothing works
[13:24] <Mendishon> tewea yes
[13:25] <tewea> mendishon:go to system>prefrence>sound check it if it is working?
[13:25] <Mendishon> built-in speakers are playing
[13:26] <Nut4hire> I think iceroot has left the building :)
[13:26] <mweijts> Is it normal behavior that infinite loops with 1,5,10 second(s) delay consuming memory, how faster the loop how more memory it use ( is see mem growing with 4k in System monitor ), could it damage my system ?
[13:26] <tewea> mendishon:go to system>prefrence>sound  is that mute the  output volume?
[13:26] <ikonia> damaged your system ?
[13:26] <geruja> minimec: now networking is disabled and cant connect at all
[13:27] <geruja> minimec: whole networking not only wifi
[13:27] <Nut4hire>  I installed Ubuntu 11.10 from scratch and have two displays ( monitors ) connected , 1 is DVI and 2 is VGA. During installation both the displays were being  detected and worked fine at the same time. Now only one is working , It was the second display that was working in the start and not my main one but I changed the xconfig file and now the 2nd has gone blank but the 1st one is working. When I bring up the TTY1 thing, it shows on both the displays. This
[13:27] <geruja> minimec: ah i know i just need left click and enable it
[13:27] <ikonia> Nut4hire: what video card are you using ?
[13:28] <Nut4hire> ikonia: Geforce4 ti4200 AGP 8x
[13:28] <minimec> geruja: Ok. That is looking good I think... Enable wifi...
[13:28] <Mendishon> tewea no everythings is a on
[13:28] <ikonia> Nut4hire: look at the twinview option for nvidia
[13:28] <mouseover1> iceroot: thanks
[13:28] <mweijts> ikonia i could not find the right words for "could it damage my system"
[13:28] <Nut4hire> ikonia: ok
[13:28] <ikonia> mweijts: how could an application using memory "damage" your system
[13:28] <geruja> minimec: no still cant ><
[13:29] <mweijts> i mean in terms of memory usage, because that's growing
[13:29] <ikonia> mweijts: what are you talking about
[13:29] <ikonia> mweijts: the less memory you have free....the slower your system will be, your system needs RAM to run
[13:30] <Nut4hire> ikonia: does it matter right now that my displays are coming up as 'unkown' in the System>Display  currently btw ?
[13:30] <ikonia> Nut4hire: nah
[13:30] <Nut4hire> ikonia: k
[13:30] <ikonia> Nut4hire: just means dcc info is not good from those monitors so it can't detect make/model
[13:30] <kutumaleo> does anybody knows how to upgrade from amule 2.2.6 to 2.3.1 on Oneiric?
[13:30] <Nut4hire> ikonia: yeah gotcha !
[13:30] <mweijts> a easy "while-do-done" loop which displays every second a textstring
[13:30] <ikonia> kutumaleo: you wait for a package to become available in the repos and it will offer you the update when it's there
[13:31] <AceKing> SunTsu, ServerSage,  are you in here?
[13:31] <mweijts> see http://paste.ubuntu.com/777345/
[13:31] <ikonia> mweijts: why do I need to see this ?
[13:32] <minimec> geruja: Hmmm... What would I do? I would probably delete the connetion in the network-manager and reboot. Then try to establish a new wireless connection. Your problem is strange.
[13:32] <kutumaleo> Ikonia: thanks
[13:34] <mweijts> ikonia:  you don't need to see it, but its about the behavior that it consumes memory from my computer, and i'm asking why its doing it, or is it normal behavior
[13:34] <ikonia> mweijts: how do you know that's comsuming your ram
[13:34] <ikonia> mweijts: you've got a while loop spawning ever 1 second
[13:34] <p3t3rk`> hello?
[13:34] <AceKing> I was in here below with a slow Internet issue. SunTsu, and ServerSage, were helping me. SunTsu went the extra mile trying to help me figure out my problem. I finally got it fixed, and I wanted to post the site in case anyone else had the same issue. http://www.rvdavid.net/how-to-get-gigabit-speeds-from-rtl81118168b-pci-express-gigabit-ethernet-controller-on-ubuntu-linux/
[13:35]  * p3t3rk` head nodes..
[13:35] <AceKing> before, not below
[13:35] <ikonia> AceKing: you just need to do ethtool
[13:35] <ikonia> AceKing: that's all you need to do to set the speed
[13:36] <AceKing> ikonia, OK, I didn't know that
[13:36] <ikonia> AceKing: to be honest running your internet card at GB speeds won't make a different as you won't be anywhere near that on the internet
[13:36] <Mendishon> tewea can you repeate
[13:36] <ikonia> AceKing: the only thing that could cause you problem is collusions due to wrong speed
[13:37] <tewea> mendishon:go to system>prefrence>sound  is that mute the  output volume?
[13:37] <AceKing> ikonia, my Internet speeds were very slow, and kept stalling until I followed the directions on that page
[13:37] <LjL> would it be an insane idea to image the first megabyte of my broken btrfs partition with dd, then zero that megabyte, in order to stop Ubiquity from thinking it's a valid btrfs partition? will i almost certainly destroy it?
[13:37] <Mendishon> everting is on
[13:37] <mweijts> ikonia:  I see this in System Monitor that its using more memory, but in a loop with 10 seconds delay its also consuming memory but not so fast as in 1 second delay
[13:37] <tewea> mendishon:if it is on then it is not  from the system
[13:37] <ikonia> LjL: it will destory it, but it will fix your ubiquity issue
[13:38] <ikonia> mweijts: ok - so that's not really a good method to guess at what is consuming your ram
[13:38] <ikonia> mweijts: open top and see what process is growing
[13:38] <Mendishon> but notrbok is a new
[13:38] <Mendishon> notebook
[13:38] <mweijts> ikonia:  i'm gonna try.thanks for answering
[13:39] <Mendishon> have a 2 months
[13:39] <ikonia> mweijts: try not to assume, it will let you down, there are many other processes running on your system, just because you are running that one, does not mean it's the one that's using your ram
[13:40] <DarkStar1> I just added a PPA to my list from: https://launchpad.net/~nathan-renniewaldock/+archive/ppa and apt is not picking up the ppa
[13:40] <Mendishon> maybe drivers is bad
[13:40] <LjL> ikonia: well i don't want it destroyed. why do you think it will? i mean, obviously it will, but after restoring that imaged megabyte do you see any reason why it wouldn't be back to working?
[13:40] <ikonia> LjL: ahhh, you're going to restore it
[13:40] <DarkStar1> I should mention that this is for 10.10 server and I did and upgrade and update
[13:40] <ikonia> LjL: I missed that part, you should be fine, you'll have to be careful with block size and count, but it should be "ok"
[13:41] <LjL> ikonia: ok. i'd image it all, but i tried yesterday and it just takes too long
[13:41] <geruja> minimec: well I deleted it and it automatically finds connections so I just need to click on it but still dont work
[13:41] <ikonia> LjL: if you can get the size of the partition table (512kb ?) that should be enough to not touch the data too
[13:41] <geruja> minimec: it always asks me to enter password
[13:42] <geruja> minimec: but its correct
[13:45] <aa_> hi, I did a network mount, ie "connect to server" now it appears on the desktop, but where is it actually mounted? I can't find it in /mnt or /media or anywhere where vim can find it
[13:46] <minimec> geruja: Ok. This is really strange. encryption settings are correct? Probably WPA2... What if you disabled ecryption on the router once? Your problem is really strange...
[13:46] <TiMiDo> aa_, where did you mount it at?
[13:46] <geruja> geruja: yeah wpa2 i am not sure how to disable
[13:47] <aa_> TiMiDo: I just used the user interface "Connect to server."
[13:47] <TiMiDo> right click on the folder to see it's location
[13:47] <aa_> TiMiDo: it says "On the desktop" though it is not in ~/Desktop
[13:48] <TiMiDo> right click on the icon from you're desktop
[13:48] <TiMiDo> right click on it and check if it gives you a dir location
[13:48] <aa_> TiMiDo: yes, that's what I did, it says Location: On the desktop
[13:49] <TiMiDo> check you'r /etc/fstab
[13:49] <aa_> TiMiDo: right, I did that too, and it's not in there
[13:49] <aa_> TiMiDo: or /etc/mtab, and not displayed with sudo mount
[13:50] <aa_> TiMiDo: ok find / found it
[13:51] <aa_> TiMiDo: ~/.gvfs
[13:51] <TiMiDo> oh cool
[13:51] <TiMiDo> ;)
[13:51] <aa_> all I have to say is WTF ubuntu
[13:51] <aa_> TiMiDo: thanks for your help
[13:51] <TiMiDo> no problem aa_
[13:51] <TiMiDo> any time
[13:51] <TiMiDo> ;)
[14:03] <lucidguy> I have a 14TB lvm-xfs filesystem complaining that its full yet df is reporting that there is 2.6TB available.  Ideas?
[14:05] <ikonia> lucidguy: what is complaining it's full, when you write to it ?
[14:05] <lucidguy> ikonia: yes, I can't even touch test.txt
[14:06] <Xaifas> Can anyone tell me what is the command that I can use in terminal to regain control of a process that I nohup-ed? Can't seem to find it
[14:06] <lucidguy> wondering if I should do an xfs check on the fs
[14:06] <ikonia> lucidguy: it's not a bad idea,
[14:06] <lucidguy> ikonia: I did recently grow the lv-xfs recently ... hmm.  A restart never woke it up either.
[14:07] <ikonia> lucidguy: you grew it
[14:07] <ikonia> lucidguy: did you extend the file system as well as the volume ?
[14:09] <_ruben> lucidguy: perhaps you ran out of inodes? (not sure how xfs works in that respect) .. check with df -i
[14:10] <llutz> lucidguy: is there root-reserved space?
[14:10] <DarkStar1> can someone help me pls? I'm having problems with adding a repo to apt
[14:11] <DarkStar1> I have (apparently) added it with no issues but searching for the package I want returns nothing
[14:11] <dancek> DarkStar1, did you update? (apt-get update / aptitude update / etc)
[14:12] <DarkStar1> dancek: yeah
[14:12] <DarkStar1> I'm on 10.10 btw
[14:12] <dancek> DarkStar1, does the update hit the repo you added?
[14:13] <DarkStar1> dancek: Looking
[14:16] <lucidguy> _ruben: not inodes .. xfs auto allocates.. checked regardles
[14:16] <DarkStar1> dancek: yeah it's hitting it
[14:16] <ubuntu1111> hello there
[14:16] <ubuntu1111> quick question
[14:16] <lucidguy> llutz: all mount fs's have quite a bit of space remaining
[14:17] <ubuntu1111> just installed ubuntu and i can not eject the cd..  from terminal either...
[14:17] <ubuntu1111> any sugestions?
[14:17] <diverdude> What is the easiest way to add this PPA? https://launchpad.net/~nathan-renniewaldock/+archive/xbmc-nightly
[14:17] <dancek> DarkStar1, are you sure the package you want exists for your platform? if apt did update from the repo, it's very very weird if it doesn't show the packages
[14:17] <SpitfireWP> ubuntu1111, unmounted it?
[14:18] <llutz> sudo add-apt-repository ppa:nathan-renniewaldock/xbmc-nightly diverdude
[14:18] <ubuntu1111> SpitfireWP:  stand by .. pastebin coming
[14:19] <DarkStar1> dancek: Well I just noticed something. The package I want to get is a lucid package but the added ppa using the CLI add command is adding maverick but I have only specified the lucid ppa in sources.list
[14:19] <DarkStar1> the package doesn't exist for maverick but the lucid package works. apparently
[14:20] <dancek> DarkStar1, well if apt knows about the lucid repo, you should see the package anyway
[14:20] <dancek> unless something has changed recently
[14:21] <psychognite> join #bash
[14:21] <ubuntu1111> SpitfireWP:  here is the  pastebin  http://pastebin.com/7J4pM8nV
[14:21] <ubuntu1111> cheers
[14:21] <ubuntu1111> honestly i am running out of ideas.. i tried some all the stuff i could have think abut
[14:22] <dancek> DarkStar1, I've been running different mixes of Debian releases (stable/testing, unstable/experimental etc) for quite a while and never had any problems
[14:22] <dancek> so lucid/maverick should be no problem for apt itself, though it might be a problem with dependencies
[14:22] <DarkStar1> dancek: I'm currently out of ideas as to why it's not finding it. I'm trying to add this: https://launchpad.net/~nathan-renniewaldock/+archive/ppa?field.series_filter=lucid to pull down mysql 5.5
[14:24] <ikonia> llutz: did you extend the file system as well as the volume
[14:24] <llutz> not me ikonia
[14:24] <dancek> DarkStar1, can you put your sources.list and output of `apt-get update` to a pastebin?
[14:25] <ikonia> llutz: sorry
[14:25] <ikonia> lucidguy: did you extend the file system as well as the volume ?
[14:25] <SpitfireWP> ubuntu1111, eh. What's the output of mount?
[14:26] <ubuntu1111> SpitfireWP:  on sec... pastebin coming
[14:26] <dancek> DarkStar1, gee you're unlucky! there's packages for all 10.04-12.04 except 10.10 :)
[14:26] <DarkStar1> dancek: ok
[14:26] <ubuntu1111> SpitfireWP:  here you go..  http://pastebin.com/McfsN2WZ  cheers!
[14:27] <ubuntu1111> SpitfireWP:  here you go..  http://pastebin.com/McfsN2WZ  cheers!  (By the way the dvd is still stuck inside)  :(
[14:28] <SpitfireWP> Hm.
[14:28] <diverdude> when i do sudo apt-add repository https://launchpad.net/~team-xbmc/archive/ppa i get: Error: 'the ppa url' invalid
[14:28] <diverdude> am i doing it wrong?
[14:28] <SpitfireWP> ubuntu1111, the install disk is in it atm, right?
[14:29] <llutz> sudo add-apt-repository ppa:nathan-renniewaldock/xbmc-nightly diverdude
[14:29] <ubuntu1111> SpitfireWP: that's correct
[14:29] <DarkStar1> dancek: http://fpaste.org/wROh/
[14:30] <SpitfireWP> ubuntu1111, what's the machine? And did it install without any problems? And is it otherwise running without any apparent issues?
[14:30] <diverdude> llutz, which ppa is that?
[14:30] <diverdude> llutz, ahh the first one i asked about
[14:31] <SpitfireWP> Honestly this seems odd, and isn't exactly my area of expertise, as I mostly work with shells. :P But, yeah, I'm looking... and worth thinking about any other issues that may have caused it.
[14:32] <ubuntu1111> SpitfireWP:  it;s a macbook pro 8.1 early 2011 I7 processor 8Gb ram installed flowless in 4 minutes or someting.. no probs or whatsoever.. never had any problems in installing anything on it.. among all distros ubuntu has the best support.. heck never had a problem running debian on it.. so..
[14:33] <ubuntu1111> this is really weird.. NOrmally ubuntu supports all the funny mac keyboards.. and there is no need to go dirty on terminal...  but this time even the terminal failed
[14:33] <SpitfireWP> ubuntu1111, sure it's installed and not just running from the disc? xD
[14:34] <dancek> DarkStar1, you only seem to have the source repo there. see line 61? if you add a similar line starting just 'deb' instead of 'deb-src', does it work then?
[14:34] <Daxter> i cant set multiple monitors on 11.10, i have nividia graphics card with its drivers installed
[14:34] <ubuntu1111> :)
[14:34] <ubuntu1111> SpitfireWP:  trust me.. it is installed
[14:34] <SpitfireWP> :P
[14:34] <DarkStar1> dancek: I'll try that. though I'll say that I did the same on my 11.10 system and didnt have issues
[14:36] <SpitfireWP> ubuntu1111, well, if you want to risk screwing up the CD you could try eject -m
[14:36] <SpitfireWP> I dunno if that'd do anything, this is a little baffling.
[14:36] <ubuntu1111> SpitfireWP:  lemme try.. a cd is easy to burn
[14:36] <ubuntu1111> :)
[14:37] <dancek> DarkStar1, that's probably because that PPA has binaries for oneiric. I think apt-add-repository does some magic, but frankly I know basically no details about PPAs. I just know how APT works.
[14:37] <ubuntu1111> SpitfireWP: orilla@gorilla-MacBookPro:~$ eject -m
[14:37] <ubuntu1111> eject: tried to use `/dev/sr0' as device name but it is no block device
[14:37] <ubuntu1111> eject: unable to find or open device for: `cdrom'
[14:37] <ubuntu1111> gorilla@gorilla-MacBookPro:~$
[14:37] <salvatore> Hi. Someone knows how to restore the audio volume controller in the right top of bar? i am using ubuntu 10.04
[14:38] <salvatore> i already made right click on the bar lookin in the applet list
[14:38] <Daxter> salvatore: add indicator applet to panel
[14:38] <salvatore> but no way
[14:38] <Rallias> Is it possible to configure the firewall to let apache listen on port 80 locally, but squid 80 externally?
[14:38] <DarkStar1> dancek: yeah the deb line seems to work as it finds the binaries
[14:38] <salvatore> Daxter could yoou be a bit more clear please?
[14:39] <salvatore> i have also made system->preferences start-application
[14:39] <ubuntu1111> SpitfireWP:  should i try to install pmount?
[14:40] <lucidguy> ikonia: I did ..
[14:40] <Daxter> salvatore: right click panel, select add to panel. in menu that comes up andd the 'indicator applet' there are 2 of these, one adds the messagin menu/sound icons, other add network manager and other type icons
[14:40] <salvatore> but what i am lookin for is no there
[14:40] <ikonia> lucidguy: how did you extend the file system, as part of lvm, or after the lvextend
[14:40] <SpitfireWP> ubuntu1111, haven't heard of it.
[14:40] <Daxter> i dont remember the exact names.. not at 10.04 install right now
[14:40] <salvatore> ok thanks ! works fine!
[14:40] <salvatore> ;)
[14:41] <SpitfireWP> ubuntu1111, try mounting it manually, like: mount -t iso9660 -o ro /dev/cdrom /cdrom
[14:41] <lucidguy> ikonia: lvextend then xfs_growfs
[14:41] <SpitfireWP> Or swap /dev/cdrom for /dev/sr0 if that's what you're using.
[14:41] <ikonia> lucidguy: pretty solid then,
[14:41] <Daxter> glad it works!
[14:41] <SpitfireWP> then see if you can access to iso at /cdrom, just to see if it's there.
[14:41] <lucidguy> ikonia: yeah .. mystery.
[14:42] <Jordan_U> lucidguy: fsck.xfs sounds like the first thing to check.
[14:42] <ikonia> lucidguy: interesting thought, do an ls -i get the inode count, then do an fsck on it, see if the inode count matches
[14:42] <ubuntu1111> SpitfireWP: gorilla@gorilla-MacBookPro:~$ sudo mount -t iso9660 -o ro /dev/cdrom /cdrom
[14:42] <ubuntu1111> mount: special device /dev/cdrom does not exist
[14:42] <ubuntu1111> gorilla@gorilla-MacBookPro:~$
[14:42] <SpitfireWP> Mhm.
[14:43] <SpitfireWP> How about with /dev/sr0 instead of /dev/cdrom?
[14:43] <SpitfireWP> (Then try: eject /cdrom   if that works)
[14:43] <lucidguy> Jordan_U: I personally would to an xfs_check
[14:44] <ubuntu1111> SpitfireWP: gorilla@gorilla-MacBookPro:~$ sudo mount -t iso9660 -o ro /dev/sr0 /cdrom
[14:44] <ubuntu1111> mount: special device /dev/sr0 does not exist
[14:44] <ubuntu1111> gorilla@gorilla-MacBookPro:~$
[14:44] <SpitfireWP> ubuntu1111, oh right. Do you know what the device is for the cd drive?
[14:44] <ubuntu1111> SpitfireWP: gorilla@gorilla-MacBookPro:~$ eject /cdrom
[14:44] <ubuntu1111> eject: tried to use `/cdrom' as device name but it is no block device
[14:44] <ubuntu1111> eject: tried to use `/dev/sr0' as device name but it is no block device
[14:44] <ubuntu1111> eject: unable to find or open device for: `/cdrom'
[14:44] <ubuntu1111> gorilla@gorilla-MacBookPro:~$
[14:44] <ubuntu1111> lsmod?
[14:45] <lucidguy> ikonia: Can't do much with it right now .. is a live fs and nfs exported.  Will perform an xfs_check of regular hours.
[14:45] <ubuntu1111> ok lemme try a lshw
[14:45] <Jordan_U> !pastebin | ubuntu1111
[14:46] <joel_> I have a lengthy command I want to put in a script so I can repeat it later. This command takes input in the form of being pointed to an input file and an outpu file. can someone give me an example in bash of what would be needed? not asking anyone to write this for me just not finding what im looking for.
[14:47] <ikonia> lucidguy: be intersted in the results
[14:48] <SpitfireWP> ubuntu1111, hrm, if that doesn't turn anything up what's the output of: dmesg | grep "CD-ROM"
[14:50] <samba35> how to disable bootsplash
[14:50] <samba35> or delete
[14:51] <auronandace> !text | samba35
[14:51] <ubuntu1111> sudo df
[14:51] <ubuntu1111> bollocks
[14:51] <auronandace> !language | ubuntu1111
[14:51] <samba35> thanks
[14:51] <ubuntu1111> :)
[14:51] <auronandace> samba35: no worries :)
[14:52] <ubuntu1111> ubottu: ! beer
[14:52] <ubuntu1111> ubottu: !beer
[14:52]  * RaTTuS|BIG Gives e-bree to !beer
[14:52] <auronandace> !bot | ubuntu1111
[14:53] <SpitfireWP> ubuntu1111, get anything useful from dmesg? Also try eject -n
[14:53] <ubuntu1111> i am trying
[14:53] <SpitfireWP> Cool
[14:54] <joel_> I have a lengthy command I want to put in a script so I can repeat it later. This command takes input in the form of being pointed to an input file and an outpu file. can someone give me an example in bash of what would be needed? not asking anyone to write this for me just not finding what im looking for.
[14:54] <SpitfireWP> (nvm, I see you already used -n)
[14:54] <samba35> i want to disable bootsplash after system installed
[14:54] <samba35> on ubuntu system
[14:54] <auronandace> joel_: maybe the guys in #bash would be more helpful
[14:55] <Hopsy> hey why doesnt ubuntu support hdmi?
[14:55] <Hopsy> and WHY is my internet not working on ubuntu
[14:55] <Hopsy> only google is working for me
[14:55] <auronandace> Hopsy: hard to tell from all the details you provided
[14:57] <Hopsy> auronandace: what else would you know
[14:58] <Hopsy> I am using a samsung tv with hdmi -.-'
[14:58] <ubuntu1111> SpitfireWP: http://pastebin.com/biWQW5fN
[14:58] <auronandace> Hopsy: you say your internet is not working but google is?
[14:59] <SpitfireWP> ubuntu1111, how about dmesg | grep "CD-ROM"   ?
[14:59] <Hopsy> auronandace: exactly
[14:59] <auronandace> Hopsy: that is rather contradictory
[14:59] <auronandace> Hopsy: your browser works?
[14:59] <Hopsy> that means ubuntu slurps hiddenly my internet connection auronandace
[14:59] <Hopsy> Yes
[14:59] <Hopsy> I also did wget
[15:00] <Hopsy> lynx etc.
[15:00] <Hopsy> but google loads fast
[15:00] <kubanc> how do i disable all compiz effects in ubuntu 10.04 and how can i see which window manager am i running?
[15:00] <Hopsy> and all other websites goes slow and then stops
[15:00] <ubuntu1111> SpitfireWP: no need for paste bin..  the output is  : root@gorilla-MacBookPro:/home/gorilla# dmesg | grep "CD-ROM"
[15:00] <ubuntu1111> root@gorilla-MacBookPro:/home/gorilla#
[15:00] <SpitfireWP> Nothing?
[15:00] <ubuntu1111> that's correct
[15:00] <SpitfireWP> Weird...
[15:00] <auronandace> Hopsy: that is odd, i've never experienced that
[15:00] <SpitfireWP> Are you sure you have a CDROM?
[15:00] <SpitfireWP> :P
[15:00] <ubuntu1111> friggin weird
[15:00] <Hopsy> auronandace: ow, I was using a connection of 50kb/s
[15:01] <ubuntu1111> yeah that's how i have installed it :)
[15:01] <Hopsy> auronandace: when I use a faster connection, it works fine
[15:01] <bluj> ^^ a dvd/cdrom doesnt show in my ubuntu 10.04 either, fwiw
[15:01] <bluj> (dmesg)
[15:01] <SpitfireWP> ubuntu1111, do you mind doing a dmesg | more
[15:01] <bluj> nm, i dmesg -c :-)
[15:01] <Hopsy> BUT it's still odd that it ISNT working
[15:01] <Xaifas> Any of you knows any other terminal command besides "fg" and using "screen" to regain control of a nohup-ed process and to be able to input again? I know there was one but forgot it :/
[15:01] <auronandace> Hopsy: what sites are going slowly?
[15:01] <SpitfireWP> And then looking through it to see if you see something that might be the CD-ROM?
[15:01] <ubuntu1111> ok
[15:01] <Hopsy> auronandace: ALL! except google
[15:02] <Hopsy> gmail
[15:02] <Hopsy> and that sort of stuff
[15:02] <owenll> Hopsy: wireless or wired
[15:02] <Hopsy> wired to my mobile :')
[15:02] <Hopsy> laptop -> mobile connection
[15:02] <dannel> are those same websites slow on your mobile's browser?
[15:02] <Hopsy> No
[15:03] <AdvoWork> hi there, if ive got a file thats 0644  how can i make this overwriteable? currently having to delete the file then upload it
[15:03] <owenll> Hopsy: I don't think it is Ubuntu that's slow, it's your connection
[15:03] <Hopsy> dannel: when I do the same trick on windows, it works great
[15:03] <Hopsy> like now
[15:03] <dannel> Are you using a mobile browser such as opera which compresses the pages?
[15:03] <Hopsy> No owenll, I am sure it is ubuntu
[15:03] <Hopsy> prety sure
[15:04] <SpitfireWP> ubuntu1111, well, there'll probably be a large output. If you know the drive model of anything like that you could fiddle around with dmesg | grep to try and find it.
[15:04] <owenll> Hopsy: have you noticed it slow when using wireless or wired on the same laptop using Ubuntu?
[15:05] <Hopsy> owenll: no
[15:05] <Hopsy> well
[15:05] <Hopsy> it is slower then windows
[15:05] <Hopsy> for some reason
[15:05] <anageol> hi, i have an rsync related question: i have a remote machine that uses hardlink a lot for different stuff. now i want to use rsync to copy the files, but rsync does not preserve the hardlink, so the amount of data grows enormously. has anyone an idea on how to make rsync understand hardlinks?
[15:05] <Hopsy> but I also tried chromion, and had the same effect
[15:06] <awanti_> Hi, I had recently upgraded to Ubuntu 9.04 to 9.10. After few days i am getting grub error 15. I got some links from google. But no luck. So plz. any one can help me out.
[15:06] <DarkStar1> Just a quick question. Has anyone managed to successfully install mysql 5.5 on ubuntu 10.10?
[15:07] <ubuntu1111> SpitfireWP:  i might be on something here..  wait a second please
[15:07] <SpitfireWP> Right.
[15:07] <auronandace> !eol | awanti_
[15:08] <ubuntu1111> SpitfireWP:  here .. when i  fired nautilus as root i was able to see the cdrom  (still not able to eject it )   http://i40.tinypic.com/o6ha0w.png
[15:09] <anageol> got it, it's rsync -H
[15:09] <awanti_> you mean i can't fix this grub error 15
[15:09] <qr223> rsync everything
[15:09] <SpitfireWP> ubuntu1111, odd.
[15:09] <SpitfireWP> ubuntu1111, k, so, this'll be weird.
[15:10] <SpitfireWP> But have you tried turning it off and on again?
[15:10] <auronandace> awanti_: you may be able to but i suggest you use a more recent release
[15:10] <jason404> on a new ubuntu server installation, the default user is 'ubuntu'. this does not seem to be the saem as root on debain, as it still needs sudo, although there is no password. could somebody exolain what is going on?
[15:10] <ubuntu1111> SpitfireWP:  now you can be sure  i have a cd  :)  do you think it is worth removing this line from fstab ?     ------>  # CD/DVD/BluRay this line is added by me
[15:10] <ubuntu1111> /dev/sr0                          /media/cdrom0  udf,iso9660 user,noauto,exec 0  0
[15:10] <AdvoWork> hi there, if ive got a file thats 0644  how can i make this overwriteable? currently having to delete the file then upload it
[15:10] <SpitfireWP> ubuntu1111, perhaps...
[15:10] <auronandace> awanti_: 9.10 isn't supported anymore
[15:10] <SpitfireWP> Also, ubuntu1111, try: eject /cdrom0
[15:11] <ubuntu1111> SpitfireWP: root@gorilla-MacBookPro:/home/gorilla# eject /cdrom0
[15:11] <ubuntu1111> eject: tried to use `/media//cdrom0' as device name but it is no block device
[15:11] <awanti_> yes will upgrade it. But i want to fix this. Plz. help me
[15:11] <ubuntu1111> eject: unable to find or open device for: `/cdrom0'
[15:11] <ubuntu1111> root@gorilla-MacBookPro:/home/gorilla#
[15:11] <SpitfireWP> ubuntu1111, did it actually say "/media//cdrom0"?
[15:11] <auronandace> !grub | awanti_
[15:12] <ubuntu1111> SpitfireWP:  stand by
[15:12] <popsch> will the problem dragging & alt+tab be addressed in 12.04? http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/idea/151/
[15:13] <owenll> awanti_: you've tried this? - "9.10 uses grub2 which doesnt use menu.lst anymore. To update grub2 run
[15:13] <owenll> sudo update-grub2"
[15:13] <ubuntu1111> SpitfireWP: http://i42.tinypic.com/zv4zea.png
[15:14] <kz3> I am using Ubuntu 11.10 (with GNOME 3.2). How should I check if my graphics card is installed or not on my PC?
[15:14] <SpitfireWP> ubuntu1111, try: eject cdrom0
[15:14] <awanti_> owenll! I didn't tried
[15:14] <ubuntu1111> ok
[15:16] <awanti_> using this can i fix  "sudo update-grub2"
[15:16] <ubuntu1111> SpitfireWP: http://i42.tinypic.com/2h5pa2s.png
[15:17] <SpitfireWP> ubuntu1111, blegh
[15:17] <SpitfireWP> ubuntu1111, right, okay.
[15:17] <ubuntu1111> :)
[15:17] <SpitfireWP> I've got to scoot in a second.
[15:17] <ubuntu1111> roger
[15:18] <SpitfireWP> First, try: mount -t iso9660 -o ro /media/cdrom0 /cdrom
[15:18] <SpitfireWP> If that works, then try: eject /media/cdrom0
[15:18] <SpitfireWP> If it doesn't work, then try: eject -m /media/cdrom0
[15:18] <invertiSm> hi, can i get some help regarding mounting a drive thats been corrupted?
[15:18] <ubuntu1111> root@gorilla-MacBookPro:/home/gorilla# mount -t iso9660 -o ro /media/cdrom0 /cdrom
[15:18] <invertiSm> pm me please if possible
[15:18] <ubuntu1111> mount: /media/cdrom0 is not a block device
[15:18] <Voziv> Hello, I was wondering what the ubuntu "keyserver" is. I've seen a few tutorials with steps to add it and I was wondering why?
[15:19] <SpitfireWP> ubuntu1111, any luck on the eject?
[15:20] <ubuntu1111> nope
[15:20] <SpitfireWP> Well, I don't have a clue, then, sorry.
[15:20] <ubuntu1111> no prbs..
[15:20] <SpitfireWP> Only recommendation I can make is power down, then try and see if you can eject it from the boot options.
[15:20] <ubuntu1111> lemme reboot and log in as root to see if ai am able to make it work
[15:20] <SpitfireWP> Right, good luck.
[15:20] <SpitfireWP> Bye for now.
[15:21] <AdvoWork> hi there, if ive got a file thats 0644  how can i make this overwriteable? currently having to delete the file then upload it
[15:21] <invertiSm> how do i remove a specific file through terminal? trying to access a corrupt drive and it wont let me
[15:24] <BluesKaj> hiyas folks
[15:26] <Pici> invertiSm: rm filename
[15:26] <bbbbbbbb> sometimes i get sent back to the login window randomly, looks just like it does when i kill the x server (ctrl alt backspace) - only i don't do anything. how do i fix it?
[15:27] <invertiSm> pici: i need to know the path. is there anyway i can find out without accessing the disk? i cant since its corrupt.
[15:29] <azertyi> hello there
[15:30] <diverdude> How do i see how many cores my computer have?
[15:30] <ubuntu-for-me> hi,do you now there're any channels that discuss normal life because i want to improve my english?
[15:30] <qr223> ubuntu-for-me: "Hi, do you know if there are any channels in which to discuss normal life? I am asking because I would like to improve my English."
[15:31] <isis___> hello everybody. im in trouble with the last upgrade.. it prints "kde-workspace:  Depends: kde-workspace-bin but it is not going to be installed ...unresolvable dependencies...any ideas please? (4.7.4)
[15:31] <azertyi> i got this error : http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=55372
[15:31] <azertyi> what i have to do   ?
[15:31] <usuario> hello
[15:32] <owenll> hi! | usuario
[15:32] <usuario> hi!
[15:32] <popsch> diverdude, cat /proc/cpuinfo
[15:32] <azertyi> E: Unmet dependencies. Try 'apt-get -f install' with no packages (or specify a solution).
[15:32] <diverdude> yea
[15:32] <usuario> hi owenll
[15:33] <simka> Hi guys, please suggest a good gnome2 fork for 11.10 (64bit)
[15:33] <azertyi> apt-get -f install don't work either what i have tod o ?
[15:33] <simka> unity is killing me
[15:33] <Tweak> god day everyone. curious: i used a program (i forget the name now) , something to do with plymouth it was a software to change the plymouth theme. now when i restart, i get only a text login, and upon logging in i have no gui, term only. any idea how i could repair this?
[15:33] <macguges> Hello, does anyone have experience with testdisk? I'm recovering data from ntfs after running ntfsclone backwards.
[15:33] <ubuntu-for-me> qr223,i now know the problems in my ^ sentences do you know any?
[15:33] <usuario> can you speak in spanish?
[15:34] <azertyi> anyone there ?
[15:34] <ikonia> usuario: the guys in #ubuntu-es can
[15:34] <ubuntu-for-me> usuario, say some
[15:34] <mcbaine1> hi
[15:34] <jason404> on a new ubuntu server installation, the default user is 'ubuntu'. this does not seem to be the saem as root on debain, as it still needs sudo, although there is no password. could somebody exolain what is going on?
[15:35] <diverdude> goddamn it...never buy a keyboard without pipe symbol
[15:35] <macguges> Tweak: have you read /var/log/Xorg.log? What happened when the system attempted to start X?
[15:35] <ubuntu-for-me> i've never heart before
[15:35] <invertiSm> how do i get root access?
[15:35] <DarkStar1> Just going to ask again in case anyone has: Has anyone managed to install mysql 5.5 on ubuntu 10.10?
[15:35] <azertyi> hello there
[15:35] <ubuntu-for-me> inverdude,sudo su
[15:35] <ikonia> DarkStar1: `there is no package in the repos
[15:36] <Tweak> macguges: no i have not read it. the system did not attempt to start X, just goes straight to term login (im in a different OS atm to be able to talk here)
[15:36] <ikonia> ubuntu-for-me: no
[15:36] <ikonia> invertiSm: sudo -i
[15:36] <DarkStar1> ikonia: I know it has to be done alternatively so I was wondering if anyone has
[15:36] <ikonia> DarkStar1: depends how you want to do it
[15:37] <DarkStar1> ikonia: I'd like to know how he (or she) did it.
[15:37] <usuario> does anyone know spanish?
[15:37] <ikonia> DarkStar1: it would be a very large task
[15:37] <ikonia> usuario: #ubuntu-es as I've told you
[15:37] <ikonia> DarkStar1: so many things depends on the client, such as apache/php etc
[15:37] <owenll> usario | es!
[15:37] <DarkStar1> ikonia: right now I'm using this method: http://ko3.gleez.org/blogs/mysql-55-on-ubuntu-1010, I however don't want to spend ages on it for it to fail.
[15:38] <usuario> does anyone know spanish?
[15:38] <owenll> spanish!
[15:38] <Pici> !es | usuario
[15:38] <usuario> yes
[15:38] <DarkStar1> ikonia: just the normal command line client
[15:38] <ikonia> DarkStar1: I would strongly advise against that
[15:38] <ikonia> DarkStar1: can I ask why you want mysql 5.5 specfically ?
[15:38] <DarkStar1> ikonia: why?
[15:38] <owenll> Pici sorry gor thosw wrong way round
[15:39] <sskalnik> Is there a better way to get an updated version of the daily build than re-downloading the  image every day?
[15:39] <isis___> hello , im in trouble with the latest upgrade....The following packages have unmet dependencies:  kde-workspace : Depends: kde-workspace-bin (>= 4:4.7.4-0ubuntu0.1~ppa1) but it is not going to be installed , qhat should i do?
[15:39] <ikonia> DarkStar1: fine, no problem, don't care, not interested. Good luck
[15:39] <isis___> Im unable to install kde
[15:39] <DarkStar1> ikonia: the web app I have triggers a bug in the connector, unfortunately for me the version in the official maverick repos hhave the 5.1.49 version
[15:39] <usuario> does anyone know spanish? yes or no?
[15:40] <Tweak> hey guys. just curious if anyone knows how i can get my desktop back ;p when i boot it goes straight to term, i must login through text. theres no errors booting
[15:40] <DarkStar1> ikonia: huh?
[15:40] <usuario>  does anyone know spanish? yes or no?
[15:40] <DarkStar1> ikonia: what did I say?
[15:40] <mneptok> DarkStar1: what is in 5.5 that you need that is not in 5.3?
[15:40] <ikonia> DarkStar1: sorry, I thought you where saying that you didn't want to explain the issue
[15:41] <e01> someone familiar with kernel PAE ?
[15:41] <DarkStar1> mneptok: I don't have 5.3 in my repos
[15:41] <ikonia> DarkStar1: the reason I'm trying to establish why is to see if you do need it as changing the version is a headache due to all the things linked against it
[15:41] <ikonia> e01: just ask the problem
[15:41] <Phr3d13> usuario: we don't, but the people in #ubuntu-es do
[15:41] <e01> ikonia, after install kernel pae, ubuntu wont boot
[15:41] <qr223> /w/w 32
[15:41] <ikonia> e01: can you explain "won't boot"
[15:41] <mneptok> DarkStar1: but ... what is it that MySQL 5.5 has that you need?
[15:41] <DarkStar1> ikonia: I know. I just managed to install in it 11.10 which is my dev machine and it works fine with it
[15:41] <ikonia> DarkStar1: a lot of people just want things due to bigger version numbers, hence checking
[15:42] <macguges> Tweak: so can you login at the terminal? You'll need to read the logs to diagnose whether linux attempted to start X and failed or didn't start X at all.
[15:42] <sskalnik> e01, is this a real computer ,or a virtual machine?
[15:42] <ikonia> DarkStar1: what version is in 11.10 ?
[15:42] <mneptok> !info mysql-server
[15:42] <Tweak> macguges: yeah i can login with term
[15:42] <e01> ikonia, just a blank screen not more, cant enter virtual terminal, the keyboard is not responsible, which mean it make panic or something like that
[15:42] <ikonia> so it's still 5.1
[15:42] <DarkStar1> mneptok: nothing specifically, except that the connector bug doesn't exist in it. to be honest I'm not a mysql expert, and it's an inherited dbase
[15:42] <usuario>  does anyone know spanish? yes or no?
[15:42] <ikonia> e01: do you get the grub menu
[15:42] <ikonia> usuario: can you read the text I'm typing yes/no
[15:42] <e01> sskalnik, real computer, acer laptop intel i7
[15:43] <mneptok> DarkStar1: i'd suggest you use MariaDB 5.3
[15:43] <usuario>  does anyone know spanish? yes or no?
[15:43] <ikonia> usuario: can you read the text I'm typing yes/no
[15:43] <mneptok> DarkStar1: http://downloads.askmonty.org/mariadb/repositories/
[15:43] <DarkStar1> ikonia: the version in the repos in 5.1.58 (I think) and tbh the bug doesn't exist in that
[15:43] <ikonia> DarkStar1: ok - so you don't need mysql 5.5
[15:43] <Phr3d13> usuario: no, try in #ubuntu-es
[15:43] <ikonia> DarkStar1: you just need a later 5.1 build
[15:43] <e01> ikonia, yes i had a grub, after choice the pae kernel load something and then freeze with big dark screen
[15:43] <pangolin> usuario: Escribe "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y dale a enter.
[15:43] <DarkStar1> mneptok: nah. I have to stcik with mySQL
[15:44] <mneptok> DarkStar1: MariaDB *is* MySQL. more so than what Oracle ships.
[15:44] <ikonia> DarkStar1: have you looked in the backports repo to see if 11.04/11.10 has mysql backported ?
[15:44] <usuario> join #ubuntu-es
[15:44] <ikonia> usuario: /join #ubuntu-es
[15:44] <usuario>  /join #ubuntu-es
[15:45] <AdvoWork> hi there, if ive got a file thats 0644  how can i make this overwriteable? currently having to delete the file then upload it
[15:45] <mneptok> DarkStar1: if you want a DB that is 100% MySQL compatible, but does not relegate important new features to the world paid users, use MariaDB
[15:45] <DarkStar1> ikonia: true but they're not in the ppa. I'm tryingto install it on 10.10. I have never heard of the backports repo
[15:45] <DarkStar1> mneptok: thanks. I'll go look into that now
[15:45] <ikonia> DarkStar1: backports is not a PPA
[15:45] <ikonia> DarkStar1: it's an official repo
[15:45] <ikonia> DarkStar1: worth checking
[15:45] <DarkStar1> ikonia: oh
[15:46] <DarkStar1> ok. I can stop this long insane build if they have something I can use
[15:46] <invertiSm> can i get help please? trying to gain access to a corrupt disk.
[15:46] <ikonia> DarkStar1: I would really suggest against using the method in that website
[15:46] <LarsN> I'm attempting to install Sun Java 6 via Apt on 11.10.  I have added the PPA for ferramroberto/java
[15:46] <LarsN> but when I apt-get update I get a GPG error, public key not found.
[15:46] <jutnux> LarsN: I believe the PPA has been removed.
[15:46] <DarkStar1> ikonia: why?
[15:46] <ikonia> DarkStar1: it's a bad approach
[15:46] <ikonia> (in my opinion)
[15:46] <jutnux> LarsN: Just download OpenJDK from Oracle.
[15:46] <LarsN> I have to have access to sun-java-6 vi apt in order to install this juniper vpn client.
[15:47] <LarsN> s/vi/via
[15:47] <jutnux> LarsN: Install OpenJDK.
[15:47] <DarkStar1> ikonia: ok
[15:47] <LarsN> jutnux: guess I'll hack the installer and see if I can make it work with OpenJDK
[15:47] <LarsN> it wants proper JRE/JDK
[15:47] <ikonia> DarkStar1: if push comes to shove, I'll build you a package over the weekend, as I need a package update for 10.04 to test, so I can do one for 10.10
[15:47] <qr223> meat is murder
[15:48] <mneptok> DarkStar1: please /join #maria
[15:48] <usuario>  does anyone know spanish? yes or no?
[15:48] <ikonia> qr223: ubuntu support is in this channel please
[15:48] <DarkStar1> ikonia: Ok
[15:48] <mneptok> DarkStar1: we'll get you sorted
[15:48] <qr223> ikonia: please support my ubuntu
[15:48] <qr223> ty
[15:49] <jutnux> !ot | qr223
[15:49] <qr223> i know ubuntu is an african word but do you have to be black to use it or is that just a myth?
[15:49] <jutnux> Seriously qr223, stick to the topic.
[15:50] <DarkStar1> ikonia: just in case I would appreciate the build for 10.10 if it won't be too much trouble
[15:50] <sskalnik> qr223:  please troll elsewhere
[15:50] <qr223> i just asked a question about ubuntu
[15:50] <qr223> in the ubuntu support channel
[15:50] <jutnux> No, you didn't.
[15:50] <oCean> !ubuntu | qr223
[15:50] <ikonia> DarkStar1: shouldn't be
[15:50] <jutnux> Stop trolling or an OP will probably kick you.
[15:51] <DarkStar1> ikonia: I'll find a way to repay you if you manage it :)
[15:51] <ikonia> DarkStar1: don't worry, I need something similar myself for a 10.04 test, so it's not a big deal, pm me your email and I'll let you know when it's done
[15:52] <RGYAH1> DarkStar1 send 20 bucks by mail
[15:52] <Tweak> what file is read at boot time to tell the system to start the gui, and, how can i recover to a previous version of this file
[15:52] <ikonia> may even have time to do it tomorrow
[15:52] <DarkStar1> RGYAH1: Not to you I hope :p
[15:53] <RGYAH1> yeah i was going to tell you his address
[15:53] <ikonia> RGYAH1: you've been asked to stop the silly comments, please sto
[15:53] <ikonia> stop
[15:53] <jutnux> Jesus christ, why are there so many trolls.
[15:54] <oCean> jutnux: such comment isn't welcome either
[15:54] <ikonia> jutnux: so don't comment and feed it
[15:54] <RGYAH1> jutnux well tough guy. i hope you can handle life just like on IRC
[15:54] <ikonia> RGYAH1: final warning
[15:55] <RGYAH1> buggers think they can control me in an IRC channel
[15:55] <html> ppa, has it any known problems?
[15:55] <RGYAH1> hail ! guys !!
[15:55] <ikonia> html: PPA's have many problems depends on the PPA and ubuntu version
[15:55] <html> 10.10
[15:55] <ikonia> html: depends on the PPA - there are many, and the ubuntu version,
[15:56] <Tweak> !offtopic
[15:56] <html> when i update sometimes it wouldnt let me, others it just .. whatever
[15:56] <ikonia> Tweak: why?
[15:56] <ikonia> html: a lot of PPA's have problems
[15:57] <Tweak> ikonia: because i tried /join the channel and it said it didnt exist, so i wanted to make sure i was trying to join the right channel. sorry
[15:57] <html> Tweak,  you need a kick it the pants
[15:57] <Tweak> wasnt sayin you guys were offtopic
[15:57] <html> or meds
[15:57] <ikonia> html: enough - there is no need to comment
[15:57] <ikonia> Tweak: not a problem
[15:58] <html> well dont DO that here, its ASKING FOR A
[15:58] <pangolin> html: Please stop.
[15:58] <html> ikonia, ok
[15:58] <html> i heard the first time
[16:00] <spyvsspy> hi, I am trying to boot a persistent USB drive (11.10 desktop) I followed the directions exactly as shown here:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCD/Persistence
[16:00] <spyvsspy> except created a ext4 fs, but I keep getting a mounting /dev/scb1 on /cow failed device or resource busy
[16:00] <spyvsspy> any suggestions?
[16:01] <dr_willis> spyvsspy:  how big is theusb flash drive?
[16:01] <spyvsspy> 8G
[16:01] <dr_willis> spyvsspy:  ive done 'full' normal installs to that size flash :) as if it was a real hard drive. they worked decently well.
[16:01] <html> spyvsspy,  that should be fine, how much did you use?
[16:01] <dr_willis> i often have issues with the perisistant type setups
[16:02] <spyvsspy> I did one big partition
[16:02] <spyvsspy> ah, maybe I will just do a full install then
[16:02] <spyvsspy> its for an appliance-type device
[16:02] <dr_willis> with persisant installs, i often have issues when updateing/upgrading and installing some drivers
[16:03] <spyvsspy> k, ya, I dont want that to happen
[16:03] <dr_willis> i tend to just use them to make a 'specific use' setup that never gets updated
[16:04] <yekoms> 64xbit wont work on HP notebooks. ive tried 10.04/11.10 ALT and non ALT. both distort the desktop.
[16:05] <xangua> sounds like a graphic issue yeko
[16:05] <xangua> he went...
[16:05] <dr_willis> hes back
[16:05] <dr_willis> yekoms:  whats your video chipset?
[16:05] <yekoms> nvidia
[16:05] <yekoms> 32bit works fine tho
[16:05] <dr_willis> you installed the nvidia drivers via the package manager tools?
[16:05] <yekoms> uhm. i didnt know i could.
[16:06] <yekoms> i guess ill give it one more try, use the ALT version?
[16:06] <spyvsspy> dr_willis, you have many performance issues w/ a "full" usb install?
[16:06] <dr_willis> some where in the menus is the 'addational drivers' tool
[16:06] <dr_willis> yekoms:  the alt. or desktop cd both should install the same system
[16:06] <spyvsspy> 4GB or ran on the machine, it will mainly be used for displaying flash conent in a browser
[16:06] <spyvsspy> of ram*
[16:06] <yekoms> desktop is distorted on loading the gui installer.
[16:06] <dr_willis> spyvsspy:  its slower then a hd install. but very useable. my main desktop box is running from a 64bit flash drive
[16:06] <dr_willis> 64gb. :)
[16:06] <yekoms> ill try the alt one more time while i burn debian64x to confirm
[16:06] <dr_willis> yekoms:  distorted how?
[16:07] <shaneo> whats a good complier for ubuntu server
[16:07] <ikonia> gcc
[16:07] <dr_willis> shaneo:  for what language?
[16:07] <jutnux> Shaneo: For what?..
[16:07] <shaneo> c+
[16:07] <ikonia> it's the stock gnu product
[16:07] <jutnux> Use g++
[16:08] <shaneo> thanks
[16:08]  * dr_willis wonders how many C compilers there are for linux.. I can only think of 2. gcc, and i think IBM has one.
[16:09] <html> i want the core of ubuntu
[16:10] <dr_willis> !minimal
[16:10] <LarsN> dr_willis: clang, TinyCC,
[16:10] <LarsN> dr_willis: Intel has a non-commercial C++ compiler
[16:10] <iv4nBR> character of the console is very bad. I need a file Lat15-VGA16?  Ubuntu 10.10
[16:11] <alishah> hi, is there any gui to start and stop services? (services like mysql, nginx, php5-fpm)
[16:12] <yekoms> is the driver additon after installing base system?
[16:12] <dr_willis> alishah:  not that ive ever noticed. theres the 'service' command thats normally used
[16:12] <dr_willis> yekoms:  yes. you install the driver after you do tha tinstall
[16:12] <white_buffalo> need some help with some command line commands, anyone up for a query? :D
[16:12] <yekoms> dr_willis, like the same window cut into 4 sections
[16:13] <yekoms> i had a SS of it somewhere
[16:13] <dr_willis> !nomodeset
[16:13] <ubuntunoob> hi quick question
[16:13] <dr_willis> yekoms:  ive had to use the 'nomodeset' option in the past to get a useable desktop, then use the gui installer.
[16:13] <ubuntunoob> how do i enter a folder in terminal
[16:13] <white_buffalo> cd
[16:13] <dr_willis> ubuntunoob:  'cd'
[16:13] <palyo3401> türk var mı
[16:13] <ubuntunoob> yea i know
[16:13] <dr_willis> ubuntunoob:  time to check out some bash tutorials. :)
[16:13] <ubuntunoob> but this folder has a space
[16:13] <ubuntunoob> yea
[16:14] <white_buffalo> tab
[16:14] <white_buffalo> hit tab
[16:14] <dr_willis> cd 'spacy thing'
[16:14] <arkanabar> ubuntunoob: cd "folder name"
[16:14] <dr_willis> tab key is our friend also. :)
[16:14] <ubuntunoob> but the space is at the end
[16:14] <ubuntunoob> like "folder name "
[16:14] <dr_willis> cd 'spacy thing      '
[16:14] <jutnux> then put a space at the end
[16:14] <yekoms> ill try it
[16:14] <ubuntunoob> i did
[16:14] <dr_willis> or   cd thefirstfew<tabkey>
[16:14] <ubuntunoob> I typed cd "New folder "
[16:14] <ubuntunoob> didnt work
[16:14] <dr_willis> what did you use exactly?
[16:14] <white_buffalo> what directory is it in?
[16:14] <ubuntunoob> oh, tab key instead of space bar
[16:15] <ubuntunoob> its a mounted drive
[16:15] <arkanabar> ubuntunoob: that trailing space might have messed you up.
[16:15] <ubuntunoob> tab doesnt work
[16:15] <ubuntunoob> it only beeps
[16:15] <white_buffalo> hit it twice
[16:15] <white_buffalo> :)
[16:15] <ubuntunoob> i dont know why, but i have 2 drives that have the same name
[16:15] <white_buffalo> should list available directories
[16:15] <BarkingFish> Tweak: Are you about?
[16:15] <ubuntunoob> ubuntu apparently added an extra space at the end of one of them to make them different
[16:16] <arkanabar> ubuntunoob: oh, boy.  that can be very annoying indeed.
[16:16] <ubuntunoob> now i cant CD to that folder
[16:16] <ubuntunoob> because it ends with a space
[16:16] <szal> ubuntunoob: yes, you can
[16:16] <ubuntunoob>  I know that you "" when the folder has a space in the middle
[16:16] <Stanley00> ubuntunoob: a space? I think it's a "_" ?
[16:16] <ubuntunoob> but this ends
[16:16] <Tweak> hey guys. just curious if anyone knows how i can get my desktop back ;p when i boot it goes straight to term, i must login through text. theres no errors booting
[16:16] <ubuntunoob> not underscore
[16:16] <dr_willis> ubuntunoob:  the tab key or quotes should work.
[16:16] <ubuntunoob> just space
[16:16] <FloodBot1> ubuntunoob: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:16]  * white_buffalo needs help extracting and installing a tar.gz file from command line
[16:16] <white_buffalo> >.<
[16:17] <arkanabar> ubuntunoob: you might need to open the parent directory in a file manager, select the directory in question, and hit f2 to rename.
[16:17] <dr_willis> ubuntunoob:  its possible its more then 1 space.
[16:17] <jutnux_> white_buffalo: tar -xvzf filename.tar.gz
[16:17] <joeally> Hi guys
[16:17] <BarkingFish> Tweak:  I was checking with you in #ubuntu-offtopic - are you able to start X manually from your term login?
[16:17] <white_buffalo> thanks
[16:17] <ubuntunoob> two spaces didnt work either
[16:17] <white_buffalo> what is the drive name?
[16:17] <dr_willis> ubuntunoob:  use the TAB key to let IT complete the name
[16:17] <iv4nBR> How to adjust the text-only console character? CHARMAP=ISO-8859-1 CODESET=Lat15 FONTFACE=VGA FONTSIZE=16 Ubuntu 10.10
[16:17] <white_buffalo> yes
[16:17] <white_buffalo> do that
[16:17] <Tweak> BarkingFish : actually... i'm not sure how to do that
[16:17] <ubuntunoob> when i press tab the computer beeps
[16:18] <forgotten> beep beep
[16:18] <dr_willis> fill in a few more characters
[16:18] <Paperino> sera
[16:18] <ubuntunoob> WOW\
[16:18] <BarkingFish> Tweak: What you need to do is login on the terminal, then type  startx  - if you're logged in on root, it'll start a root session, if you're logged in normally, it should start a regular session
[16:18] <ubuntunoob> im so stupid
[16:18] <ubuntunoob> it worked!
[16:18] <forgotten> lol
[16:18] <dr_willis> hit tab key twice quickly.. and it shows all the possible completions
[16:18] <ubuntunoob> it was an underscore yes, you were right
[16:19] <Tweak> BarkingFish: alright, i'm going to reboot now and try that. thank you. be right back.
[16:19] <dr_willis> repeate after me... 'the tab key is our friend, we will use it all the time' :)
[16:19] <ubuntunoob> im running ubuntu 8.04 btw
[16:19] <jutnux> BarkingFish: That isn#t starting it automatically though.
[16:19] <jutnux> Is 8.04 still supported?
[16:19] <dr_willis> ubuntunoob:  bash is bash :)
[16:19] <dr_willis> !8.04
[16:19] <ubuntunoob> dunno
[16:19] <szal> jutnux: on the server, yes; on the desktop, no
[16:19] <dr_willis> as of may.. Nope. :)
[16:19] <ubuntunoob> but my computer is onld
[16:19] <ubuntunoob> old
[16:19] <ubuntunoob> thats why i use it
[16:20] <forgotten> !upgrade
[16:20] <BarkingFish> jutnux: the situation is that x isn't starting on boot for Tweak - i'm trying to ascertain whether X will start at all.
[16:20] <ubuntunoob> whats the oldest ubuntu someone should use_
[16:20] <dr_willis> ubuntunoob:  that dosent really follow.. many newer disrtos work good on older hardware.
[16:20] <ubuntunoob> ?
[16:20] <joeally> I accidentally removed the contents of the /usr/share/themes directory (stupid I know). I have since restored all of the default themes to /usr/share/themes, however I not able to change themes from the default ugly grey theme in Unity and GNOME-shell won't start. How can I restore the themes properly
[16:20] <szal> ubuntunoob: on the desktop, 10.04
[16:20] <ubuntunoob> yea but my video card drivers dont work on recent ubuntus
[16:20] <BluesKaj> ubuntunoob, how old is your pc ?
[16:20] <dr_willis> ubuntunoob:  i normally say the latest LTS. or the latest.. depending on your needs.
[16:20] <BarkingFish> Normally if it doesn't kick in at boot, it suggests something is wrong, so by starting X manually, any errors will get presented in the terminal
[16:20] <forgotten> Linux ulappy 3.0.0-14-generic #23-Ubuntu SMP Mon Nov 21 20:34:47 UTC 2011 i686 athlon i386 GNU/Linux
[16:20] <forgotten> <- old ass laptop
[16:20] <ubuntunoob> i have to use open source drivers
[16:20] <jutnux> ubuntunoob: Run the latest version with XFCE then.
[16:20] <ubuntunoob> good idea
[16:20] <ubuntunoob> :)
[16:20] <arkanabar> Lucid Puppy is worth considering if you're not having luck with any of the 'buntus.
[16:21] <dr_willis> lubuntu has gotten very very well done in 11.10
[16:21] <ubuntunoob> ill try later
[16:21] <iv4nBR> Does anyone have the file Lat15-VGA16.psf.gz?
[16:21] <szal> arkanabar: we don't support Puppy here
[16:21] <dr_willis> !find  Lat15-VGA16.psf.gz
[16:21] <ubuntunoob> puppy linux?
[16:21] <ubuntunoob> thats old
[16:21] <ubuntunoob> :D
[16:21] <forgotten> i haven't found much wrong yet dr_willis
[16:21] <dr_willis> Puppy linux has new versions out.. but thats for another channel. :)
[16:21] <ubuntunoob> brb
[16:21] <joeally> does anyone know what the package name for the default themes is?
[16:21] <forgotten> need to compile custom non-smp kernel tho, see how that goes :D
[16:22] <White_Buffalo> jutnux, may i query please?
[16:22] <xangua> forgotten: ubuntu light themes or something like that
[16:22] <forgotten> xangua, eh?
[16:22] <joeally> okay i'll try that
[16:22] <jutnux> White_Buffalo: Go for it.
[16:22] <xangua> sorrym that was fot joeally
[16:22] <forgotten> k :)
[16:23] <joeally> hmm apt-get does not recognise it
[16:23] <joeally> I wish I still had synaptic package manager
[16:23] <White_Buffalo> why not do
[16:23] <BarkingFish> and you still can have, joeally
[16:23] <BluesKaj> joeally, sudo apt-get install synaptic
[16:23] <White_Buffalo> sudo apt-get install synaptic
[16:23] <xangua> !info light-themes | joeally
[16:23] <White_Buffalo> ?
[16:24] <BarkingFish> it's still available
[16:24] <xangua> joeally: sudo apt-get install synaptic
[16:24] <White_Buffalo> lol
[16:25] <joeally> thanks guys
[16:25] <joeally> I'll try light themes
[16:25] <joeally> thanks guys
[16:26] <joeally> anyone know the package name for the default gnome3/gnome-shell themes?
[16:26] <iv4nBR> I found the LAt15-VGA in / usr / share / consolefonts. And already configured via setfont and dpkg-reconfigure console-setup and the console is still bad
[16:27] <sskalnik> joeally:  apt-cache search "gnome theme"?
[16:27] <joeally> okay
[16:29] <joeally> thanks guys
[16:30] <joeally> that really helped
[16:30] <sskalnik> np
[16:31] <White_Buffalo> thanks for your help guys :)
[16:31] <White_Buffalo> got it all sorted :)
[16:33] <benwah> Hey guys, my autocomplete behaviour for certain commands (e.g.: cp and ln) is really annoying and unusual. Anyone know where I can change that?
[16:34] <jutnux> What is the auto complete behaviour that you want to change?
[16:34] <benwah> for example: cp ../e<tab>  will result in cp ../envs <-- space instead of cp ../envs/
[16:34] <benwah> It wasn't like that before
[16:34] <benwah> Maybe it started after an update or something?
[16:35] <kelevrinika> anyone know if the next release of ubuntu will include a better version of the gnome 2 fallback?
[16:35] <szal> benwah: that depends on what the target that is completed actually is..  if it's a directory, you get the / at the end, if it's a symlink, you don't
[16:36] <szal> kelevrinika: -> #ubuntu+1
[16:36] <benwah> szal, the target is a directory though
[16:36] <oCean> benwah: check the /etc/bash_completion.d directory, something that you have installed can have added a completion config file that breaks the usual behaviour
[16:36] <benwah> oCean, ill check thanks
[16:36] <kelevrinika> szal is that an official release?
[16:36] <oCean> benwah: I know for a fact that installing acrobat reader does (or did?) that
[16:37] <szal> kelevrinika: no, it's the 'rolling' channel for the next *buntu release
[16:37] <Guest88177> any1 know about sound troubleshooting for ubuntu 11.1?
[16:37] <kelevrinika> cool thanks
[16:38] <benwah> oCean, oh damn.. I actually recently tried (and failed) to install acrobat reader (didn't work because it's i386 and my systme is 64 bits)
[16:38] <benwah> oCean, that must be the reason... ah I hate you adobe!
[16:40] <oCean> benwah: search for the file in /etc/bash_completion.d and remove it, that should fix the bash completion issues
[16:41] <arkanabar> Guest88177: what are you trying to do?
[16:42] <Guest88177> just tryin to make the sound work for ubuntu 11.1... I checked to see if the sound card is being detected and it is but ive done all i can think of to try and make it work and im still getting nothin via speakers or headphone jack
[16:44] <arkanabar> Guest88177: did you try installing the gnome alsamixer?  And 11.10 is the release date, not version number.
[16:45] <Guest88177> no i didnt try that ill give that a go and see what happens. And i been out of the loop for a bit lol... well thank you ill give alsa a try and i may or may not be back thanks again
[16:45] <BarkingFish> Any sign of Tweak yet?
[16:46] <arkanabar> look for the gnome version of alsamixer.  I'm not using gnome right now, couldn't tell you its specific package name.
[16:46] <BarkingFish> I'm pretty sure it doesn't take 30 minutes to reboot :)
[16:46] <szal> !sound | Guest88177
[16:47] <BluesKaj> Guest2384678, open alsamixer in the terminal , check the ctrls there , and your soundcard should be listed in the upper left
[16:48] <owner__> anyone know a good app for me=
[16:48] <owner__> a fun app
[16:48] <jutnux> Guest88177: Can you print screen your alsamixer?
[16:49] <drworm> This is annoying the bejeezus out of me: the window resize bar width is like 1 pixel, and it needs to be bigger. My Google-fu is sucking today as well. Please, please tell me how to fix this.
[16:49] <arkanabar> owner__ -- install chromium-browser, and get Angry Birds for it.
[16:50] <s-hitman> hi guys could you please answer to a simple question i have
[16:50] <CydeWeys> I have my display hooked up to my PC using an HDMI cable.  If I disconnect and reconnect the HDMI cable the video output never comes back on.  The PC is otherwise fine (I can SSH into it and shut it down that way).
[16:50] <CydeWeys> Any thoughts?
[16:50] <owner__> i got angry birds, it is really funny
[16:50] <sskalnik> !ask > s-hitman
[16:50] <owner__> what do you thing about security tools for a smartphone?
[16:50] <dr_willis> owner__:  not sure how thats related to 'ubuntu support'
[16:51] <owner__> oh ok ^
[16:51] <owner__> ^
[16:51] <owner__> thats true
[16:51] <sskalnik> owner__:  that's not an ubuntu issue, but PM me if you want an opinion
[16:51] <jimmy8888> how do i hide the titlebar in firefox 8 in xubuntu 11.10 ?
[16:51] <jimmy8888> so that i just have tabs at the top of the screen (similar to chrome)
[16:53] <s-hitman> i have my tv tuner working on ubuntu 10.10 but not on xubuntu 10.10. What is the proccess for copying a driver to work from one distro to another?
[16:53] <dr_willis> s-hitman:  the drivers should be identical.
[16:53] <ikonia> the kernel is identical
[16:53] <dr_willis> s-hitman:  the core of the os is identical in both of your exaples normally
[16:54] <jutnux> jimmy8888: I don't think you can.
[16:54] <dr_willis> s-hitman:  you could check the output of 'lsmod' and compare the working, to nonworking systems.
[16:54] <jesfre> If I was to run Ubuntu 11.1 as Virtual Machine, what would be the min requirements for it to run smoothly?
[16:54] <ikonia> jesfre: same as physical
[16:54] <dr_willis> jesfre:  what sort of work do you want to do in the vm?
[16:55] <jutnux> jesfre: Smoothly you'd want at least 1gb of ram.
[16:55] <arkanabar> s-hitman: you may be talking about a front end package for handling your tv tuner; try clicking "help > about" in your tvtuner interface & see what you get.
[16:55] <s-hitman> @dr_willis @ikonia do you mean that if the kernels are the same then the tv tuner should have worked for both distro?
[16:55] <dr_willis> s-hitman:  yes.
[16:55] <jesfre> Mostly getting to know how to use the linux system, sandbox really.
[16:55] <ikonia> s-hitman: what application are you using to use the card
[16:56] <dr_willis> jesfre:  requirements would be fairly minimal then.
[16:56] <jimmy8888> jutnux: i managed to hide the titlebar by installing this addin "hide Caption Titlebar plus"
[16:56] <dr_willis> jesfre:  ive had issues with unity in vbox. I tend to run lubuntu in vbox.
[16:56] <s-hitman> i thought that same kernel doesnt mean the same hardware detection
[16:56] <s-hitman> its the distro
[16:56] <dr_willis> same kernel = same 'drivers' installed... normally
[16:56] <jesfre> Good to know. Thank you!
[16:56] <s-hitman> that puts extra modules
[16:56] <dr_willis> as far as i know theres no 'extra' modules for tuner cards.
[16:57] <dr_willis> if so then the 'addational-drivers' tool might show them
[16:57] <arkanabar> s-hitman: what app are you using to control your tv tuner?  If you install it in xubuntu, it should pull in all needed dependencies.
[16:57] <TBotNik> All:  Cannot find a HOWTO on setting up Apache to allow .asp and .aspx file types for web pages.  I'm sure there is one, so URL please.
[16:57] <dr_willis> the 'lsmod' command on a working vs non working system. would show what modules are loaded.
[16:57] <ikonia> TBotNik: asp is a microsoft technology
[16:57] <ikonia> TBotNik: that's why you can't find a guide
[16:57] <ikonia> TBotNik: it's also a dead technology now too
[16:57] <s-hitman> kaffeine i am using
[16:58] <s-hitman> but it is not working on xubuntu
[16:58] <ikonia> isn't kaffeine kde ?
[16:58] <dr_willis> !info tvtime
[16:58] <s-hitman> yes
[16:58] <TBotNik> ikonia: Duh, but have sever that customer delivered .aspx to do need it to render!
[16:58] <dr_willis> try other tv tuner apps. run them from terminal, look for error messages s-hitman
[16:58] <richilz> hola
[16:58] <ikonia> TBotNik: ok - so apache doesn't support microsoft asp
[16:58] <richilz> como  puedo actualiza mozilla
[16:59] <ikonia> TBotNik: there is mono - but I don't believe there are apache modules for that
[16:59] <richilz> nopuedo y ya no puedo entrar a algunas paginas que si podia
[16:59] <Pici> !es | richilz
[16:59] <xangua> !fx6 | richilz
[16:59] <s-hitman> guys hardware detection is based only on the kernel version??
[16:59] <jutnux> Isn't Firefox 8 out now?
[17:00] <arkanabar> jutnux: actually, 9 was recently released.  hasn't made it into the ubuntu repos yet.
[17:00] <dr_willis> s-hitman:  the kernel version defines what 'modules' are installed. theres other services that can auto load them as needed.
[17:00] <dr_willis> s-hitman:  the lsmod command shows what modules are in use.
[17:00] <TBotNik> ikonia: Yes it does, it is a filetyp setting and then you have to load "frontpage extensions" and then it works.  All hosting companies have this setup as default so they can load anything and they mostly use Ubuntu.
[17:00] <ikonia> TBotNik: frontpage extensiosn is dead
[17:00] <usuario> HI
[17:00] <richilz> no puedo usar el firefos en algunas paginas
[17:00] <usuario> por?
[17:00] <richilz> es una versiona antigua y necesitoactualizar pero no puedo
[17:01] <usuario> ok
[17:01] <genii-around> !es
[17:01] <sskalnik> !es > richilz
[17:01] <TBotNik> ikonia: We loaded the mono, but need to add the filetype in apache so the pages render.
[17:01] <mang0> How can I do a screencast recording on linux? I'd like to create a tutorial for a particular program, but no luck yet :S all the programs I've tried have messed up. And I tried using ffmpeg to record (I can paste command if you like) and it recorded fine, with no lag, but the actual recording file itself played laggily (is that a word?!)
[17:01] <genii-around> richilz: eg: /join #ubuntu-es
[17:01] <s-hitman> @ dr_willis  so even if the modules are in the kernel they may not have been loaded...
[17:01] <ikonia> TBotNik: file type is just a line in the config file
[17:01] <richilz> alguien sabe como????ç
[17:01] <usuario>  /join #ubuntu-es
[17:01] <ikonia> TBotNik: which are you using mono or frontpage extensions ?
[17:01] <usuario> como k
[17:01] <richilz> twenty
[17:02] <richilz> antes si podia pero ahora no
[17:02] <usuario> el k?
[17:02] <richilz> en el oredenador de mi hermano si puedo entrar
[17:02] <richilz> es una version mas reciente
[17:02] <pangolin> !es | richilz usuario
[17:03] <Lcawte> hmm, what does Ubuntu use to manage power? Because for some reason I don't have power nap, and I can't find what is used to manage power etc, because my computer doesnt boot 11.04 or 11.10 but does 10.10 fine. Any idea how on earth I can fix this, or where my power-related config options are
[17:03] <TBotNik> ikonia: Duh, but I can not find the right config file in Ubuntu to effect the change.  Under my WAMP sever it is in the httpd.conf, but that file is blank in Ubuntu and the apache2.conf has nothing that comes close, so loosing my mind here.
[17:03] <ikonia> TBotNik: can you stop saying "duh" and trying to be sarcastic, I'm trying to help by understanding what you are doing and resolving the issue
[17:04] <arkanabar> Lcawte: try installing xfce4-power-manager
[17:04] <krush_> hows everyone
[17:04] <richilz> bueno bye
[17:04] <richilz> andiesabe
[17:04] <ironfoot495> hello
[17:04] <ironfoot495> hello
[17:04] <krush_> hi
[17:05] <usuario> hola
[17:05] <Lcawte> arkanabar: Oh, and I'm running ubuntu server btw (xfce is a desktop thingy like Unity and Gnome right?)
[17:05] <arkanabar> Lcawte: yes.  you are probably better off w/o it then.
[17:05] <TBotNik> ikonia: OK, just in a hurry on my end cause not even my problem, just trying to help another Ubox user, between projects.  And thanks for the help, Hey on your post on mono, We installed the mono, could not find the frontpage extensions, but would prefer that as I remember was really simple and mono is labor instensive.
[17:06] <ikonia> TBotNik: mono does not contain frontpage extensions
[17:06] <Lcawte> arkanabar: for some reason, 11.04 upwards is wanting too much power so I can't get past POST
[17:06] <krush_> im trying to run a app on my desktop as admin but it wont start
[17:06] <usuario> alguien habla español?
[17:06] <ikonia> TBotNik: this is why I was asking if you where using mono or frontpage extensions
[17:06] <ikonia> usuario: this is your LAST warning, before you get banned
[17:06] <ikonia> usuario: join #ubuntu-es
[17:06] <sskalnik> !es > usuario
[17:06] <ikonia> usuario: type "/join #ubuntu-es"
[17:07] <arkanabar> Lcawte: there's some sort of kernel boot parameter that helps with that, and I'm having a brain fade.
[17:08] <TBotNik> ikonia: Well my friend loaded mono. We still can not make it work.  He is monitoring this, user = ironfoot495
[17:08] <usuario>  join #ubuntu-es
[17:08] <ikonia> TBotNik: mono doesn't contain front page extensions, so that's not going to work
[17:08] <ikonia> usuario: /join #ubuntu-es
[17:08] <usuario>  /join #ubuntu-es
[17:08] <ironfoot495> Hello  ikonia:
[17:08] <ikonia> hello
[17:08]  * _NiC gives ikonia a pat on the back
[17:09] <ironfoot495> really need the help.
[17:09] <ikonia> ironfoot495: I understand that,
[17:09] <TBotNik> ikonia: OK where do we get the frontpage extension, we could not find it in google with "ubuntu howto enable .asp web pages".  Instead we got all this stuff on mono.
[17:09] <arkanabar> Lcawte: are you using the sandy bridge processor?
[17:09] <ironfoot495> I've worked on this for over a week now totallt exhausted
[17:09] <ikonia> TBotNik: it's dead, apache 2.2 doesn't support it
[17:10] <ikonia> TBotNik: this is why I'm asking the questions of what you are using
[17:10] <_NiC> TBotNik, ironfoot495, do yourselves a favor, and forget that there ever was something called "frontpage extensions".
[17:10] <TBotNik> ikonia: OK what would do?  Step-by-step or URL to a HOWTO
[17:10] <ikonia> TBotNik: I would not do it
[17:10] <ikonia> TBotNik: as the product you want to use is dead in modern linux
[17:11] <ironfoot495> step by step sounds better to me thx.
[17:11] <Natverkslista> !info irssi
[17:11] <ikonia> ironfoot495: the product you want to use is dead.
[17:12] <Lcawte> arkanabar: huh?
[17:12] <ironfoot495> Ibeleive but I rreally need to give it mouth to mouth  because of the preson that's requiring this.
[17:12] <ikonia> ironfoot495: you can't - it's DEAD
[17:12] <ikonia> ironfoot495: it won't work in apache 2.2
[17:12] <ironfoot495> well what do I do then?
[17:12] <_NiC> ironfoot495, tell the person who seems to be stuck in the past, that he can't hav eit.
[17:13] <ikonia> ironfoot495: you don't run it on linux is the real answer (I understand you want to though)
[17:13] <_NiC> he has to man up and move on with his life. Or website.
[17:13] <TBotNik> ikonia: Dude, I can not get into the philosophy or why's we just have to deliver, so that is why we are here, to find someone that knows how to do this.  Believe me it is not dead as every ISP like Host Gator, GoDaddy, etc all use this and from latest versions of LAMP stack, so again:  How do I do this?
[17:13] <ironfoot495> I hear you is there an alternative?
[17:13] <ikonia> TBotNik: they don't
[17:13] <ikonia> TBotNik: the lamp stack is "PHP" not asp
[17:13] <arkanabar> Lcawte: Phoronix has had reports since the 2.6.38 kernel of greatly increased power usage, particularly w/ Intel Sandy Bridge processors.
[17:13] <arkanabar> Lcawte: see eg. http://www.webupd8.org/2011/12/cinnamon-gnome-shell-fork-with-gnome2.html
[17:13] <_NiC> LAMP = Linux Apache MySQL PHP. Nothing about asp or frontrange.
[17:14] <arkanabar> crap, wrong link.
[17:14] <arkanabar> http://www.techytalk.info/linux-kernel-2-6-38-2-6-39-power-regression-workaround/
[17:14] <TBotNik> ikonia: I'm staring at a CPanel right now that says they do.  Sorry real world always trumps philosophical.
[17:14] <_NiC> TBotNik, I guess you could install some old software filled with security holes, but...
[17:15] <dr_willis> arkanabar:  heh.. interesting news however.. :) I have to wonder why they have to fork gnome shell. when it in theory should be very themeable if they know javascript
[17:15] <llutz> TBotNik: godaddy: Server: Microsoft-IIS/7.5
[17:15] <ikonia> TBotNik: then it must be on an OS that has a very old version of apache
[17:15] <ikonia> ha ha ha ha
[17:15] <ikonia> I'm looking at a server that supports ASP - yes, it's Microsoft IIS
[17:15] <arkanabar> dr_willis: was a wrong link, copied it out of another channel, didn't mean to paste it here.
[17:16] <dr_willis> arkanabar:  :)  still worth bookmarking for all the 'i want gnome 2......' people that i see in here.
[17:16] <jutnux> TBotNik: Being rude isn't going to help.
[17:16] <arkanabar> I have only keyboards that vary from "slightly wonky" to "total garbage" right now... new one on order.
[17:16] <popey> mang0: i use ffmpeg to record screencasts, works well
[17:17] <llutz> ikonia: TBotNik: well, hostgator: Apache/2.2.17 (Unix) mod_ssl/2.2.17 OpenSSL/0.9.8h mod_auth_passthrough/2.1 mod_bwlimited/1.4 FrontPage/5.0.2.2635
[17:17] <ikonia> popey: how ?
[17:17] <popey> mang0: https://launchpad.net/ffscreencast thats the script I use
[17:17] <ikonia> llutz: where is that coming from the extension package ?
[17:17] <TBotNik> _NiC: Hey unless we run it through the .NET to PHP converter we don't care about the security, because if the customer does not know enough to be secure and do PHP dev, we are only obligated to post the files and make them work.
[17:17] <llutz> ikonia: no idea
[17:17] <ikonia> I wonder if it's something they maintain personally
[17:18] <popey> mang0: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6UEAny3XFic is an example of a video made with it
[17:18] <llutz> ikonia: i only checked server-info
[17:18] <ikonia> based on one of the older versions and they have brought it forward as the official package is dead and actually states will not work on 2.2
[17:18] <non3> is there a distribution who can natively run win32 code>?
[17:18] <ikonia> non3: no
[17:18] <llutz> non3: its called" windows"
[17:18] <non3> but close to that?
[17:19] <Daxter> non3: have you heard of wine?
[17:19] <dr_willis> non3:  such a thing was attempted ages ago.. but died :)
[17:19] <non3> yes but, there are lots of bugs
[17:19] <arkanabar> non3:  you need to search appdb.winehq.org for your particular app, I find it very helpful for finding a suitable distro.
[17:19] <_NiC> TBotNik, it seems there are some hits on google for this. I assume you've tried that?
[17:19] <jutnux> TBotNick: So you're going to open up a customer to lots of security holes?
[17:19] <dr_willis> non3:  any windows apps on linux. will most likely be using wine in some form.
[17:19] <sskalnik> ikonia:  Not even http://www.reactos.org/en/index.html ? Bugs and unstable status aside...
[17:19] <ikonia> TBotNik: check the version info llutz just posted
[17:20] <_NiC> TBotNik, also I wish you the best of luck.. :-)
[17:20] <ikonia> TBotNik: see if you can search for that package
[17:20] <ikonia> sskalnik: it says "this is not linux"
[17:20] <ikonia> sskalnik: so it's not a distribution
[17:20] <TBotNik> All: We are hosting on amazon, and they also have this, but also have alternative IIS instance available as well.  The DB they are servicing is MySQL though, which is not available in IIS, so trying to support this customer right.  Maybe need both with DB on LAMP and IIS web pointing to it?
[17:20] <sskalnik> ikonia:  True
[17:21] <ikonia> TBotNik: you can connect to mysql through IIS just fine
[17:21] <ikonia> TBotNik: you can also run mysql server on windows
[17:21] <_NiC> TBotNik, I'm pretty sure IIS doesn't care about your database software.
[17:21] <necromancer> can i install the red5 flash streaming server using apt somehow?
[17:21] <TBotNik> All: Sorrry y'all are posting faster than I can both read and type.
[17:21] <ikonia> TBotNik: take your time
[17:22] <dr_willis> necromancer:  if you can find a .deb of it.
[17:22] <dr_willis> necromancer:  or build your own deb from source.
[17:22] <necromancer> dr_willis: nah i mean like, is it on APT
[17:22] <necromancer> already
[17:22] <dr_willis> necromancer:  use the package manager tools and search for it?
[17:22] <TBotNik> ikonia: But MySQL does not load on IIS so have to remote to it right?
[17:22] <necromancer> i'm building from src now but it sucks
[17:22] <ikonia> TBotNik: it works fine
[17:22] <ikonia> TBotNik: the mysql client is accessable via IIS
[17:23] <dr_willis> necromancer:  there also might be PPA's for it. if its not in the repos.
[17:23] <ikonia> TBotNik: your application just needs to call the connect api
[17:23] <Matt040804> I have Pidgin installed, is there a way to remove "Chat" from the "envelope menu"?
[17:23] <_NiC> TBotNik, why would mysql load on iis? mysql is not a plugin to iis (or apache for that matter).
[17:24] <Daxter> how can i get a os-prober script in grub customized with grub customizer to see new kernel of other os?
[17:24] <_NiC> TBotNik, mysql loads on *windows* or whatever OS you're using.
[17:24] <sskalnik> necromancer:  apt-cache search red5
[17:24] <trism> Matt040804: uninstall empathy
[17:24] <TBotNik> ikonia: Installs vs. Works are way too far apart.  I find no install method in the accounts we have so that is why I am asking about "install" not works.  If it installs it should work, but have had issues with all that before, so asking to avoid extra issues.
[17:24] <ikonia> TBotNik: it works %100
[17:24] <trism> Matt040804: you'll need to log out/back in before it disappears
[17:24] <dr_willis> Daxter:  if the other os's dont change  much yu could just make a custome entry for them in /etc/grub.d/40_custom - ive done that for a few disrtos i just boot rarely
[17:25] <TBotNik> ikonia: Still did not answer the installs Q.  Sorry don't mean to be redundant.
[17:25] <ikonia> TBotNik: you seem to have it in your head what works and doesn't - so I'll leave you to find your own path, try to find the frontpage extensions package LoRez posted
[17:25] <ikonia> TBotNik: llutz posted sorry
[17:25] <arkanabar> Matt040804: also, don't fear if your package manager wants to uninstall "ubuntu-desktop" or anything like that, it's a metapackage.
[17:25] <Matt040804> trism: thanks
[17:25] <ikonia> TBotNik: I can't find it at all, so it maybe an internal package, but that is your best option if you insist on going down this path
[17:25] <TBotNik> All,  I never saw a post from LoRez
[17:25] <ikonia> TBotNik: llutz
[17:25] <LoRez> yeah, stop that.
[17:26] <Penpaper> anyone know a fast text viewer that doesn't use any undo redo so it loads fast in ubuntu?
[17:26] <ikonia> LoRez: my fault,
[17:26] <trism> arkanabar: empathy is only a recommend of ubuntu-desktop, so it shouldn't
[17:26] <jutnux> Penpaper: Just use nano or vim.
[17:27] <TBotNik> llutz: What link did you post?
[17:27] <LoRez> since I'm speaking in here...  is there a way to get ucf to bugger off and never ask to replace a configuration file I've changed?
[17:27] <mang0> popey: Great, thanks :D
[17:27] <isis___> does anybody have any idea why i keep getting "kde-plasma-desktop : Depends: plasma-desktop (>= 4:4.4.3) but it is not going to be installed" while trying to install kde??? please
[17:27] <llutz> Daxter: most distros set a link /vmlinuz and /initrd.img  to the newest (default) kernel. just create a 40_custom pointing on it
[17:27] <llutz> ikonia: TBotNik: well, hostgator: Apache/2.2.17 (Unix) mod_ssl/2.2.17 OpenSSL/0.9.8h mod_auth_passthrough/2.1 mod_bwlimited/1.4 FrontPage/5.0.2.2635
[17:28] <nikke> Is it possible to hide that left "panel" ?
[17:28] <llutz> TBotNik: not a link, just version infos you might check with google
[17:28] <nikke> and i want that if i alt+tab i want to show only windows on active desktop
[17:28] <arkanabar> isis___: try "sudo apt-get update" and "sudo apt-get upgrade" and THEN try to install kde.
[17:28] <arkanabar> nikke: it's possible to make it autohide, but it's central to the unity interface.
[17:28] <mang0> popey: England ftw :)
[17:29] <TBotNik> llutz, ikonia, _NIC:  Have any of you hosted with Amazon?
[17:29] <mang0> opticlove: You are british, correct?
[17:29] <mang0> oops
[17:29] <jutnux> Amazon is terrible.
[17:29] <ikonia> TBotNik: yes, many times
[17:29] <nikke> arkanabar: all right how do i auto hide it?
[17:29] <mang0> popey: You are brit, correct?
[17:29] <_NiC> TBotNik, no.
[17:29] <isis___> arkanabar: i did , same story, dunno why
[17:29] <coldflame> hi everybody i have some trouble setting up my dual screen desktop...i have ubuntu 11.10 and i have installed ati proprietary drivers, my problem is that when i try to set up my desktop on the ati catalyst and i click apply the catalyst window disappears and everything is like before
[17:30] <arkanabar> nikke: I remember reading about it.  google unity launcher autohide configure and see what you can find.
[17:30] <TBotNik> ikonia: and no trouble with IIS using MySQL, though by your admission you probably never did?
[17:30] <coldflame> someone can help??
[17:30] <ikonia> TBotNik: never did what ?
[17:30] <popey> mang0: ya
[17:30] <TBotNik> ikonia: Used IIS MySQL under amazon?
[17:30] <mang0> popey: Coolio. Where abouts in England are you? I'm in Devon.
[17:31] <ikonia> TBotNik: not under amazon, but outside of amazon sure
[17:31] <ikonia> TBotNik: I use the Linux platform on amazon
[17:31] <arkanabar> coldflame: hit "ok" instead.
[17:31] <nikke> arkanabar: my other problem then? the alt+tab
[17:32] <jesfre> FYI - fast download with Lubuntu. :)
[17:32] <arkanabar> coldflame: also, make sure you invoke the administrator version of catalyst.
[17:32] <rikki> ubuntu
[17:32] <TBotNik> ikonia: OK well that is what we are trying to do, but customer delivered all these .aspx web pages and we are linux guys trying to make this work, and we don't do Windows, but got backed into this one.
[17:32] <arkanabar> nikke: this is one of the reasons I prefer unity 2d (and lxde)
[17:33] <ikonia> TBotNik: you don't seem to know linux to be honest, but llutz gave you the best lead to follow up on
[17:33] <nikke> arkanabar: so it cant be fixed?
[17:33] <quatar-it> hello! i'm doing an ubuntu installation on a old laptop. I've chosen the installation procedure with available wifi connection. The installation worked for several minutes (copying files / installing the system / ...) but it stopped during the retrieving of the files
[17:33] <arkanabar> nikke: compiz config manager ought to be able to modify that sort of behavior.
[17:34] <coldflame> mmmmhh...i invoked it
[17:34] <nikke> arkanabar: all right
[17:34] <TBotNik> ikonia: I'm fine in my norm, but this is outside of that.
[17:34] <heoa> 11.10, Wlan broken, ideas? http://pastie.org/3053241
[17:34] <ikonia> TBotNik: good luck
[17:34] <coldflame> and ok does the ssame
[17:34] <quatar-it> [continued] i think that connection has been lost, but nm-applet doesn't recognize so. Now i only want to let installation finish without internet-provided files. Can i?
[17:35] <arkanabar> nikke: googling webupd8 ubuntu unity tweak ought to give you plenty of good info.
[17:35] <TBotNik> ikonia: Thanks, I'll try the IIS out there, If that does not work, I'll be back.  Thanks!
[17:37] <coldflame> the only thing that changes settings is the monitor in system settings but if I try to set an extended desktop it says that the settings i put are out of boundaries wich are position=(1280, 0), dimensions=(1920, 1080), maximux=(1920, 1920)
[17:38] <epinky> was wondering if you know any alternative to ZoomIt for Ubuntu
[17:41] <jutnux> epinky: http://newtoubuntu.wordpress.com/2007/12/04/zoom-in/
[17:41] <mang0> O.O what have I done! I typed "parec" in to terminal and now it's going crazy
[17:41] <jutnux> mang0: Press Control+C
[17:41] <mang0> jutnux: Phew, ty. What was it?
[17:43] <epinky> jutnux: great! but wait... what about drawing capabilities?
[17:43] <jutnux> Epinky: I don't know if there is drawing capabilities.
[17:43] <jutnux> mang0: I have no idea. Type man parec and see what it is.
[17:44] <mang0> jutnux: Ah. pacat  - Play back or record raw or encoded audio streams on a PulseAu‐dio sound server
[17:48] <jutnux> ;-)
[17:48] <jesfre> Goodness, where is this server located?
[17:50] <ubuntu111111111> hello again
[17:51] <jutnux> Keep on topic please jesfre.
[17:51] <wildc4rd> Good afternoon all!
[17:52] <ubuntu111111111> guys .. has anybody any idea on why udo add-apt-repository ppa:mactel-support && sudo apt-get update won't work?  i mean when typed from the terminal it makes all the right moves and noises but when it comes to actually installing stuff i am not able to add anything using apt-get install
[17:52] <ubuntu111111111> i meant sudo
[17:52] <jutnux> ubuntu111111111: sudo apt-get update
[17:52] <jutnux> Then install things.
[17:52] <jutnux> Oh right didn't read haha.
[17:52] <ubuntu111111111> no worryies
[17:52] <BenB> anybody here knows the ubuntu onscreen keyboard, or a better IRC #room for it?
[17:52] <jutnux> Perhaps the PPA is not valid anymore.
[17:53] <jutnux> try ppa/mactel-support
[17:53] <buzzdee> hey, I'm trying to access my windows partition from ubuntu 11.10, installed via wubi from windows. it's a win 7 ntfs partition. it doesn't show up in the devices on the left of the file explorer. any ideas?
[17:53] <ubuntu111111111> it's quite valide..
[17:53] <ubuntu111111111> it's quite valide.. is the ubuntu approved one
[17:54] <jesfre> buzzdee: are you trying to use Ubuntu?
[17:54] <bean> ubuntu111111111: your nick is annoying, but I digress, I would be willing to bet that add-apt-repository doesn't exist on your system.
[17:54] <bbeattie> I have some servers on 10.04 lts and need upgrade the kernel to >= 2.6.37.  Is it wise to just to up to the kernel to the natty backport 2.6.38 or should I use a backport for a 3,0+ kernel and jump out of the 2.6.x kernels?
[17:54] <OerHeks> ubuntu111111111, it is  ppa:mactel-support/ppa
[17:54] <buzzdee> jesfre, I don't get your question. I am on ubuntu, and I cannot access my files on Windows.
[17:55] <jesfre> Oh… one moment.
[17:55] <ubuntu111111111> OerHeks:  bean thanks for your input.. lemme modify the scrips.. and i will let you guys know
[17:55] <genii-around> ubuntu111111111: Probably because the only package for Oneiric that repository has is xserver-xorg-input-synaptics
[17:56] <buzzdee> I see the "system reserved" partition with the boot loader, and my CD drive. Not my second partition with the files I access in Windows.
[17:56] <Jaibreak> HEllo
[17:58] <batman6> I'm reading some tutorials on force mounting Windows drives in Linux, and some of them mention using a '-o force' option to force it to mount, but this isn't in any of the man pages I've found
[17:58] <batman6> is this a deprecated option, or just a not-well-written/researched tutorial?
[17:59] <arkanabar> batman6: "info" is often much more informative than "man"
[17:59] <jesfre> buzzdee: is it under devices?
[17:59] <jesfre> Buzdee: It might need to be mounted.
[18:00] <buzzdee> jesfre, I don't think so. I checked the various sda01, 02 etc, it didn't come up. In /media there are only the system reserved and CD drive.
[18:01] <dr_willis> batman6:   you may want to check the ntfs-3g docs also.
[18:01] <batman6> dr_willis: I'm reading them atm
[18:02] <dr_willis> batman6:  the ntfs-3g tools have a way to 'check' a ntfs  so it dosent need  the force option. but it may be safer to have windoww actually check the fs.
[18:03] <dr_willis> batman6:  the ntfs-3g man pages say 'force' is obsolete
[18:03] <jesfre> buzzdee: I'm sorry, I would not know what to do at that point. I did see it might be a problem with fstab, not sure though.
[18:03] <jutnux> Just chkdsk /x Dir: on Windows.
[18:04] <dr_willis> Hmm
[18:04] <buzzdee> jesfre, OK, thanks. I see what I can find on the web. it's peculiar the boot partition shows up and not the windows partition. Thanks for your time!
[18:04] <arkanabar> buzzdee: wubi always seemed like a klunky workaround to me, and I always installed on a dedicated partition.
[18:09] <Lordveda> Hello world
[18:09] <bittin> Hi
[18:09] <Lordveda> I wonder if anyone has some experience with XML and XSLT?
[18:10] <dury> Is there a channel to talk about mobile phones like Nokia 3720 classic?
[18:10] <llutz> !alis | dury
[18:10] <Pici> Lordveda: This channel is really just for support with Ubuntu, I'd try asking in the channel for whatever programming language you're using to manipulate the xml.
[18:11] <dury> fisrt of all hi there all
[18:11] <jutnux> !alis > dury
[18:11] <Lordveda> I have written an xsl for an xml file I want to know why it isn't working as I expect.
[18:11] <bean> Lordveda: this isn't the channel for that.
[18:11] <bittin> My computer always loses the alsa settings when i reboot how do i save them?
[18:11] <jutnux> Lordveda: This isn't the correct channel. This is for Ubuntu support.
[18:12] <Pici> Lordveda: You can use alis to find a channel too ^^
[18:12] <bkunix> Bittin: sudo alsactl sto
[18:12] <Lordveda> bean: thank for telling me this, what could be the correct channel?
[18:12] <bean> Lordveda: I wasn't the first person to say it.
[18:12] <bean> !alis > Lordveda
[18:12] <bittin> alsactl not found
[18:13] <rmt> In Ubuntu, are keyboard shortcuts now directly part of Unity?
[18:13] <BluesKaj> bittin, sudo alsactl store
[18:13] <jutnux> bittin: try sudo alsamixer
[18:13] <bittin> ah now i know why
[18:13] <arkanabar> rmt:  yep, Win+1-0 will launch the first 10 apps in launcher, or move you to open instances of them.
[18:14] <arkanabar> and ctrl-alt-t launches gnome-terminal.
[18:14] <bittin> i always have to modprobe snd-powermac when i reboot the computer i need to make that module load auto i guess
[18:14] <jutnux> bittin: try sudo alsamixer
[18:15] <rmt> arkanabar, ugh.. Not a unity lover.. but I do enjoy having a volume applet in my alternative setup.. will have to dig one up.
[18:15] <llutz> bittin: echo snd-powermac|sudo tee -a /etc/modules
[18:15] <bittin> llee, your smart :)
[18:16] <arkanabar> rmt, ya might try lubuntu.  I code all sorts of keyboard shortcuts into my openbox config file.
[18:16] <rmt> arkanabar, Yeah.. me too (openbox) .. but I do like seeing the current volume also.
[18:17] <bean> I rather like #! (CrunchBang)
[18:17] <bean> rmt:
[18:17] <bittin> llutz, only have to do that and reboot?
[18:17] <arkanabar> bean: #! 9.04 is where I learned that little trick.
[18:18] <arkanabar>  I should never have tossed that CD, even if it is no longer supported.
[18:18] <rmt> bean, hmm.. that looks interesting.. good place to look for openbox tools. :)
[18:18] <arkanabar> rmt: others include viperr, archbang, and madbox.  all are inspired by corenominal's work w/ #!.
[18:18] <d8bhatta> Hello Guys, I am in ubuntu 11.10 . I am trying to set up vpn but my vpn connection gets failed although after entering correct credentials. Can somebody please suggest?
[18:18] <BluesKaj> bittin, you might also add this line to your /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf file as root , options snd-powermac index=0 , that makes the souncard and module default
[18:19] <d8bhatta> I am after this issue since yesterday.
[18:19] <llutz> bittin: yes
[18:19] <d8bhatta> Pls suggest me.
[18:20] <Aliv3> where do I get driver list?
[18:20] <arkanabar> Aliv3: drivers are compiled into the kernel.  what are you trying to run?
[18:21] <Aliv3> Avermedia TV
[18:22] <d8bhatta> Anybody have set up vpn in ubuntu 11.10?
[18:22] <duckx> hi
[18:22] <duckx> im new aswell
[18:22] <duckx> but i have used ubuntu before for my local dev setup... i just installed it on vps.net ... anyone use that hosting before?
[18:22] <Aliv3> I want tv :(
[18:22] <duckx> which tv?
[18:23] <Aliv3> directv
[18:23] <d8bhatta> :)
[18:23] <d8bhatta> :(
[18:24] <d8bhatta> ok,  then suggest me the possible channel to get vpn issue solved.
[18:24] <d8bhatta> any idea?>
[18:24] <BluesKaj> Aliv3, which avermedia device are yoiu using ?
[18:24] <ry> can i create a mirror (raid1) via mdadm from an existing root drive without losing the data?
[18:24] <Prodego> d8bhatta: you want to be here probably
[18:25] <Aliv3> oh well  I want my tuner card to work first but I have uhm idk
[18:25] <d8bhatta> Prodego: yes of course I want this here but I am not getting answer.
[18:25] <Aliv3> I can't get my tuner card to work
[18:25] <d8bhatta> Prodego: do you have any idea ?
[18:26] <Prodego> d8bhatta: well I can start making things up if you want. If no one is here right know who knows, then
[18:26] <Prodego> you could post on the forums, if you don't want to wait
[18:26] <ikonia> d8bhatta: you need to look at the logs on the vpn server
[18:26] <d8bhatta>  Prodego: Yes, please start. I appreciate .
[18:27] <ikonia> d8bhatta: if you are failing authentication the vpn server is where you need to start debugging it
[18:27] <Prodego> :| thank you ikonia
[18:27] <bean> Aliv3: what tuner card?
[18:28] <Aliv3> how do I find out? its ati something
[18:28] <d8bhatta> ikonia: I am not sure where should I do, I have tested so many options using pptp
[18:28] <ikonia> d8bhatta: you should do what I just told you to do
[18:29] <lukasoft> Hello, I can't seem to figure out what video card I have. I'm running 10.04, and when i type lspci -nn | grep VGA I only get VGA compatible controller [0300]: ATI Technologies Inc Device [1002:6779]. I'm trying to install new drivers to get widescreen
[18:30] <Aliv3> ATI Technologies Inc RV710 [Radeon HD 4350] [1002:954f] i think
[18:30] <d8bhatta> ikonia:  Unfortunately I cannot see server log because client has given me vpn connection parameters.
[18:30] <d8bhatta> paramters only
[18:30] <ikonia> d8bhatta: then you need to talk to the client and ask them to review the logs or monitor them while you try to connect
[18:31] <d8bhatta> yes, its good idea.
[18:31] <d8bhatta> I will do this and will follow you people, I hope you dont mind.
[18:31] <ikonia> follow us ?
[18:31] <ubuntu111111111> quick question... is it possible to use wget with the timestamping wget --timestamping -r  to download the lastes version of a .deb file from a server ? as in wget http://ppa.launchpad.net/mactel-support/ppa/ubuntu/pool/main/m/macfanctld/macfanctld_0.5~mactel1~maverick_amd64.deb... but i would like to be able to download the lates version say 3 months from now on when i will run the script... any ideas?
[18:32] <ikonia> ubuntu111111111: that makes no sense at all
[18:32] <jutnux> ubuntu111111111: ...
[18:32] <jutnux> ubuntu111111111: Most sites have a latest.deb that you can download.
[18:32] <Pici> ubuntu111111111: Is there a reason you can't just use apt?
[18:33] <ikonia> putting the PPA in your package manager is the correct way to do this, anything else makes no sense
[18:33] <ubuntu111111111> i know.. i am working in creating a little script that would download packages.. (in this case from ppa...the reason i can not use apt is because apt does not work for the mactell ppa)
[18:33] <Aliv3> It keeps failing at AMD/ATI propietary drivers
[18:34] <ikonia> ubuntu111111111: apt-get will work with any ubuntu PPA
[18:34] <ubuntu111111111> but as far as i could see the packages are updated every month or so so running the wget script with and old name for the packages will not do any good
[18:34] <ikonia> ubuntu111111111: you are creating a terrible solution
[18:34] <bean> agreed, ikonia .
[18:34] <bean> don't do it that way ubuntu111111111. apt will work.
[18:35] <ubuntu111111111> dude.. ikonia  trust me.. ppa mactel does not work.. everytime i reinstall ubuntu on my mac i have to go and download the packages manually one by one from   http://ppa.launchpad.net/mactel-support/ppa/ubuntu/pool/main/
[18:35] <ikonia> ubuntu111111111: trust me - it does
[18:35] <culticvirus> sup
[18:35] <ubuntu111111111> ikonia:  stand by scren shot coming
[18:36] <culticvirus> who can teach me to hack?
[18:36] <ikonia> ubuntu111111111: if apt-get does not work with an ubuntu PPA - there is a serious problem with that PPA and you should not be using it
[18:36] <ikonia> culticvirus: no-one in here, please don't ask
[18:36] <BullShark> will ubuntu have gnome3 in its next release?
[18:36] <ikonia> BullShark: gnome3 is in the current release
[18:36] <BullShark> ikonia -> out of the box?
[18:36] <ikonia> BullShark: correcty
[18:37] <ikonia> 11.10 contains gnome3 with unity shell out of the box
[18:37] <ubuntu111111111> ikonia:  and the rest ... look here http://i42.tinypic.com/4r87yh.png
[18:37] <BullShark> oh that's bs
[18:37] <ikonia> BullShark: no it's not
[18:37] <ikonia> ubuntu111111111: the package is not here -
[18:37] <BullShark> unity is god awful
[18:38] <ikonia> BullShark: ok, don't use it
[18:38] <Pici> ubuntu111111111: did you actually add the required ppa to your sources?
[18:38] <ubuntu111111111> Pici:  yes man
[18:38] <lukasoft> can someone help me install an ATI graphics driver? I've done it before on a different computer, however when I type "lspci -nn | grep VGA" I only get "01:00.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: ATI Technologies Inc Device [1002:6779]"
[18:39] <Pici> ubuntu111111111: using add-apt-repository? or via modifying /etc/apt/sources.list manually?
[18:39] <lukasoft> or at least give me some guidance on how to figure out what card i have?
[18:39] <ikonia> lukasoft: just use the hardware drivers tool
[18:39] <ubuntu111111111> using add apt
[18:39] <ikonia> lukasoft: just use the hardware drivers tool
[18:40] <Pici> ubuntu111111111: Can you pastebin the result of    ls -al /etc/apt/sources.list.d/
[18:40] <lukasoft> ikonia, thanks, but it says there are no proprietary drivers on the system
[18:40] <ubuntu111111111> Pici:  stand by
[18:40] <ubuntu111111111> screen shot comoin
[18:40] <ikonia> lukasoft: then there isn't one for your card
[18:41] <lukasoft> ikonia, ok, will changing Xorg.conf to force the resolution of the monitor work or is that a bad idea?
[18:41] <lukasoft> because all i care about is getting a widescreen resolutoin
[18:41] <bean> lukasoft: using xrandr, etc will probably work
[18:42] <scorinitron> d
[18:42] <scorinitron> msg NickServ identify <jpatterson93>
[18:42] <xangua> scorinitron: fail...
[18:42] <scorinitron> XD
[18:42] <scorinitron> wrong password 2
[18:42] <bean> scorinitron: you might want to change your password
[18:42] <ikonia> lukasoft: well, if your card needs a driver to function and there isn't one - it won't be worth while
[18:43] <scorinitron> LMAO
[18:43] <ubuntu111111111> Pici:   http://pastebin.com/U6G3W1d4
[18:44] <ikonia> ubuntu111111111: sudo apt-get update - then apt-cache search bcm5974-dkms
[18:44] <lukasoft> ikonia, I'm assuming i'm using a generic driver right now, as I'm on the computer, its using a 4:3 aspect though, which is annoying. But because the generic driver is displaying something, does that mean the resolution can be changed?
[18:45] <ikonia> lukasoft: if that drivers supposed your card at the resoluiton you want, yes
[18:46] <three18ti> anyone been able to install systemd on Ubuntu?  ppa:andrew-edmunds/ppa returns 404...
[18:47] <Aliv3> ttyl
[18:47] <xangua> three18ti: sounds like there are no packages in that ppa for whatever ubuntu version you use
[18:47] <Gnea> !lts
[18:47] <ubuntu111111111> ikonia:   here you go:   http://i44.tinypic.com/jq447b.png
[18:48] <three18ti> xangua, good call, looks like the PPA only supplies packages for Maverick... :/ weaksauce.
[18:48] <ikonia> ubuntu111111111: so there is no package in that repo called bcm5974-dkms, that's why you can't find it
[18:48] <jutnux> ubuntu111111111: Nothing returned means there is NO result.
[18:49] <Pici> ubuntu111111111: There is only one package that the PPA contains for your release of Ubuntu, and it isn't any of the packages you're looking for.
[18:49] <ubuntu111111111> ikonia...  look here.. that's where  i am manually downloading the drivers http://ppa.launchpad.net/mactel-support/ppa/ubuntu/pool/main/b/bcm5974-dkms/
[18:49] <Pici> (oops, was scrolled up)
[18:49] <ubuntu111111111> they are there
[18:50] <Pici> ubuntu111111111: https://launchpad.net/~mactel-support/+archive/ppa?field.series_filter=oneiric
[18:50] <ubuntu111111111> the debs are there
[18:50] <ikonia> ubuntu111111111: that doesn't mean that's the package name
[18:50] <ikonia> ubuntu111111111: that's the FILE name
[18:50] <genii-around> ikonia: The problem as I said to them a long while ago now... is that the only Oneiric package in that repository is a synaptics driver
[18:50] <ikonia> ubuntu111111111: or that repo has a bad index file
[18:50] <Jef91> Anyone know where the scripts are located that are run when a system suspends/unspends?
[18:50] <ikonia> in which case I wouldn't trust them
[18:50] <ikonia> then why are people using such a bad PPA
[18:50] <Pici> ikonia, ubuntu111111111: that path doesn't list any packages for oneiric.
[18:51] <genii-around> ubuntu111111111: https://launchpad.net/~mactel-support/+archive/ppa?field.series_filter=oneiric   shows all the oneiric packages
[18:54] <frutti> during a usb install of ubuntu server, is it normal that it fails to detect the cdrom and you hjave to mount it manually?
[18:54] <ikonia> why do you need a cd for a usb install
[18:55] <frutti> thats what the installer calls it, but it actually the usb stick its refered to that fails to mount to /cdrom
[18:56] <ikonia> it wo'nt mount on /cdrom - it's not a cdrom
[18:56] <ssta> sure it will...
[18:56] <ssta> you can mount anything anywhere
[18:56] <ikonia> ssta: you can - it won't auto
[18:57] <bbeattie> If I need to upgrade some 10.04 servers from 2.6.32 to >=2.6.37 should I just use the kernel-image-generic-pae-lts-backport-natty (natty with 2.6.38) or should I just jump to oneiric that has 3.0.0? thoughts?
[18:57] <ssta> ikonia: it won't automount, that doesn't mean you can't mount it
[18:57] <ikonia> ssta: I didn't say you can't
[18:57] <lukasoft> ikonia, it won't allow 1920x1080 using generic drivers.. figures. Is there nothing I can do?
[18:57] <ikonia> ssta: the question was why doesn't it auto mount
[18:59] <frutti> it's no worries, ill mount it manually, just thought usb install would be a farily automated process these days and wanted to make sure nothing is off
[19:03] <jaimef> how do you set default kernel to boot in unbuntu?
[19:03] <spaceneedle> How do I install the 3.0.0.13 kernel in pinguy 11.04?
[19:03] <ikonia> spaceneedle: not an ubuntu issue
[19:03] <ikonia> spaceneedle: try pinguy support
[19:04] <SpitfireWP> ubuntu111111111, did you have any luck?
[19:06] <ubuntu111111111> not at all  i am gonna use wget wget http://ppa.launchpad.net/mactel-support/ppa/ubuntu/pool/main/b/bcm5974-dkms/bcm5974-dkms_1.1.9_all.deb
[19:06] <ubuntu111111111> wget http://ppa.launchpad.net/mactel-support/ppa/ubuntu/pool/main/x/xf86-input-multitouch/xf86-input-multitouch_1.0~rc2-mactel2_i386.d
[19:06] <Cyph3r> Strange issue: On a laptop, if I accidentally hit the button to deactivate the touchpad, the keyboard stops working, and I can't click on icons
[19:06] <ubuntu111111111> and after wards the sudo dpkg -i
[19:08] <Cyph3r> Anyone know of a fix for this?
[19:13] <Cyph3r> Strange issue: On a laptop, if I accidentally hit the button to deactivate the touchpad, the keyboard stops working, and I can't click on icons (even after hitting the button again to activate touchpad). This also happens if I plug in a USB mouse
[19:15] <w30> When I mount /dev/sda7 (2nd OS) on /media I get my files that are on sda6 (root file system) mostly, different directories and files do show up though. Similar named files get bastardized to my root files even though different. Why?
[19:16] <w30> Is this a bug or a feature?
[19:17] <Cyph3r> Not sure myself. Just thought I'd respond to point out that there ARE other people in here :P
[19:17] <SunTsu> w30: I wouldn't say either, depends on what's going on. please pastey mount's output
[19:17] <Cyph3r> Trying to get a fix myself, but the forums and Google aren't giving me what I need
[19:17] <Pici> w30: What file system is on that partition?
[19:18] <w30> Pici, ext4 on both partitions, one is xubuntu and the other is kubuntu.
[19:19] <Pici> w30: Perhaps if you provided some specific examples we could be of more use.
[19:19] <CaBeTuX> estimados
[19:19] <CaBeTuX> buenas tardes
[19:19] <CaBeTuX> consulta rapida:
[19:19] <Andrewx_> Hello, when I try accessing the grub prompt by typing rub at terminal, it says that the grub package isn't installed.
[19:19] <w30> Pici, in real tty and virtual x terminals
[19:20] <SunTsu> w30: Please, run "mount" and pastey it, so we see what is mounted where
[19:20] <SunTsu> !es | CaBeTuX
[19:20] <CaBeTuX> thanks SunTsu, sorry
[19:20] <ubuntu111111111> y si no quieres vete usted a tomar.... tu bolsa a done tu quieres
[19:20] <ubuntu111111111> :))
[19:20] <ubuntu111111111> :)
[19:21] <Pici> !es | ubuntu111111111 CaBeTuX
[19:21] <Andrewx_> Hello, when I try accessing the grub prompt by typing rub at terminal, it says that the grub package isn't installed.
[19:21] <w30> SunTsu, ok, let me mount partition first, thanks
[19:21] <Andrewx_> I need to use the grub prompt to change some configuration settings ASAP.
[19:21] <krisss117> hi, i need help, how i can open i new terminal urlsnarf -i wlan0 | sed -e 's/\(.*\)/\1/'
[19:21] <SunTsu> Andrewx_: normally you only need to touch the config files
[19:22]  * ubuntu111111111 a quine le jode que estoy hablando en espanol? :))
[19:22] <SunTsu> ubuntu111111111: stop trolling
[19:22] <Andrewx_> okay.
[19:22] <ubuntu111111111> SunTsu:  and the art of war..  :))
[19:22] <w30> SunTsu, http://paste.ubuntu.com/777801/
[19:22] <e01> hello
[19:22] <CaBeTuX> Pici.... SunTsu> !es | CaBeTuX
 thanks SunTsu, sorry
[19:22] <CaBeTuX> ¬¬
[19:23] <Cyph3r> Strange issue: On a laptop, if I accidentally hit the button to deactivate the touchpad, the keyboard stops working, and I can't click on icons (even after hitting the button again to activate touchpad). This also happens if I plug in a USB mouse. Any ideas for a fix?
[19:23] <w30> SunTsu, that's before here is after http://paste.ubuntu.com/777806/
[19:24] <ubuntu111111111> yeah.. cnfigure synaptics not to desactivate the touchpad
[19:24] <SunTsu> w30: so you'r on the other os now, because initially you told us that you tried mounting sd7 on media...
[19:24] <e01> i had "installed" eclipse in /opt simple like extracting an archive, and global menu was working, then i remove it and install the default in the ubuntu repositories and now eclipse have no globalmenu, any idea how to fix it?
[19:24] <krisss117> i use gnome-terminal but it only blink
[19:25] <SunTsu> w30: before and after what? I don't see any difference
[19:25] <krisss117> can u help ?
[19:25] <Pici> !details
[19:25] <w30> SunTsu, it's mounting kubuntu on sda6 to /media
[19:26] <SunTsu> w30: there's absolutely no difference between those two pasteys
[19:26] <max> Всем привет
[19:26] <M4trixSm> ?
[19:26] <SunTsu> !ru | max
[19:26] <Guest78625> Чо тут  русских нет
[19:26] <Guest78625> ?
[19:27] <w30> SunTsu, my bad, it was allready mounted, sorry to misinform you
[19:27] <jutnux> !ru | Guest78625
[19:28] <frutti> during a usb install of ubuntu server, i reach the main menu and the next step should be configure package manager, but when i select it a progress bar flashses and then im back at the menu with no feedback..is it really supposed to be that way?
[19:28] <hacked_kernel> every time i login to Ubuntu it Gnome asks me to unlock my password keyring twice, wither  I authenticate or cancel nothing happens that I see, how can I discover which app is asking for that? or how to stop it?
[19:28] <ikonia> no
[19:28] <w30> SunTsu, sda6 on media is bogus, it gets sda7, the root fs files and folders
[19:28] <auvajs> hi anyone could help me how to change something in lyx?
[19:29] <jutnux> !ask | auvajs
[19:29] <w30> SunTsu, plus folders unique to sda6
[19:29] <SunTsu> w30: if you have two versions of ubuntu on two different partitions, it somehow strikes me that the content might look quite similar, did you try to create a file on any of those filesystems and see if it shows up on what you think to be the other?
[19:30] <cypher-neo> hacked_kernel, When you installed Ubuntu did you encrypt your $HOME folder to your admin password?
[19:30] <Cyph3r> ubuntu111111111, thanks
[19:30] <hacked_kernel> Cyph3r, no I didn't encrypt it because i'm using lvm
[19:30] <ubuntu111111111> Cyph3r:  huh?!!
[19:30] <ubuntu111111111> what for?
[19:30] <auvajs> anyone: how to set up paragraph (or whatever it is) settings in lyx? I just wanna have it printed some other word than "Part" in Part section..
[19:31] <hacked_kernel> Cyph3r, sorry wrong message
[19:31] <w30> SunTsu, it took a while to notice it, editing config files made me notice editing one identical file made both files the same
[19:31] <hacked_kernel> cypher-neo, , no I didn't encrypt it because i'm using lvm
[19:31] <Cyph3r> ubuntu111111111, thanks for the comment about synaptics touchpad
[19:31] <ubuntu111111111> Cyph3r:  that's all i could come up with
[19:31] <SunTsu> w30: could that be because of symlinks?
[19:31] <Nikooo777> hello everyone, i have a question: i want to install linux ubuntu 11.10 on an old laptop running xp actually. unfortunately after the POST i can't boot from CD or USB (i don't know why) and if i try to use wubi it gives me the following error: 'WindowsBackend' object has no attribute 'CD_path' any ideas how i can solve this?
[19:32] <w30> SunTsu, no, no symlinks for proftpd.conf for example.
[19:32] <zleap> Nikooo777, do you have the boot options set in the BIOS
[19:32] <Nikooo777> yes
[19:33] <Nikooo777> it says that the CD is not bootable
[19:33] <cypher-neo> Nikooo777, You might need to update your BIOS then
[19:33] <Nikooo777> it's very old not sure it's still supported
[19:33] <Nikooo777> it's insyde 1.22
[19:34] <zleap> or a different cd
[19:34] <html> ubuntu music store , how do i get it?
[19:34] <Nikooo777> i tried 3 CD's 1 DVD and 2 usb
[19:34] <zleap> hmm
[19:34] <Nikooo777> with different distros
[19:34] <genii-around> Nikooo777: Does your bios allow PXE booting?
[19:34] <hacked_kernel> every time i login to Ubuntu it Gnome asks me to unlock my password keyring twice, wither  I authenticate or cancel nothing happens that I see, how can I discover which app is asking for that? or how to stop it?
[19:34] <Nikooo777> yes i think it does
[19:34] <w30> SunTsu, I know for sure booted on xubuntu causes the trouble, not sure booting on kubuntu would mirror the same effect.
[19:35] <w30> SunTsu, I will have to see, hrumphhhh..
[19:35] <genii-around> Nikooo777: If so and you have a handy second box around, you could try https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PXEInstallServer
[19:35] <SunTsu> w30: it really sounds strange, please pastey a ls -l / and ls -l /media/24fdba38-c977-4cf5-a80d-4872e671f360
[19:35] <Nikooo777> awesome thanks for the support will try right now
[19:36] <Nikooo777> oh by the way
[19:36] <Nikooo777> by second box can a windows work too?
[19:36] <Nikooo777> i have windows 7 here atm
[19:36] <cypher-neo> hacked_kernel, I have a theory
[19:36] <frutti> any ideas why nothing happens when i select "select and install software" from the installation menu in ubuntu server?
[19:36] <w30> SunTsu, for /   http://paste.ubuntu.com/777817/
[19:37] <tin_nqn> hi, is there some Karmic repo still available somewhere?
[19:37] <cypher-neo> hacked_kernel, It might be related to either one of these bugs: https://bugs.launchpad.net/gnome-keyring/+bug/416825 https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-keyring/+bug/637702
[19:37] <tin_nqn> apt-get update  respond "Imposible obtener http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/karmic/restricted/binary-i386/Packages.gz  404  Not Found [IP: 91.189.92.182 80] "
[19:38] <cypher-neo> hacked_kernel, That was the reason i asked you if you had recently changed a password
[19:38] <w30> SunTsu, for /media/24fdba38-c977-4cf5-a80d-4872e671f360 http://paste.ubuntu.com/777821/
[19:39] <cypher-neo> hacked_kernel, Bug 416825 doesn't change the keyring password when you change the system password... and this causes the keyring to ask you twice.
[19:39] <SunTsu> w30: looks similar, but most of the directory access times differ, just like one would expect
[19:39] <hacked_kernel> cypher-neo, how to change  the keyring password
[19:40] <cypher-neo> hacked_kernel, One second. I'm looking it up. :)
[19:40] <genii-around> Nikooo777: Yes, you can actually boot to livecd and then install dhcp server and whatever you need onto the live running version, use that to boot up and install to the client.
[19:40] <auvajs> hi anyone: how to edit source code in lyx?? I can only see where I can view the source code
[19:40] <w30> SunTsu, the aaaaa-folders are just markers for each file system to make sure where I was
[19:40] <Nikooo777> looks quite hard... would a Virtual machine work too?
[19:41] <Nikooo777_> damn crashed
[19:41] <zleap> hacked_kernel, do you want to chanse the pass phrase?
[19:41] <Nikooo777_> looks quite hard... would a Virtual machine work too?
[19:41] <cypher-neo> hacked_kernel, http://www.greenhughes.com/node/8985
[19:41] <html> Nikooo777,   for?
[19:41] <hacked_kernel> zleap, no i just get asked to authenticate after autologin twice
[19:42] <zleap> ok
[19:42] <Nikooo777_> for DHCP server
[19:42] <tuga> someone could help?
[19:42] <Nikooo777_> [20:40] <genii-around> Nikooo777: Yes, you can actually boot to livecd and then install dhcp server and whatever you need onto the live running version, use that to boot up and install to the client.
[19:43] <w30> SunTsu, it almost like playing Jepordy where the contestant jumps the gun before hearing the whole mount request. mount hears proftpd.conf and says sure I have one on / but doesn't look on /media also.
[19:43] <genii-around> Nikooo777: It should work, yes. although I have not actually tried this in practice.
[19:43] <cypher-neo> hacked_kernel, http://www.greenhughes.com/node/8985 Let me know if this helps, or it keeps happening.
[19:43] <html> tuga,  as you can see this is a busy place , so please wait  and google it while u wait
[19:44] <genii-around> Nikooo777: Apologies on lag, work is demanding much of my attention here
[19:45] <Nikooo777_> okay
[19:45] <Nikooo777_> thanks anyway :)
[19:46] <frutti> any ideas why nothing happens when i select "select and install software" from the installation menu in ubuntu server? or is it supposed to be like that?
[19:48] <tuga> ok i google and i found nothing, but here is my problem: i think the my keyboard is interfering with the linux ( the sound icon blinks, and i can't write almost nothing) if anyone cold help i appreciate ;), if not thank u anyway
[19:48] <html> tuga,  what is it?
[19:49] <w30> frutti, my similar problem was because my compiz window manager was not allowing a password window to come up to approve the install request.
[19:49] <cypher-neo> tuga, Okay... let me break it down more. When you type on the keyboard, the sound icon blinks?
[19:49] <MrFisherman> umm, so does the ATI proprietary driver work completely with gnome 3 yet?
[19:50] <SunTsu> w30: I don't think so. Can you please pastey ls -l of proftpd.conf on both mountpoints?
[19:50] <tuga> cypher-neo, yes
[19:50] <xapel> I want to update an Ubuntu laptop with the latest packages, but it does not have internet. Can I just download the cd from the website and update from the cd, or do they not keep the cd updated?
[19:51] <CipherX> cd should be pretty up to date, but it will prob only have packages up to latest release
[19:51] <MrFisherman> !help
[19:51] <tuga> something wrong with my keyboard? is a Microsoft wireless
[19:51] <cypher-neo> tuga, I wonder if there is a window that requires input that is hidden. Try hitting Alt-Tab a couple times to cycle between windows.
[19:52] <d1g1ta1> Can someone please help me with Lubuntu install gets to GUI language selection screen, I click English and next, the DVD spins for a bit then the light goes out and an hourglass (PC is not frozen, but install seems to be stopped)?
[19:52] <cypher-neo> tuga, Sometimes dialog boxes get lost and you end up with unresponsive keyboard, and it's just a box you need to close.
[19:52] <w30> SunTsu,  ls -l  /etc/proftpd/proftpd.conf is http://paste.ubuntu.com/777841/
[19:52] <xapel> CipherX, so they do keep the cd up to date?
[19:52] <CipherX> xapel: ubuntu's pretty good about that I believe
[19:52] <CipherX> what vers you running now?
[19:53] <schnuffle1> d1g1ta1: sure your DVD is not damaged?
[19:53] <cypher-neo> tuga, You might also try using Unity shortcut Ctrl-Alt-Up Arrow to expose all windows and select one to give focus to.
[19:54] <grendal-prime> i need to monitor a network if and get a throughput count of data..so like over the last year how much data has gone through the device.
[19:54] <grendal-prime> any suggestions?
[19:54] <ikonia> grendal-prime: cacti
[19:54] <d1g1ta1> schnuffle1: can't be 100% sure, but I've been using it on other systems so I do not think it's the DVD
[19:55] <SunTsu> grandrew: cacti
[19:55] <SunTsu> er, grendal-prime cacti
[19:55] <d1g1ta1> schnuffle1: it's a mass produced DVD (not home burned)
[19:55] <cypher-neo> tuga, Did that work?
[19:55] <w30> SunTsu,  ls -l  /media/24fdba38-c977-4cf5-a80d-4872e671f360/etc/proftpd/proftpd.conf is http://paste.ubuntu.com/777843/
[19:55] <cypher-neo> d1g1ta1, I have a theory... It's going to sound odd though.
[19:56] <cypher-neo> d1g1ta1, How much memory do you have on your computer?
[19:56] <grendal-prime> that seems a bit heavy for what i want to do..but ill give it a shot
[19:56] <schnuffle1> d1g1ta1: hm, hard to figure out. Maybe even the DVD is damaged. Can you create a USB and try it with that?
[19:56] <frutti> so nobody has any clue as to why "configure package manager" just throws me back to the main menu during a usb install of ubuntu server?
[19:56] <SunTsu> w30: it's two different files, even the sizes differ. Are you sure you didn't confuse things like you did when asking initially?
[19:56] <tuga> cypher-neo, no didn't work. it still's blinks
[19:56] <schnuffle1> d1g1ta1: I mean the dvd DEVICE
[19:58] <cypher-neo> tuga, You're using a USB keyboard?
[19:58] <cypher-neo> tuga, Is it a USB wireless keyboard?
[19:59] <CipherX> xapel: if it's < 11.10, you should get 11.10 to get current
[19:59] <schnuffle1> frutti: it can be that it doesn't find the local repo on the USB stick. I think I had that problem once, building the stick with unetbootin. Switched to multisystem, yumi or xboot. Till then no more problems
[19:59] <tuga> cypher-neo, yes is a wireless (Microsoft Keyboard)
[19:59] <w30> SunTsu, they are different for sure but they both show up the same as the one in / not /media. I have to boot up the file system to separate the two into reality.
[20:00] <cypher-neo> tuga, Check out https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallUSBKeyboard
[20:00] <madpup> anyone else noticed that grub now has a debian logo since the last update?
[20:00] <CipherX> tuga: wireless doesn't mean USB
[20:00] <SunTsu> w30: "show up" when?
[20:00] <cypher-neo> tuga, It might be a BIOS setting you need to change.
[20:00] <SunTsu> w30: because to me they look different
[20:00] <dano1> I currently have a dual boot system (Win7 / Ubuntu).  I want to eliminate Windoz but don't understand what I need to change in Grub.  Can someone help me?
[20:01] <frutti> schnuffle1: thanks, ill look into it
[20:01] <andsietiem> Hey
[20:01] <sergiu_> hii
[20:01] <andsietiem> lmaolmaolmao
[20:02] <w30> SunTsu, when comparing with less or nano they appear the same as the / mount.
[20:02] <andsietiem> yeah
[20:02] <xapel> CipherX: It is 11.04. I thought I need to update packages first before I upgrade to 11.10. So i thought I could download both the 11.04 and 11.10 cd's.
[20:02] <tuga> cypher-neo, what is need to change in BIOS? and how i go to the BIOS in linux?
[20:02] <SunTsu> w30: please, pastey diff -c /etc/proftpd/proftpd.conf /media/24fdba38-c977-4cf5-a80d-4872e671f360/etc/proftpd/proftpd.conf
[20:03] <CipherX> xapel: why not just get 11.10? don't think you need to do any updates prior, unless you want to preserve something....
[20:03] <cypher-neo> tuga, Umm, does this sound like your problem? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-input-evdev/+bug/636311
[20:03] <juliathebest> PRIVMSG
[20:04] <CipherX> xapel: even so 11.10 should go on your system without blowing away your partition I believe
[20:04] <lojack> Hello all.  I'm using gnome 2.32.1 on Ubuntu 11.04 and I'm having a problem creating a new menu entry under Applications.
[20:04] <andsietiem> Getting
[20:04] <cypher-neo> tuga, This is an old bug, it shouldn't be around anymore...
[20:04] <lojack> I created the appropriate .desktop file in /usr/share/desktop-directories/
[20:04] <lojack> Called Mobile.desktop
[20:04] <w30> SunTsu, http://paste.ubuntu.com/777858/
[20:04] <lojack> I used another entry as a guide.
[20:05] <lojack> Then I went to /usr/share/applications/ and changed a few apps -- to include them ini the Mobile menu entry.
[20:05] <SunTsu> w30: see, it differs, I really don't get your problem, to me there is no problem
[20:05] <lojack> I changed the Categories: part of a few menu entrues to read Categories:Mobile;
[20:05] <luis_> have a HP Pavillion g4 running Ubuntu 11.04 32 bit can't get the wifi card to connect. Any suggestions?
[20:05] <lojack> Problem is, I can't get Mobile to appear under Applications.
[20:06] <hacked_kernel> cypher-neo, it solved my issue only for one of the two authentications , still one :)
[20:06] <cypher-neo> hacked_kernel, Hmm... well at least one is down. :)
[20:07] <iToast-Sleeping-> hey.
[20:07] <d1g1ta1> schnuffle1: DVD drive is almost new, never had a problem with it.
[20:08] <andsietiem> EHLO
[20:08] <d1g1ta1> schnuffle1: I don't think I can do a USB install on this system.
[20:08] <cypher-neo> tuga, What Ubuntu version are you using?
[20:08] <SunTsu> .o0( still trolly wednesday? )
[20:08] <schnuffle1> d1g1ta1: what platform is it?
[20:08] <tuga> cypher-neo, yeah is that bug
[20:09] <tuga> Ubuntu
[20:09] <tuga> Ubuntu 11.04
[20:09] <luis_> Anything
[20:11] <cypher-neo> tuga, Wow. Okay, file a bug report. That bug hadn't been confirmed in 11.04.
[20:11] <iToast> hey
[20:11] <iToast> Finally can speak
[20:11] <iToast> How do i reinstall LAMP
[20:11] <iToast> I installed it through the ubuntu installer...
[20:12] <schnuffle1> iToast: then reinstall it
[20:12] <schnuffle1> iToast: with the software installer
[20:12] <xaashi> hi, any one familiar with re-installing ubuntu to a encrypted  root with out destroying all the content of the partitions (llvm2) .. or have any pointers
[20:12] <iToast> schnuffle1: I have no gui.
[20:12] <tuga> cypher-neo, ok, how do I file a bug report?
[20:12] <iToast> Im not shure how to remove it when its in this form.
[20:13] <EvilResistance> iToast:  sudo apt-get remove lamp-server maybe?
[20:13] <Cyph3r> This is driving me nuts...pressing the button to keyboard button to deactivate the touchpad on laptop deactivates keyboard. Upon reactivating via keyboard button, keypresses still wont work, and cannot move windows or click panel icons. Ideas??
[20:13] <ikonia> grendal-prime: you can also just use mrtg
[20:13] <schnuffle1> iToast: then use apt-get to do it. apt-get install apache2 mysql-server libapache2-mod-php5
[20:13] <iToast> EvilResistance: Nope
[20:14] <iToast> I can't remove it o.o
[20:14] <EvilResistance> iToast:  what schnuffle1 said then apt-get install apache2 mysql-server libapache2-mod-php5
[20:14] <d1g1ta1> schnuffle1: Intel
[20:14] <iToast> it wont remove
[20:14] <EvilResistance> iToast:  is this a server install?
[20:14] <iToast> yes
[20:14] <cypher-neo> tuga, On this page https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-input-evdev/+bug/636311 you'll need to click the + sign for "Also affects distribution" and add 11.04 as an affected distribution.
[20:14] <iToast> im logged in as root
[20:14] <EvilResistance> iToast:  try in #ubuntu-server then
[20:14] <SunTsu> iToast: what does it respond with when trying to remove?
[20:14] <EvilResistance> they're more familiar with the server installers
[20:14] <cypher-neo> tuga, You will likely need to log in or create an account on Launchpad when you do that.
[20:14] <iToast> root@ubuntu:~# apt-get remove LAMP Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree Reading state information... Done E: Couldn't find package LAMP root@ubuntu:~# apt-get remove lamp-server Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree Reading state information... Done E: Couldn't find package lamp-server
[20:15] <fhtagn> howdy! can any1 help me setup a persistent USB ubuntu instalation? I am supposed to partition it, can't find the right scheme
[20:15] <schnuffle1> iToast: There's no lamp package in ubuntu. so apprently you got it from somewehre else
[20:15] <fhtagn> i suppose i need / /boot and /home
[20:15] <iToast> schnuffle1: i have apache mysql and php
[20:15] <kyubutsu> iToast: sudo apt-get install --reinstall (...)
[20:16] <schnuffle1> iToast: okay so what is missing for you?
[20:16] <iToast> I can't find any documents specificly for debain how to reset mysql's root password.
[20:16] <iToast> So mysql is completely inaccessable.
[20:16] <kyubutsu> iToast: in fact, looks like you need: sudo apt-get install --fix-missing (...)
[20:16] <ikonia> iToast: you need to start mysql without grant-tables
[20:16] <iToast> that and i wana use fastcgi
[20:16] <ikonia> iToast: it's well documented on mysql.com
[20:17] <schnuffle1> iToast: mysqladmin -p password, but you need to know the old one
[20:17] <ikonia> iToast: you don't need to reinstall to use fastcgi
[20:17] <iToast> it wont accept the old one.
[20:17] <tuga> cypher-neo, ok and thanks,  u been helpful. peace ;)
[20:17] <ikonia> iToast: you need to reset it by starting it witthout grant tables - it's well documented
[20:17] <songo> I CANT USE CAPS LOCK ON BINWEEVILS
[20:17] <guest__> curious , does anybody know how you tell apt-get to download to a specific location ?
[20:17] <fhtagn> found this http://www.linuxbsdos.com/2011/05/04/manual-disk-partitioning-guide-for-ubuntu-11-04/ trying it out
[20:17] <JamezQ> How can I just delete a file or at least rename it, with "Trasport enpoint is not connected"
[20:18] <iToast> ikonia: It won't letme even terminate it.
[20:18] <xapel> CipherX: I want to preserve everything
[20:18] <ikonia> iToast: kill it
[20:18] <ikonia> guest__: you can't, the contents are hardcoded to a path
[20:18] <sskalnik> fhtagn:  Cthulhu ia ia, also try this: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent
[20:18] <schnuffle1> iToast: how did you try to stop it?
[20:18] <guest__> My problem is I tries to apt-get install oracle-xe from a usb os
[20:18] <iToast> mysql stop :p
[20:18] <ikonia> iToast: that's not the right command
[20:19] <guest__> with only not enough space to hold it
[20:19] <CipherX> xapel: yeah, I'm not great with doing a install as an upgrade and preserving, but I don't see why you couldn't do that...might want to ask someone else...
[20:19] <schnuffle1> iToast:  sudo service mysqld stop
[20:19] <ikonia> iToast: start reading the documentation and learning how to do things before rushing in
[20:19] <iToast> ikonia: I've used the wiki multiple times
[20:19] <iToast> When i search it it gets me no were.
[20:19] <fhtagn> sskalnik: ty
[20:19] <Cyph3r> Pressing the keyboard button to deactivate the touchpad on laptop deactivates laptop keyboard (not a USB keyboard). Upon reactivating touchpad via keyboard button, keypresses still wont work, and cannot move windows or click panel icons. Any ideas?
[20:19] <ikonia> iToast: then why are you using the wrong commands for basic
[20:19] <xapel> CipherX: ok, thanks
[20:19] <ikonia> iToast: it's very well documented
[20:19] <sskalnik> fhtagn:  hastur hastur hastur, and your partitioning scheme is largely up to you. /, /home, /boot is a good start.
[20:19] <guest__> I use mysql but nothing bets oracles databases ;)
[20:20] <iToast> ikonia: -.-
[20:20] <w30> SunTsu, If I edit proftpd.conf on / it changes /media/---/etc/proftpd/proftpd.config also or vice versa.
[20:20] <iToast> i've never had to do this before
[20:20] <iToast> This is the first time i've had issues using ubuntu server.
[20:20] <ikonia> iToast: stop mysql, search the mysql website for resetting the password, follow the process
[20:20] <ikonia> iToast: then you should be researching before doing
[20:20] <iToast> ...
[20:20] <fhtagn> right now i have a computer, one usb with Ubuntu live and the usb i want to install ubuntu in.
[20:20] <CipherX> xapel: np,  I'm sure someone else here can answer that
[20:20] <iToast> Thats what i did.
[20:20] <emc_> Im using a cam system and need my servo to do a full rotation and then use the home switch reset absoulte 0 can that be done within g-code?
[20:20] <iToast> Thats how i ended up using ubuntu server
[20:20] <emc_> damn lol
[20:20] <emc_> wrong room
[20:20] <ikonia> iToast: yet you can't manage it at all
[20:20] <iToast> Simple, debain based, secure, and low requirements
[20:20] <guest__> looking at the man pages for dpkg I see I can download but I don't see any option to tell it where to download/install it to?
[20:21] <iToast> ikonia: I've never had to do this before.
[20:21] <ikonia> iToast: so you should be researching before doing
[20:21] <guest__> sorry dpkg should be apt-get
[20:21] <ikonia> iToast: stop mysql, search mysql.com for resetting the mysql password (it's well documented) and then follow the instructions
[20:21] <sskalnik> iToast:  Have you already tried the instructions here https://help.ubuntu.com/11.04/serverguide/C/mysql.html?
[20:21] <HugiN_> how can i activate a screensaver on ubuntu 11.10?
[20:22] <schnuffle1> iToast: There's just a short answer: You should have but you didnt' so do it in the future. I told you already how to stop it
[20:22] <iToast> schnuffle1: I tried what you said with no success
[20:22] <schnuffle1> iToast: Did it work out?
[20:22] <fhtagn> sskalnik: i know, i just needed some guidelines to get me started (filesystems, usual size, etc^^)
[20:22] <iToast> sudo dpkg-reconfigure mysql-server-5.1
[20:22] <schnuffle1> iToast: what was te problem then.
[20:22] <iToast> That worked perfectly
[20:23] <iToast> schnuffle1: thank you
[20:23] <sskalnik> fhtagn:  The setup you mentioned is probably a good one
[20:23] <iToast> You just saved me a hour of googling.
[20:23] <sskalnik> iToast:  actually that solution is in the first link I got from googling the issue
[20:23]  * cypher-neo is tired...
[20:24] <iToast> sskalnik: That didn't help me remotely.
[20:24] <guest__> sudo  apt-get install oracle-xe  1.5 gig error message not enough space on usb os have about 3.5 GB of memory now ;)
[20:24] <fhtagn> sskalnik: ty
[20:24] <sskalnik> fhtagn:  no prob
[20:25] <iToast> There, I've got SMF installed.
[20:25] <Chotaz> I need to backup a folder inside ~/.config but everytime I try to cp it to my external HDD it ommit the directory(?)
[20:25] <ikonia> Chotaz: what copy command are you using
[20:25] <guest__> ok , wanted to see if anybody knew out their a quick solution to get it working from a usb 4GB , apart from just using the main sata os I have forget it
[20:25] <Cyph3r> Found a workaround for my problem, but it's not a hard fix.
[20:25] <Chotaz> cp
[20:25] <ikonia> Chotaz: cp -R
[20:25] <sskalnik> iToast:  sudo dpkg-reconfigure.... did not help? It should work. Wasn't trying to be snarky with the google comment. Only saying it on the off chance that you had not googled already.
[20:25] <fhtagn> my usb is sdc. Should i install the bootloader in sdc1 (/boot) or sdc (the device itself) ? what is the diff?
[20:26] <ikonia> fhtagn: it goes on the disk - not the partition
[20:26] <Cyph3r> Leaving X (ctrl+alt+f1), then coming back to X (ctrl+alt+f7) restores keyboard functionality, then a terminal command restores touchpad functionality.  This seems to be a bit much to do EVERY TIME this happens. Anyone have a workaround?
[20:26] <fhtagn> ty. That is where grub will be, then? then what is /boot for?
[20:26] <ikonia> fhtagn: it holds the boot files
[20:27] <fhtagn> oh. k. bootloader != boot
[20:27] <ikonia> fhtagn: not the hoot loader
[20:27] <fhtagn> xD
[20:27] <fhtagn> ty
[20:27] <schnuffle1> fhtagn: /boot is the place where the kernel and everytginh necessary for the boot is stored
[20:28] <iToast> sskalnik: i tried google and got different results
[20:28] <ikonia> iToast: is your problem resolved yes/no ?
[20:28] <iToast> ikonia: Yes
[20:28] <lolek> hi there a question
[20:28] <iToast> Thats why i <3 ubuntu
[20:28] <ikonia> ok - lets move on
[20:28] <iToast> Everyone here is helpful.
[20:28] <bug2000> What do I do with this?
[20:28] <bug2000> dosfsck 3.0.12, 29 Oct 2011, FAT32, LFN
[20:28] <bug2000> FATs differ but appear to be intact. Use which FAT ?
[20:28] <sskalnik> iToast:  May have been a different search string. In any case, glad you got it resolved.
[20:29] <lolek> any idea, which software i can use to blur some elem,ent on the video under ubuntu ?
[20:29] <schnuffle1> iToast: at least tries to be :)
[20:29] <schnuffle1> lolek: you need a video edit tool?
[20:30] <iToast> sskalnik:  schnuffle1 Can i pm u the forums is setup
[20:30] <w30> SunTsu, maybe I need to do some further checking and see if booting into the other OS changes the file contents of each respective file. That will help sort things out with this problem.
[20:30] <schnuffle1> iToast: go ahead
[20:30] <schnuffle1> iToast: but i'll be off soon
[20:30] <lolek> schnuffle1: well, yes but which one.. i've already tried avidemux, lives, cinelerra, openshot video and.. still nothing.. there is no such tool in those programs
[20:31] <sskalnik> iToast:  sure
[20:31] <d1g1ta1> schnuffle1: the UI isn''t completely frozen (hourglass moves, numlock works, etc)... is there a way to see what the error is?
[20:31] <schnuffle1> lolek:  a tool for what exactly?
[20:31] <lolek> schnuffle1: i need to able to do something like you can see in tv, i.e. to blur out someones face
[20:31] <w30> SunTsu, it's bad when you can't trust what you see.
[20:32] <sskalnik> lolek:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ISqvkqyvnZM ?
[20:32] <lolek> oh, so lives can do that
[20:32] <lolek> hmm
[20:32] <sskalnik> lolek:  Also this one, much longer https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r1g9njqN4Wg
[20:32] <aydin> sorry for the newb question but can i use smuxi like mirc?
[20:33] <lolek> sskalnik: ok, will try out
[20:34] <schnuffle1> d1g1ta1: you can try ctrl+alt+f2 to get into a console, maybe you can see the errors
[20:34] <CipherX> omg, alt+tab works and the flag+num works...beautiful
[20:35] <schnuffle1> iToast: your apache setup is wrong
[20:35] <iToast> schnuffle1: Why
[20:35] <iToast> Gah >:O
[20:35] <lolek> sskalnik: ok, great thx a lot ;d
[20:35] <iToast> i forgot to configure apache
[20:36] <lolek> sskalnik: hmm there is still one problem... in my case.. the element that needs tio be blured out is moving :D
[20:37] <vouth> Hi! I can't hear anything out of my computer :-( Is anyone willing to give me a hand??
[20:37] <sskalnik> lolek:  Might be tricky. Check the documentation/community for the program.
[20:38] <sskalnik> !ask > vouth
[20:38] <lolek> ok, will try out
[20:38] <happyhessian> i'm trying to work with public key identification and running in to some trouble.  my understanding was that the contents of .ssh/authorized_keys and ssh-keyscan localhost should be the same but I see that they are not.  what's going on?
[20:38] <vouth> sskalnik: Um… that was my question :-P
[20:38] <vouth> sorry
[20:39] <_Ray_> Hi :) I'm getting "Package libc6-dev-i386 is not available, but is referred to by another package." If I can't install the package, where can I get the libraries needed to develop on my platform?
[20:39] <ikonia> _Ray_: what are you installing
[20:39] <_Ray_> libc6-dev-i386
[20:39] <w30> SunTsu, thanks for the help, I am going to play with this some more and come back with some more answers and some more questions.
[20:39] <_Ray_> ikonia: My compiler stopped working after updating to oneiric, complaining about "/usr/include/gnu/stubs.h:7:27: fatal error: gnu/stubs-32.h: No such file or directory"
[20:40] <_Ray_> Apparently, that file is in libc6-dev-i386.
[20:40] <ikonia> _Ray_: your headers have changed as your distribtion has been updated
[20:40] <_Ray_> How should I fix this, then?
[20:40] <ikonia> _Ray_: it sounds like it's still referencing the version in your older version
[20:40] <ikonia> _Ray_: run apt-get update first
[20:40] <_Ray_> Done :)
[20:41] <ikonia> _Ray_: apt-cache search libc6-dev
[20:41] <duckx> how is PEAR different from APT-GET ?
[20:41] <ikonia> duckx: I have never heard of pear so don't know
[20:41] <ikonia> duckx: the only pear I'm aware of is the php pear
[20:41] <mzaza> I can't find extension=mysql.so in the /etc/php5/apache2/php.ini file. Where should I add it in the php.ini file to get php work with mysql?
[20:42] <_Ray_> ikonia, -i386 doesn't seem to be there.
[20:42] <Nikooo777_> so, my laptop boots a windows 7 64 bit recovery disk but not a linux disk? i wonder why
[20:42] <ikonia> _Ray_: ok - so that's why it's not available anymore
[20:42] <_Ray_> What was the command to see which package has a particular file in it?
[20:42] <duckx> ikonia, yea tats wat i mean
[20:42] <ikonia> _Ray_: apt-file
[20:42] <ikonia> duckx: they are totally different software, it's like asking the difference between a car and a candle
[20:42] <ikonia> duckx: they have nothing in common
[20:42] <duckx> i dont understand why there are so many types of ways to install something... apt-get, php pear, etc
[20:43] <ikonia> duckx: php/pear is not a method of installing something
[20:44] <d1g1ta1> Is there a way to launch a text mode Lubuntu install from the Ctrl+Alt+F2 command line prompt?
[20:44] <sskalnik> Nikooo777_:  do you manually select the boot disk, or does the Win7 disk automagically get selected?
[20:44] <blackbox> is their any way you can specifically tell apt-get , aptitude ,... specifically where to download and install to? I know their is a download only or install option but do the allow you the option in someway to choose where to install/download to?
[20:44] <xangua> !nox | d1g1ta1
[20:44] <Nikooo777_> i think i found the problem
[20:44] <Nikooo777_> i extracted the files from the iso and burned them into a CD
[20:44] <Nikooo777_> i think i have to burn the image
[20:44] <sskalnik> Nikooo777_:  Bingo
[20:44] <Nikooo777_> ;)
[20:44] <Nikooo777_> now i see why i wasted 2 CD's and a DVD
[20:45] <d1g1ta1> (I'm on the installer DVD)
[20:45] <_Ray_> ikonia, I think I see the issue. My libraries are now in i686, and that's where g++ looks. But stubs-32.h is only in i386.
[20:45] <ikonia> _Ray_: sounds a good spot
[20:46] <d1g1ta1> xangua: will that make the DVD installer run text mode, or is that just for after you installed GUI linux?
[20:47] <vouth> Hi, I am getting no sound output. My audio cord is plugged into the headphone jack on the front of the computer. The output selected is 'Simultaneous Output'.
[20:47] <EvilResistance> what would cause the ext4 journal to become unclean, thus freezing the system and dumping i/o errors into tty1, thus requiring an fsck from the livecd to fix it?
[20:47] <Sensiva> Hello, How can I add a system user who is unable to login to shell in Ubuntu?
[20:48] <fhtagn> by setting his shell to /bin/false or so?
[20:48] <Nikooo777_> yep
[20:48] <Nikooo777_> that way
[20:48] <Sensiva> fhtagn should I add /bin/false to /etc/shells?
[20:48] <xangua> !alternate
[20:48] <xangua> d1g1ta1: you want to instal on text mode¿ use alternate
[20:49] <xangua> no idea if there is an alternate version for lubuntu
[20:49] <fhtagn> i dunno, i just see that some users have that shell (cat /etc/passwd)
[20:49] <quup> hi, upgrading from ubuntu 10.10 to whichever is currently stable, I have no monitor so I really can't have anything go wrong, what's the best way to do this?
[20:50] <Sensiva> fhtagn thanks
[20:50] <Tamale1> guys, how can I use gtk2.0 themes in ubuntu 11.10 ?
[20:50] <d1g1ta1> xangua:  i want to d o gui install but it freezes every time after the language selection.
[20:50] <ikonia> Tamale1: you can't
[20:50] <sskalnik> quup:  most foolproof method is to simply do a clean install, but otherwise https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[20:50] <Tamale1> ikonia: can I convert gtk2.0 themes to gtk 3.0 ones?
 ya , false will work
[20:51] <ikonia> Tamale1: no
[20:51] <quup> sskalnik: any install disc that starts up ssh and lets me configure through there without need for monitor?
[20:51] <Sensiva> blackbox yes , I wonder if I should add false to /etc/shells or not
[20:51] <Tamale1> ikonia: ouch.  So that's it, huh?  Say goodbye to my beautiful gtk2 themes and try to find a decent gtk3 theme on gnome-look?
[20:51] <vouth> ikonia: hmm? I thought they worked. I searched online for that and some forum post said they did…
[20:52] <fhtagn> Sensiva: http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/gutsy/man1/chsh.1.htmlit seems that a user can change their login shell. But if they have none to begin with (/bin/false) then there's no way they can input that command =/ i think.
is it for only one user or more?
[20:52] <ikonia> vouth: ubuntu's gui is built around gtk 3 now and unity
[20:52] <ikonia> vouth: parts of them may cross over,
[20:52] <Sensiva> blackbox one user
[20:52] <dgrijalva> hey guys.  dunno if this is the right place, but i have a question:
[20:52] <vouth> Tamale1: I don't know what your tastes are but this one is pretty cool: http://rvc-2011.deviantart.com/art/Lavender-Gnome-Shell-and-GTK3-theme-270280669
[20:53] <fhtagn> Sensiva: http://www.semicomplete.com/articles/ssh-security/ lol =/
[20:53] <Tamale1> vouth: lol
[20:53] <vouth> ikonia: hmm, ok. I'm still on 10.10 anyway :-D
[20:53] <dgrijalva> is is there any way I can fork a process an kill the parent without daemonizing?
[20:53] <ikonia> dgrijalva: if it's about ubuntu, it's the right place
[20:53] <ikonia> dgrijalva: no
 then just usermod the account a set his bash to false
[20:53] <sskalnik> quup:  Good question.
[20:53] <blackbox> a-->and
[20:53] <dgrijalva> i'm trying to get something to work with upstart
[20:53] <Sharpshooter> Guys , I have a to do a project in my  college so any one can suggest any projects that I can do in ubuntu ( like any applications ) !!
[20:53] <Sensiva> blackbox thanks
[20:53] <yacc> Any idea how to figure out what is causing corrupted file reads from hdd? (The hdd are all fine, if I believe SMART, and it happens perhaps once an hour, with md5sum --check running all the time (dropping the page cache between md5runs)
[20:54] <Tamale1> this is what I want in 11:10:   http://gnome-look.org/content/show.php/OrangeLiNstaBlackPlastic?content=62434
 no problem
[20:54] <ikonia> Tamale1: try it
[20:54] <dgrijalva> is it possible to get upstart to monitor something that will occasionally change pid?
[20:54] <Sharpshooter>  Guys , I have a to do a project in my  college so any one can suggest any projects that I can do in ubuntu ( like any applications ) !!
[20:54] <Tamale1> ikonia: I have no idea how to enable gtk2.0 themes
[20:54] <Tamale1> ikonia: that's the problem!
[20:54] <ikonia> Sharpshooter: we saw the first time - we can't help you with that
[20:55] <yacc> dgrijalva, how would it know the pid?
[20:55] <ikonia> Tamale1: install it as you would gtk3 theme
[20:55] <ok_wait> ok so i was running gnome until i upgraded from 11.04 to 11.10 and now i'm using lightdm with unity. i installed plasma-desktop to improvise for lack of customizations and broken features. my update manager wants to install kdm and i'm wondering if it's a good idea. there are still quite a few gnome packages installed (not gnome-session). will they conflict?
[20:55] <yacc> dgrijalva, the best guess would be writing a helper script that dies if it's target (the one with changing pids) disappears?
[20:55] <dgrijalva> @yacc yeah. i've been trying to do that
[20:55] <Tamale1> ikonia: I switch gtk3.0 themes with ubuntu-tweak or gnome-tweak-tools
[20:55] <fhtagn> Sharpshooter: what kind of project?
[20:55] <ikonia> Tamale1: do that then with a gtk2 theme
[20:56] <Tamale1> ikonia: I did, the gtk2.0 themes don't show up as options
[20:56] <dgrijalva> it's not possible to have the child attach to the tty of the parent?
[20:56] <ikonia> Tamale1: there is your answer then
[20:56] <yacc> dgrijalva, you'll probably want to use something like pgrep to verify: so you end up with: ( yourprogram & ) ; while pgrep yourprogram ; do sleep 1 ; done
[20:56] <idefix> does anybody have any experience with google talk-plugin?
[20:56] <Tamale1> ikonia: ha, that's why i'm here!
[20:57] <Sharpshooter> fhtagn,  any applications or any thing that can programed !!
[20:57] <yacc> dgrijalva, childs by default inherit the controlling tty if they don't demonize themselves?
[20:57] <dgrijalva> dont they demonize automatically if the parent dies?
[20:57] <sskalnik> Sharpshooter:  As in work *for* ubuntu?
[20:57] <DarkStar1> quick question if I copy via the cli I and I just want it to copy only the missing files at the destination over, how does one accomplish this?
 "is it possible to get upstart to monitor something that will occasionally change pid?" With a cronjob, and bash script ;)
[20:58] <guntbert> DarkStar1: have a look at rsync
[20:58] <ikonia> Sharpshooter: this channel is for supporting you in ubuntu, not helping you design school projects
[20:58] <Sharpshooter> sskalnik, yeah !!
[20:58] <ikonia> Sharpshooter: try somewhere like ##programming or #compsci
[20:58] <dgrijalva> @yacc some context: I'm trying to monitor a process that does a hot restart similar to nginx
[20:58] <yacc> Sharpshooter, 1.) you need to think about your college specs/requirements. E.g. should it be a 10 hour or 1000 hour project? 2) then you need to find something you want to do, 3) if it happens to be of general use, well, that's even nicer.
[20:58] <DarkStar1> guntbert: I was going to do that when I got home later. but for now I need something before I have to leave
[20:58] <sskalnik> Sharpshooter:  http://www.ubuntu.com/community/get-involved
[20:58] <Sharpshooter> ikonia, If I made then I can share it for ubuntu also !!
[20:59] <yacc> dgrijalva, well, how do you decide (as a human) that the process is running correctly?
[20:59] <dgrijalva> could do it with ps, i suppose
[20:59] <ikonia> Sharpshooter: but you don't know what you want to do - so think it up, try ##progamming or #compsci
[20:59] <yacc> Sharpshooter, first look at your college requirements, ...
[20:59] <guntbert> DarkStar1: it tis definitely your way to go
[20:59] <fhtagn> Sharpshooter: or even #reddit
[20:59] <Sharpshooter> yacc ,It is about 3 months
[20:59] <dgrijalva> i've been trying to make it just not return to the command line until all processes were dead
[20:59] <yacc> Sharpshooter, 3 months 8 hours per day or 1 hour per week?
[21:00] <dgrijalva> but if the parent goes, the child goes off on its own
[21:00] <oldschool> hi anyone know of a good program for makeing thumbnail screenshots on ubuntu something like this here http://www.google.com/imgres?q=movies+thumbnail+screenshots&um=1&hl=en&rls=com.microsoft:en-us:IE-Address&biw=1536&bih=738&tbm=isch&tbnid=QTdcG7iwrggKlM:&imgrefurl=http://zingalvs.blogspot.com/2011/10/how-to-make-thumbnails.html&docid=tNDQWrKQdmWhfM&imgurl=http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-YxHB7qvTvc0/S3AwmxVcWjI/AAAAAAAAAaU/-Ro8KJ1C3PQ
[21:00] <ikonia> yacc: Sharpshooter not in here -
[21:00] <Sharpshooter> Iam here!
[21:00] <DarkStar1> guntbert: is it installed by default?
[21:00] <ikonia> Sharpshooter: try ##programming or #compsci
[21:00] <guntbert> !info rsync
[21:01] <guntbert> DarkStar1: it seems so
[21:01] <Sharpshooter> yacc, 21 hour per week
[21:01] <ikonia> Sharpshooter: talk to yacc in private if you insist
[21:01] <ikonia> (please)
[21:01] <Tamale1> ikonia: i found this:  http://askubuntu.com/questions/88163/can-gtk2-themes-be-converted-to-gtk3-themes
[21:01] <Pici> Sharpshooter, yacc: again, this channel is only for Ubuntu support, use the channels that ikonia advised or in private please.
[21:01] <Gorilla_No_Baka> OK...  WHAT  do you guys think ?! will it work  ?  http://pastebin.com/9FzJWesq
[21:01] <yacc> dgrijalva, if it changes pids, that means either it dies and a monitor process restarts it (then you have no problem, because you've already got a monitor process that upstart can block on), or alternatively it forks/re-execs itself with the parent dying. If it writes a pid file, you can use ps or a file check in /proc to see if it still runs.
[21:02] <sskalnik> Gorilla_No_Baka:  Why not try it?>
[21:02] <xangua> Tamale1: then if you know css go ahead and port it ;)
[21:02] <yacc> dgrijalva, if not, you'll probably use something like ps ax | grep blabla => pgrep is the more correct solution to that.
[21:02] <Gorilla_No_Baka> because i am cautious?!!?
[21:02] <ikonia> Tamale1: try it, I can't see that being a good process, but I guess text -> css is doable
[21:03] <yacc> Any way, if you've got no monitor process from your app, you need to write something that starts your app, and loops checking that the app is running and terminates when the app is gone.
[21:03] <Tamale1> xangua: ikonia: I think I'll give it a shot. I really miss my black theme :(  Unless anyone here knows of a good black gtk3.0 theme?
[21:03] <ikonia> Tamale1: I found black ones on gnome-look.org
[21:03] <dgrijalva> @yacc I'm doing the latter (fork/exec).  i was hoping i could keep that from returning
[21:03] <dgrijalva> but it sounds like that's not a thing
[21:03] <xangua> Tamale1: there is an adwanta black version
[21:03] <Tamale1> ikonia: I found a couple called 'black', but they're just dark gray
[21:03] <xangua> the default gnome3 theme
[21:04] <wolfmitchell> I installed Ubuntu with Windows, and I need to make that partition bigger. What do I do?
[21:04] <Gorilla_No_Baka> wolfmitchell:  use gparted
[21:04] <xangua> wolfmitchell: wubi¿
[21:04] <dgrijalva> thanks for the help
[21:04] <wolfmitchell> Can I do it from within Windows?
[21:05] <Gorilla_No_Baka> why bother.. boot into the live cd and use gparte
[21:05] <yacc> dgrijalva, no chance, if the direct parent dies, the child becomes the child of PID 1 (aka init aka upstart)
[21:05] <wolfmitchell> I don't have a live CD, and I don't feel like making one...
[21:06] <xangua> then do nothing¿
[21:06] <Nikooo777_> wolfmitchell i just burned 4 cds lol
[21:06] <Nikooo777_> it isn't hard to burn one
[21:06] <Gorilla_No_Baka> wel... than go in lovely window.. ----> download and install gparted-----> use gparted
[21:06] <wolfmitchell> ...
[21:06] <Gorilla_No_Baka> well... than go in lovely windows.. ----> download and install gparted-----> use gparted  wolfmitchell
[21:06] <wolfmitchell> 1st off: I have no ISO. 2nd off: My download speed would make the download take a month.
[21:06] <Fotata> hi, I added an ide internal disk to my system but it is not being mounted automatically under /media, how can I do this?
[21:06] <dgrijalva> @yacc thanks.  one last question.  is it possible to get a signal about a process dying if I'm not part of that group?
[21:07] <yacc> So any ideas how localize my problem with faulty data being read from my hdd?
[21:07] <wolfmitchell> Ok gorrila
[21:07] <Gorilla_No_Baka> wolfmitchell:  than you are screwed
[21:07] <Gorilla_No_Baka> if it takes that much
[21:07] <xangua> wolfmitchell: gparted live cd doesn't weight a lot
[21:07] <yacc> dgrijalva, not really, AFAIK.
[21:07] <Gorilla_No_Baka> xangua:  i think is more confy doing it from the windows
[21:07] <dgrijalva> k
[21:07] <dgrijalva> thanks
[21:08]  * Gorilla_No_Baka goes back as his huge brain frying task.. his simple script :)
[21:09] <deusex1983> please could you help me
[21:10] <deusex1983> how i could solve the horizontal tearing problem with nvidia-settings under xubuntu 11.10
[21:10] <deusex1983> thanks
[21:13] <EvilResistance> deusex1983:  try in #xubuntu
[21:13] <deusex1983> k
[21:18] <tag> so if I'm using an alternate desktop environment (not unity) how do I get all of my themes and whatnot applied without starting unity?
[21:19] <Pici> EvilResistance: Those sort of problems are going to appear in any desktop environment, not really necessary to move people into our other channels for support.
[21:19] <EvilResistance> Pici:  i also have the issue on a server
[21:19] <EvilResistance> Pici:  hence the #ubuntu-server
[21:20] <Pici> deusex1983: Please ask here if you don't get a response in #xubuntu
[21:20] <EvilResistance> Pici:  since my server and my desktop both run off the same power system, i was assuming the power failures without complete shutdown were screwing with the journals
[21:21] <Pici> EvilResistance: I'm talking about deusex1983's question.
[21:21] <EvilResistance> Pici:  eh...?
[21:21] <EvilResistance> oh
[21:21] <EvilResistance> Pici:  i thought you were on about something else
[21:21] <EvilResistance> :P
[21:23] <geruja> Can't connect to wireless after making computer sleep on Ubuntu 10.04 however it works on windows, please help :/
[21:23] <yacc> geruja, consider unloading the wlan driver before sleeping and reloading it afterwards?
[21:23] <yacc> geruja, it's a hack, but might help.
[21:23] <geruja> yacc: how?
[21:24] <whowantstolivefo> hi, i installed ubuntu 11.10 yesterday... my sudo password doesnt accept, when i login i enter password this is true, but if i make anything from console, this asks root password and i enter, but it says this is wrong password, what can i do ?
[21:24] <geruja> geruja: i tried various methods of disabling, like blocking wifi, disabling network manager and etc
[21:24] <MrKeuner> hello, how does lucid know the system is idle so that it can suspendthe system?
[21:24] <geruja> yacc: i tried various methods of disabling, like blocking wifi, disabling network manager and etc
[21:24] <MrKeuner> in other words what is definition of idle according to lucid's power manager?
[21:25] <MrKeuner> in other words what is definition of "inactive" according to lucid's power manager?
[21:26] <yacc> geruja, well, the hardcore method is something like this (how to do it later in a nicer way is a different thing to consider): kill network manager (depends on your version of ubuntu), ifconfig wlan0 (or whatever your wlan device is called) down, lsmod, figuring out the driver, modprobe -r driver name
[21:26] <koegs> Xubuntu, 11.10, x64, amdcccle keeps crashing, but is able to generate a decent config without writing to xorg.conf
[21:26] <yacc> the reverse way after waking up would be modprobe driver & starting networkmanager.
[21:26] <koegs> how can i obtain the actual xorg config?
[21:27] <guntbert> whowantstolivefo: it asks for your own password, a root password is not set by default
[21:27] <geruja> yacc: i dont understand :/ my version is 10.04
[21:28] <geoffmcc> whowantstolivefo: are you logging in using the first account you created on Ubuntu, or is this an account you added afterwards?
[21:28] <yacc> geruja, privmsg?
[21:28] <geruja> yacc: ok
[21:29] <whowantstolivefo> i logging from my first account. i type ` 123123 ` to all password when i install... this is all nothing else password, but when i make things from console, sudo password is incorrect.
[21:29] <whowantstolivefo> guntbert:  i logging from my first account. i type ` 123123 ` to all password when i install... this is all nothing else password, but when i make things from console, sudo password is incorrect.
[21:29] <fhtagn> i know u guys prolly like tmux better, but i am using screen :P i don't seem to be able to create a new screen inside an already running session. How can i do that?
[21:29] <wolfmitchell> When using Wubi, what partition name does it make?
[21:30] <guntbert> whowantstolivefo: show us what you type in the console please
[21:30] <yacc> geruja, got my privmsg?
[21:31] <whowantstolivefo> guntbert:  okay , i figure it out. i use Turkish keyboard, and i see i type wrong, thanks anyway. i am dumb
[21:31] <guntbert> whowantstolivefo: no problem :) glad you worked it out
[21:31] <geoffmcc> whowantstolivefo: ok, first thing that comes to my mind based on your password is maybe numberlock isnt on
[21:31] <geoffmcc> whowantstolivefo: nevermind
[21:32] <whowantstolivefo> geoffmcc: im dumb today, too much works makes me insane recently days. thanks
[21:32] <wolfmitchell> Nvm,
[21:32] <geoffmcc> whowantstolivefo: please tell me with a pw like that you have no plan on seting up ssh server ;-)
[21:36] <Octane> about to install ubuntu again after a 6 year haitus
[21:36] <kutumaleo> Octane: Enjoy
[21:37] <auronandace> Octane: brace yourself, unity is different
[21:37] <Octane> well, im lying, i used to run kubuntu so kde not gnome
[21:37] <Gorilla_No_Baka> guys any ideas on why echo gives me line 17: /etc/X11/xorg.conf: Permission denied
[21:38] <auronandace> Octane: oh good, less of a shock for you (i'm a happy xfce user)
[21:39] <auronandace> Gorilla_No_Baka: you can't echo to that file as a normal user
[21:40] <Gorilla_No_Baka> in the script i hat typed first sudo su and then the lines auronandace
[21:40] <auronandace> Gorilla_No_Baka: i wouldn't advise doing sudo su
[21:41] <jutnux> Gorilla_No_Baka: Run the script as sudo
[21:42] <megamanx1978> can someone help me install the longene kernal?
[21:42] <Gorilla_No_Baka> OK auronandace  jutnux  HERE'S A pastebin of what i am trying to do..  i comented some of the stuff  the wget part is working perfect now i am tryin to focus on the echo part http://pastebin.com/yKGdBUtb
[21:43] <Gorilla_No_Baka> have a look at the script and tell me what am i doing wrong please
[21:43] <MrKeuner> hello, how does lucid know the system is idle so that it can suspend the system?
[21:43] <skegeek> What's the trick for moving icons in left vertical panel? I could when I first installed, but now once I release the mouse button, the app under the cursor launches instead of moving the icon.
[21:44] <megamanx1978> I am trying to use the longene kernal can someone help me?
[21:45] <BleKohl> I'm trying to create a custom Live CD for Ubuntu using UCK. The first time I run it on a freshly installed system, it works fine. The second time, however, it gives me errors when trying to upgrade all packages, the first and probably the main of them being "start: Unknown job: acpid". I've tried deleting the tmp folder before re-running uck, but it still gave me errors. I'm sure that I'm doing exactly the same steps. I can't really experiment with this be
[21:45] <BleKohl> cause unpacking the ISO takes a lot of time here. Any ideas what could be causing this or how to reset uck's state or something?
[21:45] <auronandace> megamanx1978: longene? what are you talking about?
[21:46] <fennec> does a process launched from upstart have access to the environment variables specified in /etc/environment by default?
[21:47] <megamanx1978> auronandance longene is a special kernal for linux
[21:47] <auronandace> !tab | megamanx1978
[21:47] <BleKohl> Meh, I guess I'll just reinstall ubuntu again.
[21:47] <auronandace> megamanx1978: never heard of it
[21:48] <auronandace> megamanx1978: its spelt kernel (not kernal)
[21:48] <megamanx1978> Here is the website /home/megamanx1978/longene-0.3.2-ubuntu10.04/kernel_2.6.34-Ubuntu10.04-longene-0.3.2_i386.deb
[21:48] <sskalnik> megamanx1978:  You may find more info on the forums. That is a very experimental kernel, and is not supported.
[21:48] <skegeek> I need help with an error dialog that has kept coming up each boot. Although, it didn't show this morning come to think of it. Here it is: http://pastebin.com/7Q0sD7qq
[21:49] <atomicfusion> what is the purpose in a group for each user, and why is the default umask to treat the user's group like "other"?
[21:50] <megamanx1978> When you say not supported does that mean not willing to help
[21:51] <sskalnik> megamanx1978:  No, but it does mean you may be unlikely to find someone who knows more than you do about the subject. That said, what are you having trouble with, specifically?
[21:52] <blackbox> Curious is the only place where log files are by default under /var/log/... or is their other places applications but their logs?
[21:52] <egoitz> Hi all!
[21:52] <blackbox> On linux/unix that is
[21:53] <egoitz> has anyone ver problems launching docky 2.1.3?
[21:53] <auronandace> blackbox: /var/log/ is traditional but it depends on the app as to where they keep the log
[21:54] <blackbox> like if one was hacking and wanted to clear his traces would all he have to do is get root privilige or enough privligae to delete/modify all the log files under their?
[21:55] <auronandace> blackbox: do you know how suggestive that sounds
[21:55] <blackbox> Provided they where not storing it on a remote server or using any NIS /honeypots
[21:56] <blackbox> I know I am just curious not going to do anything like that
[21:56] <megamanx1978> I get a error when I try to install the package I am using 10.04 btw
[21:56] <sskalnik> blackbox:  be that as it may, you may want to take that to a PM or another channel.
[21:56] <megamanx1978> Should I paste it?
[21:57] <blackbox> plus the problem would be getting root any way which would be a waste of my time , just trying to secure my logs;)
[21:57] <sskalnik> blackbox:  But to answer the question, there is more to covering your tracks than mere log files. ;)
[21:57] <ManDay> ikonia: Ping
[21:58] <samadam> hello. I've got a remote ubuntu machine that I
[21:58] <samadam> :/
[21:59] <samadam> I've got a remote ubuntu machine that I'd like to vnc into. I can connect to it, and VNC works just fine, but now the machine has been rebooted. I can ssh into it…but how do I get the vnc connection working?
[21:59] <blackbox> for example ? Not if you don't leave anything on the remote harddrive then it would be just the log files unless I am overlooking something
[22:00] <samadam> I need to start the GUI in some form or another
[22:01] <ManDay> Does anyone here own MATLAB?
[22:02] <samadam> sure
[22:02] <MrKeuner> hello, how does lucid know the system is idle so that it can suspend the system?
[22:03] <ManDay> MrKeuner: I assume Xlib - X measures that, anyway
[22:03] <auronandace> MrKeuner: the cursor hasn't been moved or the keyboard pressed in X amount of time
[22:03] <MrKeuner> auronandace, what if an ssh session is active?
[22:04] <Pero> how to set that sticky notes wont hide on click and will stay on desktop permanent?
[22:04] <insectatorious> Guys, I need to sort files via cmd line in desc order of size: 'ls -l | sort -k 5' isn't doing the trick
[22:04] <ikonia> Pero: I thought that was fixed in 11.04,
[22:04] <Pero> i have 10.10
[22:04] <ikonia> Pero: that used to be annoying in 10.04
[22:04] <ikonia> Pero: ahhh
[22:05] <Pero> i need fix for 10.10,can i get it?
[22:05] <auronandace> MrKeuner: i'd assume that would be remote keyboard activity so it wouldn't suspend (i could be wrong)
[22:05] <ManDay> ikonia: Got a minute?
[22:05] <ikonia> Pero: not sure if there is one, I knew it was targeted for 11.04
[22:05] <Pero> or some other lightweight program
[22:05] <ikonia> ManDay: for what ?
[22:05] <disappearedng> Hey does anyone here know if there's a keyboard shortcut to move window to another workspace in ubunutu?
[22:05] <ikonia> disappearedng: not aware of one
[22:06] <ManDay> ikonia: You said you had matlab. I have by now tried 2 versions of matlab on 2 versions of ubuntu and gentoo and I always get the same crash, can you try reproduce? (If it crashes, just tab to TTY and killall MATLAB)
[22:06] <ikonia> disappearedng: you can nudge them right/left with alt+arrow
[22:06] <ManDay> takes just 4 steps
[22:06] <Pero> anybody know some good lightweight program like sticky note?
[22:06] <disappearedng> ikonia, no you can't
[22:06] <ikonia> ManDay: I'm sorry I'm not doing any more with Matlab - I went to the effort of phoning the company and talking to someone for 35 minutes for you and you knew better, so you need to contact matlab for help
[22:07] <auronandace> ikonia: wow, a dedicated helper
[22:07] <trism> disappearedng: shift+ctrl+alt+arrow key
[22:07] <ikonia> trism: thank you
[22:07] <insectatorious> How does one display a list of files in desc order of size via cmd line?
[22:08] <pnorman> I'm trying to format a drive on a new sata card. I tried parted, but it gave me the error "Error: /dev/sdg: unrecognised disk label". How should I go about formatting it?
[22:08] <ikonia> pnorman: how big is the drive ?
[22:08] <disappearedng> trism, doesn't work either
[22:08] <disappearedng> I think I might have to change it
[22:08] <pnorman> ikonia: 1GB
[22:08] <pnorman> er, 1TB
[22:08] <Octane> i remember back in the day there were many packages not available for 64 bit. has that gotten better?
[22:08] <ikonia> pnorman: when you put a partition table on it it should get a label
[22:08] <ManDay> ikonia: I already contacted matlab, yet it would help if another user could reproduce it. besides, stop bitching about our disagreement lately
[22:08] <trism> disappearedng: in oneiric it is set in System Settings/Keyboard/Shortcuts/Navigation
[22:08] <auronandace> Octane: what packages are you thinking of?
[22:09] <ikonia> ManDay: don't tell me what to do - I went to great effort to help you, deal with matlab directly, this channel doesn't support it
[22:09] <trism> insectatorious: du | sort -nr
[22:09] <unpaidbill> anyone know why when I copy/paste text from vim in a terminal window it adds a ton of whitespace before the newlines (as much whitespace as the window is wide minus the amount of text on the line
[22:10] <insectatorious> trism: executing...
[22:10] <trism> insectatorious: sorry that wouldn't be files
[22:10] <unpaidbill> it's driving me crazy!
[22:10] <auronandace> ManDay: seriously, he spent 35 mins on a phone for you...
[22:10] <insectatorious> trism: yeah...that's disk usage
[22:10] <ManDay> ikonia: for the record, i went through possibly even bigger effort blindly following your instructions into party  the complete wrong direction
[22:10] <w30> Octane, I use a package called getlibs and I can run any 32bit program on 64bit machine.
[22:10] <blackbox> Does anyone here own MATLAB? use Octave it is opensource equivalent sort of to matlab
[22:10] <ManDay> auronandace: I'm impressed and thankful. But I really did not ask him to do that
[22:10] <ManDay> I would never have.
[22:11] <insectatorious> trism: I was trying 'ls -l | sort -k 5'
[22:11] <pangolin> ManDay: awesome, drop it now please since matlab is not supported in here.
[22:11] <ManDay> Fine.
[22:11] <pangolin> thank you.
[22:11] <w30> Octane, you need a little bit of room for some 32 bit libs but otherwise np.
[22:11] <megamanx1978> Here is the error I get when I try to install the longene kernel package http://imagebin.org/189777
[22:11] <leftist> has anyone successfully installed orangehrm?
[22:11] <pp7> what is that?
[22:12] <rannmann> How can I test my login credentials via LDAP from the command line?
[22:12] <leftist> human resources environment
[22:12] <pnorman> My existing drives that were partitioned on installation use msdos. Should I use the same for the new drives? They will all be going into a RAID array
[22:12] <trism> insectatorious: perhaps something with find: find /path -printf '%b %p\n' | sort -nr
[22:12] <_Shurik_> Guys, I have an annoying problem - my laptop that runs Ubuntu doesn't have USB (chipset damage), so I use PCMCIA.  However, when I get to a boot options (after forced shut-down), there's no way I can choose (load normally). Is there a setting to enable a default selection countdown ?
[22:12] <leftist> i am having problems with permissions
[22:12] <leftist> brb
[22:12] <pp7> leftist: sounds boring :P
[22:12] <ikonia> _Shurik_: how does it load not normally ?
[22:12] <leftist> pp7 it is totally frustrating.
[22:13] <_Shurik_> ikonia: once  a month it would freeze and I have to force power off laptop
[22:13] <pp7> :P
[22:13] <leftist> i cant get write permissions to install the blasted crap
[22:13] <insectatorious> trism: any ideas on getting 'sort' to sort the results of 'ls -l' on the size column?
[22:13] <megamanx1978> Can someone help me fix that error?
[22:13] <ikonia> _Shurik_: ok - so how does it not load normally ?
[22:13] <_Shurik_> I'm sure it just has some hardware problems
[22:13] <kutumaleo> I was sharing using all my bandwidth and the IT guy tell me to unplug my connection, how can i come back again?
[22:13] <rannmann> Any ideas on what package "ldapbind" is in?
[22:13] <_Shurik_> So then as soon as I boot BIOS, I see selection for loading options - normal, safe (I think)
[22:13] <pp7> rannmann: u tried: apt-cache search ldapbind ?
[22:13] <ikonia> rannmann: ldap client
[22:14] <_Shurik_> And there's no timeout. Can't press any buttons at that time since no PCMCIA was loaded...
[22:14] <ikonia> _Shurik_: ok, so what happens when you select normal
[22:14] <pnorman> insectatorious: ls -lS
[22:14] <ikonia> _Shurik_: it will default to "normal"
[22:14] <_Shurik_> I can't because my USB is dead
[22:14] <ikonia> _Shurik_: what has usb got to do with it ?
[22:14] <_Shurik_> so I can't press any buttons (keyboard is out)
[22:14] <_Shurik_> I use PCMCIA -> USB card to drive external keyboard
[22:14] <_Shurik_> that works only once OS has been loaded
[22:14] <ikonia> _Shurik_: ok, now I see
[22:15] <insectatorious> pnorman: whoa! that's amazing....like magic! thanks :D
[22:15] <_Shurik_> so I'm just stuck there
[22:15] <ikonia> _Shurik_: it should default to "normal" it won't default to recovery mode
[22:15] <_Shurik_> I can boot into live CD - is there anything I can change on the disk, such as setting?
[22:15] <pnorman> insectatorious: -lSr will do it in reverse. there's a whole bunch of sort options, see --sort in man ls
[22:15] <ikonia> _Shurik_: no, it will default to the normal boot option
[22:15] <_Shurik_> ikonia, problem is that it will just sit there indefinitely...
[22:15] <_Shurik_> waiting for me to press enter :-/
[22:16] <insectatorious> pnorman: righto! cheers
[22:16] <ikonia> _Shurik_: then it sounds like it's locking
[22:16] <ikonia> _Shurik_: it won't be waiting for you to press enter, it should auto boot in 3 seconds (I think 3 is default)
[22:17] <Leif> I installed windows on my machine, and am now trying to grub to work again so I can boot into ubuntu again using this guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[22:17] <trism> insectatorious: pnorman command is definitely the way to go, but you were close with your command, just needed a -n to sort
[22:17] <_Shurik_> ikonia: here's where it gets stuck: http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p150/whateva07/Ubuntu-recovery.jpg
[22:18] <Leif> But I can't get the first command to work, I get: ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo grub-install /dev/sda Could not find device for /boot: Not found or not a block device.
[22:18] <_Shurik_> ikonia: this is not my screen, just something I googled up. So don't pay attention to versions etc
[22:18] <insectatorious> trism: aha....needed the numeric sort flag...thanks!
[22:18] <Leif> Any suggestions?
[22:18] <blackbox> what does df show Leif ?
[22:19] <blackbox> do you even have /dev/sda
[22:19] <insectatorious> trism, pnorman : not to get greedy here, but is there any way to compute the size of sub-directories as well in the list?
[22:19] <insectatorious> no biggie if it can't be done
[22:19] <Leif> blackbox: http://pastebin.com/ZRh29EBu
[22:19] <_Shurik_> ikonia: thanks for responding.  I completely forgot - I have to run. Will try your help later :)
[22:20] <Leif> blackbox: It shows up, along with /dev/sda1,2,3,4,5
[22:20] <pnorman> insectatorious: I use du to do that. du -h --max-depth 1 ./
[22:20] <Leif> blackbox: (when I'm looking at the folder anyway)
[22:20] <insectatorious> pnorman: executing...
[22:21] <pnorman> insectatorious: if you run that on / expect it to take awhile and run into some errors when it tries to get size information on some system related directories
[22:21] <Leif> blackbox: Also if this helps: http://pastebin.com/miXA2DbF
 your root / is mounted on /cow ?  fun
[22:22] <oldschool> hi anyone know of a good program for makeing thumbnail screenshots on ubuntu
[22:23] <Leif> blackbox: Oh wow, I didn't actually do that. :)
[22:23] <skegeek> Did anyone ever see my pastbin?
[22:23] <insectatorious> pnorman: yeah, im going through the dirs that i know are heavy...
[22:23] <insectatorious> cheers
[22:24] <blackbox> so your /dev/sda must not be mounted ?
[22:24] <blackbox> which I don't think that matters for grub-install anyway , let me think
[22:25] <blackbox> why did you show me your symlinks ?
[22:25] <don262> Hi all, I am using 11.04 with the nomodeset option in grub because of my default Dell video.  Can I install 11.10 with the same option?
[22:25] <d1g1ta1>  Is there a good free ext3 driver for Windows that, unlike ext3fs, can work with drives formatted with more the older Linuxes block size (e.g., 128K)?
[22:26] <petri> Hello :)
[22:26] <d1g1ta1> more = more than
[22:26] <Leif> blackbox: no, I guess not.  And I sent you that because the command was on the page, but I'm fairly certain the drive is /dev/sda as it's a laptop with only one drive.
[22:26] <Leif> blackbox: (When I said the page, I ment this one: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows )
[22:26] <petri> my unity is mess up'
[22:26] <sskalnik> don262:  yes
[22:26] <don262> thanks sskalnik
[22:27] <blackbox> send me what you get when you type blkid
[22:27] <skegeek> I need help figuring out this error please: http://pastebin.com/7Q0sD7qq
[22:27] <sskalnik> don262:  no prob
[22:27] <Leif> blackbox: Nothing prints out, should I give it any flags?
[22:28] <d1g1ta1> Is there a reliable free R/W ext4 driver for Windows?
[22:28] <blackbox> try -L
[22:28] <don262> one other question.  After I do a full system restore with DejaDup, I end up on the full screen terminal.  How do I get to grub??
[22:29] <blackbox> maybe you have an older version but my when you type in no options displays the volume labels and harddisks on the system
[22:29] <Leif> blackbox: Any label in particular?  I tried with sda and nothing prints out.  (I haven't used blkid before, I'm still going through the docs)
[22:29] <skegeek> It started happening following a reboot after I added 1280x1024 resolution and allowed system update to run/complete.
[22:29] <Leif> blackbox: blkid from util-linux 2.19.1 (libblkid 2.19.0, 02-May-2011)
[22:29] <blackbox> blkid -L /dev/sda
[22:29] <Leif> blackbox: hmm...still nothing.
[22:30] <blackbox> man blkid look for how to display your HDD
[22:30] <Leif> blackbox: I also tried using this tutorial: http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/ubuntu/reinstall-ubuntu-grub-bootloader-after-windows-wipes-it-out/
[22:30] <Leif> blackbox: with no results, here is my output:
[22:31] <blackbox> Ok , use Gparted
[22:31] <Leif> http://pastebin.com/rd7aXDek
[22:31] <Leif> blackbox: http://pastebin.com/rd7aXDek
[22:31] <d1g1ta1> can you write to ext2/3/4 with Ext2Fsd or is it RO?
[22:31] <blackbox> look up what is in the drop down box should list /dev connected
[22:32] <ikonia> d1g1ta1: it's not stable
[22:32] <blackbox> try ls /dev give me the out put of that
[22:32] <Leif> blackbox: In the top right corner?  It says /dev/sda
[22:33] <blackbox> forget the gparted this is quicker just do ls /dev and send it to me in pastebin or something
[22:33] <d1g1ta1> ikonia: is it less stable than ext2ifs
[22:33] <d1g1ta1> ?
[22:34] <fennec> so. there are environment variables in /etc/environment. there is an upstart job in /etc/init/myservice.conf. I want the service in myservice.conf to have access to allllll the environment variables in /etc/environment. How is this accomplished?
[22:34] <urlin2u> Leif, if you could post the bootscript it would be helpful, pastebin the results.txt.  http://bootinfoscript.sourceforge.net/
[22:34] <Leif> blackbox: http://pastebin.com/NFdyHyd6
[22:34] <fennec> (the environment variables and their values in /etc/ environment are not known ahead of time).
[22:35] <blackbox> also ls /dev | grep sd
[22:35] <johey> I have installed ubuntu with encrypted home directory. Now I have a directory ~/.Private containing lots of files with strange names, like ECRYPTFS_FNEK_ENCRYPTED.FXalFk6VlA.JokQNqNaSjHsy81RTtSzdoh.3DIKlpXCQvSt3aMeeKPFiLQQeysqB58r4qVn2JS65VVk- .. What are those files?
[22:36] <Um_cara_qualquer> does anybody knows how to insert a srt file in some movie?
[22:36] <Leif> urlin2u: http://pastebin.com/rpaFFWt6
[22:36] <blackbox> weird you must have paritition the drive with an extended parition correct /dev/sda5 ?
[22:36] <gentracer> I have tried with 3 different USB creators to create a Live USB for 10.10.3 - both 32 and 64 bit - all failed with error 'Unable to find a medium containing a live file system.  Suggestions?
[22:36] <Leif> blackbox: http://pastebin.com/ydjWSd0X
[22:37] <Leif> blackbox: Yes, there is an extended partition.
[22:37] <Guest13137> ho
[22:37] <urlin2u> Leif, are you just trying to reload grub?
[22:38] <don262> i am
[22:38] <Leif> blackbox: /dev/sda1 is windows, sda2is linux, sda3 is the extended drive sda5 is swap, and sda4 is a recovery partition that came with the drive.
[22:38] <Leif> urlin2u: Yes
[22:38] <blackbox> and 4 primaries ? looks like a bad partitioning when you open gparted can you give a screen shot of it for /dev/sda
[22:38] <Leif> urlin2u: I installed windows and am trying to fix grub now.
[22:39] <Leif> blackbox: 3 primaries, 1 extended with 1 logical, one moment for screenshot
[22:39] <blackbox> that makes sine
[22:39] <blackbox> sense
[22:39] <urlin2u> Leif, follow this live cd reload if you have the same cd as the install, read carefully. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2#Copy_LiveCD_Files
[22:40] <gentracer> are you saying that I need to create/mount a file system?  I didn't have to do that for the 11.10 I tried, it just worked
[22:40] <Leif> blackbox: http://s10.postimage.org/3o7tnopih/Screenshot_at_2011_12_21_22_39_18.png
[22:40] <zorlac> hello ive jsut installed apache2 im trying to but my site into the /usr/share/apache2/defaultsite  folder
[22:40] <blackbox> don't know about what the recovery partition is doing is their any Host protection area installed on the drive ?
[22:41] <zorlac> but it wont allow me to copy it there
[22:41] <peepsalot> has anyone successfully added a network printer in ubuntu 11.10?
[22:41] <ikonia> zorlac: use sudo
[22:41] <gentracer> quit
[22:41] <ikonia> peepsalot: yes, I have a HP printer on the network addeded fine
[22:41] <don18quichotte> salut
[22:41] <zorlac> oh ok hang on
[22:41] <Leif> urlin2u: Okay, I'll try it (the os on the drive is 11.10, as is the disk)
[22:41] <urlin2u> Leif, hold on I will give you the commands in a pastebin.
[22:42] <Guest13137> checkin
[22:42] <Leif> blackbox: It came with the drive and I never bothered to take it off.  It is a primary partition though.
[22:42] <Leif> blackbox: What is a host protection area?
[22:42] <ryychuu> jest tu ktoś z polandi
[22:42] <ikonia> !pl | ryychuu
[22:42] <peepsalot> ikonia, http://i.imgur.com/I4soI.png this add printer screen doesn't work.  the add button is always grayed out, and i'm not sure what "search by address" is supposed to do, but doesnt' appear to do anything
[22:42] <peepsalot> ikonia, does yours look different?
[22:43] <urlin2u> Leif,  here you go make sure no partitons are mounted first use gparted to check before running commands. http://paste.ubuntu.com/778030/
[22:43] <ikonia> peepsalot: pretty much do what it's telling you, firewall is not running (so start it) samba is needed, so install it etc etc
[22:43] <blackbox> are you using grub 2 or older versions ?
[22:43] <ikonia> peepsalot: the message in the box is being pretty clear
[22:44] <peepsalot> ikonia, i don't see any firewalld package.
[22:44] <peepsalot> ikonia, and i don't need to "detect" it, i already know the IP!
[22:44] <Leif> blackbox: I would assume grub2
[22:45] <urlin2u> Leif, you get the command I posted run them from the live cd.
[22:45] <blackbox> what does grub --version say ?
[22:45] <ikonia> peepsalot: I detected mine as I was using dhcp
[22:45] <urlin2u> blackbox, read the bootsvript posted.
[22:46] <Leif> urlin2u: grub-install doesn't seem to recognize the --boot-directory flag
[22:46] <Leif> blackbox: Oh wow: grub (GNU GRUB 0.97)
[22:46] <blackbox> wait what is that file in your screen shoot  boot_info....sh for ?
[22:47] <urlin2u> Leif, first did you check that any partitions were mounted, and what is the actual error you h=get
[22:47] <Leif> urlin2u: Here are the flags it seems to take: ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo grub-install -- --force-lba        --help             --recheck          --root-directory, --grub-shell       --no-floppy        --root-directory   --version
[22:47] <usuario> who are you?
[22:47] <tech2> Hi all, I'm trying to work out what's causing a package to be marked as "to be removed" on a dist-upgrade, any pointers?
[22:48] <peepsalot> how do i enable "firewalld"
[22:48] <Leif> urlin2u: Yes, no drives were mounted (as far as I could tell), and no error, it simply doesn't recognize the flag and prints out usage.
[22:48] <urlin2u> Leif, did you run the comands I posted for you?
[22:48] <Leif> urlin2u: Yup, here: http://pastebin.com/m1HGqiPX
[22:48] <blackbox> do you have /boot directories on all of your linux partitions ?
[22:49] <Leif> urlin2u: Do you mean --boot-directory?
[22:49] <Leif> erm --root-directory
[22:49] <Leif> urlin2u:
[22:49] <urlin2u> Leif, did you run both commands in the order posted?
[22:49] <skegeek> Is there a good free graphical pdf editor?
[22:49] <Leif> urlin2u: yes I have /dev/sda2 mounted to /mnt
[22:49] <zorlac> ok well actually i have a diferent problem
[22:49] <Captain_Crow> urlin2u, hello!
[22:49] <tech2> skegeek: that's like asking if there's a good graphical postscript editor, isn't it?
[22:50] <urlin2u> Leif, are you in root or running sudo?
[22:50] <blackbox> wait you cann't use grub if you are going to have a NTFS windows computer to boot you need to chainload ?
[22:50] <urlin2u> blackbox, bro your way off.
[22:50] <Leif> urlin2u: Nott root, and I did run sudo with those commands.
[22:50] <zorlac> ive installed apche2. the default page keeps coming up.  how do i make my webpage come up when i type in localhost
[22:50] <urlin2u> Leif, go down to the chroot part of the grub 2 wiki and use that.
[22:50] <Leif> blackbox: yes, I have a /boot directory
[22:51] <Leif> urlin2u: Mmm...okay
[22:52] <blackbox> All I am trying to say is that if he is using windows it needs to be the on prim 1 and he could either use the ntldr config files to boot linux or use a floppy/cd/dvd/usb to chain load the other os's to boot
[22:52] <pnorman> This SATA card has drivers for various versions of redhat, centos and suse but none specifically for ubuntu. Which driver do you think I should use? It's a Marvell 9480 chipset.
[22:52] <newsun> Hi! Would the 64bit version of ubuntu hava any benefit over the 32bit with a core2duo 1.86GHz and 2GB RAM?
[22:53] <e2b04836> zorlac: remove the default index.html and replace it with your own
[22:53] <urlin2u> Leif, so what is this force stuff you posted "sudo grub-install -- --force-lba"\
[22:53] <Leif> urlin2u: When you say grub wiki, do you mean the ubuntu wiki on grub?: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2
[22:54] <Leif> blackbox: Yes, windows is on the first primary drive
[22:54] <urlin2u> Leif, yes there is a chroot section below the live cd load if it was me I would delte the grub-pc grub-common and reload them.
[22:54] <Leif> urlin2u: Umm...I don't know, what link was that one in?
[22:55] <Jef91> Unity uses GTK 3 right?
[22:55] <urlin2u> Leif, defaults to the chroot https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2#ChRoot
[22:55] <eipi-1> hi, i would like to switch between laptop speaker and headphone via software (instead of pulling/plugging headphone) or maybe even play different on both outputs. Any chance?
[22:56] <blackbox> what grub-install is going to do is wipe out the mbr code for windows loader which would kill your windows os mbr? Do you really want to do that
[22:56] <urlin2u> Leif, you can just try it as is without the deleting first.
[22:56] <urlin2u> blackbox, that is not gtrue you are not exsperienced here.
[22:56] <newsun> Hello! pls tell me 32bit or 64bit
[22:57] <Captain_Crow> is ubuntu 11 ever going to have a non-glitchy/crashy version?
[22:57] <urlin2u> blackbox, I noticed you were wasting this users time otherwise I would not have tried to get gthem back in order
[22:57] <blackbox> grub-install is going to copy the grub first stage to his first sector
[22:58] <newsun> H E L L O O O O O O.............
[22:58] <Leif> urlin2u: blackbox Okay, well I'm going through the steps.  I don't mind reinstalling windows if needed, reinstalling linux would be more of a pain,
[22:58] <sskalnik> newsun:  Possibly
[22:58] <Rapp> hi everyone
[22:58] <Rapp> how do i set vlc to be the default dvd player?
[22:59] <sskalnik> newsun:  Also, patience is a virtue. Being obnoxious like that will not elicit responses.
[22:59] <Kaapa> hello everyone. Any powertop users? I'm trying to debug my laptop's battery consumption, as it seems way high
[22:59] <Rapp> right now the standard player from ubuntu 11 is opening automatically
[22:59] <urlin2u> Leif, I have to reboot be right back.
[22:59] <newsun> sskalnik: Thanks for the reply.
[22:59] <sskalnik> newsun:  That aside, to answer your question, it really depends on what you are doing with your machine. x64 might be a slightly better choice.
[23:00] <sskalnik> newsun:  No prob
[23:00] <OerHeks> blackbox grub just sets an other partition active, it does not touch the windows bootloader.
[23:00] <hydester> anybody used ecryptfs over cifs?  it appears to work if i create a file in the mount, but copying results in 0 byte files that are corrupt upon remount (or native windows side)
[23:00] <newsun> I want to install a solaris 10 (and possibly 11) and install another via the jumpstart method.
[23:00] <skegeek> What is doublescan mode for X server?
[23:00] <chiggins> Hey is there any log or something that I can look at to see why my server randomly shut off?
[23:01] <sskalnik> Rapp:  right-click, Open With Other Application, Use for This Kind of File
[23:01] <e2b04836> chiggins /var/log/messages
[23:01] <skegeek> Xorg log says it's not using a bunch of screen resolutions because they don't support doublescan mode...
[23:01] <Rapp> sskalnik: thanks
[23:01] <sskalnik> Rapp:  you are most welcome.
[23:02] <sskalnik> chiggins:  /var/log/ contains the relevant logs. Check syslog and messages
[23:02] <skegeek> It also says it falls back to VESA because it cannot find intel_drv, which it probably needs since I have an intel graphics card.
[23:03] <Nach0z> I have a question for yall and it's fairly important. I run a server and I accidentally removed all users from the sudoers file. However when I try to drop into root prompt in recovery mode it's asking for my root password but my root has never had a password set. what do I do here?
[23:03] <Nach0z> Every time I try any of my passwords that have ever been set it says login incorrect.
[23:03] <newsun> sskalnik: I'm running out of RAM on the xp host with 2 solaris guests running simultaneously. Anyway, do you think the 64bit ubuntu will perform better than the 32bit as far as vbox is concerned?
[23:04] <e2b04836> nach0z mount the drive on a livecd and replace the sudoers file?
[23:04] <sskalnik> newsun:  As a guest or host?
[23:04] <newsun> ubuntu as host
[23:04] <Nach0z> .... replace the sudoers file. that's all I can do? son of a gun. that's not what I needed to hear... this is bad.
[23:04] <blackbox> well, I have to say I am not sure what the problem is with grub mis-behaving but if you can start from scratch and reformat/repartitions , Then load your windows on prim1 (be sure to back up)
[23:05] <sskalnik> newsun:  I would use a 64bit ubuntu host (and a RAM upgrade ASAP).
[23:05] <urlin2u> blackbox, grub can be deleted from a chroot and reloaded.
[23:05] <Leif> blackbox: Mmm...thanks.  I just finished going through the link posted and am going to reboot and see if that worked.  Back momentariily.
[23:05] <sskalnik> newsun:  The bottleneck is definitely the memory though, so that will limit what Ubuntu can do for you. Thankfully 8GB is like $40, so that should be a simple fix
[23:05] <newsun> sskalnik: I'm afraid no more upgrade on THIS pc is possible. 2 DIMMs are filled
[23:06] <sskalnik> newsun:  You may be able to pop out the old DIMMs and use new ones. If it's not more than a few years old, you can probably go up to at least 4GB if not several times more.
[23:06] <skegeek> newsun: I stopped using VBox because it seems to hog memory, at least after some time.
[23:07] <newsun> sskalnik: The upgrade now means a whole new box entirely (which I do need btw, with usb3/RAID5/PCIe2 etc)
[23:08] <sskalnik> newsun:  Sounds like a good plan. Ubuntu will probably be a bit better than Windows even without the hardware upgrade, but again, the hardware is the real issue.
[23:08] <blackbox> well ya you could dd the whole think what is chroot going to do? Other then change the root /
[23:08] <sskalnik> newsun:  hope that answers your quandary.
[23:09] <Kaapa> any powertop users here? I'd like to validate some numbers. I get 12 W discharge and 670 wakeup calls/sec
[23:10] <Octane> w30 thanks
[23:10] <Leif> blackbox: It worked, thanks for the help. :D
[23:10] <Leif> urlin2u: It worked, thanks for the help. :D
[23:10] <newsun> sskalnik: Well, not quite. I do know I have to upgrade soon, but  for now I have to put up with what I have. So just curious about the 64bit
[23:11] <urlin2u> Leif, no problem
[23:11] <Holehearted> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomization says I must change the uid of any user with uid > 999
[23:11] <Holehearted> I got "nobody" with uid 65534 and "postgres" with uid of 1000
[23:11] <Holehearted> do I need to change these? is it safe to do so?
[23:11] <MrKeuner> hello, how does lucid know the system is idle so that it can suspend the system?
[23:12] <sskalnik> newsun:  i would go with 64bit
[23:12] <sskalnik> newsun:  Even though you would only use 2GB of RAM, you could benefit from faster native x64 code, and have an easier time with x64 guests.
[23:13] <newsun> sskalnik: Thanks. That's all I needed to know, since the ubuntu download page never seems to consider the 64bit one "reccomendable" ;)
[23:13] <sskalnik> newsun:  afaik that is changing.
[23:13] <newsun> sskalnik: Sooner the better
[23:15] <newsun> c yall
[23:17] <b1llydev> is there a guide
[23:17] <b1llydev> a good beginners guide for linux
[23:17] <b1llydev> whether it be a web resource or paid book
[23:17] <b1llydev> any recommendations ?
[23:18] <jutnux> There are numerous guides around the Interwebs b1llydev on anything you want ot know about.
[23:18] <jutnux> YouTube is a good place ot start, also.
[23:19] <Nach0z> I have the ubuntu 11.04 x86 ISO file mounted as a cd drive on my computer, but when I run the wubi.exe it doesn't give me the option to create a live USB stick. is there something I'm missing here?
[23:20] <xangua> !usb | Nach0z
[23:20] <kion> Nach0z: try using the creata startup disks utility
[23:21] <urlin2u> co
[23:21] <arooni-mobile> my page up/down buttons are currently not working on my keyboard.... is there a way to 1) change key shortcut for terminal app's switch tabs function (normallyu control + page up) and 2) same for chrome?
[23:21] <Nach0z> thanks.
[23:24] <passeride> hellu
[23:26] <passeride> help
[23:26] <passeride> nvm
[23:31] <Nach0z> Well.
[23:31] <Nach0z> The boot from USB failed
[23:31] <Nach0z> says that some com file is not a valid com32R file
[23:32] <Nach0z> afaik, that means it's borked.
[23:33] <e2b04836> have you tried single user mode btw? i might have sent you in the wrong direction :3
[23:35] <urlin2u> Nach0z, load the usb with unetbootin then run the wubi.
[23:36] <histo> !install | Nach0z
[23:36] <urlin2u> Nach0z, do you really want a wubi it is not designed for long term use?
[23:37] <vouth> Hi again. Whenever I choose 'show extracted files' in File Roller, it opens Nautilus even though Dolphin is my default file manager. Why is that??
[23:37] <just4fun> hi all
[23:40] <passeride> anyone here doing 12.04? is it stable ?
[23:40] <intok> How can I force what GPU is the default? I've got a craptacular Dell that doesn't have a BIOS option to disable the IGP, I've got a PCI GPU(Geforce 6200/NV44a) but some full screen games like Braid and the terminal shells accessed by ctrl+alt+F* combos give just a blank screen.
[23:40] <xangua> !pangolin | passeride
[23:40] <urlin2u> passeride, it s not released yet and it's channel is #ubuntu+1
[23:40] <urlin2u> is*
[23:41] <passeride> ty | urlin2u
[23:41] <Clayman1000x> Looking for help with my Netgear wna3100 wireless usb adapter
[23:42] <urlin2u> passeride, no problem.
[23:43] <ssbr_> how do I cancel an install? :/
[23:43] <Clayman1000x> I ujsed the command lsusb and my adapter sows up, I have the ndiswrapper and the broadcom drivers but can't seem to put things together
[23:43] <Holehearted> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomization says I must change the uid of any user with uid > 999
[23:43] <Holehearted> I got "nobody" with uid 65534 and "postgres" with uid of 1000
[23:43] <Holehearted> do I need to change these? is it safe to do so?
[23:43] <ssbr_> did sudo apt-get install darcs .   darcs was not what I thought it was.
[23:44] <ssbr_> now it has this configuration menu and I want to cancel, but every time I hit "cancel" it just restarts the menu
[23:44] <ikonia> Holehearted: why do you want to change them
[23:44] <ssbr_> ^C, ^Z had no effect
[23:44] <Octane> Pidgin or Empathy?
[23:44] <ssbr_> considering just killing apt-get, not sure if this will destroy things
[23:45] <passeride> does pidgin support the Gnome 3 notify-chat-function?
[23:45] <just4fun> i've upgraded to 10.04.03 LTS but i've lost the application bar and others like web forecasts, etc i want to restore them is it possible?
[23:45] <xangua> passeride: sudo apt-get install pidgin-libnotify
[23:45] <xangua> and enable the plugin on pidgin plugin preferences
[23:45] <Octane> passeride i guess thats your answer
[23:45] <passeride> ty | xangua
[23:45] <Octane> holy shit i missed running linux
[23:45] <xangua> !panels | just4fun
[23:46] <Octane> i havent had linux as my main o/s in 6 years!!!!
[23:46] <xangua> !language | Octanane
[23:46] <xangua> also please keep on topic
[23:46] <zorlac> ive installed apache2 now how do i get it  to load up my website instead of the default page
[23:47] <Octane> zorlac edit httpd.conf and set your docs root folder
[23:47] <xangua> passeride: ooh by gnome3 you mean gnome-shell¿¿ no idea then
[23:47] <xangua> i don't think what i told you works
[23:47] <zorlac> ok
[23:47] <ikonia> zorlac: you put your web content in the document root folder for the default site
[23:47] <jpad> where can i find a .rar file extracter to download?
[23:47] <zorlac> where abouts is the httpd.conf
[23:47] <ikonia> !rar | jpad
[23:47] <zorlac> is it in the apache folder?
[23:47] <ikonia> zorlac: you don't need to change it
[23:47] <passeride> i belive you gave me the rite answer | xangua
[23:47] <xangua> jpad: sudo apt-get install rar unrar
[23:48] <e2b04836> zorlac: /etc/apache2
[23:48] <jpad> thank you
[23:48] <Octane> zorlac htodcs variable in httpd.conf
[23:48] <ikonia> zorlac: you know know there document root is, you where trying to copy files there later
[23:49] <Holehearted> anybody here ever made/customized a livecd?
[23:49] <ikonia> Holehearted: why don't you just ask your real question
[23:49] <Holehearted> I have twice
[23:49] <Holehearted> no answer
[23:49] <ikonia> Holehearted: I responded, - why do you want to change the uid
[23:50] <Holehearted> ahh, sorry, must responded after XChat crashed :|
[23:50] <Holehearted> ikonia, the guide says to
[23:50] <Holehearted> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomization
[23:51] <Holehearted> Ctrl+F "cuztomization limits"
[23:52] <ikonia> Holehearted: so why do you have users that are greater than 999 ?
[23:53] <Holehearted> ikonia, They were either auto-created or already there from the files I started with because they're "nobody" and "postgres"
[23:53] <pnema> newbie question, but how to add quick launch icons to my menu bar?
[23:53] <ikonia> Holehearted: those are system accounts so shouldn't be high
[23:54] <e2b04836> nobody is 65534 by default
[23:54] <passeride> do anyone know how to how to enable the answer bar in the libnotify on gnome3?
[23:54] <Holehearted> e2b04836, that's what nobody is set to
[23:54] <Holehearted> e2b04836, so leave it?
[23:54] <ikonia> you can't
[23:55] <ikonia> why is nobody such a high user
[23:55] <Holehearted> I just checked with my non-chrooted /etc/passwd and got the same exact results
[23:56] <Octane> does anyone here recommend a guide for ubuntu newbies? not so much for how to navigate *nix but more so on what to check out and install since its been so long since i installed
[23:56] <e2b04836> you shouldnt have to change the uid of nobody
[23:56] <e2b04836> whats the UID of "postgres"
[23:56] <Holehearted> 1000
[23:56] <XiaolinDraconis> i followed the tutorials but my cursor is still dmz-white when i point at the desktop. im using 11.10 gnome classic.
[23:57] <vouth> How can I change the cursor size in KDE?
[23:57] <e2b04836> yeah
[23:57] <e2b04836> well theres the problem
[23:57] <e2b04836> you'll have to change that
[23:57] <phil_> anyone here using unbuntu11.10 need some help with graphics diriver
[23:59] <phil_> how the fuck do i use a .run file?????????????????????????/
[23:59] <iToast> Hey
[23:59] <arooni-mobile> my page up/down buttons are currently not working on my keyboard.... is there a way to 1) change key shortcut for terminal app's switch tabs function (normallyu control + page up) and 2) same for chrome?
[23:59] <pangolin> !language | phil_
[23:59] <iToast> Should i install ubuntu servre 10.4 on a pentium 4.
[23:59] <iToast> ?
[23:59] <iToast> I can add up to mabey 8 hdds to the p4.
[23:59] <helena> vouth: in Systemsettings
[23:59] <iToast> A sata controller card.