=== Nex4 is now known as Exio4|Away [08:39] knome: what do you think of this replacement for the current xfwm4-icon (in settings-manager): http://imagebin.org/189667 [11:37] ochosi, i'm not sure. is the window shaded? [12:59] knome: well kinda. i wanted to focus on the decoration, i think any window content would make the icon less clear [13:09] i suppose, but what about just grey block? [13:11] anybody testing 12.04 available? [13:11] hm, i can try, but i think it might look odd [13:11] maybe [13:11] or then just remove the BG-image [13:11] just draw the window :) [13:11] (== replace BG-image with grey) [13:12] looks empty: http://imagebin.org/189701 [13:13] don't use white, use grey [13:13] also, what does that look in context? [13:13] isn't that what matters most :) [13:14] grey: http://imagebin.org/189702 [13:14] mmmh. maybe little lighter [13:14] but i think that's okayish [13:15] you could add some "text" in it like the notification icon [13:15] or textboxes [13:15] something very subtle [13:15] i can draw that too if you want [13:17] in context: http://imagebin.org/189703 [13:17] (and brighter grey) [13:17] yeah, if you could that'd be nice [13:17] i'm not sure i have a good idea of what you would wanna do [13:17] oki, just a sec, i'll fix the meeting agenda first [13:17] another option is to show more than one window [13:17] a bit like in sessions and startup [13:18] or just two windows stacked on top of each other [13:18] i think the wm-tweaks should then also be changed accordingly [13:18] i like the wand-metaphor though [13:19] mmh [13:19] i think the xfwm part in that icon looks a bit big [13:20] you mean the close,max,min buttons? [13:20] or the window-border as a whole [13:22] as whole [13:22] let me start a *cough* image editor [13:24] what's the image size again? [13:24] 48px [13:24] oki [13:24] do you want the svg? [13:24] nope [13:24] going pixel-editing [13:36] ochosi, http://temp.knome.fi/xubuntu/precise_icons/win_man.jpg [13:36] textboxes could be more sublte [13:36] *subtle [14:11] mm, doesn't look half-bad [14:12] i think subtler textboxes would be better [14:12] window-content shouldn't stand out too much [14:25] yup [14:26] http://temp.knome.fi/xubuntu/precise_icons/win_man-2.jpg [14:27] hm, i'm thinking whether an "ok" button in the bottom-right corner would look good [14:27] i mean in general it's already nice [14:27] heh [14:28] maybe "cancel" and "apply" (without the text, just empty buttons) [14:29] http://temp.knome.fi/xubuntu/precise_icons/win_man-3.jpg [14:31] is it my poor eyes or is the left one a tad smaller? :) [14:31] i think i like that [14:35] yup, they're the same size :P [14:37] k, do you wanna keep it a png or vectorize it? [14:38] might be hard to vectorize [14:38] not sure if it's worth it [14:38] mhm, we'll have to check whether svg and png work alongside in the icon-theme