[00:54] <wallyworld_> huwshimi: you 100% sure we can't use another colour besides grey for the links? since we use grey for disabled links elsewhere, users will be confused and assume these links are also disabled
[00:55] <huwshimi> wallyworld_: Where do we use grey for disabled links?
[00:55] <huwshimi> we use grey for our breadcrumb links
[00:56] <wallyworld_> huwshimi: one example, if one enters text for a comment comment or elsewhere, and the text contains "bug xxx", the "bug xxx" is linked and if it is not a valid link, is rendered grey
[00:56] <wallyworld_> s/comment comment/bug comment
[00:57] <wallyworld_> the breadcrumbs are sort of self contained, not mixed in with general content
[00:57] <wallyworld_> but if there's no good alternative.....
[00:58] <huwshimi> hmmm... I can't reproduce the bug comment links in .dev
[00:58] <wallyworld_> a very light blue perhaps? like the tags that are rendered in the bug details page?
[00:59] <wallyworld_> ah, ok. you mention light blue looks like disabled
[00:59] <wallyworld_> huwshimi: i'll find an example on qas
[00:59] <huwshimi> wallyworld_: cheers :)
[01:00] <wallyworld_> it is a light shade of grey btw
[01:02] <wallyworld_> huwshimi: https://bugs.qastaging.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/aptdaemon/+bug/696954
[01:02] <_mup_> Bug #696954: Maintainers cannot specify  who is in an access policy <disclosure> <Launchpad itself:Triaged> < https://launchpad.net/bugs/696954 >
[01:02] <wallyworld_> huwshimi: i thought i entered a valid bug for one example, but it is also invalid
[01:02] <wallyworld_> huwshimi: the valid links are the same shade of blue as the other links
[01:03] <wallyworld_> huwshimi: brb
[01:03] <huwshimi> np
[01:05] <huwshimi> Oh I see they only become grey links after a page refresh
[01:11] <wallyworld_> huwshimi: yes, there's a background call which does the validity checking. the fact that it doesn't run when a comment is first entered is a bug
[01:11] <huwshimi> wallyworld_: Ah I see
[01:12] <wallyworld_> which i only just realised happens
[01:12]  * wallyworld_ files a bug
[01:12] <wallyworld_> huwshimi: if i recall correctly, there's a css style for disabled links which is used
[01:13] <wallyworld_> and the style specifies that shade of grey
[01:19] <huwshimi> wallyworld_: I'm inclined to land this with the links this colour and wait to see if there's feedback.
[01:20] <wallyworld_> huwshimi: ok. sorry to be a pain rtc. i wanted to be sure we did want to go with those colours given the potential for confusion
[01:21] <huwshimi> wallyworld_: No that's ok. I understand where you're coming from, but I think this might be the best option for now
[01:23] <wallyworld_> huwshimi: r=me :-)
[01:23] <huwshimi> wallyworld_: Cheers mate
[01:23] <wallyworld_> np. how was the cricket?
[01:24] <poolie> huwshimi, wallyworld_, re grey links, fwiw
[01:24] <wallyworld_> hi poolie
[01:24] <poolie> 1- other people use them and it's fine; i don't think there is a general style that they have to be blue or underlined anymore (though generally a hover of some kind is good)
[01:25] <poolie> 2- ideally i think we would be steering towards a new general style (i guess you are) rather than doing it one by one
[01:25] <huwshimi> wallyworld_: It was great fun, nice to have a second win too,
[01:26] <wallyworld_> poolie: point 2 holds a bit of sway with me. i personally would like to see a consistent colour for disabled across the board, so a user never has to guess if a link is active or not depending on the context
[01:26] <wallyworld_> which is sort of what they need to do now
[01:29] <wgrant> huwshimi: The bug listings are now arranged pretty strangely: http://people.canonical.com/~wgrant/launchpad/misarranged.png
[01:31] <huwshimi> wgrant: Yeah, there's some issues there with consistent column widths
[01:33] <wgrant> huwshimi: It also looks like the vertical text alignment in the status/importance labels is off now.
[01:33] <wgrant> I thought it used to be centered, but now the text is too high.
[01:34] <huwshimi> wgrant: Are you using Firefox?
[01:34] <wgrant> huwshimi: Yeah, this is Precise's Firefox.
[01:34] <wgrant> Some 9.0 prerelease.
[01:34] <huwshimi> wgrant: In Chromium the text is actually too close to the bottom :)
[01:34] <wgrant> Yay :)
[01:36] <micahg> 9.0 beta 6 in precise, 10.0 beta 1 will come soon
[01:36] <wgrant> huwshimi: Heh, so it is.
[01:36] <huwshimi> wgrant: I love web typography
[01:36] <cjwatson> and Tags is about a pixel lower than the bug title text in that screenshot
[01:51] <poolie> wallyworld_, i agree, a consistent style for 'disabled' would be nice
[01:51] <poolie> i think they can both be grey as long as the intensity is markedly different
[01:51] <wallyworld_> which they are
[01:51] <wallyworld_> disabled is a lighter shade
[03:14] <wallyworld_> poolie: it seems that a feature flag i'm trying to use in a test via "with FeatureFixture(xxxx)" isn't being found when I try and access it from inside a zope security adaptor. have you come across this before?
[03:15] <poolie> wallyworld_, ah, i can believe you but i don't have an easy answer sorry
[03:15] <poolie> i don't understand the zope magic enormously well
[03:15] <wallyworld_> np
[03:15] <poolie> suggest you thrash around until it works, then document that
[03:15] <poolie> :}
[03:15] <wallyworld_> yeah, i've been thrashing alright. more like drowning
[03:24] <wallyworld_> poolie: found it. i am a dickhead. cut'n'paste error. one char difference
[03:33]  * StevenK ponders quoting wallyworld_'s first two sentences out of context.
[03:33] <wallyworld_> StevenK: lol
[04:49] <wgrant> Hm
[04:49] <wgrant> I think jtv's megalint and sinzui's apocalypse have conflicted.
[04:50] <StevenK> What did sinzui apocalypse?
[04:50] <wgrant> interfaces and scripts
[04:50] <wgrant> jtv reordered lots of imports.
[04:50] <wgrant> Some of which sinzui moved.
[04:50] <wgrant> and now the test suite complains on startup.
[04:50] <wgrant> Let'
[04:50] <wgrant> s see how bad it is.
[04:51] <wgrant> May just be the one import.
[04:55] <wgrant> And fixed.
[04:56] <wgrant> Hopefully buildbot hasn't finished recently.
[05:11] <StevenK> wgrant: It still has 90 minutes.
[06:35] <huwshimi> OK, that's EOY for me. Have a good Christmas/New Years everyone.
[06:35] <StevenK> huwshimi: You too!
[07:46] <Ursinha> can anyone explain why I can see a bug has 50 activities but trying to index them fails as out of range?
[07:47] <Ursinha> In [215]: len(lp.bugs[736661].activity)
[07:47] <Ursinha> Out[215]: 50
[07:47] <Ursinha> In [216]: lp.bugs[736661].activity[0]
[07:48] <Ursinha> IndexError: list index out of range
[07:50] <wgrant> Ursinha: Interesting -- it works for me.
[07:50] <wgrant> I wonder if you have a broken cache.
[07:50] <wgrant> Which version of launchpadlib are you using?
[07:51] <Ursinha> wgrant: interesting thing is that is working for me as well -- problem was reported by someone else
[07:51] <wgrant> Hah
[07:51] <Ursinha> I wonder if he trying to do that anonymously changes that
[07:51] <Ursinha> it shouldn't, right?
[07:52] <wgrant> Ah.
[07:52] <wgrant> It should, but it often does.
[07:52] <Ursinha> hehe
[07:52] <Ursinha> why?
[07:52] <wgrant> 'tis a bug.
[07:52] <wgrant> Any authenticated user can see them.
[07:52] <wgrant> But anonymous ones cannot.
[07:52] <Ursinha> right
[07:52] <wgrant> Can you file a bug?
[07:52] <Ursinha> that's reported, I presume
[07:52] <Ursinha> ah, sure
[07:52] <Ursinha> :)
[07:52] <wgrant> Not that I know of.
[07:53] <wgrant> But we have had many similar situations.
[07:53] <Ursinha> I'll file a bug
[07:53] <Ursinha> thanks wgrant :)
[07:53] <wgrant> np
[09:14] <bigjools> morning all
[09:14] <nigelb> Morning bigjools
[09:16] <StevenK> bigjools: Did you pick up Portal? :-)
[09:18] <bigjools> StevenK: no, not sure I will
[09:18] <bigjools> hmmm only 50 attemps to ssh into my server yesterday
[09:18] <bigjools> spammers are getting around fail2ban
[09:21] <nigelb> how long is your ban time?
[09:21] <nigelb> I used to have it as 24 hours :)
[09:22] <bigjools> default, whatever it is
[10:46]  * bigjools is fixing the db-devel conflict
[10:51] <bigjools> now why does pqm say only one conflict when locally I get 132
[10:55] <wgrant> bigjools: You're probably merging devel, rather than stable?
[10:55] <wgrant> (132!?!?!(
[10:55] <wgrant> )
[11:10] <bigjools> nope
[11:10] <bigjools> can someone else try?
[11:11] <bigjools> down to 39 with --lca
[11:12] <bigjools> ok, out of date checkout it seems
[11:13] <bigjools> gah, 7 ".moved" conflicts
[11:14] <wgrant> Yeah, deleted dirs do that, because of all the pycs inside :/
[11:14] <wgrant> It'll work better if you have clean trees.
[11:14] <bigjools> no, it's an added dir
[11:14] <bigjools> I use a checkout as a sandbox
[12:06] <StevenK> wgrant: I'm so tempted to patch rf-get to run 'make clean' before pulling
[12:07] <wgrant> That would be very slow...
[12:36] <bigjools> and I will shoot you
[13:37] <rick_h__> anyone able to review https://code.launchpad.net/~rharding/launchpad/back_sort_buttons_907376/+merge/86701 for me please?
[13:37] <rick_h__> backing out fix for bug 907376 so I can refix :/
[13:37] <_mup_> Bug #907376: Order By Bar "buttons" do not appear on page load <bug-columns> <qa-bad> <regression> <Launchpad itself:Fix Committed by rharding> < https://launchpad.net/bugs/907376 >
[14:18] <gary_poster> Is anyone working on resolving db_devel?  bigjools, you happen to know?  If not I can try to do it before my next call
[14:23] <sinzui> gary_poster, I can fix the text conflict if you have not already.
[14:23] <gary_poster> sinzui, I just did a merge and was about to look at it.  If you are farther along feel free
[14:24] <sinzui> I have done nothing. I expect import conflicts between jtv and the four horseman of the apocalypse
[14:25] <gary_poster> sinzui :-) ok I'll proceed and ask if I have questions.  thank you
[14:34] <bigjools> gary_poster: I did it already
[14:34] <gary_poster> bigjools, :-P
[14:34] <gary_poster> ok that wasted time :-) thank you though
[14:34] <bigjools> gary_poster: however, PQM hated me
[14:35] <bigjools> argh
[14:35] <bigjools> gary_poster: did you submit anything yet?
[14:35] <bigjools> I messed up my commit line
[15:34] <flacoste> gary_poster, bac, gmb, danilos, benji: lp2kanban got some publicity: http://blog.leankitkanban.com/2011/12/leankit-kanban-api-wrappers/
[15:35] <benji> cool
[15:38] <danilos> yeah, cool
[16:04] <bigjools> allenap: I can has review pls? https://code.launchpad.net/~julian-edwards/launchpad/get-incomplete-ppa-copy-jobs/+merge/86726
[16:05] <allenap> bigjools: Sure.
[16:27] <bac> flacoste: yay
[17:48] <bigjools> jelmer: mind if I assign you a question about java memory limits when building recipes?
[17:48] <bigjools> actually I think the java bit is a red herring
[17:49] <jelmer> bigjools: can you perhaps link it to a bug?
[17:49] <bigjools> jelmer: sure, which one?
[17:49] <jelmer> bigjools: I suspect it's this one: bug 693524
[17:49] <_mup_> Bug #693524: Daily builds of Java packages fail: "Could not reserve enough space for object heap" <recipe> <Launchpad Auto Build System:Triaged> < https://launchpad.net/bugs/693524 >
[17:49] <bigjools> jelmer: https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad/+question/182645 is the question
[17:50] <bigjools> thanks, I'll tell him to follow the bug
[18:26]  * deryck goes offline for lunch, back soon
[19:09] <rick_h__> deryck: if you get a sec can you let me know if I'm missing a step with the rollback?
[19:10] <deryck> rick_h__, sure, something makes you think you've missed a step?  Or something not working?
[19:10] <rick_h__> deryck: well it's just not updating and I ran the  bzr lp-land --rollback=14569 this morning
[19:10] <rick_h__> so before EOD wanted to make sure I was waiting on pqm and it's not waiting on me
[19:10] <deryck> rick_h__, what's not updating?  the bug?
[19:10] <rick_h__> deryck: right http://lpqateam.canonical.com/qa-reports/deployment-stable.html and the bug
[19:11] <rick_h__> https://dev.launchpad.net/QA/QAForContinuousRollouts says that the bug should be updated and all qa-* tags removed
[19:11] <deryck> rick_h__, has it finished playing in buildnot yet?
[19:11] <rick_h__> deryck: ah, problably not. I thought I had skipped that step
[19:11] <rick_h__> deryck: but right, I only skipped my ec2 tests, not buildbot
[19:12] <deryck> rick_h__, no, you may have skipped ec2, but you still have to pass buildnot to get merged from devel to stable....
[19:12] <deryck> rick_h__, once it merges to stable the bug will be updated.
[19:12] <rick_h__> deryck: ok, I'll hold tight then. Thanks.
[19:12] <rick_h__> deryck: diff topic, is there a good bit of JS code dealing with ajax that's a good template for testing/doing ajax stuff in our "way"?
[19:13] <deryck> rick_h__, well any of the order by bar or visible info widget stuff we just worked on is pretty typical.
[19:14] <rick_h__> deryck: doh true. Was looking through app/javascript
[19:16] <deryck> rick_h__, heh, yeah, np.