[00:27] <alex_mayorga> Hi! Someone wants me to get Valgrind for bug 907012 Can someone hand hold me through it?
[00:27] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 907012 in indicator-datetime (Ubuntu) "indicator-datetime uses 80% of RAM or 3.1g (affects: 1) (heat: 8)" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/907012
[00:32] <alex_mayorga> problem is this is a service not an actual program, so I don't know where to start
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[07:40] <lalatenduM> here is a bug on guake :https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/guake/+bug/75013
[07:40] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 75013 in pdns (Ubuntu) "syslog error - unable to load libgmysqlbackend.so" [Undecided,Invalid]
[07:40] <lalatenduM> it is in confirmed
[07:41] <lalatenduM> though I am in bugsquad team I am not bale to change it to triaged , not sure why? need help
[07:42] <micahg> lalatenduM: only Ubuntu bug control can set the triaged state
[07:42] <micahg> and that doesn't look like the right bug number
[07:43] <lalatenduM> micahg, the bug number is Bug #750139
[07:43] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 750139 in guake (Ubuntu) "Guake size is messed up (affects: 5) (heat: 12)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/750139
[07:43] <lalatenduM> ubot4, yes that is the bug I am taking about
[07:43] <lalatenduM> Actaully I am trying to fix it
[07:44] <micahg> lalatenduM: ah,feel free to set to in progress and assign to yourself if you're working on it, just note that in the bug
[07:45] <lalatenduM> micahg, yup i was going to do that now, will do it
[07:46] <lalatenduM> micahg, DONE
[07:46] <lalatenduM> sorry done*
[07:46] <lalatenduM> :P
[07:47] <micahg> lalatenduM: do you have an importance you think it should have?
[07:47] <lalatenduM> micahg, let me think..
[07:48] <lalatenduM> micahg, it should be low , because it doesn't effect the function of guake
[07:49] <micahg> lalatenduM: ok, thanks, setting it for you
[07:49] <lalatenduM> thanks micahg :)
[07:49] <micahg> lalatenduM: thank you for your work
[07:50] <lalatenduM> thank you too sir!
[07:50] <micahg> you're welcome
[12:23] <wagafo> I think bug 907688  can be marked as triaged.
[12:23] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 907688 in update-motd (Ubuntu) "man for update-motd belongs incorrect category (affects: 1) (heat: 8)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/907688
[16:56] <roadmr> Hello all! due to a recent change, 32-bit Ubuntu defaults to using a PAE kernel, but by default PAE is not enabled in Virtualbox, so anyone trying to run Ubuntu on VBox won't be able to do so unless they explicitly enable PAE. Should this be a bug?
[16:57] <brendand> roadmr - a bug in what :)
[16:58] <micahg> roadmr: well, that's a hard one, in most cases, people don't need PAE for virtual machines as they're small
[16:58] <micahg> roadmr: seemingly something like testdrive should be fixed though :)
[16:58] <roadmr> micahg: I agree. So it's not a virtualbox bug (unless the fix were to enable PAE by default)
[16:58] <roadmr> nor is it a bug in the linux kernel
[16:59] <roadmr> or in ubuntu (not a bug, it's a decision)
[16:59] <roadmr> but I wonder where this should be noted so that people aren't confused when their VMs fail to boot :)
[17:00] <micahg> right, it's a settings issue, so there should be a note on pages where we ask people to test ISOs with reference to 12.04 and beyond, and stuff like testdrive where we control the settings, it should be enabled for 12.04 and beyond ISO testing
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[17:00] <brendand> i wonder why VirtualBox doesn't have PAE on my default? won't a non-PAE image work with PAE on?
[17:00] <roadmr> brendand: yes it'd work
[17:00] <tray76> Let's see.. got vbox open right now.
[17:00] <micahg> brendand: possible performance impact
[17:00] <tray76> yup.
[17:01] <roadmr> micahg: well I agree that documenting this is a valid solution. Any idea on where this should be done?
[17:01] <brendand> micahg - i thought that was being considered in the decision making (that led to it being enabled by default)
[17:01] <micahg> roadmr: not offhand
[17:01] <brendand> although VMs to run on low memory, which is where i think the problems start to be seen
[17:01] <micahg> brendand: right, for our testing purposes, but virtualbox serves a lot of other OSs
[17:02] <brendand> s/to/tend to/
[17:02] <roadmr> micahg: OK, no problem, I'll figure out a good forum to raise this issue
[17:02] <brendand> micahg - yeah. but it can be set to on at least when the OS type is given as Ubuntu?
[17:02] <micahg> roadmr: ISO tracker probably wouldn't be a bad place if it has help links somewhere
[17:02] <roadmr> micahg: thanks! Anyway I think all this discussion is enough for me to call the bug invalid, as PAE is now a requirement for Ubuntu anyway
[17:02] <roadmr> micahg: actually, that's probably a good place - the official requirements page
[17:03] <micahg> brendand: true, that logic could be upstreamed, idr if you select an OS version with the OS type though as it's only 12.04 and beyond
[17:04] <brendand> micahg - i don't think so :(
[17:04] <roadmr> nah, it's just Ubuntu or Ubuntu 64-bit
[17:05] <micahg> well, in 2013 when desktop lucid is EOL, that would make sense to upstream PAE by default :)