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mhall119pleia2: talk to cjohnston about that, but we're going to try and roll all of uds.u.c into the same Django instance as summit.u.c04:19
jcastromhall119: you have uds.u.c wordpress access too05:20
jcastroI checked it today05:20
czajkowskialoha07:48
dholbachgood morning08:19
* czajkowski hugs dholbach 08:54
nigelbHey dholbach, jono :)08:55
dholbachhey nigelb, hey jono08:56
* dholbach hugs czajkowski08:56
jonohey nigelb, dholbach08:59
nigelbIs anyone else seeing slowness in logging into the wiki?09:00
mainerrorMorning.11:22
mainerrorI was so excited about the next UDS location yesterday and when I found out where it was going to be I was sad. :(11:23
popeywhy?11:24
mainerrorWell I was hoping that it is going to be somewhere in Europe again.11:25
mainerrorI'm not sure if I'll be able to afford the flight to Oakland.11:25
JanCmainerror: too bad, but it's probably going to be in Europe again in the fall11:26
mainerrorWe'll see. With some luck I can find a way to get there.11:29
mainerrorSneak on board of a plane somehow. :P11:31
popeyJanC: dont think so11:32
JanCpopey: not?11:32
popeyprobably back in florida11:32
mainerror:(11:36
mainerrorActually more like this :*(11:36
nigelbpopey: No more europe? :(11:47
popeydunno11:50
popeyeurope is expensive11:50
nigelbEurope is easier for a visa.11:50
popeybummer11:50
AlanBelltaipei maybe11:50
JanCEurope is a lot less expensive for many of us  ;)11:50
popeyyay, JanC is going to pay for the venue11:51
JanCvenues are much cheaper in the US?11:51
popeymuch11:51
popeylike half the price11:51
JanCunless you can find something like a university to provide the location, I suppose...  (but that would be difficult at the times of the year UDS is held)11:54
nigelbpopey: wow. Did not know that.11:56
JanCmaybe we can make it a camping-UDS instead (somewhat like CCCamp ;) )11:56
nigelbI guess with UDS becoming overall more expensive, this was to be seen.11:57
popeywe are never going to please everyone11:57
AlanBellthere are camping based events, UDS isn't really one of them :)11:57
AlanBellbut a europe based camping ubucon sounds an interesting idea, get on it JanC  :)11:58
nigelbI guess, if I decide to go, I'll have to bite it and apply for visa again.11:58
nigelbs/go/apply for sponsorship to go/11:58
jussiI still wish they would put UDS here: http://www.scandichotels.com/Hotels/Countries/Finland/Helsinki/Hotels/Scandic-Grand-Marina/12:08
jussithen I could go without sponsorship :D12:08
nigelbyeah, I kinda feel jealous about cjohnston and mhall119 :)12:08
JanCjussi: isn't Scandinavia even more expensive than the rest of Europe?  ;)12:09
jussiand given there are direct flights to Helsinki from most parts of the world, including the US and asia...12:09
mainerrorLondon would be great but I guess London is also quite expensive.12:10
mainerrorI have no idea though.12:10
JanCbut prices in Southern Europe shouldn't be that high?12:10
nigelbI wish we'd do something like Singapore or Hong Kong.12:10
jussiJanC: southern and eastern europe....12:10
jussihence prague, budapest, sevilla, barcelona etc12:10
mainerrorBucharest. I have some good connections over there.12:11
jussiI think one of the issues is the "day money"12:11
JanCthey should think about Greece or Portugal maybe12:11
jussiJanC: hehe12:11
duanedesigno/ morning friends12:12
popeyits not just the cost12:12
popeythere's the service too12:12
JanCI'm not joking, the fall edition would be just after the summer season, so hotels will be empty by then...12:12
JanCespecially in greece12:12
mainerrorpopey: What exactly do you mean?12:12
popeyWhat do you think I mean when I say 'service' ☺12:13
popeythe USA has service nailed12:13
JanCin what way?12:14
popeyfriendlyness, efficiency12:14
popeyIMHO12:14
mainerrorOthers don't?12:15
popeyYup. IMO12:15
popeyI include the UK in the 'others dont' btw12:15
mainerrorWell I'm just gonna say I disagree.12:16
popeyhave you travelled much?12:17
JanCwhat I remember from NYC almost 20 years ago, my experiences were rather mixed there in that respect...  ;)12:18
popeyNYC is not a UDS venue12:18
JanCbut then again, some people say NYC is not America ;)12:18
AlanBellNYC and florida near disney are not the same at all12:18
popeyI don't want to get into a xenophobic argument about which country is best, just that in my experience it seems USA do this quite well.12:19
JanCwell, I have no experience with any UDS in the US, so I really can't compare, just wondering what makes them more friendly/efficient...  ☺12:27
popeydunno, it's a cultural thing12:37
PendulumJanC: some of it in hotels and restaurants would be attempts to keep their jobs12:48
Pendulumone of my friends was a waitress for a major US restaurant chain and 3 complaints and you were out (even if a complaint was something you had no control over12:49
PendulumIn my experience service varies widely around the US12:51
PendulumOrlando area caters to tourists so has extra good service12:52
Pendulumgenerally I've had good luck in San Francisco (not been to Oakland more than to drive through it)12:52
Pendulumin New York it's hit or miss, especially as a tourist, because plenty of places really cater to locals and don't want tourists. Places that do want tourists are often crowded which does lower levels of service.12:53
popeyI was walking through Times Square once and someone walked up to me and asked for directions ☺12:56
akgranerpopey, woo themes rock!13:46
akgranerOh the choices :-)13:47
popeyyeah :D13:51
JanCpopey: wait until you get Japanese tourists, speaking something I only recognized as something remotely resembling French after trying to understand them for more than a minute, ask you for directions in the maze that some parts of the inner city of Bruges are ;)13:52
JanC(fortunately they had a Japanese city guide with photographs & a map on which I could point where they were and where they had to end up—but I'm pretty sure they had to ask more times to get there)13:54
jcastromhall119: around?15:23
mhall119jcastro: I am15:27
jcastrook I'm going to test sponsorship15:28
jcastrohttp://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-q/sponsorship/15:29
jcastrocan you submit one too?15:29
jcastroI just submit a few tests15:29
jcastrothen delete them15:29
jcastrothen we can give bacon thumbs up15:29
mhall119apply myself, or suggest someone?15:29
jcastroooh15:29
jcastrosuggest someone15:29
jcastroI'll apply normal15:29
jcastroForbidden (403)15:30
jcastroCSRF verification failed. Request aborted.15:30
jcastroruh roh15:30
mhall119ack! 403 error15:30
mhall119django 1.315:31
jcastrois it cjohnston's fault?15:32
cjohnstonno15:33
mhall119cjohnston: let me get a fix for it, give me 10 minutes15:34
cjohnstonI won't be home for a few hours15:35
mhall119django 1.3 added the requirement to pass a CSRF token around in all forms, so we need to update our templates15:35
cjohnstonwhile your at it, code in user roles15:35
mhall119cjohnston: no15:35
jcastrohey, thanks everyone who copy edited uds.ubuntu.com with the right info15:46
jcastroHIGH FIVE15:46
jcastromhall119: any progress?16:01
jcastroI get the feeling jono wants to announce sponsorships today16:01
jonojcastro, nope16:02
jonojcastro, I am happy to wait16:02
jcastromhall119: ^16:02
jcastrojono: Don't forget that joomla intro16:20
jcastroif you can get that to me by the end of the week I can start working with the guy16:20
jonojcastro, Joomla! ?16:20
jonoyou mean Drupal16:21
jcastrobah, right16:21
jcastrosorry16:21
jcastroCMSes, I can never get them right16:21
jonono worries :-)16:21
mhall119jcastro: jono: almost done, I'm writing test cases to make sure we catch this if it's ever a problem again16:22
jcastroI love how you roll dude16:23
jonothanks mhall11916:26
jono:-)16:26
cprofitthey jono16:33
jonohey cprofitt16:33
jonohow is the cheese doing?16:33
jonoI saw the pic on planet16:33
jonolooks like a giant block of swiss cheese :-)16:34
cprofittinteresting 'device', heh?16:34
jonoheh, yup16:34
cprofittjono: have you spoken to or heard from randall recently?16:35
jcastroalso, has anyone heard from persia?16:36
cprofittI have not jcastro16:36
jonocprofitt, nope16:37
cprofittthanks jono -- we are supposed to work on community days together, but i have not heard back from him... so was just curious.16:37
cprofittyou guys all have a great holiday and new year16:38
jonocprofitt, yeah, we should talk more16:38
jonoI saw he blogged yesterday16:38
cprofittyeah -- I saw the blog post too... made me think my email mght gave gone spam filter...16:39
cprofittjono: you want to discuss community days?16:40
cprofitti gotta say one hand typing is not fun.16:40
jonocprofitt, at some point16:40
jononext year16:40
cprofittsounds good -- just let me know.16:41
mhall119cjohnston: nigelb: are one of you around to review a quick patch to the summit production branch?16:56
cprofittmhall119: when i get back to two hands i will try to work with you guys on summit again -- sorry for the delay on my end16:58
mhall119cprofitt: no worries, I just need to get a patch out today16:58
cprofittlunch time -- bbl17:09
mhall119jcastro: I've requested the the fix be deployed, once IS has that done we'll test it again17:26
jcastrorock17:26
mhall119I fixed the sponsorship, suggestion, and non-launchpad suggestion forms17:27
mhall119there may be more, I'll work on more extensive tests later17:27
jcastrooh17:51
mhall119jcastro: please try again, I was able to submit one17:51
mhall119jcastro: something's broken with sponsorship suggestions, a permission error on the server, trying to resolve it now17:55
dholbachalright my friends - I call it a day - see you all tomorrow!17:58
jcastrotrying now mhall11917:58
jcastrodholbach: cya!17:58
jcastrook it submitted17:59
mhall119jcastro: looks like launchpadlib didn't have write access to it's cache directory on the server, fixing now18:00
mhall119jcastro: ok, submitted a suggestion via launchpad name, that's working now18:01
jcastro\o/18:01
jcastromhall119: ok so the only thing needed is a deadline date put on the page with the "request sponsorship" button18:02
jcastrobut jono will tell us when that is18:02
mhall119ok18:04
mhall119jcastro: non-launchpad suggestions work too18:07
mhall119jcastro: do you want to delete these sponsorship record, or do you want me to?18:07
jcastrogo ahead18:09
jcastroI usually leave a joke Daniel record around for track leads to vote on18:09
* jcastro whistles18:09
jcastrospecial diet needs: MEAT18:09
jcastroetc.18:09
popeysomething on uds.ubuntu.com is killing my browser18:09
popeyScript: http://uds.ubuntu.com/wp-includes/js/jquery/jquery.js?ver=1.6.1:1718:10
mhall119popey: your browser can't handle jquery?18:10
popeyit was fine earlier, my browser froze up and switched to that tab randomly18:11
* popey suspects a memory leak18:11
mhall119is it the main page of uds.u.c?18:11
popeyyes18:12
mhall119if so, it's likely the jquery slide-show18:12
popeyi have had it open for 3 hours18:12
mhall119ah, that might make a difference, yeah18:12
popeyi have had lots of things open for 3 hours ☺18:12
mhall119me too, for days even, just not uds.u.c18:13
popeyheh18:13
mhall119jcastro: are we doing a call today?18:24
jcastrosure18:25
jcastroI am running way late on lunch though18:25
jcastroso I would like to go get some18:25
jcastrowhat's your timeline?18:25
mhall119I'm technically off the rest of today18:26
mhall119but I have to have a call with someone in ISD too, I'll see if he's available18:26
mhall119jcastro: okay, I'm ready whenever you are18:51
jcastroI have to step out for a minute18:51
jcastroargh18:51
jcastrowhere is my day going18:51
jcastrocan you call my phone in like 5 minutes?18:52
mhall119sure, PM me the number18:52
jcastro248-677-100618:53
jcastrothe wonders of a google voice #18:53
jcastro:)18:53
mhall119ok, 5 minutes, go!18:53
popey2818:56
popeybah!18:56
mhall119jcastro: ring ring19:03
mhall119no answer, he doesn't love me anymore :(19:04
MrChrisDruifAloha popey; it should arrive tomorrow =D19:33
bkerensaHappy Holidays All!19:37
MrChrisDruifAloha bkerensa; thanks. You too!19:37
popeyyay20:19
popeyjcastro: you use ubuntu 64-bit and google talk?20:19
jcastroyessir20:20
popeyi cant get it installed20:20
popeywants lib32v4l-020:20
jcastrowhat's the problem?20:20
jcastroprecise?20:20
popeyya20:20
jcastroyeah I think that's broken20:20
jcastrofor new installs20:20
jcastrobut not upgrades20:20
jcastroI am pretty sure the v4l thing is kernel related20:20
popeyballs20:20
popeyi think its a dependancy problem20:21
jcastrothere's a workaround iirc20:21
popeygoogle talk plugin wants a 32-bit lib20:21
popeyfor a 64-bit deb this seems silly20:21
jcastrobut I don't know who to ask20:21
jcastroI don't know who would know, but I would guess maybe slangasek?20:21
jcastrohe's multiarch hero20:21
jcastroand the head of my order, he'll know what to do </gandalf>20:22
popey20:22
popeyone year till hobbit20:22
popeysheesh20:22
jcastroit looks so great20:22
MrChrisDruifgtalk also works for me on ubuntu 64 (oneiric)20:22
jcastroI am glad they didn't show anything20:22
jcastrojust the characters20:22
jcastroI didn't want to see smaug, or the armies, or any of that20:22
jcastrojust a tease of dialog, which was enough to make me basically cry with joy.20:23
jcastroMrChrisDruif: yeah it's a Precise problem20:23
MrChrisDruifNice LOTR reference jcastro ;-)20:23
popeyhmm, wonder if my laptop works20:23
popeyalso 12.04 64-bit20:23
popeybut upgraded only today20:23
mhall119working on business card concepts, what do you guys think? http://people.ubuntu.com/~mhall119/business_card.png21:00
MrChrisDruifmhall119; what are YOUR points of worry?21:02
MrChrisDruifOr just asking for general feedback?21:02
mhall119MrChrisDruif: general feedback21:03
mhall119MrChrisDruif: my concern is that it's too busy21:03
mhall119or doesn't get the information across21:03
MrChrisDruifWhat should it reflect? What kind of info do you want to give with that business card?21:03
mhall119basically as much identity and contact information as I can, while still looking nice21:04
AlanBellyeah, too busy21:04
jcastromhall119: too busy21:04
MrChrisDruifWhat are does random numbers in the top and bottom bar?21:04
jcastromhall119: there's an ubuntu template isn't there?21:04
mhall119top is gpg fingerprint, bottom is ssh fingerprint21:04
MrChrisDruifAnd besides being (too) busy, I had to think twice on how to get information from it21:05
AlanBellah, I kind of get the point now, you are mhall119 at all of those online services21:06
MrChrisDruifAlso, remember the people your giving it to will not know about gpg or ssh (just expect them NOT to, you might be surprised by the one or two that do)21:06
MrChrisDruifAlanBell; yes, I told you I had to think twice on how to get information from it? ;-)21:07
mhall119AlanBell: yeah, and mhall119@ both gmail.com and ubuntu.com21:07
AlanBellI knew what they were, but I would have no idea what I should do with that information21:07
MrChrisDruifThat would be my second point about them21:07
jcastromhall119: just make an orange/ubuntu version of the Canonical cards21:08
jcastrohttps://plus.google.com/photos/116015965439782966698/albums/5351476513609664321/568906236409851150621:08
MrChrisDruifAlso, the size I looked at it at first was much larger then an actual business card would be. When I scaled it down to about the right size, those numbers in the top and bottom bar got hard to read ;-)21:09
cjohnstonthats nice jcastro21:09
jcastro:)21:09
MrChrisDruifIndeed jcastro ;-)21:10
AlanBelljcastro: yes, your business card does convey a professional image21:10
MrChrisDruifBtw, being mysterious might also be a good idea. I'm thinking about using a qr-code on my future business cards21:11
mhall119jcastro: I wanted to be unique21:11
cjohnstonahh21:11
jcastroyeah I want a QR code on the back21:11
jcastroI've been debating personal cards in this style: http://about.me/jorge.castro21:12
* MrChrisDruif suddenly got a pretty clear picture in his head for his business cards! =P21:12
cjohnstonthat one would be cool jcastro21:12
jcastro<--- off irc to get work done21:13
jcastromhall119: see ya on the flip side!21:13
MrChrisDruifGot a link to the right post by accident jcastro ? I'm not seeing post on that link...21:13
jcastroand if I don't see ya'll tomorrow I'll be on a boat all next week21:13
cjohnstoni do quite like mine: http://ubuntuone.com/0Z1zOUYcWVLHnKlNjzMkyc21:13
MrChrisDruifcjohnston; why skype?21:14
cjohnstonwhy not?21:14
MrChrisDruifEkiga?21:14
cjohnstonI was skyping with a bunch of people often21:14
* MrChrisDruif has been listening to RMS again ^_^21:15
cjohnstonMrChrisDruif: i dont know anyone who uses ekiga21:15
MrChrisDruifI...recently ^_^21:15
cjohnstoni got the business card shortly after the new design21:16
MrChrisDruifOOTB does Skype do a better job...but just configuring a bit and it *should* work now with Ekiga21:16
mhall119jcastro: have fun21:17
AlanBellhttps://live.gnome.org/Accessibility/Hackfests/ATK2012 would be nice for Canonical to send someone to that21:17
mhall119AlanBell: MrChrisDruif: is this better? file:///home/mhall/projects/Ubuntu/business_card.png23:36
mhall119 bah, helps if I give you a link you can access, huh?23:36
mhall119http://people.ubuntu.com/~mhall119/business_card.png23:37
MrChrisDruifYeah, I think that should help ;-)23:38
MrChrisDruifmhall119; what is that com in the top?23:39
mhall119is the mhall119.com obvious?23:39
mhall119heh, answers that question23:39
AlanBelllooks better, but it is a bit unconventional23:43
mhall119yeah, I was going for unconventional23:43

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