[04:19] pleia2: talk to cjohnston about that, but we're going to try and roll all of uds.u.c into the same Django instance as summit.u.c [05:20] mhall119: you have uds.u.c wordpress access too [05:20] I checked it today [07:48] aloha [08:19] good morning [08:54] * czajkowski hugs dholbach [08:55] Hey dholbach, jono :) [08:56] hey nigelb, hey jono [08:56] * dholbach hugs czajkowski [08:59] hey nigelb, dholbach [09:00] Is anyone else seeing slowness in logging into the wiki? [11:22] Morning. [11:23] I was so excited about the next UDS location yesterday and when I found out where it was going to be I was sad. :( [11:24] why? [11:25] Well I was hoping that it is going to be somewhere in Europe again. [11:25] I'm not sure if I'll be able to afford the flight to Oakland. [11:26] mainerror: too bad, but it's probably going to be in Europe again in the fall [11:29] We'll see. With some luck I can find a way to get there. [11:31] Sneak on board of a plane somehow. :P [11:32] JanC: dont think so [11:32] popey: not? [11:32] probably back in florida [11:36] :( [11:36] Actually more like this :*( [11:47] popey: No more europe? :( [11:50] dunno [11:50] europe is expensive [11:50] Europe is easier for a visa. [11:50] bummer [11:50] taipei maybe [11:50] Europe is a lot less expensive for many of us ;) [11:51] yay, JanC is going to pay for the venue [11:51] venues are much cheaper in the US? [11:51] much [11:51] like half the price [11:54] unless you can find something like a university to provide the location, I suppose... (but that would be difficult at the times of the year UDS is held) [11:56] popey: wow. Did not know that. [11:56] maybe we can make it a camping-UDS instead (somewhat like CCCamp ;) ) [11:57] I guess with UDS becoming overall more expensive, this was to be seen. [11:57] we are never going to please everyone [11:57] there are camping based events, UDS isn't really one of them :) [11:58] but a europe based camping ubucon sounds an interesting idea, get on it JanC :) [11:58] I guess, if I decide to go, I'll have to bite it and apply for visa again. [11:58] s/go/apply for sponsorship to go/ [12:08] I still wish they would put UDS here: http://www.scandichotels.com/Hotels/Countries/Finland/Helsinki/Hotels/Scandic-Grand-Marina/ [12:08] then I could go without sponsorship :D [12:08] yeah, I kinda feel jealous about cjohnston and mhall119 :) [12:09] jussi: isn't Scandinavia even more expensive than the rest of Europe? ;) [12:09] and given there are direct flights to Helsinki from most parts of the world, including the US and asia... [12:10] London would be great but I guess London is also quite expensive. [12:10] I have no idea though. [12:10] but prices in Southern Europe shouldn't be that high? [12:10] I wish we'd do something like Singapore or Hong Kong. [12:10] JanC: southern and eastern europe.... [12:10] hence prague, budapest, sevilla, barcelona etc [12:11] Bucharest. I have some good connections over there. [12:11] I think one of the issues is the "day money" [12:11] they should think about Greece or Portugal maybe [12:11] JanC: hehe [12:12] o/ morning friends [12:12] its not just the cost [12:12] there's the service too [12:12] I'm not joking, the fall edition would be just after the summer season, so hotels will be empty by then... [12:12] especially in greece [12:12] popey: What exactly do you mean? [12:13] What do you think I mean when I say 'service' ☺ [12:13] the USA has service nailed [12:14] in what way? [12:14] friendlyness, efficiency [12:14] IMHO [12:15] Others don't? [12:15] Yup. IMO [12:15] I include the UK in the 'others dont' btw [12:16] Well I'm just gonna say I disagree. [12:17] have you travelled much? [12:18] what I remember from NYC almost 20 years ago, my experiences were rather mixed there in that respect... ;) [12:18] NYC is not a UDS venue [12:18] but then again, some people say NYC is not America ;) [12:18] NYC and florida near disney are not the same at all [12:19] I don't want to get into a xenophobic argument about which country is best, just that in my experience it seems USA do this quite well. [12:27] well, I have no experience with any UDS in the US, so I really can't compare, just wondering what makes them more friendly/efficient... ☺ [12:37] dunno, it's a cultural thing [12:48] JanC: some of it in hotels and restaurants would be attempts to keep their jobs [12:49] one of my friends was a waitress for a major US restaurant chain and 3 complaints and you were out (even if a complaint was something you had no control over [12:51] In my experience service varies widely around the US [12:52] Orlando area caters to tourists so has extra good service [12:52] generally I've had good luck in San Francisco (not been to Oakland more than to drive through it) [12:53] in New York it's hit or miss, especially as a tourist, because plenty of places really cater to locals and don't want tourists. Places that do want tourists are often crowded which does lower levels of service. [12:56] I was walking through Times Square once and someone walked up to me and asked for directions ☺ [13:46] popey, woo themes rock! [13:47] Oh the choices :-) [13:51] yeah :D [13:52] popey: wait until you get Japanese tourists, speaking something I only recognized as something remotely resembling French after trying to understand them for more than a minute, ask you for directions in the maze that some parts of the inner city of Bruges are ;) [13:54] (fortunately they had a Japanese city guide with photographs & a map on which I could point where they were and where they had to end up—but I'm pretty sure they had to ask more times to get there) [15:23] mhall119: around? [15:27] jcastro: I am [15:28] ok I'm going to test sponsorship [15:29] http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-q/sponsorship/ [15:29] can you submit one too? [15:29] I just submit a few tests [15:29] then delete them [15:29] then we can give bacon thumbs up [15:29] apply myself, or suggest someone? [15:29] ooh [15:29] suggest someone [15:29] I'll apply normal [15:30] Forbidden (403) [15:30] CSRF verification failed. Request aborted. [15:30] ruh roh [15:30] ack! 403 error [15:31] django 1.3 [15:32] is it cjohnston's fault? [15:33] no [15:34] cjohnston: let me get a fix for it, give me 10 minutes [15:35] I won't be home for a few hours [15:35] django 1.3 added the requirement to pass a CSRF token around in all forms, so we need to update our templates [15:35] while your at it, code in user roles [15:35] cjohnston: no [15:46] hey, thanks everyone who copy edited uds.ubuntu.com with the right info [15:46] HIGH FIVE [16:01] mhall119: any progress? [16:01] I get the feeling jono wants to announce sponsorships today [16:02] jcastro, nope [16:02] jcastro, I am happy to wait [16:02] mhall119: ^ [16:20] jono: Don't forget that joomla intro [16:20] if you can get that to me by the end of the week I can start working with the guy [16:20] jcastro, Joomla! ? [16:21] you mean Drupal [16:21] bah, right [16:21] sorry [16:21] CMSes, I can never get them right [16:21] no worries :-) [16:22] jcastro: jono: almost done, I'm writing test cases to make sure we catch this if it's ever a problem again [16:23] I love how you roll dude [16:26] thanks mhall119 [16:26] :-) [16:33] hey jono [16:33] hey cprofitt [16:33] how is the cheese doing? [16:33] I saw the pic on planet [16:34] looks like a giant block of swiss cheese :-) [16:34] interesting 'device', heh? [16:34] heh, yup [16:35] jono: have you spoken to or heard from randall recently? [16:36] also, has anyone heard from persia? [16:36] I have not jcastro [16:37] cprofitt, nope [16:37] thanks jono -- we are supposed to work on community days together, but i have not heard back from him... so was just curious. [16:38] you guys all have a great holiday and new year [16:38] cprofitt, yeah, we should talk more [16:38] I saw he blogged yesterday [16:39] yeah -- I saw the blog post too... made me think my email mght gave gone spam filter... [16:40] jono: you want to discuss community days? [16:40] i gotta say one hand typing is not fun. [16:40] cprofitt, at some point [16:40] next year [16:41] sounds good -- just let me know. [16:56] cjohnston: nigelb: are one of you around to review a quick patch to the summit production branch? [16:58] mhall119: when i get back to two hands i will try to work with you guys on summit again -- sorry for the delay on my end [16:58] cprofitt: no worries, I just need to get a patch out today [17:09] lunch time -- bbl [17:26] jcastro: I've requested the the fix be deployed, once IS has that done we'll test it again [17:26] rock [17:27] I fixed the sponsorship, suggestion, and non-launchpad suggestion forms [17:27] there may be more, I'll work on more extensive tests later [17:51] oh [17:51] jcastro: please try again, I was able to submit one [17:55] jcastro: something's broken with sponsorship suggestions, a permission error on the server, trying to resolve it now [17:58] alright my friends - I call it a day - see you all tomorrow! [17:58] trying now mhall119 [17:58] dholbach: cya! [17:59] ok it submitted [18:00] jcastro: looks like launchpadlib didn't have write access to it's cache directory on the server, fixing now [18:01] jcastro: ok, submitted a suggestion via launchpad name, that's working now [18:01] \o/ [18:02] mhall119: ok so the only thing needed is a deadline date put on the page with the "request sponsorship" button [18:02] but jono will tell us when that is [18:04] ok [18:07] jcastro: non-launchpad suggestions work too [18:07] jcastro: do you want to delete these sponsorship record, or do you want me to? [18:09] go ahead [18:09] I usually leave a joke Daniel record around for track leads to vote on [18:09] * jcastro whistles [18:09] special diet needs: MEAT [18:09] etc. [18:09] something on uds.ubuntu.com is killing my browser [18:10] Script: http://uds.ubuntu.com/wp-includes/js/jquery/jquery.js?ver=1.6.1:17 [18:10] popey: your browser can't handle jquery? [18:11] it was fine earlier, my browser froze up and switched to that tab randomly [18:11] * popey suspects a memory leak [18:11] is it the main page of uds.u.c? [18:12] yes [18:12] if so, it's likely the jquery slide-show [18:12] i have had it open for 3 hours [18:12] ah, that might make a difference, yeah [18:12] i have had lots of things open for 3 hours ☺ [18:13] me too, for days even, just not uds.u.c [18:13] heh [18:24] jcastro: are we doing a call today? [18:25] sure [18:25] I am running way late on lunch though [18:25] so I would like to go get some [18:25] what's your timeline? [18:26] I'm technically off the rest of today [18:26] but I have to have a call with someone in ISD too, I'll see if he's available [18:51] jcastro: okay, I'm ready whenever you are [18:51] I have to step out for a minute [18:51] argh [18:51] where is my day going [18:52] can you call my phone in like 5 minutes? [18:52] sure, PM me the number [18:53] 248-677-1006 [18:53] the wonders of a google voice # [18:53] :) [18:53] ok, 5 minutes, go! [18:56] 28 [18:56] bah! [19:03] jcastro: ring ring [19:04] no answer, he doesn't love me anymore :( [19:33] Aloha popey; it should arrive tomorrow =D [19:37] Happy Holidays All! [19:37] Aloha bkerensa; thanks. You too! [20:19] yay [20:19] jcastro: you use ubuntu 64-bit and google talk? [20:20] yessir [20:20] i cant get it installed [20:20] wants lib32v4l-0 [20:20] what's the problem? [20:20] precise? [20:20] ya [20:20] yeah I think that's broken [20:20] for new installs [20:20] but not upgrades [20:20] I am pretty sure the v4l thing is kernel related [20:20] balls [20:21] i think its a dependancy problem [20:21] there's a workaround iirc [20:21] google talk plugin wants a 32-bit lib [20:21] for a 64-bit deb this seems silly [20:21] but I don't know who to ask [20:21] I don't know who would know, but I would guess maybe slangasek? [20:21] he's multiarch hero [20:22] and the head of my order, he'll know what to do [20:22] ☺ [20:22] one year till hobbit [20:22] sheesh [20:22] it looks so great [20:22] gtalk also works for me on ubuntu 64 (oneiric) [20:22] I am glad they didn't show anything [20:22] just the characters [20:22] I didn't want to see smaug, or the armies, or any of that [20:23] just a tease of dialog, which was enough to make me basically cry with joy. [20:23] MrChrisDruif: yeah it's a Precise problem [20:23] Nice LOTR reference jcastro ;-) [20:23] hmm, wonder if my laptop works [20:23] also 12.04 64-bit [20:23] but upgraded only today [21:00] working on business card concepts, what do you guys think? http://people.ubuntu.com/~mhall119/business_card.png [21:02] mhall119; what are YOUR points of worry? [21:02] Or just asking for general feedback? [21:03] MrChrisDruif: general feedback [21:03] MrChrisDruif: my concern is that it's too busy [21:03] or doesn't get the information across [21:03] What should it reflect? What kind of info do you want to give with that business card? [21:04] basically as much identity and contact information as I can, while still looking nice [21:04] yeah, too busy [21:04] mhall119: too busy [21:04] What are does random numbers in the top and bottom bar? [21:04] mhall119: there's an ubuntu template isn't there? [21:04] top is gpg fingerprint, bottom is ssh fingerprint [21:05] And besides being (too) busy, I had to think twice on how to get information from it [21:06] ah, I kind of get the point now, you are mhall119 at all of those online services [21:06] Also, remember the people your giving it to will not know about gpg or ssh (just expect them NOT to, you might be surprised by the one or two that do) [21:07] AlanBell; yes, I told you I had to think twice on how to get information from it? ;-) [21:07] AlanBell: yeah, and mhall119@ both gmail.com and ubuntu.com [21:07] I knew what they were, but I would have no idea what I should do with that information [21:07] That would be my second point about them [21:08] mhall119: just make an orange/ubuntu version of the Canonical cards [21:08] https://plus.google.com/photos/116015965439782966698/albums/5351476513609664321/5689062364098511506 [21:09] Also, the size I looked at it at first was much larger then an actual business card would be. When I scaled it down to about the right size, those numbers in the top and bottom bar got hard to read ;-) [21:09] thats nice jcastro [21:09] :) [21:10] Indeed jcastro ;-) [21:10] jcastro: yes, your business card does convey a professional image [21:11] Btw, being mysterious might also be a good idea. I'm thinking about using a qr-code on my future business cards [21:11] jcastro: I wanted to be unique [21:11] ahh [21:11] yeah I want a QR code on the back [21:12] I've been debating personal cards in this style: http://about.me/jorge.castro [21:12] * MrChrisDruif suddenly got a pretty clear picture in his head for his business cards! =P [21:12] that one would be cool jcastro [21:13] <--- off irc to get work done [21:13] mhall119: see ya on the flip side! [21:13] Got a link to the right post by accident jcastro ? I'm not seeing post on that link... [21:13] and if I don't see ya'll tomorrow I'll be on a boat all next week [21:13] i do quite like mine: http://ubuntuone.com/0Z1zOUYcWVLHnKlNjzMkyc [21:14] cjohnston; why skype? [21:14] why not? [21:14] Ekiga? [21:14] I was skyping with a bunch of people often [21:15] * MrChrisDruif has been listening to RMS again ^_^ [21:15] MrChrisDruif: i dont know anyone who uses ekiga [21:15] I...recently ^_^ [21:16] i got the business card shortly after the new design [21:16] OOTB does Skype do a better job...but just configuring a bit and it *should* work now with Ekiga [21:17] jcastro: have fun [21:17] https://live.gnome.org/Accessibility/Hackfests/ATK2012 would be nice for Canonical to send someone to that [23:36] AlanBell: MrChrisDruif: is this better? file:///home/mhall/projects/Ubuntu/business_card.png [23:36] bah, helps if I give you a link you can access, huh? [23:37] http://people.ubuntu.com/~mhall119/business_card.png [23:38] Yeah, I think that should help ;-) [23:39] mhall119; what is that com in the top? [23:39] is the mhall119.com obvious? [23:39] heh, answers that question [23:43] looks better, but it is a bit unconventional [23:43] yeah, I was going for unconventional