| greg-g | brousch: so, what was broken for you? | 00:02 |
|---|---|---|
| greg-g | when I resume form suspend I have to ctrl+alt+F1 then c+a+F7 to get a non-black screen | 00:02 |
| brousch | in xubuntu or in ubuntu one music? | 00:02 |
| greg-g | I guess xubuntu (figured you wree refering to Ubuntu) | 00:05 |
| snap-l | greg-g: Jesus, how do you keep up with the cc mailing lists? | 00:05 |
| snap-l | high traffic, high strawman | 00:05 |
| brousch | it locks up on suspend | 00:05 |
| brousch | so i have to hibernate, which takes like 5 minutes to reccover from | 00:06 |
| greg-g | brousch: ah | 00:07 |
| greg-g | snap-l: well, right now, I'm terribly behind | 00:07 |
| greg-g | ML is doing a great job, from the little I read | 00:07 |
| brousch | also the volume indddicators are worthless. they always show it at 0 | 00:07 |
| snap-l | Yeah, he is, but man... | 00:07 |
| greg-g | yeah, I know, the craziness come out of the woodwork during this process | 00:07 |
| greg-g | s/craziness/crazies/ | 00:08 |
| snap-l | Have tocommend you folks on handling the hypotheticals | 00:08 |
| snap-l | "What if I package my music inside the anus of a panda bear, but the panda bear is really, really crotchety" | 00:08 |
| snap-l | "is that the same as distribution if I send the panda bear to my brother's place, and upon arrival, it plays Brad Sucks?" | 00:09 |
| snap-l | "Thereby irritating the panda, and causing it to maul my brother" | 00:09 |
| snap-l | "I mean, it says SA, but it's up a panda ass" | 00:09 |
| snap-l | Also, I'm starting to think the CC handles two parts, not one | 00:10 |
| snap-l | distribution and remixing | 00:10 |
| snap-l | and both sides love to talk past the other side. | 00:11 |
| snap-l | sorry, I know this isn't the place to bitch about it, but just wondered about your thoughts. :) | 00:11 |
| greg-g | snap-l: sorry, baby duty | 00:22 |
| snap-l | Yeah, no worries. :) | 00:22 |
| greg-g | and yes, I agree re distro vs remix sub communities | 00:22 |
| rick_h__ | Blazeix: _stink_ snap-l https://github.com/rspivak/httpcode kind of cool | 00:27 |
| snap-l | That's pretty cool | 00:27 |
| rick_h__ | yea | 00:28 |
| rick_h__ | dammit, this video is pissing me off. stuck in vesa land | 04:27 |
| rick_h__ | this is why I get intel, so I don't have to worry about this crap | 04:27 |
| Wolfger | Morning. | 12:36 |
| * Wolfger wonders why snap-l has a panda-ass mp3 player... | 12:36 | |
| brousch | amihere? | 13:02 |
| rick_h__ | yes | 13:07 |
| rick_h__ | maybe | 13:07 |
| brousch | thanks | 13:07 |
| brousch | sometimes i'm not sure with pidgin when it comes out of suspend | 13:07 |
| brousch | http://www.sitepoint.com/sale/?SNEAK_PEEK&utm_source=email&utm_medium=email&utm_term=day22&utm_campaign=xmas-sale-2011 | 13:08 |
| brousch | pdf+epub+mobi | 13:14 |
| * Wolfger looks around... "No, brousch, you're not here." | 13:20 | |
| Wolfger | That would have been creepy if I looked around and he was standing there behind me. | 13:20 |
| snap-l | rick_h__: Did you see today's Woot? | 13:23 |
| rick_h_droid | yes... | 13:23 |
| jrwren | i wonder what ubuntu's cash situation is. could they afford to buy the IP from nv/ati and hire devs to write good drivers? | 13:23 |
| brousch | seems expensive. i can get a nook color for that price | 13:24 |
| snap-l | brousch: Yeah, but you get the largest screen of all of them | 13:24 |
| rick_h__ | eink > * | 13:24 |
| brousch | black and white | 13:24 |
| brousch | i need color damnit | 13:24 |
| snap-l | brousch: Right, so no Angry Birds for you. | 13:25 |
| rick_h__ | i think we've hashed this over before | 13:25 |
| jrwren | why do you need color in a book reader? | 13:25 |
| rick_h__ | sorry, saw the nook tablet last night and those jaggy's would kill me in reading | 13:25 |
| brousch | magazines. kids books. | 13:25 |
| snap-l | rick_h__: They're not that bad | 13:25 |
| jrwren | true. distro is beautiful in color, so is flipbook. | 13:25 |
| jrwren | but if you are reading like an adult... eink is excellent replacement for paperbacks | 13:26 |
| rick_h__ | snap-l: yea, maybe over time I'd get used to it, but just in skimming there last night it was distracting | 13:26 |
| jrwren | i had a similar reaction to a non antialiased line recently. | 13:27 |
| jrwren | i thought, "why the fuck can I see the pixels jagged?" | 13:27 |
| snap-l | The only time I really notice it is in italicized text. | 13:29 |
| brousch | also having the kindle reader+nook reader+fb reader + the whole google and amazon android markets is just nice | 13:29 |
| rick_h__ | snap-l: it's done... | 13:32 |
| snap-l | rick_h__: The deed? | 13:32 |
| rick_h__ | yea | 13:32 |
| snap-l | Uh oh | 13:32 |
| snap-l | Erica know? :) | 13:32 |
| rick_h__ | not yet | 13:32 |
| snap-l | We have a couch and wifi if you need it. :) | 13:32 |
| rick_h__ | lol | 13:32 |
| rick_h__ | well hopefully she'll use it as well so it's part experiment for her demands | 13:33 |
| rick_h__ | but we'll see | 13:33 |
| rick_h__ | it's the lowest price I've seen for one even used so wtf | 13:33 |
| snap-l | Blame me as an accomplice. :) | 13:33 |
| brousch | like living before lightbulbs | 13:33 |
| snap-l | rick_h__: You know what this means? | 13:34 |
| rick_h__ | snap-l: yes...a new one will be out Jan 5th | 13:35 |
| snap-l | Amazon will blow out of their refurbs at $199, and then do a complete refresh on the line and make it $250. | 13:35 |
| snap-l | It'll be the Kindle Touch DX | 13:35 |
| brousch | kindle DY announced for April 1. color e-ink for $249 | 13:35 |
| snap-l | brousch: Mean | 13:36 |
| snap-l | Somehow I don't think the eInk will get color in that form-factor | 13:36 |
| snap-l | because it'll make a $500 e-ink device. | 13:36 |
| jjesse | brousch, sad news last year for the train at breton village mall: http://www.mlive.com/business/west-michigan/index.ssf/2011/12/man_behind_breton_village_chri.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+grpress+%28The+Grand+Rapids+Press+Latest+News+%7C+MLive.com%29&utm_content=Google+Reader | 13:38 |
| Wolfger | color would be nice for magazine subscriptions, but I can't think what other purpose color serves in e-book readers. I'm certainly not willing to pay a $100 (or more) premium for color. | 13:39 |
| snap-l | jjesse: Aw, that's sad, but very cool | 13:39 |
| jjesse | yeah its an awesome train setup | 13:39 |
| snap-l | I hope someone takes his enthusiasm | 13:39 |
| snap-l | DeVries said he plans to sell his pieces at auction or on eBay. | 13:40 |
| snap-l | Oh, that's a bummer. | 13:40 |
| jjesse | did i post pictures to google+? | 13:40 |
| jjesse | i know i did to facebook | 13:41 |
| snap-l | I didn't. | 13:43 |
| brousch | jjesse: at least we got to meet him. i made sure george thanked him for doing it | 13:48 |
| jjesse | we wrote a note in the book each year thanking him | 13:48 |
| jjesse | would be nice if someone bought the entire set and set things up | 13:48 |
| jjesse | but i bets its a lot of work | 13:48 |
| brousch | just moving it in and out is huge | 13:53 |
| brousch | imagine the space he has at home to store it | 13:57 |
| snap-l | That's why God invented Garages. | 14:20 |
| brousch | this would fill a 3 stall garage | 14:20 |
| snap-l | Is it sad that the most useful plugins I have for Firefox / Chrome are reloading plugins? | 14:23 |
| brousch | not bookie? | 14:23 |
| snap-l | Should have clarified: for work | 14:24 |
| brousch | my thumbnail database for digikam is 800MB | 14:25 |
| brousch | this does not make dropbox happy | 14:25 |
| Wolfger | lol | 14:27 |
| snap-l | 800mb of small files? | 14:27 |
| brousch | sqlite | 14:27 |
| Wolfger | what... dropbox and not Ubuntu One? | 14:27 |
| brousch | i suspect ubuntuone would choke and die on something like that | 14:28 |
| brousch | i moved it out of a synced folder. that should be better | 14:30 |
| brousch | it's cool that digikam gives me that level of control | 14:31 |
| brousch | it looks like it can also use a mysql DB | 14:31 |
| snap-l | so does a little thing called "UNIX" | 14:31 |
| snap-l | they're called "links" | 14:32 |
| Wolfger | snap-l: how does a link allow you to move something out of a folder? | 14:35 |
| snap-l | move something out of the folder | 14:35 |
| snap-l | do ln -s new_location old_location | 14:36 |
| Wolfger | but wouldn't the sync also follow that link? | 14:36 |
| brousch | i don't think so with dropbox | 14:37 |
| Wolfger | Why have I never heard of this before? http://freedesktop.org/software/pulseaudio/pavucontrol/ | 15:36 |
| Wolfger | (and why do the standard sound controls in Ubuntu suck so badly?) | 15:37 |
| snap-l | Wolfger: Heh | 15:37 |
| brousch | ahahah, i like that someone suggested Python to jrwren after his Ruby complaint, and it wasn't even one of us | 15:46 |
| rick_h__ | lol | 15:47 |
| brousch | heyhey! i have an ubuntuone indicator in my system tray again. life is good! https://launchpad.net/one-indicator | 16:04 |
| brousch | i can right-click it and see wtf it is doing | 16:05 |
| jrwren | haha, nice. | 16:06 |
| jrwren | i didn't see that. | 16:06 |
| snap-l | rick_h__: thanks for the link to the U1DB stuff | 16:09 |
| snap-l | Looks interesting | 16:10 |
| jrwren | ok, i read twitter, and I still didn't see anyone suggest python. | 16:10 |
| snap-l | http://www.reddit.com/r/politics/comments/nmnie/godaddy_supports_sopa_im_transferring_51_domains/ | 16:14 |
| jrwren | oh, mulka | 16:15 |
| jrwren | i xfer from godaddy for lots of other reasons. | 16:16 |
| jrwren | this is just another. | 16:16 |
| brousch | jrwren: https://twitter.com/#!/JayRWren/status/149872281617838080 | 16:16 |
| snap-l | Also, Pearson Education supports sopa | 16:17 |
| rick_h__ | snap-l: see twitter RT from dmarsh if you have a second. Wonder what you and the wife used perhaps? | 16:24 |
| snap-l | JoDee's been using GNU Fortran | 16:25 |
| snap-l | _stink_: Got any insight? | 16:26 |
| brousch | Ah, a banner year. I moved all of my domains off of Register.com and GoDaddy | 16:30 |
| jrwren | yeah, maybe I'm naive, but I'd think GNU Fortran is the definitive modern compiler. | 16:30 |
| jrwren | but I always think gnu compilers are the definitive modern, and sometimes that just isn't true. | 16:30 |
| snap-l | WEll, I think the performant Fortran compilers are Intel's compilers | 16:31 |
| snap-l | but my info is about 10 years old. | 16:31 |
| jrwren | i think anyone doing fortran for perf reasons needs to take their head out of the sand | 16:32 |
| snap-l | heh | 16:33 |
| snap-l | Man, now I feel dirty reading Doug Hellmann's book. | 16:36 |
| brousch | you're not dirty for reading it, just for buying it | 16:37 |
| rick_h__ | snap-l: huh? | 16:38 |
| snap-l | Addison Wesley is part of Pearson Education, which supports SOPA. | 16:38 |
| brousch | BURN IT | 16:39 |
| snap-l | It's an eBook | 16:39 |
| jrwren | yeah, i just saw tim orielly's tweet. | 16:39 |
| rick_h__ | snap-l: ah, gotcha | 16:40 |
| snap-l | I retweeted. | 16:40 |
| jrwren | that is how I saw it. | 16:40 |
| snap-l | It was two weeks ago that he mentioned it. | 16:40 |
| brousch | rm isn't nearly as spectacular as burning, so i recommend you open it on a kindle and burn the kindle | 16:40 |
| snap-l | brousch: You're too kind. :) | 16:44 |
| Scott_firebeta | any reason GoDaddy is supporting SOPA? | 17:05 |
| snap-l | other than terminal idiocy, not sure. | 17:06 |
| Wolfger | because if your domain gets banned, you'll buy a new one | 17:09 |
| snap-l | Making room on my shelves for non-SOPA supporters. :) | 17:23 |
| snap-l | Although justifying keeping the Art of Computer Programming / Stevens books because Pearson hadn't purchased them yet. ;) | 17:25 |
| greg-g | :) | 17:30 |
| snap-l | Argh, Chris Crawford's book is on New Riders, a Pearson imprint. :( | 17:31 |
| snap-l | principles, or idolizing a game developer that I tried to go out as for Halloween. | 17:31 |
| snap-l | when I was in Fifth Grade. | 17:31 |
| greg-g | :( this is why Free Software is always seen as extreme. Sticking by your principles gets hard and looks weird | 17:32 |
| snap-l | Yeah, no kidding. | 17:34 |
| brousch | and then you look like an asshat because you make people realise the things they love are evil | 17:36 |
| snap-l | Well, Chris Crawford wins out | 17:38 |
| snap-l | though I shall read it with disdain. :) | 17:38 |
| snap-l | I'm putting "Publisher Supports SOPA" in the comments field of my listing. | 17:42 |
| snap-l | Man, I really hope O'Reilly never becomes evil. | 17:42 |
| Scott_firebeta | is Apress evil? | 17:45 |
| snap-l | Not to my knowledge. | 17:46 |
| snap-l | http://www.thedominoproject.com/2011/12/who-wants-to-break-the-internet.html | 17:48 |
| brousch | that would be more useful with links | 17:49 |
| brousch | wtf is ABC? | 17:49 |
| snap-l | Disney | 17:49 |
| Scott_firebeta | ESPN is on the list as well | 17:50 |
| Scott_firebeta | another Disney company | 17:50 |
| Scott_firebeta | NFL (I can see why they support SOPA) | 17:50 |
| brousch | now i can boycott football on principle instead of just because i find it uninteresting? | 17:53 |
| snap-l | But of course | 17:54 |
| Wolfger | I think that if you want to boycott people who support SOPA you will never see another movie again, nor watch any TV | 17:55 |
| Wolfger | listen to very little music | 17:55 |
| Wolfger | and reduce your availability of reading material | 17:55 |
| snap-l | I'm doing it with books | 17:55 |
| snap-l | unfotunately, if I did it with DVD / CDs, I'd have to sell everything. :) | 17:56 |
| Wolfger | yep | 17:56 |
| snap-l | And I'm already making compromises. | 17:56 |
| Wolfger | Just go to Wall Street and get pepper-sprayed. It's less painful, and slightly more effective. | 17:56 |
| snap-l | Penguin group has about a billion imprints. | 17:56 |
| brousch | it makes sense to target companies that you think can be swayed | 17:57 |
| brousch | like tech book publishers | 17:57 |
| snap-l | That's my intent | 18:01 |
| snap-l | Also, quite frankly, it gets me some shelf space, and gets rid of books that I'm not really reading. ;) | 18:01 |
| snap-l | *cough* opportunistic asshole *cough* | 18:02 |
| brousch | i'm quoting that on twitter now | 18:02 |
| snap-l | ;) | 18:02 |
| Wolfger | Oooh, nice and cheap: www.amazon.com/Out-Later-Years-Philosopher-ebook/dp/B004Q9U0L0/ref=br_lf_m_1000706171_1_4_ttl | 18:02 |
| Wolfger | snap-l: getting rid of what you've already bought has no effect, really. They got your money. | 18:03 |
| snap-l | I know, but they also hate the used market with a passion. :) | 18:03 |
| brousch | what would you do if amazon supported sopa? | 18:04 |
| snap-l | Die a lot inside. | 18:05 |
| snap-l | And then take everything over to John King Books | 18:08 |
| Wolfger | I would have to imagine Amazon is violently opposed to SOPA. I mean, if they are found to be selling a book that infringes on a copyright, they could be shut down, right? | 18:11 |
| snap-l | Oh yeah | 18:11 |
| snap-l | http://www.reddit.com/r/circlejerk/comments/nlieb/why_is_sopa_being_passed_while_im_upvoting_all_of/ | 18:21 |
| greg-g | wait a second, what the hell is the image at the bottom of that page? | 18:23 |
| greg-g | of the circle of aliens | 18:23 |
| snap-l | Um.... | 18:24 |
| snap-l | http://www.reddit.com/r/circlejerk | 18:24 |
| snap-l | I guess it's a little too late to say NSFW? | 18:24 |
| greg-g | lol | 18:24 |
| Wolfger | Didn't see any image. | 18:24 |
| Wolfger | Could be that it was blocked from loading. | 18:25 |
| snap-l | scroll all the way down | 18:25 |
| Wolfger | and now somebody in IT is asking why I'm trying to look at such a thing | 18:25 |
| brousch | look at the name | 18:26 |
| brousch | it's your own fault | 18:26 |
| greg-g | who reads URLs anymore? | 18:26 |
| brousch | :P | 18:27 |
| Wolfger | I read the URL. It said Reddit. :-p | 18:39 |
| Wolfger | I know Reddit is allowed at work (don't ask me why), so I clicked. | 18:39 |
| snap-l | Apress information: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Springer_Science%2BBusiness_Media#Selected_imprints | 18:40 |
| Wolfger | http://askubuntu.com/questions/89673/busybox-v1-18-4-ubuntu-11-18-4-2ubuntu2-built-in-shell-ash-enter-help-for-a | 18:48 |
| snap-l | That first paragraph makes no sense. | 18:49 |
| brousch | they never do, until jcastro comes along and deciphers them | 18:51 |
| Wolfger | I love the part where he switches to caps-lock and starts swearing, like that will get people to help him faster... | 18:56 |
| snap-l | WHAT, DOESN'T THAT WORK? | 18:57 |
| Wolfger | was tempted to edit it to put everything in proper case and remove all swear words, but I just flagged it instead. | 18:57 |
| Wolfger | I feel for the guy, but there's really no excuse for that. | 18:58 |
| Wolfger | I think I am in love with Louis C.K. http://money.cnn.com/2011/12/22/technology/louis_ck_million/index.htm?source=cnn_bin | 19:05 |
| greg-g | snap-l: ah, apress is an imprint of springer? Spring is a mostly-OK (not great, maybe not good, depending on the day/journal) scholarly publisher | 19:18 |
| greg-g | s/Spring/Springer/ | 19:18 |
| snap-l | greg-g: Yeah, most of these publishers have a lot of evil streaks to them | 19:21 |
| snap-l | btw: just made $90+ trading in a book back to Amazon. | 19:21 |
| rick_h__ | snap-l: sweet | 19:22 |
| rick_h__ | next round at CHC is on snap-l everyone :) | 19:22 |
| snap-l | That'll pay for the Morgan Kauffman replacement. :) | 19:22 |
| snap-l | Pffffft. | 19:22 |
| _stink_ | snap-l: not really - i do recall having trouble making cernlibs work with gfortran. that was maybe 3 years ago | 19:31 |
| jcastro | Wolfger: I just edit out the bad stuff | 19:42 |
| jcastro | but I was at lunch | 19:42 |
| Wolfger | slacker | 19:46 |
| greg-g | yay, last conf call for the year starting in 5 minutes! | 19:55 |
| greg-g | (watch, I just jinxed it) | 19:55 |
| snap-l | (yeah, that would do it. :) ) | 19:56 |
| * ColonelPanic001 extends welcome to The_Machine | 20:28 | |
| rick_h__ | jcastro: hey, sorry to bug you but my new ultrasharp arrived an my time spent last night didn't get me anywhere. | 20:32 |
| rick_h__ | any idea where I can take this? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-intel/+bug/906441 | 20:32 |
| rick_h__ | seems to have a few people out there with the same issue, not sure where to head for irc/docs to debug getting vesa vs intel | 20:33 |
| snap-l | http://rpg.drivethrustuff.com/product_info.php?products_id=97688 | 21:05 |
| snap-l | Merry Krampus. :) | 21:05 |
| snap-l | (and CC licensed) | 21:05 |
| The_Machine | It's alright, i know what you mean | 21:55 |
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