[00:02] brousch: so, what was broken for you? [00:02] when I resume form suspend I have to ctrl+alt+F1 then c+a+F7 to get a non-black screen [00:02] in xubuntu or in ubuntu one music? [00:05] I guess xubuntu (figured you wree refering to Ubuntu) [00:05] greg-g: Jesus, how do you keep up with the cc mailing lists? [00:05] high traffic, high strawman [00:05] it locks up on suspend [00:06] so i have to hibernate, which takes like 5 minutes to reccover from [00:07] brousch: ah [00:07] snap-l: well, right now, I'm terribly behind [00:07] ML is doing a great job, from the little I read [00:07] also the volume indddicators are worthless. they always show it at 0 [00:07] Yeah, he is, but man... [00:07] yeah, I know, the craziness come out of the woodwork during this process [00:08] s/craziness/crazies/ [00:08] Have tocommend you folks on handling the hypotheticals [00:08] "What if I package my music inside the anus of a panda bear, but the panda bear is really, really crotchety" [00:09] "is that the same as distribution if I send the panda bear to my brother's place, and upon arrival, it plays Brad Sucks?" [00:09] "Thereby irritating the panda, and causing it to maul my brother" [00:09] "I mean, it says SA, but it's up a panda ass" [00:10] Also, I'm starting to think the CC handles two parts, not one [00:10] distribution and remixing [00:11] and both sides love to talk past the other side. [00:11] sorry, I know this isn't the place to bitch about it, but just wondered about your thoughts. :) [00:22] snap-l: sorry, baby duty [00:22] Yeah, no worries. :) [00:22] and yes, I agree re distro vs remix sub communities [00:27] Blazeix: _stink_ snap-l https://github.com/rspivak/httpcode kind of cool [00:27] That's pretty cool [00:28] yea [04:27] dammit, this video is pissing me off. stuck in vesa land [04:27] this is why I get intel, so I don't have to worry about this crap [12:36] Morning. [12:36] * Wolfger wonders why snap-l has a panda-ass mp3 player... [13:02] amihere? [13:07] yes [13:07] maybe [13:07] thanks [13:07] sometimes i'm not sure with pidgin when it comes out of suspend [13:08] http://www.sitepoint.com/sale/?SNEAK_PEEK&utm_source=email&utm_medium=email&utm_term=day22&utm_campaign=xmas-sale-2011 [13:14] pdf+epub+mobi [13:20] * Wolfger looks around... "No, brousch, you're not here." [13:20] That would have been creepy if I looked around and he was standing there behind me. [13:23] rick_h__: Did you see today's Woot? [13:23] yes... [13:23] i wonder what ubuntu's cash situation is. could they afford to buy the IP from nv/ati and hire devs to write good drivers? [13:24] seems expensive. i can get a nook color for that price [13:24] brousch: Yeah, but you get the largest screen of all of them [13:24] eink > * [13:24] black and white [13:24] i need color damnit [13:25] brousch: Right, so no Angry Birds for you. [13:25] i think we've hashed this over before [13:25] why do you need color in a book reader? [13:25] sorry, saw the nook tablet last night and those jaggy's would kill me in reading [13:25] magazines. kids books. [13:25] rick_h__: They're not that bad [13:25] true. distro is beautiful in color, so is flipbook. [13:26] but if you are reading like an adult... eink is excellent replacement for paperbacks [13:26] snap-l: yea, maybe over time I'd get used to it, but just in skimming there last night it was distracting [13:27] i had a similar reaction to a non antialiased line recently. [13:27] i thought, "why the fuck can I see the pixels jagged?" [13:29] The only time I really notice it is in italicized text. [13:29] also having the kindle reader+nook reader+fb reader + the whole google and amazon android markets is just nice [13:32] snap-l: it's done... [13:32] rick_h__: The deed? [13:32] yea [13:32] Uh oh [13:32] Erica know? :) [13:32] not yet [13:32] We have a couch and wifi if you need it. :) [13:32] lol [13:33] well hopefully she'll use it as well so it's part experiment for her demands [13:33] but we'll see [13:33] it's the lowest price I've seen for one even used so wtf [13:33] Blame me as an accomplice. :) [13:33] like living before lightbulbs [13:34] rick_h__: You know what this means? [13:35] snap-l: yes...a new one will be out Jan 5th [13:35] Amazon will blow out of their refurbs at $199, and then do a complete refresh on the line and make it $250. [13:35] It'll be the Kindle Touch DX [13:35] kindle DY announced for April 1. color e-ink for $249 [13:36] brousch: Mean [13:36] Somehow I don't think the eInk will get color in that form-factor [13:36] because it'll make a $500 e-ink device. [13:38] brousch, sad news last year for the train at breton village mall: http://www.mlive.com/business/west-michigan/index.ssf/2011/12/man_behind_breton_village_chri.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+grpress+%28The+Grand+Rapids+Press+Latest+News+%7C+MLive.com%29&utm_content=Google+Reader [13:39] color would be nice for magazine subscriptions, but I can't think what other purpose color serves in e-book readers. I'm certainly not willing to pay a $100 (or more) premium for color. [13:39] jjesse: Aw, that's sad, but very cool [13:39] yeah its an awesome train setup [13:39] I hope someone takes his enthusiasm [13:40] DeVries said he plans to sell his pieces at auction or on eBay. [13:40] Oh, that's a bummer. [13:40] did i post pictures to google+? [13:41] i know i did to facebook [13:43] I didn't. [13:48] jjesse: at least we got to meet him. i made sure george thanked him for doing it [13:48] we wrote a note in the book each year thanking him [13:48] would be nice if someone bought the entire set and set things up [13:48] but i bets its a lot of work [13:53] just moving it in and out is huge [13:57] imagine the space he has at home to store it [14:20] That's why God invented Garages. [14:20] this would fill a 3 stall garage [14:23] Is it sad that the most useful plugins I have for Firefox / Chrome are reloading plugins? [14:23] not bookie? [14:24] Should have clarified: for work [14:25] my thumbnail database for digikam is 800MB [14:25] this does not make dropbox happy [14:27] lol [14:27] 800mb of small files? [14:27] sqlite [14:27] what... dropbox and not Ubuntu One? [14:28] i suspect ubuntuone would choke and die on something like that [14:30] i moved it out of a synced folder. that should be better [14:31] it's cool that digikam gives me that level of control [14:31] it looks like it can also use a mysql DB [14:31] so does a little thing called "UNIX" [14:32] they're called "links" [14:35] snap-l: how does a link allow you to move something out of a folder? [14:35] move something out of the folder [14:36] do ln -s new_location old_location [14:36] but wouldn't the sync also follow that link? [14:37] i don't think so with dropbox [15:36] Why have I never heard of this before? http://freedesktop.org/software/pulseaudio/pavucontrol/ [15:37] (and why do the standard sound controls in Ubuntu suck so badly?) [15:37] Wolfger: Heh [15:46] ahahah, i like that someone suggested Python to jrwren after his Ruby complaint, and it wasn't even one of us [15:47] lol [16:04] heyhey! i have an ubuntuone indicator in my system tray again. life is good! https://launchpad.net/one-indicator [16:05] i can right-click it and see wtf it is doing [16:06] haha, nice. [16:06] i didn't see that. [16:09] rick_h__: thanks for the link to the U1DB stuff [16:10] Looks interesting [16:10] ok, i read twitter, and I still didn't see anyone suggest python. [16:14] http://www.reddit.com/r/politics/comments/nmnie/godaddy_supports_sopa_im_transferring_51_domains/ [16:15] oh, mulka [16:16] i xfer from godaddy for lots of other reasons. [16:16] this is just another. [16:16] jrwren: https://twitter.com/#!/JayRWren/status/149872281617838080 [16:17] Also, Pearson Education supports sopa [16:24] snap-l: see twitter RT from dmarsh if you have a second. Wonder what you and the wife used perhaps? [16:25] JoDee's been using GNU Fortran [16:26] _stink_: Got any insight? [16:30] Ah, a banner year. I moved all of my domains off of Register.com and GoDaddy [16:30] yeah, maybe I'm naive, but I'd think GNU Fortran is the definitive modern compiler. [16:30] but I always think gnu compilers are the definitive modern, and sometimes that just isn't true. [16:31] WEll, I think the performant Fortran compilers are Intel's compilers [16:31] but my info is about 10 years old. [16:32] i think anyone doing fortran for perf reasons needs to take their head out of the sand [16:33] heh [16:36] Man, now I feel dirty reading Doug Hellmann's book. [16:37] you're not dirty for reading it, just for buying it [16:38] snap-l: huh? [16:38] Addison Wesley is part of Pearson Education, which supports SOPA. [16:39] BURN IT [16:39] It's an eBook [16:39] yeah, i just saw tim orielly's tweet. [16:40] snap-l: ah, gotcha [16:40] I retweeted. [16:40] that is how I saw it. [16:40] It was two weeks ago that he mentioned it. [16:40] rm isn't nearly as spectacular as burning, so i recommend you open it on a kindle and burn the kindle [16:44] brousch: You're too kind. :) [17:05] any reason GoDaddy is supporting SOPA? [17:06] other than terminal idiocy, not sure. [17:09] because if your domain gets banned, you'll buy a new one [17:23] Making room on my shelves for non-SOPA supporters. :) [17:25] Although justifying keeping the Art of Computer Programming / Stevens books because Pearson hadn't purchased them yet. ;) [17:30] :) [17:31] Argh, Chris Crawford's book is on New Riders, a Pearson imprint. :( [17:31] principles, or idolizing a game developer that I tried to go out as for Halloween. [17:31] when I was in Fifth Grade. [17:32] :( this is why Free Software is always seen as extreme. Sticking by your principles gets hard and looks weird [17:34] Yeah, no kidding. [17:36] and then you look like an asshat because you make people realise the things they love are evil [17:38] Well, Chris Crawford wins out [17:38] though I shall read it with disdain. :) [17:42] I'm putting "Publisher Supports SOPA" in the comments field of my listing. [17:42] Man, I really hope O'Reilly never becomes evil. [17:45] is Apress evil? [17:46] Not to my knowledge. [17:48] http://www.thedominoproject.com/2011/12/who-wants-to-break-the-internet.html [17:49] that would be more useful with links [17:49] wtf is ABC? [17:49] Disney [17:50] ESPN is on the list as well [17:50] another Disney company [17:50] NFL (I can see why they support SOPA) [17:53] now i can boycott football on principle instead of just because i find it uninteresting? [17:54] But of course [17:55] I think that if you want to boycott people who support SOPA you will never see another movie again, nor watch any TV [17:55] listen to very little music [17:55] and reduce your availability of reading material [17:55] I'm doing it with books [17:56] unfotunately, if I did it with DVD / CDs, I'd have to sell everything. :) [17:56] yep [17:56] And I'm already making compromises. [17:56] Just go to Wall Street and get pepper-sprayed. It's less painful, and slightly more effective. [17:56] Penguin group has about a billion imprints. [17:57] it makes sense to target companies that you think can be swayed [17:57] like tech book publishers [18:01] That's my intent [18:01] Also, quite frankly, it gets me some shelf space, and gets rid of books that I'm not really reading. ;) [18:02] *cough* opportunistic asshole *cough* [18:02] i'm quoting that on twitter now [18:02] ;) [18:02] Oooh, nice and cheap: www.amazon.com/Out-Later-Years-Philosopher-ebook/dp/B004Q9U0L0/ref=br_lf_m_1000706171_1_4_ttl [18:03] snap-l: getting rid of what you've already bought has no effect, really. They got your money. [18:03] I know, but they also hate the used market with a passion. :) [18:04] what would you do if amazon supported sopa? [18:05] Die a lot inside. [18:08] And then take everything over to John King Books [18:11] I would have to imagine Amazon is violently opposed to SOPA. I mean, if they are found to be selling a book that infringes on a copyright, they could be shut down, right? [18:11] Oh yeah [18:21] http://www.reddit.com/r/circlejerk/comments/nlieb/why_is_sopa_being_passed_while_im_upvoting_all_of/ [18:23] wait a second, what the hell is the image at the bottom of that page? [18:23] of the circle of aliens [18:24] Um.... [18:24] http://www.reddit.com/r/circlejerk [18:24] I guess it's a little too late to say NSFW? [18:24] lol [18:24] Didn't see any image. [18:25] Could be that it was blocked from loading. [18:25] scroll all the way down [18:25] and now somebody in IT is asking why I'm trying to look at such a thing [18:26] look at the name [18:26] it's your own fault [18:26] who reads URLs anymore? [18:27] :P [18:39] I read the URL. It said Reddit. :-p [18:39] I know Reddit is allowed at work (don't ask me why), so I clicked. [18:40] Apress information: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Springer_Science%2BBusiness_Media#Selected_imprints [18:48] http://askubuntu.com/questions/89673/busybox-v1-18-4-ubuntu-11-18-4-2ubuntu2-built-in-shell-ash-enter-help-for-a [18:49] That first paragraph makes no sense. [18:51] they never do, until jcastro comes along and deciphers them [18:56] I love the part where he switches to caps-lock and starts swearing, like that will get people to help him faster... [18:57] WHAT, DOESN'T THAT WORK? [18:57] was tempted to edit it to put everything in proper case and remove all swear words, but I just flagged it instead. [18:58] I feel for the guy, but there's really no excuse for that. [19:05] I think I am in love with Louis C.K. http://money.cnn.com/2011/12/22/technology/louis_ck_million/index.htm?source=cnn_bin [19:18] snap-l: ah, apress is an imprint of springer? Spring is a mostly-OK (not great, maybe not good, depending on the day/journal) scholarly publisher [19:18] s/Spring/Springer/ [19:21] greg-g: Yeah, most of these publishers have a lot of evil streaks to them [19:21] btw: just made $90+ trading in a book back to Amazon. [19:22] snap-l: sweet [19:22] next round at CHC is on snap-l everyone :) [19:22] That'll pay for the Morgan Kauffman replacement. :) [19:22] Pffffft. [19:31] <_stink_> snap-l: not really - i do recall having trouble making cernlibs work with gfortran. that was maybe 3 years ago [19:42] Wolfger: I just edit out the bad stuff [19:42] but I was at lunch [19:46] slacker [19:55] yay, last conf call for the year starting in 5 minutes! [19:55] (watch, I just jinxed it) [19:56] (yeah, that would do it. :) ) [20:28] * ColonelPanic001 extends welcome to The_Machine [20:32] jcastro: hey, sorry to bug you but my new ultrasharp arrived an my time spent last night didn't get me anywhere. [20:32] any idea where I can take this? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-intel/+bug/906441 [20:33] seems to have a few people out there with the same issue, not sure where to head for irc/docs to debug getting vesa vs intel [21:05] http://rpg.drivethrustuff.com/product_info.php?products_id=97688 [21:05] Merry Krampus. :) [21:05] (and CC licensed) [21:55] It's alright, i know what you mean