[00:00] <b1llydev> i'm having trouble finding my apache config files
[00:00] <b1llydev> anyone have any idea
[00:00] <b1llydev> how i can go about finding these
[00:00] <phil_> my bfg geforce 9800gt graphics card keeps crashing :(
[00:00] <vouth> helena: I'm looking, and have the 'cursor theme' panel there. Probably I'm just being stupid but I don't see where to change the size…
[00:00] <ssbr_> ugh
[00:00] <e2b04836> b1llydev: /etc/apache2
[00:01] <XiaolinDraconis> anyone on 11.10 have luck changing the cursor? completely
[00:01] <vouth> helena: where is it?
[00:01] <b1llydev> e2b04836: thanks, what does the etc folder contain? just all application config files?
[00:01] <helena> vouth: in fact I am not sure, but i think i already changed it in the 'computer administration' > 'keyboard & mouse'
[00:01] <e2b04836> it contains a lot
[00:01] <e2b04836> including config files
[00:01] <vouth> helena: ok, thanks… I'll look there
[00:01] <iToast> You guys
[00:01] <Holehearted> e2b04836, postgres is also 1000 in the booted up enviornment ... Maybe this is changed in a script during the boot process? I just don't want to break anything related to postgres.
[00:02] <iToast> Ubuntu on p4 with 512 mb ram or amd cpu with 1gb ram
[00:02] <Holehearted> iToast, what are you wanting to do with it?
[00:02] <Holehearted> iToast, it's really just up to you
[00:02] <iToast> Holehearted: web server and reuse the rest of the diskspace as a network drive
[00:02] <iToast> or a external HDD as a network drive.
[00:03] <e2b04836> Holehearted: to be honest i'm really not sure and i don't want to give you advice that'll end up breaking something
[00:03] <phil_> HOW DO I USE A .RUN FILE IN UNBUNTU 11.10???????????
[00:03] <e2b04836> wow, don't shout please
[00:04] <helena> vouth: if you don't find it, in the 'mouse' section, in 'cursor theme', you can install new themes
[00:04] <Holehearted> iToast, you don't need 1GB RAM for a personal web server and NAS, if that helps you make the decision any
[00:04] <phil_> i want to install a graphics driver help
[00:04] <ikonia> phil_: best to not use caps if you want a response
[00:04] <iToast> Holehearted: Any guides on using it as a NAS
[00:04] <ikonia> phil_: don't use a .run file, what card do you have, nvidia or ati
[00:04] <Holehearted> e2b04836, alright, thanks
[00:04] <helena> vouth: themes with a bigger cursor size may certainly exist
[00:04] <cgkades> phil_: chmod +x the .run file
[00:04] <iToast> simple guides. as in not secure it.
[00:04] <e2b04836> phil_: chmod +x <file> then ./<file>
[00:04] <cgkades> phil_: then ./<file>
[00:04] <phil_> iknonia: have nvidia
[00:04] <just4fun> ty l xangua i try asap
[00:04] <iToast> Holehearted: the nas doesnt need to be secure :)
[00:04] <ikonia> phil_: use the hardware drivers tool
[00:04] <ikonia> phil_: then supported drivers will be installed
[00:05] <ikonia> phil_: the ones provided from .run can provide long term problems
[00:05] <Nach0z> alright got a new issue for yall. I'm trying to boot from a Ubuntu 11.04 CD-R I just burned, and it says getpwuid_r() failed due to unknown user ID 0. then the installer hangs at "skipping nonexistent file" etc etc. any ideas?
[00:05] <vouth> hmm, thanks. Basically the problem is I'm actually using GNOME but I have KDE installed and use them sort of side-by-side. The GNOME size is pretty small — how I like it — the whiteglass theme, but when I choose whiteglass in KDE it gets big in KDE programs suddenly. It's just a little disconcerting to have my cursor keep changing size :-P
[00:05] <phil_> ikonia i tried that my 9800 gt keeps crashing
[00:06] <just4fun> ty l ubottu i try it for 2nd choice
[00:06] <ikonia> phil_: which driver did you select ?
[00:06] <Holehearted> iToast, http://lmgtfy.com/?q=ubuntu+NAS
[00:06] <phil_> both of them
[00:06] <phil_> the updated and the other one
[00:06] <iToast> Holehearted: You think I didn't try that.
[00:06] <iToast> For the last few days
[00:06] <phil_> updated and other one both kill my card
[00:06] <iToast> Google is far from perfect
[00:07] <justdave> I'm using 10.04LTS...  I remember in older versions there was a blacklist in the Login Screen control panel to list accounts you didn't want shown on the login screen.  Where do I go to edit that now? It's no longer in that control panel.
[00:07] <Holehearted> iToast, what weren't you able to accomplish?
[00:07] <iToast> Holehearted: Allowing network'ed machines to access the nas
[00:07] <vouth> In Itune$, there is a way to display each album with the cover art in a column to the left (I don't know what that's called). Is there anything similar in Banshee?
[00:07] <phil_> lasts about 5 mins then crashes
[00:08] <phil_> has the same problem windows 7 thats why i swapped to unbuntu and it still dont work :(
[00:08] <Holehearted> iToast, how do you want them to be able to access it? FTP? HTTP? SMB?
[00:08] <phil_> think i might just give up and buy a different card
[00:08] <iToast> Im not shrue how to explain
[00:08] <iToast> Using samba so it can be mapped as a network drive
[00:09] <Holehearted> Samba = SMB
[00:09] <Holehearted> @iToast
[00:10] <Holehearted> iToast, that first link in google looks like a pretty complete guide...
[00:10] <Holehearted> iToast, http://www.danielandrade.net/2011/08/29/diy-home-ubuntu-nas-server/
[00:10] <iToast> i never got that one before
[00:10] <iToast> I googled "How to use ubuntu server as a NAS"
[00:10] <ikonia> iToast: if you can't do the research - stop doing it
[00:10] <iToast> ikonia: No.
[00:10] <ikonia> iToast: you seem to struggle finding guides, let alone following them
[00:10] <Holehearted> lol
[00:10] <iToast> Google is FAR from perfect.
[00:10] <Holehearted> iToast, Google Fu, learn it
[00:11] <iToast> Search computer mosue and youl get images of a cat.
[00:11] <ikonia> iToast: yes, but everyone else finds the guides, you don't
[00:11] <ikonia> iToast: you where even given a direct link in #mysql - and said you "couldn't find a guide"
[00:11] <e2b04836> iToast: have you considered FreeNAS?
[00:11] <theberg> or your google foo is weak
[00:11] <Holehearted> iToast, notice how I only searched for "Ubuntu NAS" and I got a kickass result?
[00:11] <iToast> Holehearted: ...
[00:11] <timClicks> I would like to be able to load a laptop straight into a terminal.. e.g. without ubuntu-desktop
[00:11] <iToast> e2b04836:I considered and tried it with no success
[00:11] <histo> iToast: if I search for computer mouse I get pictures of computer mice
[00:11] <iToast> FreeNAS will not boot from a usb correctly. ever.
[00:12] <timClicks> can some one point me to instructions?
[00:12] <iToast> histo: I've managed to get alot of random results.
[00:12] <ikonia> iToast: with so little ram - don't run it from usb
[00:12] <iToast> ikonia: Im not running from usb, im installing.
[00:13] <Holehearted> iToast, installing via USB? Tried unetbootin?
[00:13] <iToast> Yes
[00:13] <iToast> Tried varios tools.
[00:14] <Holehearted> alright well that guide I linked you too looks like just what you're looking for
[00:14] <iToast> Ty
[00:14] <Octane> anyone know the trick to getting pidging to connect google talk
[00:14] <Amdpc> Hi...I want the weather applet make work on 11.10...Any idea ?
[00:14] <Holehearted> Octane, http://www.google.com/
[00:14] <Octane> Holehearted ?
[00:15] <iToast> Hey anyone else have issues with chrome lately?
[00:15] <Holehearted> I forgot what it was like to be on IRC... :|
[00:15] <iToast> You know, since flash became perma part of chrome.
[00:15] <Octane> if youre suggest i google, i tried a bunch of stuff people have suggested and cant get it to work
[00:15] <histo> !ask | iToast
[00:15] <histo> !detail
[00:16] <Amdpc> Octane : Accounts -> Manage Accounts -> Add Google Talk ...!
[00:16] <iToast> histo: i wasent asking to ask?
[00:16] <histo> !details
[00:16] <iToast> ...
[00:16] <iToast> I did
[00:16] <histo> iToast: sorry that was the factoid I was looking for
[00:16] <iToast> oh
[00:16] <Octane> Amdpc <3
[00:16] <Holehearted> lol
[00:16] <iToast> Anywyas, anyone suffer crashes and hangs inchrome when more then 5 pages load flash at a time.
[00:16] <histo> iToast: I'm using chromium here and no
[00:17] <iToast> Wierd.
[00:17] <ascheel> Problem with natty.  Did apt-get distupgrade after a month or two of no updates.  After update and reboot, WIRED network adapter is 'unclaimed' in 'lshw'.  Chipset is RTL8111 / 8168B
[00:17] <iToast> Chrome randomly hangs with flash on windows and mac
[00:17] <Amdpc> Octane : Worked or not ?
[00:17] <histo> iToast: although chromium does not have flash built in
[00:17] <iToast> lol
[00:17] <iToast> Lucky.,
[00:17] <histo> iToast: and with chrome you'd be better off asking in #windows or #mac
[00:18] <ascheel> s/distupgrade/dist-upgrade/
[00:18] <yacc> Anyone got an idea how to disable AHCI? I've put my BIOS in IDE mode, but 10.04.3 still happily enables ahci during boot, ...
[00:18] <iToast> histo: I was just asking a question
[00:19] <ascheel> nevermind on my question...  the upgraded added a modprobe blacklist for this chipset.  WTF?
[00:19] <shadowh511> quick question
[00:20] <novatore> ciao
[00:20] <novatore> list!
[00:20] <shadowh511> oneric is getting to a black screen on boot
[00:21] <Toph2> iToast,,, both Firefox and chrome cause my ubuntu 11.10 to hang up,, Firefox moreso than chrome
[00:21] <OffGridOps> ubuntu 11.10:  my camera (nikkon) saves movies in .MOV when I put them on my desktop they don't play but rather skip and only about 3 seconds of sound.  They work fine in W*ndows7.  Any suggestions as I have just about every repository I can think of installed.  Thanx
[00:21] <asava> OffGridOps: these 1080p videos?
[00:22] <ascheel> shadowh511: that's not a question.  just sayin'
[00:22] <OffGridOps> yeah probably as that's what the camera records hd i think
[00:22] <Octane> aww man i should have installed kubuntu
[00:22] <shadowh511> ascheel: i know, I am getting info
[00:22] <asava> i have a Canon 5d Mk ii
[00:22] <ascheel> ;)
[00:22] <asava> and only player that will play them natively
[00:22] <ascheel> asava: /jealous
[00:22] <asava> mplayer
[00:22] <OffGridOps> it's a camera nikkon cool picL110
[00:22] <asava> everything else takes a dive
[00:22] <asava> vlc gets choppy
[00:23] <asava> run mplay filename.mov from the commandline
[00:23] <iToast> Toph2: Firefox sucks now :/
[00:23] <asava> and you should be good
[00:23] <shadowh511> ascheel: could an old video card stop lightdm from statrting?
[00:23] <ascheel> shadowh511: ask the channel, bud.  ;)  Not me.
[00:23] <OffGridOps> ok will try and be back thanx for your quick reply!  ;)
[00:23] <shadowh511> could an old video card stop lightdm from statrting?
[00:23] <Toph2> iToast,,, is it flash causing the issues?
[00:23] <iToast> Toph2: Yes
[00:23] <Toph2> i see
[00:23] <iToast> Flash hangs core i7's.
[00:24] <e2b04836> true story
[00:24] <iToast> Holehearted: That link you sent me is trash.
[00:24] <Toph2> iToast,,, what is the solution,,, besides restricting the number of tabs open?
[00:24] <iToast> Toph2: Remove flash.
[00:24] <Toph2> iToast,,, how do I do such?
[00:24] <ubufanity> hi everyone
[00:25] <iToast> sypatic package manager
[00:25] <OffGridOps> @asava:  no mplayer installed
[00:25] <boldfilter> How do you get the dashboard launcher back from 11.04
[00:25] <Toph2> iToast,,, ok,, trying
[00:25] <asava> try installing it
[00:25] <OffGridOps> No command 'mplay' found, did you mean
[00:25] <asava> pretty sure it was mplayer
[00:25] <asava> let me double check
[00:25] <OffGridOps> ok be back in a sec
[00:26] <vouth> I am getting no sound output. I have the cable plugged into the headphone port on the front of the computer. I have checked that nothing is muted. The output device is 'Simultaneous Output', the only available device. What could cause this?
[00:26] <asava> yeah it's mplayer
[00:26] <asava> use your package manager to install
[00:26] <asava> pretty lightweight package
[00:26] <yacc> Anyway to make Ubuntu not use a certain module (ahci.ko to be specific) in initramfs?
[00:27] <OffGridOps> mplayer is installed
[00:27] <OffGridOps> do i need to run sudo?
[00:27] <asava> to install mplayer yes
[00:27] <asava> to watch the video, no
[00:27] <helena> vouth: your audio card may not recognized by the system ?
[00:28] <OffGridOps> mplayer is installed checked it thru the software center
[00:28] <OffGridOps> if its called movie player i used it to try to open the videos earlier
[00:28] <asava> so go to the directory the .mov is in, and run mplayer yourmovie.mov
[00:28] <asava> run it from command line
[00:28] <vouth> helena: Perhaps. How would I check?
[00:29] <OffGridOps> ah going there now
[00:29] <ekirnet> que es esto ??
[00:29] <sumosu> duh. looking for an up to date how to on mounting an .iso in grub2
[00:30] <histo> sumosu: you mean booting an iso in grub2?
[00:30] <sumosu> histo: yes. but not emergency wise
[00:31] <almoxarife> on a normal working no glitch 11.10 at a restart I see ' asking ....... all process to stop  Failed" it's the only fail and it does not seem to effect anything, the question is where did it get logged? I want to know what fails everytime
[00:31] <histo> sumosu: http://www.panticz.de/MultiBootUSB this page will provide some insite
[00:31] <sumosu> histo: i would like to have it selectable from grub2.
[00:32] <histo> sumosu: http://www.webupd8.org/2011/02/how-to-boot-iso-with-grub2-easy-way.html
[00:32] <e2b04836> almoxarife: /var/log/syslog and /var/log/messages
[00:32] <histo> sumosu: aparently unetbootin can create grub menu entries for you
[00:32] <eselle> not sure if this is an ubuntu or vmware issue, but im trying to install ubuntu within a VM on my windows 7 machine but when I try to give my computer a name it just says 'That name already exists on the network' even through the names are unique
[00:32] <sumosu> histo: thanks i'm gonna give it a shot
[00:33] <histo> eselle: which computer provides that error?
[00:33] <eselle> histo, its the only virtual machine
[00:33] <sumosu> histo: uh wait that won't work because i have to specify a partition
[00:34] <helena> vouth: sudo aplay -l
[00:35] <helena> vouth: if you see 'no soundcard found' it is not good :)
[00:35] <leftist> test
[00:36] <eselle> ah, I apparently needed to put in a password
[00:36] <eselle> odd error
[00:37] <savid> Is there somewhere on an ubuntu server where it's  hostname is stored other than in /etc/hostname?   I've installed a service that's apparently trying to use the old hostname,  but I changed the hostname before I started the service.    The "hostname" command shows the new hostname.
[00:37] <vouth> helena: it says: "**** List of PLAYBACK Hardware Devices ****".
[00:37] <OffGridOps> @asava:  so i went and manually reinstalled everything following:  http://www.ubuntugeek.com/install-mplayer-and-multimedia-codecs-libdvdcss2w32codecsw64codecs-on-ubuntu-11-10-oneiric.html#more-12577
[00:38] <asava> work?
[00:38] <vouth> helena: That's all. I think it basically means 'no soundcard found'.
[00:38] <OffGridOps> I still get:  president@OffGridOps:~/Videos$ mplay Son Dancing.MOV
[00:38] <OffGridOps> No command 'mplay' found, did you mean:
[00:38] <OffGridOps>  Command 'bplay' from package 'bplay' (universe)
[00:38] <OffGridOps>  Command 'aplay' from package 'alsa-utils' (main)
[00:38] <OffGridOps>  Command 'cplay' from package 'cplay' (universe)
[00:38] <FloodBot1> OffGridOps: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:38] <OffGridOps>  Command 'play' from package 'sox' (universe)
[00:38] <asava> you need to type "mplayer" not mplay
[00:38] <sl00> Hi. I have 10 old computers (some maybe with different hardware). How can I get them to act as one single computer? I also want to be able to add/remove computers to this "cluster" with ease.
[00:39] <helena> vouth: yes because normally, it is something like : **** List of PLAYBACK Hardware Devices ****
[00:39] <helena> card 0: Intel [HDA Intel], device 0:  blabla
[00:39] <OffGridOps> ok
[00:39] <vouth> hmm.
[00:39] <asava> sl00: look into salt or puppet
[00:39] <vouth> helena: I guess that means I don't have a card installed. I thought the computer had onboard sound but I guess it doesn't!
[00:40] <vouth> helena: I'll install one then :-)
[00:40] <helena> :)
[00:40] <helena> vouth: good luck :
[00:40] <helena> :)
[00:40] <vouth> Next up is the compiler issue :-P
[00:40] <vouth> Thanks! :-D
[00:41] <vouth> helena: (As you can probably tell, I have about ten million issues at the moment :-D)
[00:41] <helena> vouth: i am not sure to find the others :p
[00:41] <sl00> asava: Is that for building a "super computer"?
[00:41] <vouth> hehe
[00:41] <asava> sl00: no it's for standardizing a group of computers
[00:42] <asava> which, could yes be clustered together to share tasks
[00:42] <e2b04836> savid: /etc/hostname
[00:42] <sl00> asava: Okey. I want to build a "super computer" (or whatever to call it) out of several computers to get more cpu and ram.
[00:42] <e2b04836> whoops, /etc/hostname should work*
[00:44] <Guest16822> dear Dr could I consider my fully updated version of Ubuntu 10.04 LTS to be the equivalent of 10.10 (Maverick Meerkat for referencing purposes or is it more complicated than that ?
[00:44] <OffGridOps> @asava:  weird stuff.  says Son Dancing.MOV does not exist as Son and Dancing.  Does the same if I add ___
[00:44] <OffGridOps> I can simply change to mp4 though so no biggie
[00:45] <sumosu> hmm goona give the boot a shot:)
[00:45] <e2b04836> OffGridOps: the filename has spaces, put it in "s
[00:46] <OffGridOps> ok so like "Son Dancing".MOV or "Son Dancing.MOV"
[00:46] <asava> in a terminal you have to type Son\ Dancing.MOV
[00:46] <e2b04836> "Son Dancing.MOV"
[00:46] <asava> escape the space
[00:47] <OffGridOps> Homerun there e2b04836.  so yeah i need to get rid of the spaces i dumped the files from W*ndows.
[00:48] <OffGridOps> is mplayer the same thing as when it asks to run the video using Movie Player?
[00:48] <asava> nope
[00:48] <OffGridOps> so is there a gui type of way to play them or is this basically it then
[00:49] <asava> mplayer has a control panel you can call up
[00:49] <asava> i'll have to look, don't know off the top of my head
[00:49] <asava> i only use gui for a couple things
[00:49] <OffGridOps> ok i will read up on it and i really want to thank y'all for taking time to work w/me!  i always learn alot here!
[00:51] <almoxarife> OffGridOps: mplayer and movie-player are diff, movie-player is 'totem' (not bad for what it does) mplayer get all the attention though
[00:52] <OffGridOps> ultimately i will probably convert all the vids i have as i want to keep them on here.  i love ubuntu and been using it since 10.x days!
[00:53] <almoxarife> OffGridOps: and mplayer does have a nice gui, why have to learn how to do space shot/vectors when all you want is to watch something
[00:53] <almoxarife> !info mplayer-gui
[00:53] <asava> there are plenty of utilities for converting audio/video from one format to another
[00:54] <almoxarife> !info gnome-mplayer
[00:55] <OffGridOps> going to read on that right now thanx!
[00:55] <almoxarife> !info arista
[00:55] <xangua> !msgbot | almoxarife
[00:56] <sumosu> ok lol. isoboot attempt 1 failed miserably
[00:56] <ant0neo>  could I consider my fully updated version of Ubuntu 10.04 LTS to be the equivalent of 10.10 (Maverick Meerkat) for referencing purposes or is it more complicated than that ?
[00:57] <almoxarife> xangua: I was not investigating, I was offering up an app from a question
[01:00] <almoxarife> ant0neo: probably, I can't see anyone spitting hairs over the diff between the two
[01:00] <OffGridOps> Gnome mplayer is a winner!  thanx!
[01:01] <almoxarife> OffGridOps: glad the 'factoid' was of use
[01:03] <ant0neo> thanks almoxarife I am having issues configuring Skype and it is my camera which I have Ubuntu documentation that might assist though there is no mention of 10.04 LTS only 9.04 & 10.10 I heard that later versions of Ubuntu used different files that... .etc etc
[01:05] <justdave> I'm using 10.04LTS...  I remember in older versions there was a blacklist in the Login Screen control panel to list accounts you didn't want shown on the login screen.  Where do I go to edit that now? It's no longer in that control panel.
[01:05] <almoxarife> ant0neo: can you get the camera to work with vlc? without going all script-kiddie that is how I saw my camera just work
[01:06] <asava> google talk has some good libariers as well to get cameras to work
[01:06] <asava> but if you want to use skype, yeah
[01:06] <reki> grub isn't installed by default on the livecd?
[01:07] <reki> i'm trying to get to a grub prompt, but it isn't installed
[01:07] <Boreeas> Oh man, I timed out before getting an answer
[01:07] <almoxarife> ant0neo: get them people who want to skype to google/voice/video, then use pidgin to talk/see them, no reason video/chat needs to be hell
[01:07] <Boreeas> Let's try again
[01:07] <Boreeas> I got a broken pipe while having an rsh to a screen on a remote computer
[01:07] <Boreeas> So, now when I get back on, I'm obviously detached, but I can also not resume the screen
[01:07] <brendan6> What's are the different values the left most column of file permissions contain (as viewed by ls -la). Particularly what's the difference between crw-rw-rw- vs brw-------  I know columns 1..9 are permissions but what does bit 0 represent?
[01:07] <Boreeas> There is a screen on:	7350.minecraft	(16.12.2011 14:00:33)	(Attached)There is no screen to be resumed matching minecraft.
[01:07] <Boreeas> Any Iade how to fix this?
[01:08] <vouth> Whenever I try to build something, I get: "error: C compiler cannot create executables", and the log says "/usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lc". What's happening here?
[01:09] <asava> Boreeas: try either detatching screen 17350 or using -x to attach to it
[01:09] <phil_> CAN SOMEONE HELP ME PLEASE HOW DO I RUN .RUN FILE UNBUNTU 11.10??
[01:10] <xangua> !caps | phil_
[01:10] <tensorpudding> phil_, it's probably a shell script
[01:10] <tensorpudding> just double-clock and run
[01:10] <tensorpudding> if it's not executable, set it executable first
[01:10] <phil_> tensor it dont work :(
[01:10] <vouth> phil_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingRunPackage
[01:10] <e2b04836> phil_: chmod +x <file> and ./<file>
[01:11] <Boreeas> asava: Awesome, -x did it, thanks
[01:11] <Metroshica> I've installed Ubuntu 11.04 on various VMs (both in VMWare and VirtualBox) and I always seem to come across this issue. When it loads the desktop, the top and bottom panels look alright for about 20 seconds, they are the normal black color of the standard Ubuntu theme. However, right after that, they turn grey, and look like taskbars out of an old Windows 98 machine. If I choose a different appearance, that affects windows fine, but it doesn't change the
[01:11] <Metroshica>  top and bottom panels. Anyone know how to fix this and/or why this happens?
[01:11] <d__> ...
[01:12] <d__> .....
[01:12] <DrPenguin> Metroshica: did you install the Virtualization support package from your respective hypervisor?
[01:12] <d__> 아아아
[01:12] <ant0neo> the camera works with youtube uploader though I have cheese wont record yet monitors, I am that much of a beginner that I don't know what vlc means, as said I have some documentation https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeWebCams that might assist yet has no mention of 10.04 LTS only 10.10 and the link to older versions only covers up to 9.04 (Jaunty Jackalope) thanks for the other tip
[01:12] <phil_> tensor how do i set it executable??
[01:12] <d__> 잘된다
[01:12] <e2b04836> plhil_: chmod +x <file>
[01:12] <DrPenguin> phil_: chmod +x file
[01:12] <d__> 한국말로 합시다
[01:12] <Boreeas> d__: Yeah, white space is fun
[01:12] <tensorpudding> phil_, right click, check properties
[01:12] <DrPenguin> or a+x for all 3 groups
[01:12] <vouth> phil_, dude read the link I sent you
[01:12] <phil_> its a nvidia graphics driver by the way
[01:12] <d__> 영어방인가
[01:12] <tensorpudding> it'll be under permissions
[01:12] <tensorpudding> !ko | d__
[01:12] <Metroshica> DrPenguin, I have, I've installed VMWare tools and Guest Additons for both VMWare and VirtualBox, still have the issue
[01:12] <DrPenguin> you can also just invoke sh script
[01:13] <d__> 이룬된장
[01:13] <DrPenguin> Metroshica: thats weird.. Are you using Unity? Not the Hypervisor unity but ubuntus unity
[01:13] <tensorpudding> phil_, running it as your regular user won't work then
[01:14] <Metroshica> DrPenguin, I believe so, I login in with only Ubuntu selected as the desktop manager. I've selected Ubuntu Classic Theme and it does the same thing
[01:14] <phil_> tensor ok ran it in terminal tells me it has to be run as root??
[01:14] <DrPenguin> Metroshica: have you tried logging in using Ubuntu Classic as your session?
[01:15] <DrPenguin> phil_: sudo !!
[01:15] <e2b04836> phil_: use sudo
[01:15] <tensorpudding> phil_, yes, go and open the software center and install the nautilus-gksu package
[01:15] <Metroshica> DrPenguin, I have, and the same problem occurs
[01:15] <tensorpudding> i'm not sure why it's not default
[01:15] <vouth> phil_: sudo ./[filename].run
[01:15] <DrPenguin> Metroshica: that is just plain weird.. Im not sure tho Ive only ran 10.04 in a VM never 11.x
[01:16] <Metroshica> DrPenguin, Yea, I haven't had issues with 10.04. I hate Ubuntu 11, it just happens to be the only iso I have on this computer right now, I'm about to give up and just install 10.04, never had a single issue with that version
[01:17] <DrPenguin> Im not a fan of 11.x either
[01:17] <DrPenguin> 10.04 is so much more stable
[01:17] <vouth> Whenever I try to build something, I get: "error: C compiler cannot create executables", and the log says "/usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lc". What's happening here?
[01:17] <itsnotabigtruck> anyone tried using GPG + S/MIME on oneiric? i'm trying to assist someone setting it up but importing the pkcs#12 (.p12) file doesn't cause the key to show up under gpgsm -K
[01:17] <DrPenguin> vouth: hmm.. the linker is missing something
[01:17] <itsnotabigtruck> i've tried all sorts of things and came across this http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2511
[01:18] <itsnotabigtruck> that bug seeming to imply that it got b0rked in the gpg shipping with ubuntu 11.10
[01:18] <vouth> DrPenguin: I've installed all the common tools etc I thought I'd need. Is there an easy way to tell what's missing?
[01:18] <DrPenguin> vouth: a quick loko at the man page says you may be misisng /lib/crt0.o
[01:18] <vouth> DrPenguin (Sorry, I know next to nothing about development) Ok, I'll look and see if it's there…
[01:18] <phil_> tensor i did that and my graphics card keeps crashing hence i want to use the .run from geforce
[01:18] <DrPenguin> Oh wait I misread the man page
[01:19] <DrPenguin> vouth: so, lets back track, when you say build something, is this you compiling from source? or any c program
[01:19] <vouth> DrPenguin: Well I definitely don't have that file there.
[01:19] <itsnotabigtruck> phil_: you're really better off with the package, why was it you aren't using it?
[01:19] <vouth> DrPenguin: It's Mesa (the graphics library)
[01:19] <DrPenguin> vouth: ok I think your actually missing libc.a
[01:20] <phil_> its i am using it but it crashes my graphics card
[01:20] <vouth> DrPenguin: I'm hoping the newer version (that isn't in the 10.10 repos) will support the graphics chipset I have
[01:20] <DrPenguin> vouth: run this: sudo find / -name "libc.a"
[01:20] <tensorpudding> oh wait, darn
[01:20] <tensorpudding> nautilus-gksu was broken by gnome 3
[01:21] <jaybutts> hey I am trying to install windows 7 on my ubuntu computer, I have disk 0,0 160GB free IDE and then over 4TB in empty sata partitions and windows 7 setup says it can't find an appropriate system partition, sorry if its kind of offtopic but any idea?
[01:21] <phil_> vouth tells me command not found
[01:21] <phil_> man this is soooooooooooooooooooooooo frustrating
[01:21] <phil_> all i wanna do is play gta iv :(
[01:21] <vouth> phil_: in what directory is the .run file??
[01:21] <phil_> put it in home nvidia
[01:22] <phil_> but have tried thast to and no go
[01:22] <DrPenguin> jaybutts: Its always a pain in the  butt installing win  on an existing linux system as a dual boot
[01:22] <NeedHelp> Hello, I have a problem with Ubuntu that the numpad doesn't work. How do I fix it?
[01:22] <e2b04836> turn numlock on?
[01:22] <NeedHelp> e2b04836: doesnt help
[01:22] <DrPenguin> jaybutts: your gonna have a problem too that when you install windows, your gonna lose the ability to boot linux because Windows automagically overwrites mbr
[01:22] <xangua> NeedHelp: hit the function key to enable it
[01:22] <jaybutts> DrPenguin: Yes I know :( and I have done everything right I thought, I have 160GB brand new HDD on disk 0 ide
[01:23] <phil_> jay u must install windows first
[01:23] <DrPenguin> jaybutts: what I would do is just google the issue your having.. it doesnt sound like an ubuntu related issue, Windows  7 just cant parse the drive
[01:23] <phil_> to install unbuntu
[01:23] <OerHeks> NeedHelp, if you hold the 4 or 6, does your mouse move ?
[01:23] <itsnotabigtruck> anyone know about GPGSM
[01:23] <jaybutts> DrPenguin: yea but thats an easy grub fix, I just want to get it installed, this is so ridiculous, I have 5TB and not allowed to install windows
[01:23] <Nach0z> got a new question for yall. I just tried to boot from USB and the boot thing says "vesamenu.c32: not a COM32R image". any ide how to fix this?
[01:23] <vouth> phil_: ok so open a terminal and run: chmod +x ~/[filename].run && ~/[filename].run
[01:23] <roflcopter1> WOOW
[01:23] <NeedHelp> xangua: which button is that? I have a blue button called "F mode", but that doesnt affect it.
[01:24] <roflcopter1> 1461 nicks O.o
[01:24] <vouth> phil_: ok so open a terminal and run — or if you need sudo: chmod +x ~/[filename].run && sudo ~/[filename].run
[01:24] <NeedHelp> xangua: yes, it moves.
[01:24] <OerHeks> NeedHelp, then your numpad is selected as mouse
[01:24] <DrPenguin> Nach0z: ive seen that before at work.. all I know is is that the Os wont boot.. whats on your flash key?
[01:24] <vouth> DrPenguin: Not done searching yet but: /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/xen/libc.a, /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libc.a
[01:24] <NeedHelp> OerHeks: how do I select my numpad as a numpad ?
[01:24] <Metroshica> Would there be any reason why I should use a 32 bit version of Ubuntu instead of 64 bit for a VM? Memory usage isn't a problem as I'll be only allocating about a gig of memory, and it'll only have about 15 gbs of storage.
[01:25] <edbian> NeedHelp, numlock
[01:25] <DrPenguin> vouth: ok so you have the package, but it could be that libc.a is not in ld's search path
[01:25] <Nach0z> um. you want a list of the files there? it's got a syslinux/syslinux.cfg and txt.cfg, the linux file, and everything that I thought should e there
[01:25] <no-name-> when does support for 10.10 desktop end?
[01:25] <OerHeks> NeedHelp, it is an option in the keyboard menu
[01:25] <NeedHelp> edbian: pressing that button doesnt help
[01:25] <vouth> vouth: hmm, ok…
[01:25] <edbian> MetaBot, It will only get 1Gb of ram?  That 32 vs. 64 bit doesn't really make a difference
[01:25] <xangua> !maverick | no-name-
[01:25] <DrPenguin> Metroshica: Well, I cant imagine there being a processor issue with 64bit emulation.. but maybe its worth a shot
[01:25] <no-name-> ta
[01:25] <edbian> NeedHelp, then I'm not sure, do you have an fn key (on a laptop?)
[01:25] <xangua> no-name-: one year and a half since it was released, do the maths ;)
[01:26] <no-name-> ok
[01:26] <no-name-> :)
[01:26] <xangua> =18 months, for normal releases
[01:26] <OerHeks> NeedHelp, There is a shortcut key to toggle Mousekeys also. You can do this by pressing the SHIFT and Num Lock keys together.
[01:26] <vouth> DrPenguin: that last was to you. It turned out to be sort of… reflexive. D'oh! :-S
[01:26] <DrPenguin> Nach0z: so its some custom linux you whipped up?
[01:27] <Nach0z> No, it's the ubuntu mini.iso
[01:27] <DrPenguin> vouth: wha?
[01:27] <Nach0z> using the pendrivelinux installer
[01:27] <zorlac> ive installed apache2 how do i get it to show my webpage when i type localhost into the broswer.  at the moment when i type localhost it says It works!This is the default web page for this server.The web server software is running but no content has been added, yet
[01:27] <DrPenguin> Nach0z: Ah.. thats where I saw the problem
[01:27] <Kieraan> zorlac: You need to add your own files
[01:27] <e2b04836> remove the default index.html and replace it with whatever you want
[01:27] <Nach0z> oh I see o_0 so how do I slap it into working?
[01:27] <DrPenguin> I think the pendrive installer has an issue with linux os's it doesnt support
[01:27] <DrPenguin> Nach0z: BUT.. I *think* you can use dd to just dd the iso onto your flashkey and that would work
[01:27] <vouth> DrPenguin: lol, I accidentally addressed a message to myself :-P  It looks like I have to edit /etc/ld.so.conf then.
[01:27] <Nach0z> I'm on windows. aint got dd :/
[01:28] <NeedHelp> edbian: OerHeks: I got it. I simply unchecked "Preferences->Keyboard->Mouse Keys->Pointer can be controlled using the keypad". Thanks!
[01:28] <DrPenguin> Nach0z: cygwin!
[01:28] <zorlac> i cant past any documents into the folder with the default indext
[01:28] <Kieraan> zorlac: In /var/www/  there will be an index file, change that to your homepage and add all your other website files to that directory
[01:28] <vouth> DrPenguin: (I'm looking at http://www.eyrie.org/~eagle/notes/rpath.html)
[01:28] <Nach0z> ah that's right, I DO have cygwin...
[01:28] <edbian> NeedHelp, sure
[01:28] <DrPenguin> vouth: you can probably pass the extra variable you need to the make process
[01:31] <zorlac> i cant delet or past any fiels into /var/www
[01:31] <itsnotabigtruck> anyone used GPGSM before (GnuPG S/MIME)
[01:31] <Kieraan> zorlac: How are you trying to to do that?
[01:31] <Kieraan> And what distro/version are you running?
[01:32] <e2b04836> zorlac: are you the owner of /var/www?
[01:32] <Metroshica> zorlac, have you checked permissions? by default the owner off /var/www is root
[01:32] <zorlac> im the owner of the computer
[01:32] <DrPenguin> zorlac: lol, not the computer, the directory
[01:32] <Kieraan> Are you using the desktop version with a GUI?
[01:32] <zorlac> how do i change it so my zorlac account can paste files into that folder\
[01:33] <Nach0z> wow. um. DrPenguin, the pendrive installer is just showing a gray screen with rings, and if I hit anything it says "password required" o_0
[01:33] <zorlac> using ubuntu 10.04
[01:33] <Kieraan> zorlac: Open the terminal
[01:33] <Metroshica> zorlac, go into /var/www and do a ls -l, check to see who the owner of index.html is. If it's root, then you either need to change permissions or you need to do it as root
[01:33] <Nach0z> like, the pendrive installed ubuntu 10.04
[01:33] <allquixotic> [PPA Build Question] Is there some way to take my source package and have it build *on my system* exactly the way that it'd get built on the PPA server? I'm basically hunting down dependencies and I'd rather not wait 3 hours for a build if I can run a command to set up a clean chroot jail, fetch the build-depends and build the source package. My build on the PPA keeps failing because I forgot to include build-dependencies that are
[01:33] <allquixotic> already installed on my devel box. I feel so bad wasting PPA cluster build time on issues I could fix locally :/
[01:33] <DrPenguin> Nach0z: the default should be ubuntu, no password
[01:33] <Metroshica> zorlac, go to /var, type in sudo chmod -r zorlac:www-data
[01:34] <Metroshica> zorlac, er, sudo chmod -r zorlac:www-data www
[01:34] <Kieraan> zorlac: open terminal and run that command Metroshica said ^
[01:34] <Clayman1000x> I enter the command "lsusb" and my Netgear WNA3100 wireless usb adapter is listed, I enter the command "iwconfig" and it sys no wireless connection, how do I install ndiswrapper?
[01:34] <Metroshica> zorlac, that will make it so you are the owner, but the group is www-data, so apache can still make edits, after you do the chmod, still in /var, type in sudo chmod -r 775 www, that will give apache permission as well
[01:35] <DrPenguin> Clayman1000x: sudo apt-get install ndiswrapper? you still ned the inf from the driver though
[01:35] <Nach0z> DrPenguin, there's no default anything. nothing's listed in the thing, it just says "hit tab to edit options" or something
[01:35] <DrPenguin> Nach0z: hmm.. thats… weird
[01:36] <Nach0z> it's really weird. I can't figure out what's goin on
[01:36] <vouth> DrPenguin: Oh, hmm.
[01:36] <vouth> DrPenguin: I have no idea how to do that. :-P All I'm doing is running ./configure :-D
[01:37] <DrPenguin> vouth: OHHH so your not even making the driver yet
[01:37] <vouth> DrPenguin: Nope, didn't even get that far! :-P
[01:38] <DrPenguin> vouth: do you have libc6-dev installed?
[01:38] <OerHeks> Clayman1000x, askubuntu has the answer > http://askubuntu.com/questions/48563/could-anyone-help-me-get-my-netgear-wna3100-broadcom-bcm43231-wireless-adapter
[01:39] <Nach0z> DrPenguin: you were saying I could just dd the iso onto the pendrive, do you know how to reference a USB drive in cygwin for the of field?
[01:39] <DrPenguin> Nach0z: /cygdrive/WINDOWSDRIVELETTER
[01:39] <Clayman1000x> I have Ubuntu 11.10, I need ndiwrapper install, the tarball is on my desktop and it is aslo extracted to a file in my home folder, this file also contains broadcom drivers .inf and .sys.
[01:39] <DrPenguin> so, under the /cygdrive directory, you will see all the drive letters of your win drives, so juse the appropriate one from there
[01:39] <K1rk> Anyone have a 560 Fermi nvidia card running more than 2 monitors?
[01:39] <AzoteLogiko> s
[01:40] <DrPenguin> K1rk: I dont, but I know X server, what happens when you try to do dual? and xrandr or xinerama?
[01:40] <K1rk> I have this weird issue with mine.  When I add monitors to DVI ports other than the top left, they all appear in Linux, but it's merging them all into one device it's calling "GML GM-QUADRANT".
[01:40] <Nach0z> DrPenguin: says it's a directory. no can do.
[01:40] <edbian> Clayman1000x, that is not a question, ndiswrapper and ndiswrapper-gtk are in the repos, are you sure you need ndiswrapper at all?
[01:40] <DrPenguin> Nach0z: OH! you cant do it like that.. you would need to do it to the raw drive
[01:40] <thornhill> how do I remove windows from the bootloader options?
[01:40] <K1rk> DrPenguin: I can use the two+ monitors as one monitor, but I have monitors of different resolutions so I want my nVidia driver to treat them as separate displays.
[01:40] <DrPenguin> thornhill: you need to edit grub
[01:40] <edbian> thornhill, Is windows still installed?
[01:40] <DrPenguin> K1rk: But what Extension, xrandr or xinerama?
[01:41] <thornhill> How do I edit grub? Yes Windows is still installed
[01:41] <K1rk> DrPenguin: Xrandr, but using the nVidia driver, so I can't open the Ubuntu Monitors tool.
[01:41] <DrPenguin> K1rk: For eparate displays.. you can use Xinerama
[01:41] <DrPenguin> theres also Nvidia twinview, but im not familiar with that
[01:41] <edbian> thornhill, you edit /etc/default/grub   but if you take it off the menu you won't be able to boot windows anymore.  Is this what you want?
[01:42] <tomodachi> K1rk: are you using ubunut?
[01:42] <K1rk> DrPenguin: I don't think I have explained myself well enough.  I have 3 monitors. But 2 of the monitors are showing up as 1 monitor with a resolution of 3840x1080, so even with using Xinerama etc, it's treating those 2 as 1 monitor... and it's WEIRD.
[01:42] <vouth> DrPenguin: Yes, I do have libc6-dev installed.
[01:42] <DrPenguin> K1rk: that doesnt make sense.. show me your Xorg.conf
[01:42] <DrPenguin> vouth: look at the configure file, see where or how its looking for libc.a
[01:43] <vouth> DrPenguin: I tried adding a line /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/xen/ to /etc/ld.so.conf and then running ldconfig but I got the same error.
[01:43] <thornhill> edbian: yes, that's what I want, but can't I just comment out the line and add it back in if I so desire at a later date?
[01:43] <DrPenguin> vouth: just to make sure.. are you a 64 or 32bit OS?
[01:43] <Clayman1000x> no staff?
[01:43] <K1rk> DrPenguin: https://goput.it/z4u.txt is my xorg.conf
[01:43] <edbian> thornhill, yes, comment out the line and run sudo update-grub
[01:43] <vouth> DrPenguin: 32bit
[01:43] <OerHeks> Clayman1000x, askubuntu has the answer > http://askubuntu.com/questions/48563/could-anyone-help-me-get-my-netgear-wna3100-broadcom-bcm43231-wireless-adapter
[01:44] <DrPenguin> K1rk: X is probably just barfing when it tries to autoconfigure.. X isnt good at autoprobing / configuring for proprietary drivers
[01:44] <K1rk> DrPenguin: Also take a look at this.  https://goput.it/m98.png
[01:44] <DrPenguin> K1rk: you should manually set it up in your X Server how you want it to be
[01:44] <thornhill> edbian: thanks!
[01:44] <vouth> DrPenguin: the other line in /etc/ld.so.conf is include /etc/ld.so.conf.d/*.conf.
[01:44] <edbian> thornhill, sure, try it and make sure it works
[01:44] <werty9d> google asks for password from me for using image editor on android . what the heck? :)
[01:44] <vouth> DrPenguin: IN that folder are GL.conf@  i686-linux-gnu.conf  libasound2.conf  libc.conf
[01:45] <edbian> thornhill, My instructions are from memory
[01:45] <thornhill> I don't see windows in the file
[01:45] <DrPenguin> werty9d: this isnt the android irc
[01:45] <edbian> thornhill, mmmm, yeah I think it's more complicated than that
[01:45] <edbian> thornhill, what do you have in /etc/grub/ ?
[01:45] <pnorman> I'm getting errors when I try to use a drive connected to my SAS/SATA card. The errors are unhandled error code, hostbyte=DID_BAD_TARGET driverbyte=DRIVER_OK (see http://paste.ubuntu.com/778157/ for more). The card is a supermicro AOC-SAS2LP-MV8 using a Marvell 88SE9480. Any suggestions for what to do? I have not yet installed drivers. The Supermicro FTP site has drivers for Redhat, Fedora, SUSE and CentOS.
[01:46] <DrPenguin> pnorman: if there isnt a driver pkg available for ubuntu.. you can probably use alien to convert the rpm into a deb
[01:46] <Muggotronica> Hello, I am trying to configure a computer to  have multiple monitors, it is working, but there are a few things I want to change.  First off, on one screen when windows are maximized they go off the screen, and second I want to set each monitor as a seperate desktop.  How can I establish this configuration?
[01:46] <thornhill> edbian: I'm not sure, what are we looking for? I have /etc/grub.d folder...
[01:46] <DrPenguin> Muggotronica: you need Xinerama for that
[01:46] <troll_> UBUNTU IS DEPRICATED.
[01:46] <pnorman> DrPenguin: Would the lack of the driver package potentially cause these errors?
[01:46] <troll_> UBUNTU IS DEPRICATED.
[01:46] <K1rk> Muggotronica: If you have nVidia graphics the proprietary nVidia drivers have tools which (in my experience) will make configuration work great and easy. However I am here because I'm having trouble with the drivers & my new Fermi 560. lol
[01:46] <edbian> thornhill, sorry typo, /etc/grub.d/ contains files.  Each file is a thing in the grub menu that can be booted
[01:46] <DrPenguin> pnorman: 	 well if you dont have the driver.. you cant expect it to work
[01:46] <edbian> wow
[01:47] <pnorman> DrPenguin: Some cards have support built into the kernel
[01:47] <DrPenguin> pnorman: this one obviously doesnt?
[01:47] <Muggotronica> DrPenguin: K1rk: How do I find out what video hardware I have and please direct me to some specific information about Xinerama.
[01:47] <edbian> thornhill, I'm researching
[01:47] <DrPenguin> Muggotronica: lspci | grep VGA will tell us the card
[01:47] <K1rk> DrPenguin: I disagree that Xinerama is needed. on nVidia cards, there's nVidia TwinView which will do the same thing without the need to disable Compiz effects.
[01:48] <K1rk> Xinerama may be needed on ATI cards
[01:48] <werty9d> hehe check the tickets on card :)
[01:48] <K1rk> I'm less familiar with ATI
[01:48] <DrPenguin> K1rk: Well, as I said earlier, I do not know about Twinview, Ive only used Xinerama and Xrandr
[01:48] <troll_> UBUNTU IS DEPRICATED AND ANNIHILATED/
[01:48] <DrPenguin> werty9d: stop spamming the channel with random mesages
[01:48] <DrPenguin> troll_: SHUT UP
[01:48] <DrPenguin> God what is with the random people here
[01:48] <xangua> DrPenguin: don't feed
[01:48] <pnorman> DrPenguin: It has some support, but may not be complete
[01:49] <e2b04836> dont feed the troll dude
[01:49] <K1rk> pnorman: Can you describe your configuration to me?  You have a single GPU with two DVI ports and two monitors hooked up yes?
[01:49] <Muggotronica> DrPenguin: It is an Intel graphics card.
[01:49] <Nach0z> hey DrPenguin, gotta bug you one more time. How do I refresh the list of hard drives in fdisk?
[01:49] <troll_> UBUNTU, HAS GOT GRAPHICS PROBLEMS. IT IS  DEPRICATED.
[01:49] <DrPenguin> Nach0z: refresh the list? fdisk should just show you what the kernel sees
[01:49] <vouth> DrPenguin: In GL.conf is /usr/lib/fglrx. In i686-linux-gnu.conf http://wklej.se/5640 In libasound2.conf is /usr/lib/alsa-lib. In libc.conf are 2 lines: "# libc default configuration" and "/usr/local/lib"
[01:49] <DrPenguin> Muggotronica: ok.. so I think Xinerama is the way there..
[01:49] <Nach0z> hrm. so if I had my sata drive unplugged...
[01:49] <werty9d> yeh ubuntu is alot depricated troll but what isnt :)
[01:49] <pnorman> K1rk: Were you intending to ask me that?
[01:50] <K1rk> Oh sorry Muggotronica I think I nick called someone else instead of you.
[01:50] <pksadiq> troll_: just say whats the problem, my be someone here can help
[01:50] <K1rk> pnorman: No I think I meant Muggotronica. been long day.
[01:50] <edbian> thornhill, Read number 7 here
[01:50] <troll_> UBUNTU IS PRETTY MUCH DEPRICATED.
[01:50] <vouth> troll_: we're obviously Ubuntu users here, if you're just going to insult it you probably won't get any help fixing whatever complaints you have about it.
[01:50] <hanasaki> the most current clamav is not detecting this virus:  is there an update that will? TR/Spy.ZBot.JD
[01:51] <edbian> thornhill, removing one thing from grub 2 is a pain in the butt now!
[01:51] <Nach0z> troll_: it's spelled "deprecated"
[01:51] <K1rk> DrPenguin: I believe, in my research while working on my monitors project recently, that Xinerama will have to be fixed or depriciated in future releases, as it is not compatible with Compiz, and I believe Unity is a compiz based desktop. lol
[01:51] <e2b04836> l0l
[01:51] <Nach0z> :P
[01:51] <troll_> UBUNTU IS DEPRICATED, ...
[01:52] <musl> heh, correcting a troll's spelling is like pissing in te wind.
[01:52] <DrPenguin> K1rk: Well, X is being deprecated, Wayland may be able to do all this cute stuff
[01:52] <Muggotronica> K1rk: DrPenguin: I think I have missed a post or something, I have no experience with Ximerama.
[01:52] <K1rk> DrPenguin: Wayland?  I haven't heard of that.
[01:52] <tonsofpcs> how do I install l2tp for network manager?
[01:52] <DrPenguin> K1rk: Its supposed to be a new Protocol that replaces X
[01:52] <edbian> Wayland is vaporware
[01:52] <Muggotronica> K1rk: #wayland
[01:52] <tonsofpcs> I triedd xl2tpn and that's apparently not the right package
[01:52] <intok> How can I force what GPU is the default? I've got a craptacular Dell that doesn't have a BIOS option to disable the IGP, I've got a PCI GPU(Geforce 6200/NV44a) but some full screen games like Braid and the terminal shells accessed by ctrl+alt+F* combos give just a blank screen.
[01:53] <pksadiq> can I enlarge the filesystem created by ubuntu Wubi installer ?
[01:53] <xangua> pksadiq: no
[01:53] <DrPenguin> Internet13: force what GPU is the default? your dell has dual GPUs?
[01:53] <tonsofpcs> intok: sounds like a framebuffer/no-framebuffer issue
[01:53] <Nach0z> DrPenguin: got another issue now. The ubuntu is hanging on the purple screen with the dots... hitting alt-tab is telling me "unable to open /dev/sda" and glib-warning getpwuid_r() failed due to unknown user id 0
[01:54] <werty9d> pks.. there is partition editors that can do it
[01:54] <DrPenguin> crap not Internet13, intok, your dell has dual gpus?
[01:54] <thornhill> edbian: read number 7?
[01:54] <bile_mchn> Nach0z: press the 's' keyto skip mounting.
[01:55] <K1rk> DrPenguin: I have never written an xorg.conf before from scratch but I am willing to try. Is there a command I can run to ask my video card what its monitors are?
[01:55] <Nach0z> bile_mchn: nothing's happening. :s
[01:55] <edbian> thornhill, ah, sorry didn't paste the link.  Here it is: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1195275
[01:55] <edbian> thornhill, read number 7 there on how to remove something from the boot menu
[01:55] <bile_mchn> :/
[01:56] <Billit> I have a strange process eating my memory
[01:56] <bile_mchn> Nach0z: spam it?
[01:56] <DrPenguin> K1rk: your gonna have to rely on either your xorg.0.log or your nvidia-settings manager
[01:56] <Billit> .ruby.bin
[01:56] <Billit> How do I find out what it is?
[01:56] <Nach0z> bile_mchn: killing my keyboard. nothing.
[01:56] <edbian> Billit, that's the ruby programming language.  It's some program that is written in ruby that is running right now
[01:56] <bile_mchn> :/
[01:56] <DrPenguin> Billit: google?
[01:56] <Billit> Ya did it
[01:56] <Billit> I uninstall ruby
[01:56] <Billit> Still it runs
[01:56] <K1rk> DrPenguin: I can't trust my Nvidia Settings manager... it's the one making up lies about my monitors.
[01:57] <Nach0z> Billit: kill -9 $(pidof .ruby.bin) ?
[01:57] <Billit> At least I think I did (apt-get remove ruby)
[01:57] <Nach0z> :s
[01:57] <K1rk> DrPenguin: I will take a look at the xorg logs, that may actually be useful.
[01:57] <Billit> It starts every boot
[01:57] <DrPenguin> K1rk: its not making up lies, its just looking at how X is currently configured
[01:57] <Billit> kill -9 is temporary
[01:57] <bile_mchn> Nach0z: your ubuntu  is on that partition then?
[01:57] <Nach0z> bile_mchn: nope. it's on a usb.
[01:57] <Billit> its a daemon of somekind
[01:57] <bile_mchn> k
[01:57] <K1rk> DrPenguin: As far as I know, X can't make 2 monitors turn into 1. I have a feeling that's something my chipset manufacturer is doing...
[01:58] <DrPenguin> K1rk: X can do that if its using Xrandr
[01:58] <K1rk> I'm tempted to put my Windows 7 drive in this machine and see what it has to say about this card.
[01:58] <K1rk> This is a brand new card, just got it today.
[01:58] <Billit> Is there a way I can find more about a process in Ubuntu
[01:58] <Billit> given the pid/name
[01:58] <DrPenguin> Billit: pid doesnt tell you anything. The only pid your guaraanteed on is init being 1
[01:58] <Billit> its running as root and as a daemon
[01:58] <edbian> Billit, PID is meaning less  .  I'm googling the name
[01:59] <bile_mchn> Nach0z: reinstall.
[02:00] <edbian> Billit, the name ruby.bin is not bringing up anything on google
[02:00] <DrPenguin> K1rk: you need to understand here, its not the "monitors" so much being combined, but its the Screens, as in X Screens
[02:00] <pksadiq> !find ruby.bin | Billit
[02:00] <Nach0z> bile_mchn: just tried with my harddrive unplugged and the issue doesn't happen... but now when I plug the hard drive back in, the USB-installd Ubuntu doesn't see the hard drive. ideas?
[02:00] <K1rk> DrPenguin: Just for kicks I'm gonna try this with an older Live CD I had laying around.
[02:01] <intok> DrPenguin it has an IGP, an i810 based GPU that has no working driver aside from Vesa, I added an old PCI Geforce 6200 I had collecting dust, as before the BIOS doesn't have an option to disable the IGP, is there a way to make it be completely ignored in linux?
[02:01] <Billit> f*ck it, I'm gonna do a grep "/usr/bin/ruby" and find every damn script that uses ruby
[02:01] <K1rk> DrPenguin: I'm wondering if the nouveau driver might be better suited but I don't want to uninstall my nvidia to find out. lol
[02:01] <Billit> thanks anyways
[02:01] <edbian> Billit, haha :)
[02:01] <bile_mchn> Nach0z: is it listed in /dev?
[02:01] <DrPenguin> intok: Ah got it,, you cant disable the interrupts
[02:01] <Nach0z> bile_mchn: only thing in /dev is sda and sda1
[02:02] <DrPenguin> intok: what you might be able to do is, you will still need to rely on the internal when your booting, but if you configure X to use your other video card (by configuring the device section), you should be able to use the other gfx card once your booted into the OS
[02:02] <bile_mchn> Nach0z: then kernel can't detect your drive.  Swithc your machine off and check all the HW is connected.
[02:02] <Nach0z> dadgummit. that's not good then. 'cuz the hardware being unplugged is the only thing that lets the usb-ubuntu boot past the mounting thing.
[02:04] <intok> DrPenguin ok, so how do I do that?
[02:04] <thornhill> edbian: my motivation is to simply remove it as an option for the staff at this nonprofit, while leaving the Windows partition intact, since they don't have Windows recovery CDs. Any suggestions to make booting Windows impossible?
[02:05] <DrPenguin> intok: you need to reconfigure the device section. basically its a matter of putting the PCI id of the better video card in the Device section and specifying the driver module to load
[02:06] <Nach0z> running a diskcheck. this is ridiculous.
[02:06] <edbian> thornhill, what you're talking about is possible.  I suggesting installing the gui tool that number 7 suggests
[02:06] <Jordan_U> edbian: thornhill: You should try to avoid editing anything in /etc/grub.d/ if at all possible. And it's not needed here.
[02:06] <vouth> DrPenguin: I tried adding the path to the folder containing one of those libc.a files to libc.conf and then running sudo ldconfig, but it still didn't work. Here's my complete config.log: http://wklej.se/af18
[02:07] <bile_mchn> Nach0z: you could try investing in a hotswappable sata hub or USB caddy and try mounting your hdd that way.
[02:07] <edbian> Jordan_U, what do you suggest doing?  Did you see the link I posted?  It does not recommend editing /etc/grub.d/ files directly
[02:07] <Nach0z> bile_mchn: that's a long-term fix but I need to get this system back online today. like in the next two hours kinda today.
[02:08] <DrPenguin> vouth: hmm.. can you check gcc's search path? maybe thats the issue
[02:08] <Jordan_U> thornhill: Add GRUB_DISABLE_OS_PROBER=true to /etc/default/grub then run "sudo update-grub".
[02:08] <bile_mchn> Nach0z: if kernel can't add your device in /dev, you may be in big trouble.
[02:09] <Nach0z> I'm trying to get an alternate ubuntu install running so I can just copy over the sudoers file
[02:09] <bile_mchn> Nach0z: have you checked the jumper is correctly set on the back of the drive and that it spins up?
[02:09] <Nach0z> yes, it does. the hard drive boots fine on its own
[02:09] <Nach0z> it's just that nobody's in the sudoers file because I made a rookie mistake
[02:09] <DrPenguin> Nach0z: why dont you jsut manually rebuild your sudoers file?
[02:10] <Nach0z> got no idea how to do that. there's NOTHING in that file right now
[02:10] <DrPenguin> Nach0z: google?
[02:10] <Nach0z> I can't even boot into safemode and drop into netroot because it asks for a password
[02:10] <DrPenguin> theres definitely information out there on sudoers..
[02:10] <edbian> thornhill, Jordan_U :P
[02:10] <DrPenguin> I can probably get you a copy of the sudoers from my schools ubuntu server..
[02:11] <Nach0z> DrPenguin: Gettin the new sudoers file isn't an issue, it's getting the new file onto the dang filesystem.
[02:11] <Nach0z> I don't know how to overwrite it booting from the hard drive since nothing is in the sudoers file, that's why I've been working on getting the USB Ubuntu working so I can do it that way.
[02:11] <DrPenguin> Well, first off, why are you not just using a straight up supported ubuntu release?
[02:12] <DrPenguin> supported by the pendrive
[02:12] <troll_> .
[02:12] <Nach0z> .... I'm using 10.04 right now
[02:12] <Nach0z> not the mini.iso
[02:12] <DrPenguin> you dont have a cd?
[02:12] <Nach0z> nope :/
[02:12] <Nach0z> none that I can find. that was my first thought.
[02:12] <DrPenguin> wait
[02:12] <DrPenguin> what does sudoers have to do with determining what you boot from
[02:12] <DrPenguin> thats a firmware level thing
[02:13] <Nach0z> DrPenguin: well, how am I supposed to put myself back in the sudoers file if I can't sudo nano /etc/sudoers ?
[02:13] <Nach0z> or if I can't sudo mv newsudofile /etc/sudoers ?
[02:13] <DrPenguin> Nach0z: you cant boot 10.04 from the flash key, mount your ubu drive, and copy it over?
[02:14] <johnny_> hi,  trying to figure out why the unlock button is greyed out when adding a new user
[02:14] <johnny_> or trying to add a new user*
[02:14] <DrPenguin> johnny_: are you doing it from the current user? you probably dont have privilages
[02:14] <Nach0z> that's the issue, DrPenguin. lol. the USB key wont' boot with the hard drive plugged in, and if I boot without it plugged in and plug it in post-boot, it don't show.
[02:14] <Nach0z> So I ran a file system check to make sure that wasn't the reason it wasn't booting
[02:14] <DrPenguin> Nach0z: that doesnt make any sense
[02:14] <johnny_> it says "administrator" under the account i'm loggedi n as
[02:15] <Nach0z> DrPenguin: there was a file system error that was making the USB ubuntu hang when it tried to mount the hard drive.
[02:15] <DrPenguin> johnny_: have you tried doing it from root or from terminal?
[02:15] <johnny_> i do'nt know the command
[02:15] <Nach0z> this is a seven-year-old desktop computer that's never had maintenance. it does all sorts of weird crap. lol.
[02:15] <DrPenguin> johnny_: google?
[02:15] <johnny_> but i also assume it's related to why i can't toggle "enable wireless"
[02:15] <DrPenguin> Seriously, have people here NEVER heard of google? for real
[02:15] <johnny_> google for which ? i know about useradd.. but i want to bring up the google
[02:15] <johnny_> err up the gui
[02:15] <DrPenguin> Nach0z: the usb key shouldnt be tyring to mount it until you tell it to
[02:16] <bile_mchn> DrPenguin: some people do not like google.
[02:17] <johnny_> all i can see is about user-admin and i don't have that comand
[02:17] <DrPenguin> bile_mchn: then they can use bing or yahoo.. no excuse for being lazy
[02:17] <Nach0z> DrPenguin: dunno why it is then. but yeah, I just got it to boot successfully after doing the file system check, edited my sudoers file, gonna get myself back online now.
[02:17] <Nach0z> woot.
[02:17] <pksadiq> !google | DrPenguin
[02:17] <thornhill> Jordan_U: thanks
[02:17] <johnny_> i've already looked.. that's why i'm here
[02:17] <vouth> DrPenguin: How can I check that search path?
[02:17] <DrPenguin> pksadiq: oh dont give me that, theres no such thing as "google-fu" you have an issue, you google it. plain and simple
[02:17] <johnny_> DrPenguin: i already did
[02:18] <johnny_> and i only see crap about users-admin and i don't have such a commaind in 11.10
[02:18] <DrPenguin> vouth: theres some command in gcc.. I think its.. —print-search-directories? it should be in the -h output or in the man page
[02:18] <rypervenche> johnny_: Did you try "sudo user-admin" ?
[02:18] <pksadiq> DrPenguin: of course there are, like quoting, "[", etc :)
[02:18] <e2b04836> johnny_: do you have sudo access on the account?
[02:18] <intok> DrPenguin you mean my xorg.conf? Cause all I see is the 6200 http://pastebin.com/MW7EhuzL But in LSHW it's still listed as 82845G/GL[Brookdale-G]/GE http://pastebin.com/tyrx2N1T
[02:18] <johnny_> rypervenche: why should i? it has an unlock dialog
[02:18] <johnny_> that's the whole point of policykit
[02:18] <Nach0z> now I just gotta figure out why it's not booting headless >:F
[02:19] <rypervenche> johnny_: Maybe it's not in your PATH.
[02:19] <DrPenguin> intok: thats your intel card, not your nvidia card.. does the system not see it? try lspci | grep VGA, you should get 2 entries
[02:19] <johnny_> it should be if i am supposed to be able to unlock it once the dialog is open
[02:19] <johnny_> also.. it opens as me just fine.. i just can't change it
[02:19] <e2b04836> johnny_: because you need to be root to make changes thus you need sudo access
[02:20] <johnny_> no you don't
[02:20] <johnny_> that's the point of policytkit
[02:20] <rypervenche> johnny_: Have you tried doing it?
[02:20] <johnny_> if i wanted to run useradd then yes i'd have to use sudo
[02:20] <johnny_> i think policykit is busted
[02:20] <intok> DrPenguin all I got was:  01:06.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV44A [GeForce 6200] (rev a1)
[02:21] <johnny_> i want it to work the way it should.. even if the sudo thing did work.. that's now it its supposed to
[02:21] <johnny_> not*
[02:21] <DrPenguin> intok: .. It doesnt even see your other car
[02:21] <DrPenguin> d
[02:21] <rypervenche> johnny_: I would try our suggestions instead of arguing, lest you wish people to stop helping you.
[02:21] <johnny_> rypervenche: i want to fix policykit
[02:21] <johnny_> i don't care about that particular dialog
[02:21] <DrPenguin> intok: some BIOS automatically redirect interrupts
[02:21] <johnny_> i just figured that'd be a good place to start, but let's just focus on policykit
[02:22] <johnny_> so.. the nm applet doesn't let me toggle "enable networking"
[02:22] <johnny_> and i know it used to work in previous versions of ubuntu
[02:22] <K1rk> johnny_: We have that issue at my work sometimes with student netbooks...
[02:23] <K1rk> johnny_: The solution is to rm -R /var/lib/NetworkManager/NetworkManager.state and then restart network-manager
[02:23] <johnny_> did that already
[02:23] <johnny_> i'll try again though
[02:23] <intok> DrPenguin yet if I hit ctrl+alt+f1 or run a game like Braid I get a black screen, at startup the bios posts to the 6200, but once Linux starts booting it goes blank till I hit the Nvidia driver splash pre login prompt
[02:23] <vouth> DrPenguin: It's --print-search-dirs. :-) No idea what to make of the output though!! http://wklej.se/ef63
[02:23] <Jon--_> synclient reports only one finger on my touchpad, even when I use two. Am I out of luck getting multi-touch scrolling to work? Ubuntu 11.04
[02:23] <Jon--_> I disconnected if anyone replied earlier ^
[02:23] <johnny_> same diff .. still greyed out
[02:23] <DrPenguin> intok: its only using the one nvidia card
[02:23] <johnny_> that's why i think that policykit is screwed up
[02:24] <intok> DrPenguin other full screen games like Osmos, NAEV or Aquaria all display on the 6200 though
[02:24] <DrPenguin> vouth: thats basically where all the components of the build process looks for things like libraries and stuff
[02:24] <Canadian1296> johnny_: there is a reason no one is replying to you...
[02:24] <johnny_> you guys obviously don't understand policykit
[02:24] <DrPenguin> intok: dude, ONLY your 6200 is working
[02:24] <DrPenguin> intok: your other card isnt getting an IRQ, it CANT run
[02:24] <blackshirt> is it normal for console-kit-daemon spawned 63 process ??
[02:24] <johnny_> oh.. how am i in ubuntu-unregged
[02:25] <johnny_> blackshirt: yes
[02:25] <johnny_> it looks odd, but that's how it works
[02:25] <DrPenguin> vouth: is libc.a in any of those i686 dirs?
[02:25] <bile_mchn> blackshirt: no, but it depends on what you fed it.
[02:25] <blackshirt> johnny_: why ? i think that was too much
[02:26] <intok> DrPenguin so any ideas on why I can't drop to the shell when crap hits the fan?
[02:26] <Nach0z> Alright. I got one last question for yall before I hit the road. I want my ubuntu 11.04 to boot headlessly, like terminal-only. I thought I had it configured to do that already but it's apparently not working because when I reboot, I get the graphic login screen
[02:26] <johnny_> one for every process that you see
[02:26] <Amd> Hi....What is Network Proxy ?
[02:26] <DrPenguin> intok: probably because something isnt configured right..
[02:26] <bile_mchn> Nach0z: use the server variant
[02:26] <johnny_> blackshirt: pgrep console-kit
[02:26] <Nach0z> bile_mchn: already got it installed and configured, it just started acting up today.
[02:27] <xangua> !nox | Nach0z
[02:27] <vouth> DrPenguin: Yup there's one in /usr/lib/i686-linux-gnu/
[02:27] <Billit> Hey you gourgeous bastards
[02:27] <Billit> I'm back
[02:27] <blackshirt> bile_mchn: if we knowjohnny_: look with pstree
[02:27] <Billit> with another question
[02:27] <justdave> ok, for anyone who saw my question earlier about getting users to not show up on the login screen (postfix in my case) I found it eventally via Google.  Answer is to list the user in the Exclude= line in the [greeter] section in /etc/gdm/custom.conf (which you may have to create)
[02:27] <Canadian1296> Nach0z: if you use the alternate install cd, you can press f4 and choose to install a command line system only
[02:27] <johnny_> ?
[02:27] <Nach0z> thanks xangua, lemme see if it works.
[02:27] <vouth> DrPenguin: Not right under but it's /usr/lib/i686-linux-gnu/xen/libc.a
[02:27] <Billit> How do I disable oneconf-service
[02:27] <johnny_> yes..  but pgrep should only show one
[02:27] <Nach0z> Canadian1296: it's been installed for more than a year. bit late for that part .lol.
[02:27] <blackshirt> johnny_: look with pstree
[02:27] <johnny_> and that's what matters
[02:27] <Billit> I've googled it and found sparse information
[02:27] <johnny_> i know..  that's just what it looks like
[02:27] <Canadian1296> Nach0z: lol i didnt realize :P
[02:27] <xangua> Billit: uninstall it¿
[02:27] <intok> DrPenguin well I've set nothing out of the ordinary, and let the Nvidia driver GUI set the xorg.conf
[02:28] <johnny_> blackshirt: it should grow as you open things
[02:28] <Jordan_U> thornhill: You're welcome.
[02:28] <johnny_> but the important thing is that pgrep or ps ax | grep console-kit show one
[02:28] <Billit> If i try to uninstall it, it automatically tries to uninstall Ubuntu Desktop and Software Center too!
[02:28] <blackshirt> johnny_: it was default, can we change this ?
[02:28] <DrPenguin> vouth: ok, I forget, is that 686 directory in gcc's search path?
[02:28] <johnny_> blackshirt: no
[02:29] <johnny_> ignore it it's working as expected
[02:29] <DrPenguin> intok: thats not enough.. you usally have to edit things both inside and outside the xorg.conf
[02:29] <Nach0z> this is even more unusual. I have ubuntu 11.04 but I'm booting from grub 1.99 rc1 o_0
[02:29] <blackshirt> johnny_: one process, with 63 threads i thinks
[02:29] <johnny_> yes..
[02:29] <johnny_> and it's fine
[02:29] <vouth> DrPenguin: yup
[02:29] <DrPenguin> vouth: that is weird.. lets try this… do you know how to write C programs?
[02:29] <Dexo> hey, anyone ever use Xara Xtreme for Linux?
[02:30] <ryoohki> is there an upgrsde channel?  i upgraded from natty to oneiric and X won't start now
[02:30] <DrPenguin> ryoohki: pastebin /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[02:30] <ryoohki> DrPenguin: thanks!
[02:30] <multipass|2> h
[02:30] <vouth> DrPenguin: nope, no idea. Only PHP and VB.Net (sorry but it's true :-D)!
[02:30] <DrPenguin> vouth: im gonna write you a quick C program, I want you to test somethin for me
[02:31] <Billit> What is Ubuntu-desktop responsible for?
[02:31] <vouth> DrPenguin: And I wouldn't even trust myself with those languages :-P
[02:31] <johnny_> it's a meta-package that handles almost everything gnome
[02:31] <vouth> DrPenguin: Cool, thanks! Just as long as it doesn't format my hard disk or something :-D
[02:31] <DrPenguin> vouth: copy this into some file called whatever.c, http://pastebin.com/t650aVNy
[02:31] <Canadian1296> Billit: in other words the gui...
[02:31] <DrPenguin> vouth: oh ofcourse not
[02:31] <DrPenguin> all it does is print what is in printf to the terminal
[02:31] <blackshirt> console-kit-dae───63*[{console-kit-dae}]
[02:32] <Canadian1296> DrPenguin: XD
[02:32] <Billit> Damnit
[02:32] <Billit> How do I disable oneconf
[02:32] <johnny_> blackshirt: so?
[02:32] <Billit> it eats up all my memory
[02:32] <johnny_> i keep telling you that that is fine :)
[02:32] <merjun32> which is better, openoffice or libreoffice?
[02:32] <ryoohki> DrPenguin: http://paste.ubuntu.com/778193/
[02:32] <blackshirt> johnny_: what reason for this ?
[02:32] <DrPenguin> vouth: do you have it copied?
[02:33] <johnny_> blackshirt: i don't know.. but this is how it's always worked
[02:33] <johnny_> since 5 years ago when it was first created
[02:33] <Amd> Hi...Is network proxy used to share an internet connection ?
[02:33] <johnny_> it's probably one process for each visual thing you see.. applet or open app
[02:33] <johnny_> err one thread*
[02:34] <blackshirt> johnny_ : yeah, this worked for me too
[02:34] <vouth> DrPenguin: hehe, I was just joking. Well no actually. I'm still waiting for a browser to open — Banshee's eating up all my cpu and ram with an import :-D
[02:34] <vouth> DrPenuin: Here it comes…
[02:34] <DrPenguin> ryoohki: .. the log looks ok.. can you do sudo service gdm start?
[02:34] <DrPenguin> ryoohki: restart actually
[02:35] <blackshirt> quote "It maybe the case that console-kit-daemon starts a thread for each console that can theoretically exist. On Linux (/usr/include/linux/vt.h) MAX_NR_CONSOLE is defined to be 63
[02:35] <blackshirt> johnny_: It maybe the case that console-kit-daemon starts a thread for each console that can theoretically exist. On Linux (/usr/include/linux/vt.h) MAX_NR_CONSOLE is defined to be 63
[02:36] <vouth> DrPenguin: Dam this is taking a long time!! Sorry! :-S
[02:37] <DrPenguin> vouth: its cool brah
[02:37] <ryoohki> DrPenguin: startx or gdm works perfectly
[02:38] <johnny_> mine ays 64
[02:38] <johnny_> threads*
[02:39] <DrPenguin> ryoohki: so.. you CAN init the X Server manually but not during boot??
[02:39] <DrPenguin> thats f'ing weid
[02:39] <DrPenguin> s/weid/weird/
[02:39] <ryoohki> DrPenguin: yup
[02:39] <DrPenguin> ryoohki: can you diff the Xorg.0.log with Xorg.0.log.old?
[02:40] <DrPenguin> or just pastebin the new log? either way dont matter
[02:40] <vouth> DrPenguin: done: ~/yougotthatrightyo.c
[02:40] <johnny_> ok.. tried it as a new user and no dice
[02:40] <johnny_> still "enable networking" is greyed out
[02:40] <DrPenguin> vouth: ok, now run gcc -o fubar yougotthatrightyo.c
[02:40] <johnny_> and "enable wireless"
[02:40] <Nach0z> wow. this is messed up. I've tried sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop  AND sudo init 3 and for some reason my ubuntu computer, which doesn't even have the ubuntu-desktop packages installed anymore, is still showing a background and a mouse pointer. any ideas?
[02:41] <ryoohki> DrPenguin: i used "service gdm start" and it worked perfectly
[02:41] <DrPenguin> Nach0z: run levels 2-6 will all have an X Server running
[02:41] <johnny_> oh.. cuz ifupdown managed=false
[02:41] <vouth> DrPenguin: /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lc  collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
[02:41] <Nach0z_> DrPenguin: how do I disable the X server then? I just need some way to prevent it from even starting, and changing the /etc/default/grub to say "quiet splash text" hasn't worked for me.
[02:41] <DrPenguin> vouth: man.. there is something WEIRD with your system
[02:41] <vouth> DrPenguin: (that was on two lines, the second beginning at 'collect2')
[02:42] <vouth> DrPenguin: I hate when that happens. It seems to happen a *lot*. :-(
[02:42] <pSy4130> anybody find a work around for GNOME3 hating onboard ATI cards?
[02:42] <DrPenguin> vouth: I have NEVER seen that happen before
[02:42] <vouth> DrPenguin: just totally random weird sh!t.
[02:42] <DrPenguin> vouth: have you tried reinstalling gcc and build-essential?
[02:42] <vouth> DrPenguin: No idea why. Maybe I should uninstall and then reinstall gcc etc?
[02:43] <vouth> DrPenguin: hehe, great minds think alike :-D
[02:43] <vouth> DrPenguin: no I have not.
[02:43] <vouth> DrPenguin: I guess that's next, so here goes!
[02:43] <DrPenguin> vouth: the next thing I would try would be to, instead of using gcc, to build that c file one at a time. Basically: preprocessor, compiler, assembler, linker
[02:43] <ghostnik11> is there way i can get another firefox instead of firefox 8 in ubuntu or is it safe to just stay with firefox 8
[02:43] <vouth> DrPenguin: before or after the reinstalls?
[02:44] <DrPenguin> vouth: after if you still cant compile my file
[02:44] <johnny_> ghostnik11: best to stick with what ubuntu provides
[02:44] <ryoohki> pSy4130: i too have an onboard ati card
[02:44] <ghostnik11> johnny_: cool thanks will stick with it
[02:44] <vouth> DrPenguin: ok
[02:44] <zorlac> hey im leaning how to write website,  iver installed lammp and apachie2.  i was wondering whree is a good place to store my pictures and other things i wish to use on my site
[02:45] <DrPenguin> vouth: my guess is that the pp, compiler, and assembler shouldnt fail.. but the linker will.. so we may not get anymore info
[02:45] <ryoohki> DrPenguin: is it possible it's the onboard ati card and gnome 3?
[02:45] <DrPenguin> ryoohki: Doesnt make sense, you siad you were able to get the X Server running
[02:46] <ryoohki> DrPenguin: true
[02:46] <ryoohki> DrPenguin: how to debug?
[02:46] <pSy4130> ryoohki: Is your working correctly after jockey installs the recomended driver?
[02:46] <DrPenguin> ryoohki: not much we can do.. the Xorg log was clean as a whistle.. did you do the diff like I asked?
[02:46] <vouth> DrPenguin: Ah. That makes sense. The reinstalls might take a while; removing gcc took VirtualBox along with it :-P
[02:46] <DrPenguin> vouth: oh noez
[02:47] <Jon--> synclient reports only one finger on my touchpad, even when I use two. Am I out of luck getting multi-touch scrolling to work? Ubuntu 11.04
[02:47] <ryoohki> DrPenguin: what does the last line mean "ddxSigGiveUp: Closing log"?
[02:47] <ryoohki> DrPenguin: what diif?  missed it
[02:47] <DrPenguin> ryoohki: diff Xorg.0.log with Xorg.0.log.old
[02:47] <SlayersZ> evening xD
[02:48] <SlayersZ> is  60 dollars too much for a game
[02:48] <multipass|2> would ubuntu server be a good distro to put on my EEE  netbook for a lampstack?
[02:48] <DrPenguin> SlayersZ: !ot
[02:48] <DrPenguin> ...
[02:48] <DrPenguin> !ot
[02:48] <vouth> DrPenguin: lol, howsabout I try to get audio working in the meantime??? :-D
[02:48] <DrPenguin> there we go
[02:49] <DrPenguin> vouth: oh God.. sound is the only thing I hate worse than X Server
[02:49] <Boreeas> Since when are .so files put in the root dir?
[02:49] <vouth> SlayerZ: If it's proprietary, anything's too much. If it's free, nothing could be enough.
[02:50] <vouth> eh, oh well. my profound sentiments were lost on him :-P
[02:50] <e2b04836> lol
[02:50] <vouth> DrPenguin: Hmm, well I think my problem is that I don't have a sound card. That might explain it…
[02:50] <DrPenguin> vouth: that wuld be a good freakin guess
[02:52] <cordor> why
[02:53] <cordor> why zeitgeist-daemon run cat
[02:57] <cordor> help, i can't type once in a while, the focus is still there, just not getting keystroke. i have to switch window back and fore.
[02:57] <johnny_> fixed it
[02:58] <johnny_> DrPenguin: wanna know what it was?
[02:58] <johnny_> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lightdm/+bug/851055
[02:58] <pnorman> DrPenguin: The redhat drivers aren't a rpm
[02:58] <vouth> DrPenguin: done.
[02:58] <johnny_> that's not the error i had, but it was related to that same issue
[02:58] <vouth> DrPenguin: Trying again now…
[02:58] <johnny_> i fixed it by switching to gdm.. i'll update lightdm once they fix it
[02:58] <dot-slash> sorry if it's been asked before but anyone have a link to fix of Ubuntu 10.10 Grub breakage/Fix????
[02:58] <vouth> DrPenguin: Same error.
[02:58] <dot-slash> It's a known bug right?
[02:59] <johnny_> so if anybody wants to know why they can't unlock user admin or enable/disable networking.. that's why
[02:59] <dot-slash> timeout issue needs manual press of enter to boot correctly...
[02:59] <johnny_> DrPenguin: you should hve listened.. instead you thought you knew better..
[02:59] <johnny_> hah
[02:59] <johnny_> treating me like a n00b
[03:00] <johnny_> but really thanks blackshirt.. he put me on the right path with his error
[03:00] <savid> What's the file where you can put modules that you want to be unloaded during suspend?
[03:00] <savid> I remember editing it before and I need to add another module, but I can't remember for the life of me where it is
[03:01] <multipass|2> does ubuntu server come with desktop environment?
[03:01] <DrPenguin> … what the heck?
[03:01] <e2b04836> no, no it doesn't
[03:02] <DrPenguin> I hate idiots like johnny_...
[03:02] <Jon--> multipass|2, I believe you are looking for this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_Home_Server_2011
[03:02] <DrPenguin> vouth: crud man.. I really dont know whats wrong.. Id hate to tell you to reinstall your OS.. but..
[03:02] <e2b04836> lol
[03:02] <lotus-blade> ok I have a small video problem.  my monitor is saying out of range
[03:02] <LtHummus> does ntpdate keep a log anywhere?  i have it set to run every hour via cron (I think) but it doesn't appear to actually run
[03:03] <DrPenguin> lotus-blade: is your X server specify a mode (resolution optionally with refresh rate) that your monitor doesnt support?
[03:03] <multipass|2> does ubuntu server have unity/gnome? or just command line
[03:03] <Canadian1296> Jon--: Im pretty sure that's NOT what he's looking for
[03:03] <Canadian1296> multipass|2: command line
[03:03] <e2b04836> multipass|2: it uses command line
[03:03] <multipass|2> ah ok thanks
[03:04] <Jon--> Canadian1296, Not very good with sarcasm, are ya?
[03:04] <Canadian1296> Jon--: Yes, I know it was sarcasm… :P
[03:04] <com641> lol
[03:05] <lotus-blade> DrPenguin: there is no lines about resolution of frequancy
[03:05] <tenX> multipass|2: server 2011?
[03:05] <DrPenguin> lotus-blade: can you look at the Xorg.0.log and see what X probes from the ddc?
[03:05] <e2b04836> LtHummus: check /var/log/cron to see if it is actually running ntpdate doesn't log
[03:05] <multipass|2> what tenX?
[03:06] <LtHummus> e2b04836: /var/log/cron doesn't seem to exist....
[03:07] <vouth> DrPenguin: wow, weird, I just got logged out totally randomly.
[03:08] <vouth> DrPenguin: that's the second time that's happened since yesterday
[03:08] <tenX> multipass|2: referring to you mentioning sbs 2011
[03:09] <vouth> DrPenguin: How would I go about building it one step at a time?? Sorry I'm so ignorant :-D
[03:09] <DrPenguin> vouth: nah man your not ignorant, your just not a c programmer
[03:09] <tenX> multipass|2: admittingly having forgot my initial motivation
[03:10] <DrPenguin> vouth: I honestly dont think thats gonna matter.. like I said.. I think your gonna have to reinstall your system.. I have no clue what the issue is
[03:10] <multipass|2> tenX:  idk what ur talking about but ok =)
[03:10] <lotus-blade> DrPenguin: i will pasebin it to you
[03:10] <_cb> Whenever I try to play games on Yahoo firefox errors out. Looks as if Yahoo thinks Firefox is Chrome
[03:11] <e2b04836> LtHummus: cat /var/log/syslog |grep cron
[03:12] <tenX> multipass|2: thats likely the best way to deal with it
[03:12] <vouth> DrPenguin: wow. crap. I've put so much work into getting this system just the way I like it, and now to just have to scrap it all :-S There is no way that's happening :-D
[03:12] <lotus-blade> DrPenguin: http://pastebin.com/qLwr42mx  I real can not make sence of it
[03:12] <multipass|2> tenX: are you on drugs?
[03:12] <e2b04836> *giggles*
[03:13] <tenX> multipass|2: hmm. never thought about that :)
[03:14] <DrPenguin> lotus-blade: duuuuude, your X is freaking out
[03:14] <vouth> DrPenguin: what's the recommended procedure for a badly broken system?
[03:15] <e2b04836> rm -rf /
[03:15] <vouth> just give up and reinstall?
[03:15] <DrPenguin> vouth: reinstall? lol whenever my system gets f'ed up I usually switch distros
[03:15] <lotus-blade> that is what the default config did
[03:15] <DrPenguin> lotus-blade: pastebin your xorg.conf
[03:15] <vouth> e2b04836: was that to me? :-D
[03:15] <e2b04836> vouth: yes
[03:15] <vouth> e2b04836: lol
[03:16] <pksadiq> e2b04836: please better not to say that, somebody might try
[03:16] <allquixotic> c_smith: FYI; https://launchpad.net/~smcnam/+archive/rbpitch-release
[03:16] <DrPenguin> pksadiq: no offense, but people shouldnt exec what they dont understand
[03:16] <DrPenguin> pksadiq: this isnt Windows.. this is Linux. You actually need to know what your doing to survive
[03:17] <e2b04836> it'll refuse to rm / anyway without an extra arg
[03:17] <lotus-blade> DrPenguin: http://pastebin.com/nGYrLD2W
[03:17] <pksadiq> DrPenguin: well, people should try, a hacker is one who creates wood from axe, experimenting all the time ;)
[03:18] <DrPenguin> pksadiq: I agree people should try.. try to learn. Not just blindly exec code fragments like a script kiddie
[03:18] <vouth> DrPenguin: hehe, that seems a little extreme. What I'm trying (and failing) to do in the long term is start yet another ubuntu spinoff distro. Since I can't even get one install to work right — much less many — I don't think it's *quite* ready yet…
[03:18] <DrPenguin> vouth: i dont think it is as much.. why would anyone use a tool they dont understand? your just asking for trouble
[03:18] <tenX> DrPenguin: impossible
[03:19] <phillip_> anyone to help me install printer driver? I downloaded my driver from lexmark and when it goes through the setup process it asks for root admin password, I am set up as an administrator but wont accept my password
[03:19] <DrPenguin> tenX:  definitely not impossible
[03:19] <DrPenguin> phillip_: but your not root
[03:19] <tenX> DrPenguin: understanding about anything you execute?
[03:19] <phillip_> how do i get access to root?
[03:19] <vouth> DrPenguin: I was talking about switching distros.
[03:19] <vouth> phillip_: sudo
[03:20] <DrPenguin> tenX: dude, when I learned linux, I ran it in a VM for a month before I was comfortable enough to install it as a dual boot
[03:20] <DrPenguin> tenX: I, like many others who in my position would not have much linux knowledge, could EASILY kill their system if they just tried to install it willy nilly wihtout understanding it
[03:21] <vouth> when I learned Linux I didn't know what a VM was. I just installed it off a free CD of Fedora Core 1, right over Window$ ME — which I had just as little clue how to use.
[03:21] <lotus-blade> DrPenguin: this is what I just found out about the monitor: fh:30~80kHz, fv:50~85Hz
[03:22] <tenX> DrPenguin: dude, when i started there were no vms, in my case not even a x driver for my video card forcing me to go plain black white from the beginning on
[03:22] <DrPenguin> lotus-blade: looking at your Xorg log,  X is having a serious issue probing your EDID
[03:22] <DrPenguin> tenX: did you start in the 1900s? We have had virtualization and Hypervisors since the 1970s I believe
[03:23] <DrPenguin> But even if not, thats still no excuse to do something wihtout understanding what your doing
[03:23] <tenX> DrPenguin: think we at cross-purposes
[03:23] <tenX> DrPenguin: if thats the right way to express it
[03:23] <symptom> anyone know how to downgrade a package, and/or reset the dependencies
[03:23] <symptom> ?
[03:23] <DrPenguin> tenX: I think you might mean cross roads? Ive never heard of cross purposes
[03:23] <zacarias> how do you install Ubuntu on a tiny Acer Aspire One 533 or on an Asus eeepc 1015 px netbooks?
[03:24] <e2b04836> Flannel: sorry, i'll refrain from posting commands like that in future :3
[03:24] <zacarias> Actually, how do you install it on a netbook?
[03:24] <Flannel> e2b04836: Thanks.  Malicious commands aren't ever appreciated, even if they're 'non-functional'
[03:24] <Jon--> zacarias, usb boot
[03:24] <tenX> DrPenguin: translator wars ;)
[03:24] <tenX> DrPenguin: Basically think we're on the same track
[03:24] <DrPenguin> tenX: in this instance, I dont wanna correct you, just not sure whatcha mean :P
[03:24] <tenX> DrPenguin: same here
[03:24] <zacarias> Jon--: is there a link with installation instructions?
[03:25] <oplacker> How fast does a meteor or lauched rocket or satellite have to go to disintegrate completely in the Earth's upper atmosphere?
[03:25] <DrPenguin> !ot
[03:25] <Jon--> zacarias, http://bit.ly/swPzgm
[03:26] <Jon--> zacarias, sarcasm aside, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick
[03:27] <zacarias> Jon--: Thanks, no problem with sarcasm
[03:28] <Bublik2002> how do i know when a bug is resolved? like this one for example: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-power-manager/+bug/882160
[03:29] <Bublik2002> is there a way to fix it?
[03:29] <oplacker> what's a good way to brute force into an ubuntu server
[03:29] <troll_> hahahah
[03:29] <troll_> are you being serious?
[03:30] <oplacker> yes
[03:30] <oplacker> There are several ports, including SSH, VNC, and Apache
[03:30] <troll_> well.. bruteforce it..
[03:30] <oplacker> the problem with ssh brute forcing is that the passwords are very dumb
[03:30] <oplacker> and complex
[03:30] <troll_> google is your friend.. theres tools..
[03:31] <Bublik2002> how do you know if theres a fix for a bug in launchpad?
[03:31] <oplacker> How do I run brutus
[03:31] <troll_> google it
[03:31] <OerHeks> Bublik2002, you would notice the update
[03:31] <troll_> this is ubuntu help chan not hacking chan :D
[03:32] <Bublik2002> Oerheks: i dont have it currently installed because of this bug i switched to fedora but would like to switch back when its resolved
[03:32] <lotus-blade> DrPenguin: after adjusting xorg.conf do I need to reboot or is there a quick way?  I know in debian all I did was invoke-rc.d gdm3 restart from root shell
[03:32] <bonhoffer> is there a way to type: open foo.pdf in the console and open a pdf viewer
[03:32] <DrPenguin> lotus-blade: you can just do pkill X
[03:33] <werty9d> bomhoff yes its possible
[03:33] <OerHeks> Bublik2002, status says not fixed
[03:33] <pksadiq> bonhoffer: I think no, but you can open xinit and open any gui app
[03:33] <bonhoffer> pksadiq, thanks
[03:33] <e2b04836> bublik2002: when its fixed the status will show "Fix Commited"
[03:34] <bonhoffer> what is the pdf viewer default in ubuntu?
[03:34] <vouth> Every track I've checked in my Banshee library has a file size of "-1 bytes". Does anyone know what's happened here?
[03:34] <qin_> bonhoffer: there is fbi
[03:34] <DrPenguin> evince?
[03:34] <Bublik2002> OerHeks: whats crazy is that the dell e6410 is a certified ubuntu 11.10 laptop... how could that be?
[03:34] <e2b04836> committed*
[03:34] <pksadiq> bonhoffer: evince
[03:35] <bonhoffer> thanks
[03:36] <werty9d> vouth -1 is not size there is no -1
[03:36] <werty9d> its error report of the app imao
[03:36] <vouth> werty9d: True. I'm just quoting the Banshee interface. That's not the real filesize, obviously
[03:36] <pksadiq> werty9d: I think -1 is used to indicate infinity
[03:37] <iToast> Query
[03:37] <iToast> Question:*
[03:37] <vouth> werty9d: There is this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/banshee/+bug/769006
[03:37] <iToast> Can i setup ubuntu to automaticly download youtube videos that I give it?
[03:37] <DrPenguin> iToast: you can write a script to do that
[03:37] <vouth> werty9d: but as far as I can tell nothing will play at all.
[03:37] <iToast> DrPenguin: Crap.
[03:38] <DrPenguin> iToast: what? shell scripts are easy to write
[03:38] <vouth> werty9d: Just earlier this evening it worked fine. :-(
[03:38] <iToast> DrPenguin: I've never made one
[03:38] <iToast> Any tutorials?
[03:38] <werty9d> it looks like a fs error
[03:38] <DrPenguin> iToast: google like.. bash scripting
[03:38] <iToast> ok
[03:38] <pangolin> iToast: check out youtube-dl
[03:38] <DrPenguin> iToast: hell I could probably write one for you.. what are you using to dl the videos?
[03:39] <werty9d> maybe you removed the usb stick that contains the files :)
[03:39] <iToast> DrPenguin: This is all happening on a Ubuntu server
[03:39] <iToast> 10.4
[03:39] <pksadiq> vouth: have you mounted the drives you are trying to access the files?
[03:39] <vouth> werty9d: Well, they play fine in Totem.
[03:39] <DrPenguin> iToast: not OS :P what tool
[03:39] <vouth> pksadiq: yes.
[03:39] <iToast> I just need a script i can pass  something like this to "watch?v=A4EgfLlvlDg&feature=g-all-lik&context=G2600677FAAAAAAAAMAA"
[03:40] <e2b04836> iToast: best option is probably a php script and php-cli theres numerous examples online
[03:40] <DrPenguin> iToast: the item pangolin recommended, youtube-dl, can do the thing, you give it an HTML link to youtube and itl download the video
[03:40] <iToast> DrPenguin: Can we automate it?
[03:40] <pksadiq> iToast: you may ask in bash, you may create a script using wget, and changing youtube.com to get2pc.com etc
[03:40] <DrPenguin> iToast: auotmate it in what way?
[03:41] <iToast> DrPenguin: Give it a link, it starts downloading.
[03:41] <iToast> Nothing involvng bash
[03:41] <iToast> Or console.
[03:41] <DrPenguin> iToast: … thats how youtube-dl works
[03:41] <mhiku> how to use ubuntu as a dchp pxe boot server for diskless clients to connect to it and boot windows 7
[03:41] <iToast> DrPenguin: can we take this to a PM?
[03:41] <DrPenguin> iToast: ok.. how do you plan to give "it" the link?
[03:41] <DrPenguin> uh ok
[03:41] <vouth> pksadiq, werty9d: Files in my home directory seem unaffected.
[03:42] <optimusM> how do i install utorrent on ubuntu 10.04?
[03:42] <szal> iToast: sounds like a case for JDownloader; iirc you can configure it to auto-download everything you throw at it (reads the clipboard, so copying the address would do)
[03:42] <szal> optimusM: ideally you don't & use a Linux-native torrent app
[03:43] <iToast> szal: it all hapens on a remote machine.
[03:43] <pksadiq> mhiku: you may use pxeboot to load some bootloader like plpbt and from that you may boot usb, cd or what ever
[03:43] <optimusM> you have any suggestions?
[03:43] <DrPenguin> optimusM: deluge or transmission would work
[03:43] <optimusM> thank you
[03:43] <almoxarife> optimusM: transmission, you get to tap into the utorrent swarm
[03:44] <optimusM> i have tranmission
[03:44] <optimusM> transmission
[03:44] <optimusM> its the default that came with ubuntu 10.04
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[03:45] <optimusM> but it seems to be going very slow at getting stuff
[03:45] <DrPenguin> optimusM: how many seeds are on the torrent?
[03:45] <optimusM> 1,400
[03:45] <optimusM> oops wait
[03:46] <optimusM> yea 1,400
[03:46] <DrPenguin> and whats the down bandwidth?
[03:46] <optimusM> 50 kbs
[03:46] <DrPenguin> that is cruddy
[03:47] <DrPenguin> have you tried dling a file outside of transmissiont o ensure its just not your connection>?
[03:47] <optimusM> it might also be because im doing something taking all the cpu speed
[03:47] <DrPenguin> optimusM: not likely
[03:47] <pangolin> allquixotic: please don't advertise in here.
[03:47] <optimusM> never heard of dling
[03:47] <DrPenguin> optimusM: downloading..
[03:47] <CarlFK> are there any barcode fonts 'built in' (either defult, or an apt-get away
[03:47] <optimusM> oh haha
[03:48] <CarlFK> and what apps will decode an image of a barcode?  pretty sure gocr will, can't find support for this idea though
[03:48] <allquixotic> pangolin: As said, I won't. :) Once and never again. Those who are interested will check it out. Those who aren't, won't hear it again.
[03:48] <almoxarife> optimusM: set the upload speed at 80% of avail, the rest is just a matter of swarm voodoo
[03:48] <ycy212> 김건태
[03:49] <ycy212> heigt
[03:49] <ycy212> wihth
[03:49] <CarlFK> ycy212: what are you doing?
[03:49] <optimusM> lmao
[03:49] <optimusM> i know why is was going so slow lol
[03:49] <ycy212> 몰라
[03:50] <ycy212> i dont know
[03:50] <ycy212> w
[03:50] <CarlFK> ycy212: what ever you are doing, please stop :)
[03:50] <optimusM> i had to set perefernces it was set to 50
[03:50] <ryoohki> DrPenguin: purged and re-added gdm, lightdm, and kdm... and now it is working
[03:50] <ycy212> ok
[03:50] <DrPenguin> ryoohki: Jesus!
[03:51] <DrPenguin> ryoohki: things like this make me glad I use arch linux.. much more stable than ubuntu :P (not to hate on ubuntu, just had bad experiences post Lucid)
[03:52] <almoxarife> DrPenguin: that's nice, but here you are with the less fortunate, thank you and bravo
[03:52] <ycy212> 김건태=게파이  you know?
[03:52] <DrPenguin> almoxarife: much les fortunate indeed
[03:52] <itsnotabigtruck> anyone know about GPGSM (GnuPG S/MIME)
[03:52] <optimusM> whats a software to burn dvds ?
[03:52] <ryoohki> DrPenguin: unity is terible - beta quality
[03:52] <EncRyptO> anyone know syntax for unzipping a zipped iso dist?     unzip file.zip does not work
[03:52] <DrPenguin> optimusM: Brasero
[03:53] <optimusM> is that like bero
[03:53] <optimusM> nero
[03:53] <EncRyptO> 7z e file.zip does not work, throws errors
[03:53] <DrPenguin> eh, Ive never used nero
[03:53] <optimusM> it says i already have brasero
[03:54] <itsnotabigtruck> optimusM: yeah, it is
[03:54] <itsnotabigtruck> it looks a lot like nero express
[03:54] <itsnotabigtruck> man, nero sure did turn to garbage :| used to be half-decent software
[03:54] <fernando> hello, friend i need help
[03:54] <itsnotabigtruck> fortunately there's better programs for windows that are free now
[03:54] <pksadiq> EncRyptO: try file file.zip and confirm its zip or not, you may also try unp file.zip
[03:54] <optimusM> add the avi video and then press burn?
[03:55] <fer> with xubuntu
[03:55] <itsnotabigtruck> optimusM: it doesn't look like it does dvd video, that's a different problem
[03:55] <CarlFK> optimusM: are you trying to make a movie dvd that will play in a dvd player, or just drop files on a dvd?
[03:55] <optimusM> dvd that will play in a dvd player
[03:56] <optimusM> movie dvd
[03:56] <EncRyptO> pksadiq, it says zip archive data   at least v2.0 to extract
[03:56] <itsnotabigtruck> optimusM: http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/howto-linux-create-video-dvds.html
[03:56] <itsnotabigtruck> so has no one used GPG before, at all? i've been asking every so often for a while to no response whatsoever
[03:56] <DrPenguin> EncRyptO: is Ark able to explore it?
[03:57] <itsnotabigtruck> to repeat the question: anyone tried using GPG + S/MIME on oneiric? i'm trying to assist someone setting it up but importing the pkcs#12 (.p12) file doesn't cause the key to show up under gpgsm -K
[03:57] <itsnotabigtruck> i.e. it claims it's importing the secret key, but doesn't
[03:57] <EncRyptO> DrPenguin, Here is what file file.zip says,,     End-of-central-directory signature not found.  Either this file is not
[03:57] <EncRyptO>   a zipfile, or it constitutes one disk of a multi-part archive.  In the
[03:57] <EncRyptO>   latter case the central directory and zipfile comment will be found on
[03:57] <EncRyptO>   the last disk(s) of this archive.
[03:58] <ycy212> ...
[03:58] <DrPenguin> EncRyptO: ok… but have you tried to explore it with Ark or some other archive explorer
[03:58] <liwei> jkdsjf
[03:58] <EncRyptO> DrPenguin, no not yet, will do now
[03:58] <pksadiq> EncRyptO: if you have md5sum, check to to ensure that the file is not damaged
[03:59] <LostyJai> anyone here use lustre on ubuntu?
[04:00] <szal> !anyone
[04:02] <optimusM> thank you for your help :)
[04:02] <herent> woohoo!  halfway done with updating my website's theme
[04:02] <herent> amazing what you can do with a google font and a little css love
[04:03] <usr13> a google font?
[04:03] <herent> http://www.google.com/webfonts#ChoosePlace:select
[04:04] <LostyJai> wow nice
[04:04] <EncRyptO> DrPenguin, pksadiq , Yeah, it was a bad file, thanks
[04:05] <herent> http://www.werstnet.com/ is the site I just started using the fonts on, plus redid the blog list template quite a bit
[04:10] <mysteriousdarren> herent: I like the site it looks pretty good.
[04:10] <herent> thanks, I did all the theme myself
[04:11] <Grecoo> well, back to 10.10
[04:11] <woodp> nmk
[04:12] <Grecoo> ¿?
[04:16] <woodp> ,,,,
[04:18] <gigi87> hey folks
[04:18] <nvz> howdy
[04:18] <woodp> ,,,,
[04:18] <woodp> mnb
[04:19] <gigi87> is there someone who can help me with a graphics/ "i-added-some dump ppa, installed sth., dont remember what and cant remove it- sth. with lib6 or lib sth"-problem
[04:20] <almoxarife> where is the shutdown process logged to? no, didn't see it in syslog or kernlog
[04:21] <celltech> How do I fix this?
[04:21] <vouth> Hi! Banshee is reporting all of the tracks on my external hard drive as having a size of "-1 bytes". I tried rebooting and then mounting the drive before starting Banshee, but that had no effect. What's wrong here?
[04:21] <gigi87> where in the log viewer can I see what i recently installed?
[04:22] <almoxarife> gigi87: got synaptic installed?
[04:22] <gigi87> yepp, almoxarife
[04:23] <almoxarife> gigi87: look at 'history' then
[04:24] <gigi87> cant find "history" , hint??
[04:24] <almoxarife> gigi87: file tab
[04:25] <gigi87> opps sry, thx, almoxarife
[04:25] <rauch> Does anyone happen to know any way to have access to an iPod/iPhone as the actual UNIX file structure and not just the media folders?
[04:25] <celltech> How do I fix '/ect/init.d/vboxdrv setup' ?
[04:26] <almoxarife> celltech: tried to re-install virtualbox?
[04:26] <gigi87> almoxarife, can terminal show what a package includes, just to make sure i dont remove wrong stuff
[04:26] <celltech> almoxarife Done it 2 times already. and I keep getting that error
[04:27] <almoxarife> gigi87: I am very happy to say that I don't have any idea how to see the info I see in synaptic in terminal
[04:27] <hemanth> Trying to configure SIPE with empathy/pidgin, tired almost all combination for the config, no use...any suggestions?
[04:28] <almoxarife> celltech: have you completely removed-purged it?
[04:28] <gigi87> nope i found a the name of the package, but i think i there was more, maybe the contents, i just did an update in termianl then and I saw like 5 or 6 packages, fpor this same day synaptic is howing just 1
[04:28] <celltech> Probably not. What's the sudo please?
[04:29] <almoxarife> celltech: got synaptic?
[04:29] <celltech> I do
[04:29] <OerHeks> celltech, after install vbox + network driver, did you reboot ?
[04:29] <jon____> can anyone tell me what does this cronjob do? "[ -x /usr/lib/php5/maxlifetime ] && [ -d /var/lib/php5 ] && find /var/lib/php5/ -depth -mindepth 1 -maxdepth 1 -type f -cmin +$(/usr/lib/php5/maxlifetime) ! -execdir fuser -s {} 2>/dev/null \; -delete"
[04:29] <celltech> Always do yes
[04:30] <OerHeks> jon____, what should it do ?
[04:30] <almoxarife> celltech: look, use what ever pleases you, you need to wipe virtualbox first, that includes conf anything, then you want to try to re-install it
[04:31] <jon____> OerHeks: I have no idea. its inserted by webmin
[04:31] <celltech> almoxarife Can I get the purge sudo then please?
[04:31] <almoxarife> celltech: I don't do terminal, synaptic > remove and then purge what's left
[04:32] <boldfilter> How do I connect an mtd device like new android devices in ubuntu
[04:33] <almoxarife> boldfilter: mtd?
[04:33] <boldfilter> Ya, like android isnt using usbconnectivity anymore its mtd
[04:34] <almoxarife> boldfilter: like how does that connect?
[04:35] <OerHeks> !mtd
[04:35] <boldfilter> It allows the phone to read/write while the computer its connected to can read and write it as well
[04:36] <almoxarife> boldfilter: phone? how about blu-tooth?
[04:36] <boldfilter> Allowing a phone to not require an sd card
[04:38] <jon____> OerHeks: Any idea?
[04:38] <OerHeks> jon____, nope
[04:41] <gigi87> Upgraded the following packages: avidemux (1:2.5.2-0ubuntu3) to 1:2.5.4-1~getdeb2  Installed the following packages: libvpx0 (0.9.5-2~build0.10.04.1), almoxarife, do you know how i can undo this in terminal, so it removes connected packages as well?
[04:42] <boldfilter> MTP os what I'm talking about not MTD
[04:42] <teste> hi
[04:42] <boldfilter> MTP devices
[04:42] <teste> someone there
[04:42] <teste> i have tryed ubunto in the past
[04:43] <teste> but at that time with ad problems with realteck
[04:43] <teste> wireless
[04:43] <aeon-ltd> teste: ask the question all in ONE line
[04:43] <teste> i whant to know if progress have been made with the realtek wireless cards
[04:43] <gigi87> "Upgraded the following packages: avidemux (1:2.5.2-0ubuntu3) to 1:2.5.4-1~getdeb2  Installed the following packages: libvpx0 (0.9.5-2~build0.10.04.1)" [synptic history entry] does anyone know how i can undo this,
[04:44] <teste> in the past they worked but very very slow, if in windows they runed fast in linux very slow
[04:44] <OerHeks> teste realtech makes 1000 wifi cards, wich one ?
[04:44] <teste> rtl8187
[04:45] <geoffmcc> gigi87: if you mean to delete package and all dependancies, it would be sudo dpkg --purge --force-remove-reinstreq packagename
[04:45] <gigi87> geoffmcc, thx, will this remove getbed2 as well?
[04:46] <gigi87> geoffmcc, getdeb2
[04:46] <gigi87> "i should go to bed"
[04:46] <geoffmcc> gigi87: if you do it with whatever the original package was, if you mean to delete that as well, then yes it will get everything
[04:47] <gigi87> cause the entry show avidemux, which i already removes in software manager, upgraded to getdeb2, does this make sence?
[04:47] <gigi87> not for me..
[04:48] <gigi87> but i think getdeb was the ppa that i had added, geoffmcc
[04:48] <almoxarife> gigi87: you added a ppa called something like 'getdeb.....'
[04:48] <geoffmcc> gigi87: well if you just uninstalled that program, then yes, it would normally leave dependancies behind i think
[04:49] <gigi87> yepp almoxarife, i guess thats what messed up my graphics
[04:49] <gigi87> after the update
[04:50] <gigi87> synaptic log says: "Upgraded the following packages: avidemux (1:2.5.2-0ubuntu3) to 1:2.5.4-1~getdeb2", geoffmcc
[04:50] <almoxarife> gigi87: every script-kiddie in the world can submit to 'getdeb' , what you have sounds like a broke dependencies due to ppa addons
[04:50] <gigi87> geoffmcc, dies this make sence to you?
[04:50] <h4xww> hi people
[04:51] <h4xww> does anyone knows a good site to understand Linux from the very deep abstraction layer?
[04:51] <gigi87> almoxarife, yes  i remeber i installed like 6 packages from that ppa, and i think it crooked my graphics alittle
[04:52] <geoffmcc> gigi87: its just saying it replaced the offical package from ubuntu to the getdeb version
[04:52] <almoxarife> gigi87: I wouldn't use getdeb ppa for anything, and if you have you want to purge the ppa
[04:52] <gigi87> hmm yepp, and ptobably six packages as well
[04:52] <h4xww> :-O
[04:52] <vouth> Hi! Banshee is reporting all of the tracks on my external hard drive as having a size of "-1 bytes". I tried rebooting and then mounting the drive before starting Banshee, but that had no effect. Files in my home folder seem unaffected. What's wrong here?
[04:52] <teste> where can i DL last ubunto, i dont whant to burn a disk is possible?
[04:53] <almoxarife> teste: usb?
[04:53] <SwedeMike> boldfilter: there is a package "mtd-utils - Memory Technology Device Utilities"
[04:53] <teste> can be~
[04:53] <aeon-ltd> teste: http://www.ubuntu.com/download
[04:54] <boldfilter> A;;right
[04:54] <gigi87> almoxarife, then sudo dpkg --purge --force-remove-reinstreq getdeb2 avidemux libvpx0  ??? , synptic saying "Upgraded the following packages: avidemux (1:2.5.2-0ubuntu3) to 1:2.5.4-1~getdeb2  Installed the following packages: libvpx0 (0.9.5-2~build0.10.04.1)"
[04:54] <geoffmcc> gigi87: when i said that i didnt realise you added a ppa
[04:55] <almoxarife> teste: you can install from usb, but you will need to create a 'start up disk/usb'
[04:55] <geoffmcc> gigi87: your gonna want to use something like ppa-purge
[04:55] <gigi87> geoffmcc, i relaised it, iwanted to upgrade transmission, but thats an old ppa
[04:55] <almoxarife> gigi87: no idea how to do it in terminal, I use synaptic, not ashamed here
[04:56] <geoffmcc> almoxarife: first thing i install
[04:56] <Jeaton> anyone know of any good dvd authoring apps for ubuntu?
[04:57] <Jeaton> i know of tovid, but for some reason its no longer working for me
 gigi87: your gonna want to use something like ppa-purge, dont understand this
[04:57] <geoffmcc> gigi87: if you sudo apt-get install ppa-purge and then do ppa-purge -p ppaname it will delete the ppa and revert all packages back to offical state
[04:57] <Anthony_Raelo> i was watching a vid on the internet and all of a sudden 2 girls 1 cup popped up, any way to prevent this?
[04:57] <geoffmcc> gigi87: once installed see also man ppa-purge
[04:58] <almoxarife> geoffmcc: it will and it may further trash his system, then he remembers you caused it :)
[04:58] <gigi87> geoffmcc, ppa is already removed from config, trying to get rid of these packages and its dependecies now.
[04:58] <gigi87> geoffmcc, packages seem to be Upgraded the following packages: avidemux (1:2.5.2-0ubuntu3) to 1:2.5.4-1~getdeb2  Installed the following packages: libvpx0 (0.9.5-2~build0.10.04.1)
[04:58] <almoxarife> Anthony_Raelo: turn off the internet
[04:59] <Anthony_Raelo> almoxarife: how do i turn it off?
[04:59] <almoxarife> gigi87: removing the ppa does not purge it!
[04:59] <gigi87> geoffmcc, and afterward i hope an apt-get update will redo the old satuts
[04:59] <gigi87> status
[05:00] <powertool08> Anthony_Raelo: Don't click on links your friends send you. :) Also, add an entry to /etc/hosts to point the url to 127.0.0.1
[05:00] <robmillernow> noob here got a disappearing desktop on a Dell Inspiron 1520
[05:00] <gigi87> i know, but what iexactly is purge remove package and dependencies, almoxarfe?
[05:00] <geoffmcc> gigi87: should be fine, i never had a problem with it, but then again it was only once or twice i used it
[05:00] <robmillernow> I'd love to REINSTALL but i can't the the thing to boot from CD
[05:00] <gigi87> i know, but what iexactly is purge remove package and dependencies, almoxarife, geoffmcc?
[05:00] <robmillernow> anybody help??
[05:01] <robmillernow> no menu bars, no nothing.
[05:01] <nem1981> Need room for google API queries.. anyone knows>
[05:01] <Anthony_Raelo> powertool08: the first video was this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1b7DKQx5SCw  then it gone to that stuff
[05:01] <Anthony_Raelo> creepy
[05:01] <robmillernow> just a blank desktop background
[05:01] <powertool08> Anthony_Raelo: Thanks but I'll pass.
[05:01] <robmillernow> anybody
[05:01] <robmillernow> ?
[05:01] <nem1981> Need IRC room for google API queries.. anyone knows
[05:01] <geoffmcc> gigi87: im not understanding, where are you seeing that?
[05:01] <almoxarife> gigi87: purging the ppa will strip your system of all the crap it installed, but then you get to hope that the purge does not further cripple your system, it can, it might, it's a crap shoot
[05:02] <robmillernow> ??
[05:02] <geoffmcc> gigi87: ah i get what you were saying now, sorry
[05:02] <Anthony_Raelo> ok added the entry
[05:02] <Anthony_Raelo> do i need to restart my pc?
[05:02] <robmillernow> anybody want to help me out?
[05:03] <geoffmcc> robmillernow: ask your question, if someone can answer they will
[05:03] <powertool08> Anthony_Raelo: Probably at least the networking service.
[05:03] <gigi87> geoffmcc almoxarife which command am i supposed to used here? removing avidemux , getdeb2, libvpx0 and reuse the former status?
[05:03] <almoxarife> Anthony_Raelo: I am going to whine to the ops, as soon as I figure out how, brb
[05:03] <Anthony_Raelo> why?
[05:03] <almoxarife> gigi87: in synaptic?
[05:03] <gigi87> geoffmcc almoxarife which command am i supposed to used here? removing avidemux , getdeb2, libvpx0 AND DEPENDENCIES and reuse the former status?
[05:03] <almoxarife> gigi87: in synaptic?
[05:04] <robmillernow> I have a blank desktop background -- no windows, no bars, no nothing.  What the hell's going on?  I'd like to reinstall, but i can't get it to boot from CD
[05:04] <powertool08> nem1981: Try here: http://groups.google.com/group/google-ajax-search-api/browse_thread/thread/23b471b4323f922b
[05:04] <gigi87> almoxarife, im not sure, maybe it s better in terminal cause of dependencies? im a total newb here^^
[05:04] <robmillernow> If i could get the system to display normally, I wouldn't need to reinstall, but I don't see any alternative
[05:04] <robmillernow> CAN ANYONE HELP?
[05:05] <Anthony_Raelo> robmillernow: trash the pc
[05:05] <almoxarife> gigi87: as you please
[05:05] <geoffmcc> !patience | robmilernow
[05:05] <reokie> Are there are types of ram with the same keys? I installed another stick of ram, but one is taller, but they are keyed the same
[05:05] <robmillernow> i'm trying to revive my father's Dell Inspiron.  It's been running Ubuntu for over a year, and since I was here last holiday, it's gone tits up.
[05:06] <gigi87> geoffmcc almoxarife which command am i supposed to used here? removing avidemux , getdeb2, libvpx0 and reuse the former status?
[05:06] <almoxarife> gigi87: in synaptic?
[05:06] <robmillernow> I WANT to be able to recommend this operating system, but advice like "trash the pc" doesn't jam me full of confidence.
[05:06] <gigi87> almoxarife, in synaptic, just searching thes packages and unmark?
[05:06] <almoxarife> gigi87: yeap
[05:07] <Jeaton> what is a good dvd authoring app for ubuntu besides tovid?
[05:07] <geoffmcc> robmillernow: since its a community enviroment, unfortunatly you get responses like that at times, sorry
[05:07] <powertool08> robmillernow: Why can't you boot from cd? Is it enabled as the 1st boot option in bios?
[05:07] <gigi87> almoxarife, will this reproduce the former status as well, and properly remove denpendencies, do u know?
[05:07] <reokie> Jeaton: Brasero?
[05:07] <robmillernow> when i hit F2 to go to setup, it gives me the option of several versions of Linux, but not to reboot from CD
[05:07] <almoxarife> robmillernow: if you want to install from scratch I recommend doing it with the 'alternate' iso/disk for your machine type
[05:07] <robmillernow> it's not really a "boot" menu since Ubuntu came along...
[05:08] <robmillernow> so Ubuntu specifically FOR this Dell Inspiron 1520 ?
[05:08] <robmillernow> that exists?
[05:08] <powertool08> robmillernow: Try f9 or f12, sometimes those give you the option to boot from cd.
[05:08] <robmillernow> k thanks powertool08 trying that
[05:08] <almoxarife> gigi87: no, can't say, this is ppa's are frowned on
[05:09] <Chotaz> Hey guys
[05:10] <Chotaz> i just finished fresh installing my machine, but after restarting after the instalation, im not able to boot into the system anymore, im currently on liveCD
[05:10] <gigi87> thx, almoxarife, i wont touch them anymore, ^^ learned sth today
[05:10] <urlin2u> Chotaz, do you get the grub menu?
[05:10] <gigi87> geoffmcc, you still there?
[05:10] <Chotaz> urlin2u: no, the monitor goes to sleep after some random colored squares appear
[05:10] <robmillernow> nope -- those two keys just make it beep.  Yeah, the boot menu is now the GRUB menu ...
[05:11] <robmillernow> doesn't really get me to the drives anymore like it used to before installing Ubuntu
[05:11] <urlin2u> Chotaz, is ubuntu the only OS?
[05:11] <Chotaz> urlin2u: currently yes
[05:11] <urlin2u> Chotaz, you familiar with nomodeset?
[05:11] <powertool08> robmillernow: Is this a laptop or a desktop? What is your motherboard manufacturer and model?
[05:11] <Chotaz> urlin2u: never heard of
[05:12] <robmillernow> laptop ...  not sure where to find the motherboard manu and model without getting to menus that don't appear anymore, right?
[05:12] <geoffmcc> gigi87: yes
[05:12] <powertool08> robmillernow: Ok, laptop brand and model?
[05:12] <Jeaton> reokie: Brasero does dvd authoring?
[05:13] <robmillernow> Dell Inspiron 1520 laptop
[05:13] <urlin2u> Chotaz, so power opn and tap the shift key this should give you the grub menu, hit e for edit and using the cursor keys navigate to the end of the kernel where it says no splash or splash and type in nomodeset, then boot if you get e terminal type stsrtx.
[05:13] <gigi87> now, do you still remember my problem, geoffmcc?
[05:13] <powertool08> Jeaton: I don't think it does. Just cd burning.
[05:13] <powertool08> !brasero > Jeaton
[05:13] <gigi87> i m trying one of these commands here geoffmcc
[05:13] <urlin2u> !nomodeset | Chotaz
[05:14] <Jeaton> powertool08: I didnt think it did, reokie suggested that when I asked about a decent app that does authoring besides tovid
[05:14] <shaneo> hey guys any reason why a notification wouldnt appear in unity taskbar even when setby the program
[05:14] <geoffmcc> gigi87: yes
[05:14] <Chotaz> urlin2u: im not sure if ill be able to get to the grub menu, after the bios screen, i see some randomly colored squared on my screen and then it goes to sleep
[05:14] <powertool08> Jeaton: I don't know of any as I haven't used them, I'm assuming reokie did not realize you were asking for authoring versus writing.
[05:15] <urlin2u> Chotaz, the link might give a better description, you may need a graphics driver. Since you have only one OS the grub menu is not shown the colored squares are after this menu most likely.
[05:15] <Chotaz> also, I always used ubuntu and never had this problem
[05:15] <iToast> Im just a little curios.
[05:15] <Jeaton> i'm trying out bombono now, hopefully its decent
[05:15] <iToast> Im using ubuntu server 10.4
[05:15] <iToast> Could i get linux kernel 3.x?
[05:15] <Chotaz> so starting x like that and then installing the drivers should solve it_
[05:16] <gigi87> , geoffmcc, either sudo dpkg --purge --force-remove-reinstreq avidemux getdeb2 libvpx0 ----OR---------- sudo apt-get install ppa-purge and then do ppa-purge -p ppaname, but i dont remember the ppas name...
[05:16] <powertool08> robmillernow: It should be the f2 key, I'd suggest turning the laptop off, then turn it on and as soon as you hit the power button, hit f2 as fast as you can but be sure to release in between taps.
[05:16] <Chotaz> ill try it, brb
[05:16] <urlin2u> Chotaz, hopefully if you get in do a update and upgrade then look in additional drivers from the menu.
[05:16] <robmillernow> yep, did that... it takes me to the GRUB menu
[05:16] <powertool08> robmillernow: fast and repeatedly of course.
[05:17] <szal> iToast: in 10.04, no
[05:17] <robmillernow> shit.  it worked.  thanks.
[05:17] <iToast> szal: Why not?
[05:17] <iToast> How about 11.x
[05:17] <powertool08> robmillernow: no problem.
[05:18] <szal> iToast: because it's not available
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[05:18] <szal> iToast: 11.10 has 3.0.0
[05:18] <FloodBot1> oplacker: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:18] <oplacker> what do I do
[05:18] <iToast> :D
[05:18] <geoffmcc> gigi87: wasnt the ppa getdeb? no you would just use the ppa-purge -p ppaname. like i said, i never had problems, but someone said they did, so assume there is a risk involved in doing so i guess.
[05:18] <iToast> How hard is it to perform the upgrade...
[05:18] <szal> !ot | oplacker
[05:18] <powertool08> Woo! I won! :D
[05:19] <iToast> How hard is it to upgrade ubuntu server 10.4 to 11.10
[05:20] <szal> iToast: upgrade 10.04 to 10.10 to 11.04 to 11.10..  easier to reinstall w/ 11.10 or to wait for 12.04
[05:20] <urlin2u> gigi87, look in sourceslist.d in /etc/apt you can gksudo there and remove it.
[05:20] <robmillernow> aaaand changing the boot sequence takes me to the GRUB MENU.  square one
[05:20] <gigi87> hmm geoffmcc, ill give it a shot, i guess is it "sudo apt-get install ppa-purge" and then " ppa-purge -p getdeb "2, not an url or sth?
[05:20] <iToast>  szal No direct upgrade from 10.4 to 11.04?
[05:20] <szal> iToast: no
[05:20] <iToast> ...
[05:20] <iToast> Is it worth it?
[05:20] <geoffmcc> gigi87: it defaults to ppa.launchpad.net
[05:20] <iToast> Ok, everyone alive in the channel, can i ask something
[05:20] <powertool08> robmillernow: Can you disable booting to the hdd?
[05:21] <gigi87> urlinu2, i already did this, so i cant say its exact name
[05:21] <szal> depends on what you consider being wirth it
[05:21] <geoffmcc> gigi87: so no need to use host
[05:21] <iToast> Should i stick with 10.4 server and wait for 12.0 or upgrade to 11.10?!
[05:21] <robmillernow> yeah.  i'll try that now.
[05:21] <urlin2u> iToast, yes ask it.
[05:21] <iToast> Should i stick with 10.4 server and wait for 12.0 or upgrade to 11.10?!
[05:21] <szal> !repeat | iToast
[05:21] <iToast> szal: -_- i was repeating for urlin2u
[05:21] <gigi87> geoffmcc use getdeb2 or getdeb in command?
[05:22] <iToast> szal: Also, ugm, ubuntu has a stock install of python 2.6 right
[05:22] <gigi87> use getdeb2 or getdeb in command for ppaname?
[05:22] <gigi87> use getdeb2 or getdeb in command for ppaname?, geoffmcc?
[05:22]  * szal doesn't care too much about what Python version is installed as long as it works
[05:22] <iToast> ...
[05:23] <iToast> oh, 2.6.5
[05:23] <iToast> PERFECT
[05:23] <geoffmcc> gigi87: im not sure, im going by what you tell me. looks like getdeb though with a quick google search
[05:23] <szal> !info python
[05:23] <geoffmcc> gigi87: also, patience please
[05:24] <gigi87> geoffmcc, i'm sorry
[05:24] <gigi87> eyes are getting tired
[05:24] <lyrae> ok. i can't alt+f2 anymore to run somethign. what's the equivalent in gnome3
[05:24] <lyrae> of alt + f2
[05:25] <robmillernow> yeah it said that the media drive failed, but i'm now running tests, and the DVD drive seems to work fine
[05:25] <szal> iToast: on 11.10 there's a choice of Python 2.6, 2.7 and 3.2
[05:25] <iToast> 3.2 seems useless
[05:25] <robmillernow> unless this machine is too old to HAVE a DVD drive, and only has a CD drive...  hmm...
[05:26] <szal> iToast: and if you're actually running a _server_ it's best to stick w/ the LTS, unless you want to upgrade every 18 months at the latest
[05:26] <powertool08> robmillernow: Its possible, it will tell you on the tray.
[05:26] <geoffmcc> robmillernow: i have done that, lol
[05:26] <iToast> szal: I am, ok, thanks for the advice.
[05:27] <geoffmcc> robmillernow: if you dont have a cd maybe bios supports usb
[05:27] <szal> iToast: the LTS version is supported for 5 years on the server..  so unless you need new features that will be in 12.04 there's no need to upgrade for another 3 years and a bit
[05:27] <urlin2u> gigi87, so your tring to remove the ppa link right?
[05:28] <iToast> szal: security?
[05:28] <gigi87> no urlin2u, i did that by hand, arleady
[05:28] <urlin2u> gigi87, cool just checking.
[05:28] <gigi87> when trying to install, sudo apt-get install ppa-purge Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree        Reading state information... Done E: Couldn't find package ppa-purge, geoffmcc
[05:28] <szal> iToast: including that..  as far as I get it, after 3 years of lifetime, there will only be security updates for the remaining 2 years
[05:28] <gigi87> thx, urlin2u
[05:29] <blackbox> Hey,  does anybody know what the difference is from the GPL and LGPL copyright laws ?
[05:29] <geoffmcc> gigi87: what version of ubuntu are you using?
[05:29] <urlin2u> gigi87, never heard of ppa-purge to install it can be done in a regular set up without that install I believe.
[05:30] <gigi87> 10.4 lucid, geoffmcc
[05:30] <szal> blackbox: (1) these are not laws but licences; (2) discussing licences is off-topic here (not support-related); please ask in #ubuntu-offtopic
[05:30] <blackbox> ok
[05:31] <almoxarife> !info ppa-purge
[05:31] <robmillernow> it's a DVD drive ...  and honestly, the USB instructions for Mac are too damn complicated
[05:31] <powertool08> robmillernow: Mac? I thought it was a Dell..
[05:32] <iToast> how do i restart the php dameon? i tried restart service php
[05:32] <EvilResistance> iToast, service php5 restart?
[05:33] <iToast> oh
[05:33] <iToast> How do i forget the 5 -_-, i'm a moron
[05:33] <EvilResistance> iToast, sudo service php5[hit the tab key] restart
[05:33] <EvilResistance> ;P
[05:33] <hacked_kernel> ?
[05:33] <iToast> Nvm
[05:33] <iToast> i don't need to any more :D
[05:34] <robmillernow> yeah i'm prepping Ubuntu on my MacBook Pro to get my dad's crappy Dell to work.
[05:34] <geoffmcc> gigi87: sorry, i guess it not available in your version. im sure there are multiple ways to do it, if no one else can help now there always the forums or google
[05:35] <iToast> I'm asking a favour.
[05:35] <iToast> http://192.168.2.4/smf/
[05:35] <iToast> oops, isay.dyndns.org/smf
[05:35] <iToast> Can anyone test that it loads?
[05:35] <robmillernow> yeah those Mac USB directions are really effing confusing.  I'm not THAT much of a noob, but damn.
[05:36] <gigi87> thx, geoffmcc, will google it later on, it seems ppa-purge cant be intsalled in 10.4
[05:36] <powertool08> robmillernow: Like Apple Mac? Why are you looking at Mac directions if you have a Dell? I'm confused.
[05:36] <szal> !info ppa-purge lucid
[05:37] <pitlimit> I'm upgrading to 11.10 from 11.04, but the upgrade has been stuck on "Installing the upgrades" with the Terminal message Preconfiguring packages.... can anyone tell me how I should proceed to make sure the upgrade finishes? It's been stuck here for about 12 hours
[05:37] <robmillernow> i'm using my MacBook Pro (only other computer in the house because I brought it with me here to my Dad's house) to download Ubuntu and used the Macbook to burn the .iso
[05:37] <powertool08> Ah
[05:38] <robmillernow> I can't USE the Dell because it's crapped out.  The Dell is the computer I'm trying to fix.
[05:38] <robmillernow> it's the one that won't boot from CD
[05:38] <pitlimit> what are you trying to do robmillernow
[05:38] <pitlimit> you're trying to install ubuntu from disk?
[05:39] <urlin2u> robmillernow, are you sure that dell will boot from a usb?
[05:39] <robmillernow> urlin2u it's one of the boot options, yeah
[05:39] <urlin2u> robmillernow, cool
[05:40] <robmillernow> pitlimit:  I installed Ubuntu on my Dad's old laptop last Christmas ... it worked fine for a while, but somewhere since then it's only started showing a black desktop background
[05:40] <robmillernow> pitlimit: If I can't get his Ubuntu to come back to life showing menus and bars and crap, then I figure I'll just reinstall from DVD ...  it won't reboot from DVD
[05:41] <robmillernow> I get "PXE-E61: Media test failure, check cable"
[05:41] <robmillernow> BUT i ran diagnostics, and the "media drive" is fine
[05:41] <urlin2u> robmillernow, you get the grub menu try nomodeset at the end of the kernel inplace of splash use e to edit.
[05:41] <powertool08> robmillernow: Thats trying to boot from the network then.
[05:42] <urlin2u> Chotaz, you get in?
[05:45] <robmillernow> THANK YOU urlin2u -- concise advice from a helpful individual.  thanks tons.
[05:46] <nickgaw> Hi, How in ubuntu 11.10 desktop do you enable orca?
[05:48] <nickgaw> Hi, How in ubuntu 11.10 desktop do you enable orca?  the disc boots and spins very fast for a few minutes then stops does this new version make any sounds like earlier versions do when they are booted?
[05:48] <pp7> how do i record from the sound card in 11.10?
[05:48] <pp7> all i get is silence with everything i've tried
[05:49] <oplacker> Ubuntu, Mint, and Debian are crappy OSes that don't work right and have to be recompiled from scratch to work
[05:49] <oplacker> My suggestion is to try a better OS like Gentoo or Mandriva or CentOS
[05:50] <EvilResistance> oplacker:  #ubuntu-offtopic please, if your statement isnt regarding support
[05:50] <oplacker> fuck you
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[05:51] <oplacker> u     >  e  K
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[05:51] <EvilResistance> !ops
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[05:51] <FloodBot1> oplacker: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:51] <oplacker> i  (    u  l
[05:51] <ultrixx> lol
[05:52] <TiMiDo> how lame is that python bot
[05:52] <TiMiDo> ;P
[05:52] <pp7> ROFL @ oplacker
[05:52] <elky> TiMiDo, pp7, no need for that.
[05:52] <pp7> oplacker: got out the wrong side of bed this morning?
[05:52] <EvilResistance> what elky said
[05:53] <szal> spambot, we had a number of those in the past few weeks
[05:53] <EvilResistance> pp7:  see what elky said
[05:53] <pp7> elky: no need for what?
[05:53] <oplacker> so
[05:53] <oplacker> .okay
[05:53] <elky> oplacker, do you plan on behaving?
[05:53] <oplacker> Type /msg geordi geordi << 1 + 2
[05:53] <oplacker> You might learn something
[05:53] <elky> oplacker, that's not behaving. please try again
[05:53] <geoffmcc> please dont feed the trolls
[05:54] <lyrae> I am trying to install apache2, but i get this: http://tabbit.org/gb9_Bn  anyone know why?
[05:54] <pp7> elky: no need for what? what did i do wrong?
[05:54] <elky> geoffmcc, i'm not feeding, i'm giving him an opportunity to not get kicked.
[05:54] <lyrae> dependencies problem...even though it has the ubuntu icon next to it
[05:54] <elky> pp7, you did feed the troll.
[05:54] <pp7> oh duh grow up!
[05:54] <geoffmcc> elky: clearly unwarrented
[05:54] <pp7> all i did was laugh
[05:54] <pp7> cant even have fun around here
[05:55] <ultrixx> oplacker: you have no skillz, friend
[05:55] <elky> pp7, sure, have fun, just don't encourage by giving the reaction they wanted.
[05:55] <oplacker> What do you want me to do, a notice flood?
[05:55] <elky> ultrixx, please don't.
[05:55] <ultrixx> elky: ok
[05:56] <ghost46542> sup bishes
[05:56] <pp7> lol
[05:56] <pp7> oops, shouldn't have lol'ed
[05:56] <pp7> LOL
[05:56] <optimusM> how do i remove a PATH=
[05:58] <nickgaw> Hi, How in ubuntu 11.10 desktop do you enable orca?  the disc boots and spins very fast for a few minutes then stops does this new version make any sounds like earlier versions do when they are booted? sorry if anyone answered me I lost it in all that flooding.
[05:59] <oplacker> Aah well, hep tep rains again.  Sara tara tolmus preed.  With or without meatballs.  Does anyone helpa with a floot bot?  Tragalarian plexels.
[05:59] <oplacker> Abis tripolis helmis
[06:05] <ultrixx> what is the motivation for those people to behave like that? i can't understand it
[06:05] <nickgaw> no clue if they did not like ubuntu then why did they join this channel?
[06:07] <szal> ultrixx: pure boredom, I guess
[06:07] <TiMiDo> they want people only to speak about Ubuntu here that's why all the fussing is around that's why they have #ubuntu-offtopic
[06:08] <nickgaw> does ubuntu 11.10 upon successful boot make any sounds like the earlier versions did?
[06:08] <TiMiDo> this is only a support channel and for talking about anything they refer it to #ubuntu-offtopic
[06:09] <TiMiDo> nickgaw, check www.launchpad.net/ubuntu
[06:09] <sfears> nickgaw: yes, i think there is supposed to be a startup_wav
[06:09] <nac4l> Anyone here got comcrap and know how to configure dyndns?
[06:10] <sfears> nac4l: why are you trying to configure dyndns?
[06:10] <nickgaw> the reason I am asking is I am totally blind and know they changed the process in which the screen reader orca is started on the live disk so am trying to find out the proper way to start ubuntu with accessibility enabled where would be a good place to learn how to do this?
[06:11] <nac4l> what kind of a question is that, because I'm cool.
[06:11] <TiMiDo> sfears, http://bobbyallen.wordpress.com/2008/05/18/dyndns-client-setup-on-ubuntu/
[06:18] <nickgaw> what is talked about on the #ubuntuofftopic channel?
[06:18] <szal> nickgaw: everything and nothing..  and it's #ubuntu-offtopic
[06:19] <nickgaw> do you think someone would know there more about my accessibility question about how on the live disk to start speech?
[06:20] <szal> probably not at this time of day ;)
[06:23] <Babin> can i use windows exe files in ubuntu
[06:24] <szal> can't have been important ;)
[06:26] <parshotam> hy
[06:27] <parshotam> h r u?????
[06:29] <Metroshica> test
[06:29] <Metroshica> is the chat room really that dead right now?
[06:29] <Kull> test failed
[06:29] <Kull> test failed again
[06:33] <szal> kennethr_: any reason for double-join?
[06:35] <kennethr_> szal:what?
[06:36] <szal> [07:31:00] --> kennethr_ has joined this channel (~kennethre@c-24-127-96-129.hsd1.va.comcast.net).
[06:36] <szal> [07:31:02] --> kennethreitz has joined this channel (~kennethre@c-24-127-96-129.hsd1.va.comcast.net). <- that
[06:37] <kennethreitz> szal: sorry to offend
[06:39] <iToast> Asperger's syndrome rofl.
[06:40] <dannel> you mean assburgers?
[06:40] <szal> !language | dannel
[06:40] <hullo>  2.6.31-20-generic DISTRIB_RELEASE=11.10 DISTRIB_CODENAME=oneiric is that the right kernel?
[06:40] <iToast> LOL
[06:40] <iToast> szal: Thats the name of it.
[06:41] <szal> hullo: that doesn't even look like a *buntu kernel
[06:41] <iToast> Lol
[06:41] <szal> hullo: Lucid has 2.6.32, everything older than that is out of support
[06:41] <hullo> i think there's something wrong with my grub
[06:42] <iToast> hullo: Damn thats old.
[06:42] <iToast> Get 3.0
[06:42] <iToast> Nah, I JK, wait for ubuntu 12.0
[06:42] <ssfdre38> quick question if i have another HDD with ubuntu install on it, can i still boot from that HDD to that os
[06:42] <szal> iToast: there is and will be no 12.0
[06:42] <iToast> Its 10.4 10.10 or 11.4 11.10
[06:42] <ssfdre38> it would be 12.04LTS
[06:42] <iToast> Stick to those for now... while we wait for 12.0
[06:43] <hullo> i think i have the kernel package installed but update-grub isnt working
[06:43] <szal> hullo: define 'isn't working'
[06:43] <hullo> isnt it supposed to make the newest kernel installed show up in the grub list?
[06:44] <hullo> how do i identify available kernels and then set it so i can set it in boot args?
[06:44] <fishcooker> how to upgrade from lucid to maverick on command line
[06:45] <fishcooker> i don't want any interactive
[06:45] <Blue1> fishcooker: it is better NOT to upgrade, but to backup /home/ and /etc/ and do a fresh install
[06:45] <fishcooker> why
[06:45] <fishcooker> blue1
[06:46] <fishcooker> is there any problem with grub
[06:46] <dannel> doing a fresh install every 6 months seems impractical
[06:46] <Blue1> fishcooker: because upgrades are problematic - things get broken -- like grub, or video
[06:46] <Blue1> dannel: yes, but less problems in the long run.
[06:46] <szal> hullo: the kernel install should do that automagically..  where did you get that kernel from?
[06:47] <Blue1> dannel: I have root (/) and /home/ on seperate partitions
[06:48] <fishcooker> how to override the grub problem
[06:48] <fishcooker> video problem omitted because im on cli
[06:48] <hullo> sza1 what should i run to fix this?
[06:48] <Blue1> fishcooker: what is the grub issue?  what version ?
[06:48] <szal> Blue1: to be precise, upgrades of *buntu tend do be problematic, no idea why they don't seem to get it right, like e.g. openSUSE ^^
[06:48] <szal> !tab | hullo
[06:48] <Blue1> szal: yes, why I suggested fresh install.
[06:48] <szal> hullo: you might first want to answer my question
[06:49] <dannel> Blue1, I prefer to break things and then fix them :D although recently I upgraded from 10.10>11.04>11.10 and was surprised how perfect it was after upgrade.. even graphics still worked
[06:49] <fishcooker> blue1, http://www.howtoforge.com/how-to-upgrade-ubuntu-10.04-lucid-lynx-to-10.10-maverick-meerkat-desktop-and-server
[06:49] <hullo> where is the kernel from? idk
[06:49] <Blue1> YMMV applies
[06:50] <szal> hullo: I'd suggest uninstalling it
[06:50] <fishcooker> http://paste.ubuntu.com/778329/
[06:50] <hullo> szal: my question this whole time is how
[06:51] <Blue1> old grub and new ubuntu = problems -- well problems any way you go, less problems with newer grub
[06:51] <hullo> apt-get install grub?
[06:51] <Blue1> hullo: depends on why you are doing that?  old one called grub new one grub2 iirc
[06:52] <szal> hullo: e.g. 'sudo apt-get remove linux-image-2.6.31-20-generic'
[06:52] <hullo> grub (GNU GRUB 0.97)
[06:52] <LasNote> anyone know of a force gauge that would work at all with Ubuntu?
[06:52] <LasNote> it's not exactly something on the supported hardware list, heh
[06:52] <Blue1> force gauge? what is that?
[06:52] <szal> hullo: Grub1?  *buntu has been shipping Grub2 for 2.5 years now
[06:52] <hullo> theres the problem
[06:53] <hullo> i probably did that manually some time ago
[06:53] <fishcooker> how to override the grub problem when i do update from lucid to maverick
[06:53] <fishcooker> ?
[06:53] <fishcooker> if i do uninteractive update
[06:53] <szal> hullo: there's your problem then, Grub1 doesn't work w/ update-grub
[06:53] <fishcooker> many servers here
[06:53] <hullo> uninstalled grub2, replaced with grub thinking gthat was the package to use and grub (1) just dutifully did its job the best it could hahahah
[06:54] <hullo> thank you #ubuntu   Isn't it funny how stating a problem out loud can help you solve it?
[06:54] <makara> hi. DNS settings in /etc/resolv.conf are overwritten. Which conf must I add these to?
[06:55] <Blue1> hullo: this may/may not help -- and as always YMMV applies
[06:55] <hullo> yeah understood... i have a boot disc handy and a few other running pc's here
[06:56] <DeltaEpsilon> hi
[06:56] <DeltaEpsilon> when do I get the firefox 9 update form Ubuntu?
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[06:56] <Blue1> makara: stop
[06:56] <Prodego> ahhhh
[06:56] <Blue1> spamming
[06:56] <DeltaEpsilon> when do I get the firefox 9 update form Ubuntu?
[06:57] <Blue1> DeltaEpsilon: I had to get that from the mozilla site
[06:57] <szal> !paste | hullo
[06:58] <DeltaEpsilon> Blue1, how
[06:58] <Blue1> the guy with the /etc/resolv.conf problem -- see step 8:  http://pkill-9.com/making-ubuntudebian-linux-do-its-own-dns-domain-name-service/
[06:59] <Blue1> DeltaEpsilon: download the tar, and install the tar
[07:00] <robertzaccour> What parental control software would be good in Ubuntu? Something in the repos please. Thanks in advance.
[07:00] <szal> Blue1: please refrain from recommending unsupported ways of installing software
[07:00] <DeltaEpsilon> Blue1, will I get the update from ubuntu without upgrading my ubuntu?
[07:00] <szal> DeltaEpsilon: what *buntu version?
[07:00] <Blue1> DeltaEpsilon: affirm
[07:00] <DeltaEpsilon> 11.10
[07:00] <somsip_> DeltaEpsilon: the last FF upgrade took about 2 weeks form the first announcement to when it was in main repos
[07:00] <emartin> hi, i tried to get webgl working as per the instructions of this post: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=10482298&postcount=4 , but the drivers messed up other things and now i'm rying to remove them with ppa-purge. ppa-purge wants me to remove all of this stuff: http://paste.pocoo.org/show/524372/ is this normal?
[07:00] <emartin> *trying
[07:00] <szal> DeltaEpsilon: wait for the update to appear
[07:00] <Blue1> you can't get it from ubuntu no
[07:00] <Blue1> you have to get from the site
[07:01] <somsip_> DeltaEpsilon: in the meantime you will need to manually upgrae (not recommended) or use a PPA (not particularly recommended)
[07:01] <vouth> DeltaEpsilon: there's a ppa
[07:01] <szal> Blue1: yes, you do..  FF5, 6, 7, and 8 also came by way of updates
[07:01] <DeltaEpsilon> vouth, url?
[07:01] <vouth> DeltaEpsilon: I uess that's not recommended though.
[07:01] <somsip_> !ppa
[07:01] <vouth> DeltaEpsilon, just a minute…
[07:01] <Blue1> szal: could be I am on 64 bit ubuntu 10.10 and that;'s what I had to do
[07:01] <DeltaEpsilon> vouth, for me ppa is good enough
[07:01] <szal> vouth: no need for a PPA on Oneiric
[07:02] <szal> vouth: just some time to wait
[07:02] <OvermindDL1> So, randomly, sometime not for 10 minutes, something not for 10 days, X seems to freeze, even caplock does not toggle the light, screen freezes solid, sound still plays, etc...  I can ssh in, but if I kill X the screen does not vanish, if I kill gdm the screen does not vanish, I have tried using unity (which is broken for some reason), unit2d, kde, xfce, all with the same issue, what should I be looking for and how
[07:02] <OvermindDL1> to go about doing it?
[07:02] <emartin> anyone see my post? getting all of this when trying to purge a ppa: http://paste.pocoo.org/show/524372/
[07:02] <vouth> DeltaEpsilon: http://ppa.launchpad.net/mozillateam/firefox-stable/ubuntu
[07:03] <Blue1> OvermindDL1: I am slowly migrating from ubuntu to debian -- do not like unity, but that is a personal thang
[07:03] <vouth> szal: hmm. I wouldn't know; I'm on 10.10 :-D
[07:03] <OvermindDL1> Blue1: I primarily use KDE, so no worry for me, just testing all sorts of window managers though
[07:03] <OvermindDL1> Blue1: All lock up randomly...
[07:04] <pAt__> Blue1 just use LMDE for that.
[07:04] <DeltaEpsilon> vouth, Oneiric is not in there
[07:04] <Blue1> OvermindDL1: roger that
[07:04] <szal> OvermindDL1: probably a KDE problem; I had that occasionally too (2 or 3 times, nothing to worry about imho)
[07:04] <szal> OvermindDL1: what KDE version, btw?
[07:04] <vouth> DeltaEpsilon: hmm, ok. sorry about that
[07:04] <OvermindDL1> szal: Except I have also tried unity2d and xfce too
[07:04] <vouth> DeltaEpsilon: it worked for me
[07:04] <Blue1> for some reason kde won't run on this system
[07:04] <Blue1> nor xfce
[07:04] <OvermindDL1> szal: 4.7, but as stated...
[07:04] <bodoh> guys .. what's the best app for Nikon RAW photo?
[07:05] <szal> OvermindDL1: 4.7.what?
[07:05] <OvermindDL1> szal: I was running unity2d last time it locked up
[07:05] <OvermindDL1> szal: kde
[07:05] <bodoh> photoshop of course
[07:05] <szal> OvermindDL1: I'm asking for the 3rd digit
[07:05] <pAt__> bodoh it is Bibble5
[07:05] <OvermindDL1> szal: no clue what patch version, not running it up right now, can check apt if you want
[07:05] <OvermindDL1> szal: sec...
[07:06] <bodoh> is that an app pAt__ ?
[07:06] <bodoh> let me google it
[07:06] <OvermindDL1> szal: 4.7.3, but this locking up has been happening since I ran 4.4.x
[07:06] <pAt__> Nah. A real.program for real computers :)
[07:07] <bodoh> looks good pAt__
[07:07] <OvermindDL1> szal: and I have ran various other window managers too, X locks up in all cases, leaving no log either
[07:07] <bodoh> do you use it too?
[07:07] <pAt__> Yes
[07:07] <szal> OvermindDL1: but if it's also w/ other GUIs, then it's probably not KDE-related..  I only had it occasionally w/ Oneiric (and I use exclusively KDE); if it has a history of freezing, it's probably hardware-related
[07:07] <OvermindDL1> szal: Been happening to me since I installed 9.10 on this system
[07:07] <OvermindDL1> szal: Er, 9.04 I think I started with...
[07:07] <szal> OvermindDL1: but nonetheless you might want to update to KDE 4.7.4, it fixes a lot of Plasma crashing woes
[07:08] <OvermindDL1> szal: KDE has been quite solid for me, only seen the KDE Plasma Crash Dump window about twice the whole time I have ran it
[07:08] <bodoh> you pay or just download it pAt__ ?
[07:08] <OvermindDL1> szal: That is over a multi-year period obviously
[07:08] <OvermindDL1> szal: unity on the other hand, sorely broken
[07:08] <szal> OvermindDL1: 4.7.3 is crash-happy, hence the hint
[07:08] <OvermindDL1> szal: I have even ripped out ubuntu-desktop and all parts and reinstalled to no avail
[07:09] <OvermindDL1> szal: unity never seems to load, never get anything but a blank desktop
[07:09] <szal> OvermindDL1: Oneiric's original 4.7.2 isn't, and 4.7.4 isn't either, so you definitely don't want to stick w/ 4.7.3
[07:09] <OvermindDL1> szal: unit2d works though
[07:09] <pAt__> You have to pay for it bodoh. It is a professional raw converter
[07:09] <bodoh> ok
[07:10] <OvermindDL1> szal: is 4.7.4 not in the repositories yet?  Not even a full-upgrade wants to pull it
[07:10] <szal> OvermindDL1: it's been out for a week and a half or so
[07:10] <OvermindDL1> szal: Do you have a ppa for it?  Since it is apparently not in official channels yet?
[07:10] <bodoh> I'm downloading it pAt__ ... let me see it now
[07:10] <szal> OvermindDL1: and be sure to reboot after installing it
[07:11] <OvermindDL1> szal: Oh the lockup will force a reboot soon in any case...
[07:11] <szal> OvermindDL1: yes, it's a PPA, 4.7.3 isn't official either
[07:11] <bodoh> btw .. how about gimp? .. does it support nikon's raw shots too?
[07:11] <OvermindDL1> szal: No clue how I have 4.7.3 then, I *just* upgraded to 11.10 a few days ago
[07:11] <OvermindDL1> szal: Regarldess, crashing, been happening for years, just getting worse the past few months...
[07:11] <OvermindDL1> szal: Locking up*
[07:12] <szal> OvermindDL1: https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/ppa
[07:12] <OvermindDL1> szal: Any idea why killing gpm or X or anything does not clear my screen of the frozen interface?
[07:12] <OvermindDL1> szal: gdm*
[07:12] <robertzaccour> anyone recommend a good parental control software?
[07:12] <robertzaccour> for the internet
[07:12] <szal> OvermindDL1: no
[07:14] <OvermindDL1> szal: Oh, and for note, the alt+prtscn rseinub never clears the screen when hitting any of the letters, not until I hit b and the system reboots...
[07:14] <szal> rseinub?
[07:14] <OvermindDL1> szal: I thought that, being a kernel level kill command, would do it for sure
[07:15] <OvermindDL1> szal:  r resets the keyboard into ascii mode, s syncs the disks or something, etc...
[07:15] <OvermindDL1> szal: One of the keys kills *every* process but init, and my screen is *still* frozen though...
[07:16] <dr_willis> ati video?
[07:16] <OvermindDL1> Yes, an older 3870
[07:16] <OvermindDL1> dr_willis: I have tried ubuntu drivers, foss drivers, amd drivers, all make no change in the locking up
[07:17] <lahwran> df -h shows my root partition as having 199MB of space free, but gparted shows it as having 2.03GB free. anyone have any thoughts on what might cause such a large discrepancy?
[07:17] <dr_willis> the card is showing the memory if its last image buffer. seen ut befor.. ages ago
[07:17] <OvermindDL1> dr_willis: And nothing ever clears it?
[07:18] <OvermindDL1> dr_willis: I have a 5850 laying about, do you think that would make a difference or not?
[07:18] <dr_willis> OvermindDL1:  nwver really tried. thus was 6+ yrs ago
[07:18] <OvermindDL1> dr_willis: I am quite certain the 3870 is fine as it ran other OS's fine...
[07:18] <dr_willis> i dont use ati any mire
[07:19] <OvermindDL1> dr_willis: Not my option unfortunetly...
[07:19] <dr_willis> also seen framebyffers mess with ati. perhaps disable the db.
[07:19] <dr_willis> fb
[07:20] <OvermindDL1> fb?  framebuffer?  You can do that?
[07:20] <dr_willis> nofb option for grub
[07:21] <OvermindDL1> Hmm, what are the side effects of setting that?
[07:21] <szal> other than no shiny splash screen, I can't think of anything
[07:21] <szal> perhaps no MPlayer playback on the CLI
[07:21] <dr_willis> noquiet nosplash nofb      in etc/default/grub
[07:22] <dr_willis> may as well set grub to text mode also. :-)
[07:22] <dr_willis> old skool
[07:23] <OvermindDL1> Heh
[07:23] <OvermindDL1> I think I might still be using grub1 at that, had it here for a long long while
[07:23] <dr_willis> may be time for a clean install
[07:24] <OvermindDL1> Yeah, it has been, but this hard drive is tiny, been needing to replace it at that, and I *really* hate reinstalling everything...
[07:24] <dr_willis> reinstalling what wxactly
[07:24] <dr_willis> !clone
[07:25] <OvermindDL1> This computer is my 'play' computer, I have a few hundred to a thousand extra packages from apt, to about 100 server programs installed from source, to about 30 sites being hosted on this now to serve various interfaces for said servers...
[07:25] <dr_willis> i make a script to reinstall what i need
[07:26] <OvermindDL1> I have a couple of headless server that I run my real things on, but migrating this thing would be such a pain...
[07:26] <dr_willis> and how many do you use daily :-)
[07:27] <OvermindDL1> More then you would think...
[07:27] <dr_willis> copy hd to a vbox image. set it up in vbox..
[07:27] <dr_willis> then start on it fresh ;)
[07:27] <OvermindDL1> Been thinking of just buying yet another hard drive (already up to 7 in this thing) and install a new OS on it, keep my old one around to copy things and settings off of...
[07:28] <dr_willis> vbox nethod you could jyst have it running as normal
[07:29] <OvermindDL1> Heh, true, just have virtualbox use the physical hard drive...
[07:29] <dr_willis> no.. clone the hd to a image. safer
[07:30] <dr_willis> then move it to a different server
[07:30] <OvermindDL1> dr_willis: Kind of out of hard drives space, hence my really wanting a new hd....
[07:30] <ZiRiu> Hello. I come from #rmlp bearing gifts. If you do not have Samorost2 on steam add me and it's yours. http://steamcommunity.com/id/ZiRiu
[07:30] <ikonia> ZiRiu: please don't spam with offtopic nonsense
[07:30] <ikonia> ZiRiu: this channel is for ubuntu support, not steam friends
[07:30] <ZiRiu> NO ONE WILL TAKE MY DAMN GAME
[07:31] <ZiRiu> Been trying to give it away for days
[07:31] <ikonia> ZiRiu: enough - in this channel.
[07:31] <elky> because nobody trusts spammers
[07:31] <TeslaTony> Does it run on Ubuntu?
[07:31] <lotuspsychje> im trying to delete xvidcap config file to repair/reinstall, but cant find the file...any clue?
[07:32] <dr_willis> lotuspsychje:  checkd man xvidcap ?
[07:32] <ZiRiu> Who ever Catharsis is got it.
[07:32] <bodoh> pAt__: I've even got the torrent
[07:33] <bodoh> not bad ;0
[07:33] <DeltaEpsilon> my mouse is too sensitive
[07:33] <suigeneris> I'm on LiveCD now. the harddisk won't mount when I click on it in nautilus. does that mean it's dead?
[07:33] <makara> Blue1: This tutorial says I should remove the network manager. It seems like a risky and way complicated method of setting DNS dont you think?
[07:33] <lotuspsychje> dr_willis: i tryed almost everything to find it /etc, /home
[07:33] <harsh343> how to set environment variable in ubuntu 11.10 ? dr_willis ???
[07:33] <suigeneris> oh, it mounted
[07:33] <dr_willis> harsh343:  export foo=bar
[07:34] <szal> suigeneris: does it show up?  does it throw an error on trying to mount?  does it mount from the terminal?
[07:34] <harsh343> dr_willis, any link for study ?
[07:34] <dr_willis> harsh343:  1000+ bash tutorials and guides online
[07:35] <dr_willis> maby even over 9000..... ;)
[07:35] <dr_willis> !bash
[07:35] <suigeneris> szal: when I attempt to boot normally from harddisk, I end up with "Press S to skip mounting or M for manual recovery
[07:35] <dr_willis> harsh343:  perhaps delicious.com/dr_willis  in my bash tags
[07:36] <lotuspsychje> dr_willis: maybe xvidcap saves config in another sort of file?
[07:36] <dr_willis> lotuspsychje:  no idea. never used it. you did look in 'man xvidcap' ?
[07:37] <szal> suigeneris: then do NOT mount the HDD on the live CD & run 'fsck -Cf /dev/sdXY' (replace X and Y w/ the correct letter and number)
[07:37] <Gorilla_No_Baka> hello there... ! good morning from UK .. quick question lads..  what the heck am i doing wrong?  i can't write to /etc/X11/xorg.conf  it says permision denied.. look here at the script i am working on  http://pastebin.com/Tjy6AKnY
[07:37] <szal> suigeneris: for each partition
[07:37] <lotuspsychje> dr_willis: yes i did but can't find it, xvidcap is best screenrecorder ever for ubuntu (specific area recording to mpeg4)
[07:37] <naked89tt> How let laptop become wifi AP?
[07:38] <suigeneris> szal: I did. it said "No corruptions"
[07:38] <robertzaccour> anyone recommend a good internet parental control software for ubuntu?
[07:39] <lotuspsychje> dr_willis: seems like the bug for xvidcap (32 bit depth error) not solved yet neither
[07:39] <dr_willis> lotuspsychje:  no idea.. ive never heard of the app util today..
[07:39] <lotuspsychje> robertzaccour: maybe firefox addons exist to parent control?
[07:39] <Indiana> Hostapd for wireles ap
[07:39] <robertzaccour> lotuspsychje: I don't think they do
[07:40] <naked89tt> Indiana, yes  But how .I googled some,but cant work
[07:40] <dr_willis> robertzaccour:  they do exist
[07:40] <lotuspsychje> robertzaccour: did you check software centre?
[07:40] <robertzaccour> dr_willis: I'll look into it tomorrow. thanks dr_willis and lotuspsychje
[07:40] <dr_willis> and the opendns service has blocking at the dns level also
[07:40] <Gorilla_No_Baka> hello there... ! good morning from UK .. quick question lads..  what the heck am i doing wrong?  i can't write to /etc/X11/xorg.conf  it says permision denied.. look here at the script i am working on  http://pastebin.com/Tjy6AKnY
[07:41] <robertzaccour> lotuspsychje: I have windows on my computer. someone I know with Linux has issues with her 12 year old
[07:41] <dr_willis> 12 yr olds gong to naughty sites?
[07:41] <lotuspsychje> lol
[07:41] <Indiana> Uv got to check if ur wifi device supports master mode
[07:41] <robertzaccour> lotuspsychje: I bought her and her family a used netbook and windows 7 starter was slow so I installed Linux on it and she told me about her 12 year old's bad surfing habits lately
[07:41] <makara> and Im not spamming, Im just trying to install this system but there so many issues
[07:42] <lotuspsychje> robertzaccour: im not sure forbidding stuff is the right way on a free operating system :p
[07:42] <naked89tt> Indiana, I can do it with win7.
[07:43] <robertzaccour> lotuspsychje: well with kids involved porn prevention on a computer is necessary
[07:43] <dr_willis> naked89tt:  some wireless cards/drivers in linux might not have all the same features
[07:44] <suigeneris> robertzaccour: the other day I read about a solution. in /etc/hosts, 127.0.0.1 www.example.com
[07:44] <dr_willis> robertzaccour:  best tip. move the pc to a public area of the house.
[07:44] <naked89tt> dr_willis, so how can I konw it supports.
[07:44] <robertzaccour> dr_willis: its a netbook
[07:44] <lotuspsychje> robertzaccour: kids on linux and forbidding is a bad idea, next time they try paswword cracking software lol
[07:44] <OvermindDL1> Could always install a logger for the parents?
[07:44] <dr_willis> naked89tt:  no idea. but i have some similer issues iwth a few laptops
[07:45] <lotuspsychje> robertzaccour: best way is to talk and explain the kid...
[07:45] <naked89tt> dr_willis, thanks anyway
[07:45] <Your_Dog> Agreed on your adied, lotuspsychje.
[07:45] <Your_Dog> idea
[07:45] <Blue1> lotuspsychje: you just need a great password like:  MyBolognahasaf1stname,1tsH0mer
[07:45] <robertzaccour> lotuspsychje: she already tried that. I don't wanna try to coach her on parenting, I was just wanting to help her set up the security
[07:46] <lotuspsychje> Your_Dog: tnx :p
[07:46] <OvermindDL1> robertzaccour: Could set it up to log everything and forward the logs to the parents?  People tend to be a *lot* more careful when they know they are being watched...
[07:46] <dr_willis> robertzaccour:  ff extensions, opendns, perhaps that peerguard blocking  proxy
[07:47] <OvermindDL1> Could even screenshot every minute or so
[07:47] <lotuspsychje> robertzaccour: i would give a shot with firefox addons or software center
[07:47] <robertzaccour> ok thanks dr_willis lotuspsychje
[07:47] <Blue1> ScrambledGr33n3ggsandHam
[07:47] <dr_willis> point a wireless webcam at  his pc....  big brother is watchig
[07:48] <lotuspsychje> lol blue1
[07:48] <Your_Dog> blue1, that reminds me of xkcd's password entropy joke. http://xkcd.com/936/
[07:48] <Blue1> lotuspsychje: i use a some I don't like with a singer I don't like.  makes great passwords
[07:48] <lotuspsychje> !nanny
[07:49] <Blue1> lotuspsychje: like K00lJ3rkB13b3r
[07:49] <DeltaEpsilon> hi
[07:49] <lotuspsychje> robertzaccour: software center: nanny 2.31.1-0ubuntu4
[07:49] <szal> Blue1: what's a fist name? ;)
[07:49] <ciocc> Hi Why do the min/max buttons move from the right side to the left when the browser is maximuised
[07:49] <DeltaEpsilon> are there native gtk3 Banshee alternative for ubuntu?
[07:49] <dr_willis> !info nany
[07:49] <lotuspsychje> robertzaccour: http://projects.gnome.org/nanny
[07:50] <dr_willis> !info nanny
[07:50] <szal> dr_willis: typing skill fail ;)
[07:50] <dr_willis> n keybord worn out
[07:50] <suigeneris> Comparing bitmaps..vpf-10630: The on-disk and the correct bitmaps differs. Will be fixed later. <--- when is this "later"?
[07:50] <harmandeep> hi guys
[07:51] <OvermindDL1> While I am here, next question.  Unity, why does it not load, I get the background but no bar at top, none at left, nothing anywhere, stays like that until I kill gdm or so.  Unity2d works fine, but not Unity
[07:51] <robertzaccour> lotuspsychje: it says for gnome 2.28. would it work for 3.2?
[07:51] <harmandeep> can we install ubuntu on a USB key ? ( not by using LiveUSBV creator)
[07:51] <Blue1> szal: yes
[07:51] <lotuspsychje> oh tnx dr_willis
[07:51] <lotuspsychje> cool trigger
[07:51] <dr_willis> OvermindDL1:  unity wants 3d video support. and your setup is somehow not doing it right
[07:51] <Blue1> harmandeep: yes dd
[07:51] <harmandeep> dd what ?
[07:51] <DeltaEpsilon> are there native gtk3 Banshee alternative for ubuntu?
[07:51] <szal> Blue1: a fist name is yes?
[07:51] <lotuspsychje> robertzaccour: it should
[07:52] <dr_willis> harmandeep:  full install to a usb flash is also possible
[07:52] <robertzaccour> lotuspsychje: ok thanks
[07:52] <OvermindDL1> dr_willis: I definitely have 3d, games run just fine and very fast for example...
[07:52] <harmandeep> dd mine existing ubuntu installation to usb key ?
[07:52] <OvermindDL1> dr_willis: Does it make a log anywhere?
[07:52] <lotuspsychje> !info xvidcap
[07:52] <Blue1> harmandeep: recipe here:  http://pkill-9.com/creating-a-usb-flash-drive-for-a-debian-install/
[07:52] <dr_willis> OvermindDL1:  not sure.  unity 2d works on my netbook. but not unity.
[07:53] <Scott_S> harmandeep: You wish to move your current install to a USB Flash Drive>
[07:53] <almoxarife> OvermindDL1: xorg.log
[07:53] <dr_willis> harmandeep:  what do you want to do exactly?
[07:53] <OvermindDL1> dr_willis: No netbook here, 6 physical cores, 16 gigs ram, radeon 3870 video card, and get well over 100fps in minecraft, orcs must die, etc...
[07:53] <bodoh> bing is a nice search-engine
[07:53] <OvermindDL1> almoxarife: Xorg.log is, unrevealing...
[07:53] <bodoh> especially for porn
[07:53] <bodoh> try it
[07:53] <bodoh> look for image
[07:54] <auronandace> lotuspsychje: you can do it for different versions too
[07:54] <dr_willis> OvermindDL1:  see if it works on a live cd?
[07:54] <bodoh> so much better results than google
[07:54] <OvermindDL1> dr_willis: No cd drive, removed it to add more hard drives...
[07:54] <auronandace> !info xvidcap lucid | lotuspsychje
[07:54] <becker_11> the window buttons are switching from the right side when in windowed mode to the left side when the window is maximised how can I change this???
[07:54] <dr_willis> OvermindDL1:  so make a live flash
[07:54] <OvermindDL1> dr_willis: And no, no usb drives, I need to get some...
[07:54] <dr_willis> make grub boot the iso
[07:55] <OvermindDL1> dr_willis: It can do that?!
[07:55] <harmandeep> i wanna run Ubuntu from mine USB key (Persistent way) , actually i will be using Ubuntu via USB KEY on mine Old Desktop , replacing USB key with its HDD
[07:55] <lotuspsychje> tnx auronandace
[07:55] <dr_willis> becker_11:  because uity moves them to the panel.  never seen a way to move them (yet)
[07:55] <Blue1> dr_willis: you can just dd the iso to the usb drive - no need for makeing it bootable
[07:56] <dr_willis> OvermindDL1:  grub2 can boot  ubuntu iso files.. yes
[07:56] <almoxarife> OvermindDL1: can you pastebin xorg.log?
[07:56] <dr_willis> Blue1:  he has no usb...
[07:56] <OvermindDL1> dr_willis: Pretty sure I am still using grub1...
[07:56] <Blue1> dr_willis: skip that.
[07:56] <Scott_S> Harmandeep: You would have to install Ubutu to a USB Flash Drive, which can be done by simply selecting it as the install device.
[07:56] <becker_11> dr_willis, crap I'm setting up ubuntu 11.10 for my aunty & I'm trying to make the differences as minimal as possible
[07:56] <harmandeep> currently i am having an Ubuntu Lucid installation going on to sdb (USB key)
[07:56] <dr_willis> OvermindDL1:  so we are back to.... time to reinstall.. that may fix it all
[07:56] <OvermindDL1> almoxarife: Have no recent unity attempt, would need to leave and come back with it
[07:56] <Scott_S> Harmandeep: although, I'm unsure if the Ubuntu installer will list USB FDs as installable.
[07:56] <harmandeep> Scott_S: Same is going FTW
[07:57] <OvermindDL1> dr_willis: Yeah, leaning ever more that way...
[07:57] <dr_willis> becker_11:  try lubuntu perhaps
[07:57] <becker_11> Is it possible to hide the grub menu on boot so it just autoboots ubuntu?
[07:57] <szal> becker_11: differences to what?
[07:57] <becker_11> szal, windows
[07:57] <suigeneris> Comparing bitmaps..vpf-10630: The on-disk and the correct bitmaps differs. Will be fixed later. <--- when is this "later"?
[07:57] <dr_willis> becker_11:  yes. but it can cause other annoyances
[07:57] <Scott_S> Harmandeep: Keep in mind that flash drives are not designed for constant read/write and using it as the main drive will severely decrease its lifespan.
[07:57] <becker_11> dr_willis, no time she's picking it up later today
[07:58] <Tanthrix> Anyone know how to permanently rotate xorg screen 180 degrees? "Option" "Rotate" "right" gets me portrait, but I need full 180. Nvidia card if it makes any difference.
[07:58] <dr_willis> becker_11:  put some unity guide/links on her desktop
[07:58] <harmandeep> no worries
[07:58] <becker_11> dr_willis, oh well it's not a major issue I'll just leave it
[07:58] <harmandeep> formatted it as / with ext2
[07:58] <dr_willis> becker_11:  or install lubuntu-desktop and let her try them both
[07:58] <harmandeep> with no swap
[07:58] <Scott_S> Tanthrix: I believe when you select the option in the Screen Options, it remains as such until you select otherwise,
[07:59] <Tanthrix> Scott_S: Indeed, and it does stick in portrait mode when I have it set to "right". I'm not sure what the option for 180 degrees is.
[07:59] <dr_willis> harmandeep:  ive had more hds fail then usb flashs ;)
[07:59] <suigeneris> Tanthrix: how about "right" twice?
[07:59] <harmandeep> thats why hdd mfc.s were flooded , as they now make pathetic shits
[07:59] <Tanthrix> suigeneris: One sec, I will try.
[08:00] <Tanthrix> suigeneris: No joy, came up garbled with some sort of error I can't quite make out.
[08:00] <bodoh> sex and linux are related .. IMHO
[08:00] <OvermindDL1> My hitachi drives have been solid for near a decade now, all western digital drives are long since dead though...
[08:00] <harmandeep> bodoh: very much indeed
[08:00] <bodoh> I said 'linux' though .. not necessarily 'ubuntu'
[08:00] <suigeneris> Tanthrix: hmm
[08:00] <bodoh> people who use linux like kinky sex
[08:01] <harmandeep> we get deeper and deeper and enjoy
[08:01] <suigeneris> bodoh: because they both end in x?
[08:01] <harmandeep> :P
[08:01] <Scott_S> Bodoh: Please refrain from speaking about such topics here. This channel is for Ubuntu support only, for other topics, please go to #ubuntu-offtopic
[08:02] <opticlove> what filetype are theme packages for gnome?
[08:02] <bodoh> just like they like kinky OS
[08:02] <bodoh> but then .. ubuntu sanitizes it
[08:02] <bodoh> so, think of ubuntu as the feminine pad .. when you do it raw way during her period
[08:02] <ikonia> tar
[08:02] <suigeneris> !ot | bodoh
[08:02] <ikonia> bodoh: stop talking nonsense now -
[08:03] <Tanthrix> Man, there is just nothing on google about this. Surely I can't be the only nut job with a monitor mounted upside down with a need to rotate 180 degrees.
[08:03] <Scott_S> Tanthrix: Go to "Displays" then choose "Rotation: 180 degrees"
[08:04] <becker_11> whats the recommended way to install googles chrome? via google or the software centre?
[08:04] <suigeneris> Tanthrix: out of curiosity. why do you have it upside down?
[08:04] <Scott_S> becker_11: sudo apt-get install chromium-browser
[08:04] <bodoh> it's Tanthrix fault ;(
[08:04] <bodoh> for being so suggestive
[08:04] <Tanthrix> Scott_S: Is that a gnome thing? I'm afraid I'm using fluxbox.
[08:04] <becker_11> Scott_S, chromium isn't chrome though
[08:04] <Tanthrix> suigeneris: I've got the screen mounted up high on a wall for a mythtv machine. The viewing angle is terrible when you're down below it. (ie, blacks look terrible)
[08:04] <bodoh> see .... Tanthrix uses that raw fluxbox ... Sx is related to Lx
[08:04] <szal> bodoh: yeah sure, blame your lack of discipline on others..
[08:05] <Scott_S> Tanthrix: It is part of the Ubuntu Settings. I am unsure whether it'll do it automatically for Fluxbox.
[08:05] <bodoh> Fx .. should I say ;)
[08:05] <Tanthrix> Found it!
[08:05] <bodoh> I use Fx too actually ... it's the best in many way
[08:05] <Tanthrix> Option Inverted did the trick
[08:05] <Scott_S> Tanthrix: Good to hear you got it working.
[08:05] <Tanthrix> Now the next step is to see if vdpau, v-sync, and all that good stuff work when the screen is inverted...
[08:06] <bodoh> when someone from Greece uses Linux ... why I'm not that surprised .. eh?
[08:06] <bodoh> free stuff?
[08:06] <suigeneris> brb. got to re-install
[08:06] <sandra> Hello my fellow Ubuntu inmates :-)
[08:07] <opticlove> ok so if i go to system -> preferences - appearance, what is that?
[08:07] <suigeneris> !ot | bodoh (for the second time)
[08:07] <sandra> I trust you all find yourselves well .
[08:07] <Tanthrix> .....and the answer is "nope." Shoot, looks like there is no acceleration of any kind in rotated mode.
[08:07] <opticlove> gtk 2.x? gnome shell?
[08:07] <Tanthrix> MythTV won't even open, since it's GL.
[08:07] <EvilResistance> sandra:  indeed.  do you have a support question?
[08:07] <sandra> I do indeed :-)
[08:08] <EvilResistance> sandra:  feel free to ask the channel then :)
[08:08] <sandra> I'd like to know if by some miracle is there a way to bring back the classic desktop to Ubuntu 11.10 ?
[08:09] <EvilResistance> sandra:  define "classic desktop"
[08:09] <qiyong> dns works well though
[08:09] <qiyong> w and who displays hostname as IP, how to let it display hostname?
[08:10] <sandra> I am currently using Ubuntu 11.04 w/out Unity and well I find the older classic desktop to be more efficient  and particle for day to day use.
[08:10] <EvilResistance> sandra:  the older gnome-without-unity in 11.04 is gnome-shell / "Ubuntu Classic"
[08:10] <szal> !notunity | sandra
[08:10] <EvilResistance> in 11.10 i dont think they have gnome 2's desktop
[08:10] <EvilResistance> but read ubottu there
[08:11] <Scott_S> sandra: sudo apt-get install gnome-desktop gnome-tweak-tool
[08:11] <Scott_S> ... woops.
[08:11] <sandra> I find that I'm hampered by quiet a few glitches on the Unity desktop found on 11.10.
[08:11] <EvilResistance> sandra:  well 11.10 uses GNOME 3, not GNOME 2.  11.04 iirc uses GNOME 2
[08:11] <dr_willis> unity is a work in progress
[08:11] <Scott_S> sandra: sudo apt-get install gnome-shell gnome-tweak-tool (That should work)
[08:12] <Scott_S> sandra: Then select "Gnome" when logging in as the Desktop environment.
[08:12] <dr_willis> gnome-shell and uity both are getting  better all the time
[08:13] <sandra> I appreciate the thoughtful responses. Please forgive my ignorance my son the HP software engineer put Ubuntu 11.04 on my desktop and well truth be told I have found it be a wonderful alternative to windows.
[08:14] <au_fait> ?
[08:14] <Scott_S> sandra: It definitely is a very useful and user-friendly version of Linux.
[08:17] <sandra> I will look into these alternatives and tools for Unity and Gnome 3. I did  try Ubuntu 11.10 but noticed I had problems with my nvidia drivers both the default and current 290 driver and then Skype also malfunctioned on me, and Skype is a essential application for me both personally and professionally .
[08:18] <stevejb> anyone have a moment to help diagnose a gnome-shell issue I am seeing on 11.10?
[08:18] <sandra> I'm just at a loss as to why my video drivers work flawlessly under Ubuntu 11.04 as well as Skype. And yet does not under Ubuntu 11.10
[08:18] <ok_wait> does anybody know anything about plasma-desktop leaving behind artifacts like this http://picpaste.com/Workspace_1_024-3ie5JKam.jpeg even after plasma-desktop has been killed?
[08:18] <ikonia> sandra: because it's a different version
[08:18] <ikonia> sandra: both are closed sourced product, so not under the control of ubuntu
[08:18] <Scott_S> Heyyy ikonia is back.
[08:18] <ok_wait> i can click through that menu in red
[08:19] <sandra> ikonia: I appreciate that but I do believe Skype is a customized version made for Ubuntu 11.10
[08:19] <becker_11> Am going to have to install Ubuntu 11.10 on my laptop later haven't used it since 9.04 prefering my custom debian install instead but need to familarise myself with the changes
[08:19] <ikonia> sandra: you are wrong
[08:20] <jubei> hello. I am trying to setup vnc server on my box but I"ve found a bunch of different guides each of them proposes a different way
[08:20] <jubei> anybody with a sure-fire way to get vnc server on my currently running gnome desktop?
[08:20] <ikonia> jubei: there are many ways
[08:21] <jubei> ikonia, well.. ideally one that doesn't require lots of time to set up:)
[08:21] <ikonia> jubei: all require effort to do it well, how long that effort takes depends on your abilities
[08:21] <lotrpy> hello, apt-get remove fping will remove fping and zabbix-server-mysql, why it will remove zabbix-server-mysql?
[08:21] <jubei> ikonia, any suggestions?
[08:21] <ikonia> jubei: no
[08:21] <Tanthrix> So, I'm reading the nvidia forums, and I haven't seen a single mention of acceleration not working when rotating. Anyone know if that is the case?
[08:22] <sandra> ikonia: I suggest you look at the source package and where it comes from and well on Ubuntu forums and website it states that the skype package is customized for use by the Ubuntu team.
[08:22] <ikonia> sandra: you can't look at the source package - it's closed source
[08:22] <ikonia> sandra: please show me on the ubuntu website where it says skype is a custom version for ubuntu ?
[08:23] <lotrpy> hello, when I apt-get remove fping will remove fping and zabbix-server-mysql, why it will remove zabbix-server-mysql? it's ubuntu 11.10
[08:23] <ikonia> lotrpy: does zabbix-server-mysql depend on that package ?
[08:23] <dr_willis> jubei:  it depends on your needs and how you will use vnc also
[08:23] <dr_willis> !info fping
[08:23] <jubei> dr_willis, I just want to see my desktop and click around, nothing fancy like file transfers etc
[08:24] <dr_willis> jubei:  over local lan? you mean current visible desktop? or hidden remote desktop...
[08:25] <jubei> dr_willis, currently logged-in desktop, over the internet, no hidden stuff
[08:25] <dr_willis> jubei:  try teamviewer
[08:25] <jubei> dr_willis, kk, thanks.
[08:27] <Scott_S> jubei: Ubuntu has a VNC server installed by default.
[08:27] <dr_willis> Scott_S:  but over the internet. i dont think that works.
[08:27] <dr_willis> at least not securely
[08:27] <jubei> Scott_S, doesn't work unfortunately. I tried the "remote desktop" thingie
[08:27] <dr_willis> !vnc
[08:28] <Scott_S> dr_willis: It does. You simply need to open the required port on your router to your local IP address.
[08:28] <jubei> Scott_S, for some reason it does't work on my box
[08:28] <dr_willis> jubei:  ive had issues with it i the past also.
[08:29] <dr_willis> jubei:  depeding on what you are doing, you could just use ssh and x forwarding
[08:31] <sandra> ikonia: Skype is customized for use on Oneiric and comes via oneiric channel . In any case my point was and is that Skype works flawlessly for me on Ubuntu 11.04 and that it doesn't on Ubuntu 11.10 because of a implementation of "Arch i386 file system that is suppose to enhance the use of 32 bit code on a 64 bit operating system which in my novice opinion remains to be seen.
[08:32] <Guest8134> witm
[08:35] <lyrae> how do i findout if an unmounted drive is hda1 or hdb1, etc
[08:36] <dr_willis> lyrae:  'sudo fdisk -l' msy give some info, sudo blkid, perhaps other ways
[08:36] <lyrae> dr_willis, fdisk didi t. ty
[08:36] <wawrek> what is the best command line based package manager for ubuntu?
[08:37] <dr_willis> wawrek:  i just use apt-get as needed
[08:37] <dr_willis> !apt
[08:37] <wawrek> one thing i realy liked about gentoo is portage
[08:38] <wawrek> i use it, I also found aptitude
[08:38] <dr_willis> apt-get or aptitude are the 2 options.
[08:38] <wawrek> thanks
[08:39] <dr_willis> it    pays to get your apt fu skills up.
[08:42] <xtgyal> Hello, I cannot get Unicode to display in Ubuntu 10.04 Firefox 3.6.  Spanish-language text displays as: colecciÃ³n de pelÃ­culas y programas de televisiÃ³n
[08:42] <becker_11> I've just been reading a ubuntu documentation article for the ati radeion free driver but it doesn't mention how to install it Any ideas/suggests pls?
[08:45] <xtgyal> never mind, I forgot <meta charset="utf-8"> it works now
[08:51] <becker_11> I've checked the software centre and it only lists the propriety driver for ati radeon cards how can I install the free drier mentioned here
[08:51] <becker_11> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RadeonDriver
[08:54] <Henric_> Hello. I was hoping someone could help me with a problem I have. My system is dual booted with XP and oneric ocelot. When I select ubuntu from the chainloader it drops me to a black grub screen that recognizes almost no commands. Can't do sudo or anything. Something is broken. Please help.
[08:55] <urlin2u> Henric_, is this a fresh install of oneiric?
[08:55] <Henric_> urlin2u_, no I've run it for a while.
[08:56] <Henric_> I suspect it's something in the MBR or swap file that's messing with me.
[08:56] <urlin2u> Henric_, so when you say chainloader you mean the grub menu right?
[08:58] <urlin2u> Henric_ the mbr can be reloaded, the swap shouldn't be making any diffrence here.
[08:58] <Henric_> urlin2u_, no, sorry, it's XPs dual boot option. Normally when selcting ubuntu I would get the grub loader (normal, recovery, etc.), the purple screen. But now it's just a black screen that gives me a command prompt.
[08:58] <sweb> can in completly reinstall my os just with ssh access ?
[08:59] <sweb> repartitioning and etc ...
[08:59] <urlin2u> Henric_, is this a wubi install?
[08:59] <Henric_> urlin2u_, yes.
[09:00] <dr_willis> sweb:  i dont think so.
[09:00] <Henric_> urlin2u_, I also have a live CD which I made in an attempt to fix all this.
[09:00] <urlin2u> Henric_, have you considered a real dual boot you can get into the ubuntu to save what you need from XP.
[09:00] <urlin2u> media etc
[09:00] <sweb> dr_willis: http://askubuntu.com/questions/13106/how-can-i-install-ubuntu-on-a-headless-machine. it will just replace it ?
[09:01] <dr_willis> sweb:  not without some extra work at least
[09:01] <Henric_> urlin2u_, that would be perfect. I have no problem reinstalling the system, but I have some files I'd like to get off it first.
[09:01] <urlin2u> Henric_, basically wubi was not designed for long term use,
[09:01] <sweb> dr_willis: which is exactly require for this ?
[09:01] <dr_willis> sweb:  ive not seen an installer that has ssh on it.
[09:01] <sweb> dr_willis: which is required ? kvm ?
[09:02] <Henric_> urlin2u_, so I'm better off installing it from the live CD?
[09:02] <becker_11> I give up the colours are crap on this monitor so I'll just install the proprietary drivers
[09:02] <dr_willis> sweb:  i just dd a image from flash drive normally.
[09:02] <urlin2u> Henric_, I believe you can get your stuff out through the ubuntu file in XP, I haven't done it myself though. If I had a fix for the ubuntu i would suggest it but I'm not sure there myself.
[09:03] <Henric_> How do I get the stuff through the ubuntu file in XP?
[09:04] <urlin2u> Henric_, you will have to look in the ubuntu file there are a couple of users on the ubuntu forums who are probably your best bet as far as any recovery.
[09:05] <urlin2u> maybe a fix as well hard to say
[09:06] <Henric_> urlin2u_, I can do a proper install (which I thought this was), especially if I can get the files off.
[09:06] <urlin2u> Henric_, not a lot of wubi users in this channel, it is much busier during the day US tiome here.
[09:07] <Henric_> urlin2u_, no sweat. I'll bite the bullet and reinstall. Are you saying that wubi basically let's me run ubuntu within XP? I always thought that it was just one of the ways of installing it ubuntu?
[09:08] <dr_willis> you can mount the wubi file from a live cd..andcopy stuff from it. or backup the whole wubi dir smewhere
[09:08] <dr_willis> Henric_:  it boots linux frm the files
[09:09] <dr_willis> xp isnot loaded
[09:09] <dr_willis> !wubi
[09:11] <mang0> Is there any way I can get more than 4 workspaces?
[09:11] <urlin2u> Henric_, here is the wubi wiki it does mention running a chkdsk /r if the XP has had some bad shutdowns and the ubuntu wont boot your choce here.
[09:12] <urlin2u> Henric_, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WubiGuide#Cannot_boot_into_Ubuntu
[09:12] <Henric_> Great. I'm starting to get what you're all saying here. If I understand you correctly, I can run ubuntu from the live CD, mount the wubi file as a volume, grab what I need and put it somewhere safe, and then do a fresh install of ubuntu. Sound about right? And thanks for the wiki.
[09:12] <dr_willis> Henric_: you got it
[09:13] <Worldwider> hello people
[09:13] <urlin2u> mang0, what release and what desktop?
[09:14] <Worldwider> good morning
[09:14] <Henric_> Awesome. That's what I'll do. Thanks for all the help!
[09:14] <mang0> urlin2u: gnome2, 11.04, 32 bit.
[09:14] <Worldwider> i want help to install tar.gz files in ubuntu 11.10
[09:15] <urlin2u> mang0, unity? have you set up the cube?
[09:15] <urlin2u> mang0, or the fallback desktop?
[09:15] <mang0> urlin2u: I said gnome :P
[09:15] <mang0> Not unity
[09:15] <llutz_> Worldwider: "tar xjf foo.tar.gz"
[09:15] <llutz_> Worldwider: "tar xzf foo.tar.gz"    sry
[09:16] <Worldwider>  i want help to install tar.gz files in ubuntu 11.10
[09:16] <mang0> urlin2u: I tried unity, the launch bar dock thing didn't work, so I went back to gnome.
[09:16] <DarsVaeda> Hi, I copy files from one to another folder in nautilus, but it does not copy all files ?!?
[09:16] <llutz_> Worldwider: command shown above will extract it. read README or whatever comes with the tarball, how to proceed
[09:16] <Janith> Worldwider: read the INSTALL file
[09:17] <Worldwider> hey can somebody help me?
[09:17] <llutz_> Worldwider: can you read?
[09:18] <ssisc> hii i am having some issues in ubuntu 9.04
[09:18] <ikonia> ssisc: sure, whats up, keep in mind that 9.04 is dead, end of life
[09:18] <ssisc> plz check this link
[09:18] <ssisc> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=11542005
[09:18] <urlin2u> mang0, probably with compiz not sure really with the cube I can add extra.
[09:18] <urlin2u> mang0, I don't know if conpiz is the default manager in the fallback.
[09:18] <mang0> Worldwider: A tar.gz file is like a .zip file. It's not runnable, it's only a compressed group of files/folders. Use the command llutz_ said to extract the files, and then view the Readme file.
[09:19] <ikonia> ssisc: never used that software, so I can't help.
[09:19] <mang0> urlin2u: How do I find out what window manager I'm using?
[09:19] <ssisc> Hangul and Hanja keys are not working (Korean/English toggle key)
[09:20] <Worldwider> urlin2u  i want help to install tar.gz files in ubuntu 11.10?
[09:20] <ikonia> Worldwider: what software do you want to install ?
[09:20] <ssisc> anyone came across this issue before
[09:20] <ssisc> ??
[09:21] <Janith> Ssisc: no me
[09:21] <sweb> how can i upgrade my ubuntu to new version via ssh
[09:21] <ssisc> ohk
[09:21] <urlin2u> mang0, somebody here knows they will help you out as far as more desktops justa bit slow right now.
[09:21] <ikonia> sweb: it's not something that's advised for a desktop install
[09:21] <ikonia> !upgrade | sweb
[09:21] <ikonia> the processes is listed ther
[09:21] <ikonia> there
[09:22] <mang0> urlin2u: Ah, okay. Thanks!
[09:22] <urlin2u> mang0, better somebody who knows rather then me guessing.
[09:22] <mang0> urlin2u: Sure, np.
[09:23] <ikonia> Worldwider: what software do you want to install ?
[09:24] <Worldwider> ikonia it's fgrun
[09:24] <Worldwider> it's a flightgear assistant
[09:24] <ikonia> !find fgrun
[09:25] <dirtydaw1> .
[09:25] <ikonia> interesting, there is an interesting package for MOTU
[09:25] <ikonia> Worldwider: ok, what's the issue ?
[09:25] <somsip> Worldwider: what version of ubuntu are you running?
[09:26] <DirtyDawg> .
[09:26] <ikonia> DirtyDawg: please stop that
[09:27] <DirtyDawg> k, just setting up my irssi, couldnt see what my nickname was
[09:27] <llutz_> DirtyDawg: /nick    tells you, no need to spam
[09:27] <SunTsu> DirtyDawg: irssi normally shows that in your status line, right before your user modes
[09:27] <DirtyDawg> ahh
[09:28] <DirtyDawg> i removed the status line
[09:28] <SunTsu> DirtyDawg: then see above what llutz_ just wrote. Anyway, this is getting more spam than the initial deed ;)
[09:28] <DirtyDawg> lol, k mate, sorry again
[09:30] <Worldwider> somsip it's 11.10
[09:31] <Worldwider> somsip?
[09:31] <somsip> Worldwider: wait
[09:31] <Worldwider> ok :-)
[09:31] <Guest40999> [B[B[B[B[B[B[B[B[B[B[B[B[B[B
[09:31] <Guest40999> hi all
[09:32] <somsip> Worldwider: this page refers to "brisa's script" and someone who had success using it to install on 11.10
[09:32] <somsip> http://www.flightgear.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=14630&p=144589
[09:32] <somsip> Worldwider: this page seems to have "brisa's script" http://wiki.flightgear.org/Scripted_Compilation_on_Linux_Debian/Ubuntu
[09:34] <Henric_> OK, so I ran into a small problem... Where is the wubi file located?
[09:35] <Humbedooh> wubi.exe?
[09:35] <Janith> Worldwider: why don't you use software centre?
[09:35] <Guest40999> hi all , ive got a rtl8187 usb adapter, it worked fine until a couple days ago, on 2 systems it doesnt associate with any AP, not with wpa_supplicant nor with wicd, or nm-applet, ive user rmmod , rfkill , replugging it, different usb ports, different antenna , open networks.
[09:35] <kltrg> My /boot partition is nearly full and I get a warning every time I reboot my system. I already deleted old kernel packages (linux-headers...), actually I did that to install a newer kernel version that came with the automatic updates. After installing that new version, the partition is nearly full again. So what else can I delete? Are there some other files associated to the old kernel images?#
[09:36] <Worldwider> janith it has not fgrun
[09:36] <Worldwider> fgrun is only a assistant
[09:37] <Janith> Worldwider: oh!
[09:37] <Henric_> Humbedooh_, no, the wubi file that can be mounted once you're running from the live CD. My original wubi install is shot and I'm trying to recover some files before I do a clean reinstall.
[09:37] <Worldwider> software center has only flightgear
[09:39] <Henric_> Snille_, svensk?
[09:39] <Humbedooh> uhm, /path/to/install/disks/root.disk ?
[09:40] <Janith> Guys, I want to resiz my partitions without damaging files. Is there any software like partition magic?
[09:40] <somsip> !parted | Janith
[09:40] <somsip> !gparted
[09:41] <Gorilla_No_Baka> guys ... what am i doing wrong? anybody>?  I am trying to run a script i made ( here is the script   http://pastebin.com/gD9mtMAj  ) and   here is a screenshot http://i40.tinypic.com/1z3bic8.png   any ideas?
[09:42] <Henric_> Humbedooh_, no, I was thinking this would have to be somewhere in my windows folders (I'm dual booted with XP), wouldn't it?
[09:42] <Janith> Somsip: can it resize the ubuntu installed partition?
[09:43] <somsip> Gorilla_No_Baka: xorg.conf probably needs sudo access to write
[09:43] <somsip> Janith: what sort of partitions - all linux, or mix of windows and linux, or wubi and windows?
[09:43] <dagerik> Gorilla_No_Baka: set the permission bit, and run the script like this: $ sudo ./script.sh
[09:44] <Humbedooh> it is, henric
[09:44] <Janith> Somsip: mix of win. and linux
[09:44] <Gorilla_No_Baka> dagerik:  set the permision bit as in?  i am only a biginer whe it comes to scripts
[09:44] <happy20> hi
[09:44] <dagerik> dagerik: You use chmod for this. Look it up in the shell: man chmod
[09:44] <Humbedooh> in c:\whatever\disks\root.disk
[09:44] <Humbedooh> where you installed wubi
[09:44] <happy20> i am using ubuntu lts as a guest using virtualbox how do i set the screen resolution there, its very small
[09:45] <somsip> Janith: it'll be fine with win and linux. Well..there are no guarantees with changes to partitions so make sure you are backed up, but I've used gparted a few times to resize live partitions without data loss
[09:45] <llutz_> happy20: install guest-additions
[09:45] <happy20> i installed
[09:45] <SunTsu> Gorilla_No_Baka: that screenshot is strange. you run bash script and get a sudo password prompt although all sudo calls in that script are commented away?
[09:45] <SunTsu> Gorilla_No_Baka: Looks like it's telling only half the story
[09:45] <happy20> liutz_ i have installed but that's not doing anything, should i mount it? if yes, how do i do that?
[09:46] <happy20> i in fact installed the guest addition in ubuntu lts after starting it in virtual box
[09:46] <Gorilla_No_Baka> SunTsu:  that was before ... small mistake typing sudo in front of cd
[09:46] <Gorilla_No_Baka> :)
[09:46] <Henric_> Humbedooh, OK, I see what you mean. But does that hold all the data? It's not just the wubi.exe, right?
[09:47] <Gorilla_No_Baka> as you can see is removed from the script now
[09:47] <dagerik> Gorilla_No_Baka: Have you looked up the chmod program?
[09:47] <Humbedooh> it's an image of your ubuntu disk
[09:47] <Humbedooh> so it should be something like 16GB in size or such
[09:47] <happy20> ok
[09:47] <happy20> not
[09:47] <biopyte> hi. i have a problem the terminal bell not ringing  .... echo -e '\a'  and stuff ... no sound .... any idea?
[09:48] <Gorilla_No_Baka> dagerik:   yeah no probs.. what i am trying to understand is what file to you wht me to chmode?
[09:48] <llutz_> happy20: sudo mount /dev/sr0 /mnt   then run the installerscript, sudo /mnt/.....
[09:48] <happy20> i installed the guest addition from ubuntu software center
[09:48] <happy20> llutz_: after i start the ubuntu machine?
[09:48] <llutz_> happy20: did you restart after installation?
[09:48] <Humbedooh> biopyte, do you have any sound at all? ;>
[09:48] <SunTsu> Gorilla_No_Baka: yes, and a big mistake in not using sudo for that touch, you don't have permissions to create/change that file. I'd copy it to your directory anyway, append stuff, copy it back using sudo and chmod/chown it there using sudo
[09:48] <happy20> yes
[09:48] <happy20> yes i did restart
[09:49] <happy20> after installing guest addition in the guest ubuntu lts
[09:49] <biopyte> Humbedooh, yes ... mp3, movies ... sound is fine
[09:49] <Gorilla_No_Baka> ok.. lemme try again
[09:49] <Henric_> Humbedooh, OK, now I just have to remember where I installed it...
[09:49] <dagerik> Gorilla_No_Baka: To be able to run a file, it must be executable. Then you caan go $ ./script     This was semirelated to your problem.
[09:49] <Humbedooh> is it a terminal client window on the desktop/
[09:49] <Humbedooh> ?
[09:50] <Gorilla_No_Baka> dagerik:  the script is already set as executable..
[09:50] <biopyte> Humbedooh, internal speaker, of course
[09:50] <Gorilla_No_Baka> otherwise i would not have been able to call it from  te terminal using bash
[09:50] <biopyte> Humbedooh, good question ... i have to find out exactly what kind of terminal it is
[09:50] <biopyte> one moment
[09:51] <SunTsu> Gorilla_No_Baka: the way you do, using "bash $script" there's no need for execution rights, because you don't execute the script but the interpreter
[09:51] <SunTsu> Gorilla_No_Baka: if you'd call it ./script _then_ you would need +x on it
[09:52] <biopyte> Humbedooh, its a gnome-terminal and i activated Terminal Bell in the settings
[09:52] <biopyte> no beep
[09:52] <Humbedooh> have you tried "xset b on"?
[09:52] <biopyte> no, one moment
[09:53] <Gorilla_No_Baka> SunTsu:  i'm losing you... are you sugesting to modifiy the name of the file to  something else?
[09:53] <Janith> Somsip: Thank you. It seems working.
[09:53] <somsip> Janith: cool
[09:54] <SunTsu> Gorilla_No_Baka: no, I was just disagreeing with you telling us that you couldn't do "bash script" the way you do without execution permissions on that script file
[09:54] <biopyte> Humbedooh, still no beep after "xset b on"
[09:54] <biopyte> echo -e '\a'
[09:55] <Gorilla_No_Baka> so should i chmode x the touchpad file before calling it from ther termnal again
[09:55] <Gorilla_No_Baka> ?
[09:55] <biopyte> standard ubuntu install 11.04
[09:55] <biopyte> i check .bashrc
[09:55] <SunTsu> Gorilla_No_Baka: basically it doesn't matter. I actually would matter if you wanted to execute that script directly, unlike what you are doing
[09:56] <SunTsu> It*
[09:56] <Humbedooh> biopyte, try running "xrdb -query" and see if the config might tell you something
[09:56] <biopyte> ok
[09:56] <Humbedooh> other than that, I don't think I have that many solutions
[09:57] <biopyte> xrdb output gives me no clue .... dpi, antialias and stuff
[09:58] <Gorilla_No_Baka> dagerik:  the script is already set as executable.. automizing the touchpart support make it automatic..  i could use some hand helding here...
[09:58] <Gorilla_No_Baka> boolck]
[09:58] <Gorilla_No_Baka> \damt
[09:58] <Gorilla_No_Baka> stupid
[09:59] <dagerik> Gorilla_No_Baka: Go ahead ask your questions.
[09:59] <biopyte> Humbedooh, "speaker" in alsamixer is set to "0"
[09:59] <Gorilla_No_Baka> SunTsu: .. i am speaking in a foreign language.. been away all night long working on a script that with only one click will set all the desired gsettings and gconf preferences , download desired apps installs them  removes undeded stuff and now this is the only part where i am stuck a ... as i was saying before i deleted by mistake the other line i wrote... i could use some hand helding here
[09:59] <Gorilla_No_Baka> dagerik:  SunTsu  cheers guys
[10:00] <Humbedooh> well that might explain something I guess :>
[10:00] <Gorilla_No_Baka> SunTsu:  is trying to tell me something.. i m  afraid it foes right over my head
[10:00] <Gorilla_No_Baka> goes
[10:00] <biopyte> Humbedooh, i guess ... but i cant change the value .... where can i change it?
[10:01] <Humbedooh> tried sudo alsamixer? :<
[10:01] <biopyte> again, sound is working listenig to mp3 and stuff
[10:01] <dagerik> Gorilla_No_Baka: I suggest you go and google "bash tutorial". Can be very educational.
[10:01] <biopyte> sudo ... ok
[10:02] <llutz_> biopyte: sudo modprobe pcspkr
[10:02] <Gorilla_No_Baka> dagerik:  been doing that for the last 2 days mate.. chhers.. however i could not find an answer to what i am not able to create a file in /etc and write to it.. I understand is because of teh permision .. but i tought the touchpad script was already set as executable.. both from terminal and from the GUI
[10:03] <biopyte> llutz, i tried that already ... one moment i have to figure out how to change the alsamixer setting
[10:03] <dagerik> Gorilla_No_Baka: If you read a tutorial, you would see that you can use echo and > to write data to files. Or you could use the >> to append to files.
[10:03] <SunTsu> Gorilla_No_Baka: my version would be http://pastebin.com/NPCSbZeR - but attention, this is untested, better double-check it
[10:04] <SunTsu> dagerik: which he already did, see his previous pastey
[10:04] <Gorilla_No_Baka> SunTsu:  dagerik  cheers guys!
[10:05] <Stanley00> SunTsu: I think you should "escape" the quote (")
[10:05] <Gorilla_No_Baka> guys.. thanks again..
[10:06] <SunTsu> Stanley00: yeah, you're right, I only copied that part from Gorilla_No_Baka's script
[10:07] <Gorilla_No_Baka> hey what qute do i need to lose ? the one after echo?
[10:07] <mang0> Ohgod
[10:07] <mang0> I've got a bsod on a certain workspace O.O
[10:08] <mang0> fixed *phew*
[10:08] <freedom7> mang0, you close the jpg screenshot of a windows pc?
[10:09] <mang0> teehee freedom7, no chrome crashed blue
[10:09] <Stanley00> Gorilla_No_Baka: do you want all line from section to endsection goes into xorg.conf?
[10:09] <Gorilla_No_Baka> Stanley00:  err (faceslap) that was the original idea
[10:09] <Gorilla_No_Baka> :)
[10:10] <Stanley00> Gorilla_No_Baka: did you hear about the "HERE document" ?
[10:10] <Humbedooh> mang0, pfft - I've had a worse day :p
[10:10] <biopyte> Humbedooh, in alsamixer i unmuted 'Beep' and raised the dB ... 'Speaker' dB cant be changed .... still no BEEP after all
[10:10] <Randolph> hi all
[10:10] <Gorilla_No_Baka> the quotes.. would have prevented the lines to be written even if i had permissions..  the her edocument  nice when you have to deal with lots of text...
[10:10] <Gorilla_No_Baka>  but for few lines i thought it should not be neded
[10:10] <SunTsu> Gorilla_No_Baka: http://pastebin.com/VFbJ50Sc might be a better version
[10:11] <Gorilla_No_Baka> SunTsu:  checking it now
[10:11] <biopyte> Humbedooh, maybe a BIOS setting?
[10:11] <Humbedooh> spent yesterday sifting through 1k lines of code with valgrind, trying to find a memory bug...only to discover this morning, that it was a good old case of writing "==" instead of "=" :<
[10:11] <Humbedooh> biopyte, if you are running it on xterm, shouldn't it use your audio device for playing the beep though?
[10:12] <biopyte> i dont know
[10:12] <SunTsu> Gorilla_No_Baka: I turned your series of echos into a single here document which bypassed the shell, therefore making quoting easier
[10:12] <Humbedooh> or in other words, if you do ctrl+alt=f1, does it make a beep in the real terminal?
[10:12] <biopyte> echo -e '\a' .... no beep
[10:12] <SunTsu> Humbedooh: old case of "if you have a hammer everything starts looking like a nail"? :>
[10:13] <Humbedooh> exactly :<
[10:14] <Gorilla_No_Baka> SunTsu:  thanks man.. i am reading your versions now.. trying to understand them.. this is a lot better than what i came up with... :)
[10:14]  * Gorilla_No_Baka coffe break
[10:14] <biopyte> Humbedooh, good point ... it beeps like a charme on the real terminal Ctrl-alt-F1
[10:14] <proxx8187> i really hope someone can give me some support ,  i have an alfa card with a 8187 chipset, the point is that i cannot authenticate to any network, open or with encr. ive used wpa_supplicant, WICD, nm-applet. ive un/reloaded the modules, tried couple of usb ports, different antennas..different PC's, it all worked fine couple of days ago.im afraid the card is dead  man iam lost,  owyeah, and different drivers, the funny thing is i c
[10:14]  * Humbedooh throws in an 'e' for Gorilla_No_Baka's break
[10:14] <Stanley00> Gorilla_No_Baka: here is mine, just for the write task http://paste.ubuntu.com/778452/
[10:15] <biopyte> Humbedooh, so .. this tells me ... what?
[10:15] <Humbedooh> proxx8187, does dmesg tell you if it's working?
[10:15] <SunTsu> Gorilla_No_Baka: I did overlook one redirection, though, the ">> /etc/X11/xorg.conf" after Section... needs to be gone
[10:15] <biopyte> echo -e 'a' on tty1 ... beeps
[10:15] <Gorilla_No_Baka> Stanley00:  i am copying youras as well to read them over the coffe
[10:16] <biopyte> '\a'
 ill check
[10:16] <biopyte> but no beep using xterm
[10:16] <Humbedooh> biopyte, did you check the mixer control on the desktop? maybe xterm isn't set to use any sound card
[10:17] <biopyte> Humbedooh, where do i find this setting ... is it in the preferences?
[10:17] <wunnle> hey all.
 its scanning , and finds the AP, tries to authenticate
[10:17] <proxx8187> then times out
[10:17] <wunnle> is there a way to make menu bar transparent only on desktop?
[10:18] <Humbedooh> biopyte, I'm using xfce myself, so I wouldn't know exactly where on regular ubuntu :<
[10:18] <Humbedooh> proxx8187, have you tried rebooting the end point? :>
[10:18] <biopyte> ok
[10:18] <biopyte> gnome here
 end point ?
[10:19] <mang0> Humbedooh: :(
[10:19] <Humbedooh> well you're connecting to something, yes?
[10:19] <Humbedooh> there, there, mang0...it's just on my server, I use real ubuntu at home!
[10:19] <Humbedooh> with bells and whistles and moomins
 lol yes , multiple AP's couple of open ones as well , my other cards do connect
[10:20] <mang0> Humbedooh: \o/
[10:20] <mang0> Lol
[10:21] <Humbedooh> have you tried using a different auth type, proxx8187?
[10:21] <Humbedooh> like PKE or whatever
 so far ive tried ccsm,tkip and open
[10:22] <AceKing> SunTsu, are you here?
[10:22] <SunTsu> AceKing: with a single eye, yes
[10:22] <Humbedooh> suntsu is killing people in another channel :<
 mostly use wpa_supplicant from the command line, gives me time out
[10:23] <SunTsu> only the kenny equivalent
[10:23] <AceKing> SunTsu, OK, do you remember the Internet connection problem that you were helping me with yesterday?
one 3 different machines(VM, ubuntu and backtr.  thats whats scares me.
[10:24] <AceKing> SunTsu, I found a page online with a solution that worked. http://www.rvdavid.net/how-to-get-gigabit-speeds-from-rtl81118168b-pci-express-gigabit-ethernet-controller-on-ubuntu-linux/
[10:25] <Humbedooh> proxx8187, maybe google "ubuntu wifi 8187 timeout"? :>
[10:25] <AceKing> SunTsu, I figured I'd pass that along to you in case you ever had anyone else with the same problem. Thank you for pointing me in the right direction
[10:25] <SunTsu> AceKing: good to know, looks like I was on the wrong track, then
[10:26] <proxx8187> humbedooh, thnx
[10:26] <vsync_> why is it hip to read the art of war
[10:26] <SunTsu> vsync_: is it?
[10:26] <Humbedooh> also, try getting the latest development version of the wifi driver and compile it yourself
[10:26] <vsync_> whenever you open up itunes it's there on top. But maybe it's just iDevice hipsters
[10:27] <Humbedooh> well the Art of War is a good book
[10:27] <Fudge> hi does anyone know i think its sysctl that can tell you the date of when your system was started
, yeah ill grab it from the site and compile , iam afraid that the adapter is a dead fish :S:S:S
[10:27] <vsync_> Humbedooh it's merely a compilation of obvious things
[10:27] <SunTsu> vsync_: well, this nick dates back to er year 2k, I read the book way earlier the first time, maybe back in '94 or such
[10:28] <is_null> hi all, any idea how can i figure why my mobile broadland connection fails ?
[10:28] <is_null> it starts the connection procedure, then aborts silently and it's as if nothing had happened
[10:28] <Humbedooh> it's only obvious once you've realized it
[10:29] <is_null> althought i'm using ubuntu 11.10 with ubuntu 11.10 certified device (413c:818d http://www.ubuntu.com/certification/catalog/make/usb%3A413C/index.html?start=50&batch=50)
[10:29] <vsync_> well, anyone could write stuff like "rather pillage conquered villages than send supplies from homefront"... d'oh?
[10:29] <proxx8187> offtopic......................
[10:29] <SunTsu> vsync_: btw. offtopic
[10:29] <Scott_S> !ot
[10:29] <vsync_> yeah soz
[10:30] <proxx8187> anyone need some support then.... bring it on :P
[10:30] <is_null> nothing is logged apparently
[10:30] <is_null> so i guess only the package maintainer is able to debug it, that's fantastic news
[10:30] <Humbedooh> Fudge, dumpe2fs /tmp ?
[10:32] <Fudge> i checked tail dmesg.0 and it said april 11
[10:33] <Fudge> Humbedooh  if thats about 170 dayss iguess it would be right
[10:33] <Humbedooh> or you could use uptime and then calculate it
[10:35] <osmosis> how do I fix the behavior of alt-tab  so that instead of the pop-up box, I get immediate cycling through the windows?
[10:36] <Humbedooh> osmosis, try ctrl tab?
[10:36] <Humbedooh> or alt gr tab
[10:37] <osmosis> Humbedooh, whats gr ?
 btw , i checked my card  from my xp box , and still nothing, its going back to the store :)
[10:41] <Humbedooh> osmosis, alt ground or some such
[10:41] <insectatorious> guys, 'buntu 10.04 - any way to set the Terminal Title to the last executed command?
[10:41] <Humbedooh> the button that says "Alt Gr"
[10:41] <Humbedooh> or if you have a windows button, that plus tab usually does fancy stuff
[10:45] <SunTsu> insectatorious: depends on your terminal and your shell, you better search for that
[10:46] <insectatorious> SunTsu: using gnome-terminal and bash
[10:48] <insectatorious> SunTsu: I'm guessing setting the profile of the terminal will be the simplest method?
[10:49] <Scott_S> Got an issue for you guys: Known to not be an ISP issue, no bandwidth issues on other devices, but this computer is experiencing ~500Kbps download speeds but 2.2Mbps upload speeds.
[10:50] <Scott_S> No downloads are running, there is no significant bandwidth being used, and the computer is connected via 100Mbps ethernet.
[10:51] <SunTsu> insectatorious: I don't know how to do that with gnome-terminal but good old aunt google might
[10:52] <nvz> you have an aunt named google?
[10:53] <SunTsu> nvz: it's everybody's aunt - and their cats', too
[10:53] <Jackneill> hi, can you help me?
[10:53] <insectatorious> SunTsu: The problem is, people on the WWW (accrd. to Google) simply want to set the title once and leave it at that. I need it to constantly reflect the last cmd
[10:53] <Stanley00> !ask | Jackneill
[10:54] <Jackneill> my ubuntu 11.10 automatically installed updates, after i restarted, but it wont start
[10:54] <SunTsu> insectatorious: then why did I get this as the first hit? http://serverfault.com/questions/69312/automatically-change-the-gnome-terminal-title-for-the-window
[10:54] <Jackneill> i got only the login screen, after i fill my password, enter, i got blank screen, after again the login screen
 did you check the md5sum before burning the image ?
[10:56] <Jackneill> proxx8187: i updated to 11.10 from 11.04, and the problem is with an update. After i installed the updates, i got the problem.
[10:56] <proxx8187> oke
[10:56] <SunTsu> insectatorious: actually _this_ shows how to do it automatically for every given shell: http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Xterm-Title-4.html
 and can you use other session except 4 default ?
[10:57] <dr_willis> tldp.org  is so handy ;) even if a lot of the stuff is very old skoop
[10:57] <dr_willis> skool
[10:58] <Jackneill> proxx8187: i have many sessions, xfce, and default, but all buggy, for all i got blank screen after login, after again the login screen
 sounds like x server is a bitch, did you check graphic drivers ?
[10:59] <Jackneill> not yet, i dont know how to, and it was good before the update.
[10:59] <dr_willis> Jackneill:  as a test you could stop the login manager, and try 'startx' from the console and look for errors. also you could try making a new user see if they work for the new user
[10:59] <Jackneill> not to update to 11.10, just an update for some programs with the update manager
[10:59] <Stanley00> Jackneill: look likes some misconfig from old version had make that,you can try recovery mode, backup your home, clear youe config, and reboot again, then copy some config back
[10:59] <insectatorious> SunTsu: Thanks...need to improve my Google-Fu it appears....
[10:59] <Jackneill> dr_willis: ok
[11:00] <Jackneill> stanley00: how to do? :/
[11:00] <proxx8187> drop back to cli
[11:00] <Stanley00> Jackneill: just follow dr_willis first :D
[11:00] <Jackneill> ok
[11:00] <Jackneill> drop back to cli how to?
[11:00] <dr_willis> if it works for a new user. that shows its a user config issue
[11:00] <proxx8187> crtl-alt f1
[11:01] <proxx8187> or 2 ,3 ,4 etc
[11:01] <SunTsu> insectatorious: all I did was searching for "gnome-terminal set changing xterm title" - not too far-fetched, right?
[11:01] <Jackneill> thanks, i reboot now and i do it.
[11:01] <dr_willis>   sudo service lightdm stop        to close out x also
[11:01] <Jackneill> ok
[11:01] <dr_willis> you can irc from the console. ;0  irssi, or weechat
[11:02] <Jackneill> ok, thanks :)
[11:02] <Jackneill> can i switch on the cli ? more cli?
[11:02] <Jackneill> so f1, f2..and start irssi on f2
[11:02] <dr_willis> huh?
[11:02] <Stanley00> Jackneill: yes, you can
[11:02] <dr_willis> yes. you have 6 consoles
[11:02] <Jackneill> ok thx
[11:02] <dr_willis> or use screen
[11:05] <mischat> hi all, /me isn't an ubuntu user but someone who is is having problems using software I have written
[11:05] <mischat> what is the difference between zlibc and zlibg1
[11:05] <mischat> ?
[11:06] <iceroot> mischat: the difference is that zlibg1 is not in the repos
[11:06] <mischat> as in apt-get
[11:06] <mischat> ?
[11:07] <iceroot> mischat: apt-cache search
[11:07] <iceroot> !info zlibg1
[11:07] <mischat> sorry i am a centos/fedora user, and haven't played with ubuntu for a few years
[11:07] <iceroot> !info zlibc
[11:07] <mischat> i see
[11:07] <mischat> ah
[11:07] <mischat> zlib1g
[11:07] <mischat> sorry
[11:07] <mischat> !info zlib1g
[11:08] <mischat> that one
[11:08] <mischat> !info 4store
[11:08] <mischat> that is my software :) ^^
[11:08] <dr_willis> so.. the problem is?
[11:09] <mischat> !dep 4store
[11:09] <mischat> um
[11:09] <mischat> some ubuntu users it trying to install a newer version of 4store
[11:09] <mischat> from git
[11:09] <mischat> and is having problems with zlib
[11:09] <mischat> and they told me they are using zlib1g
[11:09] <mischat> am guessing that they should be using zlibc
[11:10] <dr_willis> he may need the -dev packages also
[11:10] <mischat> yeah
[11:10] <mischat> so would zlib1g-dev be the same as zlibc ?
[11:10] <mischat> !info zlibc-dev
[11:10] <mischat> so am guessing that zlibc has the header files
[11:10] <birdman_> I have a git hook that checks out the master branch to a www/ folder. How can I make sure all the files are of the www-data group?
[11:10] <dr_willis> mischat:  the 2 seem totally different from what the bot just said
[11:10] <mischat> yeah they do
[11:11] <mischat> thanks guys, i will ask the chappy to remove the zlib1g* stuff and to try with zlibc
[11:11] <dr_willis> so install both. install the dev packages for both.. ;)
[11:11] <mischat> ah yeah, good point
[11:11] <mischat> :)
[11:11] <mischat> is there a way to see what the apt dependencies for 4store in ubuntu are ?
[11:11] <mischat> on the web on using a bot in this room?
[11:12] <jackneill> hi from irssi
[11:12] <dr_willis> he could also use    sudo apt-get build-deps 4store          i think
[11:12] <jackneill> dr_willis: could not update iceauthority
[11:12] <dr_willis> or is it  sudo apt-get build-dep 4store          i think
[11:13] <dr_willis> jackneill:  seen others with that issue befor. never noticed a fix.
[11:13] <dr_willis> waset paying attention to them. ;)
[11:13] <jackneill> sorry:)
[11:13] <joancito> Hi all, sorry for the interruption. But in my office we have several computers with ubuntu 11.10 that since yesterday the wifi stopped to work and the compyter freeze. I need to disable the wireless interface to make the computer work again. Anyone is having the same issue?
[11:13] <jackneill> can i notice him then?
[11:13] <dr_willis> i ber the forums and askubuntu.com got  info on it
[11:14] <jackneill> ok
[11:14] <dr_willis> joancito:  identical computers? what wireless?
[11:14] <mischat> anyways thanks guys dr_willis and iceroot
[11:15]  * mischat will try and figure out what the problem is … 
[11:15] <dr_willis> mischat:  that build-dep option should pull in needed stuff
[11:15]  * mischat waves happy holidays and stuff to all the ubuntu folk!
[11:17] <joancito> All of them are HP Probook 5330m, the wireless interface is broadcom 4313.
[11:17] <ribot> hey, how can i make the shel program screen display window information in the bottom of the display?
[11:17] <mischat> yeah was more thinking if i could see them on the web
[11:17] <mischat> again thanks all /me will lurk here for a bit
[11:18] <dr_willis> ribot:  use byobu, or a fancy bash prompt.
[11:18] <jackneill> how can i install the nv module for xorg?
[11:18] <dr_willis> gotta run. bbl
[11:19] <almoxarife> jackneill: assuming 'nv' is nvidia, install nvidia-current
[11:20] <jackneill> ok
[11:20] <jackneill> but got: it's already the newest version
[11:21] <jackneill> but xorg fails to load cause nv is doesnt exist
[11:22] <almoxarife> jackneill: lost you, is nvidia-current installed?
[11:22] <jackneill> almoxarife: already.
[11:22] <mischat> as per http://packages.ubuntu.com/oneiric/4store <-- it seems to depend on the zlib1g and not zlibc
[11:22] <jackneill> but xorg fails to load, cause nv is doesnt exist
[11:22] <almoxarife> jackneill: and configured?
[11:22] <mischat> will have to find the dude which packaged up the ubuntu-ness
[11:23] <jackneill> almoxarife: it was already configured, i am using 11.10 and just update some things with update manager, and after restart the xorg fails to load: "could not update iceauthority file..." and from the console i got nv doesnt exist
[11:30] <insectatorious> SunTsu: you're right....
[11:32] <lotrpy> ikonia, i don't know , how to check if zabbix-mysql-server depends on fping or not. I already apt-get install zabbix-mysql-server before I apt-get install fping.
[11:32] <ikonia> lotrpy: let it remove it, then re-install zabbix-mysql-server see if it pulls it back in, easy / quick way to test
[11:36] <lotrpy> ikonia, thanks, and it remove it and ask if I want to remove the mysql table of zabbix, i choose no, and reinstall zabbix_server_mysql, it looks fine at the moment. but i thinks maybe it's too aggresive to remove zabbix_mysql_server, when one just remove fping(fping's function is only a tiny part of zabbix server, and it's optional)
[11:37] <xjiujiu> My ubuntu become very slow,recently.I just mount some NTFS part of another disk on the system start.
[11:39] <Guest67112> Hi all
[11:39] <Malamen> someone knos a x.400 mail client to download messages from a x.400 server ?
[11:40] <DOP__> Hi guys. Is there a way of installing ubuntu using sysv instead of upstart?
[11:42] <pzn> where can I find a deb file from older ubuntu karmic?
[11:42] <Gorilla_No_Baka> ubuntu packages  pzn
[11:42] <Gorilla_No_Baka> :)
[11:43] <pzn> Gorilla_No_Baka, didn't receive any message from bot
[11:43] <Gorilla_No_Baka> pzn:  http://packages.ubuntu.com/  here's your packages
[11:44] <aldin> hi, is it possible to set title bar close, min, max buttons always visible - not hoverable on ubuntu 11.10?
[11:44] <conntrack> You can tell it is Christmas
[11:45] <Gorilla_No_Baka> aldin:  yeah .. apt-get install gnome-shell and set the fallback
[11:45] <Gorilla_No_Baka> :)
[11:45] <DOP__> ununtu could be a more sensible alternative to debian... if only it could be possible to install it without upstart :(
[11:45] <DOP__> shame
[11:45] <Gorilla_No_Baka> them button will be always visible
[11:45] <Gorilla_No_Baka> :)
[11:46] <ManUb> hi guys, how to make file like ./run? I want this file to be running some.sh file
[11:46] <aldin> Gorilla_No_Baka: :) i liked unity on 11.04 which has always has it visible
[11:46] <Malamen> Please. someone know a x.400 mail client to download messages from a x.400 server?
[11:47] <aldin> ManUb: put it in /usr/bin foder and mak it executable
[11:47] <Gorilla_No_Baka> aldin:  well good luck with your unity... unless you run ubuntu on a tablet unity is useless.. a cheap knock off copy of  gnome 3
[11:47] <Gorilla_No_Baka> :)
[11:48] <ManUb> aldin : o ic. Thanks. I'll try it :D
[11:48] <aldin> Gorilla_No_Baka: cant make gnome3 menu always visible? it is annoying all the time move cursor left up corner
[11:48] <Gorilla_No_Baka> yes .. fallback mode
[11:49] <Gorilla_No_Baka> that's what i am running now
[11:49] <aldin> Gorilla_No_Baka: in fallback mode i dont have snap mode which i use very often
[11:49] <Gorilla_No_Baka> well, i personally can live without it..  unfortunately there are people that can not
[11:50] <aldin> Gorilla_No_Baka: yap :)
[11:50] <Gorilla_No_Baka>  if you ask me .. instead of completly change gnome 3 they should have spent some time to fix EACH AND EVERY  bug gnome 2 had.. y'know..?!
[11:51] <SunTsu> Gorilla_No_Baka: sometimes a rewrite is faster than fixing bugs
[11:51] <pzn> Gorilla_No_Baka, ubuntu karmic is not available on http://packages.ubuntu.com
[11:51] <Gorilla_No_Baka> that's true SunTsu ..
[11:51] <Gorilla_No_Baka> pzn:  stand by
[11:51] <Humbedooh> yay, managed to screw up networking service so I couldn't use my server :<
[11:52] <Gorilla_No_Baka> pzn:  http://packages.ubuntu.com/karmic/allpackages
[11:53] <Malamen> Please. someone know a x.400 mail client to download messages from a x.400 server?
[11:53] <Malamen> anyone?
[11:53] <Humbedooh> x.400 o.O
[11:53] <Humbedooh> old stuff :>
[11:53] <Malamen> I know its very old
[11:54] <Gorilla_No_Baka> SunTsu:  looks like the here document had a problem with the eof white space.. it took me a while to figure it out.. However it will still not write to /etc/x11  .. i will enable root login  and i will try to run it from root.. to see if it makes any change
[11:54] <Malamen> we have this here at work and i need to replace the window client for a linux client the x.400 messages
[11:55] <SunTsu> Gorilla_No_Baka: it should write to a temporary file and copy that over your existing file, replacing it
[11:55] <nitiab> i am having trouble connecting to freenode using all my irc clients, from kvirc or irssi to pidgin, seems like they are unable to resolve even the name, plus i am getting absolutely no output at all if i try to ping the irc servers. any ideas ? using the webchat now
[11:55] <itsmorefun> Entrez le texte ici...
[11:56] <dr_willis> nitiab:  try connecting via the ip of the server? if that works. that would point to a dns issue.
[11:56] <pzn> Gorilla_No_Baka, the page exists, however when I click over a link, it opens nothing :-(
[11:56] <Gorilla_No_Baka> i know.. i read your stuff trough... i looked some more on internet..  the script works.. however .. when it comes to writting to /etc/X11 it's a stubborn bastard
[11:56] <Gorilla_No_Baka> :)
[11:56] <Gorilla_No_Baka> pzn:  wow...
[11:57] <pzn> Gorilla_No_Baka, I'll try to download deb package from lucid instead of karmic... let's see if it works :-)
[11:57] <Gorilla_No_Baka> than you ARE  screwed
[11:57] <Gorilla_No_Baka> you will run  into dependecyes hell
[11:57] <Gorilla_No_Baka> :(
[11:58] <pzn> Gorilla_No_Baka, archive.debian.org keeps a copy of all debian released (it looks like a museum). why ubuntu doesn't do that?
[11:58] <freko28> hi all, can someone help me with gparted? I want to separate my /dev/sda1 partition (370Go) to add a second partition (10Go of DATA). Anyone can give my the parted cmd line for my problem?
[11:58] <Gorilla_No_Baka> well.. first of all because they want you to use the latest anf the greatest.. :)
[11:59] <Gorilla_No_Baka> second.. because they can't be bovvered
[11:59] <Gorilla_No_Baka> :)
[11:59] <Gorilla_No_Baka> third... and the list goes on and on. :)
[11:59] <SunTsu> pzn: prolly because people would expect to have support on those. And probably because you really don't want to spread stuff that has lots of potential security holes
[11:59] <Gorilla_No_Baka> forth.. SunTsu  got it right
[11:59] <conntrack> haha
[12:00] <dr_willis> I thought there was some 'archive' ubuntu server that had all the old releases
[12:00] <dr_willis> !eol
[12:00] <dr_willis> normally people need it when trying to upgrade EOL releases
[12:00] <Gorilla_No_Baka> but the question is.. : WHY WOUld they create packages with lots of potential security risks in the first place?
[12:01] <nitiab> thanks dr_willis , that did it , but now how do i get about fixing up this ? use a third party dns server like the google's?
[12:01] <dr_willis> nitiab:  i normally use googles dns, and opendns (one of each) :)
[12:01] <dr_willis> nitiab:  could be a temp issue with your isp's servers
[12:01] <SunTsu> Gorilla_No_Baka: uhm, because software has bugs, and stuff gets fixed in newer releases - which go into newer ubuntu releases and are not backported to eol ones
[12:02] <pzn> Gorilla_No_Baka, SunTsu: I "shrinked" a ubuntu karmic to fit into a 32Mb compact flash card, for using it in a i386 compatible hardware... now I want to add a new package and I'm screwed :-)
[12:02] <Gorilla_No_Baka> SunTsu:  that's a nice dipomatic answer..
[12:02] <Humbedooh> pzn: that's just...silly
[12:02] <SunTsu> Gorilla_No_Baka: it's the utter truth. People make mistakes, and code tends to be more buggy the more complex it gets
[12:02] <Gorilla_No_Baka> pzn.. consider upgrading.. ... it is well worth it..
[12:02] <ssspark> Hi guys! I just installed 11.10, it looks pretty great. Now I'm trying to redirect my sound output to a network pulseaudio-server. However, nothing is showing up.. what is the way to make ubuntu scan the network for sound devices?
[12:02] <nitiab> i don't know dr_willis its been this way for days, some irc servers are working just fine ... like icq, but irc.ubuntu.com and irc.freenode.net are blacklisted ? :O
[12:03] <Humbedooh> SunTsu, that should be in the revised edition of the Art of War...
[12:03] <freko28> plz I want to separate my /dev/sda1 partition (370Go) to add a partition (10Go of DATA). Anyone can give my the parted cmd line for my problem?
[12:03] <fj5> hello, everyone
[12:03] <fj5> xubuntu now
[12:03] <Humbedooh> freko28, you want to first shrink the original partition?
[12:04] <freko28> yes Humbedooh
[12:04] <Humbedooh> well then rtfm :) section 2.4.13 of the parted manual
[12:04] <Humbedooh> should tell you what to do
[12:04] <Gorilla_No_Baka> SunTsu: true.. so why can they let it be..  I mean.. i personally love icewm and open box.. but my first love is icewm.. I actually run my ubuntu on icewm and gnome3 fallback... you can not beat icewm.. you wanna modd something.. no probs.. it 's all there .. in plain .txt files /.xml files.. no need to go mental trying to figure out which is what
[12:05] <pzn> Gorilla_No_Baka, well... it is a hard work to "upgrade", since my shrinked ubuntu does not have space for dpkg, apt... just 32Mb of harddrive :-) I'll try to compile what I need from sources and put it there.
[12:05] <Gorilla_No_Baka> gnome 2 was nice
[12:05] <Gorilla_No_Baka>  they had to muck it up
[12:05] <dr_willis> gnome 2 had issues... but this is not really related to 'ubuntu support questions'
[12:05] <SunTsu> Gorilla_No_Baka: we're running in circles and getting more and more offtopic
[12:05] <Gorilla_No_Baka> SunTsu:  :))
[12:05] <Humbedooh> gnomes are cute
[12:06] <dr_willis> I will say that Lubuntu 11.10 has gotten very very good.
[12:06] <Humbedooh> it's gotten better at least ;)
[12:07]  * Gorilla_No_Baka agrees with Humbedooh 
[12:07] <evalentin> Hi there, I had a dual boot system with other OS in the first partition and a ubuntu 11.10 on the remaining of the disk. the ubuntu installation was done with lvm ontop of luks. now I want to get rid of the other OS from the beggining of the harddrive and make it part of the existing lvm. what is the safest way of doing it? I though of just going ahead and setupping the luks on the first partition, then creating the pv and adding the pv to th
[12:07] <freko28> Humbedooh, but I can't work on the 1 partition when it's mounting?
[12:07] <loljban> what is the command to find out the directory I am in on Ubuntu?
[12:08] <loljban> Like the path i mean
[12:08] <dr_willis> loljban:  'pwd'
[12:08] <dr_willis> print working directory
[12:08] <Humbedooh> freko28, did you try a rescue boot?
[12:08] <freko28> no
[12:08] <loljban> dr_willis, thanks
[12:08] <Humbedooh> otherwise you should probably try making a live CD and then do the resizing from that
[12:08] <krey_> hello, apt-get and aptitude install don't work anymore (11.10), when I try to install package it crashes, help please
[12:08]  * Humbedooh has new ink, shall be away
[12:08] <freko28> I've Installed Ubuntu on all my disk and now I wan't to add a second partition
[12:09] <Malamen>  X.400 messages. Anyone know a client ?
[12:09] <dr_willis> freko28:  if you used up all your disk.. you mean you want to resize the existing partions, shrink one. and create a new partiion?
[12:10] <freko28> yes but how can I do this? with a live cd?
[12:10] <dr_willis> freko28:  live cd and gparted. would be the easy way.
[12:10] <Humbedooh> burn a live cd and boot on it
[12:10] <dr_willis> freko28:  make backups of anything imporntant first in any case.
[12:11] <freko28> ok thx
[12:11] <gribouille> hi
[12:11] <dr_willis> there is a specific 'gparted live cd' you can get if you  just want a cd specifically for resizeing, and other tasks. it will be smaller and boot faster then a ubuntu live cd.
[12:11] <gribouille> is firefox 9 available for oneiric?
[12:11] <dr_willis> but you most likely allready have a ubuntu live cd laying about. :)
[12:11] <dr_willis> gribouille:  heard its comming.. not noticed it yet.
[12:12] <gribouille> ok
[12:12]  * dr_willis updates and upgrades and looks
[12:12] <krey_> also, I cleaned my cache just before it broke, might be related
[12:12] <dr_willis> dont see it today.. unless its allready there.
[12:12] <dr_willis> krey_:  cleaned how?
[12:13] <gribouille> dr_willis, whicj repository will provide firefox 9?
[12:13] <krey_> dr_willis: sudo apt-get clean
[12:13] <gribouille> dr_willis, which repository will provide firefox 9?
[12:13] <krey_> dr_willis: upgrade doesn't work either :S
[12:13] <dr_willis> !info firefox
[12:13] <krey_> dr_willis: all I get is "Reading package list... Done" then it returns
[12:13] <dr_willis> gribouille:  ive heard its to be in the standard repos.
[12:14] <SunTsu> I wonder why it's not in there yet, it's a security fix
[12:14] <gribouille> dr_willis, where did you hear this?
[12:14] <dr_willis> gribouille:  various ubuntu blog sites. webupd8 and omgubuntu most likely
[12:14] <dr_willis> those are about the only 2 i read.
[12:15] <Humbedooh> gribouille, you could always check out the aurora branch :)
[12:15] <iceroot> SunTsu: its not only a security-update, its also a major update so it needs some testing
[12:15] <dr_willis> http://www.webupd8.org/2011/12/firefox-9-released-with-improved.html
[12:15] <dr_willis> Firefox 9 will be available as a security update via the official repositories for Ubuntu 11.10 Oneiric Ocelot and 11.04 Natty Narwhal users,
[12:15] <SunTsu> iceroot: yeah, only that ff doesn't do minor upgrades anymore
[12:15] <fj5> is xfce or gnome 2 better
[12:15] <dr_willis> fj5:  depends on your needs.
[12:16] <SunTsu> fj5: with gnome2 gone...
[12:16] <gribouille> Humbedooh, no, thanks
[12:16] <dr_willis> fj5:  given that gnome2 is basically dead..
[12:16] <fj5> really
[12:16] <dr_willis> fj5:  lxde may also be worth looking at.
[12:16] <fj5> thanks
[12:16] <SunTsu> yup, quite for a while now
[12:16] <krey_> sudo aptitude does "Ouch! Got SIGSEGV, dying.."
[12:17] <fj5> I use my old IBM X32, seem a little slow.
[12:17] <iceroot> SunTsu: i know but that is not a reason to put major updates directly in the repos
[12:17] <CaT_MaN> is it possible when use NFS to define event on requested file that is not found
[12:17] <SunTsu> iceroot: I know, I mostly frown at ff for it's stupid versioning policy
[12:17] <krey_> dr_willis: solved, cache got corrupted (dunno how) manual removal fixed it
[12:17] <dr_willis> fj5:  lubuntu is about the lightest desktop  these days without giving up normally wanted functions.
[12:18] <gribouille> is the repository ppa:mozillateam/firefox-stable available for oneiric?
[12:18] <fj5> I don't know which one I should choose for my old IBM X32.
[12:18] <iceroot> fj5: lxde/lubuntu-desktop
[12:18] <dr_willis> gribouille:  add it and see? it should work i imagine
[12:19] <fj5> maybe xubuntu or lubuntu, or just the latest ubuntu.
[12:19] <fj5> lubuntu? thanks iceroot.
[12:19] <dr_willis> gribouille:  site says it should work...
[12:19] <gribouille> dr_willis, I did it, but //ppa.launchpad.net/mozillateam/firefox-stable/ubuntu/dists/oneiric doesn't exists
[12:19] <dr_willis> fj5:  whats the specs of the machine?
[12:19] <iceroot> fj5: lubuntu-desktop is the metapackage to install lxde (which is imo the only usable desktop for linux at the momemt)
[12:20] <txomon> hi, any screen recorder for ubuntu (11.10)
[12:20] <gribouille> dr_willis, http://www.webupd8.org/2011/12/firefox-9-released-with-improved.html says it exixts for lucid and mverick
[12:20] <dr_willis> txomon:  several in the repos.. recordmydesktop is a popular one.
[12:20] <dr_willis> Firefox 9 will be available as a security update via the official repositories for Ubuntu 11.10 Oneiric Ocelot and 11.04 Natty Narwhal users, but if you don't want to wait, you can already install it by using the Ubuntu Mozilla Security PPA:
[12:20] <txomon> dr_willis, not working well enough, gets blocked
[12:20] <fj5> dr_willis, CPU: 2.0GHz, 2G ram
[12:21] <fj5> no, 1G ram
[12:21] <dr_willis> fj5:  depending on your video card. that should handle ubuntu/unity decently. but lubuntu is more lighter, and old-skool :)
[12:22] <fj5> dr_willis, the video card is just 16M, so it's really old.
[12:22] <dr_willis> fj5:  egads...
[12:22] <dr_willis> ;)
[12:22] <dr_willis> time to learn the console!
[12:22] <fj5> haha
[12:22] <dr_willis> Lubuntu would what i would try.
[12:23] <dr_willis> what brand video card/chipset is it?
[12:23] <fj5> let me have a think
[12:23] <fj5> ATI M6
[12:23]  * dr_willis hopes its not a SiS
[12:23] <dr_willis> ;)
[12:24] <fj5> ATI Mobility Radeon M6 LY
[12:24] <dr_willis> give lubuntu a shot and see.. thats about all we can say.
[12:24] <fj5> OKAY
[12:24] <fj5> lubuntu, I'll try it.
[12:24] <txomon> dr_willis, any working screen recorder? I mean, under active development etc.
[12:25] <dr_willis> txomon:  ive only used recordmydesktop, and someone mentioned xvidcapture (i think) today
[12:26] <fj5> dr_willis, which one u use now, pl.
[12:27] <dr_willis> fj5:  neither..
[12:27] <dr_willis> I found a little hardware gizmo for $20 that recoreds video out straight to sd card. :)
[12:28] <Guest2947> Hi guys, I need to clone Ubuntu server 8.10, running SVN and Redmine, to be put offline for testing the backup integrity
[12:28] <Guest2947> Can anyone help?
[12:28] <eutheria> when i login using gnome session classic i end up with a broken session, i have to restart lightdm to get back to a working classic session and login again
[12:28] <iceroot> Guest2947: so you needa complete dump of the system?
[12:30] <dr_willis> Guest2947:  how are you going to be testing it?
[12:30] <Guest2947> iceroot: That's right, I will not need them to be online on the same network in the same time. But the gotcha here is that the new machine is different, hardware wise
[12:30] <Gorilla_No_Baka> SunTsu:  it's working .. but only from the root account!  I though you might wanna know
[12:31] <vip_> hi.can someone help me please?how to display at terminal or conky avialable packages or updates?
[12:31] <Guest2947> dr_willis: on a different network
[12:31] <dr_willis> vip_:  like the # avail? like a console login does?
[12:31] <Gorilla_No_Baka> i enabled root login and i ran the script from there and it's worked
[12:31] <vip_> yes please
[12:31] <dr_willis> Guest2947:  you could test it in a virtualbox setup.
[12:31] <iceroot> Guest2947: different hardware = different hdd-size?
[12:32] <Guest2947> iceroot: Yes, but bigger
[12:32] <dr_willis> vip_:  theres some command/service/script that puts that info in the motd. I looked into it once ages ago.  you ran the command it would print 'x# of packages to update' and so forth. but i cent recall the command or service name.,
[12:32] <iceroot> vip_: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade -s  to see available updates
[12:32] <dr_willis> vip_:  it was part of the MOTD package/scripts i recall
[12:34] <Guest2947> dr_willis: How do I clone it to VitualBox? Is there a p2v for VirtualBox?
[12:34] <tp43> who needs swap, it never gets used
[12:34] <dr_willis> vip_:  perhaps --> $ /usr/lib/update-notifier/update-motd-updates-available
[12:34] <dr_willis> Guest2947:  the vbox docs mention how to convert a real hd to a virtual hd. been ages sinve ive done it
[12:34] <iceroot> tp43: tell that to suspend-to-ram
[12:35] <tp43> iceroot, how much memory does suspend to ram take? How can you check, is there way to save your swap usage history?
[12:35] <Guest2947> dr_willis: will check, 10x a lot
[12:36] <keda87> what is the best editor for python for maverick?
[12:36] <iceroot> !best | keda87
[12:36] <dr_willis> keda87:  geany is a popular 'programers' text editor
[12:36] <vip_> I have that code in conky but this not working properly:${execi 1800 apt-get upgrade "~U" | wc -l | tail}
[12:36] <iceroot> keda87: and of course the answer is vim
[12:37] <Guest2947> dr_willis: but if they will insist on doing it with the new computer, without virtualization, what are the other choices?
[12:37] <dr_willis> Guest2947:  you can clone one hd to the other systems via creative use of dd, or other ways.
[12:37] <keda87> i want editor like netbeans any simply run and compile quicly
[12:38] <ubuntu> can anyone help me with repairing GRUB?
[12:38] <dr_willis> keda87:  try geany perhaps.
[12:38] <dr_willis> !ide
[12:38] <keda87> oke thanks for advice
[12:38] <dr_willis> !ide
[12:38] <tp43> ubuntu, I think you can use the debian install disk to re-install grub
[12:38] <dr_willis> !fixgrub
[12:38] <tp43> ubuntu, sorry the ubuntu install disk
[12:39] <arthurscience> I have ubuntu live on usb stick
[12:39] <arthurscience> that's what I'm running right now
[12:40] <dr_willis> theres some repair-grub tool you can install.
[12:40] <dr_willis> depends on how you broke it also. :)
[12:40] <arthurscience> I've tried installing the boot-repair gui and it fails to unpack
[12:40] <Guest2947> dr_willis: but will it work with the new hardware?
[12:40] <arthurscience> stops at about 35%
[12:41] <arthurscience> so I tried to reinstall grub manually through the terminal
[12:41] <dr_willis> Guest2947:  ive moved ubuntu installs  across a wide range of hardware, and have had very few issues.
[12:41] <dr_willis> Guest2947:  try it and see.. is the bottom line.
[12:42] <dr_willis> Guest2947:  had issues with for example moving  from pc 1 to pc2 both using nvidia video cards.. BUT the cards differning in what version of the drivers they needed.. thats about the biggest issue ive had.
[12:42] <dr_willis> Guest2947:  also the uuid's in /etc/fstab may need to be corrected.
[12:42] <chroot> hi, i installed goldendict , and how can i add a dictionary to goldendict?
[12:42] <arthurscience> I've tried following this ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1690964
[12:42] <chroot> i want to look up words offline.
[12:43] <Guest2947> dr_willis: thank you, will try.
[12:44] <arthurscience> also ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-24113.html and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[12:45] <arthurscience> all to no avail
[12:46] <dr_willis> any error messages or details you care to give?
[12:46] <dr_willis> about all ive ever needed to do was       sudo grub-install --root-directory=/media/InstalledSystemMointPoint /dev/sda --recheck
[12:49] <psychognite> /dev/sda is disk contains our OS..??
[12:49] <DeltaEpsilon> are there native gtk3 Banshee alternative for ubuntu?
[12:50] <DeltaEpsilon> Psychobudgie, /dev/sda is your first hdd and is not necessary containing your OS. Most of the time it does
[12:50] <arthurscience> dr_willis: sure, I just don't want to overload you and I'm not always sure how to filter what is relevant
[12:50] <Stanley00> DeltaEpsilon: did you try rhythmbox? it will be default in 12.04
[12:51] <arthurscience> dr_willis: I tried using sudo mount /dev/sda5 /mnt && sudo grub-install --root-directory=/mnt /dev/sda
[12:52] <arthurscience> hm
[12:52] <arthurscience> I may have gotten it to work
[12:53] <dr_willis> arunce:  your boot directory is tehn in  /mnt/boot correct?
[12:53] <arthurscience> I ran sudo grub-install --root-directory=/mnt /dev/sda
[12:54] <arthurscience> I may have accidentally said sda5 before and that's why it didn't work...also, instead of going straight to live environment this time I went to installation and canceled...not sure if that makes a diffence but the environment is a bit different
[12:55] <yusak> hy
[12:55] <Starcraftmazter> is there any guide yet on how to make 11.10 look like 11.04?
[12:55] <Starcraftmazter> while using gnome
[12:56] <deej1976> !notunity | Starcraftmazter
[12:58] <Starcraftmazter> cheers
[13:01] <dr_willis> Starcraftmazter:  some info on tweaking it at the webupd8 and omgubuntu sites also.
[13:07] <chroot> hi, how to add a dict to goldendict ,
[13:09] <Marezz> hey folks, whats the name of gui tool for switching keyboard layout?
[13:10] <ahmad> a
[13:10] <ahmad> a
[13:10] <ahmad> hai ada orang indonesia disini??
[13:11] <ultrixx> what?
[13:11] <mang0> Anyone here with experiance with ffscreencast? https://launchpad.net/ffscreencast I can't get it to work. Look at the most recent bug report for my problem....I submitted it.
[13:23] <cablop> i got an annoying problem
[13:23] <cablop> my keyboard in ubuntu has an INSANE annoying delay
[13:24] <TheHackOps> sup i can't roll back to an old kernal version
[13:24] <TheHackOps> sup i can't roll back to an old kernal version no matter what i do
[13:25] <sattu94> How can I import a Vcard, .vcf file into abook?
[13:26] <cablop> it seems today people is asking and no one answering xD
[13:27] <Tech-1> its the holidays, people are out and about
[13:27] <Malamen>  X.400 messages. Anyone knows a client. please ?
[13:27] <TheHackOps> It's getting so anoying i have a graphics problem and i need to roll back before the update but i can't get the grub menu to show no matter what i do
[13:29] <evalentin> anyone knows how to deploy a new encrypted disk / partition on existing lvm?
[13:31] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[13:31] <cablop> evalentin, willing to clone the / partition on the same or in a different lvm?
[13:31] <leo2007> Can someone paste me the contents of the pdb script?
[13:32] <leo2007> TIA
[13:32] <cablop> i need to replace that bad jokes that are gnome and unity
[13:32] <jason> hello?
[13:32] <cablop> can kde deal ok with lightdm?
[13:34] <Guest51833> any1?
[13:35] <evalentin> cablop: actually, I am stuck will simple thing. I have an existing lvm on top of luks. / runs on a lv from that lvm on the entire disk. works fine. now I have an extra disk. want it encrypted. this part is ok. have added even the pv to the vg. but now, I don't know to make the proper boot setup. I am afraid of resizing the root file system and getting a farty failure after 1st reboot.
[13:35] <cablop> evalentin: firt thing, don't do it on hot
[13:35] <cablop> hehe
[13:36] <cablop> i crashed my system that way
[13:36] <DeltaEpsilon> why is thunderbird the default email client instead of Evolution?
[13:36] <evalentin> :-)
[13:36] <cablop> afaik, you can resizze the filesystem, i used the visual lvm tools on ubuntu for that, but i suggest you to ise them from another linux or a live cd
[13:37] <P> hi
[13:38] <abstrus> Hi everyone !  I bought a USB wifi device from netgear (wna3100v1).  I managed to install the XP driver through ndiswrapper fine.  I now can see my router, etc.  My problem is when I try to connect to it, it hangs during "configuring interface" and fail with "awaiting for authorisation".  Any idea ?
[13:40] <evalentin> cablop: ok. but before the resize step, I believe I am failing at an early step: getting the new enc. disk setup properly during boot. Because I want it to participate on the lvm of where the / resides, I believe it must be setup in the initramfs. Using /etc/crypttab seams not the right way, because it asks for the passphrase way late, when the system is already running (a part from the bug of asking it and not waiting for me to type it, and 
[13:40] <evalentin> that I dunno how to do it
[13:40] <DeltaEpsilon> why is thunderbird the default email client instead of Evolution?
[13:41] <Tech-1> you can change it
[13:41] <evalentin> cablop: any hint?
[13:42] <Shalabayzer> Hi everybody
[13:42] <j111> Hi
[13:42] <Shalabayzer> Has anyone deployed irc server on Ub?
[13:43] <Shalabayzer> j111: Hi
[13:43] <evalentin> cablop: one easy way out would be to mount the new disk and make it available somewhere at /media/ but that breaks the whole idea of lvm :-)
[13:44] <yacc> What's the correct way to remove a kernel module from the initramfs?
[13:45] <Shalabayzer> yacc: Gentoo?
[13:46] <d8bhatta> When I leave ubuntu for 10  minutes, display goes off but computer seems running. Then if I move mouse or press keyboad, the display doesn't resume. Can somebody  suggest me what should I do to keep display even I am  not using computer for 1 hours or so. Note: I have set display option, I have set do nothng 'when display is closed' and ' suspend when inactive for '.
[13:47] <yacc> Shalabayzer, lol, issue being that I want to try a different ATA driver, ahci.ko seems to corrupt data from time to time, ...
[13:49] <Shalabayzer> yacc: I don't have a clue actually but you probably already browsed this http://wiki.debian.org/InitramfsDebug
[13:53] <ivanbajr> bom dia
[13:53] <ajen010> I'm trying to get postfix working but I get errors as at http://pastebin.com/rnk2dmeC. The postfix chat room said I should lookup apparmor and come here. I ran apparmor_status as root and got a bash: apparmor_status: command not found. I'm running 11.04.
[13:53] <yacc> Shalabayzer, well, I've got two solutions, although both are a little bit, well, how say, hardcore. Manually patching by unpacking, rm, repacking the initrd, and later on one can easily enough add a custom script to initramfs tools, but I'd guess there should be a way to manage that without that kind of surgery.
[13:54] <Shalabayzer> yacc: That's way too complicated...there has to be a simple solution ;)
[13:59] <Shalabayzer> yacc: Is this the procedure you want to do? http://www.gentoo-wiki.info/Initramfs
[14:01] <Diego> Oi
[14:02] <Diego> Alguém do BR aí !!
[14:02] <kvarley> Does anybody know of an application that would let me have window snapping when using OpenBox?
[14:05] <Guest23998> ciao
[14:07] <Shalabayzer> ALOHA
[14:07] <M1> is it safe to remove the "Update manager" from ubuntu?
[14:07] <TiMiDo> ALOHA Shalabayzer
[14:07] <iceroot> M1: why you want that?
[14:07] <Shalabayzer> TiMiDo: wazzup?
[14:08] <ubuntu-for-me> i want to ask a qustion that if there's any channel that could improve my english and funny?
[14:09] <M1> iceroot: I don't need it, it's sort of an embedded system that I update with aptitide over ssh anyway
[14:09] <TiMiDo> nothing much here programming on Python
[14:09] <TiMiDo> and your self Shalabayzer
[14:09] <TheHackOps> Anyone here that knows about rolling back to an old kernal version/update ??
[14:09] <ikonia> TheHackOps: the old kernel should still be on your system, just select it from the grub menu
[14:09] <ikonia> ubuntu-for-me: ##english
[14:10] <Shalabayzer> TiMiDo: wasting my time 'till it's 4 pm and time to go home for holidays :D
[14:10] <ubuntu-for-me> ikonia, thank you
[14:10] <TheHackOps> ikonia, I can't force the grub menu to show no matter what i do...
[14:10] <TheHackOps> ikonia, Tried alot of stuff
[14:10] <ikonia> TheHackOps: "force the grub menu"? ?
[14:11] <TheHackOps> ikonia, i have changed the /boot/grub/menu.lst to show grub menu at boot
[14:11] <TheHackOps> nothing at all
[14:11] <ikonia> TheHackOps: what version of ubuntu are you using
[14:11] <TheHackOps> ikonia, 10.10
[14:12] <ikonia> is ubuntu 10.10 grub1 or grub2....
[14:12] <TheHackOps> Uhh Grub2 i think
[14:12] <ikonia> TheHackOps: that's why menu.lst isn't working,
[14:12] <ikonia> TheHackOps: that's no longer a valid file in grub2
[14:12] <TheHackOps> ikonia, where is the file i change?
[14:12] <ikonia> TheHackOps: boot the machine, select the right kernel from the grub menu, that will boot what you want
[14:13] <TheHackOps> ikonia, Menu = NO SHOW
[14:13] <ikonia> TheHackOps: hold down escape
[14:13] <TheHackOps> ikonia, Can't will enter boot menu then when i continue with boot it just shows like E^
[14:13] <TheHackOps> if i hold it down
[14:13] <ikonia> TheHackOps: what?
[14:14] <TheHackOps> Ill try ur idea but i think i have many times
[14:14] <ikonia> TheHackOps: if you hold down escape it shows the grub menu
[14:14] <TheHackOps> brb
[14:14] <TheHackOps> let me try
[14:14] <jutnux> ikonia: Do you run Ubuntu or some other derivative?
[14:15] <IngoPaN> http://amzn.to/AmznCyberMonday  Amazon Gutschein 10 Eur : AMZNXMAS2011
[14:15] <jutnux> Or an entirely different OS?
[14:15] <ikonia> jutnux: what does it matter
[14:15] <ikonia> IngoPaN: please don't spam
[14:15] <IngoPaN> no spam. sorry
[14:15] <ikonia> TheHackOps: it's shift, not escape
[14:15] <ikonia> TheHackOps: sorry, shift key
[14:16] <jutnux> ikonia: Was just wondering.
[14:16] <tj2> does anybody have experience getting a touch screen to work under ubuntu 10.10?
[14:16] <ikonia> TheHackOps: sorry, it is the shift key, not the escape key you need
[14:16] <TheHackOps> Didn't work at all
[14:17] <TheHackOps> Cheers
[14:17] <TheHackOps> Be back again Hehehehehe
[14:17] <ikonia> TheHackOps: I told you the wrong key, my mistake
[14:17] <TheHackOps> ikonia, LUV U man its all good
[14:17] <ikonia> TheHackOps: great,
[14:17] <TheHackOps> :)
[14:17] <TheHackOps> brb
[14:18] <omid> i'm downloading ubuntu 10.04 cause ubuntu 11.10 sucked on my machine
[14:18] <Wolfsherz> omid: why did it suck?
[14:18] <ikonia> omid: why are you telling us this ?
[14:18] <ikonia> omid: it's up to you what you use, we don't care
[14:18] <omid> i had unusual bugs with it
[14:19] <omid> ikonia, i wanna tell the developers that unity has unusual problems on some hardware
[14:19] <ikonia> omid: log a bug on launchpad.net then
[14:19] <omid> i reported some bugs and posted on forums
[14:19] <ikonia> omid: ok, then they know
[14:19] <ikonia> omid: if you reported bugs on launchpad.net - they are informed
[14:19] <omid> i believe 10.04 is better for me
[14:19] <ikonia> omid: ok, use what you want, it doesn't matter to us
[14:20] <omid> i wanted to ask some questions . dont shot at me .
[14:20] <ikonia> omid: then ask them,
[14:20] <omid> first of all . as you know ubuntu 10.04 is 2 years old. does it means i have to download lots of updates ?
[14:20] <Tzunamii> haha
[14:20] <ikonia> omid: you will have updates available to you, you don't have to download them
[14:21] <TheHackOps> Yay Fixed my le problemo
[14:21] <TheHackOps> High five :_)
[14:21] <lenzi> where can i get the ppd file for HP-LaserJet-100-colorMFP-M175a model?
[14:21] <Pici> omid: And keep in mind that they will be security updates, you won't be seeing the same program versions that you did in 11.10
[14:21] <omid> another one is that can i install the newest software using ubuntu software center?for example i know that ubuntu 10.04 comes with openoffice.org . is the latest libreoffice version available in ubuntu software center for 10.04 ?
[14:22] <Pici> omid: no
[14:22] <Pici> !latest | omid
[14:22] <omid> so i'm forced to use old software ?
[14:22] <TheHackOps> The guy that was helping me Cheers man ur da bomb
[14:22] <ikonia> TheHackOps: no problem
[14:22] <Wolfsherz> omid: you are not forced to use anything at all.
[14:22] <Pici> omid: You're not forced to do anything. You are using an older release which has older packages.
[14:23] <lenzi> where can i get the ppd file for HP-LaserJet-100-colorMFP-M175a model?
[14:23] <TheHackOps> ikonia, Never updated without something breaking this time is was a screen lag problem so i think ill never update again
[14:23] <ikonia> ok
[14:24] <omid> i had lots of problems with 11.10 . some of them were really unusual. when i touched my laptop's full plastik palmrest my windows moved between virtual desktops for no appearant reason while the mouse and touchpad sensitivity was on its lowest .
[14:24] <TheHackOps> ikonia, Can i remove the newest version or at least set this kernal version to the default
[14:24] <Wolfsherz> lenzi: have you tried hp.com already?
[14:24] <Pici> omid: Unless you are asking a support question, we don't need a detailed rundown of what issues you had.
[14:26] <lenzi> Wolfshenz: Its not that easy
[14:26] <omid> sorry i didnt know that reporting problems here resaults the attack of ubuntu fan boys .
[14:26] <tj2> can anybody help me with my touchscreen problem? my touchscreen is being picked up as a mouse and its preventing my mouse from working correctly
[14:27] <lenzi> I am looking for it here: http://www.linuxfoundation.org/collaborate/workgroups/openprinting
[14:27] <Pici> omid: This channel is not a place to just report bugs. Thats what launchpad is for. As you can see this channel is very busy, thats why we ask that people keep stay on-topic.
[14:29] <TheHackOps> ikonia, Can i remove the newest version or at least set this kernal version to the default
[14:30] <omid> Pici, thankyou . i understand . i was saying that people can mention such things in a friendlier manner.
[14:34] <dp> is there a reason that the empathy package depends on libebook1.2-12, but that package is no longer available?
[14:35] <Pici> dp: That package should be available.  What release of Ubuntu are you using?
[14:36] <Dynamit> I have compile Xbmc and use Ubuntu 11.10 with unity but when i search for it i get no match, but before i did a clean install of my computer i did get a match when i had compile xbmc and yes i have run the  command sudo install make
[14:36] <Daxter> Im trying to set multiple monitors on ubuntu 11.10 but ti doesnt seem to see other monitor
[14:37] <Dynamit> have you push detect monitor
[14:38] <loljban> Daxter, I have the same problem with Ubuntu 10.10
[14:39] <Daxter> 10.10? even without unity crap you have that wow
[14:39] <Dynamit> have you try using your grafic cards screen controll?
[14:39] <dp> Pici: oneiric
[14:39] <Daxter> Dynamit tried that already... the nvidia settings about froze up the machine when i set it like i set it in 10.04
[14:39] <Dynamit> I have no problem whit setup multi screen whit nvidia
[14:40] <onizu> hi
[14:40] <MonkeyDust> low
[14:40] <deej1976> dp, try running sudo apt-get update first in a termina;
[14:40] <usr13>   Daxter: Desktop or laptop?
[14:40] <Dynamit> so that's wierd Daxter
[14:40] <deej1976> *terminal
[14:40] <Daxter> desktop
[14:40] <dp> deej1976: I did.
[14:40] <dp> but, I'll do it once more
[14:40] <Dynamit> i use laptop whit no problem
[14:41] <usr13> Daxter: What is the video card?
[14:41] <Dynamit> whit multi screen
[14:41] <Daxter> usr13: Geforce GT 240
[14:41] <dp> Reinstallation of libebook1.2-12 is not possible, it cannot be downloaded.
[14:41] <usr13> Daxter: And you get a total frozen system?
[14:42] <deej1976> dp: "apt-cache search libebook"  finds libebook1.2-12
[14:42] <Daxter> not totoally..for a few seconds it tired to turn 2nd monitor on..then gave it no singal...and unity (everything except mouse) disappeard from 1st monitor..then after a few seocnd i get settings successfull press ok or reverting in 3....2.....1
[14:43] <dp> deej1976: I understand that
[14:43] <usr13> Daxter: Is the fan working properly?
[14:43] <Daxter> yeah.. i have 10.04 on same machine..runs games on both monitors perfectly
[14:43] <dp> deej1976: but I cannot install it
[14:44] <Dynamit> have you try other screen driver's?
[14:44] <Daxter> Dynamit: the nvidia driver is the only one that prviodes 3D accelration.. which is a must for me
[14:44] <deej1976> dp: can you pastebin the complete errro
[14:44] <deej1976> *error
[14:44] <usr13> Daxter: Well, I dono then.... not sure what could be ding it.  DO you have your 11.10 system fully updated?
[14:44] <Dynamit> when i check i have 2 nvidia driver's
[14:45] <dp> deej1976: I pasted it here: Reinstallation of libebook1.2-12 is not possible, it cannot be downloaded.
[14:45] <Daxter> i tried the driver form nividoas site..boot into recovery mode->root prompt->telinit 3 at driver install request->login username (ubunut) ubuntu: commadn not found password (password) password: command not found->login incorrect->me rage
[14:46] <Daxter> 11.10 is updated
[14:46] <Daxter> not that i care too much just installed it to see how bad the unituy sht is..and i find that not only is unity shit, but the whole distro went shit too.. cane even login from recovery mode
[14:46] <omid> can someone explain me the diffrences in ubuntu LTS releases's point releases ? for example what's the diffrence between ubuntu 10.04.1 and ubuntu 10.04.3 ? what packages and things are updated ?
[14:47] <szal> !language | Daxter
[14:47] <ikonia> omid: updates pre-applied
[14:47] <Daxter> i know that you bot... just ubuntu is shit now...
[14:48] <Dynamit> I have no problem whit Unity
[14:48] <Dynamit> or Ubuntu and i run 11.10
[14:48] <Daxter> omid: 10.04.1 means 10.04 update #1
[14:49] <Daxter> they just re did iso to inculde updates a few moths after release
[14:49] <Daxter> right now 10.04 is t 10.04.3
[14:50] <omid> thankyou guys
[14:50] <Daxter> np
[14:51] <Daxter> is ikonia a bot?
[14:51] <ikonia> no
[14:51] <six7> is there a way to remove the 'blinking dots' loading screen for ubuntu 11.04 entirely?
[14:51] <dr_willis> Turing Test Passed. :)
[14:51] <theadmin> Daxter: The only bots around here are Floodbot1-3 and ubottu
[14:51] <six7> if I want a pure text-based boot [i.e. see everything that the computer is doing] ?
[14:51] <deej1976> dp: have you run a "sudo apt-get upgrade" ?
[14:52] <dr_willis> six7:  disable plymouth.  that can be done in /etc/default/grub by adding the 'nosplash' option i think
[14:52] <theadmin> six7: Append "noquiet nosplash" to your kernel line
[14:52] <dr_willis> six7:  for JUST text.. use the text option. that disables the login manager also
[14:52] <dr_willis> !text
[14:52] <dr_willis> six7:  you might want to disable the framebuffer also 'nofb' :)
[14:52] <Daxter> six7: the loading screen is not showing up right (aka plymouth).. sudo gedit /etc/conf.d/initramfs-tools/splash andd line FRAMEBUFFER=y
[14:52] <Daxter> iirc i think thtas what helped me
[14:53] <dp> deej1976: yes. that's actually what uninstalled empathy in the first place
[14:53] <dr_willis> I t3end to just disable plymouth. It just seems to cause more issues then its worth.
[14:53] <chasmo> Has anyone had success installing Word Perfect on Ubuntu 11.10?
[14:53] <dr_willis> word perfect.. now thats old skool. :)
[14:53] <Daxter> ^yes
[14:53] <dr_willis> it has a linux port?
[14:54] <deej1976> dp: What did you install to cause empathy to uninstall ? have you added an empathy PPA
[14:54] <chasmo> There's a debian package
[14:54] <six7> dr_willis: that !text link doesn't point to any section of that article
[14:55] <chasmo> I have a coworker who I do Linux support for who is trying to revive it.
[14:55] <dr_willis> six7:  not my fault.
[14:55] <six7> just pointing it out
[14:55] <six7> didn't know if you ran the bot or not
[14:55] <dr_willis> you apppend text tot eh end of the noquiet nosplash stuff.
[14:55] <dp> deej1976: I did an upgrade. AFAIK, I have no empathy PPAs
[14:56] <dr_willis> chasmo:  so its now open sourced?
[14:56] <chasmo> He's tried using ldd, LD_LIBRARY_PATH, LD_DEBUG, etc but no joy
[14:56] <six7> dr_willis: and that disables the login manager?  does that matter with what is essentially a LiveCD?
[14:56] <chasmo> dr_willis: good question, I don't know
[14:56] <dr_willis> six7:  not sure what it would do on a live cd.
[14:56] <dr_willis> chasmo:  if its just an old binary .deb package. its very likjely the libs it needs are not  the right versions any more.
[14:57] <chasmo> It's the last week of school, haven't had time to peek at his output or delve deeply myself
[14:57] <six7> dr_willis: we have a net install of Ubuntu for testing purpose in my shop; about 10% of computers fail to boot at all, they just get stuck on the 'blinking dots' screen, so I was wnting to see where they're actually failing
[14:57] <dr_willis> six7:  try the nomodeset option,  space when you see the little keybord=man icons, under F5 or F6 i think
[14:57] <dr_willis> !nomodeset
[14:58] <Daxter> six7: did you update the bios on the computers? i klnow my old machine kept failing with hdds till i upgraded bios
[14:58] <deej1976> dp: Sorry, if you've not got any extra ppa's enabled, and it was removed with an upgrade, it's past my experiences
[14:58] <dr_willis> You could set nomodeset as the default also i guess.
[14:58] <chasmo> dr_willis, thanks
[14:58] <six7> Daxter: yeh, BIOSes are all up to date; it seems to me more of a latency thing, but not 100%
[14:58] <dr_willis> actually if you hit esc on the blinking dots. (plymouth)  i though you could see the messages.
[14:58] <dr_willis> i may be wrong. :)
[14:59] <six7> it'd be nice to streamline it for my coworkers
[14:59] <six7> they like the tools that Ubuntu gives, but most don't know how to use it outside of specific applications
[15:00] <travisHAZE> Off topic, but off-topic is always dead, and I'm making a presumption that math majors are present: If someone got a B in College Algebra (doesn't really remember logs), could they handle pre-calc w/ trig?
[15:00] <chasmo> six7: does any given box that fails _always_ fail, or is it intermittant?
[15:00] <pangolin> !ot
[15:01]  * chasmo suspects there are math-related IRC channels
[15:02]  * travisHAZE suspects they're dead like almost every other IRC server ever listed in history of interwebz
[15:02] <Malamen>  X.400 messages. Anyone knows a client. please ?
[15:03] <spyvsspy> anyone have any idea, why I cant view a SWF file, when I call chromium from a shell script
[15:03] <spyvsspy> but if I run it normally its fine?
[15:03] <six7> chasmo: it's intermittent, which is one of the reasons I think it's a latency thing
[15:04] <spyvsspy> nm
[15:04] <spyvsspy> profiles
[15:05] <chasmo> six7, you may be able to dig up info if you search for 'chain loader', the first and second stages of which are actually printing the dots. IIRC, there's a missing dot (a space) that indicates when the first stage hands off control to the 2nd.
[15:06] <chasmo> BBL, chow
[15:07] <BluesKaj> BBL, errands ...
[15:07] <ghen> pantek
[15:08] <ghen> mana orang nieh.............
[15:08] <ghen> pada kemana sich....
[15:11] <six7> on booting some of these machines, there's a large delay between initializing the ethernet connection and registering the UDP and TCP transport modules, does that mean anything to you guys?
[15:12] <six7> delay being about 60 seconds or so
[15:13] <progre55> hi guys. I'm using "select into outfile", and when the outfile is pointed to /tmp/file, it works fine, and the file is owned by mysql:mysql but when I create a separate directory on a different location and chown to mysql:mysql, it says "Can't create/write to file"
[15:13] <progre55> I was told it was apparmor
[15:13] <progre55> how do you disable it, or what's the preferred way of doing this?
[15:13] <insectatorious> I  have two files in different paths, one is a symlink of the other. Both have the same name. How do I know which is the symlink and which is the main file?
[15:13] <progre55> using ubuntu
[15:13] <x3k4p> hi i have a problem in my source liste in ubuntu 11.10
[15:14] <Gentoo64> progre55, you can disable the profiles
[15:14] <Gentoo64> !apparmor
[15:14] <Gentoo64> i cant remembet the way to use it
[15:14] <six7> insectatorious: you can use ls -l to show what type of file each one is
[15:14] <progre55> Gentoo64: thanks, let me read the manual =)
[15:15] <Gentoo64> progre55, i think by default only a few thigns are enabled
[15:15] <six7> insectatorious: the link will show like lrwxrwxrwx or so, depending on your permissions, the regular file will show as -rwxrwxrwx
[15:15] <x3k4p> hi i have a problem in my source liste in ubuntu 11.10 i want liste clean
[15:16] <theadmin> x3k4p: Speak English please... Or go to the corresponding support channel for your native language. What you just said made almost no sense, especially what came after "11.10"
[15:17] <x3k4p> i want my source liste to be as default
[15:18] <erespond> hai guyy, am need fine .db file on my system and del it, how i can do it on terminal
[15:18] <llutz> erespond: find path/ -iname filename.db -delete
[15:18] <erespond> any body know that step..
[15:19] <erespond> llutz, am need delet all .db file on mysystem
[15:19] <januari> iy
[15:19] <theadmin> x3k4p: This is the default sources.list if I recall right: http://pzt.me/7m18
[15:20] <llutz> erespond: find path/ -type f -iname "*.db" -delete         but be careful, it won't ask. better to make a list of these and check before deleteing
[15:20] <sipke> #Exiled-Destiny
[15:20] <erespond> llutz, but if am need recovery back can i get the step
[15:21] <theadmin> sipke: You don't need to spam the channel. If you want to join a channel instead of posting the name, use /join #test (replace "test" with channel's name)
[15:22] <erespond> llutz, you step work well thanks
[15:23] <x3k4p> i have yhis problem ::Failed to download repository information
[15:24] <theadmin> [19:19:44] <theadmin> x3k4p: This is the default sources.list if I recall right: http://pzt.me/7m18
[15:24] <theadmin> x3k4p: Also, sudo rm /etc/apt/sources.list.d/*
[15:27] <ashish> bhjbj
[15:28] <x3k4p> worked
[15:32] <funkss> :)/
[15:32] <funkss> ada orang indon ngga ya?
[15:32] <funkss> :|
[15:32] <insectatorious> six7: thanks
[15:33] <genii-around> !id | funkss
[15:33] <funkss> thanks mr :D
[15:34] <funkss> kok sepi :|
[15:39] <tyler_d> when I ssh somewhere my titles don't update?
[15:43] <andy_wfc> anyone know much about vino-server? it's running and i can connect to port 5900, but it doesn't actually respond sensibly (i.e., state an RFB version). i have ssh access but no physical access. i've rebooted the machine a couple times and that doesn't help. vino's enabled via gnome
[15:46] <mang0> If I run sudo apt-get update, it won't update me to 11.10 will it?
[15:47] <auronandace> mang0: no
[15:48] <auronandace> mang0: update refreshes the package repositories, apt-get upgrade gets you the latest updates for your version
[15:48] <mang0> auronandace: Thanks :)
[15:48] <harovali> hi there, I need a tool like ps2txt but reversed, txt2ps , so that I can print with some text customizations, like putting a bold type font to the text. Is there some obvious (or not-so-obvious) tool available to use ?
[15:50] <neb> hey
[15:50] <usc911> hey guys, just set up a new server for a friend and now trying to map 4 windows xp machines to it. Problem im having is that the machines wont connect, they ask for a username and password. I have my samba conf set not to use passowrds though. any thoughts
[15:51] <Zizzu> dont you have fear of hackers if you use servers??
[15:51] <travisHAZE> ofc
[15:52] <Zizzu> i have an hardware rootkit and some hackers can enter my ubuntu after i install it and with 2 firewalls
[15:52] <AdvoWork> hi there, am i able to create a user from the CLI but make sure they can only access a certain directory(s) ?
[15:52] <Guest28723> ola
[15:53] <usr13> harovali: "The gs tool is a Ghostscript interpreter that is used to convert files from PostScript to other formats"
[15:53] <llutz> AdvoWork: chroot your users, bind-mount dirs they need to access into chroot
[15:54] <usr13> harovali:  ps2ascii
[15:54] <Zizzu> anyone know what this hardware rootkit is and how to remove it??
[15:55] <jita> How can i remove first 4 spaces from every line of a file ?
[15:55] <usr13> Zizzu: How did you  get this rootkit?
[15:56] <harovali> usr13: yes I know that tool, but I need to convert *to* ps (from raw text), is there something to do that ?
[15:57] <llutz> jita: ugly - "sed -i  's/^    //' file"
[15:57] <six7> jita: easy with a hackish method: cat file.txt | while read LINE; do echo "$( echo "$LINE" | sed 's/\ //' | sed 's/\ //' | sed 's/\ //' | sed 's/\ //' )" >> file2.txt; done
[15:57] <six7> hmm, I assumed that the first four spaces were not necessarily together
[15:57] <Zizzu> usr13 i have been hacked long time ago when i was totally noob on an irc server and i keep getting this thing from hardware :(
[15:57] <llutz> jita: sed -r 's/^ {4}//' test.dat
[15:58] <usr13> Zizzu: What hardware are you getting it from?
[15:59] <usr13> Zizzu: There is  rkhunter - rootkit, backdoor, sniffer and exploit scanner
[15:59] <gplikespie> Hello, I am new to Linux and am not sure how to move files from windows to linux, can anyone help?
[15:59] <Zizzu> i dont know i only know i have couse they can enter my ubuntu like if i have a trojan, after i install it from cd and with all updates and ufw firewall default settings
[16:00] <Zizzu> its hacker thing and i am not :(
[16:01] <Zizzu> it is something in the hardware couse i can get hacked by this people (from italy) with every os i install
[16:02] <donavan01> ok is the new launcher that ubuntu uses really helpful or just a giant pain in the rear ... I just started using ubuntu for the first time in about 2 years and it took me about 20 mins to find the freaking terminal
[16:02] <Zizzu> anyone know what i should search for remove a thing like this from computer?
[16:02] <Metroshica> gplikespie, there is a variety of methods, depending on the file size and how much you want to learn. You can use some basic tools like gmail to Dropbox to send files. If it's a VM you can use shared directories. You can also set up a samba share. If you have ssh access, I recommend winscp, definitely one of the easiest tools to use
[16:02] <gplikespie> VM is virtual machine, right?
[16:02] <Metroshica> gplikespie, exactly
[16:03] <Stepnjump> Do any of you know of a tool that would create a shortcut with a URL in Opera or other?
[16:03] <six7> donavan01: ctrl-alt-F[1-6] if you're desperate
[16:05] <donavan01> six7 oh I found it but is seems like ubuntu is trying to cater to the OSX crowd too much everything has become so mickey mouse that makes it hard to find things
[16:05] <theadmin> Stepnjump: Um, "opera http://example.org"
[16:05] <usr13> harovali:  enscript - converts text to Postscript, HTML or RTF with syntax highlighting
[16:05] <six7> donavan01: which version are you using?
[16:05] <Metroshica> donavan01, honestly, I hate it, if you prefer not to use it, just select use Ubuntu Classic at the bottom of the login screen when you login. That will take you to the older ubuntu desktop you're used to, a much more intuitive interface imo
[16:05] <Metroshica> donavan01, agreed
[16:05] <llutz> six7:then easier, less hackish :)       sed -i  -e 's/ //' -e 's/ //' -e 's/ //' -e 's/ //'  file
[16:05] <donavan01> the latest build 11.10 I think
[16:05] <harovali> usr13 thanks !!!!
[16:05] <Stepnjump> what do you mean theadmin
[16:05] <theadmin> Stepnjump: That as a command.
[16:05] <gplikespie> Ah thanks, thats helped
[16:06] <Stepnjump> really, at the terminal theadmin?
[16:06] <deej1976> Zizzu: try install  chkrootkit rkhunter unhide
[16:06] <donavan01> mertoshica thanks ... I think this interface would be good for tablets but for a desktop I think its a gaint pain
[16:06] <theadmin> Stepnjump: No, for your shortcut -_-
[16:06] <AdvoWork> if root makes a directory, can i give testuser access to make/modify files within that dir?
[16:06] <theadmin> AdvoWork: Sure.
[16:06] <Metroshica> donavan01, I agree with you completely, I think Ubuntu made a huge mistake in offering that desktop for all versions
[16:06] <Stepnjump> theadmin, so I would type that in the URL bar?
[16:07] <usr13> Stepnjump: He's giving you an example.  You substitute example.org with the site of your choice.
[16:07] <Stepnjump> ok thanks, I'll check the man pages
[16:07] <AdvoWork> theadmin, what would the command have to be?
[16:07] <theadmin> usr13: s/he/she/, be careful when assuming :P
[16:07] <theadmin> AdvoWork: chmod/chown the directory properly
[16:07] <gplikespie> Now, If I could just get a command to make coffee... /mocha?
[16:07] <usr13> theadmin: Ok. sorry  :0
[16:07] <six7> llutz: what's -i switch do? I forget
[16:07] <AdvoWork> theadmin, but if the owner is root, i wouldnt have to chown it would i?
[16:08] <donavan01> I dont think it would be bad if they gave you a choice but its kinda forced
[16:08] <theadmin> AdvoWork: You can just add the person who needs access to the group which owns it or something like that.
[16:08] <llutz> six7: in-file
[16:08] <six7> llutz: does that remove the need for escaping spaces?
[16:09] <donavan01> mertoshica ... yeah I dont have the option to log into the regular gnome
[16:09] <llutz> six7: -i has nothing to do with that
[16:09] <six7> llutz: then don't you need to escape them?
[16:09] <llutz> six7: no
[16:09] <six7> or double-quote each parameter
[16:09] <six7> i.e. 's/\ //' or "s/ //"
[16:10] <llutz> six7: makes no difference (afaik)
[16:11] <theadmin> !find fish
[16:11] <theadmin> Wow, that's a lot of stuff
[16:11] <Metroshica> donavan01, You should, once you select your name from the existing users, at the very bottom of the screen a couple menus will show up. There will be a couple different options, such as selecting your keyboard layout and whatnot. In the middle or right side, it should have one that lets you choose which desktop. If you select Ubuntu Classic, that should get rid of the launcher bar.
[16:12] <AdvoWork> theadmin, i did: groupadd devteam THEN: usermod -a -G devteam testuser THEN chgrp devteam /var/www/testfolder/  which seemed to work, but ftpd in as that user, tried to make a folder within there and it said permission denied
[16:12] <theadmin> AdvoWork: Did you look at setfacl and getfacl? Those are often helpful if you have a filesystem with ACL support (e.g. ext2/3/4)
[16:13] <donavan01> metroshica ... nope  no dice  let me see if I can get you a screen shot
[16:14] <Metroshica> donavan01, I apologize, apparently Ubuntu 11.10 doesn't come with the classic desktop like 11.04 does, I had assumed it did. However, you do have the ability to install it, and it seems pretty easy. Try this link here, it gives a pretty good tutorial on how to do it. http://tombuntu.com/index.php/2011/09/11/install-the-classic-desktop-in-ubuntu-11-10/
[16:14] <AdvoWork> theadmin, is there no way of doing that without?
[16:15] <donavan01> Thanks
[16:15] <theadmin> AdvoWork: There might be... Not so sure right now
[16:15] <six7> donavan01: best bet is to run away from Unity and Gnome3 as fast as you can ;)
[16:15] <Metroshica> six7, donavan01 exactly
[16:16] <donavan01> so whats the best desktop to go with then ... like I said been out of the loop for a bit
[16:16] <six7> donavan01: depends on your preferences
[16:16] <Metroshica> classic ubuntu desktop, which can be installed by typing in apt-get install gnome-panel
[16:16] <six7> Gnome2 is nice, if a bit simpler and/or less fancy
[16:16] <Metroshica> donavan01, but that's if you want a more basic desktop
[16:16] <six7> xfcs is slick, and minimal
[16:17] <Metroshica> donavan01, it's not the end all, I've tried out KDE and like it a lot, it's up to  you, but if you used to use Ubuntu and liked how it used to be, get the classic ubuntu desktop
[16:17] <donavan01> yeah its just running in a virtual machine and I need it to do some kernel builds im trying to learn about for my android phone so gnome 2 will do just fine I would think
[16:19] <Metroshica> donavan01, if you're running it in a VM, you might want to install 10.04. It a LTS version so it's more stable,I've had issues running 11.10 in a VM since it's newer and not officially supported yet. In fact, I actually switched my VM to 10.04 last night.
[16:19] <AdvoWork> is there any reason if ive done chown root:devteam /myfolder   where testuser is part of devteam, yet they still cant create folders within that dir?
[16:19] <Metroshica> donavan01, also, 10.04 doesn't come with this Unity desktop crap, so you don't have to deal with this
[16:19] <Metroshica> AdvoWork, are the permissions for myfolder 775?
[16:20] <Metroshica> AdvoWork, if it's the default 755, they still won't have write privileges even if they're in the group
[16:20] <donavan01> well I already have 11.10 on this machine running and being that im just trying things right now im not worried about it ... but when I start getting serious I will probably go with the 10.04 because I will be running it on dedicated hardware that I know works with 10.04 flawlessly
[16:21] <AdvoWork> Metroshica, as a test i did 777 and same problem?
[16:21] <Metroshica> if 777 didn't work, then there is an issue, as 777 gives permission to everyone
[16:22] <AdvoWork> any idea what the issue could be? or what I can do to debug?
[16:22] <AdvoWork> root created the myfolder
[16:22] <Metroshica> can the root user make changes?
[16:23] <dr_willis> what filesystem is this folder on?
[16:24] <AdvoWork> Metroshica, yeah the user can
[16:24] <donavan01> so whats the real difference between gnome 2 and 3 ?
[16:24] <AdvoWork> dr_willis, how can i find that?
[16:24] <Metroshica> donavan01, there's a lot of underlying differences that aren't obvious, if you just google gnome3 changelog you can read them all
[16:25] <Metroshica> AdvoWork, if you do a ls -l on the folder, what does it say?
[16:26] <cipherboy> What is the question?
[16:26] <donavan01> Metroshica I was more wondering about basic looks and function ... the backend stuff really is above my pay grade when it comes to linux ... im working on getting better at it but not there yet
[16:27] <cipherboy> Basic bash tutorials? Sorry, just got online.
[16:28] <Metroshica> donavan01, ah ok, from what I've seen is that it adds that stupid launcher to the side of the screen. Also, it makes it completely unintuitive to change the top panel
[16:29] <prashant171992> hi
[16:29] <six7> cipherboy: try here: http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Bash-Prog-Intro-HOWTO.html
[16:29] <cipherboy> Hello.
[16:29] <prashant171992> hi cipher
[16:29] <donavan01> metroshica ... so basically pretty crap that I dont need
[16:29] <cipherboy> six7, I know how to use bash,I was wondering what the current issue was, I just got online.
[16:29] <AlbertP> Hi all
[16:30] <AlbertP> thunderbird converts tabs to 4 spaces. Anyone here who knows a workaround?
[16:30] <six7> cipherboy: my mistake, I thought you were asking
[16:30] <Metroshica> donavan01, nailed it
[16:30] <SirSpam> I just installed Ubuntu 11.10 using the i386 netboot installer and now my computer is stuck at a blinking cursor screen. I can connect to it using SSH, but the computer won't load
[16:30] <cipherboy> six7: no problem.
[16:30] <six7> I was trying to be helpful, and apparently failing :(
[16:30] <cipherboy> AlbertP: is it under preferences?
[16:30] <AlbertP> no it isn't
[16:30] <prashant171992> hey does anyone knows about screen flicker
[16:30] <prashant171992> n ubuntu 11.10
[16:30] <AlbertP> I asked in #thunderbird, and thunderbird should not do this by default
[16:30] <erespond> am used ubuntu 11.04, but so hard and so slowly on my pc can i make that fast or batter
[16:31] <erespond> need step with terminal
[16:31] <cipherboy> AlbertP, sorry, away from my computer at the moment.
[16:31] <donavan01> Thanks for the help I am back to classic gnome... much better
[16:31] <Humbedooh> AlbertP, Thunderbird does a lot of bad things :p
[16:31] <Humbedooh> non-compliant piece of s... :>
[16:31] <AlbertP> in #thunderbird someone could tell me that it didn't happen on his thunderbird 8.0 on freebsd
[16:31] <AlbertP> but on linux it does
[16:31] <AlbertP> with both natty's 3.1.15 and oneiric's 8.0
[16:32] <cipherboy> Sorry, net glitch
[16:33] <cipherboy> Miss anything?
[16:33] <AlbertP> cipherboy: in #thunderbird someone said, the tabs to 4 spaces conversion does not happen at him on freebsd
[16:33] <AlbertP> but at me on linux it does
[16:34] <cipherboy> Does it happen as you type or when you send the email?
[16:34] <AlbertP> Immediately as I type
[16:34] <urthmover> elinks, irssi, mutt, iftop, htop amazing
[16:35] <vArmon> Hello.
[16:35] <cipherboy> Can you keep it? I remember seeing that option somewhere, either in the thunderbird config or the
[16:35] <Boreeas> Is it common for shared objects to be placed in / ß
[16:36] <cipherboy> Email config. Sorry mods, am on ipad, enter is easy to hit. :P
[16:36] <vArmon> I'm trying to see which runlevel I'm in, and then possibly trying to change it, but for some bloody reason, /etc/inittab doesn't even exist. I'm told it has been replaced with "systemd", but I find no information on how to a) see the current runlevel, b) edit the default runlevel.
[16:36] <shaneo> anyone here a psybnc user
[16:36] <cipherboy> Boreeas meaning what? More specifically, what types of files.
[16:36] <Pici> !runlevels | vArmon
[16:37] <cipherboy> shaneo can't say Ido,
[16:37] <vArmon> ubottu: Okay, thanks... so, basically, there is no distinction between runlevels 2/3 and 5 anymore?
[16:37] <vArmon> Oh. ;) hehehehe.
[16:37] <Boreeas> cipherboy: Adobe flash player wants me to extract the .so files in /
[16:38] <Pici> vArmon: exactly.
[16:38] <vArmon> This doesn't answer the question, though. How do I change the runlevel? I want the default runlevel to be 1.
[16:38] <SirSpam> Ubuntu 11.10 runs on an Intel Atom CPU right?
[16:38] <Boreeas> I was curious, since there are mostly folders and only two or the files
[16:38] <vArmon> Pici: Thanks.
[16:38] <Pici> vArmon: The default iirc is 2.
[16:38] <vArmon> Pici: Right, but how do I change it to 1}
[16:38] <vArmon> ?
[16:39] <Pici> vArmon: 'sudo init 1'
[16:39] <AlbertP> cipherboy: the option does not exist in TB's config. Perhaps it did in the past but 8.0 does not have it.
[16:39] <vArmon> Pici: I mean the default runlevel.
[16:39] <cipherboy> Boreeas: forgot exact path, but I think it is /usr/share/Mozilla/plugins but you will need to navigate to get the path correct. Probably it is in Firefox not Mozilla.
[16:39] <Pici> vArmon: Can I ask why you would want to do that?
[16:39] <AlbertP> anyway dinner is ready. Bye all.
[16:39] <vArmon> Pici: I was afraid you'd ask that. I'm crazy, there's no good reason, but just because.
[16:40] <vArmon> Pici: I mean, is it not possible anymore or what?
[16:41] <Pici> vArmon: If you want to get to single user mode, pick the recovery option from the grub menu
[16:41] <vArmon> Pici: No, I need the *default* to be 1.
[16:41] <drworm> Here's a good one:
[16:41] <P3nGu1N> Hello!
[16:42] <drworm> When I move to the edge of a window to resize it, I have like a 1 pixel margin.
[16:42] <drworm> That needs to change.
[16:42] <drworm> Thoughts?
[16:42] <vArmon> Why is it so difficult for the Linux community to just answer questions? I appreciate you trying, Pici, but... I need to change the default runlevel to 1.
[16:42] <drworm> Because I'll click around for half an hour before getting frustrated and just using the corner drag or maximizing.
[16:42] <six7> vArmon: because the "linux community" has a wide range of knowledge
[16:42] <vArmon> Is it or is it not possible anymore?
[16:43] <six7> evidently nobody here atm knows how to do it
[16:43] <vArmon> six7: All of it which it's ready to share EXCEPT what people actually need.
[16:43] <dannel> vArmon, we can't hear you where our heads are at :D
[16:43] <P3nGu1N> Does anyone know how I can get Ubuntu update to stop removing my madwifi drivers?
[16:43] <enrichedd> howdy
[16:43] <dannel> hello enrichedd
[16:43] <P3nGu1N> Hi enrichedd
[16:43] <vArmon> Well, thanks again, Pici.
[16:43] <vArmon> *grumble*
[16:43] <enrichedd> Im thinking bout going totally linux/open source
[16:43] <vArmon> enrichedd: Do it.
[16:43] <enrichedd> this sopa shit makes me sick
[16:44] <drworm> enrichedd, do it.
[16:44] <dannel> drworm, i agree.. i always end up middle clicking to resize a window
[16:44] <drworm> dannel, ...middle click?
[16:44] <vArmon> enrichedd: There are a few caveats, though, like Flash... there is no decent open-source Flash plugin. There is a Flash plugin but it's closed-source and from Adobe.
[16:44] <dannel> drworm, left+right buttons on touchpad.. or click middle button/scroll wheel on mouse
[16:44] <dannel> alt+middle click
[16:44] <enrichedd> those bastards
[16:44] <vArmon> enrichedd: Other than that, you should be fine.
[16:44] <P3nGu1N> I went full Linux the moment Vista crashed on my laptop and the support said I was expected to burn the reinstall disk from a partition they left on the hard drive.
[16:44] <drworm> That is magic.
[16:45] <vArmon> P3nGu1N: Hahaha! ;)
[16:45] <drworm> dannel, but still, it's a hack, and I'm looking for a fix ;)
[16:45] <drworm> dannel, I do, however, appreciate the input.
[16:45] <drworm> dannel, Greatly.
[16:46] <drworm> P3nGu1N, I seem to remember there being a way to manually manage some packages.
[16:46] <drworm> Searching...
[16:47] <vArmon> Screw it. I now officially hate systemd.
[16:47] <MahaVishnu> vArmon{} it hates you too.
[16:47] <P3nGu1N> I asked around on ubuntu forums a bit, but got no responses on my madwifi issue
[16:47] <SirSpam> I've tried reinstalling ubuntu four times and it still won't get past the blinking cursor
[16:47] <motafoca> guys, i know this might be stupid, but im not sure how to proceed. I have a device with a touchscreen, that on LiveCD Works perfect, but when i install ubuntu, the same stops working, ive googled for answers and nothing, triend making a /etc/X11/xorg.conf file and nothing. How can i copy the X configuration for the touch to work after install?? Thanks!
[16:48] <P3nGu1N> I asked around on 4chan and they suggested that it might be a blob that madwifi has in the kernel causing the problem
[16:48] <MahaVishnu> motafoca{} boot the live cd. in a terminal sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /wherever/backup then copy it back to the new install ?
[16:49] <P3nGu1N> and also suggested looking in to ath9k - which is the newer version of madwifi, but doesn't seem to support injection testing on older kernels
[16:49] <motafoca> MahaVishnu: i dont think there is a /etc/X11/xorg.conf during liveCd, let me check.... thanks
[16:49] <MahaVishnu> motafoca{} good point.
[16:49] <P3nGu1N> without a highly experimental patch - that is listed as untested.
[16:49] <joelet> our office uses squid proxy to control internet.how to set proxy settings for squid and where to?
[16:50] <drworm> joelet, lolwut?
[16:50] <drworm> P3nGu1N, the only thing I can think of with minimal effort is setting Auto-Installed: 0 in /etc/lib/apt/extended-states on the madwifi driver.
[16:51] <Pici> joelet: Look at the squid documentation. They also have a channel here at #squid
[16:51] <drworm> P3nGu1N, that might make apt ignore it when running updates.
[16:51] <joelet> internet is through squid,drworm where to put proxy settings in ubuntu
[16:51] <joelet> thanks Pici
[16:52] <P3nGu1N> drworm thanks for the advice.  I'll give it a shot.
[16:53] <drworm> P3nGu1N, glhf
[16:57] <P3nGu1N> @drworm the people on 4chan also suggested changing OS to Gentoo solve the problem, but that seems a bit overkill and my wife hates it when I switch OS.  She doesn't like trying to learn a new one once she's gotten used to the old one.
[16:58] <drworm> P3nGu1N, Have you been on 4chan often?
[16:58] <P3nGu1N> so, thank you for your suggestion.
[16:58] <P3nGu1N> drworm semiregularly
[16:59] <DarkStar1> Hello guys.
[16:59] <drworm> P3nGu1N, then you should know that, much the same as any place on the internet, and in fact probably more so on 4chan, they were probably trolling you when they said "install Gentoo".
[16:59] <drworm> I mean, Gentoo has it's merits.
[16:59] <DarkStar1> Is it possible to change the locale of my system from say english to french pls?
[16:59] <gigi87> hey guys
[16:59]  * edbian agrees with drworm
[16:59] <xangua> DarkStar1: install french language
[17:00] <noob7> not sure whether this is the right place to ask, but is it possible to run gtk-3 apps i coded on linux using python on windows?
[17:00] <drworm> If cutting edge isn't enough for you and you need need *NEED* bleeding edge and megaultraOCD customization, then yeah.
[17:00] <P3nGu1N> I posted in the /tech/ section and expected serious suggestions.  I know most other sections would tell you to delete your kernel and make it run faster :P
[17:00] <DarkStar1> xangua: how? it's a remote system
[17:00] <edbian> noob7, yeah, but it is a pain in the butt
[17:00] <edbian> noob7, hang on lemme google
[17:00] <gigi87> i wanna use ppa-purge, but i dont know exactly the ppa's name to put into the command.
[17:00] <russellpool> I have a toshiba laptop that the drive failed in.  I replaced the drive and reinstalled ubuntu and it was working fine.  Yesterday when I went to turn it on, it promps me to select Windows or Linux to boot, then it goes to a blank screen with a blinking cursor.  I also have tried booting from CD and USB but they both do the same thing as when just booting from the hard disk.  Any Ideas?
[17:00] <xangua> DarkStar1: ssh¿
[17:01] <DarkStar1> xangua: I am ssh'ed in
[17:01] <noob7> edbian: gtk3 is poorly documented, google doesn't help a lot..
[17:01] <edbian> noob7, I've done it with python and gtk 2.x
[17:01] <edbian> noob7, so I'm guessing yes
[17:01] <russellpool> Any Ideas on that laptop question?
[17:01] <edbian> noob7, http://stackoverflow.com/questions/6006689/where-can-i-download-precompiled-gtk-3-binaries-or-windows-installer
[17:02] <edbian> noob7, Found that
[17:02] <noob7> edbian: is it wise to use gtk with python? not a lot of people seem to use it
[17:02] <gigi87> i wanna use ppa-purge, but i dont know exactly the ppa's name to put into the command. can i tell from synaptic history?
[17:02] <edbian> russellpool, You replaced the harddrive?
[17:02] <drworm> P3nGu1N, yeah, I get on /p/ a lot, and they're pretty good there.
[17:02] <edbian> noob7, Umm, depends what you want.  The good part of gtk & python is speed of development.  That is, it's easy and fast to write code
[17:03] <noob7> edbian: the windows binaries links to rpm files, not sure how ill use them on windows
[17:03] <edbian> noob7, Personally I don't have much experience with other GUI toolkits.  I can say that sometimes gtk is not documented well
[17:03] <russellpool> yes I had replaced the HD last week, but there is a new issue now!!!
[17:03] <russellpool> edbian, yes I had replaced the HD last week, but there is a new issue now!!!
[17:03] <edbian> noob7, Strange.  I'm not sure.  Well the first responder on that link says 'there are no precompiled binaries' so maybe you have to compile gtk3 for yourself for windows
[17:04] <edbian> russellpool, Does the hdd have the OSs installed on it?
[17:04] <russellpool> Do you know what plan of attacK I should take to fix this problem?
[17:04] <edbian> noob7, I'm not sure any of this will work. Since google doesn't return much I'm guessing gtk3 on windows is not a thing yet
[17:04] <edbian> russellpool, Do you have the OSs installed on this new hdd?
[17:05] <xangua> gigi87: search for it on launchoad
[17:05] <vip_> hello.how to dispaly avialable updates at terminal?
[17:05] <noob7> edbian: it is absolutely necessary for me for it to run in windows, maybe i should change toolkits before i get too far with my code?
[17:05] <enrichedd> i just installed ubuntu 11.4 and it seems to work great
[17:05] <P3nGu1N> drworm I haven't tried /p/ for anything yet. I'll check it out.
[17:05] <enrichedd> but when i try to connect to my network via wifi, it says firmware is missing
[17:05] <enrichedd> any ideas on how i can fix this without reinstallation?
[17:06] <P3nGu1N> ah photography.
[17:06] <gigi87> xangua, the synaptic entry for the day i messed up my graphics is, : Upgraded the following packages: avidemux (1:2.5.2-0ubuntu3) to 1:2.5.4-1~getdeb2  Installed the following packages: libvpx0 (0.9.5-2~build0.10.04.1)
[17:06] <enrichedd> I have it setup to be my 2nd OS on startup
[17:06] <drake1> is it normal that all the special keys (volume up/down, mute, brightness, screen on/off etc.) stop to works after a system suspend?
[17:06] <russellpool> edbian, yes I installed ubuntu on the new HD and used the computer for 1 week!!!!!!!!
[17:06] <gigi87> xangua, is this useful to search ppa on launchpad?
[17:06] <russellpool> edbian, but now i have the problem i mentioned.
[17:07] <enrichedd> any ideas?
[17:07] <shiz> wow... i can log into ubuntu but cant find host for linux mint servers...
[17:09] <alesan> hi how can I get Firefox 9?
[17:10] <russellpool> edbian: Pardon my ignorance, but any ideas on what's steps to take to resolve this problem?
[17:10] <alesan> I thought Ubuntu would put it in the daily updates
[17:11] <Humbedooh> they will, eventually
[17:11] <Boreeas> How can i make cp follow links in DEST?
[17:12] <alesan> when? I heard there are no security patches for old versions of firefox
[17:12] <Boreeas> How can i make cp follow links in DEST?
[17:14] <rumpe1> Boreeas, in DEST? o.O
[17:14] <v4s> !hi all
[17:14] <six7> Boreeas: try the -L switch
[17:14] <v4s> I would to get the link regarding the ubuntu cloak
[17:16] <DarkStar1> If I change the locale as per what is mentioned here: http://nanalegumene.net/post/199618513/change-language-in-ubuntu-server do I also have to download and install a language pack or someything?
[17:16] <OerHeks> v4s, joint #Freenode and ask a helper
[17:17] <hydester> how do you mount a cifs path that includes @SSL in it?  is there anything special required?
[17:17] <v4s> OerHeks: already in
[17:18] <OerHeks> v4s, just ast for help with a cloak, they will help you, just be patient.
[17:18] <v4s> thx
[17:18] <gigenieks> Hi guys need help for installing SCID (chess database software). I tried to do that via Ubuntu Software Center - seems like that didn't work.
[17:19] <gigenieks> So now I must do "manual" method I guess with compilation and stuff...
[17:19] <gigenieks> Can someone help?
[17:19] <gigenieks> http://scid.sourceforge.net/download.html
[17:20] <cougarden> is there a zero configuration deb, that will allow me to ssh into my linux-noobish friends ubuntu mashine without any portforwarding etc?
[17:20] <ghostirc1> anyone have experience with XRDP?
[17:20] <edbian> cougarden, port forwarding cannot be avoided in software
[17:20] <edbian> cougarden, And you have to install openssh-server on the target machine (the machine you log into)
[17:21] <edbian> cougarden, * port forwarding cannot be avoided in software on the server
[17:21] <cougarden> edbian, i thought of some server in the middle like many vpn services provide
[17:21] <histo> cougarden: you could use teamviewer then you wouldn't need port forwarding
[17:21] <histo> cougarden: or some other form of reverse connection.
[17:21] <edbian> cougarden, That server will still connect to your friends machine via port forwarding on his router
[17:21] <cougarden> histo, thanks maybe i will try that
[17:22] <edbian> cougarden, I'm assuming you actually need to forward some port
[17:22] <gigi87> hey guys is someone good in ppa-purge?
[17:22] <edbian> histo, cougarden He's right!  use teamviewer
[17:22] <cougarden> edbian, i just need to fix a printers driver :)
[17:22] <histo> cougarden: teamviewer connects via one of their servers as a man in the middle there is no port forwarding that needs to be setup.
[17:22] <edbian> cougarden, one time use?  use teamviewer def
[17:22] <cougarden> edbian, histo thank you!
[17:22] <histo> cougarden: if you want to setup someting long term I would look at a reverse vnc or nx connection.
[17:23] <edbian> cougarden, sure!
[17:24] <zewb> http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/businesstechnology/2002182315_security17.html
[17:25] <drake1> anyone?
[17:26] <TiMiDo> there's 1578 and you'r asking if there is anyone
[17:26] <TiMiDo> lol
[17:26] <drake1> 1578
[17:26] <gigi87> can somebody help me with a ppa problem/ ppa-purge run on it?
[17:26] <theadmin> gigi87: Yes?
[17:27] <reza_> hello
[17:27] <motafoca> MahaVishnu: i dont think there is a /etc/X11/xorg.conf during liveCd, let me check.... thanks
[17:27] <drake1> anyones' special keys stop working after suspend?
[17:27] <motafoca> MahaVishnu: no go, any ideas?
[17:27] <DeltaEpsilon> can some one recommend me an php IDE alternative to Netbeans?
[17:27] <gigi87> ok, the admin thx. i need the command to ppa-purge everything i installed from deb http://archive.getdeb.net/ubuntu/ lucid-getdeb apps
[17:28] <gigi87> the admin, im runing 10.4 lucid
[17:28] <tray76> DeltaEpsilon - tried Eclipse?
[17:29] <hanasaki> how do I get the most current clamav?  there is a malware that they have in the definitinos from march yet its not detected on ubuntu clamscan
[17:29] <gigi87> the admin, i have done a kernel update afterwards, rthough
[17:29] <DeltaEpsilon> tray76, I prefer a native gtk app
[17:29] <freethinking_chi> can anyone help me I am trying to install the update  Microsoft windows compatibility layer and I get a code that says
[17:29] <freethinking_chi> Requires installation of untrusted packages
[17:29] <freethinking_chi> The action would require the installation of packages from not authenticated sources.
[17:29] <freethinking_chi> what should I do?
[17:30] <edbian> freethinking_chi, what does 'Microsoft Windows Compatibility Layer' do?
[17:30] <edbian> freethinking_chi, and why do you need it in Ubuntu?
[17:30] <freethinking_chi> its an update for wine
[17:30] <edbian> freethinking_chi, sudo apt-get safe-upgrade says what?
[17:30] <edbian> freethinking_chi, same thing?
[17:30] <freethinking_chi> I need it to install som windows files
[17:30] <freethinking_chi> namely a driver I need
[17:31] <TiMiDo> freethinking_chi, install ndiswrapper
[17:31] <edbian> TiMiDo, what?
[17:31] <TiMiDo> for windows drivers
[17:31] <freethinking_chi> whats that do?
[17:31] <edbian> TiMiDo, That works for some specific windows wifi drivers.  It does not work for any windows driver for anything
[17:31] <freethinking_chi> and what about windows files I need to install
[17:31] <TiMiDo> ndiswrapper is to Install windows Drivers.
[17:31] <Cogito446> sudo apt-get upgrade
[17:32] <TiMiDo> if drivers are not support it on Linux
[17:32] <TiMiDo> edbian, of course not only a few drivers do work
[17:32] <TiMiDo> i had that same issue onces
[17:32] <edbian> freethinking_chi, TiMiDo stop that.  ndiswrapper is for some specific windows wifi drivers only
[17:32] <edbian> http://sourceforge.net/apps/mediawiki/ndiswrapper/index.php?title=Main_Page
[17:33] <freethinking_chi> so back to my question how do I install the update
[17:33] <edbian> freethinking_chi, what are you doing that causes the error to arise?
[17:33] <bbeattie> anyone know of a repos for 10.04lts server that has a 3.1.x kernel tree?
[17:33] <freethinking_chi> tryimg to install the updat
[17:34] <edbian> freethinking_chi, can you be more specific?  Are you installing something on cli using apt?  Are you clicking something in some wine gui?  Are you installing the driver using wine and getting this error?
[17:34] <rumpe1> bbeattie, lts 10.04 server? 3.1. kernel? ... that doesn't make any sense.
[17:34] <edbian> bbeattie, There is an Ubuntu run PPA for the newer kernels.  Google it
[17:34] <gigenieks> OK, I am reading --- https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingEasyHowTo --- and I'm a bit stuck on Step 3. Can someone give a lil help??
[17:34] <motafoca> guys, i know this might be stupid, but im not sure how to proceed. I have a device with a touchscreen, that on LiveCD Works perfect, but when i install ubuntu, the same stops working, ive googled for answers and nothing, triend making a /etc/X11/xorg.conf file and nothing. How can i copy the X configuration for the touch to work after install?? Thanks!
[17:34] <freethinking_chi> using the software updater in ubuntu
[17:34] <freethinking_chi> thats it
[17:34] <edbian> bbeattie, I'm not sure that you can run kernel 3.x on 10.04
[17:34] <edbian> freethinking_chi, what happens if you run 'sudo apt-get safe-upgrade'
[17:34] <Cogito446> freethinking_chi, try sudo apt-get upgrade
[17:34] <edbian> freethinking_chi, without quotes of course
[17:34] <edbian> Cogito446, safe-upgrade no?
[17:34] <bbeattie> edbian: I test ran a 3.0 kernel, did 3.1 have an architecture change since 3.0?
[17:35] <Cogito446> yes
[17:35] <edbian> bbeattie, IDK
[17:35] <freethinking_chi> wth is sudo apt?
[17:35] <edbian> bbeattie, If 3.0 worked 3.x probably will
[17:35] <drake1> i try to ask in linux instead. bye
[17:35] <edbian> freethinking_chi, It's a command you run in the terminal
[17:35] <edbian> freethinking_chi, sudo makes you root and apt-get is a command line interface for the package manager
[17:35] <bbeattie> edbian: hmm, maybe I'll hold at 2.6.38 until 12.04 comes out and rebuild everything, not ideal but if it's safer.
[17:36] <TiMiDo> edbian, stop what?
[17:36] <edbian> bbeattie, ok
[17:36] <bbeattie> thx
[17:36] <freethinking_chi> ok... without doing that can you help me with the error message its this>>>Requires installation of untrusted packages
[17:36] <freethinking_chi> The action would require the installation of packages from not authenticated sources.
[17:36] <edbian> TiMiDo, Saying that ndiswrapper allows any windows driver to run on linux
[17:36] <TiMiDo> i said some drivers
[17:36] <freethinking_chi> how do i get it to accept that source
[17:36] <edbian> freethinking_chi, no, run the command so we can help with that error message
[17:36] <edbian> freethinking_chi, I think running that command is the solution to that error
[17:37] <LiveOs> hi
[17:37] <gigenieks> OK seems I have to post this "silly" problem to the forums then... :/
[17:38] <edbian> LiveOs, hi
[17:38] <motafoca> guys, help me out, please...
[17:38] <Humbedooh> gigenieks, download the tar-ball, unpack it, run ./configure and then make and make install?
[17:39] <Humbedooh> that's usually the wrap with those things
[17:39] <edbian> motafoca, ask a question
[17:39] <theadmin> gigenieks: All those Ubuntu's problems "works on livecd but not after the install" are pretty huge nowadays. Try opening "Hardware Drivers" and see if you have anything there
[17:39] <motafoca> edbian: i know this might be stupid, but im not sure how to proceed. I have a device with a touchscreen, that on LiveCD Works perfect, but when i install ubuntu, the same stops working, ive googled for answers and nothing, triend making a /etc/X11/xorg.conf file and nothing. How can i copy the X configuration for the touch to work after install?? Thanks!
[17:39] <edbian> motafoca, do what theadmin just told gigenieks to do
[17:40] <LiveOs> edbian: no BFQ patch for linux kernel 3.*?
[17:40] <edbian> LiveOs, I don't even know what that means :P
[17:40] <Humbedooh> anyway, who needs chess when you have Ubuntu - it's like a game of chess itself!
[17:40] <LiveOs> edbian: lool ok man sorry for bothering ;)
[17:40] <Humbedooh> what's it thinking, when and where is it gonna break :>
[17:40] <edbian> LiveOs, that's ok
[17:40] <Multbrelch> Hi all
[17:41] <motafoca> theadmin: hardware drivers on the livecd or the installation?
[17:41] <gigenieks> Humbedooh: I download it, unpacked it. So now I have to run in terminal those commands "/configure" and afterwards "make" and I'm done? Did I understand correctly?
[17:41] <edbian> gigenieks, ./configure
[17:41] <Humbedooh> and make install
[17:41] <Humbedooh> and yes, ./configure
[17:41] <yeehaw> gigenieks: Don't forget make install
[17:41] <TiMiDo> gigenieks, read the INSTALL it tells you what to do and how to compile a program always.
[17:41] <edbian> gigasoft, you need the terminal to be in the same folder though first
[17:41] <Humbedooh> "make" compiles it, "make install" copies it to the right places
[17:41] <gigenieks> "INSTALL"??
[17:42] <edbian> Is that really so shocking?
[17:42] <TiMiDo> yeah gigasoft is a txt file
[17:42] <Multbrelch> Q: I have firefox 8.0, and the operating system is in Italian. I did 'sudo apt-get firefox-locale-it' but the language hasn't changed to Italian in firefox. HELP, what must I do ???
[17:42] <gigenieks> What do you mean TiMiDo?
[17:42] <TiMiDo> that tells you how to compile the codes from the Author it self
[17:42] <SirSpam> I'm getting errors in /var/log/dmesg that say init: failsafe main process (570) killed by TERM signal and  init: apport pre-start process (768) terminated with status 1 init: apport post-stop process (795) terminated with status 1. What do they mean? and how do I fix them?
[17:42] <gigenieks> ahh no he doesnt ---> http://scid.sourceforge.net/tutorial/t_intro_start.html
[17:42] <gigenieks> already searched
[17:42] <TiMiDo> every program comes with either README INSTALL and more stuff
[17:43] <iceowl> gigenieks: INSTALL is a text file that you should read
[17:43] <gigenieks> ahh... lol
[17:43] <edbian> iceowl, icedove
[17:43] <Humbedooh> inside the tar ball you downloaded, there is a file called INSTALL
[17:43] <yeehaw> Multbrelch: apt-get purge firefox firefox-locale-it
[17:43] <gigenieks> will look if it exists
[17:43] <TiMiDo> it does
[17:43] <edbian> yeehaw, why purge that stuff?
[17:43] <sina2> Hi, There is an srt file in Farsi language, I can't read it. it's like the font isn't readable. how can i repair it?
[17:44] <yeehaw> edbian: Is'nt firefox-locale-t a comlete firefox
[17:44] <edbian> yeehaw, ahh, perhaps
[17:44] <yeehaw> *major typos
[17:44] <edbian> yeehaw, I don't know.  I'm asking you :)
[17:44] <gigenieks> iceowl: there is file "README" will follow instrucitons, sec...
[17:44] <Multbrelch> yeehaw, thx but now, firefox is not starting anymore
[17:44] <edbian> yeehaw, I understood what you wrote despite the typos
[17:44] <iceowl> ./configure runs a script that will tell the compiler what tools your system has, and how your system works. make runs the compile script. make install tells the compile script to install the compiled program files in pre-set locations.
[17:44] <TiMiDo> yeehaw, https://launchpad.net/+search?field.text=firefox-locale-t
[17:44] <TiMiDo> there it is ;)
[17:45] <iceowl> gigenieks: you should read README and INSTALL.
[17:45] <llutz> yeehaw: it isn't
[17:45] <yeehaw> Multbrelch: apt-get install firefox-locale-it
[17:45] <yeehaw> llutz: crap
[17:45] <jpmh> how do I set the system to log straight into an account when it boots - 10.4
[17:46] <TiMiDo> jpmh, configured it on your login screen
[17:46] <yeehaw> llutz: But it might install firefox also with the correct language
[17:46] <TiMiDo> before login in to the user it self.
[17:46] <edbian> yeehaw, llutz Multbrelch perhaps Multbrelch has to have both installed but run firefox-locale-it in the term
[17:46] <yeehaw> llutz: If you do apt-get install firefox firefox-locale-it
[17:46] <jpmh> TiMiDo: what login screen?
[17:46] <gigenieks> Btw before I do those commands mentioned earlier do I need to navigate to extracted folder directory in terminal??
[17:46] <TiMiDo> are you using GDM?
[17:46] <edbian> gigenieks, yes
[17:47] <Multbrelch> yeehaw, no ... doesn't work. I can somehow find firefox
[17:47] <edbian> gigasoft, that's what I was saying earlier :)
[17:47] <iceowl> gigenieks: yes
[17:47] <llutz> yeehaw: which he had before (not working)
[17:47] <Multbrelch> edbian, so I must do also sudo apt-get install firefox?
[17:47] <sina2> what's iran ubuntu network?
[17:47] <ikonia> #ubuntu-ir ?
[17:47] <yeehaw> Multbrelch: correct, I thougt it might be the complete package
[17:47] <TiMiDo> !ubuntu-ir
[17:47] <edbian> Multbrelch, apparently (according to llutz )
[17:47] <TiMiDo> lol no such channel
[17:48] <Multbrelch> yeehaw, he is installing ... let's see
 Sorry, I don't know anything about ubuntu-ir
[17:48] <TiMiDo> lol
[17:48] <ikonia> TiMiDo: yes there is an #ubuntu-ir channel
[17:48] <dannel> #ubuntu-ir created on Mon Mar 12 21:56:48 2007 :b
[17:48] <edfed> hello
[17:48] <TiMiDo> ikonia, yeah i saw it right nwo
[17:48] <theadmin> TiMiDo: We don't have factoids to channels -_-
[17:48] <edfed> cool
[17:48] <TiMiDo> is this bot based on info bot also?
[17:48] <ikonia> TiMiDo: which bot ?
[17:48] <TiMiDo> ubottu, ?
[17:49] <iceowl> gigenieks: ps, the reason you type a ./ before configure is because this script is not in your executables path, so it gives your shell a path to the executable.
[17:49] <ikonia> TiMiDo: it's a supybot
[17:49] <iceowl> . is the current working directory
[17:49] <TiMiDo> that it learn factoids ?
[17:49] <Multbrelch> yeehaw, edbian, llutz : I have now firefox but it is still in English ..... hmmmm
[17:49] <gigenieks> OK, this is what I got ---> http://paste.ubuntu.com/778900/
[17:49] <ikonia> TiMiDo: correct
[17:49] <gigenieks> what now?
[17:49] <llutz> yeehaw:  edbian http://packages.ubuntu.com/oneiric/all/firefox-locale-it/filelist      this is what the language-packs contain
[17:49] <TiMiDo> oh cool
[17:49] <gigenieks> How do I launch that software?
[17:49] <TiMiDo> so i can teach him stuff? or only Ubuntu members have access to the bot?
[17:49] <edfed> what does it mean? <edfed>	hello
[17:49] <edfed> 	[17:50] <yeehaw> Multbrelch: Is the language support for 8.0  ready yet?
[17:50] <dannel> edfed, ask in #freenode
[17:50] <TiMiDo> edfed, is your user Name register?
[17:50] <ikonia> edfed: ask in #freenode for help
[17:50] <edfed> yes
[17:51] <edfed> ok
[17:51] <edfed> thanks
[17:51] <iceowl> gigenieks: you don't, there was a compiler error.
[17:51] <gigenieks> btw author says: "After you have downloaded and extracted the right Scid package for your computer (and compiled Scid if you downloaded the source code), you should have an executable file called called scid.exe in the bin/ subdirectory if you use Windows, or scid if you use Linux/Unix. Run this program to start Scid"
[17:51] <sina2> hi, I have some problem in srt file. I always open it in windows, but unfortunately it's not readable in ubuntu. what do u suggest?
[17:51] <sina2> my srt file( subtitle) is in farsi language
[17:51] <drake1> in #linux they say it might be the "uswsusp" that sucks
[17:51] <Multbrelch> yeehaw, just started language support from the os : no offer to update something
[17:51] <gigenieks> iceowl: ahh... OK what now then?
[17:51] <geoffmcc> TiMiDo: i kinda cought the tail end here, but ubottu is based on supybot. Once supy bot is installed you can bzr lp:ubuntu-bots and have all the ubottu scripts and factoids
[17:51] <yeehaw> Multbrelch: Could you try downloading it from mozilla? as an extension?
[17:52] <TiMiDo> geoffmcc, i know but you can still make him learn stuff
[17:52] <iceowl> gigenieks: looks like you need to install TCL. so, do sudo apt-get tcl
[17:52] <Multbrelch> yeehaw, if I remove firefox again and reinstall it, shall I install firefox first and then firefox-language-it?
[17:52] <geoffmcc> TiMiDo: ok, just wanted to make sure you knew
[17:52] <TiMiDo> geoffmcc, yeah, but never mind is only for ops
[17:52] <freko28> why can't I use sudo on Ubuntu Lucid Server?
[17:53] <yeehaw> Multbrelch: or togheter. apt-get install firefox firefox-language-it
[17:53] <genii-around> gigenieks: Might want to put the directive "install" in that command, just between apt-get and tcl
[17:53] <geoffmcc> TiMiDo: not sure what your saying about ops
[17:53] <Multbrelch> yeehaw, I will try this ...
[17:53] <TiMiDo> freko28, do you get any specific error while running "sudo"
[17:53] <freko28> I've activated it but the root password is not good
[17:53] <TiMiDo> geoffmcc, that they can only teach the bot, to do stuff with out downloading the factoids
[17:53] <gigenieks> so 'sudo apt-get install tcl' ?
[17:53] <iceowl> gigenieks: you should be attempting to troubleshoot this yourself, if you hope to understand it. if a compiler throws an error message that says "x is missing", then you need to find out what x is
[17:54] <iceowl> gigenieks: yes
[17:54] <TiMiDo> gigenieks, no apt-cache search tcl8.4
[17:54] <geoffmcc> TiMiDo: ah, bot operator not channel op, i get ya now
[17:54] <TiMiDo> and there you can see which libraries you have available in you'r system on mines i have tcl8.4 tcl8.4-dev
[17:55] <yeehaw> Multbrelch: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/language-tools/
[17:55] <gigenieks> "Reading state information... Done tcl is already the newest version.0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 169 not upgraded."
[17:55] <Boreeas> what's the command to rextract tar files?
[17:55] <widewake> hey, am trying to apt get install pulse audio, i run command and im getting a permission denied. unable to lock the admin directory, una ble to open lock file /var/lib/dpgk/lock, are you root? anyone can be of help?
[17:55] <llutz> Boreeas: tar xf foo.tar
[17:55] <yeehaw> Boreeas: tar -xvf tarfile
[17:55] <widewake> im using the command apt-get install libasound2-plugins libao-pulse libpulse-browse0 libpulse-mainloop-glib0 libpulse0 pulseaudio pulseaudio-esound-compat
[17:55] <ssta> Boreeas: tar xvf foo.tar
[17:55] <yeehaw> lol
[17:55] <freko28> TiMiDo when I use sudo, it ask me a password but the root password don't work
[17:55] <geruja> how to remove kernel which was installed by this command: sudo apt-get install linux-image-generic-lts-backport-natty linux-headers-generic-lts-backport-natty ubuntu 10.04
[17:56] <motafoca> theadmin: no aditional drivers found, any suggestions now?
[17:56] <Boreeas> Thanks :D
[17:56] <TiMiDo> widewake, install gnome and it will install all of your esounds issues
[17:56] <geoffmcc> widewake: either you didnt sudo or maybe there is another apt proccess currently running
[17:56] <gigenieks> iceowl: about "understanding comment" - I totally agree just don't have time for that now, university and chess takes all my free time. Later will do that.
[17:56] <Multbrelch> yeehaw, I will try this after ... thx so far
[17:56] <geruja> how to remove kernel which was installed by this command using ubuntu 10.04: sudo apt-get install linux-image-generic-lts-backport-natty linux-headers-generic-lts-backport-natty
[17:56] <TiMiDo> freko28, put your user names password on the sudo
[17:56] <motafoca> theadmin: my problem is touchscreen working on livecd and after install not...
[17:56] <yeehaw> Multbrelch: np
[17:56] <widewake> TiMiDo, I have gnome, recently purged pulseaudio
[17:56] <gigenieks> TiMiDo: what?
[17:57] <pogarda> hi
[17:57] <TiMiDo> widewake, did you install alsa by any chance,?
[17:57] <drake1> could "uswsusp" eventually disable the special keys?
[17:57] <llutz> motafoca: you could try to login at console and stop Xorg on live-cd, "Xorg -configure" and backup the resulting xorg.conf.new file
[17:57] <yeehaw> geruja: Install another kernel and run atitude autoremove
[17:58] <TiMiDo> drake1, dmesg you'll see what's going on
[17:58] <motafoca> llutz: nice, thanks
[17:58] <widewake> geoffmcc,  your right, though now it says i have wrong package
[17:58] <TiMiDo> with your keys
[17:58] <geruja> yeehaw: i have another kernel
[17:58] <yeehaw> geruja: I ment: aptitude autoremove
[17:58] <BrixSat> hello, i have a fresh install of kubuntu dvd and when i start my system i get nothing
[17:58] <widewake> TiMiDo, i believe i have it, though i did not install it recently
[17:58] <geruja> yeehaw: what it will remove? why i don't have to specify?
[17:58] <yeehaw> geruja It will remove all unused packages
[17:58] <xangua> geruja: sounds like you enables backport updates
[17:58] <drake1> TiMiDo: should i try dmesg before the error and after?
[17:58] <TiMiDo> widewake, then make sure alsa is not running in the back ground
[17:59] <TiMiDo> yes drake1 always
[17:59] <drake1> ok
[17:59] <TiMiDo> to see what's going on with your system
[17:59] <geruja> yeehaw: it wont remove windows? as it wont be used
[17:59] <yeehaw> geruja: No :p
[17:59] <rostayob> How do I check which file a certain package has installed/changed?
[17:59] <geruja> xangua: what do u mean?
[17:59] <widewake> tried another command, installed :)
[18:00] <widewake> Anyone know much about Tf2 troubleshooting? Crashes after intro
[18:00] <pogarda> i have a general question for those who use linux to produce music. Is there any reason why Qtractor or any of the midi sequencers recognise my Yamaha keyboard?
[18:00] <pogarda> do not recognise*
[18:01] <gigenieks> By the way, this is what I am trying to install --- http://scid.sourceforge.net/download.html
[18:01] <drake1> another question: how come the screen sometimes doesn't turn off the backlight when the screen is turned off by the screen saver / lock event?
[18:01] <gigenieks> OK guys what now?? Tcl (don't know what it is) seems to already exist in my system. What is next step?
[18:01] <kyubutsu> drake1: that's only going to happen if the monitor is off..
[18:02] <drake1> seems pretty unprofessional
[18:02] <kenperkins> generally speaking, when using iptables to limit inbound connections, how secure is an ubuntu box? (I want to have an SMTP relay that only accepts connections from my application servers)
[18:02] <geoffmcc> gigenieks: why not sudo apt-get install scid
[18:02] <drake1> kyubutsu: sure
[18:02] <TiMiDo> drake1, amd 64?
[18:02] <widewake> Anyone familiar with Tf2 errors?
[18:03] <drake1> TiMiDo: 32bit mode i think
[18:03] <TiMiDo> uname -r
[18:03] <TiMiDo> and paste the output
[18:03] <geruja> yeehaw: i was running this command earlier to remove sudo apt-get purge linux-image-generic-lts-backport-natty linux-headers-generic-lts-backport-natty but i got error, what does really this command do?
[18:03] <drake1> 3.0.0-12-generic
[18:03] <TiMiDo> oh
[18:03] <gigenieks> geoffmcc: I don't know why. Maybe you can't install it that way. Or scid in repositories is older than in that site. Also autohor didn't mention to install that way - probably have a reason I guess....
[18:03] <TiMiDo> x68/x64
[18:03] <TiMiDo> nice
[18:04] <gigenieks> * author
[18:04] <TiMiDo> drake1, computer specs?
[18:04] <TiMiDo> HP?
[18:04] <pogarda> i have a general question for those who use linux to produce music. Is there any reason why Qtractor or any of the midi sequencers do not recognise my Yamaha keyboard? do i need to do anything special? im rather new to Linux in general
[18:05] <drake1> it's a sandybridge / atom with integrated 3d pipes
[18:05] <TiMiDo> pogarda, which yahama series is it?
[18:05] <gigenieks> Btw I read this from README ---> "..then "make" to compile the    programs. The configure script tries to determine the appropriate    Makefile settings for your computer. If it is not successful, you    may need to edit the file "Makefile" before typing "make"."
[18:05] <TiMiDo> no gigenieks
[18:05] <TiMiDo> it does it automaticly
[18:05] <gigenieks> "you may need to edit the file "Makefile BEFORE typing "make"."
[18:06] <TiMiDo> *automatically
[18:06] <gigenieks> but what to edit???!
[18:06] <pogarda> TiMiDo dgx-620
[18:07] <TiMiDo> ok
[18:07] <TiMiDo> pogarda, type in the terminal lspci
[18:07] <gigenieks> Makefile content uploaded here: http://paste.ubuntu.com/778922/
[18:07] <gigenieks> So I have absolutely no clue what I must do now!!
[18:08] <TiMiDo> gigenieks, you don't need to edit the Makefile the Make files are rules written on the go ready for compiling
[18:08] <gigenieks> TiMiDo: what I NEED to do then?
[18:08] <TiMiDo> just type make
[18:08] <TiMiDo> and your good
[18:08] <gigenieks> already did
[18:08] <TiMiDo> did it finish compiling?
[18:09] <TiMiDo> it should tell you now to make install
[18:09] <wad> I've installed mysql server on my laptop, as every once in a while I need to use it. But it runs every time I reboot. What's the Right Way to tell the system not to start this service automaticallly? I'd like to just start it manually when I want it.
[18:09] <gigenieks> TiMiDo: this is what I got ----> http://paste.ubuntu.com/778900/
[18:09] <pogarda> TiMiDo done i have loads of lines there which could be written in chinesse to me (
[18:10] <TiMiDo> !paste
[18:10] <TiMiDo>  Checking if your system already has zlib installed: no
[18:10] <TiMiDo> therefor you cannot install the program sudo apt-get install zlib
[18:11] <TiMiDo> zlib-bin
[18:11] <Dante_> hii
[18:12] <TiMiDo> gigenieks, what are you trying to compile and why?
[18:14] <motafoca> llutz: the configure worked, xorg.conf loaded. but still no touch, lol
[18:14] <motafoca> llutz: it actually recognizes the "touch" but not the coordinates, if you know what i mean
[18:14] <Multbrelch> yeehaw, there is no Italian language pack for firefox 8.0
[18:15] <TiMiDo> pogarda, lol why are you typing make for?
[18:16] <TiMiDo> pogarda, please refer it in here
[18:16] <pogarda> http://paste.ubuntu.com/778931/
[18:16] <TiMiDo> msg me one more time
[18:16] <TiMiDo> and i'll ignore you
[18:16] <geoffmcc> motafoca: seen something on askubuntu but didnt think it was what you needed, now i think it is- lemme see if i can find again.
[18:16] <gigenieks> TiMiDo: I am trying SCID which is chess database application. Why? Because I tried already it install via Ubuntu Software Center which kinda failed. I have (not 100% sure) new item in Games >> XBoard but if I try to launch it - nothing happens! (P.S. XBoard is -- " XBoard is a graphical user interface for chess in all its major forms..." source: http://www.gnu.org/software/xboard/) Do you need any more information or anything?
[18:16] <pogarda> im brand new to this business - sorry
[18:16] <geoffmcc> motafoca: even said someone made a script to detect the settings auto
[18:16] <gigenieks> *installing SCID*
[18:16] <TiMiDo> pogarda, there it is Bus 004 Device 007: ID 0499:1039 Yamaha Corp.
[18:16] <motafoca> geoffmcc: nice, if you find it its great :)
[18:17] <TiMiDo> so it is support it
[18:17] <geoffmcc> motafoca: did it work untill you conencted a monitor? cause if memory serves thats when his messed up
[18:17] <TiMiDo> pogarda, now run Qtractor in the Terminal
[18:17] <motafoca> geoffmcc: actually its a touchscreen, so image is on same device
[18:18] <TiMiDo> to see the real errors, and paste, it on the site, i give you.
[18:18] <motafoca> geoffmcc: its a chinese x86 tablet
[18:18] <pogarda> TiMiDo, done
[18:18] <TiMiDo> what's the link?
[18:20] <pogarda> TiMiDo, http://paste.ubuntu.com/778936/ is that wat you are asking for?
[18:20] <geoffmcc> motafoca: ok, maybe it wont help, but have a look at http://askubuntu.com/questions/71768/touchscreen-and-additional-external-monitor. then see the forum article refernced. Might not be your solution, but may help you to find one
[18:20] <SachinDey> Compiz has issues with GTK-window-decorator
[18:21] <SachinDey> The title bar disappears some time
[18:21] <auronandace> SachinDey: thats compiz for you
[18:22] <gigi87> anyone experience with ppa-purge?
[18:22] <SachinDey> Well i use unity2d it uses metacity
[18:23] <TiMiDo> pogarda, adduser user audio
[18:23] <TiMiDo> as sudo
[18:23] <SunTsu> gigi87: do you expect everybody to answer yes or no to that question? Just ask what you want to know
[18:23] <gigenieks> gigi87: maybe I can help you wait a sec...
[18:23] <SunTsu> !ask > gigi87
[18:23] <gigi87> gigenieks, thx
[18:24] <geoffmcc> gigi87 has installed a ppa getdeb, that replaces some offical ubuntu packages with .getdeb packages. he wants to purge the ppa and revert all programs back to offical version
[18:24] <Josep> Guys, I could really use some help! The thing is that my school has moved to Ubuntu and my pendrives get corrupted each time i make things in the school pc and i lose my files. I dont have internet but i have a pc. The thing is that i need a ubuntu cd so that i can have full compatibility with my pc, and besides, it looks very cool!
[18:24] <geoffmcc> gigi87: last night i had instructed to try ppa-purge but it not avail in lucid, he needs a better way to remove the ppa and purge the packages
[18:25] <geoffmcc> gigi87: interestingly enough i did manage to find ppa-purge, but it claims it is in the ppa he is trying to purge
[18:25] <gigi87> SunTsu, if i wanna use this which command would it be to purge everything form everything i installed from deb http://archive.getdeb.net/ubuntu/ lucid-getdeb apps, does the ppa still ahve to be in config
[18:25] <pogarda> TiMiDo, shall i type it in terminal? hope you wont get angry but u r dealing with complete noob here
[18:25] <kyubutsu> geoffmcc: software sources front end can handle that
[18:25] <gigenieks> gigi87: Watch this (4 min) ----> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jxtyoTNHEy0&list=PLD12AE96E399A8FBE&index=26&feature=plpp_video
[18:25] <SachinDey> Josep do you use safely remove drive everytime on ubuntu
[18:26] <Josep> well i dont really know how to do that
[18:26] <gigi87> geoffmcc, you remember, i installed an hour ago, but it doesnt seem to work with the commands i enter
[18:26] <xangua> geoffmcc: gigi87 ppa-purge is not valid because getdeb is not a ppa repository
[18:26] <TiMiDo> pogarda, yes sudo adduser username audio that will add your user name  to the audio list log out and come back and you should be available to use the device now
[18:26] <Josep> and SachinDey you know about any links to order free or know anyone who could help me
[18:26] <gigi87> xangua , deb http://archive.getdeb.net/ubuntu/ lucid-getdeb apps was the ppa
[18:26] <geoffmcc> gigi87: there you go. looks like some more knoledgeable people are here to help now. sorry if i pointed you in wrong direction last night
[18:27] <xangua> gigi87: that is not a PPA, not from Launchpad
[18:27] <SachinDey> Josep From the menu bar Go-Computer- you'll see pendrive name right click
[18:27] <gigi87> ok , xangua, so ppa-purge only works with launchpad sources?
[18:28] <SachinDey> Josep you can't get free order you'll have to pay shipping
[18:28] <geoffmcc> gigi87: but now also in my defense, you gave a little more info now
[18:28] <xangua> gigi87: indeed
[18:29] <magni-indigo> hello how do i set in startup applications preferences  to start this command  sudo logkeys -s -m mylang.map -o ~keys.log
[18:29] <Josep> well im kay with that, SachinDey any links?
[18:29] <gigenieks> gigi87: did you watch that video which I provided? (there is useful application for PPA's)
[18:29] <pogarda> TiMiDo, i typed sudo-adduser pogarda audio and nothing happened shall i log out now?
[18:29] <harovali> hi!, where does NetworkManager store the data it gathers thru the GUI ?  I'd like to edit it from the command line, if that is possible at all.
[18:29] <TiMiDo> no pogarda
[18:29] <TiMiDo> you insert the command wrong
[18:29] <gigi87> xangua, ok, thx, daminit, is there i good way to remove dependencies from the non-launchpad-ppa source above? about 6 packages from there seems to have crooked my graphics a little, libs or sth was most of their names
[18:29] <TiMiDo> i never said sudo-adduser
[18:29] <TiMiDo> i said sudo adduser pogarda audio
[18:30] <SachinDey> Josep: google opencd or go to distrowatch it has links to order cd
[18:30] <gigi87> gigenieks, still downloading it, flasho wont work
[18:30] <Josep> nice thnx
[18:30] <geoffmcc> magni-indigo: just go to startup applications, new and then insert in command line
[18:30] <geoffmcc> magni-indigo: actually its add, not new
[18:31] <gigi87> yeah, geoff, i found ot config.list.save stzill contained the exact ppa so i got the name now
[18:31] <xangua> gigi87: what does getdeb has to do with graphics¿¿ it only adds some extra and updated packages
[18:31] <pogarda> TiMiDo, i done it and still terminal cursor jumps to the next line - nothins is happening. Should i restart my comp now or again due to my ignorance ive done something wrong?
[18:32] <SachinDey> We all are the linux community, community support guaranteed
[18:32] <TiMiDo> paste the out put,
[18:32] <gigi87> xangua, yes but now i see cut images when frames move quickyl
[18:32] <TiMiDo> of the command
[18:32] <gigi87> xangua, i guess that was a way old ppa, which added some lib-packs
[18:32] <BooVeMan> hi, i have (to have) 2 IPs one say 192.168.0.123 and 192.168.1.123 - the default gw is 192.168.1.121 - said that I can ping anything in red .0.0 and .1.0 and the internet
[18:33] <BooVeMan> I have though a mysql server at 192.168.0.9 and that I can píng
[18:33] <gmachine_24> Hi. I am trying to install/configure an old Lexmark Z11 printer; I cannot seem to find the right driver - the drivers Ubuntu has show only a Lexmark Z12 (and a bunch of others).
[18:33] <BooVeMan> and I can telnet it to port 3306
[18:33] <AndroidLoverInSF> i mount cifs shares at home, but when i leave the house and dock at starbucks, my kde dolphin often hangs, as well as kde start menu. i think part of it is due to cifs mount has no timeout option. is there an easy way to prevent these problems when i sleep my laptop, then start it back up someplace that doesn't have access to those network mounts? other than restarting my laptop?
[18:33] <BooVeMan> but I can't connectwith my mysql client
[18:34] <pogarda> TiMiDo, YAY! ive done it again and it gave me output http://paste.ubuntu.com/778955/
[18:34] <TiMiDo> ok then log out
[18:34] <Ic00p> BooVeMan: Subnet? /16?
[18:34] <gigenieks> P.S. I'm still having my issue.... :/
[18:34] <TiMiDo> if that does not work reboot the computer
[18:34] <BooVeMan> Ic00p: yup
[18:34] <xangua> gigi87: like i said getdeb is not a PPA, stop confusing yourself
[18:34] <BooVeMan> Ic00p: ehh - /24 isn't it?
[18:34] <pogarda> TiMiDo, thx ill restart now brb
[18:35] <gigi87> xangua, but i installed something from there after apt-get update?
[18:35] <Ic00p> with a /24 192.168.0.9 and 192.168.1.123 are in different subnets
[18:36] <BooVeMan> Ic00p: but isn't that the idea?
[18:37] <BooVeMan> I havea local net (.0.0) and a net which goes out to the internet  (1.0)
[18:37] <phong_> hi yall
[18:38] <BooVeMan> as my machine has2 IPs Itshouldconnect fine (as it does with telnet) but not withthe stocj mysql client
[18:38] <gigi87> xangua, can you suggest sth. for my problem, the if purge wont work, try to remove visible packages in synaptic?
[18:39] <DemonWitch> can i make upstart start ntp-client after network connectivity has been established?
[18:39] <Ic00p> did you check mysqld.conf if access is allowed for any other than localhost?
[18:39] <xangua> gigi87: remove them one by one sounds like the only way to go
[18:39] <gigenieks> gigi87: so that software didn't do the job?
[18:39] <gigenieks> or you haven't tried yet?
[18:39] <BooVeMan> Ic00p: yes its allowed
[18:39] <xangua> but like i said again i don't see what getdeb is related to graphic issues
[18:39] <xangua> gigi87:
[18:39] <BooVeMan> Ic00p: and as I said Icantelnet
[18:39] <dr_willis> DemonWitch:  you should be able to.. Not sure why it wouldent be the default to do it that way.
[18:39] <gigi87> gigenieks, no thx, but the video didnt help, people say the ppa i added wasnt a valid repository
[18:40] <dr_willis> night all...
[18:40] <llutz> BooVeMan: what error from mysql-client?
[18:41] <frubsi> I have a Q for an Italian Ubuntu OS:  Firefox 8 <= is still in English but I want to have Italian language, tried firefox-locale-it but doesnt work
[18:41] <frubsi> before I was Multbrech, sry
[18:41] <gigenieks> gigi87: ahh ok - I don't know much about this stuff - just wondered maybe it could help you since you mentioned "PPA purge" and I remembered that video - was worth trying anyway. Maybe, just maybe, they are wrong. Seems quite useful application anyway needed now or later!! ;))
[18:41] <BooVeMan> llutz: none- just sits there
[18:41] <gigi87> gigenieks, i havent tried the y ppa software
[18:41] <mikere> Hello.  I'm using 10.04 with the nvidia driver and just upgraded my video card from a 9800 gtx+ to a 550 Ti and when I boot in I get an error and a little window to attempt some changes like reconfiguring x.  I reconfigure x and it still dumps me to a console, but then starting x gets me in to 800x600.  Xorg.log says it's not loading "nvidia", kernel log has an error as well.  Any ideas?
[18:41] <DemonWitch> dr_willis, ntp_client tries to start at the default runlevel
[18:41] <DemonWitch> when i dont have internet connectivity
[18:42] <BooVeMan> llutz: sometimes (just sometimes) it will connect after 10 min or so....
[18:42] <xangua> frubsi: is your user session on italian also¿
[18:42] <gigi87> ay thanks maybe im gonna install thos
[18:42] <gigi87> this, thx gigenoeks
[18:42] <mikere> The kernel error is: nvidia: probe of 0000:01:00.0 failed with error -1
[18:42] <pogarda> TiMiDo, still Qtractor seems to do not tame a single note from yamaha.
[18:42] <frubsi> xangua, the whole system is in Italian
[18:42] <gigenieks> O.K. - thanks for trying help me with compilation issue - since it hasn't been fixed and noone is saying anythin - will have to post this on Ubuntu Forums. Thanks who tried to help. :)
[18:42] <gigenieks> *people who*
[18:42] <llutz> BooVeMan: mysql --debug...  and check
[18:43] <xangua> frubsi: then check firefox addons - language
[18:43] <frubsi> xangua: I tried but there is no language package for Italian
[18:43] <frubsi> strange I know
[18:43] <TiMiDo> pogarda, try this sudo apt-get install rosegarden
[18:43] <BooVeMan> llutz: mysql: ERROR: Option 'debug' used, but is disabled
[18:44] <xangua> frubsi: sounds like you downloaded and use firefox8 from firefox.com
[18:44] <w30> SunTsu, I don't know what was going on with my computer and the wrong display of mounted files from other ubuntu distros, but the problem is gone. The only thing I did was a complete shutdown instead of a reboot. Hardware glitches can survive just a reboot but software?
[18:44] <frubsi> xangua: could it be that I must go back to firefox 3 or 4?
[18:44] <xangua> frubsi: what ubuntu version do you have¿
[18:44] <frubsi> xangua: no, in fact I have Mint 11.04 which is same like ubuntu 11.04
[18:45] <xangua> !mint | frubsi
[18:45] <llutz> BooVeMan:  mysql -v --debug=d:t:O,/tmp/client.trace  ....youroptions...
[18:45] <frubsi> :-)
[18:46] <BooVeMan> llutz: mysql: ERROR: Option 'debug=d:t:O,/tmp/client.trace' used, but is disabled
[18:46] <TiMiDo> BooVeMan, sudo apt-get install mysql-admin
[18:46] <frubsi> ubottu: there is no user in Mint-help
[18:47] <TiMiDo> frubsi, read
[18:47] <oCean> frubsi: that does not make it on topic here, sorry
[18:47] <frubsi> k
[18:47] <TiMiDo> seek support in #linuxmint-help on irc.spotchat.org
[18:47] <genii-around> frubsi: Not on freenode
[18:47] <TiMiDo> !lart
[18:47] <TiMiDo> lol
[18:47] <bitcycle> Hey all.  Can someone advise me on how to change conversation font in Empathy to a fixed width font?
[18:48] <BooVeMan> TiMiDo: mysql-admin is already the newest version
[18:48] <pr0pagandhi> so what kind of stuff would I need to know in order to contribute to the Ubuntu project?
[18:48] <TiMiDo> BooVeMan, then open it up
[18:48] <genii-around> !contribute | pr0pagandhi
[18:48] <pr0pagandhi> thanks alot! will check it out forsure
[18:49] <TiMiDo> then forsure you'll learn lol
[18:49] <pogarda> hmmm from what ive seen here today sudo apt-get install appname gets you app u need... still have no idea what sudo does but i hope ill figure it out someday. Linux is so much fun than windows and i feel like using it i pay respect to those who contibute their time and effort to develop it. You guys are owesome
[18:50] <lotuspsychje> cool nick pr0pa
[18:50] <Lamdba314> Hi there
[18:50] <BooVeMan> TiMiDo: same just sits there and spins the ball
[18:50] <Gentoo64> pogarda, you cant install apps as normal user (which you are without sudo) sudo gives you temp admin rights
[18:50] <oCean> pogarda: sudo will temporarily elevate your privileges. You use as a normal user it before "administrator" commands
[18:50] <duckxx> OMFG.. go gentoo or go ubuntu ??
[18:50] <kdkllslsl> hi
[18:51] <oCean> duckxx: control your language here, please
[18:51] <kdkllslsl> ! root         1312 tty7   /usr/bin/X :0 -auth /var/run/lightdm/root/:0 -nolisten tcp vt7 -novtswitch -background none
[18:51] <Lamdba314> I'm planning to set up a dns server and a dns server on the same server. Is this alright or does the DNS server as to be on another server ?
[18:51] <TiMiDo> pogarda, try Ubuntu Software Center
[18:51] <kdkllslsl> does anyone knwo what that chkroot warning about tty was about
[18:51] <elena> hi, i'm having troubles printing with my canon mx340, my os is ubuntu 11.10
[18:51] <duckxx> omg, gentoo or ubuntu??
[18:51] <lotuspsychje> im searching for xvidcap config file, someone knows whats it name?
[18:51] <Lamdba314> *and a web server (apache)
[18:52] <TiMiDo> lotuspsychje, locate xvidcap
[18:52] <oCean> duckxx: don't be smart, just don't use such acronyms here. Also, don't use this channel for polls
[18:52] <TiMiDo> /usr/share/app-install/desktop/xvidcap:xvidcap.desktop
[18:52] <pogarda> ty guys for the input! TiMiDo i use SC this way i got Audiacity quite decent and powerfull tool, but id love to learn how to use terminal to gather all of that "magic" i was missing while using windows
[18:52] <kdkllslsl> i have a chkroot warning saying the tty of the following process wasnt found does anhyone know if it is dodgy or not it is the following process:! root         1312 tty7   /usr/bin/X :0 -auth /var/run/lightdm/root/:0 -nolisten tcp vt7 -novtswitch -background none
[18:52] <TiMiDo> pogarda, then Read ;) on ubuntu.com
[18:52] <TiMiDo> you'll sure learn
[18:53] <lotuspsychje> timido:lemme take a look tnx
[18:53] <elena> i tried the hints found on ubuntu forums, the driver get installed but when i launch a printing it stays in queue telling that it's elaborating
[18:53] <TiMiDo> lotuspsychje, no problem
[18:53] <duckxx> oCean, why are u so mean to me?
[18:53] <elena> no help for me?
[18:53] <oCean> !guidelines | duckxx
[18:53] <mikere> pogarda: Also read Linux System Administrators Guide (LSAG) if you really want to get into it in detail.  Freely available on the net.
[18:53] <kdkllslsl> what is lightdm for instance
[18:53] <duckxx> ok i will read it
[18:54] <TiMiDo> elena, lspci the output to paste.ubuntu.com
[18:54] <elena> should it be because of cups daemon?
[18:54] <e01> how can i enable global menu for eclipse
[18:54] <elena> ok
[18:54] <pogarda> i donated quite a money to ubuntu - i know money wont do much, but still its the way to develop in some circumstances. mikere i certainly will do! ty
[18:54] <ix_> what is eclipse?
[18:54] <TiMiDo> ix_, apt-cache search eclipse
[18:54] <TiMiDo> !info eclipse
[18:54] <TiMiDo> better
[18:54] <e01> ix_, ide
[18:55] <kdkllslsl> is there another ubuntu channel for help
[18:55] <ix_> oh, I see
[18:55] <TiMiDo> no kdkllslsl
[18:55] <elena> http://paste.ubuntu.com/778984/
[18:55] <TiMiDo> only this one
[18:55] <e01> i had it, but after reinstall my ubuntu it lost
[18:55] <blackbox> is their any difference between using umask over chmod and visa-versa ?
[18:55] <TiMiDo> elena, now paste me your dmesg
[18:55] <mikere> I'm having an nvidia driver problem after upgrading my video card.  I just disabled the Hardware Driver and am about to reboot to see if I can still get a GUI - any better ideas before I reboot?
[18:55] <kdkllslsl> ! root         1312 tty7   /usr/bin/X :0 -auth /var/run/lightdm/root/:0 -nolisten tcp vt7 -novtswitch -background none  any idea if this process aproblem timido or where i could find that out
[18:56] <lotuspsychje> timido: seems like only the xvidcap program is in that folder
[18:56] <TiMiDo> kdkllslsl, man iptables
[18:56] <oCean> TiMiDo: don't be silly, there are *lots* of ubuntu channels.
[18:56] <frubsi> Xaifas ubottu TiMiDo  oCean genii-around ... and all the others: The solution was activating the language in the addon section <= This is what I got from an other Ubuntu channel <= 100 points for them. ---- Anyway, thx. ;-)
[18:56] <TiMiDo> i though he meant on ubuntu support ;)
[18:56] <elena> TiMiDo, do you need all dmesg or last lines are enough?
[18:56] <kdkllslsl> why would chkroot flag it
[18:56] <oCean> TiMiDo: yes, there are many
[18:57] <TiMiDo> frubsi, do it in launchpad ;)
[18:57] <frubsi> I would like to share here
[18:57] <TiMiDo> leave me your feed back also on my wiki wiki.ubuntu.com/AaronFarias
[18:57] <TiMiDo> ;)
[18:57] <pogarda> TiMiDo, thx for the Rose! it recognises my Yamaha and it plays notes from pattern on it! To do not waiste any more of your time ill work out on my own now how to make it also read XD
[18:58] <TiMiDo> no problem pogarda
[18:58] <TiMiDo> any time ;)
[18:58] <kdkllslsl> neone know how to open nixory tarball. i click on nixory.py and the terminal screen flashes up very quickly but thats it...
[18:58] <pogarda> Last, but very general question - does Ubuntu recognise VST's? I mean i payed donkey money to use them before i got angry on Gill Gates
[18:59] <Gentoo64> py isnt trball
[18:59] <kdkllslsl> no i unpacked it first
[18:59] <LemonAid> Hello. What logs should i attach when submitting a 'kernel panic' bug report?
[18:59] <kdkllslsl> the mag said just click on nixory py and it would load but it didnt
[19:00] <TiMiDo> pogarda, read this http://noisyheron.wordpress.com/2009/04/05/running-vst-plugins-on-ubuntu-linux-by-building-ardour-with-vst-support/
[19:00] <genii-around> kdkllslsl: Maybe try running it from terminal instead to see what it might be telling you
[19:00] <TiMiDo> or these pogarda https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuStudioPreparation
[19:01] <Gentoo64> kdkllslsl, is that some antispyware thing?
[19:01] <TiMiDo> or even better pogarda sudo apt-get install blop caps cmt fil-plugins rev-plugins swh-plugins tap-plugins
[19:01] <elena> TiMiDo, here is dmesg paste: http://paste.ubuntu.com/778992/
[19:01] <kdkllslsl> ok. why dont they just make tarballs or zip files self extracting and easy to install and run. cant someone bring out the equivalent of gdebi to do that for tz files or is there one or am i talking pap
[19:01] <magni-indigo> hello some one can helpme to set up autoesecution of logkeys?
[19:01] <pogarda> ok im off to do my homework. TiMiDo Thank you very very much for your patience with me - total noob in Linux field!
[19:01] <TiMiDo> don't worry any time you need support come back ;)
[19:02] <TiMiDo> if I'm not here I'm sure there is more users that will help ya
[19:02] <lotuspsychje> https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/312563 any reccomends for this error?
[19:02] <TiMiDo> elena, is your printer connect it?
[19:02] <DemonWitch> "Ubuntu" is an African word meaning "I can't install Gentoo".
[19:02] <pogarda> Thx TiMiDo before ill come back ill read up on those tutorials you guys so kindly pasted for me
[19:02] <kdkllslsl> has anyone tried to install and configure snort for instance. ther is no way to work it out unless your a programmer or something who has been shut away with a computer for far too long..
[19:03] <elena> yep, it is... via usb
[19:03] <pompi> hi
[19:03] <TiMiDo> yeah pogarda ;) good start
[19:03] <Gentoo64> kdkllslsl, do you even need it?
[19:03] <TiMiDo> elena, what printer is it?
[19:03] <kdkllslsl> no have fail2ban
[19:03] <elena> canon pixma mx340
[19:03] <Gentoo64> kdkllslsl, theres guides on pretty much every program
[19:03] <DemonWitch> GO UBUNTU YOURSELFS.
[19:03] <kdkllslsl> i dont even know what it does to be honest
[19:03] <atruno> how doi purge natty full install then reinstall it all i one session.  no previous packages
[19:03] <oCean> DemonWitch: stop that nonsense
[19:03] <DemonWitch> kk
[19:04] <pompi> linux mint 12
[19:04] <TiMiDo> elena, read this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1543191
[19:04] <oCean> pompi: linux mint is not supported here
[19:04] <BooVeMan> For the record - it was a failing dns resolution on the mysql-server end
[19:05] <pompi> k but is linux
[19:05] <pogarda> Thank you guys again and good luck, but most of all Merry Christmas to you all! Now ill shut XChat to play with rose D
[19:05] <pompi> based on ubuntu
[19:05] <atruno> i dont like having to reboot natty on new install after every network manager change and it doesn't work despite it having everything it needs
[19:05] <atruno> how doi purge natty full install then reinstall it all i one session.  no previous packages
[19:05] <oCean> pompi: there are many derivatives of ubuntu. Not supported here
[19:05] <Gentoo64> pompi, they have their own channel
[19:06] <atruno> i've already changed my mirror
[19:06] <pompi> is not working
[19:06] <kdkllslsl> is there a program that can automatically process zip files or tarballs in linux instead of the insane nonsense that never seems to work you have to go through to do it manually
[19:06] <atruno> to a .gov
[19:07] <pompi> ok i'm new
[19:07] <propman> pompi:  mint irc just came back on line
[19:07] <Gentoo64> kdkllslsl, yeah, ubuntu should come with file-roller
[19:07] <Gentoo64> a gui
[19:07] <elena> TiMiDo, i already done those passages, drivers got installed but the sent job remains in queue sayng it's elaborating
[19:07] <kdkllslsl> how do i write some rules for fail2ban also. ne suggestions on where to start . a manual for real dummies
[19:07] <pompi> sorry noae is ok
[19:07] <elena> btw i can try to do it back
[19:07] <TiMiDo> what are you printing with elena ?
[19:08] <atruno> kdkllslsl, denyhosts is so simple and nice
[19:08] <propman> pompi:  they have been having some problems with there server the last little while...hopefully they will get the bugs ironed out soon
[19:08] <elena> TiMiDo, i'm printing the test page
[19:08] <kdkllslsl> i was looking at a blog where the chap was explaining how each element of the instructions he wrote worked. I mean it was frightening. how on earth he worked it out is beyond me. they should come up with a higher level language or somehting
[19:09] <TiMiDo> ok
[19:09] <TiMiDo> then you are good ;)
[19:09] <TiMiDo> if it prints the test page you are good.
[19:09] <elena> nope
[19:10] <TiMiDo> it does not print?
[19:10] <elena> the test page remains in queue and get never printed
[19:10] <TiMiDo> then
[19:11] <elena> it's 43 minutes it's in queue
[19:11] <TiMiDo> elena, do you have cups install?
[19:11] <elena> and under status it says it's elaborating
[19:11] <elena> yes i do
[19:12] <lotuspsychje> elena: some printers need allignment first with scanner before it wants to print test page
[19:12] <TiMiDo> ok
[19:12] <TiMiDo> elena, do this  sudo cp /etc/cups/cupsd.conf /etc/cups/cupsd.conf.original sudo chmod a-w /etc/cups/cupsd.conf.original
[19:12] <pr0pagandhi> I think the next release should have been named something with penguins
[19:13] <TiMiDo> pr0pagandhi, #ubuntu-offtopic
[19:13] <TiMiDo> give them your opinion
[19:14] <TiMiDo> or even better elena sudo usermod -aG lpadmin username
[19:14] <elena> TiMiDo, perhaps you mean sudo chmod a-w /etc/cups/cupsd.conf and not to cups.conf.original
[19:15] <TiMiDo> add your self to the lpadmin group
[19:15] <atruno> good enough does no mean distribution releases
[19:16] <kiosk_dude10> Ladies and gents, I'm interested in automating the addition of two network printers (i.e. via a BASH script). Not too familiar with CUPS.
[19:17] <TiMiDo> kiosk_dude10, build it your self or refer it to #bash in terms of bash scripting
[19:18] <kiosk_dude10> I'm fine with scripting, but not with the handling of CUPS config. Can I copy over the printers conf file and then rebuild the PPD?
[19:18] <TiMiDo> yeah kiosk_dude10  read this https://help.ubuntu.com/11.04/serverguide/C/cups.html
[19:18] <ubuntu> hi
[19:18] <elena> TiMiDo, no luck
[19:18] <pr0pagandhi> its ubuntu itself!
[19:18] <pr0pagandhi> :D
[19:18] <TiMiDo> elena, log out and log in if it does not work reboot
[19:19] <elena> ok
[19:19] <ubuntu> Hello friends
[19:19] <kiosk_dude10> TiMiDo, many thanks
[19:19] <elena> let me try
[19:19] <TiMiDo> Italian chick ;P
[19:19] <TiMiDo> <3 italy
[19:19] <pr0pagandhi> <3 chicks
[19:19] <oCean> please stop that
[19:20] <llutz> kiosk_dude10: "man lpadmin" should help
[19:20] <kiosk_dude10> llutz, I'll check it out. The printer GUI is great, but not for automation
[19:20] <llutz> kiosk_dude10: thats why lpadmin comes in
[19:21] <llutz> kiosk_dude10: some ideas how to use it http://einstein.drexel.edu/~wking/unfolding-disasters/posts/Adding_a_network_printer_with_lpadmin/
[19:21] <kiosk_dude10> llutz, much obliged
[19:21] <kiosk_dude10> This will save many headaches later when deploying multiple machines
[19:22] <kiosk_dude10> llutz, in fact the models I am adding are almost identical to that in the post!
[19:23] <llutz> kiosk_dude10: hehe, HP should always be easy
[19:23] <kiosk_dude10> llutz, hope that's true
[19:23] <llutz> except those paperweight-crap-toys
[19:23] <kiosk_dude10> llutz, two laserjets, i think 4200 and 4250
[19:24] <kiosk_dude10> llutz, always enjoy the ease of Linux printer installs compared to W*ndows
[19:24] <bittyx-laptop> i have problems deleting a certain directory on my external hdd. the path is something like /media/hdd/folder1/folder2/.../folder7/folder8 - when i'm in folder7 and type "rm folder8", i get "cannot remove `folder8': directory not empty", and when i go into folder8 and type "ls", i get "reading directory .: Input/output error" - is there some way to "force delete" this directory? i understand it may be corrupted or something, is there anything e
[19:24] <bittyx-laptop> lse i can do, save for reformatting the whole hdd?
[19:26] <lotuspsychje> bittyx-laptop: i had such error on nntpgrab for specific hd, i had to change dir
[19:27] <llutz> kiosk_dude10: according http://www.openprinting.org/printer/HP/HP-LaserJet_4200   hplip-drivers would be perfect.  "sudo hp-setup -i" might also work to install those printers
[19:27] <TiMiDo> now even better ;)
[19:27] <bittyx-laptop> lotuspsychje: what do you mean by "change dir"? i've tried renaming the folder in question, and that works, but i still can't delete it
[19:27] <JabberWalkie> question: I am looking to do something like this: I have a local machine with a microphone attached to it, and I want to stream the to a remote machine so that the remote machine will receive the stream just like another audio input, how can I do this?
[19:27] <elena> TiMiDo, rebooted but no luck
[19:28] <TiMiDo> elena, msg me
[19:28] <lotuspsychje> bittyx-laptop: try deleting from nautilus as root
[19:30] <tyler_d> How do you enable dynamic titles in terminal; I have modified(uncommented) a whack of different bash and vim profiles in an attempt to get this to work. it gets as far as renaming it locally, but as soon as I ssh somewhere it will not update. any help would be fantastic please
[19:30] <bittyx-laptop> lotuspsychje: no luck, same thing
[19:30] <tyler_d> driving me nuts
[19:30] <thegreyspot> Hi, I have to use kernel 2.6.39 because of my wifi card. Is there any way I can get PAE enabled on this kernel?
[19:31] <lotuspsychje> bittyx-laptop: what about sending to trash first, then deleting as root
[19:32] <w30> bittyx-laptop, I asume you used rm -R on the directory?
[19:32] <bittyx-laptop> w30: of course
[19:33] <mikere> Well, nothing seems to be fixing my nvidia driver problems, but perhaps it's time to upgrade from 10.04 anyway and see if that fixes things along the way =)
[19:34] <kikee> ____________________________,d888888888b,
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[19:34] <vsync_> mikere what seems to be the problem
[19:35] <tyler_d> lol
[19:35] <w30> bittyx-laptop, Is there any chance you have a samba share mounted on that directory? With smbmount or fusesmb?
[19:35] <mikere> vsync: can't load the nvidia driver - xorg.0.log has an error message as does kernel log
[19:36] <mikere> vsync_: I removed the nvidia driver and the headers and then reinstalled, reconfigured xorg to no avail.
[19:36] <bittyx-laptop> w30: nope - i think it's just a corrupted file or something
[19:36] <bittyx-laptop> w30: (though i can't seem to find a way to fix it)
[19:36] <vsync_> mikere you don't even need a xorg.conf
[19:36] <vsync_> but what's the exact error?
[19:37] <mikere> vsync_: one second
[19:37] <mikere> vsync_: (EE) Failed to load module "nvidia" (module-specific error, 0)
[19:38] <TiMiDo> mikere did you install the nvidia drivers?
[19:38] <TiMiDo> apparently not
[19:39] <mikere> vsync_: kern.log says: nvidia: probe of 0000:01:00.0 failed with error -1.  And yes, TiMiDo I did install hte nvidia drivers as well as remove then cleanly and reinstall.  But I did just upgrade my video card to 550 Ti from 9800 gtx+
[19:39] <TiMiDo> Mikelevel, sudo rmmod nvidia and load it again with sudo modprobe nvidia
[19:39] <vsync_> did you install them via apt or manually?
[19:40] <mikere> vsync_: apt
[19:40] <bittyx-laptop> can running "fsck /dev/sdb1" cause any problems? ie. cause me to lose data?
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[19:40] <TiMiDo> ty
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[19:41] <w30> bittyx-laptop, what are the permissions on the folder?
[19:41] <mikere> TiMiDo: modprobe can't find nvidia
[19:41] <vsync_> then you obviously don't have the drivers installed
[19:41] <sabine> Hi, is it possible to get the Ubuntu 11.04 (Windows 7 like) grid functionality to work under 10.04 (LTS)? So that a window gets scaled to half the screen size when it's moved to a screen edge
[19:41] <TiMiDo> then you do not have the drivers install Mikere
[19:41] <lotuspsychje> lol floodnight
[19:42] <mikere> TiMiDo and vsync_: System-Administration-Hardware DRivers thinks I do
[19:42] <TiMiDo> mikere build them with m-a
[19:42] <TiMiDo> ;)
[19:42] <mikere> TiMiDo and vsync_: although I've started a distribution upgrade right now so things could be getting a bit wierd
[19:42] <iv4nBR_> sorry! How do I make a permanent font? I have tried in / etc / rc.local (MyFont setfont-v) and did not work.
[19:42] <TiMiDo> mikere man m-a
[19:43] <TiMiDo> iv4nBR_, put them on .fonts
[19:43] <TiMiDo> in your home dir iv4nBR_
[19:43] <bittyx-laptop> beegle@beegle-HP-550:/media/Stasa/Velja/Sajtovi/FOTO MATIJA/stari sajt/srb/kontakt/demo$ ls -il
[19:43] <bittyx-laptop> total 4
[19:43] <bittyx-laptop> 245195 drwx------ 1 beegle beegle 4096 2011-11-28 21:49 img1
[19:43] <vsync_> you don't have to call m-a manually... the install script should auto build the modules
[19:43] <bittyx-laptop> w30: ^^^
[19:44] <TiMiDo> vsync_, if the module was build you can modprobe it with out a problem
[19:44] <TiMiDo> ;)
[19:44] <TiMiDo> that's why i told him that
[19:44] <mikere> vsync_: for now I'm gonna just let the distribution upgrade continue.
[19:45] <thegreyspot> anyone? :)
[19:45]  * TiMiDo lunch time 
[19:45] <TiMiDo> good bye ya'll
[19:45] <iv4nBR_> Timido => My console is text only. Ubuntu 10.10
[19:45] <mikere> vsync_ and TiMiDo: thanks for the advice - hopefully in an hour I won't need it but I'll write it down for now and use later.
[19:46] <lotuspsychje> bittyx-laptop: you could try pysdm to auto fstab your partitions
[19:46] <w30> bittyx-laptop, ok, I have had those corruptions too, but I am trying to make my "fix it" recall work, So far I don't recall, darn it!
[19:47] <abstrakt> what's the OT channel again?
[19:48] <ikonia> #ubuntu-offtopic
[19:48] <bittyx-laptop> lotuspsychje: i have no idea what either of those are, but according to a quick google, fstab seems to be related to the partitions table on linux - i don't think that's where the problem is - this is an external hdd (formatted as NTFS), and i can't delete this particular folder at all. i've also tried deleting it from windows, and no luck there either
[19:48] <bram_> hi, I have a problem installing texlive-base. I get the error: "texconfig: unknown option `paperconf' given as argument for `texconfig dvips'" any ideas?
[19:48] <bittyx-laptop> w30: if you do remember, please PM me (though i hope i'll fix it before you do)
[19:48] <bittyx-laptop> (before you remember*) (:
[19:49] <w30> bittyx-laptop, have you tried changing those permissions?
[19:49] <iv4nBR_> I tried to insert the font set command-v /etc/rc.local. So when you start losing the configuration.
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[19:49] <iv4nBR_> setfont -v in  /etc/rc.local lost configuration
[19:50] <bittyx-laptop> w30: i've tried "sudo chmod 777 img1" and nothing happens
[19:51] <lotuspsychje> bittyx-laptop: you cant move the folder to trash neither?
[19:51] <bittyx-laptop> lotuspsychje: via nautilus you mean? as in, right click->move to trash? nope, that doesn't work
[19:51] <don18quichotte> salut tout le monde
[19:53] <ilembitov> Hi, all. I have installed some local .deb packages using dpkg, now turns out that I don't have the required dependecies installed. How do I get them automatically? apt-get -f install didn't work
[19:54] <furbar> hey guys, is there a way to see recent terminal scripts , is it logged what terminal shows?
[19:54] <ikonia> furbar: history
[19:54] <TiMiDo> or dmesg
[19:54] <TiMiDo> ;)
[19:55] <furbar> ikona, yes is there a history?
[19:55] <ikonia> furbar: that is the command "history"
[19:55] <Humbedooh> ...
[19:55] <furbar> ikonia, thx
[19:55] <TiMiDo> .bash_history
[19:55] <TiMiDo> ;)
[19:56] <w30> bittyx-laptop, try sudo -i to get a root terminal the cd to it's parent directory the try again. sudo won't override ownership of files
[19:56] <asdas> .
[19:56] <furbar> its not a complete history, is it, ikonia, timido?
[19:56] <ikonia> furbar: no
[19:57] <TiMiDo> Furai, or man w
[19:57] <furbar> how far does it trace back, ikonia?
[19:57] <TiMiDo> furbar, look at this man w
[19:57] <TiMiDo> you'll see it right there
[19:57] <ikonia> furbar: depends on your session
[19:57] <ikonia> TiMiDo: w doesn't show a shell history
[19:58] <llutz> furbar: echo $HISTSIZE    if empty, its 500 commands
[19:58] <TiMiDo> no but it shoes the username that is log in to the account
[19:58] <ikonia> TiMiDo: that's not what he asked for
[19:58] <ikonia> TiMiDo: the same way he didn't ask for dmges
[19:58] <ikonia> TiMiDo: he's asking for shell history
[19:58] <furbar> i think ill need it one week back
[19:58] <TiMiDo> oh lol my bad
[19:59] <siddhion> hello, My laptop is a dual boot: Vista and Ubuntu 10.04. Recently on Ubuntu I've been getting a pop-up message on start up that says the file system root has only 250MB of space left. What I did was run Live GParted  off USB and shrunk my Vista partition by 25gb. Then I tried shrinking /dev/sda5 which is my file system root but I could not. How come?
[19:59] <iv4nBR_> Timido -> My console is text only. During the boot configuration loses "setfont"  -> /etc/rc.local
[20:00] <furbar> but its not only this current session is it, timodo, ikonia?
[20:00] <furbar> but its not only this current session is it, tiMIDO, ikonia?
[20:00] <TiMiDo> iv4nBR_, refer to this please https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kbd/+bug/860710
[20:00] <lotuspsychje> bittyx-laptop: try terminal: sudo nautilus and try to remove file from there
[20:00] <ikonia> furbar: 500 commands
[20:00] <ikonia> as you've been told
[20:01] <TiMiDo> furbar, what are your account privileges?
[20:01] <ikonia> TiMiDo: what does that matter ?
[20:01] <furbar> thx, ikonia, i think im gonna find the ones i need
[20:01] <bittyx-laptop> w30: doesn't help
[20:01] <TiMiDo> ikonia, so he reads the bug ;)
[20:01] <bittyx-laptop> lotuspsychje: i've already tried that. it doesn't work either
[20:01] <ikonia> TiMiDo: what bug ?
[20:01] <furbar> yeah does it timido, am i sppsd. to sudo hisotry?
[20:01] <ikonia> TiMiDo: there is no shell history bug
[20:02] <lotuspsychje> bittyx-laptop: seems like hardass lol
[20:02] <TiMiDo> no it's an kbd bug
[20:02] <ikonia> TiMiDo: furbar is not talking about kbd
[20:02] <TiMiDo> TiMiDo> iv4nBR_, refer to this please https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kbd/+bug/860710
[20:03] <siddhion> I also tried shrinking my /dev/sda6 partition by 4gb thinking maybe that would allow me to expand the /dev/sda5 partition but no luck. So is my /dev/sda5 (file system root) partition fixed forever at 10gb?
[20:03] <lotuspsychje> bittyx-laptop: what created this specific folder?
[20:03] <TiMiDo> don18quichotte, ask in main please do not msg me
[20:04] <Star_Light> hello
[20:04] <bittyx-laptop> lotuspsychje: a friend who i lent my hdd to; he copied some files to the hdd in order to move them to another pc; he had no problems copying them, afaik
[20:04] <furbar> anyway thx for your helpful helping help, ikonia, TiMiDo,. Have a pleasant Xmas and a best nü year.
[20:04] <Star_Light> I have problem with Drupal CMS software installation could you help me?
[20:04] <TiMiDo> furbar same to you ;)
[20:05] <Star_Light> Is there some good tutorial in order to install that on my Ubuntu system?
[20:05] <Odaym> which applications get a directory in /var/log?
[20:05] <Star_Light> I have installed apache2 ,php5 and MySQL
[20:05] <bittyx-laptop> lotuspsychje: it may be worth mentioning that this folder where he placed all his files had around 100 thousand files, with very deep directories, with a total of ~5GB of data (ie. a LOT of tiny files), so it's probably windows that caused the corruption when copying them
[20:05] <Odaym> whoever requests them in the code?
[20:05] <ikonia> Star_Light: the tutorial / instructions on the drupal site are pretty good
[20:06] <Star_Light> hm
[20:06] <ikonia> Odaym: any that is built to log in /var/log
[20:06] <lotuspsychje> bittyx-laptop: if you did not tryed pysdm i would reccomend, it auto mounts all your partitions, maybe more luck to remove the file from the new arrangement
[20:06] <Odaym> logical
[20:06] <Odaym> ok
[20:06] <ozzloy> is there something for importing the videos off my phone?  shotwell only grabs the photos
[20:06] <TiMiDo> Star_Light, or https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Drupal
[20:06] <ozzloy> i'd like something that does the same thing, but with all the videos too
[20:06] <siddhion> I always thought that if there was a chunk of unallocated space on one's hard drive they would easily be able to expand any of their partitions.
[20:07] <ozzloy> placing them in folders like ~/Picutres/YYYY/MM/DD/
[20:07] <bittyx-laptop> lotuspsychje: i'm not an advanced linux user by any shot, but i know enough that i can assume that your suggestion won't help me here
[20:07] <Odaym> they all abide to Syslog configuration or..policy, ikonia ? meaning that they all use the Critical tag for critical logs, and all use the Warning tag for warning logs and so on?
[20:07] <ikonia> Odaym: only the syslog logs to the syslog
[20:08] <Odaym> ah, so of course it's going to categorize according to what it ..does
[20:08] <ikonia> Odaym: other applications log to their own log files with their own design
[20:08] <ikonia> Odaym: what is "it" ?
[20:08] <Odaym> syslog
[20:08] <ikonia> Odaym: it's nothing to do with sysl;og
[20:08] <ikonia> Odaym: only the syslog logs to the syslog
[20:08] <ikonia> Odaym: other application logging is nothing to do with syslog
[20:08] <Odaym> I see
[20:08] <lotuspsychje> bittyx-laptop: maybe moving all other files to another hd and reformat?
[20:08] <Odaym> so they don't all abide by what is here, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Syslog
[20:09] <Odaym> because it has nothing to do with syslog
[20:09] <ikonia> Odaym: it's nothing to do with syslog
[20:09] <LjL> ikonia: uh, as far as i knew daemons can and do log to syslog
[20:09] <bittyx-laptop> lotuspsychje: that's my last-resort-solution - i'd prefer not to do that, if possible
[20:09] <ikonia> LjL: anything "can" syslog, just do "logger" for example,
[20:09] <ikonia> but the syslog is the only thing that writes to the syslog, the applications would write through the syslog
[20:10] <ikonia> and applications log to their own place in /var/log - not the syslog
[20:10] <Star_Light> can I remove drupal and install a new?
[20:10] <ikonia> Star_Light: yes
[20:10] <Star_Light> ok
[20:10] <Star_Light> on /var/www ?
[20:10] <ikonia> Star_Light: where ever you put it
[20:11] <Star_Light> ok... how can I get advanced priviledges for /var/www directory? When I am using GNOME and not terminal?
[20:11] <ikonia> Star_Light: gksudo nautlius
[20:11] <Star_Light> root prililedges I mean
[20:11] <ikonia> nautilus
[20:12] <Star_Light> in the search box?
[20:12] <lotuspsychje> bittyx-laptop: what was that input/output error again?
[20:12] <ikonia> Star_Light: from the application launcher/command prompt
[20:12] <ozzloy> oh, apparently shotwell is supposed to have 3gp support.  how do i make shotwell import the videos?
[20:13] <bittyx-laptop> lotuspsychje: ls: reading directory .: Input/output error
[20:13] <bittyx-laptop> lotuspsychje: :D
[20:13] <Star_Light> ikonia thank you veryyyy much
[20:15] <lotuspsychje> someone knows a solution to remove  a dir with input/output error?
[20:16] <swilkens> lotuspsychje: check the hard drive for errors, i/o errors indicate that the sector couldn't be written / read
[20:16] <tyler_d> lotuspsychje: what do you mean with input/output errors?
[20:16] <Star_Light> ikonia and if I push ctrl + C I will go from this situation? As you told me before
[20:16] <tyler_d> lotuspsychje: rm -r directory should do it
[20:16] <Star_Light> ctrl+c on terminal I mean.
[20:16] <ikonia> Star_Light: what situation ?
[20:16] <serg1492> hiall
[20:16] <Star_Light> gksudo nautilus
[20:16] <ikonia> Star_Light: or you could just close it like a normal person
[20:17] <tyler_d> ikonia: lol
[20:17] <Star_Light> lol ok
[20:17] <Tech-1> lol
[20:17] <serg1492> hey guys
[20:17] <serg1492> why ubuntu lags?
[20:18] <sadra> hi, i can not low Brightness Ubuntu 11.04
[20:18] <tyler_d> serg1492: you need to be way more specific if you are asking a question
[20:18] <LjL> serg1492: that seems too specific, try asking a more generic question
[20:19] <Memnoch> lol
[20:19] <tyler_d> umm
[20:19] <tyler_d> maybe the other way LjL
[20:19] <Star_Light> well it's ok
[20:19] <lotuspsychje> tyler_d: rm -r doesnt work
[20:19] <Star_Light> I decompressed drupal into /var/www
[20:19] <Star_Light> and it works
[20:19] <tyler_d> lotuspsychje: more detaills pleasse?
[20:19] <serg1492> I seen that slackware codecs work good on my machine, but codecs from reposit. is lags
[20:19] <serg1492> .mkv files
[20:19] <LjL> lotuspsychje, in my experience, I/O error often means a faulty drive. have you checked smartmontools?
[20:19] <SunTsu> lotuspsychje: try running badblocks on that filesystem
[20:20] <Star_Light> LjL,  hello my friend -.-
[20:20] <bittyx-laptop> guys, lotuspsychje is asking for me (since i haven't gotten any replies)
[20:20] <sadra> hi, i can not low Brightness Ubuntu 11.04
[20:20] <LjL> Star_Light: hi
[20:20] <Star_Light> ikonia is it bad from safety perspective to have my website into /var/www ah?
[20:20] <bittyx-laptop> i've tried a bunch of stuff, none working - it's an external hdd and i assume that the folder in question is corrupted
[20:20] <SunTsu> bittyx-laptop: then feel asked yourself now ;)
[20:20] <Star_Light> safety I mean security
[20:20] <chuck_> I'm trying to install GNOME Desktop Enviroment from Software Center, but I get the error: gnome: Depends: gnome-core (= 1:3.0+1ubuntu1) but 1:3.0+1ubuntu1 is to be installed.
[20:20] <Paul_E> Hi all--I'd like to turn off all messages to console on startup/shutdown for an ubuntu based kiosk. How can I do this?
[20:20] <ikonia> Star_Light: why would it be bad ?
[20:20] <chuck_> How can I fix it?
[20:20] <tyler_d> sadra: what do you mean? from where? what hardware? from a button, or from the gui? when it goes to sleep?
[20:20] <LjL> bittyx-laptop: well have you run smartmontools on it? to see if it's faulty?
[20:21] <LjL> bittyx-laptop: although, external... not sure SMART will work on that :\
[20:21] <Star_Light> ikonia because /var/www it is a system directory not home directory
[20:21] <Star_Light> ;)
[20:21] <bittyx-laptop> the hdd is formatted as ntfs, and i was just asking which linux tools i can use to try and fix it
[20:21] <ikonia> Star_Light: apache is a system process
[20:21] <serg1492> chuck
[20:21] <LjL> bittyx-laptop: none. don't try fixing NTFS from within Linux.
[20:21] <szal> !ntfs | bittyx-laptop
[20:21] <chuck_> serg1492: Yes?
[20:21] <serg1492> f*ck this go icewm
[20:21] <ikonia> LjL: thank god for your  sanityu
[20:21] <bittyx-laptop> szal: i can see the hdd, i just can't delete a particular folder
[20:21] <tyler_d> !language | serg1492
[20:22] <SunTsu> bittyx-laptop: not the best idea to fix ntfs from linux
[20:22] <ikonia> LjL: sanity
[20:22] <ikonia> LjL: you are the only other person I've seen not saying "use ntfsfix"
[20:22] <chuck_> serg1492: icewm?
[20:22] <szal> bittyx-laptop: do you have write access?
[20:22] <LjL> ikonia: heh
[20:22] <Star_Light> ikonia I say that because some tutorials on internet they write that you should change your directory in order to put into the drupal programm.... for security purposes
[20:22] <ikonia> Star_Light: you can put it where you want, it's fine
[20:23] <SunTsu> bittyx-laptop: there are ways, but normally it's best to fix a fswith the os it's native to
[20:23] <bittyx-laptop> LjL: thanks for the honest advice; i've connected it to a windows system now and scanned it, and it seems to be fixed
[20:23] <Star_Light> ikonia ok.
[20:23] <sadra> tyler_d: i have laptop acer aspire 5349 , VGA intel , ubuntu 11.04 gnome , i can not low or high Brightness monitor
[20:23] <Star_Light> I hope :p
[20:23] <chuck_> I'm trying to install GNOME Desktop Enviroment from Software Center, but I get the error: gnome: Depends: gnome-core (= 1:3.0+1ubuntu1) but 1:3.0+1ubuntu1 is to be installed.
[20:23] <tyler_d> sadra: from where?
[20:23] <bittyx-laptop> i can now finally delete the folder in question, phew
[20:24] <chuck_> Can anyone help me?
[20:24] <SunTsu> chuck_: not without knowing your problem
[20:24] <tyler_d> chuck_: if I knew the question I might
[20:24] <blackbox> Is anybody familar with the difference between rest and soap aren't they just doing the same thing using rpc over port 80 with xml ? What is the difference
[20:24] <bittyx-laptop> he wrote the question like 5 lines ago :D
[20:24] <chuck_> suTsu, tyler_d: I'm trying to install GNOME Desktop Enviroment from Software Center, but I get the error: gnome: Depends: gnome-core (= 1:3.0+1ubuntu1) but 1:3.0+1ubuntu1 is to be installed.
[20:25] <TiMiDo> blackbox, #xml
[20:25] <sadra> tyler_d: from iran
[20:25] <lotuspsychje> nite nite to all
[20:25] <blackbox> what ?
[20:25] <tyler_d> chuck_: sorry about that chuck, appears that a dependancy is broken. the real question is why are you installing gnome-desktop? did you have something else on here like kubuntu?
[20:25] <SunTsu> chuck_: looks strange, tried it again after updating your package info?
[20:25] <TiMiDo> refer it to #xml for xml questions this is #ubuntu
[20:25] <blackbox> O you want me to join #xml
[20:26] <tyler_d> sadra: no I meant, are you doing it from the panel or trying to use a button on the laptop?
[20:26] <TiMiDo> or google your issue
[20:26] <chuck_> tyler_d: No, I'm running Ubuntu, why?
[20:27] <sadra> tyler_d:  Fn+ left or right key
[20:27] <chuck_> sunTsu: How to update my package info?
[20:27] <TiMiDo> chuck_, sudo apt-get update
[20:27] <tyler_d> chuck_: so why are you trying to install a gnome-desktop env if you are already running gnome?
[20:27] <SunTsu> chuck_: there should be a button in softwarecenter or what TiMiDo just wrote
[20:27] <redf1sh> Hi, I'm having an issue with my mouse cursor constantly flickering or disappearing, happens both in kde and unity. Anyone run into this?
[20:28] <tyler_d> sadra: does it work from the panel when you adjust it? or alternately when you unplug it?
[20:28] <chuck_> tyler_d: I want the beautiful black panel with nice boubles for popups
[20:28] <tyler_d> chuck_: what version of ubuntu are you currently running?
[20:29] <redf1sh> I've tried bumping the kernel version up to 3.2-rc6 to no avail, not sure where else to poke.
[20:29] <chuck_> tyler_d: 11.10
[20:29] <TiMiDo> Nice testing
[20:29] <chuck_> SunTsu: Didn't work anyways
[20:29] <TiMiDo> chuck_, 11.10 is buggy
[20:29] <tyler_d> chuck_: so there is a diff reason that you don't have unity 3d, and I can almost certainly say its not that package.... I would say its possibly your video drivers in use
[20:30] <tyler_d> chuck_: how did you reach the conclusion to try and install that package?
[20:30] <chuck_> tyler_d: http://www.gnome.org/getting-gnome/
[20:31] <tyler_d> chuck_: did your logs tell you something that directed you there or was it kind of a leap of faith?
[20:32] <chuck_> tyler_d: Nah, I was just surfing around, looking for a way to get my desktop in style...
[20:32] <ojii> is the shell stdout logged somewhere?
[20:32] <chuck_> tyler_d: How do I get my desktop more like this: http://www.gnome.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/media.png than?
[20:32] <sadra> tyler_d:    I push the buttons that are not high or low light or less light, but the notification area monitor is shown
[20:32] <tyler_d> chuck_: then I would most certainly recommend that you read more on unity 3d and troubleshoot that.
[20:32] <TiMiDo> it depends on the stdout your asking about you have stdout for programs other daemons and such,
[20:33] <chuck_> tyler_d: What is unity 3d..?
[20:33] <sadra> tyler_d: The light is low and does not monitor the maximum
[20:34] <sadra> tyler_d: The monitor light is the highest and low-light monitor is not .
[20:34] <ojii> TiMiDo, in this case, i did `pip freeze` earlier and want to see it again so i can shed some light on a bug i found in ubuntuone-couch
[20:34] <ojii> TiMiDo, an i can't reproduce it since i unfortunately already changed it
[20:36] <iv4nBR_> Timido,  Do you have any idea how to save the configuration (setfont)?
[20:36] <jamq> Hello, how can i set a chat channel sync with a webpage?
[20:36] <TiMiDo> ojii, man stdin
[20:37] <jamq> Hello, how can i set a chat channel sync with a webpage? IRC on my Webpage
[20:37] <ojii> TiMiDo, i want the *output* of that command
[20:37] <TiMiDo> read
[20:37] <ojii> i already closed the shell though
[20:37] <TiMiDo> scroll down
[20:37] <oCean> jamq: how is that #ubuntu related?
[20:37] <auvajs> anyone could help me with this: http://pastebin.com/AZRXVu0X ? update-manager crashes :/
[20:38] <iv4nBR_> At the command prompt "setfont" operate normally.
[20:39] <jamq> oCean, i use ubuntu. anyways thanks.
[20:39] <TiMiDo> auvajs, install pygtk and you are good
[20:39] <jamq> lme try xhcat m wrong
[20:39] <TiMiDo> you need that module
[20:39] <auvajs> TiMiDo: what's the package? E: Couldn't find package pygtk
[20:40] <TiMiDo> auvajs, apt-cache search pygtk and choose ;)
[20:40] <rjaguar3_> Hello, I'm having an issue with Unity2D: my screen is frozen, except for the launcher, but everything is still working (so I can interact with the programs even though I can't see them).  Is there any way to fix this without having to restart the X server, and are there any commands I should run to help debug this issue?
[20:40] <sadra> tyler_d: ?
[20:42] <lyrae> when mounting a ntfs drive in fstab, do i have to do with it  ntfs-3g ?
[20:43] <TiMiDo> lyrae, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[20:43] <faz_> any body can help with screen resolution?????
[20:43] <lyrae> TiMiDo, vlw
[20:43] <tyler_d> sadra: sorry yes I'm here
[20:44] <faz_> any body can help with screen resolution?????
[20:44] <tyler_d> sadra: have you searched the software center for your brand of laptop, I know that there are a few packages specific to your laptop
[20:44] <TiMiDo> lyrae, so?
[20:44] <lyrae> TiMiDo, trying it right now. one moment
[20:44] <TiMiDo> oh ok ;)
[20:44] <TiMiDo> Virginia Lawyers Weekly?
[20:45] <faz_> any body can help with screen resolution?????
[20:45] <TiMiDo> faz_, be more specific
[20:46] <faz_> i want increase my ubuntu resolution upto 1240x1024 but not available in the menu????????
[20:46] <amok_> is there a problem with the firefox-java plugin in 10.04 after the latest updates ? original sun doesnt work...icetea plugin works, do anyone have the same problem or is it just me
[20:46] <faz_> i want increase my ubuntu resolution upto 1240x1024 but not available in the menu????????
[20:46] <TiMiDo> faz_, video card specs?
[20:46] <faz_> how to check
[20:47] <faz_> titmdo
[20:47] <TiMiDo> stop repeating your self faz_
[20:47] <TiMiDo> once is enough
[20:47] <Bao> during an install of cacti i was disconnected from the server and had to kill the install process etc. did remove on cacti and install again but it wont prompt me with the gui to setup db etc, how can i get it?
[20:47] <TiMiDo> !paste > faz_
[20:47] <TiMiDo> faz_, paste this output lspci
[20:48] <haxe8ed> Anyone ever had issues with mdraid 5 volume reassembling after restart?
[20:49] <Wolfsherz> hello, i have got a serious problem after fiddling with ssh-keys on my server. i can not connect anymore with the error: ssh_exchange_identification: Connection closed by remote host
[20:49] <Wolfsherz> i already booted the server in rescue mode to delete the authorized_keys in my home-directory. i also removed the private and public key on my machine at home.
[20:50] <faz_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/779092/
[20:50] <faz_> this iss.....
[20:50] <haxe8ed> anyone correct me if I am wrong but I believe you can reset your ssh server with dpkg-reconfigure
[20:51] <TiMiDo> no you can re configured it that's about it haxe8ed
[20:52] <newubuntuuser> System-Administration-Hardware drivers won't offer me a proprietary nvidia driver to be installed like https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia says, what should I do?
[20:53] <jutnux> newubuntuuser: Try restarting your computer and then searching.
[20:53] <faz_> any body can help with screen resolution?????
[20:53] <jutnux> !ask | faz_
[20:53] <jutnux> But yes faz_, I can. Can you tell me what your graphics card is, what version of Ubuntu you are running and what the problem is.
[20:54] <newubuntuuser> jutnux, did that after running system update, no luck. It's a new box, 32 bit ubuntu 10.04 and the video card is geforce gt 430
[20:54] <faz_> jutnux.... chat privately
[20:54] <TiMiDo> newubuntuuser, read this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/CommandLine
[20:54] <jutnux> faz_: Please write it here.
[20:55] <phong_> please
[20:55] <newubuntuuser> TiMiDo, do you want to say I might need to add a third party repo for proprietary driver to become available?
[20:55] <faz_> jutnux.... i cannot increase my resolution over 800x600
[20:56] <TiMiDo> yes newubuntuuser read on
[20:56] <jutnux> faz_: What graphics card do you have?
[20:56] <faz_> rage 128 pro
[20:56] <faz_> i think
[20:57] <jutnux> faz_: Can you type this command into terminal: lspci | grep 'VGA'
[20:57] <jutnux> And don't message me, thanks.
[20:57] <faz_> why not pm's
[20:57] <faz_> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Rage 128 Pro Ultra TF
[20:57] <faz_> the result
[20:57] <MultiRoMau> ciao
[20:57] <faz_> jutnuxxxxxx
[20:57] <MultiRoMau> hello
[20:57] <faz_> i've typed it
[20:58] <MultiRoMau> .
[20:58] <MultiRoMau> .
[20:58] <MultiRoMau> .
[20:58] <FloodBot1> MultiRoMau: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:58] <jutnux> faz_ Are you using an open source driver?
[20:58] <faz_> what does that mean
[20:58] <Dailluminati> some one speak spanish
[20:58] <Dailluminati> ?
[20:58] <TiMiDo> Dailluminati, yes refer it to #ubuntu-es
[20:58] <SunTsu> !es | Dailluminati
[20:58] <Dailluminati> thanks :D
[20:58] <SunTsu> the bot does ;)
[20:59] <faz_> jutnux what does that mean open source driver
[20:59] <jutnux> faz_: Never mind. Please look here: http://askubuntu.com/questions/1571/how-to-change-the-resolution-of-an-ati-rage-mobility-128-above-800x600 as there are lots of solutions for whatever your problem is.
[20:59] <faz_> i've tried all
[20:59] <faz_> tell me the solution otherwise i'm gonna delete ubuntu
[20:59] <TiMiDo> faz_, if you read you'll know
[20:59] <faz_> it's not good with that big icons
[21:00] <jutnux> faz_: I'm sure you haven't tried them all.
[21:00] <jutnux> !nounity | faz_
[21:01] <faz_> ubottu..... wht u r trying to say
[21:01] <newubuntuuser> TiMiDo, universe and multiverse repos seem to be enabled by default in vanilla /etc/apt/sources.list, I have no idea what to add to that file. Searching for "repo" on wiki page about proprietary nvidia driver returns no matches
[21:02] <TiMiDo> newubuntuuser, paste your /etc/apt/sources.list to paste.ubuntu.com
[21:03] <andres__> hello
[21:04] <odder> hello folks, I keep getting message "/usr/lib/cups/filter/pdftoraster failed" following an update from today; can
[21:04] <newubuntuuser> TiMiDo, http://paste.ubuntu.com/779110/
[21:04] <faz_> any body can increase my screen resolution above available ones???????
[21:04] <odder> can't print anything from evince nor acroread, any ideas how to fix that? downgrading cups and ghostscript didn't help :-(
[21:04] <TiMiDo> newubuntuuser, lol remove line 1 to 3
[21:05] <TiMiDo> and then apt-get update
[21:05] <rumpe1> faz_, xrandr can do this. There are even some guis for that.
[21:05] <faz_> how to do it
[21:05] <faz_> i've tried xrandr!
[21:05] <faz_> nothing worked
[21:05] <newubuntuuser> TiMiDo, I don't understand, but line 1-3 are commented
[21:05] <jutnux> faz_: try it again
[21:05] <TiMiDo> right remove them
[21:05] <newubuntuuser> did I misread anything?
[21:05] <faz_> what jutnux
[21:05] <DrPenguin> xrandr would indeed work unless Xinerama is enabled in your server
[21:06] <rumpe1> faz_, don't give up
[21:06] <jutnux> faz_: Don't give up and keep trying different things. Can you paste your /etc/X11/xorg.conf to paste.ubuntu.com please.
[21:06] <TiMiDo> newubuntuuser, is your ubuntu cdrom is inside your laptop or computer?
[21:06] <faz_> there's no xorg.conf in X11 forlder
[21:07] <newubuntuuser> TiMiDo, this is a new computer, they put an ubuntu into it so it's not empty. computer has no cd drive at all
[21:07] <TiMiDo> then remove those 3 lines
[21:07] <andres__> Does anyone here know how to set up OB IDE? I'm trying the one from OB but can't do it right :(
[21:07] <jutnux> faz_: sudo Xorg -configure
[21:07] <newubuntuuser> let me do it (though I still don't understand why, since those are comments)
[21:08] <faz_> fatal server erroorrr.....
[21:08] <TiMiDo> read the error
[21:08] <jutnux> faz_: What is the error?
[21:09] <faz_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/779117/
[21:09] <newubuntuuser> TiMiDo, did that, ran apt-get update, do I need a restart again before trying system-administration-hardware drivers?
[21:09] <TiMiDo> no newubuntuuser try it now
[21:10] <DrPenguin> faz_: you have to Kill X in order to configure it
[21:10] <faz_> how to kill it now?
[21:10] <Bao> im trying to setup cacti but had some problems during install, and now i get 404 when i try to access /cacti on the server
[21:10] <newubuntuuser> TiMiDo, still nothing, hardware drivers window is empty
[21:10] <TiMiDo> paste lspci for me to paste.ubuntu.com
[21:13] <newubuntuuser> TiMiDo, just lspci or you want it with those verbose arguments? video card is geforce gt 430 btw
[21:13] <jutnux> faz_: Paste /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d to pastebin
[21:14] <jutnux> newubuntuuser: Type "gksudo nvidia-settings" into the terminal and edit them from there.
[21:15] <TiMiDo> newubuntuuser, read this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1673715
[21:15] <newubuntuuser> jutnux, I don't have any nvidia-settings yet, what are you suggesting me to edit?
[21:15] <Benkinooby> hi, a scripting question: http://pastebin.com/vmTaFZpC that script tunes in a web radio in a new terminal using mplayer. i want the output of that in a file, so that i can see what interprets they play. the script creates the file, but it is empty. what do i do wrong?
[21:15] <d1g1ta11> How can you make Gnome menus with a black background and white text that where all menu options are readable when you open the menu?
[21:15] <TiMiDo> newubuntuuser, sudo apt-get install nvidia-xconfig and then sudo nvidia-xconfig and you are good
[21:16] <TiMiDo> it will automatically configure xorg for you newubuntuuser
[21:16] <jutnux> newubuntuuser: nvidia-settings is included in the proprietary drivers, which I presume you use.
[21:16] <newubuntuuser> jutnux, the proprietary drivers is what I am trying to install :)
[21:17] <newubuntuuser> TiMiDo, first one tells me it can't find such a package to install
[21:18] <TiMiDo> newubuntuuser, i just give you the answer
[21:18] <TiMiDo> can you read?
[21:19] <newubuntuuser> TiMiDo, by "first one" I meant I did "sudo apt-get install nvidia-xconfig" and it said couldn't find package nvidia-xconfig
[21:19] <newubuntuuser> apt-cache search nvidia shows a huge list though
[21:19] <iv4nBR_> What is the boot script that runs after the / etc / rc.local?
[21:19] <TiMiDo> nvidia-settings
[21:19] <TiMiDo> ;) there it is
[21:19] <newubuntuuser> ah, the package name?
[21:20] <TiMiDo> no my moms name
[21:21] <dmnOQ> Can anyone help me with this? http://askubuntu.com/questions/89840/why-i-cannot-browsing-the-internet-using-normal-connection-but-when-i-using-tor/89843#89843
[21:21] <NeedHelp> Anyone here know NetBeans ?
[21:22] <coolstar> Is anyone here who knows ASM/C/C++/Shockwave and wants to help get an open source shockwave player under linux?
[21:22] <TiMiDo> dmnOQ, read the ifconfig output to see your IP
[21:22] <TiMiDo> so you can configured your dns
[21:22] <adrian_berg> If you tinker with the kernel, you are then not able to upgrade to future ubuntu releases, correct?
[21:22] <adrian_berg> !kerne
[21:22] <adrian_berg> !kernel
[21:22] <newubuntuuser> TiMiDo, installed nvidia-settings
[21:22] <DrPenguin> coolstar: I know a *tiny* bit of asm, and some C/C++
[21:22] <coolstar> If anyone here wants to help out on an open source shockwave player, enter this into the chat: "/join #openswave"
[21:23] <TiMiDo> now run it newubuntuuser sudo nvidia-settings
[21:23] <newubuntuuser> now i can run this, it offers me to save a config
[21:23] <TiMiDo> and log out and you'll be running nvidia
[21:23] <TiMiDo> before login out make sure you did install nvidia driver try loading it sudo modprobe nvidia
[21:23] <dmnOQ> TiMiDo: Yes I can see, how to do it?
[21:24] <TiMiDo> dmnOQ, then can you configured it properly?
[21:24] <TiMiDo> ;)
[21:24] <newubuntuuser> TiMiDo, what filename to use when saving? /etc/X11/xorg.conf ?
[21:24] <TiMiDo> now login to your router, or whatever the case might be
[21:24] <TiMiDo> you just answer your self, newubuntuuser,
[21:25] <jutnux> newubuntuuser: Logout to set the settings.
[21:25] <newubuntuuser> TiMiDo, i did not install the nvidia driver, sudo modprobe nvidia fails
[21:26] <TiMiDo> but make sure you "LOAD the driver" with sudo modprobe nvidia
[21:26] <d1g1ta11> Help -- Gnome menu items are all white and only show the selected item when you hover... how can I make the menu background black always and the text white always?
[21:26] <jutnux> Have you changed the theme at all d1g1ta11?
[21:26] <TiMiDo> then refer to this then https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[21:26] <TiMiDo> refer to that newubuntuuser
[21:26] <TiMiDo> !next
[21:26] <TiMiDo> ;P
[21:27] <d1g1ta11> jutnux: yes, I changed it to high contrast (black bgrnd, white text).  need it b/c older hw runs too slow painting pixels I wait all day.
[21:29] <d1g1ta11> jutnux: I also tried customizing the Clearlooks them by changing the background to black text to white and got the same result.
[21:30] <newubuntuuser> TiMiDo, I am confused. that hardware drivers window is supposed to tell me what driver to install, yet it remains empty. probably i can do it manually using apt-get install, but i don't know the package name for the driver for my video card
[21:30] <TiMiDo> read the manual newubuntuuser
[21:30] <newubuntuuser> the manual has a screenshot with that window which in my case is empty :/
[21:32] <dmnOQ> TimiDo: Seriously, I doesn't know anything how to configure the dns?
[21:32] <dmnOQ> TimiDO: Can you show me the way or any link that provide the way?
[21:33] <TiMiDo> dmnOQ, read this please https://help.ubuntu.com/8.04/serverguide/C/dns-configuration.html
[21:36] <Bao> is there a way to remove all traces of a package? since if i remove cacti and install it again it says i am reconfiguring it instead of showing the gui i got at first install
[21:38] <TiMiDo> Bao, sudo apt-get --purge remove package*
[21:38] <jutnux> Bao: sudo apt-get remove --purge packagename
[21:38] <jutnux> Damnit, TiMiDo inb4ed me.
[21:40] <TiMiDo> always back to work
[21:40] <TiMiDo> see you all later
[21:40] <benbloom> im having trouble with a usb pci card I just put into the computer. can someone help? or point me in the right direction?
[21:40] <Bao> thanks
[21:41] <jutnux> benbloom: Can you pastebin the output of lsusb please
[21:41] <benbloom> jutnux: http://pastebin.com/tmskVCXX
[21:42] <benbloom> the new card SHOULD be usb 2.0
[21:42] <jutnux> Ok, it's not detected. Can you pastebin the output of lspci -v
[21:43] <TalonLite> Can anyone help me enable shell theme/shell extensions in Gnome Tweak Tool?
[21:43] <benbloom> do you want me to | grep USB with that jutnux?
[21:43] <w30> bittyx-laptop, check the permissions on your directory's parent directory. I the parent directory is set for no write you will have delete problems. See if you can make and delete a new directory along side the one you can'r delete.
[21:43] <jutnux> benbloom: Up to you, I'll read anything.
[21:44] <benbloom> http://pastebin.com/LkpX6khL
[21:45] <benbloom> jutnux: http://pastebin.com/gQXcyxXV is the entire output
[21:45] <jutnux> benbloom: I think your best bet would be ndiswrapper.
[21:46] <TalonLite> Guess not.
[21:46] <d1g1ta11> how do you made gnome terminal window black bkrnd with white text (reverse it)?
[21:46] <Cube``> hey guys, does vsftpd use the global system user list, or can i add users manually just to ftp?
[21:46] <xangua> d1g1ta11: edit-preferences
[21:46] <jutnux> d1g1ta11: Edit the profile preferences.
[21:47] <benbloom> jutnux: are there 2 nvidia usb controllers? can you tell which one is the one not working?
[21:47] <d1g1ta11> how?
[21:47] <TalonLite> d1g1ta11: Click Edit, Then Profile Preferences
[21:47] <TalonLite> then click Colors tab
[21:48] <brian_b> any banshee experts around?  I'm getting a "System.OverflowException" and crash while trying to rip (both on 2.2.1 from 11.10, and from 2.3.3 on the daily builds from banshee-team's PPA).  This seemed to start just after updating the UbuntuOne library recently, and may be related to 64 bit issues.  http://pastebin.com/dBBs4PKy
[21:48] <jutnux> benbloom: No, sorry.
[21:48] <szal> d1g1ta11: did you now install *buntu?
[21:48] <Gorilla_No_Baka> hello lads..
[21:48] <d1g1ta11> thanks!
[21:48] <TalonLite> np
[21:49] <benbloom> sorry jutnux to clarify is that yes there are two nvidia usb controllers and no you don't know which one isn't working?
[21:49] <d1g1ta11> *buntu failed me on that particular system, had to use something else.
[21:49] <jutnux> benbloom: No, I don't. Have you tried seeing if Ubuntu will find any proprietary drivers?
[21:50] <blackbox> is their a command in linux that allows you to modify/change your fsb , clock multiper , or cpu speed? I can display it with cat /proc/cpuinfo ,...etc
[21:50] <benbloom> how do i do that jutnux?
[21:51] <jutnux> Search in the Unity dash for "Additional Drivers" benbloom.
[21:51] <jutnux> blackbox: Do it in the BIOS.
[21:51] <Gorilla_No_Baka> gorilla's back with a new question.. : I am working on modifying the colors in the gtk-3.0 putting some colors that are easier  on my gorilla eyes and i got stuck with the font collor.!! i cannot change it.. any ideas?
[21:51] <html> W: GPG error: http://ppa.launchpad.net maverick Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 8C851674F96FD737
[21:51] <xangua> !gpgerr | html
[21:51] <blackbox> what happens if the bios or no versions of it supports it?
[21:52] <benbloom> k jutnux tried that earlier, but now that I think about it, I may have overlooked it thinking it was a graphics card driver
[21:52] <TalonLite> Anyone have an idea why Shell Extensions or Shell Theme doesn't work for Gnome Tweak Tool in 11.10
[21:52] <brian_b> wondering if I should just report this banshee bug to launchpad...
[21:53] <html> !gpgerr | html
[21:53] <blackbox> I just really would like to know if their is anything that allows me to do it on linux machines thru software? I know microsoft based computers  have some free downloads to do it thru software
[21:53] <benbloom> jutnux: all i get when i search for additional drivers is graphics cards. is there another way to check?
[21:54] <jutnux> benbloom: Then they don't support your PCI card. Download the drivers for Windows and use ndiswrapper.
[21:54] <Gorilla_No_Baka> gorilla's back with a new question.. : I am working on modifying the colors in the gtk-3.0 putting some colors that are easier  on my gorilla eyes and i got stuck with the font collor.!! i cannot change it.. any ideas?  here is a screenshot of what it look like now after a bit of wor on the .css  http://i42.tinypic.com/ml5kec.png
[21:54] <benbloom> k thx jutnux
[21:54] <auvajs> anyone could help me with this: http://pastebin.com/AZRXVu0X ? update-manager crashes :/
[21:56] <xangua> Gorilla_No_Baka: there is an adwaita dark, is it useful¿ http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/10/use-adwaita-dark-as-your-system-theme/
[21:56] <Gorilla_No_Baka> xangua:  unfortunately the adwaita.. has the same stupid gray font collor i am trying to change
[21:57] <Gorilla_No_Baka> i am an old gorrila and stupid gray fonds on white backgrounds just won't do it.. my eyes hrts
[21:57] <Gorilla_No_Baka> :)
[21:57] <Gorilla_No_Baka> gray fonts
[21:57] <Gorilla_No_Baka> :)
[21:58] <html> xangua,  what is this?
[21:58] <blackbox> I found this for overclocking gpu thru software http://www.econowics.com/linux/298/tutorial-overclocking-ubuntu-linux/ for linux but it does not support system cpu's
[21:59] <blackbox> Guess the only way is to do some asm and int command ,... ;) maybe I will do it later just wonder if it was out yet ;)
[22:00] <Gorilla_No_Baka> any gtk guys around here?
[22:01] <ikonia> Gorilla_No_Baka: try #gtk
[22:01] <Gorilla_No_Baka> cheers ikonia  .. man .. do you ever sleep ?:))
[22:01] <ikonia> no
[22:01] <szal> ikonia: power napping? ;)
[22:02] <Gorilla_No_Baka> i can see that .. because  the # gtk ... well there no suck a channel //
[22:02] <Gorilla_No_Baka> :)
[22:02] <Gorilla_No_Baka> enter on it an you will only find me there
[22:03] <kfizz> Trying to mount a share:  "sudo smbmount //server/share/ /local_data/" gives this error: mount error(115): Operation now in progress. I can access the share via nautlius and smbclient though. Any ideas?
[22:05] <basic`> anyone know off hand if you can specify a list of apt mirrors to try and apt is smart enough to try all of them before failing out?  (something like yum's mirrorlist)?
[22:05] <m_tadeu> hi...is there a web app that centralizes all my email accounts to run on ubuntu?
[22:05] <brian_b> anyone else on 64-bit and the proposed branch having issues with banshee?
[22:06]  * tommylommykins waves
[22:06] <urlin2u> basic`, you kind find the mirror with the fastest ping.
[22:06] <urlin2u> can find*
[22:06] <tommylommykins> What's the official way to remove old kernels from Disk?
[22:07] <rumpe1> tommylommykins, removing them using package managers
[22:07] <basic`> urlin2u, how does that work?
[22:07] <basic`> urlin2u, will it do that for each apt run?
[22:07] <rumpe1> tommylommykins, just like regular deinstallations
[22:07] <tommylommykins> rumpe1: There is no tool to automate the process? With package managers, I have to manually choose the kernels to remove....
[22:07] <urlin2u> basic`, look in software sources first page
[22:08] <rumpe1> tommylommykins, the questions is, what strategy has the greater advantage/risk.
[22:09] <tommylommykins> I dunno
[22:09] <basic`> urlin2u, not seeing this - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Ubuntu ?
[22:09] <tommylommykins> I'd rather have some official script do it for me..
[22:09] <tommylommykins> rather than forcing myself to go messing around with the Kernel, which I do not know much about
[22:09]  * tommylommykins does not feel qualified to perform this operation himself...
[22:09] <rumpe1> tommylommykins, grub2 puts them in sub-menus so they don't really bother. And they are not extremely huge in size.
[22:10] <urlin2u> basic`, what is your final goal here?
[22:10] <tommylommykins> rumpe1: IIRC, this is a feature of 11.10?
[22:10] <tommylommykins> hmm
[22:10] <tommylommykins> on that subject
[22:10] <basic`> urlin2u, say we have an infrastructure built on ec2
[22:10] <tommylommykins> is 11.10 still broken with FGLRX?
[22:10] <basic`> and we're maintaining multiple repos in different regions
[22:10] <basic`> if one of them fails (because it's ec2), we would like to fail to another in the list
[22:11] <urlin2u> basic`, all the repositories are synced
[22:11] <basic`> ?
[22:11] <w30> tommylommykins, I like to use Synaptic to remove them because it will update grub to not list kernels you have deleted
[22:11] <yekoms> whats the best way to monitor bandwidth useage?
[22:12] <basic`> end goal: we have 3 mirrors of the apt repository, and need to fail between them if one goes offline
[22:12] <yekoms> im trying iftop but i dont know if its what i want
[22:12] <urlin2u> basepi, all the ubuntu repo's are synced if you have a 3rd party then the ubuntu's aren't involved. I'm not sure I understand your nor can really help.
[22:12] <basepi> hehe, wrong guy.  =)
[22:12] <jutnux> yekoms: http://www.addictivetips.com/ubuntu-linux-tips/monitor-network-bandwidth-usage-in-ubuntu-linux-with-ntm/
[22:12] <yekoms> i want a terminal application.
[22:12] <tbruff13> hey can someone do me a favor
[22:13] <w30> tommylommykins, just look at the last numbers in your obsolete kernels and find the matching synaptic one
[22:13] <tommylommykins> w30: That's only half the story. What packages do I remove, what if I accidentally remove all kernels?
[22:13] <basepi> tbruff13: better off just asking, and seeing it people know the answer.
[22:13] <urlin2u> w30, synaptic doesn't update grub when you remove a kernel I believe
[22:13] <basepi> if*
[22:13] <tommylommykins> w30: That still doesn't specify the packages I need to nuke in any way
[22:13] <dmorrison42> How do I find the file or folder a soft link points to?
[22:13] <tbruff13> basepi: i cannot connect to the linux mint irc with mibbit and xchat
[22:14] <tbruff13> can someone try to connect
[22:14]  * tommylommykins doubts searching for the last two digits in synaptic will invariably lead to the correct packages to remove
[22:14] <propman> tbruff13:  it's down again
[22:14] <w30> urlin2u, mine does if I use Synaptic unless thinks have changed in the last couple of months
[22:14] <tbruff13> propman: what do you mean down
[22:14] <tbruff13> what can we do to bring it back up
[22:14] <tommylommykins> ...Does anyone know if ubuntu 11.10 is still broken with FGLRX?
[22:14] <rumpe1> dmorrison42, use "ls -l"  or "file"
[22:15] <tbruff13> tommylommykins: it is broken in mint still
[22:15] <propman> tbruff13:   off-line.    nothing it will come back up on it's own once they fix the problem
[22:15] <tbruff13> so i assume it is broke in ubuntu
[22:15] <auronandace> tommylommykins: are you sure that its ubuntu thats broken and not fglrx?
[22:15] <w30> tommylommykins, just put kernel in seardh and then look for packages with the matching kernel ending numbers
[22:15] <tommylommykins> D:
[22:15] <tbruff13> propman: why do they not use freenode
[22:15] <w30> search
[22:15] <tommylommykins> auronandace: I don't care. I will use 11.10 if it works on my machine :)
[22:15] <duli> How do I start memtest from boot time? Ubuntu seems to boot without giving me the chance to start memtest...
[22:15] <dmorrison42> rumpe1, thanks
[22:16] <urlin2u> duli, use a live cd
[22:16] <tommylommykins> tbruff13: Thanks :)
[22:16] <m_tadeu> is there a wab interface for evolution?
[22:16] <duli> urlin2u: I was trying to avoid that! I hoped there was a simpler way… tks
[22:16] <tbruff13> m_tadeu: no i do not think so
[22:16] <coolstar> Any C/C++ Devs here interested in helping out on an open source shockwave player?
[22:16] <tbruff13> that is the point of evolution
[22:17] <tommylommykins> hmm
[22:17] <kfizz> Trying to mount a share:  "sudo smbmount //server/share/ /local_data/" gives this error: mount error(115): Operation now in progress. I can access the share via nautlius and smbclient though. I've also tried "sudo mount -t smbfs //server/share /local_data" with the same result
[22:17] <Pici> !ot | coolstar
[22:17] <urlin2u> duli, a love cd is one of the best tools if you don't have one that is not good.
[22:17] <urlin2u> live* oops
[22:17] <tbruff13> coolstar: i would love to see this player
[22:17] <tbruff13> i cant program
[22:17] <tbruff13> but i will help in anyway i can
[22:17] <m_tadeu> well I have several accounts configured on evolution. but I need to access it remotely. is there  way to do that?
[22:17] <coolstar> tbruff13: You can enter in chat "/join #openswave"
[22:18] <tommylommykins> Does anyone know of a *trustworthy* script that will remove old Kernels? I really don't want to risk doing something wrong myself
[22:18] <w30> duli, have you tried holding down the space bar during the boot loader process?
[22:18] <ikonia> tommylommykins: you open the package manager, find the old kernels, hit remove
[22:18] <ikonia> tommylommykins: no need for a script
[22:18] <duli> urlin2u: not yet. doint igt now
[22:18] <tbruff13> m_tadeu: you can access you computer remotely like this http://teamviewer.com/en/index.aspx
[22:18] <xangua> tommylommykins: then just leave them, they will be remover when you upgrade to the next ubuntu release
[22:18] <auronandace> tommylommykins: it really is very easy to do it with synaptic (and most likely the most trustworthy way too)
[22:18] <urlin2u> duli, yopu have awubi install?
[22:18] <tbruff13> coolstar: /join #openswave
[22:19] <urlin2u> you*
[22:19] <tbruff13> crap
[22:19] <tbruff13> sorry
[22:19] <rockband> hi all...can anyone help me witha problem in my server... it seems the network dies when i exit ssh to server using putty and command exit
[22:19] <duli> urlin2u space did not help. About awubi, let me check.
[22:19] <ikonia> rockband: I don't that
[22:19] <tommylommykins> ikonia: I searched for "kernel". It returned results on the order of hundreds. It is not immediately obvious what I need to remove.
[22:19] <urlin2u> duli, wubi is installed from windows.
[22:19] <ikonia> tommylommykins: linux-image
[22:20] <tommylommykins> Do I need to remove linux-headers and linux-image packages for each old version?
[22:20] <tommylommykins> And absolutely nothing else?
[22:20] <TalonLite> Why can't I access Shell Theme drop down menu in Gnome Tweak Tool for 11.10?
[22:20] <ikonia> tommylommykins: just linux-image-$version
[22:20] <urlin2u> tommylommykins, you can use ubuntu tweak to remove kernels as well.
[22:20] <tommylommykins> so linux-headers must stay?
[22:20] <ikonia> tommylommykins: I'd leave them yes
[22:20] <duli> urlin2u: no no… Ubuntu is already installed on this netbook. It does not have a cd drive.
[22:20] <duli> Which is why I´m avoiding the livecd solution
[22:21] <tommylommykins> OK
[22:21] <w30> tommylommykins, leave the kernel packages alone that don't have your complete obsolete kernel on them
[22:21] <tommylommykins> duli: Memtest on a bootable USB stick?
[22:21] <duli> I think I´ll have to create a USB bootable
[22:21] <tommylommykins> w30: I did not understand your last line
[22:21] <urlin2u> duli, cool I assume installed means you booted a thumb drive and installed that way not from windows. So is your problem a full hard drive?
[22:21] <TalonLite> USB Bootable's work for my netbooks.
[22:21] <duli> I was kind of hoping ubuntu gave me the option to start memtest on boot time...
[22:21] <ikonia> duli: it does
[22:22] <tommylommykins> How do I know what has a "complete obsolete Kernel" and what has a "not-complete obsolete Kernel"?
[22:22] <xangua> tommylommykins: or just don't, why do you want to remove them¿
[22:22] <duli> ikonia: How do I get into it? Esc didn´t work at boot time
[22:22] <ikonia> duli: it's shift, not escape
[22:22] <tommylommykins> xangua: They clutter grub.
[22:22] <w30> tommylommykins, the kernel header packages and kernel packages to remove will have your complete obsolete kernel numbers in their name
[22:22] <duli> ikonia: oh, god, tks, let me try...
[22:23] <html> NO_PUBKEY 8C851674F96FD737
[22:23] <w30> tommylommykins, there is some packages that are general in name; leave them there.
[22:23] <xangua> tommylommykins: clutter¿ do they mix so hard that you don't know what kernel to start¿
[22:23] <urlin2u> duli, sorry about that I remove the memory test I forgot it was there in the grub menu.
[22:23] <auronandace> html: hope that wasn't important
[22:23] <xangua> !gpgerr | html
[22:24] <duli> ikonia: it works now, tks a lot
[22:24] <ikonia> duli: no problem
[22:24] <duli> urlin2u: no problem, thanks. Now I got it!
[22:24] <duli> :)
[22:24] <tommylommykins> xangua: I believe I am entitled to want to keep my boot-menu tidy. Practically, stacking lists of linux kernels push the windows entry further and further down in the mune.
[22:24] <tommylommykins> menu
[22:24] <w30> tommylommykins, then at next boot time your obsolete kernels will no longer be listed also
[22:25] <Spec> just remove the kernels you're not using? o.O
[22:25] <Ethek> hmm anyone know whats going on with this icon http://img37.imageshack.us/i/selection002y.png/ when I change Icon themes
[22:25] <urlin2u> tommylommykins, there is a app called ubuntu tweak that does a lot of things including easily removing old kernels in one fell swoop.
[22:25] <tommylommykins> ok
[22:25] <tommylommykins> That sounds like the way to go
[22:25] <tommylommykins> That way it's not my fault when my computer catches fire
[22:25] <html> auronandace,  i dont know ,  i need much  help
[22:26] <urlin2u> tommylommykins, it is a 3rd party there is a ppa, what release are you running?
[22:26] <w30> urlin2u, search in Synaptic for ubuntu tweak?
[22:26] <emhs> Hey folks. My dad's got an ubuntu server that's running 9.10.
[22:26] <tommylommykins> urlin2u: 11.04, 64 bit
[22:26] <Gorilla_No_Baka> here's an other shotscreen http://i43.tinypic.com/35l9par.png
[22:26] <auronandace> html: looks like xangua knew what you were talking about
[22:26] <emhs> I discovered this fact while trying to put openssh-server on it.
[22:27] <emhs> And I know the upgrade path from there can't be simple.
[22:27] <emhs> Any tips?
[22:27] <ikonia> !upgrade | emhs
[22:27] <ikonia> emhs: it's well documented
[22:27] <who_me> Gorilla_No_Baka: that is appaling
[22:27] <Gorilla_No_Baka> who_me: ??
[22:27] <xangua> !eol | emhs
[22:27] <auronandace> !eol | emhs
[22:27] <html> xangua,  i know , but you didnt ,, im working on it
[22:27] <urlin2u> tommylommykins, get the 0.5 version the beta is a bit not finished. http://ubuntu-tweak.com/
[22:28] <who_me> Gorilla_No_Baka: it looks bad, can barely make out the text
[22:28] <ikonia> don't use ubuntu-tweak
[22:28] <urlin2u> w30, the tweak has a ppa and can also just be installed look at above link.
[22:28] <tommylommykins> ikonia: Why?
[22:28] <Gorilla_No_Baka> ikonia: ubuntu tweak does not do that
[22:28] <Gorilla_No_Baka> can't do that
[22:28] <Gorilla_No_Baka>  i did it
[22:28] <ikonia> tommylommykins: because it's bad tool
[22:28] <Gorilla_No_Baka> and if you wanna make out the text clik ion the picture in order to see the full size :)
[22:29] <w30> urlin2u, ok, cool
[22:29] <tommylommykins> hmm
[22:29] <emhs> Danke
[22:29] <auronandace> !ppa | tommylommykins
[22:29] <tommylommykins> is there *any official documentation* the describes the process for removing old Kernels
[22:29] <ikonia> tommylommykins: what part is not clear
[22:29]  * tommylommykins feels like he is getting a lot of conflicting information here
[22:29] <ikonia> tommylommykins: open the package manager, find the kernel, click remove
[22:29] <ikonia> don't understand why that is a complex process
[22:29] <auronandace> tommylommykins: you've been told clearly what to do
[22:30] <urlin2u> tommylommykins, not a bad tool just some are purists.
[22:30] <ikonia> it is a bad tool
[22:30] <tommylommykins> auronandace: I agree, I think the method through synaptic has been explained
[22:30] <Gorilla_No_Baka> ubuntu tweak sucks balls.. nicely put
[22:30] <urlin2u> ikonia, can you identify why it is bad
[22:30] <ikonia> Gorilla_No_Baka: tone it down
[22:30] <Gorilla_No_Baka> all it does is to work on gsettings
[22:30] <auronandace> tommylommykins: then go for it
[22:31] <tommylommykins> In the interest of reliability, it would be nice to have some official webpage
[22:31] <ikonia> tommylommykins: why ?
[22:31] <DeltaEpsilon>  23:31:12 up 15:42,  1 user,  load average: 0.88, 0.62, 0.40
[22:31] <ikonia> urlin2u: yes, it's just scripted interaction, it's not solid in how it deals with this, and there is nothing it does that can't be done easy with official ubuntu tools
[22:31] <tommylommykins> such that the actions can be reviewed and confirmed to be correct
[22:31] <ikonia> tommylommykins: the kernel is a package, you remove what you don't want, there is no need for a website for that
[22:31] <tommylommykins> This cannot happen in IRC discussions
[22:31] <ikonia> tommylommykins: you want to remove apache, open the package manager, remove apache, you want to remove a kernel, open the package manager, remove the kernel
[22:32] <ikonia> tommylommykins: if you need a website explaining how to remove the kernel package, you shouldn't do it, you should allow ubuntu to manage your kernels
[22:32] <Gorilla_No_Baka> tommylommykins:  sudo apt-get install synaptic and remover each and every package that bothers you
[22:32] <tommylommykins> ikonia: I think it's reasonable that I do not trust myself in doing something that I have never done before.
[22:32] <urlin2u> ikonia, yes it is scripted, I use it on occasion, and sincve it has been out I have never had a problem, in this case where a person is learning how to remove kernels which can brick your setup it seems like a good tool to learn from rather then bricking your OS.
[22:32] <ikonia> tommylommykins: have you ever removed a package before ?
[22:33] <tommylommykins> ikonia: Sure, but never a kernel. I did not know how to map from the kernel-entry in grub that I wanted to remove to the package in synaptic
[22:34] <tommylommykins> For example, how am I supposed to know that the correct process is to leave the "headers" package?
[22:34] <tommylommykins> You cannot derive that from seeing the grub entry.
[22:34] <ikonia> tommylommykins: the kernel has a version, eg: 3.1.2-3 - the kernel packge has a version, eg: linux-image-3.1.2-3 not the hardest thing to map
[22:34] <ikonia> tommylommykins: you don't remove the headers
[22:34] <CarlFK> I need a tool to lay out rooms, like the room is 8'x12', the desk is 5'x2', chair goes here... any suggestions on what app will make that easy?
[22:34] <ThePendulum> Greetings
[22:34] <ikonia> CarlFK: there is a room design tool, someone mentioned this weeks ago, I don't know what it's called
[22:34] <tommylommykins> ikonia: How am I supposed to know that? I have learned that the correct process is to remove the kernel to remove the entry in grub...
[22:35] <ThePendulum> I just got a new mouse and it's scrollspeed is unusable fast in Ubuntu. Any way to fix this?
[22:35] <tommylommykins> but how do I know that the "headers" package is not the kernel?
[22:35] <arnotixe> Hi is there a way to "Install openssh-server and start it on next boot"?
[22:35] <ikonia> tommylommykins: the process is NOT to remove the entry in grub
[22:35] <ikonia> tommylommykins: forget the headers, they are nothing to do with your running kernel
[22:35] <CarlFK> ikonia: suggesions on what I should grep the logs for?
[22:35] <ikonia> alex__: it does it already
[22:35] <html> W: Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/shnatsel/zram/ubuntu/dists/maverick/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz  404  Not Found
[22:35] <tommylommykins> And how do I know that the "image" package is the correct package to remove
[22:35] <ikonia> CarlFK: thinking....
[22:35] <arnotixe> I thought maybe creating a script and put it into /etc/rc2.d/ but I wonder if there's a smarter method?
[22:35] <sskalnik> tommylommykins:  headers != kernel, two different things
[22:35] <tommylommykins> ikonia: Removing the entry in grub is my goal.
[22:35] <Spec> tommylommykins: the headers are the ..uhh, kernel headers.
[22:35] <Spec> tommylommykins: not the kernel.
[22:35] <ikonia> tommylommykins: I've just told you how to work it out
[22:35] <Spec> tommylommykins: you could always manually remove the entries from teh grub configuration file.
[22:36] <xangua> html: that ppa doesn't have packages for your ubuntu version
[22:36] <Spec> or just remove the kernels (-image-) you don't use.
[22:36] <ikonia> tommylommykins: kernel version = 1.1.1.1, package version = linux-image-1.1.1.1
[22:36] <alex__> ikonia what? :D
[22:36] <CarlFK> ikonia: swell  my logs are full of "entered the room." ;/
[22:36] <tommylommykins> ikonia: Sure, but it's a dangerous task, and there is no official walkthrough... To me, that is wrong :s
[22:36] <OerHeks> tommylommykins, synaptic will give an error, if you delete too many kernel packages :-)
[22:36] <Spec> tommylommykins: it's really not dangerous, just don't delete the kernel you're using.
[22:36] <sskalnik> tommylommykins:  You just need to remove the linus-image-blahblahblah package via Synaptic for the kernels you want to remove.
[22:36] <ikonia> tommylommykins: if you cannot work out that running kernel version = linux-image-$running-version after being told 3 times, you should not do this
[22:36] <tommylommykins> Spec: I'm a noob. What if I get it wrong and I delete all kernels?
[22:36] <sskalnik> tommylommykins:  It is as un-dangerous as it can be. Much better than trying to do it manually.
[22:36] <Spec> tommylommykins: don't do that.
[22:37] <tommylommykins> Spec: Sure, but generally you should defend against people accidentally doing stupid things?
[22:37] <ikonia> tommylommykins: do you know the kernel version you want to remove, yes/no
[22:37] <Spec> tommylommykins: that sounds like a windows mentality
[22:37] <sskalnik> tommylommykins:  Just don't remove the latest one or  whichever one you want to use.
[22:37] <Spec> I'd rather have FULL POWAAAA
[22:37] <Spec> tommylommykins: what if you wanted to Delete. All. The. Kernels? You should be able to, right?
[22:37] <tommylommykins> Spec: It's a common sense mentality. Especially with regard to things that are irreversible.
[22:38] <sskalnik> tommylommykins:  It can't eally get any more simple or foolproof. If you are messing with kernels, it is assumed you have a reason to do so, and thus have an idea of what you are doing.
[22:38] <Spec> tommylommykins: it's just bits on a disk, everything's reversible.
[22:38] <ikonia> tommylommykins: do you know the kernel version you want to remove, yes/no
[22:38] <sskalnik> tommylommykins:  it is quite reversible.
[22:38] <OerHeks> Spec, try to delete all, you can't .. synaptic will tell you :-D
[22:38] <tommylommykins> sskalnik: I have reason to because I want to make my boot menu clear. Otherwise I do not want to know anything about the Kernel
[22:39] <Spec> synaptic? lawl
[22:39] <ikonia> tommylommykins: do you know the kernel version you want to remove, yes/no
[22:39] <tommylommykins> ikonia: I do know, The process has been explained. That is no longer the issue under discussion
[22:39] <sskalnik> tommylommykins:  OK then. Just remove all the kernels aside from the one you are using.
[22:39] <ikonia> tommylommykins: then what are you complaining about ?
[22:39] <sskalnik> tommylommykins:  sounds like you're good then. ;)
[22:40] <tommylommykins> ikonia: The fact that there is no official method for removing old kernels, and the danger of getting it wrong
[22:40] <sskalnik> tommylommykins:  What you have been told *is* an official method.
[22:40] <arnotixe> tommylommykins, try Ctrl+Alt+T to open a terminal, then      uname -r    in the terminal. This is your running kernel.  Then compare that to    ls /boot/
[22:40] <ikonia> tommylommykins: there is an official method, you remove the packages you don't want
[22:40] <ady> hello there; i'm having a small problem with Ubuntu 11.10 and Gnome; it is ok to ask about it here ?
[22:40] <ikonia> ady: sure
[22:40] <xangua> tommylommykins: like I said First, then you upgrade to the next ubuntu release, they will be remover...is that official for you¿
[22:40] <ady> thanks
[22:41] <tommylommykins> sskalnik:  But surely I should not have to come on IRC to discover this?
[22:41] <ady> so, my problem is this - how do i make the interface 3d ? with gnome ? it is possible or i've understood something wrong ?
[22:41] <tommylommykins> Can you understand that I am suspicious when i see a post on "joe's-blog" about how to do this?
[22:41] <tommylommykins> Considering it's software essential to my operating system
[22:41] <Cube``> guys, i have a problem. i have added myself and a few other people to a group. i have taken a folder, done sudo chown cube:group folder/, then sudo chmod 770 folder/ -R, but still only the owner can access the folder via cd! what am i doing wrong?
[22:41] <sskalnik> tommylommykins:  This info is just a google away. It is also on the official forums. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1587462
[22:41] <Spec> tommylommykins: Now I'm not saying this is supported, or a good idea....
[22:41] <tommylommykins> I want an official method to perform this operation
[22:42] <Spec> for i in $(dpkg -l |grep -i linux-image-2|awk {'print $2'}); do if [ "linux-image-$(uname -r)" != "$i" ]; then echo Removing $i; echo apt-get remove $i; fi; done
[22:42] <Spec> but that'll get rid of all the kernels you're not currently using :D
[22:42] <ikonia> tommylommykins: if you are not confident removing a package, don't do it
[22:42] <Spec> (if you remove the "echo" in front of "apt-get"
[22:42] <ikonia> tommylommykins: you are not going to get a more official way than what you have been told in this channel
[22:42] <tommylommykins> Sure, that's why I want something official. I don't want to risk getting it wrong
[22:42] <Spec> tommylommykins: I think "official" response is: If you don't know much about kernels, don't touch it.
[22:42] <EvilResistance> ^ that
[22:42] <Spec> tommylommykins: perhaps you should file a bug/feature request to clean up old kernels ?
[22:42] <aeon-ltd> ady: its not gnome alone, you'll need something called compiz to do 3d effects or unity (though i think unity should be the default with effects on)
[22:42] <ikonia> tommylommykins: you've had your official reponse from this channel
[22:42] <Tech-1> ^]
[22:42] <arnotixe> tommylommykins, if you're unsure if you're actually running the latest kernel you've installed, you should reboot, and then do as Spec says above. It's a cool one-liner. But it would be safer if you knew what you're doing :D
[22:42] <tommylommykins> Spec: In that case, how am I supposed to unclutter the grub menu?
[22:42] <sskalnik> tommylommykins:  You have been told several times what the official method is, and that it will work. Not sure what you could ask for on top of that.
[22:43] <Spec> tommylommykins: you could run the one-liner-of-doom i gave you
[22:43] <Spec> tommylommykins: but, apologies in advance if it destroys your system :(
[22:43] <tommylommykins> Spec: What reason do I have to trust it?
[22:43] <sskalnik> tommylommykins:  Read the link I posted; it shows multiple methods from the official forums.
[22:43] <Spec> tommylommykins: 'cause i wrote it
[22:43] <ikonia> tommylommykins: don't trust it, but if you are going to ask for help and ignore it - stop asking
[22:43] <Spec> tommylommykins: I would do this: open synaptic, go down the list, and for every kernel whose version DOES NOT match "uname -r", as typed in a terminal, remove that package (linux-image-version/etc)
[22:44] <ady> aeon-ltd, i've installed Gnome from software center, i have Ubuntu 11.10, do i need to install this 'compiz' ?
[22:44] <Spec> tommylommykins: ie; the manual method of doing what my one-liner does
[22:44] <arnotixe> but tommylommykins has a point here - I once had a /boot/ _partition_ and it went full. My bad, I know, But after MANY updates the boot partition was full and updates stopped working. I had to figure out how to remove the correct packages manually...
[22:44] <tommylommykins> I have not ignored it, I guess atm, I'm stating my dissatisfaction at the method in which I have recieved it
[22:44] <EvilResistance> tommylommykins:  if you dont know what you're doing with kernels, dont mess with them, just let them autoinstall, and then reboot and it should use the latest.  Also, the link to how to do it that exists on ubuntuforums.org is an official site for support.
[22:44] <EvilResistance> tommylommykins:  i dont think the expression of dissatisfaction goes in here :/
[22:44] <Spec> tommylommykins: Totally understandable, and there SHOULD be a method for people such as you. I would recommend opening a ticket -- the fact is, there exist no current method.
[22:44] <xangua> ady: gnome is already on ubuntu, you mean gnome shell¿¿
[22:44] <ikonia> tommylommykins: dissatisfaction noted, but it won't change that that is the best method
[22:44] <sskalnik> tommylommykins:  This is not the complaint dept. You have been given what you asked for. What do you want us to *do* nect?
[22:44] <ThePendulum> Does anyone know how to change scroll speed in Ubuntu (11.04)?
[22:44] <Tech-1> he got his 15 mins, next.
[22:44] <sskalnik> s/nect/next
[22:45] <CarlFK> ikonia: i just found http://packages.ubuntu.com/oneiric/sweethome3d  was that it?
[22:45] <tommylommykins> sskalnik: Nothing. I guess it is time for me to shut up
[22:45] <ikonia> that sounds familier
[22:45] <ikonia> ahhhhh h
[22:45] <ikonia> CarlFK: I think it's a top down view thing
[22:45] <ady> Xaifas, exactly; Gnome-Shell (i've pasted the command fonded on Google and it was with some shell in it)
[22:45] <edbian> tommylommykins, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1587462
[22:45] <Spec> tommylommykins: I mean, you should definitely add the suggestion in ubuntu bug tracker. I wonder if it would be reasonable to have a post-install script in kernel packages to remove kernels over 5 revisions old, but that has a bunch of implications.
[22:45] <sskalnik> tommylommykins:  Sounds like a good plan. Any of those methods will work for you, so you should be good. If not, please let us know.
[22:45] <html> !pastbin | html
[22:45] <CarlFK> ikonia: that's all i need.  I am actually laying out podiums screens and speaker stands :)
[22:45] <edbian> tommylommykins, that link is how to remove extra kernels from the grub menu via gui
[22:45] <ikonia> CarlFK: that sound familier
[22:46] <Spec> with Ubuntu Tweak, which was recommended twenty minutes ago :p
[22:46] <CarlFK> ikonia: pycon
[22:46] <Roasted> hello!
[22:46] <ikonia> CarlFK: let me know if it's any good please.
[22:46] <html> hi
[22:46] <edbian> ohhh, sorry :P
[22:46] <CarlFK> ikonia: will do
[22:46] <Roasted> getting an error with winff in Ubuntu - Unable to parse option value "160kb"
[22:46] <Roasted> thoughts?
[22:46] <arnotixe> Hi all good news there actually is a bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/241368 VOTE!
[22:48] <ady> so, any ideea to make the Desktop 3D ? i do not insist on Gnome.. i've just saw it on youtube and want to test it (some nice cube)
[22:49] <geruja> how to uninstall 38 kernel update on 10.04 which was installed with this command sudo apt-get install linux-image-generic-lts-backport-natty linux-headers-generic-lts-backport-natty
[22:49] <edbian> ady, are you running unity?
[22:49] <xangua> ady cube doesn't work with unity, if that is your goal
[22:49] <EvilResistance> arnotixe:  i'm not sure that's a true bug...  also considering its age, i doubt anything will be done with it...
[22:49] <arnotixe> hehe but I just voted, doesn't anyone care?
[22:49] <idsme> Hi everyone
[22:49] <ady> i have no ideea what i'm running - i just know it is Ubuntu 11.10 from their site; how can i found out ?
[22:50] <idsme> anyone experience with the adaptec 1420 sa raid controller in Ubuntu? How can i install the drivers?  its only SuSe and red hat
[22:50] <arnotixe> EvilResistance, Yep it's old. I guess nobody think it's REALLY critical to fix it...
[22:50] <DeltaEpsilon>              total       used       free     shared    buffers     cached
[22:50] <DeltaEpsilon> Mem:          7916       7753        163          0       2170       1635
[22:50] <DeltaEpsilon> -/+ buffers/cache:       3947       3968
[22:50] <DeltaEpsilon> Swap:         8103         56       8046
[22:50] <SwissFox|idle> hey everybody
[22:50] <arnotixe> Created some trouble for me when /boot went full though
[22:50] <sskalnik> ady:  'cat /etc/lsb-release', without quotes.
[22:51] <ady> DISTRIB_ID=Ubuntu
[22:51] <ady> DISTRIB_RELEASE=11.10
[22:51] <ady> DISTRIB_CODENAME=oneiric
[22:51] <ady> DISTRIB_DESCRIPTION="Ubuntu 11.10"
[22:51] <FloodBot1> ady: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:52] <CarlFK> ikonia: sweehome3d is looking pretty cool
[22:52] <EvilResistance> ady:  pastebin istuff like that ;P
[22:52] <ady> i think the flood bot doesn't allow me to paste the result
[22:52] <ady> DISTRIB_ID=Ubuntu
[22:52] <ady> DISTRIB_RELEASE=11.10
[22:52] <ady> DISTRIB_CODENAME=oneiric
[22:53] <ady> DISTRIB_DESCRIPTION="Ubuntu 11.10"
[22:53] <sskalnik> ady:  !paste
[22:53] <xangua> please stop that ady and read what the bot says
[22:53] <sskalnik> ady:  !pastebin
[22:53] <ikonia> CarlFK: excellent
[22:53] <EvilResistance> !pastebin | ady
[22:53] <xangua> ady and i repeat again, cube doesn't work with unity
[22:53] <EvilResistance> ady:  seriously, read the statements the bot told you
[22:53] <geruja> how to uninstall 38 kernel update on 10.04 which was installed with this command sudo apt-get install linux-image-generic-lts-backport-natty linux-headers-generic-lts-backport-natty
[22:53] <EvilResistance> !repeat | geruja
[22:54] <EvilResistance> geruja:  you can remove it via synaptic by removing the backported kernel's package.
[22:54] <kalfusisagod> who dislikes ubuntu 11.10's layout?
[22:54] <Stepnjump> hi guys, I'm trying to create a keyboard shutcut to open my nautilus in let's say ~/Documents/folder. However, whenever I try command: nautilus ~/folder/folder it doesn't work. It gives me an error.. Why?
[22:55] <Spec> Stepnjump: ...the error will likely tell you why.
[22:55] <ady> !pastebin
[22:55] <sskalnik> What is the optimal method for creating a local repo? I really only need it for custom packages that will be used in-house, though something more comprehensive is fine too.
[22:55] <ady> don't know how to use !pastebin
[22:55] <sskalnik> ady:  copy the output from your screen to http://paste.ubuntu.com
[22:56] <ady> i did
[22:56] <ady> and now ?
[22:56] <drworm> ...
[22:56] <sskalnik> ady: now you show us the link
[22:56] <ady> http://paste.ubuntu.com/779229/plain/
[22:56] <ady> this one ?
[22:57] <ady> sskalnik,  it worked ?
[22:57] <dsterne> //quit
[22:57] <ady> sskalnik, or this ? http://paste.ubuntu.com/779229/
[22:57] <geruja> EvilResistance: is it ok that it says ~100mb will be removed but when i was installing it asked for 200mb free space?
[22:57] <sskalnik> ady:  Yes, got it
[22:57] <ady> :) huh, finaly
[22:57] <sskalnik> ady:  What is your question?
[22:58] <ady> sskalnik, if i can use the 3D desktop with this software
[22:58] <euthymos> ubuntu install fails because of an "I/O error" involving the hard drive or the CD-ROM drive. I've been testing the hard disk for hours, and it seems good. How can I test the CD-ROM drive and/or media?
[22:58] <ady> i don't know if i have Unity or smth; i just know i have Ubuntu 11.10
[22:58] <sskalnik> euthymos:  When you boot from the CD, select 'test CD for errors'
[22:59] <EvilResistance> geruja:  no clue, i never have to deal with lack of space *points at the 4x1TB RAID array in his system*
[22:59] <EvilResistance> geruja:  it might be OK, it might not
[22:59] <Stepnjump> Spec, here is what it says: Could not find "/~/Desktop".
[22:59] <taher> hi there
[22:59] <sskalnik> ady: If it is a default ubuntu install of 11.10, you have Unity.
[23:00] <Spec> Stepnjump: for the shortcut, put the full path:  nautilus /home/username/Documents/folder
[23:00] <sskalnik> ady:  If there are icons all along the left side of the screen, it's probably unity
[23:00] <ady> sskalnik, is as default as it possible can be; i'm kind of zero on Linux
[23:00] <sskalnik> ady:  That's cool, we've all been there. The default is unity.
[23:00] <taher> i want to install flash , mp3 codecs, and others on kubuntu ......how?
[23:00] <ady> sskalnik, yes, i have icons on the left of the screen (launch bar or smth i think is called)
[23:01] <sskalnik> ady:  Yep, that's Unity
[23:01] <ady> sskalnik, so, any possibility to install the 3D desktop ?
[23:01] <sskalnik> ady:  Not sure what you mean
[23:01] <ady> sskalnik, i've hearded about some Gnome and 3D
[23:01] <edbian> When using unity and compiz (unity 3d) the unity bar often gets covered by whatever application is fullscreen.  How can I fix this?
[23:02] <geruja> EvilResistance: i had bcmwl-kernel-source package error, but when removed that new version it's gone so at least it worked, but it's strange where 100mb dissapeared thanks
[23:02] <ady> sskalnik, and i've installed some Gnome - but it works only 2D (or doesn't know how to tell it to be 3D)
[23:02] <Stepnjump> Ok Spec, I just got it....
[23:02] <Stepnjump> it's the full path minus the leading /
[23:02] <myk_robinson> anybody else having difficulty burning data discs in Brasero? Audio does fine, data makes coasters...
[23:02] <xangua> edbian: you mean, it autohides¿
[23:02] <Stepnjump> home/username/Documents/folder... thanks! Spec
[23:03] <Spec> Stepnjump: ah, i didn't know nautilus filled in the first slashy
[23:03] <master_of_master> hi, I have a problem booting my PC, when the DVD drive gets "loaded" the boot process halts
[23:03] <sskalnik> ady:  Someone else may need to answer that; I'm usually at a command line or a plain desktop myself.
[23:03] <Spec> Stepnjump: Oh, I think it must run from pwd=/ when it's called via the shortcut.
[23:03] <ady> ok sskalnik thanks for your patience
[23:03] <taher>  i want to install flash , mp3 codecs, and others on kubuntu ......how?
[23:04] <edbian> xangua, I think it's auto-hidden.  I can't tell if it's hiding or if it's just covered by the open app.  Problem is I can't get to it again except to minimize all applications
[23:04] <sskalnik> ady:  No prob, welcome to Ubuntu ;)
[23:04] <ady> sskalnik, thanks :)
[23:04] <edbian> xangua, sometimes it sort of fixes itself.  Ever heard of anything like this before?
[23:04] <histo> !codecs | taher
[23:05] <xangua> edbian: i don't use unity for now, but i know you can configure it's behavior with the unity plugin wia compiz setting manager
[23:05] <Stepnjump> sorry, you are loosing me with pwd=/ Spec
[23:05] <taher> thanQ
[23:05] <xangua> taher: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-restricted-extras
[23:05] <edbian> xangua, I'll take a look.  Thanks
[23:06] <Spec> Stepnjump: ignore me :)
[23:06] <Stepnjump> lol k Spec
[23:07] <CarlFK> ikonia: as cool as it is, I am going back to dia - sweethome isn't a good fit for what I am doing, like connecing stuff with wires that need to follow the device if I move it
[23:08] <CarlFK> and I have used dia enough that I have some level of confidance
[23:08] <ady> good night people, maybe i found my answer some other time :)
[23:08] <w30> ady, to get 3d Unity you must have a capable video driver working, if your driver or video card doesn't support 3d then you get 2d. If your card supports 3d then try to install a correct driver with jockey-gtk or jockey-kde,
[23:09] <w30> ady or jockey whatever, jockey<tab>
[23:13] <html> http://pastebin.com/H4Sdc0E7   failed updated
[23:16] <html> !qupzilla | html
[23:17] <edbian> How can I configure unity 2d?
[23:17] <edbian> _not_ unity 3d ?
[23:18] <html> Qupzilla have you guy heard of this?
[23:19] <somsip_> html: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/12/qupzilla-might-just-be-the-best-browser-youve-never-heard-of/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+d0od+%28OMG!+Ubuntu!%29
[23:21] <pp7> not sure i wanta browser that crashes :P
[23:22] <ShawnRisk> I am using Ubuntu 11.10 and nothing is printing.  I am using: Brother-HL-5250DN.  Any ideas?
[23:22] <pp7> ShawnRisk: i'm assuming you've tried to set it up and got drivers installed?
[23:24] <Cube``> hey, can you say it again?
[23:24] <TalonLite> Umm im having a problem
[23:24] <TalonLite> Just restarted i'm stuck at the grub
[23:24] <edbian> TalonLite, what is it?
[23:24] <edbian> TalonLite, ubuntu is installed?  Can you boot it at all?
[23:24] <Mrcasy> is this the help channel for Ubuntu 10.11
[23:24] <edbian> Mrcasy, yes
[23:24] <pp7> no
[23:24] <Mrcasy> thanks
[23:24] <pp7> 11.10
[23:25] <edbian> 11.10
[23:25] <EvilResistance> Mrcasy:  you mean 11.10?  ;P
[23:25] <Mrcasy> i dont seem to like gnome3 so i am still running 10.11
[23:25] <EvilResistance> or 10.10, those work
[23:25] <dgvr>  I need to run 1 common mail server with plus a new unique instance of a B2B system and a content management server for each client  ...
[23:25] <TalonLite> "Starting Automatic Crash Report Generator" [Fail]
[23:25] <EvilResistance> Mrcasy:  there is no 10.11 release
[23:25] <edbian> Mrcasy, 11.10
[23:25] <dgvr> Which is better .... Option A: 1 Server with all applications on it and 1 IP address or Option B: multiple servers with multiple IP addresses?
[23:25] <ikonia> dgvr: depends on many things, you'll need to give contect
[23:25] <TalonLite> Yes, It's installed and I've been using it for weeks now.
[23:25] <EvilResistance> Mrcasy:  there's 10.04, 10.10 (already past end of life), 11.04, 11.10, etc.
[23:25] <pp7> dgvr: question needs more detail for an answer
[23:25] <TalonLite> edbian: Now, It just stopped working after a restart.
[23:25] <Mrcasy> this is linux ultimate
[23:26] <edbian> TalonLite, now?
[23:26] <ikonia> Mrcasy: then it's not ubuntu
[23:26] <TalonLite> Yes as we speak.
[23:26] <edbian> TalonLite, can you boot ubuntu?
[23:26] <dgvr> We're setting up a Accounting System over internet for SMB's ..
[23:26] <ikonia> dgvr: I think if you can't work out that level of design - you need to hire someone who can
[23:26] <dgvr> Each client needs access to their own instance of the accounting software and content management software
[23:26] <ikonia> dgvr: that is a fundemental / basic principal of architecture design
[23:26] <TalonLite> Im in the grub, as in I booted system.
[23:27] <Taffflash> hi guys
[23:27] <TalonLite> then it hangs at "Starting Automatic Crash Report Generator" [FAIL]
[23:27] <Taffflash> what version is without unity?
[23:27] <TalonLite> So I hit alt+F2 and joined the irc.
[23:27] <Mrcasy> how do i tell what version it is
[23:27] <histo> Mrcasy: cat /etc/issue
[23:28] <edbian> TalonLite, that's not grub that's ubuntu booting and you logging in but graphics not working
[23:28] <dgvr> we're considering multiple OpenVZ or LXC containers on 1 server
[23:28] <edbian> TalonLite, Can you run 'startx' ? without quotes?
[23:28] <TalonLite> That's what i meant i guess
[23:28] <TalonLite> I tried already
[23:28] <dgvr> but want some feedback from others
[23:28] <Mrcasy> ok here it is  Ubuntu 10.10 \n \l
[23:28] <edbian> TalonLite, what happens?
[23:28] <ikonia> dgvr: this isn't an ubuntu issue - you need to hire someone who understand technical arcitecture design
[23:28] <TalonLite> Error, No Screens found
[23:28] <tray76> any version Taffflash. Just install gnome-shell
[23:29] <dgvr> thanks ikonia ...
[23:29] <dgvr> anyone else?
[23:29] <pp7> Mrcasy: what the hell is Linux Ultimate?  Dont tell me that's the name of a distro
[23:29] <EvilResistance> dgvr:  its not an ubuntu support issue, ikonia is right.
[23:29] <EvilResistance> !offtopic > dgvr
[23:29] <pp7> jeez it is :P
[23:29] <edbian> TalonLite, mmm, lemme google
[23:29] <Mrcasy> yes it is its ubuntu 10.10 and its verry nice toooo
[23:29] <EvilResistance> dgvr:  you might want to ask in #ubuntu-offtopic or what not
[23:29] <TalonLite> edbian: kk because I currently can't lol, just irssi..
[23:29] <Taffflash> tray76, is the command got that please?
[23:29] <dgvr> nice one
[23:30] <edbian> TalonLite, w3m ;)
[23:30] <dgvr> thanks gents
[23:30] <lore_> xubuntu
[23:30] <lore_> is cool
[23:30] <Taffflash> fofor that i mean?
[23:30] <TalonLite> edbian: It's saying it can't connect to my X Server
[23:30] <TalonLite> "Connection Refused"
[23:30] <lore_> openbox
[23:30] <snansnell> i don't know how to connect to a different server.
[23:30] <edbian> TalonLite, w3m http://www.google.com
[23:30] <alan__> cant get internet connection on KDE Trinity any help?
[23:31] <histo> dgvr: I would go with what you are thinking with openvz
[23:31] <TalonLite> Installing now
[23:31] <edbian> TalonLite, do you have a /etc/X11/xorg.conf ?
[23:31] <edbian> TalonLite, It's just a CLI web browser.  Forget it
[23:31] <Mrcasy> i been running linux mint for past several months and seen this and had to install it
[23:32] <TalonLite> Yeah, it's reading the xorg
[23:32] <edbian> TalonLite, remove you /etc/X11/xorg.conf  change it to /etc/X11/xorg.bak.conf or something
[23:33] <TalonLite> quick command to change it?
[23:33] <edbian> TalonLite, sudo mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.bak.conf
[23:33] <TalonLite> I did a backup like yesterday, so replacing it with the backup should work. I just forget the command off hand.
[23:34] <edbian> TalonLite, the command I gave just renames the file
[23:34] <edbian> TalonLite, after you've run that try to startx again
[23:35] <TalonLite> edbian: It's saying that there is no such directory when trying to change the name
[23:35] <edbian> TalonLite, hang on...
[23:36] <clay-> Can anyone tell me which of these would be more happy with ubuntu? Dynex DX-PCIGB or Netgear GA311
[23:36] <edbian> TalonLite, make sure you're typing it the same as me /etc/X11/xorg.conf   (capital X in X11, and those are 1's not l's)
[23:36] <edbian> TalonLite, I am sure of the names and I have typed it correctly to you
[23:36] <TalonLite> I know, and I did.
[23:37] <edbian> TalonLite, well, I don't know what to tell you
[23:37] <TalonLite> Hmm, Thanks anyways.
[23:37] <edbian> TalonLite, alright
[23:37] <TalonLite> I appreciate you trying to help.
[23:37] <coolstar> Any C/C++ Devs here who want to help out on an open source shockwave player?
[23:38] <edbian> TalonLite, the issue is that you're not typing the command correctly
[23:40] <kyubutsu> just noticed the new rubbish bin
[23:44] <thegreyspot> [Hi, I have to use kernel 2.6.39 because of my wifi card. Is there any way I can get PAE enabled on this kernel?
[23:45] <ahmad> hai
[23:46] <Resistance> ahmad:  hi!
[23:46] <coolstar> I was playing some music, when something went wrong with the audio and now its stuck in a loop. I killed totem, but the audio won't stop. Its annoying me like a LOT.
[23:46] <dave> yo
[23:46] <Resistance> thegreyspot:  there might be a PAE'd version in the repos, are you on Oneiric?
[23:46] <Resistance> or something
[23:46] <thegreyspot> YEs oneiric
[23:47] <thegreyspot> I looked http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/
[23:47] <Guest83009> N00Bish question: CAN i PUT audio in a plymouth boot splash so that it plays music during boot?
[23:47] <thegreyspot> But couldnt find them :(
[23:47] <ahmad> ada orangrisg  indonesia disini ??? saya lum ngarti bahasa ing
[23:47] <davers> is there any way to tell if opengl is working for your video card?
[23:47] <davers> lspci ???
[23:47] <Guest83009> 	N00Bish question: CAN i PUT audio in a plymouth boot splash so that it plays music during boot?
[23:48] <TalonLite> edbian: I was typing it correctly.
[23:48] <TalonLite> Also, Got it working
[23:48] <edbian> TalonLite, how did you get it working?
[23:48] <pp7> Guest83009: probably not
[23:48] <edbian> TalonLite, Why was it saying there is no /etc/X11/xorg.conf ?
[23:48] <pp7> Guest83009: u can on a commodore 64 though :P
[23:49] <Resistance> thegreyspot:  you're using a version from a ppa?
[23:49] <TalonLite> Because i renamed it while doing something
[23:49] <coolstar> I was playing some music when the audio system seemed to crash, and now its stuck in a loop. Is there any way I can stop it?
[23:49] <TalonLite> then I grabbed a bite to eat, came back and restarted forgetting I renamed it and didn't replace it.
[23:49] <kyubutsu> davers: run glxgears in terminal.. if it runs, opengl is active
[23:49] <coolstar> I'm on ubuntu 11.10
[23:49] <histo> !sound | coolstar
[23:49] <Resistance> thegreyspot:  i'd poke the kernel team, because its not compiled with PAE support in it, you might not be able to get PAE into it easily
[23:49] <Resistance> not without a recompile with PAE support added in
[23:50] <Resistance> thegreyspot:  (and if you dont know what you're doing bad things can happen)
[23:50] <coolstar> histo: sound normally works, but the audio seemed to crash. It is stuck in a loop and is driving me crazy
[23:50] <ubuntu> Does anyone have experience with HDMI audio in Ubuntu
[23:50] <edbian> TalonLite, ohhh :P
[23:50] <histo> Resistance: thegreyspot Doesn't the server kernel have pae support?
[23:50] <Resistance> histo:  not sure, i'm not sure it has it by default
[23:51] <thegreyspot> Resistance: Darn i see. does 2.6  never have one with PAE?
[23:51] <TalonLite> Yeah lol I didn't know why the command wasn't working then went into the dir and checked and remembered
[23:51] <thegreyspot> histo: I dont know :/ would they?
[23:51] <Resistance> thegreyspot:  there might be ones with PAE in the main repos, but you'd have to ask the kernel team
[23:51] <Resistance> they'd know more
[23:51] <histo> thegreyspot: I'm pretty sure the server kernels have pae support
[23:51] <Resistance> thegreyspot:  if you want, try #ubuntu-kernel
[23:51] <histo> thegreyspot: is there a reason you can't use a 64bit kernel?
[23:51] <Resistance> they might now
[23:51] <Resistance> know*
[23:51] <blind> Hi, how can I use notify-osd instead of whatever gnome-shells default notification system is?
[23:52] <thegreyspot> histo: No, I just dont want any hassles with something not working cause 64bit. But is it pretty good these days?
[23:52] <asw3> someone here know good terminal thay support "Bi-directional text rendering" on gnome?
[23:53] <pp7> thegreyspot: I have ZERO problems with 64bit
[23:53] <asw3> that*
[23:53] <histo> thegreyspot: yes there is no reason not to run it
[23:53] <thegreyspot> Resistance: thanks ill try that
[23:53] <pp7> thegreyspot: and been using it for about 2 years
[23:53] <TalonLite> brb
[23:53] <thegreyspot> histo darn ok hahah means i have to reinstall right?
[23:53] <ubuntu> Can anyone help with aplay -D default /path/to/.wav not making a noise
[23:53] <mikere> I'm still having problems with nvidia drivers.  I've reinstalled the driver with apt, upgraded to 10.10 and reinstalled again with no luck.  The modprobe can't find nvidia driver.  Any hints?
[23:53] <pp7> mikere: sudo apt-get remove nvidia* then reinstall
[23:54] <histo> ubuntu: Try selecting the appropriate device and output with -D
[23:54] <asw3> someone here know good terminal that support "Bi-directional text rendering" on gnome?
[23:54] <mikere> pp7: so apt-get remove nvidia-common --purge isn't enough?
[23:54] <pp7> mikere: obviously not :P
[23:54] <kyubutsu> get used to managing installs with software centre
[23:55] <davers> anyone get quake3 arena working?
[23:56] <histo> !anyone | davers
[23:56] <kyubutsu> there is a quake channel
[23:57] <mikere> pp7: so after removing, I should just install nvidia-common and run nvidia-xconfig?
[23:58] <pp7> mikere: yea
[23:58] <mikere> pp7: after installing nvidia-common, no nvidia-xconfig is found.
[23:59] <edbian> mikere, pp7 perhaps sudo nvidia-xconfig  ??
[23:59] <TalonLite> working, thanks edbian
[23:59] <edbian> TalonLite, sure
[23:59] <mikere> edbian, pp7: not even with sudo