[00:02] <CIA-48> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kdepim-runtime] Philip Muškovac * 92 * debian/ (changelog kdepim-runtime.install not-installed) * Add libnepomukdatamanagement-copy.so to kdepim-runtime.install required by akonadi_nepomuk_feeder * refresh not-installed
[00:21] <BarkingFish> that reminds me, I need to set my stuff up again. I still haven't reset from the last time I reinstalled Kubuntu :)
[00:24] <BarkingFish> anyone got the link back to the wiki where all the packaging setup information was please?
[00:32] <yofel> BarkingFish: ours was https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Ninjas/BuildEnvironment
[00:33] <BarkingFish> ah, great.  I may have made a #hash of this then, I've just followed the one from https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PackagingGuide/Complete
[00:33] <BarkingFish> !whale BarkingFish 
[00:34] <BarkingFish> 0.0
[00:56] <BarkingFish> yofel: you still free? I have a problem.
[00:56] <yofel> yep
[00:57] <BarkingFish> Just generated my new GPG key, and gone to send it, and the instructions I'm following are wrong.  they say to use  gpg --send-keys <key id here>
[00:57] <BarkingFish> that doesn't work, I need the URI of the keyserver in it, i think
[00:57] <yofel> ah, probably missing keyserver: --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com
[00:57] <Riddell> you need to set gpg config first
[00:58] <BarkingFish> done, yofel, thanks
[00:59] <yofel> hm, actually Riddell's right...
[00:59]  * yofel sets keyserver in his gpg.conf after 4 years of using ubuntu ^^
[01:13] <BarkingFish> excellent, well I'm almost done, just setting up a pbuilder-dist for precise, and then I'll be finished :)
[01:24] <Riddell> yofel: how did you install precise?
[01:24] <yofel> upgrade
[01:25] <Riddell> ok I think we still need the installer fixed
[02:21] <ScottK> debfx: You can test kdeplasma-addons now.
[02:44] <claydoh> http://packages.debian.org/changelogs/pool/main/liba/libalkimia/libalkimia_4.3.1-1/changelog
[02:44] <claydoh> funny place to find my name...
[08:41] <debfx> ScottK: still have to wait until marble is published
[09:45] <who_me> hello, does the menu editor work for you guys in 4.8. beta 2 ?
[10:29] <debfx> who_me: you need to install kmenuedit
[10:30] <debfx> will be fixed in the next kde-workspace upload
[10:30] <who_me> indeed I had to and i did :)
[10:30] <who_me> thought I was alone in here.
[10:44] <Quintasan_> Good morning
[10:45] <Quintasan_> More like good afternoon, but whatever :P
[10:45] <Quintasan> Haven't slept so well in like ages
[10:46] <Quintasan> Oh right, new GPG key
[10:46]  * Quintasan adds that for todo
[11:12] <Riddell> what's with the floodbots in #kubuntu?
[11:13] <Quintasan> jussi: ^
[11:13] <Quintasan> Beats me
[11:16] <Riddell> ScottK: new pyqt and sip if you're into packaging those
[11:17] <Riddell> adds QtDBus so support for dbus in python 3
[11:19] <Riddell> gosh there's a PyQtMobility
[11:20] <Quintasan> Riddell: I've got basic packaging for simon listens if I did not delete it by accident
[11:21] <Riddell> Quintasan: have you got it to work?
[11:21] <Quintasan> Riddell: AFAIR something it the buildsystem was broken, will look into it later tomorow
[11:21] <Quintasan> or right now since noone from #launchpad is replying
[11:26] <ScottK> Riddell: I can look at them.
[11:52] <Quintasan> Riddell: Oh god, debian/copyright will be a hell
[12:03] <ScottK> debfx: marble is done too.
[12:15] <Quintasan> !file qaudio.h
[12:15] <Quintasan> !package qaudio.h
[12:15] <Quintasan> durr
[12:16] <Quintasan> !search qaudio.h
[12:25] <Quintasan> Riddell, ScottK: http://paste.ubuntu.com/779742 <-- any ideas fro qaudio.h? qtmobility-dev is not the package I want
[12:25] <Quintasan> for*
[12:29] <ScottK> Quintasan: Why is that not the package you want?
[12:29] <Quintasan> Since it still fails to discover the file
[12:29] <ScottK> It may be the package you want, but the CMake is broken.
[12:30] <Quintasan> It is possible
[12:30] <yofel_> it doesn't even look for it in cmake
[12:30] <yofel_> the build just fails...
[12:30] <ScottK> Since that's the only qaudio.h we've got, I'd explore broken build system.
[12:40] <Quintasan> Urgh.
[12:41] <Quintasan> yofel: Any idea how to fix it?
[12:42] <yofel> not really, does the #include and search path match with the file's location?
[12:44] <Quintasan> include_directories( ${KDE4_INCLUDES} ${QT_INCLUDES} ../)
[12:44] <Quintasan> Shouldn't that do the trick?
[12:44] <Quintasan> Unless Qt Mobility has another variable
[12:45] <ScottK> I'm guessing https://launchpadlibrarian.net/87214047/buildlog_ubuntu-precise-armhf.kwave_0.8.6-1-1_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz should be ~easy for any of you C++ programmers out there (e.g. not me).
[13:03] <Quintasan> yofel: Seems like QT_INCLUDES doesnt contain /usr/include/QtMobility/ not /usr/include/QtMultimediaKit
[13:04] <yofel> fun -.-
[13:04] <Quintasan> Nonetheless I get a lot of undefined references when I supply those paths by hand
[13:06]  * Quintasan gives up for time being
[13:07] <Quintasan> !package qtmobility-dev precise
[13:07] <Quintasan> kubotu: ping
[13:07] <kubotu> pong
[13:07] <Quintasan> kubotu: !package precise qtmobility-dev
[13:07] <Quintasan> !info qtmobility-dev
[13:08] <Quintasan> bloody hell
[13:08] <Quintasan> !info qtmobility-dev precise
[13:08] <Quintasan> needs update
[13:22] <Riddell> Quintasan: you can just manually add the directory to include_directories() as a patch
[13:22] <Riddell> or you can make apachelogger happy and port it to phonon :)
[13:29] <Quintasan> Riddell, I did but still a shitload of undefined references, either we have old qtmobility in precise ( I doubt it ) or simon 0.3.0 was released depending on unreleased qtmobility
[13:30] <Riddell> Quintasan: so it finds the header but the header misses values?
[13:30] <Quintasan> It finds the header if I modify the CMakeLists.txt
[13:30] <Quintasan> so that needs fixing too
[13:31] <Quintasan> I would be happier if I could find a cmake variable for QtMobility because I used hardpath now
[13:36] <Riddell> cmake-gui could help
[13:36] <Riddell> but if it's not already available I think it would need a new cmake file
[13:37] <Riddell> it's fine for us just to hard code it and report it upstream
[13:37] <Riddell> if not entirely satisfactory to upstream :)
[13:37] <Riddell> Quintasan: pastebin the current error?
[13:38] <Quintasan> deleted the log :/
[13:38] <Riddell> did you take a note of what it was missing?
[13:38] <Quintasan> Riddell: I don't think you can do much, it's like almost half of the includes is missing
[13:39] <Riddell> ask upstream what version of qtmobility it expects then I guess
[13:39] <Quintasan> Will do
[13:39]  * Quintasan goes off to help his mother
[14:20] <ScottK> Riddell: I think the new Pyqt4 needs python-dbus stuff that's not released yet for python3 support.
[14:40] <ScottK> Riddell: New sip4 is uploaded to Debian.
[15:53] <Riddell> ScottK: surely the point of the new PyQt4 is it doesn't need python-dbus since it wraps QtDBus
[15:54] <ScottK> Hmmm.
[15:54] <ScottK> Could be.
[15:55] <ScottK> So maybe I buffaloed Barry into doing a python-dbus port to python3 for nothing ....
[15:55] <ScottK> Sigh.
[15:56] <Riddell> ScottK: I already told him that PyQt would be doing something with QtDBus at UDS
[15:56] <ScottK> OK.
[15:56] <Riddell> ScottK: has PyQt for python 3 been looked into ever?
[15:56] <ScottK> Yes.
[15:56] <ScottK> The packaging in Debian is ~done.
[15:57] <ScottK> It should be uploaded in the next day or two (without dbus)
[16:43] <_Groo_> hi/2 all
[16:43] <_Groo_> im a hero :D http://www.asinen.org/2011/12/my-heroes-of-kde-2011/
[16:46] <Riddell> what's your superpower?
[16:50] <_Groo_> Riddell: im a super commiter :D
[16:50] <_Groo_> btw, im having spikes all day long of virtuoso-t... he goes 100% cpu, and down, up and down
[16:50] <_Groo_> anyone else seeing this in 4.7.90?
[16:51] <_Groo_> according to the stats i did 20% of all the work this year
[16:59] <debfx> ScottK: kdeplasma-addons upload
[16:59] <debfx> ScottK: have you already upstreamed the gwenview fix?
[16:59] <ScottK> debfx: Excellent.
[16:59] <ScottK> I emailed it to agateau but it's not committed yet.
[16:59] <ScottK> If you've got commit rights, please do.
[16:59] <ScottK> (I'm pretty sure he's on vacation)
[17:02] <ScottK> debfx: You should have looked in bzr before uploading ...
[17:02] <debfx> yeah, I noticed too late
[17:02] <ScottK> Not a big deal though.
[17:02] <ScottK> No worries.
[17:03] <letrec> would it be possible to backport polkit-qt-1 0.103.0+ into 11.10?
[17:03] <who_me> now, why would kmix need 1GB of RAM ?
[17:03] <letrec> it seems to fix quite annoying memory leak bug https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=271934#c43
[17:07] <ScottK> letrec: If you can find out what change in polkit-qt-1 fixed the problem, we can surely get that in.
[17:32] <_Groo_> Riddell: is this ok? Soprano: "Invalid argument (1)": "Cannot set values for abstract property 'http://www.semanticdesktop.org/ontologies/2007/03/22/nco#hasEmailAddress'."
[17:32] <_Groo_> 4.7.90
[17:32] <_Groo_> maybe some other file is missing from kdepim?
[17:35] <Riddell> _Groo_: I don't know the context
[17:36] <_Groo_> nepomuk is making virtuoso have spikes of 100% even though aparently its all indexed
[17:37] <_Groo_> i removed nepomuk folder from .kde/share/apps, and when he recreated the db he warner about this semantic context missing
[17:37] <Riddell> that seems like a fair thing to warn about
[17:38] <_Groo_> no no
[17:38] <_Groo_> when he recreates them
[17:39] <_Groo_> Riddell: see http://paste.ubuntu.com/780053/
[17:40] <_Groo_> after i recreated nepomuk db, virtuoso appears to have quietted down.. lets see if it still spikes to 100% after a while
[17:40] <_Groo_> indexing is done acording to nepomuk
[17:47] <rbelem> _Groo_, i'm not seeing issues with virtuoso here, only kmixer. 
[17:47] <Riddell> kmixer is broken for me too
[17:47] <Riddell> yofel said it was good from neon
[17:48] <_Groo_> its a bug between kmix and pulseaudio
[17:48] <_Groo_> kmix will behave with "normal" sound
[17:49] <_Groo_> like clementine or amarok
[17:49] <_Groo_> run a flash trailer on youtube and see kmix go 100%
[17:49] <_Groo_> kill kmix, restart it, all is well
[17:49] <_Groo_> some stupid bug with pipes and pulseaudio if i can just shoot in the dark
[17:50] <_Groo_> maybe they fixed it in 4.7.95?
[17:50] <_Groo_> anyone working on it btw?
[17:51] <_Groo_> hum, virtuoso-t is spiking again
[17:51] <_Groo_> damn
[17:51] <_Groo_> very strange
[17:51] <_Groo_> goes up to 100% cpu, almost 1g ram, then he just goes back to idle and normal 100M memory
[17:59] <ScottK> I think Riddell is working on 4.7.95.  I hope so, anyway.
[18:01] <_Groo_> ScottK: sorry i dropped, did you say something just a min ago?
[18:02] <ScottK> [12:59:04] <ScottK> I think Riddell is working on 4.7.95.  I hope so, anyway.
[18:02] <_Groo_> ScottK: ah ok
[18:02] <_Groo_> i might be able to help this weekend if he needs minions
[18:03] <letrec> ScottK: I'm not sure, but maybe it's https://projects.kde.org/projects/kdesupport/polkit-qt-1/repository/revisions/d3c337da01f3887da031fdb5c2ac784fb3e79210 the one
[18:04] <ScottK> letrec: Can you build a patched package and see if that fixes it (I'm getting ready to leave town today, so no time).
[18:04] <ScottK> I agree it looks promising.
[18:05] <ScottK> _Groo_: Perhaps you could assist letrec in building a patched polkit-qt-1 to see if he's found the right commit for his memory leak?
[18:06] <maco> letrec: do you get confused with lautrec often?
[18:06] <_Groo_> ScottK: what needs assistance? isnt it better just to pull from git master? instead of cherrypicking git commits?
[18:06] <_Groo_> ScottK: those are 2 questions btw
[18:06] <ScottK> _Groo_: He wants to fix it in oneiric.
[18:07] <_Groo_> ScottK: i know
[18:07] <_Groo_> ScottK: what i mean is
[18:07] <ScottK> So we don't normally backport full releases outside KDE SC.
[18:07] <_Groo_> ScottK: from a release manager point of you, backporting a secure package > then just patching a older package
[18:07] <ScottK> I don't know how much experience he's had, so he may need some guidance and i've got no time to help today.
[18:07] <_Groo_> ScottK: but sure, i can test it
[18:08] <_Groo_> ScottK: np, ill be here for 2 and half more hours
[18:08] <ScottK> Usually we prefer minimal diffs for specific issues post-release.
[18:08] <_Groo_> but i dont have access to dput commits.. im behind a proxy
[18:08] <_Groo_> so i can only help in theory
[18:08] <_Groo_> ScottK: yeah i know
[18:08] <_Groo_> ScottK: im all for it, but when it cames to polkit.. well... security frameworks are better to upgrade at full or left alone
[18:09] <ScottK> Perhaps.
[18:09] <_Groo_> ScottK: that patch might fix it in master but misbehave when ported to older code
[18:09] <ScottK> Except in this case, I know the current release was a consequence of people yelling about bugs, not a careful plan.
[18:09] <micahg> _Groo_: I would tend to disagree if the fix is targeted, security frameworks can have weird effects on things that use them 
[18:10] <ScottK> Which is why you don't blindly apply the patch and go, you do have to look at the code.
[18:10] <JontheEchidna> That polkit-qt-1 patch has already been applied as a fix for the polkit-kde-1 crash on logout
[18:10] <_Groo_> ScottK: yeah, i agree again :) im looking at it
[18:10] <ScottK> Thanks.
[18:10] <_Groo_> JontheEchidna: so its there already?
[18:10] <_Groo_> JontheEchidna: or only for kde part?
[18:10] <JontheEchidna> yup: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/polkit-qt-1/0.99.0-3ubuntu0.1
[18:11] <ScottK> Sure enough.
[18:11] <ScottK> I even did that update and I didn't recognize the patch.
[18:11] <ScottK> Meh.
[18:11] <_Groo_> so letrec bug is somewthing else?
[18:11] <ScottK> letrec: Make sure you've got oneiric-updates enabled and you're up to date.
[18:12] <_Groo_> btw a question about the new secret code
[18:13] <_Groo_> is it complementary to the current kwallet.. aka is a plugin that works along with "normal" wallet
[18:13] <_Groo_> or a backend replacement
[18:13] <_Groo_> meaning all your passwords and such doesnt get reused
[18:13] <ScottK> AIUI it's all new.  I don't think there's any migration code yet, but it's not used by default yet either.
[18:15] <_Groo_> ScottK: yes i know, what i mean is, you cant use both right? you need to choose secrets or default. its a compilation option? or a checkbox?
[18:15] <ScottK> It's not clear to me that all the bits are in 4.7.95 to even build it.
[18:16] <ScottK> IIRC it's build kdelibs without it, build it, then build kdelibs again.
[18:16] <ScottK> In the distro we can't have that.
[18:18] <Riddell> ScottK: I'm not currently working on 4.7.95 and I think mine and jesus' birthday will prevent me doing so for the next couple of days at least
[18:19] <_Groo_> Riddell: happy birthday then :D
[18:19] <_Groo_> Riddell: i can start something going if i have the time sunday
[18:19] <_Groo_> next week ill have days from 30 to 2
[18:22] <_Groo_> kmix bug is annoying
[19:05] <_Groo_> interesting
[19:05] <_Groo_> if you remove kmixrc* and .kde/share/apps/kmix, kmix now will segfault instead of going 100%
[19:06] <_Groo_> after its running and pulse changes a song for ex
[19:06] <_Groo_> staying with veromix (which i always use) till this is fixed
[19:08] <ScottK> Can you get a backtrace from the segfault and report the bug upstream?
[19:09] <yofel> o/
[19:10] <Riddell> _Groo_: compile kmix from master first, it may well be fixed
[19:10] <ScottK> Holy undiscoverable feature Batman!  ctrl and click on the reload button in Firefox duplicates the current tab (one of the things I'd been missing).
[19:11] <ScottK> yofel: Can you start on 4.7.95?
[19:11] <_Groo_> Riddell: isnt it easier to ask yofel who runs neon (master)?
[19:11] <yofel> yep, I'm on vacation since today
[19:11] <_Groo_> yofel: jelly
[19:11] <yofel> _Groo_: my crash is kde bug  285017  and that is fixed
[19:11] <yofel> at least it doesn't crash with the binary from neon
[19:12] <_Groo_> yofel: i think Riddell is talking about the 100% cpu spike that kmix is doing in 4/7/90
[19:12] <_Groo_> 4.7.90
[19:12] <Riddell> yofel: just ask if you need ec2 machines
[19:12] <ScottK> yofel: That would be lovely since Riddell and are are each occupied with two of three important birthdays in the next week.
[19:13] <yofel> Riddell: nah, I have up to 3 systems I can use here for building
[19:14] <yofel> _Groo_: haven't seen that either yet with the new bin, but it happened pretty rarely and random with 4.7.90
[19:14] <_Groo_> yofel: here its happening a lot, more with flash streams and such
[19:15] <_Groo_> prolly fixed in 4.7.95
[19:15] <_Groo_> yofel: count me in for bug testing the packages :D
[19:15] <_Groo_> yofel: are you going to uload them to ninja?
[19:15] <yofel> yeah
[19:17] <_Groo_> yofel: k, ill keep an eye for the goods
[19:44] <CIA-48> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/meta-kde] Philip Muškovac * 25 * debian/ (changelog rules) Bump kde-sc-dev-latest to 4.7.95
[19:53] <CIA-48> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/oxygen-icons] Philip Muškovac * 90 * debian/changelog New upstream release release candidate
[19:53] <yofel> oops
[19:54] <CIA-48> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/oxygen-icons] Philip Muškovac * 90 * debian/changelog New upstream release candidate
[20:09] <CIA-48> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kdelibs] Philip Muškovac * 392 * debian/ (changelog kdelibs5-data.install) * New upstream release candidate - update kdelibs5-data.install
[20:25] <CIA-48> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/smokegen] Philip Muškovac * 19 * debian/ (4 files in 2 dirs) * New upstream release candidate - drop fix_segfault_in_generator_on_armel.diff, fixed upstream - refresh version_cppparser_library.diff
[20:32] <CIA-48> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/meta-kde] Philip Muškovac * 26 * debian/rules actually bump all values
[20:39] <CIA-48> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/smokeqt] Philip Muškovac * 14 * debian/changelog New upstream release candidate
[20:50] <yofel> _Groo_: btw, I just stubled over kde bug 288675 
[21:16] <who_me> pk, good news is kmix managed to crash :) bad news is that installing kdemultimedia-dbg only gives me a two stars quality backtrace
[21:16] <who_me> ok*
[21:20] <yofel> and there goes kmix (100 cpu)...
[21:20] <who_me> ah, needed libpulse0-dbg
[21:20] <who_me> yofel: does it also leak memory like crazy ?
[21:22] <yofel> hm, didn't notice anything there, and I just killed it
[21:22] <who_me> :D
[21:25] <_Groo_> who_me: yes it does, goes to more then 1GB
[21:26] <who_me> bah, it seems that bugs 288675 and 289682 need to be merged, both report two sides of the same problem
[21:26] <who_me> silly ubottu
[21:26] <yofel> you need to prepend kde
[21:26] <yofel> kde bug 288675
[21:27] <yofel> kde bug 289682
[21:27] <yofel> the crash should be kde bug 285017 as long as it's pulse related
[21:27] <who_me> just happy it managed to crash and I actually got a good backtrace from it
[21:29] <who_me> and another one, lol
[21:29] <who_me> I think it crashes as songs in amarok change
[21:33] <who_me> yep
[21:44] <CIA-48> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kde-wallpapers] Philip Muškovac * 19 * debian/ (changelog control kde-wallpapers.install) * New upstream release candidate. - update kde-wallpapers.install
[21:44] <yofel> we got new wallpapers :D
[21:48] <CIA-48> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kdepimlibs] Philip Muškovac * 155 * debian/ (5 files) * New upstream release candidate - update kdepimlibs5-dev.install
[21:58] <yofel> hm...
[21:59]  * yofel doesn't get how kde-symbolshelper handles bumping of X-Debian-ABI
[22:00] <yofel> in the analitza buildlog I have a huge diff because the symbols are named differently now due to the bump, but updating the symbol files does nothing...
[22:01] <Riddell> yofel: you have to change the name of the package
[22:02] <Riddell> libanalitza1api1 or the like
[22:02] <yofel> well, you did that already
[22:02] <Riddell> just make a new symbols file
[22:02] <Riddell> it's a new package after all
[22:02] <Riddell> yofel: did you update which allpaper is in kde-wallpapers.install ?
[22:03] <Riddell> I read there's a new default
[22:03] <yofel> hm..... I updated .install, but didn't change the default one - I'll have to check which one that is
[22:06] <Riddell> that setting is hidden somewhere in plasma
[22:06] <Riddell> "Uninstall" posted it
[22:09] <Riddell> hmm Davide Bettio posted on facebook but didn't give a name
[22:09] <Riddell> "KDE 4.8 default wallpapers preview." oh plural, maybe they haven't chosen a single default yet
[22:13] <Riddell> yofel: Ariya? http://websvn.kde.org/?view=revision&revision=1269254
[22:13] <yofel> Ariya certainly had the most resolutions
[22:14] <Riddell> I wonder if we'll need to update the plasma config file again
[22:15] <Riddell> the user one
[22:15] <yofel> if we remove the current default wallpaper from the package we probably will
[22:16] <Riddell> yeah
[22:17] <Riddell> new wallpaper looks purpley, I knew I made the right choice back in feisty time :)
[22:18]  * Riddell looks at the kdevelop patch
[22:20] <CIA-48> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/analitza] Philip Muškovac * 2 * debian/ (4 files) * New upstream release candidate * Fix symbol files to match the previous ABI bump
[22:29] <sheytan> Riddell can you send a link to previews?
[22:29] <Riddell> sheytan: of the wallpaper?
[22:29] <sheytan> Riddell yep
[22:29] <Riddell> websvn.kde.org/*checkout*/trunk/KDE/kde-wallpapers/Ariya/contents/images/800x600.png?revision=1269254&pathrev=1269254
[22:30] <yofel> workspace got a kdm theme for Ariya, so Ariya it is then
[22:30] <sheytan> This is not as nice as the others wallpapers ;(
[22:30] <sheytan> but no one uses default so its ok
[22:31] <Riddell> lots of files needing moved and lots of replaces/breaks then
[22:31] <yofel> not as much
[22:31] <Riddell> I use the default wallpaper!
[22:31] <yofel> kde-wallpapers breaks kde-wallpapers-default and kdewallpapers (artwork) breaks kde-wallpapers
[22:31] <Riddell> yofel: and KDM and ksplash files?
[22:32] <yofel> I'm not at workspace yet, just did a quick grep so far
[22:32] <sheytan> Riddell so you one of the few :)
[22:33] <yofel> Horos was nice as default, Ariya certainly isn't
[22:33] <Riddell> ach people always say that about the new one
[22:34] <Riddell> I thought Horos was too Fedora-colours.  blue and black
[22:35] <yofel> well, Ariya feels more like what we had before that (Ethais?) - too plain for me
[22:36] <CIA-48> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kde-wallpapers] Philip Muškovac * 20 * debian/ (4 files) Switch default wallpaper to Ariya and make kde-wallpapers break/replace kde-wallpapers-default << 4:4.7.95
[22:46] <CIA-48> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kactivities] Philip Muškovac * 2 * debian/ (changelog control) New upstream release candidate
[23:09] <CIA-48> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/okular] Philip Muškovac * 19 * debian/ (8 files in 2 dirs) * New upstream release candidate * Enable DebianABIManager and bump ABI of libokularcore1
[23:17] <Riddell> aww man and I just got kdevelop buildings against okular again
[23:29] <yofel> ^^
[23:35] <CIA-48> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kactivities] Philip Muškovac * 3 * debian/ (changelog libkactivities-dev.install) update libkactivities-dev.install
[23:53] <Riddell> ooh I'm nearly old