[00:00] <apoth> hi my netbook shows only a slideshow of pictures when i startup. white screen, red screen, green screen, blue screen, grey screen, dark grey, vertical greyscale lines, horizontal greyscale lines,
[00:00] <apoth> is that something known?
[00:00] <apoth> im using the new emgd drivers for GMA500 on kubuntu oneiric
[00:00] <apoth> netbook is a T91MT
[00:10] <renosis> Hi, I have GoogleEarth installed on Kubuntu, the only way to start it is to open a terminal and type googleearth, when I try to open it from application launcher or any where in kde, the bar appears on the taskbar and the circular "busy" or "loading" icon shows and eventually disappears and the application doesn't open.
[00:10] <renosis> I checked out the properties of the shortcut icon and the command is exactly the same as what I would type in, in terminal
[00:11] <SunTsu> renosis: tried looking into dmesg and/or log files to see if it segfaulted or something?
[00:11] <renosis> and I can't find anything about this issue any where, any suggestions?
[00:12] <renosis> SunTsu, no, I suppose that would be a good start, let me have a look
[00:13] <SunTsu> renosis: while you're at it you might want to look core a core file
[00:13] <SunTsu> for a core file, that is
[00:13] <renosis> just weird that it opens just fine when I type the command in terminal and I get nothing when trying to use the icon
[00:15] <SunTsu> renosis: I just tried it here, worked like a charm, so it must be something in your setup
[00:15] <renosis> ya, must be
[00:16] <Torch> renosis: that's probably a sign that the .desktop file for it doesn't really work.
[00:16] <renosis> Torch, I'll check that then, thanks
[00:20] <renosis> Exec looks to be correct, nothing looks out of the ordinary, but not sure on some of the items, weird, I'll try changing a few things
[00:20] <renosis> thanks guys
[00:20] <SunTsu> renosis: maybe it's some paramaters in it, like working directory and such, when you say that the command line looks ok
[00:20] <SunTsu> parameters even
[00:21] <renosis> yup, well, it must be something in here
[00:22] <renosis> thanks again, now I have some where to begin trying to determine what is wrong
[00:24] <ybit> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z_6KbgUGLuY
[00:25] <renosis> ah! I got it working! It was pointing to the old non-working version I had in my home folder, and when running from terminal, it was running from /opt/google-earth
[00:26] <renosis> so, I just switched the location, hehe, that was dumb
[00:28] <SunTsu> renosis: well, you finally found it out. congrats
[00:42] <renosis> SunTsu, thanks again, goodnight!
[00:48] <RiotingPacifist> Kubuntu sometimes prompts for root password instead of sudo this makes it impossible to do some stuff without launching systemsettings as root
[00:52] <pedahzur> At what version did KDE PIM switch to using the Akonadi back-end to store everything?
[00:58] <Torch> RiotingPacifist: like when?
[00:59] <RiotingPacifist> Torch: kdm settings is one example where it should prompt for kdesudo bur asked for rootpw instead
[01:00] <tsimpson> if it ever asks for a root password, you've found a bug and should report it
[01:00] <tsimpson> !bug
[01:01] <Torch> RiotingPacifist: kdm settings asks for my admin password here
[01:02] <RiotingPacifist> Torch: tsimpson I've built up my kubuntu install from a minimal install, so I think this is my fault but I can't find anywhere to configure this.
[01:03] <tsimpson> even so, the entirety of Ubuntu (which includes Kubuntu) is built around disabling root and using sudo
[01:05] <RiotingPacifist> tsimpson: true, I've not enabled root either so I'll log a bug for this tommorow. Thanks
[01:06] <tsimpson> :)
[01:10] <BluesKaj> I wonder if the devs at kde are finally going to fix the sizing and postioning problemws with rext files and apps like ktorrent , konversation  and other k-apps. Nothing has been done about this problem for what seems like ages , Advanced seetings in these apps does nothing
[01:10] <BluesKaj> err text files
[01:11] <Torch> BluesKaj: got a tracker number?
[01:17] <BluesKaj> Torch, , i looked for one in launchpad several times , nothing that appears fits the bug
[01:18] <Torch> BluesKaj: why don't you search and report on bugs.kde.org?
[01:18] <Torch> BluesKaj: it appears to be strictly an upstream issue, right?
[01:18] <BluesKaj> yeahn, it's been around since 4.3
[01:18] <BluesKaj> on my setup
[01:19] <Torch> BluesKaj: the kwin guys can't fix bugs they don't know of ;-)
[01:20] <BluesKaj> my kde knowledge should be better , but I don't understand if this is happening to me then it must be ubiquitous , but not being reported
[01:21] <Torch> well if it was totally common it would have been fixed. fwiw, using the advanced kwin configs on konvi works well for me here
[01:22] <ncfi1013_> what application records picture in picture on the desktop?
[01:24] <SunTsu> ncfi1013_: asking the same question in multiple channels at once is considered very impolite
[01:25] <ncfi1013_> ok sorry
[01:25] <ncfi1013_> i was just using all the options to get mutiple results
[01:27] <ncfi1013_> SunTsu...can you help me?
[01:29] <SunTsu> ncfi1013_: I don't even understand your question, I just find it curious that you don't put as much work into your question as you put in asking it on multiple channels
[01:29] <ncfi1013_> ok
[01:29] <ncfi1013_> using skype
[01:30] <ncfi1013_> i want to record video calls
[01:30] <ncfi1013_> while on skype
[01:30] <ncfi1013_> what application do i use?
[01:31] <SunTsu> ncfi1013_: did you ever search for "skypre linux record calls"?
[01:31] <SunTsu> er "skype" of course
[01:32] <ncfi1013_> no
[01:32] <SunTsu> why not?
[01:32] <ncfi1013_> i just thought maybe
[01:32] <ncfi1013_> someone would be cool
[01:33] <ncfi1013_> and give me a straight answer
[01:33] <SunTsu> to tell you things you can find out yourself in about 10 seconds?
[01:33] <ncfi1013_> so whats the answer?
[01:34] <ncfi1013_> what else is an irc for?
[01:34] <Torch> ncfi1013_: did you get your answer?
[01:34] <SunTsu> ncfi1013_: to answer things you can't find out yourself
[01:35] <ncfi1013_> suntsu...whats so hard about being helpful?
[01:36] <SunTsu> ncfi1013_: what's so hard about solving your own problems and ask (lots of) people for help only if you tried all you can?
[01:36] <ncfi1013_> youre being difficult on purpose
[01:36] <Torch> ncfi1013_: he's not. he's honest and has _already told you what to do_
[01:37] <ncfi1013_> wow you guys are real elitists
[01:37] <SunTsu> ncfi1013_: welcome to my ignore list, and glad I could help
[01:37] <ncfi1013_> so whats the answer?
[01:37] <Torch> [02:31:27] <SunTsu> ncfi1013_: did you ever search for "skypre linux record calls"?
[01:38] <Torch> this is the answer.
[01:38] <Torch> ncfi1013_: personally, i don't know and i don't care. i don't use skype.
[01:38] <ncfi1013_> i dont care if im on any ignore lists
[01:38] <ncfi1013_> im not being antagonistic
[01:40] <ncfi1013_> i dont spend time in chatrooms 24/7/365 like other people
[01:40] <ncfi1013_> i have a life
[06:22] <soee> do you know maybe why if i change file name i dolphin i have to refresh to see changes ?
[06:22] <soee> same goes with extracting files from archive etc
[08:03] <phoenix_firebrd> yofel_: does kde 4.8 beta 2 contain any bugs that lead to dataloss?
[08:04] <phoenix_firebrd> anyone using kde 4.8 beta2?
[08:06] <soee> phoenix_firebrd, me
[08:06] <soee> the only problem i suffer right now is hight cpu usage by virtuoso
[08:06] <soee> *high
[08:06] <phoenix_firebrd> soee: does it contain any bugs that lead to data loss?
[08:07] <soee> phoenix_firebrd, can't say so far all works really good except this virtuoso
[08:07] <phoenix_firebrd> soee: are you using nepomuk?
[08:08] <soee> phoenix_firebrd, yes
[08:08] <phoenix_firebrd> soee: does it finish indexing the entire system?
[08:08] <soee> now i have 50-60% cpu usage
[08:08] <soee> no its indexing
[08:09] <phoenix_firebrd> soee: it usually takes a lot of cpu
[08:09] <soee> but 60% ? :/
[08:09] <phoenix_firebrd> soee: i guess your's is a old cpu
[08:09] <soee> yeah pretty old
[08:10] <phoenix_firebrd> mine too
[08:10] <soee> intel core 2 duo
[08:10] <phoenix_firebrd> soee: he he, mine is too old, intel p4 ht
[08:10] <soee> ;D old good times... i remember my p166 mmx :D
[08:11] <phoenix_firebrd> soee: ya
[08:11] <soee> basicly is the only problem i have with 4.8
[08:11] <soee> but i wont back to 4.7
[08:12] <soee> on 4.8 system works much faster
[08:12] <soee> and smooter
[08:12] <phoenix_firebrd> soee: but in my brother's system which has intel i5 everthing seems to run normal, may be the software is optimized to multi threading
[08:13] <phoenix_firebrd> soee: in kde news , i came to know that more than 100 bugs were fixed in kde 4.8 rc1
[08:13] <phoenix_firebrd> soee: so we will see if it gets fixed in rc1
[08:13] <soee> well yeahthe version i have is rc i think
[08:13] <soee> 4.7.90
[08:13] <phoenix_firebrd> soee: installed from kubuntu beta ppa?
[08:13] <soee> yes
[08:14] <phoenix_firebrd> soee: thats beta 2
[08:14] <soee> but kde team released rc already right ?
[08:14] <phoenix_firebrd> soee: the rc1 version is 4.7.95
[08:15] <phoenix_firebrd> soee: http://kde.org/announcements/announce-4.8-rc1.php
[08:15] <soee> yup :)
[08:15] <soee> lets hope riddell will soon put rc1 into ppa
[08:16] <phoenix_firebrd> soee: thats yofel_ i think
[08:16] <soee> not this time i think
[08:16] <soee> https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/beta
[08:16] <soee> all uploads are Jonathans work
[08:18] <phoenix_firebrd> soee: thats right
[08:19] <lengau> Yeah, there was confirmation about 12 hours ago that Jonathan would be doing 4.7.95 as well.
[08:20] <phoenix_firebrd> lengau: good
[08:20] <phoenix_firebrd> lengau: do you know when will rc1 be released?
[08:20] <soee> sothere is a chance we get it this year ? :>
[08:21] <soee> i think rc1 will be much easier to put into ppa
[08:21] <soee> as there are only bugfixing
[08:22] <phoenix_firebrd> soee: how long its been since beta 2 was released?
[08:22] <soee> by kde team?
[08:22] <soee> it was 6/7 decemeber i think
[08:22] <phoenix_firebrd> soee: no by kubuntu team
[08:23] <soee> 1/2 days :)
[08:23] <phoenix_firebrd> soee: i think we can expect rc1 by second week of jan 2012
[08:24] <soee> maybe, anyway its worth waiting
[08:24] <phoenix_firebrd> soee: ya
[08:25] <phoenix_firebrd> soee: i going for the beta 2, see you
[08:26] <lengau> phoenix_firebird No idea. I just saw that he was doing it. The real time killer is always the first in a cycle. After that you sorta know where everything goes.
[08:28] <phoenix_firebrd> lengau: ya
[08:39] <linkan-36> Hi! I want to use Firefox 9.0.1 and I downloaded a tar file from mozilla.com but where do I extract the files? And do I ned to use sudo?
[08:41] <Tm_T> linkan-36: is there some particular reason you don't want to use distro-packaged version?
[08:43] <linkan-36> It's only version 8.0 and I have some problem with that on a homepage (sverigesradio.se).
[08:43] <Tm_T> !firefox
[08:44] <Tm_T> linkan-36: see the first link (:
[08:46] <soee> linkan-36, you can add mozillas security-ppa
[08:47] <soee> and it will update your FF
[08:48] <FloodBotK1> !netsplit
[10:33] <Ruedii> Does anyone know where I can look up the boot options for the Radeon chipset drivers?  KMS keeps setting the wrong output on my new motherboard.
[11:12] <Riddell> hmm?
[11:59] <letrec> it seems like some of KDE processes cause xorg virtual memory to grow unreasonably, so I have to restart X once a day
[11:59] <letrec> if I kill kwin it drops
[11:59] <letrec> can it be a cause of the leak?
[12:00] <letrec> it feels a bit win95'ish
[12:01] <letrec> is it possible for a process to have 12 Gb allocated on a system with 2 Gb of memory and 2 Gb of swap?
[12:01] <Peace-> letrec: mmm
[12:02] <Peace-> letrec: intel video '
[12:02] <Peace-> ?
[12:03] <letrec> ATI
[12:04] <letrec> ati mobolity radeon x1350
[12:06] <soee> guys Ubuntu has now LightDM do we see something like that for Kubuntu ?
[12:11] <Peace-> letrec: i had that bug too with my intel
[12:11] <Peace-> letrec: kde version ?
[12:12] <letrec> 4.7.4
[12:13] <letrec> I'm having it since 4.7.1
[12:13] <letrec> after an update of Kubuntu from 11.04 to 11.10
[12:13] <Peace-> letrec: mm have tried to change driver ?
[12:13] <Peace-> letrec: now i have an ati xpress200
[12:13] <letrec> to which?
[12:13] <Peace-> and here seems everything good
[12:14] <Peace-> letrec: jokey-kde  run it
[12:14] <Peace-> if it says something you should be able to change driver if not :) well you have only fglx
[12:14] <Peace-> like choices
[12:14] <Peace-> you could fill a bug on kde bug page
[12:15] <letrec> I'm using the open source radeon one
[12:15] <letrec> proprietary doesn't support my card
[12:15] <Peace-> letrec: join in #kde or #plasma ask there
[12:16] <letrec> ok, thanks
[12:17] <kalessin_> \part
[13:06] <soee> just opend kmail
[13:07] <soee> do you have the same sometimes that 1 email is duplicated liek 2000 times ?
[13:38] <ucenik30> youjizz.com
[13:44] <soee> yofel, are there any work on 4.7.95 already ?
[13:50] <utente> hello, is this the help channel?
[14:23] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[14:27] <markus> moin
[14:53] <admiral0> hello
[14:53] <admiral0> where is the code for the kubuntu installer?
[14:55] <BluesKaj> admiral0, do you want to install kubuntu , if so then http://www.kubuntu.org/
[14:55] <admiral0> nope
[14:56] <admiral0> i want sources for the installer, so i steal your partition widget <trollface.jpg>
[14:57] <BluesKaj> admiral0, I have no idea what you mean
[14:57] <admiral0> i need some similar widget for a project i'm coding
[14:57] <qbit> isn't the installer named ubiquity?
[14:58] <qbit> enable src repo and get it
[14:58] <admiral0> so i wanted to know where SCM sources for ubiquity are
[14:58] <admiral0> i'm not on debian
[14:58] <admiral0> nor kubuntu
[14:58] <admiral0> nor dpkg distro
[14:58] <qbit> that I do not know
[14:58] <ucenik30> youjizz.com
[14:58] <Pici> admiral0: look on launchpad.net or packages.ubuntu.com
[14:59] <BluesKaj> then you're asking in the wrong channel, admiral0
[14:59] <admiral0> it's the kubuntu channel isn't it :P?
[14:59] <Pici> I think its an on-topic question.
[15:00] <qbit> https://launchpad.net/ubiquity    <- possible?
[15:01] <admiral0> qbit: thanks
[15:02] <BluesKaj> admiral0, or you could ask in #launchpad
[15:03] <soee> BluesKaj, are you already on 4.8 maybe ?
[15:03] <Pici> BluesKaj: its not a launchpad question.
[15:04] <admiral0> using bzr makes me a sad panda
[15:04] <admiral0> ...
[15:05] <julian38> hi all
[15:09] <BluesKaj> soee, yes , 4.8 Beta2
[15:10] <soee> BluesKaj, can you check something for me?
[15:10] <BluesKaj> Pici, so you'v defined what's a launchpad question and what's not ... must be nice to be so sure
[15:10] <BluesKaj> soe depends
[15:10] <BluesKaj> soee, ^
[15:10] <soee> if i open radiotray or  some audio player kmix starts to using ~40% cpu
[15:11] <soee> does kmix work fine for you?
[15:11] <BluesKaj> ok , hang on , soee
[15:11] <soee> if im right kde team updated kmix for separate apps volume control
[15:11] <soee> maybe this couse this problems
[15:12] <BluesKaj> soee, I don't use kmix for audio setup , alsamixer works best for me
[15:12] <soee> ah, ok
[15:12] <Pici> BluesKaj: He asked where the sources for ubiquity are.  That sounds like an (k)Ubuntu question to me.  Keep in mind that #launchpad is for the system that powers the bug/project tracker, for all intents and purposes its not really an Ubuntu channel.
[15:12] <BluesKaj> soee, and i don't use analog signals , strictly coax/spdif out
[15:13] <soee> BluesKaj, using kmail maybe ?
[15:13] <BluesKaj> no
[15:13] <soee> argh :)
[15:13] <BluesKaj> t-bird and gmail
[15:13] <BluesKaj> I gave up on kmail back on 9.10
[15:14] <soee> works pretty good except it duplicates 2 email like every 15 minutes
[15:14] <soee> *2 emails
[15:15] <soee> even if i delete them they will show after few minutes
[15:15] <soee> so if i wont cleat them every day i have like 500 copies of each
[15:15] <BluesKaj> soe , let me check alsmixer
[15:15] <soee> after week
[15:15] <soee> BluesKaj, ok
[15:20] <BluesKaj> alsamixer seems fine , and the audio is fine as well, soe
[15:20] <BluesKaj> soee,^
[15:21] <soee> BluesKaj, ok thank you
[15:22] <BluesKaj>  soee, to me kmail/kontact is so broken , it's not worth the grief :(
[15:23] <sithlord48> who would i report a dolphin request (regression) to ?
[15:23] <sithlord48> i.e the removal of the "rename inline" option..
[15:25] <Torch> sithlord48: file a wishlist entry on bugs.kde.org
[15:25] <Torch> sithlord48: make sure there isn't one already before doing so
[15:26] <phoenix_firebrd> where can i find the changelog of kde 4.7
[15:26] <phoenix_firebrd> where can i find the changelog of kde 4.7.95
[15:26] <sithlord48> but is it wishlist or regression? cause it there in the kde 4.7.4 version of dolphin
[15:27] <Torch> phoenix_firebrd: http://kde.org/announcements/4.7/ is the announcement with additional links
[15:27] <Torch> phoenix_firebrd: KDE usually do not publish detailed changelogs, or at least not compelte ones
[15:28] <Torch> sithlord48: if it has been removed on purpose it's a wishlist entry
[15:28] <Torch> sithlord48: i don't know if that is the case
[15:28] <sithlord48> neither do i , i don't see why it would be removed
[15:28] <phoenix_firebrd> Torch: i know, but atleast i can see the important ones
[15:28] <Torch> sithlord48: well, there was a setting for it. is it gone?
[15:29] <phoenix_firebrd> Torch: i mean kde 4.7.95
[15:29] <Torch> phoenix_firebrd: errr.... you should have said so.
[15:29] <phoenix_firebrd> Torch: sorry
[15:29] <sithlord48> torch, its just not there anymore.
[15:30] <sithlord48> dialog for rename makes me a sad panda :(
[15:30] <Torch> sithlord48: my guess would be the feature has been removed.
[15:30] <schnelle> sithlord48:  dolphin  is rewriten for kde 4.8. So at the moment it lacks some features
[15:30] <phoenix_firebrd> Torch: i cant find the changelog of 4.7.95 in the anouncement
[15:30] <schnelle> http://ppenz.blogspot.com/2011/08/introducing-dolphin-20.html
[15:31] <phoenix_firebrd> in 4.8 beta 2 dolphin is buggy
[15:32] <sithlord48> idk is working here. most of my buggy is in the effects. but i have crappy intel gfx card in this netbook
[15:34] <sithlord48> schnelle:  i don't see in there any mention about rename inline, you think its just not finished because of the new view code?
[15:35] <schnelle> sithlord48: yes, but maybe it's better to file bug/wish on bug.kde.org against dolphin
[15:36] <schnelle> just to be sure :)
[15:36] <sithlord48> im working on it..
[15:40] <sithlord48> ok its been done
[16:52] <letrec> would it be possible to backport polkit-qt-1 0.103.0+ into 11.10?
[16:52] <letrec> it seems to fix quite annoying memory leak bug https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=271934#c43
[16:54] <letrec> ubottu: it's fixed, but it's not in Kubuntu repos, is there any way for it to get there?
[16:54] <letrec> :)
[16:55] <schnelle_> letrec: ask in #kubuntu-devel
[16:55] <schnelle_> :)
[16:55] <sebo> #pardus
[17:00] <sliv> h
[17:10] <iEatChildren> this seems pretty simple yet im not figuring it out. my laptop is picking up a few wireless networks but i have no idea how to connect to them
[17:15] <sebo> pardus pardus
[17:39] <srqtbqg> good evening
[17:40] <srqtbqg> i would like to update from kubuntu 11.04 to 11.10 but the update is not proposed in kpackagekit
[17:40] <srqtbqg> is that a known problem?
[17:52] <bbeck> srqtbqg: The instructions here:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OneiricUpgrades/Kubuntu  did not work for you?
[17:53] <bretzel> Hi, is it possible to try KDE4.8beta beside 4.7 ?
[17:56] <Peace-> bretzel: guess no
[17:57] <who_me> the packages in the kubuntu ppa are meant to replace 4.7
[17:57] <who_me> that is what installing them did on my machine...
[17:59] <bretzel> who_me: thank you for your hint :-) saving  me from destruction of my Kubuntu installation.
[17:59] <srqtbqg> bbeck: no, the upgrade is not displayed
[18:00] <who_me> ugh, "upgrading" did not do any damage here, but ymmv :)
[18:00] <Peace-> ymmv?
[18:00] <who_me> your mileage may vary :)
[18:01] <srqtbqg> when i run update-manager -d, 11.10 is displayed but i get a warning "this is a release candidate", really weird :-o
[18:01] <who_me> which basically means that it may fudge your install or it may not...
[18:02] <bretzel> who_me: no, I am using KDevelop and need sane env. so prefer to test kde 4.8b2 on a virtual env tho.
[18:05] <who_me> well, it's a testing install anyway for me *pats his LTS install*
[18:26] <sebo> pardus
[18:26] <sebo> illaki pardus
[18:27] <genii-around> !tr | sebo
[18:32] <fully_human> Hello.  For the past few updates of KDE the window manager has been really screwy.  For instance, when I try to hit "maximize" the window just sits there, and if I hit it again, it maximizes finally.  As another example, when I have a window (A) open and I open another window (B), they automatically go side-by side.  Is all this a bug or a feature?
[18:34] <TheBuntu> I have a 16 gig usb stick i wanna install kubuntu on. untill i get the 2nd hdd for this pc... Is 16 gig enough space?
[18:34] <Tech-1> sebo:  you pulled that crap yesterday in #ubuntu, take it some where else.
[18:35] <fully_human> TheBuntu: Pleanty.  I can install ubuntu on 8G just fine.
[18:35] <fully_human> TheBuntu: Of course, that depends on how many movies, songs, or docs you want on it. :)
[18:35] <Tech-1> Yeah TheBuntu  its plenty
[18:36] <Tech-1> TheBuntu:  use unetbootin to put it on the usb
[18:36] <fully_human> Used to be talking about gigabytes was cutting edge. :)
[18:37] <TheBuntu> fully_human, Ok thanks... Video's stay on hdd... Sence its a rent to owen pc... I gona get a usb harddrive.... its 1 of the HP all in ones
[18:38] <TheBuntu> Tech-1, i was going to put it on thev usb just like installing to the hdd
[18:38] <Tech-1> ok
[18:39] <fully_human> Hello.  For the past few updates of KDE the window manager has been really screwy.  For instance, when I try to hit "maximize" the window just sits there, and if I hit it again, it maximizes finally.  As another example, when I have a window (A) open and I open another window (B), they automatically go side-by side.  Is all this a bug or a feature?
[18:45]  * fully_human is away: Gone away for now
[18:47]  * fully_human is back.
[18:48] <schnelle> fully_human: you can reset kwin to its defaults
[18:49] <schnelle> delete ~/.kde/share/config/kwinrc file
[18:49] <schnelle> and then alt+f2 and type kwin --replace
[18:50] <schnelle> that way you will be back to kwin defaults and you can configure it to your needs again
[18:50] <fully_human> Thanks.
[18:50] <fully_human> I'll have to try it a while to see if it works. :/
[18:51] <fully_human> Yup, thanks.
[18:51] <jxrgx> hi all
[18:52] <jxrgx> I have a problem with my ipad and amarok. The system detects the ipod but not appear inside amarok although in other computer with the same settings is working fine
[18:53] <jxrgx> any idea?
[19:06] <jxrgx> Don't appear nothing about ipod in local collection
[19:12] <jxrgx> any help please?
[19:14] <Peace-> !ipod
[19:16] <Combatjuan> Is it possible to set up global shortcut keybindings in KDE that differentiate 'numpad-1' and '1'?  When I try and make a keybinding to Meta-Numpad5, it just makes it bound to Meta-5.
[19:21] <toumbo> Hi guys!!It is okay to activate backport updates through muon;
[19:21] <toumbo> ?
[19:22] <genii-around> toumbo: Yes
[19:22] <srqtbqg> !quit
[19:23] <toumbo> genii-around:And how about "proposed"?
[19:24] <jxrgx> Peace-: I have delete config files but nothing. Appear the notification in kde but nothing in amarok
[19:24] <Tech-1> no praposed
[19:24] <genii-around> toumbo: The "proposed" packages may not be stable
[19:24] <genii-around> ( so at your own risk )
[19:25] <toumbo> Ok thanks for the advice!!!!!!!!
[19:25] <Peace-> jxrgx: i am sorry i have not apple stuff :) i have only linked the tutorial
[19:25] <SunTsu> toumbo: another advice: use less exclamation marks ;)
[19:25] <Peace-> jxrgx:  i would suggest to do this : open a terminal
[19:25] <Peace-> jxrgx: plug in the usb
[19:25] <toumbo> SunTsu:Okay! :)
[19:26] <Peace-> jxrgx: lsusb | grep -i apple
[19:26] <Peace-> and search on google
[19:26] <jxrgx> Peace-: yes, I have that entry
[19:26] <jxrgx> the strange thing is that in other computer with the same system is working fine
[19:27]  * fully_human is away: Gone away for now
[19:28] <SunTsu> jxrgx: you see those bus/device numbers in front? See if /dev/bus/usb/<bus>/<device> according to lsusb has the right permissions which allow you to use it
[19:30] <jxrgx> SunTsu: crw-rw-r--
[19:30] <jxrgx> SunTsu: are that right?
[19:30]  * fully_human is back.
[19:30] <SunTsu> jxrgx: depends on the owner
[19:30] <jxrgx> SunTsu: root
[19:31] <SunTsu> jxrgx: please, just paste the whole line, makes it faster for both of us and shorter
[19:31] <jxrgx> Bus 001 Device 004: ID 05ac:1303 Apple, Inc.
[19:31] <jxrgx> crw-rw-r-- 1 root root 189, 3 2011-12-23 20:23 /dev/bus/usb/001/004
[19:32] <SunTsu> jxrgx: there you have it, you may read it, but you may not write to it, therefore you can't use it. You need to tell devfs to give that file to you
[19:33] <SunTsu> jxrgx: You are neither user root, not in group root, I assume, therefore you are others, which means read access only
[19:33] <jxrgx> SunTsu: yes
[19:33] <jxrgx> SunTsu: I have to give w access to others?
[19:35] <SunTsu> jxrgx: you could do that, on a single user system, though I'd advise to use udev to give that file to your user
[19:36] <SunTsu> jxrgx: http://reactivated.net/writing_udev_rules.html
[19:38] <jxrgx> SunTsu: OK, thank you, I will try with udev
[19:38] <SunTsu> jxrgx: if you're lazy just skip to the example section ;)
[19:39] <jxrgx> SunTsu:  it looks like a bit difficult ;)
[19:42] <SunTsu> jxrgx: it's not. the cd drive example does what you want
[19:43] <SunTsu> jxrgx: except that symlink part
[19:51] <jxrgx> SunTsu: but with KERNEL is always for the same usb port or for all?
[19:52]  * fully_human is away: Gone away for now
[19:52] <SunTsu> fully_human: please turn that off, it's annoying
[19:54] <SunTsu> jxrgx: it's a match, see http://reactivated.net/writing_udev_rules.html#hierarchy
[19:57] <jxrgx> SunTsu: I can filter then through ID_MODEL = ipod
[19:57]  * fully_human is back.
[19:58] <SunTsu> !away | fully_human
[19:59] <fully_human> SunTsu: Sorry, thought I fixed it.  Kontact doesn't have that setting, I guess.
[20:04] <bdizzle> hi, I wa wondering if anyone knew how to set a video as their desktop background?
[20:04] <bdizzle> or where I might go to pull that off?
[20:04] <sebo> http://img6.imagebanana.com/img/ox9o17mi/EkranGoruntusu20111223215811.png ubuntu buna dayanamıyo
[20:04] <sebo> kasıyor
[20:05] <bdizzle> huh?
[20:12] <sebo> 3d brogramlara dayanamıyo nedendir açaba?
[20:13] <jxrgx> SunTsu: thanks so much for the interesting info and documentation
[20:15] <genii-around> !tr | sebo
[20:15] <sebo> olur çanım
[20:19] <M41nFr4m3> hi
[20:19] <M41nFr4m3> is anyone available?
[20:19] <M41nFr4m3> im on kubuntu 10.04  i am having EXTREME difficulties gettting flash in Chromium AND Firefox. Chromium- i go to youtube and it says i do NOT have flash installed but, i go to adobe and it says that i DO. Firefox- nothing seems to work to get flash working
[20:20] <M41nFr4m3> i have NOT installed flash for chromium manually beccause it wont let me
[20:20] <M41nFr4m3> Chromium is a new install too
[20:26] <Peace-> !flash
[20:26] <Peace-> !restricted
[20:34] <afief> How can I tell Kubuntu to mount my ntfs partition without noexec?
[20:43] <BluesKaj> M41nFr4m3, download flash from adobe , extract the file , then copy the libflashplayer.so to /usr/lib/mozoilla/plugins with root permissions
[21:51] <w30> Is it possible to put my bootloader on sda6, where my kubuntu is, after I have already installed kubuntu on sda6?
[21:51] <w30> I have a kubuntu bootloader on mbr now.
[21:53] <w30> If so? What's the syntax ? grub-install what???
[21:54] <w30> I can't get grub to work with /dev/sda6 or /dev/UUID......
[21:55] <w30> I was just getting the hang of Grub1 and now I have grub2
[21:55] <w30> I'm completely lost
[21:56] <EvilResistance> w30:  perhaps you should talk to the grub people then...
[21:56] <w30> I've always ben lost, but, now more so.
[21:56] <EvilResistance> w30:  grub1 doesnt work with the newest versions of Ubuntu/Win7 (for dual booters) so...
[21:57] <w30> EvilResistance, grub1 is gone I have grub2 on everything now
[21:57] <EvilResistance> w30:  indeed.  that's as it should be.
[21:57] <EvilResistance> w30:  you'd have to redefine which partition has the boot flag...
[21:57] <w30> EvilResistance, I want grub2 on the same partition as my install
[21:57] <EvilResistance> after installing grub on the partition you want...
[21:58] <EvilResistance> w30:  i'm not a grub expert, i do know that once you install GRUB on the same partition as your install you need to reassign the boot flag for the drive to that partition.
[21:58] <EvilResistance> you might ask the grub channel for help...
[21:58] <EvilResistance> which is in #grub
[21:58] <EvilResistance> or you could *try* grub-install /dev/sda6
[21:58] <EvilResistance> not sure how successful you'll be though
[21:59]  * EvilResistance always has the /boot/ on another partition
[21:59] <w30> EvilResistance, I want to chainload from grub2 on mbr to each partition bootloader for two linux installs one on sda7 and one on sda6
[22:00] <EvilResistance> w30:  i'm assuming you dont read when i say i'm not a grub expert
[22:00] <EvilResistance> chainloading is past my skillset
[22:00] <w30> I got sda7 fixed up during it's install but didn't do it for sda6\
[22:02] <w30> I would hate to have to reinstall kubuntu after all the re-configuring I have invested, I know, I shoulda done it right away. I am stupid and dumb and ignorant.
[22:03] <w30> and them are my good points
[22:04] <w30> *sniffle* *pity party*
[22:06] <w30> EvilResistance, grub-install says nope! it needs block numbers but it admits that block numbers is not reliable for grub2
[22:07] <w30> Is there such a thing as a mbr on each partition?
[22:07] <EvilResistance> no there's a MBR on the entire drive
[22:07] <EvilResistance> not each partition
[22:07] <EvilResistance> iirc
[22:07] <w30> EvilResistance, ok
[22:10] <KjetilK> Bug #865032 says there is a fix released, how do I get that fix?
[22:11] <w30> EvilResistance, Linux is wonderful in that it is entirely configurable but it's awful in that you have to have a deep skill set in whatever you want to muck with.
[22:11] <EvilResistance> :P
[22:11] <EvilResistance> KjetilK:  "Fix Released" probably means its in the next version of digikam
[22:12] <w30> and a deep skill set in one area doesn't transfer to another.
[22:12] <EvilResistance> w30:  unless you have the deep skill sets in both areas ;P
[22:12] <KjetilK> EvilResistance, oh, so it won't be fixed for Oneiric?
[22:13] <EvilResistance> KjetilK:  i'm not sure for which version of *ubuntu will have the fixed version of digikam
[22:13] <EvilResistance> KjetilK:  if you want i'll dig in its source package, see if I can find where the fix is released
[22:13] <EvilResistance> no guarantees
[22:13] <KjetilK> EvilResistance, would be really nice!
[22:15] <EvilResistance> KjetilK:  i'm scanning through the source packages, no mention of fixed code in the changelogs...
[22:15] <EvilResistance> KjetilK:  it might not yet be in the updated packages in Precise
[22:15] <EvilResistance> (which is probably where it would be)
[22:15] <KjetilK> OK
[22:16] <KjetilK> that kind of bug really makes me sad
[22:17] <KjetilK> the problem appears to have been known well in advance of release, and it appears to have been done to get a new feature in, thus removing very important basic functionality...
[22:17] <EvilResistance> KjetilK:  you might want to ask a question against the package about when that bug fix will appear in packages
[22:17] <KjetilK> yeah, I'll try
[22:18] <EvilResistance> for all i know it could already be in the packages, but its not like i'm going to recursively grep through thousands of changelog entries to find where they fixed the bug
[22:18] <EvilResistance> i dont have unlimited resoures/time ;P
[22:18] <KjetilK> :-)
[22:18] <EvilResistance> the last package source update was in Precise, over 13 days ago, so...
[22:18] <EvilResistance> *shrugs*
[22:18] <EvilResistance> and even then, if you really wanted that in older versions, you'd either have to have someone backport it for you...
[22:19] <EvilResistance> or backport it yourself
[22:20] <KjetilK> yeah
[22:21] <KjetilK> I suppose I could use the PPA referenced in that bug
[22:21] <KjetilK> I don't need bleeding edge, I need stable leading edge :-)
[22:21] <EvilResistance> :P
[22:21] <EvilResistance> it probly was released in the PPA :P
[22:21] <KjetilK> which is why I'm not using Debian on this particular box
[22:22] <KjetilK> Ubuntu used to be something between Debian Stable and Debian Testing, but nowadays, I experience too many bugs and crashes
[22:24] <KjetilK> oh well, I should be fixing bugs in my own code and not sit here and complain :-)
[22:25] <EvilResistance> :P