[00:05] <PhireB0mb3r> Neosano: Thank you. I have it all setup. It's all purdy now.
[00:07] <Neosano> PhireB0mb3r, I'm glad it worked for you ;)
[00:33] <onewey> Updated from Natty Narwhal to Oneiric Ocelot and closing the lid wouldn't suspend the machine. Ran xfce4-power-manager-settings to re-enable those options. Works well now.
[00:38]  * wxl testing out a new term on the phone
[01:40] <dustman> hi
[01:41] <dustman> I got strange mouse behavior: cursor 'jumps' around once in awhile, mostly when a new program starts, even when it happens at another workspace
[01:41] <dustman> but sometimes I can't see any reasons for such behavior
[01:42] <dustman> plus mouse can cede to respond to clicks while responding to movement
[01:43] <dustman> is it something inherent to lubuntu, openbox or hardware?
[01:44] <dustman> yeah, ps/2 mouse would function strangely once in awhile by simply refusing to respond, and usb mouse should be plugged/unplugged
[01:45] <dustman> latter behavior was visible in ubuntu 11.10 as well
[01:45] <dustman> now it's Lubuntu 11.10 fresh install + updates
[01:48] <phillw> dustman: is it a traditional rodent (with a ball in) or an optical rodent?
[01:48] <dustman> optical
[01:49] <dustman> mouse mat is quite uneven, especially with cats using it as a bed
[01:50] <phillw> around the raised area on the base, where the LED is, ensure there is not a build up of 'gunk' (you know, that semi sticky goo that is dust), also check the rat-mat is also clean. I was suprised at just how much muck can affect an optical mouse!
[01:51] <phillw> maybe buy the cats a bed? I know we call them rat-mats... but cat-mats?
[01:52] <dustman> sure, they got couple already
[01:52] <dustman> just follow me everywhere
[01:52] <dustman> and just checked, LEDs are completely clean
[01:54] <dustman> I had this jumping behaviour on other systems when using reflecting surfaces with an optical mouse, but here is bit different and unexpected
[01:54] <dustman> plus it's rather new
[03:34] <jmichaelx> so, i know opinions here will be biased, but are there people here who would recommend (or are happy with) lubuntu as a netbook OS?
[03:37] <jmichaelx> i am wanting to re-do my dell mini 9, which is still running lucid UNR
[04:17] <holstein> jmichaelx: you can try it live
[04:17] <holstein> i find it light and elegant
[04:17] <jmichaelx> holstein: tyvm for your input :)
[04:17] <holstein> the UI wont be for everyone of course, but lubuntu is built on ubuntu, so you can switch to any of the other variants easy
[04:35] <PhireB0mb3r> I'm late to this, but I prefer Lubuntu over UNR. It feels so much smoother on my Acer Aspire One.
[04:36] <PhireB0mb3r> jmichaelx: you don't have to 're-do' it. Install the lubuntu packages and set LXDE as your default wm. That's what I did on my AAO.
[04:37] <jmichaelx> PhireB0mb3r: well, i am redoing due to the fact that i have acquired a new SSD, and also due to wanting to move to oneiric
[04:37] <holstein> ubuntu netbook remix is dead AFAIK
[04:38] <jmichaelx> yes, i stayed with UNR out of hatred for unity
[04:38] <PhireB0mb3r> jmichaelx: Ah. I like it and a co-worker told me about it. I never knew about LXDE or Lubuntu till he told me a few months ago. I hope you enjoy it as much as I have been enjoying it for my netbook OS.
[04:39] <jmichaelx> PhireB0mb3r: ty, i think it's what i am going to go with
[04:39] <holstein> i ran full ubuntu on my netbook.. with compiz ;)
[04:39] <holstein> that was an EEE900 too... i find lubuntu to be peppy on it now though
[04:40] <PhireB0mb3r> I first ran Kubuntu + compiz, then went to UNR, and now on Lubuntu.
[04:45] <PhireB0mb3r> jmichaelx: How big is your SSD?
[04:45] <jmichaelx> PhireB0mb3r: the original is 8GB, i am going to be installing a (used) 16GB SSD
[04:46] <jmichaelx> maybe i won't even do it... i bought another mini 9 on craiglist, intending to re-sell it. i thought i might first swap SSDs.
[04:47] <jmichaelx> the mini 9 i just bought had win7 home premium installed on it, for deities' sakes
[04:49] <PhireB0mb3r> I bought a nettop and left the Win7 OS on there, but dual-boot to Kubuntu 11.10
[04:50] <PhireB0mb3r> Which reminds me. I've not used it in a very long, long time. I should do something with it.
[04:50] <jmichaelx> PhireB0mb3r: i have 2 nettops, one home-made and the other a jetway.... love them both. they are my main PCs
[04:50] <PhireB0mb3r> I have it connected in my room to my TV.
[04:50] <jmichaelx> both running kubuntu
[04:51] <PhireB0mb3r> 2 desktops (kubuntu), 1 home server (ubuntu), 2 laptops (kubuntu), 1 nettop (kubuntu), 1 netbook (lubuntu)
[04:52] <PhireB0mb3r> I was recently gifted another laptop, which may need a new mobo, so that will add to the mix.
[04:54] <jmichaelx> i tend to accumulate computers
[04:54] <jmichaelx> well, 'tend' is an understatement
[04:56] <PhireB0mb3r> hahaha
[04:56] <PhireB0mb3r> jmichaelx: Still have those old computers?
[04:56]  * jmichaelx has LOTS of old computers
[05:09] <OccTorFoodies> hello!
[05:09] <OccTorFoodies> has anyone installed lubuntu to a USB drive?
[05:10] <OccTorFoodies> i am wondering how to get grub boot loader on my USB key? doing it thru the install no workie
[05:10] <phiscribe> whats that thing called, netbootin or something
[05:11] <phiscribe> unetbooting
[05:11] <phiscribe> http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/
[05:12] <phiscribe> that was for u OccTorFoodies
[05:12] <OccTorFoodies> ty reading now
[05:14] <phiscribe> what im not sure if that can do is make a persistant usb install, it makes a live usb, like a live cd
[05:15] <OccTorFoodies> yes.. im a little bit past that... im trying to load grub onto the USB phiscribe ... any idea how to do that?
[05:15] <OccTorFoodies> everything else in install worked
[05:15] <OccTorFoodies> but could not write grub to the stick...
[05:15] <phiscribe> what was the error
[05:16] <OccTorFoodies> "fatal" when i tried to tell it "/dev/sbd1"
[05:16] <OccTorFoodies> which was the right drivepath for the stick
[05:18] <phiscribe> whwats fdisk -l look like
[05:18] <OccTorFoodies> 3 partisiotns
[05:18] <OccTorFoodies> 1 ext2 mounted at "/"
[05:19] <OccTorFoodies> 2 ext4 mounted at /home
[05:19] <OccTorFoodies> 3 swap
[05:19] <OccTorFoodies> 3gb/3gb/1.7gb
[05:23] <phiscribe> are you wanting grub in the master boot record?
[05:24] <phiscribe> im so rusty in grub i sqeeke, but for the mbr, it seems you want to use the device /sbd not the partition /sbd1
[05:28] <OccTorFoodies> no, i dont want grub on the MBR of HDD, i want grub on USB stick
[05:30] <phiscribe> mbr of the usb stickj
[05:31] <phiscribe> or exernal drive
[05:31] <OccTorFoodies> well i tried /dev/sbd as well ?
[05:31] <phiscribe> http://www.freesoftwaremagazine.com/articles/grub_intro
[06:05] <lala_> hello, i want to make up a fast realtime audio machine - is there a realtime low latency kernel for lubuntu?
[06:07] <phiscribe> lemme think
[06:10] <phiscribe> ive not ran into one for lubunut, ubuntu yes
[06:10] <phiscribe> probably have to complie it
[06:11] <phiscribe> try apt-cache search linux-rt
[06:11] <phiscribe> or think about ubuntu studio versions
[06:12] <phiscribe> thats for lala_ that is
[06:12] <lala_> merci
[06:12] <lala_> i will try
[18:08] <Na_Klar> how much disk space takes a fresh lubuntu 11.10 installation?
[18:08] <Na_Klar> ca.
[18:08] <wxl> i think you can get away with 4gb
[18:08] <xsaidx> Na_Klar: not sure but less then 9GB
[18:08] <xsaidx> :D
[18:09] <wxl> ooh  1gb
[18:09] <wxl> http://www.pendrivelinux.com/put-lubuntu-on-a-flash-drive-using-windows/
[18:09] <Na_Klar> okay, that's a guideline value ... thanks
[18:09] <wxl> well i guess 2gb realisticallyo
[18:10] <wxl> that 1gb assumes no persistence which if you're talking about a hd install isn't really practical
[18:10] <xsaidx> wxl: i cant send some files to my site ikeep getting errors any idea why
[18:10] <xsaidx> wxl: and just those files while ican send other
[18:10] <xsaidx> others*
[18:11] <wxl> no idea
[18:11] <wxl> not clear enough xsaidx
[18:12] <xsaidx> wxl: i wan to send some files with ftp client ( filezilla) and for only these files i keep gettin delay expired , transfer failed while if i try any other file it ll go fast
[18:13] <dustman> Na_Klar: there's minimal install option as well
[18:14] <wxl> xsaidx: so is it a size limit you're hitting? i would say you need to look at client/server settings and not at lubuntu for your problem.
[18:14] <wxl> …unless you can rule everything else out
[18:15] <xsaidx> wxl: yeh i kno its lubuntu i jsut wanna ask some experiment people on here : ]
[18:15] <wxl> xsaidx: is this YOUR server?
[18:16] <xsaidx> wxl: no its mutual
[18:16] <wxl> what does that mean?
[18:17] <xsaidx> it means im jsut hosted on machine where other sites are installed
[18:17] <wxl> so you have no control over the ftp server settings?
[18:17] <xsaidx> wxl: well virtual host thats what companies use to provide such hostin
[18:17] <xsaidx> wxl: yeh
[18:18] <wxl> xsaidx: http://wiki.filezilla-project.org/Network_Configuration#Timeouts_on_large_files
[18:18] <wxl> we need to teach you how to use google
[18:18] <xsaidx> wxl: haha no you seem didnt get my issue im havin problem with file A while i can easily send file B
[18:19] <wxl> that is exactly what that is about
[18:19] <wxl> some files work, others don't
[18:20] <xsaidx> wxl: and there no big size in all of em ; ]
[18:20] <wxl> xsaidx: try #filezilla
[18:20] <xsaidx> wxl: ok thanks ; ]
[21:22] <aladds> how do i launch the installer from the alternate install cd? I'm used to it starting itself
[21:23] <aladds> it just drops me to a shell
[21:25] <bioterror> should launch
[21:25] <aladds> i tried it twice
[21:25] <aladds> i can switch virtual consoles etc.
[21:25] <aladds> but i can't find the installer on any of them
[21:26] <aladds> oh, never mind. I see what I did wrong
[21:27] <aladds> (bios wasn't detecting my usb keyboard so i was waiting for the timeout. I just dug out a ps/2 keyboard and it turns out that the default option isn't install)
[22:37] <Blackmoon> hi i've got this error message in dmesg : `init: lxdm main process  terminated with status 1`
[22:41] <Blackmoon> no ones?
[22:49] <Unit193> I didn't see a question, but this has the same error in it if you wanted me to randomly guess http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1860720
[23:01] <Blackmoon> the question is how can i remove this error and start lxdm
[23:02] <Unit193> Is this a LiveCD, install? What version? Did it work before?
[23:09] <Unit193> Please see Bug #854837 and try typing    startlubuntu