[02:47] <Amapele> If I specify a clear text password on a command in a bash script, how can I be sure that it won't be recorded somewhere?  I am under the impression that the ps command can capture such text.
[03:30] <mutes> it can, youre fucked
[04:15] <holstein> mutes: check out the channel guidelines
[04:15] <urlin2u> holstein, happy holidays.:D
[04:15] <holstein> urlin2u: o/ ... same to you and yours!
[04:28] <mutes> i knew the answer and replied as soon as i could
[04:28] <holstein> mutes: sure, and we appreciate it, just remember this is a 'family show'
[04:30] <mutes> psh
[04:30] <mutes> nobody who uses linux isnt sterile
[04:31] <holstein> mutes: its just ubuntu channel guidelines man, its not a big deal... would you like a link?
[04:31] <mutes> im just carrying on a conversation, not making a big deal of it
[04:31] <mutes> man
[04:50] <wildcrazyhorse> My Ubuntu 11.04 Natty is locking up my computer often. The screen freezes but the mouse still moves around. I have to cold reboot the computer and start all over again. What can I do to fix this problem?
[04:53] <mutes> upgrade to oneiric
[04:54] <wildcrazyhorse> do you have a url address of that file oneiric ?
[04:54] <holstein> wildcrazyhorse: you could look and see if you have an older kernel in your grub list, and try booting it
[04:54] <holstein> wildcrazyhorse: oneiric is ubuntu 11.10
[04:55] <wildcrazyhorse> let me go to ubuntu web site and see if I can find that file...  Will I be able to upgrade and not loose any of my apps or data?
[04:56] <holstein> wildcrazyhorse: theres not a file named oneiric... thats the next version of ubuntu after yours... 11.10
[04:57] <holstein> wildcrazyhorse: you can try it live *before* upgrading or installing
[04:57] <holstein> you can also try an older kernel in 11.04
[07:45] <mlinscott> Hiya, quick question. Is it normal to see oneiric branding after upgrading to precise? I ran update-manager -d, upgraded to 12.04 but noticed on the restart that the login screen and like show 11.10. I did check apt/source.list and it shows it pointing to the precise sources. So something that can be ignored right?
[07:45] <bioterror> uname -cd
[07:45] <bioterror> what does it say?
[07:45] <bioterror> sorry
[07:45] <bioterror> lsb_release -cd
[07:46] <bioterror> did I remember right :D
[07:46] <mlinscott> Description:	Ubuntu precise (development branch)
[07:46] <mlinscott> Codename:	precise
[07:46] <bioterror> you're running precise
[07:46] <bioterror> so edit your sources and remove anything that points to oneirc
[07:47] <mlinscott> •bioterror• awesome thanks! Just wanted to make sure I didn't botch an upgrade.
[07:47] <bioterror> it's pretty hard to botch an upgrade ;)
[07:48] <Unit193> It's normal too, nothing really new :P
[08:44] <r4y> I have a neat RCA mp3 played I got from Walmart for 25 dollars that can hold 4 GB, I am wondering if I can make playlists out of songs in folders without having to the Windows software that came with it and without put the same song on it twice so I can save space
[08:47] <r4y> I'd like to delete the software that came with it which I don't want to use. That software wasn't needed for me to have albums of info put onto it. It works great. If I can't make playlists that's fine with me.
[08:48] <r4y> I tried making symbolic links but the device doesn't support it.
[08:50] <r4y> I am checking it to see what the format is.
[08:51] <r4y> Fat 32-bit, W9 Fat32 (0x0b)
[08:53] <r4y> I don't have experience with mp3 players. Do you know perhaps if I can change the format so I can make symbolic links, or maybe I that will not work
[08:53] <r4y> I didn't mean to add that I to that last sentence
[08:54] <geirha> It probably only supports fat32
[08:54] <geirha> What's the format of the playlist files?
[08:54] <r4y> I haven't tried using the software to make playlists yet
[08:55] <r4y> I tried using wine, but I am going to have to use Windows XP to try it out
[08:55] <r4y> "rcaeasyRip_setup.exe"
[08:56] <r4y> Thank you for telling me that this mp3 might only support fat
[08:57] <r4y> Well, I guess I should try it out on Windows XP for fun.
[08:58] <r4y> I am wondering if what I already put on it will be effected. I hope not, because I put some work into what's already on it, but there shouldn't be any problems because I can start over.
[08:59] <r4y> I guess I should back it up
[09:01] <r4y> I am wondering if I could mimic what the software does to make playlists and then make playlists myself instead and get rid of the software, but I will keep a couple backups, one on one hard drive and another hard drive just in case.
[09:01] <r4y> OK, that's all, sorry for posting so much
[20:10] <kristian-aalborg> grr, my internets are falling out
[20:12] <kristian-aalborg> I get the "Flow control is on for TX and on for RX" in dmesg, suggesting hardware problems (?)
[20:20] <visago> hello?
[20:22] <kristian-aalborg> hi visago
[20:22] <visago> hey
[20:25] <visago> how do i make a usb bootable for ubuntu?
[20:26] <nothingspecial> visago: Do you have ubuntu already?
[20:27] <visago> as an iso
[20:29] <nothingspecial> visago: if you have the latest version of Ubuntu, hit the 'windows'/'super' key then type U S B, choose usb-creator-gtk
[20:29] <nothingspecial> if you have windows use unetbootin http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/
[20:32] <kristian-aalborg> my internet breakage is weird, in that downloads and IRC are not affected, seemingly
[20:36] <visago> thank you trying it now
[22:37] <seidos> so network-manager isn't configuring wireless in 11.10 for some reason
[22:38] <seidos> had to configure it through the terminal
[22:40] <seidos> any ideas on how to fix it?  maybe i should just install 10.04, but i don't want to burn another cd
[22:41] <seidos> that would be such a waste of plastic >_> :D
[22:41] <seidos> der, didn't check the net
[22:48] <seidos> hmmm, looks like there's an update for nm
[23:30] <seidos> well, updates didn't seem to fix it...network-manager says "device not managed" under "wireless networks"
[23:30] <seidos> going to search the net
[23:33] <geirha> If the wireless devices is configured via /etc/network/interface,  network-manager will ignore it.
[23:58] <seidos> thanks geirha, that did it