[00:37] <Laney> broder: bet you're happy about UDS :-)
[00:38] <broder> i was initially disappointed about not getting to travel, but i'm over it now and pretty stoked
[00:38] <Laney> tour guide hat at the ready
[00:38] <broder> yep
[02:22] <ScottK> Be careful where you tour in Oakland.  You may not come back.
[02:29] <nigelb> Heh
[02:42] <broder> psh. it's cool - the hotel is right by the bart station, so the temptation to go into oakland is minimal
[02:44] <ScottK> That would be true BART station or not.
[04:31] <ScottK> broder: If you're still around, would you please sync unbound from unstable for me?
[05:21] <micahg> ScottK: I can sync unbound for you if you like
[05:21] <ScottK> micahg: Yes. Please.  syncpackage isn't working for me.
[05:21] <ScottK> I'm about to have a mess of security debdiffs too.
[05:22] <micahg> ScottK: well, I'll add this sync to that bug you opened so it has everything
[05:22] <ScottK> micahg: Great.  It's CVE-2011-4528
[05:22] <ScottK> Urg.
[05:22] <ScottK> Bug 907983
[05:28] <micahg> ScottK: done
[05:28] <ScottK> Thanks.
[05:28] <micahg> sorry, I haven't updated ubuntu-dev-tools to the version where it says in the bug who it's sponsored for
[05:28] <micahg> but you're in the precise-changes mail
[05:29]  * micahg knows you don't care about the paperwork :)
[05:30] <ScottK> No.
[05:30] <ScottK> But if you want to make it up to me you can upload the fix for lucid-security.
[05:31] <ScottK> (debdiff in the bug)
[05:31] <micahg> last time I tried that, I killed several hours and still didn't get it done, I"ll try to get someone to look at it in the morning though
[05:32] <ScottK> Thanks.
[05:43] <ScottK> micahg: If you have time, I'd appreciate it if you could look at oneiric for unbound.  There's a configure error where it can't find the python headers and I've no idea why (I think I'm just too tired)
[05:44] <micahg> ScottK: ok, will see if I have time
[05:44] <ScottK> Thanks.
[06:03] <micahg> ScottK: looks like a missing build-dep, works fine on a live system
[06:03] <ScottK> Weird.
[06:03] <ScottK> It build-depends on python-all-dev which was the first obvious choice.
[06:04] <ScottK> So that's not it.
[06:07] <ScottK> libpython2.6/2.7 are also pulled in.
[06:08]  * micahg is getting the chroot build log
[06:08] <ScottK> Missing -lssl
[06:08] <micahg> ah
[06:09] <ScottK> What about that?
[06:09]  * micahg is getting the chroot to not purge to check
[06:09] <ScottK> Dunno why that would work on a live system though.
[06:11] <micahg> BTW, the release version won't build either
[06:11] <micahg> I guess that's obvious considering the patch
[06:14] <micahg> wow, a whole bunch of stuff is broke
[06:15]  * micahg has no idea why this would work on a live system
[06:18] <ScottK> It built at one point.
[06:21] <micahg> in July when we had the autosync
[06:23] <micahg> not sure, it seems to think my installed python env is fine, but the chroot env is not
[06:24] <micahg> ah, it doesn't seem to be multiarch ready, but still that shouldn't work on the live system either unless I have some old hack installed
[06:26] <micahg> it also won't build twice in a row which is annoying, but that's for another discussion (happening on debian-devel)
[06:27] <ScottK> The next version (the one you just sync'ed over_ is multi-arched.
[06:28] <micahg> right
[06:28]  * ScottK is going to go to bed.
[06:28] <ScottK> Good night.
[06:29] <micahg> good night
[08:04] <dholbach> good morning
[08:10] <ajmitch> morning dholbach
[08:11] <dholbach> hi ajmitch
[09:56] <ondras> hi there
[09:58] <ondras> what can I do to get my packages to ubuntu? I already have a working PPA...
[10:20] <tumbleweed> ondras: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment/NewPackages
[10:21] <ondras> tumbleweed: ah, thanks!
[10:22] <ondras> tumbleweed: the bug should be filed even if the software is already packaged?
[10:22] <ondras> tumbleweed: with [needs packaging] prefix?
[10:36] <tumbleweed> ondras: did you miss the bit about going through debian?
[10:37] <tumbleweed> that really is the beast approach
[10:38] <ondras> yeah, I already sent them a RFS email
[10:38] <ondras> but according to #debian-mentors, this can take months or years
[10:38] <ondras> :/
[10:41] <tumbleweed> it's normally a lot faster than that
[10:41] <tumbleweed> what are you packaging?
[10:43] <ondras> tumbleweed: http://code.google.com/p/v8cgi/
[10:44] <ondras> (basically a wrapper around libv8 + several modules; somewhat similar to node.js but with different architecture/usage)
[10:45] <jporsini> tumbleweed, hum, I don't know what is the normal duration, but at least the package that I have submitted has taken ~2month to pass the debian ftpmaster step (and I was lucky to personnally know the debian sponsor which speedup a little bit the process)
[10:51] <tumbleweed> ondras: ah, that sounds like a non-trivial package
[10:51] <tumbleweed> jporsini: ftpmaster review is a lot faster than it used to be: http://ftp-master.debian.org/stat.html
[10:53] <jporsini> tumbleweed, yep, I was currently on this page, and you are right, it appears to be now very fast, definitively a good news, so forget my previous sentence:)
[10:53] <DktrKranz> just FTR, average time in Debian NEW during 2011 has been 3 days and 5 hours
[10:54] <ondras> tumbleweed: it is a multiple binary package, yes
[10:55] <ondras> tumbleweed: but it is a standalone software with basically no dependencies
[11:13] <tumbleweed> DktrKranz: and we appreciate it!
[11:35]  * Laney bakes DktrKranz a cake http://farm1.static.flickr.com/23/37895746_90c5c30ca9.jpg *
[11:35] <Laney> * disclaimer: I may not have baked that
[11:50] <jpds> Looks like cheese cake.
[11:52] <Laney> it does, and has put me right in the mood for some
[11:53]  * Laney eyes the build queues
[11:53]  * Laney goes to decorate the tree instead
[11:57] <geser> Laney: does this imply that you would have a undecorated tree if the build queues were empty?
[11:58]  * geser wonders if it's possible to deduce how full the build queues were from how much Laney decorated his tree?
[12:17] <Laney> geser: that is something we cannot know
[13:27] <mdeslaur> ScottK: I'm uploading your unbound fixes now, just as soon as I fix the oneiric ftbfs. I've added two more older cve fixes to the lucid package also.
[13:27] <ScottK> mdeslaur: OK.  I wasn't aware I'd missed any.  Thanks.
[13:28] <ScottK> mdeslaur: Please let me know what the solution is on oneiric once you sort it out.  It's got me confused.
[13:31] <mdeslaur> ScottK: I'm still poking at it...I suspect this is the fix: http://anonscm.debian.org/gitweb/?p=users/edmonds/unbound.git;a=commitdiff;h=650df562a19e196e9acbc4898559f2fa61a8d90e
[13:32] <mdeslaur> hrm, maybe not
[13:33] <ScottK> micahg said he got it to build on a non-minimal system, so it may just be a missing dependency.
[13:33]  * ScottK has NFC what though.
[13:34] <mdeslaur> huh
[13:36] <ScottK> [01:03:13] <micahg> ScottK: looks like a missing build-dep, works fine on a live system
[13:36] <ScottK> [01:03:32] <ScottK> Weird.
[13:36] <ScottK> Based on the failure though, I'm not sure how that's possible.
[13:39] <geser> is there a build log available somewhere?
[13:41] <ScottK> No, but just try to rebuild the oneiric unbound package.
[13:41] <ScottK> It dies pretty quickly in configure.
[13:41] <ScottK> Actually, i may have one
[13:43] <ScottK> I do.
[13:44] <ScottK> geser: http://kitterman.com/kubuntu/unbound.oneiric
[13:52] <mdeslaur> I think it's multiarch related, and I'm backporting a small change from the precise package
[13:55] <mdeslaur> hrm, that didn't work
[13:55]  * mdeslaur scratches head
[14:24] <geser> does the oneiric version build in a precise chroot? and does the precise version build in a oneiric chroot? (I don't have access to my pbuilders right now to test it myself)
[14:36] <ScottK> The precise version does not build on the oneiric chroot.
[14:37] <ScottK> The oneiric version builds on precise.
[14:38] <ScottK> mdeslaur: That (to me) points to a bug in another package.
[14:43] <geser> Could it be python itself? As this check tries linking with only python, on the other side (if it's really python) I wonder why no other package stumbled over it
[14:43] <ScottK> That's what I was thinking, but no idea.  It seems distinctly odd.
[14:47] <mdeslaur> ScottK: yeah, I tried the precise package on oneiric, and it failed as well
[14:47] <ScottK> But the other way around works (oneiric package on precise)
[14:48] <mdeslaur> yep, so it's something with oneiric
[14:48] <mdeslaur> I'm still poking at it
[14:48] <ScottK> Better you than me.  This is way over my head.
[15:01] <mdeslaur> well, I'm stuck...don't know what to try next
[15:03] <ScottK> Ask doko since it might be Python related?
[15:22] <ScottK> Reading -devel, I don't fell bad I didn't figure that out.
[15:22] <ScottK> fell/feel
[15:30] <mdeslaur> ScottK, geser: we need to build it with binutils from oneiric-updates
[15:30] <mdeslaur> ScottK: heh, I wouldn't have figured it out :P
[15:30] <ScottK> Great news though.
[15:31] <ScottK> It also explains why it built on micahg's system.  I'm sure he has -updates enabled.
[15:34] <mdeslaur> ScottK: yeah...thanks for suggesting I ask him
[15:35] <ScottK> It's ironic though since I suggested him for a reason entirely unrelated to the actual answer.
[15:35] <mdeslaur> I had tried rebuilding with -updates enabled in my schroot, but binutils wasn't updated in it
[20:03] <ScottK> tumbleweed: You're famous - http://askubuntu.com/badges/40/tumbleweed
[20:04] <tumbleweed> :)
[20:04] <tumbleweed> now I need to ask a question so I can earn it
[20:09] <tumbleweed> broder: maybe backportpackage should use -nc
[20:10] <tumbleweed> (just ran across one of those package that needs all its build deps to clean)
[20:11] <micahg> makes sense if there are no source changes
[20:12]  * micahg had one of those last night also
[20:13]  * tumbleweed does that for syncpackage too
[20:13] <tumbleweed> oh and sponsor-patch
[20:28] <broder> tumbleweed: makes sense to me
[20:32] <ajmitch> ScottK: you're using askubuntu now as well?
[20:33] <Laney> i answered some questions there a bit back
[20:33]  * micahg thinks ScottK mistook it for as kubuntu :)
[20:33] <ajmitch> heh
[20:33] <Laney> as kubuntu
[20:34] <Laney> want points? answer http://askubuntu.com/questions/90070/how-does-the-shutdown-button-works-without-asking-for-password
[20:34] <broder> that one's easy
[20:35] <Laney> exactly
[20:35]  * tumbleweed doesn't know why anyone bothers with askubuntu. jorge answers everything
[20:36] <ajmitch> not *quite* everything
[20:36] <ajmitch> just 95%
[20:36]  * ajmitch did at least get a free tshirt from them :)
[22:16] <Adri2000> hmm, I'm a bit out of date on this: is requestsync completly deprecated in favor of syncpackage?
[22:16] <Adri2000> (given that I have the necessary upload rights)
[22:18] <broder> yes
[22:18] <broder> for doing your own syncs
[22:18] <broder> for sponsoring syncs, you need to be sure to have a fairly recent version of syncpackage that supports it
[22:19] <broder> (either from precise or ppa:udt-developers/daily)
[22:19] <Adri2000> ok, thanks :)
[22:21] <EvilResistance> broder:  is there an easy way to determine what build-deps or required packages are defined in the debian/control file in a source package between versions (i.e. precise vs. oneiric versions)
[22:21] <EvilResistance> without me having to download the source packages and then diffing them
[22:21] <EvilResistance> s/them/the control file/
[22:22] <Laney> packages.ubuntu.com shows it, or UDD
[22:24] <EvilResistance> packages.ubuntu.com does show the dependent packages for the program to run, but i dont see any refs about the build-deps... what's UDD?
[22:25] <Laney> http://packages.ubuntu.com/source/precise/libproxy
[22:25] <Laney> UDD is the ultimate debian database, see udd.debian.org
[22:26] <EvilResistance> ah source that's what i forgot to look at :P
[22:26] <Laney> or they are in the Sources file in a repository
[22:26] <Laney> which you can query with e.g. grep-dctrl
[22:27] <nixmaniack> is there a way to get debian source via apt-get source in ubuntu?
[22:28] <tumbleweed> it's in the Sources files
[22:28] <tumbleweed> ah, Laney said that
[22:28] <tumbleweed> nixmaniack: we have pull-debian-source to make it easy
[22:28] <tumbleweed> but yes, you can have deb-src lines pointing at Ubuntu
[22:28] <tumbleweed> err at Debian
[22:29] <nixmaniack> tumbleweed, thanks for the help :)
[22:29] <tumbleweed> apt-get doesn't make that particularly user-friendly, though, you have to specify which release you are downloading from, whenever you download it
[22:29] <tumbleweed> also see chdist in devscripts
[22:29] <tumbleweed> but for most uses, pull-debian-source
[22:30] <nixmaniack> which default mirror it uses?
[22:33] <tumbleweed> the primary archive. But you can configure it (see ubuntu-dev-tools (5))
[22:34] <nixmaniack> tumbleweed, okay, got it.
[23:39] <EvilResistance> um... i'm getting a 500 error when trying to upload a backported package to a PPA for my use... is this a bug, or did it not upload?  https://pastebin.com/aPwzfQhU
[23:40] <EvilResistance> (using backportpackage btw)