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popeynp ikonia00:26
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xosuiteheartsOkay. I need some help05:04
xosuiteheartsIm thinking of wiping my drive and starting over with Ubuntu05:05
xosuiteheartsbut before I do that05:05
xosuiteheartsI want to try and fix whatever is wrong with it.05:05
xosuiteheartsCurrently my update manager is giving me an error - "a problem occurred when checking for updates" - and in doing so I have a red circle with a white horizontal line through it05:06
xosuiteheartsI've tried doing 'sudo apt-get update &&s sudo apt-get upgrade' - it will update fine but upgrade it gets stuck at 50% dependency05:07
elkyxosuitehearts, this is #ubuntu-ops, and it's not a support channel, what channel did you try join?05:31
xosuiteheartsI... I dont know05:31
xosuiteheartsI was brought here05:31
xosuiteheartsapparently I'm banned from #ubuntu because I said a person's advice he gave me wasnt very helpful05:32
elkyah ok, so that helps, let me find the information about the ban, it'll take a few minutes05:33
elkyit'll help if you can give me some information about when this happened05:33
xosuiteheartslast night05:36
xosuiteheartsThe guy was telling me that I needed to use a windows computer to fix my ntfs drive, and wouldnt even cooperate with the conditions that I had no windows computer to do so with05:37
xosuiteheartsand told me basically to find someone that did05:37
xosuiteheartswhen there's other ways Im sure to fix an NTFS external drive05:37
xosuiteheartsive done it before but apparently forgotten05:37
xosuiteheartsso I told him his advice was useless and that I would tell the rest of the ubuntu ops about how pointless and very unhelpful his advice was05:38
elkyxosuitehearts, linux can't do any management of ntfs. you can connect to it, read from it and if you have special drivers, write to it, but you can't do anything else. So he's correct, and it's unfortunate for you, but it's how it is05:39
xosuiteheartsalright05:39
xosuiteheartsbut still, I tried to show him a screen of what was happening and that it was more than just my external i needed help with05:40
xosuiteheartsand he wouldnt even look05:40
xosuiteheartsthe guy was being plain rude05:40
elkyhe did look.05:40
xosuiteheartshe didn't offer any sort of support after that05:40
xosuiteheartsabout any of my other issues05:40
elkybecause there's nothing he can do. there's nothing I can do now either.05:41
xosuiteheartswhat do you mean nothing you can do?05:41
CarlFKto keep things on topic, this is not about other peoples behavor05:41
elkyif your ntfs filesystem is faulty, then I there's nothing we can help you with for problems it's causing.05:41
xosuiteheartsalright, then can you help me with something else?05:42
xosuiteheartsbecause until im unbanned from the actual ubuntu channel I dont have many places to go to05:42
elkywell there's the forums and askubuntu.com05:43
xosuiteheartsIve tried that. I need some realtime help05:43
xosuiteheartsdo you want me to apologize to ikonia? I agree I may have been out of line, but I was disappointed in how approached me05:44
xosuiteheartsI'll gladly take this to #ubuntu instead of #ubuntu-ops05:45
xosuiteheartsbecause this is obviously the wrong channel05:45
pangolin!guidelines05:45
ubottuThe guidelines for using the Ubuntu channels can be found here: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines05:45
pangolinxosuitehearts: if you can have a read at the above link05:45
pangolinlet me know if you understand them and agree to abide by the guidelines and we will get you back into #ubuntu.05:46
elkyxosuitehearts, we need some assurance that you're not going to respond to people by yelling (that's talking in all caps) about things they can't have known.05:46
xosuiteheartspangolin - I have read, and understand, and agree to abide by the guidelnes.05:47
pangolinelky: if you agree I will remove the ban?05:47
xosuiteheartselky: alright.  it won't happen again.05:48
elkypangolin, sounds fair05:48
pangolinban removed, you can join now.05:48
xosuiteheartsthank you.05:49
xosuiteheartsjoin #ubuntu05:49
pangolin/05:49
pangolinalso please part this channel.05:49
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ikoniacoolstar: how can we help you ?09:16
ikoniaI'm assuming you'd like to discuss why you where banned from #ubuntu ?09:18
coolstarok09:24
ikonianot really that much to discuss, you are asked to stop spamming/recruiting for your project in #ubuntu and you continue to do so , you got banned09:25
ikoniaso not sure what you want from us ?09:25
coolstaris it ok in the offtopic channel?09:25
coolstari probably shud have read the guidelines.09:26
ikonianot really, it's good to inform people if it's in a conversation, but you are just spamming it in channels09:26
ikoniacome on - that's not an excuse09:26
ikoniayou where asked by someone to not do it two times,09:26
coolstarok. i'm sorry. I didn't know I would've gotten banned09:27
ikoniaI shouldn't have had to ban you09:27
ikoniabeing asked to do something by multiple people multiple times should be enough09:27
ikoniathe deal shouldn't be "I'll stop but only because I know I'll get banned", it should be "I'll stop because you've asked me to on a few occasions now"09:28
ikoniaeven after I banned in in #ubuntu, you joined #ubuntu-offtopic and did the same thing09:28
ikoniaso even after you knew you'd been banned for doing it you joined did it again in #ubuntu-offtopic, which is much less of a problem, but not the best thing to do after you've been banned for doing it in another ubuntu channel09:29
coolstarok. I have read the guidelines and understand now what I shouldn't do in the channels.09:30
ikoniawhy did you not stop when asked ?09:30
ikoniaif you need a guideline to tell to stop when people are asking you to stop, there is a problem09:30
coolstari know now that what I was talking about in the official ubuntu channel probably shud have been in off topic, since it is off topic09:34
ikoniacoolstar: you where asked to stop yes/no ?09:34
coolstarpeople just told me that the ubuntu channel was where "n00bs are trying to get ubuntu running"09:35
ikoniacoolstar: that's nothing to do with what we are talking about09:36
ikoniacoolstar: you where asked to stop spamming the channel with your open source project yes/no09:36
coolstarHow is 2 lines spamming? Spamming is more like 100+ lines.09:37
ikoniacoolstar: you where asked to stop spamming the channel with your open source project yes/no09:37
coolstarI am not really sure, as I don't go to an irc and start logging.09:38
ikoniayou're not sure, right09:38
ikoniacoolstar: despite me joining your channel and talking to you for about 20 minutes on it09:38
ikoniaI won't discuss this any further as now you are telling lies to my face,09:38
ikoniaI'll ask you to leave the channel and come back when you can be honest09:38
coolstarI think I mite have been asked. not sure though.09:39
ikoniagood bye09:39
coolstarok. i remember now. i was asked09:53
coolstarikonia: u thr?09:57
ikoniasorry, no I'm busy at the moment, come back later09:57
coolstar-ipodikonia: u thr?11:00
bazhangfloodbotk3 is going nuts11:17
Kottizenhi, is there any reason why FloodBot keeps opping itself in #kubuntu?13:15
bazhangbrokenness I suspect13:15
PiciKottizen: looking at it now13:22
Kottizenokay, great13:22
mneptokcoolstar: would you like your ban to be removed?14:15
mneptokcoolstar: if so, i'm happy to discuss it with you. however, i will be asking questions, and expect answers to only the questions i ask. not a running monologue. if you can answer my questions, maybe you can get yourself back into #ubuntu14:16
mneptokcoolstar: if you are not here to discuss your ban, please respect this channel's no-idle policy and /part14:18
* mneptok sets the timer and goes to fetch the banhammer14:18
oCeansigh14:45
bazhangblueskaj used to be better14:45
oCeanlikes to add offtopic comment every now and then14:47
bazhangfuel the fire and criticize us mostly14:48
oCeanhe likes to do that too14:48
oCean* usuario (~usuario@62.81.244.12.static.user.ono.com) has joined #ubuntu14:50
oCeanoh yay14:50
bazhangthats just user afaik14:50
oCeanoh, right14:50
oCeanmade that mistake before14:50
oCean:s14:50
bazhangespanol live cd perhaps14:50
oCeanI should learn some espanol :)14:51
mneptoki need to improve my Spanish. vastly.15:37
beunosi15:37
mneptokthis from the person that cannot spell "bueno"15:37
mneptok;)15:37
bazhanghoho15:38
* beuno hands mneptok the point15:38
mneptokand you're supposed to say "be one with the point."15:38
mneptokand then i say "I SEE WHAT YOU DID THERE!"15:38
beunomaybe you don't need to improve your spanish  ;)15:39
mneptokwell, my Caribbeano slang and profanity falls on deaf ears here in NM. so i at least have to train up on impolite Mexicano spanish. :)15:40
jpdsA ver, chicos.15:41
mneptokCastellano i'll worry about when i have the kind of money it takes to vacation in Spain15:41
jpdsmneptok: Just watch http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xWrbAmtZuGc15:41
mneptokcaralho ...15:41
* mneptok goes to look15:41
mneptokai ai ai. es laaaaaaaargo. no mi gusta.15:44
pangolinwhat is krisss117 on about?19:11
jpdspangolin: We may never know.19:21
pangolin:)19:22
Prodegoyou guys have an on-join spammer19:50
Prodegolissa!~dfd@88.240.113.18419:50
ProdegoGot sent "<lissa> hii sexyycamms shoow http://on-cam.de.lv/" on join19:50
pangolinthank you Prodego19:52
Prodegonp19:52
* mneptok taps Prodego and gestures at the /topic19:57
Prodegooh sorry, yep19:58
mneptokthankke19:58

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