[00:26] <popey> np ikonia
[05:04] <xosuitehearts> Okay. I need some help
[05:05] <xosuitehearts> Im thinking of wiping my drive and starting over with Ubuntu
[05:05] <xosuitehearts> but before I do that
[05:05] <xosuitehearts> I want to try and fix whatever is wrong with it.
[05:06] <xosuitehearts> Currently my update manager is giving me an error - "a problem occurred when checking for updates" - and in doing so I have a red circle with a white horizontal line through it
[05:07] <xosuitehearts> I've tried doing 'sudo apt-get update &&s sudo apt-get upgrade' - it will update fine but upgrade it gets stuck at 50% dependency
[05:31] <elky> xosuitehearts, this is #ubuntu-ops, and it's not a support channel, what channel did you try join?
[05:31] <xosuitehearts> I... I dont know
[05:31] <xosuitehearts> I was brought here
[05:32] <xosuitehearts> apparently I'm banned from #ubuntu because I said a person's advice he gave me wasnt very helpful
[05:33] <elky> ah ok, so that helps, let me find the information about the ban, it'll take a few minutes
[05:33] <elky> it'll help if you can give me some information about when this happened
[05:36] <xosuitehearts> last night
[05:37] <xosuitehearts> The guy was telling me that I needed to use a windows computer to fix my ntfs drive, and wouldnt even cooperate with the conditions that I had no windows computer to do so with
[05:37] <xosuitehearts> and told me basically to find someone that did
[05:37] <xosuitehearts> when there's other ways Im sure to fix an NTFS external drive
[05:37] <xosuitehearts> ive done it before but apparently forgotten
[05:38] <xosuitehearts> so I told him his advice was useless and that I would tell the rest of the ubuntu ops about how pointless and very unhelpful his advice was
[05:39] <elky> xosuitehearts, linux can't do any management of ntfs. you can connect to it, read from it and if you have special drivers, write to it, but you can't do anything else. So he's correct, and it's unfortunate for you, but it's how it is
[05:39] <xosuitehearts> alright
[05:40] <xosuitehearts> but still, I tried to show him a screen of what was happening and that it was more than just my external i needed help with
[05:40] <xosuitehearts> and he wouldnt even look
[05:40] <xosuitehearts> the guy was being plain rude
[05:40] <elky> he did look.
[05:40] <xosuitehearts> he didn't offer any sort of support after that
[05:40] <xosuitehearts> about any of my other issues
[05:41] <elky> because there's nothing he can do. there's nothing I can do now either.
[05:41] <xosuitehearts> what do you mean nothing you can do?
[05:41] <CarlFK> to keep things on topic, this is not about other peoples behavor
[05:41] <elky> if your ntfs filesystem is faulty, then I there's nothing we can help you with for problems it's causing.
[05:42] <xosuitehearts> alright, then can you help me with something else?
[05:42] <xosuitehearts> because until im unbanned from the actual ubuntu channel I dont have many places to go to
[05:43] <elky> well there's the forums and askubuntu.com
[05:43] <xosuitehearts> Ive tried that. I need some realtime help
[05:44] <xosuitehearts> do you want me to apologize to ikonia? I agree I may have been out of line, but I was disappointed in how approached me
[05:45] <xosuitehearts> I'll gladly take this to #ubuntu instead of #ubuntu-ops
[05:45] <xosuitehearts> because this is obviously the wrong channel
[05:45] <pangolin> !guidelines
[05:45] <pangolin> xosuitehearts: if you can have a read at the above link
[05:46] <pangolin> let me know if you understand them and agree to abide by the guidelines and we will get you back into #ubuntu.
[05:46] <elky> xosuitehearts, we need some assurance that you're not going to respond to people by yelling (that's talking in all caps) about things they can't have known.
[05:47] <xosuitehearts> pangolin - I have read, and understand, and agree to abide by the guidelnes.
[05:47] <pangolin> elky: if you agree I will remove the ban?
[05:48] <xosuitehearts> elky: alright.  it won't happen again.
[05:48] <elky> pangolin, sounds fair
[05:48] <pangolin> ban removed, you can join now.
[05:49] <xosuitehearts> thank you.
[05:49] <xosuitehearts> join #ubuntu
[05:49] <pangolin> /
[05:49] <pangolin> also please part this channel.
[09:16] <ikonia> coolstar: how can we help you ?
[09:18] <ikonia> I'm assuming you'd like to discuss why you where banned from #ubuntu ?
[09:24] <coolstar> ok
[09:25] <ikonia> not really that much to discuss, you are asked to stop spamming/recruiting for your project in #ubuntu and you continue to do so , you got banned
[09:25] <ikonia> so not sure what you want from us ?
[09:25] <coolstar> is it ok in the offtopic channel?
[09:26] <coolstar> i probably shud have read the guidelines.
[09:26] <ikonia> not really, it's good to inform people if it's in a conversation, but you are just spamming it in channels
[09:26] <ikonia> come on - that's not an excuse
[09:26] <ikonia> you where asked by someone to not do it two times,
[09:27] <coolstar> ok. i'm sorry. I didn't know I would've gotten banned
[09:27] <ikonia> I shouldn't have had to ban you
[09:27] <ikonia> being asked to do something by multiple people multiple times should be enough
[09:28] <ikonia> the deal shouldn't be "I'll stop but only because I know I'll get banned", it should be "I'll stop because you've asked me to on a few occasions now"
[09:28] <ikonia> even after I banned in in #ubuntu, you joined #ubuntu-offtopic and did the same thing
[09:29] <ikonia> so even after you knew you'd been banned for doing it you joined did it again in #ubuntu-offtopic, which is much less of a problem, but not the best thing to do after you've been banned for doing it in another ubuntu channel
[09:30] <coolstar> ok. I have read the guidelines and understand now what I shouldn't do in the channels.
[09:30] <ikonia> why did you not stop when asked ?
[09:30] <ikonia> if you need a guideline to tell to stop when people are asking you to stop, there is a problem
[09:34] <coolstar> i know now that what I was talking about in the official ubuntu channel probably shud have been in off topic, since it is off topic
[09:34] <ikonia> coolstar: you where asked to stop yes/no ?
[09:35] <coolstar> people just told me that the ubuntu channel was where "n00bs are trying to get ubuntu running"
[09:36] <ikonia> coolstar: that's nothing to do with what we are talking about
[09:36] <ikonia> coolstar: you where asked to stop spamming the channel with your open source project yes/no
[09:37] <coolstar> How is 2 lines spamming? Spamming is more like 100+ lines.
[09:37] <ikonia> coolstar: you where asked to stop spamming the channel with your open source project yes/no
[09:38] <coolstar> I am not really sure, as I don't go to an irc and start logging.
[09:38] <ikonia> you're not sure, right
[09:38] <ikonia> coolstar: despite me joining your channel and talking to you for about 20 minutes on it
[09:38] <ikonia> I won't discuss this any further as now you are telling lies to my face,
[09:38] <ikonia> I'll ask you to leave the channel and come back when you can be honest
[09:39] <coolstar> I think I mite have been asked. not sure though.
[09:39] <ikonia> good bye
[09:53] <coolstar> ok. i remember now. i was asked
[09:57] <coolstar> ikonia: u thr?
[09:57] <ikonia> sorry, no I'm busy at the moment, come back later
[11:00] <coolstar-ipod> ikonia: u thr?
[11:17] <bazhang> floodbotk3 is going nuts
[13:15] <Kottizen> hi, is there any reason why FloodBot keeps opping itself in #kubuntu?
[13:15] <bazhang> brokenness I suspect
[13:22] <Pici> Kottizen: looking at it now
[13:22] <Kottizen> okay, great
[14:15] <mneptok> coolstar: would you like your ban to be removed?
[14:16] <mneptok> coolstar: if so, i'm happy to discuss it with you. however, i will be asking questions, and expect answers to only the questions i ask. not a running monologue. if you can answer my questions, maybe you can get yourself back into #ubuntu
[14:18] <mneptok> coolstar: if you are not here to discuss your ban, please respect this channel's no-idle policy and /part
[14:18]  * mneptok sets the timer and goes to fetch the banhammer
[14:45] <oCean> sigh
[14:45] <bazhang> blueskaj used to be better
[14:47] <oCean> likes to add offtopic comment every now and then
[14:48] <bazhang> fuel the fire and criticize us mostly
[14:48] <oCean> he likes to do that too
[14:50] <oCean> * usuario (~usuario@62.81.244.12.static.user.ono.com) has joined #ubuntu
[14:50] <oCean> oh yay
[14:50] <bazhang> thats just user afaik
[14:50] <oCean> oh, right
[14:50] <oCean> made that mistake before
[14:50] <oCean> :s
[14:50] <bazhang> espanol live cd perhaps
[14:51] <oCean> I should learn some espanol :)
[15:37] <mneptok> i need to improve my Spanish. vastly.
[15:37] <beuno> si
[15:37] <mneptok> this from the person that cannot spell "bueno"
[15:37] <mneptok> ;)
[15:38] <bazhang> hoho
[15:38]  * beuno hands mneptok the point
[15:38] <mneptok> and you're supposed to say "be one with the point."
[15:38] <mneptok> and then i say "I SEE WHAT YOU DID THERE!"
[15:39] <beuno> maybe you don't need to improve your spanish  ;)
[15:40] <mneptok> well, my Caribbeano slang and profanity falls on deaf ears here in NM. so i at least have to train up on impolite Mexicano spanish. :)
[15:41] <jpds> A ver, chicos.
[15:41] <mneptok> Castellano i'll worry about when i have the kind of money it takes to vacation in Spain
[15:41] <jpds> mneptok: Just watch http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xWrbAmtZuGc
[15:41] <mneptok> caralho ...
[15:41]  * mneptok goes to look
[15:44] <mneptok> ai ai ai. es laaaaaaaargo. no mi gusta.
[19:11] <pangolin> what is krisss117 on about?
[19:21] <jpds> pangolin: We may never know.
[19:22] <pangolin> :)
[19:50] <Prodego> you guys have an on-join spammer
[19:50] <Prodego> lissa!~dfd@88.240.113.184
[19:50] <Prodego> Got sent "<lissa> hii sexyycamms shoow http://on-cam.de.lv/" on join
[19:52] <pangolin> thank you Prodego
[19:52] <Prodego> np
[19:57]  * mneptok taps Prodego and gestures at the /topic
[19:58] <Prodego> oh sorry, yep
[19:58] <mneptok> thankke