[00:00] <eutheria> how can i add more virtual desktops to gnome shell?
[00:00] <trism> mikere: nvidia-common is not the drivers package, you probably want nvidia-current
[00:00] <pp7> mikere: u installing from deb?
[00:00] <mikere> trism: ah, thanks
[00:01] <mikere> that looks like it's building a module
[00:02] <mikere> Do I need to reboot or just restart xserver after installing nvidia-current?
[00:03] <pp7> mikere: probably reboot
[00:03] <mikere> Thanks - lets hope I did it all right this time =)
[00:04]  * edbian hopes
[00:05] <TalonLite> Any idea why I can't install gnome-extensions-user-theme ?
[00:05] <ikonia> tell us the error
[00:05] <asw3> someone here know good terminal that support "Bi-directional text rendering" on gnome?
[00:06] <davers> mount /cdrom
[00:06] <davers> mount: can't find /cdrom in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[00:06] <davers> ??
[00:07] <histo> davers: /dev/cdrom
[00:07] <TalonLite> "gnome-shell-extensions-user-theme: - Depends: gnome-shell-extensions-common but it is not going to be installed"
[00:07] <histo> davers: mount /dev/cdrom /to/some/folder
[00:07] <davers> ok i just did copy and paste :S
[00:07] <davers> lol
[00:08] <mikere> trism pp7: if you are still available, I appear to be no further along.  xserver fails to start, can't find nvidia, modprobe can't load it.
[00:08] <davers> sorry im use to freebsd console
[00:08] <trism> TalonLite: if you downloaded it from that omgubuntu article, or whereever, they put the translations in a separate package, and you need to download both
[00:08] <trism> mikere: uname -a and dkms status
[00:08] <davers> im hoping the opengl driver support end works with quake3
[00:09] <davers> onboard sis video card 64 megs :(
[00:09] <someguy> Has anyone gotten google-talkplugin_current_amd64.deb installed? I'm receiving "Dependency is not stisfiable: ia32-libs (>=2.4)
[00:09] <davers> its a socket 478 2 ghz cpu over clocked to 2.66 mhz with almost a gig of ram
[00:09] <TalonLite> One second, Gonna try something else trism
[00:10] <mikere> trism: Linux mike-desktop 2.6.35-31-generic #63-Ubuntu SMP Mon Nov 28 19:23:11 UTC 2011 i686 GNU/Linux and nvidia-current, 260.19.06, 2.6.35-31-generic, i686: installed
[00:12] <ETronik> Hi all, latest Ubuntu update on 11.10 borked my Xinerama setup... can anybody help? TIA
[00:12] <TalonLite> trism: http://pastebin.com/C9fSgi8c
[00:12] <TalonLite> when I try to install gnome-extensions-user-theme
[00:14] <trism> TalonLite: what repo did you add to get it? it isn't in the main repos
[00:14] <TalonLite> ppa:ferramroberto/gnome3
[00:15] <mekajfire> how do I find the chipset used by "sensors" in the lm_sensors configuration?
[00:16] <trism> mikere: looks fine, try: sudo modprobe nvidia-current; and check /var/log/kern.log for errors involving nvidia at the end
[00:16] <mikere> trism: FATAL: Error inserting nvidia_current (/lib/modules/2.6.35-31-generic/updates/dkms/nvidia-current.ko): No such device
[00:17] <mikere> trism: nvidia: probe of 0000:01:00.0 failed with error -1 from kern.log
[00:18] <alecjw> hi, how can i stop ubuntu from hibernating whenever i unplug my laptop from external power?
[00:18] <pp7> alecjw: power settings
[00:18] <alecjw> killing gnome-power-manager freezes my desktop
[00:18] <alecjw> changing upower to a percentage-based policy doesnt help either
[00:19] <alecjw> pp7: which bit in power settings?
[00:19] <brightspark> Hi, my icons for power and network connectivity do not change to reflect my current theme (though volume and logout do). How can I fix this?
[00:19] <pp7> alecjw: is your battery low?
[00:19] <alecjw> no
[00:19] <pp7> hmm
[00:20] <alecjw> in fact it only happens when the battery's full
[00:20] <alecjw> when the battery's low it doesnt mind
[00:20] <pp7> lol
[00:20] <ETronik> dual monitor setup please ? currently it's mirroring the image, I want it to extend the desktop
[00:20] <jutnux> ETronik: What is your graphics card?
[00:21] <alecjw> any other ideas?
[00:21] <ETronik> Nvidia geforce 7700 - I had that working just last week
[00:21] <pp7> alecjw: dunno
[00:21] <trism> TalonLite: seems to be there, what error do you get when you try to install gnome-shell-extensions-common
[00:21] <jutnux> ETronik: Run gksudo nvidia-settings
[00:21] <ETronik> but updates just made a mess of it
[00:21] <jutnux> Change it from there.
[00:21] <pp7> alecjw: is anything set to hibernate in your power settings?
[00:21] <brightspark> ETronik: System>Preferences>Monitors>"Same image in all monitors"
[00:21] <ETronik> jutnux: I'm running it...
[00:21] <alecjw> pp7: sleep actually, not hibernate
[00:21] <jutnux> Change the second monitor to twinview ETronik.
[00:21] <alecjw> but yeah its set to sleep when the battery's low
[00:21] <TalonLite> hmm
[00:22] <alecjw> i wish i could set it to do nothing when the battery's low
[00:22] <alecjw> i could in previous versions of gnome but not any more
[00:22] <ETronik> jutnux: trying twinview - brb
[00:22] <jutnux> Okie dokie.
[00:22] <ETronik> err
[00:22] <TalonLite> trism: http://pastebin.com/hcbbxT1r
[00:23] <ETronik> to restart X server ? ctl+alt+bkspc ?
[00:23] <alecjw> oh and ive tried setting it in gconf do to nothing but that didnt work
[00:23] <TalonLite> For some reason trism my repositorys arent being read
[00:23] <alecjw> ETronik: i think the ubuntu developers in their infinite wisdom decided to disable the ctrl+alt+backspace shortcut
[00:23] <alecjw> oh im too late
[00:23] <trism> TalonLite: can you pastebin that file?
[00:24] <mikere> alecjw: you can re-enable it in system-preferences-keyboard (options button)
[00:24] <mikere> alecjw: layouts tab
[00:24] <ETronik> jutnux: What do you know... it was TwinView all along... Thanks !!! :-D
[00:24] <TalonLite> Pastebin what file?
[00:24] <trism> mikere: I'm really not sure, maybe nouveau loaded first? is it listed in lsmod?
[00:25] <jutnux> ETronik: No problem!
[00:25] <ETronik> twinview is a very weird name... very countersense to what it does...
[00:25] <trism> TalonLite: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ferramroberto-gnome3-oneiric.list
[00:25] <alecjw> mikere: ah ok i see, ta
[00:25] <mikere> trism: I see nouveau in lsmod
[00:26] <mikere> trism: is it possible it's not getting blacklisted?
[00:26] <alecjw> anyone else have any idea how i might solve my gnome-power-manager problem?
[00:27] <trism> mikere: yeah seems to be the case
[00:27] <TalonLite> trism: http://pastebin.com/kfjeGR1v
[00:27] <TalonLite> my repos are gone ;[
[00:27] <husseindgm> how to make dock clock and calendar .. analog like vista
[00:28] <mikere> trism: any idea how to prevent it from loading?  I'd look it up but for some reason my web browsing ability seems to be almost non-existent right this minute
[00:28] <husseindgm> anyone can help ?
[00:28] <trism> mikere: do you have an /etc/modprobe.d/nvidia-graphics-drivers.conf? it should be blacklisting nouveau lbm-nouveau nvidia-173 nvidia-96 (although this is on lucid not maverick)
[00:28] <soreau> ! help | husseindgm
[00:29] <mikere> trism: checking now
[00:29] <trism> mikere: you should be able to copy the file there from /lib/nvidia-current/modprobe.conf
[00:29] <husseindgm> how to make dock clock and calendar .. analog like vista ?
[00:29] <ben_> Alright, I've got a problem....I have ubuntu 11.10 installed on my mac mini with a windows xp virtual machine installed on it....I'm trying to get video off my camcorder that is stored in DV format...how do I do that?
[00:29] <Stanley00> husseindgm: try screenlet
[00:30] <mikere> trism: ok, it's got the blacklist there, I'll see if it's in /lib too
[00:30] <DrPenguin> ben_: your trying to pass the video to the XP VM?
[00:30] <jutnux> ben_: Surely you could just drag and drop the video file?
[00:30] <Stanley00> husseindgm: there some cairo dock clock, I think
[00:30] <jutnux> ben_: If you mean in the VM then you need to install guest additions and share a usb device (in the VBox settings).
[00:30] <someguy> ben_, make sure you turn on the usb for the vm.
[00:30] <ben_> The cable to transfer the video is a IEEE 1394 b to firewire 400
[00:30] <husseindgm> Stanley: sry but where is screenlet .. can u be more specific .. coz um new in Linux :) .. appreciate ur help bro
[00:30] <mikere> trism: the blacklist is in nvidia-current/modprobe.conf as well ><
[00:31] <trism> TalonLite: should probably delete the file, and rerun: sudo apt-add-repository ppa:ferramroberto/gnome3; then rerun apt-get update
[00:31] <Stanley00> husseindgm: they are all in Ubuntu SOftware Center
[00:31] <ben_> It doesn't pick up the firewire port though....any ideas why?
[00:31] <nac4l> Anyone else have an issue with connecting to unsecured wifi networks?
[00:31] <nac4l> I cannot connect to anything unsecured, no matter how many interfaces I try, I have three of them.
[00:31] <Stanley00> !anyone | nac4l
[00:31] <someguy> ben_, follow jutnux 's advice. install guest editions. and then you can share the firewire with the vm.
[00:31] <ben_> It's an old camcorder but I need it for christmas
[00:31] <jutnux> ben_: Follow what I said.
[00:31] <TalonLite> command to delete it?
[00:32] <mikere> trism: This problem just started when I upgraded my video card to 550 Ti - wonder if that's the problem
[00:32] <ben_> I've already got guest additions installed...it can't see the firewire
[00:32] <jutnux> You have to share it in the virtual box settings ben_
[00:32] <trism> TalonLite: sudo rm /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ferramroberto-gnome3-oneiric.list; (or you could just delete the contents of it)
[00:32] <jutnux> ben_: http://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/virtualbox-usb.html
[00:33] <trism> TalonLite: it may be enough just to delete the ain at the end and rerun update though
[00:33] <ben_> alright, thank you I'll take a look at that tutorial
[00:33] <ben_> VirtualBox PUEL edition?
[00:34] <husseindgm> Stanley: THank U broooo .. 10000 times really ;) ... i found the tool and installing it now .. ;)
[00:34] <Stanley00> husseindgm: you are welcome ;)
[00:34] <jutnux> ben_: Will work on all of them.
[00:34] <someguy> Oh wow, I just read that there is no firewire support in VB.
[00:34] <someguy> https://forums.virtualbox.org/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=9637
[00:34] <ben_> someguy...no firewire support?
[00:35] <trism> mikere: that may be it, quick search leads me to believe that card isn't supported with your nvidia version (doesn't seem to be added until 267.59
[00:35] <someguy> check out the link ben_ https://forums.virtualbox.org/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=9637
[00:35] <jutnux> ben_: Try it anyway.
[00:35] <ben_> jutnux, is there firewire support in virtual box?  do you know ?
[00:35] <Guest83009> bk
[00:36] <someguy> https://forums.virtualbox.org/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=38482
[00:36] <someguy> follow the link ben!
[00:36] <jutnux> ben_: Clearly not then. Try VMWare.
[00:37] <ben_> jutnux, someguy ...."That hardware is becoming more rare these days and VB does not support it."...crap!
[00:37] <someguy> Just a couple of points. First of all, Firewire support is not currently on our roadmap, as a number of people on those forum topics pointed out. (Yes, that could change, but then again it might not.)
[00:37] <someguy> Someone asked about latency issues, and yes, there would be additional latency with Firewire in a guest and no, it would probably not be a predictable, constant latency as VirtualBox itself doesn't run as a realtime application on the host.
[00:37] <someguy> Someone else mentioned a Firewire-over-ip solution which should be feasible to set up inside VirtualBox - host-guest communication over ip is something we have put a lot of work into optimising, and while it would not be quite as fast as a dedicated solution it would work in a pretty similar way.
[00:37] <someguy> And finally I have to wish you luck finding someone who will do this for $100, as virtualising a Firewire controller *and* hooking it up to the host's Firewire stack (on four different host platforms) is not an excercise for a Sunday afternoon, or at least it wouldn't be for me.
[00:37] <FloodBot1> someguy: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:37] <mikere> trism: sounds right.
[00:37] <someguy> Just a couple of points. First of all, Firewire support is not currently on our roadmap, as a number of people on those forum topics pointed out.
[00:38] <someguy> from one of the devlopers.
[00:38] <ben_> someguy, wonderful
[00:40] <someguy> ben_, your camera take have storage cards?
[00:40] <ben_> yes
[00:40] <ben_> very some though...just for pictures
[00:40] <someguy> ohh
[00:41] <someguy> hmm post on craigslist and see if someone will transfer the video and upload it to megaupload.
[00:42] <mikere> trism: looks like I should distro upgrade to 11.04 so I can get 270+ nvidia driver for 550 ti support
[00:42] <ben_> someguy, well this is for christmas..I was gonna put all my digital videos onto DVD
[00:42] <ben_> I don't got a lot of time
[00:42] <mikere> trism:  but thanks so much for all your efforts.
[00:42] <ben_> It's a mac mini 2009
[00:43] <Guest77618> can someone remote desktop me and do this? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PXEInstallMultiDistro
[00:43] <ben_> The drivers for the video camera are only for windows though
[00:43] <someguy> ben_,  have a family member with windows?
[00:43] <someguy> ben_,  or you can dual boot temporarily
[00:44] <TalonLite> trism: http://pastebin.com/kpijYs0U
[00:44] <d1g1ta11> can someone please help me fix laptop not hibernating on battery low (battery runs out & it shuts down)
[00:44] <someguy> d1g1ta11, how old is the battery?
[00:45] <someguy> d1g1ta11, it sounds like a damaged battery.
[00:45] <triunity> test
[00:45] <Benkinooby> d1g1ta11, you can run the command 'acpi -i' to see how fit your battery still is
[00:45] <someguy> you could turn the percentage up for hibernate.
[00:45] <d1g1ta11> someguy:  it's giving me a couple of hours, which is what I would expect.  and the battery gauge shows roughly the correct usage %ages.  it just doesn't hibernate.  it goes to 0% and shuts down.
[00:45] <trism> TalonLite: odd, did you try to remove some repos with apt-add-repository? I've seen this ain thing before...you should check all the files in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ and make sure they don't have ain at the end
[00:45] <Star_Light> why I can't leave a comment on youtube?
[00:46] <ben_> someguy, Well, the camcorder uses a IEEE 1394 connection to transfer the videos to a computer.  I've got a cable that I just bought to transfer the files..(IEEE 1394 on 1 end w/ firewire 400 on the other) ...I guess I'll have to dual boot...
[00:46] <Star_Light> it tells me "Error , Try again"
[00:46] <Benkinooby> d1g1ta11, do you use gnome?
[00:46] <TalonLite> I did remove them :|
[00:46] <d1g1ta11> Benkinooby: yes
[00:46] <d1g1ta11> someguy: looks OK
[00:46] <Star_Light> anybody knows????
[00:46] <TalonLite> and I did check the file and don't see ain anywhere
[00:46] <someguy> d1g1ta11, system settings> power> when power is critically low hibernate.
[00:46] <ben_> if I'm in windows though w/ boot camp ...do you know if the fire wire will be recognized?
[00:46] <DrPenguin> ben_: I have a quesiton.. why cant you just transfer the file to Ubuntu and then to the VM?
[00:47] <Benkinooby> d1g1ta11, then check gnomes pwer settings... i don'T use gnome, maybe some1 else can help you
[00:47] <sve_fre> Star_Light: are you logged in?
[00:47] <d1g1ta11> someguy: yes, that's what it's set to
[00:47] <Star_Light> yes
[00:47] <sve_fre> Star_Light: try log out and log in.
[00:47] <Star_Light> ok
[00:47] <someguy> DrPenguin, ^^
[00:47] <d1g1ta11> someguy: but, it's not working.  I've vaguely recall someone saying there is a problem on some laptops with gnome power mgmt...
[00:47] <someguy> d1g1ta11, how many cycles on your batter
[00:48] <d1g1ta11> someguy: but, I think there is a fix, I think something needs to be modified
[00:48] <ben_> I'm in 11.10 right now....I've got the camcorder hooked up to the mac mini ....I don't see it being recognized by Ubuntu, maybe because it requires drivers or something...maybe you know of a way I can get the videos off the camcorder in Ubuntu ?
[00:48] <trism> TalonLite: the error in your paste is from a different file
[00:48] <someguy> I'm thinking the battery is reporting it's power incorrectly
[00:48] <bingomanatee_> hello there
[00:48] <DrPenguin> ben_: Well.. dude, Your Host would OBVIOUSLY need to recognize the camcorder for VB to see it EVEN IF Vb could
[00:48] <d1g1ta11> someguy: I don't think so, b.c it goes from 100% to 0% and then shuts down about 5 mins later
[00:48] <TalonLite> duh
[00:48] <TalonLite> lol trism found it
[00:48] <TalonLite> lets see if it works
[00:48] <bingomanatee_> need a bit of help getting a usb thumb drive to read
[00:48] <dkog> Hi - when I try to install memcached with apt-get, I get this error "Your account has expired; please contact your system administrator" - which account is that referring to?
[00:49] <bingomanatee_> I know its bus and device id
[00:49] <dkog> (and it mostly installs)
[00:49] <Star_Light> sve_fre today I created account on youtube... I done log in and log out as you told me before but the result and the error message is the same..... any idea???????
[00:49] <d1g1ta11> someguy: iow, that's what I would expect if hibernate wasn''t working but the battery meter was
[00:49] <DrPenguin> bingomanatee_: what is the device node(s) given from `sudo fdisk -l`?
[00:49] <sve_fre> Star_Light: confirmed e-mail?
[00:49] <Star_Light> I think....
[00:50] <Star_Light> I will try again
[00:50] <someguy> d1g1ta11, that is a weird issue. I remember there was a power drain issue.
[00:50] <sve_fre> Star_Light: knowing is better :)
[00:50] <someguy> that's the only power mgmt issue I recall.
[00:50] <ben_> DrPenguin, ...well, my Host is 11.10...I installed it on the entire hard drive....do you know a way to get the videos off?  I'm thinking I'm gonna have to dual boot and when the samsung drivers are installed on the windows xp machine...it will be able to transfer the data from the camcorder tapes to the computer
[00:50] <Star_Light> yes you have right just a minute
[00:50] <TalonLite> trism: When I try to add a repo it's saying there isn't a /etc/apt/sources.list
[00:50] <bingomanatee_> it lists /dev/sda1 … Linux
[00:50] <DrPenguin> dev sda1 is your primary hard disk, not usb, the usb will start at sdb, depending on any other drives
[00:51] <DrPenguin> ben_: you need to get Ubuntu to be able to see your camcorder.. google around for it see if theres support
[00:51] <trism> TalonLite: what does /etc/apt/sources.list look like?
[00:51] <d1g1ta11> someguy: do u remember what it was exactly and how to fix it?  it's been so long, I can't recall
[00:51] <Star_Light> sve_fre,  I have been written
[00:51] <TalonLite> I can't find it
[00:51] <Star_Light> it doesn't tell me anything else
[00:51] <sve_fre> Star_Light: confirmed that verification link in that e-mail?
[00:51] <Star_Light> yes
[00:51] <sve_fre> okay
[00:51] <someguy> let me look.
[00:51] <ben_> bingomanatee_, do you know how to determine if data is attempting to be transfer to my Ubuntu box through the fire wire port?
[00:52] <TalonLite> Well I found it, but there is nothing at all in it trism
[00:52] <sve_fre> Star_Light: can you post that link to youtube video?
[00:52] <sve_fre> Star_Light: maybe comments deactivated?
[00:52] <someguy> ben_, you maybe able to use http://www.kinodv.org/ to get your video
[00:52] <Star_Light> ok just a minute
[00:52] <someguy> ben_, without the samsung drivers.
[00:52] <bingomanatee_> nope -- doubt this board has a FW port - its pretty bare
[00:52] <Star_Light> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YJCWVxMPer8
[00:52] <Star_Light> it is a java programming course
[00:52] <someguy> d1g1ta11, I'm looking for the resolution if I can find it.
[00:52] <Star_Light> but in GReek
[00:53] <sve_fre> Star_Light: reload youtube-video, do you see my comment?
[00:53] <Star_Light> hahahahaha yes
[00:53] <sve_fre> :P
[00:54] <ben_> someguy, interesting....I'll see if I can...thanks for the web site...I hope that I don't have to dual boot this machine
[00:54] <trism> TalonLite: you are on oneiric, correct?
[00:54] <Star_Light> Hence the problem is me.
[00:54] <sve_fre> Star_Light: are you able to post comments on other youtube videos?
[00:54] <TalonLite> GNOME
[00:54] <someguy> ben_, ya try kino grabdv
[00:54] <Star_Light> just a minute.
[00:54] <someguy> d1g1ta11, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=11555366
[00:54] <TalonLite> I somehow managed to delete the sources.list file trism
[00:54] <ben_> someguy, installing using sudo apt-get install kino ?
[00:54] <Guest77618> you some one help me with multiboot install pxe 266 494 554/4676
[00:54] <trism> TalonLite: yes, I have noticed that, I mean what version of ubuntu are you on?
[00:54] <someguy> that shoudld work press tab just to be sure
[00:54] <TalonLite> I'm on 11.10
[00:55] <trism> TalonLite: pastebin lsb_release -a
[00:55] <Star_Light> sve_fre,  Yes I can
[00:55] <someguy> sudp apt-get install kino <tab><tab>
[00:55] <Star_Light> but just a minute...
[00:55] <sve_fre> Star_Light: wierd.
[00:55] <sve_fre> Star_Light: weird.
[00:55] <Daekdroom> Guys. I have a friend of mine using 11.10 and she has 60GB free in / and 12GB in /home, but she keeps getting warned about little free space in the harddrive through Firefox and Transmission. Any thoughts?
[00:55] <ben_> someguy, yup....I installed it
[00:55] <sve_fre> ^^
[00:55] <someguy> sweet
[00:55] <Star_Light> with my post on java video I have included a link from free code repository
[00:55] <RyuGuns> Hey..
[00:55] <Star_Light> http://pastebin.com/KFU0AjFa
[00:55] <Star_Light> this
[00:56] <Star_Light> maybe it is suspicious?
[00:56] <jutnux> Daekdroom: Firefox isn't going to take up much...
[00:56] <Daekdroom> jutnux, but it's when she tries to download stuff in it.
[00:56] <TalonLite> trism:  i'm on 11.10 oneiric
[00:56] <TalonLite> and No LSB modules are available.
[00:56] <Star_Light> suspicious for the reason of the error I mean
[00:56] <ben_> Daekdroom, Windows has a shadow drive that causes that problem....maybe ubuntu has something similar
[00:56] <Star_Light> maybe youtube lock these links?
[00:56] <jutnux> Daekdroom: Then it's saved to the /home
[00:56] <Star_Light> locks*
[00:56] <Daekdroom> jutnux, yes, but /home has free space, and yet she keeps getting warned there is no space to save the files.
[00:56] <jutnux> Daekdroom: Tell her to stop downloading so much stuff.
[00:56] <Daekdroom> That does not solve the problem.
[00:57] <TalonLite> The touch command should make a new list right trism?
[00:57] <Daekdroom> Because there is free space.
[00:57] <jutnux> Daekdroom: Are you sure there is 12gb?
[00:57] <Daekdroom> jutnux, yes, she checked it.
[00:57] <sve_fre> Star_Light: yes, try to post: pastebin . com / KFU0AjFa
[00:57] <TalonLite> or should i do something else instead of attempting to make a new source from nothing
[00:57] <sve_fre> Star_Light: with spaces
[00:57] <Daekdroom> Through nautilus' properties window
[00:57] <TalonLite> trism: I found a fix, http://repogen.simplylinux.ch/
[00:58] <ben_> someguy, kino is saying raw1394 kernel module not loaded or failure to read/write /dev/raw1394...any ideas?
[01:00] <trism> TalonLite: if the file exists, you can use software-properties-gtk to generate a new one (checking the repos you want)
[01:00] <DrPenguin> ben_:  did you try modprobing that kernel?
[01:00] <Star_Light> SVE_fre yes the problem is the site
[01:00] <someguy> ben_, hmmm I'd take what you typed there and google it.
[01:00] <Star_Light> look again
[01:00] <ben_> DrPenguin, what does modprobing that kernel mean?
[01:00] <trism> TalonLite: I'm concerned with the link to sent because it generated malformed urls for me just now
[01:00] <Star_Light> I have posted
[01:00] <DrPenguin> kernel module, not kernel
[01:00] <Star_Light> without site
[01:00] <someguy> See if anyone else has gotten that error message.
[01:00] <FloodBot1> Star_Light: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:00] <sve_fre> i see your post
[01:00] <ben_> someguy, ....yup...doing that now
[01:00] <TalonLite> trism: after seeing I deleted it I used the touch command to remake it
[01:00] <DrPenguin> ben_:  if a kernel module isnt loaded that is installed in your system, you need to modprobe it to load it
[01:00] <Star_Light> ok
[01:00] <sve_fre> can't read it, neither :)
[01:01] <TalonLite> Weird trism, Look here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1589591
[01:01] <sve_fre> Star_Light: did you try to post the link with spaces?
[01:01] <d1g1ta11> someguy: I found and implemented http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1330805
[01:01] <iV4nBR___> GoodNight!
[01:01] <iV4nBR___> After the / etc / rc.local script what is the next boot will run?
[01:02] <Star_Light> yes
[01:02] <Star_Light> look again
[01:02] <Star_Light> I am foxy
[01:02] <Star_Light> greek man!!! hahahahaa
[01:02] <trism> TalonLite: yeah then I would use software-properties-gtk, make sure you check main/universe/multiverse and security/updates on the updates tab, then visually inspect the file to make sure it is okay before running apt-get update
[01:02] <FloodBot1> Star_Light: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:02] <Star_Light> ok FloodBot1
[01:02] <d1g1ta11> I guess I'll see if that works, and if not, I'll try disabling the script next (unless you think I must do both)
[01:03] <TalonLite> Okay trism, Thanks I hope this fixes it
[01:03] <someguy> ben_, gksudo modprobe raw1394
[01:04] <ben_> someguy, do you know what "sudo update-initramfs -k all -u" does?
[01:04] <DrPenguin> ben_: it updates your boot image
[01:04] <trism> TalonLite: might want to change the mirror on the first tab too
[01:04] <Star_Light> what a stupid filter from youtube perspective... if I want to have interactive courses on programming... I should exchange msn with someone? without msn or skype or something... youtube will block a simple and undangerous link from free code repository? LOL I am not a criminal... I am programmer :D
[01:04] <Star_Light> very bad policy for youtube in my opinion :/
[01:05] <DrPenguin> ben_: the -k all option goes through and updates your boot images for ALL installed kernels
[01:05] <someguy> ben_, read over this.It specifically mentioned your problem. sudo update-initramfs
[01:05] <someguy> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Firewire
[01:05] <sve_fre> they cannot filter, which content you are about to post
[01:05] <TalonLite> Which one trism?
[01:05] <Star_Light> and what is the problme?
[01:05] <DrPenguin> Star_Light: im sorry, ive occasionaly been seeing your posts, are you trying to find help programing something?
[01:05] <Star_Light> problem*
[01:06] <iV4nBR___> After the /etc/ rc.local script what is the next boot will run?
[01:06] <trism> TalonLite: the Download from: combo box, although the main server is fine
[01:06] <sve_fre> youtube wont let you post clickable links
[01:06] <DrPenguin> iv4nBR_: stop repeating your question.. wait for someone to answer it
[01:06] <sve_fre> thats why i have to escape my links with spaces
[01:06] <Star_Light> DrPenguin,  well... I have a little question in Java
[01:06] <TalonLite> kk
[01:06] <DrPenguin> Star_Light: I can answer that, but let take it to pm thats off topic, ok?
[01:06] <Star_Light> sve_fre,  aha....
[01:07] <Star_Light> DrPenguin,  sure
[01:07] <TalonLite> trism: Now it's saying the keys are not avaliable
[01:07] <trism> TalonLite: what did you do?
[01:07] <Star_Light> come prive if you want but I don't know very good english
[01:07] <Star_Light> are you Java programmer?
[01:07] <sve_fre> ok, seems that DrPenguin is the real master (NOM), he'll answer ;)
[01:07] <trism> TalonLite: I'm starting to think you may be better off backing up and reinstalling at this point
[01:07] <Star_Light> sve_fre,  and why they are using this policy?
[01:07] <iV4nBR___> DrPenguin; Sorry! I'll try to save the configuration (setfont) in some startup script.
[01:08] <TalonLite> Yeah same lol
[01:08] <TalonLite> I have it on my usb ready to install either way
[01:08] <sve_fre> i do the same on my sites, dont want to be responsible about the shit someone post on my guestbook/channel/wall etc.
[01:08] <TalonLite> So i'll reinstall, but quick question. After I reinstall will Shell Themes work for Gnome Tweak Tool?
[01:08] <TalonLite> after I add it etc.
[01:09] <sve_fre> because, as a web-publisher (web-site owner) you are, by law, responsible for links inside your sites
[01:09] <trism> TalonLite: it should work fine if you manage to install gnome-shell-extensions-user-theme
[01:09] <trism> TalonLite: (they work here)
[01:09] <TalonLite> True
[01:10] <TalonLite> I'll be back soon enough to update you, Thanks for the help.
[01:10] <TalonLite> off to reinstall.
[01:10] <trism> TalonLite: okay good luck
[01:10] <someguy> Has anyone gotten google-talkplugin_current_amd64.deb installed? I'm receiving "Dependency is not stisfiable: ia32-libs (>=2.4)
[01:14] <Guest77618> can some one set up pxe for me
[01:14] <SunTsu> sure. but nobody will do that
[01:15] <Guest77618> ive been trying to follow a totorial but im getting lost
[01:17] <SunTsu> Guest77618: then tell us what you're having problems with and somebody might be able and willing to help
[01:19] <travisHAZE> Whats the term version of ipconfig (Win)
[01:19] <DrPenguin> ifconfig
[01:19] <travisHAZE> ty DrPenguin
[01:19] <DrPenguin> YOUR WELCOME
[01:20] <velociostrich> Hey, anyone know of a FOSS (and legal) audio converter? Command line is preferable
[01:20] <velociostrich> I need to convert from .wav to .ogg
[01:20] <brightspark> velociostrich: mencoder does video, it may also do audio
[01:21] <Guest77618> itsl almost the whole thing like when i try sudo update-rc.d -f openbsd-inetd remove its not found or when i type sudo apt-get -y install dhcp3-server its not found i cant find  /etc/dhcp3/dhcpd.con nor do i understand how to configure it corecly i never get anything out of ss -apu | grep dhcpd and i cant get passed any of that
[01:21] <Zizzu> ,a quando muore sto qui non muore?
[01:21] <jutnux> !en | Zizzu
[01:21] <brightspark> Zizzu, this is an English channel
[01:21] <jutnux> !es | Zizzu
[01:21] <ben_> someguy, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Firewire
[01:22] <jutnux> Was that Spanish?
[01:22] <jutnux> I have no idea.
[01:22] <Zizzu> no italian
[01:22] <jutnux> !it | Zizzu
[01:22] <Zizzu> xDD
[01:22] <ncfi1013> what application records picture in picture on the desktop?
[01:22] <someguy> ben_, yes.
[01:23] <jutnux> Now going. Have a good night all.
[01:23] <teste> hi
[01:24] <someguy> d1g1ta11, that's what I was meant when I first mentioned the percentages. I should have elaborated.
[01:24] <dkog> Can somebody explain what script is run when apt-get is used?  There is code running but not from any of the files I can see in the .deb.  How does this work?
[01:24] <dkog> (apt-get install I mean)
[01:25] <teste> i have a wireless card RTL8187L and have been looking for information on how to make it function at 100%, the only good info i found is for RTL8187B is this ok?
[01:25] <ben_> someguy, Alright, I see the Firewire port when I do lspci ...but I don't see that the kernel has loaded it doing "grep 1394 /var/log/kern.log" ....how do I make sure that the correct drivers are loaded?
[01:26] <ShawnRisk> I am using a Brother-HL-5250DN with Ubuntu 11.10 and not able to print at all, any reason why?
[01:26] <teste> this is the info i found on the rtl8187b -> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=9272125#post9272125
[01:26] <someguy> lsmod
[01:26] <someguy> ben_, lsmod
[01:26] <teste> any help on this rtl pls
[01:27] <brightspark> ShawnRisk: does your printer show up in System>Administration>Printing ?
[01:27] <ben_> lsmod :firewire_core          56937  1 firewire_ohci
[01:28] <ben_> someguy, so this means that ohci is loaded in the kernel right?
[01:28] <ShawnRisk> brightspark: yes
[01:28] <ben_> ShawnRisk, your not suppose to be here...your support to be in the drupal support room
[01:29] <ShawnRisk> really?
[01:29] <someguy> yes if you see firewire_ohci
[01:29] <ben_> ShawnRisk, yup....just jokin
[01:30] <ShawnRisk> if I am, I would be nuts in there
[01:30] <vuln> What's the best softwate to record myself speaking (through my webcam)?
[01:30] <teste> where can i get help on the rtl8187L? please
[01:31] <brightspark> ShawnRisk: does your printer appear in the print dialog from an application (like gedit)?
[01:31] <ben_> someguy, ....I'm doing a 'vim /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist-firewire.conf' and I see a # of items that are blacklist...what does that mean?
[01:31] <someguy> which item do you see?
[01:32] <ShawnRisk> brightspark: yes but says unable to locate printer
[01:33] <DrPenguin> ben_: thats a comment, it means that module is not being blacklisted
[01:34] <ben_> DrPenguin, what does blacklisted mean in this context?
[01:34] <brightspark> ShawnRisk: it's a different model printer, but same make.  See if it helps you: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1662061
[01:34] <DrPenguin> ben_: means the module isnt loaded at startup, but it can be  loaded during system operation by some other service or by you manually
[01:35] <krispaul> Hello, how i can upgrade to pangolin ?
[01:36] <pangolin> !pangolin
[01:36] <someguy> ben_, run read this troubleshooting section to help you resolve your issue.
[01:36] <someguy> I have to leave
[01:37] <jtreminio> Hi all - how do I get resize circles to show up on the edges of my windows?
[01:37] <ShawnRisk> brightspark: I am using the old desktop so I might not have the same printer program.  I am not sure how to edit the settings of the printer
[01:37] <jtreminio> They're these circles that appear in all corners and edges of current window to easily resize it with a mouse.
[01:37] <mhsy> Hello
[01:38] <mhsy> There was an update yesterday for font rendering
[01:39] <mhsy> It doesn't seem to have worked properly
[01:39] <brightspark> ShawnRisk: System>Administration>Printing>(right-click your printer)>(click "Properties")
[01:39] <lotus-blade> ok I have a small problem.  I have 2 monitors that I have to switch the cables back and forth in order for both to work.
[01:39] <mhsy> I lost unity, and gnome shell goes to gnome 2 style
[01:39] <mhsy> Did it happen to anyone else?
[01:39] <lotus-blade> any ideas how to fix this?  one of the monitors is always out of range
[01:40] <ShawnRisk> brightspark: there is only applications and places and no other menu
[01:40] <Weber> how to install ubuntu in Amazon EC2? Thre is no public image for the location I want (south america)
[01:41] <brightspark> ShawnRisk: when I asked you if the printer showed up in the System>Administration>Printing dialog, how did you pull it up?
[01:41] <mhsy> Hello
[01:42] <brightspark> mhsy, be patient please.  If no-one knows the answer to your question, no-one will answer.
[01:42] <mhsy> Sorry. Didn't realize it got sent
[01:42] <mhsy> I got the server notice after
[01:42] <ShawnRisk> brightspark: Applications > System Tools > System Settings (Click Printers)
[01:44] <kcm1700> bash hangs on 'git diff somebranch...[Tab]'
[01:44] <kcm1700> is it bash issue?
[01:44] <kcm1700> or git issue?
[01:44] <kcm1700> ah, no, not three dots, but four dots.
[01:45] <DrPenguin> kcm1700: id say neither
[01:45] <DrPenguin> it may just be taking a while for git to look at the stuff
[01:45] <brightspark> ShawnRisk: from inside there, right-click the printer and click Properties.  (I don't have the latest release, so this might not work, but give it a try for me.)
[01:45] <SunTsu> kcm1700: what would you call "hangs"?
[01:45] <kcm1700> infinitely printing '.' on command line
[01:45] <kcm1700> and consumes cpu a lot
[01:45] <ptaylor> kcm1700: how big is the file? what happens if u run sdiff -s file1 file2
[01:46] <kcm1700> it's a small repository. I just wanted to diff two branches
[01:46] <DrPenguin> kcm1700: well a hang would mean it would be doing nothing, and its obviously doing something
[01:46] <kcm1700> sorry for my mistake.
[01:46] <wireladen> hey everybody
[01:47] <ShawnRisk> brightspark: no menu showing up when I do that
[01:47] <SunTsu> kcm1700: with a lots of changes between the branches that can take quite some time. You can minimize that by eg. rebasing to master regularly
[01:47] <ptaylor> git diff master..test
[01:48] <kcm1700> git diff master.....[Tab] caused the problem.
[01:48] <DrPenguin> TAB IS EVIL
[01:48] <ptaylor> why do u have so many '.' ?
[01:48] <ptaylor> just type the branch names
[01:48] <Chotaz> How can I test if my machine accepts outside ssh connections?
[01:48] <SunTsu> kcm1700: the number of dots astonishs me
[01:48] <ptaylor> if u don't know the name then .. just do
[01:48] <kcm1700> by mistake
[01:48] <ptaylor> git branch
[01:48] <ptaylor> to list it
[01:49] <ptaylor> but for git specific questions .. u can ask #git
[01:49] <somsip> Chotaz: netstat -a ?
[01:49] <brightspark> ShawnRisk: sorry then, I don't know enough about the new release to help you further.  Ask again in a few minutes and maybe someone else will be more informed.
[01:49] <Chotaz> somsip: care to elaborate
[01:49] <ptaylor> kcm1700: for git guide.. here's a good source
[01:49] <ptaylor> http://tinyurl.com/lkpthp
[01:49] <ShawnRisk> brightspark: which version you use?
[01:49] <teste> please someone can help me with a rtl8187L
[01:49] <somsip> Chotaz: type 'netstat -a' in a terminal
[01:49] <brightspark> Chotaz: see if port 22 is open on a portscan
[01:49] <brightspark> ShawnRisk: Maverick 10.10
[01:49] <SunTsu> kcm1700: btw. you never know what bash was trying to complete for you
[01:50] <ptaylor> kcm1700: for good visuals - go heere
[01:50] <ptaylor> http://peepcode.com/products/git
[01:50] <kcm1700> thanks for helps.
[01:50] <Chotaz> I have no clue
[01:50] <ShawnRisk> brightspark: I am just using the classic desktop
[01:51] <wireladen> having trouble registering nick
[01:52] <somsip> !register | wireladen
[01:52] <brightspark> ShawnRisk: The classic desktop is similar but not identical.  I can't help you further since I don't know how properties are adjusted in the new version.
[01:53] <ShawnRisk> okay thanks
[01:53] <wireladen> thanks
[01:57] <wireladen> clear
[01:57] <antheo> hi
[02:01] <ShawnRisk> brightspark: I am using CUPS if that helps, and the connection says: dnssd://Brother%20HL-5250DN%20series._pdl-datastream._tcp.local/
[02:03] <bonhoffer> how do i hide the launch bar in 11.10?
[02:03] <bonhoffer> it was gone -- but i just lost power and rebooted
[02:04] <bonhoffer> and it is stuck on the left
[02:08] <newellj79_>  bonhoffer, get compizconfig from software center.  it's one of the settings in there.
[02:08] <bonhoffer> newellj79, thanks!
[02:09] <Siphax_> sudo apt-get purge unity
[02:09] <pangolin> !behelpful | Siphax_
[02:10] <wireladen> BT5 anyone? pm me
[02:10] <SunTsu> !backtrack > wireladen
[02:10] <pangolin> wireladen: like dax already told you #backtrack-linux
[02:17] <Arctic> Hey
[02:17] <ArcticM> Anyone knows why I'm seeing a white outline at any tooltip or right clicking? I recently installed nvidia drivers
[02:18] <soreau> ArcticM: Probably a driver bug
[02:19] <ArcticM> soreau, any way to fix it? they're from the official nvidia site
[02:19] <ArcticM> or nvidia's fault?
[02:19] <lduros> hello, i install open-ssh on an ubuntu laptop using wireless. the local address is 192.168.1.110, but when I try ssh 192.168.1.110 I get: No route to host from another laptop
[02:19] <lduros> is there anything to do for this to work when using wireless?
[02:19] <dr_willis> ArcticM:   check the forums and askubuntu.com for anyone with similer issues? You did try the version in the 'addational drivers' tool first?
[02:20] <lduros> I should mention I can't find the laptop when running nmap -sP 192.168.1.* -- but I check ifconfig from the laptop (ssh server) and it is 114
[02:20] <lduros> 110 sorry
[02:20] <dr_willis> lduros:  Can the other machines ping the linux box?  can it ping them? Can it ssh to itself?
[02:21] <lduros> dr_willis: it can ssh to itself, I cannot ping it from my other latop. it says Destination Host Unreachable
[02:21] <dr_willis> lduros:  sounding almost like some firewall on the pc, or router.
[02:21] <ShawnRisk> I am using a Brother-HL-5250DN with Ubuntu 11.10 and not able to print at all, any reason why?
[02:21] <lduros> dr_willis: would there be some firewall with ubuntu when using wireless?
[02:21] <lduros> dr_willis: i've used some computers here using ethernet for ssh servers and it worked fine
[02:22] <ArcticM> dr_willis: I opened it and "Nvidia drivers (173)" is selected as active, there are other 3 that say post-release updates, current, and post-release update current
[02:22] <dr_willis> lduros:  if you set one up, there shouldent be any rules by default.
[02:22] <dr_willis> ArcticM:  you could try the others i guess.
[02:22] <lduros> dr_willis: right, so I wouldn't think there is anything preventing that, except maybe the router
[02:22] <dr_willis> lduros:  whats the other pc you are sshing from? window?linux?
[02:23] <lduros> dr_willis: debian to be more precise
[02:23] <dr_willis> the ubuntu box can ping the debian box?
[02:23] <lduros> and it works fine, the ubuntu laptop can't find the debian one either
[02:23] <lduros> dr_willis: nope
[02:23] <lduros> they are both on the same router wireless though
[02:23] <lduros> one is 110 the other 114 :-)
[02:24] <lduros> but they don't know each other exist I guess :-)
[02:24] <dr_willis> check firewall rules "sudo iptables --list' on each box. if no rules.. (no firewall) then that points to the router settings.
[02:24] <ArcticM> dr_willis: the problem is that i dont know which one should I choose, they dont have any version difference or anything
[02:24] <lduros> dr_willis: ok thanks:-) it's some kind of linksys router, i"ll have to check the model
[02:25] <lduros> no rule nope, I'll try to plug the ubuntu one with ethernet, see if then it works
[02:26] <lduros> if it does then the router somehow does something when using wireless, it would sound like a security feature
[02:26] <dr_willis> lduros:  my router has a 'guest' wireless network and a normal network feature also.
[02:26] <lduros> hm
[02:27] <dr_willis> so anyone comming to my house sees 2 networks. :)  one 'bubba-guest' and 'bubba-keepout' :)
[02:28] <lduros> dr_willis: plugged the ubuntu laptop (ssh server) to ethernet, and now I can see it using nmap with the other laptop
[02:29] <lduros> so definitely a rule for wireless only
[02:31] <latyas> =w=
[02:31] <dr_willis> lduros:  on my wirleess router - the windows config tool has some settings i cant find in the routers web interface... which is VERY annoying.,.,
[02:31] <dr_willis> bye all.. bbl
[02:32] <latyas> this is my first time using IRC....
[02:33] <latyas> amazing..
[02:33] <sumosu> if i compile my kernel for core2duo... it will be a 64 bit kernel?
[02:34] <DrPenguin> sumosu: just because you compile for a processor it wont make it a 64bit kernel.. i believe there are 32bit core 2 duo procs
[02:34] <r_tarandus> How do I modify xorg.conf? Its my understanding that the newest Ubuntu might not even have an xorg file.
[02:35] <budy> pagi kk pro
[02:35] <dnew> ew
[02:37] <budy> ngga ada suaranya nih
[02:37] <sumosu> DrPenguin: but youre not sure?
[02:37] <DrPenguin> sumosu: no i am pretty sure there are 32bit core 2 duo processors
[02:38] <sumosu> DrPenguin: c2d processors have a 32 and a 64 bit mode
[02:38] <DrPenguin> … wha?
[02:38] <DrPenguin> that makes 0 sense
[02:38] <sumosu> DrPenguin: ?
[02:39] <DrPenguin> a Processor is either 32bit or 64bit
[02:39] <sumosu> core 2 duo is both
[02:39] <DrPenguin> i have a feeling you do not know what your talking about dude
[02:39] <ShawnRisk> I am using a Brother-HL-5250DN with Ubuntu 11.10 and not able to print at all, any reason why?
[02:39] <DrPenguin> ShawnRisk: did you install the driver
[02:40] <r_tarandus> ShawnRisk: Try going to your Printer settings (press super-key/windows, type Printer, click it) and see if your printer is listed. If not, click add
[02:40] <rypervenche> r_tarandus: You just make one. What kind of graphics card are you using?
[02:40] <sumosu> DrPenguin: uhm.. help me out then. c2d supports both 32 and 64 bit mode. there are processors that only support one or the other
[02:41] <DrPenguin> sumosu: dude, what is this with you and "mode"? A processor is either a 32bit or 64bit processor
[02:41] <DrPenguin> your processor isnt gonna "switch" modes, theres no notion of a mode
[02:41] <Fudge> anyone experience frequent nautilus crashes oneiric unity2d?
[02:41] <r_tarandus> rypervenche: some integrated intel one. where/how do i make one?
[02:42] <rypervenche> r_tarandus: You can run "sudo Xorg -configure" to make a generic one
[02:42] <rypervenche> r_tarandus: It will show up in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[02:43] <Guest6981> Using Ubuntu 11.10 Up-to-date on an Averatec 2500 laptop.  Can't get VLC to be the default player on videos over Banshee.   Have selected VLC as the Default player for videos in the Default Applications menu but it still opens all video files in Banshee on a double click...any thoughts?
[02:43] <allquixotic> DrPenguin: Do some research please; I think you are wrong about the modes of the processor. Assuming we're talking about EM64T processors here (which is every 64-bit processor produced by Intel for the x86_64 architecture), there is actually a concept of Long Mode vs Legacy Mode: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X86-64#Long_mode
[02:44] <r_tarandus> rypervenche: tried that, but terminal says--- Fatal server error:
[02:44] <r_tarandus> Server is already active for display 0
[02:44] <r_tarandus> 	If this server is no longer running, remove /tmp/.X0-lock
[02:44] <r_tarandus> 	and start again.
[02:44] <rypervenche> Guest6981: I never had any luck doing it that way. I think I had to do something like "open with..." and choose VLC to always open this type of file.
[02:44] <rypervenche> r_tarandus: Ah, which version of Ubuntu are you using?
[02:44] <r_tarandus> rypervenche: latest/oneiric 11.10
[02:44] <DrPenguin> allquixotic: thats at an OS level though
[02:44] <Guest6981> Ahhh, thx Rypercenche, takin a look at that now ^^
[02:44] <DrPenguin> allquixotic: NOT processor
[02:45] <xangua> Guestst6981 right clic on any video, properties and set vlc to be default
[02:45] <allquixotic> DrPenguin: No; when the operating system boots up, it actually causes the CPU to switch into one of the two modes (Long or Legacy).
[02:45] <rypervenche> r_tarandus: press ctrl+alt+F2, login as your user, then type "sudo service gdm3 stop" then "sudo Xorg -configure", then "sudo service gdm3 start", and it should automatically send you back to GDM, if not press ctl+alt+F7
[02:46] <sumosu> DrPenguin: uhm but it talks aboout "native 64 bit mode" explicitly
[02:46] <rypervenche> r_tarandus: This will stop your X session, so save anything you're using.
[02:46] <allquixotic> DrPenguin: Also, you are technically wrong that there exist "Core 2" processors that do not have EM64T support. However, there ARE Core "1" (there's not a 1 in the product name, but to distinguish it from Core 2, I put it there) based on the P6 architecture, which doesn't support EM64T (64-bit mode): http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Intel_microprocessors#Intel_Core
[02:46] <ShawnRisk> DrPenguin: yes
[02:46] <Guest6981> Thanks a bunch Rypercenche, that took care of it! ^^
[02:47] <DrPenguin> allquixotic: if your onna correct me, please do it right, we were talking about Core 2 processors
[02:47] <ShawnRisk> r_tarandus: no windows key but it is there
[02:47] <allquixotic> DrPenguin: Which is fine; but if that's the case, then I'm telling you that there does not exist any Core 2 processor ever officially manufactured by Intel that does not support the EM64T extensions which allow the CPU to boot into Long Mode and support x86-64 ISA.
[02:47] <DrPenguin> allquixotic: and yet again: these "cpu modes" are at the OS Level, not Processor level
[02:47] <DrPenguin> so your 0 for 2
[02:48] <sumosu> now we need a processor that is 64 bit but doesnt support 32 bit "mode" and the argument is done
[02:48] <Guest6981> o0
[02:48] <DrPenguin> sumosu: … you want a processor that has no 32bit support?
[02:48] <sumosu> DrPenguin: but you cant run 64 bit OS on a 32 bit only processor
[02:48] <andy_jin> q
[02:49] <DrPenguin> sumosu: um.. duh
[02:49] <r_tarandus> rypervenche: can you repeat those instructions again, please? i'm sorry. i pressed ctrl/alt/f2 before reading all the instructions and then it went fullscreen and i couldnt get out of it, so ended up rebooting.
[02:49] <sumosu> DrPenguin: so how can it be OS only?
[02:49] <allquixotic> DrPenguin: You can *call* them at the "OS level", but you're wrong, sorry. I guarantee you that there is an actual piece of circuitry in the hardware itself that causes it to switch between Long Mode and Legacy Mode. Therefore, it's hardware. Although, yes, there *is* a distinction between 32-bit and 64-bit at an OS level, that doesn't mean that the hardware is or isn't designed a particular way.
[02:49] <DrPenguin> allquixotic: fraid not, your the one whos wrong
[02:49] <DrPenguin> andi m not gonna get into some childish argument
[02:49] <sumosu> DrPenguin: uhm yea... processors without 32 bit support. i thought they were out already
[02:50] <allquixotic> The reason there has to be a piece of circuitry is because the instruction decoder, the branch predictor, and basically *everything* to do with the high-level ISA on Intel processors involves a hardware decoder, and that hardware decoder is different depending on which ISA you're decoding (x86 or x86-64). Because at its very core, an Intel CPU is actually a RISC processor.
[02:50] <DrPenguin> sumosu: I have never heard of a 64bit processor that has no 32bit support, imo that sounds like it would be foolish considering how widespread 32bit is still used
[02:50] <ShawnRisk> I am using CUPS by the way
[02:50] <urlin2u> allquixotic, whether right or wrong you and the other two are offtopic
[02:51] <r_tarandus> sumosu: I've never heard of a 64bit processor that has no 32bit support either. If it is available, it's not widely available for the average consumer. That would be a bad move for any processor company
[02:51] <DrPenguin> urlin2u: yeah your right, sorry about that
[02:52] <rypervenche> r_tarandus: press ctrl+alt+F2, login as your user, then type "sudo service gdm3 stop" then "sudo Xorg -configure", then "sudo service gdm3 start", and it should automatically send you back to GDM, if not press ctl+alt+F7
[02:52] <r_tarandus> okay, so ctrl+alt+f7 gets me out of it? cool. thank you.
[02:53] <rypervenche> r_tarandus: Yes.
[02:53] <DrPenguin> rypervenche: doing that though, I odnt believe Xorg -configure sticks the resulting conf file in /etc/X11
[02:53] <r_tarandus> DrPenguin, rypervenche: what would you suggest then?
[02:54] <DrPenguin> rypervenche: unless your ust trying to get some basic one then cool beans
[02:54] <sumosu> r_tarandus: processors not being fully 16 bit "IBM compatible" wouldnt make anyone care
[02:54] <DrPenguin> r_tarandus: i missed what youve been trying to do, are you trying to make a xorg.conf you can configure?
[02:55] <r_tarandus> DrPenguin, rypervenche: If you're wondering what I'm even trying to get done: I'm trying to rotate my screen. In the forums (link: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1557961) it says that I need to include an option in the Xorg file to do so.
[02:55] <rypervenche> r_tarandus: Oh, it may stick it in /root, in which case you'd need to do "sudo mv /root/xorg.conf /etc/X11/"
[02:55] <DrPenguin> r_tarandus: if your using the Xrandr extension, then yeah its Option "Rotate" "direction" under Monitor section
[02:55] <rypervenche> r_tarandus: Yes, you need Xrandr.
[02:55] <DrPenguin> for Xinerama.. I think Xinerama is done in the ServerLayout Section?
[02:56] <DrPenguin> … or wayt.. it may still be done in the Monitor Section..crap why cant I remember
[02:56] <sumosu> but a little bit back to the topic.. there are no 64 bit kernel sources, so  how are they compiled for 64 bit systems?:)
[02:56] <r_tarandus> DrPenguin, rypervenche: is there a shortcut key to rotate the screen, though? or could I set that up somewhere.. hm..
[02:56] <rypervenche> r_tarandus: You could make one in your keyboard shortcuts.
[02:56] <DrPenguin> r_tarandus: there is none, you could probably program one, but the X Server needs to be restarted
[02:57] <sumosu> my silly guess was that you selecet c2d/xeon and it compiles 64 bit but that is just a wildest guess:)
[02:57] <ben__> DrPenguin, ok...kino works when I run it as root using gksudo kino and capatures my 1394 data from my video camera but it stops @ 700 MB...is there a way that I can make the raw1394 available so that I can use it w/ out becoming root?
[02:58] <DrPenguin> r_tarandus: under a Xrandr enabled server, you do this by using the xrandr command. But for Xinerama, you need to manually edit the X Server conf file and restart X
[02:58] <andy_jin> hi all
[02:58] <DrPenguin> ben__: your probably gonna have to use sudo
[02:58] <r_tarandus> DrPenguin: pretty sure I'm using Xrandr. so how would I find out what the command is?
[02:58] <ben__> DrPenguin, why does it stop though after 700 MB?
[02:58] <felipe_Brz> when using a2enmod <foo> to enable an apache2 module, does <foo> need to be in the mods-available folder prior to that?
[02:58] <DrPenguin> r_tarandus: its xrandr :P
[02:59] <DrPenguin> ben__: not sure.. is there anything in /var/log or in dmesg? my first thought is maybe your filling up some buffer
[02:59] <DrkShadow> How can I get source for packages?..
[02:59] <DrkShadow> I need php-mysql
[02:59] <DrPenguin> DrkShadow: if you want the source from apt, apt-get source should do the trick
[02:59] <DrkShadow> oh. Thanks :-)
[02:59] <sumosu> i came here for a question too actually... i want 1 of my harddrives to go to suspend mode as soon as possible. i learned the hdparm -S command but i would like that command to be issued on startup, unfortunately it needs sudo
[02:59] <DrPenguin> or just google around, usually websites (including the people who made the thing you want) will host source tarballs
[03:00] <r_tarandus> DrPenguin: sorry, but I'm confused. Do I type Xrandr into Terminal? I'm trying to figure out keyboard shortcuts that'll allow me to rotate my screen clockwise/counterclockwise
[03:00] <DrPenguin> sumosu: you can edit sudoers in a way that it doesnt require a password for the access raise
[03:00] <DrkShadow> ... where does `apt-get source` unpack things to/
[03:00] <DrPenguin> r_tarandus: yeah, the command for using xrandr from a terminal is xrandr.. I think the command for rotation is xrandr -o direction, left right or inverted
[03:01] <iqbalkhan> excuse me all,,
[03:01] <DrPenguin> DrkShadow: I think… /usr/src?
[03:01] <ben__> Does anyone know how to install Ubuntu Studio Controls on 11.10?
[03:01] <DrkShadow> DrPenguin: nope :-/ not for php at least.
[03:01] <DrPenguin> DrkShadow: sorry, Ive only used apt-get source for kernel sources
[03:01] <iqbalkhan> anyone know the command to know my cdrom player support for burning double layer DVD?
[03:01] <DrkShadow> ah. Well, thanks :-) It _did_ get the source.
[03:01] <iandalton> I uninstalled various unity and gnome packages and now lightdm doesn't start at startup (but is still installed). How do I set it to start at startup?
[03:01] <DrPenguin> there should be a cache folder for apt in var.. look in there
[03:02] <DrPenguin> I think /var/apt/cache?
[03:02] <trism> DrkShadow: it unpacks it to the current directory
[03:02] <DrkShadow> trism: awww crap...
[03:02] <rypervenche> r_tarandus: looks like "xrandr --rotate left" or something like that would work.
[03:02] <DrPenguin> oh lol thts even simpler
[03:02] <DrkShadow> ok, got it.. thanks :-)
[03:02] <DrPenguin> cheers trism
[03:03] <r_tarandus> lol, i got it down to go right/left/inverted.... trying to figure out the one ot make it go back to normal
[03:03] <r_tarandus> stuck tilting my head right now. classic.
[03:03] <DrPenguin> r_tarandus: xrandr -o normal should be it.. the xrandr help file should tell you all possible rotations
[03:03] <sumosu> DrPenguin: hmm im googling but this doesnt add up to a solution....
[03:04] <rypervenche> r_tarandus: I found all of that out just by "man xrandr"
[03:04] <r_tarandus> DrPenguin, thank you. As always, a tremendous help.
[03:04] <r_tarandus> rypervenche, you too! thanks.
[03:04] <DrPenguin> r_tarandus: glad to be of service
[03:05] <DrPenguin> sumosu: if you google just about the sudoers file, you should be able to find the info neeed
[03:07] <sumosu> i dont get it
[03:07] <ben__> DrPenguin, ....I think its a security limit that is set somewhere based on my googling
[03:08] <DrPenguin> ben__: seriously? that sucks hard
[03:09] <ben__> DrPenguin, ...nope...looks like it can be configured but it can only be done as a non-root member...
[03:09] <ben__> unbelievable
[03:09] <DrPenguin> a "non" root member?
[03:09] <DrPenguin> basically anyone who isnt root?
[03:10] <rypervenche> ben__: Then use duckduckgo :)
[03:10] <ben__> DrPenguin, yup that what I meant
[03:11] <ben__> rypervenche, working on it
[03:11] <ben__> this has been a process
[03:11] <DrPenguin> ben__: besides that sounding likea weird implementation, whys that a rpbolem?
[03:12] <ben__> DrPenguin, well, the videos are like 60 minutes long....I got to run as a non-root member w/ security permissions to record longer than like 700 MB worth
[03:13] <iqbalkhan> hello guys, anyone can help? :)
[03:13] <DrPenguin> ben__: so as your user execing the command with sudo? I dont get the issue
[03:13] <ben__> DrPenguin, running kino as root is only allowing me 700 MB of video and then stopping
[03:14] <DrPenguin> ben__: I get that
[03:14] <ben__> DrPenguin, I need to run as non-root member w/ security permissions turned off in order to allow it to capture more video
[03:14] <ben__> DrPenguin, ..I also need to go out and buy a terrabyte drive
[03:14] <DrPenguin> ben__: .. so your user with sudo?
[03:15] <ben__> DrPenguin, good idea....I never thought of that
[03:15] <ben__> DrPenguin, ...wow I'm not the smartest tool in the shed
[03:16] <urlin2u> So anybody seen a way to remove the Unity global menubar extension for Firefox and Thunderbird?
[03:16] <DrPenguin> ben__: nah man!
[03:16] <DrPenguin> dont say that
[03:17] <ben__> Alright, sudo kino results in "raw1394 module not loaded or failure to read/write...
[03:17] <DrPenguin> ben__: well we know the module is loaded.. so its the latter
[03:17] <ben__> DrPenguin, yup, its a security permissions thing....look @ Security Notes section of https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Firewire
[03:18] <vsingh165> anyone having issues with oneiric not being able to authenticate the release repository?  mine keeps saying there's a bad GPG key
[03:18] <xangua> !gpgerr | vsingh165
[03:18] <ben__> DrPenguin, ...I'm just gonna install Ubuntu Studio and attempt to change the read/write permissions of raw1394
[03:19] <DrPenguin> sorry bro, I dont have much exp with Firewire
[03:19] <urlin2u> vsingh165, pastebin the error
[03:20] <ben__> DrPenguin, ..it's alright..I ran kino as root and was able to capture from my camera so I know I'm close to getting this
[03:20] <ben__> DrPenguin, ....I'm installing UbuntuStudio now...man that program is HUGE!
[03:21] <vsingh165> http://pastebin.com/8U09Kqt1
[03:21] <vsingh165> and the funny thing is, it's not some extra repository
[03:21] <vsingh165> it's the release repository for the distribution
[03:21] <urlin2u> vsingh165, you see the bot instructions and how to get the key set?
[03:22] <vsingh165> tried that...didn't fix the issue
[03:22] <vsingh165> and I did it for both of the bad keys reported in the pastebin I just posted
[03:22] <vsingh165> let me try deleting and re-adding the release repo
[03:25] <vsingh165> that didn't work
[03:25] <vsingh165> I've gone ahead and deleted all the keys for a fresh start
[03:27] <ManUb> hi there
[03:28] <ManUb> anyone has used this daemontools before http://cr.yp.to/daemontools/supervise.html?
[03:28] <ManUb> I want to know how to make ./run file if it's not existed before
[03:28] <ManUb> thanks
[03:29] <Bahry> help! :)
[03:30] <yshi> is it common for transparency to fake with gnome 3 in 11.10? im having trouble finding anything searching
[03:31] <Xenicide> Someone who is a little advance?
[03:35] <Xenicide> But somebody should run Xchat= right?
[03:36] <eugman> Hi all. My harddrive is broken and I'm trying to recover some information from it but it won't mount. Would anyone be willing to look at the results from dmesg? I've been trying to google bits of the results but I'm honestly lost. http://pastebin.com/iTkfxRDX
[03:36] <yshi> is there anything particular i should be running to use transparency with gnome 3 classic view?
[03:37] <rypervenche> eugman: Sure
[03:37] <eugman> thank you very much
[03:38] <Xenicide> eugman, so you dont have a tried with a live cd?
[03:38] <tray76> yshi, i'm not exactly sure but I was tinkering when I first got GNOME3 and I changed the theme to Adwaita and that helped.
[03:39] <tray76> then again, there were other things I did too and I'm sorry to say I don't recall all of them. Still, worth trying until someone else can get to you
[03:39] <yshi> that is really strange and i will try now
[03:40] <eugman> Xenicide: I have it in a external harddrive bay
[03:40] <MTecknology> How can I turn off swap in the installer environment? I tried running swapoff -a but swap stays active.
[03:40] <yshi> tray76, thanks for that but no dice
[03:41] <yshi> would switching from mutter to compiz help?
[03:41] <fizk_>  When I minimize Libre Office, I can't access it anymore
[03:41] <fizk_> The Gnome toolbar doesn't recognize when Libre Office documents are open
[03:43] <urlin2u> fizk_, what release are you running?
[03:43] <fizk_> urlin2u,  11.10
[03:43] <urlin2u> fizk_, so it is the fallback desktop?
[03:44] <Bahry> Hello, I have just used drik's boot and nuke on my compaq 6720s latpop. once done i tried booting from an ubuntu 11.4 cd, it ran well, until i clicked on install, and it froze. black screen. I thought maybe the cd reader is busted or so, so i made a usb with ubuntu startupdisk creator, and i booted from it, a small menu with a black background appeared, with almost 2 ubuntu logos on it (they
[03:44] <Bahry> seem on tile mode or something, i dono), and when i press install ubuntu, black screen again. nothing, ctrl shift (or was it ctrlalt!?) 1 o 6 shows nothing, the esc button shows nothing! HELP!
[03:44] <fizk_> urlin2u, no it's the main desktop
[03:44] <blackshirt> hello, how to configure apt to work over https (443 port) ??
[03:44] <urlin2u> fizk_, unity or gnome 3?
[03:45] <Xenicide> eugman: where do you bott from?
[03:45] <fizk_> urlin2u, unity
[03:45] <urlin2u> fizk_, the libreoffice should be showing in the unity bar on the left.
[03:46] <Xenicide> Xchat... where do you remove the annoying join/part?
[03:46] <fizk_> urlin2u, let's say I uncheck "Keep in launcher"
[03:46] <urlin2u> fizk_, it is not meant to show in the top panel if that is where your looking.
[03:46] <pp7> why do windows from programs that have been open for a while lag when moving?
[03:46] <pp7> no lag for new windows
[03:47] <fizk_> urlin2u, when I open a libre office document, it won't appear in the launcher automatically like most other programs do
[03:47] <atc3030> help
[03:48] <xangua> fizk_: tried to reset unity¿
[03:48] <fizk_> urlin2u, how?
[03:48] <urlin2u> fizk_, are you sure, it should be there when you open a document.
[03:49] <fizk_> urlin2u, it's not there
[03:49] <urlin2u> fizk_, whether keep in launcher or not is ticked
[03:50] <urlin2u> fizk_, appears to be a bug add your info if you want, I use docky at the bottom myself. https://lists.launchpad.net/desktop-packages/msg58009.html
[03:50] <fizk_> urlin2u, it doesn't show up when I press ALT+TAB either
[03:51] <Xenicide> the green text?
[03:51] <lotus-blade> ok I have my bookmarks and everything backed up from firefox, but I do not see anywhere to import them to.  how do I do this?
[03:51] <fizk_> urlin2u, thanks
[03:52] <xangua> lotus-blade: from the bookmarks menu
[03:52] <lotus-blade> where is is not in there
[03:52] <ben__> Where are virtual box images stored at?  I'd like to have the image pointed to a place on Drop box so that I can work on two machines w/ no difference ...is that possible?
[03:52] <xangua> lotus-blade: bookmarks menu - show all
[03:52] <urlin2u> fizk_, no problem hope that gets fixed, you could try running unity --replace it resets the dektop to stock.
[03:52] <urlin2u> desktop*
[03:52] <Xenicide> wtf some upgradinng popuped up...
[03:53] <lotus-blade> and there is no import or restore there
[03:53] <xangua> !language | Xenicide
[03:53] <xangua> lotus-blade:  there is
[03:53] <urlin2u> !wtf | Xenicide
[03:53] <fizk_> urlin2u, interesting, i ran unity --replace and I see libre office in the unity toolbar now
[03:54] <Bahry> Hello, I have just used drik's boot and nuke on my compaq 6720s latpop. once done i tried booting from an ubuntu 11.4 cd, it ran well, until i clicked on install, and it froze. black screen. I thought maybe the cd reader is busted or so, so i made a usb with ubuntu startupdisk creator, and i booted from it, a small menu with a black background appeared, with almost 2 ubuntu logos on it (they
[03:54] <Bahry> seem on tile mode or something, i dono), and when i press install ubuntu, black screen again. nothing, ctrl shift (or was it ctrlalt!?) 1 o 6 shows nothing, the esc button shows nothing! HELP!
[03:54] <urlin2u> fizk_, cool.
[03:54] <fizk_> urlin2u, but clicking it doesn't bring up the minimized document
[03:54] <lotus-blade> found it.  it was in an overhead menu
[03:55] <urlin2u> fizk_, open a blank libreoffice and see if the other shows.
[03:55] <cruzer> Dose a users crontab run even if the user is not logged in?
[03:55] <urlin2u> ben__, home/virtualbox vm's
[03:56] <airman00> hi, I'm monitoring TCP packets that are being sent from a cellular device to my perl server. In tcptrack, I'm seeing connections to the server that have the State CLOSING and Idle of >30 seconds. What could be causing these connections to linger for so long? The sockets are being closed on the cellular devices end, but its like these connections are just staying around and not flushing.
[03:56] <Xenicide> Xanguav; ubottu ;urlin2u : mu bad...
[03:56] <urlin2u> Xenicide, easy mistake. :D
[03:58] <tray76> hypothetical question; which is the better solution, installing sks and setting up your own keyhost for users at work, or having users at work use an existing public server
[03:58] <Xenicide> "Show join/part message
[03:59] <Xenicide> urlin2u, tanks.. just a litttle frustrated
[04:00] <Xenicide> Show join/part message
[04:03] <Bublik2002> anyone running ubuntu on their macbook pro in place of mac osx?
[04:04] <Evanescence> Can you paste default "hosts" file content ? Mine is covered by commmand "cp". I want to recover it.
[04:04] <Xenicide> I gess alot need help instlling lunux.
[04:07] <Xenicide> shold i keep ubunto or reinstall winxp?
[04:07] <lose> ahm
[04:08] <urlin2u> Xenicide, you can have both whats going on I mossed it if you posted it already.
[04:08] <urlin2u> missed*
[04:08] <Evanescence> Does anybody can paste default hosts file ?
[04:08] <kcj> Which version of the nvidia blob should/can I use with a "geforce4 440 go"?
[04:08] <urlin2u> Xenicide, you wipe the XP with a install
[04:09] <_cb> read that in order to play yahoo games one needs to install Sun Java, is that true?
[04:09] <Bublik2002> anyone running ubuntu on a macbook pro?
[04:09] <airman00> Bublik2002: VM?
[04:09] <skilz> hey im trying toplay a dvd with totem and i get this error "Could not read DVD. This may be because the DVD is encrypted and a DVD decryption library is not installed."
[04:09] <Bublik2002> i have it running in vm now.. but i mean as a main os
[04:10] <Xenicide> urlin2u, no i made a clean install.
[04:10] <ManUb> hi how you ping back to your own computer inside openstack instances
[04:10] <urlin2u> skilz, not sure about totem a dvd's but did t=you install the restricted extras
[04:10] <urlin2u> and/you*
[04:11] <cruzer> Will a users hourly cron job run even if the user is not logged in?
[04:11] <zedoul> ah
[04:11] <urlin2u> Xenicide, so you can have both, if ubuntu is new for you I would keep the XP, it helps to have both if needed.
[04:12] <arooni-mobile> my page up/down buttons are currently not working on my keyboard.... is there a way to 1) change key shortcut for terminal app's switch tabs function (normallyu control + page up) and 2) same for chrome?
[04:12] <skilz> urlin2u: how do i install restricted extras?
[04:13] <Xenicide> urlin2u, no, i dont want windows....
[04:14] <urlin2u> skilz, open the ubuntu software center and type restricted in and install the one that mentions your desktop.
[04:14] <Xenicide> urlin2u, i jjust nmeed to learn..
[04:14] <urlin2u> Xenicide, did you install ubuntu from XP or from a booted live cd or usb thumb?
[04:15] <_rockbot_> Hi there, i just installed 11.10 on my laptop and after about an hour my keyboard totally froze. I cant seem to input text anywhere, though the mouse works okay
[04:15] <_rockbot_> Thoughts?
[04:16] <Xenicide> urlin2u,  clean install from liveCD
[04:16] <Bahry> urlin2u Xenicide, i think having both or only one depends on what you do with ur computer. I mean huge softwares like adobe suite, autocad..., and advanced visual swtwares, they are always better on windows. word and the office suite, well i always found problems with my files when sending to other ppl
[04:17] <urlin2u> _rockbot_, have you unplugged it if you can and replugged it, were hyou running a lot of apps?
[04:17] <urlin2u> Xenicide, if grub is the bootloader then you can wipe it with gparted in ubuntu, you will have to instal gparted, it is a partitoner.
[04:18] <urlin2u> Bahry, I don't even really use windows never have and I have it installed to help its users.
[04:19] <Bublik2002> anyone switch from mac os x to ubuntu full time?
[04:19] <Bahry> urlin2u, i understand, but i have hate for microsoft and its products, and even though i sometimes need them and use them, i feel free when my pc has only ubuntu installed! it is liberating
[04:19] <urlin2u> Bublik2002, this is ubuntu support not what your using it for.
[04:20] <Xenicide> urlin2u,  dunno, no programs... annoying to instastall every time.
[04:20] <Bublik2002> urlin2u: what am i using it for?
[04:20] <urlin2u> Bublik2002, not support, but polling.
[04:21] <Bublik2002> who the hell needs support.. its so easy to use
[04:21] <urlin2u> !language | Bublik2002
[04:21] <Bublik2002> lo are you serious?
[04:21] <ben_> how do I tell if Ubuntu Studio controls is installed?
[04:21] <aeon-ltd> yes
[04:22] <Bublik2002> ok im sorry
[04:22] <Bublik2002> anyway keep up the good work... im off to bed
[04:22] <Xenicide> urlin2u,  this is my 2nd reinstall in 3 days..
[04:23] <urlin2u> Xenicide, so why the reinstalls
[04:23] <urlin2u> tualatrix, viva ubuntu tweak
[04:24] <Bahry> urlin2u can u help me here a bit plz?
[04:24] <urlin2u> Bahry, I can try whats up?
[04:24] <tualatrix> urlin2u, ?
 Hello, I have just used drik's boot and nuke on my compaq 6720s latpop. once done i tried booting from an ubuntu 11.4 cd, it ran well, until i clicked on install, and it froze. black screen. I thought maybe the cd reader is busted or so, so i made a usb with ubuntu startupdisk creator, and i booted from it, a small menu with a black background appeared, with almost 2 ubuntu logos on it
[04:24] <Bahry> (they seem on tile mode or something, i dono), and when i press install ubuntu, black screen again. nothing, ctrl shift (or was it ctrlalt!?) 1 o 6 shows nothing, the esc button shows nothing! HELP!
[04:25] <Xenicide> urlin2u, sceen goes black...
[04:26] <urlin2u> Xenicide, okay, sounds like a graphic drover needed, not a strong area for me, when does it go black? Have you looked at additional drivers in the menu?
[04:26] <alien2050> bahry: try the "alternate install DVD" at least you will be able to install and troubleshoot your GFX afterwards
[04:26] <wildcrazyhorse> My Ubuntu 11.04 Natty is locking up my computer often. The screen freezes but the mouse still moves around. I have to cold reboot the computer and start all over again. What can I do to fix this problem?
[04:27] <urlin2u> Bahry, goes black from the live cd's desktop on hitting the install button?
[04:27] <Xenicide> BTW i got /boot/ / /heome / and  swap
[04:28] <Xenicide> urlin2u,  after bios... understand?
[04:28] <urlin2u> Bahry, I think alien2050 advice is good
[04:28] <Bahry> urlin2u while using cd, i was logged into the try ubuntu thing, and everything went well, visually
[04:28] <Bahry> so i dont know if it is graphix
[04:28] <urlin2u> Xenicide, check out the next bot message I will send to you.
[04:29] <urlin2u> !nomodeset | Xenicide
[04:29] <urlin2u> Bahry, you know the graphic card?
[04:30] <Bahry> urlin2u nop, i dont know, its a laptop, compaq 6720a
[04:30] <Bahry> s
[04:30] <Bahry> s**
[04:30] <alien2050> nomodeset is easy to enable actually, just hit E to edit your grub entry when booting then go down and right after "ro" or "2" just type nomodeset; I use it all the time with stubborn nvidia drivers on laptops like GTX 560, G310, etc
[04:30] <urlin2u> Bahry, with the live cd booted run this command it will tell you.  lspci | grep VGA
[04:31] <Bahry> urlin2u am using usb now!
[04:31] <urlin2u> Bahry, usb is a live cd
[04:31] <Bahry> ok
[04:31] <Bahry> :)
[04:31] <alien2050> you will at least be able to try it and validate
[04:31] <Xenicide> urlin2u, nomodd
[04:31] <Xenicide> mode
[04:32] <Xenicide> i tried that
[04:32] <Bahry> urlin2u how to i get to the command prompt?? from the menu?!
[04:32] <Bahry> esc gives me boot:
[04:33] <urlin2u> Xenicide, nomodeset  it can be inserted in a kernel of a install or run on a live cd boot, to get you in to update and upgrade if installed and then look in additional drivers to see if a driver is available.
[04:33] <wildcrazyhorse> does anyone know of a fix for this problem?
[04:33] <Xenicide> btw i dont goot anu boot, grup ot otherwize..
[04:34] <urlin2u> Bahry, the top bitton of the left panel is called the dash hit it and type terminal
[04:34] <lose> ahm
[04:34] <themaster> EHLO
[04:34] <edbian> EHLO
[04:34] <urlin2u> WildCraze, what is your conputers ram and chip speed?
[04:34] <urlin2u> computers*
[04:35] <wildcrazyhorse> let me look
[04:35] <edbian> computer's*
[04:36] <urlin2u> edbian, computer is sorry I don't think so.
[04:36] <jinjonBoo> hey there
[04:36] <Xenicide> Its goes likes this; - start- from cd- re-install.
[04:36] <edbian> jincreator, hello
[04:37] <jinjonBoo> anyone minimally expert in networking/security for a quick question? :> thx^
[04:37] <edbian> jincreator, what's the question?
[04:37] <alien2050> jinjonboo: just ask :)
[04:37] <urlin2u> Xenicide, did you look at the link from the bot?
[04:38] <Xenicide> Its goes likes this; - start- from cd- re-install.
[04:38] <jinjonBoo> how hard is it to hack a Mac, beeing in the same network as he is? (knowing his IP at least). with hacking i mean.. access the hard-drive, or part of it :>
[04:39] <urlin2u> jinjonBoo, wrong channel for that.
[04:39] <jincreator> edbian: Umm...What question?
[04:39] <alien2050> hehehe
[04:39] <edbian> jinjonBoo, PM me
[04:39] <edbian> jincreator, I meant to say that to jinjonBoo
[04:39] <Xenicide> urlin2u, well the cd isnt going to do anything...
[04:39] <edbian> jincreator, sorry :P
[04:39] <jincreator> edbian: Oh, I see. Have a nice day! :)
[04:40] <Bahry> urlin2u, nop nothing, this is weird: the version am installing is 11.04! I am not downloading 10.4. or should i get 11.10? is that latter any stable? or is it lts? will it be?! anyway! it was the only version i found offline! the grub menu is weird. like if it wasnt grub at all! the options name is installer boot meny, on it are install, check disk for defects, test memory, boot from first
[04:40] <Bahry> harddisk, advanced options tht containts rescue a broken system, and help. one i hit install, or any other thing, the screen goest white for a second, with a blinking cursor, then bam!
[04:40] <Xenicide> btw ci install fom the cd every time...
[04:41] <alien2050> bahry: I would recommend you have a look at ubuntu studio (latest is 11.10); it's very nice and is what I'm running here with no prob; very stable
[04:42] <Bahry> urlin2u SORRY about the last sentence on the first line. I am downloading 10.4 and thinking about 11.10
[04:42] <wildcrazyhorse> alien...was that message for me? about studio?
[04:42] <alien2050> wild: ... nope
[04:43] <wildcrazyhorse> where is the file located at?  url?
[04:43] <alien2050> wild: not sure I understand your problem... more info needed
[04:43] <Bahry> alien2050 i c! the thing is i have learned, from a 5 year experience to stick with lts versions! Id rather not test, due to the nature of my work, I cannot afford to troubleshoot alot.
[04:43] <wildcrazyhorse> looking up memory info on my system now....
[04:44] <Bahry> alien2050 what that about the alternative. this is new i dont understand it
[04:44] <alien2050> bahry: that would be true with MS products... but I've been following Ubuntu since version 8 and seriously, they're making one of the best linux everytime
[04:45] <Xenicide> i check it..
[04:45] <alien2050> ok some stuff changes (right now it's the era for a window manager battle) but the core doesn't; it almost never crashes
[04:46] <sagarchalise> HI guys I donot know if it belongs here but is there any way to escape smileys while chatting. I need to paste some codes but they turn to smileys on empathy ?
[04:46] <urlin2u> Bahry, are you able to get to a live desktop?
[04:46] <alien2050> I'd say since 2.6 (and now 3.0) the kernel is just... good!
[04:46] <wildcrazyhorse> memory = 747.6 MiB and I have 2 processors Intel Pentium 4 CPU 3.00GHz
[04:47] <Xenicide> urlin2u, got no boot
[04:47] <Bahry> alien2050, so should i stop downloading 10.4?
[04:47] <Bahry> urlin2u come again?! what does that mean?
[04:47] <alien2050> it's also good... depends on what you do with your pc
[04:48] <edbian> sagarchalise, empathy does not actually change the characters.  It simply shows them to you as simileys.  The person you're talking to is using some chat client.  We don't know if that chat client is changing the characters into smilies or not.  But changing your software won't change that
[04:48] <alien2050> I like 10.04 because they didn't touch the MIDI driver system until 10.10
[04:48] <Bahry> browsing, word pdf remote access, music video, viewing editing making, .... online softwares..., nothing huge i think
[04:48] <wildcrazyhorse> my 10.04 is locking up on me now daily....
[04:48] <alien2050> Got some python midi libs that stopped working after 10.10.... still working on a fix...
[04:48] <urlin2u> Bahry, using a usb with a live cd loaded should take you to a live desktop if you hit try ubuntu. Is this where you get the black screen, by hitting install or try?
[04:49] <alien2050> wild: could be your GFX... what is it ?
[04:49] <Bahry> alien2050 browsing, word pdf remote access, music video, viewing editing making, .... online softwares..., nothing huge i think
[04:49] <wildcrazyhorse> I am sorry, I am running 11.04
[04:49] <alien2050> 10.04 is good, and it's LTS so you can expect pactches for a long time
[04:49] <Xenicide> btw is linux so lame...
[04:50] <wildcrazyhorse> ever since I upgraded to this version, my system keeps locking up from time to time....versions before this worked just fine!!!
[04:50] <alien2050> but forget new desktop systems, they are a pain to inst
[04:50] <Bahry> urlin2u i am getting none of that. once i boot from usb, i get the meny i describes, black, with 2 ubuntu white logs, and no try ubuntu no tnothing. just an installer boot menu with install, check dic, test memory boot from first hdd, advanced option and help
[04:50] <alien2050> it's possible but difficult... I like gnome-shell, not everyone likes it but I do, and 11.10 is just perfect for it
[04:51] <urlin2u> Bahry, how did you load the usb?
[04:52] <Bahry> urlin2u, f9 on first screen, chose boot from usb harddisk
[04:52] <Bahry> got to small black menu
[04:52] <Bahry> :S
[04:52] <alien2050> bahry: what are your specs?
[04:52] <alien2050> gfx
[04:52] <urlin2u> Bahry, no how did load ubuntu to the usb?
[04:53] <alien2050> intel, nvidia, amd ?
[04:53] <Bahry> urlin2u normally, followed the online thing
[04:53] <Xenicide> urlin2u, what boot?
[04:53] <intok> anyone have any idea why I get a blank screen when dropping to a terminal using ctrl+alt+f1? GPU is a Geforce 6200 PCI
[04:53] <Xenicide> from the commmande?
[04:54] <urlin2u> Bahry, when you power on tap tap the shift key immediately until you see a earlier gui that says install try ubuntu memory test hit the f6 key choose nomodeset and boot in to the live desktop.
[04:55] <Xenicide> so hard...
[04:55] <Bahry> urlin2u, oi used lili usb creator
[04:55] <Bahry> alien2050 intel
[04:55] <Bahry> alien2050 i dont know graphix
[04:55] <alien2050> xen: nah it's not hard... you just need to practice a little, and the mentality is not the same than MS
[04:56] <alien2050> bahry: try "lspci"
[04:56] <alien2050> it should show up
[04:56] <alien2050> from a command prompt
[04:56] <Bahry> alien2050 this menu am at gives me no access to a command line
[04:56] <Bahry> if i press escape it takes me to a command line saying boot:
[04:57] <alien2050> which cd/dvd did you burn
[04:57] <urlin2u> !nomodeset | Bahry
[04:58] <alien2050> bahry: you need to boot at least once and get to either a gui or hit CTRL-ALT-Fx (x=1,2,3,4,5etc) and get to a prompt
[04:58] <Bahry> alien2050 urlin2u, pressing shift on power got me to a message saying unknown keyword in configuration file: gfxboot
[04:59] <Bahry> then boot:
[04:59] <kcj> I can't install nvidia-96 with out it removing xorg. Can I install it somehow?
[04:59] <alien2050> at "boot:", try tyep "linux"
[04:59] <alien2050> and enter
[04:59] <Bahry> could not find kernel image alien2050
[04:59] <alien2050> otherwise you don't seem to have the right CD/DVD burned
[05:00] <alien2050> USB or CD ?
[05:00] <Bahry> alien2050 i c
[05:00] <Bahry> usb
[05:00] <alien2050> ah!
[05:00] <Bahry> ?
[05:00] <Bahry> :)
[05:00] <urlin2u> Bahry, okay tap the shift after you use the f9 to boot the cd.
[05:00] <alien2050> that's a different ball game
[05:00] <Bahry> i did urlin
[05:00] <alien2050> Did you burn it with "unetbootlin"
[05:00] <alien2050> ?
[05:00] <alien2050> if not, you should
[05:00] <alien2050> it's wayyyyy easier
[05:01] <Bahry> i pressed after choosing boot from usb, and then after entering my password. i have a password for the computer at the begining
[05:01] <Bahry> urlin2u
[05:01] <Xenicide85> is linux always so flawed?
[05:01] <urlin2u> alien2050, not sure you can get to a nomodeset if needed with unetbootin I believe its bootloader bypasses the first gui.
[05:01] <Bahry> alien2050 i used lili
[05:02] <alien2050> yes you can, I do it all the time
[05:02] <alien2050> with unetbootlin
[05:02] <Bahry> lili usb creator
[05:02] <Bahry> ok
[05:02] <alien2050> bahry: try unetbootlin
[05:02] <Bahry> so download 10.04
[05:02] <urlin2u> alien2050, cool I have never had to get to that try install memory from unstbootin.
[05:02] <Bahry> ok untebootlin
[05:02] <Bahry> and then?! should it work all by itself? no gfx problems?!?
[05:02] <urlin2u> alien2050, to f6 to nomodeset.
[05:03] <alien2050> urlin: it's actually quite cool once you see that in action, that's how I boot my sys
[05:03] <alien2050> no HD necessary
[05:03] <alien2050> all in RAM
[05:03] <alien2050> and it's super fast
[05:04] <Bahry> ok alien2050
[05:04] <alien2050> bahry: depends on the actual specs of your PC/laptop
[05:04] <alien2050> I'd say 90% of the time it'll be fine
[05:04] <Bahry> kool
[05:04] <alien2050> If your PC is recent, go for 11.10
[05:04] <Bahry> thanx guys
[05:04] <Bahry> nah, its like 3 years old! or even 4
[05:05] <alien2050> hmmm... then try 10.04
[05:05] <Bahry> will do!
[05:05] <alien2050> maybe even 9.10; I still run it on an old laptop and it's fine
[05:06] <Bahry> well alien2050 10.4 ran well on the ame pc before. i havent had ubuntu on pc in 1 year. i cant w8 for it to work! :)
[05:06] <alien2050> but if you have a good GFX like nvidia for instance, definitely go for 10.04 or 11.10
[05:06] <alien2050> good luck, if you have any more problems come back to the channel, we're here to help!
[05:06] <Xenicide85> ididnt see it, some fucked upp ubuntu
[05:06] <Bahry> alien2050 i think the gfx is good. could be nvidia!
[05:06] <Bahry> will do
[05:07] <Bahry> thank u alien2050 and urlin2u, see u in a short while
[05:07] <alien2050> it should show up in the BIOS, otherwise
[05:07] <Xenicide85> even if i have btub i cant see it.
[05:07] <alien2050> once you boot your live cd, open a terminal and type "dmidecode" or "lspci"
[05:07] <alien2050> it'll show up
[05:17] <dagerik> I have bought air contained in a box. I am going to clean my laptop as I am sure it is a lot of dust inside it. Do I just shove air inside the fan holes?
[05:17] <dagerik> Or how should I clean it?
[05:19] <edbian> dagerik, that's one way, you could take it apart and spray the air all around in there (which will clean it better) but usually taking a laptop apart is a complicated and difficult processes.  There are a tonne of screws
[05:19] <edbian> and tiny cables you might tear
[05:19] <studentz> Hi there. I cannot connect Ubuntu to my wifi  tethering from my android device. Any help? Thanks
[05:19] <TrD> anyone know a good pdf editor please ?
[05:20] <studentz> TrD pdfeditor
[05:20] <Airious> Can I get some help... noob question ;)
[05:20] <TrD> didin't work for me studentz
[05:20] <edbian> Airious, what is it?
[05:20] <Airious> two questions or Aircrack...
[05:21] <edbian> Airious, what?
[05:21] <studentz> Trd Complex or simple tasks?
[05:21] <edbian> Airious, two questions 'or' aircrack?
[05:21] <ClientAlive> when it comes to the flat, ide cable - does it matter which of the two goes to the master or slave drive? For instance, does the plug at the far end have to go to the master drive - or does it even matter?
[05:21] <TrD> simple studentz
[05:21] <TrD> just edit text
[05:21] <studentz> Trd an example?
[05:21] <Airious> First, I am not able to get my dictionary file to be "found" when I am using aircrack... I am not sure how to point aircrack to the directory as it is on a windows partition
[05:21] <TrD> changing a text title or paragraph text studentz
[05:21] <studentz> Trd split join ..?
[05:21] <Airious> two questionsl both on Aircrack ;)
[05:23] <Airious> Second question I am not 100% sure my dictionary file is the correct format, or if more work needs to be done; it is a .tar.lzma file
[05:23] <Bahry> alien2050 urlin2u i just inserted that same usb on this pc using window 7, and i ran it with virtualbox, and it ran, and i pressed on install, and it got me to the language selction thingie
[05:23] <dagerik> edbian: I am afraid of breaking my fans if I use air spray.
[05:23] <w30> dagerik, I have been thinking about cleaning my tower compressed air bottles, cans don't last long. I am going to adapt a fish tank hose with a plastic cup to my vacuum cleaner. I will then have a hole in the side of the vacumm hose that I can cover with my finger when I want suction at the end of the fish tank hose.
[05:23] <edbian> dagerik, You won't
[05:24] <edbian> dagerik, They can spin when they're off
[05:24] <edbian> dagerik, I guess, make sure the machine is off
[05:24] <BinRoot> Hey, I have a really powerful computer (i7 2600K, 8GB RAM, with high end NVidia Graphics). If I run Ubuntu thought VM would any delay be noticable?
[05:24] <edbian> BinRoot, windows host?
[05:24] <BinRoot> yes
[05:25] <BinRoot> win 7, 64bit
[05:25] <edbian> BinRoot, probably not with 8Gb of ram
[05:25] <dagerik> edbian: I am not afraid of them spinning, but spinning too fast.
[05:25] <BinRoot> ebdian: thanks
[05:25] <edbian> dagerik, not an issue
[05:25] <edbian> BinRoot, Only one way to find out though!
[05:25] <BinRoot> you're right
[05:25] <Airious> Are u able to assist? (do i have a +v?)
[05:25] <urlin2u> Bahry, virtualbox uses its own drivers do you want to just install it in it?
[05:25] <dagerik> edbian: I do not see how it nor can be an issue.
[05:25] <BinRoot> I want to do Android development but I love my Ubuntu/linux enviroment but I don't want to install linux on my new computer yet
[05:26] <BinRoot> so I'll try a VM first
[05:26] <edbian> dagerik, You will not spin the fans too fast
[05:26] <edbian> not with canned air
[05:26] <w30> BinRoot, that machine won't run windows or Linux; Better drop it off at my place and get something else.
[05:26] <BinRoot> lol
[05:26] <edbian> bindi, sounds great
[05:26] <edbian> :P
[05:27] <w30> BinRoot, /me green with envy  *smile*
[05:27] <BinRoot> :P
[05:27] <BinRoot> it's for gaming (read: battlefield)
[05:27] <Bahry> urlin2u nah, am just wondering!
[05:27] <soreau> w30: sure it's not a toaster? ;)
[05:28] <urlin2u> Bahry, the virtualbox has its own graphic driver I believe.
[05:28] <BinRoot> vmware vs virtualbox for ubuntu on windows?
[05:28] <studentz> TrD no open source but give a try http://www.qoppa.com/pdfstudio/features.html
[05:29] <TrD> thank you studentz
[05:29] <urlin2u> Bahry, I assume of course that the original problem was a driver problem though.
[05:29] <Airious> Anyone able to help?
[05:29] <Airious> or direct me to the right place?
[05:30] <BinRoot> thanks for the help guys, c ya
[05:30] <w30> soreau, a 3.4 Gighz toaster? Some hot toaster!
[05:30] <studentz> TrD just check this review of pfdeditor in Linux World  http://www.virtualhelp.me/applications/51-office/102-pdf-editor-for-linux
[05:31] <TrD> i wana give a look studentz
[05:33] <studentz> Hi there cannot connect Ubuntu to my wifi tethering android?  Pls Help me
[05:35] <bjrohan> Is there anyone here familiar with mounting a Wii filesystem USB drive (WBFS)?
[05:36] <bjrohan> I can see the drive fdisk -l as /dev/sdb
[05:37] <bjrohan> but when I mount it I get: mount: you must specify the filesystem type
[05:37] <black> how do i switch back to gnome on 11.1?
[05:37] <rumpe1> bjrohan, what kind of filesystem? (try sudo parted -l)
[05:37] <bjrohan> rumpel it says filesystem msdos
[05:37] <rumpe1> black, 1. there is no 11.1, only 11.10 (10=october, 11=2011), 2. what are you currently using?
[05:38] <black> 11.10 "* sorry
[05:38] <black> i guess whatever is default.
[05:38] <black> epathy i think its called.
[05:38] <rumpe1> bjrohan, default is gnome3
[05:38] <black> gnome3 is for 10.04
[05:38] <rumpe1> black, you mean probably gnome2.
[05:38] <urlin2u> black, unity?
[05:39] <black> yes im using unity
[05:39] <black> i dont like it at all :/
[05:39] <black> i want gnome back :P
[05:39] <bjrohan> rumpel I think you meant that last tag to me for black :-)
[05:39] <rumpe1> bjrohan, right, sorry :)
[05:39] <bjrohan> rumpel I am trying to mount a Wii formated usb drive with WBFS :-)
[05:40] <bjrohan> :-)
[05:40] <bjrohan> rumpel the parted -l tells me that drive is filesystem msdos
[05:40] <black> i dont like the side bar at all, i miss the old fashion menu
[05:40] <black> i knew i should have stuck with 10.04 :P
[05:40] <studentz> Hi there Ubuntu cannot connect to my wifi tethering android? Any clue Thanks.
[05:41] <black> tether android is ad-hoc.
[05:41] <rumpe1> bjrohan, i'm googleing
[05:41] <black> not a legit wifi source.
[05:41] <black> are you using WPK or anything? try different channels.
[05:41] <bjrohan> studentz, I have android wifi and mine connects fine, it is adhoc as black says
[05:42] <black> ad-hoc is funny with being secured.
[05:42] <black> check your tether app for errors first.
[05:42] <black> try channel 11, 9, 3, 1
[05:43] <studentz> bjrohan I'm using bernacle I can see the SSID but I cannot connec
[05:43] <black> use a different one.
[05:44] <black> barnecal sucks on rooted droids.
[05:44] <studentz> Black I configure the IP4 manual and no succes
[05:44] <black> no set the ip4
[05:44] <black> leave it open security
[05:44] <bjrohan> unfortunately studentz, I am a noob as well, and do not know much about barnecal
[05:44] <studentz> black wich one do you you recommend
[05:44] <black> wireless tether .3.2.1.apk
[05:44] <black> its on code.google.com
[05:45] <black> it works great. even my ipod works on it
[05:45] <studentz> black I'll give a try
[05:45] <studentz> Black thanks
[05:45] <studentz> Black which room are you using?
[05:45] <ajwill> hi all, I was wondering, is it possible to install the gnome 3 package within ubuntu studio? or should I just install standard ubuntu and install the ubuntu studio package group?
[05:46] <black> i wanna go back to gnome, and this tut is showing something way different then what i have
[05:47] <dr_willis> ajwill:  either way should work
[05:47] <dagerik> I am now going to open the backside of my laptop and clean it with air pressure. Never done this before, anything I should know before I start?
[05:47] <black> dont use air
[05:47] <dr_willis>       dagerik  turn it off..
[05:47] <black> use a tooth brush and follow the fins :P
[05:47] <bjrohan> rumpel, perhaps I must bite the bullet and run the WBFS program via wine?
[05:47] <black> i took my heatsync off and soaked it in alc
[05:47] <dr_willis> use those canned air.
[05:48] <ajwill> okay, also, is there a gnome 3 package without the different themes and settings and such, just standard gnome 3 (like fedora)?
[05:48] <rumpe1> bjrohan, somehow I can't find anything useful. Maybe try wiithon package.
[05:49] <no-name-> hello. I need to find out what my ethernet card is (this is a PC, 2nd hand) using Ubuntu so I can get the drivers for Windows 7 :P ... anybody know how to do that?
[05:49] <no-name-> this is a new PC **
[05:49] <bjrohan> I shall. I have QWBFS and it will not mount the drive. My fear is that withon will not mount it either, but I shall go for it
[05:49] <dr_willis> no-name-:  lspci command
[05:49] <xosuitehearts> alright.
[05:49] <dr_willis> no-name-:  hwinfo command
[05:49] <ajwill> no-name-: sudo lspci | grep Ethernet controller
[05:49] <no-name-> thanks, dr_willis
[05:49] <dr_willis> !info hwinfo
[05:49] <no-name-> thanks
[05:50] <xosuitehearts> I am having an issue with my ubuntu natty 32 bit update manager - for some reason when upgrading it stops at the 50% mark on the dependencies, and doesn't go any further, even when using sudo apt-get upgrade -f
[05:50] <xosuitehearts> can someone help me?
[05:51] <black> so i guess all i have to do is type sudo apt-get install gnome-shell and itll allow me to select gnome or unity lol
[05:51] <black> twas a simple fix...
[05:51] <phalanx__> xo, never heard of it stopping at 50% before...
[05:51] <dr_willis> black thats the core of it.. yes
[05:52] <phalanx__> Im happy that we all like ellipses
[05:52] <rumpe1> black, the question is if gnome-shell is the "gnome" you want :)  (unity is gnome too)
[05:52] <black> and itll load the gnome desktop instead of the unity?
[05:52] <black> the classic version per say
[05:52] <black> i wonder if i have to reboot, or logout and back in?
[05:52] <rumpe1> black, gnome-shell is not 'classic', it's the new one.
[05:52] <dr_willis> selwct what you want at login screen
[05:52] <dr_willis> i dont do classic. :-)
[05:53] <phalanx__> I heart classic
[05:53] <rumpe1> black, it has a fallback-mode which looks somehow like the classic one, but not totally.
[05:53] <black> well ima try this, if it messes up, im putting 10.04 back on.
[05:53] <black> brb
[05:53] <sten2> #ubuntu-au
[05:53] <xosuitehearts> phalanx_ this is all that comes back: alex@griever:~$ sudo apt-get upgrade -f
[05:53] <xosuitehearts> [sudo] password for alex: Reading package lists... Done alex@griever:~$ ncy tree... 50%
[05:53] <dr_willis> fallback stuff is a stopgap thing. time to learn about gnomeshell
[05:53] <xosuitehearts> as you can see the word dependency cuts off and leaves me with 50%
[05:53] <ajwill> okay, also, is there a gnome 3 package without the different themes and settings and such, just standard gnome 3 (like fedora)?
[05:54] <black> k
[05:54] <black> yay
[05:54] <pangolin> xosuitehearts: try sudo apt-get -f install
[05:54] <black> all went well..
[05:54] <dr_willis> ajwill:  install gnome-shell
[05:54] <black> im much happier.
[05:54] <FloodBot1> black: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:54] <xosuitehearts> pangolin: what am I trying to install?
[05:54] <black> apt-get install gnome-shell is all you gotta do.
[05:54] <ajwill> dr_willis: thanks! :)
[05:54] <pangolin> xosuitehearts: nothing you are trying to -f (fix) any packages that were not properly installed
[05:55] <phalanx__> is that a valid command? though install always needed argument...
[05:55] <phalanx__> but I'm an apt noob
[05:55] <xosuitehearts> pangolin: alex@griever:~$ sudo apt-get -f install Reading package lists... Done alex@griever:~$ ncy tree... 50%
[05:55] <xosuitehearts> same thing
[05:55] <pangolin> xosuitehearts: interesting
[05:56] <phalanx__> ah, clearly it is
[05:56] <xosuitehearts> and I have that red circle with the horizontal white line through it up on my panel
[05:56] <CarlFK> xosuitehearts: this won't help you, but I am wondering why you are using ntfs if you don't have windows?
[05:56] <xosuitehearts> when ever i open update manager it just disappears
[05:57] <xosuitehearts> CarlFK: I had windows, switched to ubuntu, Im new to ubuntu
[05:57] <xosuitehearts> CarlFK: I used NTFS for my 1TB external
[05:57] <pangolin> CarlFK: the ntfs thing was a separate issue :)
[05:57] <ajwill> one last question, will the ubuntu studio dvd file be able to be used as a live usb? or should I just go the standard ubuntu route for that? I remember previously having problems with ubuntu studio installation via live usb...
[05:57] <CarlFK> xosuitehearts: oh right.
[05:57] <rumpe1> xosuitehearts, maybe try "dpkg --configure -a"
[05:58] <CarlFK> pangolin: thanks - its 1 till midnight, which is long past time to go to bed.
[05:58] <CarlFK> me waves
[05:58] <pangolin> CarlFK: same here.
[05:58] <pangolin> night
[05:59] <xosuitehearts> rumpe1 pangolin CarlFK: alex@griever:~$ dpkg --configure -a
[05:59] <xosuitehearts> dpkg: error: requested operation requires superuser privilege
[05:59] <xosuitehearts> alex@griever:~$ sudo dpkg --configure -a
[05:59] <xosuitehearts> alex@griever:~$
[05:59] <xosuitehearts> doesnt do anything
[05:59] <pangolin> well, that is actually good.
[05:59] <rumpe1> xosuitehearts, you have to read and follow
[05:59] <rumpe1> xosuitehearts, ah, ok
[05:59] <rumpe1> xosuitehearts, looks good. Try the apt-get thing again
[06:00] <xosuitehearts> alright
[06:00] <rumpe1> xosuitehearts, if a command doesn't return a success message, you can usually assume that it was successful.
[06:00] <xosuitehearts> rumpe1: alex@griever:~$ sudo apt-get -f install
[06:00] <xosuitehearts> Reading package lists... Done
[06:00] <xosuitehearts> alex@griever:~$ ncy tree... 50%
[06:01] <xosuitehearts> same thing
[06:01] <xosuitehearts> rumpe1: would you want to vnc and maybe try a few things that way?
[06:01] <rumpe1> xosuitehearts, then try sudo apt-get clean (backup your cached packages before that if you need to)
[06:01] <pangolin> xosuitehearts: ok sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[06:02] <xosuitehearts> rumpe1: alex@griever:~$ sudo apt-get -f install
[06:02] <xosuitehearts> Reading package lists... Done
[06:02] <xosuitehearts> alex@griever:~$ ncy tree... 50%
[06:02] <xosuitehearts> whoops
[06:02] <xosuitehearts> wrong paste
[06:02] <xosuitehearts> rumpe1: alex@griever:~$ sudo apt-get clean
[06:02] <xosuitehearts> alex@griever:~$
[06:02] <pangolin> hmm I am wondering if this is just weird timing of what is being displayed
[06:02] <xosuitehearts> pangolin: alex@griever:~$ sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[06:02] <xosuitehearts> Reading package lists... Done
[06:02] <xosuitehearts> alex@griever:~$ ncy tree... 50%
[06:03] <xosuitehearts> same thing
[06:03] <pangolin> xosuitehearts: got me.
[06:04] <xosuitehearts> pangolin: do you think I need to do a wipe and reinstall?
[06:04] <pangolin> nope
[06:04] <ajwill> one last question, will the ubuntu studio dvd file be able to be used as a live usb? or should I just go the standard ubuntu route for that? I remember previously having problems with ubuntu studio installation via live usb...
[06:05] <xosuitehearts> pangolin: what?
[06:05] <xosuitehearts> pangolin: so this isn't something I need to re-install my whole distro over?
[06:06] <pangolin> xosuitehearts: this is going to sound silly but try a reboot and then try to do the update from terminal. Don't go through the GUI.
[06:06] <pangolin> xosuitehearts: not until you break your head for a few more hours at least :)
[06:06] <xosuitehearts> pangolin: ive tried to reboot many times but it still stays
[06:06] <xosuitehearts> pangolin: but given the commands you gave me and did, should I just reboot again?
[06:07] <rumpe1> xosuitehearts, check your logs in /var/log(/apt/). or try "sudo dpkg --configure --pending"
[06:07] <pangolin> can't hurt
[06:07] <xosuitehearts> rumpe1: okay, do you want me to pastebin them?
[06:08] <rumpe1> xosuitehearts, no. First have a look at them yourself and try to extract relevant data. Then pastebin that.
[06:08] <chiyan> how to install vlc player any one help me
[06:08] <rumpe1> xosuitehearts, interesting are the logs syslog and maybe some in /var/log/apt (or similar)
[06:08] <rumpe1> chiyan, sudo apt-get install vlc
[06:08] <somsip> chiyan: sudo apt-get install vlc
[06:08] <somsip> snap!
[06:08] <rumpe1> :D
[06:09] <xosuitehearts> rumpe1: the only thing in var/log/apt is history.log and term.log
[06:10] <xosuitehearts> pangolin: ill try reboot after I look at the logs
[06:10] <pangolin> xosuitehearts: good idea.
[06:10] <firerat> hey everyone: any issues dual booting win7/ubuntu using an SSD?
[06:10] <rumpe1> xosuitehearts, hmm... or try a more verbose output for the freezing apt-get command. Check "man apt-get".
[06:10] <xosuitehearts> rumpe1: in /var/log/ I see 2 syslog files. one is syslog and the other is syslog.1
[06:11] <rumpe1> xosuitehearts, syslog.1 is the old one from last boot/session
[06:11] <xosuitehearts> rumpe1: ok, so then just try the apt-get command?
[06:11] <firerat> i'm new to the whole Solid State Drives and im just wondering if there are any problems dual booting with one.. ? :-)
[06:11] <tbruff13> does anyone need help
[06:12] <tbruff13> if you do just do tbruff13 and i will help]
[06:12] <rumpe1> xosuitehearts, try a reboot :>
[06:12] <xosuitehearts> rumpe1: alright I did apt-get and the verbose command is -v
[06:12] <rumpe1> xosuitehearts, a, great. Try that.
[06:13] <xosuitehearts> rumpe1: so what do you want me to do with -v?
[06:13] <xosuitehearts> how would I use it?
[06:13] <rumpe1> xosuitehearts, add it to the command line that freezes. Maybe it can tell you more about, when and why it's freezing.
[06:13] <xosuitehearts> rumpe1: so sudo apt-get upgrade -v?
[06:14] <rumpe1> xosuitehearts, right
[06:14] <bjrohan> How do I make myself a member of a disk group?
[06:14] <firerat> so does anyone know about SSDs and dual booting?
[06:14] <xosuitehearts> rumpe1: this is all i got: apt 0.8.13.2ubuntu4.3 for i386 compiled on Nov 22 2011 20:48:27
[06:14] <xosuitehearts> Supported modules:
[06:14] <xosuitehearts> *Ver: Standard .deb
[06:14] <xosuitehearts> *Pkg:  Debian dpkg interface (Priority 30)
[06:14] <xosuitehearts>  S.L: 'deb' Standard Debian binary tree
[06:14] <xosuitehearts>  S.L: 'deb-src' Standard Debian source tree
[06:14] <rumpe1> bjrohan, sudo adduser $USER disk
[06:14] <FloodBot1> xosuitehearts: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:14] <xosuitehearts>  Idx: Debian Source Index
[06:15] <xosuitehearts> sorry FloodBot1
[06:15] <xosuitehearts> alright rumpe1 did you see what I posted?
[06:16] <rumpe1> xosuitehearts, the beginning of it at least. And it doesn't look relevant.
[06:16] <xosuitehearts> rumpe1: yeah i didnt think so either
[06:16] <xosuitehearts> rumpe1: what to do next?
[06:18] <firerat> can anyone read this?
[06:18] <rumpe1> xosuitehearts, problems in the filesystem could also be a cause ... the thing is that it's only speculation as long as there is no warning/error message in some kind of log.
[06:18] <somsip> firerat: yes
[06:18] <firerat> ok thanks :)
[06:18] <xosuitehearts> rumpe1: so what should I do?
[06:19] <pp7>   how do u disable the exit warning in gnome-terminal?
[06:19] <black> where are default themes stored?
[06:19] <pp7> black: /usr/share/themes
[06:20] <firerat> somsip: do you know about Solid State Drives?
[06:20] <rumpe1> xosuitehearts, check filesystem integrity, smart-status of harddrive, logs(as i said), ... hm... is it a fresh install? Is reinstalling an option that could be easier?
[06:20] <somsip> firerat: no
[06:20] <xosuitehearts> rumpe1: I installed it a long time ago about 3 months ago
[06:20] <xosuitehearts> rumpe1: how do I reinstall?
[06:20] <rumpe1> xosuitehearts, same way you installed it :)
[06:21] <xosuitehearts> rumpe1: so should I wipe it or reinstall?
[06:21] <rumpe1> xosuitehearts, backup your stuff, boot from install media.
[06:22] <rumpe1> xosuitehearts, i'd recommend formating the root partition using the setupCD/ISO/flashdrive
[06:22] <rumpe1> xosuitehearts, make a clean fresh install.
[06:22] <black> much better
[06:22] <black> :P
[06:22] <xosuitehearts> rumpe1: so when it asks to do a clean install - format it all
[06:22] <black> thanks
[06:22] <xosuitehearts> rumpe1: also, should I be using 11.10?
[06:23] <rumpe1> xosuitehearts, yes. Maybe not a separate home partition, if you have one.
[06:23] <black> is there a theme app that i can browse instead of gnome-look?
[06:23] <rumpe1> xosuitehearts, if you like .. 11.04 isn't bad either and maybe better. You have to decide.
[06:24] <xosuitehearts> rumpe1: whats the difference between LTS and the regular?
[06:25] <rumpe1> xosuitehearts, LTS has much longer support (3 years? ), you have to upgrade from a non-LTS much earlier (after 1-2 years (?)). One moment, I look for a sheet.
[06:25] <xosuitehearts> rumpe1: what do you mean support?
[06:25] <rumpe1> xosuitehearts, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/
[06:26] <rumpe1> xosuitehearts, bufixes, security patches, download from repositories
[06:26] <xosuitehearts> rumpe1: so pretty much is better?
[06:27] <xosuitehearts> rumpe1: can I do a fresh install with it?
[06:27] <rumpe1> xosuitehearts, lts is better if you don't want to upgrade often and if older software versions are good enough for your needs.
[06:27] <urlin2u> pp7, gconf-editor is deprecated and not installed in natty or oneiric I believe but here is a link.  how do u disable the exit warning in gnome-terminal
[06:28] <urlin2u> pp7, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1143627
[06:28] <pp7> urlin2u: i dont see a link
[06:28] <pp7> k thx
[06:28] <xosuitehearts> rumpe1: alright, thank you for everything. Ill be back at some point once everything is backed up. thanks Pangolin
[06:28] <urlin2u> pp7, sorry used your question to find it still on the paste.
[06:29] <pp7> urlin2u: did u get this to work?
[06:29] <urlin2u> pp7, yeah just tested it.
[06:29] <pp7> on 11.10?
[06:29] <Guest23845> wwwwyyyyyyyyyyyydddddddddddddd
[06:29] <urlin2u> pp7, I'm in natty I have gconf installed
[06:29] <Guest23845> ???????????
[06:30] <pp7> urlin2u: ah, in 11.10 there is no gconf
[06:30] <Guest23845> yyyyyy
[06:30] <Guest23845> what
[06:31] <pp7> urlin2u: thx, i installed gconf-editor and the solution worked :)
[06:31] <urlin2u> pp7, it is considered deprecated dconf-editor is I couldn't find a similar place there, not sure if it is, you have to install gconf-editor I have it in onerirc as well, personal preference.
[06:31] <urlin2u> pp7, cool
[06:33] <ekontsev1y> I remember there was a package which would install a simple text file with all dictionary passwords (words, names, etc) somewhere in the system. Can't find the package, does anyone remember its name?
[06:34] <albech> anyone else experience that gimp ruler actions are not working while bainshee is open.. I know this sounds weird, but if someone could try placing a few guide lines in gimp while bainshee is running to confirm that this problem is only on my installation, I would be really happy
[06:35] <chiyan_> how to customize ccsm
[06:35] <pp7> chiyan_: what?
[06:36] <pp7> chiyan_: ccsm is used to customize the desktop
[06:36] <pp7> chiyan_: u want to customize the customizer?? :P
[06:36] <chiyan_> yes
[06:37] <urlin2u> chiyan, whats your actual goal.
[06:37] <urlin2u> er what's*
[06:37] <chiyan_> how to customize desktop effect ubuntu 11.04
[06:38] <pp7> lol
[06:38] <urlin2u> chiyan, you want the cube?
[06:38] <pp7> chiyan_: u use ccsm to do that LOL
[06:38] <dr_willis> !ccsm
[06:38] <dr_willis> cube can break unity
[06:39] <mikere> cube's so much fun though - especially with wobbly windows!
[06:39] <dr_willis> both make my wife nausous
[06:40] <dr_willis> wobbly wife
[06:40] <chiyan_> how to set desktop cube effect ubuntu 11.04
[06:40] <pp7> LOL
[06:41] <chiyan_> how to set desktop cube effect ubuntu 11.04
[06:41] <JanDF> Hello
[06:41] <dr_willis> chiyan_:  webupd8 and omgubuntu blig sites have tweaking guides on unity
[06:42] <urlin2u> chiyan, I used this works for oneiric, one draw back is needing a compiz restart buttton you can loose the widow header at time, and setting up needs restarts read very carefully. http://reformedmusings.wordpress.com/2011/05/05/howto-get-the-compiz-desktop-cube-in-ubuntu-11-04-natty-and-unity/
[06:42] <mikere> chiyan: have you looked in compiz configuration settings manager (ccsm)?
[06:43] <mikere> man, this doesn't help that we have a chiyan and a chiyan_
[06:43] <JanDF> On Ubuntu 11.04 I was able to right-click on the new Unity Dash-Starter. With 11.10 right-click does not work anymore. Is there a way to enable the right-click again ??
[06:48] <dagerik> I am trying to open my laptop. All skrues are taken off, but it still will not open. There are two problems. 1. it is attached in the middle with glue or something I think. 2. I cannot get loose one of the corners, and there is no skrew. I have used a lot of force, and I am starting to wthink that maybe it is not supposed to be opened.
[06:48] <coolstar> !ot |dagerik
[07:05] <gslim> Âñåì ïðèâåò
[07:05] <dr_willis> english please
[07:05] <gslim> bleat'
[07:06] <Whater4> wadda up peeps!
[07:06] <Whater4> merry christmas yall!
[07:06] <dr_willis> Bah Humbug.
[07:06] <maum__> hello
[07:07] <maum__> how can I stop nouveau kernel driver?
[07:07] <dr_willis> you installed the  nvidia driver from the repos?
[07:07] <dr_willis> it should blacklist it
[07:08] <dr_willis> !blacklist
[07:08] <maum__> I cannot install vnidia driver I typed like this : sudo service lightdm stop
[07:09] <dr_willis> maum__:  normally one uses the 'addational drivers' tool to install the nvidia drivers.
[07:09] <dr_willis> or run 'jockey-gtk'
[07:10] <maum__> I had to stop current graphic device to install nvidia graphic driver so I did like this = sudo service lightdm stop
[07:10] <maum__> and run nvidia.run file
[07:11] <dr_willis> its best to not use the  .run installers.
[07:11] <dr_willis> unless you must have the latest drivers fir sime reason
[07:11] <maum__> dr_willis: how can I install nvidia driver?
[07:12] <dr_willis> i said how 4lines above.....
[07:12] <maum__> by the menu additional driver?
[07:12] <dr_willis> yes. or jockey-gtk
[07:12] <maum__> ok I will try that
[07:13] <bodoh> hallo list .. I need to add Chinese language .. how to do that?? ... [my base is kubuntu with ubuntu & fluxbox]
[07:13] <bodoh> command line please
[07:13] <mhsy> hello. after a "Font Renderer" update yesterday, I cannot use unity anymore. In addition, my gnome shell reverts to gnome 2 (fallback?). It happened before, but I forgot how I fixed it.
[07:13] <bodoh> I just cant seem to figure that out anymore in this jungle of new look
[07:14] <bodoh> can you?
[07:14] <theadmin> bodoh: In plain Ubuntu, there's an app called "Language Support" in the menus
[07:14] <bodoh> I dont see that
[07:14] <bodoh> it just doesnt exist in mine
[07:14] <theadmin> bodoh: Type it in the search
[07:14] <bodoh> ok ... how can I install that language support/
[07:15] <mikere> bodoh: System--> Administration --> language support
[07:15] <bodoh> I do NOT have it
[07:15] <bodoh> again .. how to install it?
[07:15] <dr_willis> i normally install a classic gnome type menu indicator applet. :'(  makes things easier to find
[07:15] <mikere> bodoh: /usr/bin/gnome-language-selector <-- is that there?
[07:16] <bodoh> no
[07:16] <bodoh> I need to install nm-applet too for fluxbox
[07:16] <dr_willis> !find gnome-language-selector
[07:17] <dr_willis> muxxed up nameing order B-)
[07:17] <bodoh> this gnome came from installing gnome-shell
[07:17] <bodoh> scim in kubuntu is even worse
[07:19] <mikere> bodoh: something like apt-get install "language -selector" might do it
[07:19] <bodoh> thanks mikere
[07:20] <bodoh> it works ;)
[07:20] <mikere> right on!
[07:20] <bodoh> how about nm-applet?
[07:21] <theadmin> bodoh: That comes from network-manager-gnome iirc. Awful thing though
[07:22] <bodoh> I've got the network-manager ... but not the applet
[07:22] <bodoh> maybe it's part of the old one
[07:22] <dr_willis> run nm-applet ?
[07:22] <theadmin> Who the hell needs network-manager anyway...
[07:22]  * theadmin is confused
[07:22] <bodoh> this machine is funny ... iwconfig .. which is the best, just cannot run
[07:23] <bodoh> it is so windowy now
[07:23] <bodoh> everything must be done with a GUI
[07:23] <bodoh> maybe there is a work around .. but the heck with it for now ;(
[07:23] <dr_willis> gui tools use iwconfig  and other cli tools i thought.
[07:25] <mikere> that's definitely the easiest way to program a gui - use existing tools that work great already
[07:26] <mikere> Man, 128kB/s download on this upgrade ><  I'm gonna be an old man before it's done
[07:26] <theadmin> dr_willis: Except NetworkManager which does networking via dbus.
[07:26] <mikere> All because 11.04 has newer nvidia driver that supports 550 Ti
[07:27] <theadmin> dr_willis: The reason it doesn't need root privieleges ;)
[07:27] <mikere> he *did* say "and other cli tools"
[07:27] <dr_willis> havent had to ness with networking in ages
[07:27] <theadmin> I used nmcli for a bit, gave me some genral idea of how NetworkManager works
[07:30] <Kartagis> what package do I need to play mp4 files? ugly?
[07:30] <dr_willis> black majick and blue smoke
[07:30] <Gentoo64> Kartagis, a video player
[07:31] <dr_willis> i tend to go over=bord and install ubuntu-restricted-extras       Kartagis
[07:31] <dr_willis> i thought mp4 was playable  out of the box..
[07:31] <dr_willis> guess it can depemd on the codec details.
[07:33] <mikere> with video most file extensions are really just containers for various forms of compression/encoding
[07:34] <Kartagis> dr_willis: thanks
[07:34] <Kartagis> Gentoo64: I have it
[07:35] <Kartagis> dr_willis: what does over=bord mean?
[07:35] <dr_willis> means im typing on my cellphone again
[07:36] <Kartagis> dr_willis: heh
[07:36] <dr_willis> :-)
[07:36] <dr_willis> auto correction causes too many issues on irc also i find
[07:38] <Kartagis> dr_willis: I installed ubuntu-restricted-extras, totem still can't play it
[07:38] <darth_tux71> hey i got a question about Ubuntu 10.04 the FN key is dead so my friend cannot trun on the wifi to be blunt WTF? its a HP lappy
[07:39] <Thor^^> darth_tux71: have a look at this: http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/lucid/man1/rfkill.1.html
[07:39] <darth_tux71> Core i3 4GB intel HD GPU
[07:39] <Thor^^> he can run sudo rfkill unblock all to turn on his wifi
[07:39] <darth_tux71> Thor^^, thanks
[07:39] <Thor^^> as a workaround obviously
[07:40] <darth_tux71> ok i need to turn it on heh its off and FN keys are totally dead
[07:40] <Thor^^> darth_tux71: I had a similar issue on a Fedora 15 machine, 16 solved the issue for me tho, so not quite sure what that is caused by
[07:41] <darth_tux71> i have never ran wifi on linux so this is new to me
[07:41] <Kartagis> coughcoughruncoughcough
[07:42] <darth_tux71> i only use wifi when I am not at home and this lappy is not Linux able due to optimus NV GPU crap
[07:45] <Thor^^> darth_tux71: Wifi usually works well on linux these days from my experience, I only ran into the issue with fn keys not working and wifi starting as disabled once, as I said, that was solved in F16 for me. on my usual pc, wifi have no problems on Ubuntu
[07:46] <darth_tux71> Thor^^, yeah I am totally like wow really here iirc the FN key is hardware not OS dependant
[07:47] <Thor^^> darth_tux71: actually, FN keys are handled mostly by the OS. this is also often why you need assisting software in windows for anything but dimming the screen and perhaps sound keys
[07:48] <darth_tux71> wow lame
[07:48] <darth_tux71> so really the wifi would have been off anyway after the linux install
[07:48] <Thor^^> but even then, it's still software handling the commands, but dimming and sound have been standardized
[07:49] <darth_tux71> well i killed the wifi with the FN key when i looked at the GPU because she was hardwired to my router and i didnt want Liunx being a tard lookin at all the wifis around me
[07:49] <Thor^^> darth_tux71: some Wifi chips tend to default to off when the on/off button is unavailable, the laptop with F15/16 had the same issue on windows with the support software installed
[07:50] <darth_tux71> Thor^^, hmmmm
[07:50] <Thor^^> darth_tux71: I presume it's related to "flight mode" behaviour to avoid aktivating the radio accidentally perhaps.
[07:51] <darth_tux71> no i live in a condo and there are 987654321 wifis here and i didnt want linux scanning them all we were hardwired so meh
[07:51] <darth_tux71> its ok as soon as she reinstalls since it was a fresh install we are gonna try the rfkill unbloxk
[07:51] <darth_tux71> FAIL unblock
[07:51] <john> how do i change to an irc not listed in xchat?
[07:52] <darth_tux71> um /join #channelname
[07:52] <Gentoo64> john, you have to add it to network list
[07:52] <darth_tux71> oh yeah if its a server my bad whoopsie daisey
[07:55] <darth_tux71> i am definanly pertrubed here
[07:57] <manofmilk> no you don''t
[07:57] <manofmilk> you can simply do
[07:57] <manofmilk>  /server blah.foo.bar
[07:58] <manofmilk> or /connect i think works too
[08:04] <the_oracle> hey, I downloaded a torrent of some stuff, but it came in image files.  It's supposed to be videos.  It won't let me burn to a DVD
[08:04] <the_oracle> why is that?
[08:06] <KatsumeBlisk> the_oracle: What filetype are these files?
[08:06] <the_oracle> ,cue and a bin file
[08:06] <the_oracle> .cue*
[08:06] <mikere> and the_oracle, what program are you trying to burn with - Brasero?
[08:07] <the_oracle> Nero
[08:07] <KatsumeBlisk> the_oracle: On Linux?
[08:07] <the_oracle> nope, this is my Windows box
[08:07] <mikere> off topic then
[08:07] <the_oracle> I'm home for Christmas, no linux here
[08:07] <kohvihoor> try something else
[08:07] <the_oracle> mikere, what am I supposed to do with a .cue file
[08:08] <kohvihoor> imgburn for instance
[08:08] <the_oracle> I did try another program
[08:08] <mikere> dunno, check google?
[08:08] <the_oracle> both say it's an invalid image file type
[08:08] <ikonia> the_oracle: this isn't an ubuntu issue
[08:08] <ikonia> the_oracle: try the ##windows channel
[08:08] <ikonia> (note two ##)
[08:09] <the_oracle> ok
[08:09] <mikere> the_oracle: hint - type how do I play .cue and .bin files into google
[08:09] <the_oracle> I already went to google
[08:09] <the_oracle> I'm reading now
[08:10] <the_oracle> the real problem is that I don't want to burn it
[08:10] <the_oracle> I want to watch it
[08:10] <the_oracle> here on the computer
[08:10] <ikonia> ok - enough now
[08:10] <ikonia> talk to the guys in ##windows please
[08:10] <themaster> hello!
[08:10] <the_oracle> ikonia, you're not an operator
[08:10] <aBound> I just want to say that Ubuntu is awesome. :)
[08:10] <ikonia> the_oracle: I am
[08:10] <the_oracle> so quit acting like one
[08:11] <ikonia> the_oracle: and it doesn't matter if I am or not - this is not an ubuntu issue so ##windows is the place to be
[08:11] <ikonia> (please)
[08:11] <the_oracle> I'm there! they're not answering
[08:11] <aBound> Question: How do I fix the official Firefox repository for Ubuntu?
[08:11] <the_oracle> they're talking, but one guy said he has no idea
[08:12] <jita> I have a custom application sublime text 2. I extracted the tarball and added symbolic link to /usr/local/bin/st. But ubuntu does not recognize it. Whenever i try to right click on file, and i wanted to open it wit sublime text, i cannot find the applciation there in the menu. How can i add it ?
[08:12] <KatsumeBlisk> the_oracle: That doesn't make this channel the right place to ask...
[08:12] <ikonia> then wait for an answer there, please the_oracle
[08:12] <KatsumeBlisk> aBound: What's wrong with it?
[08:12] <aBound> I accidentally edited for an older version of Ubuntu and now it's giving me an error when I try to update the system.
[08:13] <KatsumeBlisk> aBound: Try removing it via Software Center and adding ppa:mozillateam/firefox-stable
[08:13] <aBound> Saying: Failed to download repository information check your Internet connection.
[08:13] <aBound> I'll check that real quick.
[08:18] <Cale> hrm, no such option in my bios
[08:19] <aBound> Ahh, I don't wanna sound like an idiot but how exactly would I add ppa:mozillateam/firefox-stable in Software Center or to remove it at that.
[08:19] <aBound> I just got a Ubuntu machine like three days ago.
[08:20] <theadmin> aBound: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:mozillateam/firefox-stable && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[08:20] <KatsumeBlisk> aBound: With Software Center, Edit>Software Sources>Other Software
[08:21] <kaushal> Hi
[08:21] <KatsumeBlisk> aBound: Then remove the rogue Firefox one and use theadmin's command in the terminal
[08:21] <kaushal> is there a way to know how much time the logrotate process has run ? I mean start and end time ?
[08:22] <dr3mro> aBound, just open up a terminal and then type sudo add-apt-repository  ppa:mozillateam/firefox-stable && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[08:22] <Cale> oh, maybe I should try a live cd installer...
[08:22] <phlak_user> kaushal: you could time it by running it manually
[08:22] <mikere> kaushal: it's probably a cron job
[08:22] <dr3mro> KatsumeBlisk, theadmin  +1
[08:22] <KatsumeBlisk> dr3mro: I don't think that'll remove the old one though.
[08:22] <theadmin> dr3mro: ?
[08:23] <dr3mro> theadmin, agree to you post
[08:26] <ubuntu> Hello, I'm booting xubuntu 11.10 from USB after a hdd crash. I want to recover data from the drive. It doesn't mount by default, and the order has changed because /dev/sda1 is now USB posing as a cdrom. I want to mount that inactive drive manually from commandline. *But I don't know the letter*. How do I learn the corresponding letter ?
[08:27] <KatsumeBlisk> ubuntu: Unless you've got other drives, it should be /dev/sdb
[08:27] <KatsumeBlisk> ubuntu: It's sequential
[08:27] <ubuntu> KatsumeBlisk: Not necessarily, on my debian machine it sometimes mounts as /dev/sdf
[08:28] <KatsumeBlisk> ubuntu: However, I don't think the USB affects that because gparted still sees my HDD as /dev/sda
[08:28] <phlak_user> ubuntu: the sureshot way is to run sudo fdisk -l (this will enumerate all the disks)
[08:28] <KatsumeBlisk> ubuntu: Well, that's been my experience.
[08:28] <CorpX> im launching apps in ubuntu, but they keep getting "Termiated" after 5 secs of use
[08:28] <aBound> I couldn't find the edit button in the Software Center. I tried the commands  in the terminal but I'm guessing I still have to remove the rogue repository suited for Lucid.
[08:28] <CorpX> any idea what could be doing this
[08:28] <SpenserWilde> Hi all.
[08:28] <SpenserWilde> How do I fix a hashsum mismatch problem?
[08:28] <dr3mro> ubuntu, No the order is not changed .. but try sdbx instead of sdax
[08:28] <KatsumeBlisk> aBound: I assumed you were using Oneiric. Open Synaptic.
[08:28] <dagerik> I am going to install ubuntu. Which version should I go for? Latest LTS? Gonna use it for kernel hacking and programming.
[08:29] <phlak_user> CorpX: what apps? also start them from within a terminal; you might see some error messages
[08:29] <KatsumeBlisk> aBound: In one of the menus, there'll be an Other Software option or something like that.
[08:29] <ubuntu> phlak_user: Would "sudo fdisk -l" enumerate drives that are not mounted ? Because I've tried it and the only thing listed is my usb/cdrom.
[08:29] <dr3mro> SpenserWilde, More info please ? what file ?
[08:29] <ikonia> dagerik: then use what you want
[08:29] <CorpX> im launching it from termianl.  i see the error "Terminated" and thats it
[08:29] <CorpX> esp with firefox
[08:29] <aBound> I am using Oneiric. I added a repository on accident that was for Lucid.
[08:29] <phlak_user> ubuntu: yes,
[08:30] <KatsumeBlisk> aBound: On the pannel, you should see an edit menu when your mouse is over it.
[08:30] <KatsumeBlisk> aBound: When Software Center is open
[08:30] <ubuntu> Then I guess the hardware is badly b0rked.
[08:30] <phlak_user> ubuntu: that means that the PC/desktop is not detecting your drives- are you sure they are connected, working etc etc?
[08:30] <aBound> Software Center is open.
[08:30] <ubuntu> I haven't messed with any cables in a while.
[08:30] <aBound> On the top end I see: All Software, Installed and History with two dropdown arrows.
[08:31] <SpenserWilde> dr3mro, http://paste.pocoo.org/show/524855/
[08:31] <KatsumeBlisk> aBound: https://help.ubuntu.com/11.10/ubuntu-help/addremove-ppa.html
[08:32] <dr3mro> SpenserWilde, 'sudo apt-get clean ; sudo apt-get install -f ; sudo apt-get update
[08:33] <dr3mro> ubuntu, why not try to check the bios if it's detetcted
[08:33] <aBound> Checking...
[08:34] <ttl-> is it possible to setup a new machine that has the same ssh fingerprint as the old one, i'm migrating a sftp server from a old debian install to ubuntu server...
[08:34] <aBound> KatsumeBlisk: This is how my screen looks, http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/213/softwarecenter.png/
[08:35] <aBound> Can I go to System Settings and go to Software Sources? Blah!
[08:35] <KatsumeBlisk> aBound: Move your mouse to the panel or hit the Alt key
[08:35] <KatsumeBlisk> aBound: That's how you get the Menus
[08:35] <dr3mro> aBound, yes
[08:35] <ubuntu> dr3mro: Because I forgot to do so. Good idea !
[08:35] <SpenserWilde> dr3mro, Tried that. Didn't work. :-\
[08:35] <dr3mro> SpenserWilde, is there a new error?
[08:36] <ttl-> i would be a lot less hassle for other parties connecting to the server to have the same fingerprint on the new server
[08:36] <SpenserWilde> dr3mro, Nope. Same error.
[08:37] <coolstar> Anyone C/C++ devs here who want to help out on an Open Source Project to run Shockwave/Silverlight Content on Linux?
[08:37] <dr3mro> try :  sudo rm -rf /var/lib/apt/lists/partial/*
[08:37] <dr3mro> SpenserWilde,  try :  sudo rm -rf /var/lib/apt/lists/partial/*
[08:37] <auronandace> coolstar: you really shouldn't be advertising here
[08:38] <dr3mro> coolstar, yes here mostly are noob trying to get their machine works with ubuntu .. try #c or #c++
[08:38] <aBound> KatsumeBlisk: The previous commands you gave me for the Terminal say it's aimed at Lucid and Maverick only.
[08:38] <Squall5668> ttl- check in etc/ssh/ for the fingerprint files, maybe you could transfer those? not sure if that will work though
[08:39] <coolstar> #c
[08:39] <coolstar> oops
[08:39] <KatsumeBlisk> aBound: What commands? The "sudo apt-add..." ones?
[08:39] <SpenserWilde> dr3mro, Already tried that. Doesn't solve the problem.
[08:40] <KatsumeBlisk> aBound: That works in any Ubuntu version and that ppa is the official Firefox one and it has Firefox 9.0.1 for oneiric
[08:40] <dr3mro> SpenserWilde, can you give me pastebin link of what are you trying to do ?
[08:40] <aBound> Understandable.
[08:40] <SpenserWilde> dr3mro, Nothing much really. I'm just trying to add a new PPA.
[08:41] <KatsumeBlisk> aBound: I just remembered something. Why are you using a Firefox ppa? Canonical automatically updates Firefox now
[08:41] <lahwran> is there a way to determine what packages are installed on a system with only a text editor?
[08:41] <lahwran> ie, is there a file I can read
[08:41] <aBound> Bizarre, Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/mozillateam/firefox-stable/ubuntu/dists/oneiric/main/source/Sources  404  Not Found
[08:41] <aBound> Cause I screwed something up and it was working beforehand when I added some firefox repository.
[08:42] <aBound> You know how the newbies do it.
[08:42] <coolstar> if anyone wants to help out on an open source plugin to play shockwave/silverlight on linux, enter "/join #wineplugin" in chat
[08:43] <dr3mro> SpenserWilde, what is the PPA
[08:43] <dr3mro> ?
[08:44] <SpenserWilde> "sudo add-apt-repository ppa:paullo612/unityshell-rotated", but it's not the one causing the problem (as far as I can tell).
[08:44] <Squall5668> lahwran: could you tell us what you are trying to do? maybe we can offer an alternative. I don't thing they are stored anywhere. You could make a list with "dpkg --get-selections>outputfile"
[08:47] <mikey_> hai guize
[08:47] <mikey_> I'm running JoliOS, from what I understand it's based on ubuntu.  what are some of the differences?
[08:48] <nthree> do you use ganglia for monitoring ur server?
[08:48] <ttl-> Squall5668: Yes i was thinking about that too
[08:48] <ttl-> Squall5668: Thanks
[08:48] <Squall5668> ttl-: anytime, tell us if it works
[08:49] <ikonia> mikey_: the joliOS people are the ones who will answer that
[08:49] <mikey_> i really like jolios, but i must admit ubuntu likes it ram
[08:50] <lahwran> Squall5668: not stored anywhere?
[08:50] <mikey_> any way i can get rid of some bloat and free up ram/
[08:50] <lahwran> Squall5668: then how does it know in the first place?
[08:50] <ikonia> good luck using it, we don't support JoliOS here
[08:50] <ikonia> mikey_: if there is a package/tool you are not using in ubuntu, open the package manager and remove it
[08:50] <ttl-> Squall5668: i will :)
[08:52] <dgvr> We're looking at Linux-HA for our cluster maangement on Ubuntu ... any other suggestions guys?
[08:52] <Squall5668> lahwran: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/ch-apt-get.en.html#s-update
[08:52] <lahwran> Squall5668: I'm attempting to determine what packages were installed in a full backup of my system I found. backup was performed offline, only thing missing is /home, and I'm not sure if I want to delete it or not
[08:53] <lahwran> I don't want to extract more than a few files unless I find something interesting, and I don't want to modify it
[08:53] <dgvr> openQRM is the other alternative currently ...
[08:53] <dr3mro> SpenserWilde, try to change your update server http://img440.imageshack.us/img440/6280/serverfd.png
[08:56] <mikey_> Why do you niggers use Ubuntu/
[08:57] <sulit> hi
[08:57] <sulit> everyone
[08:58] <dgvr> hi
[08:59] <sulit> dgvr: where are you  from
[09:00] <sulit> dgvr: nice  to  meet  you
[09:01] <lahwran> !hi
[09:01] <lahwran> erm, when was that factoid removed
[09:01] <dagerik> I have 10.04 installed on my mini pc. I am suspecting I am not getting all the performance out of the hardware. The gui is sluggish.
[09:01] <dagerik> The graphic card is GMA500.
[09:02] <phlak_user> dagerik: you should try using a lighter UI than gnome (maybe xbuntu?)
[09:08] <gigglefight> hello, is it possible to put ubuntu on a treo 650 phone? or linux a treo 650... other than that, what else is there to do with old technology
[09:09] <gigglefight> looked all over google and tried distrowatch, there is a few youtube videos, however, can't really find the distro.
[09:09] <ikonia> gigglefight: what cpu is in the treo ?
[09:09] <gigglefight> i'm checking.
[09:11] <ttl-> Squall5668: I copied ssh_host_dsa_key  ssh_host_dsa_key.pub	ssh_host_rsa_key  ssh_host_rsa_key.pub from /etc/ssh to the new machine and it works perfectly
[09:11] <Squall5668> ttl-: great!
[09:11] <ttl-> Squall5668: the fingerprint is the same now :-)
[09:12] <Squall5668> ttl-: make sure to set the correct permissions again, for security, the private keys should be owned by root iirc
[09:12] <ttl-> Squall5668: i did :)
[09:14] <Peddy> how can I delete a wireless network association in gnome 3?
[09:16] <Peddy> !ubbotu
[09:18] <dagerik> I am unable to boot into ubuntu. All I get is a black screen.
[09:18] <dagerik> How can I get just a shell to fix the problem?
[09:19] <Humbedooh> Peddy, nm-connection-editor
[09:19] <Peddy> thanks Humbedooh, love, Peddy
[09:19] <Humbedooh> dagerik, mash your escape key at boot time till you get the grub menu? :>
[09:19] <Squall5668> dagerik: have you tried recovery mode?
[09:20] <ikonia> dagerik: why are you saying you can't boot into ubuntu at all, when 5 minutes ago you where saying you could but the graphics performance was poor
[09:20] <anand> hello any one here know how to setup a linux virtual server
[09:20] <ikonia> anand: you need to explain what you want to do, what ubuntu version and how you want to use it
[09:21] <faz> can anybody increase the resolution of ubuntu>>> 1240x1024 is not on the list?????????
[09:21] <dagerik> ikonia: I have different computers here
[09:22] <anand> ikonia: i am doing a college project in which i want to simulate the working of linux virtual server using kernel version 2.4 and ipvs with the help of virtual box
[09:22] <ikonia> dagerik: what video card is in this one ?
[09:22] <dagerik> ikonia: GMA500
[09:23] <ikonia> anand: there isn't a current ubuntu version running 2.4 - the 2.4 kernel is dead, you'll struggle to use that on modern hardware
[09:23] <ikonia> dagerik: thats exactly the same one as the one you said you had poor graphics performance with
[09:23] <ikonia> 09:01 < dagerik> I have 10.04 installed on my mini pc. I am suspecting I am not getting all  the performance out of the hardware. The gui is sluggish.
[09:23] <ikonia> 09:01 < dagerik> The graphic card is GMA500.
[09:23] <faz> can anybody increase the resolution of ubuntu>>> 1240x1024 is not on the list?????????
[09:23] <anand> akonia: is there ipvs version that is compatible with current ubuntu /
[09:24] <ikonia> anand: ipvsadm and ultramonkey are both modern IPVS solutions
[09:24] <dagerik> ikonia: It had installed a modified version of 10.04 to make it usable with gma500. I updated all software, and now it will not boot.
[09:25] <psicobra> Hi all i got some weird graphics issues dont know if any one can help
[09:25] <anand> akonia: yes i have hered about that .let explain u what i am trying to do
[09:25] <psicobra> i have a toshiba tecra m3 with a nvidia 6200/6600 Te grapgics card
[09:25] <ikonia> dagerik: ask the person who modified the distro
[09:26] <psicobra> i have installed the 3rd part drivers
[09:26] <psicobra> but when i run a game it is stupidly slow
[09:26] <psicobra> glxgears shows 1000 FPS
[09:27] <anand> akonia: a am going to install ubuntu serevr (load balancer) on my system then i am going to install real servers on virtual machines ...but problem is that i dnt how to start
[09:27] <faz> anybody here could help me increase more resolution than available ones
[09:27] <psicobra> i have tried reinstalling 3rd party drivers and trying all the ones in the list
[09:28] <psicobra> any one?
[09:29] <administrator> hello
[09:30] <Guest18617> hi
[09:32] <anand> hello any one here who can help me on setting up a linux virtual server
[09:32] <ikonia> anand: it's quite a complex process
[09:32] <Squall5668> anand: are you asking how to use virtualbox?
[09:32] <ikonia> anand: first you'll need to check if your hardware can support virtualization
[09:33] <anand> ikonia: they support virtualization
[09:33] <ikonia> anand: then research what virtualization software you want to use (if your hardware supports it)
[09:33] <neeteex> Hello, I installed a fresh new ubuntu 11.10 on a new partition, how can I navigate through my old files ?
[09:34] <anand> akonia: i want to use best open source virtualization software virtualbos and i am going to research it
[09:34] <ikonia> neeteex: you need to mount the disk your old files are on
[09:34] <ikonia> anand: you want to use virtualbox
[09:34] <neeteex> thanks ikonia, I'll try to find out how to do that
[09:35] <ikonia> anand: is that what you are saying ?
[09:35] <anand> akonia: i know no one going to do all this for me but i just need some expert help where i can ask when i really get stuck
[09:35] <anand> akonia: yes
[09:35] <ikonia> anand: then ask here if you get stuck, also use #vbox
[09:35] <Squall5668> anand: if you try you'll see its quite easy, next time try to do it before asking for help you might not need
[09:37] <anand> akonia and Squall : thanks
[09:38] <auronandace> !tab | anand
[09:39] <dagerik> On my brand new laptop I am using the radeon open source driver for my ati graphics card. unity is sluggish. And this is  a brand new laptop :(
[09:39] <anand> akonia: so all i nedd to do it just start doing it before that one more thing is it possible to do like running whole virtual serevr simulation on a single machine?
[09:39] <anand> ubottu: thanks this time i used <tab>
[09:40] <jutnux> dagerik: Try the proprietary driver then.
[09:40] <orastes> hello guys, How can I remove chinese option from language support center? There is no chinese lang pack installed but it effects my local language o_O untranslated sections shown in chinese (i think)
[09:40] <dagerik> jutnux: *FGLRX? it was even worse
[09:40] <ikonia> anand: if you have enough hardware, yes
[09:40] <anand> ikonia: thanks again
[09:41] <ikonia> not a problem, any questions here an #vbox are a good source
[09:42] <maum> how can I set hdmi sound on ubuntu 11.10?
[09:44] <Bahry> i made a usb live cd using unetbootlin, and am installing 11.10 on my laptop. I have been at it for a while, the user experience is one like playing with old bios. nonetheless, i got to a place where it asks me what will i use the pc for, so it would suggest applications, so i checked everything, and now it is downloading alot of data and apps. and i cant stop it and go back
[09:45] <Bahry> ikonia can u help with this plz?!
[09:45] <Bahry> if ur available?
[09:46] <ikonia> Bahry: why me ? what do you want help with, you've started a download process, let it finish, or kill the process/reboot
[09:46] <jutnux> Bahry: What installer are you using? Net installer? We can't really help as ^^ said.
[09:46] <Bahry> the thing is that am in the middle of the installation
[09:46] <Squall5668> ikonia: you are now the face of the ubuntu channel, have a nice day xD
[09:47] <Bahry> nop, not net installer, i already downloaded my iso
[09:47] <Bahry> ikonia, why u?! well, ur the one who answered the last question, and the ods of u being available are pretty high!
[09:47] <ikonia> Bahry: you sure it's downloading from the net and not the usb ?
[09:48] <gigglefight> i'm sorry. i'm having a bad time with this project. thanks for your help.
[09:48] <Bahry> well, yes, ikonia, am sure. 8 hours of download from usb?!?
[09:48] <ikonia> Bahry: possibly, yes
[09:48] <ikonia> Bahry: what applications is it downloading ?
[09:48] <Bahry> i calculated maybe some 4gb + based on my connection
[09:48] <ikonia> 4GTB !!!!
[09:48] <ikonia> GB
[09:48] <ikonia> that is not an ubuntu install
[09:48] <FloodBot1> ikonia: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:48] <jutnux> What are you installing?....
[09:49] <Bahry> 11.04
[09:49] <ikonia> Bahry: reboot - try again, pay attention to what's going on
[09:49] <Bahry> got it on usb
[09:49] <jutnux> 11.04 is not 4gb
[09:49] <Bahry> ran it
[09:49] <Bahry> played along
[09:49] <FloodBot1> Bahry: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:49] <ikonia> Bahry: that's not a stock ubuntu install
[09:49] <ikonia> Bahry: I would not use that again
[09:49] <jutnux> Where did you download it from Bahry?
[09:49] <Bahry> until it asked me what am i gonna use, in order to get me my apps. i cheked everything like xubuntu, kubuntu.... studio somethiing
[09:50] <Bahry> then it oppened aptitude
[09:50] <jutnux> THey aren't apps, they are desktop environments.
[09:50] <Bahry> i started download
[09:50] <Squall5668> that is definately not regular ubuntu
[09:50] <Squall5668> bahry: please download the iso from the ubuntu site
[09:50] <jutnux> I don't know what you are downloading, better off getting something from ubuntu.com rather than any where else.
[09:50] <Bahry> am telling you it wasnt user friendly! i dono!
[09:50] <wiggmpk> alright, I just got a notification saying that my root partition is nearly full. How can I clean my root partition up (clear cache, downloaded packages, any suggestions)?
[09:50] <Bahry> Squall5668 i did
[09:50] <jutnux> Bahry: Clearly not.
[09:50] <ikonia> Bahry: it wasn't user friendly ??? come on use your brain, you TICKED what you wanted to download, now it's doing it
[09:51] <Bahry> jutnux am telling u!
[09:51] <ikonia> Bahry: you clicked "xubuntu, kubuntu, studio" of course it's going to download them, you told it to
[09:51] <Bahry> i downloaded it myselg
[09:51] <Bahry> ok
[09:51] <Bahry> how do i go one step back plz?!
[09:51] <jutnux> Bahry: Kubuntu is about 600mb.
[09:51] <jutnux> Bahry: Restart the installer.
[09:51] <ikonia> Bahry: kill the install, try again and pay attention to what you are doing
[09:51] <Bahry> sh!t
[09:51] <pangolin> !language | Bahry
[09:51] <ikonia> Bahry: there is no need for bad langauge
[09:52] <Bahry> boger?
[09:52] <Bahry> shoot!
[09:52] <ph8> Hi all, i'm wondering if anyone has any wisdom to offer. I have a new build machine with a networking problem. The network worked fine with a windows install. I only have natty on it because i want to use NX and dodge the problems that oneiric causes with that. Kernel is 2.6.38-13. The box starts in half duplex and pings immaculately when it does that. When i force it to 100mbit/full duplex on a confirmed working 100mbit switch (other boxes are plugged in 
[09:52] <ph8> I've tried switching out the cable just in case
[09:52] <neeteex> ikonia, I created a new virtual disk, now how to get to the old ubuntu install ?
[09:52] <ph8> but don't have any other ideas? Any help/ideas appreciated
[09:52] <Bahry> kool! only the s word is a nono
[09:52] <Bahry> :)
[09:53] <jutnux> Bahry: Don't test out swear words...
[09:53] <ikonia> neeteex: what ???
[09:54] <markuss> hey guys
[09:54] <Guest18617> hi  friend
[09:54] <markuss> anyone know how to stop gnome creating dupliate menu entries
[09:55] <Bahry> jutnux, am not trying to. am just trying to find a word that expresses the sentiment without getting on any bot's nerves!
[09:55] <markuss> when i create an item in the menu its dupicates in a diffent menu ahhh
[09:55] <neeteex> ikonia, you said I'd have to use virtualbox to navigate through my old files on previous ubuntu install.  I installed virtualbox, created a virtual disk and... where do I go from here ?
[09:55] <markuss> anyone pleasze hellp with tings iM losing my feaking mind
[09:56] <jutnux> !ask | markuss
[09:56] <wiggmpk> markuss: use alacarte and see if its in a location "Other" and simply uncheck it
[09:56] <markuss> sorry
[09:56] <jutnux> Woops, he has asked.
[09:56] <Squall5668> neeteex: didn't ikonia say you just need to mount the other partition?
[09:57] <markuss> I know you can uncheck it but im adding a lot of menus it would take forever to do one at a time then search and uncheck
[09:57] <ikonia> neeteex: no I didn't
[09:57] <neeteex> Squall5668, I thinks that's what it was about : mouting the other partition. I'm not sure how to do it though...
[09:57] <ikonia> neeteex: I said you have to mount your old disk
[09:58] <neeteex> OK, should that be using the "virtualbox" software ?
[09:58] <Squall5668> no
[09:58] <ikonia> no '/??
[09:58] <ikonia> !mount | neeteex
[09:59] <maum> how can I set hdmi output config? the output device number is 1 but I couldn't find the device in profile sound option
[10:00] <Bhavesh_A_P> is there one who is using 11.x on Intel's i3 processor
[10:00] <Bhavesh_A_P> ?
[10:00] <ikonia> Bhavesh_A_P: just state your problem and ask the question
[10:00] <Bhavesh_A_P> k
[10:01] <Bhavesh_A_P> I can't get network, graphics, sound driver for Ubuntu 10.04 32 bit
[10:01] <Bhavesh_A_P> for Intel's i3 processor
[10:01] <ikonia> ??
[10:02] <dgvr> hi sulit
[10:02] <dgvr> sorry .. I didn't see your comments earlier ;)
[10:02] <ikonia> Bhavesh_A_P: do you mean they don't work ?
[10:02] <dgvr> I'm from Australia
[10:02] <Bhavesh_A_P> hm
[10:02] <Bhavesh_A_P> it's don't work
[10:02] <faz> any body make my ubuntu's screen resolution higher!!!!!!
[10:02] <ikonia> Bhavesh_A_P: ok - so you've installed ubuntu 10.04 32bit yes/no ?
[10:03] <Bhavesh_A_P> yes on Intel's i3 processor
[10:03] <maslen> Has anyone else ever experienced this bug? If I do a search in nautilus, and hit delete twice in rapid succession, it closes, without any warning.
[10:03] <Squall5668> faz: did you install the prop drivers?
[10:03] <ikonia> Bhavesh_A_P: ok - do you get a gui up when you start it ?
[10:03] <faz> yep
[10:03] <dagerik> ubuntu is not detecting my usb stick.
[10:03] <maslen> Bhavesh_A_P: You don't install OSes on processers...
[10:03] <faz> there were not any in the list
[10:05] <Bhavesh_A_P> When I installed 10.04 LTS with i3 processor CPU machine. so problem is 1) I can't get full screen 2) can't get sound 3) network drivers
[10:05] <ikonia> Bhavesh_A_P: ok - lets deal with one thing at a time
[10:05] <DarkStar1> hi. is there anywhere else the locale of the system can be changed? the output of /etc/default/locale is fr_FR but when my app creates documents on the system It uses the $ currency signh
[10:05] <ikonia> Bhavesh_A_P: when you boot ubuntu - you get a gui, yes/no ?
[10:07] <Bhavesh_A_P> yes gui but screen divided into two part
[10:07] <ikonia> the screen is devided into two parts ? that sounds very odd
[10:08] <DarkStar1> Anyone?
[10:08] <dr_willis> sounds like a driver or nmodeset issue
[10:09] <maum> can someone setup hdmi sound on ubuntu 11.10?
[10:09] <rockband> can someone help me with bind9 being unreachable
[10:09] <ikonia> possibly yes
[10:09] <ikonia> rockband: is bind9 running ?
[10:09] <ikonia> never seen the screen split though
[10:09] <rockband> yes
[10:09] <ikonia> can you telnet to localhost 53 on the bind server ?
[10:10] <dr_willis> seen very weird messed up displays over the years. :-)
[10:10] <Squall5668> ikonia: medical grade 4mp screens, sometimes they get nasty and show everything twice and in black and white, its quite fun ;)
[10:10] <rockband> Connected to localhost.
[10:10] <rockband> on 53
[10:10] <ikonia> rockband: ok, so you know it's actually listening
[10:10] <ikonia> rockband: now telnet $IP_YOU_WANT_TO_CONNECT_TO 53 on the localhost
[10:10] <ikonia> rockband: eg: telnet 192.168.24.10 53 (while on the localhost)
[10:11] <dagerik> Unable to mount usb because it is busy, but it is not busy!
[10:11] <ikonia> dagerik: for someone who's a kernel hacker, you're struggling with a lot of basic issues
[10:12] <dr_willis> try mounting by hand dagerik ?
[10:12] <dagerik> ikonia: I am going to be a kernel hacker. Still getting the basics down. :)
[10:12] <rockband> it doesnt connect this way until times out
[10:12] <ikonia> .....right.....
[10:12] <dagerik> dr_willis: I am doing it manually, says the device is in use.
[10:13] <ikonia> rockband: ok - so thats on the localhost, so there is no firewall/routing issues, so then it's not listening on that IP address is the most logical conclusion
[10:14] <rockband> ok, i can paste you the conf if you want to look at them
[10:14] <ikonia> no thanks
[10:14] <ikonia> rockband: just check if it's configured to listen on that IP address
[10:16] <rockband> you are right. got alook again
[10:16] <Pepp-elito> Hi, I'm having real problems with my ubuntu 11.04 installation. I have read different solutions on the webb, but nothing seems to work. The problem I'm having is that I experience tearing while watching flash-hd movies. I have tried different several things compiz/config etc (I'm now using unity 2d, to solve the same problem for xbmc). Anyone that can help me to solve the tearing problem once and for all? (Using A zotax nd-22, wit
[10:17] <txomon|nqas> Pepp-elito, upgrade to 11.10
[10:17] <DarkStar1> Can I get help with setting my system locale pls?
[10:17] <DarkStar1> WOuld greatly appreciate it
[10:20] <dr_willis> Pepp-elito: with flash nothing is ever fixed "once and for all" .. but xbmc us having the same issue? it may be driver related not flash rwlated
[10:21] <meco> Where are torrents usually stored? I.e. not the downloaded files...
[10:21] <txomon|nqas> meco, check config
[10:21] <meco> ok
[10:21] <dr_willis> meco: check the clients settings
[10:23]  * DarkStar1 shouts for help
[10:23] <meco> I found it in .config but I couldn't find it in the client's settings
[10:23] <Pepp-elito> dr_willis, I solved the xbmc problem by using unity 2d, but for flash movies in browser the problem remain. I have read alot about this and it seems to be a glitch between unity/compiz open gl and nvidia/opengl/hardwareacc.!?
[10:24] <DarkStar1> I really need help with setting my server's system locale
[10:25] <almoxarife> Pepp-elito: compositing and xvidia don't mix
[10:25] <Pepp-elito> dr_willis, so basically I'm willing to skip ubuntu/unity 3d-support, to have proper playback, but for some reason even unity 2d seems to interfear with hardware accelerated playback..
[10:26] <dr_willis> Pepp-elito: what site has the flash videos
[10:27] <almoxarife> dr_willis: youtube
[10:27] <Pepp-elito> dr_willis, e.g. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XSGBVzeBUbk
[10:28] <dr_willis> Pepp-elito:  xbmc and boxee have youtube plugins. is that how you are watching them?
[10:29] <Pepp-elito> dr_willis, no using the browser...
[10:29] <p_nuts> I feel like an idiot for resorting to IRC over this, but have tried googling to no avail. I'm having issues with a PS/2 mouse not working on a default install of Oneiric...
[10:29] <dr_willis> tey the xbmc plugin perhaps. or  download the flash video and cinvert perhaps.
[10:30] <dr_willis> ut could ce a cpu ir other bottleneck
[10:30] <Pepp-elito> dr,willis, chrome/firefox...
[10:30] <p_nuts> say I've attempted to build an xorg.conf with "Xorg -configure", and that fails. I've tried dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, but it doesn't detect my mouse.
[10:31] <dr_willis> grr.. silly andchat irc client still has keybord issues for me..
[10:31] <p_nuts> say It's a Logitech 3-button PS/2 mouse, no wheel, if it matters.
[10:31] <almoxarife> dr_willis: that link won't run on xbmc, regardless of plugin, it's the lastest holy grail sort of
[10:32] <dr_willis> almoxarife:  interesting. wonder if it would work on my boxee box
[10:32] <dr_willis> wonder if that lik has a html5 alternative.
[10:32] <almoxarife> dr_willis: didn't try it on boxee, it would be interesting if it did
[10:32] <newellj79_>  /join #nookcolor
[10:34] <almoxarife> dr_willis: what is more interesting is the link won't run on totem/mplayer/gxine/etc either
[10:35] <Ruedii> I'm having an issue with KMS switching to the wrong video output during boot.  Does anyone know where I can look up the kernel boot options?
[10:35] <dr_willis> almoxarife:  sent it to my boxee box que. ;) usint tubemate on my phone to download it as we speak
[10:35] <dr_willis> almoxarife:  i will have to test it out more when i get home
[10:36] <almoxarife> dr_willis: does tubemate also make subspace calls to veger?
[10:37] <dr_willis> hmm.. boxeebox que manager dident like the url. ;)  youtube doing weird stuff again?
[10:37] <Pepp-elito> dr_willis, almoxarife, I have tried it on xbmc using the plugin. It plays fine no tearing. however the problem for browser playback remain..
[10:38] <zaxonspox> hello, can someone help me determine language of a script file?
[10:38] <almoxarife> Pepp-elito: you played the link above on xbmc with what plugin?
[10:39] <almoxarife> Pepp-elito: better yet, lets take the conversation to #xbmc, it's a bit off subject here
[10:39] <zaxonspox> http://www.smart-it-consulting.com/docframe.htm?url=http://www.smart-it-consulting.com/progress/4gl-code/dump-progress-database/dumpDB.p&title=dumpDB.p
[10:39] <Pepp-elito> almoxarife, the youtube one.
[10:40] <almoxarife> Pepp-elito: better yet, lets take the conversation to #xbmc, it's a bit off subject here
[10:40] <Pepp-elito> almoxarife, okay
[10:40] <akinari> hello..
[10:40] <Pepp-elito> almoxarife, lets see me irc-skills or lack of such will make this take a minute or two..
[10:41] <almoxarife> Pepp-elito:           /join #xbmc
[10:41] <dagerik> I am having trouble creating a ubuntu usb installer. After the tool is done and I try to boot into the usb, the pc keeps restarting.
[10:41] <dagerik> I have done this successfully many times before.
[10:42] <dr_willis> dagerik:  making it with what tools
[10:43] <Pepp-elito> almoxarife, thanks, now I'm on xbmc
[10:43] <dagerik> dr_willis: usb startup disk creator
[10:44] <dr_willis> dagerik:  what versions?  there are alternative tools at pendriveliux site also.
[10:44] <dagerik> 11.10
[10:44] <dr_willis> test it on other machines yet?
[10:44] <dagerik> yep
[10:44] <dr_willis> so it fails on all?
[10:44] <dagerik> I can see the files are there with a file explorer
[10:44] <dagerik> but it will not boot into the usb drive
[10:45] <robinduckett> dagerik: is the volume marked as bootable?
[10:45] <dr_willis> dagerik:  for 11.10+ you can 'dd' the iso file straight to the flash with no need for the usb creator tool
[10:47] <dagerik> robinduckett: I has a start under boot, in fdisk -l, that means it is bootable?
[10:47] <robinduckett> dagerik: unless it says "bootable" i don't think so
[10:48] <dr_willis> a * next to a prtion = bootable flag. i think
[10:50] <Gentoo64> you dont need bootable flag to boot
[10:50] <dr_willis> i dident think so either Gentoo64
[10:50] <dr_willis> not for linux as least. ;)
[10:51] <Bahry>  Irc ppl! I am in the middle of my ubuntu 11.10 installation. I reached a software selection page with basic ubuntu server, open ssh, dns, samba, print, tomcat, cloud, cirtualmachinehost, 2/3/d sw/ audio sw... lubuntu, mythubuntu...... long list... kubuntumobile....  what is this?!? I dont know what to choose! what if i should download things i dont knoiw?!
[10:52] <Gentoo64> Bahry: what install is that?
[10:52] <Gentoo64> not the normal one...
[10:52] <dr_willis> Bahry:  what installer are you using
[10:52] <Bahry> Gentoo64 again?!?
[10:52] <Gentoo64> is it some minimal one?
[10:52] <Bahry> i dwonaloded the 10.11 from ubuntu.com
[10:52] <Bahry> i promise!
[10:52] <Bahry> server edition!
[10:52] <Gentoo64> oh ok
[10:53] <dr_willis> Bahry:  whats the isos filename  and why are you using a server install?
[10:54] <Bahry> i dont know! dr_willis i just installed the thing, and i understand that now one file 700mbs of size is downloaded and then you choose what you want.
[10:54] <Bahry> tight?
[10:54] <Gentoo64> Bahry: is this for a desktop?
[10:54] <geirha> Bahry: Pick the things you know you need, the rest you can install at a later time anyway.
[10:55] <maum> how can I change the device from grep eld_valid /proc/asound/NVidia/eld*
[10:55] <dr_willis> Bahry:  there should be a ubuntu-desktop.11.10.iso  or somthing like that.  the desktop in the name shows its a normal desktop installer
[10:56] <Bahry> dr_willis ubuntu-11.10-server-i386 is the name
[10:56] <mansoor> Anyone know how I can enable webgl on firefox or chromium?
[10:56] <dr_willis> Bahry:  so you picked a server.. and want a full normal desktop?
[10:56] <Gentoo64> mansoor: in chromium type about:flags
[10:56] <Gentoo64> enable werbgl there
[10:57] <grypho_> hi guys
[10:57] <Bahry> dr_willis indeed!
[10:57] <Gentoo64> Bahry: download the desktop iso
[10:57] <Gentoo64> then you can just do a plain install
[10:57] <maum> can someone help me?
[10:57] <dr_willis> Bahry:  if your hardware is 64bit.. get the amd64 one also
[10:57] <Gentoo64> ubuntu server will probably be slower for a desktop
[10:58] <mansoor> Gentoo64: what option? i dont' see anything pertaining to webgl
[10:58] <Gentoo64> mansoor: what chromium version?
[10:58] <Bahry> Gentoo64 dr_willis, am usually smarter than this!  thanx guys, i dont believe that i did such a mistake! this is my second today!
[10:58] <Gentoo64> Bahry: dont worry :)
[10:59] <grypho_> i'm experiencing problems with my wifi adapter after upgrading to 11.10. Card is BCM4306rev3 and neither firmware-b43-installer nor firmware-b43legacy-installer works. anyone got an idea?
[10:59] <mansoor> Gentoo64: 15
[10:59] <Gentoo64> mansoor: maybe its not in that version idk
[10:59] <Pepp-elito> Some one that knows if browser playback of flash hd movies will be teringing free on ubuntu 11.10? (Using nvidia ion)
[11:00] <Gentoo64> Pepp-elito: tearing?
[11:00] <dagerik> Trying to make a usb startup disk. Do you see anything wrong here? http://folk.ntnu.no/dageriv/s.png
[11:01] <Gentoo64> Pepp-elito: flash will use vdpau if your card supports it, i dont notice tearing in flash
[11:01] <Ruedii> Does anyone know how  to force my video connector to VGA on KMS?
[11:01] <Ruedii> Does anyone know how  to force my video connector to VGA on boot?
[11:01] <Pepp-elito> Gentoo64, using ubuntu 11.04 (even using unity 2d) I have tearing (lines/breaking the screen) when playing movies in the browser
[11:02] <Ruedii> Pepp, what is your video driver?
[11:02] <Gentoo64> Pepp-elito: not sure then. playing with vsync never seems to help, are you on nvidia or nouveau?
[11:02] <grypho_> ok, got it... thanks ;-)
[11:03] <Gentoo64> mansoor: apparently webgl is enabled in stable chromium and from firefox 4 onwards
[11:03] <Ruedii> Pepp-elito What type of videos?  Flash or embedded?
[11:03] <mansoor> Gentoo64: right.. i'm thinking its a driver issue
[11:04] <IngoPaN> Braucht noch wer was auf den letzten Drücker?
[11:04] <Gentoo64> mansoor: maybe. i dont know much about it tbh. i think on chromium you have to manually enable it in the about:flags, in firefox apparently its enabled but you could check about config
[11:04] <IngoPaN> http://amzn.to/AmznCyberMonday     Amazon Gutschein 10 Eur : AMZNXMAS2011
[11:04] <RobNuts> hmm
[11:04] <Gentoo64> mansoor: webgl.force-enabled is the firefox about:config entry
[11:04] <Ruedii> mansoor are you running an ATI card.  The Chromium team decided to blacklist all ATI cards because a few caused crashes.  You can try overriding it in chrome:flags
[11:05] <mansoor> Ruedii: na, i'm on nvidia
[11:05] <Ruedii> Mansoor and likewise what Gentoo64 said for Firefox.
[11:05] <Ruedii> Mansoor:  You could check if it's enabled in chrome:graphics on chrome.  I'm not sure where to check in Firefox.  Gentoo64 might know.
[11:06] <Gentoo64> about:support maybe
[11:06] <Gentoo64> not sure
[11:06] <mansoor> I force started webgl on firefox
[11:06] <Pepp-elito> Ruedii, more or less all inbrowser movies (not only full hd), but e.g. this one http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XSGBVzeBUbk
[11:06] <RobNuts> do i need to reboot after doing the 240 somethin updates after install? it didn't tell me to
[11:06] <mansoor> but it srediculasly slow
[11:06] <Gentoo64> mansoor: maybe chromium 15 dont support it, i think 16 is the stable one
[11:06] <Gentoo64> mansoor: probably a driver thing then
[11:07] <Ruedii> Pepp-elito most run on flash player.  Try toggling video acceleration in the flash player settings.  It may be an issue there.
[11:08] <mansoor> haha i hadn't enabled my restricted drivers
[11:08] <RobNuts> nvm
[11:08] <Pepp-elito> Ruedii, search the webb for tearing ubuntu 11.04, makes me belive that it's a common problem. But none of the "solutions" seems to work (changeing to unity 2d, solved the same problem for playback in xbmc, but browser playback is still a problem)
[11:09] <Ruedii> Pepp-Elito try in your flash player settings that might help.
[11:09] <Pepp-elito> Ruedii, I have tried this, doesn't help.. tried different browsers etc...
[11:09] <Pepp-elito> different drivers...
[11:10] <Ratul> How can we let wvdial ignore username password (as service provider does not give any) when connecting to ZTE modem?
[11:10] <Ruedii> Pepp-Elito: Have you tried using the Google version of Chrome.  They use a different flash player plugin.  It tends to run video better.
[11:11] <Ratul> anyone, pleeease! My ubuntu is dead without internet connection! :(
[11:11] <Ruedii> RatulL It should do so automatically if you leave the boxes empty, but you can edit the scripts.
[11:11] <Pepp-elito> Ruedii, yes that's the one I'm using now..
[11:12] <Ratul> Ruedii: I left it " " but says auth error (error 19 for pppd)
[11:13] <Ratul> Ruedii: please? any idea?
[11:14] <Ruedii> Pepp-Elite: you have tried turning on double-buffer.
[11:15] <Ruedii> Ratul: make sure it's blank, no spaces.
[11:15] <maum> can someone help me about hdmi?
[11:15] <Ruedii> maum: what's the issue?
[11:15] <maum> /proc/asound/NVidia/eld#1.0:eld_valid		1
[11:16] <maum> there is no device no. 1 in profile sound preference
[11:16] <almoxarife> maum: you are not getting sound and you want it?
[11:16] <Pepp-elito> Ruedii, is this option found in nvidia-settings-manager?
[11:16] <maum> I cannot hear hdmi sound
[11:17] <maum> almoxarife, yes
[11:17] <almoxarife> maum: using the gui for sound configuration?
[11:17] <maum> yes
[11:18] <Ruedii> Maum oh, simple issue, There should be an option in the sound settings somewhere to create a unified sound output device and set it to default.  That is usually the best solution.
[11:18] <almoxarife> maum: picked the correct 'hardware' already? assuming you have more than one choice? not profile yet, just hardware
[11:18] <mansoor> How long does the repo usually take to update firefox to the latest verison?  I'm on ff8 but ff9 is already out
[11:18] <Gentoo64> mansoor: they dont always bring out new versions in the same release
[11:19] <maum> almoxarife: I already did it there is two device (hdmi, internal audio)
[11:19] <Ruedii> Maum:  The other option is of course to make sure your default output is the digital sound output in your video card.   If your card doesn't have sound output you'll need to either run a seperate sound cable or get an "injector" to hook to your sound card's SPDIF output.
[11:19] <Pepp-elito> Ruedii, how do i enable dubble-buffering for nvidia/ubuntu?
[11:19] <mansoor> Gentoo64: how do I get arround this? remove the install I did from the repo and install it directly from the FF website?
[11:19] <Gentoo64> mansoor: firefox should have a pps
[11:19] <Gentoo64> ppa*
[11:20] <maum> Ruedii: the hardware system is not a problem. I could hear the sound before I reinstall the os
[11:20] <Gentoo64> but.. im on 9 and i think its just javascript thats improved, apart from that its nothign amazing
[11:20] <Ruedii> Maum: In that case it's the settings.  You probably just have the wrong default output.
[11:21] <maum> Ruedii: output device is set to hdmi
[11:21] <maum> Ruedii: output device is now hdmi
[11:21] <almoxarife> maum: fine, in the profiles of the hardware choice you picked there will be multiple choices, nevermind what the words say, go thru each one, and the first one usually does not work (says something like 'default..... stereo), mine was option 3 or four, I forget
[11:21] <Ruedii> Maum In that case pull up your sound settings and test it.
[11:22] <Gentoo64> Pepp-elito: you mean triple buffering for vsync?
[11:22] <maum> there is several option in profile but I tested one by one but I cannot still hear the sound
[11:23] <maum> almoxarife, Ruedii: now I can hear thank you all
[11:23] <Pepp-elito> Gentoo64, I'm not sure, Ruedii asked if I had dubble-buffering enabled, as I'm having tearing issues for video-playback.. (I have v-sync enabled)
[11:23] <ubuntu> ser siek
[11:23] <ubuntu> swieć się]
[11:23] <Gentoo64> Pepp-elito: vsync simply dont wory properly on linux
[11:24] <Gentoo64> work*
[11:24] <Gentoo64> triple buffering wont affect it, you dont need it either
[11:24] <Gentoo64> Pepp-elito: what graphics drivers are you using?
[11:26] <Pepp-elito> Gentoo64, so basically you think that v-sync might be causing the problems? (Many threads on the net talk about enabling it in compiz and nvidia-settings to get rid of the problem) but now I' even running unity 2d, which should not be affected by compiz? but the problem remain..
[11:27] <Pepp-elito> Gentoo64, nvidia 290.10, have tried several..
[11:27] <Gentoo64> people say enable it in compiz, enable it in nvidia setting etc etc, and some people say it reduces it, but it bever gets rid of it completely
[11:27] <Gentoo64> i think gnome3 uses vsync by default
[11:28] <Gentoo64> the only way i can stop tearing is to use vdpau (which flash should be using anyway with your drivers)
[11:29] <Pepp-elito> Gentoo64, I'm thinking about installing 10.10 as people only starting to experience this problem since upgrading/installing ubuntu 11.04/unity
[11:29] <Guest82862> rescatux fixed my grub....woohooo
[11:29] <Gentoo64> im not sure about that, its up to you
[11:29] <Gentoo64> Pepp-elito: the DE might have something to do with it
[11:30] <Pepp-elito> Gentoo64, I don't know if it's using vdpau or not =)  but it's hardware accelerated atleast or else my computer could not manage to playback it 09
[11:31] <Pepp-elito> Gentoo64, DE?
[11:31] <Gentoo64> the unity and gnome thing
[11:31] <Gentoo64> its hard for me to say what it could be
[11:32] <Gentoo64> i use openbox, no effects, no vsync enabled anywhere, and flash / mplayer2 never tear when using vdpau
[11:32] <Gentoo64> so it could be the DE interfering somewhere
[11:32] <Pepp-elito> Gentoo64, I'm more or less sure that it's strange, because it's some underlaying change affecting both unity/unity2d/classic desktop..
[11:33] <Pepp-elito> Gentoo64, hehe. ignore parts of my previous post, does not make sense =)
[11:33] <arlo> i will have my customer see status on webserver
[11:33] <arlo> application i think
[11:33] <Gentoo64> Pepp-elito: yeah im really not sure whats causing it :s
[11:34] <Pepp-elito> Gentoo64, the problem seems to be deeper as it affectes unity/unity2d and classic desktops
[11:34] <Gentoo64> Pepp-elito: what gpu do you have? maybe it just dont support vdpau?
[11:35] <Pepp-elito> Gentoo64, nvidia ION (1 not the second gen)
[11:35] <Gentoo64> tbh i dont know what ion is, is it onboard?
[11:35] <Pepp-elito> Gentoo64, running zotac zbox nd-22...
[11:36] <Pepp-elito> Gentoo64, it's onboard i think =), but it should support vdp...
[11:37] <Gentoo64> i think most nvidias do from something like gforce 6 (or maybe 8) onwards, no udea about onboard though
[11:38] <RobNuts> what can i use besides unity?
[11:38] <Gentoo64> !nounity
[11:38] <RobNuts> ok
[11:38] <RobNuts> lol
[11:38] <bmmdeoliveira> hi guys this is my first touch with unix systems and I'm with a little difficulty
[11:38] <Gentoo64> RobNuts: :) what do you want, a plain desktop then?
[11:38] <SunTsu> RobNuts: nearly every windowmanager and Desktop Environment there is for linux
[11:39] <RobNuts> not completely sure. 2nd day trying linux. tried mint 12 first but it was too buggy for me
[11:39] <RobNuts> so ppl said go ubuntu. play with for about an hour and don't care for the unity bar stuff
[11:39] <Gentoo64> RobNuts: do google images for kde, xfce, lxde,
[11:39] <Gentoo64> see what you like tyhe look of
[11:39] <SunTsu> RobNuts: well, there's kde, xfce, openbox, gnome3, and lots more, if you have enough disk space you can install them all, compare them and remove what you didn't like afterwards
[11:39] <bmmdeoliveira> one thing my computer is one HP G62 with two graphic cards. one ATI and other Intel
[11:40] <RobNuts> have about 50gb. would rather do that. just install all of them so i can give a go
[11:40] <bmmdeoliveira> and my system can't detect
[11:40] <Pepp-elito> ubottu, was this an suggestion to my tearing issue or related to something else?
[11:40] <Pepp-elito> ubottu, haha
[11:40] <bmmdeoliveira> someone have the instructions for I install correctly these two graphics cards?
[11:41] <Pepp-elito> talking to a bot =)
[11:41] <Gentoo64> :)
[11:41] <RobNuts> i did sudo apt-get install gnome-session-fallback. i guess that's gnome classic
[11:41] <jutnux> !ask | bmmdeoliveira
[11:41] <jutnux> bmmdeoliveira: Please tell everyone what graphics cards you have.
[11:41] <SunTsu> RobNuts: don't geuss, see what ubottu wrote
[11:42] <RobNuts> similar to gnome 2 than. not gnome classic...
[11:42] <RobNuts> !classic
[11:42] <Pepp-elito> Anyone in here that have or have had tearing issues in ubuntu 11.04?
[11:42] <RobNuts> cuz it didn't say classic
[11:42] <RobNuts> forum post said it was
[11:43] <Gentoo64> RobNuts: gnome classic is alright, if you just want a basic one-panel then lxde is good
[11:43] <Gentoo64> its little bit like windows xp
[11:44] <RobNuts> i guess i'm used to winblows. i want a taskbar with an app menu. that's all really
[11:44] <Gentoo64> id say lxde then
[11:44] <Gentoo64> its pretty faultless
[11:46] <maltee_h> Hello @all!
[11:46] <maltee_h> Sorry for my bad english, but i have an problem with my cinelerra
[11:46] <maltee_h> When I want to Open a Video, I become an error: virtual int FileMOV::read_frame(VFrame*): quicktime_read_frame/quicktime_decode_video failed, result:
[11:46] <bmmdeoliveira> !ask I have a hp G62 with two graphic card and I have the ubuntu 11.10. and I can't install any graphic card. some one could help me?
[11:46] <maltee_h> and virtual int FileOGG::read_frame(VFrame*): Expecting a keyframe, but  didn't get it
[11:46] <maltee_h> an anyone help me, please?
[11:46] <bmmdeoliveira> !ask
[11:47] <oCean> bmmdeoliveira: no need to start a line with !ask :)
[11:47] <Gentoo64> bmmdeoliveira: so you cant boot?
[11:48] <bmmdeoliveira> yes. I have a terminal window. I have one ati hd5470 and ione intel hd graphics
[11:48] <Gentoo64> can you not disable the intel in the bios?
[11:48] <Pepp-elito> Anyone here that is using an ION based system and have experienced video-tearing on ubuntu 11.04?
[11:49] <Gentoo64> Pepp-elito: yeah sorry i cany help more with that :s
[11:50] <bmmdeoliveira> no I can't disable the intel graphics card
[11:50] <Pepp-elito> Gentoo64, no problem, tanks anyway. I think it's a hard problem to solve if you have not experinced it your self..
[11:50] <Gentoo64> Pepp-elito: i did a couple of years ago with an ati card, no amount of tweaking vsync options anywhere worked properly
[11:51] <DarkStar1> Does anyone here use eclipse 3.7?
[11:52] <Pepp-elito> Gentoo64, the sad part seems to be that it's related to 11.04 and people have not experinced it before upgrading to 11.04 (atleast for the nvidia ION chipset )
[11:52] <Gentoo64> Pepp-elito: if you could cloe your drive then maybe its worth quickly testing 10.10
[11:52] <Gentoo64> clone*
[11:53] <btaylor927> Hi, could someone help? I'm on 11.10 and trying to make a desktop launcher to run an sh file. If the command is ./file.sh it gives an error about being unable to execute the child process. If it is sh, it just does nothing...
[11:56] <Pepp-elito> Gentoo64, yeah, think I will try it during the holidays.. Tanks for your support1
[11:56] <SlyUk> btaylor927 what about             sh ~/a/b/c/file.sh
[11:57] <RobNuts> installing lxde
[11:57] <RobNuts> installed and didn't care for gnome 3 nor gnome classic
[11:58] <btaylor927> I'll try, but the launcher and the sh file are in the same directory. One sec.
[12:00] <btaylor927> SlyUK, no, adding the full file directory didn't help
[12:02] <Motafoca> guys, i have a tablet with a hid-multitouch supported device, on livecd the module is loaded and works perfect, after install not. Then i added the script to udev and now the module loads, but the device still is recognized as hid-generic (dmesg). Any ideas?
[12:04] <DarkStar1> is there a gui tool that allows you to see bg tasks? much like the windows task manager?
[12:04] <akston> i'm trying to use brasero to burn a large amount of data across two discs, but when i press the "Burn Several Discs" button, nothing happens.
[12:04] <DarkStar1> Yes I know how to use ps but I'd rather have a nice clean output in a smaller window
[12:05] <SlyUk> DarkStar1 what about htop ?
[12:06] <SlyUk> btaylor927 i am trying to replicate it but a sh file of mine launchers fine.
[12:06] <btaylor927> SlyUK, could it be the contents of the sh file choking it?
[12:06] <DarkStar1> SlyUk: never heard of it
[12:06] <krzysztof> siwy
[12:07] <btaylor927> I'm using an sh file to get minecraft to work with the 64 bit JDK 7
[12:07] <btaylor927> Also, does anyone know a good app with a gui for controlling fan speeds? This new laptop gets incredibly hot :(
[12:09] <RobNuts> command line to run software manager?
[12:09] <RobNuts> can't find it in the menus in lxde
[12:11] <dr_willis> RobNuts:  thers 'synaptic' if its installed.
[12:11] <RobNuts> sudo software-center --enable-lp?
[12:12] <RobNuts> lxde is ugly
[12:13] <txomon|nqas> RobNuts, its basic, fast and perfect
[12:13] <RobNuts> lol
[12:14] <txomon|nqas> menu
[12:14] <txomon|nqas> preferences-> synaptic
[12:14] <jutnux> txomon|nqas: XFCE (l)
[12:14] <XeonBloomfield> Which filesystem for pendrive is better - ext2 or ext4?
[12:14] <dr_willis> I dont find lxde ugly at all
[12:14] <txomon|nqas> neither do I
[12:15] <txomon|nqas> jutnux, it is matter of tastes
[12:15] <ikonia> XeonBloomfield: ext4 is the current filesystem, I advise you to use that unless you have reason not to
[12:15] <RobNuts> maybe if i tweak the fonts
[12:15] <dr_willis> XeonBloomfield:  i tend to use ext4 just because im lazy. :) ive heard it can ware out the drives faster.. but ive not had a usb drive wear out yet.. but i Have had 'regualr' hard drives break more often then my usbs
[12:15] <RobNuts> and color scheme
[12:15] <dr_willis> XeonBloomfield:  id say ext3 or ext4. not sure why you would want ext2 these days
[12:15] <ikonia> dr_willis: that was when early ext4 didn't support trimp on SSD's
[12:15] <SlyUk> xeon i always use fat32  for pen drives, the nature of them is to carry them about / transport files.................. so you at some point are going to stick it in a windows box.
[12:15] <ikonia> dr_willis: that issue is long long gone
[12:15] <dr_willis> ikonia:  but does that apply to usb flash drives?
[12:16] <XeonBloomfield> I don't want to transfer data with Windows boxes ;)
[12:16] <ikonia> dr_willis: yes
[12:16] <XeonBloomfield> I have another pendrive for it
[12:16] <dr_willis> XeonBloomfield:  my current install is on a 32gb flash - a full normal install. using ext4
[12:16] <XeonBloomfield> dr_willis: ext2 doesn't have journaling
[12:17] <dr_willis> XeonBloomfield:   thats good and bad. :)
[12:17] <txomon|nqas> RobNuts, but if it is not enough cool for you, try gnome3, kubuntu etc
[12:17] <txomon|nqas> gnome-shell*
[12:18] <RobNuts> lxde is probably fine if i change the fonts and colors
[12:18] <RobNuts> lot faster
[12:19] <RobNuts> looks like i'm in win 98
[12:19] <RobNuts> lol
[12:19] <dr_willis> i use lxde mainly on my netbook.
[12:21] <XeonBloomfield> Merry Christmas and Happy New Year
[12:23] <kalessin_> Trying to mount a NAS drive; it's plugged into my router; device says 10.10.1.246... appears in Nautilus 'Browse Network' on my Ubuntu machine with "nas-58-3B-9C (AFP)" and "nas-58-3B-9C (AFP)" labels; any connect times out; can't ping it from the local network. I've followed a few online guides but the semi-visibility of the device isn't addressed in any of them. Pretty sure I'm missing something really obvious here.
[12:23] <BTaylor927> Regarding the problem I'm having getting an sh script to run from a desktop launcher, this is the script: http://pastebin.com/VVG514X8
[12:24] <ikonia> BTaylor927: you've not set the classpath, why are you setting ld_library path ?
[12:25] <Vaxu> hey, I'm trying to install ubuntu (or actually mint :p) on an macbook pro, can anyone give me any hints on how to do it, i mean on a pc it's easy but doesnt mac have efi instead of bios etc? partitioning? dont want to mess up my gfs comp
[12:25] <ikonia> Vaxu: use the mint support resources
[12:25] <ikonia> !mint | Vaxu
[12:25] <BTaylor927> To be honest, I'm not sure. That was just the first solution I found online to resolve minecraft not working in 64 bit
[12:25] <txomon|nqas> RobNuts, It does, and i love it xD its really usefull for semi-server computers
[12:25] <BTaylor927> If someone has a cleaner solution, I'd be happy to know it :)
[12:25] <ikonia> BTaylor927: doesn't seem a good setup to me
[12:25] <Vaxu> ok, always used ubuntu myself :P
[12:26] <ikonia> Vaxu: well, you said you wanted to install mint, they have a good support process
[12:26] <RobNuts> txomon|nqasL I see. Windows 7 was just getting way to slow for this old pc. I'm sure I would get used to some of these DE's if i spend the time to get comfortable with them.
[12:26] <txomon|nqas> BTaylor927, xD minecraft, run it as java -jar minecraft.jar
[12:26] <Vaxu> yeah i bet they do, just thought if anyone knows what to think about
[12:26] <Vaxu> will do a search, thx anyways
[12:27] <BTaylor927> Every time I did, txomon|nqas, it'd just output a black screen after login
[12:27] <ikonia> Vaxu: they will know better, and they are the best people to ask
[12:27] <BTaylor927> Which is apparently an issue with using it on 64 bit
[12:27] <BTaylor927> ikonia, do you have a suggestion for a better solution please?
[12:28] <ikonia> I don't use minecraft, so I'd have to research it's setup
[12:28] <txomon|nqas> BTaylor927, are you using a modified one?
[12:29] <BTaylor927> txomon|nqas, no I'm not. Completely stock copy from the minecraft site on a fresh install
[12:29] <txomon|nqas> BTaylor927, did you install the jre ?
[12:30] <DarkStar1> I'm having issues changing my system's locale, I have just about tried everything yet nothing works.
[12:30] <BTaylor927> txomon|nqas, yes, via the instructions from here: http://askubuntu.com/questions/56104/how-can-i-install-oracle-java-jre-7
[12:31] <txomon|nqas> dont use jre7
[12:31] <txomon|nqas> that is a very bad idea
[12:31] <txomon|nqas> its not tested
[12:32] <txomon|nqas> BTaylor927, use the one in the archives
[12:32] <DarkStar1> everything defaults back to en_US (especially the monetary value which is in $) . http://fpaste.org/W4zj/ are the output of two locale files. Is there anything else I'm missing?
[12:32] <dr_willis> I thought  i saw a post last week about how eventually Oracle will  be using the open sourced java.. (on some blog site)
[12:33] <txomon|nqas> BTaylor927, you can even select between the opensource openjdk-6-jre or the privative
[12:33] <BTaylor927> txomon|nqas, so avoid 7 for now and just go with sun java 6?
[12:34] <txomon|nqas> yep
[12:34] <txomon|nqas> ah the privative package is sun-java6-jre but you have to activate the restricted
[12:34] <txomon|nqas> (or multiverse) dont remember
[12:35] <DarkStar1> can anyone help?
[12:36] <BTaylor927> okay txomon|nqas, cheers
[12:41] <BTaylor927> Also, does anyone know how I can control my fans on an intel motherboard?
[12:43] <txomon|nqas> DarkStar1, let me check
[12:45] <txomon|nqas> DarkStar1, supposing you are in ubuntu, just specify your language...
[12:45] <vargadanis> hello everyone... Thought I'd share something how I managed to speed up my ubuntu 11.10.. I have a crappy old laptop with a dead battery... The fans were so dirty that there were literally no airflow... cleaning that somehow made the whole computer work faster
[12:45] <vargadanis> might be because the CPU is closer to its optimal operating temperature? dunno
[12:45] <elementary> :cool
[12:46] <txomon|nqas> DarkStar1, I think /etc/enviroment has also to be changed
[12:46] <txomon|nqas> but
[12:46] <txomon|nqas> try to do it from the graphic menus
[12:46] <DarkStar1> txomon|nqas: How? I have followed http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1346581 http://nanalegumene.net/post/199618513/change-language-in-ubuntu-server and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1346581
[12:46] <txomon|nqas> im leaving sry
[12:46] <txomon|nqas> DarkStar1, http://blog.andrewbeacock.com/2007/01/how-to-change-your-default-locale-on.html
[12:46] <txomon|nqas> bye!
[12:47] <DarkStar1> txomon|nqas: I've just added the values to etc /environment and have restarted after reconfiguring
[12:47] <DarkStar1> so I will test again soon
[12:49] <dagerik> When I hit the left side button on my mouse, I expect a file browser to go up one folder. Nautilus does not do this. Is this normal?
[12:49] <elementary> AMD FX-4100 vs AMD FX-6100 (for a gaming system)
[12:49] <elementary> oops wrong room
[12:50] <dr_willis> dagerik:  perhaps bind that mouse key to do whatever key combo goes up one level.
[12:50] <dr_willis> backspace perhaps?
[12:50] <DarkStar1> txomon|nqas: No joy
[12:50] <RobNuts> i think maybe i should go kubuntu or xubuntu
[12:51] <RobNuts> workin with 1gb ram
[12:51] <dr_willis> dagerik:  it does go up a level here..
[12:51] <dr_willis> dagerik:  never tried it befor. ;)
[12:51] <Pepp-elito> Anyone here that is using an ION based system and have experienced video-tearing on ubuntu 11.04?
[12:51] <dagerik> dr_willis: Very nice suggestion. I will try it.
[12:51] <TiMiDo> Pepp-elito, ask your question
[12:52] <vargadanis> is it somehow possible to disable most if not all the visual effects for the desktop on 11.10? That kinda slows down my computer and I need all the speed I can get :S
[12:52] <vargadanis> crappy computer....
[12:53] <g0dkar> try xubuntu :P
[12:53] <TiMiDo> yeah
[12:54] <Pepp-elito> I'm experiencing tearing for flash videos in the browser, had this before in xbmc as well, but was fixed by using unity2d. But unity2d did not solve the browser issue
[12:54] <vargadanis> so this unity interface is a replacement for X?
[12:54] <dagerik> dr_willis: I can not find a setting where I can map a mouseclick to a keyboard click.
[12:54] <vargadanis> is it API or ABI compatible for drivers?
[12:55] <jmscomtech> can i get some input please, if anyone here has a bluray player can they let me now if having libbluray installed, with xbmc compiled from source actually playbacks the bluray disc
[12:57] <TiMiDo> jmscomtech, build it your self so you can upload it via ppa ;) for other users.
[12:57] <TiMiDo> that might be having the same problem
[12:57] <jmscomtech> TiMiDo: i wanted to know if it actually works before i go and install buntu
[12:58] <TiMiDo> oh lOl try it your self
[12:58] <TiMiDo> or look in the ppa jmscomtech it self
[12:58] <vargadanis> jmscomtech, you can try it w/o installing ubuntu
[12:58] <jmscomtech> but libbluray needs to be installed and the xbmc compiled
[12:59] <vargadanis> you could try live disk, pretty much you get almost all the features of an installed ubuntu and you can even install new applications
[12:59] <jutnux> Is there a way that I can install packages from the LiveCD to my Ubuntu partition?
[12:59] <vargadanis> or try some virtualization software
[12:59] <vargadanis> 3 mins. to install and then the ubuntu 20 mins
[12:59] <jmscomtech> hmm i just wanted to know if it workes with encrypted discs or still needed to be dumphd
[13:00] <jmscomtech> virtual wont use blurays as a playback thats the probs
[13:00] <mote> Are "Linux ubuntu 3.2.0-6-generic #12-Ubuntu" the same as "v3.2-rc6-precise"
[13:00] <jmscomtech> hmm i spose only way is to download ubuntu install it and try it myself dang i hate doing that
[13:00] <TiMiDo> no mote
[13:01] <mattfoo> how do i modify the hostname that shows up in my prompt where i use a \h
[13:01] <mattfoo> ?
[13:01] <TiMiDo> mattfoo, nano /etc/hostsname
[13:01] <mote> thanks
[13:01] <TiMiDo> no problem ;)
[13:04] <damaex_> nano...
[13:04] <jmscomtech> just curious can i use nvidia drivers in a .rpm format in ubuntu?
[13:05] <kasih> test
[13:05] <kasih> join to linux
[13:06] <vargadanis> jmscomtech, no... but there is an app called alien
[13:07] <vargadanis> jmscomtech, you can convert rpms to debs with it and debs are installable with dpkg on ubuntu
[13:07] <dr_willis> and some times alien wont break your system.. :)
[13:07] <dr_willis> !alien
[13:08] <crizzy> why on earth would you install nvidia drivers from rpm in first place
[13:08] <jmscomtech> its a .run file but i believe it unpacks a rpm file
[13:09] <jmscomtech> why is the dvd installer for 64bit only 650mb?
[13:09] <jmscomtech> is that normal?
[13:09] <TiMiDo> yes jmscomtech
[13:10] <TiMiDo> because all the other packages you install them your self via net install
[13:10] <proxx8187> do a md5check :)
[13:11] <proxx8187> for a quick and dirty workaround i want to mount a directory from my home folder to the tree, is this possible aka how ??
[13:11] <jmscomtech> ahh ok
[13:11] <jutnux> Can I install packages to my main installation using an Ubuntu live CD? Need to reinstall GDM -.-
[13:11] <BTaylor927> Aside from the built in one, does anyone know of a twitter client which will keep an icon in the top menu bar in 11.10?
[13:11] <proxx8187> can i just loop mount it back ?
[13:11] <TiMiDo> proxx8187, man mount
[13:12] <TiMiDo> yes jutnux apt-cdrom ;)
[13:12] <vargadanis> jutnux, it is possible I believe if you chroot into the mounted partition of the real install
[13:12] <vargadanis> but i am no expert on the subject
[13:12] <iv4nBR_> Insert the command setfont-v / etc / rc.local and configuration is not running. Any ideas?
[13:12] <jmscomtech> just wanted to check ifi the combo allows bluray playback without needing a dumphd to be middleman as it were and virtualisation doesnt allow for playback of blurays oh well soon find out
[13:13] <jutnux> Thank you both.
[13:13] <krisss117> hi i need replace in bash script one array [1,2,3,4,5,6,7] and second array [a,b,c,d,e,f,g,h] how replace in text like " asd 1 asd 2 asd 4" to  "asd a asd b asd d"
[13:13] <krisss117> ??
[13:13] <krisss117> any idea ?
[13:14] <vargadanis> krisss117, try regex... 2 more apps get to mind: awk and sed
[13:14] <vargadanis> sed will more than likely do just fine
[13:14] <vargadanis> might be a support channel for both
[13:16] <krisss117> ok, thanks
[13:17] <dr_willis> proxx8187:  you can use soft links to make directorys appear somewhere else
[13:18] <proxx8187> that would be possible except for the fact that the program (wine) expects a cd drive, i could just iso the folder and mount that , but i first wanted to check if this is going to work
[13:18] <dr_willis> proxx8187:  i think the wineconfig tool lets you set up a folder to appear as a cd.
[13:18] <dr_willis> proxx8187:  what are you doing that wine needs a cd?
[13:18] <proxx8187> right :) good idea
[13:18] <proxx8187> trying to install something :)
[13:19] <dr_willis> In the past ive copied stuff from 'cd' to a folder and isntalled from there.. it would be a weird game/program that dident work that way
[13:20] <proxx8187> iam using play on linux, wanted to try their scripts, this is all gui sh*t where leaves me little option for those kinda things
[13:20] <proxx8187> lol it just says : this is not a cd :P
[13:22] <proxx8187> what the heck ill just make some isos
[13:24] <proxx8187> btw, should i use dd to make an iso , or is there a "safer"  method ?
[13:24] <proxx8187> dd stands for "death and destroy" right
[13:27] <proxx8187> pls.. anyone ??
[13:27] <dagerik> When I edit my screen or power settings, the settings are not remembered when i log in next time. Same behavior with the unity toolbar on the left; if I add or remove something, it goes back to default when I log in next time.
[13:28] <TiMiDo> dagerik, is your user name  add it to the root account?
[13:28] <dagerik> What could cause this strange behavior?
[13:28] <dagerik> TiMiDo: I do not understand what you are saying.
[13:29] <proxx8187> as what user are u editing the file ??
[13:29] <TiMiDo> that your user name is not add it to the root group
[13:29] <TiMiDo> dagerik, sudo adduser username sudo
[13:29] <dagerik> TiMiDo: I do not understand what you are saying.
[13:30] <TiMiDo> dagerik, then man adduser
[13:30] <dagerik> TiMiDo: I mean the first sentence.
[13:31] <proxx8187> TiMiDo; i think ur blowing him away, hes rather new i think
[13:31] <TiMiDo> yeah i think he is ;)
[13:31] <proxx8187> dagerik; ur editing ur power setting... do you type in a password before u do that ???
[13:31] <dagerik> Yes I am new.
[13:32] <dagerik> proxx8187: No, I am editing settings through gnome-control-center
[13:32] <proxx8187> try running that as root (right timido ??)
[13:32] <TiMiDo> yes the command you run it with sudo
[13:32] <DarkStar1> can anyone help me with my problem?
[13:33] <llutz> TiMiDo: ubuntu uses group "admin" for sudo access
[13:33] <dagerik> Same results running it as root-.
[13:33] <TiMiDo> or read this https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PowerManagement
[13:33] <DarkStar1> I have literally hit a wall and out of ideas
[13:33] <proxx8187> DarkStar1; just ask
[13:33] <esc> hi, i need the keyboard shortcut to switch between screens
[13:33] <devish> will this line add ppa "sudo add-apt-repository ppa:chromium-daily"
[13:33] <esc> i havd dual monitor setup
[13:33] <proxx8187> this is a support channel ur welcome to post the question directly :)
[13:34] <esc> sepearte x screens, not twinview
[13:34] <TiMiDo> yeah devish
[13:34] <DarkStar1> Ok you may have joined after I did :). I've been unsuccessfully trying to change the default time/date and currency locale for my ubuntu server
[13:34] <esc> anyone have an idea?
[13:34] <llutz> DarkStar1: sudo dpgk-reconfigure tzdata
[13:34] <llutz> dpkg*
[13:34] <TiMiDo> DarkStar1, 11.02?
[13:35] <DarkStar1> 10.10
[13:35] <TiMiDo> oh
[13:35] <TiMiDo> damn that's old
[13:35] <TiMiDo> lol
[13:35] <DarkStar1> llutz: tzdata or locale?
[13:35] <llutz> DarkStar1: tzdata first to make sure TZ is set correctly, then https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Locale
[13:36] <devish> what is chromium-daily here "sudo add-apt-repository ppa:chromium-daily"
[13:36] <TiMiDo> darkcharl, tzdata or read this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuTime
[13:36] <esc> um, can anyone help me?
[13:36] <alidolat> :)
[13:37] <psicobra> any one able to help me with slow graphics
[13:37] <alidolat> My system hangs when its on battery power for like 20 minutes and I'm surfng web via firefox
[13:37] <esc> xserver switch screens
[13:38] <dagerik> When I edit e.g. screen or power settings through gnome-control-center, the changes are not applied. And when I go back into gnome-control-center, the settings are defaulted back. Same behaviour with the unity left panel. What could cause this strange behavior? Using 11.10.
[13:38] <DarkStar1> llutz: will that also reset my currency?
[13:38] <psicobra> i have a tecra m3 laptop with nvidia go 6200/6600 TE graphics card i have the 3rd party drivers installed and gets 1000 fps on glxgears but games like amagedtron will not work so slow
[13:39] <llutz> DarkStar1: tzdata only affects TZ (timezone-settings) not your locale. for those read link i gave you
[13:39] <DarkStar1> llutz: reading
[13:43] <psicobra> no one any good with graphics problems?
[13:43] <proxx8187> depends...
[13:44] <proxx8187> do you have switchable grahpics ?
[13:44] <psicobra> what do you mean switchable graphics?
[13:44] <proxx8187> optimus ?
[13:44] <psicobra> what do you mean switchable?
[13:45] <JamesMiddendorff> how long will ubuntu offer gnome-classic? or is that gnome that offers it?
[13:46] <proxx8187> nevermind, if u have 1000fps ur card is working alright.. did you check out powersettings nvidia-settings ??
[13:46] <psicobra> yes
[13:46] <psicobra> nvidia settings all seem on just wont run 3d
[13:46] <psicobra> or very slowly
[13:47] <proxx8187> psicobra; thats indeed funny considering glxgears runs opengl
[13:48] <psicobra> yeah i know the weird thing is a couple of time it has run weird once i close ad reopen it has run ok but then not done it since
[13:48] <proxx8187> psicobra; have you installed a new kernel since ??
[13:49] <tonk> how to open the folder "/home/tonk/.cache/winetricks/msxml3" from teminal ?
[13:49] <proxx8187> psicobra; its a long shot, but it could be possible that the nvidia module is sick
[13:49] <resonantsky> Hey
[13:49] <psicobra> i have done all the updates but it didnt work this is the first time i have installed ubuntu on this laptop
[13:49] <resonantsky> does anyone have a link to a Unity manual?
[13:49] <resonantsky> local or internet?
[13:50] <resonantsky> !unity
[13:50] <proxx8187> psicobra; wait.. how old is this laptop of yours ?
[13:50] <psicobra> running glxgears nvidia temp is at 85C
[13:50] <psicobra> got to be 6 years ols 2005 i think
[13:50] <Pepp-elito> Hi, does anyone know how to add a resolution in ubuntu, My crpy TV needs 1360x768, which is not in the list of resolutions in nvidia-settings. (using nvidia ION chipset)
[13:50] <proxx8187> psicobra; oke , nevermind that..
[13:50] <psicobra> 87C
[13:51] <proxx8187> psicobra; did you try  the open source drivers ?
[13:51] <resonantsky> !notunity
[13:51] <resonantsky> !classic
[13:51] <kfizz> I need to mount a samba share on my laptop. There are two IP's for the remote computer: one for the network and one connected to another machine. So, if I try to mount via //host_name/share_name, it fails (nmblookup host_name gives two IP's). I can mount it via //dhcp_ip/share_name just fine though. This is going to be a permanent mount, so obviously mounting a DHCP IP is going to give issues. Is there any way to have samba ignore the
[13:51] <psicobra> i havent tried the open source drivers but surely the 3d will not work at all with those?
[13:52] <psicobra> 88C
[13:52] <resonantsky> *grumbles*
[13:52] <proxx8187> psicobra; right and u installed the driver through the gui tool ??
[13:52] <psicobra> yes
[13:52] <proxx8187> psicobra; coz u could try the nvidia website
[13:53] <sweb> https://gist.github.com/0c1c9eac31087aeae91f what's problem
[13:53] <sweb> ?
[13:53] <proxx8187> psicobra; check out the driver there and see if how that goes
[13:53] <psicobra> i cant fond a driver on the Nvidia website for the Go 6200 TE
[13:53] <llutz> DarkStar1: language-pack-fr and language-pack-fr-base are installed?
[13:53] <resonantsky> does anyone have manpage for unity commands? unity service commands etc?
[13:54] <DarkStar1> llutz: checking
[13:54] <pitlimit> I want to go from 11.04 to 10.04 LTS... I am installing from the lucid cd... there is no option to keep my home folder... can anyone tell me how to do this?
[13:54] <proxx8187> psicobra; it has a clean ncurses gui... i think they have a driver, course iam not sure, but most drivers are packed in a single file
[13:54] <dread> pitlimit: copy home folder somwhere, usb stick, other partiotion, ...
[13:55] <pitlimit> dread how do i do that? my 11.04 is crashed
[13:55] <DarkStar1> llutz: Just installed
[13:55] <dread> boot from live cd
[13:55] <pitlimit> i used the encryption option dread
[13:55] <pitlimit> will this be a problem
[13:55] <DarkStar1> will reboot and let you know
[13:56] <psicobra> ok will give it a go
[13:56] <tom73> ciao
[13:56] <psicobra> have i got to kill X to install it?
[13:56] <tom73> !list
[13:57] <psicobra> proxx8187, how do i kill X?
[13:57] <faz> any body cn help with screen resolution in ubuntu>>>>>>>
[13:58] <Pepp-elito> Hi, does anyone know how to add a resolution in ubuntu, My crpy TV needs 1360x768, which is not in the list of resolutions in nvidia-settings. (using nvidia ION chipset)
[13:58] <proxx8187> psicobra; killall gdm && killall Xorg
[13:59] <sweb> any one ?
[13:59] <llutz> psicobra: sudo service lightdm stop
[13:59] <psicobra> Pepp-elito, try using the nvidia utility to change res
[13:59] <proxx8187> llutz; exactly lol
[13:59] <proxx8187> i dont use gdm :P
[13:59] <faz> any body cn help with screen resolution in ubuntu>>>>>>>
[13:59] <psicobra> ty
[13:59] <llutz> proxx8187: why do you suggest to kill it then?
[14:00] <Pepp-elito> psicobra, nvidia-utility same as settingsmanager?
[14:00] <Mangeh> I'm having trouble reformatting a USB stick, i go into GParted and it shows it as a 8.00mb volume and has no partitions on it, I try to create a partition table but doesn't do anything
[14:00] <micah> !help
[14:01] <warfaren> !patience
[14:02] <proxx8187> llutz; well i didnt , nvdia driver install does :)
[14:02] <faz> i want my resolution uptoo 1240x1024 but 800x700 is available??????
[14:04] <r4y> What version of Ubuntu are you running?, I mean I haven't tried Unity yet.
[14:05] <r4y> Do you have an nvidia graphics card?
[14:05] <r4y> If I can't help you, I can at least get the ball rolling for you faz
[14:06] <r4y> Where is everyone?
[14:06] <yunfan> hi there, i am using a intel core i7 with ubuntu 10.04.3 and i found that almost all system thread has 8 times , and some other auto start service like gnome-pty-helper has multi times too, so who can tell what's wrong? i paste the ps aux output at http://paste.ubuntu.org.cn/110993
[14:06] <faz> r4y what???
[14:06] <r4y> What graphics card do you have?
[14:07] <psicobra> proxx8187, didnt work
[14:07] <proxx8187> psicobra; what didnt
[14:08] <psicobra> install the nvidia drivers from nvidia
[14:08] <faz> rage 128 pro
[14:08] <proxx8187> psicobra; lol yes i understand, what happend
[14:08] <psicobra> ?
[14:08] <JamesMiddendorff> ok back, somehow messed up my gnome3 already lol
[14:09] <psicobra> the srivers installed ok but i have the same problem
[14:09] <psicobra> drivers
[14:09] <douglas-web-dev> Good afternoon!
[14:10] <proxx8187> psicobra; oke i understand, you rebooted ? and run nvidia-xconfig from cli
[14:10] <psicobra> no i let it automatically configure the driver
[14:10] <douglas-web-dev> Is there some project for running Unity (Web browser plugin for 3D games) on Linux?
[14:11] <proxx8187> psicobra; oke try running nvidia-xconfig , reboot ...
[14:11] <psicobra> ok
[14:11] <psicobra> what was copmmand to kill x again?
[14:13] <proxx8187> lol i dont know, killall Xorg    but i dont know gdm coz i dont use it
[14:13] <faz> i want my resolution uptoo 1240x1024 but 800x700 is available??????
[14:14] <dr_willis> faz:  you installed the proper drivers for your video card? (what is your video card?)
[14:14] <faz> rage 128 pro ati
[14:14] <dr_willis> thats a very old ati card isent it?
[14:15] <dagerik> My computer could not startup the GUI, so I now only have a shell. Now I have installed some things and want to see if it works now, how can I go ahead and test it without rebooting?
[14:15] <dr_willis> dagerik:  installed what? test what?
[14:15] <dr_willis> dagerik:  you mean start up X ? 'startx' does that
[14:15] <faz> insent it?
[14:18] <maum> where is the remote desktop menu?
[14:20] <mebigfatguy1> maum: you can search for it in the dasher, and drag it into the dasher
[14:20] <dagerik> dr_willis: Yes I wanted to start X. Thanks :)
[14:20] <maum> mebigfatguy1: ok, I see
[14:21] <vydd> hi...window titles don't change for me in tabbed apps when switching tabs, in terminal when they should point to current directory, etc. they do change when I maximize the app and bring it back to normal size... how do I fix this?
[14:22] <dr_willis> vydd:  you mean in gnome-terminal ?
[14:22] <tonk> how do i run a patch file ?
[14:22] <dr_willis> tonk:  you use the patch command i belive.
[14:23] <vydd> dr_willis: yes, gnome-terminal. tabbed apps include gedit, chrome
[14:23] <dr_willis> tonk:  what are you trying to do exactly?
[14:23] <mebigfatguy1> tonk: source file patch file?
[14:23] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[14:23] <tonk> dr_willis: in terminal "patch -p1 raw.patch" will run the patch file ?
[14:24] <tonk> it is a .patch file
[14:24] <dr_willis> tonk:  no idea. been years since ive had to patch source code.
[14:24] <mebigfatguy1> patch -p? < raw.patch
[14:24] <mebigfatguy1> where the question mark depends on what level the patch file was taken at
[14:24] <mebigfatguy1> the patch file might have something like  /a/you/patch
[14:24] <mebigfatguy1> where a isn't part of your structure
[14:25] <mebigfatguy1> in that case the ? is 1
[14:25] <mebigfatguy1> or the patch file might say /your/patch/path
[14:25] <mebigfatguy1> in which it ? should be 0
[14:26] <tonk> the file is locate on /home/tonk/Skrivbord so i type in terminal "patch -p1 < /home/tonk/Skrivbord/raw.patch" ?
[14:26] <mebigfatguy1> tonk: it depends whats inside raw.patch
[14:26] <dr_willis> and dont you need to be in the source tree somewhere?
[14:27] <tonk> it is a patch for wine (not suported) to make the mouse work in a game :P
[14:27] <mebigfatguy1> here's one of mine, in it has:
[14:27] <mebigfatguy1> --- java/engine/org/apache/derby/impl/load/ExportWriteData.java	(revision 1198126)
[14:27] <mebigfatguy1> +++ java/engine/org/apache/derby/impl/load/ExportWriteData.java	(working copy)
[14:27] <mebigfatguy1> since that path is correct, you would use -p0
[14:27] <dr_willis> try it and see i guess..
[14:27] <theadmin> tonk: Then don't you need to recompile wine? Do you want?
[14:27] <mebigfatguy1> but if it said
[14:27] <mebigfatguy1> ---a/ java/engine/org/apache/derby/impl/load/ExportWriteData.java	(revision 1198126)
[14:27] <mebigfatguy1> +++ a/java/engine/org/apache/derby/impl/load/ExportWriteData.java	(working copy)
[14:27] <dr_willis> or course.. make backups :)
[14:27] <mebigfatguy1> the a isn't part of the real path, you would use -p1
[14:28] <DarkStar1> is there a switch to pass to apt which tells it to grab a packages' dependencies
[14:28] <Pepp-elito> Hi, does anyone know how to add a resolution in ubuntu, My crpy TV needs 1360x768, which is not in the list of resolutions in nvidia-settings. (using nvidia ION chipset) xrandr return error no gamma
[14:28] <DarkStar1> I thought this was done by default
[14:28] <theadmin> DarkStar1: Um, it is done by default.
[14:28] <dr_willis> DarkStar1:  it is default as far as i know..
[14:28] <tonk> folowed this guide http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=21092 and just beleved i neded to figure out how toopen .patch files in ubuntu ^^
[14:28] <mebigfatguy1> Pepp-elito: i think the possible resolutions come from the driver: don't know if you can inject a different one
[14:29] <theadmin> tonk: .patch files are applied to source code :D Meaning you have to compile the program the patch is for yourself. It's quite difficult.
[14:29] <proxx8187> Pepp-elito; it isnt all as great as it sounds but look into randr from the console
[14:29] <proxx8187> xrandr
[14:29] <DarkStar1> hhhhmmmm Having troubles getting a package  to install with all it's dependencies
[14:29] <proxx8187> it is possible to add resolutions and hack ur way around it , as i said it isnt as good as it sounds
[14:30] <tonk> theadmin: oh crap lol im noob and just wanted to make the mouse work in that game. hehe
[14:30] <theadmin> tonk: Might want a different version of wine where it just works?
[14:30] <dr_willis> tonk:  you dont patch binaries. :) if thats what you were thinking.
[14:31] <tonk> theadmin: it dosnt work witout using that patch everyone sais. no good guides i find how to do it tho
[14:31] <DarkStar1> btw anyone using pidgin know how to disable join\leaving announcements ?
[14:32] <theadmin> DarkStar1: On IRC? There's a plugin called "IRC Helper" in the Pidgin Plugin Pack, it does that for you.\
[14:32] <DarkStar1> theadmin: thx
[14:32] <Pepp-elito> proxx8187, xrandr just returns an error while trying to add mode-row. Seems to be nvidia related. I guess 1360x768 should be supported by a fairly new nvidiachipset or?
[14:33] <theadmin> DarkStar1: But I suggest you get a real IRC client instead.
[14:33] <proxx8187> Pepp-elito; us sure ur monitor supports this
[14:33]  * DarkStar1 mumbles "here we go again"
[14:33] <DarkStar1> theadmin:  like?
[14:34] <[NA]> bitchx
[14:34] <fcduythien> thank
[14:34] <dr_willis> weechat, or irssi :) xchat, kvirc
[14:34] <Urchin> scrollz
[14:34] <theadmin> DarkStar1: I use kvirc myself. Some other well-known ones are irssi, weechat, xchat...
[14:34] <burnt> why cant brasero see my drive
[14:34] <Urchin> I'd take scrollz over bitchx any day
[14:34] <burnt> no setting in it either
[14:34] <Pepp-elito> proxx8187, it's stated in the menu of my tv as PC mode, but Monitors states it as unknown monitor, while nvidia-settings has the correct modelnr
[14:34] <theadmin> burnt: You sure it's only brasero? Do you have a device node for it?
[14:36] <burnt> theadmin, cdrecord -scanbus shows it as '	0,0,0	  0) 'Optiarc ' 'DVD RW AD-7560A ' 'DX09' Removable CD-ROM'
[14:36] <Pepp-elito> proxx8187, I'm not a resolution expert but isn't 1360x768 what was considered 720p atleast way back for TVs?
[14:36] <theadmin> burnt: Try some other tool then, like xfburn or k3b, or use cdrecord itself.
[14:37] <proxx8187> Pepp-elito; vga hdmi rgb ?
[14:37] <burnt> thanks theadmin
[14:37] <ChrisC_> Has anyone had the Wubi Installation Error problem while trying to install on a Windows 7 system?
[14:38] <burnt> nero linux any good?
[14:38] <Pepp-elito> proxx8187, I use hdmi to a crapy old viewsonic-tv
[14:38] <theadmin> burnt: Do not use >.<
[14:38] <luciano_> ola
[14:38] <proxx8187> Pepp there might be ur problem, but i gtg
[14:38] <proxx8187> good luck, bb all
[14:38] <Someus> HAlelujah!
[14:39] <Someus> Praise JEsus!
[14:39] <theadmin> Someus: wtf?
[14:39] <Someus> Jesus lives :)
[14:39] <bazhang> Someus, not here
[14:39] <Someus> ITs CHristmas!
[14:39] <proxx8187> 2pac lives
[14:39] <Someus> Yes he is here!
[14:39] <Someus> Jesus Lives!
[14:39] <burnt> hehe it that bad?
[14:39] <FloodBot1> Someus: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:39] <Someus> Jesus never said goodbye!°
[14:40] <Roberto_Souza> Hi people.
[14:40] <Someus> Jesus loves me and you!
[14:40] <burnt> why is it that bad?
[14:40] <Someus> He was born for you and me
[14:40] <usr13> Amen
[14:40] <bazhang> Someus, stop it
[14:40] <theadmin> Someus: Stop that. It's offtopic here.
[14:40] <Someus> i am so happy!
[14:41] <DJones> !offtopic | Someus
[14:41] <burnt> nero for winblows is decent
[14:41] <Someus> But Jesus is the autor of ubuntu!
[14:41] <theadmin> lolwut
[14:41] <Someus> WHy?
[14:41] <Someus> its christmas
[14:41] <bazhang> Someus, this is ubuntu support only
[14:41] <Someus> Jesus is the autor of ubuntu
[14:42] <theadmin> Now this is just ridiculous no matter how you look at it. Oh well, can some ops do something? Also... Christmas is in two days. Not now.
[14:42] <bazhang> Someus, stop it now
[14:42] <Roberto_Souza> I can not change the language of Unity because Portuguese (Brazilian) is not available despite Portuguese package to be installed.
[14:42] <usr13> Someus: Not yet.  Let's stay on topic here.
[14:42] <Someus> Doesn`t ubuntu team celebrate christmas?
[14:42] <burnt> Someus,  isnt alah the author ?
[14:42] <Someus> Why you are so mad?
[14:42] <Someus> evil?
[14:42] <burnt> hehe
[14:42] <ChrisC_> Can anyone help me with the installation of Ubuntu on a Windows 7 machine? At the end of installation using Wubi It keeps crashing on me.
[14:42] <theadmin> Thanks bazhang, that was weird.
[14:42] <insectatorious> I think Someus is playing on the keyword game where as long as the word 'ubuntu' is mentioned every few posts, he should be okay
[14:42]  * theadmin pokes usr13
[14:43] <BluesKaj> methinks the mistake/offtopic monitors should lighten up somewhat this time of year
[14:43] <burnt> well BluesKaj  he was being a bit of a festive season troll
[14:44] <oCean> Let's move on, ok
[14:44] <insectatorious> BluesKaj: oooh that's just opening a pandora's box .. lets discuss it in #defocus....otherwise we might get marked down
[14:44] <BluesKaj> ahh trolls like the season too :)
[14:45] <oCean> BluesKaj: come on, don't continue
[14:45] <BluesKaj> oCean, especially you :)
[14:45] <burnt> he posted his pic online http://media.giantbomb.com/uploads/0/8294/1645051-1231132_1122893_trollface_h_super.gif
[14:46] <rymate1234> hello
[14:46] <rymate1234> I need help!
[14:46] <insectatorious> !ask | rymate1234
[14:46] <rymate1234> does anyone know a program that allows me to make labels in ubunut?
[14:46] <insectatorious> what do you mean by 'labels'?
[14:47] <kfizz> Mailing labels? LibreOffice writer.
[14:47] <rymate1234> i need to make 3.8cm by 7cm sticky labels
[14:47] <rymate1234> its something like 21 a page
[14:47] <insectatorious> doh, should've made the connection...given the time of the year
[14:47] <Pici> rymate1234: I've heard good things about glabels
[14:47] <kfizz> rymate1234 LibreOffice. File -> New -> Labels
[14:48] <ChrisC_> Since noone knows about Wubi. What's the best bet to install ubuntu on a Win7 system? Should I create a partition first and try from Wubi? A Boot CD or USB?
[14:48] <theadmin> ChrisC_: LiveCD/LiveUSB. Wubi is always broken and never works
[14:48] <burnt> sorry people, no offence intended
[14:49] <ChrisC_> Thanks, I figured that since I haven't found many topics on it. So, I can just burn the ISO from ubuntu's site and essentially boot-up off the disk and isntall. Should I partition my drive prior to doing this?
[14:49] <insectatorious> ChrisC_: besides, I've heard about installs with wubi where encrypting the drive ends up in sad endings
[14:50] <theadmin> ChrisC_: No, the installer can handle all the partitioning
[14:50]  * rymate1234 is failing
[14:51] <ChrisC_> I've been scared to go further with the installation process as I've heard the ubuntu messes with windows 7 boot process. is this true? or is it safe to bet after the installation I'll always get to the dual boot screen?
[14:51] <rymate1234> nope
[14:51] <rymate1234> its not true
[14:51] <rymate1234> ubuntu does not break win 7
[14:51] <ChrisC_> Awesome, I can't wait to get this isntalled.
[14:51] <rymate1234> heh
[14:52] <ChrisC_> I used mandrake years ago. Once I joined the military I fell of the wagon. Now I'm back and heard Ubuntu was the way to go.
[14:52] <rymate1234> ChrisC_: ubuntu is a lot better than windows for me
[14:53] <rymate1234> mainly cuz a virus borked windows
[14:53] <insectatorious> ChrisC_: don't know if this still applies but you might want to make sure you don't have any external USB storage drives connected up when installing. It buggered up my install.
[14:53] <ChrisC_> I don't like windows very much. Unfortunantly It came with my laptop =P
[14:53] <rymate1234> d^
[14:54]  * insectatorious applauds ChrisC_ on the wisdom displayed
[14:54] <ChrisC_> Does ubuntu come with a nice GUI? I know mandrake had a gnome what basically made it like a windows userface.
[14:54] <Gentoo64> ChrisC_, it was probably kde
[14:54] <burnt> only problem I have with using ubuntu is the apps the choice of apps is much less and loved windows apps are flakey under wine, but I will get used to it
[14:55] <ChrisC_> Wow, Wine? windows Emulation? that's still around?
[14:55] <Gentoo64> ChrisC_, if you want it to look a bit like windows 7 then install kubuntu
[14:55] <burnt> yeah
[14:55] <burnt> works
[14:55] <burnt> but stuff isnt very stable
[14:56] <burnt> guess other than the defined specs that wine conforms to, the actual windows programmers have many bug work arrounds etc, that wine dosnt have
[14:56] <ChrisC_> I should do a bit more research. I noticed there is Lubuntu and Kubuntu and Ubuntu...
[14:56] <insectatorious> ChrisC_: Essentially what you're after by switching from windows is the functionality offered by the linux kernel
[14:56] <AaronDCampbell> I used to use Tweetdeck via AIR but it looks like they're phasing that out in favor of a native version Windows and Mac.  Does anyone have any suggestions for a Twitter client that handles multiple accounts well?
[14:57] <insectatorious> ChrisC_: you can choose either edition...tweak one to look and feel like another, but essentially they're all the same under the hood
[14:57] <ChrisC_> What would be the better beginner one?
[14:58] <Gentoo64> ChrisC_, there isnt lol
[14:58] <ChrisC_> Its just looks?
[14:58] <Gentoo64> if you like the look and layout of kde, choose kubuntu, etc
[14:58] <ChrisC_> understood
[14:58] <Gentoo64> its looks, and the default set of apps and how its layed out
[14:58] <insectatorious> ChrisC_: I suggest Ubuntu simply because that's what I started on. The latest version, 11.10 lets you try two radically different desktop env - Unity and Gnome Shell
[14:59] <insectatorious> ChrisC_: not that there's anything wrong with KDE I might add
[14:59] <insectatorious> don't want to start that debate
[14:59] <insectatorious> again
[14:59] <burnt> which is the most used, k
[14:59] <burnt> or gnome
[14:59] <Gentoo64> burnt, on ubuntu?
[14:59] <Gentoo64> id guess gnome as its default
[14:59] <insectatorious> this is like asking which is used most - Chrome or FireFox?
[14:59] <burnt> in general
[15:00] <Gentoo64> kde and gnome arer both popular
[15:00] <burnt> ah gnome... thought so, was reading a view saying kde 3 is disliked
[15:00] <insectatorious> they perform the same...try one - any one - and if you don't like it, try another...that's the whole point
[15:00] <ChrisC_> Should there be anything I should print out? I remember for mandrake linux I actually had to setup my internet in a rather annoying way.
[15:00] <Pici> !best | burnt
[15:00] <Gentoo64> ChrisC_, if you use dhcp itll work right away
[15:00] <ChrisC_> essentially, I'd like to get it installed and be back on this channel =D
[15:00] <Gentoo64> i think it comes with xchat, i could be wrong
[15:01] <dva5912> Im running Server 11.10 i already have apache2,php5,and mysql5 installed. I need support for MSSQL and ive googled around and found a couple of tutorials, but when i go into the PHPINFO(); i dont see it loaded. Do i need to restart apache2 again?
[15:01] <insectatorious> ChrisC_: run it from the LiveCD if you want to be super careful...that should tell you how your system will respond
[15:02] <burnt> can be a nightmare getting mysql and php to talk, probably not loaded the mysql refs in php.ini
[15:02] <burnt> or they are commented out
[15:02] <zxiest> Hey guys ... E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[15:03] <zxiest> How can know what process is locking dpkg?
[15:03] <dva5912> nvm, another apache2 restart loaded it.. strange thats the fifth time i had to restart it
[15:05] <burnt> did you have settings file opened but not saved? then on close and restart everything works?
[15:05] <Pici> !who
[15:06] <yeats> zxiest: do you have another package manager open?  synaptic, software center, update manager?
[15:07] <wangliang> uu
[15:09] <pioneer_for> bonsoir a tous ce quoi sa je soui enerver
[15:09] <Gentoo64> !fr
[15:10] <Gentoo64> !botsnack
[15:11] <pioneer_for> ubottu il mon keki sur ubuntu-fr
[15:11] <mcl0vin> howdy fellows
[15:12] <mcl0vin> i am in need for a normal tftp server to install in my ubuntu , so i did install atftp
[15:12] <zacktu> the dash button doesn't do anything -- all the other ones in the launcher work okay -- what to do?
[15:13] <mcl0vin> but everytime i try to connect to it to push a file from my cisco router it gives me error "%Error opening tftp://192.168.1.151/crashinfo_20020301-004022 (Socket error)"
[15:14] <pioneer_for> pfffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffff
[15:14] <pitlimit> I'm not a unity fan... can anyone tell me how I can change the look and feel back to classic? I'm using 11.10
[15:14] <insectatorious> pitlimit: classic?
[15:14] <pitlimit> yes
[15:14] <pitlimit> the classic ubuntu look
[15:14] <insectatorious> pitlimit: as in what you have in 10.04?
[15:14] <pitlimit> yes insectatorious
[15:14] <akem> choose "ubuntu classic" at the login screen.
[15:15] <akem> in the bottom of the screen
[15:15] <Sidewinder1> pitlimit, Why not just use 10.04? It's supported 'til 2013..
[15:15] <oCean> !nounity | pitlimit
[15:15] <insectatorious> when you login - enter you p/w you will have the option
[15:15] <pitlimit> Thanks
[15:15] <pioneer_for> uBOTu-fr met un ban sur *!*@41.107.31.66
[15:15] <pioneer_for>  Vous avez été kické de #ubuntu-fr par uBOTu-fr (1w -  - uBOTu-fr)
[15:15] <pioneer_for>  Pas encore dans un canal. Essayez /join #<canal>
[15:15] <FloodBot1> pioneer_for: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:15] <ChrisC_> OMG! thank goodness I found one blank CDRW..now let's get this ubuntu.
[15:15] <pitlimit> oCean: waht is the pint of doing all of that?
[15:16] <pitlimit> As insectatorious stated, you can choose it at login
[15:16] <[Lemmy]> is there something comparable to opensuse's SCPM in ubuntu?
[15:16] <pitlimit> thanks insectatorious
[15:17] <insectatorious> pitlimit: no worries, keep in mind that you can only change to desktop env that have been installed, so if you want the gnome-panel you will have to install it via the Software Center
[15:17] <pitlimit> oh
[15:17] <pitlimit> got it thank you
[15:17] <insectatorious> pitlimit: np
[15:18] <pioneer_for> pour quoi il veule pas maider et pour ton je trouve ubuntu le mieure et je veu aprondre a utiliser
[15:19] <pioneer_for> re
[15:19] <Sidewinder1> !fr | pioneer_for
[15:19] <pioneer_for> ccc
[15:19] <pioneer_for> *
[15:19] <bazhang> pioneer_for, english only here
[15:22] <pitlimit> sorry if i missed the point insectatorious but when I log in with classic, the drop down menus I am used to are not there.... gnome-panel IS installed
[15:22] <bazhang> pitlimit, there is no classic option in 11.10
[15:22] <pitlimit> so how do I install whatever I need to get it bazhang
[15:22] <bazhang> pitlimit, see the bot link nounity for the other near classic choice
[15:22] <insectatorious> pitlimit: the entire Gnome dektop env has been upgraded in 11.10
[15:23] <pitlimit> I know, but I prefer the other view
[15:23] <pitlimit> This is Linux. Not Windows.
[15:23] <pitlimit> I should be able to somehow install the look I want
[15:23] <bazhang> pitlimit, there is something similar but classic is gone
[15:23] <insectatorious> hahaha fair point pitlimit
[15:23] <pitlimit> People are sure sounding like MS folk ;)
[15:23] <insectatorious> yes, classic as you knew it is gone...
[15:23] <insectatorious> on the contrary
[15:23] <ChrisC_> Anyone here run ubuntu via VM?
[15:23] <usr13> pitlimit: You should consider xfce  (sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop)
[15:23] <insectatorious> we are not pointing you down a funnel pitlimit (as MS would).
[15:24] <insectatorious> instead, you have a plethora of options available
[15:24] <pitlimit> Something about Unity is very.... Vista like
[15:24] <pitlimit> bubbly, and nonintuitive
[15:24] <insectatorious> fair enough
[15:24] <bazhang> pitlimit, lets get back on topic please
[15:24] <pitlimit> i am on topic bazhang
[15:24] <insectatorious> goto the software center and install, gnaome-shell
[15:24] <pitlimit> Is this not the ubuntu room?
[15:24] <pitlimit> And has unity not become the default?
[15:24] <FloodBot1> pitlimit: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:24] <dr_willis> pitlimit:  ubuntu support room.. do you have a support question?
[15:25] <bazhang> pitlimit, not comparing it to MS no, ubuntu tech support only
[15:25] <pitlimit> Clearly you have not been reading the text
[15:25] <pitlimit> dr_willis:
[15:25] <pitlimit> ok insectatorious
[15:25] <dr_willis> pitlimit:  im in and out all day.. and on my screen.. i  dont see a actual question.
[15:25] <pitlimit> how convenient
[15:25] <Sidewinder1> pitlimit, As I stated earlier, perhaps you missed it, why not simply install 10.04, it uses the desktop that you prefer and is supported until 2013?
[15:26] <pitlimit> Sidewinder1: , I would... I just don't want to lose everything I customized
[15:26] <douglas-web-dev> unity
[15:26] <usr13> pitlimit: xfce4 can be customized so that it looks and feels just like the gnome you had in 10.04
[15:26] <pitlimit> ok usr13 with what you told me to install, right
[15:26] <Sidewinder1> pitlimit, Perhaps you could back-up your /home and go back, from there?
[15:27] <Urchin> or why not simply select gnome from the menu when you log in?
[15:27] <pitlimit> There were hardware issues Sidewinder1 and so many patches I had to apply to get everything up and running
[15:27] <r4y> Hay, it's sidewinder1
[15:27] <usr13> pitlimit: Yes, that's it.  Try xfce, you'll like it.
[15:27] <Sidewinder1> r4y, Hey!
[15:28] <Sidewinder1> pitlimit, OIC, reconfiguring can be a pain but sometimes, we can't have "it", both ways.. :-(
[15:28] <r4y> I didn't try installing the plumbing, instead we decided to go with a vanity sink, but I have had so many others things I have been doing
[15:28] <pitlimit> Sidewinder1: this is Linux
[15:28] <Sidewinder1> 'Ya think?
[15:28] <pitlimit> options is the name of the game
[15:29] <r4y> Most things take time to learn
[15:29] <sokak> yeah, and i learned a lot from linux
[15:29] <Pici> r4y: I'm not sure if you're making an analogy about Ubuntu, but just in the case you're not this might be more appropriate in private or in #ubuntu-offtopic ;)
[15:29] <r4y> I as well
[15:29]  * Sidewinder1 's Time seems to be running out..
[15:29] <r4y> It's been fun
[15:29] <CharminTheMoose> I'm using bootcd and a chrooted ubuntu 11.04 install to create a small livecd, when I run the iso image in qemu, bootcdmodprobe fails and dumps me to the busybox CLI. What am I doing wrong?
[15:30] <r4y> I can't remember why I was here, but I ended up trying to help someone with the nick fav
[15:31] <Sidewinder1> Pici, I think that r4y was speaking to pitlimit and stating that unity/linux, like many things takes some time to learn, :D
[15:31] <r4y> Dr_Willis answered fav: 	fav before asked this: rage 128 pro ati, you said thats a very old ati card isent it?
[15:31] <pitlimit> no thanks
[15:32] <pitlimit> that's the whole point of using Linux. I learn what I want :)
[15:32] <r4y> did he mean replace it?
[15:32] <pitlimit> not what Ubuntu tells me to learn :)
[15:32]  * Sidewinder1 Sighs..
[15:33] <r4y> I want to learn. I've been saving text files to gather helpfull info from the past 2 years, but it doesn't always work out, but it has helped
[15:33] <pitlimit> sigh to yourself. how un-linux-like to tell someone she must learn how to use Unity when she doesn't feel like it
[15:33] <pitlimit> :)
[15:33] <dr_willis> r4y:  ages ago . ati support in linux was well.. even worse then it  is now. :)
[15:33] <yeats> pitlimit: no one is telling you that
[15:33] <pitlimit> it's implied
[15:33] <pitlimit> inferred and deduced
[15:33] <dr_willis> r4y:  i keep snippits of answers in tomboy notes. and bookmark stuff on delicious.
[15:34] <pitlimit> whichever word you prefer
[15:34]  * dr_willis goes back to using Lubuntu
[15:34] <r4y> I remember on Myspace the linux geeks group said to use nvidia so when I order my computer I asked for a pretty decent nvidia graphics card for my bucks
[15:34] <dr_willis> r4y:  i always go/suggest the 'most bang for the buck' because  you normally dont want 'just came out this week' hardware. :)
[15:34] <r4y> bookmarks galore indeed. It goes on and on
[15:35] <dr_willis> r4y:  somthing a few months to a year old. seems to be about right.
[15:36] <r4y> My graphics card is good enough to me. I think it is pretty old but it can run tv-out through an s-video and I can run Nintendo 64 games if I want
[15:36] <Sidewinder1> pitlimit, WADR, I think you inferred, rather than anyone else implied; either way, 'tis all good. :-)
[15:36] <usr13> pitlimit:  /join #xfce
[15:36] <oCean> r4y: please use #ubuntu-offtopic for general chat
[15:37] <pitlimit> Sidewinder1: i disagree. I don't need any more suggestions from you, thanks :)
[15:37] <SlyUk> r4y n64 is all you need out of a graphics card !!
[15:38] <Sidewinder1> pitlimit, NP..
[15:38] <r4y> I can't remember how dates are in order, but it says it was from 11/21/06
[15:39] <r4y> I know I should know
[15:39] <r4y> It's not a big deal though
[15:39] <oCean> r4y: do you have an actual ubuntu support question?
[15:39] <r4y> I was going to help faz
[15:39] <r4y> I thought it was fav though
[15:40] <oCean> r4y: if you don't have a specific issue, please DON'T continue the offtopic
[15:40] <r4y> but as you have suggested, he should get a new graphics card
[15:40] <r4y> How will I know what graphics card his motherboard is compatible with?
[15:41] <oCean> r4y: the user you're referring is not online, it's useless to continue
[15:41] <usr13> r4y: Read the manual
[15:41] <bazhang> r4y, he's gone. lets take chat to the appropriate place
[15:42] <r4y> I know for instance my motherboard can take 184 pin ram
[15:42] <r4y> OK, I am sorry
[15:43] <RobNuts> what version exactly is the nvidia driver in Additional Drivers?
[15:43] <usr13> r4y: Download the manual for your Mother Board.
[15:43] <RobNuts> does version current = 290.10?
[15:43] <dr_willis> RobNuts:  i think it can depend on your video card what one it sugests
[15:43] <usr13> RobNuts: Your nvidia card is detected and the appropriate driver is loaded for it.
[15:43] <dr_willis> RobNuts:  they normally are not the latest release versions.
[15:44] <RobNuts> how good usually are the linux drivers at the official nvidia site?
[15:44] <usr13> RobNuts: lspci |grep -i vga   #See for yourself
[15:44] <RobNuts> i see they have a current driver for my card
[15:44] <BTaylor927> Does anyone know how I can set my laptop fans to stay at maximum speed constantly?
[15:44] <shiloh> can anyone point me to a forum/article on how to cfg the desktop enviornment?
[15:44] <usr13> RobNuts: Best to let the system load it for you.
[15:44] <dr_willis> RobNuts:  the ones in the repos are the same drivers, repackaged for ubuntu.
[15:45] <dr_willis> RobNuts:  i always use the ones from the repos.. it saves hassles in the long run
[15:45] <usr13> RobNuts: The package manager will download and install it for you.
[15:45] <RobNuts> doubt i'll be playing any games on linux anyhow
[15:45] <RobNuts> i was just wonderin if they were up to date with nvidia
[15:45] <dr_willis> shiloh:  depends on the details.. but check out webupd8 and ombubuntu blog sites for tweaking your desktop
[15:46] <dr_willis> omgubuntu blog site. :)
[15:46] <usr13> RobNuts: Keep wondering.
[15:46] <RobNuts> that makes sense...
[15:46] <BTaylor927> Would using fancontrol and setting the temperature at which the fans start running at full to 1 degree work?
[15:46] <Sidewinder1> BTaylor927, Not that it answers your question but, my wife's lappy was overheating and she bought an external fan that the lappy, sits on. Problem solved..
[15:46] <dr_willis> RobNuts:  if nvidia came out with one last week.. they are not going to be updated. :)  at least not  in a few days of release,
[15:47] <BTaylor927> Cheers for the advice, sidewinder1, but I'd rather just adjust my fans via the OS
[15:47] <usr13> RobNuts: ... yea, like I said, keep wondering, (it'
[15:47] <usr13> s good for the soul
[15:48] <RobNuts> alrighty then. woulda though there'd be a way to check
[15:49] <Sidewinder1> BTaylor927, The only reason I threw that "tidbit" in was no one else seemed to be answering. This channel can be very busy and sometimes folks don't see your question. :-)
[15:49] <usr13> RobNuts: But the package manager will bring you updates for all your packages as they become available, (including graphics driver, if you installed it via the package manager).
[15:50] <usr13> RobNuts: Whereas, if you download from Nvidia and install it yourself, that is not the case and you will just have to find out for yourself.
[15:50] <BTaylor927> Appreciated, sidewinder1 :)
[15:50] <CharminTheMoose> I'm using bootcd and a chrooted ubuntu 11.04 install to create a small livecd, when I run the iso image in qemu, bootcdmodprobe fails and dumps me to the busybox CLI. What am I doing wrong?
[15:50] <RobNuts> ic ic
[15:51] <RobNuts> month behind i think
[15:51] <usr13> sometimes a month behind is a good place to be
[15:52] <RobNuts> lol
[15:53] <tapia> Hi
[15:54] <tapia> I have problems configuring a kvm virtual machine
[15:54] <tapia> is here the right place to ask?
[15:57] <shiloh> does anyone have a link with information on how to customize and tweak this desktop enviornment?
[15:58] <xangua> shiloh: did you alreadu check the blogs you were told¿
[15:59] <jdavidboyd> anyone know any information (where to look) to get an Atheros wifi card working on an Acer One?  I've been trying all kinds of things, with no luck....  Haven't tried NDISWRAPPER yet, cuz I don't know how to, but that might be my only possibility.....
[15:59] <shiloh> xangua, indeed, didnt really have anything in it
[15:59] <llutz> jdavidboyd: what atheros chipset (lspci)?
[16:00] <xangua> shiloh: sounds like you either didn't search or don't know exactly what you want to 'tweak'
[16:01] <bazhang> !info gnome-tweak-tool | shiloh
[16:01] <shiloh> xanga, well they werent actual links, i googles what he typed
[16:01] <xangua> jdavidboyd: my atheros works out of the box
[16:02] <shiloh> xangua: found this, wow allot of work,,,,,,,,,
[16:02] <shiloh> http://www.webupd8.org/2011/04/things-to-tweak-fix-after-installing.html
[16:03] <llutz> jdavidboyd: my aao 531h "Ethernet controller: Atheros Communications Inc. AR5001 Wireless Network Adapter (rev 01)"     "Kernel driver in use: ath5k"
[16:03] <shiloh> is there by chance a different shell for gui instead?
[16:06] <laily> hello
[16:10] <jdavidboyd> sorry, guys, got to run.   I'll ask again later.
[16:11] <shiloh> im reading about MATE, is it possible to install mate on this?
[16:11] <bazhang> shiloh, its on a PPA? or the one from archlinux
[16:12] <shiloh> bazhang: not sure im just searching and reading, i have to have something different than the default desktop
[16:12] <shiloh> i cant really use this at all
[16:14] <auronandace> shiloh: try lxde or xfce or kde or even enlightenment
[16:14] <auronandace> shiloh: xfce is my favourite
[16:14] <shiloh> auronandace: never heard of enlightenment gui
[16:15] <Jackneill> hi
[16:15] <Jackneill> can you help me?
[16:15] <auronandace> shiloh: there is e16 and e17, e16 is the stable branch
[16:16] <auronandace> shiloh: enlightenment is meant to be light on resources and rather flashy but i find it buggy and tacky looking
[16:16] <shiloh> auronandace: well i didnt really want to hack this up and start adding dif gui's, unless i cant really customize this
[16:16] <Jackneill> my ubuntu 11.10 wont working, i got the login screen, after i try to login, but i just got a blank screen for a moment after again the login screen, before that i got an error: could not update the .iceauthority file, i tryed to fix it from recovery mode, restarted after same problem without the error
[16:16] <auronandace> shiloh: unity isn't very customisable, unless you want to break stuff
[16:16] <auronandace> shiloh: gnome3 isn't much better either
[16:16] <shiloh> auronandace: dont really need light, i have 8 gig ram
[16:17] <shiloh> yes from what im reading, its very limitd   :-(   why?
[16:17] <auronandace> shiloh: its new
[16:18] <auronandace> shiloh: unity isn't the way i'd use a computer (it tends to be better for touchscreens and netbooks)
[16:18] <shiloh> auronandace: i understand new, and am fine with new, im not fine with limited cause i need to actually use my pc
[16:19] <Sidewinder1> Jackneill, Is thsi a fresh/new install?
[16:19] <Sidewinder1> this, even
[16:19] <shiloh> its oks i have some days off, if i have to try another distro i can :-)
[16:19] <Jackneill> sidewinder1: no, i was updated from 11.04
[16:19] <auronandace> shiloh: i like to use my pc too, which is why i don't use unity
[16:19] <Jackneill> and the i got the problem an auto update with update-manager
[16:19] <shiloh> lol auronandace
[16:19] <Jackneill> after an auto update
[16:20] <shiloh> understood, tyvm actually :-)
[16:20] <Sidewinder1> Jackneill, OK, then my tentative answer would not be relevant, sorry.. :-(
[16:20] <Jackneill> :(
[16:20] <Jackneill> anyway thanks
[16:20] <auronandace> shiloh: i highly recomend xfce, thats rather customisable and gtk based
[16:20] <Sidewinder1> Jackneill, I wish I could've been of more help..
[16:21] <Jackneill> :)
[16:21] <shiloh> ill check it out, ty auronandace, yeah as with anything new, gotta work the bugs out, im used to it im an EE
[16:23] <Jackneill> my ubuntu 11.10 wont working, i got the login screen, after i try to login, but i just got a blank screen for a moment after again the login screen, before that i got an error: could not update the .iceauthority file, i tryed to fix it from recovery mode, restarted after same problem without the error
[16:25] <zxiest> Hey guys ... E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/). How can I know which process is locking it?
[16:26] <auronandace> !fixapt | zxiest
[16:26] <insectatorious> Jackneill: not sure about the authority for the .iceauthority file, but when you're at the login screen you can press Ctrl+Alt+F1 to open a terminal
[16:26] <Pici> zxiest: ps aux | egrep "(apt|dpkg)"   -- its also possible that nothing is locking it and apt crashed.
[16:26] <markuss> can anyone tell is here a way to stop items form duplicating in menus
[16:27] <Jackneill> insectatorius: yes i did, i tryed startx but wont work
[16:27] <Jackneill> didnt work*
[16:27] <markuss> im using lucid
[16:27] <markuss> when i create a menu it pops up some where else
[16:27] <insectatorious> Jackneill: did you make any changes to the system that prompted this message?
[16:27] <Jackneill> not
[16:27] <yeats> markuss: System -> Preferences -> Main Menu (I think) will let you edit the menu
[16:27] <Jackneill> insectatorious:
[16:28] <Jackneill> just started the linux the suddenly i got this
[16:28] <zxiest> Pici I have a long list after issuing your command
[16:28] <Jackneill> i just did what i've everyday did
[16:28] <Pici> zxiest: You typed this exactly?  ps aux | egrep "(apt|dpkg)"
[16:29] <zxiest> yes
[16:29] <Pici> zxiest: Can you pastebin the results?
[16:29] <zxiest> Pici sure.. 1 sec
[16:29] <insectatorious> Jackneill: not sure what to say....this is taking me into deep waters, maybe someone like ServerSage can help
[16:29] <zacktu> in oneiric how can i prevent firefox, thunderbird, and some other apps from opening maximized (this happened also w/ natty)
[16:30] <Jackneill> insectatorious : thanks:/
[16:30] <zxiest> Pici http://pastebin.com/dezXpp3L
[16:30] <markuss> ?? yeats I know how to create menus and remove them what im saying is when i create a menu or item in a menu it duplicates and i can see it in another menu is there a way to stop this with having to un tick the box as ive a lot of menus
[16:31] <markuss> and if ive to do this its will takes ages and with get confusing as ill lose track of  what menus are where and so on
[16:31] <Jackneill> my ubuntu 11.10 wont working, i got the login screen, after i try to login, but i just got a blank screen for a moment after again the login screen, before that i got an error: could not update the .iceauthority file, i tryed to fix it from recovery mode, restarted after same problem without the error
[16:31] <Pici> zxiest: Ah, looks like dpkg is running in the background.  Do you have another terminal open that is running something?
[16:31] <yeats> markuss: I've not seen that happen, so not sure what to advise
[16:31] <zxiest> Pici the other terminal running has "top" running
[16:31] <markuss> thanks anyway yeats
[16:32] <zxiest> Pici just closed it and got the same results
[16:32] <themaster> yeeaaa boi
[16:32] <themaster> !lazor meeee
[16:32] <markuss> its so bloody  frustrating
[16:32] <bazhang> themaster, ?
[16:32] <Pici> zxiest: Odd, it says its been running since december 11th.  Well. I guess you could kill the process and then run the fixapt instructions above.
[16:32] <themaster> oh nothing
[16:32] <zxiest> Pici It's a server I have in the cloud. I think I updated to ubuntu 11.10 that day
[16:33] <Pici> zxiest: Are you sure it finished upgrading?  it says it is running in pts/2
[16:33] <zxiest> Pici not sure it finished updating. Shouldn't be finished by now?
[16:34] <Pici> zxiest: It could be looking for your input
[16:35] <zxiest> Pici hold on... I saw a msg from it when I booted .. 1 sec
[16:36] <zxiest> At the moment, only the core of the system is installed. To tune the system to your needs, you can choose to install one or more predefined collections of software by running the following command:
[16:36] <zxiest> sudo tasksel --section server
[16:36] <Jackneill> my ubuntu 11.10 wont working, i got the login screen, after i try to login, but i just got a blank screen for a moment after again the login screen, before that i got an error: could not update the .iceauthority file, i tryed to fix it from recovery mode, restarted after same problem without the error
[16:40] <cloudgeek> apt-get supercower power link pplz
[16:43] <yakers> i want to edit my gnome theme after the upgrade to 11.10, I used to be able to edit and choose specific colors of the window decorator and more, now I am forced to choose a theme and accept everything about that, what happened?
[16:43] <osse> Hi guys. How can I make gnome-terminal show me the size of the window when I resize it? I think that was the default behaviour before but it isn't now.
[16:44] <geoffmcc> Jackneill: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=8772854  -- post #8
[16:44] <Pici> osse: Its a compiz option. You'll need to install compizconfig-settings-manager and modify one of the options.
[16:44] <shiloh> auronandace: thank you for the help, im thinking its time for me to leave ubuntu and move on, i cant use this
[16:46] <RobNuts> have to install 30 things for samba. this is fun
[16:48] <zxiest> Pici and auronandace thanks... working now :-)
[16:48] <usr13> RobNuts: 30 things?
[16:48] <RobNuts> might be exaggerating a little
[16:48] <osse> Pici, thanks. It is strange though: At work I use RedHAt5 (as little as possible :P) with Gnome 2.16 and that shows me the size. But I'll see if I can find it in Compiz
[16:48] <RobNuts> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[16:49] <RobNuts> Errors were encountered while processing:
[16:49] <RobNuts>  samba4
[16:49] <osse> Pici, found it! :) Thanks again
[16:49] <RobNuts> i wasn't even installing samba4
[16:49] <auronandace> !xubuntu | shiloh
[16:49] <Pici> osse: sure, np
[16:49] <RobNuts> i was installing nautlius
[16:49] <RobNuts> everything i install with aptget i get a that samba4 error. a bunch from samba4 actually
[16:50] <shiloh> auronandace: no im going to stay with gnome, i like gnome, i just cant use this GUI like this, i cant use a limited desktop. im dl'ing debian
[16:50] <yeats> RobNuts: can you pastebin the full output of the error?
[16:51] <auronandace> shiloh: by gnome do you mean gnome2?
[16:51] <RobNuts> not sure if i was supposed to even install samba4
[16:51] <RobNuts> i just want to share a folder lol
[16:51] <shiloh> auronandace: no debian testing is gnome 3
[16:51] <yeats> RobNuts: one thing at a time - you'll need to fix dpkg/APT before doing anything else
[16:51] <auronandace> shiloh: oh, i find gnome3 just as unusable as unity ::)
[16:52] <RobNuts> sec
[16:52] <whoever> hi all i am trying to convert wma to mp3 with sound counverter, and , when I add the wma files i get a prompt from ubuntu to search for plugin but to windows media decocder founder. can someone help
[16:52] <geoffmcc> RobNuts: what version of Ubuntu, as i have not installed samba, but i can share a folder by right clicking and going to share options
[16:53] <RobNuts> http://pastebin.com/RziRKcE4
[16:53] <usr13> shiloh: Did you like gnome2?
[16:53] <shiloh> hopefully in the future, there will be some patches or fixes to make it a mroe friendly GUI with at least some options, imho look slike it was introduced in beta form
[16:53] <RobNuts> maybe i should head over to #xubuntu
[16:53] <schnuffle> whoever:  have you installed w32codecs?
[16:53] <shiloh> usr13, indeed,
[16:54] <geoffmcc> RobNuts: see http://www.falatic.com/index.php/29/problems-with-samba4-when-updating-from-ubuntu-10-10-to-11-04
[16:54] <usr13> shiloh: xfce can be customized to look and feel like gnome2
[16:54] <RobNuts> fun
[16:54] <geoffmcc> RobNuts: assuming your on 11.10 if your getting samba4
[16:54] <RobNuts> i'm on the latest version of Xubuntu. fresh install
[16:54] <usr13> shiloh: sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop  and  /join #xfce
[16:54] <whoever> schnuffle: i tried searching for it but noting came up
[16:54] <yeats> RobNuts: try this: 'sudo mv /etc/samba/smb.conf /etc/samba/smb.conf.orig' then try the command again
[16:55] <shiloh> usr13: im reading on xfce as we speak :-)
[16:56] <RobNuts> i need a smoke before i smash my computer
[16:56] <gianni> irc://irc.karma-irc.net/nerve
[16:57] <shiloh> usr13: my confort is in gnome, i know switching DE's can be tricky, for instance, in KDE im lost, lol
[16:57] <RobNuts> i purged it
[16:57] <whoever> schnuffle: any other ideas
[16:57] <gianni> xdcc://karma-Irc/irc.karma-Irc.net/#nerve/P|nRV|V|Priscilla/#0014/Ashampoo.Burning.Studio.Elements.v10.0.4-TE.rar/
[16:57] <SlyUk> lol
[16:57] <TiMiDo> yeah
[16:57] <TiMiDo> big lol
[16:57] <TiMiDo> ;{P
[16:58] <iv4nBR_> Where is the /etc/inittab or / etc/event.d (Upstart)? Xubuntu 10.10
[16:58] <TiMiDo> iv4nBR_ with services
[16:58] <TiMiDo> ;)
[16:58] <TiMiDo> as root
[16:58] <yeats> RobNuts: that may work, of course, but please note that your issue is different than what was described in that blog post
[16:58] <auronandace> shiloh: kde also uses qt rather than gtkm but xfce uses gtk just like gnome
[16:59] <yeats> RobNuts: the key line in the output you pastebinned is "Please remove the smb.conf file and let provision generate it"
[16:59] <yeats> RobNuts: which is what the command I suggested takes care of
[16:59] <iv4nBR_> I could not configure the setfont, so I'll try to set the getty.
[16:59] <RobNuts> it didn't
[16:59] <yeats> RobNuts: eh?
[17:00] <RobNuts> well it got rid of the config errors but still had dpkg error
[17:00] <yeats> RobNuts: can you paste the new output?
[17:00] <yeats> s/paste/pastebin/
[17:01] <iv4nBR_> TiMiDo, services ?!?
[17:01] <edbian> services
[17:01] <RobNuts> i started over with sudo apt-get install samba instead of "samba4" and no errors yet
[17:03] <RobNuts> shouldn't samba be in the the Software Center?
[17:03] <compdoc> should
[17:03] <yeats> !info samba
[17:03] <auronandace> !find samba | RobNuts
[17:03] <edbian> Not every package is in the software center.  The software center gui thing is for collections of packages
[17:03] <compdoc> you may have to click the 'show technical items'
[17:04] <compdoc> often, software is hidden by that
[17:05] <RobNuts> are you talking software center or synaptic?
[17:05] <RobNuts> cuz i said software center
[17:05] <compdoc> me? Ive never used synaptic
[17:05] <edbian> nobody is talking about synaptic right now
[17:05] <edbian> but we are talking about talking about synaptic....
[17:05] <edbian> meta...
[17:06] <RobNuts> i was
[17:06] <RobNuts> oh that was ubottu
[17:06] <TiMiDo> lol
[17:06] <compdoc> samba, and the gui managment app show in mine
[17:07] <RobNuts> do i need samba4?
[17:07] <RobNuts> bah
[17:07] <ChrisC__> Yippey! I have ubuntu running on a VM.
[17:08] <RobNuts> installing the gui
[17:08] <TiMiDo> congratulations Chris_0076
[17:08] <TiMiDo> !samba
[17:09] <RobNuts> i spent like 5 hours with us on mint last night
[17:09] <RobNuts> *with this
[17:09] <TiMiDo> lol
[17:10] <RobNuts> if that's the same gui i found in mint is doesn't work
[17:10] <yeats> RobNuts: wait - are you using mint or ubuntu?
[17:10] <TiMiDo> ubuntu
[17:10] <TiMiDo> he said
[17:10] <devish> is ipv6 enable in ubuntu by default?
[17:10] <yeats> TiMiDo: okay ;-)
[17:10] <TiMiDo> last night he was using mint for about 5 hours
[17:10] <TiMiDo> no devish install miredo
[17:10] <edbian> devish, yes, but it probably isn't on your router or ISP
[17:10] <edbian> oops
[17:10] <edbian> I mean
[17:10] <edbian> install that
[17:11] <TiMiDo> :)
[17:11] <edbian> RobNuts, What are you trying to do?
[17:11] <TiMiDo> damn xmas this year sucked. no gift ;(
[17:12] <jutnux> It's not Christmas yet is it? :-P
[17:12] <TiMiDo> no but tomorrow i'll be
[17:12] <RobNuts> edbian: install samba and share a folder
[17:12] <TiMiDo> ;P
[17:12] <jutnux> And anyway, keep ontopic please :-)
[17:12] <RobNuts> would rather also install nautilus or whatever it is so i can right click and share
[17:12] <TiMiDo> LoL
[17:12] <devish> my web connection suddenly lost/became slow  and i don't know the reason
[17:12] <edbian> RobNuts, to a windows xp machine I presume.  Did you install samba on ubuntu?
[17:12] <TiMiDo> devish check the network
[17:12] <RobNuts> to mah wii
[17:12] <devish> mostly of type https
[17:12] <devish> network is fine
[17:13] <TiMiDo> devish are you doing an dist-upgrade?
[17:13] <RobNuts> edbian: sharing to my wii. got it working with mint last night. switched to xubuntu today
[17:13] <devish> did already
[17:13] <TiMiDo> oh okey
[17:13] <edbian> RobNuts, ummm why did you switch once you had it working?
[17:14] <RobNuts> edbian: cuz Mint sucked
[17:14] <edbian> hahaha
[17:14] <edbian> ok
[17:14] <RobNuts> mint = Linux Mint 12
[17:14] <edbian> RobNuts, well in most aspects mint and ubuntu are identical.  Do everything you did on mint and ask me when you get stuck with something.
[17:14] <edbian> RobNuts, are you following some tutorial?
[17:15] <RobNuts> mint came with nautilus, samba, and the right click sharing by default
[17:15] <RobNuts> xubuntu did not
[17:15] <edbian> RobinJ,ahhh, that makes things harder!  (I think regular ubuntu does) but we can do things by command line if that's ok
[17:16] <RobNuts> that didn't look good
[17:16] <n0xie> Q: when upgrading to 11.10 the (compiz) grid seems to have some weird behaviour: when pressing ctrl+alt left or right, I can only snap it to half screen, not 1/4 or 3/4 anymore
[17:16] <devish> wtf! mozilla lost it chromium is working fine
[17:16] <n0xie> anyone know if i can fix this ?
[17:16] <Doodie> hi, it seems like my windows os bootable partition is not detected in grub. there is an option in Disk Utility called Bootable. What does that do actually?
[17:16] <devish> mozilla is having trouble with https
[17:17] <geoffmcc> devish: what version of ubuntu
[17:17] <devish> geoffmcc: 11.10
[17:17] <RobNuts> i'm going to reinstall nautilus first
[17:18] <RobNuts> i ran typed nautilus in terminal and this is what i got :  http://pastebin.com/h6whuev1
[17:18] <geoffmcc> devish: im not having any problems with mine. this documents earlier version of ubuntu, but maybe worth taking a look at http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-fix-firefox-slow-problem-in-ubuntu-10-04lucid.html
[17:18] <usr13> RobNuts: What didn't sound good? ... doing things via command line? ...  You will [probably] some day realize that doing things from command line can be quicker and easier.
[17:18] <TiMiDo> RobNuts is your x running?
[17:18] <RobNuts> i said "look"
[17:19] <RobNuts> what is my x?
[17:19] <RobNuts> lol
[17:19] <edbian> RobNuts, I can almost guarantee CLI is the way to go with this.  Then you learn how to do it regardless of what gui and on multiple different distros
[17:19] <TiMiDo> graphical interface i meant RobNuts
[17:19] <MSWunRGkb> hey can you hear me now?
[17:19] <MSWunRGkb> woo!
[17:19] <RobNuts> yeep
[17:19] <edbian> That's a lot of errors
[17:19] <MSWunRGkb> building an IRC client into LOIQ
[17:19] <edbian> TiMiDo, he's running xubuntu
[17:19] <MSWunRGkb> Teehee
[17:20] <usr13> RobNuts: What is wrong with thunar?
[17:20] <RobNuts> i do not see an option to share a folder when right clicking it
[17:20] <edbian> usr13, He's trying to get samba running to share stuff with his wii
[17:20] <Aldus> hello, i have the kernel version 3.0.0-14-generic . I have some wireless problem with my Centrino N-100 card on the new laptop. How can I upgrade the kernel to the latest version?
[17:21] <usr13> edbian: I know.  But he said that he wanted to install nautilus
[17:21] <TiMiDo> Aldus if you upgrade your kernel to the latest you'll break your system
[17:21] <edbian> usr13, Yeah he wants that handy right click -> share this folder  thing that nautilus provides
[17:21] <usr13> edbian: Anyway, never mind.  I'll stay out of it.
[17:21] <elspru> hey, is there a way people could register for a local account via web?
[17:21] <RobNuts> nautilus was cuz i was reading http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1860993
[17:21] <kyubutsu> Aldus: 3.0.0.14-generic is the latest
[17:21] <edbian> usr13, that's ok :)
[17:21] <janisozaur> is it possible to setup per-user, persistent ld library path? I don't want other to make my libs visible 'globally' by adding them to /etc/ld.so.conf.d/ and I don't want to specify LD_LIBRARY_PATH=... prior to every compilation
[17:22] <TiMiDo> Aldus just build the modules with m-a
[17:22] <edbian> He's not really listening to me
[17:22] <Aldus> well cool. So should I trash this computer or what :(
[17:22] <RobNuts> you said CLI?
[17:22] <TiMiDo> Aldus not really you can maybe brake some dependencies
[17:22] <Aldus> the same problem was under Linux Mint
[17:22] <TiMiDo> that's about it
[17:22] <yeats> !mainline | Aldus
[17:22] <edbian> RobNuts, command line interface = CLU
[17:22] <edbian> CLI*
[17:22] <RobNuts> i see
[17:22] <edbian> RobNuts, do you wanna do things my way?
[17:23] <MSWunRGkb> oh i thought you meant common language infrastructure.. hmm.. one sounds more handy than the other
[17:23] <RobNuts> sure
[17:23] <Aldus> TiMiDo, which modules?
[17:23] <kyubutsu> Aldus: check your network administrator, the problem might be routing issue
[17:23] <edbian> RobNuts, I'm following this guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Samba/SambaServerGuide
[17:23] <TiMiDo> your wireless drivers Aldus
[17:23] <TiMiDo> you can compile the modules with m-a
[17:23] <edbian> RobinJ, gksudo gedit /etc/samba/smb.conf
[17:24] <geoffmcc> Aldus: what have you done to try and get it working
[17:24] <TiMiDo> Aldus type this as sudo sudo ifconfig wlan0 up
[17:24] <TiMiDo> do you get any error messages?
[17:24] <RobNuts> edbian, me or RobinJ?
[17:24] <edbian> oops
[17:24] <edbian> RobNuts, gksudo gedit /etc/samba/smb.conf
[17:25] <edbian> typo :P
[17:25] <edbian> RobinJ, You probably wanna ignore the next few things I say
[17:25] <Aldus> geoffmcc, I tried many things, nothing worked, then i reinstalled ubuntu from scratch
[17:25] <TiMiDo> lol
[17:25] <RobNuts> ok
[17:25] <TiMiDo> alright I'm no longer helping. this guy
[17:25] <geoffmcc> Aldus: what kind of pc?
[17:25] <edbian> RobinJ, go to the [homes] section and look at the guide I linked
[17:25] <edbian> darnit!
[17:25] <RobNuts> lol
[17:26] <edbian> RobNuts, go to the [homes] section and look at the guide I linked.  It explains to change it to browsable = yes and read-only = no
[17:26] <geoffmcc> Aldus: is it an acer
[17:26] <RobNuts> edbian. do not have a homes section. guess i need to create it
[17:26] <n0xie> damnit my issue seems to be a known bug in 11.10
[17:26] <n0xie> :(
[17:26] <edbian> RobNuts, you should...  Is the file empty?
[17:27] <RobNuts> edbian: this is what mine looks like http://pastebin.com/y9L80J8Y
[17:27] <edbian> looking
[17:27] <RobNuts> only 3 small sections
[17:28] <edbian> That's the entire file?
[17:28] <aldus_> sorry of course internet crashed again
[17:28] <aldus_> TiMiDo, ran your command - no output
[17:28] <aldus_> geoffmcc, Asus X53S
[17:28] <aldus_> kyubutsu, it's an home wlan
[17:28] <aldus_> and it works great on all other devices, windows, and the old ubuntu on the old lenovo
[17:28] <Roger_Montejo> I can not install a network printer in ubuntu 11.10
[17:28] <RobNuts> yep. i have a smb.conf.orig that is a lot bigger
[17:28] <TiMiDo> Aldus paste dmesg
[17:28] <RobNuts> looks like the default sample conf
[17:29] <TiMiDo> to paste.ubuntu.com
[17:29] <Roger_Montejo> someone else with this problem?
[17:29] <kyubutsu> Aldus: check if it connects under other operating system (or an ealier version of ubuntu); might help you troubleshoot the issue
[17:29] <edbian> RobNuts, that's the entire file?  Have you ever edited it?
[17:30] <yAfroCPcb> yee haw
[17:30] <RobNuts> edbian: this is what smb.conf.orig looks like http://pastebin.com/FiyU5Wr0
[17:30] <geoffmcc> aldus_: i about to step out and i pm u instrctions, now i see your name changed
[17:30] <RobNuts> edbian: no i haven't. i did run that samba gui app i installed from the software center
[17:31] <aldus_> TiMiDo, http://paste.ubuntu.com/780042/
[17:31] <aldus_> geoffmcc, i was disconnected, as internet crashed, sorry
[17:31] <edbian> RobNuts, that gui must have moved this stuff around.  run this to move the files around back to normal.  sudo mv /etc/samba/smb.conf /etc/samba/smb.gui.conf
[17:31] <edbian> RobNuts, That renames the file the gui wrote
[17:31] <aldus_> kyubutsu, on ubuntu 10 the wireless doesn't even work at all, maybe centrino n100 is not supported there
[17:32] <edbian> RobNuts, sudo mv /etc/samba/smb.conf.orig /etc/samba/smb.conf
[17:32] <RobNuts> edbian: ok
[17:32] <kyubutsu> aldus_: i would definitely check the router as well before making too many changes ...
[17:32] <edbian> RobNuts, you did both of those?
[17:32] <RobNuts> edbian: yes
[17:32] <edbian> RobNuts, now close gedit (if you didn't already) and don't save anything
[17:33] <aldus_> kyubutsu, I don't know, it works well with all other devices... phone, ipad, windows systems and even the television
[17:33] <geoffmcc> aldus_: its ok, i pm them u to new name as i am steping out for a few. hope helps
[17:33] <edbian> RobNuts, and open the correct file under the correct name gksudo gedit /etc/samba/smb.conf
[17:33] <RobNuts> edbian, ok
[17:33] <edbian> RobNuts, You should now have the much longer file with lots of comments
[17:34] <RobNuts> edbian, yeah
[17:34] <edbian> RobNuts, In this link: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Samba/SambaServerGuide   the section 'Samba Server Configuration in terminal' explains how to edit the config file (you have to scroll down a little bit)
[17:35] <edbian> RobNuts, basically in the [homes] section we change browseable = yes and read only = no
[17:35] <edbian> RobNuts, see those things?  Have you made those changes?
[17:37] <edbian> RobNuts, I'm not sure about the user, which is the next section.  I'm not sure if it needs to be an ubuntu user name or the wii username of if it needs to be the wii username with an ubuntu account of the same name
[17:37] <edbian> Anybody else know?
[17:38] <jutnux> What's the problem ed1703 ?
[17:38] <jutnux> Woops, false ping.
[17:38] <RobNuts> sudo: /etc/init.d/samba: command not found
[17:38] <edbian> RobNuts, sudo service smb start  (replaced that command)
[17:38] <compdoc> its smb
[17:39] <edbian> jutnux, when setting up a samba server via cli do I specify a user that is on the ubuntu samba server or the name of the user on the client?
[17:39] <Roger_Montejo> I can not install a network printer in ubuntu 11.10
[17:39] <Roger_Montejo> someone else with this problem?
[17:39] <soee>  is it possible to easy install thunderbird 9 in 11.10 ?
[17:39] <edbian> RobNuts, did you save the file and set the user and all that?
[17:40] <jutnux> edbian: Try both.
[17:40] <RobNuts> yes
[17:40] <edbian> jutnux, ha, well duh
[17:40] <RobNuts> edbian, do i follow to the bottom of the guide?
[17:40] <edbian> RobNuts, Lemme look
[17:40] <miccoli> how can i open ubuntu software central in a terminal?
[17:40] <edbian> RobNuts, stop at file sharing advanced  (don't do that part)
[17:40] <RobNuts> edbian, ok
[17:40] <miccoli> thank
[17:40] <miccoli> s
[17:40] <devish> so ipv6 is disabled by default in ubuntu 11.10?
[17:41] <Roger_Montejo> FirewallD no está en ejecución. La detección de impresoras de red necesita que los servicios  mdns, ipp, ipp-client y samba-client estén activados en el cortafuegos.
[17:42] <aldus_> TiMiDo, http://paste.ubuntu.com/780042/ <- this is the output from dmesg
[17:42] <edbian> RobNuts, test it, does it work?
[17:42] <eutheria> i have a weird problem with running minecraft, it is clearly driver related, i updated to intel 2.17 from a ppa and it reduced the problem, but not gone totally
[17:42] <RobNuts> test what?
[17:42] <edbian> RobNuts, .... get on the wii, see if you can view the files
[17:43] <edbian> RobNuts, That is the goal here right?
[17:43] <RobNuts> edbian, i doubt it since i haven't shared a folder yet
[17:43] <edbian> RobNuts, did you edit the configuration file /etc/samba/smb.conf and save it and restart samba?
[17:43] <edbian> RobNuts, then we did!
[17:44] <RobNuts> ...
[17:44] <edbian> RobNuts, ... ?
[17:44] <RobNuts> i have to share a folder
[17:44] <RobNuts> unless that made it share all drives and folders on m pc
[17:45] <RobNuts> lol
[17:45] <edbian> RobNuts, that little section of the config shares the home folders
[17:45] <RobNuts> i c
[17:45] <edbian> RobNuts, let's see if that works
[17:46] <RobNuts> i will go look. but why can't i right click and share?
[17:47] <edbian> RobNuts, right click and share does this conf file editing behind the scenes.  Short answer: thunar doesn't support that feature.  You could install nautilus and do it (probably)
[17:47] <edbian> RobNuts, but this way if more reliable and we can try different thing when it doesn't work.  Can't do that in the gui
[17:48] <edbian> RobNuts, If you read that entire article that I pasted in the link you can see that there is a tonne of stuff you can configure
[17:50] <RobNuts> edbian, i didn't get on the wii. but i did get on a win xp pc and i could see my linux pc and the "home" folder
[17:51] <RobNuts> tho it would not let me browse it. said didn't have permission or somethin
[17:51] <edbian> RobNuts, so it's working?  Read the whole article to set it how you want
[17:51] <edbian> RobNuts, Yeah, that's the user part.  I'm not sure about that.  Try different usernames
[17:51] <edbian> I have to go now!
[17:51] <RobNuts> edbian, which is no biggie. i don't think. on the wii it lets me put a username and password so i can probly put the smb user/pw that i created with that guide
[17:52] <RobNuts> i will use ushare upnp for the xp machine and my xbox
[17:52] <RobNuts> then to install sabnzbd and sickbeard and migrate my sb database from win 7 to this
[17:54] <romulo> /j #eu
[17:54] <romulo> /join #eu
[17:54] <romulo> \join #eu
[17:54] <FloodBot1> romulo: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:54] <Clayman1000x> wna3100, need some help
[17:55] <TiMiDo> lol
[17:55] <TiMiDo> we all need help
[17:55] <TiMiDo> some how
[17:55] <Clayman1000x> true enough
[17:57] <Clayman1000x> can anyone tell me wether ndiswrapper is the same as "windows wireless driver program"
[17:58] <TiMiDo> !ndiswrapper
[17:58] <TiMiDo> it only support a few drivers from windows
[17:58] <TiMiDo> that's it
[17:59] <Clayman1000x> broadcom is supposed to be one of them
[17:59] <Clayman1000x> I can't get ndiswrapper to install, says it can't find it
[17:59] <xangua> !broadcom | Clayman1000x tried already¿
[17:59] <TiMiDo> just get the bcm drivers
[17:59] <TiMiDo> and you are good
[17:59] <Clayman1000x> I went there now, thanks
[18:01] <uxe_> Hi
[18:01] <RobNuts> nautilus seemed better
[18:10] <studentz> hi there:  Using recent app in unity open the folder but not the document.  Any idea? thanks
[18:10] <troll_> hi get some sort of error when i log in "ICE authority cannot be updated / directory .."
[18:10] <troll_> any ideas?
[18:12] <troll_> hi get some sort of error when i log in "ICE authority cannot be updated / directory .."
[18:12] <troll_> any ideas?
[18:13] <ssta> is that the exact error?
[18:14] <troll_> cannot update authority
[18:14] <troll_> then i get my name with home dir
[18:15] <SunTsu> troll_: what does ls -l ~/.Xauthority show you as owner and permissions?
[18:16] <troll_> dont understand
[18:16] <studentrob> anyone know anything about SPF records for getting email to be authenticated properly?
[18:17] <ssta> at a command prompt, type: "ls -l ~/.Xauthority" and tell us what it says
[18:17] <troll_> i started getting this error yesterday
[18:17] <SunTsu> studentrob: google knows, a lot
[18:17] <troll_> ok
[18:17] <troll_> cannot access, no such file or directory
[18:17] <studentrob> SunTsu: No doubt.  Have searched and haven't turned up the right result yet
[18:18] <ssta> troll_: ls -ld ~
[18:18] <rabidmachine9> I'm trying to install ruby 1.9.2 and I get an error http://pastebin.com/eHrTfvCi
[18:19] <troll_> drwxr-xr-x 41 ion ion 4096 2011-12-23 18:03 /home/ion
[18:19] <troll_> thats the response
[18:19] <ssta> troll_: okay, and "ion" is your username?
[18:19] <troll_> yees
[18:20] <ssta> yet somehow, you don't have permission to create an Xauthority...and none exists currently.
[18:20] <ssta> Sorry, I have no idea what could cause that
[18:20] <troll_> thanks anyway
[18:20] <ssta> what happens if you try: "touch ~/.Xauthority"
[18:21] <ssta> does it give an error?
[18:21] <troll_> yees
[18:21] <troll_> when i log in
[18:21] <trism> rabidmachine9: can you pastebin /etc/default/grub? seems there may be some invalid lines there
[18:22] <rabidmachine9> ok I look into it
[18:22] <troll_> :P
[18:37] <dr_willis>  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lightdm/+bug/871667
[18:37] <rabidmachine9> trism: seems like some windows lines for windows were causing the problem
[18:38] <rabidmachine9> thanks
[18:38] <trism> rabidmachine9: all fixed now?
[18:38] <rabidmachine9> I think yes
[18:38] <krisss117> hi, exist something like s/a+/a/g in sed ??
[18:38] <rabidmachine9> ruby got installed
[18:38] <krisss117> i need reduct all aaaaaaa to one a
[18:39] <trism> rabidmachine9: excellent
[18:39] <krisss117> have u any idea ?
[18:41] <trism> krisss117: sed 's/a\+/a/g' file.txt
[18:41] <Pici> krisss117: sed "s/a\+/a/g"
[18:41] <perdo> rthd
[18:41] <dr_willis> http://sed.sourceforge.net/sed1line.txt
[18:41] <mbenson99> I decrypted my home folder but forgot to decrypt the filenames. Can anyone tell me how to decrypt them please?
[18:41] <krisss117> thankssss
[18:42] <enrichedd> what language are most open source ubuntu programs written in?
[18:42] <enrichedd> or does it vary
[18:42] <sina2> Hi,
[18:42] <sina2> Today I encounter with a new problem in ubuntu. once which i used windows I have lots of srt( subtitle) files in Farsi language, but when I want to open them in ubuntu the sentences looks crazy and unreadable. I think it can't detect the fonts of srt files. what do u suggest I do? It's good to mention I don't know the font of srt files I just know that they are Farsi.
[18:46] <mcbaine1> oh dear !
[18:46] <usr13> enrichedd: It varies.
[18:46] <usr13> enrichedd: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux
[18:46] <mbenson99> I decrypted my home folder but forgot to decrypt the filenames. Can anyone tell me how to decrypt them please?
[18:46] <enrichedd> k
[18:47] <geoffmcc> sina2: first thing that comes to my mind maybe try installing microsoftfonts package
[18:48] <sweb> is there any solution for bind file creator ?
[18:52] <mang0> Does anybody have experiance with ffscreencast recorder? I can't get it to work...
[18:54] <multipass> whats the ubuntu netbook edition?
[18:54] <multipass> is there any overview
[18:54] <Pici> multipass: There is no netbook edition anymore.
[18:54] <multipass> ah ok
[18:57] <ubuntu> hi
[19:00] <ifckdontcare> What distro is this? http://www.gnome.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/media.png
[19:01] <Tech-1> who knows
[19:01] <krisss117> \join #ubuntu.pl
[19:01] <llutz> ifckdontcare: who cares, pick the distro you want, customize it as you like
[19:01] <soreau> ifckdontcare: The desktop environment is gnome3. It can run on any distro
[19:01] <ifckdontcare> soreau: I got that already.
[19:02] <ifckdontcare> soreau: What the fuck's the theme then?
[19:02] <soreau> ! language | ifckdontcare
[19:02] <Tech-1> and the nic
[19:02] <ifckdontcare> Tech-1: It's appropriate somewhat.
[19:02] <pangolin> no it isn't
[19:02] <pangolin> Please do not swear
[19:03] <ifckdontcare> pangolin: Fine -_-
[19:03] <krisss117> hi i need do something :/ using SED change aaa to aa but change aaaa to aa and aa to aa and aaaaaa to aa
[19:03] <pangolin> thank you.
[19:03] <krisss117> have u any idea ?
[19:03] <ifckdontcare> Just tell me what the theme is.
[19:03] <dr_willis> krisss117:  do another sed pass.. changeing aa to a ?
[19:03] <Tech-1> it looks like a standard theme w/gnome3
[19:04] <ifckdontcare> Tech-1: I like the dark look and feel.
[19:04] <ifckdontcare> Tech-1: Rather than the classic boring white.
[19:04] <Tech-1> its prolly in the theme section of the distro
[19:04]  * dr_willis wants a Hot Pink and Puce theme.
[19:04] <Tech-1> lol
[19:04] <krisss117> dr_willis: if i use change aa to a then for aaa i have only a
[19:05] <krisss117> for aaa i ned aa
[19:05] <dannel> krisss117, aaaaaah?
[19:05] <dr_willis> krisss117:  im not clear on what pattern you wanted.. but seems you may need to read up on regular expressions.
[19:06] <krisss117> i have sed 's/\(\[ALT\]\)\+/\[ALT\]/g' but it replace aaa to a, i need from aaa get aa
[19:07] <dr_willis> how about if it was aaaaaaa?
[19:08] <krisss117> aaaaaaa -> aaa
[19:08] <ttucker> ubuntu!!!
[19:08] <xcyclist> Say, my cisco anyconnect client went away recently, and I don't see how to get it back.  What's up with that?
[19:08] <krisss117> if aa, aaaa, aaaaaa, aaaaaaaa ... then aa, else aaa, aaaaa, aaaaaaa, ..... then aaa
[19:09] <krisss117> :)
[19:10] <ifckdontcare> what distro in your opinion has the best gtk3 implementation?
[19:10] <pangolin> !polls
[19:10] <krisss117> a*2, a*4, a*6 .... then aa, else a+(a*2), a+(a*4), ... then aaa
[19:10] <krisss117> any idea ?
[19:12] <dr_willis> regrexps support some sort of (a*3) notation i recall.
[19:13] <dr_willis> or was it a(3+)
[19:13] <dr_willis> id have to go look it up. :)
[19:13] <fructose> I'm late... Are we talking about Theory of Computation here?
[19:13] <dannel> A's
[19:13] <enrichedd> yes
[19:14] <dr_willis> http://www.funduc.com/regexp.htm
[19:15] <dr_willis> sounds like we are doing someones homework.. :)
[19:15] <pangolin> does it have anything to do with ubuntu?
[19:15] <krisss117> no, it's no homework, i looking in google, byt nothikg there :/
[19:20] <Stepnjump> Hi, I am trying to install an app located at http://maketecheasier.com/ubuntu-how-to-extract-audio-from-youtube-video/2008/06/30 and whenever I try to install it, it tells me the package is of bad quality. More info at : http://paste.ubuntu.com/780159/
[19:20] <dr_willis> One or more expressions +()                             +(at) will find atat in catatonic and at in battle
[19:20] <dr_willis> theres regular expression gui builder tools :)
[19:22] <llutz> krisss117: sed  -r 's/(aa)+/aa/'
[19:22] <krisss117> lluts i try
[19:22] <dr_willis> using perl - this seems  similer -> http://forums.devshed.com/regex-programming-147/replace-multiple-characters-with-multiple-characters-613023.html
[19:23] <grape_> what is a bitcoin client that works with ubuntu, the official one on the wiki doesnt work with unity
[19:23] <krisss117> llutz: for aaa i have a, but i need aaa
[19:23] <krisss117> aaaaa -> aaa
[19:24] <Stepnjump> What does it mean when ubuntu says that a package is of bad quality?
[19:24] <llutz> $ echo aaa|sed  -r 's/(aa)+/aa/'
[19:24] <llutz> aaa
[19:24] <llutz> krisss117: ^^
[19:25] <syslq> Stepnjump: ? ubuntu says that
[19:25] <dr_willis> details would be nice.
[19:27] <jutnux> Can we keep ontopic please.
[19:28] <Stepnjump> http://www.webupd8.org/2011/04/how-to-install-deb-files-when-getting.html
[19:28] <krisss117> its work .... thanks so much :)
[19:29] <yekta> How can I see which shell I'm using from /etc/shells
[19:29] <yekta> which shell doesn't do it
[19:30] <SunTsu> echo $SHELL
[19:30] <llutz> yekta: echo $SHELL      /etc/shells only lists valid login-shells
[19:31] <yekta> thx!
[19:31] <kyubutsu> what's the procedure to make thunderbird read encrypted mail?
[19:31] <FrozenFire> Any suggestions for a piece of software to log work hours?
[19:31] <llutz> kyubutsu: install enigmail
[19:31] <TiMiDo> FrozenFire apt-cache search log hour
[19:32] <kyubutsu> gotcha
[19:32] <FrozenFire> Alright, given that Timido didn't actually answer anything, any suggestions? :P
[19:34] <enes> hi, i installed gentoo 11. then update-grub on ubuntu 11.10. there is "Found Gentoo Base System release 2.0.3 on /dev/sda1". but there isn't any information about gentoo on grub.cfg
[19:34] <enes> how can i add gentoo to ubuntu grub
[19:36] <dr_willis> enes:  add a entry to /etc/grub.d/40_custom would be one way
[19:37] <llutz> enes: sudo update-grub should do it. are you sure you haven't overwritten MBR when installing gentoo?
[19:37] <Acorn> I'm trying to use Empathy for SIP, but I'm not getting a SIP option when making an account. I've installed telepathy-sofiasip. What could I be doing wrong?
[19:37] <enes> dr_willis: i try it. but it doesnt work.
[19:38] <enes> llutz: i overwritten again from ubuntu
[19:38] <enes> there is ubuntu grub
[19:39] <llutz> enes:sudo update-grub ; ls -l /boot/grub/grub.cfg
[19:40] <dr_willis> have gentoo generate its own grub entry, copy it over to the 40_custome  perhaps.
[19:40] <dr_willis> then have ubuntu reinstall/take grub back :)
[19:42] <enes> i write to etc/grub.d/40_custom. is it wrong?
[19:42] <enes> menuentry "Gentoo Linux" {set root=(hd0,1)   linux /boot/kernel-3.0 root=/dev/sda1}
[19:42] <enes> it doesnt work
[19:44] <Airious> Can anyone assist me with finding a directory location for a windows partition through linux;
[19:44] <SunTsu> Airious: what is there to find. Put it where you see fit
[19:44] <Airious> I can navigate to to the file through the linux gui but do not know what to enter for the command line
[19:44] <krey_> hello, the install cd goes blank when I choose "start ubuntu" or "check disk for defects", what to do?
[19:45] <SunTsu> Airious: you're the administrator i.e. root, you decide what you want ypur system to look like
[19:45] <enes> gentoo doesnt generate its own grub entry. i wrote manual while installing
[19:45] <Airious> Yes, my question is a little more in depth then that, but admittedly not much :P
[19:45] <enes> dr_willis:
[19:46] <Airious> I know where the file is itself, i just don't know the proper command line to link to it, as it is not in the home folder, it is on a windows partition
[19:46] <enes> then it doesnt work. i guess i wrote something wrong
[19:46] <Airious> I know the path from the windows side, but do not know how Linux recognizes the drive letter, or if it uses the same drive letter system.
[19:46] <usr13> Airious: symlink?
[19:47] <Airious> symlink?
[19:47] <Pici> usr13: Airious doesn't know where the drive is mounted.
[19:47] <usr13> Airious: mount  with no arguments will tell you what is mounted and where it is mounted.
[19:48] <SunTsu> Airious: linux does not care about drive letters. You decide where to mount that partition like /mnt/windows - and from there you go down the directory tree on your windows partition
[19:48] <SunTsu> if there e.g. was c:\win32 it will turn to /mnt/windows/win32
[19:48] <usr13> Airious: You create a mount point of your choosing and then just mount it there.
[19:49] <SunTsu> IF you decided to mount that partition to /mnt/windows, that is
[19:49] <usr13> Airious: Have you not created a mount point yet?
[19:49] <Airious> I think the mounting is were I am getting confused, because I beleive that when I boot in my drives are automatically mounted... I do not need to do anything special to see any of the files
[19:50] <usr13> Airious: mount  with no arguments will tell you what is mounted and where it is mounted.
[19:50] <SunTsu> Airious: then see what usr13 just wrote.
[19:50] <usr13> Airious: Show us:  mount | pastebinit
[19:50] <SunTsu> if it's not mounted already mount it yourself to a point of your choice
[19:51] <usr13> Airious: If it is not mounted, see what it is you want to mount. Show us:  sudo fdisk -l | pastebinit
[19:52] <Airious> http://pastebin.com/M1uANeHB
[19:53] <ChrisC__> Okay, so Iḿ running Ubuntu 11.10 on a VM. Iḿ trying to update flash and downloaded the tar.gz but I can figure out how to install it. Any help? I thought I could update flash via Software Center but I cannot.
[19:53] <TalonLite> exit
[19:53] <usr13> Airious: Looks like it is not mounted.  (At least not at this time)
[19:53] <SunTsu> Airious: is it ntfs?
[19:54] <usr13> Airious: It is not mounted.
[19:54] <Airious> I believe that it is ntfs yes, but it has been over a year since i have changed the file system at all
[19:55] <kcj> I'm having trouble waking from suspend. Can anyone help?
[19:55] <usr13> Airious: Do you want to mount it?
[19:55] <Airious> If I right click the drive through the linux explorer gui I get an option to unmount the drive...
[19:55] <SunTsu> Airious: do you know it's device name?
[19:56] <Airious> it is the D drive in windows the name is 3c12bfe612bfa2f6
[19:56] <SunTsu> Airious: else, what's that mounted onto /media/3C12BFE612BFA2F6
[19:56] <djskidd> My idiot cousin reset the password to Ubuntu 11.04 on my netbook, how do I fix it so I can log in and grab my OpenSUSE ISO?
[19:56] <SunTsu> Airious: yeah, it's ntfs, mounted via fuse, therefore /media/3C12BFE612BFA2F6 is what you are looking for
[19:57] <djskidd> Someone help
[19:57] <usr13> Airious: Is this partition an actual bootable MS Windows install?  Or is it just an ntfs formatted partition?
[19:57] <SunTsu> djskidd: you're asking on more than one channel already, that's considered impolite
[19:57] <urlin2u> !password
[19:57] <Airious> So I would just type /media/drive///file location in the prompt?
[19:58] <Airious> it is a 397 gig partition
[19:58] <urlin2u> djskidd, you see the bot message?
[19:58] <mneptok> Prodego: *hat tip*
[19:58] <usr13> Airious: sudo fdisk -l | pastebinit
[19:58] <usr13> and send resulting URL
[19:58] <SunTsu> usr13: why? it's already mounted and we know where
[19:59] <Airious> http://pastebin.com/EzMDdwXK
[19:59] <SunTsu> Airious: it's /media/3C12BFE612BFA2F6/win32/system32.dll for instance
[19:59] <usr13> SunTsu: I think he is looking for  /dev/sda1
[20:00] <usr13> SunTsu: And yea,  /media/3C12BFE612BFA2F  could possibly be it.
[20:01] <SunTsu> usr13: he confirmed that 3C12BFE612BFA2F6 is the windows partitions "name" and that's mounted via fuse, which is the case when it's ntfs, therefore, we already got the mount point ;)
[20:01] <usr13> Airious: SunTsu Ok, then, that is it.
[20:01] <usr13> SunTsu: So, what does he want to do with it?
[20:02] <SunTsu> usr13: that I don't know yet. Access a file on it I guess
[20:02] <TalonLite> I think he just wants to explore the files usr13.
[20:02] <usr13> If he just wants to explore the files on it, looks like he's already doing that in the file manager.
[20:03] <ChrisC__> Iḿ really thinking about just switching over to ubuntu. It runs smooth on a VM.
[20:03] <SunTsu> Airious: so, now that we're at this point, what is it you want to do actually?
[20:04] <Airious> No I do not want to just view the files... My linux partition I only made at 50 gig and I have a file that was to big to fit so I needed to dl it to my open partition
[20:05] <Airious> What I am trying to do is get my own wpa key at this point, but really bigger picture i want to be better with networks and network security.
[20:05] <usr13> SunTsu: He has 3 ntfs partitions so...
[20:05] <TalonLite> ^
[20:06] <TalonLite> So he's trying to move something from 1 partition to another. So he has to mount both, not just his windows? right?
[20:06] <SunTsu> I like guessing games ;)
[20:06] <usr13> SunTsu: Airious Looks like 3 ntfs partitions, sda1 sda2 and sda3  (sda3 being the largest)
[20:07] <Airious> that sounds right
[20:07] <Airious> I have a windows partition linux partition and just an open partition
[20:07] <TalonLite> usr13:  is sda3 mount?
[20:07] <TalonLite> mounted*
[20:07] <nac4l> People having issues connecting to gmail via pidgin?
[20:07] <usr13> Airious: sudo blkid | pastebinit
[20:07] <usr13> show us..
[20:07] <Airious> I should not have to move the file to the linux system should I?
[20:08] <usr13> TalonLite:  I dono....
[20:08] <Airious> http://pastebin.com/sc68zyqX
[20:08] <SunTsu> TalonLite: it is, it's the one I'm talking about all the time
[20:08] <TalonLite> ^
[20:08] <SunTsu> Airious: no, you can access it directly, but only as long as you don't want to change it
[20:08] <Airious> I am at the point were I can use aircrack but the problem I keep getting is that the dictionary file cannot be found
[20:09] <Airious> This is what I get:
[20:09] <Airious> aircrack-ng -w /media/3C12BFE612BFA2F6/Network Discovery/Dictionary/wpa_psk-h1kari_renderman/wpa_tables.tar.lzma seab-01.cap
[20:09] <Airious> fopen(dictionary) failed: No such file or directory
[20:09] <Airious> fopen(dictionary) failed: No such file or directory
[20:09] <Airious> Opening Discovery/Dictionary/wpa_psk-h1kari_renderman/wpa_tables.tar.lzma
[20:09] <FloodBot1> Airious: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:09] <usr13> Airious: SunTsu sda3 is the largest one and the one he has mounted.
[20:09] <SunTsu> Airious: just a hint, before doing stuff like aircrack you might want to learn to crawl
[20:09] <achille> CIAO
[20:09] <achille> !LIST
[20:10] <SunTsu> !it | achille
[20:10] <Airious> lol woops ;)
[20:10] <Jeaton> i kinda regret upgrading from 10.04 to 11.10
[20:10] <SunTsu> Airious: please, learn your way around a unix system, before doing the stuff you're trying to do
[20:11] <TalonLite> why Jeaton
[20:11] <Airious> Any good recommendations on were to start?
[20:11] <NyvenZA> good evening, I have a problem with upgrading my Ubuntu 11.04 to 11.10. If i use the Internet upgrade, I get 2 files that have checksum mismatches. I have removed them and restarted and this didn't work. I tried to apt-get clean and re-downloaded everything again, and the same 2 files gave errors.
[20:11] <SunTsu> Airious: there lots of basic documentation, tons of it, just use google
[20:11] <NyvenZA> I am currently trying to upgrade with an ISO , but it keeps trying to download the same fiels even though I specify not to use the internet
[20:11] <xangua> Airious: you won't get aircrack help here, please stop
[20:11] <Airious> The problem I find is I cannot just read a manual or what not and learn it... I need a project that takes me ona  journey, which is what this has been ;)
[20:12] <Jeaton> im not liking unity, and gnome classic isn't the same
[20:12] <Airious> I did not think I would get aircrack help, I was more worried about the drive location ;)
[20:12] <TalonLite> Jeaton: Same, I use openbox.
[20:12] <NyvenZA> anyoone have any suggestions ?
[20:12] <TalonLite> Jeaton: There are plenty of other window managers.
[20:12] <Jeaton> i even resorted to kde, which I really regret
[20:12] <Jeaton> ill try openbox
[20:13] <usr13> Jeaton: Try xfce   sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[20:13] <xangua> NyvenZA: you can only upgrade with the Alternate version i believe, if you are trying to upgrade with a cd
[20:13] <TalonLite> Jeaton: http://urukrama.wordpress.com/openbox-guide/
[20:13] <TalonLite> Have fun, I enjoy it.
[20:13] <by_fel> Someone with a and get ready to send, a charity Christmas fzero
[20:14] <NyvenZA> xangua: busy downloading that already, that was going to be my next try
[20:14] <NyvenZA> it is going to be another 4 hours, so i thought i would try my luck here so long ;)
[20:14] <usr13> NyvenZA: Is there a particular reason you want to upgrade 10.04 to 11.10 ?
[20:15] <usr13> NyvenZA: LTS is a pretty good place to be, IMHO.  See:   https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LTS
[20:15] <NyvenZA> Well, I just wanted to get to the latest versions
[20:16] <usr13> NyvenZA: Okay.
[20:16] <xangua> NyvenZA: so you want to upgrade from 10.04 to 10.10 (4 hours) then to 11.04 (other 4) and finally to 11.10(do the maths) ¿¿
[20:16] <xangua> NyvenZA: you either want to do that Or do a Fresh install
[20:16] <NyvenZA> nope, i upgraded from 10.04 to 10.10 and then to 11.04 already
[20:16] <NyvenZA> just the last step to 11.10 that is not working
[20:17] <xangua> sounds like a lot of wasted time :/
[20:17] <cindy_> what is the best way to install open project on ubuntu 10.4
[20:17] <NyvenZA> My initial probelm was that after upgrading java-headless, the system was extreamlyt unstable.
[20:17] <TalonLite> NyvenZA: couldn't you back your data up and just do a fresh install of 11.10?
[20:17] <mebigfatguy1> i had to install 11.04 upgrade 11.10 because 11.10 doesn't install for me (linux 3.0 only)
[20:17] <NyvenZA> TalonLite: that is a last resort.
[20:17] <usr13> NyvenZA: As xangua points out, you need to do incremental upgrade, and you should start with fully updated system before performing an additional distribution upgrade.
[20:18] <NyvenZA> lots of time spent custmizing stuff and didn't want to go through that pain again
[20:18] <mebigfatguy1> so their sometimes are reasons for the circuitous route
[20:18] <NyvenZA> usr13: I am already up to date on 11.04
[20:18] <NyvenZA> no more updates available
[20:18] <usr13> NyvenZA: Okay
[20:19] <wmp> hello, how to copy alsa configure and reconfigure this?
[20:19] <usr13> NyvenZA: There may be apps that have been deprecated and that could be an issue for you.
[20:19] <Airious> Quick question Suntsu...What would be a good "Crawling" project and what level would u rate aircrack-ng at?
[20:19] <sweb> how can i search with apt-get ?
[20:19] <Pici> sweb: apt-cache search
[20:19] <sweb> apt-get search mystring ?
[20:20] <NyvenZA> usr13, none as far as I can see so far
[20:20] <usr13> sweb: apt-cache search  .....
[20:20] <NyvenZA> i have check each upgrade
[20:20] <NyvenZA> that is what i get if I try and update via the internet
[20:20] <NyvenZA> Failed to fetch
[20:20] <NyvenZA> http://za.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/b/bash-completion/bash-completion_1.3-1ubuntu6_all.deb
[20:20] <NyvenZA> Hash Sum mismatch
[20:20] <FloodBot1> NyvenZA: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:20] <NyvenZA> oops
[20:21] <xangua> NyvenZA: then instead of use your country mirror, try the main
[20:21] <usr13> NyvenZA: http://za.archive.ubuntu.co    is probably down or no longer in use.
[20:21] <enrichedd> shaw communications
[20:21] <NyvenZA> the other 300 files downloaded from there
[20:22] <enrichedd> nivan
[20:22] <enrichedd> nyven
[20:22] <usr13> NyvenZA: Maybe it just went down
[20:22] <wmp> anyone can help me? how to copy alsa configure and reconfigure this?
[20:23] <NyvenZA> usr13:  like I said, I didi a apt-get clean and re-downloaded all 300 files again and this files give the same error again
[20:23] <NyvenZA> hi enrichedd
[20:23] <usr13> NyvenZA: Maybe it just went down and will be back later. (Could be a problem with the server.)
[20:23] <enrichedd> nyven
[20:23] <Pici> NyvenZA: its possible that the file is corrupt on that mirror. Try a different one.
[20:23] <enrichedd> do u know mike evans
[20:23] <NyvenZA> i think it is an error with the checksums
[20:23] <hardwired> does anyone have an idea why I can't set the power mgmt level for my hd with hdparm -B?
[20:23] <Pici> enrichedd: Please stay on-topic.
[20:24] <enrichedd> k
[20:24] <hardwired> It's hard to find something about that on google
[20:24] <mcbaine1> !topic
[20:25] <llutz> hardwired: "Get/set Advanced Power Management feature, if the drive supports it"   are you sure it supports it?
[20:25] <NyvenZA> well, i did another apt-get clean, so i guess I have to download the files again
[20:25] <NyvenZA> will have to find a differnt mirror and edit source.lst
[20:26] <hardwired> llutz: No idea, it's a brand new drive though, so I was hoping it supports it
[20:26] <bingomanatee_> I am having a problem getting an Epson printer to talk to my Ubuntu device. CUPS is saying "413 Request Entity Too Large"
[20:27] <TIMiDo> configure cups and you are good bingomanatee_
[20:27] <llutz> hardwired:  sudo hdparm -i /dev/sdX | grep AdvancedPM           replace sdX to your device
[20:28] <usr13> Is that a mistake?  (That simply typing /topic will give info about the topic of this channel.)
[20:28] <felipe_Brz> where are the php .inis located in a simple php install as apache module from apt-get ??
[20:28] <TIMiDo> no usr13
[20:29] <TIMiDo>  /topic is a command ;)
[20:29] <SunTsu> usr13: that's standard
[20:29] <usr13> OH ok.
[20:29] <TIMiDo> so every time you type it the topic will show
[20:29] <llutz> felipe_Brz: /etc/php5/conf.d
[20:29] <felipe_Brz> llutz: kk thanks
[20:29] <usr13> I thought it was the output of !topic
[20:30] <usr13> sorry....
[20:30] <TIMiDo> no usr13
[20:30] <SunTsu> /topic without arguments will show the current topic, with arguments it will change it - IF you are allowed to
[20:31] <sweb> whats problem https://gist.github.com/1515283
[20:31] <hardwired> llutz: nope, all I get there is a "Power Management feature set", nothing about APM
[20:32] <Pici> sweb: What release of Ubuntu are you using and on what architecture?
[20:32] <hardwired> llutz: where did you find the string "AdvancedPM" though? I can't find that in the manpage
[20:32] <usr13> SunTsu: It only gives "Official Ubuntu Support Channel"  but I guess that is all it needs to say... "Ubuntu Support", yea, I suppose that pretty much sums it up.
[20:33] <felipe_Brz> where are php extensions located by default?
[20:33] <llutz> hardwired:  sudo hdparm -i /dev/sdX |pastebinit                      my seagate drive gives "AdvancedPM=yes: disabled (255) " back
[20:34] <silentz0r> hey, "Boot Error" when trying to boot from usb. Any ideas?
[20:34] <sweb> Ubuntu 10.04.3 LTS
[20:34] <usr13> silentz0r: Must be something wrong with the usb drive or the boot info on it.
[20:34] <silentz0r> usr13: tried same drive on different laptop, works fine.
[20:34] <nac4l> What's a good open-source website builder?
[20:35] <Pici> sweb: Can you pastebin the output of apt-cache policy php5-fpm
[20:35] <usr13> nac4l: Depends on what you want to build.  A lot of people are using CMS solutions.
[20:35] <usr13> nac4l: Like drupal
[20:36] <mebigfatguy1> nac4l: or joomla
[20:36] <nac4l> Basically a site for computer repair business, but also multimedia sharing, I use Apache but want to use FTP and maybe a forum or embedded irc too.
[20:36] <usr13> nac4l: But there is seamonkey and bluefish  and others ....
[20:36] <hardwired> llutz: ah, OK. I have "Power Management Feature" and "Host-initiated interface power management", but no APM values. I'll see if there's a different way to achieve automatic spindown. Maybe there's a daemon that'll do it.
[20:36] <sweb>  Pici: see comment on last pasebin
[20:37]  * Rhun Merry Xmas
[20:37] <TIMiDo> hardwired, the deamon is called acpid
[20:37] <usr13> nac4l: what does irc have to do with web site development ?
[20:37] <Pici> sweb: dotdeb.org packages are designed for debian, not Ubuntu.
[20:38] <TIMiDo> hey Pici
[20:38] <hardwired> TIMiDo: nice, thanks!
[20:38] <sweb> Pici: how  can i get last deb files for ubuntu server ?
[20:38] <TIMiDo> no problem hardwired
[20:38] <sweb> php 5.3.8
[20:38] <sweb> any ppa ?
[20:39] <TIMiDo> yes
[20:39] <Pici> sweb: You'll have to look yourself. 5.3.8 is not in any of our releases.
[20:39] <Pici> sweb: Is there a reason that 5.3.2 is not good enough for you?
[20:40] <TIMiDo> sweb, https://launchpad.net/~ondrej/+archive/php5/+build/2755971 there it is be careful  read the ppa
[20:40] <hardwired> TIMiDo: how exactly can acpid help me? What acpi event should I use to trigger drive spindown?
[20:41] <TIMiDo> man acpid hardwired
[20:42] <lazarus_> can i optimise the stock ubuntu kernel for the intel d525 processor
[20:42] <djskidd_> Brasero crashed, anyone able to find and read Brasero logs?
[20:42] <giorgio> xdcc list!
[20:43] <hardwired> TIMiDo: just did that, it mentions that acpi events trigger the daemon, which will then notify userland according to some rules. I can have it spin down the drive by executing hdparm -y, but what triggers it? I know of no acpi events that can do that.
[20:43] <pangolin> !list > giorgio
[20:43] <TIMiDo> yeah hardwired have you look here /etc/init.d/acpid
[20:43] <TIMiDo> look there
[20:43] <hardwired> TIMiDo: OK
[20:44] <djskidd_> Help?
[20:44] <TIMiDo>  djskidd_ run it with the terminal
[20:44] <hardwired> TIMiDo: wait, in the startup script?
[20:44] <hardwired> why?
[20:44] <TIMiDo> you'll see the errors
[20:45] <TIMiDo> hardwired, so it can start up at boot ;)
[20:45] <giorgio> ciao come funziona con linux?
[20:45] <djskidd_> So I load terminal and type Brasero?
[20:45] <TIMiDo> so it can show you. your battery percentage perhaps?
[20:45] <TIMiDo> yes djskidd_ try it out
[20:45] <llutz> TIMiDo: did you read hardwired problem at all?
[20:45] <TIMiDo> and it's not Brasero is brasero when you run it via terminal
[20:45] <hardwired> TIMiDo: I don't think you understand what I need to do. Thanks anyway though :-)
[20:45] <TIMiDo> hardwired, oh sorry
[20:45] <djskidd_> (brasero:1997): Unique-DBus-WARNING **: Error while sending message: Message did not receive a reply (timeout by message bus)
[20:45] <TIMiDo> i miss understood you then
[20:45] <TIMiDo> ;)
[20:46] <TIMiDo> djskidd_, sudo services dbus restart
[20:46] <OY1R> Q: what does udevd do ?
[20:46] <no-name-> how do you create a folder that's shared between two users?
[20:46] <TIMiDo> OY1R, rule-based device node and kernel event manager
[20:46] <no-name-> (there's only 2 users on this PC so I don't care if the folder is shared system wide)
[20:46] <TIMiDo> no-name-, man group
[20:46] <sweb>  Pici: https://bugs.php.net/bug.php?id=47802 also on PHP 5.3.6
[20:46] <andyn> TIMiDo: a bit overkill
[20:47] <OY1R> TIMiDo, it was hogging the cpu so i killed it, is that bad ?
[20:47] <djskidd_> sudo: services: command not found
[20:47] <TIMiDo> udev is buggy on the 11.10
[20:47] <OY1R> running 10.04
[20:47] <sweb> Pici: it's better to update ;)
[20:47] <TIMiDo> oh ok just making sure OY1R
[20:48] <OY1R> TIMiDo, is it ok for me to kill it ? (I ran htop as root and killed it=
[20:49] <TIMiDo> yes OY1R
[20:49] <TIMiDo> nothing happen to your system
[20:49] <TIMiDo> did it?
[20:50] <OY1R> TIMiDo, no, only the fans went silent heh.
[20:50] <TIMiDo> yeah ;)
[20:50] <TIMiDo> darn it
[20:50] <OY1R> and the system is more responsive.
[20:51] <usr13> OY1R: Were you having a difficult time with system resources?
[20:51] <SnakesAndStuff> Where can I find the libdvdcss and libdvdnav packages that allow for playback of protected DVD's in regions where it is legal?
[20:51] <SnakesAndStuff> Ubuntu 11.10
[20:51] <TIMiDo> SnakesAndStuff, apt-cache search libdvdcss
[20:51] <OY1R> usr13, it was using between 60 and 99% of the cpu and a lot of ram as well.
[20:51] <usr13> OY1R: udev is the  Linux dynamic device management
[20:51] <TIMiDo> you'll see them there SnakesAndStuff
[20:52] <kiosk_dude10> I've completed an installation preseed.cfg and will use a USB drive to install. Where in the USB file system does the file go?
[20:52] <lazarus_> can i optimise the stock ubuntu kernel for the intel d525 processor
[20:52] <SnakesAndStuff> TIMiDo: Tried, and mplayer is still giving me crap :/
[20:52] <TIMiDo> SnakesAndStuff, what crap is it giving you?
[20:52] <Tech-1> !medibuntu
[20:53] <TIMiDo> could it be cause is for medical purpose?
[20:53] <TIMiDo> lol
[20:53] <xb_chad> I'm running Ubuntu 11.10 (w/xfce). I have two input devices. I want one, a keyboard, to act normally (interact with the focused window), while the other always interacts only with a specific window. How would I set this up?
[20:53] <SnakesAndStuff> TIMiDo: libdvdread: Encrypted DVD support unavailable.
[20:53] <TIMiDo> !info libdvdread
[20:53] <Tech-1> SnakesAndStuff:  check out the link
[20:54] <e01> how can i make 32 bit qt to using the 64bit gtk themes
[20:54] <TIMiDo> SnakesAndStuff, sudo apt-get install libdvdread-dev
[20:54] <TIMiDo> and also libdvdread4
[20:54] <e01> i mean, on my 64bits oneric, i installed skype 32bits but theme is different than the desktop
[20:55] <pp7> e01: why did u install 32bit skype?
[20:55] <TIMiDo> explain different e01
[20:55] <e01> pp7, because there is no 64bit
[20:55] <e01> ;)
[20:55] <TIMiDo> there is
[20:56] <pp7> e01: why do u think that?
[20:56] <meerkats> after executing patch -p < vlcpatch.diff I get: patch: option requires an argument -- 'p' what am I doing wrong?
[20:56] <e01> TIMiDo, http://archive.canonical.com/pool/partner/s/skype/ where?
[20:56] <TIMiDo> look it up on skype.com e01
[20:56] <llutz> !info libdvdread4 | SnakesAndStuff
[20:56] <TIMiDo> don't be a fool
[20:56] <TIMiDo> get it directly from skype e01
[20:56] <pp7> is skype.com down?
[20:57] <TIMiDo> i'm not sure
[20:57] <e01> TIMiDo, first time i do that and it install 32bit qt libs
[20:57] <kiosk_dude10> I've completed an installation preseed.cfg and will use a USB drive to install. Where in the USB file system does the file go?
[20:57] <TIMiDo> e01, remember soemtimes 32 apps are very buggy for 64 arch
[20:57] <fructose> pp7: http://isitdown.us/
[20:57] <OY1R> pp7, doj.me
[20:57] <SnakesAndStuff> TIMiDo: did an apt-get install --reinstall on both those packages
[20:57] <SnakesAndStuff> TIMiDo: Still getting the error and a :DVDNAV stream read error!
[20:57] <SnakesAndStuff> DVDNAV stream read error!
[20:58] <OY1R> down or just.me doj.me :)
[20:58] <TIMiDo> SnakesAndStuff, paste the whole error at paste.ubuntu.com
[20:58] <OY1R> apparently skype.com is down
[20:58] <pp7> yep
[20:58] <TIMiDo> lol
[20:58] <TIMiDo> it maybe block the Ubuntu users
[20:58] <ius_> !list
[20:59] <SnakesAndStuff> TIMiDo: http://paste.ubuntu.com/780252/
[20:59] <SnakesAndStuff> And thank you :)
[21:00] <TIMiDo> SnakesAndStuff, read nano /usr/share/doc/libdvdread4/README.Debian
[21:00] <trism> meerkats: the -p option to patch is the number of leading directories to strip off before applying the patch, typically most patches are applied with -p1 (strip off the first directory)
[21:00] <ndxtg> is there any wifi stumbler on Ubuntu? I'd like to check if my neighbour channel is the same as mine. (I have freq lost connection)
[21:00] <Tech-1> SnakesAndStuff:  if your looking for dvd and media codecs that are not normally installed do this   sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[21:01] <TIMiDo> ndxtg, aircrack-ng ;) is good for tool for that
[21:01] <TIMiDo> lol
[21:01] <KaitoDaumoto> lol
[21:01] <ndxtg> lol :D
[21:01] <TIMiDo> use it at own risk
[21:01] <TIMiDo> :P
[21:01] <KaitoDaumoto> lol :D
[21:02] <mongy> ndxtg, I think iwlist will tell you the channel
[21:02] <sweb> where is ppa to add sources in https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mysql-5.5
[21:02] <TIMiDo> lol
[21:02] <TIMiDo> sweb, read the Manual
[21:03] <TIMiDo> sweb, but sudo apt-add-repository ppa::https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mysql-5.5
[21:03] <SnakesAndStuff> TIMiDo: I got it working! thanks
[21:03] <TIMiDo> good jub SnakesAndStuff  ;)
[21:04] <SnakesAndStuff> TIMiDo: I didn't realize that after doing the libdvdread4 I needed to manually run the install-css.sh that it installs
[21:04] <SnakesAndStuff> TIMiDo: Did that and it worked, so thanks for the help. I know it isn't fun to sit in a channel and answer questions all day, so kudos to all of you, much appreciated.
[21:04] <TIMiDo> that's why i refereed you to that file ;)
[21:04] <TIMiDo> no problem SnakesAndStuff
[21:05] <TIMiDo> have a good xmas with you're family
[21:05] <kiosk_dude10> I've completed an installation preseed.cfg and will use a USB drive to install. Where in the USB file system does the file go?
[21:05] <_0bitcount> How can I make my ttys come back in F1-F6, after they go blank, in 11.04?
[21:05] <TIMiDo> kiosk_dude10, read the /etc/fstab it should be there
[21:05] <Shizuo16> Hello Ubuntu Community
[21:05] <xb_chad> _0bitcount: Are you talking about ctrl-alt-F(number)?
[21:05] <kiosk_dude10> TIMiDo, I know where the device is, but does the installer look in the base directory of the installer device for this file?
[21:06] <TIMiDo> if is not there check it with lspci
[21:06] <TIMiDo> mount the device to /mnt or /
[21:06] <kiosk_dude10> Done
[21:06] <_0bitcount> xb_chad, that's right.
[21:07] <Shizuo16> Who know how can i install blender 2.61 or update my 2.58 ?
[21:08] <xb_chad> _0bitcount: That was my suggestion :) Sorry, I've never had them go 'blank' - always just a login prompt...
[21:09] <nave_> hi all
[21:09] <borillion> Im a bit confused, I want to format my extra drive for more space after installing ubuntu on what I thought was my second drive can some one take a quick peek at my fdisk http://pastebin.com/wcSHtrND
[21:10] <borillion> hi nave_
[21:10] <_0bitcount> xb_chad, thanks, but the problem is harder than that. They go blank after going back to F7 (Xorg).
[21:10] <TIMiDo> you got 3 partitions borillion
[21:10] <borillion> TIMiDo, right, what about sda is it safe to format?
[21:10] <xb_chad> _0bitcount: I'm afraid you're out of my kiddie pool of knowledge, then. :/
[21:11] <nave_> borillion you now what is it dark net?
[21:11] <TIMiDo> lol i see it u got sdb and sda
[21:11] <borillion> no not really
[21:11] <nave_> sorry about the quickly question
[21:11] <TIMiDo> yes you do look at lines 23 to 25
[21:12] <borillion> TIMiDo,  yea I do I thought sdb is the one with the os when I installed but now Im not sure which is safe to format
[21:12] <nave_> ok thanks.. (:
[21:12] <borillion> TIMiDo, the no not really was to nave_
[21:12] <TIMiDo> oh
[21:13] <TIMiDo> damn those are big h/d
[21:13] <borillion> TIMiDo, seems like after install sda became sdb
[21:13] <Isti> hi! I have a question regarding using the live CD: can I somehow achieve, that the live CD doesn't want to mount the existing filesystem on the machine?
[21:13] <pp7> how comes when I want to compress something from nautilus or marlin nothing happens?
[21:13] <borillion> will gparted let me format th eone with the os on it?
[21:13] <TIMiDo> why do you have to linux partitions borillion ubuntu/debian?
[21:13] <TIMiDo> borillion, not unless is not mount it
[21:14] <borillion> timido so it wont let me format the running os pretty much
[21:14] <TIMiDo> the Running os no
[21:14] <TIMiDo> but run the live cd
[21:14] <borillion> kk
[21:14] <TIMiDo> and run the gparted
[21:14] <borillion> no I dont want to do that, I want to format the unused one for extra space
[21:15] <TIMiDo> like i said, boot with the live cd
[21:15] <TIMiDo> try the os
[21:15] <wh1t3> Hey guys, quick question. I have oneiric and use krusader to access smb shares, I ran apt-get upgrade this afternoon and now I get an error saying the smb protocol is not registered. When I google it, it tells me to install some package for kio-slaves handling for kde, but this package is not available for ubuntu. Any idea how I can add smb support to KDE apps?
[21:16] <borillion> TIMiDo, you can just run gparted from the term after installing it
[21:16] <TIMiDo> and mess with the partitions or now run gparted  as sudo to see if it does allows you to shrink the side
[21:16] <borillion> TIMiDo, lol actually Im done, hopefully I didn't have grub on the other drive, rebooting to see
[21:17] <TIMiDo> ok reboot
[21:17] <Isti> we hope you'll be back
[21:18] <xb_chad> I'm loathe to repost my question. If someone is skilled in the art of X windows and input devices, I'd appreciate a quick scroll up to check out my question.
[21:19] <borillion> xb_chad, no idea here
[21:20] <olmo> jorick
[21:20] <borillion> TIMiDo, /boot/ has a grub entry on this drive
[21:20] <TIMiDo> check it out
[21:20] <xb_chad> borillion: :) Thanks for checking!
[21:21] <shiloh> thanks for the assistance everyone who helped, ubuntu has been nice for many years, sad it came to this, moving to different distro
[21:21] <borillion> shiloh, how come?
[21:21] <borillion> xb_chad did you try searching debian distro's and see if you could not download it?
[21:22] <shiloh> borillion: im going to move to something a little more friendly, this release is just not my thing, i hate the de, and dont want to leave gnome, perhaps ubuntus next release will be something usable
[21:23] <borillion> shiloh, install gnome-fallback
[21:23] <TIMiDo> yeah or use xfce4
[21:23] <TIMiDo> is cool
[21:23] <Oer> !nounity
[21:23] <xb_chad> borillion: download what?
[21:24] <borillion> xb_chad, http://packages.debian.org/search?suite=default&section=all&arch=any&searchon=names&keywords=kio
[21:24] <borillion> xb_chad, you can use command line to get the dependencies needed if you dont have them when you download the deb
[21:25] <borillion> shiloh, I kinda agree with you, Unity was not ready for release and prob still isn't
[21:25] <xb_chad> borillion: Ah. You're suggesting I install some 'kio' utilities? Does it matter that I'm not running KDE? (though I'd be willing to switch to make this work).
[21:26] <EvilResistance> xb_chad:  you can run Qt / KDE apps without having KDE installed
[21:26] <ttucker> you can...
[21:26] <EvilResistance> xb_chad:  the same apples for running GNOME / GTK apps without having GNOME as the interface (I do that with Kubuntu)
[21:28] <borillion> EvilResistance, he is missing some parts some how, sounds like its out of the kio-slave which he cant find for ubuntu but it looks like its in the debian  package "I/O slaves for KDE"
[21:29] <xb_chad> borillion/EvilResistance: Thanks. It says there's a replacement... "kde-runtime-data"?
[21:29] <EvilResistance> xb_chad:  try apt-get install kde-runtime-data
[21:29] <borillion> ^^
[21:29] <EvilResistance> with sudo of course
[21:29] <EvilResistance> xb_chad:  sudo apt-get install kde-runtime-data
[21:30] <wh1t3> your problem sounds related to mine
[21:30] <EvilResistance> borillion:  yeah, what packages are for Debian, sometimes get replaced/renamed in Ubuntu :P
[21:30] <linuxrealm> how can i get my sound card to play both a youtube video and also be able to talk to someone on skype. it seems the resources can handle only one at a time. note, this is on another persons computer.
[21:30] <xb_chad> Yep, installing now. Let's see what I get...
[21:30] <linuxrealm> or youtube video and gmail.
[21:31] <wh1t3> hmmm, I just installed pretty much every kde package, still not working :/
[21:31] <xb_chad> Ok, installed... But not sure what that got me, actually.
[21:31] <xb_chad> Am I looking for some new GUI utility, or was that just libraries?
[21:31] <EvilResistance> xb_chad:  that's the required runtime libraries
[21:31] <borillion> EvilResistance, kio-slaves =  I/O slaves for KDE
[21:31] <xb_chad> Ok
[21:32] <EvilResistance> borillion:  i gathered that
[21:32] <borillion> EvilResistance, kk
[21:32] <EvilResistance> borillion:  my original statement remains the same :/
[21:32] <Stepnjump> Hi guys, I have an internal fax modem in my computer. I don't think it's on ttyS0 because it doesn't respond to efax. How can I ensure it is recognized by ubuntu? Something like lsusb I can do?
[21:32] <xb_chad> So for doing the actual configuration, what's my next step?
[21:33] <borillion> Stepnjump, is it a usb one?
[21:33] <Stepnjump> sorry no, it's connected inside the computer borillion
[21:33] <EvilResistance> Stepnjump:  if its internal, it might just be a standard modem that interfaces with the faxes... try lspci first to find the device in the list
[21:33] <borillion> Stepnjump, nm
[21:33] <xb_chad> I can identify the two input devices, and tested the one I care about with evtest
[21:33] <borillion> Stepnjump, lspci
[21:33] <Stepnjump> thanks borillion let me check
[21:34] <Stepnjump> 03:03.0 Modem: PCTel Inc HSP MicroModem 56 (rev 02) borillion
[21:34] <Stepnjump> 03:03.0 Modem: PCTel Inc HSP MicroModem 56 (rev 02) borillion, EvilResistance
[21:35] <tech2> Hi all, trying to work out what the cause of an apt-get upgrade saying packages are being kept back. Is there some good documentation on this someplace, more particularly on how to resolve it?
[21:35] <enrichedd> is emacs open source?
[21:35] <tech2> enrichedd: it's almost the epitome of it :)
[21:35] <TIMiDo> tech2, use aptitude
[21:35] <EvilResistance> enrichedd:  most of the software in Ubuntu is open source.  You could try checking the emacs site
[21:35] <TIMiDo> to fix dependencies
[21:36] <tech2> TIMiDo: thanks, I'll give it a look.
[21:36] <Stepnjump> borillion, EvilResistance: how do I figure out which ttySx it's on?
[21:36] <TIMiDo> no problem tech2
[21:37] <wh1t3> Ok, does anybody know a file manager that works well under ubuntu and can access smb shares?
[21:37] <EvilResistance> wh1t3:  nautilus?  if you configure smb shares right it should be able to open it...
[21:38] <Jlo1978> !Rulez
[21:38] <wh1t3> EvilResistance: the configuring is not up to me, but they are accessible
[21:38] <Owner> try naulitus
[21:38] <EvilResistance> wh1t3:  then nautilus should work
[21:38] <EvilResistance> Jlo1978:  can we help you?
[21:38] <wh1t3> EvilResistance: it appears my window manager (dwm) has some issues with nautilus
[21:40] <borillion> Stepnjump, not sure
[21:40] <meerkats> what libraries do I need to use vlc with a qt4 skin?
[21:40] <Stepnjump> borillion, it's possible no driver was found for it. I think it's a winmodem. Might need to buy a new one for ubuntu
[21:41] <Stepnjump> How could I tell if a driver was found for it borillion?
[21:41] <TIMiDo> Stepnjump, which driver is it?
[21:41] <TIMiDo> specified the (driver)
[21:41] <tech2> wh1t3: tried something a little more orthodox, like "Worker"?
[21:41] <EvilResistance> Stepnjump:  it might be using a generic driver...
[21:41] <Stepnjump> TiMiDo, I don't know.. That's what I would like to know. If it has a driver associated with it
[21:42] <borillion> Stepnjump, lsmod
[21:42] <EvilResistance> that lists the drivers :P
[21:42] <borillion> well loaded ones at least, if it got picked up
[21:42] <wh1t3> tech2: not familiar with that, let me have a look
[21:42] <TIMiDo> Stepnjump, sudo lspci check it there or tail | dmesg
[21:42] <tech2> wh1t3: if not, then maybe thunar, rox or xfce?
[21:43] <tech2> wh1t3: not sure if they all support smb, but they're good starting points.
[21:43] <borillion> Stepnjump, you can always use pastebin and put your results in there so we can look :P
[21:43] <Stepnjump> EvilResistance.. maybe.. borillion, http://paste.ubuntu.com/780314/
[21:44] <Seppoz> hello, who starts depmod -a in ubunto at boot time
[21:44] <borillion> Stepnjump, can you do a sudo lspci -v?
[21:45] <borillion> Stepnjump, dont see anything in lsmod that looks like it might be a fax modem
[21:45] <Stepnjump> Wow, I would never know how to read this TIMiDo: http://paste.ubuntu.com/780317/
[21:46] <nicofs> Why is the resolution i need almost never featured in the drop down list of the monitor preferences GUI? How would I add it there permanently?
[21:46] <Stepnjump> borillion: http://paste.ubuntu.com/780318/
[21:46] <TIMiDo> stephenh, specified your error
[21:46] <EvilResistance> nicofs:  start by diagnosing your graphics card.  what graphics card?
[21:46] <xubuntu499> ca nayone help me
[21:47] <nicofs> EvilResistance, shared intel GMA950 or something similar...
[21:47] <EvilResistance> !ask | xubuntu499
[21:47] <Stepnjump> borillion: it sees it under lspci but that doesn't mean necessarily that it has a driver associated with it I guess, right?
[21:47] <linuxrealm> how can i get my sound card to play both a youtube video and also be able to talk to someone on skype. it seems the resources can handle only one at a time. note, this is on another persons computer. or gmail. how do i go about finding the issue? where to begin.
[21:47] <EvilResistance> nicofs:  you might want to start by checking for any proprietary drivers...
[21:47] <wh1t3> tech2: Worker doesn't seem to support smb
[21:47] <EvilResistance> nicofs:  if that doesnt work, it might need some hacking away in some file somewhere, but i'm not familiar with what that file is
[21:48] <wh1t3> my main problem is that krusader as working fine this afternoon and now it has stopped :/
[21:48] <tech2> wh1t3: shame, some of the other orthodox ones do, depends if that's your kind of thing though: http://www.techradar.com/news/software/applications/6-best-orthodox-file-managers-for-linux-605506
[21:48] <borillion> Stepnjump, http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=6898964&postcount=3
[21:48] <nicofs> EvilResistance, i know how to add the resolution manually - but i'm sick and tired of doing that *every* time i start this thing...
[21:49] <Stepnjump> borillion: sorry I didn't prefix the lsusb -v with sudo: here is the new cout: http://paste.ubuntu.com/780324/
[21:49] <EvilResistance> nicofs:  ah, well i'm not sure how to help you freeze the file then... sorry
[21:49] <borillion> Stepnjump, this is what to do http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=6898964&postcount=3
[21:49] <borillion> Stepnjump, has drivers and how to install
[21:49] <Stepnjump> thanks for the link borillion. awesome!
[21:50] <xb_chad> EvilResistance: Hmm.. I played around and haven't had any luck. Now that I have those libraries, any suggestions on how to send one input device to a specific window?
[21:50] <tech2> nicofs: locking a file so it can't be modified is simple, if that's what you really want.
[21:50] <Stepnjump> So how did you find out borillion that the drivers were not already installed please?
[21:50] <Stepnjump> just so I know for the future
[21:50] <Duelisti> I bought a new modem router today (A-LINK RR24AP-N) and as soon as I got online with it, I wasn't able to go to my modem/router settings anymore. How can I fix this?
[21:50] <EvilResistance> xb_chad:  i'm not familiar with kio or w/e you're using, so i cant help much more than i did
[21:50] <nicofs> tech2, i want "1280x720" to be available - that's all...
[21:50] <media> Good evening
[21:50] <xb_chad> EvilResistance: I don't have to use kio :). What do you mean by w/e?
[21:51] <EvilResistance> xb_chad:  shortened form of "whatever"
[21:51] <tech2> nicofs: that's the only addition you have to make, not changing the driver or anything like that?
[21:51] <media> Could someone perhaps briefly assist me with installing firefox 9 in Ubuntu 11.10 64 bit
[21:52] <nicofs> tech2, well everything works - at least as far as graphics is concerned - i just lack this particular resolution...
[21:52] <media>  been at it the whole day but it run-mozilla.sh just won't execute.
[21:52] <xb_chad> EvilResistance: Ah. Well then maybe I should have said I don't know what I'm using yet! I'm open to any proposed solution to my problem.
[21:53] <EvilResistance> :P
[21:53] <borillion> Stepnjump, look in your lsmod I didn't see anything with "com" in it
[21:53] <tech2> nicofs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/Resolution#Adding_undetected_resolutions maybe?
[21:53] <MahaVishnu>  nicofs cvt 1280 720 then copy the part starting with " to xrandr --addmode "part from other line"
[21:53] <borillion> Stepnjump, that was my quess as to what it would have looked similar to
[21:54] <media> I installed Opera without a problem, does anyone know if there is a debian package for firefox 9
[21:54] <xb_chad> I've thought, actually, about seeing if I could run a separate X server, since the window I want to send it to is full screen on a 2nd monitor (well, faux full screen).
[21:54] <tech2> media: I believe mozilla have a ppa for firefox.
[21:54] <media> The tar.bz2 package is extractable but not runnable
[21:54] <MahaVishnu> nicofs{} sorry --newmode
[21:54] <Stepnjump> I'm sort of new so I'm learning as I go. Let me check it out borillion
[21:55] <media> A ppa? I have never heard of that (noob alert :)
[21:55] <nicofs> MahaVishnu, that's fine - but i have to do that every time i start - and that for a completely standard resolution...
[21:55] <auronandace> !ppa | media
[21:55] <Stepnjump> those commands will get useful. I will read the man pages on them. thanks a lot borillion. Let me try to install the drivers from the URL you sent me. I will let you know soon
[21:55] <MahaVishnu> nicofs{} no you don't have to do it every time.
[21:55] <borillion> Stepnjump, also try "ls /dev/modem'" nothing will show
[21:56] <borillion> kk
[21:56] <nicofs> MahaVishnu, I have a script performing the above task - and if i don't run it every time, i don't get the resolution...
[21:57] <media> @Ubottu, Have you tried installing / Upgrading Firefox manually, have you succeeded in getting it running?
[21:57] <auronandace> media: ubottu is the bot
[21:57] <auronandace> !bot | media
[21:57] <media> I wonder if there might someting be wrong with my installtion
[21:57] <xubuntu499> anyone good with SSH?
[21:58] <MahaVishnu> nicofs{} add it in your xorg.conf then
[21:58] <lystra> xubuntu499: What do you need?
[21:58] <Skummel> xubuntu499 what do you want with it?
[21:58] <auronandace> media: you trying to run a script? have you made it executable?
[21:58] <xubuntu499> trying to tunnel port 563
[21:58] <xubuntu499> with putty
[21:58] <xubuntu499> idk what i'm doing lol
[21:58] <media> Before I came here someone advised me to install ia32-libs. I did so but to no avail.
[21:59] <Stepnjump> indeed borillion: http://paste.ubuntu.com/780331/
[21:59] <auronandace> media: you trying to run a script? have you made it executable?
[21:59] <xubuntu499> nope no script
[21:59] <TIMiDo> !info ia32-libs
[21:59] <xubuntu499> just trying to tunnel port 563 so that it can use the IP of my server rather than my IP
[21:59] <TIMiDo> there is your answer ;P
[21:59] <wh1t3> tech2: mucommander does the job nicely, thanks a lot man, appreciate it :)
[21:59] <Skummel> xubuntu499: not really a ubuntu question. but http://oldsite.precedence.co.uk/nc/putty.html
[22:00] <tech2> wh1t3: no problem, glad some people still prefer that style manager.
[22:00] <xubuntu499> ya you're righ it's not but still i'm using ubuntu for my ssh server
[22:00] <wh1t3> couldn't live without dwm and a proper file manager :)
[22:00] <media> @Auronandace, Face palm... Thanx for the info.
[22:01] <dark> what is the preferred way to set up a custom command to exec at startup? will /etc/rc.local work with unity?
[22:01] <auronandace> media: chmod+x nameofscript.sh
[22:01] <dark> i mean, upstart
[22:01] <auronandace> media: only run it if you trust the script
[22:01] <tech2> wh1t3: I can't remember the last time I used a file manager, I used to love Directory Opus on my amiga, but that's been >a decade since I used it :) Learn the shell bash/zsh/fish, whatever, it'll repay the investment tenfold.
[22:02] <nicofs> MahaVishnu, shouldn't that be in /etc/X11/xorg.conf ?
[22:02] <wh1t3> tech2: I mostly use shell, but I'm on a university network, there are smb shares that are searchable via browser. So I want to be able to click it and have it open my filemanager to the location.
[22:03] <tech2> wh1t3: fair enough.
 Downloaded it from the Firefox website so that shoudn't be the problem. I just can't get it to run. I think I might have the wrong linux package.
[22:03] <media> Althoug I tried both 9.01 and 10.01 (beta)
[22:03] <wh1t3> tech2: If this had not worked I would have scripted something to mount in a random dir and cd to that
[22:04] <media> There is no actual installer inside. Just an executable run-mozilla.sh
[22:04] <media> And that one won't run
[22:05] <auronandace> media: i don't bother with firefox anymore, i just use chromium
[22:05] <xubuntu499> me too
[22:05] <xubuntu499> :)
[22:05] <media> I'll check it out.
[22:05] <Odaym> if I have some keys on here, http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?search=Oday+Maleh&op=index
[22:05] <Odaym> can I import one of them to my machine and retain it as my own?
[22:05] <auronandace> media: if you are patient firefox 9 might be made available in the repos
[22:10] <Gorilla_No_Baka> hello.. and merry christmas... to whomever might be online
[22:11] <xubuntu499> Merry Christmas!
[22:12] <insectatorious> Merry Xmas...and be prepared to be knocked down for off-topic ... :D
[22:12] <insectatorious> been happening all day
[22:12] <Gorilla_No_Baka> really>
[22:13] <jgautier> yo
[22:13] <Gorilla_No_Baka> yo what>\
[22:16] <Seveas> it's not christmas yet! But merry normal day anyway :)
[22:16] <OY1R> Ditto
[22:16] <Seveas> Odaym, generally not. The private key is not found there
[22:16] <Odaym> alright
[22:17] <insectatorious> mhmmm. we should have a bot greeting everyone 'merry xmas' on the 25th...just to piss of the politically correct ones...
[22:17] <Seveas> insectatorious, neh, trolling is no fun
[22:18] <veezyuser> l
[22:18] <rahduke> hi all! does anyone know where skype p2p file transfers end up? I cant find the skype download folder
[22:18] <Seveas> veezyuser, excellent, that's one letter, try the others :)
[22:19] <ederico> rahduke: I believe the default folder is Downloads
[22:19] <rahduke> missing the file
[22:19] <insectatorious> rahduke: can you see the file transfer window atm?
[22:19] <Stepnjump> In nautilus, there has to be a shortcut to create a new document right? CTRL - N opens a new nautilus window, CTRL SHFT N creates a new folder
[22:19] <Seveas> rahduke, if you know the filename, you can use some command line magic to find it
[22:19] <Stepnjump> Can't stand using the mouse
[22:19] <usr13> insectatorious: (and all others) I don't think it is being "politically correct" to try and keep the channel from veering off-topic.  (Passiontely Christian)
[22:19] <rahduke> no file transfer window is gone
[22:20] <rahduke> Seveas: i do know the filename
[22:20] <insectatorious> usr13: acknowledge :D
[22:20] <Seveas> rahduke, open a terminal window and type this: find -iname "filename goes here"
[22:20] <ederico> dear all, this will seem like a stupid question, but I never used the hibernate mode and was wondering, is it normal for the system to reboot after hibernate when I press the laptop's power button (that's what I did with suspend and it works just great)?
[22:20] <ederico> p.s. I'm running 11.10
[22:21] <Seveas> ederico, hibernate is quite hit and miss. It never works for me
[22:21] <rahduke> Seveas: no dice
[22:21] <Seveas> it's not supposed to reboot but be a more deeper sleep than suspend
[22:21] <Seveas> rahduke, try roulette instead then ;)
[22:21] <usr13> ederico: No it is not normal.  But as Seveas points out, hibernate doesn't always function as expected.
[22:21] <xubuntu499> ya i don't think it should reboot it should resume after hibernation
[22:23] <Seveas> one thing that will definitely make hibernate fail: having your swap be smaller than your memory. (as it wants to store all memory contents on the swap partition), or using an encrypted swap partition (like any sane person does)
[22:23] <rahduke> any other help?
[22:24] <xubuntu499> you said this was a laptop not a desktop?
[22:24] <auronandace> rahduke: did it really transfer?
[22:25] <rahduke> yea i got it! was looking for wrong file name
[22:25] <Seveas> hehe
[22:25] <rahduke> thanks all
[22:29] <ederico> @Seveas I just recreated my swap partition to use hibernate, and it is double my ram (4GB swap for 2GB ram), I really don't how if it is encrypted
[22:30] <Seveas> ederico, it's not encrypted by default yet I think
[22:32] <ederico> Seveas: Then I guess it is not encrypyed. Anyways, I'm reckoning that the hibernate function is highly unstable then, I might just have to stick to suspend then.
[22:32] <Seveas> ederico, highly unstable would be what I'd call it too. Whether it works is very hardware dependent
[22:33] <Seveas> and with current bootup times I don't even bother with suspend anymore, I just shut down :)
[22:33] <usr13> ederico: hibernate works just fine for some, for others, it seems to be a problem.
[22:34] <ederico> Seveas: Unfortunately my system boots up slowly, quite an old laptop. I'll try hibernate a few more times but if it doesn't deliver as expected I'll keep using suspend
[22:34] <ederico> usr13: thanks for your input
[22:34] <ederico> Seveas: thanks for explaining
[22:34] <Seveas> yw
[22:35] <lotus-blade> I want to install KDE as if I had installed it and gnome ate the same time.  what is the best way to do this?
[22:35] <ederico> xubuntu499: thanks to you too
[22:36] <willpim> hello, hoping to get some help with this one: just reinstalled an ubuntu server, only one hard drive was connected during setup, second one connected after (contains documents), I did an upgrade from 10.10 to 11.04 (now with second hard drive connected but not mounted) now when i come to mount the drive all files are gone and directory listing gives:
[22:36] <willpim> abi-2.6.35-22-generic-pae         memtest86+.bin abi-2.6.35-28-generic-pae         memtest86+_multiboot.bin config-2.6.35-22-generic-pae      System.map-2.6.35-22-generic-pae config-2.6.35-28-generic-pae      System.map-2.6.35-28-generic-pae grub                              vmcoreinfo-2.6.35-22-generic-pae initrd.img-2.6.35-22-generic-pae  vmcoreinfo-2.6.35-28-generic-pae initrd.img-2.6.35-28-generic-pae  vmlinuz-2.6.35-22-generic-pa
[22:36] <EvilResistance> spam!
[22:36] <willpim> disk usage seams about what it was before, any way to get my files back?
[22:36] <usr13> willpim: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[22:37] <usr13> lotus-blade: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[22:37] <willpim> im running a server and don't want to install a gui
[22:37] <EvilResistance> willpim:  usr13 seems to have mishighlighted
[22:37] <usr13> sorry, willpim Wrong nic.
[22:37] <willpim> ah kk
[22:38] <Seveas> willpim, pastebin the output of: sudo fdisk -l; mount
[22:39] <willpim> http://pastebin.com/qNYtmca0
[22:39] <willpim> seveas: http://pastebin.com/qNYtmca0
[22:39] <Chaazd> Using the terminal, when I open something, Am i able to set it to open in a new terminal window?
[22:39] <Seveas> willpim, that's only the 'mount' output. Please follow instructions in detail.
[22:39] <willpim> seveas: it's the one mounted as /mini
[22:40] <Seveas> Chaazd, yes, by running it as: gnome-terminal your_command_here &
[22:41] <willpim> Seveas: sorry, http://pastebin.com/PAhBkewK
[22:42] <mhsy> hello. had a small update a couple of days ago. gnome 3 in fallback, unity not working. not sure what to do
[22:42] <willpim> Seveas: I presume that based on output, ubuntu has consumed my other drive for swap
[22:43] <Seveas> willpim, /dev/sdb1 is probably /boot with /dev/sdb5 a pv for lvm. Mount the relevant lv to get your files back
[22:43] <Chaazd> Seveas: getting failed to parse argument: Cannot open display
[22:43] <shinyuu> i'm mhsy... for some reason auto-renamed me
[22:44] <Seveas> Chaazd, ah, you're running it in a real vt, not in the gui in a terminal application :)
[22:44] <gribouille> gi
[22:44] <gribouille> hi
[22:44] <Seveas> Chaazd, in that case the answer is no-ish
[22:44] <gribouille> the command "amixer set Master off" turns the sound off, but "amixer set Master on" doesn't bring it back (on oneiric)
[22:44] <_Neytiri_> I am having a issue with my system, my old install of 10.4 crashed on me and when i reinstalled i  my raid array didnt come back online, i copied the fstab file and rebooted and still no luck
[22:44] <_Neytiri_> reboot
[22:45] <xubuntu499> funny fingers > sorry idk that's tough
[22:45] <_Neytiri_> hoaw can i fix it without loosing my data
[22:45] <Seveas> willpim, does 'sudo vgs' or 'sudo lvs' give any useful info?
[22:46] <Chaazd> Damn
[22:46] <gribouille> when will firefox 9 be available?
[22:47] <willpim> Sevas: i chose not to use LVM for my main disk when doing the clean install, hence why i was unable to mount, I'm setting up that now, THANKS very much, just thought I'd lost a lot of important files, merry christmas!!
[22:47] <Chaazd> Seveas: Trying to run a server, and closing it on my machine closes it over there3
[22:47] <Seveas> willpim, merry christmas to you too :)
[22:47] <Seveas> Chaazd, you'll want to use screen
[22:48] <Seveas> http://linux.die.net/man/1/screen
[22:48] <Seveas> allows you to detach and reattach
[22:48] <_Neytiri_> I am having a issue with my system, my old install of 10.4 crashed on me and when i reinstalled i  my raid array didnt come back online, i copied the fstab file and rebooted and still no luck, all my drives came back but my raided drives
[22:49] <Seveas> _Neytiri_, a bit more info about the raid array may convince people to help you. Was it software or hardware raid? Which raid level?
[22:49] <_Neytiri_> ohh it was software
[22:49] <david> hello
[22:49] <Seveas> hello david
[22:49] <david> what are you doingo ?
[22:50] <Seveas> helping people in here with Ubuntu problems
[22:50] <david> doing ?
[22:50] <Guest49095> illo
[22:50] <Guest49095> que aseis  ?
[22:50] <Seveas> !es | Guest49095
[22:50] <sskalnik> !es > Guest49095
[22:50] <Seveas> sskalnik, too slow :P
[22:50] <Guest49095> hello
[22:50] <Guest49095> i am a poor man
[22:51] <Guest49095> i am fucking mi dog now
[22:51] <Guest49095> i am a perverate man
[22:51] <Guest49095> buuu
[22:51] <gribouille> when will firefox 9 be available?
[22:51] <Guest49095> hello someone for sex ?
[22:51] <Seveas> Guest49095, unless you have an Ubuntu problem we can help you with, please chat somewhere else.
[22:51] <Seveas> This channel is for ubuntu support only
[22:51] <Seveas> gribouille, when it's ready :)
[22:51] <usr13> Guest49095: Wrong channel.
[22:51] <Guest49095> hello
[22:52] <quint> i'm fairly certain i have a virus
[22:52] <Guest49095> do you want ...s... with me ?
[22:52] <Seveas> quint, a linux virus?
[22:52] <OY1R> quint, i guess your running windows or mac then =
[22:52] <quint> all of my contacts were spammed
[22:52] <alien2050> hehehe
[22:52] <gribouille> Seveas, when will it be ready.?
[22:52] <Star_Light> how can I ignore someone?
[22:52] <insectatorious> sounds like a phising scam to me
[22:52] <Seveas> thanks pangolin
[22:52] <quint> no im pretty sure it was a virus
[22:52] <usr13> quint: That is not a Linux or Ubuntu issue.
[22:53] <retrorex> Hey how can you reuse terminal after it has been used to run a program
[22:53] <quint> how can i check for viruses?
[22:53] <Seveas> usr13, well, it is if it is a virus.
[22:53] <alien2050> quint: there are no viruses in Linux
[22:53] <usr13> quint: I am pretty sure you are wrong.
[22:53] <Seveas> quint, what kind of contacts? facebook, gmail twitter?
[22:53] <quint> there are viruses actually...
[22:53] <insectatorious> retrorex: is the first program still running?
[22:53] <Seveas> quint, try clamav
[22:53] <retrorex> yes
[22:53] <OY1R> well it it's a virus on a ubuntu system that makes it a ubuntu/linux problem indeed!
[22:53] <arcsky> anyone know if its possible to email files to dropbox?
[22:53] <sskalnik> gribouille:  You can try this http://www.noobslab.com/2011/12/install-firefox-9-on-ubuntu.html
[22:53] <guntbert> !av | quint
[22:53] <shinyuu> hey, how do you get out of fallback mode?
[22:53] <retrorex> @insect* yes
[22:54] <Seveas> retrorex, you'll want to look at screen
[22:54] <alien2050> see?
[22:54] <Seveas> http://linux.die.net/man/1/screen
[22:54] <alien2050> no viruses
[22:54] <insectatorious> retrorex: so you can't see the prompt because the program is running?
[22:54] <quint> without using clamav are there any things i can check ?
[22:54] <OY1R> quint, have a look at http://www.clamav.net/lang/en/
[22:54] <_Neytiri_> I am having a issue with my system, my old install of 10.4 crashed on me and when i reinstalled i  my raid array didnt come back online, i copied the fstab file and rebooted and still no luck, all my drives came back but my raided drives, it was a software raid consisting of 2 phisical 2 tb disks, 3 drives created off of them 1 4gb drive and 2 900somethign gig drives
[22:54] <Seveas> quint, yes, whether your contact info could have been retrieved in any other way, say by knowning your facebook password
[22:54] <alien2050> well, unless you caught it in Windows, but it's not executable in linux anyways so no worries
[22:55] <quint> hotmail**
[22:55] <sskalnik> alien2050:  You can totally get a virus on Linux. It's just that hardly anyone makes them, and the speed at which you can update makes it mostly moot.
[22:55] <gribouille> why is firefox 9 available as a security update an not a regular uodate?
[22:55] <insectatorious> retrorex: as in, once the program has started running, are you able to run other commands or has the first stopped you from doing that?
[22:55] <retrorex> The thing is that after running for ex: $ epiphany  . .. I want my command line back in terminal
[22:55] <quint> i ran an untrusted script as root
[22:55] <sskalnik> alien2050:  So generally, no, but technically, yes.
[22:55] <Seveas> quint, a much more likely cause is that someone guessed or phished your hotmail password. Change it right away.
[22:55] <quint> stupidly
[22:55] <insectatorious> append a '&' after the command and it will run in the background
[22:55] <Seveas> do you have that script still?
[22:55] <guntbert> retrorex: start the program in the background, like   epiphany &
[22:56] <quint> it was either a script or a binary
[22:56] <retrorex> Sort of anything like "q" in terminal
[22:56] <quint> im unable to download clamav as im on a slow network
[22:56] <alien2050> sskalnik: nah... I don't believe that... worse would be a port opened or a malevolent script that you run
[22:56] <insectatorious> retrorex:
[22:56] <insectatorious> retrorex: append a '&' after the command and it will run in the background
[22:56] <alien2050> but something that attaches to binaries in Linux... I don't think so
[22:57] <idsme> hi everyone
[22:57] <insectatorious> hello
[22:57] <Seveas> retrorex, if you are interested in learning more about job control in the shell (which is what that & sign, ctrl-z and bg are all about), read this: http://www.gnu.org/software/bash/manual/bashref.html#Job-Control
[22:57] <Star_Light> with which command can I ignore someone here?
[22:57] <Seveas> Star_Light, /ignore some_nick_here
[22:57] <idsme> anyone experience with a adaptec raid card and ubuntu
[22:57] <alien2050> If you replace a binary, then yes, but it's a security issue in the first place, not a virus
[22:57] <Star_Light> yes I push it
[22:57] <alien2050> a virus replicates...
[22:57] <idsme> how can i mount my raid partitions
[22:57] <Star_Light> with no result finally :/
[22:58] <retrorex> @insect* works like a charm ..Thanks
[22:58] <insectatorious> no worries
[22:58] <sskalnik> alien2050:  Believe it or not, it is the state of things. UNIXes have been infected before.
[22:58] <insectatorious> retrorex: check out the link from Seveas, it should tell you more if you need
[22:58] <retrorex> @Seveas reading .... thanks
[22:58] <quint> are there any things i can look for in dmesg that would indicate some type of keylogger?
[22:58] <Seveas> hmm, I'm upgrading to precise and my fonts are going all wonky during the upgrade
[22:59] <Seveas> More things may fail :)
[22:59] <sskalnik> alien2050:  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux_malware
[22:59] <Seveas> quint, usually not. The process list may tell you more. Feel free to pastebin it and I'll see if I can spot something
[23:00] <alien2050> From your quote: "the malware's lack of root access" <-  that's what I'm saying. If you implement good security, no risk
[23:00] <Seveas> alien2050, there are tons of linux viruses out there already
[23:01] <tech2> alien2050: if you have _any_ sort of access to a box, root's a mere step away.
[23:01] <Seveas> admittedly, they all target android, but it's still linux viruses.
[23:01] <quint> Seveas how can i cleanly dump the output of top to a file?
[23:01] <alien2050> ok ok don't freak out cuz I'm not a believer
[23:02] <jutnux> quint: terminalcommandhere > filenamehere
[23:02] <Seveas> quint, I wouldn't use top, but: ps axuf
[23:02] <usr13> Seveas: When people are getting spammed from your email address and you are not doing it, what is more-than-likely done from another computer and the email addresses were harvested from an email that had a lot of addresses in the To: field   (That is why I advise people to use Bcc:)  At any rate, it is an erroneous assumption that one has a virus just because people are getting spam from their address.
[23:02] <Seveas> if you want to use top anyway: top -b -n1 -c
[23:02] <Seveas> usr13, I know that. I'm not the one claiming there's a virus on my pc
[23:02] <Seveas> The worst malware on my pc is me :)
[23:03] <usr13> Ok, then, to-whom-it-may-concern
[23:03] <Seveas> back in a bit, rebooting after upgrade
[23:03] <sskalnik> Seveas: then the malware has root access... sounds like a rather nasty virus. ;)
[23:04] <efes> hello :)
[23:05] <Seveas> back
[23:05] <_Neytiri_> I am having a issue with my system, my old install of 10.4 crashed on me and when i reinstalled i  my raid array didnt come back online, i copied the fstab file and rebooted and still no luck, all my drives came back but my raided drives, it was a software raid consisting of 2 phisical 2 tb disks, 3 drives created off of them 1 4gb driv (raid 0) and 2 998 gig drives (raid 1).  Under the Disk
[23:05] <_Neytiri_> utility i try to start the raid and get the error: not enough componunts to start the raid array
[23:05] <quint> here is my process list, please take a look at it to see if you may know of anything strange that could possibly indicate a virus
[23:05] <quint> pastebin.com/4S6gXGNw
[23:05] <Seveas> sskalnik, yes, it's pretty nasty. Can do a whole lot of damage. It also knows all my passwords!
[23:06] <tech2> quint: if you have something that has taken over your machin, chances are that it's also loaded a kernel module and replaced things like ps. Anything you show us is worthless. Boot from cdrom or something _then_ try looking at your system.
[23:07] <EvilResistance> quint:  you could always try running rkhunter, but if your system is infected, it might not work right
[23:07]  * EvilResistance recommends rkhunter ;P
[23:07] <usr13> quint: You have embarked on a witch hunt.  You more-than-likely do not have a virus.  But, why exactly do you think you do?
[23:07] <quint> i have a feeling i may just have to reinstall when i get a chance
[23:07] <tech2> rkhunter is fine if you're running it from an external (non-affected) boot medium.
[23:07] <Seveas> quint, apart from 'mousepad', nothing looks wrong there. Is mousepad the xfce editor?
[23:07] <quint> yes
[23:08] <Seveas> quint, then everything looks a-ok, I'm convinced that they got your contact list in some other way
[23:08] <Tech-1> if you have a rtkit, chances are you wont be able to get rid of it, re-install would be better, and some times, there are false positives that confuse noobies.
[23:08] <quint> i am on an open network.. though the chances of someone knowing what they're doing on that network are very very slim
[23:09] <sskalnik> quint:  Odds are only your email password was compromised. I would change it to something more secure.
[23:09] <usr13> quint: Have you ever received an email with a lot of email addresses in the To: field?
[23:09] <quint> i did change it, unfortunately i was locked out by microsoft
[23:10] <usr13> sskalnik: That's probably not it either.
[23:10] <quint> they want my mobile phone number
[23:10] <quint> screw that..
[23:10] <quint> microsoft is not getting my number
[23:10] <usr13> sskalnik: His email address is being spoofed.  (It is very easy to spoof an email address.)
[23:10] <quint> usr13 the messages were logged on the webmail
[23:11] <quint> someone definitely logged in and manually did it themself
[23:11] <Seveas> oooh, ubuntu precise has firefox 10 already. Time to update the highest supported version in my extensions again
[23:11] <DarkStar1> I'm trying to automount a partion and have the following line in fstab: UUID=07c49252-2262-4e19-a9c7-98c30da5a490	/backup			 ext4		Fsw				 0			2
[23:11] <DarkStar1> That about correct?
[23:11] <Seveas> no
[23:11] <sskalnik> usr13:  I was about to say, that's the other likely possibility.
[23:12] <Seveas> DarkStar1, Fsw makes no sense. try defaults
[23:12] <quint> i'm thinking ill run wireshark for awhile and take a look at some packets to see if there are any unusual ones.. in which case ill just have to block the connecting host
[23:13] <quint> ill route them to 127
[23:13] <DarkStar1> Seveas: F for fork mounting, s for tolerance to sloppy mounts and w to make it writeable. No defaults are specified and I must put something in that field
[23:14] <quint> does that sound like it would work?
[23:14] <Seveas> DarkStar1, the word defaults there means
[23:15] <Seveas> DarkStar1, the word defaults there means rw, suid, dev, exec, auto, nouser, and async.
[23:15] <Seveas> you don't need sloppy or forked with that
[23:15] <DarkStar1> Seveas: Ok
[23:15] <usr13> quint: Your email address is more than likely beeing spoofed.  Many spammers use spoofed email addresses and that is more-than-likely what is happening now.  (Just a couple days ago, I got a spam email from a friend of mine that passed away almost 2 years ago.)
[23:15] <quint> usr13 spoofing would not log it in the hotmail web interface
[23:16] <Seveas> usr13, ouch. I usually only get spam from my "email administrators".
[23:16] <quint> it all appeared in my outbox
[23:16] <DarkStar1> Seveas: hhmm.. funny it doesnèt mention that as an option in: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions
[23:16] <alien2050> quint: check your mail headers to know if that's the case
[23:16] <Seveas> Which is weird 'cause I don't remember me sending that mail to myself :-)
[23:16] <_Neytiri_> I am having a issue with my system, my old install of 10.4 crashed on me and when i reinstalled i  my raid array didnt come back online, i copied the fstab file and rebooted and still no luck, all my drives came back but my raided drives, it was a software raid consisting of 2 phisical 2 tb disks, 3 drives created off of them 1 4gb driv (raid 0) and 2 998 gig drives (raid 1).  Under the Disk
[23:16] <_Neytiri_> utility i try to start the raid and get the error: not enough componunts to start the raid array
[23:16] <usr13> quint: What email client do you use?
[23:16] <Seveas> DarkStar1, the manpage for mount mentions it
[23:17] <DarkStar1> Seveas: so I changed the line to: /backup			 ext4		defaults				 0			2
[23:17] <Seveas> DarkStar1, and I trust manpages over wikipages
[23:17] <quint> not a local client, used the hotmail web login
[23:17] <DarkStar1> minus the uuid
[23:17] <usr13> quint: Or do you use web-based email?
[23:17] <Seveas> I'd do 0 0, but 0 2 works too
[23:18] <quint> i use hotmail (for some reason i dont know) and signed in through the website
[23:18] <quint> *should* be secure against sniffers
[23:18] <DarkStar1> Seveas: thx
[23:18] <usr13> quint: Ok, so someone sent email from the web-based hotmail server, not from your computer.  Right?
[23:18] <quint> from the hotmail server
[23:18] <quint> i feel like i have a keylogger
[23:19] <edbian> quint, sounds to me like somebody knows your password. keylogger or otherwise
[23:19] <tech2> I know google has this feature, not sure about hotmail, but does hotmail tell you how many places you're logged in from?
[23:19] <xubuntu499> not that i am aware of
[23:20] <quint> how can i block an ip address locally?
[23:20] <z3ro3x> I succesfully setup Postfix acording to these directions.  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Postfix  I setup Evolution to send mail through it.  I tried using it to send a test email to my gmail account.  No errors from Evolution.  It seemed to send successfully.  How ever I never received the email in my gmail account.  Any ideas what I might have done wrong?
[23:20] <xyz123abc456> How do I obtain the PATH to a given program when it has no environment variable?
[23:20] <akston> is there a way to essentially split a large iso to burn across multiple dvds?
[23:20] <Seveas> quint, for incoming or outgoing traffic?
[23:20] <edbian> quint, block packets coming from it or going to it?
[23:20] <edbian> :P
[23:20] <quint> going to it
[23:20] <Seveas> sudo iptables -A OUTPUT -d ip.address.here -j DROP
[23:20] <quint> thannnnk you.
[23:20] <quint> :)
[23:21] <edbian> quint, I think you can also but it in /etc/hosts.deny
[23:21] <xubuntu499> i am trying to tunnel NNTP via ssh and can't seem to get it to work i know ports < 1024 are reserved but i want to tunnel 563 to my server's ip address
[23:21] <Seveas> edbian, that's for incoming packets, but only for services that use that file (read: it's practically useless)
[23:21] <dark> Seveas, oh, can you tell me why this isn't redirecting all traffic to port 80 to port 5984: iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING -p tcp --dport 80 -j REDIRECT --to-port 5984
[23:22] <edbian> Seveas, ahh, never knew that
[23:22] <dark> I'm testing on just the lo interface (source 127.0.0.1, dest 127.0.0.1)
[23:22] <xyz123abc456> I forget, what's that command used when you pipe something over to it, and it filters out the results, for say, the locate command?
[23:22] <edbian> xyz123abc456, grep?
[23:22] <xyz123abc456> Yes thank you.
[23:22] <edbian> xyz123abc456, sure
[23:22] <alien2050> a lot of people have had problems with hotmail recently, people have had their accounts "hacked", actually happened to someone close to me; she had MS support, I even called MS and they said it was on our side, which was sooooooo funny, I had the email headers to prove it but they didn't want them... ah! MS.... you always make me laugh...
[23:22] <Seveas> dark, that should redirect packets...
[23:22] <Seveas> dark, ah, the lo interface doesn't do NAT
[23:23] <xubuntu499> can i use that itables and direct everything over SSL port 563?
[23:23] <dark> Seveas, oh.... thanks. what should I do?
[23:23] <dark> I'm using socat and it works, but it's ugly
[23:23] <quint> gonna go try it
[23:23] <skilz> xubuntu499: netfilter
[23:23] <Seveas> dark, test with your real ip, from the outside
[23:23] <quint> thanks guys
[23:23] <xyz123abc456> Yay I found it.
[23:24] <skilz> xubuntu499: iptaqbles
[23:24] <dark> Seveas, I want it for exactly the lo interface
[23:24] <skilz> iptables
[23:24] <Seveas> dark, http://jengelh.medozas.de/images/nf-packet-flow.png
[23:24] <xubuntu499> and how do i tunnel nntp port 563
[23:24] <dark> Seveas, that was helpful. my biggest problem is that I don't quite understand what's going on
[23:25] <usr13> xubuntu499: yes
[23:25] <L551> Is there any way to reset an admin password on 10.10? I have absolutely no idea what I set it as and I can't rememember it at all.
[23:25] <usr13> L551: There is no admin password, only user password
[23:25] <Seveas> dark, look in the "forward path" column at the top for "local process" and follow the arrows. nat prerouting is never reached fromthere
[23:26] <edbian> L551, There is no root password in ubuntu by default
[23:26] <Seveas> dark, you're not generating ingress traffic, so can't do NAT
[23:26] <Seveas> but if you only want it on localhost, you control the application, so why not just let it connect to the correct port?
[23:26] <L551> Well, the user password needed. I am trying to log in to my account but forgot what it is. And I assumed it was the admin account but I guess it's just a user.
[23:27] <xubuntu499> ssh -L 10563:nntphostcomputer:563 doesn't seem to work for me
[23:27] <jutnux> L551: sudo passwd username
[23:27] <xubuntu499> any idea why?
[23:27] <usr13> !password | xubuntu499
[23:27] <edbian> L551, You can't recover a user password but you can get all the files using a live CD
[23:27] <mongy> L551,  add rw init=/bin/bash to boot parameter and when booted, type passwd username
[23:28] <edbian> omg!
[23:28] <edbian> You can do that?!
[23:28] <xubuntu499> i didn't know that either
[23:28] <Seveas> edbian, yes. But you need to mount -o remount,rw / first though :)
[23:28] <Seveas> I've even written a script to help you do that from a live cd
[23:28] <mongy> edbian, in 10.10 and older but not in newer versions.  its just a matter of booting to recovery console in newer
[23:29] <edbian> You can also just boot recovery mode which dumps you at a root shell
[23:29] <Seveas> https://github.com/seveas/hacks/blob/master/reset_passwords
[23:29] <edbian> according to the link
[23:29] <edbian> mongy, yeah!
[23:29] <xubuntu499> how can i tunnel 563 should i just tunnel say 10563 instead and have it forward to 563??
[23:29] <dark> Seveas, I don't quite control it. (I mean, I could bugtrack chrome to understand why it refuses to allow cross scripts on extensions to ports other than 80 on its manifest.json... or, I could see on how to add the capability "listen to low ports" to couchdb user using maybe SElinux or something like that.... but both those tasks seems harder than redirecting ports)
[23:29] <felipe_Brz> I want to add a user to sudoers but there's no group admin in /etc/group ... what can I do?
[23:30] <Seveas> dark, in that case, use socat :)
[23:30] <dark> Seveas, long story short: no port redirection for local connections
[23:30] <dark> ?
[23:30] <Seveas> dark, affirmative
[23:31] <dark> so my other question would be: where to put the socat command? will upstart respect /etc/rc.local as of ubuntu 11.10?
[23:31] <edbian> felipe_, look harder.  Unless you manually took it out, it's still in there
[23:31] <dark> (I am just a reboot away from testing that :P)
[23:31] <edbian> felipe_Brz, look harder, unless you manually took it out, it's still in there
[23:32] <edbian> felipe_Brz, log in as a user that can sudo.  Is admin listed in the output of 'groups' ??
[23:32] <Seveas> dark, I believe it still does
[23:32] <felipe_Brz> edbian: I may have manually taken it out.... I was following a website where it was written that to add a user to a group you had to "adduser <groupname> <username>" but it's the other way around
[23:32] <felipe_Brz> edbian: let me see
[23:32] <madsen> hey... anyone know lftp well???
[23:33] <edbian> felipe_Brz, ok
[23:33] <Seveas> !anyone | madsen
[23:33] <felipe_Brz> edbian:  i just did vim /etc/group and there's no admin group there
[23:33] <madsen> Seveas: tsk
[23:33] <Seveas> madsen, :)
[23:33] <edbian> felipe_Brz, Is there a reference to the admin group in your /etc/sudoers?
[23:34] <usr13> felipe_Brz: Are you sure?    grep admin /etc/group
[23:34] <felipe_Brz> usr13: yeah. i probably erased it
[23:35] <felipe_Brz> edbian:  there is, but it's commented out
[23:35] <lystra> Anyone here using multipath and iSCSI on 11.10?
[23:35] <edbian> felipe_Brz, well at this point you can start adding users to the /etc/sudoers file manually or you can recreate the admin group, fix the sudoers file so it's not commented out, and add the users you want to that group
[23:35] <edbian> felipe_Brz, it's up to you :)
[23:36] <L551> Even after resetting my password in recovery it's telling me it's wrong
[23:36] <Seveas> L551, in recovery mode, did you do "passwd" or "passwd username" ?
[23:37] <dark> Seveas, I will reboot and discover. thank you
[23:37] <usr13> felipe_Brz: grep admin /etc/group~
[23:37] <L551> passwd username
[23:37] <Seveas> L551, then you've made a typo somewhere, retry :)
[23:37] <Guest89365> Anyone knows how to put gcc output into variable?
[23:38] <Guest89365> (bash)
[23:38] <bobdobbs> How do I get ubuntu 10.10 to register the existence of an iphone ?
[23:38] <Seveas> Guest89365, that's generally not a very good idea, but you'd do it like this: output=$(gcc foo.c)
[23:38] <edbian> Guest89365, var=`gcc command goes here`
[23:38] <edbian> I think
[23:38] <edbian> Guest89365, either that or with ' instead of `
[23:38] <Seveas> edbian, avoid using backticks. They don't nest :)
[23:38] <edbian> quote instead of tick
[23:38] <Seveas> use $(...)
[23:38] <edbian> ahh
[23:38] <edbian> that's probably best but is bash specific I think
[23:39] <Seveas> it's not
[23:39] <edbian> oh
[23:39] <edbian> there ya go!
[23:39] <Seveas> it's part of the posix sh specification, even dash supports it :)
[23:39] <usr13> !iphone | bobdobbs
[23:40] <bobdobbs> usr13: I've been looking at that documentation, and it says that I should expect iphone support "out of the box". But this is not the case.
[23:40] <Neglect> Hello, can you read this?
[23:40] <edbian> Neglect, no
[23:40] <bobdobbs> usr13: when I plug my iphone in via USB, absolutely nothing happens.
[23:40] <edbian> :P
[23:40] <Seveas> Neglect, unfortunately that's comepletely unreadable.
[23:41] <bobdobbs> usr13: the phone doesn't light up or make a noise. banshee, amarok and gtkpod don't see the iphone.
[23:41] <bambanx> how i can fix grub guys?
[23:41] <Seveas> !grub | bambanx
[23:42] <edbian> bobdobbs, switch the iphone from mtp to msc mode or the other way around
[23:43] <madsen> lftp -u username,password -e "mirror --reverse --delete --only-newer --verbose path/to/source_directory path/to/target_directory" ftpsite
[23:43] <madsen> how does one quit lftp after this??
[23:43] <bobdobbs> edbian: cool :)  Not sure what that means, so I'm googling now.
[23:43] <madsen> you ladies have any idea??
[23:44] <edbian> bobdobbs, mess around in the GUI of the ipod/phone (whatever).  It's the difference between a jump drive and some special software storage device
[23:44] <edbian> bobdobbs, I can't remember which is which, usually switching it fixes things
[23:44] <bobdobbs> edbian: interesting.
[23:44] <edbian> bobdobbs, yeah... I think apple refers to this as 'storage mode' or something in their gui's
[23:44] <usr13> madsen: exit
[23:45] <bobdobbs> edbian: I See
[23:45] <Seveas> usr13, didn't know you were a lady :)
[23:45] <edbian> usr13, You're a lady?  Now I know to treat you differently!
[23:45] <usr13> Seveas: I didn't either  (guess I fell for that one).
[23:45] <edbian> Gosh I've been making such a fool of myself.
[23:46] <mcbaine1> weren't we all.
[23:46] <Seveas> no worries, your secret is safe with us
[23:46] <madsen> usr13: have tried.. aint working...
[23:46] <usr13> madsen: man lftp
[23:47] <usr13> madsen: Ctrl-c   (I dono, just guessing)  But it should have quit after the exchange.
[23:47] <usr13> q
[23:48] <madsen> usr13: I mean I know its exit normally.. but this is in a script... e.g. backup of server 1 then exit and backup of server 2 via the script
[23:48] <bobdobbs> edbian: So you reckon there is a gui element to make the iphone switch modes?
[23:48] <madsen> that I cant figure out
[23:48] <edbian> bobdobbs, yes
[23:49] <usr13> madsen: if you used the -e switch, it will execute the ggiven commands and not exit.  If you use the -f or -c switches, it will execute the commands and then exit.
[23:49] <edbian> bobdobbs, I'm googling for it now
[23:50] <usr13> madsen: see:  man lftp
[23:50] <bobdobbs> edbian: thanks. Me too.
[23:51] <usr13> madsen: You will more-than-likely need to make adjustments to the script based on what you learn from lftp's man file.
[23:51] <edbian> bobdobbs, Ahh, I'm reading that iphones don't support mass storage mode: http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=1052590
[23:51] <edbian> !iphone
[23:51] <bobdobbs> edbian: I see.
[23:52] <bobdobbs> edbian: There must be a another solution. I've had this iphone working with older versions of ubuntu
[23:52] <edbian> bobdobbs, plug in the iphone.  Do you see anything regarding the iphone in the output of th dmesg command after it's been plugged in?
[23:52] <bobdobbs> lets see...
[23:52] <edbian> bobdobbs, I'm confident we'll get it working
[23:53] <qmanjr5> Why do torrents stall near the end with QBTTorrent
[23:53] <usr13> bobdobbs: dmesg or messages?   tail -f /var/log/messages    #Run that while you plug it in.
[23:54] <bobdobbs> edbian: no. no changes in dmesg. Does this mean that the kernel isn't seeing a physical device being added?
[23:54] <edbian> bobdobbs, that's excatly what it means
[23:54] <usr13> bobdobbs: anything in /var/log/messages ?
[23:54] <bobdobbs> edbian: I'm absolutely  certain that the USB port and the cable are fine. I've thorouly tested both.
[23:54] <bobdobbs> edbian: Looking at log...
[23:54] <usr13> bobdobbs: Try another USB port.
[23:54] <Oer> qmanjr5, never happened with ubuntu + kubuntu torrents
[23:55] <edbian> bobdobbs, I was about to say, check the ports.  Perhaps that USB port is not USB2.0 or does not provide power (therefore not activating the iphone)
[23:55] <edbian> bobdobbs, Is that possible?  Try some other ports (ones on the back usually are the ones with power / usb2.0
[23:56] <bobdobbs> edbian: ok. changing ports now.
[23:56]  * bobdobbs crawls under desk
[23:56] <edbian> bobdobbs, obviously, check ports and dmesg at the same time
[23:57] <bobdobbs> edbian: hah!
[23:57] <bobdobbs> edbian: getting a response from the iphone now :)
[23:58] <madsen> when is 12.04 LTS to be released?
[23:58] <bobdobbs> edbian: ok... testing stuff
[23:58] <edbian> bobdobbs, awesome!
[23:58] <bobdobbs> edbian: and fspot just opened :)
[23:58] <Oer> next year, madsen
[23:58] <edbian> bobdobbs, works out of the box
[23:58] <madsen> roger
[23:58] <bobdobbs> edbian: :)
[23:58] <edbian> madadam1, in april of 2012
[23:58] <edbian> hence the 12.04
[23:58] <Seveas> ♪ Do you hear what I hear ♫
[23:58] <edbian> ha
[23:59] <madsen> edbian: :-) Jan or Dec. ? :-)
[23:59] <bobdobbs> edbian: This makes sense. Now that I think about it, when I had the iphone working before, on another computer, I was using ports from the back of my pc
[23:59] <madsen> ohh april
[23:59] <edbian> madsen, sorry?  april
[23:59] <edbian> haha
[23:59] <edbian> yeah
[23:59] <edbian> bobdobbs, yeah :)
[23:59] <edbian> madsen, it goes  Year.Month
[23:59] <Seveas> apple devices are really picky in what they support.
[23:59] <bobdobbs> edbian: I never knew that there was a difference between the back ports and the fron.