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ben_how do I tell if ubuntu studio controls is installed?04:25
ben_how do I determine if ubuntu studio is installed?04:26
holsteinben_: you can go and search for them in whatever package manger you use04:27
holsteinyou shouldnt need them though04:27
ben_holstein, ...good idea...04:29
ben_holstein, I'm really just trying to find the Ubuntu Studio Controls so I can enable 1394 raw access04:30
holsteinben_: right, you dont need to do that anymore04:30
holsteinwhats the issue?04:30
holsteinwhen troubleshooting my FW device, i run gksudo qjackctl to troubleshoot around the premissions errors04:30
holstein*then* i get it running as normal user04:31
ben_holstein, well, I run kino using gksudo kino and it runs for approx 700 MB and then stops...I read that I would need to run it as a non-root member04:31
ben_sudo kino results in don't have access to raw139404:31
ben_holstein, any ideas why it stops when I run as root...I'm trying to get video off my camcorder btw04:32
holsteinben_: firewire chipset?04:32
holsteinkino version?04:32
holsteinwho knows04:32
holsteinmost of us here are pretty much audio guys04:33
ben_holstein, ...how come I can run it as a non-root?04:33
holsteini would hit the mailing list if you cant get an answer here04:33
holsteinben_: you want to run it as non-root04:33
ben_holstein, ..what does ubuntu studio install any ways?  I'm using 11.10 and I did a search for ubuntu studio and it didn't show up although I had spent like 45 minutes waiting for ubuntu studio to be installed after running sudo apt-get install blah blah blah04:34
holsteintheres a list04:34
holsteini thinks this is pretty current04:35
holsteinhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuStudio/PackageList04:35
ben_dang that list is massive...I was waiting like 45 minutes on an excellent connection04:36
holsteinright04:37
holsteinits a lot of stuff04:37
holsteinand you dont need it04:37
holsteinmost of it is audio04:37
ben_holstein, ...so I installed that for nothing04:38
ben_wow04:38
holsteinwell, you dont need ubuntustudio-audio ;)04:38
holsteinthats a pretty obvious one... its not going to hurt anything04:38
holsteinbut, its not going to help you right now either04:38
holsteini would run lspci and look at the FW chipset, and google around04:39
holsteinthere are a few that are really awful in linux04:39
ben_holstein, ...I just can't figure it out...I run it as root and it captures the video but then stops after like 2 minutes04:40
holsteinright, thats what i would expect from a funky chipset04:40
ben_holstein, alright...so any idea how I solve this problem?04:41
holsteinben_: sure... check and see what chipset you have04:42
ben_holstein, how do I do that?04:42
holsteinlet me know what it is... and also google about its linux compatibility04:42
holsteinthen, you can consider getting a card, or some other meathod of moving that video over04:43
holsteinlike, just dragging the files off04:43
holsteinlike its a hard drive.. does it not suppor that?04:43
holsteinyou can open the terminal, and run 'lspci'04:43
holsteinthat will tell you the chipset for the FW (as well as other info)04:44
ben_http://pastebin.com/T5BVTQp704:45
ben_holstein, does that help?04:46
holsteinFireWire (IEEE 1394): Agere Systems FW643 PCI Express1394b Controller (PHY/Link) (rev 07)04:47
holstein^^ thats your firewire chipset04:47
holsteinyou can feel free to google around about it, but i have *never* had any luckk with an Agere04:47
ben_holstein, so what am I looking for exactly?04:48
holsteinben_: different hardware than what you have04:48
holsteinpreffereably texas instruments04:49
holsteinOR, a way to move that file over with out just re-recording it04:49
ben_holstein, so your saying that I'd need to buy hardware..I see04:50
holsteinben_: im saying, i have never had luck with that particular chipset, and doing audio04:50
holsteini bought texas instruments chipsets04:50
holsteinyour mileage may vary04:50
ben_Well, what if I just use virtual box in windows and use some software to do that?04:53
holsteinvirtualbox shares firewire?04:55
holsteini dont think that passes through04:55
holsteinhow else can you grab that data?04:55
ben_holstein, nope it doesn't...I guess I will have to re-install OS X and dual boot Windows XP04:55
holsteinyou could grab that data in a dual boot, using windows04:55
holsteinthen, use ubuntu to edit04:55
holsteinben_: you should be able to grab with OSX04:56
holsteinand edit with ubuntu04:56
ben_well, I've tried w/ OS X and it doesn't pop up that nothing connected04:56
ben_is there something I need to do in OS X?04:56
holsteininstall drivers?04:57
ben_only drivers are for samsung and only for windows04:58
ben_so I guess it's re-installing w/ a dual boot then04:59
holsteinmaybe they only support windows04:59
holsteinis there no way to just get the files off?04:59
holsteinlike a hard drive?04:59
holsteinwhen i plug in my camera, it just shows up as a drive, and i drag the files off05:00
holsteinthats not going to happen for you?05:00
ben_nope...it's mini-DV ...tapes05:00
holsteinyou could search around about agere and that device05:01
holsteinyou can email the list05:01
holsteinyou can try the kino/blender/whatever-else IRC channels05:01
holsteinben_: im an audio guy05:01
ben_holstein, hey thanks for your help though05:01
holsteinand theres seldom video folk in here05:01
holsteinyou should not take my word as the last and definitive05:02
holsteinthough, im sure those agere chipsets are awful...05:02
ben_holstein, ...no problem05:02
ben_later05:02
ajwillhi all, I was wondering, is it possible to install the gnome 3 package within ubuntu studio? or should I just install standard ubuntu and install the ubuntu studio package group?05:41

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