[04:25] how do I tell if ubuntu studio controls is installed? [04:26] how do I determine if ubuntu studio is installed? [04:27] ben_: you can go and search for them in whatever package manger you use [04:27] you shouldnt need them though [04:29] holstein, ...good idea... [04:30] holstein, I'm really just trying to find the Ubuntu Studio Controls so I can enable 1394 raw access [04:30] ben_: right, you dont need to do that anymore [04:30] whats the issue? [04:30] when troubleshooting my FW device, i run gksudo qjackctl to troubleshoot around the premissions errors [04:31] *then* i get it running as normal user [04:31] holstein, well, I run kino using gksudo kino and it runs for approx 700 MB and then stops...I read that I would need to run it as a non-root member [04:31] sudo kino results in don't have access to raw1394 [04:32] holstein, any ideas why it stops when I run as root...I'm trying to get video off my camcorder btw [04:32] ben_: firewire chipset? [04:32] kino version? [04:32] who knows [04:33] most of us here are pretty much audio guys [04:33] holstein, ...how come I can run it as a non-root? [04:33] i would hit the mailing list if you cant get an answer here [04:33] ben_: you want to run it as non-root [04:34] holstein, ..what does ubuntu studio install any ways? I'm using 11.10 and I did a search for ubuntu studio and it didn't show up although I had spent like 45 minutes waiting for ubuntu studio to be installed after running sudo apt-get install blah blah blah [04:34] theres a list [04:35] i thinks this is pretty current [04:35] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuStudio/PackageList [04:36] dang that list is massive...I was waiting like 45 minutes on an excellent connection [04:37] right [04:37] its a lot of stuff [04:37] and you dont need it [04:37] most of it is audio [04:38] holstein, ...so I installed that for nothing [04:38] wow [04:38] well, you dont need ubuntustudio-audio ;) [04:38] thats a pretty obvious one... its not going to hurt anything [04:38] but, its not going to help you right now either [04:39] i would run lspci and look at the FW chipset, and google around [04:39] there are a few that are really awful in linux [04:40] holstein, ...I just can't figure it out...I run it as root and it captures the video but then stops after like 2 minutes [04:40] right, thats what i would expect from a funky chipset [04:41] holstein, alright...so any idea how I solve this problem? [04:42] ben_: sure... check and see what chipset you have [04:42] holstein, how do I do that? [04:42] let me know what it is... and also google about its linux compatibility [04:43] then, you can consider getting a card, or some other meathod of moving that video over [04:43] like, just dragging the files off [04:43] like its a hard drive.. does it not suppor that? [04:43] you can open the terminal, and run 'lspci' [04:44] that will tell you the chipset for the FW (as well as other info) [04:45] http://pastebin.com/T5BVTQp7 [04:46] holstein, does that help? [04:47] FireWire (IEEE 1394): Agere Systems FW643 PCI Express1394b Controller (PHY/Link) (rev 07) [04:47] ^^ thats your firewire chipset [04:47] you can feel free to google around about it, but i have *never* had any luckk with an Agere [04:48] holstein, so what am I looking for exactly? [04:48] ben_: different hardware than what you have [04:49] preffereably texas instruments [04:49] OR, a way to move that file over with out just re-recording it [04:50] holstein, so your saying that I'd need to buy hardware..I see [04:50] ben_: im saying, i have never had luck with that particular chipset, and doing audio [04:50] i bought texas instruments chipsets [04:50] your mileage may vary [04:53] Well, what if I just use virtual box in windows and use some software to do that? [04:55] virtualbox shares firewire? [04:55] i dont think that passes through [04:55] how else can you grab that data? [04:55] holstein, nope it doesn't...I guess I will have to re-install OS X and dual boot Windows XP [04:55] you could grab that data in a dual boot, using windows [04:55] then, use ubuntu to edit [04:56] ben_: you should be able to grab with OSX [04:56] and edit with ubuntu [04:56] well, I've tried w/ OS X and it doesn't pop up that nothing connected [04:56] is there something I need to do in OS X? [04:57] install drivers? [04:58] only drivers are for samsung and only for windows [04:59] so I guess it's re-installing w/ a dual boot then [04:59] maybe they only support windows [04:59] is there no way to just get the files off? [04:59] like a hard drive? [05:00] when i plug in my camera, it just shows up as a drive, and i drag the files off [05:00] thats not going to happen for you? [05:00] nope...it's mini-DV ...tapes [05:01] you could search around about agere and that device [05:01] you can email the list [05:01] you can try the kino/blender/whatever-else IRC channels [05:01] ben_: im an audio guy [05:01] holstein, hey thanks for your help though [05:01] and theres seldom video folk in here [05:02] you should not take my word as the last and definitive [05:02] though, im sure those agere chipsets are awful... [05:02] holstein, ...no problem [05:02] later [05:41] hi all, I was wondering, is it possible to install the gnome 3 package within ubuntu studio? or should I just install standard ubuntu and install the ubuntu studio package group?