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gry1http://pastebin.mozilla.org/1416808 <-- will the usual 'apt-get update && apt-get upgrade' install unstable packages if I uncomment those lines?02:16
LjmChannelAnyone else having sound issues on Xubuntu 11.04?  Also, does anyone know how to fix not having any sound?03:17
gry1...03:28
holsteinLjmChannel: i can really just help troubleshoot it... if you havent applied all upgrades, do that first04:16
holsteinthen, you can try a kernel or alsa version one way or the other04:16
LjmChannelwhich upgrades?04:32
LjmChannelthe updates for Xubuntu or other upgrades?04:33
holsteinLjmChannel: the OS in general04:33
holsteinthe system upgrades... whatever they are... sudo apt-get update, sudo apt-get upgrade for example04:34
LjmChannelthe sudo apt-get update I have tried, I'll try sudo apt-get upgrade right now04:34
LjmChannel0 new 0 updated04:35
holsteinLjmChannel: you dont have to do it that way, you can use the gui, or synaptic, or whatever, but you need to run both parts04:36
LjmChannelso run update and upgrade?04:36
LjmChannelstill no sound04:40
holsteinLjmChannel: it wont be a 'magic command' that just works.. you'll have to troubleshoot, and *maybe* get sound going04:41
LjmChannelyeah, I figured on that.04:41
holsteinfor me, i usually just try a few live CD's... such as the last LTS (10.04) and the upcoming one04:42
holsteinthat at least gives me some information about what will work04:42
LjmChanneldo you know the command for the list that has your sound card on it?  I had it earlier and forgot to save it.04:43
holsteinLjmChannel: lspci, or lsusb04:44
holsteinhowever... the ones you want are...04:44
holsteinaplay -l04:44
holsteinarecord -l04:44
holsteinhttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting04:45
LjmChannelI have that one bookmarked.  I found it just before I had to run to the store, hence why I didn't reply sooner. lol04:46
LjmChannelLive [SB Live! Value [CT4871]], device 2: emu10k1 <<<< That's what it says I have so it is reading it.  Just no sound. lol04:47
holsteinif you see something in...04:48
holsteinaplay -l04:48
holsteinthen, you are *very* likely to get sound04:48
holsteindo you?04:48
LjmChannelno sound04:50
LjmChannelwhat I posted above is what I see in there but there's no sound coming from my speakers.04:51
holsteinLjmChannel: open a terminal and run this command04:51
holsteinaplay -l04:51
holsteindoes it list *anything* ?04:51
holsteinyou see sb live?04:52
holsteinthat line you posted?04:52
LjmChannelyes04:52
holsteinif so... open a terminal, and run04:52
holsteinalsamixer04:52
holsteingently tweak *everything*04:52
holsteindont trust the labels04:52
holsteinyou can hit the F5 key to show all settings04:52
holsteinmeke sure you have the speakers hooked up and all that04:53
LjmChannelopen alsamixer and it shows this.. Card: Intel 82801BA-ICH204:54
LjmChannelcould be the issue04:54
LjmChannelI'm going to try something really quick.  I will be back in a minute.  Thank you for your help holstein05:15
vithoshow do i change the graphical login screen's resolution?06:44
vithosnm i finally found it06:51
_Pete_where and how?06:53
vithoshttp://askubuntu.com/questions/73804/wrong-login-screen-resolution06:59
_Pete_ok thx06:59
vithostested working. unfortunately the background image gets tiled instead of stretched but i'm not going to bother correcting that06:59
pacy__nice thanks vithos07:03
vithosnp :)07:04
fazcan anybody increase the resolution of ubuntu>>> 1240x1024 is not on the list?????????09:26
Kurdistanhi is it possible to move the top panel down?10:43
KurdistanI know it is possible to create one.10:43
Kurdistanbut is it possible to move one down?10:43
tosmohi, where can i put a permanent modeline for my monitor? i know how to do it ad-hoc with xrandr, but i want to have it permanent (for some reason the monitor doesn't correctly report its native resolution)10:49
tosmoback in the good old times there would have been a monitor section in XF86Config...10:49
tosmo;)10:49
TheSheepKurdistan: yes, just unlock it and drag it by the handles10:54
TheSheeptosmo: xorg.conf still works if you create it10:54
KurdistanTheSheep, thx. it was so simple. haha. :P10:55
tosmodo i then have to roll the whole series of monitor, device, screen, input section?10:55
tosmoor is there a way that i just "augment" what xorg recognizes automatically10:56
TheSheep!xorg.conf11:01
ubottuThe X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/Resolution11:01
TheSheeptosmo: it will generate it for you11:01
TheSheeptosmo: also, you only put in there the sections that you want overriden11:02
tosmoTheSheep: problem seems to be that the monitor isn't recognized at all. see first lines in http://pastebin.com/vxFB0qQW11:15
tosmois there a point in defining a Monitor section "<default monitor>" or wouldn't that be read (would somehow make sense for "default")11:16
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cYmenmy machine does not shut down when I use halt, it halts but it does not turn off14:28
cYmenany ideas how to fix this?14:28
TheSheepcYmen: force acpi to on14:35
TheSheep!acpi14:35
cYmenah14:35
TheSheep!boot14:35
ubottuBoot options: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions - To add/remove startup services, you can use the package 'bum', or update-rc.d - To add your own startup scripts, use /etc/rc.local - See also !grub and !dualboot - Making a boot floppy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto/BootFloppy - Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SmartBootManagerHowto14:35
cYmenit works with shutdown -P14:35
TheSheepcYmen: see the first link14:35
SysiI usually use "poweroff"14:35
cYmendidnt know about that14:37
cYmenusually halt works14:37
cYmenthanks14:39
cYmenTheSheep: I'll just go with the simple working version...14:39
evo360bhphow do I set root user, I need to copy some files into the openoffice directory.16:15
Sysiwhy do you need to do that?16:16
Sysithere might be nicer way to achieve what you need16:16
evo360bhpim changing the splash screen for it16:17
evo360bhphave to copy some png's16:17
PiciUse sudo,.16:17
Sysigksudo thunar16:17
evo360bhpthis runs file manager with elevated priviledges16:18
Sysiyup16:18
evo360bhpwill this also work with krusader?16:18
evo360bhpI like the dual pane ;)16:18
Sysishould16:19
evo360bhpok will give it a try thnx all16:19
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musahi, i'm trying to install xubuntu 11.10 in a laptop with a graphic card "Silicon Motion LynxEM+   SM712" but after booting livecd i get blanl screen. I have used in boot vga=79116:41
musaWhich option must i enter for my graphic card?16:41
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pitlimitI love love love the look of xubuntu over unity... the only problem is that it is extremely sluggish17:05
pitlimitNon-responsive17:05
pitlimitCan anyone tell me how I might solve this problem?17:05
pitlimitI know I can use xfce, but... it's not as nice looking17:05
musahi, i'm trying to install xubuntu 11.10 in a laptop with a graphic card "Silicon Motion LynxEM+   SM712" but after booting livecd i get blanl screen. I have used in boot vga=79117:09
musaWhich option must i enter for my graphic card?17:09
mongytry 'xforcevesa'17:12
mongypitlimit,  if you want themes and wallpapers look at xfce-look.org and also gnome-look.org, you can use gtk2/3 themes as far as the appearance goes, but the window manager uses xfwm, unless you install metacity or compiz/emerald17:14
pitlimiti've decided to go back to unity17:14
pitlimitit just ... works17:14
pitlimitas much as i hate it :)17:14
mongyxubuntu 'just works'17:15
pitlimitmongy not for me17:15
pitlimiti like the look and feel of xubuntu a LOT17:15
pitlimitbut it keeps freezing17:15
mongypitlimit, maybe we can resolve it.17:15
pitlimiti would love that17:15
pitlimitwhen i right click on the desktop nothing happens17:15
mongyit was unity freezing that pushed me to xfce :)17:15
pitlimitand then everything freezes17:15
pitlimiti hate unity but i also don't want to deal with compatibility issues17:16
mongydoes middle clcking desktop work?17:16
pitlimitwhat is a middle click?17:16
mongyscrollwheel button17:16
pitlimitOh, I don't have that on my laptop17:16
pitlimitWhen I try to open home, I get failed to open directory17:17
mongyhow did you install it17:17
pitlimitrepository17:17
mongyafter installing unity? so its not a fresh install ?17:18
pitlimitno I've had ubuntu for a while now17:18
pitlimitapparently upon an upgrade unity was just... there17:18
mongyI avoid upgrades at all costs.. but not everyone will/can I guess.17:19
pitlimiteh I should have opted for the LTS version17:19
pitlimittoo late17:19
mongyuse the xubuntu livecd and try it out see if it freezes.17:19
pitlimithm17:19
pitlimitmy laptop took some ... very special modifications to make ubuntu to work properly17:20
pitlimitI'm thinking I won't go the livecd route17:20
pitlimitit's not freezing now17:20
pitlimitthe only thing not seeming to work properly is the Home folder17:21
pitlimitit won't open my home17:21
mongyfrom a run prompt or shell, run exo-open --launch FileManager %u17:23
pitlimitxubuntu  has the look / feel i want :)17:24
pitlimitOkay, I'll try thatg17:24
pitlimitwhat is the %u17:25
mongyuser variable17:26
mongymeans, you17:26
pitlimiti typed this exactly: "exo-open --launch FileManager %u"17:26
pitlimitI got:17:26
pitlimitFailed to open "%u". Error stating file "...." No such file or directory17:26
pitlimit.... is my home dir concatenated with /%u17:26
mongyjust type 'thunar' then17:26
pitlimitk17:27
pitlimitit pulled up my home17:27
pitlimitdirectory17:27
pitlimitbut now everything is sluggish again17:27
xubuntu784hi !17:28
mongyso, from your app menu - accessories, left click hold File Manager and drag to desktop, then right click it and edit launcher, and replace exo-open etc with thunar17:28
mongyI really don't see what could be making it sluggish, xubuntu is a lot lighter on resources than unity.17:28
pitlimitshoudl I mark run in terminal17:30
pitlimitaw yay that fixed it!17:30
mongyyou could run it from a terminal to see any error messages17:30
pitlimitI think that was why it was sluggish17:30
pitlimitIt was searching17:30
pitlimitWhere can I find my keyboard shortcuts?17:30
pitlimitI've been looking forever17:31
mongyits not a terminal program, I dont see how that would fix it, but if it did .. hmm ok17:31
pitlimitNo, that did not17:31
pitlimitchanging it to thunar did17:31
Sysipitlimit: settings -> keyboard and settings -> window manager17:31
pitlimitI don't have keyboard and settings17:31
pitlimitI do have Keyboard Input Methods17:32
pitlimitnm17:32
pitlimitIf I go to settings after settings, we're good17:32
pitlimitI'm very happy with what I've seen so far17:32
pitlimitThe clean interface and non-bulky feel ... are great17:33
pitlimitGnome without Unity was very bulky17:33
pitlimitPlus, Unity was messing things up even when you logged in with classic on 11.0417:33
pitlimitoops 11.1017:34
pitlimitI want to create a shortcut to terminal... is the program xfterm4?17:37
pitlimitI also see xterm and x-terminal-emulator17:37
Sysixfce4-terminal if you got it installed17:39
pitlimitWait... I need to install terminal?17:39
pitlimitsorry - I've always just used gnome17:39
pitlimitI don't really understand all of this stuff17:39
mongypitlimit, shortcut is in accessories17:39
pitlimitmongy: Yes, I found it17:40
pitlimitbut I need to enter a Command and I'm not sure which one is correct17:40
pitlimitIs it xfterm4?17:40
mongyas sysi said17:40
pitlimitk17:41
pitlimitthanks - that worked17:41
pitlimitthanks for your help mongy  - you saved me from unity hell17:43
logjamcould some one tell me How to Enable Automatic Login in xbutnu after install17:55
musamongy: I have tried to boot with 'xforcevesa' and when start X i get blank screen17:55
Sysilogjam: see alternative way, http://askubuntu.com/questions/51086/how-do-i-enable-auto-login-with-lightdm17:56
Sysilogjam: gksudo leafpad /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf17:56
logjamSysi: thanks will take a look :)17:57
PaimunAttention shoppers, Railworks 3 Deluxe is on sale for $3.99 on Steam in Aisle 5 right now!18:25
PiciPaimun: I think you're in the wrong channel for that.18:26
Paimunactually I just did /allchan18:27
PaimunI apologize >_>18:27
logjamSysi: the alternative works a treat - thank you.18:41
mongyAnyone help me with display power management.  I can use power settings to blank then suspend screen after x minutes but if I lock the screen it just goes blank with power being fed to it continuously regardless what settings I choose.  I need it to blank/power off when I lock it20:51
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joseph^hey is there a button you press or something to make it change between one open application window to another when they're overlapping, or is this a bug?21:03
joseph^and i dont mean to sound rude, if i may be perceived that way.21:04
holsteinjoseph^: alt+tab? is that what you are looking for?21:09
joseph^not quite21:09
joseph^its more of an issue when i have two overlap....altho that would work21:09
holsteinjoseph^: i find i have focus issues21:09
joseph^i'd rather be able to click the mouse on one window bar21:09
joseph^yes focus, is that a bug?21:10
joseph^is there a button i can presss?21:10
holsteinjoseph^: not sure actually21:10
joseph^ok21:10
holsteinim leaning towards it being something im just not used to21:10
joseph^ok i understand21:10
holsteinbut its quite un-natural21:10
joseph^hopefully there will be a button to switch focus i guess21:10
joseph^im not sure if its new or what, thanks for understanding21:10
mongymiddle button titlebar brings up windows behind current, if that helps?21:15
mongyalso, if you have it enabled, middle click desktop will show list of apps running on each workspace, you can use that to switch21:16
holsteinmongy: joe has left :/21:17
mongydoh21:17
mongydamn my hidden quits parts joins21:17
mongyoh, awesome.. I can have my popup directory quicklaunch icon again I had in the old kde days.21:21
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LjmChannelholstein, still no luck with my SB Live sound on Xubuntu.  Now running Xubuntu 11.1023:34
holsteinLjmChannel: ?23:36
holsteinlike, its working in 11.10?23:36
holsteinand wasnt before?23:36
LjmChannelno, it's not working in 11.10 and it wasn't working before in 11.0423:36
holsteinanyways.. i would try ubuntu 10.04 live, and also ubuntu 12.04, as well as some other live CD's and see what kernel/alsa version works23:36
holsteinyou can try the 11.04 version live23:37
holsteinyou can try other avenues too, since this is not xubuntu related specifically23:37
holsteinyou should run aplay -l and google around for a bug relating to that hardware and 11.1023:37
LjmChannelit wasn't working in 11.04 either and I still had no sound when I was running 10.04 before upgrading.23:38
holsteinLjmChannel: OK, so you can search for a bug relating to your hardware and *any* version of ubuntu23:38
holsteini usually have a knoppix live CD around for this kind of thing23:39
holsteini would reference http://www.alsa-project.org/main/index.php/Matrix:Vendor-Creative_Labs as well23:50
holsteinif its a desktop, just get a sound card that works... its just too easy now to find cheap/free audio cards23:51
holsteinand nothing about *any* SB card would make me lose any sleep over disabling or removing it23:51
holsteinheres someone else with your issue http://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?f=49&t=3012023:54

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