[02:16] <gry1> http://pastebin.mozilla.org/1416808 <-- will the usual 'apt-get update && apt-get upgrade' install unstable packages if I uncomment those lines?
[03:17] <LjmChannel> Anyone else having sound issues on Xubuntu 11.04?  Also, does anyone know how to fix not having any sound?
[03:28] <gry1> ...
[04:16] <holstein> LjmChannel: i can really just help troubleshoot it... if you havent applied all upgrades, do that first
[04:16] <holstein> then, you can try a kernel or alsa version one way or the other
[04:32] <LjmChannel> which upgrades?
[04:33] <LjmChannel> the updates for Xubuntu or other upgrades?
[04:33] <holstein> LjmChannel: the OS in general
[04:34] <holstein> the system upgrades... whatever they are... sudo apt-get update, sudo apt-get upgrade for example
[04:34] <LjmChannel> the sudo apt-get update I have tried, I'll try sudo apt-get upgrade right now
[04:35] <LjmChannel> 0 new 0 updated
[04:36] <holstein> LjmChannel: you dont have to do it that way, you can use the gui, or synaptic, or whatever, but you need to run both parts
[04:36] <LjmChannel> so run update and upgrade?
[04:40] <LjmChannel> still no sound
[04:41] <holstein> LjmChannel: it wont be a 'magic command' that just works.. you'll have to troubleshoot, and *maybe* get sound going
[04:41] <LjmChannel> yeah, I figured on that.
[04:42] <holstein> for me, i usually just try a few live CD's... such as the last LTS (10.04) and the upcoming one
[04:42] <holstein> that at least gives me some information about what will work
[04:43] <LjmChannel> do you know the command for the list that has your sound card on it?  I had it earlier and forgot to save it.
[04:44] <holstein> LjmChannel: lspci, or lsusb
[04:44] <holstein> however... the ones you want are...
[04:44] <holstein> aplay -l
[04:44] <holstein> arecord -l
[04:45] <holstein> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting
[04:46] <LjmChannel> I have that one bookmarked.  I found it just before I had to run to the store, hence why I didn't reply sooner. lol
[04:47] <LjmChannel> Live [SB Live! Value [CT4871]], device 2: emu10k1 <<<< That's what it says I have so it is reading it.  Just no sound. lol
[04:48] <holstein> if you see something in...
[04:48] <holstein> aplay -l
[04:48] <holstein> then, you are *very* likely to get sound
[04:48] <holstein> do you?
[04:50] <LjmChannel> no sound
[04:51] <LjmChannel> what I posted above is what I see in there but there's no sound coming from my speakers.
[04:51] <holstein> LjmChannel: open a terminal and run this command
[04:51] <holstein> aplay -l
[04:51] <holstein> does it list *anything* ?
[04:52] <holstein> you see sb live?
[04:52] <holstein> that line you posted?
[04:52] <LjmChannel> yes
[04:52] <holstein> if so... open a terminal, and run
[04:52] <holstein> alsamixer
[04:52] <holstein> gently tweak *everything*
[04:52] <holstein> dont trust the labels
[04:52] <holstein> you can hit the F5 key to show all settings
[04:53] <holstein> meke sure you have the speakers hooked up and all that
[04:54] <LjmChannel> open alsamixer and it shows this.. Card: Intel 82801BA-ICH2
[04:54] <LjmChannel> could be the issue
[05:15] <LjmChannel> I'm going to try something really quick.  I will be back in a minute.  Thank you for your help holstein
[06:44] <vithos> how do i change the graphical login screen's resolution?
[06:51] <vithos> nm i finally found it
[06:53] <_Pete_> where and how?
[06:59] <vithos> http://askubuntu.com/questions/73804/wrong-login-screen-resolution
[06:59] <_Pete_> ok thx
[06:59] <vithos> tested working. unfortunately the background image gets tiled instead of stretched but i'm not going to bother correcting that
[07:03] <pacy__> nice thanks vithos
[07:04] <vithos> np :)
[09:26] <faz> can anybody increase the resolution of ubuntu>>> 1240x1024 is not on the list?????????
[10:43] <Kurdistan> hi is it possible to move the top panel down?
[10:43] <Kurdistan> I know it is possible to create one.
[10:43] <Kurdistan> but is it possible to move one down?
[10:49] <tosmo> hi, where can i put a permanent modeline for my monitor? i know how to do it ad-hoc with xrandr, but i want to have it permanent (for some reason the monitor doesn't correctly report its native resolution)
[10:49] <tosmo> back in the good old times there would have been a monitor section in XF86Config...
[10:49] <tosmo> ;)
[10:54] <TheSheep> Kurdistan: yes, just unlock it and drag it by the handles
[10:54] <TheSheep> tosmo: xorg.conf still works if you create it
[10:55] <Kurdistan> TheSheep, thx. it was so simple. haha. :P
[10:55] <tosmo> do i then have to roll the whole series of monitor, device, screen, input section?
[10:56] <tosmo> or is there a way that i just "augment" what xorg recognizes automatically
[11:01] <TheSheep> !xorg.conf
[11:01] <TheSheep> tosmo: it will generate it for you
[11:02] <TheSheep> tosmo: also, you only put in there the sections that you want overriden
[11:15] <tosmo> TheSheep: problem seems to be that the monitor isn't recognized at all. see first lines in http://pastebin.com/vxFB0qQW
[11:16] <tosmo> is there a point in defining a Monitor section "<default monitor>" or wouldn't that be read (would somehow make sense for "default")
[14:28] <cYmen> my machine does not shut down when I use halt, it halts but it does not turn off
[14:28] <cYmen> any ideas how to fix this?
[14:35] <TheSheep> cYmen: force acpi to on
[14:35] <TheSheep> !acpi
[14:35] <cYmen> ah
[14:35] <TheSheep> !boot
[14:35] <cYmen> it works with shutdown -P
[14:35] <TheSheep> cYmen: see the first link
[14:35] <Sysi> I usually use "poweroff"
[14:37] <cYmen> didnt know about that
[14:37] <cYmen> usually halt works
[14:39] <cYmen> thanks
[14:39] <cYmen> TheSheep: I'll just go with the simple working version...
[16:15] <evo360bhp> how do I set root user, I need to copy some files into the openoffice directory.
[16:16] <Sysi> why do you need to do that?
[16:16] <Sysi> there might be nicer way to achieve what you need
[16:17] <evo360bhp> im changing the splash screen for it
[16:17] <evo360bhp> have to copy some png's
[16:17] <Pici> Use sudo,.
[16:17] <Sysi> gksudo thunar
[16:18] <evo360bhp> this runs file manager with elevated priviledges
[16:18] <Sysi> yup
[16:18] <evo360bhp> will this also work with krusader?
[16:18] <evo360bhp> I like the dual pane ;)
[16:19] <Sysi> should
[16:19] <evo360bhp> ok will give it a try thnx all
[16:41] <musa> hi, i'm trying to install xubuntu 11.10 in a laptop with a graphic card "Silicon Motion LynxEM+   SM712" but after booting livecd i get blanl screen. I have used in boot vga=791
[16:41] <musa> Which option must i enter for my graphic card?
[17:05] <pitlimit> I love love love the look of xubuntu over unity... the only problem is that it is extremely sluggish
[17:05] <pitlimit> Non-responsive
[17:05] <pitlimit> Can anyone tell me how I might solve this problem?
[17:05] <pitlimit> I know I can use xfce, but... it's not as nice looking
[17:09] <musa> hi, i'm trying to install xubuntu 11.10 in a laptop with a graphic card "Silicon Motion LynxEM+   SM712" but after booting livecd i get blanl screen. I have used in boot vga=791
[17:09] <musa> Which option must i enter for my graphic card?
[17:12] <mongy> try 'xforcevesa'
[17:14] <mongy> pitlimit,  if you want themes and wallpapers look at xfce-look.org and also gnome-look.org, you can use gtk2/3 themes as far as the appearance goes, but the window manager uses xfwm, unless you install metacity or compiz/emerald
[17:14] <pitlimit> i've decided to go back to unity
[17:14] <pitlimit> it just ... works
[17:14] <pitlimit> as much as i hate it :)
[17:15] <mongy> xubuntu 'just works'
[17:15] <pitlimit> mongy not for me
[17:15] <pitlimit> i like the look and feel of xubuntu a LOT
[17:15] <pitlimit> but it keeps freezing
[17:15] <mongy> pitlimit, maybe we can resolve it.
[17:15] <pitlimit> i would love that
[17:15] <pitlimit> when i right click on the desktop nothing happens
[17:15] <mongy> it was unity freezing that pushed me to xfce :)
[17:15] <pitlimit> and then everything freezes
[17:16] <pitlimit> i hate unity but i also don't want to deal with compatibility issues
[17:16] <mongy> does middle clcking desktop work?
[17:16] <pitlimit> what is a middle click?
[17:16] <mongy> scrollwheel button
[17:16] <pitlimit> Oh, I don't have that on my laptop
[17:17] <pitlimit> When I try to open home, I get failed to open directory
[17:17] <mongy> how did you install it
[17:17] <pitlimit> repository
[17:18] <mongy> after installing unity? so its not a fresh install ?
[17:18] <pitlimit> no I've had ubuntu for a while now
[17:18] <pitlimit> apparently upon an upgrade unity was just... there
[17:19] <mongy> I avoid upgrades at all costs.. but not everyone will/can I guess.
[17:19] <pitlimit> eh I should have opted for the LTS version
[17:19] <pitlimit> too late
[17:19] <mongy> use the xubuntu livecd and try it out see if it freezes.
[17:19] <pitlimit> hm
[17:20] <pitlimit> my laptop took some ... very special modifications to make ubuntu to work properly
[17:20] <pitlimit> I'm thinking I won't go the livecd route
[17:20] <pitlimit> it's not freezing now
[17:21] <pitlimit> the only thing not seeming to work properly is the Home folder
[17:21] <pitlimit> it won't open my home
[17:23] <mongy> from a run prompt or shell, run exo-open --launch FileManager %u
[17:24] <pitlimit> xubuntu  has the look / feel i want :)
[17:24] <pitlimit> Okay, I'll try thatg
[17:25] <pitlimit> what is the %u
[17:26] <mongy> user variable
[17:26] <mongy> means, you
[17:26] <pitlimit> i typed this exactly: "exo-open --launch FileManager %u"
[17:26] <pitlimit> I got:
[17:26] <pitlimit> Failed to open "%u". Error stating file "...." No such file or directory
[17:26] <pitlimit> .... is my home dir concatenated with /%u
[17:26] <mongy> just type 'thunar' then
[17:27] <pitlimit> k
[17:27] <pitlimit> it pulled up my home
[17:27] <pitlimit> directory
[17:27] <pitlimit> but now everything is sluggish again
[17:28] <xubuntu784> hi !
[17:28] <mongy> so, from your app menu - accessories, left click hold File Manager and drag to desktop, then right click it and edit launcher, and replace exo-open etc with thunar
[17:28] <mongy> I really don't see what could be making it sluggish, xubuntu is a lot lighter on resources than unity.
[17:30] <pitlimit> shoudl I mark run in terminal
[17:30] <pitlimit> aw yay that fixed it!
[17:30] <mongy> you could run it from a terminal to see any error messages
[17:30] <pitlimit> I think that was why it was sluggish
[17:30] <pitlimit> It was searching
[17:30] <pitlimit> Where can I find my keyboard shortcuts?
[17:31] <pitlimit> I've been looking forever
[17:31] <mongy> its not a terminal program, I dont see how that would fix it, but if it did .. hmm ok
[17:31] <pitlimit> No, that did not
[17:31] <pitlimit> changing it to thunar did
[17:31] <Sysi> pitlimit: settings -> keyboard and settings -> window manager
[17:31] <pitlimit> I don't have keyboard and settings
[17:32] <pitlimit> I do have Keyboard Input Methods
[17:32] <pitlimit> nm
[17:32] <pitlimit> If I go to settings after settings, we're good
[17:32] <pitlimit> I'm very happy with what I've seen so far
[17:33] <pitlimit> The clean interface and non-bulky feel ... are great
[17:33] <pitlimit> Gnome without Unity was very bulky
[17:33] <pitlimit> Plus, Unity was messing things up even when you logged in with classic on 11.04
[17:34] <pitlimit> oops 11.10
[17:37] <pitlimit> I want to create a shortcut to terminal... is the program xfterm4?
[17:37] <pitlimit> I also see xterm and x-terminal-emulator
[17:39] <Sysi> xfce4-terminal if you got it installed
[17:39] <pitlimit> Wait... I need to install terminal?
[17:39] <pitlimit> sorry - I've always just used gnome
[17:39] <pitlimit> I don't really understand all of this stuff
[17:39] <mongy> pitlimit, shortcut is in accessories
[17:40] <pitlimit> mongy: Yes, I found it
[17:40] <pitlimit> but I need to enter a Command and I'm not sure which one is correct
[17:40] <pitlimit> Is it xfterm4?
[17:40] <mongy> as sysi said
[17:41] <pitlimit> k
[17:41] <pitlimit> thanks - that worked
[17:43] <pitlimit> thanks for your help mongy  - you saved me from unity hell
[17:55] <logjam> could some one tell me How to Enable Automatic Login in xbutnu after install
[17:55] <musa> mongy: I have tried to boot with 'xforcevesa' and when start X i get blank screen
[17:56] <Sysi> logjam: see alternative way, http://askubuntu.com/questions/51086/how-do-i-enable-auto-login-with-lightdm
[17:56] <Sysi> logjam: gksudo leafpad /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf
[17:57] <logjam> Sysi: thanks will take a look :)
[18:25] <Paimun> Attention shoppers, Railworks 3 Deluxe is on sale for $3.99 on Steam in Aisle 5 right now!
[18:26] <Pici> Paimun: I think you're in the wrong channel for that.
[18:27] <Paimun> actually I just did /allchan
[18:27] <Paimun> I apologize >_>
[18:41] <logjam> Sysi: the alternative works a treat - thank you.
[20:51] <mongy> Anyone help me with display power management.  I can use power settings to blank then suspend screen after x minutes but if I lock the screen it just goes blank with power being fed to it continuously regardless what settings I choose.  I need it to blank/power off when I lock it
[21:03] <joseph^> hey is there a button you press or something to make it change between one open application window to another when they're overlapping, or is this a bug?
[21:04] <joseph^> and i dont mean to sound rude, if i may be perceived that way.
[21:09] <holstein> joseph^: alt+tab? is that what you are looking for?
[21:09] <joseph^> not quite
[21:09] <joseph^> its more of an issue when i have two overlap....altho that would work
[21:09] <holstein> joseph^: i find i have focus issues
[21:09] <joseph^> i'd rather be able to click the mouse on one window bar
[21:10] <joseph^> yes focus, is that a bug?
[21:10] <joseph^> is there a button i can presss?
[21:10] <holstein> joseph^: not sure actually
[21:10] <joseph^> ok
[21:10] <holstein> im leaning towards it being something im just not used to
[21:10] <joseph^> ok i understand
[21:10] <holstein> but its quite un-natural
[21:10] <joseph^> hopefully there will be a button to switch focus i guess
[21:10] <joseph^> im not sure if its new or what, thanks for understanding
[21:15] <mongy> middle button titlebar brings up windows behind current, if that helps?
[21:16] <mongy> also, if you have it enabled, middle click desktop will show list of apps running on each workspace, you can use that to switch
[21:17] <holstein> mongy: joe has left :/
[21:17] <mongy> doh
[21:17] <mongy> damn my hidden quits parts joins
[21:21] <mongy> oh, awesome.. I can have my popup directory quicklaunch icon again I had in the old kde days.
[23:34] <LjmChannel> holstein, still no luck with my SB Live sound on Xubuntu.  Now running Xubuntu 11.10
[23:36] <holstein> LjmChannel: ?
[23:36] <holstein> like, its working in 11.10?
[23:36] <holstein> and wasnt before?
[23:36] <LjmChannel> no, it's not working in 11.10 and it wasn't working before in 11.04
[23:36] <holstein> anyways.. i would try ubuntu 10.04 live, and also ubuntu 12.04, as well as some other live CD's and see what kernel/alsa version works
[23:37] <holstein> you can try the 11.04 version live
[23:37] <holstein> you can try other avenues too, since this is not xubuntu related specifically
[23:37] <holstein> you should run aplay -l and google around for a bug relating to that hardware and 11.10
[23:38] <LjmChannel> it wasn't working in 11.04 either and I still had no sound when I was running 10.04 before upgrading.
[23:38] <holstein> LjmChannel: OK, so you can search for a bug relating to your hardware and *any* version of ubuntu
[23:39] <holstein> i usually have a knoppix live CD around for this kind of thing
[23:50] <holstein> i would reference http://www.alsa-project.org/main/index.php/Matrix:Vendor-Creative_Labs as well
[23:51] <holstein> if its a desktop, just get a sound card that works... its just too easy now to find cheap/free audio cards
[23:51] <holstein> and nothing about *any* SB card would make me lose any sleep over disabling or removing it
[23:54] <holstein> heres someone else with your issue http://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?f=49&t=30120