[00:00] <Riddell> ooh I'm old!
[01:09] <Riddell> JontheEchidna: happy riddellmas :)
[01:10] <JontheEchidna> :)
[02:15] <nigelb> Riddell: Happy Birthday! :-)
[04:56] <txwikinger> Do we have a good introductory screencast/video for Kubuntu 11.10?
[04:58] <ybit> txwikinger: not that i'm aware of
[04:59] <txwikinger> too bad
[04:59]  * ybit is needing a build env
[04:59]  * ybit googles for kubuntu specific instructions
[04:59] <ybit> brb
[05:00] <ybit> what's a ninjua build environment...
[05:01] <ybit> how does it differ from a typical kde build env?
[05:01] <ybit> iirc from earlier reading kubuntu ninjas are your software devs right...
[05:02] <ybit> guessing i'm needing someone or a few people here to mentor me in starting development on kubuntu
[05:03] <ybit> https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Ninjas/BuildEnvironment
[05:03] <ybit> i think this is the appropriate documentation...
[05:04] <ybit> and i'm guessing this is the appropriate documentation for pbuildre..
[05:04] <ybit> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PbuilderHowto
[05:07] <ybit> just did sudo pbuilder create
[05:07] <ybit> i'm assuming it's going to create a directory of stuff
[05:07] <ybit> sudo pbuilder create --debootstrapopts --variant=buildd
[05:07] <ybit> wish i would have done that... didn't see it until after the command was sent
[05:07] <ybit> er... if it's a directory of stuff... then that would be preferred... since i can easily rm -rf
[05:08] <ybit> we'll see i suppose
[05:08] <ybit> hmm
[05:09] <ybit> wonder where everything is being installed... not seeing anything in the dir i executed the command
[05:09]  * ybit wonders...
[05:10] <ybit> can i execute the --variant=buildd stuff after this with no problems...
[05:31] <ybit> guess i need a mentor fo kubuntu development
[05:31] <ybit> for
[05:35] <ybit> not sure if i should build grab kubuntu-dev-tools from bzr or not
[05:35] <ybit> already have it installed via apt
[05:37] <ybit> https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Ninjas/BuildEnvironment
[05:37] <ybit> that didn't really help me get a kde dev environment going...
[05:37] <ybit> it's more specific to kubuntu development...
[05:37] <ybit> back to http://techbase.kde.org/Development/Git
[11:02] <Quintasan> Riddell: Happy BDay!
[11:03] <Quintasan> apachelogger: How is my maliit-framework review?
[11:04] <Quintasan> ybit: If you want to develop for KDE my suggestion is to get KDE running from master
[11:05] <Quintasan> You can use our Project Neon packages or compile it by yourself
[12:29] <yofel_> gmorning
[12:29] <yofel> happy birthday Riddell 
[12:30] <Riddell> thanks yofel, Quintasan  :)
[12:34] <yofel> question about kubuntu_knetattach_use_sftp.diff from kde-runtime (doesn't apply anymore). It does:
[12:34] <yofel> -         url.setProtocol("fish");
[12:34] <yofel> +         url.setProtocol("sftp");
[12:35] <yofel> upstream now changed that into url.setProtocol(_protocolText->currentText()); with commit "Allow the user to choose sftp or fish on knetattach"
[12:35] <yofel> should the patch still hardcode sftp?
[12:35] <yofel> or just drop the patch?
[13:00]  * yofel disabled it for now
[13:39] <bambee> Riddell: Hi, "bon anniversaire !!!!"  ;D
[13:43] <CIA-48> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kde-runtime] Philip Muškovac * 254 * debian/ (7 files in 2 dirs) (log message trimmed)
[13:43] <CIA-48> * New upstream release candidate - disable kubuntu_knetattach_use_sftp.diff,
[13:43] <CIA-48> doesn't apply - adapt kubuntu_strigi_ram_detection.diff for upstream changes -
[13:44] <yofel> someone please QA that ^, esp. if the strigi patch still does what it's supposed to do, my c++ skills are a bit rusty
[13:46] <CIA-48> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kdepim-runtime] Philip Muškovac * 93 * debian/ (changelog control not-installed) * New upstream release candidate * Correctly refresh not-installed
[13:53] <who_me> hmph, amarok using 400MB+, is that normal ?
[13:56] <yofel> amarok 2.4.3 works fine here
[13:56] <yofel> someone needs to package 2.5
[13:56] <who_me> amarok 2.5 from ppa here
[13:56] <yofel> that's 2.4.90 then
[13:57] <who_me> ugh, it says 2.5, so idk
[13:58] <yofel> ah no, 2.5.0 is in backports actually
[13:58] <yofel> my fault
[13:59] <who_me> i wonder if it has anything to do with fetching lyrics and stuff
[14:00] <who_me> though, on a fast connection with no caps there is no point in caching such things
[14:00] <CIA-48> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kde-baseapps] Philip Muškovac * 200 * debian/ (changelog control) New upstream release candidate
[14:02] <yofel> Riddell: any reason amarok 2.5 isn't in precise other that you didn't have time for it?
[14:03] <CIA-48> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/libkdcraw] Philip Muškovac * 24 * debian/ (changelog control) New upstream release candidate
[14:05] <who_me> right, this is awesome. I disabled the lyrics fetching plugin, now adding/replacing a whole collection in the playlist does not work
[14:06] <letrec> ScottK: it seems like the fix we talked about doesn't resolve the issue
[14:06] <letrec> ScottK: is there any way to debug the leak? maybe to install some debug symbols etc?
[14:07] <CIA-48> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/libkipi] Philip Muškovac * 25 * debian/ (changelog control) New upstream release candidate
[14:08] <CIA-48> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/libkdeedu] Philip Muškovac * 21 * debian/ (changelog control) New upstream release candidate
[14:10] <CIA-48> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/libkexiv2] Philip Muškovac * 26 * debian/ (changelog control) New upstream release candidate
[14:12] <who_me> think it's time for a ppa-purge :/
[14:13] <CIA-48> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/libksane] Philip Muškovac * 18 * debian/ (changelog control) New upstream release candidate
[14:13] <who_me> now the plasmoid that was showing my desktop folder, does not start. I have a bunch of tracks I was trying to add to amarok showing in workspace no. 2. This is fudged :)
[14:17] <who_me> uh-uh, so the "different widgets for each desktop" option was the culprit
[14:36] <CIA-48> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/smokekde] Philip Muškovac * 13 * debian/changelog New upstream release candidate
[16:10] <CIA-48> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kde-workspace] Philip Muškovac * 599 * debian/ (10 files) (log message trimmed)
[16:10] <CIA-48> * New upstream release candidate - bump ABI of libkworkspace4 - remove missing
[16:10] <CIA-48> headers from kde-workspace-dev.install - Move horos kdm theme from kdm to
[16:11] <CIA-48> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kate] Philip Muškovac * 52 * debian/ (changelog control kate-data.install) * New upstream release candidate - update kate-data.install
[16:25] <Riddell> yofel: it is in precise but it needs a MIR to build
[16:26] <yofel> ah, k
[16:32] <CIA-48> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/marble] Philip Muškovac * 22 * debian/ (4 files) * New upstream release candidate - update marble-plugins.install
[16:41] <CIA-48> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kdegames] Philip Muškovac * 141 * debian/ (changelog control) [ Philip Muškovac ] New upstream release candidate [ Felix Geyer ]
[16:51] <CIA-48> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kdemultimedia] Philip Muškovac * 138 * debian/ (changelog control) New upstream release candidate
[17:07] <CIA-48> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kdeadmin] Philip Muškovac * 140 * debian/ (changelog control) New upstream release candidate
[17:16] <CIA-48> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/pykde4] Philip Muškovac * 18 * debian/ (changelog control) New upstream release candidate
[17:38] <CIA-48> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kdesdk] Philip Muškovac * 153 * debian/ (changelog control) [ Philip Muškovac ] New upstream release candidate [ Felix Geyer ]
[17:51] <CIA-48> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/blinken] Philip Muškovac * 16 * debian/ (changelog control) New upstream release candidate
[17:51] <CIA-48> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/cantor] Philip Muškovac * 15 * debian/ (4 files) * New upstream release candidate - update description for cantor - update cantor-backend-qalculate.install and cantor-backend-scilab.install
[17:59] <CIA-48> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kalgebra] Philip Muškovac * 25 * debian/ (changelog control kalgebra-common.install) [ Philip Muškovac ] * New upstream release candidate - update kalgebra-common.install [ Felix Geyer ]
[18:03] <CIA-48> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/gwenview] Philip Muškovac * 33 * debian/ (changelog control) [ Philip Muškovac ] New upstream release candiate [ Scott Kitterman ]
[18:04] <ybit> aha, project neon
[18:04] <ybit> thank you Quintasan 
[18:05] <CIA-48> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kalzium] Philip Muškovac * 25 * debian/ (changelog control) New upstream release candidate
[18:07] <CIA-48> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kamera] Philip Muškovac * 18 * debian/ (changelog control) [ Philip Muškovac ] New upstream release candidate [ Felix Geyer ]
[18:08] <CIA-48> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kanagram] Philip Muškovac * 16 * debian/ (changelog control) New upstream release candidate
[18:09] <CIA-48> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kbruch] Philip Muškovac * 19 * debian/ (changelog control) New upstream release candidate
[18:11] <CIA-48> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kcolorchooser] Philip Muškovac * 13 * debian/ (changelog control) New upstream release candidate
[18:13] <CIA-48> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kdegraphics-strigi-analyzer] Philip Muškovac * 23 * debian/ (changelog control) New upstream release candidate
[18:16] <CIA-48> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kdegraphics-thumbnailers] Philip Muškovac * 16 * debian/ (changelog control) New upstream release candidate
[18:17] <bambee> happy christmas all !!
[18:17] <bambee> and have a nice evening ;)
[18:18]  * bambee puts his santa claus hat.... MOHOHO!!!
[18:22] <yofel> merry christmas :)
[18:22]  * yofel doesn't have a hat though ^^
[18:25] <CIA-48> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kgamma] Philip Muškovac * 13 * debian/ (changelog control) New upstream release candidate
[18:36] <CIA-48> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kdepim] Philip Muškovac * 185 * debian/ (tasks-icons.install changelog control tasks-mobile.install) * New upstream release candidate * Add tasks-icons package, move the todo list icons from tasks-mobile there and make kontact depend on tasks-icons (LP: #830447)
[18:38] <CIA-48> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kdeartwork] Philip Muškovac * 127 * debian/ (changelog control) * New upstream release candidate - kdewallpapers breaks/replaces kde-wallpapers << 4:4.7.95
[18:43] <arkadius> good afternoon all! I have been using kubuntu for approximately 2 months now, and I must admit that I quite enjoy it. However, recently, my dolphin file manager has been acting up. Whenever I right click a file, there is a huge delay before the context popup actually show up and this is quite annoying. I have tried using the konqueror file browser as well and it seems to be doing the same thing. NNautilus, which already 
[18:43] <arkadius> seemed to be already installed for some reason appears to be working ok, but i'd rather use dolphin. Does anyone have any insight in this ?
[18:49] <CIA-48> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kdenetwork] Philip Muškovac * 163 * debian/ (changelog control) New upstream release candidate
[18:51] <yofel> arkadius: support in #kubuntu please (sounds like kio_file gettings stuck, but I can't think of a reason it would do that right now)
[18:52] <CIA-48> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kgeography] Philip Muškovac * 15 * debian/ (changelog control) New upstream release candidate
[18:53] <arkadius> thank you
[19:09] <ybit> i'm writing a krunner extension
[19:09] <ybit> should i go through the process of setting up a kde dev environment using the usual stuff mentioned on kde.org
[19:09] <ybit> or should i use the neon project?
[19:13] <ybit> 11:11 < ybit> Frankly you probably don't need to build anything;
[19:13] <ybit> 11:11 < ybit> starting with current distro packages ought to be
[19:13] <ybit> 11:11 < ybit> fine to dev a KRunner plugin.
[19:13] <ybit> 11:11 < ybit> from an email from a kde mentor
[19:13] <ybit> 11:12 -!- mako [~mako@118-93-26-134.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz] has joined 
[19:13] <ybit>           ##hplusroadmap
[19:13] <ybit> 11:12 < ybit> but then he goes into saying that building the kde env would 
[19:13] <ybit>               be a good idea
[19:13] <ybit> 11:12 < ybit> but i forgot to mention project neon
[19:13] <ybit> 11:12 < ybit> durpa durp
[19:13] <ybit> 11:12 < ybit> meant for #kubuntu-devel
[19:20] <yofel> building against neon is usually enough, as that's already trunk
[19:27] <CIA-48> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/khangman] Philip Muškovac * 14 * debian/ (changelog control) New upstream release candidate
[19:34] <CIA-48> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kig] Philip Muškovac * 16 * debian/ (changelog control) New upstream release candidate
[19:37] <CIA-48> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kiten] Philip Muškovac * 23 * debian/ (changelog control not-installed) New upstream release candidate
[19:41] <CIA-48> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/klettres] Philip Muškovac * 16 * debian/ (changelog control) New upstream release candidate
[19:43] <CIA-48> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kmplot] Philip Muškovac * 16 * debian/ (changelog control) New upstream release candidate
[19:54] <CIA-48> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kolourpaint] Philip Muškovac * 17 * debian/ (changelog control) New upstream release candidate
[19:55] <CIA-48> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/konsole] Philip Muškovac * 20 * debian/ (changelog control) New upstream release candidate
[19:58] <CIA-48> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kross-interpreters] Philip Muškovac * 9 * debian/ (changelog control) New upstream release candidate
[20:00] <CIA-48> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kruler] Philip Muškovac * 17 * debian/ (changelog control) New upstream release candidate
[20:02] <CIA-48> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/ksaneplugin] Philip Muškovac * 23 * debian/ (changelog control) New upstream release candidate
[20:05] <CIA-48> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/ksnapshot] Philip Muškovac * 17 * debian/ (changelog control) New upstream release candidate
[20:54] <CIA-48> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kstars] Philip Muškovac * 16 * debian/ (changelog control) New upstream release candidate
[20:56] <CIA-48> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/ktouch] Philip Muškovac * 15 * debian/ (changelog control) New upstream release candidate
[21:00] <CIA-48> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kturtle] Philip Muškovac * 18 * debian/ (changelog control) New upstream release candidate
[21:02] <CIA-48> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kwordquiz] Philip Muškovac * 14 * debian/ (changelog control) New upstream release candidate
[21:09] <CIA-48> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/perlqt] Philip Muškovac * 17 * debian/changelog New upstream release candidate
[21:11] <CIA-48> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/qtruby] Philip Muškovac * 14 * debian/changelog New upstream release candidate
[21:19] <CIA-48> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/step] Philip Muškovac * 18 * debian/ (changelog control) New upstream release candidate
[21:19] <CIA-48> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/rocs] Philip Muškovac * 19 * debian/ (changelog control not-installed rocs.install) * New upstream release candidate - update rocs.install and not-installed
[21:20] <CIA-48> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/svgpart] Philip Muškovac * 29 * debian/ (changelog control) New upstream release candidate
[21:23] <CIA-48> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/jovie] Philip Muškovac * 2 * debian/ (changelog control) New upstream release candidate
[21:25] <CIA-48> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kaccessible] Philip Muškovac * 2 * debian/ (changelog control) New upstream release candidate
[21:27] <CIA-48> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kmouth] Philip Muškovac * 2 * debian/ (changelog control) New upstream release candidate
[21:28] <CIA-48> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kmousetool] Philip Muškovac * 2 * debian/ (changelog control) New upstream release candidate
[21:30] <CIA-48> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kmag] Philip Muškovac * 2 * debian/ (changelog control) New upstream release candidate
[21:33] <CIA-48> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/ark] Philip Muškovac * 2 * debian/ (changelog control) New upstream release candidate
[21:34] <CIA-48> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/filelight] Philip Muškovac * 2 * debian/ (changelog control) New upstream release candidate
[21:45] <CIA-48> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kdetoys] Philip Muškovac * 101 * debian/ (changelog control) New upstream release candidate
[22:04] <Riddell> woo, doing a stormer yofel 
[22:04] <yofel> almost done with precise
[22:05] <CIA-48> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kdewebdev] Philip Muškovac * 105 * debian/ (changelog control) New upstream release candidate
[22:06] <CIA-48> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kdeplasma-addons] Philip Muškovac * 183 * debian/ (changelog control plasma-widgets-addons.install) * New upstream release candidate - update plasma-widgets-addons.install
[22:07] <CIA-48> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/korundum] Philip Muškovac * 15 * debian/changelog New upstream release candidate
[22:10] <CIA-48> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/perlkde] Philip Muškovac * 14 * debian/ (changelog control) New upstream release candidate
[22:12] <CIA-48> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kcalc] Philip Muškovac * 2 * debian/ (changelog control) New upstream release candidate
[22:15] <CIA-48> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kcharselect] Philip Muškovac * 2 * debian/ (changelog control) New upstream release candidate
[22:17] <CIA-48> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kdf] Philip Muškovac * 2 * debian/ (changelog control) New upstream release candidate
[22:21] <CIA-48> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kfloppy] Philip Muškovac * 2 * debian/ (changelog control) New upstream release candidate
[22:22] <CIA-48> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kgpg] Philip Muškovac * 2 * debian/ (changelog control) New upstream release candidate
[22:23] <CIA-48> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/printer-applet] Philip Muškovac * 3 * debian/ (changelog control) New upstream release
[22:27] <CIA-48> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/ktimer] Philip Muškovac * 2 * debian/ (changelog control) New upstream release candidate
[22:28] <CIA-48> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kwallet] Philip Muškovac * 2 * debian/ (changelog control) New upstream release candidate
[22:31] <CIA-48> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/superkaramba] Philip Muškovac * 2 * debian/ (changelog control) New upstream release candidate
[22:31] <CIA-48> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/sweeper] Philip Muškovac * 2 * debian/ (changelog control) New upstream release candidate
[22:37] <CIA-48> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kremotecontrol] Philip Muškovac * 2 * debian/ (5 files in 2 dirs) * New upstream release candidate - drop remove_workspace.patch, applied upstream
[22:37] <yofel> k, that should be all except ksecrets, now let's see what to do with that....
[22:39] <yofel> ah no, I forgot mobipocket
[22:48] <CIA-48> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kdegraphics-mobipocket] Philip Muškovac * 26 * debian/changelog New upstream release candidate
[23:40] <ybit> hey
[23:42] <ybit> Quintasan, yofel, Riddell 
[23:42] <ybit> anyone! :)
[23:42] <yofel> ZzZzzz....
[23:42] <ybit> http://techbase.kde.org/Getting_Started/Build/Environment#Environment_Configuration
[23:42] <ybit> export QTDIR=/usr
[23:43] <ybit> is that correct?
[23:43] <ybit> there are many qt directories in /usr
[23:43] <yofel> should be
[23:43] <ybit> hrm...
[23:44] <yofel> system qt is installed in /usr, unless you have a reason to use something else, use that
[23:52] <yofel> who would've guessed? ksecrets has exactly 0 license copies -.-
[23:53]  * ybit is busy working on creating his build env
[23:54] <ybit> actually
[23:54] <ybit> http://techbase.kde.org/Getting_Started/Build/Environment
[23:54] <ybit> just went through all of that
[23:54] <ybit> hrm...
[23:54] <ybit> now what.. :\
[23:57] <yofel> back to root: why did you set it up again? ^^
[23:58] <ybit> http://pastie.org/3068975
[23:58] <ybit> yofel: mind taking a quick gander at that?
[23:59] <yofel> sorry, can't help there