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DarthFrogIf I have a USB 3.0 hub (hoping to get one after Xmas) and connect a USB 2.0 device (external hard drive) to it, does anyone know if that limits a USB 3.0 device also connected to that hub to USB 2.0 or will it still transfer at USB 3.0 speeds?00:32
lengauIt depends on the hub, but most likely yes.00:37
lengau(It most likely causes everything attached to the hub to reduce to the highest speed with which everything is compatible)00:38
TheBuntuguess useing lilo was as easy as 1 2 3 to restore that mbr00:55
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Tech-1done ?03:05
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cablophello05:13
cablopi moved to KDE, and i opened a gtk app, gedit, i tried to click on the file menu, but the cursor keeps with the text cursor shape and click doesn't work,05:13
bazhanghi05:13
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FloodBotK3!netsplit06:05
ubottunetsplit is when two IRC servers of the same network (like freenode) disconnect from each other, so users on one server stop seeing users on the other. If this is happening now, just relax and enjoy the show. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netsplit06:05
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xskydevilxDoes anyone know of a good Ubuntu (gnome, ambiance) theme for KDE?07:54
ivzbhi all :)08:11
AciD_hi08:37
AciD_kmail2 is driving me crazy. For some reason, it displays many greyed-out duplicate emails, but I can't remove them. Some other people have the same problem, no solution : http://forums.opensuse.org/forums/english/get-technical-help-here/applications/463414-kde-4-7-kmail-2.html08:39
AciD_I tried to remove them server side, but the webmail client just doesn't show any duplicate messages..08:39
jmichaelxAciD_: i know next to nothing about kmail, but i believe there have been some updates related to kmail recently, from the kubuntu ppa08:43
AciD_jmichaelx: ah, that could help with the tremendous amounts of other problems I have with kmail2 (for instance; taking 4 minutes to display _each_ email content). What's the ppa's name ?08:44
jmichaelxAciD_:  ppa:kubuntu-ppa/ppa08:45
AciD_jmichaelx: isn't that the 'normal' repository ? for info, my kmail version is : 4:4.7.3-0ubuntu0.108:45
jmichaelxyou may already know, but you can add by running 'sudo apt-add-repository ppa:kubuntu-ppa/ppa'08:45
jmichaelxAciD_: hmm... these updates may even have come fomr the backports pps08:46
jmichaelxppa*08:46
jmichaelxi know i got a round of kdepim and related updates within the last few days08:46
AciD_I did too08:47
AciD_ah08:47
AciD_not the same round it seems, that ppa gives me 336 packages to update :)08:48
AciD_let's try that !08:48
AciD_ah, that ppa have kde 4.7.4 (instead to 4.7.3)08:48
soeeAciD_, yesterday i decided to remove kmail08:58
soeethere were some bug08:58
soeeso 2 emails were duplicated every 10-15 minutes08:58
soeeeven if i deleted them08:58
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AciD_soee: same here09:02
AciD_kmail2 is the kde4 of kde3.09:02
soeeso now im on thunderbird09:02
AciD_or the amarok2 or amarok09:02
AciD_even though kmail2 is totally broken and unusable, I can't in my right mind switch to a gtk app :'(09:03
soee:)09:04
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AciD_soee: doesn't using thunderbird mess up your maildir organisation ? Or does it seem good enough as a temporary kmail2 replacement (ie. just to read and write mail) ?09:06
soeeAciD_, i comepletly removed all stuff kmail related09:07
soeeand just installed/configured thunderbird09:07
soeeand the only thing i dont like is how thunderbird looks09:08
erik1397is there a default system tray battery notification or do you have to add a widget?09:11
AciD_soee: iirc, gtk apps can display the same them than kde09:11
AciD_erik1397: default09:11
erik1397hmm odd, because I don't seem to have a default one09:12
AciD_erik1397: if you don't see it, either your not on a laptop, or it's 'hidden' in the unused icons09:12
erik1397i am on a laptop (not plugged in currently) and it is not in the hidden icons09:13
AciD_erik1397: right click on the notification area, and configure that09:14
erik1397AciD_: ah, got it, thanks09:15
AciD_erik1397: you're welcome09:15
erik1397is it possible to have the kmenu back button enabled like back in kde sc 4.5ish?09:16
AciD_erik1397: there is a default plasmoid for that09:22
AciD_err...what do you mean by 'back button' ?09:22
AciD_brb09:22
erik1397AciD:remember, back in pre 4.7 (I forget exactly which version) if you were in the kmenu and went into a submenu, there was a side button on the left side u could click to go up one level09:23
AciD_soee: ok so, switching to the last 4.7.4 version doesn't solve any problems : kmail2 stills take 4 minutes to display each email content, and I still can't get ride of those greyed-out message. sucks to be an early kdepim user. maybe in a very near future my mind will collapse and i'll get back to stable debian.09:30
soeeAciD_, im on KDe 4.8b2 and kmail is buggy here also09:31
AciD_:(09:31
erik1397acid ill repost what i  said since u got back: remember, back in pre 4.7 (I forget exactly which version) if you were in the kmenu and went into a submenu, there was a side button on the left side u could click to go up one level09:32
soeei will  try again after KDE 4.8 stable is release09:32
AciD_erik1397: look at the upper part of the kmenu, the whole depth is displayed now09:34
erik1397yea i know, i always just found that back button convenient tho09:34
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Fleckkmail sucks here too... 4.7.3 :( imap + kmail... new messages doesn't always get marked as read, when i delete new message, it comes back almost always and i have to delete 2nd time...09:39
soeewell we cant say it sucks ;) its free and basicly the idea is great09:41
erik1397here's a tough one, i get a black screen from resume after suspend09:42
soeeif im right (read on some blog or forum) only one person is working on kmail so we cant expect all will work out of the box as it should09:42
erik1397cant switch to another tty, nothing09:42
erik1397only cold reboot works09:42
erik1397sorry if i missed a reply, i was trying suspend after reading about a possible fix, alas to no avail09:54
soeeAciD_, for a test i just cleard all Kmail settings and installe dit again10:43
soeeKmail crashes when moving some folders etc but so far all works prettty goof10:44
soeei wil test sending messages etc soon10:44
soeenow i have 2 accounts configured10:44
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Guest36793hello10:47
Guest36793somebody inside ?10:47
michael__Hi !!!!10:50
soeehiho10:50
AciD_soee: I did that to, two times already. but in the end, the bugs are coming back10:51
AciD_:/10:51
soeewell now i configured different accounts not the same as before10:51
soeeall works fast10:52
soeebut now i have small amount of messages10:52
soee18 firs acc and ~ 170 second one10:52
soeeAciD_, dod you cleard kmail configuration in .kde folder ?10:53
soeenot sure if this will help but you can try10:53
AciD_soee: I thinks so, but honestly I'm tired of recreating each time all the filters and stuff10:54
soeethere is no any export for settings10:55
soee>10:55
soee?10:56
robin0800soee: try saving .kmail in your home directory10:57
soeehmm how can i remove some apps from context menu? if i click on php file, open with .. i have apps that arent in my ssystem anymore11:00
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goekhanquestion "regarding low fat settings" - are there more aesthetic themses for it?11:10
didiberfrohe weihnachten! :) marry christmas! :)12:21
SunTsudidiber: it's "merry", you're not supposed to take wife/husband these days, but be merry ;)12:22
SunTsuanyway, the same to you12:22
didiberyes im merry , also glad because KDE has become so super12:25
who_me:D12:26
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BluesKaj_Hey All , Merry Christmas! :)13:04
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erik1397i get a black screen on resume after suspend. intel hd 3000 graphics, have tried all  generic kernels available with same result14:00
cablopmm14:28
cablopi moved to KDE, and i opened a gtk app, gedit, i tried to click on the file menu, but the cursor keeps with the text cursor shape and click doesn't work, other gtk apps failed too, any sugestion?14:41
Kwashiorkorcablop: using kubuntu?14:44
cablopyep14:45
cablopKwashiorkor: do you know a solution for it?15:03
Kwashiorkorcablop: are you graphics drivers installed and working correctly?15:17
Kwashiorkor*your15:17
mhusmannis there anyone who can give me a hint: My box does not resume from sleep mode using the latest kernel15:20
cablophmmm Kwashiorkor i'm not sure, ubuntu is using a default driver and it is giving me grahics acceleration15:21
Kwashiorkorwhat is your graphics card?15:22
cablopso KDE effects work, also gnome 3 works, i skipped unity xD i'm not masoquist...15:23
cablopan integrated ATI15:23
Kwashiorkorok15:23
cablopbut i forgot the reference, let me find it15:23
Kwashiorkorso all other gtk apps also have the same glitch?15:23
cablopother gtk3 apps while running inside KDE15:24
Kwashiorkorah15:24
cablopoin gnome they work as expected, but after a few hours then the keyboard got an insane lag15:24
Kwashiorkorso you are talking about glitches in gtk3 apps inside kde 4.7.x?15:24
cablopyes, that15:24
cablopsometimes they work, but sometimes i cannot click on them, keyboard works and i can tab tab tab space barrr and so on to move on them, but it is not the expected behavior15:25
Kwashiorkormy suggestion.... forget about gnome3 apps...15:25
Kwashiorkorits too early to use them15:25
cablopmmm, i don't know if some gtk2 apps still exist15:26
Kwashiorkorif you want some good gtk3 support you should check the just released linux mint 1215:26
Kwashiorkorubuntu messed it all on latest releases15:27
cablopmy vga is ATI Radeon HD 320015:28
Kwashiorkorintegrated?15:28
Kwashiorkorinto mobo15:28
cablopyes15:28
cablopyep15:28
cablopafaik is not a bad chip15:28
cablopand the kernel module running is radeon too15:28
Kwashiorkorfor linux is preferable a nvidia one, and not integrated15:28
cablopi see15:28
Kwashiorkori learned it many years ago with me ati cards not working well on many linux distros....15:29
Kwashiorkor*my ati15:29
cablopmmm, now i need to think what gtk ap i do really needand try to test it15:29
cablopneutilus is imposible to use15:29
cablopmmm15:29
cablopah thunar!15:29
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Kwashiorkorbut tell me, why do you want to use nautilus inside kubuntu/kde15:29
Kwashiorkoryes, there are good gtk2 apps out there yet15:29
cablopno no, i am thinking in what to use to test if gtk2 apps works ok15:30
Kwashiorkorwhy dont you stick with the good dolphin15:30
Kwashiorkorah ok15:30
cablopwell, it seems thunar works as expected15:30
Kwashiorkoras i told you... simply forget about gtk3 apps by now15:30
cablopbut nautilus don't15:31
cablophmm15:31
Kwashiorkorthunar is rock solid15:31
cablopi wonder if Eclipse is going to use the old GTK or gtk315:31
Kwashiorkori dont know either15:31
cablopbut this is the problem15:31
Kwashiorkorare you on 11.10?15:31
cablopyes, unfortunately15:31
Kwashiorkorheh15:32
cablopi was even planning to move back to 10.1015:32
Kwashiorkortry 11.04, very stable15:32
Kwashiorkoror if you want good gnome support, linux mint 1215:32
Kwashiorkorwith 11.04 i mean kubunt 11.0415:32
cablopthe bad thing is 11.04 is the worst for gnome15:33
cablopso i think i should go back to 10.10 or switch to linux mint...15:33
cablopafaik linux mint was planning to move back to debian15:34
cablopso if i want stabe and recent KDE and Gnome 10.10 is the option in ubuntu15:34
cabloplet me check that linux mint 1215:34
Kwashiorkor11.04 is very good for kde apps. regarding gtk, i dont use too much gtk apps to tell15:34
cablopwell, it seems filezilla works well too15:35
cablopyou are right15:35
Kwashiorkornot yet. they do have a debian release (old) but they're still with ubuntu. and judging by last move (continue with ubuntu on this really unstable unity/gnome3 background) i would say they would really stick with it.15:35
cablopit is too early to use in a user end envitronment any gnome 3 thing15:35
Kwashiorkoryes, gnome3 is still not as good as we need15:36
Kwashiorkoryou can try also xfce distro15:37
Kwashiorkorlike xubuntu15:37
Kwashiorkorsolid gtk215:37
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cablopKwashiorkor: yes, but xfce has a pretty old style16:07
cablopit looks like something from the last century16:07
cablopbut yeah... solid gtk2 indeed... i wonder if gtk3 apps are going to run well on xfce too16:10
cablophmmm16:10
cablopwell, if i want something modern i'll go for KDE, and i'll deal with gnome16:11
cablopthat text on Konsole is repulsively UGLY16:11
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onebitxajaxhi to all17:04
onebitxajaxi have problem with flash-nonfree17:04
onebitxajax1) i can't see youtube video without problems17:04
onebitxajax2) it freeze my pc17:04
onebitxajaxcan someone help me?17:04
qcjnhi, i installed kubuntu on a flashdrive, and on the second boot it asked me for a user and password. Is there one default ??17:11
qcjncause i didnt add one myself ?17:11
tsimpsonqcjn: I've never installed on a flash drive, but for the live cd, the default user and password are both "ubuntu"17:32
qcjnok, thanks, i ll try that17:32
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sazzoHi room.18:42
ybithi simion31418:46
ybiter.. he/she left.. nm18:46
ybitsorry for the highlight simion31418:46
simion314no problem18:46
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arkadiusgood afternoon all! I have been using kubuntu for approximately 2 months now, and I must admit that I quite enjoy it. However, recently, my dolphin file manager has been acting up. Whenever I right click a file, there is a huge delay before the context popup actually show up and this is quite annoying. I have tried using the konqueror file browser as well and it seems to be doing the same thing. NNautilus, which already seemed to18:53
arkadiusbe already installed for some reason appears to be working ok, but i'd rather use dolphin. Does anyone have any insight in this ?18:53
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DarkriftXarkadius: have you rebooted during this time?18:58
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DarkriftXI know this is not windows where a reboot fixes all things, but might be a good troubleshooting step.18:58
arkadiuswell, for what it is worth, i will give it a try18:58
DarkriftXid also check dmesg right before and after to see if there are any errors about the drive18:58
sazzoHi.  Is there a way to summon the menu(lower-left) with a key combo?19:01
ybitsazzo: alt-f119:04
DarkriftXlol19:04
DarkriftXI was about to find a way to do it but he beat me19:04
sazzoThanks!19:04
ybitnp, hf!19:04
sazzoI looked and looked for that.19:04
DarkriftXif yo uright click on it and go to "Application launcher settings menu" you can change it19:04
DarkriftXin the Keyboard Shortcuts page19:05
ybityou can find it in the keyboard shorcuts through the system settings19:05
ybitthat too19:05
sazzoGuess I missed it.19:05
sazzoIt's still a frustrating function.. I can't navigate the menus inside it with arrows.  I see the tab takes me out of search.19:06
* sazzo is new to KDE19:06
DarkriftXOdd, I can navigate it with arrows19:09
DarkriftXI just tried with alt-f1 and then arrow keys, works fine here19:09
onebitxajaxflash continue crash :( can someone help me?19:11
sazzook DarkriftX19:12
sazzobbl19:12
DarkriftXok, so I have an issue with extra kernels installed. I installed the PAE kernel a few years ago and ever since I have the PAE and non PAE kernels. whenever I do an update/upgrade I end up getting messages about the non PAE kernel having an update that is held back19:14
DarkriftXso how do I remove the non pae kernel the safest way19:15
DarkriftXjust apt-get remove it?19:15
utenteIs this the help channel?19:17
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Snowhog!#kubuntu | utente19:23
ubottuutente: kubuntu is Ubuntu with the KDE Software Compilation instead of !Gnome. See http://kubuntu.org for more information - For support join #kubuntu - See also !kde19:23
SnowhogHmm. utente - this is the Kubuntu support channel. If you have a question, just ask it.19:24
utenteOk.19:24
utentefigured it out. Goober messenger needed an older library. libssl0.9.8 instead of libssl1.0.0.19:29
utentethe new Kubuntu is flawless.19:30
colton_hey i have a question can yall help me19:56
szalnot unless we know the question19:58
szals/unless/until/19:58
colton_well im trying to install programs from the software center and it says there is another pakage manager on  but i cant figure out how to turn off this other pakage manager20:00
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colton_is there anything yall know that would help me?? its really annoying not being able to install anything20:04
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szal!pm | colton_20:06
ubottucolton_: Please ask your questions in the channel so that other people can help you, benefit from your questions and answers, and ensure that you're not getting bad advice. Please note that some people find it rude to be sent a PM without being asked for permission to do so first.20:06
colton_fuck it20:07
utentedo you have terminal open?20:07
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jschallI'm having trouble playing hd video on my new i7 laptop when its on battery. I'm using kubuntu 11.10... anyone know how I can adjust the frequency scaling?20:25
utente720p or 1080?20:26
jschall1080p20:29
utentehave you tried XBMC?20:30
jschallutente: i've tried mplayer, smplayer, dragon player, vlc20:31
jschallutente: it's because of the frequency scaling though20:31
utentejschall: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=103407520:34
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TheBuntuInstalling kubuntu on a 500 gig usb hdd.. Can i install grub just to that drive and not toutch windows mbr?20:56
lethuTheBuntu, yes20:57
TheBuntulethu, so if windows harddrive is sda and the usb drive is sdb.. then i would just install grub to sdb right20:59
lethuTheBuntu, that is right20:59
TheBuntuok... get this installed.. and hope it don't mess up like the install to a usb stick did yesterday... where nothing got grub... and even screwed windows mbr.. had to use lilo to fix that21:01
lethuTheBuntu, just make sure you go manual setup21:01
lethuTheBuntu, so that you can decide which is the boot hd21:02
TheBuntui always use that... onlyway you get the partitions and sizes you want21:02
lethuok21:02
TheBuntufigure do it this way.. Then im making it portable21:03
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fuudruukershello21:37
fuudruukerswhat is the latest version number of kubuntu?21:38
Snowhogfuudruukers: 11.10 (Oneric) is the latest. 12.04 is in alpha testing stage.21:42
Resistancei dont recommend using 12.04 atm ;P21:42
fuudruukersOneric21:42
Resistanceuse latest stable, 11.1021:42
fuudruukersstick ** jacked me instantly21:43
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Zorrotladies, gentlemen: upgraded to new kubuntu, Kmail flips out and crashes on start. " KMail encountered a fatal error and will terminate now. The error was: Failed to fetch the resource collection.22:05
Zorrotok, got it. deleted local folders resource in akonadi, and let kmail do it's schtick, all's well.22:16
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ArNichello Разрешить написание латиницей23:08
ArNicHi, I use Kubuntu, a question about Ksoftirqd. CPU loads from 2 to 25%. Temperature because of this not less than 50 drops. Help solve the problem with the consumption of the processor.23:08
ArNicHi, I use Kubuntu, a question about Ksoftirqd. CPU loads from 2 to 25%. Temperature because of this not less than 50 drops. Help solve the problem with the consumption of the processor.23:30
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RoeyXVampireX:  long time no see23:44
XVampireXYou're right :D23:45
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