[00:32] <DarthFrog> If I have a USB 3.0 hub (hoping to get one after Xmas) and connect a USB 2.0 device (external hard drive) to it, does anyone know if that limits a USB 3.0 device also connected to that hub to USB 2.0 or will it still transfer at USB 3.0 speeds?
[00:37] <lengau> It depends on the hub, but most likely yes.
[00:38] <lengau> (It most likely causes everything attached to the hub to reduce to the highest speed with which everything is compatible)
[00:55] <TheBuntu> guess useing lilo was as easy as 1 2 3 to restore that mbr
[03:05] <Tech-1> done ?
[05:13] <cablop> hello
[05:13] <cablop> i moved to KDE, and i opened a gtk app, gedit, i tried to click on the file menu, but the cursor keeps with the text cursor shape and click doesn't work,
[05:13] <bazhang> hi
[06:05] <FloodBotK3> !netsplit
[07:54] <xskydevilx> Does anyone know of a good Ubuntu (gnome, ambiance) theme for KDE?
[08:11] <ivzb> hi all :)
[08:37] <AciD_> hi
[08:39] <AciD_> kmail2 is driving me crazy. For some reason, it displays many greyed-out duplicate emails, but I can't remove them. Some other people have the same problem, no solution : http://forums.opensuse.org/forums/english/get-technical-help-here/applications/463414-kde-4-7-kmail-2.html
[08:39] <AciD_> I tried to remove them server side, but the webmail client just doesn't show any duplicate messages..
[08:43] <jmichaelx> AciD_: i know next to nothing about kmail, but i believe there have been some updates related to kmail recently, from the kubuntu ppa
[08:44] <AciD_> jmichaelx: ah, that could help with the tremendous amounts of other problems I have with kmail2 (for instance; taking 4 minutes to display _each_ email content). What's the ppa's name ?
[08:45] <jmichaelx> AciD_:  ppa:kubuntu-ppa/ppa
[08:45] <AciD_> jmichaelx: isn't that the 'normal' repository ? for info, my kmail version is : 4:4.7.3-0ubuntu0.1
[08:45] <jmichaelx> you may already know, but you can add by running 'sudo apt-add-repository ppa:kubuntu-ppa/ppa'
[08:46] <jmichaelx> AciD_: hmm... these updates may even have come fomr the backports pps
[08:46] <jmichaelx> ppa*
[08:46] <jmichaelx> i know i got a round of kdepim and related updates within the last few days
[08:47] <AciD_> I did too
[08:47] <AciD_> ah
[08:48] <AciD_> not the same round it seems, that ppa gives me 336 packages to update :)
[08:48] <AciD_> let's try that !
[08:48] <AciD_> ah, that ppa have kde 4.7.4 (instead to 4.7.3)
[08:58] <soee> AciD_, yesterday i decided to remove kmail
[08:58] <soee> there were some bug
[08:58] <soee> so 2 emails were duplicated every 10-15 minutes
[08:58] <soee> even if i deleted them
[09:02] <AciD_> soee: same here
[09:02] <AciD_> kmail2 is the kde4 of kde3.
[09:02] <soee> so now im on thunderbird
[09:02] <AciD_> or the amarok2 or amarok
[09:03] <AciD_> even though kmail2 is totally broken and unusable, I can't in my right mind switch to a gtk app :'(
[09:04] <soee> :)
[09:06] <AciD_> soee: doesn't using thunderbird mess up your maildir organisation ? Or does it seem good enough as a temporary kmail2 replacement (ie. just to read and write mail) ?
[09:07] <soee> AciD_, i comepletly removed all stuff kmail related
[09:07] <soee> and just installed/configured thunderbird
[09:08] <soee> and the only thing i dont like is how thunderbird looks
[09:11] <erik1397> is there a default system tray battery notification or do you have to add a widget?
[09:11] <AciD_> soee: iirc, gtk apps can display the same them than kde
[09:11] <AciD_> erik1397: default
[09:12] <erik1397> hmm odd, because I don't seem to have a default one
[09:12] <AciD_> erik1397: if you don't see it, either your not on a laptop, or it's 'hidden' in the unused icons
[09:13] <erik1397> i am on a laptop (not plugged in currently) and it is not in the hidden icons
[09:14] <AciD_> erik1397: right click on the notification area, and configure that
[09:15] <erik1397> AciD_: ah, got it, thanks
[09:15] <AciD_> erik1397: you're welcome
[09:16] <erik1397> is it possible to have the kmenu back button enabled like back in kde sc 4.5ish?
[09:22] <AciD_> erik1397: there is a default plasmoid for that
[09:22] <AciD_> err...what do you mean by 'back button' ?
[09:22] <AciD_> brb
[09:23] <erik1397> AciD:remember, back in pre 4.7 (I forget exactly which version) if you were in the kmenu and went into a submenu, there was a side button on the left side u could click to go up one level
[09:30] <AciD_> soee: ok so, switching to the last 4.7.4 version doesn't solve any problems : kmail2 stills take 4 minutes to display each email content, and I still can't get ride of those greyed-out message. sucks to be an early kdepim user. maybe in a very near future my mind will collapse and i'll get back to stable debian.
[09:31] <soee> AciD_, im on KDe 4.8b2 and kmail is buggy here also
[09:31] <AciD_> :(
[09:32] <erik1397> acid ill repost what i  said since u got back: remember, back in pre 4.7 (I forget exactly which version) if you were in the kmenu and went into a submenu, there was a side button on the left side u could click to go up one level
[09:32] <soee> i will  try again after KDE 4.8 stable is release
[09:34] <AciD_> erik1397: look at the upper part of the kmenu, the whole depth is displayed now
[09:34] <erik1397> yea i know, i always just found that back button convenient tho
[09:39] <Fleck> kmail sucks here too... 4.7.3 :( imap + kmail... new messages doesn't always get marked as read, when i delete new message, it comes back almost always and i have to delete 2nd time...
[09:41] <soee> well we cant say it sucks ;) its free and basicly the idea is great
[09:42] <erik1397> here's a tough one, i get a black screen from resume after suspend
[09:42] <soee> if im right (read on some blog or forum) only one person is working on kmail so we cant expect all will work out of the box as it should
[09:42] <erik1397> cant switch to another tty, nothing
[09:42] <erik1397> only cold reboot works
[09:54] <erik1397> sorry if i missed a reply, i was trying suspend after reading about a possible fix, alas to no avail
[10:43] <soee> AciD_, for a test i just cleard all Kmail settings and installe dit again
[10:44] <soee> Kmail crashes when moving some folders etc but so far all works prettty goof
[10:44] <soee> i wil test sending messages etc soon
[10:44] <soee> now i have 2 accounts configured
[10:47] <Guest36793> hello
[10:47] <Guest36793> somebody inside ?
[10:50] <michael__> Hi !!!!
[10:50] <soee> hiho
[10:51] <AciD_> soee: I did that to, two times already. but in the end, the bugs are coming back
[10:51] <AciD_> :/
[10:51] <soee> well now i configured different accounts not the same as before
[10:52] <soee> all works fast
[10:52] <soee> but now i have small amount of messages
[10:52] <soee> 18 firs acc and ~ 170 second one
[10:53] <soee> AciD_, dod you cleard kmail configuration in .kde folder ?
[10:53] <soee> not sure if this will help but you can try
[10:54] <AciD_> soee: I thinks so, but honestly I'm tired of recreating each time all the filters and stuff
[10:55] <soee> there is no any export for settings
[10:55] <soee> >
[10:56] <soee> ?
[10:57] <robin0800> soee: try saving .kmail in your home directory
[11:00] <soee> hmm how can i remove some apps from context menu? if i click on php file, open with .. i have apps that arent in my ssystem anymore
[11:10] <goekhan> question "regarding low fat settings" - are there more aesthetic themses for it?
[12:21] <didiber> frohe weihnachten! :) marry christmas! :)
[12:22] <SunTsu> didiber: it's "merry", you're not supposed to take wife/husband these days, but be merry ;)
[12:22] <SunTsu> anyway, the same to you
[12:25] <didiber> yes im merry , also glad because KDE has become so super
[12:26] <who_me> :D
[13:04] <BluesKaj_> Hey All , Merry Christmas! :)
[14:00] <erik1397> i get a black screen on resume after suspend. intel hd 3000 graphics, have tried all  generic kernels available with same result
[14:28] <cablop> mm
[14:41] <cablop> i moved to KDE, and i opened a gtk app, gedit, i tried to click on the file menu, but the cursor keeps with the text cursor shape and click doesn't work, other gtk apps failed too, any sugestion?
[14:44] <Kwashiorkor> cablop: using kubuntu?
[14:45] <cablop> yep
[15:03] <cablop> Kwashiorkor: do you know a solution for it?
[15:17] <Kwashiorkor> cablop: are you graphics drivers installed and working correctly?
[15:17] <Kwashiorkor> *your
[15:20] <mhusmann> is there anyone who can give me a hint: My box does not resume from sleep mode using the latest kernel
[15:21] <cablop> hmmm Kwashiorkor i'm not sure, ubuntu is using a default driver and it is giving me grahics acceleration
[15:22] <Kwashiorkor> what is your graphics card?
[15:23] <cablop> so KDE effects work, also gnome 3 works, i skipped unity xD i'm not masoquist...
[15:23] <cablop> an integrated ATI
[15:23] <Kwashiorkor> ok
[15:23] <cablop> but i forgot the reference, let me find it
[15:23] <Kwashiorkor> so all other gtk apps also have the same glitch?
[15:24] <cablop> other gtk3 apps while running inside KDE
[15:24] <Kwashiorkor> ah
[15:24] <cablop> oin gnome they work as expected, but after a few hours then the keyboard got an insane lag
[15:24] <Kwashiorkor> so you are talking about glitches in gtk3 apps inside kde 4.7.x?
[15:24] <cablop> yes, that
[15:25] <cablop> sometimes they work, but sometimes i cannot click on them, keyboard works and i can tab tab tab space barrr and so on to move on them, but it is not the expected behavior
[15:25] <Kwashiorkor> my suggestion.... forget about gnome3 apps...
[15:25] <Kwashiorkor> its too early to use them
[15:26] <cablop> mmm, i don't know if some gtk2 apps still exist
[15:26] <Kwashiorkor> if you want some good gtk3 support you should check the just released linux mint 12
[15:27] <Kwashiorkor> ubuntu messed it all on latest releases
[15:28] <cablop> my vga is ATI Radeon HD 3200
[15:28] <Kwashiorkor> integrated?
[15:28] <Kwashiorkor> into mobo
[15:28] <cablop> yes
[15:28] <cablop> yep
[15:28] <cablop> afaik is not a bad chip
[15:28] <cablop> and the kernel module running is radeon too
[15:28] <Kwashiorkor> for linux is preferable a nvidia one, and not integrated
[15:28] <cablop> i see
[15:29] <Kwashiorkor> i learned it many years ago with me ati cards not working well on many linux distros....
[15:29] <Kwashiorkor> *my ati
[15:29] <cablop> mmm, now i need to think what gtk ap i do really needand try to test it
[15:29] <cablop> neutilus is imposible to use
[15:29] <cablop> mmm
[15:29] <cablop> ah thunar!
[15:29] <Kwashiorkor> but tell me, why do you want to use nautilus inside kubuntu/kde
[15:29] <Kwashiorkor> yes, there are good gtk2 apps out there yet
[15:30] <cablop> no no, i am thinking in what to use to test if gtk2 apps works ok
[15:30] <Kwashiorkor> why dont you stick with the good dolphin
[15:30] <Kwashiorkor> ah ok
[15:30] <cablop> well, it seems thunar works as expected
[15:30] <Kwashiorkor> as i told you... simply forget about gtk3 apps by now
[15:31] <cablop> but nautilus don't
[15:31] <cablop> hmm
[15:31] <Kwashiorkor> thunar is rock solid
[15:31] <cablop> i wonder if Eclipse is going to use the old GTK or gtk3
[15:31] <Kwashiorkor> i dont know either
[15:31] <cablop> but this is the problem
[15:31] <Kwashiorkor> are you on 11.10?
[15:31] <cablop> yes, unfortunately
[15:32] <Kwashiorkor> heh
[15:32] <cablop> i was even planning to move back to 10.10
[15:32] <Kwashiorkor> try 11.04, very stable
[15:32] <Kwashiorkor> or if you want good gnome support, linux mint 12
[15:32] <Kwashiorkor> with 11.04 i mean kubunt 11.04
[15:33] <cablop> the bad thing is 11.04 is the worst for gnome
[15:33] <cablop> so i think i should go back to 10.10 or switch to linux mint...
[15:34] <cablop> afaik linux mint was planning to move back to debian
[15:34] <cablop> so if i want stabe and recent KDE and Gnome 10.10 is the option in ubuntu
[15:34] <cablop> let me check that linux mint 12
[15:34] <Kwashiorkor> 11.04 is very good for kde apps. regarding gtk, i dont use too much gtk apps to tell
[15:35] <cablop> well, it seems filezilla works well too
[15:35] <cablop> you are right
[15:35] <Kwashiorkor> not yet. they do have a debian release (old) but they're still with ubuntu. and judging by last move (continue with ubuntu on this really unstable unity/gnome3 background) i would say they would really stick with it.
[15:35] <cablop> it is too early to use in a user end envitronment any gnome 3 thing
[15:36] <Kwashiorkor> yes, gnome3 is still not as good as we need
[15:37] <Kwashiorkor> you can try also xfce distro
[15:37] <Kwashiorkor> like xubuntu
[15:37] <Kwashiorkor> solid gtk2
[16:07] <cablop> Kwashiorkor: yes, but xfce has a pretty old style
[16:07] <cablop> it looks like something from the last century
[16:10] <cablop> but yeah... solid gtk2 indeed... i wonder if gtk3 apps are going to run well on xfce too
[16:10] <cablop> hmmm
[16:11] <cablop> well, if i want something modern i'll go for KDE, and i'll deal with gnome
[16:11] <cablop> that text on Konsole is repulsively UGLY
[17:04] <onebitxajax> hi to all
[17:04] <onebitxajax> i have problem with flash-nonfree
[17:04] <onebitxajax> 1) i can't see youtube video without problems
[17:04] <onebitxajax> 2) it freeze my pc
[17:04] <onebitxajax> can someone help me?
[17:11] <qcjn> hi, i installed kubuntu on a flashdrive, and on the second boot it asked me for a user and password. Is there one default ??
[17:11] <qcjn> cause i didnt add one myself ?
[17:32] <tsimpson> qcjn: I've never installed on a flash drive, but for the live cd, the default user and password are both "ubuntu"
[17:32] <qcjn> ok, thanks, i ll try that
[18:42] <sazzo> Hi room.
[18:46] <ybit> hi simion314
[18:46] <ybit> er.. he/she left.. nm
[18:46] <ybit> sorry for the highlight simion314
[18:46] <simion314> no problem
[18:53] <arkadius> good afternoon all! I have been using kubuntu for approximately 2 months now, and I must admit that I quite enjoy it. However, recently, my dolphin file manager has been acting up. Whenever I right click a file, there is a huge delay before the context popup actually show up and this is quite annoying. I have tried using the konqueror file browser as well and it seems to be doing the same thing. NNautilus, which already seemed to
[18:53] <arkadius> be already installed for some reason appears to be working ok, but i'd rather use dolphin. Does anyone have any insight in this ?
[18:58] <DarkriftX> arkadius: have you rebooted during this time?
[18:58] <DarkriftX> I know this is not windows where a reboot fixes all things, but might be a good troubleshooting step.
[18:58] <arkadius> well, for what it is worth, i will give it a try
[18:58] <DarkriftX> id also check dmesg right before and after to see if there are any errors about the drive
[19:01] <sazzo> Hi.  Is there a way to summon the menu(lower-left) with a key combo?
[19:04] <ybit> sazzo: alt-f1
[19:04] <DarkriftX> lol
[19:04] <DarkriftX> I was about to find a way to do it but he beat me
[19:04] <sazzo> Thanks!
[19:04] <ybit> np, hf!
[19:04] <sazzo> I looked and looked for that.
[19:04] <DarkriftX> if yo uright click on it and go to "Application launcher settings menu" you can change it
[19:05] <DarkriftX> in the Keyboard Shortcuts page
[19:05] <ybit> you can find it in the keyboard shorcuts through the system settings
[19:05] <ybit> that too
[19:05] <sazzo> Guess I missed it.
[19:06] <sazzo> It's still a frustrating function.. I can't navigate the menus inside it with arrows.  I see the tab takes me out of search.
[19:06]  * sazzo is new to KDE
[19:09] <DarkriftX> Odd, I can navigate it with arrows
[19:09] <DarkriftX> I just tried with alt-f1 and then arrow keys, works fine here
[19:11] <onebitxajax> flash continue crash :( can someone help me?
[19:12] <sazzo> ok DarkriftX
[19:12] <sazzo> bbl
[19:14] <DarkriftX> ok, so I have an issue with extra kernels installed. I installed the PAE kernel a few years ago and ever since I have the PAE and non PAE kernels. whenever I do an update/upgrade I end up getting messages about the non PAE kernel having an update that is held back
[19:15] <DarkriftX> so how do I remove the non pae kernel the safest way
[19:15] <DarkriftX> just apt-get remove it?
[19:17] <utente> Is this the help channel?
[19:23] <Snowhog> !#kubuntu | utente
[19:24] <Snowhog> Hmm. utente - this is the Kubuntu support channel. If you have a question, just ask it.
[19:24] <utente> Ok.
[19:29] <utente> figured it out. Goober messenger needed an older library. libssl0.9.8 instead of libssl1.0.0.
[19:30] <utente> the new Kubuntu is flawless.
[19:56] <colton_> hey i have a question can yall help me
[19:58] <szal> not unless we know the question
[19:58] <szal> s/unless/until/
[20:00] <colton_> well im trying to install programs from the software center and it says there is another pakage manager on  but i cant figure out how to turn off this other pakage manager
[20:04] <colton_> is there anything yall know that would help me?? its really annoying not being able to install anything
[20:06] <szal> !pm | colton_
[20:07] <colton_> fuck it
[20:07] <utente> do you have terminal open?
[20:25] <jschall> I'm having trouble playing hd video on my new i7 laptop when its on battery. I'm using kubuntu 11.10... anyone know how I can adjust the frequency scaling?
[20:26] <utente> 720p or 1080?
[20:29] <jschall> 1080p
[20:30] <utente> have you tried XBMC?
[20:31] <jschall> utente: i've tried mplayer, smplayer, dragon player, vlc
[20:31] <jschall> utente: it's because of the frequency scaling though
[20:34] <utente> jschall: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1034075
[20:56] <TheBuntu> Installing kubuntu on a 500 gig usb hdd.. Can i install grub just to that drive and not toutch windows mbr?
[20:57] <lethu> TheBuntu, yes
[20:59] <TheBuntu> lethu, so if windows harddrive is sda and the usb drive is sdb.. then i would just install grub to sdb right
[20:59] <lethu> TheBuntu, that is right
[21:01] <TheBuntu> ok... get this installed.. and hope it don't mess up like the install to a usb stick did yesterday... where nothing got grub... and even screwed windows mbr.. had to use lilo to fix that
[21:01] <lethu> TheBuntu, just make sure you go manual setup
[21:02] <lethu> TheBuntu, so that you can decide which is the boot hd
[21:02] <TheBuntu> i always use that... onlyway you get the partitions and sizes you want
[21:02] <lethu> ok
[21:03] <TheBuntu> figure do it this way.. Then im making it portable
[21:37] <fuudruukers> hello
[21:38] <fuudruukers> what is the latest version number of kubuntu?
[21:42] <Snowhog> fuudruukers: 11.10 (Oneric) is the latest. 12.04 is in alpha testing stage.
[21:42] <Resistance> i dont recommend using 12.04 atm ;P
[21:42] <fuudruukers> Oneric
[21:42] <Resistance> use latest stable, 11.10
[21:43] <fuudruukers> stick ** jacked me instantly
[22:05] <Zorrot> ladies, gentlemen: upgraded to new kubuntu, Kmail flips out and crashes on start. " KMail encountered a fatal error and will terminate now. The error was: Failed to fetch the resource collection.
[22:16] <Zorrot> ok, got it. deleted local folders resource in akonadi, and let kmail do it's schtick, all's well.
[23:08] <ArNic> hello Разрешить написание латиницей
[23:08] <ArNic> Hi, I use Kubuntu, a question about Ksoftirqd. CPU loads from 2 to 25%. Temperature because of this not less than 50 drops. Help solve the problem with the consumption of the processor.
[23:30] <ArNic> Hi, I use Kubuntu, a question about Ksoftirqd. CPU loads from 2 to 25%. Temperature because of this not less than 50 drops. Help solve the problem with the consumption of the processor.
[23:44] <Roey> XVampireX:  long time no see
[23:45] <XVampireX> You're right :D
[23:56] <ArNic>  /msg NickServ identify 123456789