[04:37] <Folklore> watch santa feed reindeer http://reindeercam.com/
[04:46] <head_victim> Quick question, I'm setting up my old computers for my nephew and neice and I'm going to run Edubuntu on them. Being older computers though I thought Lubuntu might have a quicker interface. In this scenario would lubuntu-core or lubuntu-desktop be the best thing to install after installing edubuntu
[04:58] <l057c0d3r> umm not sure.. when i did it i just installed lubuntu.. and then installed the edbutnu meta packages
[04:59] <Unit193> head_victim: Might be best to just install Lubuntu and add the programs you want. This will also keep the Gnome desktop out
[04:59] <head_victim> l057c0d3r: Yeah that's what I should have done but I was hoping Edubuntu would run on these a bit snappier than it's turned out :/
[05:00] <head_victim> These people have never used or even seen linux so I was hoping to keep them both there so they could see more than one desktop
[05:00] <head_victim> And let them decide what works best for them
[05:00] <head_victim> (that's the reason I'm giving them the computers ;) A sneaky way to intro them to Ubuntu)
[05:02] <l057c0d3r> my sisters lappy took a shit
[05:02] <l057c0d3r> place she got it wanted an arm and a leg to fix it and recover her files
[05:03] <l057c0d3r> well i recovered all her files for her and have her running a custom gentoo / openbox / lxde inspired by lubuntu ;-)
[05:04] <head_victim> Hm well HDD space is not critical and they are 3.2 Ghz HT P4s so I might just do lubuntu-desktop instead of just -core
[05:10] <l057c0d3r> nothing aginst ubuntu...  because i know lubuntu uses the same kernel..  but...
[05:10] <l057c0d3r> tried it for a while
[05:10] <l057c0d3r> and the start bar thing in unity.. welll
[05:10] <l057c0d3r> didnt work half the time
[05:11] <l057c0d3r> now lubuntu... I've never had a bad experience with it..
[05:11] <l057c0d3r> besides when i hooked my R.A.T.7 mouse up for the first time.. but was a simple fix
[05:15] <head_victim> l057c0d3r: I've never had that problem but then again I avoided 11.04 like the plague. 11.10 has been perfect for me.
[05:29] <l057c0d3r> well it should have updated by now :-P  so if it was the version that should go out the door
[05:30] <l057c0d3r> in my experiences.... gentoo has been the most stable and reliable system i have used...  lubuntu comming in a very close second.....  for a get a small speed improvement with gentoo...
[05:30] <l057c0d3r> so i recemend lubuntu to everyone that is new to linux...
[05:30] <l057c0d3r> however ubuntu has had a terible track record with me... one system i installed it on started locking up  6 months in...
[05:31] <l057c0d3r> another one would forget desktop settings all the time...
[05:31] <l057c0d3r> then the latest problem i mentioned..
[05:31] <l057c0d3r> so far so good with lubuntu..
[05:31] <l057c0d3r> and same went for xbuntu
[05:31] <l057c0d3r> before switching to lubuntu
[05:32] <l057c0d3r> i would tie most the problems i've experienced in with the desktop manager being used..
[05:32] <ybit> whoops
[05:33] <ybit> forgot to login to this channel
[05:33] <ybit> hope friends haven't came in asking for questions while i was away :|
[05:51] <Jakash3> :D
[05:51] <Jakash3> I love lubuntu 11.10
[05:56] <ybit> Jakash3: go away
[05:56] <ybit> kidding ;)
[05:56] <ybit> it's good stuff
[05:56] <ybit> installed it on a friend's computer recently
[05:56] <ybit> if you need help, lemme know good sir
[05:57] <Jakash3> thank you
[05:57] <Jakash3> kind sir
[05:57] <Jakash3> actually yeah
[05:57] <Jakash3> i was wondering if there's any other way to lock the screen besides running the "xscreensaver-command -lock" command
[05:58] <ybit> hrm...
[05:58] <ybit> ctl-alt-del does nothing?
[05:58] <ybit> i'm currently not in lubuntu environment...
[05:59] <ybit> outside of the start menu thingy... you could create an alias for that like "lock" and then just do alt-f2 and type in lock
[05:59] <Jakash3> ctrl alt del runs task manager
[06:00] <holstein> Jakash3: when do you want it to happen? you can make that command run when you do something
[06:00] <ybit> holstein: what captures keyboard commands?
[06:00] <holstein> i have it set up where super+l runs xtrlock
[06:00] <Unit193> Or you could make a keybind (winkey+l?)
[06:00] <holstein> Unit193: hehe
[06:01] <Unit193> Bah, holstein...
[06:01] <ybit> holstein: yes, how did you do that and what program is listening for those commands
[06:01] <holstein> you could make super+l run that command
[06:01] <Jakash3> sorry for not knowing...how do you key bind?
[06:01] <holstein> ybit: i just set a keyboard shorcut
[06:01] <holstein> keybinding
[06:01] <ybit> Jakash3: don't feel sorry i dunno either
[06:01] <ybit> explain or link?
[06:01] <Jakash3> either
[06:02] <ybit> that was to holstein
[06:02] <holstein> maybe http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1754350
[06:02] <Unit193> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Documentation/FAQ/Guides#I_want_to_bind_a_key_to_lock_my_screen.2C_how_do_I_do_it.3F
[06:02] <holstein> ^^ even better!
[06:02] <Jakash3> ^ good one thx
[06:03] <Unit193> But it shouldn't need sudo
[06:03] <holstein> yeah... agreed
[06:03] <Unit193> I'll change
[06:03] <Jakash3> sudo nano...more like no sudo leafpad
[06:03] <holstein> gksudo leafpad
[06:04] <holstein> but you shouldnt need root access to edit that file
[06:04] <Unit193> I tested, you don't
[06:32] <frankcox672> howdy
[06:34] <frankcox672> anyone here good with graphics problems
[06:35] <l057c0d3r> what kind of problem>
[06:35] <frankcox672> well
[06:36] <frankcox672> At first I would get half way through install and the screen would freeze
[06:36] <frankcox672> Then I managed to finish install but said out of range
[06:36] <frankcox672> installed again , still said out of range but then opened up
[06:37] <frankcox672> It worked fine for ten minuts and then the screen went ape again -horixaontal lines-I did install the Nvidea driver recommened
[06:38] <frankcox672> could the refresh rate do that?
[06:39] <frankcox672> switched from old monitar to flatscreen but horizotal lines is all I got
[06:40] <Unit193> Are you on it now?
[06:40] <frankcox672> no-other screen being used for windows install -
[06:40] <frankcox672> I will have to reboot and hope it opens
[06:41] <Unit193> Do you know what the specs are or what video card it has?
[06:42] <frankcox672> is nvidia card-machine is emachine El1200 -can look it up
[06:42] <frankcox672> brb
[06:44] <frankcox672> NVIDIA GeForce 6150 SE
[06:45] <Unit193> You could use the alternate installer, but check the output of running   dmesg  if you can get to a TTY
[06:47] <frankcox672> what is alternate installer- you mean alternate cd
[06:48] <Unit193> Yep
[06:49] <frankcox672> ok - I am almost done with winders-will try and reboot in a minute
[06:49] <frankcox672> thnks
[06:50] <l057c0d3r> wow
[06:50] <Unit193> Yes?
[06:50] <l057c0d3r> was reading over what i missed
[06:51] <Unit193> I've had the i915 driver crap out on my really badly
[06:51] <l057c0d3r> myself.. i get nothing but a black screen... up untill the login screen
[06:52] <frankcox672> 1915 ?
[06:52] <l057c0d3r> and when i logoff.  its a glitche screen till power off
[06:52] <frankcox672> Never had these propblems w/ 9 or 10
[06:58] <frankcox672>   ok I have control of Lubuntu again-is there any way to get out of the messed up screen other than reboot?
[07:01] <frankcox672> on the flat screen is says change t0 1280x   and then it opened
[07:04] <frankcox672> I changed the settings but somehow did not manage to save it
[07:06] <frankcox672> sME THING -GAVE ERROR OUT OF RANGE -CHANGE 1280 then popped open -excuse caps
[07:06] <frankcox672> rick Emach`1200
[07:09] <frankcox672> when I opened it again it said it was set correctly-then blew up again
[07:10] <frankcox672> guess I need to reformat again-try another versiomn
[07:10] <frankcox672> that was the alternate
[07:14] <Unit193> frankcox672: You should be able to use xrandr
[07:15] <frankcox672> WHAT IS XRANDR ?
[07:15] <Unit193> Mind turning off caps? And it's a terminal way to set screen res
[07:15] <frankcox672> sorry about caps-keep hitting button
[07:16] <frankcox672> ok -will try that
[07:17] <frankcox672> rick
[07:20] <frankcox672> xrandr failed to set size of gamma output default Screen 0: minimum 320 x 240 current 1280 x 1024 maximum same
[07:21] <frankcox672> default connected 1280x1024+0+0 0mm x 0mm
[07:22] <frankcox672> it seems to be saying it is set correctly to me but I not real good with video-not at all
[07:33] <frankcox672> I don't know anything else to do but update tyhe system and see if it works -if not try another version
[09:33] <yuler> I've a friend that installed lubuntu on his 256mb 700mhz computer.  He downloaded "50,000" emails into Thunderbird and had Chromium open with 2 tabs, so  the hard drive was highly active that it caused  screen rewrites to stutter.   He left it on overnight, but no change in the morning.  I suspected the swap file was hit hard and advised him to view processes with tops @ CLI.  Any advice?
[11:40] <Folklore> how I reset the default cmdlinpath
[11:40] <Folklore> for f4