[00:00] <edbian> madsen, and releases are always 6 months apart, so every april and october
[00:00] <bobdobbs> Seveas: I see
[00:00] <edbian> bobdobbs, Not always.  But typically
[00:00] <Seveas> edbian, they're not always 6 months apart.
[00:00] <bobdobbs> edbian: ok
[00:00] <Seveas> The first LTS release had a 6-week delay and became 6.06
[00:01] <edbian> Seveas, I never knew that!
[00:01] <bobdobbs> edbian: Seveas: and banshee has picked up the iphone as well.
[00:01] <xubuntu> any way of waking a sleeping computer via ssh?
[00:01] <share> Hello. I need help enabling VDPAU in Adobe Flash player. I am using Ubuntu 10.10 32bit - Firefox 9.0.1 - Adobe Flash 11.1 r102
[00:01] <edbian> well since 6.06 they're always 6 months apart
[00:01] <edbian> bobdobbs, glad to hear it! :)
[00:01] <share> I have tried adding EnableLinuxHWVideoDecode=1 to ./adobe/mms.cfg
[00:02] <Seveas> edbian, since 6.10
[00:02] <bobdobbs> edbian: much thanks
[00:02] <edbian> Seveas, :P
[00:02] <Seveas> (there's 4 months between 6.06 and 6.10 :P)
[00:02] <xubuntu> any way of waking a sleeping computer via ssh? or some sort of remote way?
[00:02] <share> Hardware Acceleration is also enabled in Firefox and Adobe Flash.
[00:02] <edbian> yeah yeah
[00:02] <Seveas> xubuntu, google for wake-on-lan and hope your network card/motherboard support it
[00:02] <xubuntu> thanks seveas will do!
[00:03] <edbian> will wake on lan wake a sleeping computer?  I thought it would only work on a powered off computer
[00:03] <Seveas> hmm, you have a point
[00:03] <Seveas> I'd say test it :)
[00:03] <Seveas> (I've never needed or used wake on lan)
[00:03] <xubuntu> i just don't want my laptop running all the time is all
[00:04] <Seveas> xubuntu, is it connected via wifi? If so, then there's no way
[00:04] <aguitel> how install old kernel in 11.10 ?
[00:04] <xubuntu> yes it's wifi so it can't be done via wake on lan? thanks for your hELP!!!
[00:05] <xubuntu> i guess i could just make it hardwired and try that
[00:05] <Seveas> aguitel, that's not really recommended. But you could grab the older packages from archive.ubuntu.com
[00:05] <xubuntu> thanks again seveaS!
[00:05] <madsen> lftp: invalid option -- 'f'
[00:05] <madsen> :(
[00:05] <hamed> llo i am trying to install xampp but i can't copy the folder to /opt although i can copy it in any other place sorry any one here or not
[00:05] <madsen> darn
[00:06] <Seveas> hamed, don't use xampp.
[00:06] <Seveas> !lamp | hamed
[00:07] <rbarreda> Ubuntu 11.10 sony vaio vgc-js110j
[00:07] <aguitel> Seveas, kernel serie 3.x break my system
[00:07] <Seveas> aguitel, what's broken?
[00:08] <aguitel> Seveas, freeze my system in gnome or lxde
[00:08] <hamed> hamed@hamed:~$ sudo apt-get install tasksel
[00:08] <hamed> Reading package lists... Done
[00:08] <hamed> Building dependency tree
[00:08] <hamed> Reading state information... Done
[00:08] <hamed> E: Unable to locate package tasksel
[00:08] <FloodBot1> hamed: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:08] <hamed> hamed@hamed:~$ ^C
[00:08] <_rb_> installed ubuntu 11.10 on a sony vaio all in one pc. Don't matter what resolution I use right side of the screen is still blank
[00:09] <hamed> hamed@hamed:~$ sudo apt-get install tasksel   Reading package lists... Done    Building dependency tree  Reading state information... Done Unable to locate package tasksel
[00:10] <Skummel> hamed, there isn't a taskel package in the repository
[00:10] <Skummel> atleast not in 11.10
[00:10] <Seveas> Skummel, there is.
[00:11] <hamed> so what can i do this is the first command and the link you write to me
[00:12] <Seveas> hamed, tasksel is installed by default, just run it
[00:12] <hamed> The program 'tasksel' is currently not installed.  You can install it by typing:
[00:13] <hamed> sudo apt-get install tasksel
[00:13] <hamed> E: Unable to locate package tasksel
[00:13] <Seveas> hamed, you've messed up your system a bit I see
[00:13] <trism> hamed: have you apt-get update yet?
[00:13] <Seveas> pastebin your sources.list
[00:13] <jcmarini> do you think that it is hardware or software that is not recognising a blank dvd in burner?
[00:14] <hamed> how
[00:14] <trism> hamed: it is in main, so there is no reason it shouldn't find it
[00:14] <trism> hamed: sudo apt-get update;
[00:14] <Skummel> bleh, i mistyped the package name. that explains it
[00:14] <aguitel> Seveas, how use archive.ubuntu.com to install old kernel ?
[00:15] <Seveas> aguitel, browse to it, into pool/l/ and find the relevant linux-image and linux-restricted-module packages
[00:15] <EvilResistance> aguitel:  you're asking for Precise arent you?  (I saw your messages in the #ubuntu+1 channel)
[00:16] <aguitel> EvilResistance, yes
[00:16] <Seveas> EvilResistance, it's quiet in here, no need to send the mad ones away :)
[00:16] <aguitel> EvilResistance, serie 3.x freeze my system
[00:16] <EvilResistance> Seveas: i dont think the older kernels are available for Precise, hence my message
[00:17] <Seveas> EvilResistance, you can always manually install older packages
[00:17] <Seveas> it's not recommended, but hey
[00:17] <Seveas> ♪ I see trees of green, red roses too ♫
[00:20] <jcmarini> do you think that it is hardware or software that doesn't see a blank dvd in my cdrom burner
[00:20] <Seveas> jcmarini, it's the fact that you put a *dvd* in a *cd* burner
[00:20] <Tech-1> lol
[00:21] <jcmarini> my cd rom is a dvd burner... sorry
[00:21] <Seveas> in that case it's a hardware issue
[00:22] <jcmarini> thanks comrade
[00:22] <Tech-1> does it see a normal DVD ?
[00:22] <nac4l> does mysql just not work on lucid or what?  ERROR 2002 (HY000)  Completely uninstalled and reinstalled all mysql packages, that didn't work, so I removed all and installed latest binary - that didn't work, did hundreds of otehr solutions online, and they all didn't work.  wtf!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[00:22] <Seveas> nac4l, go easy on the exclamation points
[00:23] <Seveas> and start with pastebining the full error
[00:23] <Seveas> mysql works just fine on lucid
[00:24] <studentrob> hellloo
[00:24] <jcmarini> Tech-1 yes it recognises movie dvd's music photos files etc looks like the hardware had a moment.. like me
[00:24] <Tech-1> then its ok
[00:24] <Flannel> nac4l: That error is about not being able to create a lock file.  Check the MySQL error logs for additional information on what's actually going wrong.
[00:24] <_rb_> I found some xorg.conf settings that may fix my problem. Does ubuntu 11.10 still support xorg.conf?
[00:24] <Seveas> hello studentrob
[00:25] <studentrob> is there a website that will tell you all the domains registered with a given registrar?
[00:25] <hasenj> starting about a week ago, my laptop can't wake up from suspend anymore, any help?
[00:25] <Seveas> studentrob, no
[00:25] <jcmarini> ohh software then.. cheers compadre
[00:25] <studentrob> Seveas: no you dont know of one or no there definitely isnt one
[00:25] <SuperNoeMan> hey how to I start a new network inferface
[00:25] <Seveas> studentrob, the latter.
[00:25] <SuperNoeMan> such as eth0, or wlan0
[00:25] <studentrob> Seveas: whys that
[00:25] <studentrob> how can u be sure
[00:25] <SuperNoeMan> it's like sudo ifconfig start wlan0 or something right?
[00:26] <Seveas> studentrob, because registrars don't provide that information
[00:26] <Tech-1> jcmarini:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Mount
[00:26] <studentrob> Seveas: but whois has it
[00:26] <dork> SuperNoeMan: if you're talking about bringing up an interface from a terminal, no initializing scripts etc, it's: ifconfig eth0 ipaddress/subnet
[00:26] <Tech-1> ive had to do that w/blnks sometimes
[00:26] <Tech-1> blanks
[00:27] <SuperNoeMan> ah thanks man
[00:27] <dork> np
[00:27] <dork> don't forget to set your routes
[00:27] <dork> if needed
[00:27] <Seveas> studentrob, sure, and TLD owners can probably tell you which domains in that TLD a registrar has. They don't though and you'd still need to collect it from all TLD's
[00:27] <Flannel> nac4l: You get that error when trying to log into MySQL? or when trying to start it?
[00:27] <jcmarini> Tech-1 merci gone to help page ciao
[00:27] <Tech-1> ok
[00:27] <SuperNoeMan> dork: it's saying it doesn't exist
[00:27] <CharminTheMoose> I'm using bootcd and a chrooted ubuntu 11.04 install to create a small livecd, when I run the iso image in qemu, bootcdmodprobe fails and dumps me to the busybox CLI. What am I doing wrong?
[00:27] <nac4l> when tyring to log in.  It doesn't start, it just hangs
[00:28] <dork> SuperNoeMan: you have to replace eth0 with a valid interface
[00:28] <Flannel> nac4l: Check to see if your server is running.  I have a suspicion it isn't.
[00:28] <studentrob> Seveas: what do you mean collect from the TLDs
[00:28] <nac4l> yeah, it won't start, it just hangs
[00:28] <SuperNoeMan> if config just starts everything. I want a new interface. like one with an arbitrary name
[00:28] <studentrob> Seveas: isnt a TLD just the extension like .com .org
[00:28] <Flannel> nac4l: Right.  So, that's your real error.  Check your error logs.
[00:29] <dork> SuperNoeMan: so you have 1 real interface right?
[00:29] <SuperNoeMan> yea
[00:29] <Gaming4JC> Hello All, would anyone know of software for Ubuntu that can do this? http://www.ehow.com/how_5102072_create-pdf-fields.html
[00:29] <Seveas> studentrob, "whois" querys the TLD owner to get registrar information. These TLD owners will tell you "given domain X, this is the info" they won't give you "Given registrar Y, these are all registerered comains"
[00:29] <Owner__> what's the best movie making software out there?
[00:29] <Gaming4JC> active PDF field creation :)
[00:29] <nac4l> root@ET1331G-07w:/etc/mysql/conf.d# service mysql start
[00:29] <nac4l> mysql start/running
[00:29] <nac4l> root@ET1331G-07w:/etc/mysql/conf.d# mysql -u root -p
[00:29] <nac4l> Enter password:
[00:29] <nac4l> ERROR 2002 (HY000): Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (2)
[00:29] <FloodBot1> nac4l: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:29] <nac4l> root@ET1331G-07w:/etc/mysql/conf.d#
[00:30] <Seveas> studentrob, yes, it's the TLD is the extension. Each TLD is owned/managed by a single entity. E.g. verisign manages .com
[00:30] <dork> alright so if eth0 is bound to 192.168.1.10/24 and you want to add another 'virtual interface' and use eth0 as the parent, you will do ifconfig eth0:1 ipaddress/subnet
[00:30] <Seveas> nac4l, pastebin your /etc/my.cnf. You probably made it listen on another socket.
[00:30] <studentrob> Seveas: gotcha .. do u think whois.com pays those entities to do the queries?
[00:31] <Seveas> studentrob, neh
[00:31] <dork> nac4l: i don't see a pid there, do a ps aux | grep mysql
[00:31] <dork> make sure it's running
[00:31] <studentrob> Seveas: I wonder why/how whois.com has an API that they charge people for if you can just use CLI
[00:31] <Gaming4JC> nac4l: you running ocelot? I had to downgrade to maverick in order to get a stable mysql. :(
[00:32] <nac4l> yeah, service says it's running, but there is nothing in ps aux...
[00:32] <Seveas> studentrob, they don't seem to charge for whois lookups, just for registration
[00:32] <dork> nac4l: check the error log, /var/lib/mysql by default - like Gaming4JC said i have also had a lot of bad experiences with mysql over anything > than natty
[00:33] <studentrob> Seveas: o wait.. i was looking at http://whoisxmlapi.com/
[00:33] <dork> nac4l: try starting it w/ mysqld_safe
[00:38] <Gaming4JC> Alternative.to Adobe Acrobat Pro = http://www.pdfforge.org/pdfcreator & http://pdfedit.cz/en/screenshots.html ... now to figure out if I can make active fields :D
[00:38] <Gaming4JC> I <3 sourceforge...
[00:39] <dork> </3 adobe
[00:39] <dork>  :P
[00:39] <Gaming4JC> true this :P
[00:40] <Seveas> dørk :P
[00:40] <dork> :)
[00:41] <jcmarini> seveas sorry i don't explain very well-  i'm gone to documentation page Ubuntu. thanks
[00:47] <SuperNoeMan> hey dork: I'm back
[00:47] <dork> cool
[00:48] <SuperNoeMan> dork
[00:48] <dork> SuperNoeMan
[00:48] <SuperNoeMan> when you wrote what you did above, did you mean ifconfig <interface>:number ipaddress
[00:49] <SuperNoeMan> did you mean private ip, or external ip
[00:49] <dork> what is the ip address and subnet you are trying to bind to an interface
[00:49] <dork> well it depends on what you are trying to do
[00:49] <cypher-neo> I'm having some trouble with GNOME Shell freezing up when I type in the Search box looking for a program. Is there some way to refresh it's program list?
[00:49] <cypher-neo> Make it so it doesn't lag on a search or crash?
[00:50] <dork> cypher-neo: you sure that's the problem?
[00:50] <dork> checked the logs etc to see what is culpable of the failure?
[00:50] <SuperNoeMan> I just want another interface on a different private address than what my current default has
[00:50] <cypher-neo> dork, Not sure... but it only seems to do that when I'm typing in the Search box.
[00:50] <dork> SuperNoeMan: do you want to replace the current ip bound to that interface or change it?
[00:51] <cypher-neo> dork, I suppose it could be a problem with searching files as well, since both are supposed to be indexed.
[00:51] <cypher-neo> dork, What else could it be?
[00:51] <dork> cypher-neo: hard to say but the logs will tell, just gotta check em when the problem occurs and see what sort of events are seen
[00:52] <cypher-neo> dork, Direct me to the log please.
[00:52] <dork> so if you can recreate the problem all the time, tail /var/log/messages and see if you can get any information on what's happening when it crashes
[00:52] <dork> etc
[00:53] <dork> SuperNoeMan: i have to go soon so if you want me to help answer the question bud
[00:53] <SuperNoeMan> dork: well I guess I don't know what the difference would be
[00:53] <SuperNoeMan> I just know that when you use airmon-ng you can start a new one, I thought you could do the same thing
[00:53] <SuperNoeMan> using ifconfig
[00:53] <dork> well are you replacing the current cards configuration or are you adding to it?
[00:54] <SuperNoeMan> I'm adding to it
[00:54] <dork> oh ok
[00:54] <dork> sorry i may have mislead you, i was assuming you were talking about real ethernet interfaces
[00:54] <dork> SuperNoeMan: not sure what you're trying to do with your wireless interface though, elaborate on what your goal is
[00:54] <SuperNoeMan> well, at least one is real, and it's ok if the other is virtual
[00:55] <dork> well
[00:55] <SuperNoeMan> well, I am running some networking tools, and I thought that I would need to use a different interface to get the particular tool I'm using to work
[00:55] <dork> what tools
[00:55] <SuperNoeMan> so I thought I could just make a new one, like I had when I had used airmon-ng
[00:55] <SuperNoeMan> nmap-ing tool
[00:55] <SuperNoeMan> it's a little different though
[00:57] <SuperNoeMan> anyway, I didn't want my regular internet traffic to interfere, and from what I understand one can use interfaces to separate them, by allowing that particular application to use the virtual interface
[00:57] <|Shay|> Any help with this? GDM/Unity seem to be segfaulting recently.
[00:58] <|Shay|> http://pastebin.com/ey2jvJFQ
[00:58] <dork> |Shay|: use something that doesn't suck as bad as unity
[00:58] <cypher-neo> dork, Thanks for the help. It was the GNOME Shell theme I was using.
[00:58] <dork> not helpful i know, but that's my offering
[00:59] <cypher-neo> dork, Apparently it wasn't displaying icons correctly... so the whole thing appeared to freeze up.
[00:59] <|Shay|> dork: Yeah, I know. I hate Unity as it is. Picking Gnone fallback session, also segfaults
[00:59] <cypher-neo> |Shay|, Try GNOME Shell!
[01:00] <|Shay|> cypher-neo: detaisl?
[01:00] <dork> if he's in oneiric he has no choice right?
[01:00] <|Shay|> *details?
[01:00] <hamed> i installed lamp but i cant copy any thing to www
[01:00] <cypher-neo> |Shay|, GNOME Shell is a more intuitive approach to the desktop, similar to Unity but far more customizable and flexible.
[01:01] <cypher-neo> |Shay|, To install it and preview, 'sudo apt-get install gnome-shell'
[01:01] <deepesh> hi
[01:01] <cypher-neo> |Shay|, The gnome-shell package is only included in the Oneiric repository though. Earlier distros need a PPA which I can look up if you need.
[01:02] <dpierce> hamed: you have to 'get lamp' else youre likely to be eaten by a grue
[01:02] <|Shay|> cypher-neo: Thanks! I already thought to do apt-get for it, running 11.10
[01:02] <|Shay|> cypher-neo: Will try. Im not home, hence the SSH/
[01:03] <cypher-neo> |Shay|, Let me find a link for you. I'll show you a preview of the GNOME Shell running, and some of it's cool features. One sec...
[01:03] <|Shay|> cypher-neo: Awesome. Thanks.
[01:04] <Deltatash> hi
[01:04] <cypher-neo> |Shay|, Looks something like this http://www.gnome.org/gnome-3/
[01:04] <Deltatash> can someone help me with a graphics issue please, I am using Ubuntu 10.4 LTS
[01:04] <dpierce> |Shay|: you could tunnel X through vnc or something if the connection is fast enough. still painfully slow though
[01:04] <Deltatash> my problem is in System > Administration> Hardware Drivers
[01:04] <|Shay|> cypher-neo: looks better than Unity
[01:05] <cypher-neo> |Shay|, Works better too!
[01:05] <Deltatash> I try to activate my Graphics card driver and I get this message
[01:05] <Deltatash> Sorry, the installation of this driver failed.
[01:05] <Deltatash> Please have a look at the log file for details.: /var/log/jockey.log
[01:05] <|Shay|> dpierce: I already can RDP with SSH
[01:05] <cypher-neo> |Shay|, I had my FIRST problem about 20 minutes ago, but only because I installed a theme that wasn't compatible. lol
[01:05] <Deltatash> I have checked the jockey.log but I have no idea what the error is :s hoping someone a little more experienced can help
[01:05] <hamed> you have to 'get lamp' else youre likely to be eaten by a grue i can't understand
[01:06] <dork> Deltatash: pastebin the log
[01:06] <Deltatash> ok
[01:06] <dork> Deltatash: the last page or so
[01:06] <cypher-neo> |Shay|, If you don't mind joining me in #ubuntu-offtopic I can show you some more pictures, this time of my desktop.
[01:06] <|Shay|> cypher-neo: Sure
[01:07] <Deltatash> hmm pastebin doesnt seem to be loading :s is the website down ?
[01:07] <studentrob> How crazy would it be to try to lookup the whois record for every single website?
[01:07] <studentrob> and then update that periodically?
[01:07] <dpierce> hamed: a bad (joke) reference to zork
[01:07] <mebigfatguy1> studentrob: what would be the point of that... surely no one is going to look at them all
[01:08] <dork> hamed: what's up?
[01:08] <studentrob> mebigfatguy1: to track what registrar diff domains are using
[01:08] <hamed> i already installed the lamp from tasksel and now try to copy to the folder www
[01:08] <Deltatash> here dork https://gist.github.com/1515849 I had to use another website
[01:09] <_rb_> Need to install printer drivers for ubuntu 11.10 and have the choice of rpm or debian. Which should I use?
[01:09] <dork> actually it's pretty commen for registrars to harvest domains based on whois queries only to sell them for a profit
[01:09] <mebigfatguy1> debian
[01:09] <dork> s/commen/common
[01:09] <xb_chad> Hi. I've been working on a setup for a remote control. I am successfully reading incoming keypresses using evrouter, and it works great. The problem is that the keypresses are also being treated as regular keyboard input. Can I somehow make evrouter swallow them, or have X ignore the input device entirely?
[01:10] <Deltatash> did my link work dork?
[01:10] <dork> xb_chad: not familiar with evrouter but that's a pretty common scenario, did you check the documentation for it?
[01:10] <dork> Deltatash: yep, hold
[01:10] <Deltatash> ok :)
[01:11] <xb_chad> dork: It doesn't seem to have anything for that. I actually found someone's blog post from ~6 months ago, saying they were having the same problem, but hadn't looked in to it much.
[01:11] <Elems> Is it possible to move an extended partition?
[01:11] <dork> Deltatash: are you able to authenticate with your wireless interface by default?
[01:12] <hamed> i think there is a  command to convert www to aplace i can copy any files to it and put shortcut on desktop
[01:12] <dork> or is this a headless box
[01:12] <|Shay|> cypher-neo: I imagine I need to reboot to apply things, yes?
[01:12] <Deltatash> what you mean ? like auto connect?
[01:12] <xb_chad> dork: here http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no/2011/04/more-input-devices.html?showComment=1324687145651#c636904990748966543
[01:12] <dork> hamed: you need to set the right permissions
[01:12] <hamed> yes dork
[01:12] <hamed> yes dork
[01:13] <dork> hamed: that was a statement
[01:13] <Deltatash> my laptop auto connects to the wireless router np if thats what you mean and interent works fine np to
[01:14] <hamed> how can i change permission to /var/www
[01:14] <dork> Deltatash: you can authenticate to APs with your current wireless interface?
[01:14] <Deltatash> yeah
[01:14] <ubuntu_lappy> Am I in the right place to ask for help installing ubuntu?
[01:14] <mebigfatguy1> hamed: sudo chmod ??? /var/www
[01:15] <cypher-neo> ubuntu_lappy, Yes you are
[01:15] <mebigfatguy1> ubuntu_lappy: you'll be the judge of that after asking questions
[01:15] <Deltatash> any idea what my problem is dork ? :(
[01:16] <dork> Deltatash: so you're authenticated to the right AP, and you need to add a network to the same interface right?
[01:16] <Deltatash> huh ? yeah im on the right AP there is no other here
[01:16] <Deltatash> but what has the AP got to do with the graphics driver problem not installing :s
[01:16] <cypher-neo> ubuntu_lappy, What questions do you have?
[01:16] <Elems> Is it possible to move an Ext4 partition?
[01:17] <dork> Deltatash: sorry it's my real life birthday and i amd rinking real life whiskey so trying to remember these problems
[01:17] <dork> haha
[01:17] <ubuntu_lappy> Ok, I have a laptop with two hard drives.  I want to install ubuntu on the same drive that I have windows 7.  But when choosing partitions in the installer, it only seems to want to install in the other hard drive or erase the hdd with windows and install there.
[01:17] <cypher-neo> Elems, Yes, possible... https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Partitioning/Home/Moving
[01:17] <dork> i should probaby just stop since i am probably a liablility at this point
[01:17] <Peyam> hi
[01:18] <Peyam> Please help me with this problem http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1898027
[01:18] <ubuntu_lappy> I'm not certain what I'm missing, but is there a way I can resize the windows 7 partition and install ubuntu on that drive?
[01:18] <Deltatash> lol np dork
[01:19] <Deltatash> happy birthday btw :P
[01:19] <Deltatash> but basically my problem is I went to System > Administration > Hardware Drivers
[01:20] <Deltatash> I chose my ati graphics card and clicked Activate driver it downloaded and apparently installed and said i needed to restart for changes to take effect
[01:20] <urlin2u> ubuntu_lappy, how many partitions are on the one with W7
[01:20] <xb_chad> dork. Actually, I see this: To detect and debug this, you can use the xev(1) tool. To block X11 from processing the event, you must remove all keysyms from the offending keycode. Please  see  the
[01:20] <xb_chad>        manpage for xmodmap(1) for more information. So I'll start there.
[01:21] <Deltatash> i restarted and then the graphics is really choppy like there is no 3D acceleration :s but i go back to hardware drivers and the driver is apparently not installed and it wont let me install it i get this error message
[01:21] <Elems> cypher-neo my issue is that I have an extended partition in between two unallocated spaces and I can't seem to move it all the way "to the left" to get the unallocated spaces to combine into one unallocated space
[01:21] <DemonWitch> does the con-kolivas patched-kernel offer better responsiveness/performance for desktop systems?
[01:21] <_rb_> Trying to install a printer driver from a deb package but not taking my password. I think it wants the root password. Solutions?
[01:21] <ubuntu_lappy> urlin2u, 2.  One for the OS and one for recovery.
[01:21] <Deltatash> Sorry, the installation of this driver failed.
[01:21] <Deltatash> Please have a look at the log file for details.: /var/log/jockey.log
[01:21] <urlin2u> Elems, turn off the swap
[01:22] <Elems> urlin2u even if I'm using paragon partition from the windows installation on this computer?
[01:22] <Deltatash> I cant even "disable" it to go back to the open source driver which was working...now im stuck with choppy graphcis that lag when i move windows :/ its so annoying
[01:22] <urlin2u> ubuntu_lappy, are you sure have you looked at the HD with gparted?
[01:23] <urlin2u> Elems, not familiar with paragon, does the extended contai?n linux
[01:23] <ubuntu_lappy> urlin2u, no I have not done that.  I just played around with a live usb for a bit before trying to install and then coming on here.  I'll double check with gparted.
[01:23] <Elems> urlin2u yea the extended has ext4 and swap
[01:24] <Deltatash> anyone any ideas ? :/ otherwise im left with an almost useless ubuntu system through an error which was from an automatic process by ubuntu I didnt do anything to break it :/
[01:24] <urlin2u> ubuntu_lappy, look with gparted the limit is 4 primaries or 3 and a extended, you would resize thw windows with its virtual partitoner, and backup everything before hand.
[01:25] <dpierce> i finally installed oneiric and its keeping parts of the old gtk theme. plus instead of the regular black background i had, now its lime green. any way to remedy this?
[01:25] <dpierce> its quite annoying
[01:25] <Deltatash> anyone ? :/
[01:25] <urlin2u> Elems, I would use gparted from a live cd, when you move the ext4 if you do it will need grub reloaded to the mbr unless you change the fstab to /dev/sdXX rather then a uuid.
[01:26] <_rb_> had to set the root password to install a driver. How do I get it back to what it was?
[01:26] <dpierce> Deltatash:  are you using nvidia?
[01:26] <Deltatash> ATI
[01:26] <Deltatash> do you need to see my jockey.log?
[01:26] <ubuntu_lappy> urlin2u, so I would need to resize the windows partition before installing ubuntu?
[01:27] <ubuntu_lappy> that's not something the installer can do?
[01:27] <dpierce> i cant help you with ati :) but pastebin'n the log wont hurt. give others a chance to figure out what the problem is.
[01:27] <Elems> urlin2u gparted would be able to move my extended partition? I'm not concerned with grub because I got a repair thing on a usb stick I've been using to restore grub. this computer doesn't have a CD drive and I'm short on flash drives so I was hesitant on using gparted
[01:27] <Deltatash> ok ill link it now
[01:28] <urlin2u> ubuntu_lappy, if there is no free unallocated space to put a extended in within the partition limits I gave yes.
[01:28] <Deltatash> its really just the hardware drivers tool cant load the driver list or something I think so it is stopping me form installing the driver :( i dont know how to fix it
[01:28] <Deltatash> anyway ill pastebin now
[01:28] <urlin2u> Elems, yes always use gparted even for windows except resizing windows. gparted can resize widows but its virtual partitioner is generally recomended.
[01:29] <Deltatash> here you go dpierce https://gist.github.com/1515849
[01:29] <ubuntu_lappy> urlin2u, Ok, thanks for the help.  I'll install gparted and check it out.  Be back in a few.
[01:30] <urlin2u> ubuntu_lappy, no problem.
[01:30] <Deltatash> pastebin dont seem to load for some reason I think it is down so had to use another site but if you wouldnt mind wpuld be ggreat if you could have a look at that becuase I dont know how to fix it or undo what happened to get back the Open Source driver which worked :(
[01:30] <Deltatash> If i cant fix this ill have to format just to get working graphics..wtf? that is a windows thing lol...
[01:31] <urlin2u> ubuntu_lappy, just take heed the partition amount, if you exceed it you will make your HD dynamic at best, not a good thing.
[01:31] <qmanjr5> I get http://pastebin.com/qLZdbuBH when trying to install gimpressionist. How do I fix this?
[01:32] <ubuntu_lappy> urlin2u; ah, it looks like there are 3 partitions already on the drive.  One for the os, one for recovery, and one called DellUtility, which is only 40 megs.
[01:32] <Deltatash> any idea ?
[01:32] <urlin2u> ubuntu_lappy, no boot partition?
[01:34] <Deltatash> guess im gonna have to re format ? >.<
[01:34] <urlin2u> ubuntu_lappy, I suggest gparted to look it is on the live cd, to look at the HD as it will show all of the partitions, the windows partitioner sometimes doesn't.
[01:34] <ubuntu_lappy> urlin2u, I'm not sure exactly what a boot partition would be, but Gparted says the three partitions on the disk I want are labeled DellUtility (fat16/40megs), RECOVERY (nfts/15gig), and OS(nfts/450gig)
[01:34] <keithclark> I hope someone can help here.  We just installed a new dual monitor nvidia card on our computer and it worked out great until we tried to enable compiz functionality.  Now I get no menu bar at the top of the screen or the application bar on the left of the screen.  The machine has become useless.  Any way to correct, or just start from scratch?
[01:35] <xangua> qmanjr5: isn't it already incluided¿ http://docs.gimp.org/en/plug-in-gimpressionist.html
[01:35] <Deltatash> brb restarting to try something
[01:36] <rcmaehl> How do I close off port 10000?
[01:36] <urlin2u> ubuntu_lappy, cool just shrink the one needed come back to ubuntu and put a extended in the unallocated then the ext4 and swap in the extended and do a custom install choosing the other option in the install gui, and point the install at the ext4 and use /as the mount
[01:37] <fokkel> rcmaehl, ufw/iptables should be default deny.  So all you have to do to deny it is not allow it.
[01:37] <rcmaehl> for some reason it's allowing data
[01:37] <rcmaehl> :\
[01:37] <fokkel> rcmaehl, is it a reverse port on an established connection?
[01:38] <fokkel> rcmaehl, how do you know it's allowing data?
[01:38] <ubuntu_lappy> urlin2u, Ok I'll give that a shot.
[01:38] <rcmaehl> gcc's shields up
[01:38] <Hero> !ubottu
[01:38] <rcmaehl> all other ports I've tested report as stealth
[01:38] <urlin2u> ubuntu_lappy, you may know some of that already, just making sure. :D
[01:38] <rcmaehl> except port 10000
[01:38] <fokkel> rcmaehl, i know about shields up, but why do you nmap it from another machine?  can you do that?
[01:39] <rcmaehl> yes
[01:39] <fokkel> rcmaehl, sorry i meant why don't you?
[01:39] <rcmaehl> I already did
[01:39] <ubuntu_lappy> urlin2u, No I really had no clue.  I love how helpful the free software community is!
[01:39] <rcmaehl> got my friend to
[01:39] <fokkel> rcmaehl, okay then try this (give me a second to type cmd)
[01:40] <fokkel> rcmaehl, "sudo ufw deny proto tcp from any port 10000"
[01:41] <rcmaehl> will this require a reboot?
[01:42] <fokkel> rcmaehl, no but check it with this:  "sudo ufw status numbered"
[01:42] <fokkel> rcmaehl, just make sure you see the rule there, then nmap it again (or run shields up)
[01:42] <rcmaehl> Status: inactive
[01:42] <fokkel> rcmaehl, ah, i see.  then run "sudo ufw enable"
[01:43] <almoxarife> !info gufw
[01:43] <keithclark> anyone with a fix for my compiz issue?  My machine is useless at the moment
[01:43] <Gaming4JC> !pdf
[01:43] <Gaming4JC> bah.
[01:43] <Gaming4JC> Can anyone help me with PDF Fields on Ubuntu
[01:43] <Gaming4JC> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=11560778#post11560778 <-- :)
[01:44] <fokkel> rcmaehl, is it showing active now?
[01:45] <rcmaehl> yes
[01:45] <fokkel> Gaming4JC, what kind of fields?
[01:45] <fokkel> rcmaehl, good then run the other command to check the rule, then scan the port.
[01:46] <Gaming4JC> fokkel: interactive fields, I need to be able to create them for a document. :/
[01:46] <Gaming4JC> fokkel: the IRS uses them all the time, as anaylized here http://www.planetpdf.com/enterprise/article.asp?ContentID=6500
[01:46] <ubuntu_lappy> urlin2u, I've resized the windows partition and put an extended partition in the unallocated space.  Any suggestions on how much swap partition vs ext4 partition I should make?
[01:48] <urlin2u> ubuntu_lappy, swap is usually equal to ram or greater fro hibernation, ext4 as big as you would want for the OS, you can put multiple operating systems in a extended
[01:48] <fokkel> Gaming4JC, i don't know much about pdf forms, but you might take a look at this:  http://www.scribus.net/canvas/Scribus
[01:48] <rcmaehl> Okay, it's reporting stealth now
[01:48] <urlin2u> fro-=for*
[01:48] <rcmaehl> Thanks
[01:48] <fokkel> rcmaehl, no problem :)
[01:50] <Gaming4JC> fokkel: Thanks for that, it says it has PDF text fields, might be the same thing I'll check it out. :)
[01:50] <keithclark> Anyone with an idea before completely wipe this computer?
[01:51] <DrPenguin> keithclark: repeat your problem, I just got here
[01:52] <keithclark> I am having a problem with my newly installed nvidia card.  It worked great until compiz was turned on.  Now no menu bar at the top.  No unity bar on the side.  REally the computer is useless now
[01:53] <Gaming4JC> keithclark: have you tried disabling compiz since then?
[01:53] <DrPenguin> keithclark: have you been able to turn compiz back off?
[01:54] <keithclark> DrPenguin, how?  I can't start anything. I tried to remove compiz via sudo apt-get remove compiz.  Rebooted and same problem
[01:54] <DrPenguin> keithclark: have you tried loading in some failsafe envirnment? there should be a few failsafe sessions available to you at login
[01:55] <keithclark> DrPenguin, then what?
[01:55] <DrPenguin> keithclark: do you have a menu bar and all the goodies available to you?
[01:55] <keithclark> DrPenguin, in the safe mode?
[01:55] <DrPenguin> in whatever fail safe mode your in
[01:55] <ubuntu_lappy> Alright, thanks again for the help.  I'm gonna go back up all my stuff and then get cracking.
[01:56] <keithclark> DrPenguin, rebooting
[01:56] <DrPenguin> you dnt neeed to reboot.. >_>
[01:57] <keithclark> DrPenguin, well it just rebooted back into the same user anyways. Ok, how to fix?
[01:57] <DrPenguin> back into the same user..? I dont understand. we are obviously using the same user but a different login session
[01:58] <Elems> How can I move my extended partition that contains swap and ext4 ubuntu using gparted live cd? I'm in gparted right now but it won't let me move the extended partition
[01:59] <keithclark> DrPenguin, ok.  Here I am logged in.  No menu bars.  No unity app bar. Just a desktop with icons
[02:00] <DrPenguin> keithclark: what session did you login as?
[02:00] <keithclark> >Normal
[02:00] <DrPenguin> keithclark: … why. Thats not a failsafe session
[02:01] <tjiggi_fo> Elems, to where would you like to, or expect to, move it?
[02:01] <jmscomtech> just curious the wubi is that virtualised?
[02:02] <DrPenguin> jmcantrell: wubi isnt virtualized, its a native boot, just uses a file on your Windows drive as a virtual disk
[02:02] <Elems> tjiggi_fo "to the left". right now its an extended partition surrounded by two unallocated spaces, which I'd like to have as one big unallocated space.
[02:02] <keithclark> DrPenguin, just recovery is available.  Trying it now
[02:03] <keithclark> DrPenguin, failsafeX?
[02:03] <DrPenguin> keithclark: yeah
[02:03] <jmscomtech> hmm so how how can it not be virtulised if it uses a virtual disk?
[02:03] <jmscomtech> im so confused about it
[02:03] <Rayston> anyone here use Amarok?
[02:04] <rypervenche> Rayston: Nope^^
[02:04] <DrPenguin> jmcantrell: because its not? Just because its a virtual disk doesnt mean its a Virtual Machine. The file just serves as the hard drive for Ubuntu
[02:04] <keithclark> DrPenguin, ok, booted and I have access to the menu
[02:04] <tjiggi_fo> Elems, I can't help you with that, sorry. Just ask every 15 mins or so till you find someone who can
[02:04] <DrPenguin> keithclark: cool beans, now you should be able to use ccms to disable all the compiz junk you dont want
[02:04] <jmscomtech> ohh
[02:04] <|Shay|> cypher-neo: So I purged Unity Compiz lightdm and installed gnome-shell guess what I have over RDP? Working Unity MIND BLOWN @.@
[02:05] <jmscomtech> so would be best to run wubi than a normal install or normal install still better? i have win7 atm but want to test one aspect of buntu before i go all hog is it were
[02:06] <DrPenguin> jmcantrell: if you wanna test ubuntu, you could just use a live disc or VM since you can use ubuntu while your in win 7
[02:06] <jmscomtech> no for wat i wont to test neither of them will  work
[02:07] <DrPenguin> jmcantrell: "what" do you want to test?
[02:07] <jmscomtech> as i need to have libbluray and xbmc compiled
[02:07] <keithclark> DrPenguin, nope, still didn't work
[02:07] <DrPenguin> keithclark: your obviously not doing something right
[02:07] <almoxarife> jmscomtech: I used wubi for the longest time, it worked for me
[02:07] <DrPenguin> jmcantrell: aaaaand why does a VM or live boot stop you from being able to do that?
[02:07] <keithclark> DrPenguin, wobbly off, cube off, everything else off
[02:08] <jmscomtech> want to test those withnormal bluray movies to see if it will support playbac without need for dumphd i doubt it but worth a test, also i need to test wether ubuntu supports my sound card
[02:08] <DrPenguin> keithclark: you obviously did something else that is breaking your unity session then
[02:08] <jmscomtech> so far as i can tell no other linux flavour does
[02:08] <keithclark> DrPenguin, not sure, my son told me that was all he did
[02:08] <DrPenguin> jmscomtech: then a Live boot can definitely accomplish that.. or install ubuntu to a flash drive with some persistent storage
[02:08] <DrPenguin> keithclark: what about what *you* did? you removed compiz you said.. anything else you did?
[02:09] <keithclark> DrPenguin, nope
[02:09] <jmscomtech> Drpenguin: virtual software do not anllow a bluray playback as of yet
[02:09] <DrPenguin> jmcantrell: when your in a live boot your not virutal
[02:09] <DrPenguin> wromg person, jmscomtech
[02:09] <DrPenguin> also, a flash drive install also isnt virtual
[02:10] <Inter-Folk> Just installed Linux Mint 12 - Neither wired ( cable connected directly to my router) nor wireless connection working ( Broadcom STA ). Says unplugged for the wired, and of course no wirelress detection for my driver.
[02:10] <jmscomtech> so i can install my nvidia drivers, libbluray and compile xbmc from source to test in live cd i dont thinkso
[02:10] <DrPenguin> jmscomtech: you actually can
[02:10] <xangua> !mint | Inter-Folk
[02:10] <Elems> tjiggi_fo I'm going to try expanding the extended to the left then moving the ext4, so far its working. then I shoiuld be able to shrink the extended from the right. Thanks though
[02:10] <DrPenguin> jmscomtech: Ive installed drivers and tested things on live discs before installing a Linux environment
[02:10] <Inter-Folk> Alright, thanks xangua.
[02:10] <keithclark> DrPenguin, I assume time to scrap?
[02:11] <DrPenguin> keithclark: no? theres no reason to scrap.. figure out what else your son did. Just enabling compiz wouldnt cause all these breaks, esp if you disabled them.. does your version of ubuntu still use metacity as its window manager?
[02:11] <ShawnRisk> I can't print anything from my Brother-HL-5250DN on Ubuntu 11.10, how do I fix this?  I have installed CUPs to look at settings but no luck so far.
[02:11] <keithclark> DrPenguin, who knows
[02:11] <jmscomtech> well the things is im getting at is sorry for not making it clear before is if it works the way i want i will have no need for winblows
[02:11] <DrPenguin> keithclark: find out?
[02:12] <keithclark> DrPenguin, I'm a simple user here
[02:12] <DrPenguin> keithclark: so?
[02:12] <smw> what is the name of the default cd burner?
[02:12] <DrPenguin> keithclark: doesnt mean you can just throw your hands in the air and be like whatever
[02:12] <fokkel> Inter-Folk, he's right of course, you probably want the mint forum. but open the terminal and try "sudo ifup eth0" if you haven't already.
[02:13] <DrPenguin> smw: is it brasero? I know thats A burner.. but dunno if its the default one
[02:13] <keithclark> DrPenguin, ok, not sure what to do here
[02:13] <almoxarife> keithclark: stop the madness, re-install ubuntu-desktop (assuming it is the problem desktop), sort of fixes itself, unless course someone went all scriptkidee on the conf files
[02:13] <_rb_> what do I need to get to edit settings for the app bar?
[02:14] <_rb_> app bar not auothiding
[02:14] <keithclark> almoxarife, so just sudo apt-get reinstall ubuntu-desktop?
[02:15] <almoxarife> keithclark: yeap
[02:15] <fokkel> _rb_, i assume you meant the panel at the top of your screen.  right-click on it, go to properties and click auto-hide
[02:15] <smw> DrPenguin, sounds right
[02:16] <keithclark> almoxarife, invalid operation
[02:17] <hikenboot1> anyone in here good with git?
[02:18] <smw> DrPenguin, thanks
[02:18] <almoxarife> keithclark: must it be done via apt-get? what's wrong with a nice gui like 'synaptic'???
[02:18] <jmscomtech> its easy enough to remove the linux i spose its just a matter of doing a repair with win7 disk and in command prompt runing the bootrec.exe
[02:18] <hikenboot1> https://github.com/zfsonlinux/zfs/issues/187  <at the bottom it says 2cf7f52 is the point i need to set git at so that it fixes my problem how do i do this?
[02:18] <fokkel> keithclark, i don't think apt-get has a reinstall command.  try apt-get remove [pkg-name], then apt-get install [pkg-name"
[02:18] <keithclark> almoxarife, How do I get to that without menus?
[02:18] <ShawnRisk> seems no one can help me
[02:18] <fokkel> keithclark, not sure what's going to happen if you're logged to the desktop when you install it....
[02:19] <almoxarife> keithclark: you are stuck in terminal?
[02:19] <fokkel> keithclark, so you're at console?  then just issues those commands.
[02:19] <DrPenguin> hes in a Unity session, - unity
[02:19] <keithclark> fokkel, yeah, I'm thinking I'm screwed here
[02:19] <usr13> fokkel: apt-get does have --reinstall ... FYI
[02:19] <fokkel> usr13, sorry, my mistake
[02:20] <almoxarife> keithclark: follow fokkel's instructions
[02:20] <usr13> ... just fyi ...
[02:20] <almoxarife> keithclark: did you start apt-get with 'sudo'???
[02:20] <keithclark> almoxarife, yes
[02:21] <almoxarife> keithclark: copy paste to your console                            sudo apt-get reinstall ubuntu-desktop
[02:22] <keithclark> almoxarife, how can I possibly do that?????
[02:22] <xcode> keithclark: Ctrl + Shift + V to paste
[02:22] <almoxarife> keithclark: what am I missing?
[02:22] <keithclark> I'm on a different machine typing here.  Problem machine is useless at the moment
[02:23] <kkk> ;;
[02:23] <almoxarife> keithclark: so where did the 'invalid command' thing come from?
[02:23] <DrPenguin> almoxarife: I had him boot into a failsafe X mode.. he probably has a window manager in there
[02:23] <keithclark> almoxarife,  I retyped the error
[02:24] <keithclark> DrPenguin, I tried your fixes and have rebooted as normal.
[02:24] <DrPenguin> keithclark: yeah and like I said.. your missing something
[02:24] <keithclark> DrPenguin, what????
[02:24] <fokkel> keithclark, ok you're running back and forth between 2 machines.  so write down the command almoxarife gave you and type it into the problem machine.
[02:25] <keithclark> fokkel, I did
[02:25] <keithclark> fokkel, invalid command
[02:26] <keithclark> Sorry, invalid operation:reinstall
[02:26] <almoxarife> keithclark: sudo apt-get update <-- run that, what does it return?
[02:26] <fokkel> keithclark, so try replacing "reinstall" with remove.  let us know the response.
[02:26] <DrPenguin> isnt reinstall an option passed to apt-get install?
[02:26] <DrPenguin> right in the man page its a flag, not a command issued to apt-get
[02:27] <keithclark> fokkel, that is working
[02:27] <keithclark> fokkel, done
[02:27] <fokkel> keithclark, okay then replace "remove" with "install"
[02:27] <almoxarife> keithclark: both parts of fokkels command?
[02:28] <keithclark> fokkel, working
[02:28] <fokkel> keithclark, if it completes successfully, try "startx"
[02:29] <DrPenguin> fokkel: he has an X Server running
[02:29] <DrPenguin> thatl error out
[02:29] <almoxarife> keithclark: reboot!
[02:29] <fokkel> keithclark, what they said. lol
[02:29] <keithclark> No worries
[02:29] <almoxarife> keithclark: reboot!
[02:29] <keithclark> rebooting
[02:30] <gary> Hello!
[02:30] <fokkel> keithclark, ok. 4 man job but it might get done.
[02:30] <Guest40669> Does anybody know why the search feature in the menubar wouldn't return any applications?
[02:31] <almoxarife> Guest40669: the term you used does not exist?
[02:31] <keithclark> fokkel, nope, still screwed
[02:31] <fokkel> keithclark, what did it say after reboot?
[02:31] <Guest40669> no, it definitely does... it just won't come up at all
[02:31] <almoxarife> keithclark: describe 'screwed'
[02:31] <keithclark> almoxarife, same as before
[02:31] <almoxarife> Guest40669: the term you used does not exist? what term?
[02:31] <Guest40669> I have to go to /usr/share/apps to get to any applications...
[02:32] <Guest40669> say, xchat or vlc
[02:32] <DrPenguin> Guest2384678: wha? that doesnt make sense, application launcher should show you apps
[02:32] <almoxarife> keithclark: describe 'screwed' , for the ones that didn't see it before
[02:32] <wolfmitchell> I need a way to give Ubuntu more than 16 gig for running with windows. How do I do this?
[02:32] <Guest40669> If I type that tight now, nothing comes up...
[02:32] <keithclark> almoxarife, icons on desktop, nothing more
[02:32] <DrPenguin> wolfmitchell: what do you mean by what your aksin
[02:32] <wolfmitchell> Keep in mind that I  am admin only on Ubuntu, not Windows.
[02:33] <almoxarife> Guest40669: the term you used does not exist? what term? are those apps installed?
[02:33] <fokkel> keithclark, so you have a desktop with icons on it.  what's missing?
[02:33] <xangua> wolfmitchell: make a partition¿
[02:33] <keithclark> fokkel, menus
[02:33] <wolfmitchell> I am running Ubuntu 11.10 with Wubi, and it gave Ubuntu only 16 out of 250 gig. Ubuntu thinks it is a partition, yet it is not actually a partition to windows, so I can not make it bigger.
[02:33] <Guest40669> almoxarife: the apps do exist, say vlc or xchatr
[02:33] <fokkel> keithclark, okay try moving your mouse pointer to the top of the screen.  does the panel appear?
[02:34] <Guest40669> *xchat
[02:34] <wolfmitchell> And it did not prompt me for size.
[02:34] <keithclark> fokkel, nope
[02:34] <keithclark> fokkel, no top menu bar, no app bar on the left
[02:34] <xangua> wolfmitchell: so make a reall install then
[02:34] <almoxarife> keithclark: does your machine auto-log in? if not, what desktop is the default?
[02:34] <wolfmitchell> Can't . Have to run w/ Windows.
[02:34] <fokkel> keithclark, it sounds like everything's okay except that your menu bar is hidden....
[02:34] <DrPenguin> wolfmitchell: if you have to run windows, then how are you using wubi
[02:35] <almoxarife> Guest40669: I know they exist, but are they installed?
[02:35] <wolfmitchell> ...Wubi installs it with Windows.
[02:35] <DrPenguin> wolfmitchell: just use Logical Disk Manager to shrink off a piece of your hard drive and dualboot
[02:35] <DrPenguin> wolfmitchell: yeah.. but its still a dual boot
[02:35] <keithclark> fokkel, When I do start an application via icon it has no window borders
[02:35] <xangua> !dualinstall | wolfmitchell
[02:35] <Guest40669> almoxarife: I'm sorry, I wasn't clear enough... yes, they are installed
[02:35] <xangua> !dualboot | wolfmitchell
[02:35] <wolfmitchell> I am dualbooting right now.
[02:35] <DrPenguin> wolfmitchell: this will have you do a real dualboot
[02:36] <DrPenguin> not the PITA one of wubi
[02:36] <almoxarife> wolfmitchell: the ubuntu is a wubi install?
[02:36] <wolfmitchell> Yes.
[02:36] <Guest40669> almoxarife: they exist in /usr/share/applications, and I search for the exact term, say "vlc"
[02:36] <almoxarife> Guest40669: that is indeed a mystery then
[02:36] <keithclark> I think I'm screwed here!
[02:37] <fokkel> keithclark, it sounds like the theme/appearance has been modified, so
[02:37] <fokkel> keithclark, try going to system>preferences>appearance and see if anything looks off there.
[02:37] <DrPenguin> fokkel: its not that, his window manager is fooked
[02:37] <Guest40669> almoxarife: yes, and frustrating, because if you don't know where to go, you're screwed!!!
[02:37] <almoxarife> wolfmitchell: stop trying to change the size of the partion, there is no partition, it's a file in the windows world, look in the folder 'ubuntu'
[02:38] <wolfmitchell> What do I do there?
[02:38] <keithclark> DrPenguin, so pooched?\
[02:38] <fokkel> DrPenguin, okay, well then I'm not sure.  let me think a minute.
[02:38] <Guest40669> almoxarife: maybe a hint... There are only two icons on the bottom of the windowpane, the home icon and the music one... Is it narrowing the search to only the home folder?
[02:39] <|Shay|> Okay. So, if any of you caught what happened with unity segfaulting on me a few minutes ago. I've since purged unity lightdm and gdm, installed gnome-shell and rebooted. Unity now works.
[02:39] <xangua> wolfmitchell: like we have already told you, and also give you the instructions, make a reall install
[02:39] <Guest40669> almoxarife: why wouldn't there be more options, like apps?
[02:39] <DrPenguin> fokkel: all hes told us is he enabled compiz stuff in ccsm and then uninstalled compiz because he lost his window decorations and app dock
[02:40] <wolfmitchell> I can't. I have data that I can't back up, and I do not want to risk loosing it.
[02:40] <DrPenguin> wolfmitchell: how can you not back up the data?
[02:40] <almoxarife> Guest40669: no idea, I sort of gave up on unity/gnome and went hybrid kd4/gnome, a gno-ku? ,
[02:40] <xangua> wolfmitchell: then do nothing¿
[02:41] <Tech-1> lol gnoku
[02:41] <Tech-1> that should be a new distro
[02:41] <Guest40669> almoxarife: has kd4 worked out the bugs yet? last time I used, there were lots of little issues...
[02:41] <fokkel> keithclark, okay wait a minute then.  what about this:  http://ubuntugenius.wordpress.com/2011/05/21/ubuntu-11-04-fix-restore-missing-title-bars-window-borders-in-compiz-fusion/
[02:42] <fokkel> DrPenguin, it looks like that post (see above) addresses the same problem.
[02:42] <wolfmitchell> Well, then how do I increse the size. None of the instructions you gave helped me in this subject. You gave me tips on installing with Wubi
[02:42] <DrPenguin> wolfmitchell: you CANT increase the size
[02:42] <DrPenguin> wolfmitchell: its a file
[02:42] <DrPenguin> not a physical disk
[02:42] <wolfmitchell> Can I make the file into a partition?
[02:42] <almoxarife> wolfmitchell: dude, you really need to google some stuff, what you want is possible, google 'add a drive to wubi' or do what I did , use the space in the 'host', when in ubuntu you should see 'host' its your windows dir/folders
[02:42] <fokkel> keithclark, go to system>preferences>compiz settings manager
[02:43] <keithclark> fokkel, yeah, tried in safe mode
[02:43] <wolfmitchell> I am currently using that.,
[02:43] <keithclark> fokkel, or recovery
[02:43] <ubuntu_lappy> I'm trying to add a new partition using gparted, so that I can dual boot ubuntu and win 7.  But, gparted is giving me an error.  Does anyone know what I'm screwing up?
[02:43] <Guest40669> almoxarife: also, if I make the conversion, do you think it would be stable or have problems (like before...)
[02:43] <wolfmitchell> But that method is rather annoying.
[02:43] <DrPenguin> wolfmitchell: too bad?
[02:43] <fokkel> keithclark, sorry, thought I found something not tried yet.  if that's not it, I can walk you through recovering data before reinstall....
[02:43] <DrPenguin> you cant pick and choose on usable methods
[02:44] <keithclark> fokkel, nah, time to move on
[02:44] <wolfmitchell> And, apt-get and the software center, etc never prompt me for software install locations,
[02:44] <almoxarife> Guest40669: it runs fine here, plasma-workspace, and there is nothing to convert, just install it and use it
[02:44] <keithclark> fokkel, dangerous settings!
[02:45] <fokkel> keithclark, yes indeed.  but sorry couldn't help and good luck with the next.
[02:45] <keithclark> fokkel, damn, no media in the house now.  This computer is done for awhile
[02:45] <fokkel> keithclark, no usb drive?
[02:45] <keithclark> fokkel, yes, no media
[02:46] <keithclark> Damn, Christmas gift gone bad
[02:46] <fokkel> keithclark, ack.
[02:46] <wolfmitchell> It is starting to seem like Ubuntu is no longer Linux for Human Beings,
[02:46] <vouth> Hi, graphics 'composition' doesn't seem to be working right. For example, I'm getting a black box around my Cairo-dock without fake transparency. Help!! :-P
[02:46] <fokkel> wolfmitchell, install locations are semi-standard.  most of you install will end up in /usr/bin
[02:47] <DrPenguin> wolfmitchell: Any Linux is linux for human beings.. its not difficult
[02:47] <almoxarife> vouth: you sure you didn't start cairo-dock without gl?
[02:47] <ubuntu_lappy> urlin2u, I tried repartitioning my HDD like you suggested, but gparted is giving me an error.  Any idea what's up?
[02:47] <wolfmitchell> Meh,
[02:47] <wolfmitchell> On the site a while ago, I saw on the top 'Linux for Human Beings.
[02:48] <vouth> almoxarife: no idea :-D
[02:48] <vouth> but compiz isn't starting automatically either.
[02:48] <urlin2u> ubuntu_lappy, can you make a scrennshot of gparted and image-bin it.
[02:48] <almoxarife> vouth: there are two options to cairo-dock, with gl and without, which did you start?
[02:49] <keithclark> Yes, Ubuntu, stop being a phone/tablet interface and get your shit together!  My problem should never have happened
[02:49] <urlin2u> !imagebin | ubuntu_lappy
[02:49] <OffGridOps> recently got a compaq presario 1200 (mint condition) i run ubuntu 11.10 on other stuff is there a better version for something this old?  thanx!
[02:49] <vouth> almoxarife: In the Startup program thing, it runs: cairo-dock -c --keep-above
[02:50] <klj613> in ssh im logged in as root (sudo -s) how to I go back to being a regular user?
[02:50] <ubuntu_lappy> Ok, guys.  Will do.
[02:50] <vouth> almoxarife: It's always worked before, but I got a new computer recently. I swapped hard drives with my old box, and the composition did not then work.
[02:50] <almoxarife> vouth: change it to '-o' and do a log out/in
[02:50] <xangua> OffGridOps: there are Lubuntu and Xubuntu for low resources
[02:51] <vouth> almoxarife: Well since it worked before, I'd think it still would but ok, just a  minute…
[02:51] <OffGridOps> will research them thanx for the direction!  ;)
[02:51] <vouth> almoxarife: How do I log out?? Sorry :-D
[02:52] <phosphene> klj613: su username
[02:52] <klj613> phosphene: ty
[02:52] <almoxarife> vouth: restart it, that's as good
[02:52] <wolfmitchell> Is it possible to set up another partition and move the ubuntu files there, and just make shorcuts to the files?
[02:52] <vouth> almoxarife: It's a single user system and I've never logged out before. Ok will do, thanks. Just a minute then :-D
[02:53] <xangua> !dualboot | wolfmitchell
[02:54] <almoxarife> wolfmitchell: yes, but the partition will actually be a file, because its WUBI, and yes you will have lots of room, cause you can decide the size of the file/partion!
[02:54] <ubuntu_lappy> http://imagebin.org/190127 & http://imagebin.org/190128 are enough screenshots I hope.
[02:54] <xangua> and also the live cd has an option to install alongside windows usin the unallocated space wolfmitchell
[02:54] <wolfmitchell> Xan-Well, my friend did that, unable to use Windows,
[02:54] <wolfmitchell> *He is unable
[02:54] <DrPenguin> wolfmitchell: he probably screwed something up then
[02:55] <DrPenguin> doing a dualboot is braindead simple
[02:55] <vouth> almoxarif: back again but no cigar
[02:55] <keithclark> DrPenguin, don't assume please
[02:55] <wolfmitchell> He did nothing different. Just gave 1/2 his hard drive for Ubuntu, 1/2 for Windows. He is unable to access windows.
[02:56] <DrPenguin> keithclark: im not assuming anything. it IS brain dead simple. I did it with only a month of Linux experience
[02:56] <vouth> almoxarife: oops, sorry, left off an e.
[02:56] <almoxarife> vouth: what would the cigar be?
[02:56] <vouth> almoxarife: the composition :-D
[02:56] <vouth> almoxarife: still an ugly black box.
[02:56] <almoxarife> vouth: you mean , seeing black bar?
[02:56] <keithclark> DrPenguin, right and nobody can fix my problem.  I have 4 years experience
[02:56] <vouth> almoxarife: yup.
[02:57] <vouth> almoxarife: It's just a single icon though so all it is is the box. I'll send you a screenshot…
[02:57] <DrPenguin> keithclark: if you got 4 years experience, your more than capable of fixing it on your own then arent ya? :P
[02:57] <keithclark> Obviously no, and neither does anyone here
[02:57] <xangua> !patience | keithclark
[02:58] <xangua> mmm that was not the exact factoid i wanted, but answers are not always aviable keithclark
[02:59] <almoxarife> vouth: ok
[02:59] <vouth> almoxarife: http://image.bayimg.com/oalkbaadi.jpg
[02:59] <ubuntu_lappy> urlin2u, were the screenshots http://imagebin.org/190127 and http://imagebin.org/190128 enough, or should I take more?
[03:01] <almoxarife> vouth: how come that desktop looks nothing like a classic ubuntu?
[03:01] <vouth> almoxarife: I just kept tweaking it until I liked it :-D
[03:01] <vouth> It's a bit out of date — 10.10 — but at least it's stable.
[03:02] <keithclark> No worries, his machine is done.
[03:02] <almoxarife> vouth: ok, fair enough, have you ever run cairo-dock on that desktop?
[03:03] <vouth> almoxarife: yup, that's what I had before my old machine broke. Here are some screenshots of what I had going previously: https://docs.google.com/leaf?id=0B0bE2U3xkWwCMDQzZmMzY2QtYzcyNy00OTZlLWIzYmQtZGM4ZTMwMDdkOWNj&hl=en_US https://docs.google.com/leaf?id=0B0bE2U3xkWwCMzFkZTNmZjAtZmJkMS00ODAzLTgxMTEtZDc4NzgxNjE0MjZi&hl=en_US https://docs.google.com/leaf?id=0B0bE2U3xkWwCMDJmMDlhMjUtODJjNS00ZDY2LThkN2MtMjIzYzNjYjI2MmQ1&hl=en_US https://doc
[03:03] <vouth> s.google.com/leaf?id=0B0bE2U3xkWwCYWZmZjNkZjctMGM0MC00MjA2LTk0MGMtMmQ5NTJhNjcyN2Yx&hl=en_US
[03:04] <nayan> hai
[03:04] <keithclark> I must admit.  Sad little boy on a Christmas Gift day
[03:04] <vouth> almoxarife: obviously I've changed the wallpaper, icon set, and theme colors since then, and upgraded to the 3.2 kernel (and some other little updates), but otherwise it's still the same thing.
[03:04] <urlin2u> ubuntu_lappy, I can't get the screen hold on I think the firefox browser is having problems.
[03:05] <ubuntu_lappy> urlin2u, gotcha.  No rush :)
[03:05] <wolfmitchell> Ugh. Seriously, can I just make a new partition for Ubuntu, move the files to there, and make shortcuts to the file's new location??
[03:05] <almoxarife> vouth: did I miss something, I didn't see cairo-dock in the pics
[03:06] <xangua> wolfmitchell: we have already told you how
[03:06] <tinybird> Hi, all
[03:06] <wolfmitchell> ...
[03:06] <almoxarife> vouth: 3.2 kernel on 10.10?
[03:07] <tinybird> What shall I do if I want to install softwares on Ubuntu 8.10 using "apt-get install"?
[03:07] <xangua> tinybird: upgrade to a supported ubuntu version
[03:07] <wolfmitchell> 1st off: I have no live CD/USB. 2nd off: I am not going to risk changing the MBR to one that might not work w/ Windows.
[03:07] <tinybird> It seems that intrepid is not been supported now
[03:08] <DrPenguin> wolfmitchell: then dont change the damn MBR. You can install grub onto your ubuntu root partition and boot off THAT. Grub will be aware of Windows and you can boot off it
[03:08] <keithclark> Thanks to all that tried to help.  Never worked so moving on.  Maybe Mint?
[03:08] <wolfmitchell> Ah.
[03:08] <tinybird> xangua: Any other methods?
[03:08] <DrPenguin> wolfmitchell: quit bugging us.. this is stuff weve given you info on, for real. Your supposed to survive on Linux? Imo you shouldnt be using it
[03:08] <vouth> almoxarife: 1. Cairo dock is what's making the 'W' menu at the bottom of the screen (the menu was expanded in https://docs.google.com/leaf?id=0B0bE2U3xkWwCYWZmZjNkZjctMGM0MC00MjA2LTk0MGMtMmQ5NTJhNjcyN2Yx&hl=en_US ). 2. 3.2.0-030200rc6-generic i686 according to "System Information".
[03:09] <bastidrazor> DrPenguin: don't be an ass. its a learning process.
[03:09] <DrPenguin> bastidrazor: its not being an ass. Weve linked him so much information hes blatently ignoring
[03:09] <wolfmitchell> ...
[03:09] <vouth> tinybird: 1. find the package name. 2. execute sudo apt-get install [package name]
[03:09] <iToast> test
[03:09] <vouth> tinybird: If I remember correctly of course, but I think that's how to do it :-) <3
[03:10] <ke_> am i here?
[03:10] <DrPenguin> nope, your there
[03:11] <tinybird> vouth: it's available only if the Ubuntu version is still supported
[03:11] <vouth> almoxarife: what's available only if?
[03:11] <edbian> ke_, no
[03:12] <vouth> tinybird, vouth: oh dam, sorry, I'm mixing conversations here.
[03:12] <ke_> good, ty Dr...i'm trying out ubuntu from flash drive....can i run apps in trial mode, or do i need to load?
[03:12] <tinybird> but my ubuntu version is 8.10, which has not been supported
[03:12] <vouth> tinybird: oh, weird. That's a crappy thing to do.
[03:13] <DrPenguin> ke_: ofcourse you can try em yeah, if you set up your ubuntu key too, you can actually make persistent changes to it
[03:13] <urlin2u> ubuntu_lappy, not sure but try jus the extended if not then run it then the ext4 logical and swap.
[03:13] <almoxarife> wolfmitchell: I remember being in your shoes, I was dead afraid of losing mbr, I don't blame you, you need to understand the 'wubi' version of ubuntu, it's a bit diff than the installed into a partion version, from within ubuntu you can acess space on the base system, that's windows, I did, its not some secret terminal kidde-script thing, look at the dir tree within ubuntu, look for 'host'
[03:13] <edbian> ke_, ummm, you can run them.  You're running IRC right now?
[03:13] <keithclark> So my sons machine is beat?
[03:13] <ubuntu_lappy> urlin2u, Thanks for trying.  I'll try only making the extended partition.
[03:13] <urlin2u> ubuntu_lappy, making a extended and the other two together may be the problem
[03:13] <vouth> tinybird: so does that mean that once 10.10 is no longer supported I won't be able to install or update anything??
[03:13] <almoxarife> vouth: got it, cairo has one button?
[03:14] <vouth> almoxarife: yup
[03:14] <edbian> almostroot, He's not here
[03:14] <vouth> almoxarife: just the single 'W' centered at the bottom of the screen.
[03:15] <urlin2u> ubuntu_lappy, the thing is when you have not perfectly sized partitions trying to stuff three in one limited space altogether may have a glitch once in a while.
[03:15] <almoxarife> vouth: its in black because of your graphics, system wide graphics, are the drivers for opengl installed?
[03:15] <ke_> DrPenguin, edbian:  what is ubuntu key....right now i'm running irc from webchat.freenode.net
[03:15] <DrPenguin> ke_: your.. ubuntu flash drive?
[03:15] <edbian> ke_, what?
[03:15] <edbian> ke_, there is no 'ubuntu key'
[03:15] <edbian> ke_, there is probably a channel in your native language
[03:16] <ke_> DrPenguin yes flash drive
[03:16] <DrPenguin> edbian: he has an ubuntu key :P
[03:16] <edbian> DrPenguin, oh
[03:17] <ikpL> where can I get some ubuntu stickers for my laptop ?
[03:17] <vouth> almoxarife: I think so. I have a bunch of things prefixed with libdrm installed anyway
[03:17] <xangua> ikpL: on the canonical store¿
[03:18] <ke_> DrPenguin,    yes, i'm running from flash drive
[03:18] <ikpL> can I get it for free xangua
[03:18] <xangua> make them yourseld¿
[03:18] <edbian> ikpL, No, but very cheap
[03:18] <ubuntu_lappy> urlin2u, I still get an error when just trying to make an extended partition.  Could you please specify what you mean by "perfectly sized partitions"?  Should I be trying to make my partitions only in full integer sizes or something?
[03:18] <ikpL> ok I will see edbian
[03:19] <ke_> DrPenguin :    do i need to actually install ubuntu to run the apps?
[03:19] <DrPenguin> ke_: wha? Ubuntu *is* installed on the key
[03:19] <vouth> almoxarife: I also just installed 'Mesa' from source because I didn't have it installed
[03:20] <edbian> ke_, no
[03:20] <edbian> ke_, just run some app!
[03:20] <vouth> almoxarife, or excuse me sorry I did but it was an older version. My graphics chipset is the VIA KM400.
[03:20] <urlin2u> ubuntu_lappy, erfectly sized is not relevant except that you have a limited space and making 3 partitions at once coulkd theoretically a problem. What I wanted with gparted was just a screenshot of gparted not all the other stuff.
[03:21] <urlin2u> ubuntu_lappy, sorry for the spelling, just post a screenshot of gparted without the processes, and the error.
[03:22] <ke_> edbian :  there's nothing to click... it shows the apps, but nothing comes up to click on..... are the apps already loaded?
[03:22]  * ikpL is away
[03:22] <idahodude> Hello everyone
[03:22] <edbian> ke_, ummm, see that bar on the left with the firefox icon?  click the firefox icon
[03:22] <ubuntu_lappy> urlin2u, no apologies necessary I understood you just fine.  Here's the screenshot: http://imagebin.org/190132
[03:23] <ke_> edbian : you run the apps thru firefox?
[03:23] <almoxarife> vouth: there is some terminal command to verify opengl is running, not sure what it is, I would look at it
[03:23] <edbian> ke_, firefox is an app
[03:23] <edbian> ke_, I want to see you run it
[03:23] <idahodude> Has anyone had any issues using eggdrop with ubuntu 11.10? It core dumps everytime i start it
[03:23] <DrPenguin> idahodude: have you looked at any of the core dumps to figure out the issue?
[03:23] <vouth> almoxarife: glxgears, by any chance? I remember having to run that a while back when something similar happened under Lubuntu.
[03:23] <vouth> almoxarife: The gears are working fine.
[03:24] <idahodude> I dont really know how to even begin to look at them. I can pastebin the wall of text it posts when it dumps if it would help
[03:24] <almoxarife> vouth: glxinfo | grep -i direct
[03:24] <DrPenguin> idahodude: sure why not, I can read core dumps
[03:24] <vouth> almoxarife: direct rendering: YES
[03:24] <vouth> or sorry 'Yes' wasn't capitalised.
[03:24] <idahodude> DrPenguin, http://paste.ubuntu.com/780631/
[03:24] <ke_> edbian : i'm on windows at the moment....firefox ran ok, the spreadsheet and other office type products run ok,  its the other apps like games
[03:25] <edbian> ke_, name a specific app
[03:25] <ke_> edbian : games/sudoku
[03:25] <DrPenguin> idahodude: thats not a core dump, thats a stack trace and memory trace of the environment at the time of the crash, but its still usable
[03:25] <almoxarife> vouth: change the cairo-dock back to -c
[03:25] <vouth> almoxarife: ok
[03:26] <almoxarife> vouth: logout and back in
[03:26] <edbian> ke_, I'm not sure why it won't run.  Is this an old machine?  Perhaps it's just taking a very long time
[03:26] <urlin2u> ubuntu_lappy, so the screen shot is not accurate for me to read you have two operations pending, hit the yellw arrow key to cancell them and take another picture.
[03:26] <DrPenguin> idahodude: try from a console: export MALLOC_CHECK=4
[03:26] <edbian> ke_, It should be running
[03:27] <vouth> almoxarife: done
[03:27] <almoxarife> vouth: logout and back in
[03:27] <idahodude> DrPenguin, Same
[03:27] <ke_> edbian : i'm thinking i have to install ubuntu rather than just run the trial from the flash drive?
[03:27] <edbian> ke_, That will probably fix everything
[03:27] <edbian> :P
[03:27] <DrPenguin> idahodude: ifcourse it isnt that simple.. blah
[03:27] <vouth> almoxarife: oh, sorry I missed that. I restarted cairo-dock though and it still didn't work. I'll reboot then.
[03:27] <idahodude> And it does it with both the compiled and apt-get version
[03:27] <vouth> almoxarife: brb
[03:27] <idahodude> Of course not.. Thats always how it goes
[03:28] <ubuntu_lappy> urlin2u, here it is: http://imagebin.org/190133
[03:28] <ke_> edbian : i'm just a little leary of installing it just yet -- don't know what i'm doing for sure -- i'm wanting to put it on a new computer setup with a clean hard drive
[03:28] <edbian> ke_, ok, wait and do that then :)
[03:29] <urlin2u> ubuntu_lappy,  bro use the windows partitioner to shrink it, your trying to go below where it would allow you might have problems.
[03:29] <ke_> edbian : that's why i'm running it from flash drive as trial
[03:29] <edbian> ke_, My advice: backup your data. Go crazy trying stuff.  Break it completely!  Who cares :)
[03:29] <vouth> almoxarife: done, and back.
[03:29] <DrPenguin> idahodude: this seems to be an ongoing problem with eggdrop, ive seen the same stack trace from 1.6.20
[03:29] <ke_> edbian : lol  yeah....thanks for the info
[03:29] <edbian> ke_, sure
[03:29] <vouth> almoxarife: still black box though
[03:30] <almoxarife> vouth: pastebin your xorg.log
[03:30] <ubuntu_lappy> urlin2u, Ok.  Thanks for your patience man.
[03:30] <idahodude> Bah. Maybe an older version then?
[03:30] <urlin2u> ubuntu_lappy, if you run the windows a second resizing it will probably go farther 1/2 is where it defaults to the data amount and HD size.
[03:30] <ke_> edbian : looks like there's alot of apps available in ubuntu/programs
[03:30] <DrPenguin> idahodude: worth a shot
[03:31] <vouth> almoxarife: is that /var/log/Xorg.0.log?
[03:31] <edbian> ke_, there is a tonne and they're free and open source
[03:31] <idahodude> Yeah. I did get it to work once... and it would just start and not connect anywhere. Not even by telnet. I guess ill have to try and find an older version.
[03:31] <idahodude> Thanks DrPenguin!
[03:32] <almoxarife> vouth: that's it
[03:33] <ubuntu_lappy> urlin2u, Just make sure I understand correctly.  so I should resize the windows partition in windows, and then use gparted to set up the extended partition?
[03:34] <urlin2u> ubuntu_lappy, yeah, then just run the extended, then the ext4 then the swap separately
[03:34] <ubuntu_lappy> Cool.  I'll give it a shot.
[03:35] <vouth> almoxarife: http://pastebin.com/qsYiZvth
[03:35] <diamonds> how do I restart sound
[03:35] <diamonds> my sound stopped working
[03:35] <diamonds> I tried service pulseaudio restart
[03:36] <ke_> edbian : i think i might install on a new partition on my laptop so i can boot either ubuntu or windows  ....too much info at risk of loss on this computer
[03:36] <edbian> diamonds, sudo service alsa stop  & then start
[03:37] <edbian> ke_, That's what most people do, It's called 'dual boot' the ubuntu GUI allows you to do that easily
[03:37] <luis_> Does anyone know about a new ralink driver for an hp g4 running ubuntu 32-bit? much appreciated in advance
[03:38] <diamonds> edbian: I have alsa-restore and alsa-store but no alsa
[03:38] <Ryllez89> edbian, what's the best way to learn how to use ubuntu? i never had used linux before.
[03:38] <edbian> Ryllez89, I think the best way is to mess with it and read tutorial online
[03:39] <SunTsu> Ryllez89: use it ajnd consult documentation every time you run against a wall
[03:39] <edbian> Ryllez89, I good first step is to work on themeing
[03:39] <SunTsu> -j
[03:39] <multipass|2> anyone know if you can get the pidgin icon to show on the top right tray in 11.10? I have it set to always show, but dosnt work.
[03:39] <edbian> diamonds, mm, me too, I have no idea
[03:39] <diamonds> wtf.... I keep getting "unknown instance"
[03:39] <ant0neo> I want to update mumble 1.2.2-1ubuntu1.1 to 1.2.3-87 I have input is there an easy route to enable that or any suggestions?
[03:39] <diamonds> what caused this? switching users?
[03:40] <ke_> edbian : thanks again for the help.....have a good one :-)
[03:40] <ant0neo> I  want to update mumble 1.2.2-1ubuntu1.1 to 1.2.3-87 is there an easy route to enable that or any suggestions
[03:40] <xangua> multipass|2: use another desktop that uses notification bar
[03:40] <edbian> ke_, you too ! :)
[03:41] <multipass|2> xangua: yeah.. :[
[03:41] <Ryllez89> edbian, it's important learn the terminal commands ? or now have anything on the GUI?
[03:41] <edbian> Ryllez89, learn the terminal :)
[03:42] <edbian> Ryllez89, It's the best!  Do you have linux / ubuntu installed?
[03:42] <Ryllez89> edbian, yes, i on ubuntu 11.10 now
[03:42] <Ryllez89> but i use it like a windows user hehe
[03:42] <edbian> Ryllez89, Do you have conky installed?
[03:42] <SunTsu> Ryllez89: learning the terminal teaches ypu the basics
[03:42] <SunTsu> you even
[03:43] <SunTsu> Sorry, way too much beer to hit the right keys
[03:43] <Ryllez89> edbian, i dont know what is conky
[03:43] <edbian> Ryllez89, google conky, find a tutorial, install it, configure it
[03:43] <diamonds> well, sound randomly stopped working again, better restart
[03:43] <edbian> Ryllez89, After you've done that you'll have learned something about linux
[03:43]  * diamonds is getting nostalgic
[03:43] <diamonds> it's like I'm using windows 95 again! :D
[03:44] <diamonds> soundblaster... those were the days
[03:44] <Tech-1> yuk
[03:45] <luis_> anyone there?
[03:45] <SunTsu> no
[03:45] <edbian> Will ubuntu 11.10 include firefox 9.0 ?
[03:45] <edbian> luis_, OMG yes
[03:46] <SunTsu> edbian: i hope so, because it's a security fix
[03:46] <luis_> thanks ebdian...any ideas my man?
[03:46] <edbian> luis_, What's the issue you're having again?
[03:46] <SunTsu> luis_: on what?
[03:46] <edbian> SunTsu, I've been updating and haven't gotten it yet.  It's been out all day
[03:46] <nac4l> why not just add aurora repo?
 Does anyone know about a new ralink driver for an hp g4 running ubuntu 32-bit? much appreciated in advance
[03:46] <SunTsu> edbian: because it
[03:46] <luis_> that was the post
[03:46] <luis_> thanks bro
[03:47] <edbian> SunTsu, because it...
[03:47] <SunTsu> edbian: because it's a major release, that takes testing
[03:47] <edbian> luis_, I do not know anything about that driver
[03:47] <edbian> mmm
[03:47] <almoxarife> vouth: I am as lost as I was at the start, I have no ideas
[03:47]  * edbian misses his arch machine
[03:47] <multipass> is there a gnome3 ubuntu project?
[03:47] <SunTsu> edbian: sorry, 5l bear don't make your coordination better ;)
[03:47] <SunTsu> beer even
[03:47] <luis_> ok thanks guys i appreciate it...that is what i thought...was just curious is something had come out already...
[03:47] <vouth> almoxarife: wut? sorry. Ok, is there another channel where I should ask??
[03:47] <edbian> SunTsu, 5l ?
[03:48] <vouth> almoxarife: Thanks for all the help :-)
[03:48] <SunTsu> edbian: more or less, yes
[03:48] <edbian> What is 5l ?
[03:48] <SunTsu> litre
[03:48] <edbian> SunTsu, haha
[03:48] <luis_> thanks again for responding :-)
[03:48] <ant0neo> does anyone know the mumble platform?
[03:48] <edbian> Suddenly it all makes sense
[03:48] <edbian> luis_, yeah, good luck man!
[03:48] <almoxarife> vouth: the channel that most closely matches your distro
[03:48] <luis_> Thanks Edbian!
[03:48] <SunTsu> ant0neo: at least I run two murmur servers. what's your question?
[03:49] <vouth> almoxarife: is there a channel for 10.10 specifically?
[03:49] <ant0neo> I need to update to the new recording version and wondered is there a simple way to do that
[03:49] <vouth> almoxarife: I know it's old but technically it's supported for another 4 months or something :-D
[03:49] <almoxarife> vouth: no idea, this one
[03:50] <urlin2u> multipass, gnome 3 and ubuntu are seperate entities, yes it is modified by canonical for their platforms.
[03:50] <vouth> almoxarife: ok, thanks :-) Just repost here then maybe?
[03:50] <multipass> urlin2u: kubuntu, xubuntu...
[03:50] <ant0neo> SunTsu I need to update to the new recording version and wondered is there a simple way to do that
[03:50] <diamonds> OK restart did it. so...
[03:50]  * diamonds shrugs
[03:50] <diamonds> better than nothing!
[03:51] <SunTsu> ant0neo: does the murmur distribution include recording? If not, what does?
[03:52] <manuel_> is office 2010 supported in wine?
[03:52] <DrPenguin> manuel_: check winehq
[03:53] <manuel_> thanks
[03:53] <manuel_> also, what is a good opensource pdf read/writer?
[03:53] <manuel_> editor
[03:53] <DrPenguin> evince
[03:53] <DrPenguin> for reading
[03:53] <DrPenguin> dunno about writing
[03:53] <manuel_> it has tabs?
[03:54] <DrPenguin> manuel_: I dont think so
[03:54] <manuel_> oh yah it came default in mint 12
[03:54] <manuel_> it sucks
[03:58] <ant0neo> SunTsu forgive me I am a reformed Luddite converted to Ubuntu and therefore am technically illiterate as such though manage with the wonderful support the community gives so I dont even know what "murmur" means I was at this link http://blog.mumble.info/mumble-1-2-3-released/ that lead me to this link https://launchpad.net/~slicer/+archive/ppa I enabled ppa update via terminal though get error messages when attemptin
[03:58] <ant0neo> g to input mumble (1.2.3-87-gf7d8711-1~ppa1~maverick1) maverick; urgency=lowwhich I guessed would update the programme?
[04:00] <thechris> after installing ubuntu, i restart my computer and get a black screen
[04:00] <thechris> Is there any way to get a login
[04:00] <aBound> Question: Does anybody know how I can edit the graphical boot/shutdown splash from Ubuntu and change it's resolution without using StartUpManager?
[04:00] <ant0neo> SunTsu the version I have uploaded is  mumble 1.2.2-1ubuntu1.1
[04:01] <xangua> ant0neo: like you can see on the ppa page, on the right, the packages failed to buld
[04:01] <linuxjack> thechris,try ctrl+alt+F1
[04:01] <xangua> build*
[04:01] <thechris> linuxjack: still black
[04:02] <linuxjack> any error message?
[04:02] <daveciac> What's the prob?
[04:03] <linuxjack> or what have you done,thechris
[04:03] <urlin2u> !nomodeset | thechris
[04:04] <ant0neo> even the package that did build outputs bash: syntax error near unexpected token `1.1.8-1~ppa2~intrepid1'
[04:04] <ant0neo>  though as it is suffixed with intrepid1 I guess it aint for 10.04 LTS?
[04:04] <ant0neo> xangua: ^
[04:04] <DrPenguin> ithat isnt the LTS, lucid is LTS
[04:04] <DrPenguin> I think intrepid was 9.10?
[04:05] <thechris> linuxjack: basically, this is the second system with issues.  I'm really assuming the issue is acpi related.  But this is a different issue.  I've basically only tried switching vt's
[04:05] <DrPenguin> wait.. no
[04:05] <DrPenguin> 8.04?
[04:05] <DrPenguin> I cant do math
[04:05] <ant0neo> so I need to find apackage for lucid ?
[04:05] <thechris> also, does anyone know how to get acpi support to work on p67/z68 based mobos?
[04:05] <thechris> i'm 0/2 thus far
[04:05] <milamber> !8.04
[04:06] <linuxjack> l think if it is your grub's problem,thechris
[04:07] <aBound> Question: Does anybody know how to edit the graphical Ubuntu boot/shutdown splash without using startupmanager. So I can change the resolution size.
[04:09] <mrdeb> hi
[04:09] <mrdeb> happy holidays
[04:09] <DrPenguin> you too mrdeb!
[04:09] <ant0neo> is this a terminal command anyone? https://launchpad.net/~slicer/+archive/ppa
[04:09] <mrdeb> thank you drp
[04:10] <xangua> ant0neo: like i have told you, the packages from that ppa are broken/didn't build
[04:11] <ant0neo> forgive just realised it was a link back to those packages apologies
[04:11] <urlin2u> ant0neo, it is a ppa.
[04:13] <ant0neo> so the easy route is start over and download the newer vbersion of mumble thanks
[04:15] <thechris> hmm, no modeset seemed to help.  now to see if restart works
[04:15] <thechris> ok, there it goes.  it just takes a while longer to boot than I had hoped.
[04:16] <VisualAssassin> ok i completely forgot what version of ubuntu im running, how do i check in the terminal?
[04:16] <Tech-1> uname -a
[04:16] <thechris> hopefully "shutdown" works as well.
[04:16] <VisualAssassin> reason being, i havent been on this machine in a long time
[04:16] <Tech-1> plenty of updates prolly then
[04:17] <xangua> VisualAssassin: lsb_release -a
[04:17] <velociostrich> somebody say my name plox; I'm testing something
[04:18] <VisualAssassin> xangua.....type that in the terminal?
[04:18] <rile> plox
[04:18] <velociostrich> lol
[04:18] <Oer> plox
[04:18] <velociostrich> Pretty please, if you will
[04:18] <velociostrich> say "velociostrich"
[04:18] <velociostrich> I'm testing a script
[04:18] <mebigfatguy1> velociostrich:
[04:18] <velociostrich> dangit
[04:18] <velociostrich> doesn't work
[04:18] <velociostrich> try once more
[04:18] <pangolin> !test
[04:18] <mebigfatguy1> velociostrich:
[04:19] <velociostrich> Aha!
[04:19] <velociostrich> thank you
[04:19] <velociostrich> I wrote a script to make notify-send send the message to me when xchat-gnome tries to grab focus, and change fvwm so that it invokes said script instead of allowing xchat-gnome to grab focus
[04:19] <manuel_> what is a good virtual drive software?
[04:22] <emery> anybody here know much anything about the oem-install tool?
[04:24] <aeon-ltd> emery: what would you like to know?
[04:24] <emery> aeon-ltd: how it is used
[04:27] <emery> aeon-ltd: I can't find any documentation
[04:29] <usr13> manuel_: What do you mean "virtual drive"?
[04:29] <manuel_> mounting isos
[04:30] <mpx> Not physically existing as such but made by software to appear to do so: "virtual images"
[04:30] <usr13> manuel_: Oh, well, just use the loop switch
[04:31] <manuel_> k thanks
[04:31] <usr13>  mount -t iso9660 -o loop,ro /home/somebody/foobar.iso /mnt/cdrom
[04:31] <thechris> hmm, the nvidia drivers don't show up in "additional drivers"
[04:31] <emery> mansson:  cdemu - http://cdemu.org
[04:31] <emery> or manuel_ rather
[04:31] <nac4l> finally got my mysql working in lucid, had to add mysql user to sudoers file.
[04:32] <emery> manuel_: if you want to do stuff like emulate ejecting and reading TOCs
[04:32] <usr13> manuel_: Thats' how you'd do it from the command line...
[04:32] <manuel_> thanks
[04:32] <thechris> is it safe to install the nvidia drivers from apt-get instead of the gui program?
[04:33] <slakcphil> hey guys, question, put a line in .profile that requires gui to run. since my desktop does not automaticall load X(i like it this way and use startx when needed) how can i get .profile to wait till X session is active(after i type startx) i was thinking i could put the startx command in .profile and then the command i want to run after?
[04:33] <meskarune> thechris: yes, as long as you know what driver you need
[04:33] <usr13> emery: What do you mean "oem-install tool"?
[04:34] <emery> usr13: oem-config
[04:34] <usr13> emery: Ok, well, I'm still lost.  Maybe someone else will know what you're talking about.
[04:34] <VisualAssassin> whats the easiest way to upgrade to the newest version of ubuntu in the terminal?
[04:35] <usr13> !upgrade | VisualAssassin
[04:36] <meskarune> VisualAssassin: put "man apt" in the terminal without quotes. :)
[04:36] <usr13> VisualAssassin: sudo do-release-upgrade
[04:36] <Oer> the newest can't be upgraded.
[04:37] <dpierce> i upgraded to oneiric and there seems to be remnants of a borked gtk2 theme hanging around. anyway to clear that up? this is how it looks now, and its god awful http://image.bayimg.com/aallfaadi.jpg
[04:37] <dpierce> same problem in gnome shell and unity both
[04:38] <usr13> dpierce: Looks like you just need to change theme
[04:38] <Oer> dpierce change to a gtk3 theme then ?
[04:38] <dpierce> i tried that. and the weird color scheme still hangs around
[04:38] <dpierce> only time it doesnt is with the high and low contrast themes
[04:39] <thechris> !nvidia
[04:39] <dpierce> matrox? theyre still around?
[04:39] <VisualAssassin> so i cant upgrade from from 10.04 to the newest version?
[04:40] <Qation> Does anyone know if there is a way to get f.lux working on dual monitors? I have two and it only affects one.
[04:40] <xangua> VisualAssassin: you can upgrade from 10.04 to 10.10 and then from 10.10 to 11.04 and finally from 11.04 to 11.10
[04:40] <meskarune> dpierce: have you tried removing your old themes?
[04:41] <VisualAssassin> that seems kind of redundant doesnt it? why do i have to do it that way?
[04:41] <meskarune> also make sure you have all the theme engines and official themes installed
[04:41] <thechris> dpierce: apparently, just not in the consumer market as much
[04:41] <dpierce> meskarune: i rm'd all kinds of things related to the UI. still hanging around though
[04:42] <meskarune> dpierce: can you open nautilus in the terminal and see if there is an error message about the theme?
[04:42] <smoke`em> hi
[04:42] <smoke`em> i need a program to rip music from online radios pls(with full tutorial on how to set it up)
[04:43] <dpierce> meskarune: no errors.
[04:43] <dpierce> aside from the color any way... ;p
[04:44] <blackbandit1258> Can someone help me with a problem i have?
[04:45] <vouth> !ask | blackbandit1258
[04:45] <dpierce> smoke`em:  you can use ffmpeg, mplayer or vlc for that
[04:45] <smoke`em> ok cheers
[04:45] <Oer> dpierce reset the monitor to fabric default sometimes help with strange colours
[04:45] <dpierce> Oer: fabric what? :)
[04:46] <kerryb> can someone help?  ubuntu software center....  how do i run one of these...for example  games/FreeCell Solitaire....it has a green check beside it like it's loaded, but when i click on it, the only choices i get are "more info" or "remove"
[04:46] <usr13> dpierce: or streamripper
[04:46] <longcat> is there a way to bypass the disk 4.5gb disk space requirement or make ubuntu ues less space?
[04:47] <Oer> or factory default
[04:47] <longcat> i have 4.2
[04:47] <dpierce> longcat:  you can grab the alternate net-installer and cherry pick the size down that way
[04:47] <longcat> ubuntu wont install in 4.2? so close to 4.5..  just wish i could disable htat
[04:47] <xangua> kerryb: open the dash and type the app name
[04:47] <blackbandit1258> I have a problem here. Whenever I put a blank DVD in my DVD drive the drive locks up and wont respond. This only happens with blank DVDs not CDs.
[04:48] <dpierce> Oer: its not a problem with the monitor/card/or driver. def somethign hanging around from days of olde
[04:48] <usr13> blackbandit1258: The system completely locks up?
[04:49] <vouth> blackbandit1258: does the drive support writing to dvds? that's the first thing I'd check
[04:49] <Tech-1> are they rw's ?
[04:49] <dpierce> !tell longcat  about alternate
[04:49] <usr13> vouth: Even then, shouldn't happen....
[04:49] <vouth> usr13: eh, it was just a thought :-D
[04:50] <usr13> vouth: Yea, I know but....
[04:50] <longcat> alright...  ill go use the alternative.. thanks
[04:50] <dpierce> longcat:  or minimal
[04:50] <usr13> blackbandit1258: Can you ssh in from another pc?
 ahhh, that works.... i wasn't understanding how to run things... i guess the ubuntu software center is just a management tool, not an execution tool
[04:52] <dpierce> kerryb: click the big ubuntu logo at the top of the panel
[04:53] <usr13> blackbandit1258: You might run  tail -f /var/log/messages    and see what it says as it locks up.  Might give you a clue.
[04:55] <kerryb> dpierce yes, that worked. ..   now, to get a new app from universe soruce,   do i click on   'use that source'   to download that app?
[04:58] <DarkXP> hey!
[04:58] <dpierce> kerryb: just add universe in the sources list.
[05:00] <dpierce> you should just be able to install software normally after it updates
[05:01] <blackbandit1258> I have a problem here. Whenever I put a blank DVD in my DVD drive the drive locks up and wont respond. This only happens with blank DVDs not CDs.
[05:01] <DarkXP> what is gnome3?
[05:02] <bazhang> !gnome3 | DarkXP
[05:02] <kerryb> dpierce   i'm on dialup, real slow :-(
[05:02] <DarkXP> ubottu: thanks..
[05:02] <nac4l> I'm trying to setup my computer as static NAT on a netgear wnr1000v2, which comcast just gave us, and I'm having trouble finding any options on doing so.  I really hope I can still host my webpage n' crap with this comcast service.  Really wish I still had Verizon FIOS
[05:03] <dpierce> kerryb: might want to use something like 'aptitude
[05:03] <nac4l> anyone here use comcast and apache?
[05:03] <blackbandit1258> I have a problem here. Whenever I put a blank DVD in my DVD drive the drive locks up and wont respond. This only happens with blank DVDs not CDs.
[05:04] <spanther> I've installed the newest ubuntu 11.10 on my notebook but after installing the proprietary amd drivers for my 6850m graphics chip, i see a little icon on the lower right saying "AMD Unsupported hardware" :(
[05:04] <bazhang> blackbandit1258, yes, no need to repeat so quickly
[05:04] <dpierce> itll give ya ETA and download speed stats. makes waiting for big packages (or small ones over a slow connection) slightly more bearable
[05:04] <kerryb> dpierce big learning curve here
[05:06] <kerryb> dpierce i take it aptitude is a firefox add on that i can find in the software center?
[05:07] <bazhang> !aptitude | kerryb
[05:07] <longcat> know off hand if i can install ubuntu to a loop device with the alternate installer?
[05:07] <bazhang> longcat, with what goal, please clarify
[05:07] <_cb> Can't play multiuser games on yahoo. May be  OpenJDK. Anyone have any experience with this?
[05:09] <dpierce> kerryb: being on dial up, you shouldnt shy away from the terminal. wget'
[05:09] <dpierce> will be your best friend
[05:11] <longcat> ultimately, im experimenting with linux installation on a dvd-ram
[05:11] <longcat> unfortunately linux doesnt enumerate partitions on /dev/sr*
[05:11] <gizmo> longcat: try running "losetup /dev/loop0 /path/to/loop/device", then you should be able to install to loop0 like it was a normal device.
[05:12] <dpierce> _cb: this might be seen as blasphemy but, have you tried the proprietary java and checked if that works?
[05:12] <longcat> but im still messing about installing using loop device and trying to see if disabling scsi emulation helps
[05:12] <_cb> dpierce been thinking about it and hoping someone had found another solutiion
[05:18] <dpierce> _cb: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=452435#c15
[05:19] <giggs> guys?
[05:19] <blackbandit1258> I have a problem here. Whenever I put a blank DVD in my DVD drive the drive locks up and wont respond. This only happens with blank DVDs not CDs.
[05:19] <giggs> i want to start contributing to ubuntu, like bugfixes and stuff. how do i start? pls help
[05:20] <Juaad>  Tu web gratis con diseños exclusivos, solo hasta el día 31. Felices fiestas.  www.SITIOPERSONAL.es 
[05:20] <giggs> anyone?
[05:21] <Stanley00> giggs: did you try this page? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ContributeToUbuntu
[05:21] <vouth> Hi. This is really weird… Fails with compiz: http://image.bayimg.com/balldaadi.jpg Fails without compiz: http://image.bayimg.com/ballhaadi.jpg WTH??
[05:21] <dpierce> giggs:  http://www.ubuntu.com/community/get-involved
[05:21] <dpierce> giggs: TL;DR version is: Contribute upstream in Debian.
[05:22] <giggs> dpierce: how? i know the basic c/c++
[05:23] <dpierce> giggs: squash bugs. submit patches. get a mentor or sponsor. become a maintainer. ????. PROFIT!!
[05:25] <giggs> dpierce: i tried out searching for bite-size bugs in ubuntu
[05:25] <_cb> dpierce intersting thread. Thread blames Yahoo's applet but it does work on windoze. May have to install Sun Java and see what happens
[05:25] <giggs> dpierce: but dunno what to do
[05:26] <dpierce> _cb: i doubt most windows users are running the openjdk. so the devs probably just coded to the proprietary extensions.
[05:27] <dpierce> if they'd have used openjdk then it would run for proprietary and libre
[05:28] <Saik> hey guys.
[05:29] <Saik> oops..
[05:30] <Saik> I have a problem with the touchpad on an eee pc netbook, the touchpad keeps randomly disabling itself on oneirc, anyone know what might cause this, and how to fix it?
[05:32] <Black> Hello
[05:32] <DarkXPheno> hi!
[05:33] <Black> Hi darkxphone
[05:36] <r4y> I am wondering if someone can install a windows graphics card driver for windows in Ubuntu
[05:36] <blackbandit1258> I have a problem here. Whenever I put a blank DVD in my DVD drive the drive locks up and wont respond. This only happens with blank DVDs not CDs.
[05:36] <meskarune> saik: do you have a hot key on your keyboard that disables the touchpad?
[05:36] <r4y> http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/Pages/legacy-xp.aspx
[05:37] <Tech-1> Saik:   i have one of those, use this :  http://www.jupiterapplet.org/
[05:37] <meskarune> r4y: you can't use a windows driver in linux. Luckily there are lots of graphic drivers for Linux.
[05:38] <r4y> faz wanted help getting a higher res
[05:38] <r4y> He said: i want my resolution uptoo 1240x1024 but 800x700 is available?????
[05:38] <Saik> @meskarune: no, there is not hotkey for it
[05:38] <r4y> I read that 1024x768 is possible
[05:39] <Paijo> You can use ndis wrapper
[05:39] <Tech-1> Saik:  the link i posted has a switch
[05:39] <JCDenton> You should look for a Linux alternative driver first
[05:39] <ZekeS> ... Paijo: ndiswrapper is for wifi cards.
[05:39] <r4y> for his graphics card use ndiswrapper?
[05:39] <JCDenton> Linux compatible that is
[05:39] <r4y> O
[05:39] <r4y> sorry
[05:39] <r4y> Right
[05:39] <Saik> @tech-1: thx
[05:40] <Tech-1> Saik:  that works very nicely
[05:40] <Saik> hopefully
[05:40] <Paijo> Yeah,sory,im just join here
[05:40] <Tech-1> its also good for many laptops
[05:40] <r4y> I need help looking for the proper driver for his graphics card?, Or what?
[05:40] <ZekeS> r4y: ... it shouldn't be hard at all
[05:41] <ZekeS> but why don't you get HIM in this channel so we can ask directly ;P
[05:41] <Paijo> R4y,exactly what your graphics card?
[05:41] <r4y> Well, he left
[05:41] <r4y> I thought he was around
[05:42] <blackbandit1258> I have a problem here. Whenever I put a blank DVD in my DVD drive the drive locks up and wont respond. This only happens with blank DVDs not CDs. Plz help!
[05:42] <CarlFK> Paijo: r4y dosn't have trouble with *his* card :)
[05:42] <r4y> rage 128 pro ati
[05:42] <Saik> how do I add the ppa to the sources?
[05:42] <shiloh> rofl
[05:42] <CarlFK> Saik: apt-add-reporsitory
[05:42] <Tech-1> Saik:  use the .deb package
[05:47] <meskarune> r4y: http://www.justlinux.com/nhf/Hardware/Getting_Your_ATI_Rage_128_Card_Working.html
[05:49] <meskarune> I'm not sure how old that site is, or if its ubuntu relevant though.
[05:50] <r4y> right
[05:50] <Paijo> I have no ati installed
[05:51] <volkman> hello room
[05:52] <Paijo> Hello volkman
[05:53] <volkman> i'm attempting to repair a possibly hacked server
[05:53] <volkman> would you be able to help me with that?
[05:53] <DarkXPheno> volkman: possibly hacked
[05:53] <DarkXPheno> ?
[05:54] <volkman> i noticed the server was getting slow
[05:54] <volkman> took a look at apache log files
[05:54] <volkman> and there's several requests for random files
[05:54] <DarkXPheno> whats in the logs?
[05:54] <volkman> from other servers
[05:54] <volkman> such as
[05:54] <Paijo> Volkman,i think you need real certainty for hacked server
[05:55] <volkman> :80 41-218-209-234-adsl-dyn.4u.com.gh - - [22/Dec/2011:14:01:00 -0500] "GET http://cdn.pictimgs.com/static/photo/thumbnail/Rg-BBAERpi5NAQAAAA==.jpg HTTP/1.1" 200 2027 "http://www.girlsdateforfree.com/find.php" "Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:6.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/6.0"
[05:55] <JimMO> hello chan..
[05:55] <almoxarife> volkman: I would love to help, please provide me with the ip and authorize me to sniff every port on it
[05:55] <DarkXPheno> requests from other servers doesnt imply your server is hacked
[05:55] <dpierce> r4y: might want to try doing 'modprobe r128'
[05:55] <volkman> well
[05:55] <volkman> the only way i can keep the server up is if i only allow my ip through to port 80, or disable apache
[05:56] <volkman> otherwise the memory gets pegged and i have to reboot it manually through linode's admin interface
[05:56] <r4y> note made
[05:56] <dpierce> r4y:  not sure if youll have to set the agpart or ramdac like the old days with a card like that. maybe, shouldnt, have to.. possibly
[05:58] <JCDenton> almoxarife, ...
[05:59] <almoxarife> JCDenton: ???
[06:01] <JimMO> running ubuntu 11.1  .... would like to step back to jauntyJackalope  comments?
[06:02] <pp7> how comes when I want to compress something from nautilus or marlin nothing happens?
[06:04] <JimMO> hi mah454
[06:05] <mah454> JimMO, Hi ...
[06:06] <JimMO> mah454:   what ver u run?
[06:07] <EvilResistance> !jaunty | JimMO
[06:07] <EvilResistance> JimMO:  Jaunty's far past end of life, i dont recommend it.  if you want to step back to something, step back to 10.04
[06:07] <Nano> Happy holidays everyone.
[06:07] <EvilResistance> JimMO:  or 11.04
[06:08] <st_prg> Hi guys, I am trying to compile PHP on 10.11 and it can not find apxs - I have done some extensive searching and can not find a hint as to where the location of it may be.
[06:08] <EvilResistance> st_prg:  there is no such thing as 10.11
[06:09]  * stevecam makes 10.11
[06:09] <EvilResistance> st_prg:  do you mean 11.10?
[06:09] <EvilResistance> or 10.10?
[06:09] <Stepnjump> Guys, I'm looking for an app that is similar to Microsoft access (database). I need wizards and the like because I'm not a SQL kind of guy
[06:10] <EvilResistance> Stepnjump:  LibreOffice Base maybe?
[06:10] <JimMO> thanx, all..  reason is, I preferred desktop for JJacl-9.04..could I have that desktop with v11.1?
[06:10] <Stepnjump> Thanks EvilResistance.. I will try it. Is it the only one?
[06:11] <EvilResistance> Stepnjump:  try libreoffice-base:  sudo apt-get install libreoffice-base
[06:11] <pp7> is there a way to get animated progressbars in gtk-3?
[06:11] <st_prg> EvilResistance: Sorry yes 11.10...
[06:11] <JimMO> EvilResist:  uncertain...
[06:11] <EvilResistance> Stepnjump:  only one where you can create the databases locally
[06:11] <Stepnjump> ok cool. Thanks a lot
[06:11] <EvilResistance> st_prg:  which PHP are you compiling?  you should be able to use what's already in the repos
[06:11] <st_prg> Hang on now Im just confused...
[06:11] <EvilResistance> st_prg:  php5 exists in the repos
[06:11] <st_prg> 10.10
[06:11] <st_prg> I just checked. Its 10.10. Sorry.
[06:11] <jeki> Îî áëèàòü êóäà ÿ ïîïàë?
[06:11] <EvilResistance> st_prg:  ah... yeah you might run into issues compiling the newer versions of PHP for 10.10
[06:12] <st_prg> I have downloaded the source off PHP because the one in my repo is 5.3.3 and 5.3.8 is the latest.
[06:12] <jeki> ÷å òóò âñå èíîñòðàíöû?
[06:12] <EvilResistance> st_prg:  well do you absolutely need 5.3.8?
[06:12] <st_prg> Great... I just need to know where apxs is as far as I am aware. Im not too keen on Unity
[06:12] <EvilResistance> st_prg:  i assume upgrading to natty or oneiric is out of the question?
[06:12] <st_prg> Yes I need it/
[06:12] <EvilResistance> st_prg:  do you absolutely need ***CUTTING EDGE*** PHP
[06:12] <st_prg> I have already tried them then after a few days I couldnt put up with it any more. EvilResistance, yes.
[06:13] <EvilResistance> or will a slightly newer version of PHP work fine, rather than 5.3.3?
[06:13] <M4d3L> Hi, someone is hacking my server and the process only show php5-cgi. is there a way to know what is the damn file that give access to the hacker?
[06:13] <st_prg> its not a matter of 'Its the latest I need it', its a matter of 'That is the only version that will work how I need it'.
[06:13] <EvilResistance> st_prg:  then you're kind of SOL
[06:13] <EvilResistance> st_prg:  the file you need to build php doesnt exist on maverick (10.10)
[06:13] <st_prg> SOL?
[06:13] <st_prg> Great D:
[06:14] <EvilResistance> st_prg:  "s*** out of luck"
[06:14] <EvilResistance> st_prg:  in a few months maverick is going to be out of date...
[06:14] <EvilResistance> st_prg:  at which point you'll kinda need to upgrade
[06:14] <st_prg> Ok great
[06:14] <EvilResistance> st_prg:  you could upgrade to 11.04 (which is stable)
[06:14] <st_prg> I hate Unity...
[06:14] <EvilResistance> so use gnome shell :P
[06:14]  * EvilResistance personally purged unity from his system by switching to a KDE interface :P
[06:14] <st_prg> I guess I could...
[06:15] <dpierce> st_prg: or emacs. its a hell of a windows manager
[06:15] <st_prg> emacs?
[06:15] <st_prg> Yea Im sure that would be great :P
[06:15] <st_prg> I dont personally like KDE
[06:16] <EvilResistance> st_prg:  there's many windows managers and what not
[06:16] <almoxarife> does emacs have a gui?
[06:16] <EvilResistance> I use KDE... but I still have GNOME installed.  XFCE and LXDE or whatever the others are would work
[06:16] <EvilResistance> st_prg:  if yo udont want to switch to other environments, i'd install gnome-shell and then use that rather than unity
[06:17] <st_prg> EvilResistance. Yea I know about all of those. XFCE and LXDE are ok but I dont think they live up to how I would use them. I dont really like KDE - GNOME has a feel about it I just prefer if you get what I mean :)
[06:17] <meskarune> there's also xfce, fluxbox, xmonad, awesome, lxde, etc
[06:17] <almoxarife> EvilResistance: I agree, gnome-shell beats unity
[06:17] <EvilResistance> almoxarife:  i uninstalled unity ;P
[06:17] <EvilResistance> half-broke my system xD
[06:17] <st_prg> Ok thanks EvilResistance. I was hoping I wouldnt have to do that but I guess if that it..
[06:17] <st_prg> How do you mean?
[06:17] <EvilResistance> st_prg:  i uninstalled unity while using unity
[06:17] <EvilResistance> which broke things :p
[06:17] <st_prg> HAHA :D
[06:17] <st_prg> That will do it...
[06:18] <dpierce> almoxarife: it does. i use it all the time. the only thing it lacks is a decent text editor.
[06:18] <st_prg> Its not quite as fun but I have 2 Hard Drives in my computer - the main one and one for putting stuff on and somehow GRUB managed to get on my second HDD - That made things fun :)
[06:19] <st_prg> dpierce: Emacs? I use Geany - I think its great! I changed someones theme slightly and it works like a charm :)
[06:19] <stjohnmedrano> good day, any idea on icedtea6-plugin? i currently running 12.04 but the plugin doesnt seem to work, just a newbie. tnx
[06:20] <M4d3L> anyone could help me?
[06:21] <almoxarife> EvilResistance: I un-installed the only kernel image that was installed once, I thought it took up too much room, I learned that day not to take that one out at a minimum
[06:21] <EvilResistance> :P
[06:21] <st_prg> almoxarife: I was just thinking about that :D
[06:21] <almoxarife> st_prg: don't
[06:22] <st_prg> How did that handle? I mean uninstalling while running? I might do that just before I wipe then install ubuntu 11.10 :D
[06:22] <almoxarife> M4d3L: ask the question
[06:22] <M4d3L> I have ask it already
[06:22] <EvilResistance> M4d3L:  you realize that some users probly didnt see it?
[06:22] <M4d3L> ->someone is hacking my server and the process only show php5-cgi. is there a way to know what is the damn file that give access to the hacker?
 Hi, someone is hacking my server and the process only show php5-cgi. is there a way to know what is the damn file that give access to the hacker?
[06:23] <EvilResistance> M4d3L:  question for you...
[06:23] <EvilResistance> M4d3L:  how do you *know* they're hacking your server:?
[06:23] <M4d3L> the script is alway running after some hour, (same process ID) and when I kill it it come again
[06:23] <st_prg> Im with EvilResistance on this
[06:24] <st_prg> Maybe its a cron job?
[06:24] <EvilResistance> M4d3L:  that's probably a cron job
[06:24] <EvilResistance> or your PHP process for running PHP pages :/
[06:24] <st_prg> EvilResistance: It might have something to do with the illuminati??? :D
[06:24] <EvilResistance> M4d3L:  i highly doubt php5-cgi is being used to hack your server...
[06:24] <M4d3L> ? cron job will not give the same process ID
[06:24] <EvilResistance> M4d3L:  neither will a script or someone starting the process via a script
[06:25] <EvilResistance> M4d3L:  if you're really concerned, uninstall php5-cgi
[06:25] <EvilResistance> note you'll probly break whatever depends on it
[06:25] <EvilResistance> M4d3L:  also, run rkhunter
[06:26] <almoxarife> M4d3L: youmight change every password for every entry point into the server also
[06:26] <M4d3L> EvilResistance: yeah IT is what I want to know. witch script is running. php-cgi dont tell me what file he is running
[06:26] <EvilResistance> M4d3L:  start by killing the process (i.e. uninstall).  run rkhunter
[06:26] <almoxarife> M4d3L: you might port sniff your server for ports you can't account for
[06:26] <EvilResistance> M4d3L:  and also remember that php processes arent necessarily running scripts
[06:26] <M4d3L> I cant stop apache. its a production server
[06:26] <EvilResistance> they may be listening for script activity
[06:27] <M4d3L> I only want to know what php file is running
[06:27] <EvilResistance> M4d3L:  wait... php5-cgi and apache means php5-cgi is the php serving system for apache
[06:27] <EvilResistance> M4d3L:  it doesnt mean the thing is actually running a script
[06:27] <M4d3L> maybe but I start by this option
[06:28] <EvilResistance> M4d3L:  well then you might be SOL... i've recommended running rkhunter three times now
[06:28] <EvilResistance> its a rootkit/threat finder
[06:28] <tonesfrommars> horribly nOOb-ish question in 3 .. 2.. 1
[06:28] <DarkXPheno> go!
[06:29] <tonesfrommars> I'm in maverick, been in ubuntu for about a year now, and I do all me work on this machine.
[06:29] <almoxarife> tonesfrommars: this aint #linux, fell free to be noobish
[06:29] <tonesfrommars> cool, been hesitant to move to Natty since I don't want workflow to grind to a halt.
[06:29] <M4d3L> I just run #rkhunter once installed?
[06:30] <tonesfrommars> Any advice on precautions I might take, or things to watch out for when upgrading?
[06:30] <almoxarife> tonesfrommars: don't
[06:31] <tonesfrommars> I know I'd have to adjust to whatever the new window manager is called, wuite different from what I've seen.
[06:31] <tonesfrommars> But more importantly, I'd rather not go through setting up my LAMP stack all over again.
[06:31] <EvilResistance> M4d3L:  its not #rkhunter, just: sudo rkhunter --update --check --skip-keypress
[06:31] <pp7> is there a way to get animated progressbars in gtk-3?
[06:31] <almoxarife> tonesfrommars: you know the saying, 'if its not broke....' ? the new window is enough to drive someone into fixation
[06:32] <EvilResistance> M4d3L:  that'll update the data in rkhunter's search/find thing, then run default checks on your system without prompting you for hitting 'enter' between test phases
[06:32] <EvilResistance> M4d3L:  any threats will be generally highlighted on the screen, but the log file it produces (it will say what file its in) will contain all the details
[06:32] <tonesfrommars> almoxarife: that's kind of been my approach. Good to hear someone with more experience (I presume) recommend staying put.
[06:32] <almoxarife> pp7: wouldn't that depend on the app?
[06:33] <dpierce> M4d3L: wouldnt hurt to run it from /usr/bin/rkhunter in case you have ./ in your path
[06:33] <pp7> almoxarife: i mean like how would i go about getting animated progressbars?
[06:33] <EvilResistance> M4d3L:  what dpierce said, but i'm not sure rkhunter is in /usr/bin/...
[06:33] <almoxarife> tonesfrommars: I don't know about 'more' experience, you just said the magic words, 'work and works'
[06:33] <EvilResistance> oop i lied its in there
[06:33] <dpierce> 'whereis rkhunter'
[06:33] <almoxarife> tonesfrommars: I don't know about 'more' experience, you just said the magic words, 'work and works'
[06:33] <almoxarife> pp7: wouldn't that depend on the app?
[06:34] <EvilResistance> dpierce:  i know
[06:34] <EvilResistance> dpierce:  that's how i knew i lied :P
[06:34] <pp7> almoxarife: no it wouldn't
[06:34] <st_prg> tonesfrommars: I have to agree with almoxarife. I dislike the whole Unity desktop manager. It is too much of a change from the 'norm'. And compiz wont work on it :(
[06:34] <M4d3L> ok ty. its running actually
[06:35] <almoxarife> pp7: synaptic has a progress bar, it is also gtk3(aint it?) and its animated, like that?
[06:35] <meskarune> I'm not a fan of compiz
[06:35] <st_prg> tonesfrommars: Well compiz wont work well for me anyway... But more on a point of productivity you would be severely disadvantaged as the changes are just too great and sudden. You can install gnome-shell which is what I am going to have to do - I am cutting myself off at the legs now and upgrading because I need the latest version of PHP which is not available on my system but enough about that. So I will be using gnome-shell. Just an ide
[06:35] <st_prg> a to put out there to you  :)
[06:35] <pp7> almoxarife: yes but its not animated for me (in my theme which is elementary)
[06:36] <DarkXPheno> compiz is awesome! works perfectly on my ATI HD4570
[06:36] <M4d3L> in the same time I wait, is there a way to know exactly the .php file php-cgi is running?
[06:37] <tonesfrommars> I'll have to check out compiz.
[06:37] <almoxarife> plasma-shell, its like compiz without the 300meg overhead
[06:37] <tonesfrommars> That's very helpful, thanks people.
[06:38] <almoxarife> plasma-workspace, sorry
[06:38] <M4d3L> krkhunter didnt find anything
[06:39] <DaZ> almoxarife: yeah, because kde is so light weight <:
[06:39] <EvilResistance> M4d3L:  then you probably dont have a virus/script running without knowledge
[06:39] <EvilResistance> M4d3L:  if you really think its a hacker, uninstall php5-cgi
[06:39] <EvilResistance> M4d3L:  but i have a feeling php5-cgi is what's running PHP in apache
[06:39] <EvilResistance> no confirmation, just a feeling
[06:40] <DarkXPheno> EvilResistance: yeah... it is just that...
[06:40] <M4d3L> EvilResistance: I thing its someone exploiting hole in some php file but I need to know what file it is. the process didnt show it to me
[06:40] <EvilResistance> M4d3L:  why do you think they're exploiting a hole in a php file?
[06:41] <EvilResistance> M4d3L:  what in the WORLD could you be running that'd have a gaping security hole in a file you're using on a production server?
[06:41] <EvilResistance> and dont say something produced by microsoft, or i'll laugh :P
[06:41] <M4d3L> EvilResistance: because its Wordpress and this is not security hole free
[06:42] <almoxarife> M4d3L: you could setup a script to run 'lsof -i' every ???? 10 min, see who is talking to what
[06:42] <M4d3L> and the process take ALL my memory
[06:42] <EvilResistance> M4d3L:  ah...  well the issue is php5-cgi won't exactly tell you what its serving
[06:42] <EvilResistance> M4d3L:  and that's common for a misconfigured PHP to take up all your memory
[06:43] <tonesfrommars> PHParanoia :-)
[06:43] <EvilResistance> M4d3L:  also, apache + PHP isnt exactly resource-light
[06:43] <EvilResistance> M4d3L:  it can be pretty resource-heavy
[06:43] <M4d3L> hey. lets me a chance. english is not my main language. I make effort to try to get understand lol
[06:43] <EvilResistance> so i wouldnt jump to assuming you were hacked.
[06:43] <EvilResistance> M4d3L:  what is your native language?
[06:43] <EvilResistance> s/native/main/
[06:43] <M4d3L> French
[06:43] <EvilResistance> there's a french channel...
[06:44] <EvilResistance> !fr | M4d3L
[06:44] <EvilResistance> but fwiw...
[06:44] <almoxarife> M4d3L: the french channel will tell you the same thing
[06:44] <tonesfrommars> M4d3L: You're doing great.
[06:44] <EvilResistance> lemme see if i can get you a crappy google translation of what i'm saying
[06:44] <EvilResistance> and tonesfrommars is right, you're doing very well with english :)
[06:45] <almoxarife> EvilResistance: it's the slang, does not translate well
[06:45] <M4d3L> tonesfrommars: I dont think because you dont answer my request. that is how to know what php-cgi is running
[06:45] <wrgSVqspB> Echo?
[06:45] <EvilResistance> almoxarife:  true statement
[06:46] <M4d3L> I dont know if is me or.. because its basic.
[06:46] <EvilResistance> M4d3L:  there is no easy way to tell what php-cgi is running, especially if it is serving content for Wordpress.  It is also not uncommon to see Apache and PHP take up tons of memory and resources
[06:46] <tonesfrommars> M4d3L: Do you have many WP installs on your server?
[06:46] <themaster> Echooooo
[06:46] <EvilResistance> themaster:  can we help you with something?
[06:46] <EvilResistance> wrgSVqspB:  can we help you with anything?
[06:46] <tonesfrommars> echo, that's PHP
[06:47] <M4d3L> tonesfrommars: I have many website with different cms on it. I only know the issue is on a specific account because I use suphp
[06:47] <M4d3L> or phpexec... I dont remembre
[06:47] <tonesfrommars> I see, so this process is happening on the host serving WP.
[06:47] <M4d3L> and that specific account use wordpress
[06:48] <buntunub> call me crazy but dont production shops run some pretty beefy firewalls
[06:48] <almoxarife> M4d3L: ok, other than your first hypothesis (I am being hacked) , lets consider how the supposed hacked server is different from all the others?
[06:49] <netboy10> Does anybody know if dell still sell computer with ubuntu preinstalled?
[06:49] <dpierce> M4d3L: might just be some vulnerable wordpress plugin
[06:49] <Resistance> M4d3L:  my original statement does stand, by the way, php5-cgi and Apache, with high traffic sites, can result in it using tons of memory
[06:49] <M4d3L> hacked or not. I only want to shutdown the script taking all the memory
[06:49] <Resistance> netboy10:  they dont, i asked their sales staff
[06:49] <Resistance> M4d3L:  you could fast-restart the php process
[06:49] <Resistance> downtime is only about 5 seconds :p
[06:49] <dpierce> netboy10: no they dont. not unless youre in china anyway
[06:50] <Resistance> dpierce:  they stopped there, too
[06:50] <Resistance> ;P
[06:50] <tp_eddy> hello everyone!  my samsung laptop's touchpad can't work on ubuntu 10.04, How can i open it
[06:50] <M4d3L> Resistance: the process comeback after 10 sec
[06:50] <Resistance> M4d3L:  its supposed to.  its what serves the php content
[06:50] <RSUOGIQAH> mmk
[06:50] <almoxarife> tp_eddy: mouse?
[06:50] <themaster> ehlo
[06:50] <M4d3L> Resistance: its not supose to have 10 process using half of the memory
[06:50] <M4d3L> and cpu
[06:51] <Resistance> actually it is... one's the master the others are likely workers.
[06:51] <tp_eddy> Synaptics
[06:51]  * Resistance has seen this for PHP processes
[06:51] <dpierce> M4d3L: sounds like a typical apache install to me ;P
[06:51] <almoxarife> is this php process part of apache?
[06:51] <Resistance> M4d3L:  yeah, its not uncommon
[06:51] <M4d3L> its a virtualmin server
Synaptics
[06:51] <M4d3L> with standars ubuntu package install
[06:51] <netboy10> Does anybody where I can buy a laptop preinstalled with ubuntu?
[06:51] <Resistance> M4d3L:  what you need to do is edit the php5-cgi config to lower the number of processes it starts, both workers and master processes.
[06:52] <urlin2u> !system76
[06:52] <Resistance> netboy10:  System76 does
[06:52] <almoxarife> netboy10: buy a laptop os free, install it yourself
[06:52] <Resistance> M4d3L:  still not uncommon to have that many PHP processes, especially if yo urun off of default configs
[06:52] <netboy10> Thanks
[06:52] <urlin2u> netboy10, http://www.system76.com/
[06:53] <Resistance> M4d3L:  you might consider tweaking your config for PHP, setting a max and min limit on processes it starts
[06:53] <almoxarife> M4d3L: wouldn't the help people at #apache be able to better answer your questions?
[06:53] <M4d3L> yeah I will go see there
[06:54] <M4d3L> but I will first make some search on that
[06:54] <M4d3L> anyway, ty for your help
[06:54] <M4d3L> and Merry Chirsmas :)
[06:55] <Resistance> almoxarife:  isnt #apache now #httpd ?
[06:55] <OFJHuPcqi> yay!
[06:55] <blackbandit1258> hey. I havea problem. whenever i put a blank DVD in my DVD dtive the drive freezes and wont respond. this only happens with blank  DVDs. CDs work fine
[06:55] <OFJHuPcqi> meery christmas
[06:55]  * almoxarife also learned english as a second language, english make me to puke sometimes, Resistance, no idea
[06:56] <zamiel> @blackbandit what do you see when you look at dmesg
[06:56] <themaster> mmmhmmmhmm
[06:56] <blackbandit1258> @zamiel Whats dmesg?
[06:57] <zamiel> dmesg will show hardware output info from the terminal
[06:57] <blackbandit1258> how do i use it?
[06:57] <afidegnum> hello good morning, pls  I am trying to install packages for my huawei ec 167 modem, and I am having difficulty can you please assist?
[06:57] <zamiel> open a terminal and when you put a blank in type dmesg in the terminal to see what is going on.
[06:57] <afidegnum> I can't install package wvstreams
[06:57] <blackbandit1258> k brb
[06:57] <zamiel> np
[06:58] <almoxarife> is the addition of the 'host' name to a apps log file specific to the app? tell me there is some secret decoder way of throwing the host name into a log file without one
[06:58] <afidegnum> any answer pls ?
[06:58] <almoxarife> !info wstreams
[06:58] <zamiel> afidegnum what is the error
[06:59] <almoxarife> !info wvstreams
[06:59] <DrDamnit> Connected my box to a Samsung TV. Samsung resolution is 1920x1080. I set the nVidia driver settings to auto detect and it recognizes the TV and the resolution; however, the X desktop is about 5% too big for the screen so I cannot see the top or bottom bars. How do i fix this?
[06:59] <almoxarife> afidegnum: would that be because it does not exist?
[06:59] <tp_eddy> how to launch my Synaptics touchpad
[07:00] <zamiel> drDamnit you can configure a lot of this using Xrandr
[07:00] <zamiel> try the man page
[07:00] <zamiel> if your familiar with terminal that is...
[07:00] <blackbandit1258> umm its too long to copy down
[07:00] <DrDamnit> zamiel: xandr?
[07:00] <zamiel> xrandr
[07:01] <almoxarife> DrDamnit: in the user settings for nvidia you will find the correction slider for it, I think its in the 'tv' tab
[07:01] <zamiel> drDamnit: http://www.bigfatostrich.com/tag/xrandr/
[07:01] <zamiel> this may help\
[07:02] <almoxarife> DrDamnit: xvidia setting? nice gui? fixes it
[07:02] <zamiel> or go with almoxarife's suggestion if you want to stay with the GUI interface
[07:02]  * DrDamnit looks
[07:02]  * almoxarife is not ashamed of gui everything
[07:02] <tp_eddy> yestoday I try update kernel but failed, when I turn back kernel I found Synaptics can't work
[07:03] <zamiel> nor should you be... but terminal is faster
[07:04] <zamiel> tp_eddy: cannon solution: backup, fdisk, format, reinstall.
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[07:08] <themaster> mmk
[07:08] <almoxarife> tp_eddy: what version of ubuntu?
[07:09] <tp_eddy> almoxarife: ubuntu 10.04
[07:09] <almoxarife> tp_eddy: you familiar with synaptic?
[07:10] <tp_eddy> almoxarife: not synaptic. it's Synaptics touchpad
[07:11] <pp7> why does "compress" from the menu not work in 11.10?
[07:11] <almoxarife> tp_eddy: I know they both have the same name, how do you add and remove apps?
[07:12] <zamiel> almoxarife i think he means the synaptic package manager.
[07:13] <tp_eddy> almoxarife:apt-get install  remove or dpkg -i -r
[07:13] <almoxarife> zamiel: he thinks I am confusing the two, I am not, all I want him to do is re-install ubuntu-desktop
[07:13] <zamiel> I was in private chat with him, told him to try the failsafe and use apt-get install 0f
[07:13] <zamiel> I was in private chat with him, told him to try the failsafe and use apt-get install -f *
[07:14] <DrDamnit> zamiel & alnoxarife: xrandr crashed X. :-)
[07:14] <DrDamnit> I am on Ubuntu 10.10.
[07:14] <zamiel> Drdamnit what did you do with xrandr
[07:15] <zamiel> did you read the page i posted
[07:15] <almoxarife> tp_eddy: ok, cntr alt f1, log in, in terminal, sudo apt-get remove ubuntu-desktop then follow that with sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[07:15] <zamiel> ?
[07:15] <DrDamnit> I did system > administration > testing and ran the monitor and video tests (per the article you posted). It ran through a series of resolutions, then crashed X and ran me back to gdm login.
[07:15] <tp_eddy> zamiel: not package manager ! I mean laptop's touchpad
[07:16] <zamiel> either way,  the method i mentioned is a step to make sure packages are not damaged.
[07:16] <zamiel> @tp-eddy
[07:16] <almoxarife> DrDamnit: I suggested nvidia configuration app, nice gui that lets you fix the over-scan
[07:17] <tp_eddy> almoxarife:OK, thx
[07:17] <DrDamnit> almoxarife: I cannot find the "slider". Where should I be looking? What would it be named?
[07:17] <almoxarife> DrDamnit: is the app open?
[07:17] <DrDamnit> yes.
[07:18] <DrDamnit> Flat Panel scaling is checked, but when I uncheck it, the app crashes. Same with changing the GPU scaling method.
[07:18] <almoxarife> DrDamnit: left side, lots of options, near bottom, something about the tv?
[07:18] <r4y> I can't get a hold of faz. I suppose I messed up. I tried suggesting he get a new card and he didn't want to and left.
[07:19] <almoxarife> DrDamnit: stop clicking on shit
[07:19] <DrDamnit> Nope. Closest thing is a DFP-0 SAMSUNG, which is the manufacturer of this TV. Incidentally, I have a DVI to HDMI connector on the card, and the other end of the HDMI cable is obviously plugged into the TV.
[07:19] <zamiel> r4y: dont feel bad, its free advice we give. you get what you pay for...
[07:19]  * DrDamnit stopped clicking on shit.
[07:19] <Rogue|Panda> howdy
[07:19] <r4y> I mean I would have tried to help him install or fix his card to work but I am limited in my knowledge
[07:20] <almoxarife> DrDamnit: cool, it opens another options list, yes?
[07:20] <DrDamnit> Yes. Native resolution, best fit resolution, etc...
[07:20] <almoxarife> DrDamnit: second to last option is what?
[07:20] <Rogue|Panda> I need to set some boot flags for my machine, I know there is a GRUB file to edit, but forgot which one. Anyone throw me a bone?
[07:20] <zamiel> r4y: the fact that your on this channel, days before xmas, giving up your free time. We appreciate you being here and trying...
[07:20] <r4y> I remember I gave up on 2 linux oses thinking I would never get my wireless card working then I tried Ubuntu and it worked out of the box for free
[07:21] <DrDamnit> There are only three active controls, however, "Force Full GPU Scaling", "GPU Scaling Method" and Digital Vibrance (a slider). There is also a button: "Acuire EDID."
[07:22] <r4y> I don't celebrate Christmas, but I am not against others enjoying them selves. Happy Christmas everyone here who celebrates it. :)
[07:23] <drhester7> r4y: why dont you celebrate christmas
[07:23] <r4y> Why do I need to?
[07:23] <yJOnIGiHR> mmmhmm
[07:23] <themaster> hhhm
[07:23] <drhester7> i guess you dont.
[07:23] <almoxarife> DrDamnit: http://www.ypass.net/blog/2010/04/nvidia-overscan-correction-fixed-in-latest-drivers/ <-- find that option
[07:23] <drhester7> i would just think its fun
[07:24] <Rogue|Panda> some of us have to celebrate Christmas lol
[07:24] <zamiel> r4y. good point
[07:24] <drhester7> enjoyable
[07:24] <r4y> Thank you all for trying to help me help someone.
[07:24] <drhester7> whatever lol i like it.. free stuff!.. kinda
[07:25] <DrDamnit> almoxarife: I just found that too. (I didn't know it was called overscan, which was vital to my Google Fu skills. )Which option on there do you recommend?
[07:25] <almoxarife> DrDamnit: THE CIRCLED ONE!
[07:25] <almoxarife> sorry
[07:25] <drhester7> r4y: you might be able to help me out if you want
[07:26] <r4y> How?
[07:26] <pp7> why does "compress" from the menu not work in 11.10?
[07:26] <DrDamnit> I don't have that slider. Doe sthat mean I should update my drivers?
[07:26] <drhester7> I want to be able to use demonoid but i need someone to invite me. atc3030 would have but he's out of invites.
[07:27] <almoxarife> DrDamnit: using nvidia-current?
[07:27]  * DrDamnit checks...
[07:27] <r4y> I am not familiar with demoniod
[07:28] <drhester7> hmm well that's unfortunate
[07:28] <zamiel> demonoid? the BT search engine?
[07:28] <DrDamnit> almoxarife: yes.
[07:28] <drhester7> yes
[07:28] <mysteriousdarren> ppl go offtopic for this convo
[07:28] <mysteriousdarren> sorry
[07:28] <meskarune> demoniod is a torrent host, not just a search engine
[07:29] <drhester7> anyone willing to invite me?
[07:29] <drhester7> on demonoid
[07:29] <meskarune> but demoniod isn't secure anymore
[07:29] <r4y> I found this: http://torrentscan.com/
[07:29] <meskarune> its been compromized
[07:29] <almoxarife> DrDamnit: you have 'nvidia-current' installed, and don't see the slider, that's a mystery then
[07:29] <zamiel> you know if you use other mass torrent engines through the TOR network it will connect to demonoid even though it throws an error... try www.kickasstorrents.com
[07:30] <DrDamnit> almoxarfie: Noooooooooo! OK.
[07:30] <zamiel> and for your sake use the TOR network
[07:30] <zamiel> just to connect to the tracker...
[07:30] <meskarune> DO NOT download torrents using tor
[07:30] <almoxarife> !ot
[07:30] <VanessaE> good evening.  Quick question:  what's the disposition of this resume-from-suspend black-screen issue a lot of people seem to be having?  I am affected as well.  Is there a solution?
[07:30] <r4y> I use deluge
[07:30] <meskarune> if you really really need an onion routing solution, use i2p
[07:30] <meskarune> Tor is not for p2p file downloading
[07:31] <drhester7> r4y: for torrents?
[07:31] <r4y> yes
[07:31] <zamiel> demonoid? the BT search engine?y pass that is...
[07:31] <zamiel> if you want to be safe when the PIPA and SOPA dogs come a barking... if they pass that is
[07:31] <drhester7> how well does it work?
[07:31] <pnorman> I am considering swapping the motherboard in my ubuntu server. Is there anything special to be aware of? I am not using onboard raid or anything else special, although obviously I'd need to redo my sensors.conf
[07:31] <almoxarife> hello, the torrent help channel is next door at #torrents-are-us
[07:31] <meskarune> also why are you asking for an invite to demoniod in the #ubuntu channel? you should do things like that in #ubuntu-offtopic
[07:31] <r4y> I read somewhere it is great for uploading
[07:32] <afidegnum> zamiel:  almoxarife  I was following this instructions, http://citycellmodemtroubleshoot.blogspot.com/2011/01/installation-of-ec167-modem-in-ubuntu.html
[07:32] <zamiel> if you use a torrent client like transmission.. use the TOR network to conenct to the trackers. and use encryption required your better off.
[07:32] <zamiel> that is if your using torify to download the torrent files....
[07:33] <boyglick> hi is there a ubuntu mongolia channel?
[07:33] <zamiel> later all...
[07:34] <boyglick> is there a ubuntu mongolian language channel?
[07:34] <zamiel> nm
[07:34] <almoxarife> DrDamnit: wait, its there, its hidden, can you move the window up?
[07:34] <meskarune> https://blog.torproject.org/blog/bittorrent-over-tor-isnt-good-idea
[07:35] <afidegnum> zamiel:  almoxarife  can you please look at this ? https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/wvstreams
[07:35] <meskarune> http://www.i2p2.de/
[07:35] <zamiel> meskarune: that is true. however connecting to the tracker via TOR is massivly advised...
[07:35] <almoxarife> !ops
[07:35] <zamiel> not the actual download of the files.
[07:35] <meskarune> in any case, if you are only downloading legitament files, there is no need to use an anonimizer
[07:36] <almoxarife> take the torrent talk elsewhere, its old
[07:36] <zamiel> meskarune: that is a grey area depending on your view of data and "ownership"
[07:36] <meskarune> zamiel: NO ONE advises people to torrent over TOR. It puts a huge strain on the TOR network and its not secure. People who do that are being jerks
[07:36] <r4y> what does beta mean?
[07:36] <meskarune> TOR is for people in places like Iraq and China to get full access to the internet. Its for free speach, not file sharing
[07:36] <almoxarife> afidegnum: ok, I see the package, what is the issue?
[07:37] <zamiel> meskarune: did you read the part of only connecting to the tracker via TOR? please read...
[07:37] <afidegnum> I can't install it
[07:37] <meskarune> zamiel: you should use i2p, which is like tor, but made for torrenting
[07:37] <afidegnum> whenever I ran apt-get install wvstreams I have a package not found error
[07:37] <afidegnum> unable to locate package wvstreams
[07:38] <zamiel> afidengnum. that is because it is no longer in the repositories. or the ones you have enabled anyway...
[07:38] <meskarune> zamiel: and its not actually a "grey area" according to the law, it is illegal to download movies, games, music, etc that you did not buy.
[07:38] <afidegnum> ok, how do I get them pls ?
[07:39] <themaster> dhfgjhjk
[07:39] <zamiel> afidegnum: http://www.ubuntuupdates.org/packages/show/360198
[07:39] <VanessaE> meskarune: in what country?
[07:39] <sammy> so gparted has that nifty window that lists all the filesystems it supports. is there a way to get that info from parted on the command line?
[07:39] <zamiel> meskarune: not all laws are ment to be followed.
[07:39] <meskarune> so don't kid yourself. know that what you are doing is illegal and realize that. Its fine to disagree with the law. I personally disagree with much of issues in copyright law.
[07:40] <zamiel> some are outright wrong...
[07:40] <sammy> meskarune: mlkjr said youre supposed to break the laws you think are unjust, and a judge will sort it out. though I dont think this a discussion for this channel :)
[07:40] <meskarune> zamiel: the point is that there can be repercussions
[07:41] <afidegnum> zamiel:  how do I install it pls ?
[07:41] <meskarune> please do not promote people using tor to hide their bit torenting. The TOR network should not be used for that.
[07:41] <sammy> you can use TOR to anonymously download things like an ubuntu torrent, thats legal. *shrug*
[07:41] <meskarune> I gave an alternative program i2p. use that
[07:42] <meskarune> sammy: the point is that torrenting over TOR puts a huge strain on their network that they cannot support. i2p is made for torrenting, so use that instead.
[07:42] <zamiel> meskarune: that is personal opinion. perhaps you should research the TOR network and its origins. did you know its partially funded by the US gov?
[07:42] <sammy> from torproject.org: "So what's the fix? There are two answers here. The first answer is "don't run Bittorrent over Tor". We've been saying for years not to run Bittorrent over Tor, because the Tor network can't handle the load;" you can google 'bittorrent over tor isnt good idea to find the writeup. i2p is a better option, for sure.
[07:42] <zamiel> afidengnum: download the package and install it with gdebi package manager
[07:43] <DrDamnit> how do I change the runlevel to boot to a shell rather than to X?
[07:43] <almoxarife> DrDamnit: wait, its there, its hidden, can you move the window up?
[07:44] <meskarune> in your grub list put "ro 3" at the end of the kernel line, and you'll boot straight into the terminal
[07:44] <zamiel> sammy & meskarune there is a difference between using low bandwith connection to a tracker using TOR and using it to actually pull the torrent. please do your research before responding...
[07:44] <afidegnum> zamiel: can you pls through more light ?
[07:44] <DrDamnit> almoxarife: I cannot move it. There is only one slider (vibrance) and then Detect EDID is below that. Expanding the window downwards reveals nothing. I think I just need the newest driver.
[07:45] <DrDamnit> almoxarife: I take that back. I CAN move it, but it doesn't reveal anything new. :-(
[07:45] <almoxarife> afidegnum: what are you trying to do exactly? compile from source?
[07:45] <zamiel> afidegnum: the package is not available from your apt-get repositories. so if you want to install it you need to download the package to your local machine and install it. one easy way to do this is to use gdebi package manager.
[07:45] <zamiel> if you do not have gdebi package manager use #sudo apt-get install gdebi
[07:46] <mysteriousdarren> +1 tp zamiel for setting the record straight
[07:46] <almoxarife> DrDamnit: that's really strange, you can see the bottom borders?
[07:46] <almoxarife> afidegnum: what are you trying to do exactly? compile from source?
[07:46] <mysteriousdarren> *to
[07:46] <sammy> zamiel: so youre going to connect to a tracker with tor but expose your public IP to do the p2p data transfer over? why use tor in the first place?
[07:47] <almoxarife> !ops
[07:47] <zamiel> sammy: your still pushing the BT actuall traffic over a "required encryption" stream. The isp only sees you making enc connections to other clients. without a lot of work its very hard to find out what your actually doing...
[07:47] <DrDamnit> almoxarife: Yep. See all the borders. What's strange is that if I click on ANYTHING that has to do with the TV (that "SAMSUNG" panel), the app crashes.
[07:48] <Guest41126> how to cend mail in terminal pless help me
[07:49] <DrDamnit> Guest41126: use mailx
[07:49] <Guest41126> ok
[07:49] <Guest41126> how dow you cend mail in it
[07:50] <DrDamnit> man mailx
[07:50] <sammy> zamiel: if all youre wanting to do is hide the fact that youre torrenting, I guess. as long as no one you connect to is using a standard bittorrent port. last time I checked, ISPs dont really care if you download things ilegally unless the copyright holder complains, and they usually get your public IP from participating in the torrent themselves, so your method would still expose you to your ISP when/if the copyright holder complained...
[07:50] <DrDamnit> mailx -s "Subject" recpient@somewhere.com
[07:50] <DrDamnit> then type message, and end with ^D
[07:50] <zamiel> sammy: do you know about the six strikes agreement signed by all the telecoms?
[07:50] <zamiel> they do care and they are actively hunting users..
[07:50] <mysteriousdarren> zamiel: can I pm u?
[07:51] <zamiel> darren sure..
[07:51] <Guest41126> than you man
[07:51] <DrDamnit> You're welcome.
[07:51] <cyclicflux> yoooooo
[07:52] <boyglick> is there a mongolia ubuntu channel?
[07:52] <meskarune> TOR doesn't encrypt your data stream, it just hides your rl location
[07:52] <boyglick> anyone?
[07:53] <meskarune> boyglick: if there isn't, you can make one. :)
[07:53] <boyglick> meskarune, yeah and id be the only one in it :)
[07:55] <VanessaE> can someone answer my resume-from-suspend question?
[07:55] <mysteriousdarren> meskarune: please pm me
[07:56] <meskarune> mysteriousdarren: are you a spammer?
[07:56] <mysteriousdarren> meskarune: nope
[07:56] <pnorman> I am considering swapping the motherboard in my ubuntu server. Is there anything special to be aware of? I am not using onboard raid or anything else special, although obviously I'd need to redo my sensors.conf
[07:57] <mysteriousdarren> pnorman: is there anything else special you want or need?
[07:57] <zamiel_> pnorman: is it to a board of the same type.
[07:57] <zamiel_> ?
[07:57] <VanessaE> pnorman: where commodity hardware is concerned, I usually don't have to worry about the motherboard - rather, add-in cards (e.g. video, wireless, etc) are where the problems will usually show up.
[07:57] <pnorman> zamiel_: Currently it's a non-functioning AMD 880G board. I'd be going to an 880GX board (that works)
[07:58] <sammy> zamiel: I had not until you mentioned it, though it doesn't seem to imply theyre actively doing anything, it seems more of an agreement to assume if youve gotten six copyright infringement notices that its probably not a coincidence or mistake. and I guess that's people's folly for using major telecoms as ISPs -- anyone conducting illegal business should know better and use other ISPs that aren't in bed with content providers (or are the content provider
[07:58] <hacked_kernel> Is there a room for UbuntuOne dev ?
[07:59] <zamiel_> sammy: this is true, but there are massive numbers of users that are looking for just the information that i have posted in this room...
[07:59] <pnorman> VanessaE: I'd be keeping the same PCI intel network card and it's ubuntu server, so my video requirements are pretty minimal
[08:00] <zamiel_> while i agree that BT should not be over the TOR network on its own many do not understand what the TOR network is or where it comes from...
[08:00] <VanessaE> pnorman: any other special devices, e.g. SCSI interface, PATA, parallel, etc?
[08:00] <zamiel_> even fewer understand what the darknet is...
[08:01] <zamiel_> sammy: and they are active... helped a few users so far...
[08:01] <mysteriousdarren> zamiel: true and few should know either
[08:01] <pnorman> VanessaE: Well, this all started trying to get a Supermicro SATA card working, but it's not installed yet. I do use the COM port, but that's non-critical (i.e. it can stop working and the server will still boot up)
[08:01] <VanessaE> hm
[08:01] <zamiel_> mysteriousdarren: that is also true, but if someone uses google they are already on the right track...
[08:02] <VanessaE> well, obviously you'll have to do further research, but generally speaking, I can't think of any reasons why the new hardware would fail.
[08:02] <hacked_kernel> ubottu, ubuntu one development irc channel
[08:03] <hacked_kernel> ubottu, help
[08:03] <mysteriousdarren> zamiel: being in the right solar system being on the right spot on a planet are two totally different things
[08:03] <meskarune> zamiel and sammy: please take your bit torrent conversation to #ubuntu-offtopic or private chat
[08:04] <juniour> hi
[08:04] <VanessaE> worst case scenario:  the new board (or some component plugged into it) doesn't work, and finds its way back to the store/vendor, right?
[08:04] <juniour> hey guys
[08:04] <zamiel_> meskarune: are you OP?
[08:04] <juniour> merry christmas
[08:04] <juniour> to aal
[08:04] <juniour> all you guys
[08:04] <juniour> here
[08:04] <meskarune> zamiel: read the channel rules
[08:04] <Stepnjump> Good night everyone
[08:05] <zamiel_> meskarune: rules are to be broken...
[08:05] <mysteriousdarren> zamiel_: I hate to say this and I would totally help both of you but this is the wrong channel for it.
[08:05] <mysteriousdarren> zamiel_: plus ops are never far away
[08:05] <zamiel_> np
[08:06] <zamiel_> let em examine this thread
[08:06] <zamiel_> if they find fault then they will let me know...
[08:06] <ntenisOT> hello.. I create a php file and I have to use exec() to execute adb which I have previously add to my environment variables.. Unfortunately I get permission denied (error 126). How can I fix that?
[08:07] <zamiel_> ntenisOT: did you check the file permissions?
[08:07] <VanessaE> Bump (no answer after 37 minutes of off-topic chat) -- Question:  What's the disposition of this resume-from-suspend black-screen issue a lot of people seem to be having?  I am affected as well.  Is there a solution?
[08:08] <VanessaE> (11.10, freshly-installed on a Dell Insp. 9200 boat anch...er...laptop)
[08:08] <pnorman> tbh, I'm hoping to *not* have to buy a new motherboard, for hassle reasons more than cost
[08:08] <ntenisOT> zamiel_ but it is not a file. its ADB from android. I want to display a list of connected devices using exec('adb devices');
[08:09] <r4y> How do I check freenode to see if a nick is currently on
[08:09] <VanessaE> pnorman: I think I missed the reasoning - why is a new motherboard a possibility here?  Something fried?
[08:10] <almoxarife> VanessaE: I have a dell also that I have never managed to get resume from suspend to work on, and I have tried every thing I could think of, it's a dual boot, and the pisser is that windows does sleep and return
[08:10] <zamiel_> ntenisOT: from the android device or from the computer
[08:11] <ajwill> hi, could someone please point me to a list of audio plugins included with Ubuntu Studio?
[08:11] <VanessaE> almoxarife: see, I've had the opposite experience - it's always "just worked" as the tagline goes, with only minor glitches that are easily fixed by a quick config tweak or so.
[08:12] <boyglick> whats the ubuntu russian channel?
[08:12] <Tech-1> !ru
[08:12] <ntenisOT> zamiel_ From a webserver runnning ubuntu 11.10. When I run adb devices in terminal everything works fine but when I am trying to open my php (ex devices.php) where I have the exec command then it is not working. I believe it is because user www-data does not have permissions to run adb.. Is it possible to find which group can execute adb commands and add www-data to that group?
[08:12] <VanessaE> of course, all of our machines here are linux-based (windows in a virtual machine when needed)
[08:12] <pnorman> VanessaE: It looks that way. It doesn't do anything on startup. It just didn't come back on one reboot. I'm going to try various things, but worst case I have to get a new motherboard, which would be done by getting a new gaming motherboard and bumping the current one to the server
[08:13] <meskarune> VanessaE: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingKernelSuspend
[08:13] <almoxarife> VanessaE: if you manage to get the dell to resume from suspend please do share, it would be worth knowing where the trick lies
[08:13] <zamiel_> ntenisOT: it is however I can remember the step... LMGT
[08:13] <VanessaE> pnorman: well given that, I'd say your guess is accurate.  Well, at least you get an upgrade out of the deal! :-)
[08:14] <VanessaE> almoxarife: sure thing; it worked fine under....mmm.. Maverick I think it had before
[08:14] <pnorman> VanessaE: I *really* don't want to reinstall Windows and set up a new motherboard
[08:14] <VanessaE> pnorman: well the replacement does seem similar enough, maybe windows won't complain?
[08:15] <VanessaE> meskarune: reading now...
[08:15] <ntenisOT> zamiel_ thanks mate
[08:16] <pnorman> VanessaE: I currently have an AMD motherboard for gaming, since Phenom IIs were the best at the price point when I bought it pre-sandybridge. Although I could buy a new AMD motherboard, it'd be stupid to do anything other than sandybridge and 2500K for gaming at this point. I've found windows to be a lot pickier about hardware than ubuntu is.
[08:17] <VanessaE> meskarune: hrm, doesn't seem to be a lot here that I can make sense of, as my suspend issue is:  doesn't seem to suspend at all (just blanks screen and activates Xlock), or when it does, it won't resume (blank screen, keyboard works enough to at least REISUB)
[08:17] <meskarune> VanessaE: also make sure you have enough swap space
[08:17] <pnorman> anyways, AFK with my head in the server
[08:18] <VanessaE> meska:  There is adequate swap, but this problem occurs with suspend-to-RAM also.
[08:19] <VanessaE> meskarune: it worked fine under the previous install, Maverick I think it had.
[08:19] <naftilos76> hi, can anybody help me with nail config file?
[08:19] <naftilos76> i cannot seem to make it work
[08:19] <VanessaE> pnorman: good luck.
[08:21] <lyrae> new gnome is a disaster
[08:21] <lyrae> my goodness
[08:21] <ablegreen> anyone know how to reduce the latency of a webcam stream to as low as possible?
[08:21] <VanessaE> ablegreen: lighting.
[08:21] <meskarune> I love how people freak out every time there is a UI change.
[08:21] <Erfolg> gnome 3 > all
[08:21] <VanessaE> the more light you have, the faster the cam will capture frames
[08:21] <meskarune> so many gnome complaints
[08:21] <lyrae> im not freaking out
[08:21] <Erfolg> unity = fail though
[08:21] <lyrae> im just blatantly saying
[08:21] <ablegreen> vanessaE: thanks
[08:21] <VanessaE> meskarune: XFCE Is Your Friend (tm)
[08:22] <lyrae> had to switch to gnome shell
[08:22] <VanessaE> :)
[08:22] <meskarune> VanessaE: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1144999
[08:22] <stevecam> Erfolg, agreed
[08:22] <meskarune> I use fluxbox
[08:22] <lyrae> because unity was just..
[08:22] <VanessaE> able: also, of course there's the issue of what interface (and what speed variant therein) the cam uses
[08:22] <VanessaE> dammit.
[08:22] <Erfolg> idk why they thought unity was a good idea
[08:22] <zamiel_> ntenisOT: try running adb in root mode
[08:22] <zamiel_> adb root
[08:23] <VanessaE> Erfolg: because "everyone" uses a tablet today.  Right?  umm...right?? :-)
[08:23] <meskarune> lots of people like unity. its more touch friendly, which is what tech is moving toward now.
[08:23] <VanessaE> pfft.
[08:23] <stevecam> its unstable
[08:24] <Tech-1> 2 much like win
[08:24] <Erfolg> unity sucks. they should have just gone with gnome 3 and supported the gnome 3 project instead of creating their own.
[08:24] <zamiel_> meskarune: not all, there is too much kruft with unity. more hardware demands. not as fast on older equip...
[08:24] <meskarune> I don't use unity
[08:24] <DeltaEpsilon> hi
[08:24] <meskarune> but its silly to say that it sucks or that its terrible
[08:24] <meskarune> its different
[08:24] <meskarune> that is all
[08:24] <FloodBot1> meskarune: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:25] <DeltaEpsilon> is there any native GTK IDE for php with xdebug and git support?
[08:25] <lyrae> its 'terrible' from different point of view
[08:25] <meskarune> if you don't like it, use soemthing else
[08:25] <zamiel_> different does not mean good...
[08:25] <lyrae> coders and developers, for instance
[08:25] <lyrae> and newer is not always better :)
[08:25] <meskarune> different also doesn't mean bad
[08:25] <Erfolg> it's unstable. if they had worked on gnome 3 there would be at least 1 stable desktop environment. not 2 that are lacking.
[08:25] <zamiel_> agreed
[08:25] <stevecam> meskarune, its not ready, it should of been left in development
[08:26] <meskarune> switch to debian?
[08:26] <lyrae> Anyways, i believe theres a bug with the gnome terminal, as i just formatted and bug still persists. could anyone verify?
[08:26] <VanessaE> I think it's terrible because it represents such a drastic change to one's workflow.
[08:26] <lyrae> i edit the profile to have menu bar off new windows, but menu bar always persists
[08:26] <meskarune> most of the things put into ubuntu should be in developement still.
[08:26] <zamiel_> brb
[08:26] <meskarune> like all the beta software....
[08:26] <Tech-1> meskarune:  you talk with a forked tonguev
[08:26] <VanessaE> the panel-plus-start-menu paradigm became as popular as it did for a reason - it works well.
[08:27] <almoxarife> ubuntu has a very nice stable configurable desktop, its called plasma-workspace
[08:27] <attilio> list
[08:27] <meskarune> I don't have a start menu or panel
[08:27] <lyrae> i dont either, but not by choice
[08:28] <lyrae> and it takes me longer to get to places
[08:28] <mysteriousdarren> lxde
[08:28] <VanessaE> I have.  A variant of the two-panel layout XFCE defaults to these days (though highly customized)
[08:28] <meskarune> lyrae: tab complete. :)
[08:28] <lyrae> meskarune, pfft
[08:28] <lyrae> used to have all my remote servers under 'places'. now i don't even have a menu with 'places'
[08:29] <meskarune> make a folder called places, sym link all your servers to that folder
[08:29] <VanessaE>  /remote-filesystems
[08:29] <VanessaE> :)
[08:29] <lyrae> looks like they dont want us creating folder son the desktop though
[08:30] <stevecam> i find it rude of ubuntu to not include an option to select the gnome-shell from the login screen
[08:30] <lyrae> its ok ill adapt
[08:30] <stevecam> "We are happy with this change, you should be too!"
[08:31] <lyrae> so can anyone confirm the gnome-terminal bug with me? =(
[08:31] <meskarune> there is a simple solution though: use another distrobution. like mint, or debian
[08:31] <stevecam> what bug is it?
[08:31] <lyrae> i even checked the xml settings file and the value for menu bar is off there
[08:31] <lyrae> not sure why it stays on
[08:31] <lyrae> stevecam, edit your gnome-terminal profile to have menu bar off on new terminal windows. it wont stay off
[08:32] <lyrae> and this happened before i formatted (just formatted, fresh clean install right now. and its happening still)
[08:32] <stevecam> meskarune, i was really happy with ubuntu, i am a annoyed at this change because it feels like what was ubuntu is now something else
[08:32] <fullmetal> stevecam: you can always try a different ubuntu flavor like CrunchBang that is still a debian base...
[08:33] <fullmetal> just with less kruft...
[08:33] <lyrae> or wait for mint to fork gnome and fix it back
[08:33] <ssfdre38> if i installed my own Gnome using jhbuild, would that kill Unity?
[08:34] <meskarune> just install debian
[08:34] <meskarune> its more stable anyways
[08:34] <meskarune> but a bit more work
[08:34] <juniour> ssfdre 38 yes
[08:35] <imgx64> There is a bug that affects me. I searched and found it on Launchpad  (https://bugs.launchpad.net/nautilus/+bug/550006). However, that bug was closed as "Fix Released" over a year ago. Should I report a new bug or is there is a way to re-open it?
[08:35] <ssfdre38> juniour, would that break my OS or no?
[08:35] <stevecam> lyrae, i'm getting the same problem, but it doesn't bother me
[08:35] <lyrae> stevecam, ok just checking. thanks
[08:36] <kamelot314> sudo apt-get under installation mode
[08:36] <stevecam> how would i get the menu bar back without closing the shell
[08:36] <wkJcLHsUi> echo
[08:36] <fullmetal> bravo
[08:36] <lyrae> stevecam, if you right click, the option is there
[08:36] <lyrae> 'show menu bar'
[08:36] <ssfdre38> delta
[08:36] <fullmetal> foxtrot
[08:36] <stevecam> it is too lol
[08:37] <ZYmvykzhp> ho ho ho
[08:37] <juniour> ssfdre38 no
[08:37] <ssfdre38> hey how come ff 9 works better then ff 8 that is from the distro?
[08:37] <lyrae> I wish there was a version of ubuntu without all 3rd parties hardware like empathy, games, etc
[08:37] <ZYmvykzhp> and a meeerrry christmas
[08:37] <stevecam> the settings appear to be saving, just not loading when i start up gnome-terminal
[08:37] <lyrae> and you install what you want only
[08:37] <juniour> ssfdre38 wt exectly you wanna do
[08:37] <fullmetal> lyrae: sudo apt-get remove....
[08:38] <ssfdre38> juniour, thinking of updating to Gnome 3.2
[08:38] <meskarune> lyrae: there is. install the server edition of ubuntu
[08:38] <fullmetal> or crunchbang is a good decruft version of debian..
[08:38] <lyrae> meskarune, even that comes with apache, php, etc, no?
[08:38] <fullmetal> really its debian with an installer script...
[08:38] <meskarune> or why not install debian testing?
[08:38] <lyrae> yea im looking at crunchbag but it says
[08:38] <lyrae> it comes with more apps by default than ubuntu
[08:38] <juniour> ssfdre38 you unity will be killed
[08:38] <meskarune> debian testing is rolling release, it has gnome, its nearly the same as ubuntu
[08:39] <lyrae> 'CrunchBang has been reported to boot faster than Ubuntu[7] while still including a larger number of applications by default than a standard Ubuntu installation.'
[08:39] <imgx64> lyrae, download the "alternate CD" (http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu/alternative-download#alternate) which allows you to only install a basic Ubuntu system with no GUI or extra programs.
[08:39] <fullmetal> lyrae. yep. high speed. low drag...
[08:39] <flysnowchiu> ubuntu server
[08:39] <mysteriousdarren> lyrae: why is that?
[08:39] <lyrae> imgx64, looking into it.
[08:39] <lyrae> why is what?
[08:39] <meskarune> if you want really minimal install with lots of control go with slackware or arch linux
[08:40] <pp7> lyrae: who cares nowadays about boot time and number of apps installed by default that you can install easily anyway?
[08:40] <imgx64> Ubuntu server still comes with some programs (Apache, etc).
[08:40] <lyrae> but ive been using ubuntu since 06 =(
[08:40] <mysteriousdarren> faster with more programs? better dev, and less beta?
[08:40] <lyrae> i wanna stay true to it lol
[08:40] <lyrae> im loyal
[08:40] <meskarune> you can't always easily uninstall applications. sometimes they leave things behind
[08:40] <fullmetal> so are lemmings...
[08:40] <lyrae> pp7, not so much boot time...just junk in the hard drive.
[08:40] <mysteriousdarren> just install the core and the desktop environment and go from there
[08:41] <lyrae> its like buying a computer at best buy and getting it with AOL, Norton, 1000+ other things
[08:41] <lyrae> that you have to uninstall
[08:41] <fullmetal> lyrae: true, however do you want out of the box functionality? if so its a necessity
[08:41] <stevecam> lyrae, ever bought a computer with MyWebSearch?
[08:41] <pp7> so Crunchbang comes with more junk preinstalled?
[08:42] <lyrae> pp7, according to wikipedia, eys
[08:42] <lyrae> yes*
[08:42] <pp7> eek
[08:42] <fullmetal> dont hate it until you try it...
[08:42] <Tech-1> puppy slacko ftw
[08:42] <meskarune> sometimes minimal = lots of programs that do one thing well, vs. robust = one program taht does everything
[08:42] <monacelli> there's always arch
[08:42] <lyrae> fullmetal, yeah i understand. but technically, couldn't i install the alternate CD, install synaptic and then just install what i want?
[08:43] <meskarune> monacelli: yeah, I mentioned arch, but they wanna stay with ubuntu
[08:43] <llutz> !minimal | lyrae:
[08:43] <lyrae> meskarune, but isnt that the philosophy of linux? lots of small programs that do one thing well. cp , rm, cat, ls,
[08:43] <lyrae> llutz, yes i think i will try that
[08:43] <fullmetal> lyrae: even alternate is packaging on more then what your looking for...
[08:44] <fullmetal> *i think
[08:44] <lyrae> =|
[08:44] <llutz> alternate-cd installs same stuff as desktop does, just the installer is different (cli, ncurses)
[08:45] <meskarune> lyrae: its the unix philosophy. Linux is a unix clone. but ubuntu does not follow that philosophy. they have a different one. (which is neither better or worse)
[08:45] <lyrae> i see
[08:46] <Acaldeira> hey
[08:46] <Acaldeira> Can anyone help me?
[08:46] <lyrae> i dont know, can we?
[08:46] <fullmetal> acaldeira: depends...
[08:46] <Acaldeira> I just installed ubuntu but i have a problem
[08:46] <imgx64> The problem with the minimal CD is that you can't install it offline.
[08:46] <fullmetal> do tell...
[08:47] <lyrae> imgx64, thats ok though. im always connected
[08:47] <ruben> hello
[08:47] <meskarune> lyrae: ubuntu's philosophy is to be as  human friendly as possible.
[08:47] <Acaldeira> the installation went smooth and it asked me to reboot
[08:47] <Acaldeira> but when i did
[08:47] <Guest6939> somebody can hel me with my xubuntu?
[08:47] <Acaldeira> this message appeared
[08:47] <Acaldeira> Reboot and select proper boot device or insert boot media in selected boot device and press a key
[08:47] <lyrae> i see
[08:47] <imgx64> Ah, okay.
[08:47] <lyrae> i guess when they human they mean average users
[08:48] <fullmetal> acaldeira sounds like it was a misconfig for the HDD selection... or could be a problem in BIOS with AHCI selected instead of legacy...
[08:48] <VanessaE> Acaldeira: sounds like the machine is asking you to select which drive to boot from via your BIOS
[08:48] <imgx64> So, I'm affected by an old bug marked as fixed. Should I report a new bug or is there a way to open the old one (closed over a year ago)?
[08:48] <meskarune> lyrae: yeah. :)
[08:48] <llutz> lyrae: more, targeting  "new users"
[08:48] <lyrae> meainstreaming it
[08:48] <Acaldeira> i thought so too, so i went into the bios config and all was alright :/
[08:49] <VanessaE> current linux distros get a little stupid regarding the system's boot device, because devices aren't numbered in a consistent order anymore
[08:49] <meskarune> img64: are you using an old version of ubuntu?
[08:49] <Guest6939> compaq 1.8GHz 2GB RAM FSB 533MHz and my Xubuntu use the 100% of their CPU
[08:49] <VanessaE> so you might have accidentally installed your boot loader (grub) to something other than the drive your machine usually boots from
[08:49] <imgx64> meskarune: Nope, 11.10.
[08:49] <Guest6939> and only have open 3 windows of firefox and the kompozer
[08:49] <VanessaE> (say, a USB stick, an external drive, a second disk for mass storage, etc)
[08:49] <lyrae> ok so
[08:50] <ssfdre38> Guest6939, and what is your question?
[08:50] <meskarune> imgx64: is the old bug for a different version of ubuntu than what you are running? if so, its a new bug. :)
[08:50] <Acaldeira> hum...
[08:50] <lyrae> archlinux and slackware for minimal junk distros?
[08:50] <Guest6939> why
[08:50] <tsaknorris> Relaxing Christmas for everyone. Maligayang Pasko sa lahat. Rauhallista Joulua kaikille. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4-9TW7tZD_U :D
[08:50] <Guest6939> ???
[08:50] <Acaldeira> so how do i fix it?
[08:50] <rick_> I have no problem with the boot order-unless you mix sata and ide and even thern it is not a big deal
[08:50] <mysteriousdarren> guest: use a different browser
[08:50] <Guest6939> why my cpu are at 100% ever
[08:50] <meskarune> lyrae: I'm partial to arch linux. its my favorite distro
[08:51] <lyrae> meskarune, why is that?
[08:51] <VanessaE> Acaldeira: depends on your hardware - if you have two hard drives, try changing the boot order in your BIOS
[08:51] <auronandace> Guest6939: it is an old cpu
[08:51] <Guest6939> yes
[08:51] <rick_> Lubuntu is the better small derititive
[08:51] <Acaldeira> just one hdd
[08:51] <imgx64> I also checked a fresh install of 11.10  and it also has that bug, so I think *everyone* is affected by the bug (https://bugs.launchpad.net/nautilus/+bug/550006). Banshee appears multiple times in "Open With Other Application..." dialog.
[08:51] <Guest6939> but with xubuntu dont must to have problems
[08:51] <tsaknorris> when we get "working" java in ubuntu? I need SUN java to pay my bills in internet :D
[08:52] <auronandace> Guest6939: firefox is not a light app, and if you use flash then your cpu is simply too old
[08:52] <meskarune> lyrae: its rolling release, so its always up to date. its super easy to compile programs. Its not buggy. You system only has the programs you want on it. The community is awesome, etc
[08:52] <Acaldeira> I can boot ubuntu from the USB though, when that window appears and asks you if you want to try ubuntu or install
[08:52] <thechris> X no longer starts at boot.
[08:52] <thechris> startx does work
[08:52] <Guest6939> ok its for the flash at firefox
[08:52] <Humbedooh> "working" java?
[08:52] <Humbedooh> it works quite well :)
[08:52] <lyrae> meskarune, what about the packet manager?
[08:52] <lyrae> package
[08:52] <lyrae> not packet
[08:52] <llutz> !ot | please take the distro-discussion out here
[08:52] <meskarune> lyrae: they use pacman. Its command line, but I like it better than other package manager i've ever used
[08:53] <lyrae> meskarune, is it ok to PM you to ask some questions before i try?
[08:53] <Guest6939> how i can to quit the flash in firefox
[08:53] <meskarune> sure
[08:53] <lyrae> like 1 or two questions
[08:53] <Guest6939> or install other navigator
[08:53] <Humbedooh> quit the flash?
[08:53] <Humbedooh> are you having trouble playing flash content?
[08:53] <thechris> So, X11 works, but doesn't start at boot
[08:53] <thechris> what ubuntu magic is used for this
[08:54] <Humbedooh> maybe it's gdm that's not working :>
[08:54] <thechris> for example, instead of X11, I get text that complains about pulse audio, and has some varialbe number of messages
[08:54] <tsaknorris> Humbedooh, well it works "quite well" but not 100% :/ i cannot lock in to my bank account. and the reason is that java :D
[08:54] <tsaknorris> lock in = login
[08:54] <tsaknorris> lol
[08:54] <tsaknorris> my english :D
[08:55] <Humbedooh> tsaknorris, did you try another java distribution?
[08:55] <thechris> hmm, gdm doesn't seem to be installed
[08:55] <thechris> or is under a different name
[08:55] <Humbedooh> iced tea seems to work fine for me at least
[08:55] <auronandace> tsaknorris: you need java to login to your bank account?
[08:55] <tsaknorris> yes i need it
[08:55] <Humbedooh> java is quite common for that
[08:55] <auronandace> tsaknorris: wow, that is bad
[08:55] <tsaknorris> with SUN java it works but not with open java
[08:56] <Guest6939> exit
[08:56] <ben_199> hi.. sorry to come with something this mundane but i can't seem to get my grub fixed to load ubuntu rather than just win7, despite spending a few hrs on forums etc. no luck so far with boot repair or via terminal... anyone who might have an idea?
[08:57] <Humbedooh> surely you mean Oracle Java by now
[08:57] <thechris> ben_199: can you get to a grub prompt, or is it just booting off the wrong drive
[08:57] <Humbedooh> :D
[08:57] <ben_199> thechris: nope its just going straight to windows
[08:57] <Acaldeira> has anyone experienced this problem at some point? Reboot and select proper boot device or insert boot media in selected boot device and press a key
[08:57] <thechris> ben_199: and you only have one hdd
[08:57] <Humbedooh> ben_199, have you tried changing the hidden timeout in grub to a visible timeout?
[08:57] <ben_199> two but both OS on the same
[08:58] <monacelli> did you install grub to your mbr?
[08:58] <tsaknorris> im just now hoping that ubuntu will fix its own java. or i have to change to different distribution (im not going to install windows thats for sure) :D
[08:58] <thechris> ben_199: and you're sure that grub is in the chain, and that windows hasn't overwritten it
[08:58] <Humbedooh> also, did you install windows or ubuntu first? :<
[08:59] <auronandace> tsaknorris: "its own java", oracle doesn't allow java to be packaged for distributions
[08:59] <Humbedooh> tsaknorris, it might be your browser's java plugin and not the java dist itself
[08:59] <thechris> What does 11.10 use to start x.  Something has broken whatever this is.  But startx does still work.
[08:59] <ben_199> windows came second so it probably overwrote it yes... not the first time for me, but i can't get grub installed back via live cd..
[08:59] <Humbedooh> auronandace, Oracle screws up everything they buy
[08:59] <Humbedooh> MySQL didn't exactly improve either :p
[08:59] <tsaknorris> auronandace, i know oracle doesnt want that ubuntu uses SUN java and know we are using openjdk....
[09:00] <tsaknorris> Humbedooh, yes it can be also that
[09:00] <auronandace> tsaknorris: sun java is outdated, it belongs to oracle now, and they never play nice
[09:00] <thechris> ben_199: are you reinstalling grub from the grub console, or some other method?
[09:01] <DaZ> so does virtualbox, and it's still ok :f
[09:01] <tsaknorris> auronandace, yes i know that. im 110% supporting open source (since 2004 i havent touch windows at home) so i really want to find solution :D
[09:01] <auronandace> DaZ: for now...
[09:02] <thechris> Does anyone know how to start gdm
[09:02] <Tech-1> sudo service gdm start
[09:02] <llutz> thechris: 11.10? uses lightdm, not gdm
[09:02] <ben_199> thechris: i tried boot-repair to no avail, tried grub-install from bash but it doesnt find my drive
[09:03] <ssfdre38> when will firefox get upgraded to 9.0.1
[09:04] <Humbedooh> probably after christmas
[09:04] <ssfdre38> well im using from source and its working better then the distro version
[09:05] <thechris> llutz: hmm, service lightdm restart;  -- "unknown instance"
[09:05] <Humbedooh> try without the "re"
[09:06] <thechris> Humbedooh: hmm, that works.  so wtf is wrong with it at boot?!
[09:08] <thechris> ben_199: are you using a command in grub to list the devices?
[09:08] <ztag100> hey, I'm still looking for a good use of the laptop I found in my attic
[09:09] <meskarune> use it as a server
[09:09] <ztag100> I think I want to make it a minecraft server...
[09:09] <Tech-1> flower plant mantel ?
[09:09] <ztag100> Its on XP now...
[09:09] <ztag100> the laptop only has 512GB ram
[09:09] <ubuntuland> Hi to everybody, from yesterday I can't know how removing the upper bar while I watch videos from xbcm, I have too a crash file, could u help?
[09:10] <Stepnjump> I am looking for an app that could take an mp2 file and would convert it to an mp3 file. Any suggestions please?
[09:10] <ztag100> so I need a lightweight distro, that can run off a CD
[09:10] <Humbedooh> 512gb ram o.O
[09:10] <ztag100> I know
[09:10] <ztag100> it'll be good for me and a few frieds
[09:10] <thechris> does lightdm make a log somewhere?
[09:10] <Humbedooh> how do you fit all that into a laptop?
[09:10] <[Sanyi]> o.O :D
[09:10] <auronandace> ztag100: you mean 512mb?
[09:10] <BlauskaerM> Mary Christmas #ubuntu :)
[09:10] <Humbedooh> no no, he has a super computer!
[09:10] <ztag100> lol! whoops!
[09:11] <ztag100> didn't catch that
[09:11] <Humbedooh> Lubuntu runs well on 256MB
[09:11] <ztag100> yes 512MB
[09:11] <meskarune> puppy linux?
[09:11] <meskarune> or damn small linux
[09:11] <[Sanyi]> i have 256MB ram, i use squeeze :P
[09:11] <ztag100> i was thinking bout puppu and DSL
[09:11] <[Sanyi]> custom kernel :P
[09:11] <[Sanyi]> os[Linux 2.6.39.4-home i686] distro[Debian 6.0.3] cpu[1 x Intel(R) Celeron(R) CPU 1.70GHz (GenuineIntel) @ 1.70GHz] mem[Physical: 248.8MB, 54.6% free] disk[Total: 128.0GB, 57.1% free] video[nVidia Corporation NV34 [GeForce FX 5200]] sound[CMI8738-MC6 - C-Media CMI87381: Bt87x - Brooktree Bt878]
[09:11] <[Sanyi]> AHAH :D
[09:12] <ztag100> My plan is to store the files on the laptop harddrive
[09:12] <ubuntuland> how removing upper bar in ubuntu 11.10 or simply hiding????? thanks
[09:12] <Humbedooh> no such thing, ubuntuland!
[09:12] <ztag100> but since I don't really have permision from my dad, I'm gna run it from a CD
[09:12] <ztag100> It's on XP now
[09:12] <Humbedooh> like it or leave it
[09:12] <thechris> sweet, process 978 exited with return value 1
[09:12] <thechris> anyone know how to fix that
[09:12] <thechris> or if its unrelated
[09:13] <Tech-1> put puppy on a thumb drive
[09:13] <ztag100> 512MB is enough for a server for like 5 people right?
[09:13] <Humbedooh> how would we know what process 978 is :<
[09:13] <ubuntuland> humbedooh so may be is a problem of crash of xbmc? I have the log to show eventually
[09:13] <ztag100> tech-1 do u know if it could have persistant storage?
[09:13] <Humbedooh> ztag100, VNC and such?
[09:13] <ztag100> Prob not
[09:13] <Humbedooh> XBMC is always bugged :>
[09:13] <thechris> Humbedooh: clearly everyone must know it if lightdm would write it to a logfile by number and not give a useful name
[09:13] <ztag100> it would be sitting in my room, so I could just do anything from the laptop
[09:14] <Tech-1> xmbc is a big AOL trojan, lol
[09:14] <robin0800> ubuntuland: you can install gnome-panel and log in to gnome classic
[09:14] <Humbedooh> well you could use valgrind to debug the process I guess, thechris :D
[09:14] <insectatorious> ubuntuland: you can get a theme that sets the top bar as transparent
[09:14] <ztag100> but, does VNC really make a difference?
[09:14] <ztag100> I plan on setting it up tomorrow
[09:14] <Humbedooh> well it uses less resources on the laptop ofc
[09:15] <ubuntuland> ok robin and I will hide when I play video on full screen?
[09:15] <Humbedooh> I'm using VNC on my Japanese server right now with xfce
[09:15] <ztag100> What about a CLI distro?
[09:15] <thechris> !fix nvidia
[09:15] <thechris> !ubottu be google
[09:16] <ztag100> u don't need a GUI to run an MC server
[09:16] <ztag100> I should compile a distro!
[09:16] <thechris> what does lightdm think xorg.conf is?
[09:16] <ztag100> don't really want to, just need something that works
[09:16] <robin0800> ubuntuland: if you wish to configure it hold alt and right click
[09:17] <auronandace> !mini | ztag100
[09:17] <Humbedooh> ubuntuland, it shouldn't show at all in fullscreen xbmc
[09:17] <ztag100> I have the Minimal CD burned already, I used it for my netbook
[09:17] <ubuntuland> robin when I do alt righ  nothing happens...
[09:17] <ztag100> but I don't want to format the computer
[09:17] <thechris> it almost seems like the nvidia module isn't loaded until after lightdm attempts to load
[09:18] <ztag100> I just want to run a LiveEnvironment for a MC Server
[09:18] <ben_199> thechris: i realised grub is actually on sda now when it should be on sdb... but i cant get it to install on there.
[09:18] <Humbedooh> so no GUI of sorts?
[09:18] <ztag100> It could have one, but it doesn't NEED one
[09:18] <ubuntuland> http://paste.ubuntu.com/780819/ what's happened then?
[09:18] <ztag100> All I need is the ability to run CraftBukkit
[09:19] <Humbedooh> just install ubu server? :<
[09:19] <thechris> ben_199: you mean to (hd1)?
[09:19] <ztag100> is it possible to install on a CD?
[09:19] <ztag100> the biggest thing is a LiveCD
[09:20] <meskarune> you can run a server off a live cd and not use the hard drive at all if you want
[09:20] <Humbedooh> ubuntuland, seems like ffpmeg threw an error
[09:20] <ztag100> Meskarune That is exactly what I want!
[09:20] <thechris> !xorg.conf
[09:21] <thechris> !find xorg.conf
[09:21] <ztag100> Just a Minecraft server on a CD
[09:21] <ztag100> where can I get this?
[09:21] <amh345> ubuntu is tell me i have updates available. how do i view a list of the updates available?  im in terminal
[09:21] <ubuntuland> ah ok humbedooh. so what should I do? change ffpmeg or  do other
[09:22] <Humbedooh> tried reinstalling xbmx? or maybe try the bleeding edge builds
[09:22] <ztag100> ?
[09:22] <Humbedooh> I get xbmc crashes just about every day myself, so I've just gotten used to it behaving oddly
[09:23] <thechris> does anyone know how to fix lightdm to work with nvidia
[09:23] <thechris> it seems to get snippy when it can't find "nv"
[09:23] <Humbedooh> thechris, have you tried installing different nvidia drivers?
[09:23] <thechris> there is a module "nvidia" that is loaded
[09:23] <ztag100> anyone?
[09:23] <Humbedooh> ztag, minecraft or the live cd?
[09:24] <ztag100> Humbedoh, my plan is to run a minecraft server off of the laptop, I can't format it... and WinXP would be to slow
[09:24] <thechris> I think "nv" is the older open source modules.
[09:24] <Humbedooh> get the live cd from ubuntu.com, plop it on a usb drive
[09:24] <sattu94> Hi, where can I find a step by step guide for building a local(LAN) mail server? All guides on internet assume it's going to send mails over the internet, But I just want local mail sending.
[09:24] <thechris> and ubuntu can't be like any other distro
[09:25] <ztag100> I have an Ubuntu LiveCD burnt, can I just use that?
[09:25] <Humbedooh> sattu, local or global shouldn't matter much
[09:25] <ztag100> with the files stored on the hard drive?
[09:25] <Humbedooh> I'd of course recommend the rumble mail server :D
[09:25] <Stepnjump> I downloaded a tar.gz. I have no idea how to install this app. It has only two directories in it: data and libs. Has no readme. Files are in the type: libavcodec.so.53. What is that?
[09:25] <afidegnum> almoxarife: are you there pls ?
[09:25] <Humbedooh> ztag I don't see why not
[09:25] <ztag100> OK! I'll try it out tomorrow
[09:25] <Stepnjump> Download page is: https://sourceforge.net/projects/transcoderae84/
[09:26] <Humbedooh> stepnjump, that's a library file :>
[09:26] <Humbedooh> so means Shared Object
[09:26] <ztag100> will Ubuntu be a little slow on this machine? that is my main fear
[09:26] <Stepnjump> Humbedooh... what is that? Can it be installed?
[09:26] <ztag100> I love Ubuntu, but it isn't very light
[09:26] <orated> How to have Dynamic DNS?
[09:26] <Humbedooh> Stepnjump, yes you can just copy it to your /usr/lib folder if you like
[09:27] <ztag100> I'll try it out tomorrow
[09:27] <thechris> where is xorg.conf?
[09:27] <Humbedooh> locate xorg.conf
[09:27] <Stepnjump> Humbedooh, how do I execute it?
[09:27] <Humbedooh> or /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[09:27] <Humbedooh> you can't execute a library, stepnjump
[09:27] <Stepnjump> oh it was an app I downloaded
[09:27] <sattu94> Humbedooh: Is it in the repositories ?
[09:28] <ztag100> thanks Humbedooh
[09:28] <afidegnum> pls can someone assist in installing the  package wvstreams
[09:28] <afidegnum> ?
[09:28] <Humbedooh> sattu, nope, but you can find it on uhm...sf.net
[09:28] <Stepnjump> Humbedooh, I have some mp2 files I would like to listen on my ipod but they need to be converted to mp3. Do you know of an app that would do that?
[09:28] <sattu94> Humbedooh: sure will give it a try.
[09:28] <afidegnum> I have a no found pakcage error, pls I need help
[09:28] <Humbedooh> stepnjump, it's not an application, it;s a library for applications
[09:29] <Humbedooh> you should use the software center to download and install music converters
[09:29] <sattu94> Humbedooh: Does it have LDAP auth support?
[09:29] <ztag100> Now, I sleep! I'll come back tomorrow when setting up my server
[09:29] <Stepnjump> Ok I see Humbedooh... I keep looking for an app that will do the conversion and can't find one anywhere... They all support mp3 but not mp2
[09:29] <ztag100> pce!
[09:29] <sattu94> sattu94: OpenLDAP...?
[09:30] <thechris> ah, all unrelated
[09:30] <Humbedooh> nope, not yet
[09:30] <Humbedooh> I planned to get that done in January :p
[09:30] <thechris> !nvidiactl
[09:30] <sattu94> Humbedooh: :( okay, then I guess i'll look elsewhere.
[09:31] <Humbedooh> for ldap, you probably want courier or postfix or such
[09:31] <ben_199> thechris: i guess. grub-install /dev/sdb will not work.
[09:33] <sattu94> Humbedooh: Exactly what i am looking for..
[09:36] <kuuhmu> hi
[09:36] <Black> Hi
[09:36] <kuuhmu> i have a proplem on thunderbird
[09:37] <kuuhmu> who found a bug in thunderbird on ubuntu when i click compose mail...then it close..?
[09:37] <Black> What the problem?
[09:38] <kuuhmu> thunderbird on ubuntu when i click compose mail...then it close..?
[09:38] <Stepnjump> what is the function there to add a line of text to a file in the form : "text to enter in the file" > file.txt
[09:38] <Humbedooh> thunderbird = piece of crap :p
[09:38] <Black> Check your log
[09:38] <Tech-1> lol
[09:38] <kuuhmu> where the log
[09:38] <Tech-1> na, it works pretty good now, version 3.1
[09:38] <Humbedooh> stepnjump, text goes >> here.txt ?
[09:39] <Humbedooh> tech1, it still has compliance bugs with the imap protocols :p
[09:39] <Seveas> Stepnjump, echo "Text goes here" >> file.txt
[09:39] <Stepnjump> Is it that simple Humbedooh? I thought it was harder than that
[09:39] <Seveas> or
[09:39] <Stepnjump> ok thanks
[09:39] <Humbedooh> like expecting an immediate reply after sending append commands
[09:39] <Seveas> echo "Text goes here" | tee -a file.txt
[09:39] <Humbedooh> stepnjjump, > means overwrite file, >> means append to file
[09:39] <Stepnjump> I think I found my mp2 converter. Seems really nice. pacpl
[09:40] <Tech-1> best thing he could do, is go delete profile, and reinstall it and start over
[09:40] <oCean> Stepnjump: echo "my text" > /path/to/myfile will insert my text in the myfile. Use ">>" to *add* text, or do what Seveas said
[09:40] <Stepnjump> in case others are looking for that
[09:40] <amh345> in an ip address 1.2.3.4/20  << what does the /20 mean?  or what's it called so i can google it?
[09:40] <Seveas> amh345, it's called a subnet mask
[09:40] <Stepnjump> oh echo, yes that's it oCean.. Thanks a lot
[09:40] <Humbedooh> it means use the first 20 bytes of the IP for locating it
[09:40] <thechris> amh345: shorthand for the subnet mask
[09:40] <Seveas> it means that in that network the first 20 bits of the ip address are the "network address"
[09:40] <Humbedooh> bits ye
[09:41] <Seveas> amh345, try playing with ipcalc to see what that means
[09:41] <amh345> what would /0 mean than?  0 bits?
[09:41] <amh345> ok
[09:41] <Seveas> just do: ipcalc 1.2.3.4/20
[09:41] <oCean> amh345: to figure out more about netmasks/subnets, there are calculators available: http://jodies.de/ipcalc
[09:41] <Seveas> /0 is nonsense
[09:41] <amh345> im trying to setup some firewall security and the /x threw me for a llo
[09:41] <suicideblonde> org
[09:41] <Humbedooh> inded it is
[09:41] <amh345> loop
[09:41] <Seveas> /32 is host address
[09:41] <Seveas> anything in between (well, /31 is a bit useless too) is a network
[09:41] <Humbedooh> for home stuff, /24 is usually the good one
[09:41] <amh345> thanks guys. ill mess around. and thanks oCean for the link
[09:42] <amh345> Humbedooh: im connecting to a remote server via ssh
[09:42] <Seveas> Humbedooh, or 172.16.0.0/12 :)
[09:42] <Seveas> or 10.0.0.0/8
[09:42] <thechris> does anyone know how to fix the nvidia drivers
[09:43] <Humbedooh> thechris, have you tried building them yourself?
[09:43] <thechris> for some reason, they don't have access to nvidiactl at boot
[09:43] <thechris> Humbedooh: i've tried reinstalling nvidia-current
[09:43] <Humbedooh> try downloading the package from nvidia's website and compile it
[09:44] <thechris> given that X works _after_ boot, but not _during_ boot, i'm thinking there is something wrong with ubuntu's init scripts
[09:45] <Tech-1> Humbedooh:  that today requires blacklisting
[09:45] <Tech-1> pain in the butt anymore
[09:46] <Humbedooh> what?
[09:46] <Tech-1> i would just go nvidia-current in the repos
[09:46] <Humbedooh> isn't there some nvidia-current post-update build or something?
[09:47] <thechris> I'm a bit wary of the newest nvidia modules in 11.10
[09:47] <Tech-1> what about nvidia-xconfig ?
[09:47] <Tech-1> try that ?
[09:47] <thechris> it's really messed up my laptop.
[09:47] <Tech-1> or  open nvidia-settings as root and create a xorg file
[09:48] <Humbedooh> a silly question; did you remember to uninstall nvidia before you reinstalled it? :>
[09:48] <thechris> Humbedooh: i just did apt-get install --reinstall nvidia-current
[09:49] <thechris> If I could figure out how to get uefi bios to actually boot off my usb disk, i'd probably just reinstall ubuntu
[09:50] <Humbedooh> http://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers ?
[09:51] <Tech-1> what card is it
[09:51] <thechris> it is new, gtx560-448
[09:51] <Humbedooh> it's an nvidia card obviously!
[09:51] <Humbedooh> :>
[09:51] <Tech-1> ah
[09:51] <thechris> the annoying thing is that this worked about 2 hours ago
[09:52] <thechris> and it works if I manually start ligthdm/startx
[09:52] <thechris> but at init, for some reason nvidiactl doesn't exist or isn't accessible
[09:52] <Humbedooh> what if you just uninstall the driver, can you get to your desktop then?
[09:52] <thechris> but after init, nvidiactl does exist and has the correct permissions
[09:52] <Tech-1> Yeah
[09:52] <thechris> I can get to my desktop if I type startx
[09:53] <Tech-1> if he holds shift key and safe graphics mode to redo x11
[09:53] <jester-> thebastl: install gem and set it as default
[09:53] <jester-> gdm*
[09:53] <Humbedooh> gnomes are the best
[09:53] <qmVuWEvJZ> alrighty then...
[09:53] <Humbedooh> especially during christmas
[09:54] <qmVuWEvJZ> is there anyboddeh in theeere?
[09:54] <Humbedooh> no, we're all gone
[09:54] <Humbedooh> and you did not see that last message
[09:55] <thechris> maybe it makes more sense to try to get kubunutu working.  I don't really like the new ubuntu, and it certainly hasn't been painless on either computer.  I also don't like gnome.
[09:56] <Humbedooh> but you do like gnomes, right? :>
[09:56] <pbink> where did the compiz settings go in 10.04?  I'm running it at work, and it's under system > preferences, but i can't find it on this box with ati video drivers
[09:56] <amh345> hmm. another quick question.  ssh-add keyxyz add my keypair.   what is the command to remove it?  ssh-remove doesnt work :)
[09:57] <Stepnjump> yep! echo text >> textfile works great thanks
[09:57] <Stepnjump> Tnx oCean
[09:57] <oCean> amh345: I believe it's ssh-add -d, the manualpage explains (man ssh-add)
[09:57] <thechris> Humbedooh: no, I haven't liked gnome since 2.4.  Although I haven't really tried it much after that
[09:57] <llutz> amh345: ssh-add -D
[09:58] <amh345> just found it :)
[09:58] <amh345> thanks again
[09:58] <Humbedooh> but...gnomes!
[09:58] <Humbedooh> fuzzy little creatures
[09:58] <Tech-1> demons
[09:58] <Humbedooh> pfft
[09:58] <Seveas> Tech-1, you rang?
[09:58] <Tech-1> rebuked
[10:00] <thechris> well gdm works.  I guess its sorta like the adult-child-still-at-home though.  compared to lightwm its ugly and looks unmaintained.
[10:01] <pbink> any help in finding where the hell the compiz settings went on this install?  they've always been in system > preferences, but not this time on an ATI card
[10:01] <thechris> and in classic linux form, I turned my computer on for some reason, fought with the OS for hours, and then got it working only to realize that I'd forgotten what I turned the computer on for in the first place.
[10:01] <Tech-1> pbink:  you prolly have to install them
[10:02] <thechris> "friday"
[10:02] <Tech-1> pbink:  sys/admin/synaptic/
[10:02] <pbink> Tech-1:  wobbly windows is in full effect, so i know they're there already though
[10:02] <Tech-1> ya, it has effects, but the settings mangr prolly isnt installed, did you check tools or admin ?
[10:02] <Seveas> pbink, install compizconfig-settings-manager and run ccsm
[10:03] <zxy_64> hi, i installed ubuntu on one box and after move to the old CRT monitor i only get 640x480 resolution. Using nvidia drivers 173. Do i need to set modelines in xorg.conf? everything worked on a new LCD monitor before. Currently i http://paste.lugons.org/show/PGXk3lncL2Iv3BAXmpIK/ this xorg.conf. Any suggestions?
[10:03] <pbink> Seveas, ty
[10:04] <DeltaEpsilon> netbeans on ubuntu is pain in the ass
[10:04] <Seveas> s/on ubuntu //
[10:06] <DeltaEpsilon> Seveas, does openJDK have hardware acceleration for the UI?
[10:07] <DeltaEpsilon> it seems the interface of Netbeans is slower on Ubuntu compared to netbeans on windows
[10:08] <Humbedooh> when is netbeans ever fast :D
[10:08] <Seveas> DeltaEpsilon, no clue. I tend to avoid java development as much as possible
[10:09] <DeltaEpsilon> Humbedooh, the interface is very responsive on windows
[10:09] <DeltaEpsilon> it is much less on Ubuntu :-(
[10:09] <Seveas> fortunately I only need to use perl, python and ruby at work :)
[10:10] <erik1397> resume from suspend gives black screen, hard reboot is only solution. any thoughts?
[10:10] <ashickur-noor> Hi
[10:10] <DeltaEpsilon> how do I select which verison of java I want to use?
[10:11] <DeltaEpsilon> I have several installed
[10:11] <DeltaEpsilon> !java
[10:12] <aguitel> Seveas, remember my issue ? my system freeze when become inactive ,i fix it installing old kernel
[10:12] <Seveas> aguitel, good to see that solves it. Please do file a bug though with as many details about your hardware as you can give
[10:12] <oCean> DeltaEpsilon: you use  sudo update-alternatives --config java
[10:14] <DeltaEpsilon> damnit, time goes too fast
[10:14] <DeltaEpsilon> :-(
[10:16] <_Stealth> exit
[10:16] <_Stealth> quit
[10:16] <com64> you mean /part?
[10:16] <ben_199> grub still wont install to a particular drive, whatever i try... anything i am missing?
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[10:17] <QcPUZmiWz> ///
[10:18] <oCean> QcPUZmiWz: do you have an ubuntu support question?
[10:19] <erik1397> resume from suspend gives black screen, hard reboot is only solution.  any thoughts?
[10:22] <AIhnVFmRc> adfg
[10:22] <oCean> AIhnVFmRc: please stop that
[10:24] <jack_> hola
[10:27] <quiel> what's you guy's favorite tiling wm? would one be viable on my small netbook screen (11")?
[10:27] <mike-w> hi folks
[10:28] <mike-w> i cannot decide whether use kde or gnome
[10:28] <freko28> hi all
[10:28] <oCean> mike-w: try them both?
[10:28] <mike-w> oCean, i've tried
[10:28] <quiel> mike-w, do you want high customization and overwhelming number of options? try kde
[10:29] <mike-w> oCean, i used gnome months ago,and now i am using kde
[10:29]  * quiel is huge kde fanboi
[10:29] <oCean> mike-w: Since choosing a desktop environment is mostly matter of personal taste, this channel is not really for people's opinions.
[10:30] <quiel> anyone using a tiling WM on a netbook? how is it working with the small screen?
[10:30] <mike-w> oCean, oh,isee
[10:30] <oCean> mike-w: that's why I suggest to try and find out
[10:30] <mike-w> oCean, but in fact i prefer gnome2
[10:31] <mike-w> oCean, but in ubuntu11, it is gnom3 :(
[10:31] <freko28> I use a VPN client on my computer and I want lauch the 2 time the same app (firefox) but the since with tun0 (the VPN) with eth0. Is it possible?
[10:31] <oCean> mike-w: yes, gnome2 is dead
[10:32] <soreau> there is a fork of gnome2 I heard
[10:32] <mike-w> oCean, gnome3 is not so convenient, i have to click,click and click :(
[10:32] <soreau> mate-desktop
[10:33] <oCean> mike-w: that's nothing this channel can do about
[10:34] <mike-w> oCean, maybe i'll try xfce someday
[10:34] <mike-w> bye
[10:35] <freko28> I use a VPN client on my computer and I want to run 2 times the same program (firefox) but the first process use tun0 (the VPN) and the second use eth0 . Is it possible and how can I do please?
[10:36] <Stepnjump> Hi guys, I'm trying to add an app to my startup applications but I have no idea how to invoke this app from terminal
[10:36] <Stepnjump> Is there a quick way to find an app's name in terminal?
[10:38] <freko28> Stepnjump, use "sudo aptitude search " lol
[10:42] <Stepnjump> thank you freko28
[10:53] <jjeronimo> doesnt the bash command supposed to move files ?
[10:53] <jjeronimo> the command mv
[10:53] <Skorg> ubuntu wifi
[10:53] <jjeronimo> copy and delete the source
[10:54] <jjeronimo> mv * /var/shared/Video/
[11:03] <DeltaEpsilon> Firefox to manage a new way to manage tabs :\
[11:03] <DeltaEpsilon> it is pain in the ass to browse through 40+ tabs in firefox
[11:03] <DeltaEpsilon> Firefox needs a way to manage tabs.
[11:04] <oCean> That's not someting for this channel then, DeltaEpsilon
[11:09] <dr_willis> ive seen ff tab manager enhanceer plugins at the ff extension/plugin pages
[11:10] <airtonix> jjeronimo: what's the problem?
[11:11] <jjeronimo> trying to move files from my encrypted home dir to /var/shared
[11:12] <jjeronimo> I don't have enough space to just copy it
[11:12] <jjeronimo> and then delete it
[11:12] <jjeronimo> I have to move it
[11:12] <dr_willis> the mv command moves, move them in batches perhaps?
[11:13] <dr_willis> or use 'mc' if you have to use teh console. Its a handy file manager for the console
[11:14] <jjeronimo> ok thx
[11:16] <Black> Dr_willis, is it normal,console kit daemon spawn a lot of threads,about 64 threads?
[11:18] <dr_willis> Black:  ive seen that mentionee befor. I think its a normal range. but not sure why its doing it.
[11:18] <dr_willis> http://askubuntu.com/questions/2700/60-processes-of-console-kit-daemon-why
[11:19] <dr_willis> They're not processes, they're threads under one process.
[11:19] <dr_willis> so it seems 'normal' from that url.
[11:23] <SlyUk> i just tried ouit mc, looks pretty cool. Cheers
[11:26] <dr_willis> mc a handy must have/knoe about tool.
[11:30] <rymate> hai
[11:30] <airtonix> jjeronimo: and no. the mv command is supposed to copy then move. moving without failsafe for interupted transfers is asking for trouble.
[11:30] <airtonix> copy then delete*
[11:31] <rymate> my trackpad is broke with ubuntu
[11:32] <rymate> my mouse still work though
[11:34] <katuelman> hola !
[11:36] <katuelman> estoy empezando en el mundo del linux con ubuntu mediante virtualizacion , sabeis de alguna guia o manual que me ayude paso a paso en esto del linux ? para aprender desde novato yo solo... Gracias
[11:38] <almoxarife> !es
[11:39] <katuelman> Thanks !!
[11:39] <rymate> hola!
[11:40] <almoxarife> hola
[11:40] <rymate> me ni speake espanol
[11:40] <rymate> lol
[11:40] <almoxarife> !spanglish
[11:42] <Tech-1> no caca
[11:44] <afidegnum> hello,pls how do I install this package. http://packages.ubuntu.com/source/oneiric/wvstreams
[11:44] <afidegnum> ?
[11:44] <afidegnum> can someone pls sssist ?
[11:45] <almoxarife> afidegnum: are you compiling?
[11:45] <afidegnum> euh, yea, I think I have to compiile
[11:45] <afidegnum> cos using apt-get seems not working
[11:46] <oCean> afidegnum: wvstreams is a source package to build others like libwvstreams-dev. Use  sudo apt-get install libwvstreams-dev  to install the -dev package for example
[11:47] <xukun> hi all
[11:47] <almoxarife> afidegnum: what made you decide you needed that file? to accomplish what?
[11:47] <Black> Hi
[11:48] <xukun> I just installed ubuntu on raid 0 with lvm but grub does not boot. I now booted live usb. I need  a way to chroot so I can fix things but I get this message:  mount /dev/mapper/VG-root /mnt/ubuntu/
[11:48] <xukun> mount: you must specify the filesystem type
[11:50] <afidegnum> oCean: I have already installed libwvstreams-dev
[11:50] <xukun> any idea?
[11:50] <oCean> afidegnum: and?
[11:50] <afidegnum> almoxarife: I am installging this file to activate my 3g wireless modul
[11:50] <almoxarife> afidegnum: ok
[11:51] <oCean> afidegnum: wvstreams is for application development.
[11:51] <afidegnum> yes, I know b
[11:52] <afidegnum> but it was part of the requirement needed to set up the interface of my 3g modem
[11:52] <almoxarife> afidegnum: specifically what 3g wireless
[11:52] <oCean> afidegnum: better describe your real issue, detailed in single line. And see if someone knows how to enable your modem.
[11:52] <afidegnum> here is the documentation I am following http://citycellmodemtroubleshoot.blogspot.com/2011/01/installation-of-ec167-modem-in-ubuntu.html
[11:53] <dr_willis> !find wvstreams
[11:53] <dr_willis> install them all. :)
[11:53] <afidegnum> dr_willis: you mean to installed those posted packages?
[11:54] <dr_willis> sure why not. :)
[11:54] <xukun> I just installed ubuntu on raid 0 with lvm but grub does not boot. I now booted live usb. I need  a way to chroot so I can fix things but I get this message:  mount /dev/mapper/VG-root /mnt/ubuntu/
[11:54] <xukun> mount: you must specify the filesystem type
[11:54] <dr_willis> i doubt if you need the -doc
[11:54] <dr_willis> xukun:  mount -t FILESYSTEMTYPE
[11:55] <dr_willis> which is ext4 normally? not sure why its not auto detecting  it  - inless its confused by the /dev/ device.
[11:55] <xukun> dr_willis, like mount -t xfs /dev/mapper/VG-root /mnt/ubuntu/ ?
[11:58] <xukun> dr_willis, ?
[12:02] <xukun> dr_willis, mount -t xfs /dev/mapper/VG-root /mnt/ubuntu  it says: mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/mapper/VG-root,
[12:02] <almoxarife> afidegnum: I did not see where the file you are fixating on is used in the setup process, did you try the process by step already  without the wvstreams?
[12:05] <xukun> hmm dmesg gives me this error: XFS (dm-0): bad magic number
[12:05] <xukun> seems horrible
[12:09] <afidegnum> almoxarife: yes
[12:09] <afidegnum> despite all procedures nothing changed,
[12:10] <almoxarife> afidegnum: ok, understood
[12:10] <afidegnum> almoxarife: even running dpkg -s wvstreams
[12:10] <afidegnum> does not work
[12:12] <almoxarife> afidegnum: have you had any luck since installing the packages as per dr_willis instructions?
[12:12] <afidegnum> the suggested packages by dr_willis were long installed alread
[12:12] <afidegnum> y
[12:15] <hololight> my mouse keeps freezing every 1-5 seconds for anywhere from 3 to 10 seconds.... does this for a while (say 5 minutes)... then wont do it for a while.... When it does happen, keyboard is still responsive. this is not a new installation and I haven't had this problem before maybe 2 days ago. Thoughts?
[12:16] <almoxarife> hololight: wireless mouse?
[12:17] <Sidewinder1> hololight, Sounds like a problem with the mouse itself; good thinh they're inexpensive.
[12:17] <almoxarife> afidegnum: where does your results differ from the instructions?
[12:17] <Sidewinder1> thing, even,
[12:18] <hololight> usb wired... unfortantly... not a cheapy... but that is what it will have to be replaced with
[12:19] <hololight> i dont know though.... I am starting to have more and more problems with this desktop, and I am thinking the motherboard is on its last legs... sucks too, cause when I built it, it was a beast.
[12:19] <almoxarife> hololight: look at your logs for strange happenings
[12:20] <Bartzy> Is there a way to create a tmpfs/ramfs mount, that when empty, will overwrite the oldest file(s) ?
[12:20] <hololight> yeah... just opened a terminal to start doing that when I saw activity here..
[12:21] <m477> do you know if is it possible to write in OpenOffice text in style like in publications etc.?
[12:22] <m477> im asking about template
[12:22] <hololight> m477: Not quite sure what you mean
[12:22] <DarkXPhenomenon> like word-art you mean?
[12:23] <m477> not really
[12:23] <m477> i will give you some example if i find
[12:23] <hololight> almoxarife: well lookie that.... there are constant usb disconnect messages.....
[12:25] <hololight> Guess I'll just start with the mouse and hope that's it. Can't really afford a new mobo at the moment.
[12:25] <m477> hololight: im asking about that style http://wnko.pl/i/zrzutebfb.png
[12:25] <m477> if I have to do it on my own?
[12:25] <m477> like titles, page numeration etc
[12:26] <SunTsu> hololight: maybe you mouse is having issues with you usb version, doing speed negotiation, it's not all that uncommon
[12:26] <SunTsu> "your" even
[12:27] <llutz> m477: http://templates.services.openoffice.org
[12:27] <strk> sudo apt-cache search christmas
[12:27] <strk> [sudo] password for strk:
[12:27] <strk> Segmentation fault
[12:27] <[Sanyi]> segfault ahah
[12:27] <[Sanyi]> :D
[12:27] <strk> incredible, isn't it ? :)
[12:27] <[Sanyi]> strk, the apt-cache search command works without the sudo
[12:27] <[Sanyi]> :)
[12:28] <m477> llutz: and how i will find it ^_^
[12:28] <strk> apt-get update fixes it
[12:28] <ssokolow> How do I override Depends so I don't have to keep manually removing pulseaudio after installing PPA packages which overestimate its importance?
[12:28] <m477> or anything similar to it
[12:28] <strk> [Sanyi]: wasn't sudo segfaulting, but apt-cache
[12:28] <llutz> m477: try searching, like http://templates.services.openoffice.org/en/node/4755
[12:28] <hololight> SunTsu: maybe.... but this is not a new configuration and I have not had this issue with this computer before
[12:28] <[Sanyi]> ahhahah
[12:28] <[Sanyi]> strk
[12:28] <[Sanyi]> dpkg-reconfigure apt
[12:28] <[Sanyi]> :)
[12:29] <strk> apt-get update fixed it
[12:29] <llutz> m477: once you've found something similar, you customize it
[12:29] <[Sanyi]> ok
[12:29] <[Sanyi]> :P
[12:29] <strk> found xsnow, installin :)
[12:29] <[Sanyi]> AHHAHAH
[12:29] <[Sanyi]> :D
[12:29] <SunTsu> hololight: did you update something, maybe new kernel with new usb drivers?
[12:29] <hololight> m477: I was about to suggest the same thing... also my quick research seems to show that you can import 'older' microsoft word templates
[12:29] <llutz> m477: more help in #Openoffice.org
[12:29] <m477> llutz: there is just 3 pages
[12:29] <hololight> m477: But of course you can make your own templates (But I am guessing that is what you are trying to avoid)
[12:30] <m477> hololight: indeed
[12:30] <Hero> NAMES
[12:30] <Hero> Woops
[12:30] <hololight> m477: do you mean 3 pages of templates??
[12:30] <Penpaper> what is the estimate of linux users world wide?
[12:30] <m477> hololight: im looking for something widely use
[12:31] <m477> hololight: yes
[12:31] <m477> hololight: in that link it was
[12:31] <ssokolow> Never mind. Found the equivalent to Gentoo's "package.provided".
[12:31]  * ssokolow goes to apt-get equivs and build fake pulseaudio packages.
[12:31] <oCean> Penpaper: that has nothing todo with the #ubuntu topic here. Maybe try #ubuntu-offtopic or ##linux channel
[12:32] <hololight> SunTsu: I did do security updates (All I do anymore, now that this is a dev machine) a few days ago....
[12:32] <m477> hololight: or I wonder is there is any tool which is widely use to write publication, master's thesis and so on
[12:32] <m477> if*
[12:32] <hololight> SunTsu: Any way to pull up a history of updates?
[12:33] <m477> but i dont want to write in pure latex
[12:33] <llutz> m477: there is, its called TeX
[12:33] <oCean> hololight: /ar/apt/log/history.log
[12:33] <oCean> hololight: /var/log* that is
[12:34] <m477> llutz: learning that probably will take more time then writing that i want to
[12:34] <aldus_> i am trying Kino (video editing software). When I try to play the imported video it just goes to the last frame... any guess why?
[12:34] <m477> :<
[12:34] <llutz> m477: but once learned it, you'll never want to use something like word/openoffice/libreoffice again
[12:35] <m477> llutz: i doubt cause it is one time thing to do
[12:35] <hololight> m477: I found many pages of templates on the template site.... but it will definatly require a little time for you to go through them.... might not even have something that will work for you
[12:36] <m477> hololight: are you talking about OO templates?
[12:37] <hololight> m477: yeah
[12:38] <llutz> m477: btw according the example template i  showed you: ever heard about copying a page? Do you really think, they will create a book-template covering 800 blank pages?
[12:39] <m477> llutz: I see what you mean
[12:39] <hololight> SunTsu: well, all I can see is an incremental kernel update and acpid (I could see that), during the window I am concerned with
[12:42] <hololight> duh..... (I am blaming it on the 3 hours of sleep...) has to be the mouse.... its the only usb device that keeps getting reset....
[12:42] <m477> llutz: maybe now Iam abit over sensitived  but this example didnt look like 'professional' template
[12:43] <llutz> m477: it was an example, there are more templates. you easily can customize them... did you ever tried to manage things on your own?
[12:43] <anAngel> Hello, any way to loop/refresh/update the content of certain fail in /proc folder in the terminal? Something similar to tail but for overridden content not appended.
[12:44] <m477> llutz: no
[12:44] <m477> llutz: i dont like cope with OO
[12:44] <Sidewinder1> hololight, You might also try swapping usb devices into different ports.
[12:44] <hololight> m477: I agree with you on that specific template.. (just went back and looked)
[12:45] <hololight> Sidewinder1: first step before I got on irc
[12:45] <Sidewinder1> "D
[12:45] <m477> hololight: i will try to find something useful, thanks for advices :)
[12:47] <sweb> how can i find any file exclude jpg files with ls or ll ?
[12:47] <hololight> m477: sorry I couldn't be more helpful... is MS word an option for you? does it have the templates you need?
[12:48] <warddr> sweb you can use grep, but I have to look up the command
[12:48] <_2easy> hi, everyone. i have a problem with my linux installation on usb stick.  When I'm copying files to usb stick, let's say from mounted partition to my  home folder on usb stick, the system stops responding. Am I wrong that the  system should be loaded to memory while booting? What the system need from  the usb stick when I just want to start the terminal emulator?
[12:48] <sweb> warddr how can exluce .jpg files ?
[12:48] <sweb> exclude*
[12:48] <oCean> sweb: ls -al | grep -v jpg  is that what you're looking for?
[12:49] <m477> hololight: I dont know I havent used windows for ages
[12:49] <llutz> find path/ -type f -not -iname '*.jpg'
[12:49] <llutz> sweb: ^
[12:50] <hacked_kernel> can anyone send me that folder please "/usr/share/unity"
[12:53] <afidegnum> hello, any answer so far?
[12:54] <SunTsu> afidegnum: answer to what?
[12:56] <hololight> m477: I was never able to get my wife to give up windows, so there are still a machine or two around here with some version... And I dont delude myself.... OO is getting much better, but for a very long time, MS Office had many more features that 'those' kind of people need
[12:57] <antonio_> hello, I cant boot-up because of this error: /sbin/init error while loading shared libraries: librt.so.1: cannot open shared object file: Input/output error
[12:58] <hololight> Hey, look at that.... mouse not getting reset anymore.... at least not yet....
[12:59] <hacked_kernel> can anyone send me that dir please "/usr/share/unity"
[13:00] <hololight> darn... spoke too soon... got to be the mouse now (rolled back acpid and booted from previous kernel)
[13:01] <hololight> antonio_: anything in dmesg?
[13:01] <antonio_> cant even boot, the error occurs just after the grub
[13:02] <hololight> smells like a drive error to me... but then again I am working on 3 hours sleep.... take what I say with a grain of salt
[13:02] <frol> hi
[13:02] <frol> can someone tell me if there is a problem with sources depots or if i'm the only one to have a lot of 404 errors when trying to update
[13:03] <frol> (sudo apt-get update)
[13:03] <hololight> I would boot from cd and check the drive
[13:03] <antonio_> i dont think it's the drive because Win7 bot normally. Maybe a broken sym link?
[13:03] <hololight> maybe
[13:03] <hololight> but it could even be something as simple as corruption (somehow), and not a physical problem
[13:04] <hololight> that i/o error is what is weird to me
[13:04] <antonio_> how can I check it?
[13:04] <BluesKaj_> Hey All , Merry Christmas! :)
[13:05] <Hoyt> hi , is there any laptop pre-installed Linux rather than a windows system ?
[13:06] <bastidrazor> Hoyt: look at system76.com, i think .com
[13:06] <hololight> antonio_: boot from cd, install 'disk utility' (it may be preinstalled, can't remember)
[13:06] <warddr> Hoyt, there are a few shops where they sell laptops without OS / with linux, where do you live?
[13:06] <BluesKaj_> Hoyt, Dell might have some
[13:06] <hololight> Hoyt: also Dell sells some (or at least they did for a while
[13:07] <Sidewinder1> BluesKaj_, Same to 'ya!
[13:07] <warddr> and if you live in Europe you can ask the money for windows back if you don't accept the EULA
[13:08] <Hoyt> i have a MSDNAA account , so buying a computer with Windows is wasting money to me ;-P
[13:08] <Hoyt> i'll checkout Dell and system76.com , thanks guys
[13:09] <BluesKaj_> Hoyt, http://www.ubuntu.com/certification/make/Dell/laptops
[13:10] <BluesKaj_> Hoyt, mostlt 32 bit tho
[13:12] <Hoyt> warddr: now i'm in China on business for the whole year
[13:12] <warddr> Hoyt, I don't know any business down there
[13:12] <Hoyt> warddr: it doesn't matter
[13:12] <warddr> But sincs most notebooks are made in that area you may find one at a good price
[13:15] <mazda01> morning. Merry Xmas Eve to all who celebrate
[13:15] <mazda01> anyone know of an easy quick e-greeting card creator
[13:15] <mazda01> im googling now
[13:15] <mazda01> Ubuntu 10.04.3
[13:16] <mazda01> free, FOSS
[13:16] <Gentoo64> maybe theres some web ones
[13:22] <Black> Mazda01, night on my place
[13:23] <mcbaine1> Hi there, I'm looking at developing alinux driver for a dymo printer that does not have a linux driver  = Where should I begin    ....?
[13:25] <Black> Mcbaine1 there are docs for linux kernel module programming guide.you can google it
[13:25] <mcbaine1> googling....
[13:25] <mazda01> Black, lol, k
[13:25] <mazda01> Black, so it's christmas eve?
[13:26] <mazda01> Black, eve, eve, night time?
[13:26] <mcbaine1> mazda01:: i know not of such a sw ... soz ..
[13:26] <Black> Merry christ guys
[13:26] <bazhang> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1894140 mazda01
[13:26] <mazda01> anyone point me to a FOSS ubuntu 10.04.3 e-greeting creator would be awesome. needs to be copyright free, it's going o jyoutube
[13:26] <bazhang> lets get back on topic please
[13:26] <mazda01> anyone who doesn't celebrate christmas, no offense intended
[13:27] <mcbaine1> Black::: would i be changing the linux kernal  or creating a linux driver   ... or is the same thing ??
[13:27] <mazda01> sorry
[13:27] <goo_> p
[13:27] <bazhang> mazda01, check the link, it gives info and openoffice templates as well
[13:27] <mcbaine1> **.. or is that the same thing ??
[13:28] <BluesKaj_> mazda01, don't worry about it , why should anyone be offended , if they are then too bad ..this political correctness has gone too far IMO
[13:29] <Sidewinder1> +1
[13:30] <Black> Mcbaine..
[13:30] <Black> What the differences?
[13:30] <Black> What the differences?
[13:30] <Black> If you make kernel driver for your device,you work on kernel programming
[13:30] <FloodBot1> Black: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:30] <mcbaine1> ok scanning internet for ebook... using manning & o'reilley etc..
[13:31] <jmscomtech> um how do i view hidden folders in 11.10?
[13:31] <bastidrazor> jmscomtech: ls -a or contrl + h in nautilus
[13:32] <Black> Jmscomtech,ctrl+h on your nautilus
[13:32] <jmscomtech> is that the file managers name
[13:32] <no_gravity> In Ubunut 11, when I open a folder, I dont have a dropdown for "list view, icon view" etc anymore. How can I change it?
[13:32] <jmscomtech> kewl thanx
[13:33] <mcbaine1> dloading "Linux kernel in a nutshell.pdf "  on TPB ... only seems to be ONE option ?!?
[13:33] <bastidrazor> no_gravity: they show as shortcuts of ctrl 1, 2, 3.. try one?
[13:33] <bazhang> !piracy > mcbaine1
[13:35] <warddr> mcbaine1, that book can be downloaded free and legal here:  http://www.kroah.com/lkn/
[13:35] <mcbaine1> ubottu::: R there any gnu doc.s alternative that you are Aware of ???
[13:35] <no_gravity> bastidrazor: that works, but i would prefer not to learn 11s shortcuts. because i only use 11 on my test machine and i dont think i will use it on my other machines. is there a way to bring back the menu?
[13:36] <mcbaine1> ubottu::  respect is earned not subjegated.
[13:37] <mcbaine1> warddr::: opening...
[13:37] <Daekdroom> mcbaine1, you do realize ubottu is a bot, right?
[13:37] <bastidrazor> no_gravity:  no idea how you lost them or to get them back.
[13:37] <mazda01> bazhang, thanks!
[13:38] <lovesnow> :'(
[13:38] <mazda01> BluesKaj_, i agree but I want to remain in here. i love ubuntu and IRC
[13:38] <mazda01> :-)
[13:38] <no_gravity> bastidrazor: oh, i thought its standard on ubunt 11 that the menu is gone. interesting.
[13:38] <jmscomtech> if i use git does that install the program?
[13:38] <no_gravity> so many things are changed or gone in ubuntu 11. i wonder how one is supposed to live without the task bar for example.
[13:39] <mcbaine1> warddr:::: should i dload one chpter at a time or the larball (http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/people/gregkh/lkn/lkn_pdf.tar.bz2) ???
[13:39] <jmscomtech> itll take a bit geting used to the unity interface
[13:39] <bastidrazor> no_gravity: the taskbar is still there. move your mouse to the top of the screen. it is now incorporated into the top panel.
[13:39] <mcbaine1> **tarbal...
[13:40] <irhass> hi,there
[13:40] <no_gravity> bastidrazor: funny! i dont get the taskbar on the top of the screen, but the missing nautilus menu!
[13:40] <Chotaz> I have google chrome as my default webbrowser, yet when i open links on other apps, firefox always pops up, how can I solve this?
[13:40] <slakcphil> Happy Holidays!
[13:41] <irhass> i've been losing my workspace,now i just have one workspace
[13:41] <slakcphil> can't believe it's xmas eve and its going to be like 70's all week
[13:43] <irhass> anyone can help Me???
[13:43] <slakcphil> irhass like the ones inthe lower rught hand corner(default)
[13:43] <irhass> i need ur help,guys
[13:43] <nbubuntu> hi , I need help , how do I list out the update Manager on ubuntu 10.10 to a text file output ?
[13:43] <slakcphil> right click go to preferences and then select 4 workkspaces
[13:43] <mang0> I'm guessing it's possible to write to write my own command? For example, I want to set it up so I can type "update programx" in terminal and it runs a whole series of commands; i.e cd in to a dir, svn up, cd back into another dir, then svn up again, and then cd again, then make and make install...you get the idea. Is this possible? And if so, could someone give me a hand setting it up? Thanks :)
[13:43] <irhass> yeah, now the expo effect is worthless
[13:44] <BluesKaj_> mazda01, nobody is going to ban you foe wishing ppl a good cheer message :)
[13:44] <slakcphil> irhass can you add an applet
[13:44] <no_gravity> so where is the task bar in ubuntu 11?
[13:44] <slakcphil> with right click toolbar and select add to panel then select the workspace switcher thing
[13:44] <bastidrazor> mang0: ask in #bash about scripting.
[13:45] <mang0> bastidrazor: Uh, okay, thanks :)
[13:45] <mcbaine1> realises that 'dreivers' are called device drivers on pg27 in fact.... opening...
[13:45] <irhass> when i add the workspace applet ,but thre is no effect
[13:45] <irhass> im sorry for my typoo ,im new in IRC ,help to learn the IRC
[13:46] <slakcphil> mang0 so make a file starting with #!/bin/bash and then put you commands in there, chmod +x it and your done
[13:46] <mcbaine1> irhass:: use google translate if possible plz.
[13:46] <slakcphil> irhass you are running like compiz or one of those?
[13:46] <irhass> yes,i use the compiz
[13:46] <nbubuntu> anyone ? how to do I output updates into a text files to view ? (System>Adminstration>Update Manager) ?
[13:46] <mang0> slakcphil: Oh wow, really?! Awesome! But then I presume I have to do ./file? Can I set it up so there is a command in terminal?
[13:47] <contemax> !lista
[13:47] <nbubuntu> I just wanted to list them all out
[13:47] <slakcphil> mang0 you could add the alias in .profile
[13:47] <no_gravity> mang0: simply put all your commands in a textfile, give the textfile execution permission with chmod +x and call it.
[13:47] <nbubuntu> Using command line ?
[13:47] <irhass> mcbainel,=> i think google translate is not perfect translator
[13:47] <mang0> slakcphil: I'll take a look thanks.
[13:47] <slakcphil> mang0 or ln it to /usr/bin or /home/user/bin
[13:47] <Sidewinder1> mang0, For a rather in depth "how-to", please see here: http://tldp.org/LDP/abs/html/why-shell.html
[13:48] <bastidrazor> nbubuntu: use apt-get instead of update manager.. sudo apt-get upgrade
[13:48] <mang0> no_gravity: Would the commands have to be on seperate lines, or could I use sudo example; make; make install; cd .././ for example?
[13:48] <mang0> Sidewinder1: Thanks :)
[13:49] <slakcphil> mang0 no they can be seperated by the ;
[13:49] <Sidewinder1> mang0, And for compiling,.. :https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware
[13:49] <asrockubuntu> Hi Ubuntu world, I was very happy for XBCM but now if I log on from it I watch videos with an under bar when I am in full screen or if I log in from gnome than I go in xbcm I have the upper bar, what I can do to solvethis problem?
[13:49] <slakcphil> it would be ugly though :)
[13:49] <mang0> Sidewinder1: I'm good at compliling ;)
[13:49] <mang0> Sidewinder1: Thanks though :)
[13:49] <nbubuntu> bastidrazor : sorry , my question is , I wanted to list all the updates and output into a text file .The list of files lib updates into a text file so I can check which one to updates
[13:49] <mang0> slakcphil: K, thankyou
[13:49] <nbubuntu> bastidrazor : using command line ?
[13:49] <nbubuntu> bastidrazor : really thanks for the help :)
[13:49] <no_gravity> mang0: you can use newlines or ; signs to seperate commands
[13:49] <bastidrazor> mang0: check-install is a bit friendlier than make install
[13:50] <bastidrazor> ubottu: tell mang0 about check-install
[13:50] <magesing> Hi everyone, I'm currently running Debian 6.0.3, and I would like to install Ubuntu while maintaining my current users, mounts, and samba configuration (I have / and /home mounted on different partitions) Is there an easy way to do this?
[13:50] <mcbaine1> irhass:: It is for the likes of this #chl   ... or use "openteacher"  for your studies...
[13:50] <mang0> bastidrazor: I know, I know, it was just an example I thought I thought of
[13:50] <bastidrazor> hmm..
[13:50] <wurschti> hi. I'm trying to connect a second monitor to my notebook (via VGA), but it doesn't get recognized. I'm running ubuntu 11.10 and have already installed the current nvidia driver. any suggestions?
[13:50] <Sidewinder1> mang0, My pleasure. :D
[13:50] <mang0> no_gravity: Cool, ty.
[13:50] <slakcphil> magesing, i have a good idea of the answer you will get here...
[13:50] <mang0> Sidewinder1 :D
[13:50] <bastidrazor> ubottu: tell mang0 about checkinstall
[13:51] <mang0> :)
[13:51] <nbubuntu> bastidrazor : any help ?
[13:51] <mang0> no_gravity: One more thing, does it have to be a .sh or can it just be the defult save format of gedit?
[13:52] <bastidrazor> nbubuntu: apt-get upgrade will list the available updates on the screen.
[13:52] <no_gravity> mang0: you can name it whatever you want. but i would name it .sh so you know what it is. gedit has a default save format?
[13:52] <slakcphil> will installing chkconfig in ubuntu or ubuntu-srv work the way it does in redhat? i know that its not the bunter way and all but i like it
[13:53] <mang0> no_gravity: Well I presume it has to save as _something_ because it opens in other programs. I don't know waht it is though :P
[13:54] <no_gravity> mang0: i dont understand what you mean. i would think you save with ":w myfunnyfilename" in gedit, so it saves under "myfunnyfilename" or whatever name you wish.
[13:54] <nbubuntu> bastidrazor : but I wanted the list of avaliable updates print or save in a text
[13:55] <mang0> no_gravity: I mean, when you save a file from gedit, it doesn't have an extension right? But it must be something because you can open it again....
[13:55] <bastidrazor> nbubuntu: copy paste them to a file
[13:56] <no_gravity> mang0: from a technical perspective, there is no such thing as an "extension". if you want the filename to be "hello.sh" you just type ":w hello.sh"
[13:57] <nbubuntu> bastidrazor : how  ?
[13:57] <sedeki> When I put in my headphones, the speakers dont mute. How can I fix this?
[13:58] <magesing> if I am running debian, can I change my sources.lst to the ubuntu repos and dist-upgrade to switch over?
[13:58] <mang0> no_gravity: Sure, fair enough :)
[13:58] <bastidrazor> magesing: yeah, if you want to trash your os and become broken.
[13:59] <bastidrazor> nbubuntu: whats the reason you want to view the available updates in a file?
[14:00] <nbubuntu> bastidrazor : hope you understand my question , going to (System>Adminstration>Update Manager) , check them and will list all of the available. But I dont wanted to update it , I wanted to print all the updates output into a text file.Which let me to read them.
[14:01] <bastidrazor> nbubuntu: you mean the descriptions of each package?
[14:02] <nbubuntu> bastidrazor : Just an output print updates via command line . The reason is simple , there are 100 hundred of updates which really trouble some to check all.
[14:02] <nbubuntu> bastidrazor : files lib updates + description if possible
[14:04] <erik1397> i get a black screen on resume after suspend. intel hd 3000 graphics, have tried all generic kernels available with same result
[14:06] <bastidrazor> nbubuntu: i don't know how to do what you're asking.
[14:06] <nbubuntu> bastidrazor : oh , then nevermind, will continue asking here thanks :)
[14:07] <nbubuntu> Anyone know how to print out System>Administration>Update Manager description via commandline into a text output ?  Thanks :)
[14:07] <llutz> !apt-listchanges | nbubuntu maybe this is what you're looking for?
[14:07] <llutz> !info apt-listchanges | nbubuntu maybe this is what you're looking for?
[14:11] <nbubuntu> llutz : download , but how do I output those change into the text ?
[14:13] <llutz> nbubuntu: read "dpkg -s apt-listchanges"
[14:15] <bobweaver> hello there is anyone using 11.10  I am having troubles with my /etc/apt/sources.list . I keep getting error about how something wicked happened with apt-get update  or anything with apt for that matter
[14:17] <Black> Bobweaver.. Exactly the error?
[14:18] <bobweaver> I have tried to run apt-get --fix-missing --fix-broken update and still that wont fix
[14:18] <bobweaver> dang it my isp is acting up again can anyone see this ?
[14:18] <Sidewinder1> bobweaver, Yes. :D
[14:19] <mang0> slakcphil: You there?
[14:20] <slakcphil> mang0 yeah man what's up?
[14:21] <mang0> slakcphil: bash problems still :P I've saved a new file (example.sh) and I've put  #!/bin/bash on line 1, and then line 2 reads cd Documents. I've +x'd the file, but when I run ./example.sh nothing happens?
[14:22] <slakcphil> that's because you script cd'd into the dir and then quit
[14:23] <slakcphil> if you put a new line in there saying something like `touch file` you should see the new file in the directory showing that the script made the traverse
[14:24] <slakcphil> mang0 ^^
[14:24] <mang0> slakcphil: Oh sorry, I was waiting for highlight
[14:24] <mang0> slakcphil: So if I want to cd in to the dir, list files (ls) and then quit?
[14:24] <mang0> would I just add ls to the script?
[14:25] <slakcphil> mang0 yeah, that should work if the ls goes to STDOUT
[14:25] <mang0> slakcphil: STDOUT?
[14:26] <slakcphil> or  you could ls > ls.txt
[14:26] <slakcphil> standard output
[14:26] <slakcphil> you terminal screen
[14:26] <mang0> slakcphil: I want the standard out put of ls, and I want to see it in the terminal window
[14:27] <jmscomtech> how do i enter console mode to install the nvidia proprietry drivers?
[14:27] <slakcphil> yeah that should work then
[14:28] <nbubuntu> llutz : it doesn't show what I wanted
[14:29] <mang0> slakcphil: Hurrah, it worked!
[14:30] <llutz> nbubuntu: sudo apt-get purge apt-listchanges
[14:31] <slakcphil> mang0 , cool
[14:32] <slakcphil> mang0 a good way to cleanly ls a dir would be to use a test like `if [ -d yourdir ] then ls yourdir`
[14:32] <slakcphil> fi
[14:32] <slakcphil> sorry but you get the point, google bash test
[14:32] <mang0> slakcphil what does that do? But yeah, i see :)
[14:32] <slakcphil> mang0 that way you script wont ls it unless it exists
[14:32] <mang0> aah
[14:34] <price_> exit
[14:37] <Chotaz> I have google chrome as my default webbrowser, yet when i open links on other apps, firefox always pops up, how can I solve this?
[14:38] <robin0800> Chotaz: you may have to uninstall firefox
[14:41] <llutz> Chotaz:  "update-alternatives --display x-www-browser|pastebinit"
[14:43] <z3ro3x> In the process of setting up Postfix I learned that my ISP blocks outgoing port 25.  I'm able to receive mail just fine via port 587.  I'm a noob when it comes to Postfix.  Is it necessary for it to be able to connect to port 25 or can I change that outgoing port to 587?
[14:43] <Resistance> z3ro3x:  your ISP will likely block any outbound mail protocols, regardless of port...
[14:44] <Resistance> z3ro3x:  for any *stable* mail server, you should use 25 for the mail port, and 587 for receiving mail
[14:44] <z3ro3x> Resistance, I asked them (at&t) in a live chat and they told me port 25 was the on one being blocked.
[14:44] <z3ro3x> I mean only one...
[14:45] <Resistance> *notices at&t is mentioned*
[14:45] <Resistance> z3ro3x:  i was unaware they still provide non-wireless internet services
[14:46] <Chotaz> llutz: according to that, they both have the same priority
[14:46] <z3ro3x> Resistance, In the Austin Texas area they provide DSL.
[14:46] <Resistance> ah
[14:46] <Resistance> z3ro3x:  you could always use a gmail account or something to send mail, and depending on what is using postfix, that should fix the mail-sending issue...
[14:46]  * Resistance has that set up on 3 servers on a Verizon FiOS home network
[14:47] <mazda01> trying to create a custom animated greeting card  but has to be copyright free
[14:48] <mcbaine1> Found this interesting... Quite a good Saturday so far  : http://goo.gl/l2nXQ
[14:48] <z3ro3x> Resistance, That's what I do.  I was setting up a mail server really for educational purposes so if I ever had to role out my own email I could.  It's a non issue I was just annoyed they where even blocking that.  But it's understandable why they want to stop spam being most customers are none IT people and a lot of them are infected spam bots.
[14:48] <Resistance> z3ro3x:  residential ISPs do that
[14:49] <ssokolow> How do I fix PCManFM so it doesn't try to second-guess me by scrolling up or down to the end of the file list of my mouse happened to exit the window through the top or bottom of the list widget?
[14:49] <z3ro3x> Resistance, She wanted me to upgrade to a business account to unblock the port.  I was like, thanks but no thanks.
[14:49] <Resistance> z3ro3x:  that's really the only way to unblock that port, for *any* residential provider
[14:50] <Resistance> or in my case, dump connectivity from my server(s) to external SMTP servers which i own, but that's more work ;P
[14:50] <bonita> guys, I switched to ubuntu11.10 and that's where I could start a long christmass story, but what I wanna know is, how can I add another language. In 10.04, it was simple, I added it and I could switch between them by clicking an icon on the top panel. How can I do it in 11th?
[14:51] <ssokolow> Not all residential ISPs block ports. Just most of them.
[14:51] <Resistance> ssokolow:  the ones in the US are kinda like that ;P
[14:51] <ssokolow> Resistance: Same in Canada for the big ones, but the smaller ones tend to trust you.
[14:52] <Resistance> ssokolow:  since you and i are discussing non-support, we can continue in #ubuntu-offtopic :)
[14:52] <z3ro3x> Resistance, So from I understand is that for SMTP mail servers to function they all have to making outgoing port 25 connections to communicate to each other regardless if you're using SSL/TLS and that's pretty much the standard workings of SMTP servers?
[14:52] <Resistance> z3ro3x:  standard workings
[14:52] <ssokolow> Resistance: I was done. I hate popping into #*-offtopic so I just keep my responses as minimal as possible.
[14:52] <Resistance> i've seen oddball setups but...
[14:52] <Resistance> :P
[14:53] <Resistance> but, outside of testing environments locally (say, one VM having SMTP server sending to another mailserver sitting on another box on said network, with false-DNS entered), you usually want it operating on port 25
[14:54] <z3ro3x> Resistance, So when one mail server relays email to another email server it's doing it on port 25?  In clear text?  I thought the whole point of using SSL/TLS for the mail server was so no one can sniff the traffic and read your email.
[14:55] <Resistance> z3ro3x:  its using port 25, as for SSL/TLS, its probably using another port encrypted
[14:55] <Resistance> z3ro3x:  since you're delving into server jargon and confusing your concepts...
[14:55] <Resistance> i'm going to divert my attention to this system which is demanding my attention... *says something about evil degrading RAID arrays*
[14:56] <bonita> hi all!
[14:56] <GI_Jack> hey, where do I find an OEM style install disk for ubuntu
[14:56] <bonita> guys, I switched to ubuntu11.10 and that's where I could start a long christmass story, but what I wanna know is, how can I add another language. In 10.04, it was simple, I added it and I could switch between them by clicking an icon on the top panel. How can I do it in 11th?
[14:56] <Resistance> GI_Jack:  any of the ubuntu images :/
[14:56] <Resistance> GI_Jack:  but fwiw, define "OEM style"
[14:57] <Resistance> z3ro3x:  don't assume i know the inner workings of postfix.  But usually it won't send SSL/TLS'd stuff via plaintext
[14:57] <GI_Jack> user information and configuration done on first boot
[14:57] <Resistance> because its SSL
[14:57] <GI_Jack> not install time
[14:57] <GI_Jack> like if you buy a windows box from the store
[14:57] <Resistance> z3ro3x:  the people who are definitely more knowledgeable might be in #ubuntu-server, or you can wait here for one of their people to answer you in better detail
[14:58] <Resistance> GI_Jack:  i'm not sure such a thing exists, System76 might've mastered it though... if they did, i'm pretty sure they arent stock installations
[14:58] <Resistance> GI_Jack:  in theory, you could have a partition on the drive that contains the ISO image, leaving the rest of the drive empty...
[14:59] <Resistance> GI_Jack:  and then set the ISO-image partition to boot, that'd do installation and configuration in one go
[14:59] <Resistance> but that's in theory, not necessarily in practice
[15:00] <GI_Jack> yeah, but then you are left with an iso partition on the hd
[15:00] <bonita> BTW, I have 11.10 installed on usb and after restart, it seem to "forget" my settings. I was thinking, maybe "remember last session" would help, but where to find it? Anyone?
[15:00] <jmscomtech> why did nvidia-163 screw my system up when i have a gtx 460 installed?
[15:00] <Resistance> GI_Jack:  you realize most systems manufacturers have a reset partition?  using your example of course, they sometimes include a reset partition on those systems...
[15:01] <Resistance> GI_Jack:  therefore they can wipe/reset easily
[15:01] <jmscomtech> *nvidia-173
[15:01] <Resistance> (granted, i purge data anyways and install my own installation images, but... :P
[15:01] <Resistance> )
[15:01] <Resistance> GI_Jack:  i'm unaware of such an image, but don't assume i know everything, perhaps someone else knows of such a setup
[15:02] <GI_Jack> oh, the dvd installer has it by default
[15:02] <GI_Jack> and it needs to workfor noobypants
[15:04] <bonita> anyone?
[15:05] <bonita> guys, I switched to ubuntu11.10 and that's where I could start a long christmass story, but what I wanna know is, how can I add another language. In 10.04, it was simple, I added it and I could switch between them by clicking an icon on the top panel. How can I do it in 11th?
[15:05] <Resistance> bonita:  you need patience
[15:05] <Black> Hello bonyta
[15:05] <Resistance> !patience | bonita
[15:06] <bonita> sorry, these are simple tasks, but can't find the answers, plus, it seems like not everything work on my installation.
[15:06] <bonita> *s
[15:06] <Resistance> bonita:  as i said, patience is required
[15:07] <bonita> I
[15:07] <bonita> 'll be rb.
[15:08] <whizz> what permissions should /home have?
[15:08] <GI_Jack> it really depends
[15:08] <GI_Jack> personally 4751
[15:08] <GI_Jack> with root - users for owner
[15:09] <GI_Jack> 755 with root - root for ownership works too
[15:10] <Ryllez89> Have anyway to put the old style on ubuntu menu?
[15:11] <llutz> GI_Jack: 47xx is senseless, suid-root on directories is ignored on linux systems
[15:11] <GI_Jack> wait, I'm sorry 1751
[15:12] <GI_Jack> its early I am getting my bits mixed up
[15:12] <GI_Jack> I ment the sticky bit and got it backwards
[15:13] <Rockyglace> Hm.
[15:13] <Rockyglace> Bonjour.
[15:13] <mama_> hi everybody. I got a problem with pidgin i Unity on 11.10. When I start pidgin I can't see it's window despite it's I can see pidgin Icon in side bar.
[15:13] <llutz> 755 root:root on /home should be fine, 700 user:user for $HOME (some prefer 750)
[15:14] <GI_Jack> pro-tip if you run apache and you want to us public_html the eXecute bit has to be set on your home dir
[15:14] <GI_Jack> if your running a desktop don't worry about it though
[15:16] <Ryllez89> GI_Jack,  u can teach to me how add a user on terminal?
[15:16] <llutz> Ryllez89: sudo adduser
[15:16] <Ryllez89> llutz, how i put a password?
[15:16] <GI_Jack> sudo adduser ??
[15:16] <GI_Jack> probably the easiest way
[15:16] <ubuntu> how do you make a USB ubuntu that boots up to the desktop with a certain keyboard layout pre-selected?
[15:16] <llutz> Ryllez89: adduser will ask for some info, incl password
[15:16] <GI_Jack> type man adduser
[15:17] <GI_Jack> or useradd if you wanna be rael hardcore
[15:17] <benbloom> is there something obviously wrong with this line from fstab? none /home/benbloom/Videos aufs br:/media/WIN7DATA/Videos=rw:/srv/nfs/HDHD1=ro:/srv/nfs/HDHD2=ro:/srv/nfs/HDHD3=ro:/srv/nfs/HDHD4=ro:/srv/nfs/emmett=ro 0 0
[15:19] <GI_Jack> or simple sudo cat newuser:x:1001:1000::/home/newuser:/bin/bash
[15:19] <bonita> another thing: I was trying to add apps to my top panel(like where clock is). I've searched the web and found out, that when you press alt and  right click the "add" menu pops up. But it doesn't work in my case. Anyone tried that?
[15:19] <GI_Jack> >> /etc/passwd
[15:19] <benbloom> I'm trying to create a single dir "~/Videos" that contains the mounted nfs in /srv/nfs
[15:19] <innolee_> !Bald Cameron Haley - [Underworld Cycle 02] - Skeleton Crew (html).rar
[15:19] <ubuntu> how do you make sure live ubuntu boots with a certain keynboard layout?
[15:20] <GI_Jack> sudo mount -o bind /srv/nfs  ~/Videos
[15:20] <GI_Jack> ??
[15:20] <robin0800> bonita: that's only in gnome classic
[15:20] <benbloom> I'm trying to set up a aufs tho. several drives
[15:21] <robin0800> ! notunity | bonita
[15:21] <bonita> ok, thx!
[15:23] <aguitel> how reset unity settings ?
[15:23] <benbloom> GI_Jack: are you familiar with aufs in fstab? here's my /etc/fstab
[15:23] <benbloom> http://pastebin.com/U8QiEiNd
[15:24] <GI_Jack> vaugley familar with aufs
[15:24] <benbloom> i think i just figured it out
[15:24] <Ryllez89> the "adduser" don't work here
[15:25] <ubuntu> why does ubuntu always boot up with US keyboard layout? how do you change it?
[15:25] <GI_Jack> Ryllez: what does it say
[15:25] <Ryllez89> GI_Jack,  i will paste here but my ubunte is portuguese-br
[15:25] <Ryllez89> root@RVB01:~# adduser Rodrigo
[15:25] <Ryllez89> adduser: Por favor entre com um nome de usuário que correspondente a expressão configurada regularmente
[15:25] <Ryllez89> através da variável de configuração NAME_REGEX[_SYSTEM}.  Utilize a opção `--force-badname'
[15:25] <Ryllez89> para aliviar esta verificação ou reconfigure NAME_REGEX.
[15:26] <yeats> !pt | Ryllez89
[15:26] <GI_Jack> give me a sec to run it through google translator
[15:26] <llutz> Ryllez89: LANG=C adduser           to get english messages
[15:26] <GI_Jack> hrmm
[15:26] <Ryllez89> adduser: Please enter a username matching the regular expression configured
[15:26] <Ryllez89> via the NAME_REGEX[_SYSTEM} configuration variable.  Use the `--force-badname'
[15:26] <Ryllez89> option to relax this check or reconfigure NAME_REGEX.
[15:27] <GI_Jack> oh, you need to do sudo adduser <username>
[15:27] <llutz> Ryllez89: don't use capitals as 1st char
[15:27] <yeats> Ryllez89: it's because you can't use a capital
[15:27] <llutz> GI_Jack: he is root, no sudo needed
[15:27] <VitaminE> is there some anti virus or similar to scan non repository debs?
[15:28] <GI_Jack> oh
[15:28] <ubuntu> how do you change the keyboard layout which ubuntu boots with?
[15:29] <yeats> VitaminE: not really - you can run AV locally and scan after a download - I would say don't use a repo you don't trust
[15:29] <Ryllez89> thanks guys, the problem was in the first caracter
[15:29] <Ryllez89> have difference in Rodrigo and rodrigo o.O
[15:31] <VitaminE> yeats , so if i download a .deb and then scan it there wont be a problem?
[15:31] <ubuntu> does kernel have boot parameters that affect the keyboard layout of ubuntu gnome?
[15:31] <yeats> VitaminE: 1) I wouldn't be concerned about viruses, per se 2) do you have a reason to suspect that the deb is (or contains) malware?
[15:32] <sedeki> I need to reinstall my entire alsa-subsystem
[15:32] <sedeki> I get no sound at all
[15:32] <ubuntu> does this channel even see my messages?
[15:32] <sedeki> I tried to recompile it myself because I didn't want to have sound from speakers and headphones at the same time
[15:32] <VitaminE> ubuntu , yes it does
[15:34] <VitaminE> ubuntu , you want to change your keyboard layout? try at login screen
[15:35] <VitaminE> ubuntu , you want to change your keyboard layout? try at login screen , after you choose user i guess. at the bottom
[15:35] <ubuntu> there is no login screen
[15:36] <ubuntu> when has there ever been a login screen on USB ubuntu?
[15:36] <ubuntu> it boots straight to desktop
[15:36] <nobitanobi> Just installed RVM, and every time I open the terminal, I get "is_a_function" command not found.  How can I see from where that message comes from?
[15:36] <VitaminE> what operative system are you using?
[15:36] <ubuntu> and all the changes you make get reset when you reboot
[15:36] <zxy_64> hi, i read that displayconfig-gtk was deprecated in ubuntu 8.* what can i use now to fix my monitor problems
[15:37] <nobitanobi> Ubuntu 11.04
[15:37] <VitaminE> ubuntu , i guess you are using an usb live, right?
[15:37] <ubuntu> yeah
[15:37] <zxy_64> i use 11.10
[15:37] <ubuntu> 11.10 or something like that
[15:37] <ubuntu> newest one
[15:38] <ubuntu> it always boots up with en_us
[15:38] <ubuntu> i need something else
[15:38] <VitaminE> ubuntu, click the switch button where you shut down restart etc , choose system settings
[15:38] <pangolin> ubuntu: you are using a Live USB?
[15:38] <ubuntu> but it won't save it to the stick?
[15:38] <ubuntu> i am
[15:38] <ubuntu> won't it just reset when computer restarts
[15:38] <pangolin> Live won't save any settings, will default back.
[15:38] <bonita> ubuntu, are you sure, you are using the usb installation with persistent change?
[15:38] <ubuntu> yeah how do you change the defaults
[15:39] <VitaminE> ubuntu , at system settings choose login screen
[15:39] <pangolin> !usb | ubuntu you want to make a persistant USB
[15:39] <ubuntu> how do you switch on changes that persist
[15:39] <pangolin> see the last link
[15:39] <VitaminE> ubuntu , does your live usb as a persistent file?
[15:39] <VitaminE> ubuntu , does your live usb has a persistent file?
[15:39] <ubuntu> yeah
[15:40] <bonita> ubuntu, I mean the installation itself. Check the link ubottu pasted.
[15:40] <pangolin> apparently not
[15:40] <ubuntu> i don't know
[15:40] <VitaminE> ubuntu , at system settings choose login screen
[15:40] <ubuntu> ill try
[15:40] <ubuntu> ill reboot
[15:40] <pangolin> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent is what you want to follow
[15:40] <bonita> wait!
[15:40] <ubuntu> i selected that option
[15:40] <ubuntu> when creating the stick
[15:40] <ubuntu> with that USBcreator thingy
[15:40] <ubuntu> what ubuntu recommend
[15:40] <ubuntu> for windows
[15:40] <bonita> create an empty file on your desktop and see if it's still there, after you reboot.
[15:41] <ubuntu> k
[15:41] <VitaminE> ubuntu , then choose show the screen for choosing who will login
[15:41] <nobitanobi> what's the difference between bashrc and bash profile?
[15:41] <ubuntu> what will the persistant file be mounbted as?
[15:42] <ubuntu> if i have it
[15:42] <VitaminE> ubuntu , restar and choose ubuntu as user, choose your keyboard and leave the password blank
[15:42] <bonita> just create a file and reboot, it's the simplest way.
[15:42] <ubuntu> rebooting now then
[15:44] <zxy_64> what program do i use to select an old CRT monittor tthat is nott recognized by system (i only get 640x480 resolution) on uubuntu 11.10
[15:44] <TiMiDo> zxy_64, depending on your system
[15:44] <TiMiDo> on the video card it has
[15:44] <zxy_64> nvidia with 173 drivers
[15:45] <TiMiDo> have you downloading nvidia-settigns?
[15:45] <TiMiDo> that will automatically configured your x
[15:45] <zxy_64> it recognized some new lcd before, but now on the old CRT one it doesnt
[15:45] <TiMiDo> *settings
[15:45] <ubuntu> yeah didn\t work
[15:45] <ubuntu> nothing got saved
[15:46] <ubuntu> and the isolinux.cfg that crappy tool created is wrong
[15:46] <TiMiDo> ubuntu, then install it to your h/d
[15:46] <ubuntu> there is no hd
[15:46] <TiMiDo> oh
[15:46] <ubuntu> only usb stick
[15:46] <ubuntu> 2G
[15:46] <TiMiDo> sucks
[15:46] <ubuntu> how do you change the isolinux.cfg on the stick
[15:46] <VitaminE> ubuntu , do you have the keyboard layout you need?
[15:46] <pangolin> !remaster
[15:47] <ubuntu> VitaminE: no
[15:47] <ubuntu> its US
[15:47] <r4y> I don't know, but I found this thread once when I was trying to find out how to help someone here with the nick faz
[15:47] <r4y> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1621991
[15:47] <zxy_64> TiMiDo, i tied nvidia-settings, but it cant find display, i get an error on X server tab,where i could change the resolution
[15:47] <TiMiDo> zxy_64, paste your xorg.log
[15:47] <TiMiDo> to paste.ubuntu.com
[15:48] <zxy_64> TiMiDo,  http://paste.lugons.org/show/PGXk3lncL2Iv3BAXmpIK/
[15:48] <TiMiDo> lol
[15:49] <TiMiDo> no wonder
[15:49] <TiMiDo> you only have 5 lines in your xorg.conf?
[15:49] <TiMiDo> what the hell
[15:49] <ubuntu> so how do i change isolinux.cfg on the stick_
[15:49] <VitaminE> ubuntu , did you get into a login screen?
[15:49] <mazda01> .mov from iphone 4 vlc playback is a little unsync'd. any thoughts?
[15:49] <ubuntu> no
[15:49] <ubuntu> there is no login screen
[15:49] <ubuntu> on usb live ubuntu
[15:50] <zxy_64> TiMiDo, it worked on 1 year old lcd
[15:50] <zxy_64> basically xorg.conf souldnt be needed any more
[15:50] <Oer> ubuntu the live installer gives you allways choice of language keyboard , or did you install persistent on usb ?
[15:50] <TiMiDo> zxy_64, lol who told you such stupidity?
[15:50] <VitaminE> ubuntu , system settings ,then choose show the screen for choosing who will login you will have one or at least you should get into one
[15:50] <mazda01> here's the codec info http://pastebin.com/GKc1PW0F
[15:50] <zxy_64> cos i don't have it on many systems
[15:50] <ubuntu> i used some crappy fucking unetbootin thing
[15:50] <ubuntu> it crated a horrible stick
[15:51] <ubuntu> the menu is wrong
[15:51] <daveciac> You always need xorg.conf.
[15:51] <FloodBot1> ubuntu: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:51] <mazda01> i have all FFMPEG libraries installed, medibuntu
[15:51] <ubuntu> its not the ubuntu menuy
[15:51] <Oer> please, watch your language ubuntu
[15:51] <bonita> about gnome classic: I found a how to with direct link to install gnome classic, but the software center said, that gnome-fallback is laready installed (the 3.*)...?? Anyway, can log into classic on usb persistent?
[15:51] <VitaminE> ubuntu try the startup this creator taht cames with ubuntu live cd
[15:51] <daveciac> Unetbootin uses syslinux. It gives you a few options, you press enter, and it boots.
[15:51] <ubuntu> i cant
[15:51] <ubuntu> im on site not home
[15:51] <TiMiDo> zxy_64, lol type this as sudo nvidia-xsettings
[15:52] <TiMiDo> and then re run x zxy_64
[15:52] <daveciac> From there it'll take you to the Ubuntu menu
[15:52] <ubuntu> daveciac: no it doesnt
[15:52] <ubuntu> the default entry is wrong
[15:52] <TiMiDo> zxy_64, sorry is sudo nvidia-xconfig as root
[15:52] <ubuntu> its ridiculous
[15:52] <daveciac> ubuntu: What options does it give you at the boot screen?
[15:52] <ubuntu> default
[15:52] <ubuntu> iknstall ubuntu
[15:52] <ubuntu> try ubuntu without installing
[15:53] <ubuntu> default entry is wrong
[15:53] <FloodBot1> ubuntu: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:53] <daveciac> Use try Ubuntu without installing
[15:53] <ubuntu> yeah but i want that to be default
[15:53] <mazda01> .mov playback in VLC choppy, any thoughts? http://pastebin.com/GKc1PW0F
[15:53] <biopyte> hi. i'm looking for a simple xy-graph-plotter. the point is, the program should be integrated into a bash pipe and receive a constant data flow from stdio. the plotter should update the graph continously. somehow like a network traffic monitor or similar.
[15:53] <ubuntu> the stick is mounted ro
[15:53] <ubuntu> i cant change it
[15:53] <daveciac> ubuntu: I'll look up some config file changes that might work for you.
[15:53] <ubuntu> whose idea was to make the stick mount ro
[15:53] <ubuntu> thats ridiculous
[15:53] <TiMiDo> mazda01, what's your issue?
[15:53] <ubuntu> no i know what will work for me
[15:54] <ubuntu> but its REad ONLT
[15:54] <ubuntu> i cant change it
[15:54] <Oer> ubuntu the installer is ro, correct
[15:54] <mazda01> TiMiDo, playback is not sync'd. audio and video
[15:54] <ubuntu> no /dev/sda1 is
[15:54] <mazda01> TiMiDo, plays fine in windows quicktime
[15:54] <ubuntu> thats the stick with the installer
[15:55] <TiMiDo> mazda01, sudo adduser username audio and video
[15:55] <ubuntu> ill boot to another stick
[15:55] <ubuntu> and change this stick
[15:55] <ubuntu> so while im doing that, are the kernel boot parameters to preselect keyboard layout_
[15:55] <ubuntu> that affect ubuntu ghnome
[15:55] <ubuntu> gnome
[15:55] <r4y> ubuntu can you mount your hard drive looking in your hard drive from the live cd?
[15:55] <sudipta> i have a problem with my gnome shell desktop
[15:55] <ubuntu> there is no hardrive
[15:55] <TiMiDo> yes r4y
[15:55] <TiMiDo> of course
[15:55] <TiMiDo> you can
[15:55] <TiMiDo> ;)
[15:56] <FloodBot1> TiMiDo: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:56] <r4y> No, I was asking ubuntu, sorry
[15:56] <daveciac> sudipta: What's the problem?
[15:56] <r4y> so ubuntu doesn't have a hard drive?
[15:57] <sudipta> daveciac:any application with  a shortcut at the bottom right corner, the desktop starts flickering
[15:57] <mazda01> TiMiDo, already a user it says
[15:57] <TiMiDo> mazda01, did you add the right user name?
[15:58] <sudipta> daveciac: i dont know whether its a issue with the driver
[15:58] <r4y> I meant to help you with read write problems perhaps, I have some commands, but I am not sure if it is in vain to show them
[15:58] <mazda01> TiMiDo, yes tim
[15:58] <TiMiDo> ok
[15:58] <TiMiDo> log in log out from X mazda01
[15:58] <mazda01> TiMiDo, i am a kdenlive user.
[15:58] <mazda01> TiMiDo, just did that prior to coming here
[15:59] <daveciac> sudipta: Do you have an Nvidia or ATI card? Or integrated graphics
[15:59] <TiMiDo> LoL
[15:59] <ubuntu> this is hopeless
[15:59] <mazda01> TiMiDo, i'm VERY comfortable with ubuntu
[15:59] <sudipta> daveciac: nVidia
[15:59] <mazda01> TiMiDo, just codec and video/audio codec and how mplayer, vlc, and xine libraries work is all
[15:59] <r4y> I meant do you ubuntu have files and folder that you can see that have read only?
[15:59] <sudipta> daveciac: nVidia Corporation G72 [GeForce 7300 SE/7200 GS] (rev a1)
[16:00] <daveciac> sudipta: Proprietary drivers?
[16:00] <TiMiDo> mazda01, try this apt-cache search video codecs and Enjoy your self
[16:00] <mazda01> TiMiDo, here's the mov file mediainfo  http://pastebin.com/GKc1PW0F  can anyone help determine why vlc and movie player within 10.04.3 audio/video is OUT of sync
[16:00] <mazda01> TiMiDo, thank you
[16:00] <TiMiDo> np
[16:00] <sudipta> daveciac: yup
[16:01] <mazda01> TiMiDo, i only have about 512mb of DDRII ram left, maybe that's it. I am multi-tasking to the limit
[16:01] <bonita> I'll try my first issue again:
[16:01] <bonita> guys, I switched to ubuntu11.10 and that's where I could start a long christmass story, but what I wanna know is, how can I add another language. In 10.04, it was simple, I added it and I could switch between them by clicking an icon on the top panel. How can I do it in 11th?
[16:01] <TiMiDo> wow mazda01
[16:01] <mazda01> TiMiDo, cpu load is at 20%
[16:01] <TiMiDo> wow
[16:01] <TiMiDo> don't abuse it
[16:01] <sudipta> daveciac: i have tried the free drivers its not that good
[16:01] <TiMiDo> ;P
[16:01] <daveciac> sudipta: Unless you absolutely need the performance, I would go to the driver manager and use open-source drivers.
[16:02] <mazda01> TiMiDo, oh, im "doing work" I have dreams of going viral, SOON
[16:02] <daveciac> sudipta: Proprietary drivers are still iffy.
[16:02] <TiMiDo> ok
[16:02] <TiMiDo> well back to my dream of fixing bugs
[16:02] <TiMiDo> ;P
[16:02] <daveciac> sudipta: You could also go the driver options and try to disable "Force GPU Scaling". It works for some people.
[16:03] <mazda01> TiMiDo, googles new "what do you love" type in "ubuntuaddicted" without quotes. http://www.wdyl.com/#ubuntuaddicted  you can see me everywhere on the interwebz in all things ubuntu and technoologyu
but the free drivers r laggy...at least in my machine.....is it the problem with the driver or with the shell itself?
[16:04] <mazda01> TiMiDo, not trying to brag, just confident it will happen with all my social media networks out there.
[16:04] <mazda01> sorry, i know it's off topic. i am done
[16:04] <TiMiDo> good job ;)
[16:04] <daveciac> sudipta: As far as I know, it is a driver issue. However, by disabling certain buggy features for that driver, you might be able to get more consistent performance. Try disabling "Force GPU Scaling" in the driver manager on the card.
[16:05] <ubuntu> ok this crappy stick i have, how do i update it to offical ubuntu bootloader_
[16:05] <ubuntu> or is it even possible when the sticks been made with unetbootin
[16:06] <devish> hi any ubuntu forums mods around here
[16:07] <benbloom> ok. i have a question about filesystems (aufs nfs and ntfs). heres my fstab: http://pastebin.com/aFMg9hZp
[16:07] <nothingspecial> devish:  go to #ubuntuforums ;)
[16:07] <Resistance> devish:  this isnt the channel for the ubuntu forums, if you need help from them, post in the Forums Feedback & Help forum in the forums
[16:08] <devish> thanks guys
[16:08] <benbloom> i get an error when relating to HDHD4 which is the only of the nfs that is originally ntfs. could this be the issue?
[16:08] <TiMiDo> benbloom, define the error,
[16:09] <benbloom> it gives me the generic fstab "bad option or something" error
[16:09] <benbloom> wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on none, blah blah blah TiMiDo
[16:10] <TiMiDo> benbloom, check your h/d
[16:11] <zxy_64> TiMiDo, http://paste.lugons.org/show/kdEXbFCu6W3med35A8OM/  i tried with this config and still the same
[16:11] <zxy_64> 640x480
[16:11] <zxy_64> this one was made by nvidia-xconfig
[16:11] <benbloom> TiMiDo: the drive is working fine. and it's mounting via nfs fine as well. I just tried streaming a movie from it
[16:12] <TiMiDo> yeah
[16:12] <r4y> Where did ubuntu go, I was talking to him but he left before I was going to give him this info: I think DBAN might be able to fix the read only problem on his usb stick
[16:12] <TiMiDo> it does happen because you are having super blocks issues.
[16:12] <bonita> this is crazy!
[16:12] <r4y> I read that even new hard drives have bad blocks
[16:12] <bonita> how to "remember last session" in ubuntu 11.10 ??
[16:12] <r4y> do this, I need a sec
[16:12] <benbloom> so should i run fsck TiMiDo? or maybe have windows check/repair it?
[16:13] <TiMiDo> bonita, look in your home dir for a file call .xsession
[16:13] <r4y> If you are logged in this will help: sudo touch /forcefsck then restart
[16:13] <TiMiDo> benbloom, either one
[16:14] <daveciac> benbloom: It can't hurt to check the drive.
[16:14] <bonita> I typed in terminal locate .xsession, but nothing came up...
[16:15] <benbloom> k.Ill try it. i was assuming it was something wrong with my configuration
[16:15] <daveciac> bonita: Go to your home directory in terminal and then run "sudo nano .xsession"
[16:16] <bonita> daveciac looks, like it's an empty file. Possible?
[16:20] <vikash> hi evry one
[16:20] <vikash> ...............
[16:20] <bonita> hi
[16:20] <vikash> someone pls help me with ubuntu updates
[16:21] <bonita> daveciac looks, like it's an empty file. Possible?
[16:21] <vikash> someone pls help me with ubuntu updates
[16:21] <pangolin> !ask | vikash
[16:21] <Froodle> Anyone know an image organizer that can detect the same image in different resolutions?
[16:22] <bonita> ask a question
[16:22] <vikash> my ubuntu is not updating since release of 12.04 alpha
[16:22] <vikash> bonita can u help me wit diss
[16:23] <pangolin> !pangolin
[16:23] <bonita> I wish I could, but I'm struggling with 11.10... But, if it's alpha, there might be no good answer.
[16:24] <vikash> no i too hav 11.10
[16:24] <clear`> i have actually enjoyed 11.10 so far
[16:24] <pangolin> so why mention 12.04?
[16:24] <bonita> Guys, I've opened .xsession file, and looks, like it's empty. What's next? How to set up "remember last session"?
[16:24] <vikash> but since alpha release .. the 11.10 is not updating
[16:25] <pangolin> the alpha release has nothing to do with anything
[16:25] <pangolin> what error are you getting?
[16:25] <bonita> I updated mine yesterday.
[16:25] <ubuntu> whats the boot parameter to set up keymap_
[16:26] <vikash> pangolin  m gettin dis kinda msg :"insert the ubuntu 12.04 cd"
[16:26] <pangolin> so you tried to upgrade to 12.04?
[16:26] <r4y> Have you tried updating grub?
[16:26] <r4y> sudo update-grub
[16:26] <vikash> no
[16:26] <vikash> i didnt tried
[16:26] <robin0800> ubuntu: its keyboard in system settings after you have logged in
[16:26] <ubuntu> robin0800: in kernel paremeters
[16:27] <r4y> Anyways, I can't help anyone, I should go, take care
[16:27] <pangolin> vikash: what is the output of lsb_release -a
[16:27] <Ryllez89> guys, any tutorial to install VMware ?
[16:27] <mneptok> vikash: pastebin that
[16:27] <vikash> same its
[16:27] <vikash> showing ubuntu 11.10
[16:27] <pangolin> what about uname -a
[16:28] <pangolin> pastebin the output please
[16:28] <mneptok> vikash: pastebin the output of lsb_release -a. don't just tell us, please.
[16:28] <robin0800> ubuntu: don't know a kernel parameter  why can't you use the unity shell?
[16:28] <mneptok> vikash: also, pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list
[16:28] <dantess> всем добрый вечер
[16:28] <ubuntu> but whats the kernel paremeters
[16:28] <pangolin> !ru | dantess
[16:28] <ubuntu> that ubuntu uses
[16:29] <vikash> pangolin i pasted lsb_release -a
[16:30] <vikash> and its showing the same version
[16:30] <pangolin> where?
[16:30] <mneptok> !pastebin | vikash
[16:30] <vikash> in terminal
[16:30] <pangolin> vikash: We can't help you if you don't show us the info we ask for
[16:30] <vikash> ok lemme paste it
[16:31] <dr_willis> pastebinit command is worth learning   :-)
[16:31] <pangolin> truth with set you free also
[16:31] <pangolin> will*
[16:32] <mneptok> HALLELUJAH!
[16:32] <bonita> adding language in ubuntu 11.10, anyone?
[16:33] <Seveas> ameneptok!
[16:33] <pangolin> ops being all offtopic!
[16:33] <Seveas> sst
[16:33] <fasta> After pause, why isn't the WiFi connection restored?
[16:33] <pangolin> don't make me lart you on Xmas
[16:33] <Seveas> it's the day before christmas, when the larts are asleep
[16:33] <robin0800> bonita: system settings language
[16:34] <mneptok> when larts need to sleep, do they close their eyes and count trolls?
[16:34] <GI_Jack> bonita - sudo apt-get install synaptic
[16:34] <mneptok> GI_Jack: uh.
[16:35] <GI_Jack> then run synaptic
[16:35] <DzaDze> hello
[16:35] <GI_Jack> then search language-pack
[16:35] <Seveas> GI_Jack, that's not necessary
[16:35] <GI_Jack> oh
[16:35] <DzaDze> can i ask for ubuntu 11.10 problem here ?
[16:35] <pangolin> yes
[16:35] <Seveas> DzaDze, yes you can
[16:35] <pangolin> what type of problem would like us to give you?
[16:35] <pangolin> :)
[16:35] <GI_Jack> bonita - what lang do you need?
[16:35]  * mneptok has a basketful, according to the CC
[16:35] <pangolin> ok enough of not being helpful :)
[16:36] <Seveas> mneptok, are you sure they didn't mean "you're a basket case"?
[16:36] <mneptok> Seveas: the truth is probably somewhere in the median between those sentiments
[16:36] <bonita> robin0800 you mean language support? There's no option so I could add let's say German and use both of them whenever I nedd.
[16:37] <DzaDze>  installed ubuntu 11.10, and than gnome shell,  than i kicked my ass of to install user-themes for gnome shell and finally did it..
[16:37] <bonita> I don't want to switch langs. I want to add another one.
[16:37] <Seveas> bonita, you can install support for german via language support, and choose a language when logging in.
[16:37] <DzaDze> but i cant change the windows button to the left
[16:37] <Seveas> you can also run single applications with a different language, but that requires some command-line fu
[16:38] <bonita> I know that. Back in ubuntu 10.04, I just added a lang. then I could select if I want to use this one, or that one by clicing on the icon on the top panel. I'm looking for something similar.
[16:39] <vikash> pangolin i have posted the output of  first command in da paste bin
[16:39] <Seveas> huh? I thought the panel icon was for switching keyboard layout, not languages
[16:39] <pangolin> vikash: We need the url. There are hundreds of pastebins on the webernets
[16:40] <vikash> pangolin http://paste.ubuntu.com/781232/
[16:40] <pangolin> vikash: ok can you paste /etc/apt/sources.list please
[16:40] <DzaDze> anyone ?
[16:40] <pangolin> !controls
[16:41] <pangolin> not sure if that still works but worth a try DzaDze ^
[16:41] <mneptok> DzaDze: never used GNOME Shell myself
[16:41] <GI_Jack> beside on the control panel there is a button for language
[16:41] <GI_Jack> gnome-shell rocks
[16:41] <GI_Jack> you need the web8 repo for plugins thou
[16:41] <GI_Jack> ubuntu does put any plugins in official repo
[16:42] <vikash> yeap
[16:42] <Froodle> Anyone know an image organizer that can detect the same image in different resolutions?
[16:42] <_cb> if I want to install sun java do I need to un-install openjdk?
[16:42] <GI_Jack> ppa:webupd8team/gnome3
[16:43] <bonita> ok, you were right. My mistake. Switching keyboards will do the job, I got confused.
[16:43] <bonita> thanks.
[16:43] <omid> how can i unnstall ati propritary drivers(installed using amd's .run installer)?
[16:44] <vikash> pangolin http://paste.ubuntu.com/781237/
[16:44] <omid> how can i unnstall ati propritary drivers(installed using amd's .run installer)
[16:45] <bonita> take care!
[16:45] <bonita> bye!
[16:46] <vikash> who
[16:46] <_cb> if I want to install sun java do I need to un-install openjdk?
[16:47] <ubuntu> whose in charge of ubuntu live bootloader_
[16:47] <edbian> ubuntu, somebody that is probably not in this channel
[16:47] <vikash> pangolin u got the info?
[16:48] <pangolin> vikash: that is the same pastebin as before
[16:48] <ubuntu> yeah, so what channel are they on_
[16:48] <vikash> pangolin .. so do i hav 2 paste both outputs again?
[16:50] <pangolin> vikash: paste /.etc/apt/sources.list give us the url and someone in here will try to help with your update problem. I'm out. Happy holidays.
[16:50] <pangolin> vikash: paste /etc/apt/sources.list give us the url and someone in here will try to help with your update problem. I'm out. Happy holidays.
[16:50] <vikash> thx pangolin
[16:50] <edbian> vikash, what's your update problem?
[16:51] <echo6> anywhere using Ubuntu Alternative to install crypto over LVM?
[16:51] <vikash> my 11.10 is not updating.. its asking for 12.04 alpha cd
[16:51] <vikash> edbian
[16:51] <yeats> vikash: on line three of your paste, at "maindeb", put your cursor between "main" and "deb" and hit enter
[16:51] <yeats> vikash: then save and see if it works
[16:51] <edbian> vikash, do what yeats said :)
[16:51] <vikash> ok
[16:52] <Nockian> i'm using vmware player 4.0.1-528992.x86_64 on ubuntu 11.10. it runs and opens the virtual machine fine, and i can use it in the window... but when i alt-tab between applications the vmware player window disappears and i cannot bring it back up. any ideas?
[16:52] <pr0xy> I'm teaching my elderly grandfather how to use Ubuntu 11.10, and he has no prior computer knowledge, I sort of know what he needs to learn, but I'm having issues with unity. How can I make tooltips more obvious on his account only?
[16:52] <yeats> Nockian: I've seen weirdness like that when using vmware but don't know the solution - try asking in #vmware
[16:53] <Nockian> yeats: i have, thank you. nobody seems to be awake :)
[16:53] <vikash> yeats actually i pasted it by mistake
[16:53] <yeats> vikash: eh?
[16:53] <GI_Jack> pr0xy - best kind, because he has no prior bad OS habbits
[16:54] <edbian> pr0xy, in unity 2D the tooltips on the unity bar come up instantly for me instead of after a delay
[16:54] <edbian> pr0xy, also they're big and pretty instead of small and on a yellow box
[16:54] <vikash> yeats .. in the txt file its already written in da same pattern wat u askin for me todo
[16:54] <yeats> vikash: okay - so what's not working now?
[16:54] <edbian> in da same pattern wat u askin for me todo
[16:56] <vikash> yeats my 11.10 is not updating and askin for 12.04 alpha cd...but wen i insert the cd it doesnt recognises it
[16:56] <vikash> and updates stuck
[16:56] <pr0xy> so, should he be using unity 2d, then>
[16:58] <edbian> pr0xy, IDK, that's a matter of opinion
[16:58] <edbian> pr0xy, but the tooltips in unity 2d on the unity bar are a little more 'in your face'
[16:58] <edbian> IMO
[16:58] <pr0xy> okay
[16:58] <vikash> yeats any solution?
[16:59] <shrek1> i am using gnome 3. how can i put an icon on my desktop?
[16:59] <pr0xy> shrek1 what icons?
[17:00] <ubuntu> !flash
[17:00] <shrek1> like folders, app shorcuts, terminal
[17:00] <pr0xy> okay, so gnome shell?
[17:02] <shrek1> pr0xy:  what it mean , "so gnome shell"?
[17:02] <ayaka> does audacious support cue index?
[17:02] <ubuntu> does 11.10 64bit have flash plugin support?
[17:02] <pr0xy> shrek1, by gnome 3 do you mean gnome-shell?
[17:03] <shrek1> pr0xy: yes
[17:03] <pr0xy> shrek1 are you using 11.10 or UGR on 11.04, or what?
[17:04] <ubuntu> well does either one of those have flash for x64?
[17:06] <shrek1> pr0xy: i am using 11.10. In U10.11 there was an option "after mouse right click" to put the icon on desktop. can i do it  here?
[17:07] <shrek1> also, i want to
[17:08] <pedro_> Hi from Vienna
[17:09] <Nihilism> Welcher Bezirk?:)
[17:11] <ubuntu> is there a adobe flash for x86 11.10?
[17:11] <edbian> !flash
[17:12] <edbian> ubuntu, see that link ^^
[17:12] <ubuntu> it doesn't say
[17:12] <edbian> ubuntu, it does, scroll down a bit
[17:13] <ubuntu> thats x86
[17:13] <xangua> sudo apt-get install flashplugin-installer ubuntu
[17:13] <ubuntu> no such package
[17:13] <edbian> ubuntu, read the link I gave you
[17:13] <ubuntu> it doesn't talk about 11.10
[17:14] <edbian> ubuntu, It's the same procedure
[17:14] <ubuntu> what the heck is Ubuntu Softawre Center
[17:14] <edbian> ...
[17:14] <edbian> really
[17:14] <ubuntu> it doesn't even have a link
[17:15] <ubuntu> to waht it is
[17:16] <edbian> u in unity?
[17:16] <edbian> ubuntu, are you in unity?
[17:16] <ubuntu> what is that
[17:16] <edbian> ubuntu, on the left side of the screen is there a bar of icons with firefox and such on it?
[17:16] <ubuntu> yeah
[17:16] <edbian> ubuntu, You're using unity which is a GUI
[17:17] <edbian> ubuntu, now, click the ubuntu thing (top icon) search for ubuntu software center and run it
[17:17] <ubuntu> funny how buggy it is
[17:17] <edbian> ubuntu, yes, it's hilarious
[17:17] <ubuntu> try to install flash plugin and you get bunch of errors
[17:17] <edbian> ubuntu, how did you try to install it?  What errors did you get?
[17:17] <gaby> hello - i  just installed ubuntu 11.10 now on my dell inspiron 1525 and i cant work with the WIFI - any help please
[17:18] <ubuntu> depencies not resolved
[17:18] <ubuntu> and about failed apt-get fetches
[17:18] <ubuntu> W: Failed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/oneiric/Release  Unable to find expected entry 'contrib/binary-amd64/Packages' in Release file (Wrong sources.list entry or malformed file)
[17:19] <ubuntu> they have wrong sources in the sources.list
[17:19] <andygraybeal> what kernel is expected in 12.04?
[17:19] <gaby>  hello - i  just installed ubuntu 11.10 now on my dell inspiron 1525 and i cant work with the WIFI - any help please
[17:19] <xangua> !pangolin | andygraybeal
[17:19] <ubuntu> and yeah the depencies
[17:19] <edbian> ubuntu, mmm, apparently.  Can you pastebin your /etc/sources.list     ?
[17:19] <andygraybeal> thank you xangua
[17:19] <edbian> ubuntu, Did you get ubuntu software center open?
[17:19] <ubuntu> not gonna be met for flash
[17:19] <ubuntu> gah
[17:19] <ubuntu> yeaj
[17:19] <Guest56466> hey
[17:19] <mang0> ubuntu: That's probably not the best nick to have XD You'll get pinged/highlighted/triggered all the time
[17:19] <edbian> gabnet, hang on a second
[17:19] <Guest56466> guys is there wine room
[17:19] <gaby>  hello - i  just installed ubuntu 11.10 now on my dell inspiron 1525 and i cant work with the WIFI - any help please
[17:19] <edbian> #winehq
[17:20] <xangua> !appdb | Guest56466
[17:20] <edbian> gaby, wait a second!
[17:20] <ubuntu> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[17:20] <ubuntu> flashplugin-installer: Depends: flashplugin-downloader (>= 11.0.1.152ubuntu1) but it is a virtual package Depends: nspluginwrapper but it is not going to be installed
[17:20] <edbian> ubuntu, can you pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list  ??
[17:20] <xangua> gaby: some detaild would help instead of repeating every 30 seconds
[17:20] <gaby> edbian : ok
[17:20] <ubuntu> and this is a fresh image
[17:20] <ubuntu> freshly booted
[17:20] <Guest56466> hey edbian
[17:20] <ubuntu> and its already broken
[17:20] <Guest56466> winehq
[17:20] <edbian> ubuntu, I'm trying to figure this out
[17:21] <Guest56466> oki tnx
[17:21] <gaby> what detail
[17:21] <edbian> ubuntu, do you have your /etc/apt/sources.list yet?
[17:22] <xangua> !partner | ubuntu enable the partner repo and then: sudo apt-get install adobe-flashplugin
[17:22] <scroverty> Hi all! Is there any solution to disable laptop's DVD/CD rom on ubuntu?.. since I forgot Bios setup-pass...
[17:22] <edbian> xangua, is that was has to be done to install flash now?
[17:23] <volchok> Question: Does anybody know how to fix the resolution for the graphical boot splash  on startup for Ubuntu?
[17:23] <ubuntu> someone paste me a working source.list
[17:23] <ubuntu> that has all the necessary crap
[17:23] <xangua> edbian: looks like flashplugin is on partners only now
[17:23] <edbian> ubuntu, do what ubottu said
[17:23] <ubuntu> yeah that didnt work
[17:23] <edbian> xangua, that is not smart.  They expect every person to run that command to get flash?
[17:24] <xangua> !doesntwork | ubuntu
[17:24] <gaby>  hello - i  just installed ubuntu 11.10 now on my dell inspiron 1525 and i cant work with the WIFI - any help please
[17:24] <xangua> edbian: no idea, i don't use oneiric but i use flash from partners
[17:24] <edbian> gaby, do you know what pastebin is?
[17:24] <ubuntu> its the same errro
[17:24] <jutnux> gaby: Plug the laptop into the ethernet and go into additional drivers.
[17:24] <ubuntu> The following information may help to resolve the situation:
[17:24] <ubuntu> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[17:24] <ubuntu>  flashplugin-downloader:i386 : Depends: libnspr4-0d:i386 but it is not installable
[17:24] <ubuntu>                                Recommends: libasound2-plugins:i386 (>= 1.0.16) but it is not going to be installed
[17:24] <ubuntu>  flashplugin-installer : Depends: nspluginwrapper but it is not installable
[17:24] <FloodBot1> ubuntu: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:25] <ubuntu> E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.
[17:25] <gaby> guide  me and i will do it
[17:25] <edbian> ubuntu, sudo apt-get -f install
[17:25] <gaby> jutnux: i did
[17:25] <gaby> and ?
[17:26] <edbian> ubuntu, what's it doing?
[17:26] <ubuntu> i dontknow
[17:26] <edbian> ubuntu, pastebin it
[17:26] <ubuntu> how
[17:26] <mcbaine1> merry twilmas ...   http://goo.gl/SDPyJ
[17:26] <edbian> ubuntu, paste.ubuntu.com
[17:26] <ubuntu> give me a CLI to do it
[17:27] <edbian> ubuntu, ?  You have the gui
[17:27] <ubuntu> im so fucking drunk
[17:27] <mcbaine1> oh dear..
[17:27] <gaby> edbian - any help ?
[17:27] <edbian> forget this
[17:27] <edbian> gaby, yes! :)
[17:27] <ubuntu> ill have some more of christmas wine
[17:27] <mcbaine1> gaby.. try posting on Y!ahoo answers if possible...    :)
[17:27] <all-free> hi
[17:28] <edbian> gaby, run this command: sudo lspci -k       and copy / paste the output into this site: paste.ubuntu.com   and give me the link to the page it goes to when you submit
[17:28] <gaby> edbian - guide me what to do please
[17:28] <edbian> gaby, patience :)
[17:28] <edbian> mcbaine1, very funny
[17:28] <all-free> anyone can help to customize ubuntu boot image please? I am trying to do the same thing : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1608621
[17:29] <all-free> Just i want to replace http://img225.imageshack.us/i/1stscreen.png
[17:31] <all-free> anyone please?
[17:31] <DaViD_k> Boa tarde :)
[17:31] <DaViD_k> Alguém aqui entende de DATACOM?
[17:31] <all-free> ?
[17:31] <all-free> what?
[17:31] <DaViD_k> Op´s sorry
[17:32] <Thales> Hello, I'm trying to load my network card module (r8101), but it fails with the following message: "FATAL: module r8101 not found". Anyone can explain that?
[17:32] <ayaka> does audacious support cue index?
[17:32] <Thales> I downloaded the driver from realtek official website
[17:32] <mongy> Thales:  try rtl-8101 ?
[17:33] <DaViD_k> Does anyone here know about DATACOM?
[17:33] <mongy> ayaka, yes
[17:33] <ayaka> mongy, but I tried to open a one failed
[17:34] <Thales> mongy: if you download the driver from realtek official website, you'll see that in the package contains a script (autorun.sh) to load automatically the module...
[17:34] <ubuntu_lappy> Installing Ubuntu, and I'm specifying partitions manually.  I've already made swap and ext4 partitions.  Do I only need to specify the ext4 as / and the swap as swap?  Or is there anything else I should do before continuing?
[17:34] <Thales> mongy: so, all you need to do is to execute, as root, that script
[17:35] <mongy> ayaka, hmm, might be something included inthe webupd8 ppa version then
[17:35] <omid> how can i unnstall ati propritary drivers(installed using amd's .run installer)?
[17:35] <mongy> Thales, sudo insmod r8101 ?
[17:35] <ayaka> mongy, in fact this file include some unicode
[17:35] <mongy> Thales, then sudo modprobe r8101
[17:36] <mongy> Thales, might be called rtl8101 or rtl-8101 though.  idk
[17:37] <nixmaniack> hi, I'm unable to get Wireless working on My Toshiba C650. No Network controller is listed in 'lspci', but it was listed when I first installed new kernel but after reboot it's gone.
[17:37] <wurschti> I'm trying to connect a 2nd monitor to my notebook, but it doesn't get recognized (in xrandr, that is). I've also already installed the nvidia-current driver. any ideas on how to troubleshoot this?
[17:38] <edbian> nixmaniack, use the older kernel
[17:39] <mongy> ayaka, I just looked in audacious and in the playlist plugins support there is cue
[17:39] <nixmaniack> edbian, but it's working only for one boot with evry kernel, then it goes away
[17:39] <ayaka> mongy, I see may it can't work thank you
[17:40] <edbian> nixmaniack, weird.  What card is it?
[17:40] <ayaka> is there game cheat(ram editor) in linux?
[17:40] <nixmaniack> edbian, Atheros
[17:41] <Xaifas> Merry Xmas folks!
[17:41]  * DarkXPhenomenon is a babbling maniac...
[17:44] <wurschti> anyone?
[17:44] <suicideblonde> org
[17:55] <all-free> Guys anyone of you can help me please : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1899829  ?
[17:56] <linux-boy> Guys anyone of you can help me please : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1899829
[18:01] <Oer> !remaster | linux-boy
[18:02] <linux-boy> Oer, I already tried them
[18:03] <Oer> so, what is your problem ?
[18:03] <linux-boy> I want replace the boot splash only : http://img225.imageshack.us/i/1stscreen.png
[18:04] <linux-boy> Still i don't know how to do it
[18:04] <linux-boy> after read this tutorial https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallCDCustomization I can customize the iso but can't replace the boot image yet
[18:05] <Deltatash> Hi is anyone available to help me with a graphics issue ?
[18:06] <linux-boy> Oer, I have told my issue on the forum... can you help me with that please?
[18:07] <Deltatash> I go to System > Administration > Hardware Drivers then I select "ATI/AMD proprietry FGLRX Graphics driver then I click Activate then I get this error that does not allow me to install the driver :s
[18:07] <Deltatash> Sorry, the installation of this driver failed.
[18:07] <Deltatash> Please have a look at the log file for details.: /var/log/jockey.log
[18:07] <Deltatash> any ideas ?
[18:07] <Seveas> Deltatash, have you looked at that logfile?
[18:07] <Deltatash> yes and I cant figure out the problem
[18:08] <Seveas> pastebin it
[18:08] <Deltatash> ok
[18:08] <Deltatash> 1 sec
[18:08] <mongy> Deltatash, sudo apt-get clean ; sudo apt-get install --reinstall fglrx
[18:09] <Oer> linux-boy, i can't help you with customize splash on live-cd
[18:10] <linux-boy> np
[18:10] <Oer> linux-boy, the turorials should work
[18:10] <Deltatash> pastebin dont seem to work ill find an alternative, it wont load lol
[18:10] <Deltatash> mongy: I will try that thanks :)
[18:10] <TiMiDo> nice i got a brand new computer for Xmas
[18:10] <linux-boy> Oer, which tutorial?
[18:10] <TiMiDo> hope fully going to fix more bugs ;P
[18:10] <mongy> Deltatash,  it's worth a try at least.
[18:11] <Seveas> Deltatash, paste.ubuntu.com / paste.pocoo.org
[18:11] <insectatorious> TiMiDo: processor?
[18:11] <Deltatash> here you go Seveas:
[18:11] <mongy> Deltatash, check the log as seveas said if it doesn't work
[18:11] <Deltatash> https://gist.github.com/1517970
[18:12] <Deltatash> did that link work Seveas
[18:12] <Deltatash> if not ill try the paste.ubuntu.com or paste.pocoo.org
[18:13] <Deltatash> mongy with your command line I get "Running module version sanity check.
[18:13] <Deltatash> ERROR: modinfo: could not open /lib/modules/2.6.32-37-generic-pae/updates/dkms/fglrx.ko: Invalid argument
[18:13] <Deltatash> ERROR: modinfo: could not open /lib/modules/2.6.32-37-generic-pae/updates/dkms/fglrx.ko: Invalid argument
[18:13] <Deltatash> "
[18:13] <FloodBot1> Deltatash: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:13] <Seveas> Deltatash, yeah, link works
[18:13] <Deltatash> ok :)
[18:13] <coni500> hi!
[18:14] <DarkXPhenomenon> hey!
[18:14] <Seveas> Deltatash, install linux-restricted-modules-generic-pae and fglrx
[18:14] <Deltatash> inside synaptic packet manager?
[18:14] <Seveas> yeah
[18:14] <Deltatash> ok will do that now
[18:14] <coni500> Merry Christmas!
[18:15] <Seveas> merry christmas coni500. How can we help you?
[18:15] <Deltatash> Seveas, I dont have linux-restricted-modules-generic-pae in my synaptic packet manager :s
[18:15] <Deltatash> I have fglrx but no linux-restricted-modules-generic-pae
[18:17] <Seveas> Deltatash, looks like I'm a bit behind the times, just fglrx is enough
[18:17] <Deltatash> ok
[18:17] <Deltatash> Should i restart now fglrx is installed ? for it to take effect?
[18:17] <bastidrazor> Deltatash: just log out then back in. no need to do a full reboot
[18:17] <Seveas> try jockey again now that fglrx is installed
[18:17] <Seveas> it should work better now
[18:18] <Deltatash> ok so the usual? System > Administration > Hardware drivers?
[18:19] <Deltatash> ok it installed the properiety driver np this time and now says you may need to restart the computer for changes to take effect
[18:19] <Deltatash> just log out and in is enough then yeah  ?
[18:19] <bastidrazor> Deltatash: yes.
[18:19] <Deltatash> ok i will brb and let you know if it worked :) brb
[18:19] <Deltatash> than ks for your time btw :)
[18:21] <Deltatash> guys it worked it now says in hardware drivers that the driver is installed and in use :)
[18:22] <Deltatash> hmm my windows still seem a bit jerky when I move them about the screen though :s
[18:22] <Deltatash> this system is screwed up since it updated yesterday :( it was orginnally using the open source driver and everything was working perfect
[18:23] <Deltatash> I enabled Proprietry driver for a game in Wine and then ubuntu installed some kernal updates and now my graphics is just screwed :/
[18:23] <mongy> Deltatash, it was a little jerky on  mine when I used fglrx in unity..  have you disabled vsync in ccsm?
[18:23] <Deltatash> how do I disable them mongy?
[18:23] <Deltatash> i am on Ubuntu 10.4 btw with gnome 2
[18:24] <rorre> Hello, I have two questions for you guys.  I have never used ubuntu before, and I just finished installing 11.10.  When I restarted my system, Ubuntu was my only boot option in GRUB, even though I had selected install alongside my other operating system.  Is this a bug of some sort, or am I missing something?
[18:25] <DarkXPhenomenon> rorre: you can add the other OS back...
[18:25] <mongy> Deltatash, is your driver enabled and working then?
[18:25] <DarkXPhenomenon> rorre: which was your other OS?
[18:25] <rorre> DarkXPhenomenon: It was another Linux distribution.
[18:25] <Deltatash> yeah it says its installed and in use
[18:25] <DarkXPhenomenon> rorre: Grub or Lilo?
[18:25] <Deltatash> just I expected the window movement to be a little more smooth not so rough
[18:25] <mongy> Deltatash, sudo apt-get install compizconfig-settings-manager
[18:26] <Deltatash> it plays video fine but moving a window is almost like it has no driver installed :/
[18:26] <DarkXPhenomenon> rorre: add the bootloader entry from grub... menu.lst
[18:26] <Deltatash> thanks ill run that now
[18:26] <ayaka> is there game cheat(ram editor) in linux?
[18:26] <mongy> Deltatash, run it and look in the OpenGL plugin and sync to vblank, disable it.
[18:26] <Deltatash> ok
[18:27] <urlin2u> rorre, run sudo update-grub in ubuntu and see if the other OS shows.
[18:27] <Deltatash> ok it installed cant seem to open the program though lol
[18:27] <Deltatash> or does it need to beopened from terminal ?
[18:28] <rorre> urlin2u: Oh, running that mentioned the other Linux distribution, so it's probably on the list now.  That was easy.
[18:28] <Deltatash> nvm found it lol
[18:28] <mongy> Deltatash, cant remember if its in Accessories or System menu.
[18:28] <urlin2u> rorre, cool.
[18:28] <Deltatash> I am inside but dont seen an OpenGL plugin :s
[18:28] <rorre> DarkXPhenomenon: I couldn't find menu.1st but urlin2u's suggestion may solve that issue.  Thanks!
[18:29] <mongy> Deltatash, hmm, its in oe of the first section of plugins.  Ages since I used 10.4
[18:29] <mongy> oe=one
[18:29] <Deltatash> nope not there :s
[18:29] <rorre> I'm going ot check it out and see if it's on my grub menu now, brb and thanks DarkXPhenomenon urlin2u
[18:29] <netraameht> join #vbox
[18:29] <Seveas> Deltatash, ccsm won't help you as you're using gnome 2 and not compiz :)
[18:29] <Deltatash> I think im gonna have to reformat :/ just to get my graphics working fluently again :( freaking update broke my system...
[18:30] <Deltatash> to go back to my open source driver I just go into hardware drivers and remove the the proprietry one right ?
[18:30] <Deltatash> will see if my open source driver still works as smoothly as it did
[18:30] <ayaka> mongy, thank you
[18:31] <mongy> Deltatash, its there somewhere.. keep looking.
[18:31] <netraameht> Hey can somebody help me? Im in use of VBox and I want to install Win XP (prof.
[18:31] <urlin2u> netraameht, whats the problem.
[18:32] <netraameht> Its asking for formatting, urlin2u
[18:32] <urlin2u> netraameht, the XP can format it in custom format.
[18:32] <Deltatash> brb relogging again to test something
[18:33] <urlin2u> netraameht, when do you get the asking for format?
[18:33] <netraameht> urlin2u, in the Windows install screen
[18:33] <netraameht> a blue screen
[18:33] <Seveas> netraameht, windows support in ##windows please.
[18:34] <netraameht> its not for windows, its for Ubuntu
[18:34] <rorre> urlin2u: Grub did not add an entry for my other Linux distro when I rebooted.
[18:34] <Seveas> you're installing windows, you need windows support :)
[18:34] <netraameht> Seveas, no, I need VBox support!
[18:35] <Seveas> netraameht, why? vbox works fine and is booting the windows installer. At that point it's windows support :)
[18:35] <urlin2u> netraameht, it doesn't have a partition table that my be the problem, are you familiar with using the XP disc?
[18:35] <Deltatash> guys
[18:35] <Deltatash> I done the things you asked me
[18:35] <netraameht> Seveas, urlin2u, so I can just select Format?
[18:35] <Seveas> netraameht, ask in ##windows
[18:35] <mongy> netraameht, just format it as ntfs.
[18:35] <Deltatash> and fiddled with a few settings tbh the fiddling i done i have no  idea what i done but i restarted and works fine now :)
[18:36] <Deltatash> thanks for your help guys :)
[18:36] <netraameht> ok
[18:36] <Seveas> Deltatash, np, glad we could help
[18:36] <Deltatash> :D
[18:36] <mongy> netraameht, google 'how to install xp'  or goto ##windows
[18:36] <netraameht> I chosed your option xD
[18:36] <Deltatash> dunno what the update changed to screw me over like this though lol xD
[18:36] <netraameht> hope it works
[18:36] <urlin2u> rorre, what is the other OS, and did you remove any partitions or resize any with the install?
[18:36] <Deltatash> but one last question
[18:37] <dario> !ciao
[18:37] <netraameht> whahaha, I saw an epic game in the Ubuntu software center xD
[18:37] <dario> \list
[18:37] <urlin2u> netraameht, yeah, your in the virtual machine it wont affect the host.
[18:37] <Deltatash> if I go into hardware drivers and click "remove" that will automatically default me back to the open source driver if i ever need it right ?
[18:37] <mongy> DeltaEpsilon, yes.
[18:37] <netraameht> urlin2u, op
[18:37] <netraameht> urlin2u, ok*
[18:37] <rorre> urlin2u: The other OS is Linux, and I selected the option to 'install alongside' ubuntu, and had no manual partition interaction.  Ubuntu decided to install itself onto one of my empty hard drives
[18:37] <netraameht> 35%
[18:38] <DeltaEpsilon> any one knows a good alternative to Navicat?
[18:38] <mongy> Deltatash, yes.
[18:38] <JoshR1> Hello
[18:38] <Deltatash> ok cool, thanks :)
[18:38] <rorre> urlin2u: it didn't ask me which drive to install to, which i thought was odd, but I didn't really care since it just chose a blank drive.
[18:38] <JoshR1> How can I get a share to maintain between resets in 11.10?
[18:38] <netraameht> Any way to get Mono 2.8?
[18:38] <Deltatash> Anyway I need to go eat  :P thanks a lot guys you saved my ass xD :P
[18:38] <Deltatash> cya
[18:38] <mongy> Deltatash,  http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Lucid_Installation_Guide#Installing_the_drivers_manually is a simple to follow guide for installing the latest driver, if you feel the need.
[18:38] <Seveas> DeltaEpsilon, isn't that the query browser?
[18:39] <Deltatash> ohh nice I will save that link and read later thanks :D
[18:39] <shomon> hi, I can't get rhythmbox to copy files into my ipod nano... is there a trick to it?
[18:39] <shomon> it copies fine to an ipod mini...
[18:39] <Deltatash> cya :)
[18:39] <urlin2u> rorre, sounds like the grub bootloader is in the other discs mbr possibly, is this a master slave ide setup?
[18:39] <DarkXPhenomenonX> rorre: fixed?
[18:39] <netraameht> Hey, is there any way to get Mono 2.8?
[18:39] <rorre> urlin2u: it's all SATA, but yes, grub seems to be installed on 'sda' while ubuntu is on 'sdf'
[18:40] <Amaroks> Hi Guys
[18:40] <urlin2u> rorre, you can from the ubuntu install to its mbr is this a raid?
[18:40] <rorre> DarkXPhenomenonX: not yet.  I was hoping the grub update command would have worked, but it's still not
[18:40] <Amaroks> I got windows 7 and installed ubuntu side by side I used to see windows partition on ubuntu and access it , not anymore, any Idea?
[18:41] <rorre> urlin2u: sda and sdf are both unraided disks
[18:41] <xangua> !grub2 | Amaroks
[18:41] <rorre> sdb,sdc,sed,sef are all software raided
[18:41] <rorre> urlin2u: ^
[18:41] <shomon> can anyone suggest any other software that can copy files to and from an ipod on ubuntu?
[18:41] <Amaroks> I did not install windows after
[18:41] <Amaroks> Windows was there and still there but simple reinstalled ubuntu and since thene I dont see the partitions in ubuntu
[18:42] <seidos> does anybody know how to write a script, or have code, that will mute speakers on hibernating?
[18:42] <urlin2u> rorre, run sudo fdisk -l to confirm the ubuntu install disc then run sudo grub-install /dev/sdX    then run the update-grub the X is the HD with no number .
[18:42] <Ryllez89> Guys, how to put my wife user to run virtualbox emulating Windows automatically on logon?
[18:42] <xangua> Amaroks: you don't see the partition as in you deleted windows partition then installing ubuntu¿
[18:43] <rorre> urlin2u: so grub-install to the disk that ubunto is installed onto or to the first disk that the computer tries to boot?
[18:44] <urlin2u> rorre, I would put it in the HD where ubuntu is.
[18:44] <urlin2u> rorre, if ubuntu is the sdf then the command and X=f
[18:44] <Amaroks> No  I did not remove windows its still there and I use it sometmes
[18:44] <JoshR1> How can I get a persistent share between reboots?
[18:44] <mongy> Ryllez89,  add to startup apps, VirtualBox -startvm "name of vm"
[18:45] <rorre> Just as a generic aside, is teh root password scrambled by default on ubuntu installs or is it set to something in particular?
[18:45] <Ryllez89> mongy, where i find the startup apps?
[18:45] <Seveas> JoshR1, what do you mean with "persistent share"?
[18:45] <urlin2u> rorre, we have a bootscript that is used.. to see more info if needed, if tis does not fix it.
[18:45] <mongy> Ryllez89, top right corner icon, click it, choose startup applications
[18:45] <netraameht> mono 2.8?
[18:46] <rorre> urlin2u: rebooting now, let's see what happens
[18:46] <JoshR1> Every time I update my file server and need to restart my raid is no longer shared and I have to go back and set it to share again.
[18:46] <Ryllez89> mongy, but i can add on my wife user? now im using my user
[18:46] <Seveas> Ryllez89, log in as her and then add it
[18:46] <Ryllez89> her user will have permission to use the VM?
[18:47] <mongy> Ryllez89,  you might have to add her to the vboxusers group for shared foldes and usb access..
[18:47] <DeltaEpsilon> Seveas, yes, it is
[18:48] <Seveas> DeltaEpsilon, mysql-navigator may work for you then
[18:49] <Ryllez89> mongy, u can tell me how i do this?
[18:49] <mongy> Ryllez89, just login as her and add to startup. worry about the group permission laer, she might not need it.
[18:49] <Seveas> Ryllez89, sudo gpasswd -a her_loginname vboxusers
[18:50] <DeltaEpsilon> Looks like development has been dead for 7+ years.
[18:50] <DeltaEpsilon> Seveas, ^^
[18:50] <DeltaEpsilon> not a good alternative
[18:50] <netraameht> O - M - G, Win XP looks really old!
[18:50] <Seveas> DeltaEpsilon, that's why I said "might". I don't use a gui for databases so I didn't know how bad it was :)
[18:50] <Ryllez89> thank you!!!
[18:51] <mongy> netraameht, 10 yrs is a long time
[18:51] <edbian> Ryllez89, usermod -a -G <group> <user>   how to add an existing user to an existing group
[18:51] <edbian> darnit
[18:51] <Seveas> edbian, gpasswd or useradd are easier to remember ;)
[18:51] <netraameht> mongy, I cant find my Win 7 disk, so I used a Win XP ISO, But im happy that it works!
[18:51] <edbian> Seveas, yeah, I had to look that one up
[18:52] <edbian> windows xp is old
[18:52] <edbian> Seveas, hello btw :)
[18:52] <netraameht> edbian, yea!
[18:52] <Seveas> ohai
[18:52] <rorre> urlin2u: no luck
[18:52] <edbian> come in, see this, wat do?
[18:52] <Marezz> Hi folks, whats better in ur opinion, gnome mplayer or vlc?
[18:53] <JoshR1> VLC
[18:53] <xangua> !better | Marezz
[18:53] <Seveas> mplayer with libcaca as backend
[18:53] <edbian> Marezz, I like vlc
[18:54] <urlin2u> Amaroks, do you have a windows disc to run a chkdsk from, and have you run a sudo update-grub
[18:54] <trinikrono> how do i change unity menu items say to add one to the launcher
[18:55] <mongy> Seveas, sounds familiar.. is that the ascii output?
[18:55] <edbian> trinikrono, drag the icon you want onto the launcher
[18:55] <Marezz> btw does Unity work with AMD Catalyst?
[18:55] <yanmorin> after a distro-upgrade to oneiric, some launcher icon and nautilus are missing...  any idea?
[18:55] <edbian> Marezz, at the very least unity 2D works with anything
[18:56] <edbian> Marezz, I don't know if unity 3D works with AMD (probably)
[18:56] <yanmorin> by missing = the shortcut is there with a blank icon
[18:56] <urlin2u> rorre, so what is the the other linux some run with lilo and are harder to work with.
[18:56] <Marezz> edbian, is there a big difference between those 2 modes?
[18:56] <mongy> Marezz, yes.
[18:56] <rorre> urlin2u: It was grub.
[18:56] <rorre> urlin2u: Funtoo =D
[18:56] <Seveas> mongy, ascii with ansi color codes
[18:57] <urlin2u> rorre, so when you ran the install command you ran the update to as well?
[18:58] <rorre> urlin2u: I'm not sure what you mean.
[18:59] <rorre> Why does it feel like tab-completion is funky on Ubuntu.  like if I type /dev/md<tab> it complets to md3 even though there's md md1 md3 md5 etc
[18:59] <Seveas> rorre, then you've changed something yourself, that's not the normal behaviour
[18:59] <urlin2u> rorre I had you run sudo grun-install /dev/sdX did you run the sudo update-grub before rebooting?
[18:59] <urlin2u> grub*
[19:00] <rorre> Seveas: Knoppix does it too, I thought it was a user-friendly thing.  I've changed nothing besides adding kvirc, this is a fresh install :(
[19:00] <rorre> urlin2u: nope
[19:01] <UnderSampled|ta1> Hello
[19:01] <UnderSampled|ta1> I'm running ubuntu 11.04, and am trying to get my penabled tablet working
[19:01] <UnderSampled|ta1> now, it's not quite as simple as a normal tabletPC, because I actually took the digitizer out of a different computer and am using it on a usb to serial convertor
[19:01] <UnderSampled|ta1> the question is, how do I force ubuntu to use the digitizer on /dev/ttyUSB0
[19:01] <UnderSampled|ta1> as it won't be able to detect it the normal way
[19:01] <FloodBot1> UnderSampled|ta1: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:01] <rorre> urlin2u: I hadn't run update after, should I try rebooting once again?
[19:01] <urlin2u> rorre, okay run it now that you always do it reset the grub menu, also the sdf hard drive has to be first read to work as well in the bios,
[19:02] <Kal_Zakath> merry xmas, lamers
[19:02] <Kal_Zakath> :)
[19:03] <subman> I just installed Ubuntu on my netbook and although when I first booted off of the usb stick, wireless and the touchpad worked just fine but now that it is installed, my touchpad does not work at all neither does the wireless.  any fixes for these big errors?  Lubuntu installed and worked just fine.
[19:03] <urlin2u> rorre, that all make sense you know j=how to get to the bios or use a key prompt usually f12 to get a boot from menu.
[19:03] <shomon> I have a 1gb ipod nano. Where can I get help on copying stuff to it in ubuntu?
[19:03] <urlin2u> j= is you* rorre
[19:04] <shomon> I've tried with rhythmbox, banshee and gtkbox...
[19:06] <Taj_> k, im officially baffled
[19:06] <Taj_> i now have 3 boxes running ubuntu 11.10
[19:06] <Taj_> and two of them can see each other and this one and share files accordingly
[19:07] <Taj_> but this one can't see either of the other two
[19:07] <zxy_64> TiMiDo, i fixed it with editing modelines in xorg.conf
[19:07] <Taj_> any thoughts?
[19:07] <zxy_64> thx for help anyway
[19:08] <UnderSampled|ta1> Hello, I'm running ubuntu 11.04, and am trying to get my penabled tablet working. It's not quite as simple as a normal tabletPC, because I actually took the digitizer out of a different computer and am using it on a usb to serial converter. How do I force ubuntu to use the digitizer on /dev/ttyUSB0 ? Ubuntu won't be able to detect it the normal way.
[19:09] <Seveas> Taj_, can the third one ping the other 2?
[19:10] <urlin2u> UnderSampled|ta1, sounds like you might like the ##hardware channel as a backup
[19:10] <Taj_> idk
[19:10] <UnderSampled|ta1> urlin2u: I can try
[19:11] <Taj_> whats the easiest way to do ping them?
[19:13] <omid> hi please help me
[19:13] <omid> i installed ATI propritary fglrx drivers using the .run file from AMD's official website
[19:13] <Taj_> hmmm update, they are listed when i put smbtree in
[19:13] <omid> now i have screen glitches too much. how can i uninstall that driver
[19:16] <philpem> I'm trying to build the CVS version of Gutenprint on a Launchpad PPA -- I've got it building locally but the build server is barfing when it builds the docs.
[19:16] <philpem> Build log is here: https://launchpadlibrarian.net/88349571/buildlog_ubuntu-oneiric-amd64.gutenprint_5.2.7cvs20111224a-philpem3_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz
[19:16] <amaroks> Hi
[19:16] <philpem> Seems to be a problem with Openjade -- "openjade:/build/buildd/gutenprint-5.2.7cvs20111224a/debian/build/doc/developer/gutenprint.xml:13:0:E: host "www.oasis-open.org" not found"
[19:16] <philpem> Can anyone suggest how I might be able to fix this?
[19:16] <amaroks> Guys everytime I reboot, the quick lunch menu disappear and top right menu
[19:17] <amaroks> and I have to do unity --reset to get things looking good again
[19:17] <fidy> anyone in here run Zenix?
[19:24] <yanmorin> is it supposed to look like that? http://yansanmo.progysm.com/photos/ps/linux/ubuntu-oneiric-noicon.png ?
[19:25] <Seveas>  yanmorin not really
[19:26] <Seveas> you've done something weird with your theme
[19:26] <yanmorin> I've update two time in a row
[19:26] <fidy> anyone here run Zenix
[19:26] <yanmorin> It was like that after the second upgrade
[19:27] <yanmorin> maybe it's a icon-cache problem... in .local?
[19:28] <mongy> yanmorin, maybe install gnome-tweak-tool and set your icon theme again
[19:29] <yanmorin> mongy, I will try that, but what is the default icon theme?
[19:29] <Seveas> ubuntu mono dark
[19:29] <mongy> yanmorin, or maybe reinstall ubuntu-mono
[19:30] <yanmorin> wow, there is a lot of package with gnome-tweek-tool..
[19:30] <mongy> aye :(
[19:31] <Kal_Zakath> do you know GPL apps dedicateds to train drivers (engineers end such...) ??
[19:31] <yanmorin> oh, now I have all  icons.. maybe it was in gnome-icon-theme-full (not installed)
[19:31] <yanmorin> or gnome-themes-standard
[19:34] <yanmorin> mongy thanks, now it looks like that: http://yansanmo.progysm.com/photos/ps/linux/ubuntu-oneiric-withicon-gnome-tweak-tool.png  (just by installing the package)
[19:34] <Aka> merry christamahanikwansika everyone
[19:37] <ubuntu> good day all
[19:37] <Seveas> happy saturday Aka
[19:38] <ubuntu> just trying out this version of ubuntu i think i like it
[19:41] <Aka> doh I was gonna ask him which version he was liking
[19:41] <Aka> ok well I guess I'm gonna go I've got some studying to do before I go rock it on BF3
[19:42] <Aka> later folks
[19:46] <idsme> helle everybody
[19:47] <idsme> i have a quistion about installing a adaptec raid card into ubuntu, it;s only voor suse and red hat
[19:47] <idsme> anyone can help me?
[19:56] <kasii> hi all
[19:57] <kasii> am asking for any documentation concern java programming
[19:58] <Seveas> kasii, try #java
[19:58] <kasii> am new in java programming
[19:59] <kasii> so would you help me
[19:59] <Seveas> no
[19:59] <Seveas> this channel is for ubuntu support, not java help
[19:59] <mang0> !ot | kasii
[19:59] <kasii> cause it took much time for me to understand the program
[19:59] <mang0> kasii: Type "/join #java"
[19:59] <kasii> okay let me join
[20:00] <kasii> in java
[20:00] <Kal_Zakath_> google ?
[20:00] <Kal_Zakath_> (just in case...)
[20:01] <dextre009> hi
[20:02] <dextre009> can anyone help me out with vim editor please?
[20:03] <Hero> Hello there
[20:03] <mang0> kasii: If you want to join #java channel, type this in a message to us, and press send: /join ##java
[20:04] <kasii> i didnt get you mango
[20:05] <mongy> dextre009, how?
[20:06] <dextre009> I want to turn on syntax highlighting, but just for specific file types
[20:06] <Kal_Zakath_> no possible
[20:06] <dextre009> for example just for .java files
[20:07] <Kal_Zakath_> ubuntu is an OS for gays, and gays don't want syntax highlighting
[20:07] <dextre009> it is not possible?
[20:07] <Kal_Zakath_> not unless you are gay
[20:08] <tonesfrommars> dextre009: head over to #vim, they'll help you there.
[20:08] <philpem> dextre009, :set syntax on
[20:08] <trism> philpem: I haven't looked to closely, but if you notice, doc/developer is already built in the ubuntu package, so you make want to pre-build it before uploading since it won't be able to fetch that file when building on launchpad
[20:08] <tonesfrommars> I don't know for sure if that's possible.
[20:08] <tonesfrommars> Chances are it is, but you'll have to set up vim.rc to make it happen
[20:08] <dr_willis> the default vim used to be 'vim tiny' you need the vim full package for syntax hightlighting to work.
[20:09] <philpem> dextre009, sorry. got that wrong. looking up my vimrc
[20:09] <dextre009> philpem, I did that, but now I get syntax highlighting in .conf files too, which is really annoying
[20:09] <philpem> dextre009, sounds like you want to make it per-file then?
[20:09] <dr_willis> Theres ways to put comments in specific files to set vim settings for that file dextre009  i belive.
[20:09] <philpem> for that you need an autocmd in your vimrc
[20:09] <Seveas> decoder, it's possible: au filetype java :syntax on
[20:09] <Seveas> dextre009*
[20:10] <Kal_Zakath_> uselees
[20:10] <philpem> dextre009, to disable syntax highlighting for conf files, :autocmd conf syntax off
[20:10] <dextre009> Seveas, should I put that in my ~/.vimrc ?
[20:10] <Seveas> dextre009, yes.
[20:10] <Kal_Zakath_> nope
[20:10] <Kal_Zakath_> in ~/.gay
[20:10] <Spacewalker> ?
[20:10] <philpem> dextre009, try again... autocmd FileType conf :syntax off
[20:11] <philpem> will disable syntax-hilight for conf files
[20:11] <philpem> dextre009, what Seveas said will enable it only for java files
[20:11] <tonesfrommars> dextre009: look up *:syn-files*
[20:11] <tonesfrommars> apparently you can specify highlighting per filetype.
[20:11] <philpem> trism, I figured that'd be one option
[20:11] <Spacewalker> Kal_Zakath_: As far as I know, syntax highlighting doesn't have anything to do with being gay.
[20:12] <Kal_Zakath_> of course it does
[20:12] <philpem> trism, what I'd like to know is which commands the gutenprint dev team use to make the release tarballs from CVS
[20:12] <Seveas> Spacewalker, depends on the colorscheme you use. A gay friend of mine definitely has a matching colorscheme :-)
[20:12] <philpem> trism, if I had a rel tarball it'd presumably have the docs prebuilt, thus making it far easier to package
[20:12] <Kal_Zakath_> Seveas: +1
[20:12] <Seveas> philpem, I'd guess "make release"
[20:13] <Auriga> I have a USB floppy drive plugged in which the system sees, but I cannot access the disk... Any ideas?
[20:13] <philpem> Seveas, "make: *** No rule to make target `release'. Stop."
[20:14] <Seveas> philpem, then read their docs :-)
[20:14] <dextre009> I just tried 'au filetype java syntax on' & 'autocmd FileType conf :syntax off' but both dont work
[20:14] <philpem> Seveas, they basically say "read the automake documentation"
[20:15] <Seveas> heh
[20:15] <dr_willis> Auriga:  try mounting it by hand?
[20:15] <Seveas> philpem, make dit
[20:15] <Seveas> philpem, make dist
[20:15] <Sporty> type /server -m irc.anabolnet.org we are searching for irc operators and helpers to make the network bigger.
[20:16] <philpem> Seveas, ah ha!
[20:16]  * philpem updates his HOWTO
[20:16] <Seveas> philpem, autotools projects always(*) use 'make dist' to make tarballs
[20:16] <Seveas> ☼for values of always
[20:16] <angelo236> hi guys
[20:16] <Seveas> hello angelo236
[20:17] <trism> or better yet, make distcheck
[20:17] <Seveas> !ops | Sporty is spamming
[20:17] <Sporty> o_O
[20:17] <Kal_Zakath_> lol
[20:17] <philpem> Seveas, thanks for that -- it's been ages since I did any real work with an autotools project
[20:17] <ellie> open irc.gamesurge.net
[20:18] <Seveas> mneptok, thanks
[20:18] <Kal_Zakath_> Sporty was my gay friend
[20:18] <angelo236> chat room doesnt look busy..
[20:18] <Kal_Zakath_> angelo236: as it's Xmas it's quite logical
[20:18] <Seveas> angelo236, that's a good thing. Means there are not that many people who have problems with ubuntu :)
[20:18] <mneptok> Seveas: summoned, i come with rimmed halo of fury
[20:18] <Seveas> Kal_Zakath_, it's not christmas yet for europe/america
[20:19] <Kal_Zakath_> well I'm in europe
[20:19] <Kal_Zakath_> It's Xmas's eve
[20:19] <Kal_Zakath_> computers are shut down
[20:19] <angelo236> seveas, thats good. merry christmass eve or christmas to you guys.
[20:19] <Seveas> you're not in europe, you're in belgium. We don't consider that part of europe anymore ;)
[20:19] <Kal_Zakath_> Seveas: wtf ?
[20:20] <Kal_Zakath_> tell me why ? :)
[20:20] <Kal_Zakath_> we are the heart of europe
[20:20] <G4MM1NG3R> So...
[20:20] <Seveas> heh, you're not even the lower intestines of europe :P
[20:20] <Kal_Zakath_> european institutions are in brussels
[20:20] <Seveas> hello G4MM1NG3R
[20:20] <G4MM1NG3R> Hello
[20:20] <kkuno> no they are in rome
[20:21] <G4MM1NG3R> What's this all about...
[20:21] <Kal_Zakath_> kkuno ? Rome ??? LOOOL
[20:21]  * mneptok ignites said rimmed fury halo as only a self-righteous American can, and forces the conversation de La Belgique en canal #ubuntu-offtopic
[20:21] <Kal_Zakath_> there is an old and an older perv in Rome, that's all
[20:21] <Seveas> G4MM1NG3R, usually it's about ubuntu support. At the moment it's quiet so we're making fun of belgium :)
[20:21] <mneptok> ooops ... my un-American-ness showed.
[20:22]  * mneptok gets his gun
[20:22] <G4MM1NG3R> Aha
[20:22]  * Seveas hides 
[20:22] <kkuno> he's not perv, he's a man with big balls
[20:22] <xangua> !ot | Kal_Zakath_ kkuno
[20:22] <Seveas> when mneptok gets angry, people shut up.
[20:22] <Kal_Zakath_> Seveas: well at least I'm not in flanders
[20:22] <Auriga> dr_willis, Thanks for the suggestion...
[20:22] <mneptok> Seveas: drag this Walloon to -offtopic
[20:22] <G4MM1NG3R> I'm kinda new to IRC and stuph...
[20:22] <angelo236> well as for myself, im enjoying ubuntu.. ive fully installed it on my system for about two day now, and so far im loving it.. im new to this, and dont worry "helpers" i have not questions to ask, i have google :)
[20:22] <G4MM1NG3R> Which country do you guys see Iḿ in?
[20:22] <Kal_Zakath_> I d'ont give a fuck about your stupid rules :)
[20:22] <Seveas> mneptok, I don't have redirect powers :)
[20:23] <hydralisk> enter to win an ipad at http://freebiesrus.info/ipad
[20:23] <Auriga> dr_willis, But... It says I must specify the filesystem type...
[20:23] <Seveas> mneptok, hey, I see a spammer in need of cluebatting
[20:23] <mneptok> Kal_Zakath_: if meant seriously, that is entirely uncalled for :(
[20:23] <angelo236> G4MM1NG3R, welcome to my world
[20:23] <Seveas> can you do the honors?
[20:23] <Kal_Zakath_> huhu
[20:23] <Auriga> dr_willis, Is there a switch for that?
[20:23] <G4MM1NG3R> Lovely
[20:24] <G4MM1NG3R> Any IRC commands I should know about?
[20:24] <Seveas> G4MM1NG3R, /ignore is useful to know
[20:24] <hooman> hi
[20:24] <Seveas> as is /join #freenode :)
[20:24] <Seveas> hello hooman
[20:24] <kkuno> !list is another useful commmand
[20:24] <G4MM1NG3R> How to use that...?
[20:24] <mneptok> Kal_Zakath_: you are wlecome to defend Belgian honor in #ubuntu-offtopic. Seveas will probably continue to incite you there, as he's an obstinate (but loveable) Dutchman. but not here.
[20:24] <G4MM1NG3R> Iḿ already in freenode I think..
[20:25] <Seveas> kkuno, !list doesn't really work here. This is not a warez channel :)
[20:25] <G4MM1NG3R> (Sorry for my foolishness, first time on IRC =3=)
[20:25] <hooman> Seveas,,,hello
[20:25] <angelo236> i wish i could help, but im learning at the moment, ill just use google for commands
[20:25] <G4MM1NG3R> Okay, Iĺl give that a try too
[20:25] <G4MM1NG3R> Buh, using a proxy atm... browser too slow
[20:25] <Kal_Zakath_> HAHAHA a dutch
[20:26] <hooman>  :D
[20:26] <angelo236> i got here using this website.. like most of a guide or intro to irc http://www.linuxjournal.com/content/internet-relay-chat
[20:26] <Kal_Zakath_> dutch are shit
[20:26] <mneptok> Kal_Zakath_: enough!
[20:26] <Kal_Zakath_> (waits for a KB)
[20:26] <G4MM1NG3R> Talking about me Kal?
[20:26] <mneptok> Kal_Zakath_: it's Christmas. why make me?
[20:27] <Kal_Zakath_> because it is !
[20:27] <Kal_Zakath_> you have never seen me before
[20:27] <hooman> Please do not silence girls :p
[20:27] <G4MM1NG3R> A girl on the internet?
[20:27] <angelo236> touche.
[20:27] <G4MM1NG3R> Naa... lets not go there again...
[20:27] <G4MM1NG3R> Itś cliche
[20:27] <Seveas> hooman, mneptok's stunning looks silence all women...
[20:28] <Kal_Zakath_> let's take a look to this offtopic chan
[20:28] <sedeki> Having problems with my built in soundcard. When inserting headphones, the speakers wont mute. Im using "snd-hda-intel" and ACL888 (laptop LG X110)
[20:29] <angelo236> anybody here a new user of ubuntu?
[20:29] <Seveas> sedeki, try 'alsamixer', see if you have a control called 'headphone sense'. If you do, enable it.
[20:29] <hooman> Seveas...yes ;)
[20:29] <G4MM1NG3R> How many of my information is open to you guys to see through IRC actually?
[20:29] <G4MM1NG3R> much*
[20:29] <G4MM1NG3R> Derp... curse my sleeping brain
[20:29] <Seveas> --- [G4MM1NG3R] (~matthijs@dhcp-077-249-056-069.chello.nl) : hel000
[20:29] <no-name-> I get 3 temps and 1 fan speed on speedfan on windows but only 1 temp and 0 fan speeds on sensors on ubuntu... anyway I can get those other temps and that fanspeed on ubuntu?
[20:29] <Seveas> that
[20:29] <G4MM1NG3R> Really?
[20:29] <G4MM1NG3R> Damn
[20:29] <G4MM1NG3R> So far using proxy on Ubuntu
[20:29] <angelo236> yes really
[20:30] <sedeki> Seveas, i only have "auto-mute mode" and it is enabled
[20:30] <hooman> Seveas..This is what Rome
[20:30] <angelo236> :)
[20:30] <philpem> sedeki, what motherboard?
[20:30] <sedeki> philpem, how can i see that?
[20:30] <philpem> sedeki, try: sudo dmidecode | less
[20:31] <philpem> DMIDecode dumps the DMI Data Table from the BIOS and displays it; less allows you to move up and down through the output
[20:31] <sedeki> American Megatrends Inc., version EN021IL1.10P
[20:31] <Seveas> that's just the bios, not the motherboard
[20:31] <sedeki> bios
[20:31] <sedeki> sorry.
[20:31] <philpem> what you're looking for is "Product Name" under the "System Information" tag
[20:31] <philpem> and also "Manufacturer"
[20:32] <philpem> e.g. I have: Handle 0x0001, DMI type 1, 27 bytes
[20:32] <philpem> System Information
[20:32] <philpem>         Manufacturer: Gigabyte Technology Co., Ltd.
[20:32] <philpem>         Product Name: Z68AP-D3
[20:32] <FloodBot1> philpem: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:32] <G4MM1NG3R> Anyway for me to use a proxy for IRC as well?
[20:32] <Resistance> G4MM1NG3R:  if its an open proxy, probably not
[20:32] <hooman> Seveas..¿¿¿¿¿
[20:32] <Resistance> G4MM1NG3R:  because most nets block open proxys
[20:32] <philpem> oh fun, I got told off by a bot :P   I'll consider myself warned :)
[20:33] <sedeki> Base board information?
[20:33] <Seveas> G4MM1NG3R, or just get a cloak, then we can't see your hostname either
[20:33] <sedeki> System information
[20:33] <G4MM1NG3R> How do I get a cloak...?
[20:33] <philpem> sedeki, how about we try another way?
[20:33] <DemonWitch> hey
[20:33] <DemonWitch> does ubuntu use a custom kernel?
[20:33] <tensorpudding> G4MM1NG3R, this is not the place to ask
[20:33] <philpem> sedeki, sudo dmidecode > /tmp/dmi-info
[20:33] <xangua> !cloak | G4MM1NG3R
[20:33] <DemonWitch> or the vanilla linux kernel
[20:33] <tensorpudding> DemonWitch, yes
[20:33] <tensorpudding> DemonWitch, they patch the kernel
[20:33] <angelo236> hey guys, any linux/ubuntu sites you can recommend for me? so i can do further reading on linux, cuz im new do this. and as of right now im loving it
[20:33] <G4MM1NG3R> Ok, thanks
[20:34] <philpem> sedeki, then open that file (/tmp/dmi-info) in a text editor and copy it into http://paste.ubuntu.com
[20:34] <sedeki> philpem, fine, ill post it wait
[20:34] <Kal_Zakath_> ik ben droost
[20:34] <Resistance> DemonWitch:  probably a patched kernel
[20:34] <tensorpudding> DemonWitch, check out the source packages
[20:34] <{--__--}> why is my laptop slowing down?
[20:34] <Seveas> sedeki, sudo dmidecode -s baseboard-manufacturer; sudo dmidecode -s baseboard-product-name
[20:34] <DemonWitch> tensorpudding: i want to use a realtime. lowlatency kernel. does ubuntu have one for that already compiled?
[20:34] <Seveas> that gives you just the motherboard info :)
[20:34] <Resistance> {--__--}:  define "slowing down:
[20:34] <{--__--}> it has been like that for 2 days, there is  a delay when i am typing letters and when i am playing music too
[20:34] <Resistance> ;P
[20:34] <philpem> Seveas, heh, I'm going to have to hang out in here more often -- that's a neat trick!
[20:34] <{--__--}> like it gets chopped a bit
[20:34] <Resistance> {--__--}:  stop running so many things at once maybe :P
[20:34] <tensorpudding> DemonWitch, probably not
[20:35] <{--__--}> i got mozilla openoffice and movieplayer
[20:35] <philpem> sedeki, forget what I just said, do what Seveas suggested :)
[20:35] <{--__--}> and qbittorrent hmm
[20:35] <Seveas> {--__--}, qbittorrent may be hogging all your disk io. Do fewer illegal downloads :P
[20:35] <sedeki> philpem, http://paste.ubuntu.com/781455/
[20:35] <{--__--}> ah#
[20:35] <{--__--}> i see, thanks
[20:36] <philpem> sedeki, you have an LG X110-G.A7HBV
[20:36] <{--__--}> it might be that..
[20:36] <philpem> sedeki, 10.2in screen netbook?
[20:36] <sedeki> yes
[20:37] <simchapter_> wheneveri open a new terminal, i have to manually source .bash_profile. for some reason, it's not being automatically reloaded. Anyone know why this might happen or know how to debug such a problem?
[20:37] <philpem> right. first warning -- the Intel HDA sound driver (which is what you're probably using) is a bit of a dog.
[20:37] <philpem> one of the settings is the 'jack configuration'.
[20:37] <Seveas> simchapter_, .bash_profile is only loaded when logging in. You'll want to add your customizations to ~/.bashrc instead
[20:37] <philpem> or rather the 'board model' as alsa calls it
[20:38] <sedeki> philpem, do you mean a flag to the module in alsa_base.conf?
[20:38] <philpem> sedeki, yes. see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HdaIntelSoundHowto
[20:38] <Amaroks> everytime I boot up and login, the topmenu disappear and so left side launcher, I usually solve it by running unity --reset
[20:38] <no-name-> I get 3 temps and 1 fan speed on speedfan (windows) but 1 temp and no fan speed on sensors (ubuntu)... I tried sensors-detect but it didn't help
[20:38] <Amaroks> any solution to fix this permanently ?
[20:38] <sedeki> philpem, i looked at that earlier today
[20:39] <xangua> Amaroks: does it dissapears or never load¿
[20:39] <sedeki> philpem, anything particularly interesting?
[20:39] <philpem> sedeki, look at the list of HD-Audio model IDs for the ALC888, and try them all in turn is really all I can suggest :(
[20:40] <sedeki> philpem, what about the jack configuration?
[20:40] <simchapter_> Seveas: ic. thanks!
[20:40] <philpem> sedeki, that's what i was talking about -- card model ('model' parameter to the module) is the jack configuration
[20:40] <philpem> what you're telling the module is "I have this sound card, don't try and guess, this is how you should be talking to the CODEC chip."
[20:41] <G4MM1NG3R> Ok...
[20:41] <Amaroks> xangua probably never loads
[20:41] <philpem> there's no love lost between me and the Intel HDA front end... even the Analog Devices codecs are a pig.
[20:42] <philpem> in the end I gave up and bought a Creative Xfi Titanium and disabled the onboard Azalea audio codec.
[20:42] <xangua> Amaroks: make sure the unity plugin is enabled on compiz settings preferences
[20:42] <dextre> Seveas, philpem, I got help in #vim and we solved the problem -> :au FileType conf set syntax=OFF
[20:42] <philpem> dextre, great!
[20:42] <sedeki> philpem, ah i see. how about the enable=1 flag?
[20:42] <philpem> dextre, "set nosyntax" will probably do the same thing as syntax=OFF
[20:42] <Amaroks> whcih? Unity Plugin or Unity Plugin Rotated?
[20:42] <dextre> thank you for helping me :)
[20:42] <sedeki> is it relevant at all?
[20:43] <sedeki> also, do i need to reboot for each try?
[20:43] <philpem> sedeki, no, you can do 'rmmod snd-intel-hda; modprobe snd-intel-hda model=xyz'
[20:43] <philpem> need sudo obviously.. :)
[20:44] <G4MM1NG3R> One more time, what information could you see on me?
[20:44] <philpem> if it whines, try: sudo killall -9 pulseaudio; sudo modprobe -r snd-intel-hda; sudo modprobe snd-intel-hda model=xyz
[20:44] <Guest82085> helloy!!!
[20:44] <philpem> replace 'xyz' with the modelid you want to try
[20:44] <Amaroks> xangua : whcih? Unity Plugin or Unity Plugin Rotated?
[20:44] <sedeki> thank you
[20:45] <kor> I upgraded to 11.10 and it wont let me login to my main user acct and the guest session is locked down.
[20:45] <xangua> Amaroks: i only know there is a 'unity plugin'
[20:45] <Guest82085> i want help!
[20:45] <kor> Wont load recovery session either or open a terminal
[20:45] <Seveas> hello Guest82085. If you tell us what you need help with, we may even be able to help you!
[20:46] <philpem> sedeki, count to ten after you do that, it'll take a minute for PulseAudio to restart
[20:46] <G4MM1NG3R> What information can you guys see about me through IRC?
[20:46] <sedeki> okay
[20:46] <philpem> I wouldn't try the 6-channel ones, but the 'stereo' ones will be worth trying
[20:46] <Seveas> G4MM1NG3R, same as before :)
[20:46] <G4MM1NG3R> Gah
[20:46] <G4MM1NG3R> Iḿ so good at this =_='
[20:47] <DemonWitch> "Ubuntu" is an ancient African word meaning "I can't install Gentoo".
[20:48] <no_gravity> Hello! What are the main differences between debian and ubuntu these days?
[20:48] <xangua> !ot | no_gravity
[20:48] <Seveas> no_gravity, unity versus sanity :)
[20:50] <no_gravity> Seveas: Well, i tried to cope with unity for a few days now and it doesnt work for me. Thats why i think about switching to debian.
[20:50] <G4MM1NG3R> Just wondering, if I set this cloak up right, will it work for every server I'll go on?
[20:50] <Seveas> G4MM1NG3R, no, just for freenode
[20:50] <xangua> G4MM1NG3R: no, and this is not the place /join #freenode
[20:51] <G4MM1NG3R> Ok, thanks
[20:51] <mysteriousdarren> no_gravity: just switch to a different desktop environment lxde is my personal choice
[20:51] <Resistance> no_gravity:  or KDE, its also a decent environment
[20:51] <Resistance> no_gravity:  or install gnome-shell
[20:51] <Resistance> and use the oldish-style GNOME interface :P
[20:51] <no_gravity> mysteriousdarren: ok, and why not switch do debian?
[20:52] <kor> No help for my problem?
[20:52] <kkuno> the ol' gnomerda, as we say in italy
[20:52] <no_gravity> Resistance: "apt-get install gnome-shell"?
[20:52] <Resistance> no_gravity:  i believe so
[20:52] <Resistance> no_gravity:  as for not switching ot Debian...
[20:52] <Resistance> no_gravity:  in comparison to Ubuntu, Debian's repositories are ancient
[20:52] <Resistance> and old
[20:52] <Resistance> and seldomly updated
[20:53] <Resistance> did i mention they're old?
[20:53] <Resistance> :P
[20:53] <no_gravity> Resistance: dont they have a "testing" version that is constantly updated?
[20:53] <xangua> !ot | Resistance no_gravity
[20:53] <Resistance> no_gravity:  y...es...?
[20:53] <Resistance> xangua:  you should read scrollbacks more
[20:53] <Resistance> xangua:  <no_gravity> mysteriousdarren: ok, and why not switch do debian?
[20:53] <mysteriousdarren> no_gravity: if your just having trouble with unity there is still no reason to switch, just try out a couple environments and you will find one you like. Besides the fact debians repos are ancient, ubuntu is far more cutting edge than debian. It's great for servers but not always
[20:54] <kor> :|
[20:54] <no_gravity> mysteriousdarren: whats the difference between "up to date repos" and "cutting edge"?
[20:55] <mysteriousdarren> no_gravity: what is your problem your having?
[20:55] <dextre> no_gravity, just try debian and see if it fits you. But I think you don't need to switch just because you don't like unity
[20:56] <mysteriousdarren> no_gravity: the difference is about the same.
[20:56] <mongy> no_gravity, give xfce a go.  only an apt-get away
[20:56] <no_gravity> mysteriousdarren: ubuntu 11. nothing works. no task bar. no menus in applications, but on top of the screen.
[20:56] <mysteriousdarren> no_gravity: Unity failed me so I went back to lxde and it works perfect. I could have left but I am loyal and willing to find things that work.
[20:56] <no_gravity> mongy: why xfce and not gnome? i liked the interface of ubuntu 10.
[20:57] <mongy> no_gravity, why not.
[20:57] <xangua> !gnome2 | no_gravity
[20:57] <dextre> then get the lts version
[20:57] <no_gravity> and you cannot use gnome 3 in ubuntu?
[20:58] <usr13> no_gravity: mongy's advice is good.  Try xfce   sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[20:58] <xangua> no_gravity: oneiric comes with gnome 3.2
[20:58] <no_gravity> You guys said the repos of Gnome are ancient. Can you give an example of what that means?
[20:58] <mongy> no_gravity, it's a good replacement for gnome2.
[20:58] <mongy> bit of customising and mine is sweet...
[20:59] <Seveas> no_gravity, you can use gnome 3 in ubuntu. It's not very good yet
[20:59] <Daekdroom> Seveas, Ubuntu uses GNOME 3 already.
[20:59] <Seveas> Daekdroom, that doesn't make it good :-)
[20:59] <mneptok> no_gravity: the GNOME2 interface you like is gone from GNOME. a switch to Debian will not help, they'll use GNOME3 everywhere eventually. if you want things to look and beahve more like GNOME2, XFCE and Xubuntu are you best option. it's what i did.
[21:00] <mongy> ^ what he said
[21:00] <mongy> shave a few megs of resource too
[21:00] <mysteriousdarren> have any of you tried lubuntu? thoughts?
[21:00] <no_gravity> mneptok: debian does not come with gnome 2?
[21:00] <dextre> yes
[21:00] <mneptok> no_gravity: if it does today, it won't tomorrow.
[21:00] <mongy> mysteriousdarren, lxde is ok, but I find xfce the happy medium
[21:00] <usr13> mysteriousdarren: My thoughts are, go with xfce
[21:01] <semenko> hi all -- i'm having an issue with IP route on Oneric
[21:01] <philpem> usr13, same here -- I switched to Xfce + Xubuntu and I like it.
[21:01] <semenko> i'm getting the ever-googlable error: "RTNETLINK answers: Operation not permitted"
[21:01] <philpem> used to use Xfce + Debian but had major problems with that (mainly inconsistent UI look-and-feel)
[21:01] <mneptok> no_gravity: GNOME2 will be wiped from the face of the earth in 5 years. probably far sooner. why start trying to backpedal? you WILL fail.
[21:01] <semenko> i've found a lot of references to it online, but not a clear solution
[21:01] <no_gravity> So how do I switch from Unity to xfce? "apt-get install xfce"?
[21:02] <usr13> philpem: route -n  #Take a look and see what is wrong.
[21:02] <mneptok> no_gravity: sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[21:02] <semenko> i'm just trying to set a different MTU on a route [sudo ip route change default via 192.168.1.1 dev eth0 mtu 1400]
[21:02] <mongy> There is the MATE fork of gnome2 but why bother when a mature xfce is ready and willing.
[21:02] <philpem> usr13, eh?
[21:02] <darth_tux71> hey anyone know how to use rfkill to turn a wifi on since i cant seem th get it on any other way
[21:02] <semenko> route -n seems fine
[21:02] <kasii> help in java
[21:03] <no_gravity> mneptok: and that will get rid of unity?
[21:03] <mysteriousdarren> mongy: I tried both kubuntu, xubuntu but nothing compared to lxde for older machines....its just light and it flies
[21:03] <mneptok> no_gravity: it will allow you to choose XFCE as an environment when you login.
[21:03] <mongy> mysteriousdarren,  for older ones yes, but there isnt very much in it between lxde and xfce
[21:03] <philpem> Quick question folks -- the file-open and file-save dialogs in LibreOffice don't match up with the rest of XFCE. I seem to recall there was an easy fix for this (install a package and change a Libreoffice setting). Can anyone remember the magic incantation?
[21:03] <mongy> mysteriousdarren, not that I saw anyway.. when looking at ram and cpu usage.
[21:03] <mneptok> no_gravity: all the Unity and GNOME bits are still on the disk, until you remove the ubuntu-desktop package. and i would wait a week to do that.
[21:04] <philpem> What I want is the GTK-style save window like this: http://images.brighthub.com/0e/8/0e8b28b6b6fabe7988b714a705c91840fa75a4de_large.jpg
[21:04] <semenko> sorry, the RNETLINK Error is : RTNETLINK answers: No such file or directory
[21:04] <no_gravity> mysteriousdarren: so how do you install lxde? "apt-get install lxde"?
[21:04] <philpem> what I'm getting is a very plain one with a list of directories and files in one list.
[21:04] <semenko> [not "Operation not permitted", that was sans sudo]
[21:05] <xangua> sudo apt-get install libreoffice-gtk philpem
[21:05] <Seveas> philpem, openoffice doesn't use any standard widget.
[21:05] <philpem> thanks, xangua
[21:05] <usr13> philpem: What does  route -n   say?  (See if you have a problem with your default GW like you said you do.)
[21:05] <Seveas> xangua, ooh... hmm, I need to try that, thanks
[21:05] <Seveas> it might make libreoffice less fugly :)
[21:06] <philpem> usr13, I didn't mention any issues with default GW...
[21:06] <semenko> route -n says
[21:06] <semenko> (he's off by one, he means semenko)
[21:06] <usr13> Oh sorry, that was for semenko   Wrong nic
[21:06] <semenko> 0.0.0.0         192.168.1.1     0.0.0.0         UG    100    0        0 eth0
[21:06] <philpem> usr13, np :)
[21:06] <semenko> 192.168.1.0     0.0.0.0         255.255.255.0   U     0      0        0 eth0
[21:06] <semenko> 192.168.122.0   0.0.0.0         255.255.255.0   U     0      0        0 virbr0
[21:06] <semenko> (sorry, header was:)
[21:06] <semenko> Destination     Gateway         Genmask         Flags Metric Ref    Use Iface
[21:06] <usr13> semenko: use pastebinit
[21:06] <semenko> yeah
[21:06] <usr13> semenko: route -n | pastebinit
[21:07] <semenko> nifty.
[21:07] <semenko> http://pastebin.com/PYHuCKfH
[21:08] <mysteriousdarren> no_gravity: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade && sudo apt-get install lubuntu-core lubuntu-icon-theme lubuntu-restricted-extras does the whole deal
[21:08] <deli> how to play hd video files in ubuntu(11.10) without lag?
[21:08] <semenko> the machine handles its routing fine. i'm just trying to change the default route MTU explicitly to deal with some jumbo frames issues
[21:09] <mongy> mysteriousdarren, doesn't lubuntu-desktop do it all?
[21:09] <no_gravity> mysteriousdarren: one obvious advantage of debian is that they dont have this whole "sudo this, sudo that" madness.
[21:09] <no_gravity> mysteriousdarren: thanks for the info how to install lxde.
[21:09] <mysteriousdarren> mongy: true but restricted extras does more:) most ppl come back needing it
[21:09] <usr13> semenko: What is the IP address of your router?
[21:10] <semenko> 192.168.1.1
[21:10] <mongy> mysteriousdarren, whats different about it than ubuntu/xubuntu-restricted?
[21:10] <semenko> though i don't understand how that'd impact me changing the mtu
[21:10] <angelo236> 3quit
[21:10] <mysteriousdarren> no_gravity: did u use debian alot before?
[21:10] <no_gravity> mysteriousdarren: i started with ubuntu when ubuntu 5 came out. before i used debian.
[21:10] <usr13> semenko: our trying to change the default route MTU ?
[21:10] <deli> how to play hd video files in ubuntu(11.10) without lag?
[21:10]  * philpem suspects he's used just about all the major distros at some point
[21:11] <semenko> usr13: i'm trying to change the default route MTU to something lower, it's a long story involving PMTUD & jumbo frames
[21:11] <mysteriousdarren> mongy: sudo apt-get install lubuntu-desktop does it too, more apps tho that way
[21:11] <no_gravity> mysteriousdarren: i build my whole company based on debian. the switch to ubuntu came later.
[21:11] <semenko> either way, i should be able to set it to arbitrary values (e.g. MTU for the default route = 1000 or 1400, etc.)
[21:11] <mysteriousdarren> mongy: I have had things break by doing that, I think they are about the same
[21:11] <usr13> semenko: man ifconfig
[21:11] <semenko> on OS X, it's just sudo route change default -mtu 1500
[21:11] <semenko> that's not the route
[21:11] <semenko> that's the interface.
[21:12] <semenko> the issue is i want my interface to support jumbo frames internally
[21:12] <usr13> semenko: Yea.  So use ifconfig
[21:12] <semenko> no
[21:12] <usr13> no?
[21:12] <semenko> i don't think it supports route-specific MTUs
[21:12] <semenko> e.g.
[21:12] <kasii> java help
[21:12] <philpem> started out with an early redhat, then mandrake, SuSe for a while, slackware until ~V10, then fedora for a while, ubuntu from 8.x to 11.04 (didn't really use that), debian for a few months, now using Xubuntu
[21:12] <semenko> i want eth0 to send MTU 9000 frames to 192.168.1.0
[21:12] <philpem> also use RHEL 6 at work.
[21:12] <usr13> semenko: I don't know then.  Ask someone else.
[21:12] <semenko> kk
[21:12] <semenko> is there a different channel for ubuntu support?
[21:13] <mysteriousdarren> mongy: nevermind they are the same
[21:13] <usr13> semenko: This is the channel for ubuntu support
[21:13] <Seveas> semenko, read the manpage for route, specifically the section about mss
[21:13] <Canadian1296> semenko: This is for ubuntu support… What do you need?
[21:13] <semenko> Seveas: so i guess the ip route command just doesn't work?
[21:14] <mongy> mysteriousdarren, I know they hold mostly the same stuff, but I also know to use the proper meta package for the distro
[21:14] <mongy> just in case.
[21:14] <Raliegh> Mmkay, this is probably a stupid question... But I'm currently installing Gnome on my server for a GUI. How exactly do I USE said GUI remotely?
[21:14] <usr13> semenko: sudo ifconfig eth0 mtu 9000  #That is all I can suggest.
[21:14] <deli> how to play hd video files in ubuntu(11.10) without lag pls?
[21:14] <mysteriousdarren> mongy:good point
[21:14] <kasii> java help i need guys in xchat
[21:14] <usr13> semenko: Maybe someone else has a more information.
[21:14] <semenko> Canadian1296: I'm trying to set my MTU to 9000 for local frames over eth0 [192.168.1.0/24] but set my MTU at 1500 for things at the default route
[21:14] <Seveas> semenko, I've never heard of route specific mtu, don't know if lunix supports that at all
[21:14] <cartomen> !list
[21:15] <mongy> deli,  what gpu do you have ?
[21:15] <mysteriousdarren> Raliegh: SSH in probably or VNC works too
[21:15] <deli> mongy gpu???
[21:15] <semenko> Seveas: i think route probably supports it, though i'm confused as to why "ip route" fails with that vague error
[21:15] <mongy> deli, gfx card
[21:15] <deli> mongy how ddo i check?
[21:16] <mongy> Raliegh, I like Xnest
[21:16] <mongy> deli, lspci  | grep VGA
[21:16] <Raliegh> mysteriousdarren, I've been using SSH this whole time but I figured I wanted a GUI so I'm grabbing Gnome. I just need to know how to actually access it since... It's a server and all. The command line just gets a little daunting sometimes.
[21:16] <usr13> semenko: See: man route  and   man ifconfig
[21:17] <usr13> semenko: But I think you're barking up the wrong tree.
[21:17] <pnorman> Raliegh: You can do x11 over SSH
[21:17] <semenko> usr13: ?
[21:17] <deli> mongy VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation N10 Family Integrated Graphics Controller
[21:17] <kasii> javaaa
[21:17] <no_gravity> you guys dont celebrate xmas today?
[21:17] <pnorman> no_gravity: It's the 24th for significant portions of the world
[21:17] <mysteriousdarren> Raliegh: How easy do u want it? supereasy would be to install teamviewer, but most don't want that.
[21:18] <Raliegh> x11? Sorry, I've no idea what that is, haha. There's no remote application I need to download to access the GUI? And mysteriousdarren, that's not a bad idea... But I'd rather have direct access if possible. I do love Teamviewer though. :)
[21:18] <no_gravity> pnorman: yes. here in germany, thats the main xmas day.
[21:18] <Raliegh> Mmkay install complete.
[21:18] <usr13> pnorman: You can do X forwarding over ssh but it's not very efficient.   You should do vnc.
[21:18] <mongy> deli, well have you tried a different player then ?  gnome-mplayer, vlc, smplayer, it can make a big difference.  using a lighter desktop as well helps as unity 3D might be a little tough on an intel
[21:18] <LaFlakitaBnAsika> join  #ubuntu-es
[21:18] <deli> mongy, yes i tried, but all the same
[21:19] <mongy> deli,  are you using unity 3d?
[21:19] <deli> mongy 2d if i am correct
[21:20] <deli> mongy but i had this problem before upgrading to 11.10
[21:21] <Raliegh> Anyone have a good guide for properly installing VNC? I see a lot peppered around but a lot of them just say "change this file and that file" without telling me where the files are located, lol.
[21:21] <mongy> deli, wish I had a solution but it's not something I have looked into much, as I have decent hardware.
[21:21] <xangua> !vnc | Raliegh
[21:22] <usr13> Raliegh: sudo apt-get install x11vnc xtightvnc
[21:22] <mongy> +! for freenx.
[21:22] <mongy> +1 even
[21:22] <deli> mongy too bad, thanks anyway though
[21:22] <no_gravity> Ok, I started "apt-get install lubuntu-desktop"... 335 MB wow...
[21:22] <THEROOT> hi here
[21:23] <mongy> no_gravity, try with --no-install-recommends if you dont want that much
[21:23] <THEROOT> anyone can help me to add a domain to bind9?
[21:23] <no_gravity> mongy: but then i dont know what i will miss...
[21:23] <mongy> no_gravity, nothing that will stop it working.
[21:24] <mongy> no_gravity, with each DE they have their own lighter versions of apps to go with...
[21:24] <mysteriousdarren> Raliegh: the bot said it best.
[21:24] <no_gravity> mongy: then why do they recommend that stuff?
[21:24] <mongy> no_gravity, the metapackage is to install an environment the same as you would get a fresh install.
[21:24] <Raliegh> The bot is quite sexy.
[21:25] <no_gravity> mongy: well, too late. i already started it.
[21:25] <usr13> Raliegh: sudo apt-get install x11vnc xtightvncviewer  #Other one was typo. There are several options  tightvncserver and x11vnc   are pretty good and easy.
[21:25] <mongy> no_gravity, won't hurt it...
[21:25] <THEROOT> anyone can help me to add a domain to bind9?
[21:26] <no_gravity> Raliegh: on the server, i install vnc with this one line: apt-get install tightvncserver && vncpasswd && tightvncserver
[21:26] <no_gravity> Raliegh: and on the client i just type "vinagre x.x.x.x:1". where x.x.x.x is the ip of the server.
[21:27] <no_gravity> Raliegh: and boom! im connected :) easy
[21:27] <Oer> THEROOT, did you read the manual https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/serverguide/C/dns-configuration.html
[21:28] <no_gravity> mongy: hmm.. it asks me to select the display manager.
[21:28] <no_gravity> lightdm or lxdm
[21:28] <Seveas> no_gravity, you may want to try remmina instead of vinagre if you need to connect to many remote hosts
[21:28] <no_gravity> how do i knoe?
[21:28] <mongy> no_gravity, xfce and unity/gnome3 use lightdm
[21:28] <Oer> THEROOT, and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BIND9ServerHowto
[21:28] <no_gravity> mongy: ok, i try it.
[21:29] <mongy> no_gravity,  I would guess lubuntu uses same seeing as its an official variant now
[21:29] <no_gravity> mongy: i see it installing weird stuff like chrome-browser...
[21:29] <mongy> no_gravity, yup.  comes with lubuntu
[21:29] <no_gravity> mongy: and mplayer and what not... is this a display manager or an application suite???
[21:29] <mongy> no_gravity, see above about --no-install-recommends
[21:30] <no_gravity> mongy: yeah, too late :)
[21:30] <Oer> de desktop environment
[21:30] <mongy> no_gravity, could have stopped it downloading.
[21:30] <mongy> no_gravity, too late now thought
[21:30] <mang0> How can I see what version wine is?
[21:30] <no_gravity> mongy: well, its on my "play with new things" machine, not on my main machine. so its fine.
[21:31] <mongy> mang0, apt-cache policy wine
[21:31] <no_gravity> mongy: man wine
[21:31] <mang0> no_gravity: Just to let you know btw, I've sorted out a whole bash command to cd into a director, svn up, cd in to a different dir, svn up again, cd back into the first dir, make and make install \o/
[21:31] <mang0> and it works too
[21:31] <no_gravity> mang0: vine --version
[21:31] <mang0> mongy: Cheers.
[21:31] <mang0> no_gravity: K, ty
[21:32] <no_gravity> mang0: awesome!
[21:32] <Raliegh> Cool, I've got a sexy new desktop now... But every time I try and launch an application I get a silly "Could not fork" error. Da hell? x.x
[21:32] <mang0> no_gravity: yeah :D
[21:32] <no_gravity> mang0: what is svn? subversion?
[21:32] <mang0> Another thing: How do I upgrade wine, without removing my current wine programmes?
[21:32] <mang0> no_gravity: Svn is like GIT, but easier
[21:33] <mang0> :)
[21:33] <Resistance> mang0:  upgrade-in-place?
[21:33] <Resistance> mang0:  uninstalling wine wont erase your programs iirc
[21:33] <no_gravity> mang0: yeah, i know subversion. i just didnt know svn is the command for it.
[21:33] <mang0> no_gravity: Yeah, to update you use "svn up"
[21:33] <mang0> Resistance: So I can use sudo aptitude remove wine, and it'll keep my current programs?
[21:33] <mongy> mang0, your apps will still remain in .wine/
[21:34] <Resistance> mang0:  why do you need to remove wine?
[21:34] <no_gravity> ok, i installed lubuntu-desktop. now what? reboot?
[21:34] <mang0> mongy: mongy: Okay, thanks. Although I could do with a total cleanout of .wine anyway....
[21:34] <Resistance> mang0:  if you're installing a newer version, it'll just upgrade
[21:34] <mang0> Resistance: I don't, I need to upgrade
[21:34] <mang0> oh
[21:34] <mang0> so I can just do sudo apt-get install wine 1.3 or whatever, and it'll upgrade/
[21:34] <mongy> mang0, just upgrade.. no need to remove
[21:34] <Resistance> mang0:  depends on whether its in the repos, but generally yes
[21:35] <Resistance> brb
[21:35] <mongy> mang0, y es.
[21:35] <mang0> Resistance, mongy: Thanks :)
[21:35] <Raliegh> Ohh I see what it is. Holy shit Gnome uses a lot of memory.
[21:36] <mongy> Raliegh,  for a remote GUI you really could do to use lxde/xfce
[21:36] <Raliegh> Mmkay, how would I go about completely uninstalling Gnome and then finding a very, very low memory-intense GUI?
[21:37] <pangolin> Please mind the language
[21:37] <Raliegh> I basically just need a way to see the GUI for VLC for easier transcoding. Screw VLC scripting via command.
[21:37] <Raliegh> And who are you referring to pango? I didn't say anything bad...?
[21:37] <Raliegh> Lmao.
[21:37] <mang0> Raliegh: You said the s**t word, and this is a family channel...
[21:38] <mang0> :S
[21:38] <mongy> Raliegh, use ssh X forwarding and an app called arista.  or learn to use ffmpeg
[21:38] <no_gravity> Raliegh: i just did "apt-get install lubuntu-desktop" for similar reasons. Now i learned that "apt-get install lubuntu-desktop --no-install-recommends" might have been even better.
[21:38] <Raliegh> Oooh I see.
[21:39] <mongy> Raliegh, ffmpeg can be quite easy, depends what you want to do....
[21:39] <Raliegh> How would I uninstall it though grav? I used "apt-get install ubuntu-desktop" for Gnome.
[21:39] <mongy> Raliegh, autoremove --purge
[21:39] <Raliegh> And I'm down to give it a try after I figure out how to properly remove everything Gnome. I'm at 100% memory useage, lol.
[21:40] <Raliegh> autoremove command not found: Besides, how does that know to remove just Gnome?
[21:40] <no_gravity> Raliegh: i think installing lubuntu-desktop and rebooting will disable gnome. im rebooting right now...
[21:40] <mongy> Raliegh, might have to sudo apt-get autoremove --purge (just like that) after it also to make sure
[21:40] <sparkiez> merry xmas to you all!
[21:40] <mongy> Raliegh, what kind of transcoding you need to do ?
[21:40] <no_gravity> HA! I rebooted and got the same sh*tty unity again!?!
[21:40] <MeanEYE> Anyone can suggest a nice theme for Ubuntu Oneiric ?
[21:41] <mongy> no_gravity, need to click the gear icon on login and choose different DE
[21:41] <mongy> MeanEYE, zukitwo-dark
[21:41] <Raliegh> mongy, I need to transcode a live ICecast stream in OGG and convert it to MPEG/MP3, and then push to a new Icecast mount. Also I got a segmentation fault with that previous command, haha.
[21:41] <MeanEYE> mongy, Support for both GTK2 and 3?
[21:41] <paulsomebody> Greetings, I need help with the stuck disc issue. Namely, I had unsuccessfully tried to burn a disc in Brasero, but some errors occured and the progress halted. I aborted the job, and now the tray won't come out, even after reboot. Braser log can be found here: http://paste.ubuntu.com/781500/
[21:41] <no_gravity> mongy: ok, lets see...
[21:41] <usr13> no_gravity: Did you install xubuntu-desktop?
[21:41] <mongy> MeanEYE, yes.
[21:42] <MeanEYE> mongy, thanks! :)
[21:42] <no_gravity> usr13: no, lubuntu-desktop
[21:42] <paulsomebody> MeanEYE: Check omgubuntu.co.uk, they feature themes and a whole lot more on the regular basis.
[21:42] <mongy> Raliegh, so, convert ogg to mp3?
[21:42] <no_gravity> mongy: i logged out. now i have an empty screen with nothing but the background image and the mouse cursor. now what?
[21:42] <mongy> MeanEYE, gnome-look.org and look at them based on rarting/downloads
[21:42] <Raliegh> Basically, but it's not a direct file... It's a stream, and it needs to be done on the fly.
[21:43] <usr13> no_gravity: Oh
[21:43] <mongy> Raliegh, I'm no ffmpeg buff but I know it can do streams..  man ffmpeg
[21:43] <no_gravity> mongy: it works now. just needed some time to show the logon screen.
[21:43] <Raliegh> mongy apt-get --purge remove ubuntu-desktop gives me a sgmentation fault crap. I gotta remove Gnome before I work on all of that, haha.
[21:44] <Raliegh> 100% memory usage is no bueno.
[21:44] <usr13> Raliegh: What are you trying to do?
[21:44] <Raliegh> Remove Gnome entirely, since it eats up RAM like no other.
[21:44] <Raliegh> Just installed it using "apt-get install ubuntu-desktop"
[21:44] <usr13> Raliegh: It won't if you don't use it.
[21:45] <no_gravity> Hmmm.. how do i get rid of that wallpaper? I dont want a wallpaper. Do I have to make an empty image for that?
[21:45] <MeanEYE> mongy, thanks! :) found them on deviant... they look really nice :)
[21:45] <usr13> Raliegh: how much ram do you have?
[21:45] <paulsomebody> Can anyone help with the stuck disc issue?
[21:45] <usr13> Raliegh: Try xfce
[21:45] <MeanEYE> Anyone having problems with sound indicator dying often?
[21:45] <Raliegh> Only a gig. Never needed any more since I did everything via SSH.
[21:45] <Raliegh> And I'm currently not logged into Gnome with VNC or anything, and I'm still at 100% usage.
[21:45] <usr13> Raliegh: A 1G of RAM should be enough.
[21:46] <Raliegh> xfce what usr13? Sorry, kind of a noob to most commands.
[21:46] <no_gravity> Oh, got it. "Fill screen with color"
[21:46] <Raliegh> Naw usr13, I'm still sitting at 100%, and it isn't moving at all. Not one bit.
[21:46] <usr13> Raliegh: Were are you seeing that you are using 100% of RAM?
[21:46] <MeanEYE> mongy, Any reason why people keep having different colors for GTK2 and GTK3 versions?
[21:46] <usr13> Raliegh: htop?
[21:46] <Raliegh> My control panels for my VPS.
[21:46] <mongy> Raliegh, are you sure its not just using it all for cache?
[21:47] <mongy> Raliegh, free -m
[21:47] <Raliegh> Hell if I know. I just know before I installed Gnome and VNC I was sitting around 30%.
[21:47] <Raliegh> http://pastebin.com/X9LBkcLF
[21:48] <Raliegh> That's the output of "free -m". Also, yay Pastebin is back.
[21:48] <no_gravity> Ok, thanks for the help and infos everybody! Im going to sleep now :)
[21:48] <Raliegh> BTW thanks for the help so far guys. ^^
[21:49] <valdin> est ce que il y as qulequn travail avec java de faire comilteur de pascale??
[21:49] <usr13> Raliegh: Your conclusion is flawed.  Try htop
[21:49] <usr13> Raliegh: sudo apt-get install htop
[21:49] <Raliegh> Segmentation faults on everything apt-get
[21:49] <Aka> in need of a little help
[21:49] <Raliegh> Segmentation faultsts... 0%
[21:50] <Aka> for some reason I can't seem to surf the web on the wireless on a new install
[21:50] <Aka> I can ssh into other machines and use irc just fine but its like I'm not online when I try to use chromium or firefox
[21:50] <paulsomebody> !es | valdin
[21:51] <valdin> est ce que il y as qulequn travail avec java de faire comilteur de pascale??
[21:51] <Seveas> !fr | valdin
[21:51] <Raliegh> mongy, Just did a reboot though and that free up a looot of memory, so yay.
[21:51] <Raliegh> freed *
[21:52] <paulsomebody> Seveas: Well, those two languages are basically the same thing. :)
[21:52] <mongy> Raliegh, yeah I saw it was using all your ram..    what vps is it?
[21:52] <Seveas> Raliegh, heh, you're trying to run gnome with just one gb of memory and no swap? that's never gonna fly :)
[21:52] <paulsomebody> So, can anyone help with the stuck drive issue?
[21:52] <Raliegh> Did apt-get --purge remove ubuntu-desktop but... It only removed one package that was 64KB? That can't be right.
[21:52] <Seveas> paulsomebody, you must be american :P
[21:52] <Raliegh> mongy, are you asking what my OS is or my VPS provider?
[21:52] <paulsomebody> Seveas: No, I am not. :) Not even remotely.
[21:53] <paulsomebody> Seveas: But I was pretty sure you would say that.
[21:53] <usr13> Raliegh:  apt-get -f install
[21:53] <Aka> oh is it hate on Americans day ? Cause if so I'd like in
[21:53] <Raliegh> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded. Nothin', haha.
[21:53] <Seveas> paulsomebody, try ejecting the drive *during* reboot
[21:54] <paulsomebody> Aka: Better help me with the stuck drive, since for me it is 'Hate Bugginess of Ubuntu Day'.
[21:54] <usr13> Raliegh: sudo
[21:54] <paulsomebody> Seveas: Ok, will try.
[21:54] <usr13> Raliegh: sudo  rm -rf /var/cache/apt/*.bin
[21:54] <Seveas> Raliegh, ubuntu-desktop is an empty package that just specifies dependencies. Try removing libgtk, that should get rid of pretty much all of gnome
[21:54] <Aka> LOL paulsomebody
[21:54] <Raliegh> usr13 Same thing of course. I run everything as root, so sudo makes no diff.
[21:55] <Aka> usually I don't have any issues but I just did an update and well it hasn't been the same since
[21:55] <Raliegh> K, ran that remove command (even though I'm not sure what it did except remove anything with extension .bin).
[21:55] <Aka> I'm thinking about doing a dban and re-install
[21:55] <Seveas> why dban?
[21:55] <usr13> Raliegh: sudo apt-get install htop
[21:55] <Aka> Seveas, honestly I just like to start with a completely clean HDD
[21:55] <Aka> overkill I know
[21:55] <peterrus> hey people, I upgraded from 11.04 to 11.10 and now my system wont boot, I chrooted into into it and when i try to do a dpkg-reconfigure -a it starts fixing a lot of packages so something there must went wrong, I get alot of 'too many levels of symbolics links' the /var/run is for example loop-linked with /run with point to /var/run again, but there are a lot more of those symlink loops
[21:56] <peterrus> i really want my server to survive XD
[21:56] <Raliegh> Oh I coulda done that after reboot, didn't know that is what you were getting at. usr13, I've got it installed but my memory is freed now after my reboot. Just trying to uninstall Gnome entirely and properly before I go researching ffmpeg (I think it was)
[21:56] <Seveas> peterrus, in the case of /var/run vs /run: /run should be a directory, /var/run a symlink to it
[21:57] <fuudruukers> gstreamer*
[21:57] <usr13> Raliegh: Ok
[21:57] <Seveas> peterrus, what are the others?
[21:57] <_cb> when ubuntu 11.10 goes to sleep I have to power off to get it back. How do I fix?
[21:57] <Marezz> Is it possible to play native games with decent framerate if I use AMD OSS driver?
[21:57] <usr13> _cb: How much RAM do you have?
[21:57] <peterrus> Seveas: hmm I would have to reboot to that chroot, but dpkg-reconfigure doesnt always specificly say which
[21:57] <Seveas> _cb, get hardware on which linux can du suspend (or hibernate if you are using that)
[21:58] <Aka> hmm
[21:58] <Raliegh> usr13 Do you have any idea why when I used "apt-get --purge remove ubuntu-desktop" it only removed on package that was 61.4kb?
[21:58] <Aka> looks like I'm not the only one having issues after that last update
[21:58] <Raliegh> I know for a fact it didn't properly dispose of Gnome.
[21:58] <Seveas> peterrus, /run vs /var/run should solve quite a few of them I'd say. Try figuring out the other ones.
[21:58] <peterrus> Raliegh: shouldnt you do apt-get --purge remove ?
[21:58] <_cb> usr13 looks as if 1 gig
[21:59] <mongy> Raliegh, sometimes you have to remove stuff manually..
[21:59] <Seveas> Raliegh, ubuntu-desktop is an empty package that just specifies dependencies. Try removing libgtk, that should get rid of pretty much all of gnome
[21:59] <usr13> Raliegh: Do you have X server running?
[21:59] <bastidrazor> Raliegh: ubuntu-desktop is a meta package that tells it what other packages are needed to have the desktop. you can't remove Ubuntu that way.
[21:59] <_cb> Seveas never had a problem with Ubuntu 9.04
[21:59] <mongy> Raliegh, as seveas says....
[21:59] <usr13> _cb: What size is your swap partition?
[21:59] <peterrus> Seveas: yes but as its looped I wouldn't have the original contents of the /run directory right?
[21:59] <Raliegh> So apt-get --purge remove libgtk?
[21:59] <usr13> _cb: "Looks as if"?  You don't know?   free
[21:59] <Seveas> peterrus, /run is for ephemeral files anyway.
[21:59] <Raliegh> And that won't effect any other packages? x.x
[21:59] <Aka> brb I need to restart my box again :(
[22:00] <peterrus> Raliegh: or you might try sudo apt-get remove --purge gnome-*
[22:00] <Raliegh> E: Unable to locate package libgtk   <--- result
[22:00] <peterrus> maybe without the -
[22:00] <mongy> Raliegh, use autoremove --purge
[22:00] <Seveas> peterrus, if things still fail, apt-get install --reinstall [failing things here]
[22:01] <Raliegh> peterrus, that freed 155MB, but I'm pretty sure gnome installed like 1.5GB
[22:01] <bobdobbs> I've got firefox9 running on ubuntu 10.10, 64bit version. I can't seem to get flash working. I have the flash library installed in /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins.
[22:01] <Raliegh> Will try mongy after current completion... But I'm still confused as to how that command would know to remove gnome?
[22:01] <Raliegh> And just gnome?
[22:01] <peterrus> Raliegh: and now do apt-get autoremove?
[22:01] <peterrus> with --purge preferably
[22:01] <Raliegh> Yep will do when it finishes
[22:02] <bastidrazor> !purekde | Raliegh ..this will somewhat do you want you want.
[22:02] <Raliegh> That frees up another 288MB. Not the full installation but eh, it's good enough. Whatever, lol.
[22:02] <_cb> usr13 any tips as to how I find my partition size?
[22:03] <peterrus> I wonder if the looped symlibnks have something to do with upgrading in a chroot
[22:03] <peterrus> i needed to upgrade because only 11.10 seems to have netdrivers for my card
[22:03] <Seveas> peterrus, one package I would reinstall after recreating /run is udev
[22:03] <mongy> Raliegh, just go through it like autoremove --purge gnome* libgtk*
[22:03] <peterrus> ok
[22:03] <_cb> usr13 free m reports 1017712 total
[22:04] <Raliegh> Ahhh, 755MB removed with that. Thanks, I'm pretty sure that's all of it. ^^
[22:05] <peterrus> Raliegh: or you could just install ubuntu server ;)
[22:06] <nickel> how may I connect an external monitor to my laptop? ubuntu 11 seems to have some issues there..
[22:06] <Raliegh> peterrus Do what? I normally do everything by SSH to my server. "Ubuntu server" is kind of a broad name... What is it? Lol.
[22:07] <Aka> blech
[22:07] <peterrus> Raliegh: its ubuntu minus the desktop environment
[22:07] <Aka> my network connection is still running soooo slow that the dpkg --configuration -a is taking forever
[22:07] <Raliegh> Oh that's what I've already got, lol. At least I'm pretty sure, since I use Putty to throw commands and whatnot.
[22:08] <Aka> well at least I can use 'ssh' to do what I need for work :(
[22:08] <peterrus> Raliegh: nope you have the regular ubuntu
[22:08] <Raliegh> Works fine so far... I just can't figure out proper code to setup VLC for live transcoding, so I tried to get a GUI up to do it that way... But that didn't work, haha. I just ultimately need to figure out a proper way to do live Icecast transcoding. x.x
[22:08] <peterrus> ubuntu server is a downloadable iso
[22:08] <mystdarren> Raliegh: did you figure your your VNC thing?
[22:08] <paulsomebody> Hello, everyone.
[22:08] <peterrus> this has nothing to do with ssh ;)
[22:09] <paulsomebody> Trying to eject it while rebooting did not work.
[22:09] <Aka> LOL
[22:09] <paulsomebody> Plus, now I have another problem.
[22:09] <paulsomebody> Bigger problem.
[22:09] <Aka> not for you
[22:09] <Aka> but for me it does
[22:09] <Aka> ;)
[22:09] <Raliegh> mystdarren, Yeah, got VNC installed along with GNOME, but that took up a ridiculous amount of RAM to where my system was unuseable so... GUI is not going down for me, lol.
[22:09] <usr13> _cb:  grep MemTotal /proc/meminfo  ; sudo fdisk -l |grep swap | pastebinit sys-info   #And send us resulting URL.  We will look and see.
[22:09] <Raliegh> It looked pretty during the time I could see it though. :D
[22:09] <paulsomebody> I cannot log with my credentials.
[22:09] <mystdarren> Raliegh: use lxde :)
[22:09] <nickel> the second monitor works just fine with the ubuntu 11 live boot from a pen-drive, but after the install to HD, it just remains blank :\
[22:09] <paulsomebody> I am absolutely sure that they are all right.
[22:10] <peterrus> hmm my dpkg-reconfigure -a gives less errors now, but it doesnt complete right. it ends with 'dpkg-maintscript-helper: error: clound't identify the package'
[22:10] <Raliegh> mystdarren, I've only got 1GB RAM, and with all my other services running I'm always constantly at 30%.
[22:10] <paulsomebody> But I cannot login. The screen just blinks black for a second and then I am back at the GDM.
[22:10] <paulsomebody> Oh, I meant LightDM.
[22:10] <paulsomebody> Any ideas?
[22:10] <paulsomebody> Anyone?
[22:10] <mystdarren> Raliegh: I am typing this on a Inspiron 700m that has 1 gb ram and 1.6ghz and it flies with lubuntu
[22:10] <Tech-1> U broke it
[22:10] <paulsomebody> Tech-1: Hm?
[22:11] <mystdarren> Raliegh: Its 6 years old
[22:11] <Raliegh> I don't have lubuntu (I assume that's short for light ubuntu) but I wish I did, lol.
[22:11] <Tech-1> did you try startx ?
[22:11] <nickel> any suggestions?
[22:11] <Raliegh> BRB, smoke break before I go through the process of figuring out how to properly transcode live streams. x.x
[22:11] <auronandace> !lubuntu | Raliegh
[22:11] <edbian> Raliegh, It's ubuntu with the LXDE desktop env  (this is lighter)
[22:11] <paulsomebody> Tech-1: Well, I assume X are starting all right, since I have no problem with it when I am login in as the Guest.
[22:12] <edbian> darnit!
[22:12] <Tech-1> o
[22:12] <paulsomebody> Tech-1: It is just my usual account.
[22:12] <Tech-1> so, it logs in and goes blank ?
[22:12] <paulsomebody> Tech-1: I am absolutely certain that I have got password right, and again there is not error message.
[22:12] <deli> how do i get login screen back(after accidentally removing it)
[22:12] <Tech-1> huh
[22:13] <paulsomebody> Tech-1: No, it does not go blank for long, just for a secon.d
[22:13] <paulsomebody> Tech-1: And then, it throws me back at the login screen.
[22:13] <Tech-1> wow
[22:13] <Tech-1> not good
[22:13] <paulsomebody> Tech-1: What is most wonderful, things were working all right just a moment ago.
[22:13] <Tech-1> ive had that happen, turned out xserver got broke
[22:14] <paulsomebody> Tech-1: And the only things I did change was irrelevant to xserver.
[22:14] <edbian> deli, icon in the top right corner -> log out
[22:14] <paulsomebody> Tech-1: Okay, how do I fix this incessant thing?
[22:14] <Tech-1> did you try logging into safe graphics mode ?
[22:14] <paulsomebody> Tech-1: Ubuntu-2D?
[22:14] <Tech-1> Yeah
[22:14] <paulsomebody> Tech-1: Just the same result.
[22:14] <mysteriousdarren> has anyone tried AWN?
[22:15] <Talonlite> I have mysteriousdarren
[22:15] <Talonlite> Though, I prefer OpenBox.
[22:15] <edbian> mysteriousdarren, I have but it was a couple years ago
[22:15] <paulsomebody> Tech-1: But for Guest account everything works all right.
[22:15] <Tech-1> ah
[22:15] <nickel> anyone? :|
[22:15] <edbian> type(awn) != type(openBox)
[22:15] <deli> edbian, no i accidentally removed the ubuntu-desktop and after rebooting i dont get a login screen( it keeps loading)
[22:15] <edbian> deli, Do you get a CLI login?
[22:16] <paulsomebody> Tech-1: It is amazing how suddenly things can come crushing down.
[22:16] <Tech-1> Yeah
[22:16] <edbian> deli, what do you mean 'it keeps loading' surely it stops loading eventually
[22:16] <mysteriousdarren> edbian: what did you think?
[22:16] <Tech-1> 11.10 ?
[22:16] <edbian> mysteriousdarren, I like it
[22:16] <paulsomebody> Tech-1: So, do you have any suggestions what to do? Yes, 11.10.
[22:16] <edbian> mysteriousdarren, But I use a tiling window manager now which does not have room for a dock
[22:16] <Tech-1> no, im not done 11.10 yet
[22:16] <edbian> mysteriousdarren, On my ubuntu machine I'm using stock unity
[22:16] <Tech-1> sry fella
[22:16] <mysteriousdarren> edbian: would you ever go back?
[22:17] <paulsomebody> Tech-1: With broken packages system, stuck disc tray and not logging into my accont.
[22:17] <deli> edbian, no im on another computer, i mean it shows the ubuntu logo and it stays there( no login screen)
[22:17] <paulsomebody> Tech-1: What else can go wrong?
[22:17] <Talonlite> What WM do you use edbian?
[22:17] <edbian> mysteriousdarren, I don't think so.  I am loving awesome
[22:17] <edbian> Talonlite, awesome
[22:17] <peterrus> Seveas: reconfigged udev, fixed /var/run, but still the systemboot hangs at 'running scripts /scripts/init-bottom … done' seems that it hangs just after initrd and just before the real system boot
[22:17] <Talonlite> I'll check it out
[22:17] <Tech-1> from experience, from my own machnes, it was a result of a broken X
[22:17] <peterrus> dpkg-reconfiure -a still ends with an error
[22:17] <edbian> deli, Try launching recovery mode.   You can access it by pressing shift early in the boot process.
[22:18] <usr13> _cb: grep MemTotal /proc/meminfo > sys-info ; sudo fdisk -l |grep swap >> sys-info ; pastebinit sys-info  #Show us resulting URL
[22:18] <_cb> usr13 grep MemTotal /proc/meminfo-->1017712 KB,sudo fdisk -l-->/dev/sda6        10237952    18053119     3907584   82  Linux swap / Solaris
[22:18] <paulsomebody> Tech-1: Okay, so I am already unwillingly a little geeky, I have figured that out.
[22:18] <edbian> deli, This problem is far to vague for me to know the problem much less the solution
[22:18] <peterrus> 'dpkg-maintscript-helper: error: clound't identify the package'
[22:18] <Raliegh> Back. And I don't want to re-install everything with lubuntu, I've got a lot of work currently on this machine so that's out of the question, haha.
[22:18] <Talonlite> No mouse needed O_O
[22:18] <paulsomebody> Tech-1: How do I check what _exactly_ is wrong with X from command line?
[22:18] <Talonlite> I like it already
[22:18] <edbian> Raliegh, what issue are you having?
[22:18] <Tech-1> dpkg-reconfigure xserver xorg  ?
[22:18] <edbian> Talonlite, I use the mouse occasionally but yes it is completely unnecessary
[22:18] <paulsomebody> Tech-1: Okay, will try that.
[22:19] <Tech-1> but you have to stop lightgdm first
[22:19] <edbian> Talonlite, for web browsing for example it's much faster to use the mouse
[22:19] <deli> edbian
[22:19] <Tech-1> sudo service lightgdm stop
[22:19] <Talonlite> Right of course, So atleast the option is still there
[22:19] <Talonlite> I'm gonna set it up and check it out.
[22:19] <paulsomebody> Tech-1: Okay, so switch to ssh6, do this, do that.
[22:19] <edbian> paulsomebody, read the /var/log/X.org   logs
[22:19] <Tech-1> f1 -f4
[22:19] <Raliegh> edbian nothing regarding Ubuntu anymore really. I'm tying to get VLC to do live transcoding of an Icecast stream in OGG to MP3 and push it to another Icecast mount... But I can't figure out the code for command-line. I tried installing a GUI to use VLC's GUI but that ate too much RAM and made my system unuseable, so I'm back at step one, lol.
[22:19] <paulsomebody> Tech-1: Yes, I know.
[22:20] <Tech-1> k
[22:20] <paulsomebody> edbian: Okay.
[22:20] <Tech-1> good luck
[22:20] <Marezz> anyone here has amd athlon64 3000+ @1.8GHz, 2gb ram, hd 4650 or similar config thats running unity?
[22:20] <paulsomebody> Tech-1: Let's see what else can go wrong. :)
[22:20] <edbian> paulsomebody, /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[22:20] <usr13> _cb: YOu couldn't just send the URL?
[22:20] <fuudruukers> unity?
[22:20] <paulsomebody> edbian: Looking for it, just a second.
[22:20] <Marezz> you know.. default DE for ubuntu...
[22:21] <adrian_2E0SDR> how do i install the KDE desktop in terminal?
[22:21] <fuudruukers> apt-get install kde*
[22:21] <edbian> got kicked off the wifi, I'm back
[22:21] <adrian_2E0SDR> Thanks fuudruukers
[22:21] <_cb> usr13 tried but terminal told me that pastebinit was not installed
[22:22] <paulsomebody> edbian: I cannot figure it out, can you take a look? http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/781549/
[22:22] <deli> edbian, i followed a tutorial that said i should "sudo apt-get install gdm" it then asked if it could remove "lightdm" and "ubuntu-desktop", i entered yes and after restarting it ndidnt show the login screen, it stays stuck with the ubntu logo
[22:22] <edbian> paulsomebody, looking
[22:22] <paulsomebody> edbian: Thanks.
[22:22] <edbian> deli, sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[22:23] <edbian> deli, not sure why  it wanted to get rid of that
[22:23] <edbian> deli, wait
[22:23] <edbian> deli, What are you trying to do?
[22:23] <adrian_2E0SDR> Still can't install KDE desktop in terminal with apt-get install kde*
[22:23] <edbian> deli, ubuntu uses lightdm (ldm) and unity now  this is provided through the package 'ubuntu-desktop'
[22:23] <mongy> lightdm is default, but still does not explain the removal of the it when install gdm
[22:24] <Tech-1> adrian_2E0SDR:  sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[22:24] <deli> edbian, i am trying to get the computer working again, because now i cant even log in
[22:24] <pbink> i have a fully updated 10.04 with a dual monitors setup that's working perfectly...except when i suspend and then restore the machine, the secondary monitor is disabled...if i go to System > Montiors and then turn it off and then cancel the changes it wakes up again...any ideas?
[22:24] <usr13> _cb: It probably also told you how to install it.  But that is ok.  Your RAM is, in fact, smaller than your swap partition, so that is good.  It is ok.  So that tells us that having a swap partition smaller than RAM is not the problem.  That eliminates that issue. That is all we know so far.  Looks like hibernate is just not working on your system, (and it is no fault of your own).  So...
[22:24] <mongy> both can exist, but chosen by update-alternative
[22:24] <edbian> deli, sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop   should fix everything
[22:24] <Tech-1> hope you got good hardware, thats gonna slam
[22:24] <edbian> paulsomebody, it hates your keyboard :P
[22:25] <adrian_2E0SDR> Tech-1 THANK, That Worked, Merry Christmas m8
[22:25] <Tech-1> 10-4
[22:25] <edbian> paulsomebody, what's the issue?  I don't see any others errors in your Xorg.0.log
[22:25] <edbian> Tech-1, THANK
[22:25] <paulsomebody> edbian: It will have to get used to it if it wants to stay on my hard drive. :)
[22:25] <paulsomebody> edbian: I cannot log into my accont.
[22:25] <usr13> _cb: hibernate works just fine for some, for others, not so good.  That's about all I can tell you.
[22:26] <_cb> user13 ok, thanks. Googling the problem. They suggest I try alt f1 next time it happens and see what i see.
[22:26] <edbian> paulsomebody, what happens when you try?
[22:26] <WurzDaPickles> I have done some web searches but all the answers I have come up with so far seem to have some issues, a lot of which require a reinstallation of ubuntu. The situation is: I am currently running ubuntu 11.10 64 bit on an amd machine with onboard ATI graphics. the glfrx graphics driver is not installing for me, but worked perfectly under 10.04. Does anyone have a solution that is tried and true yet? Thanks in advance.
[22:26] <mongy> Raliegh, ask in #ffmpeg they will know how to pipe from a stream into whatever
[22:26] <deli> edbian, the problem is i am not logged in and i cant log in because after turning the computer on it never gets to the login screen( just stays with the startup image)
[22:26] <edbian> deli, can you log into recovery mode?
[22:26] <paulsomebody> edbian: Every time I insert the password, the screen blanks with black for a moment and instead of logging in, I am back at LightDM.
[22:26] <paulsomebody> edbian: I am _very_ sure the password is right.
[22:26] <ztag100> Hey Guys! I decided to setup the minecraft server
[22:26] <bbbbbbbb> my kindle won't get automounted like it always did. how do i get it mounted?
[22:26] <edbian> paulsomebody, what session are you trying to log into?  unity?
[22:27] <paulsomebody> edbian: The login and X system is okay when I use the guest account.
[22:27] <paulsomebody> edbian: Yes, Unity.
[22:27] <edbian> paulsomebody, sounds like you're logging in and X is crashing
[22:27] <edbian> paulsomebody, can you log into other sessions?  for example unity 2D?
[22:27] <ztag100> but, I see the UBuntu liveCD is taking about 30 minutes to boot up
[22:27] <paulsomebody> edbian: I cannot.
[22:27] <ztag100> should I try Fedora or Mint, since I already have the CDs Burnt
[22:27] <edbian> paulsomebody, It's just your user that exhibits this issue?
[22:27] <paulsomebody> edbian: I cannot do that, but only with my default account.
[22:27] <ztag100> or should I just use DSL or Puppy?
[22:28] <paulsomebody> edbian: Yes, only that user.
[22:28] <edbian> paulsomebody, hang on, have to google something
[22:28] <paulsomebody> edbian: Thank you for the time.
[22:28] <ztag100> the laptop only has 512MB of Ram
[22:28] <angguss> ztag100: could go smaller, could use TCL
[22:28] <edbian> paulsomebody, sure
[22:28] <ztag100> TCL?
[22:28] <deli> edbian, i tried  as you said pressing shift at the startup and i saw a black screen with "GRUB loading", but then i get the strtup image again and stays there
[22:28] <ztag100> never heard of it
[22:29] <edbian> deli, press shift sooner
[22:29] <ztag100> I just need the capability to run a BukkitServer for 5 people
[22:29] <edbian> deli, hang on I will post a link
[22:29] <deli> edbian got it thanks
[22:29] <ztag100> preferably off of a liveCD
[22:29] <deli> edbian now i get a list of options wich one should i do
[22:30] <edbian> deli, recovery mode
[22:30] <edbian> deli, :)
[22:30] <edbian> paulsomebody, hang tight
[22:30] <paulsomebody> edbian: Okay. :)
[22:30] <ztag100> I'm gna try Fedora next
[22:31] <deli> edbian, now i get the options "resume, fsck, remount or root"
[22:31] <Talonlite> edbian, When you get the time may I take a look at your awesomerc file?
[22:31] <edbian> paulsomebody, can you log in as somebody else that can sudo?
[22:31] <edbian> deli, root
[22:31] <paulsomebody> edbian: Guests cannot sudo?
[22:31] <edbian> Talonlite, I'm not an that machine and I don't have access to it :(
[22:31] <bbbbbbbb>  my kindle won't get automounted like it always did. how do i get it mounted?
[22:31] <edbian> paulsomebody, I don't think guests can sudo
[22:31] <Talonlite> Damn lol, Alright i'll check out examples etc online
[22:31] <paulsomebody> edbian: Yes, that would make sense.
[22:32] <edbian> paulsomebody, if you cannot log in as anybody that can sudo then log out and press shift while the system boots in order to boot recovery mode
[22:32] <edbian> paulsomebody, indeed :)
[22:32] <paulsomebody> edbian: I suddenly remembered, I can login into my account from command line.
[22:32] <edbian> Talonlite, sure, my is hardly modified at all
[22:32] <Ben64> I've got 10.04, and X takes a LOT of cpu, it is slowing down my Team Fortress 2. How can I make it take less cpu?
[22:32] <deli> edbian, and now sudo apt-get ubuntu-desktop?
[22:32] <ztag100> Is fedora lighter than Ubuntu? I know neither are very light... but is either lighter than the other?
[22:32] <paulsomebody> edbian: On the other terminal.
[22:32] <edbian> paulsomebody, that works
[22:32] <edbian> paulsomebody, yes, tty1
[22:32] <Aka> ok well I'm gonna have to wait till I can get hardline and try again since my wireless is being goofy
[22:32] <Aka> thanks for the help those of you who chimed in
[22:32] <Aka> later
[22:32] <ztag100> anyone know if it'll work?
[22:33] <Tech-1> ztag100:  youll just have to try one
[22:33] <edbian> deli, you there?
[22:33] <edbian> paulsomebody, you there?
[22:33] <paulsomebody> edbian: Okay, I am logged in at the terminal 6.
[22:33] <ztag100> ok! when booting into fedora, my Screen gets really foggy... Guessing no good video drivers?
[22:33] <deli> edbian, yes and now sudo apt-get ubuntu-desktop?
[22:33] <edbian> deli, yes
[22:33] <ztag100> :(
[22:33] <edbian> deli, if it is already installed, purge it and then install it
[22:33] <Tech-1> ztag100:  try #fedora
[22:34] <deli> edbian, if i dont know?
[22:34] <edbian> deli, then just install, reboot, and test
[22:34] <edbian> deli, This should fix the issue.  Why did you install gdm in the first place?
[22:35] <paulsomebody> edbian: Okay, what is next for me?
[22:35] <edbian> paulsomebody, sudo rm /home/you/.ICEAuthority
[22:36] <deli> edbian, was following a tutorial to disable or remove unity
[22:36] <edbian> paulsomebody, that file controls login credentials for GUI
[22:36] <paulsomebody> edbian: I cannot copy/paste things between terminals?
[22:36] <edbian> deli, ha, the instructions I'm giving put unity back
[22:36] <edbian> paulsomebody, annoyingly, no
[22:36] <edbian> paulsomebody, but you can use tab completion
[22:36] <paulsomebody> edbian: Okay, what would I do next?
[22:37] <edbian> paulsomebody, You removed the file?  try to log in in the gui again
[22:37] <paulsomebody> edbian: Okay.
[22:37] <edbian> deli, Do you not want to do that?
[22:37] <deli> edbian, i havent doine anything yet, should i do something else?
[22:37] <edbian> deli, sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop if you want unity back and to be able to log in again.
[22:38] <Talonlite> kk gonna test awesome brb.
[22:38] <deli> edbian, if you wanna see the tutorial heres the link:http://linux-software-news-tutorials.blogspot.com/2011/10/ubuntu-1110-oneiric-remove-unity-and.html
[22:38] <edbian> deli, If you want e.g. xfce   run this: sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[22:38] <wolfmitchell> How do I make the grub menu show on startup?
[22:38] <edbian> deli, reading...
[22:38] <edbian> wolfmitchell, press shift
[22:38] <Ben64> I've got 10.04, and X takes a LOT of cpu, it is slowing down my Team Fortress 2. How can I make it take less cpu?
[22:38] <edbian> wolfmitchell, very early in the boot, before you see anything ubuntu related
[22:38] <deli> edbian, what should i do if i want the gnome classics
[22:39] <usr13>  wolfmitchell Hold down shift key
[22:39] <wolfmitchell> I mean without that, eg perminently (sp)
[22:39] <edbian> deli, lemme look it up
[22:39] <deli> edbian, it went wrong for me at step 2
[22:39] <edbian> deli, reading...
[22:40] <paulsomebody> edbian: It did not work, same blinking issue.
[22:41] <edbian> paulsomebody, perhaps you can give me a hint as to why you think it's doing this?  Did cause X to crash?  Did you change anything recently?
[22:41] <edbian> deli, Those instructions should work.  You're logged in as root right?  Did you run any commands?
[22:41] <deli> edbian, when i "sudo apt-get install gdm"  and  "sudo apt-get purge lightdm" my computer asked to remove lightdm and ubuntu-desktop and everything went wrong after rebooting
[22:41] <THEROOT> anyone can help me to add a domain to bind9?
[22:41] <deli> edbian no not yet
[22:42] <edbian> deli, yeah, well, sudo apt-get install gdm
[22:42] <paulsomebody> edbian: Well, first my package system broke, then my disc tray stuck, then when I was trying to eject disk while rebooting THIS happened.
[22:42] <edbian> deli, Let's just do steps 1 and 2 here in the root term
[22:42] <edbian> paulsomebody, haha, everything all at once huh
[22:42] <edbian> paulsomebody, sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[22:42] <pbink> can anyone point me in the right direction of getting a script to run when you restore a suspended system?
[22:42] <ztag100> Alright
[22:42] <edbian> paulsomebody, that should repair packages or yell about being broken
[22:42] <ztag100> won't work on fedora either
[22:43] <pbink> i need to reset my monitors because the secondary one never "wakes up" when i suspend and restore
[22:43] <ztag100> should I try a different light weight distro?
[22:43] <paulsomebody> edbian: Only things I changed was devices boot order - I thought that since the BIOS is trying to boot from disc, that is why I cannot eject it at startup.
[22:43] <ztag100> such as DSL or Puppy?
[22:43] <Tech-1> ztag100:  debian should work fine
[22:43] <deli> edbian, i dont know if i got an error or not.
[22:43] <edbian> paulsomebody, perhaps, that should be unrelated.  Run that apt-get stuff
[22:43] <paulsomebody> edbian: That was naive. :( I tried that myself.
[22:43] <edbian> deli, read it and figure it out
[22:43] <paulsomebody> edbian: This problem was caused by Samba4, that much I know.
[22:43] <ztag100> tech-1 can I use Debian on a liveCD?
[22:44] <edbian> paulsomebody, did you run the apt-get commands?
[22:44] <paulsomebody> edbian: It fails to configure, and now I cannot install or update anything.
[22:44] <paulsomebody> edbian: Yes, of course.
[22:44] <edbian> paulsomebody, sudo apt-get -f install
[22:44] <edbian> paulsomebody, that attempts to fix broken packages.  Read what is says and follow directions
[22:44] <paulsomebody> edbian: I think I have tried that, but I will double check.
[22:44] <ztag100> ok, fedora just booted
[22:44] <edbian> paulsomebody, alright
[22:44] <ztag100> but no wirless
[22:44] <edbian> ztag100, this is the ubuntu channel
[22:44] <ztag100> I know
[22:44] <deli> edbian, i got 3 lines:W: Not using locking for read only lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock
[22:45] <ztag100> Is there a general linux channel?
[22:45] <Tech-1>  ##linux
[22:45] <edbian> deli, ok to solve the error run this: sudo rm /var/lib/dpkg/lock
[22:45] <ztag100> I should have guessed :P
[22:45] <deli> edbian, then E: unable to write to /var/cache/apt
[22:45] <paulsomebody> edbian: No, sorry.
[22:45] <edbian> deli, are you running apt-get with sudo ??
[22:45] <edbian> paulsomebody, no?
[22:45] <deli> edbian, yes
[22:46] <paulsomebody> edbian: It still says 'Errors were encountered while processing'.
[22:46] <edbian> deli, sudo rm -r /var/cache/apt/
[22:46] <edbian> paulsomebody, can you give me more info?  errors while processing what package?
[22:46] <edbian> paulsomebody, did it ask you any questions?
[22:46] <paulsomebody> edbian: Samba4.
[22:46] <edbian> deli, then sudo apt-get update
[22:46] <paulsomebody> edbian: It did not.
[22:46] <edbian> paulsomebody, sudo apt-get purge samba4
[22:47] <elgruntox> hiya yall im having an issue with ssl and my ubuntu install. for some reason I cant curl https://steampowered.com/ even though its CA is in my stuff all fine. Any ideas?
[22:47] <deli> edbian, and the 3rd: E: the package listst or status file could not be parsed or opene
[22:47] <edbian> deli, the command I gave last will fix that error as well
[22:47] <paulsomebody> edbian: Haha. I tried being mean with this package, still the same error.
[22:47] <edbian> paulsomebody, I need more info.  If sudo apt-get -f install and sudo apt-get purge samba4 wont' get ride of it it must provide more errors
[22:48] <edbian> paulsomebody, or some instructions or something
[22:48] <paulsomebody> edbian: I am trying to find error log I posted earlier.
[22:48] <markus> hi all,
[22:48] <edbian> paulsomebody, It should yell stuff at you from this most recent command
[22:48] <markus> I have a question about my distro version
[22:48] <Waraudon> Why would Ubuntu Server suddenly be renaming my eth0 interface to eth2 at boot every time?
[22:48] <edbian> paulsomebody, old error logs may be incorrect now that we've run so many commands
[22:49] <paulsomebody> edbian: This command(s) was the first things I tried. :)
[22:49] <deli> edbian, your very first fix( sudo rm ..) didnt work: cannot remove ...: read-only file system
[22:49] <edbian> deli, ugh
[22:49]  * mf|laptop runs screaming from the room noting the "Read only file system"
[22:49] <edbian> deli, log out, boot ubuntu normally, when it stops running press ctrl + alt + F1
[22:50] <edbian> deli, See if you can log in via CLI
[22:50] <mf|laptop> sorry bringing back some memories of the VPS "Incident"
[22:50] <edbian> deli, Then we can try these commands again and things should not be read only
[22:50] <deli> edbian, how to log out from terminal
[22:50] <edbian> paulsomebody, Ask the channel how to remove samba and explain how you cannot and you will get answers I think
[22:51] <edbian> deli, sudo shutdown -r now  (to reboot)  exit (to logout)
[22:51] <Waraudon> kernel: [14.710438] <30>udev[372]: renamed network interface eth0 to eth2, happening every boot even though nothing was changed
[22:51] <paulsomebody> edbian: Sane idea, there must be #samba over there somewhere.
[22:51] <edbian> paulsomebody, You should ask in this channel
[22:51] <edbian> paulsomebody, It has more to do with apt-get than samba
[22:51] <deli> edbian, should i reboot or log out
[22:51] <edbian> deli, Yes
[22:51] <edbian> deli, do booth
[22:51] <Seveas> Waraudon, check /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules
[22:51] <edbian> paulsomebody, It is very strange that you cannot uninstall a package
[22:51] <paulsomebody> Okay, how do I brutally murder samba4 package that have prevented my package system from functioning?
[22:52] <deli> sudo shutdown -r now exit
[22:52] <paulsomebody> I think now simply removing it would not be satisfactory enough.
[22:52] <edbian> deli, the exit isn't necessary if you're rebooting
[22:52] <Waraudon> Seveas: I have checked it and removed the offending eth2 line, but it comes back automatically every time. I used to have a line in /etc/network/interfaces for eth0 that changed its hwaddress, but I've since removed that. 'ifconfig eth2' still shows the old address that I used to have set, why?
[22:52] <edbian> paulsomebody, purge is the strongest remove there is
[22:52] <deli> edbian, wrong keyboard:)
[22:53] <edbian> deli, and if you wanna do two commands you do this: command1 && command 2
[22:53] <paulsomebody> edbian: And if it is not helping?
[22:53] <edbian> deli, haha
[22:53] <edbian> paulsomebody, that's what I'm saying.  Ask the channel.  I do not know why it won't uninstall
[22:53] <Ben64> when packages have scripts to be run on removal, and they do not exit correctly, it can cause packages to be unremovable
[22:53] <edbian> Ben64, how can we fix this?  edit the script by hand?
[22:53] <Ben64> yeah
[22:53] <paulsomebody> edbian: I think I know the answer. Wait for a second to get the mystery unveiled.
[22:53] <edbian> paulsomebody, alright
[22:53] <edbian> Ben64, that sounds fun
[22:53] <Ben64> its not
[22:54] <Ben64> good thing it doesn't happen often
[22:56] <paulsomebody> edbian: Okay, I have found the old log. http://paste.ubuntu.com/776580/
[22:56] <paulsomebody> edbian: The message is still the same.
[22:57] <edbian> paulsomebody, reading...
[22:57] <edbian> paulsomebody, sudo rm /etc/samba/smb.conf
[22:57] <edbian> paulsomebody, sudo apt-get purge samba4
[22:57] <edbian> paulsomebody, It said the config file was messed up
[22:58] <paulsomebody> edbian: Yes, I have tried that days ago.
[22:58] <deli> edbian, i get a list of things the computer is trying to do to shutdown( last line is "checking battery state [OK]") but it doesnt shut down(justning it off and on cause any harm?)
[22:58] <Ben64> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[22:58] <elgruntox> hey anyone know why my ubuntu server isnt verifying certain CA's
[22:58] <Ben64> yep, script
[22:58] <elgruntox> even though i totaly have them installed
[22:58] <paulsomebody> edbian: It still asks me to remove the config file, even AFTER I removed it.
[22:58] <edbian> paulsomebody, go to /etc/samba
[22:58] <edbian> is it still there?
[22:58] <edbian> paulsomebody, perhaps you made a typo?
[22:58] <edbian> Ben64, mmmm
[22:59] <paulsomebody> edbian: It comes back every time I am trying to do something with packages and it tries to configure samba4.
[22:59] <paulsomebody> edbian: Okay, I will try that again.
[22:59] <deli> edbian, i get a list of things the computer is trying to do to shutdown( last line is "checking battery state [OK]") but it doesnt shut down(just turnning it off and on cause any harm?)
[22:59] <edbian> paulsomebody, sudo apt-get -f install  (with the config file removed)
[22:59] <edbian> deli, yeah just shut it off.  It will be fine
[23:00] <paulsomebody> edbian: Okay, I removed entire /etc/samba, this should do the trick.
[23:00] <Ben64> doubtful :(
[23:00] <edbian> paulsomebody, uhh, yeah hopefully
[23:00] <edbian> :(
[23:00] <edbian> :/
[23:00] <Ben64> i can't remember where the scripts are run from...
[23:00] <edbian> :-
[23:00] <edbian> :\
[23:00] <paulsomebody> edbian: Nope, we have got a dangerous schizophrenic package on out hands. :)
[23:00] <edbian> :|
[23:01] <deli> edbian, so now i start the normal oneor "previous linux version" or memory test?
[23:01] <edbian> paulsomebody, Ben64 thinks the remove / install script is broke
[23:01] <edbian> deli, prev
[23:01] <edbian> deli, not 'mem test'
[23:01] <paulsomebody> edbian: Which reminds, I can talk to the Samba developers, there is a relevant bug.
[23:01] <edbian> paulsomebody, can you run sudo samba4 --configure   ?
[23:01] <edbian> paulsomebody, there appears to be a bug in samba now, yes
[23:02] <jerry1453> hello
[23:02] <paulsomebody> edbian: We will see in a minute. :)
[23:02] <edbian> Ben64, we can't even tell what line the problem is on!
[23:02] <deli> edbian, ok now i get the normal prev version and the recovery previous one
[23:02] <edbian> deli, launch normal
[23:03] <edbian> deli, and it should exhibit the problem it was having before correct?
[23:03] <edbian> deli, I'm flying blind here
[23:03] <paulsomebody> edbian: No, I cannot. It says 'command not found'.
[23:03] <paulsomebody> edbian: But package is still there.
[23:03] <deli> edbian, ok but yes, no login screen in the previous version too
[23:04] <edbian> paulsomebody, I have no idea
[23:04] <mongy> deli, do you boot up with noacpi ?
[23:04] <Ben64> paulsomebody: rm /var/lib/dpkg/info/<package name(s)>
[23:04] <edbian> deli, press control + alt + F1
[23:04] <paulsomebody> Ben64: Oh, I have not done that yet.
[23:04] <edbian> Ben64, which names?
[23:04] <Ben64> paulsomebody:  dpkg --remove --force-remove-reinstreq <package name>
[23:04] <Ben64> samba4 or something
[23:04] <edbian> try that stuff
[23:04] <Ben64> dunno how it is exactly
[23:04] <deli> mongy, dont know??
[23:04] <paulsomebody> Ben64: Yes, that should about cover my desire to get revenge on that package. :)
[23:04] <Ben64> :)
[23:05] <deli> edbian, i get a list now, but no action
[23:05] <edbian> mongy, he was following these instructions: http://linux-software-news-tutorials.blogspot.com/2011/10/ubuntu-1110-oneiric-remove-unity-and.html
[23:05] <Ben64> there should be a few things matching samba in there
[23:05] <edbian> deli, a list?
[23:05] <edbian> deli, I'm confused, you should be able to log in CLI
[23:05] <amaroks> Guys
[23:05] <markus> I installed Xubuntu, from the Xubuntu xfce version I downloaded ubuntu destkop package through commandline, now I can boot in GNOME session. My etc/ folder however contains a debian-version file and no other version file.. which distro do I have?
[23:06] <Ben64> ubuntu and xubuntu are still ubuntu
[23:06] <amaroks> WHats the damn  lockpad on some folders I download , keeps giving permision denied, I know I can do sudo in ssh but how to deal with that in GUI
[23:06] <deli> edbian, yea a list with starting..., starting ..., stopping..., stopping..., last line is : stopping mount filesystems on boot  [OK]
[23:06] <markus> ty Ben :) any clue why I have the debian version file?
[23:06] <paulsomebody> Ben64: Hooray, the genocide of samba packages on my system have been successful.
[23:06] <Ben64> :D
[23:07] <edbian> deli, something is wrong with your hdd (this is the second clue)
[23:07] <edbian> deli, can you boot a live CD?
[23:07] <Waraudon> Fixed it, I had to delete /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules entirely
[23:07] <Waraudon> and it finally worked
[23:07] <Ben64> markus: ubuntu is based off of debian
[23:07] <paulsomebody> Okay, no everything i am left with is broken account and stuck disc tray. :)
[23:07] <edbian> paulsomebody, Ben64 :)
[23:07] <markus> ah, nice didnt know :) tyvm!
[23:07] <markus> and good night or whatever time it is where u are^^
[23:07] <paulsomebody> edbian: Ben64: Thanks guys, we did it. :)
[23:07] <Waraudon> I still have no idea how eth0 got changed to eth2 even though nothing happened, other than I think the server may have reset because of a brief power outage
[23:08] <deli> edbian, i think i have a usb here, but not sure if it is ubuntu or xubuntu
[23:08] <edbian> deli, I think the instructions you followed was simply a coincidence
[23:08] <amaroks> any help please? I asked a simple question for anyone who have used ubuntu for couple of months ... :(
[23:08] <edbian> deli, doesn't matter, boot it
[23:08] <edbian> deli, I wouldn't care if it had slackware on it
[23:08] <Ben64> amaroks: you could do "gksudo nautilus"
[23:08] <edbian> amaroks, a lock on a file means that file is not readable by your user
[23:08] <Ben64> but beware!
[23:09] <deli> edbian, ok just a sec
[23:09] <edbian> amaroks, What are you using to download these files that have locks on them?
[23:09] <edbian> deli, sure
[23:09] <edbian> deli, the rabbit hole is deep
[23:09] <Ben64> oh, downloaded files
[23:09] <Ben64> can't you right click and change permissions?
[23:09] <edbian> Ben64, that's what I'm confused about
[23:09] <edbian> Ben64, firefox writes them all as your user
[23:10] <deli> edbian, the list bis still there and nothing has happened, should i just turn it off
[23:10] <Ben64> anyway, time to see if xubuntu fixes my problem
[23:10] <amaroks> edbian: firefox
[23:10] <edbian> deli, yeah, turn the machine off and boot the live USB you have
[23:10] <edbian> amaroks, are you running firefox as root?
[23:10] <amaroks> now transmission has lock inside
[23:10] <edbian> amaroks, how are you running firefox?  who are you logged in as?
[23:11] <amaroks> No , I'm just logging in with a username
[23:11] <amaroks> im not logged in as root
[23:11] <edbian> amaroks, how are you running firefox?
[23:11] <amaroks> click on it and it runs :D
[23:11] <edbian> amaroks, in a terminal what is the output of 'whoami' ?
[23:11] <edbian> without quotes
[23:11] <amaroks> mody
[23:11] <paulsomebody> Okay, can anyone help me with the stuck CD tray?
[23:12] <amaroks> how can I give root access to my username?
[23:12] <edbian> amaroks, can you right click the files and change the permissions in 'properties' ?
[23:12] <edbian> amaroks, using sudo
[23:12] <amaroks> no, wont let me change properties
[23:12] <edbian> amaroks, what filesystem are you on?
[23:12] <edbian> amaroks, are you saving the files onto your hdd?  an external?
[23:12] <amaroks> hdd
[23:12] <edbian> amaroks, do other programs create locked files?
[23:13] <amaroks> nah just some
[23:13] <edbian> amaroks, which ones?
[23:13] <amaroks> any can be, downloaded folder
[23:13] <edbian> amaroks, what?
[23:13] <amaroks> now its a lock in .config/transmission
[23:13] <Tech-1> paulsomebody:  get a paper clip and use the small hole in the front, it has to be straight
[23:13] <deli> edbian, ok its xubuntu and i get a list of options: try without installing, install xu..,check disc for defects, test memory  or boot from first hard disk
[23:13] <edbian> deli, try
[23:13] <edbian> deli, see if this live USB can boot :)
[23:14] <edbian> deli, cross your findgers
[23:14] <edbian> fingers*
[23:14] <edbian> amaroks, can you pastebin the output of ls -l ~ and ~/Downloads   ?  paste.ubuntu.com
[23:14] <jrogge> hey i'm having trouble with directories. I have my usb in my computer and it's in the folder media which is in file system, and to download something i have to specify a directory. what would i use?
[23:15] <jrogge> i.e. what is the directory name of file system ?
[23:15] <edbian> amaroks, actually, just show me the output of ls -la ~/Downloads
[23:15] <amaroks> there is no problem in downloaded items now
[23:15] <edbian> jrogge, /media/<your usb>/
[23:15] <amaroks> Now for an example I can't run transmission
[23:15] <edbian> amaroks, what?
[23:15] <schnuffle1> jrogge: you mean: where is my USB-Stick mounted? Should be in /media/<usb>/
[23:15] <deli> edbian, ok it worked
[23:15] <paulsomebody> Tech-1: Decorative panel covers that.
[23:15] <edbian> deli, awesome, can you run gparted?
[23:15] <amaroks> says permission denied
[23:16] <edbian> amaroks, I don't understand the problem.
[23:16] <Tech-1> wow
[23:16] <elgruntox> anyone have any issues with ssl CA certs in ubuntu server? because I cant curl anything https and its annoying! same with wget and python
[23:16] <Tech-1> lol
[23:16] <edbian> amaroks, You can't run transmission?
[23:16] <paulsomebody> Tech-1: My point is that over disc tray there is another one, without holes on it. :)
[23:16] <edbian> Tech-1, what are you laughing at?
[23:16] <jrogge> oh thanks
[23:16] <paulsomebody> edbian: Me. :)
[23:16] <edbian> haha
[23:16] <edbian> decorative covers :P
[23:17] <deli> edbian, its not in the accesoires, where to find or how from terminal?
[23:17] <amaroks> No
[23:17] <edbian> deli, from a terminal
[23:17] <edbian> deli, gksudo gparted
[23:17] <Tech-1> paulsomebody:  maybe during bios powerup, keep hitting eject button ?
[23:17] <amaroks> Well I simple want to have root access with my username , isnlt this possible with ubuntu?
[23:17] <e2b04836> amaroks: yes, use the sudo command
[23:17] <amaroks> not in SSH
[23:17] <edbian> amaroks, use sudo
[23:18] <edbian> amaroks, gksudo nautilus
[23:18] <paulsomebody> edbian: Tech-1: Do you  think I can break it if I try remove it manually? I have tried removing it during boot, it gave me another problem which I am trying to fix even now. :)
[23:18] <edbian> paulsomebody, what remove the CD drive?  turn the computer off and go crazy!
[23:18] <Tech-1> ya, you could take the tray out of time
[23:18] <paulsomebody> Okay, good news.
[23:18] <edbian> tray, you have no chance to survive, make your time
[23:18] <deli> edbian, ok i get an exclamation mark at one of the 3 partitions
[23:18] <edbian> all your base...
[23:18] <paulsomebody> Decorative cover can removed easily and painlessly.
[23:18] <edbian> deli, I thought so, right click it and hit properties, any info?
[23:18] <Tech-1> getRdone
[23:18] <Waraudon> Is there any way to prevent udev from messing around with my network interfaces in the future?
[23:19] <edbian> deli, what partition?  / ?
[23:19] <amaroks> I downloaded a file and its name it has (
[23:19] <edbian> deli, try to use gparted to 'check' the partition
[23:19] <edbian> amaroks, so what?
[23:19] <amaroks> cant excute that via shell nor rename it , bash sysntax near (
[23:20] <amaroks> How do I deal with this?
[23:20] <e2b04836> amaroks: put the filename in "s
[23:20] <edbian> amaroks, mv \(file file
[23:20] <deli> edbian, cant do that, its greyed out
[23:20] <edbian> amaroks, or quote it
[23:20] <amaroks> \
[23:20] <amaroks> dpesnt escape it
[23:20] <amaroks> tried already
[23:20] <edbian> deli, what can't you do?
[23:20] <deli> edbian, the check, its greyed out, cant click it
[23:21] <Boreeas> I accidentally stopped the ftpd on my remote server, and when I started it again, it started messing up. Every time I click a folder now, it tells me "Couldn't receive directory listing"
[23:21] <Boreeas> How do I fix that?
[23:21] <edbian> deli, can you right click the partition and click information?
[23:21] <edbian> deli, if you highlight a partition does 'check' ungrey itself?
[23:21] <paulsomebody> edbian: Ben64: Bad news: pushing the paper clip through a hole only produced a really weird noise.
[23:22] <edbian> paulsomebody, perhaps it was a fun or enjoyable noise?
[23:22] <edbian> paulsomebody, that drive sounds physically broken
[23:22] <Ben64> paulsomebody: probably a silly question, but does "eject" work
[23:22] <e2b04836> paulsomebody: was the drive on at the time?
[23:22] <Tech-1> ya, its still turning, it has to be straight and forced straight, once the tray starts to come out, you have to grab it and pull it the rest of the way
[23:22] <deli> edbian, if i rightclick it it is highlighted by definition right?
[23:22] <edbian> deli, yes
[23:23] <Ben64> and yeah, if the disc is spinning it will make a noise, but it will still come out
[23:23] <edbian> deli, perhaps the other partitions can be checked?  (to test how to ungrey check and how to highlight a partition)
[23:23] <deli> edbian, on rightclicking the check is greyed out
[23:23] <edbian> deli, mmm, what about 'information' of that partitin?  (in the right click menu)
[23:23] <deli> edbian, file system unknown
[23:23] <edbian> deli, be sure this is the partitions of the hdd and not of the usb stick (which also might have 3 partitions)
[23:24] <edbian> deli, can you show me a screenshot?  imageshack.us
[23:24] <deli> edbian, im on another computer
[23:24] <edbian> deli, so?
[23:24] <mongy> Boreeas, how about just a refresh of the listing?
[23:24] <edbian> deli, (I knew that)
[23:24] <deli> edbian, ok just a sec
[23:24] <edbian> :)
[23:25] <mongy> Boreeas, consider using ssh, it has sftp built in.
[23:25] <edbian> deli, perhaps the target machine (running the USB live stick) is not online.  That is an issue
[23:25] <paulsomebody> edbian: Ben64: e2b04836: I am into the noise music, so, yes, the noise we enjoyable. But it did not sound very healthy.
[23:25] <paulsomebody> e2b04836: Yes, the disc was there at the time.
[23:25] <amaroks> edbian: Im fine with the permision thing I got another small question, I layed with compiz-config then had problems , so I removed it now if I boot normally I dont see windows shadow more
[23:26] <edbian> amaroks, you 'layed' with it?
[23:26] <paulsomebody> Tech-1: Yes, that is what I did.
[23:26] <amaroks> How can I reset my GUI to exactly how i was when Installed ubuntu?
[23:26] <Boreeas> mongy: I'm actually using filezilla for ftp, which I find more intuitive to use
[23:26] <deli> edbian, ill just use a usb to transfer it to this com, just a sec
[23:26] <amaroks> I have finally moved to ubuntu
[23:26] <mongy> amaroks, make a new user and login.
[23:26] <amaroks> Well I have some emails profiles
[23:26] <mongy> Boreeas, refresh it then.  filezilla like many caches it
[23:26] <edbian> deli, ok
[23:27] <Tech-1> paulsomebody:  then try it with the machine off,
[23:27] <deli> edbian, how to take a screenshot and save in (x)ubuntu
[23:27] <amaroks> how can I reset everything in gui for my username? i tried some tricks online like rm -rf .gnome .gnome2 etc.., it did not do it
[23:27] <e2b04836> Boreeas: did you start the ftpd as root?
[23:27] <edbian> amaroks, http://www.webupd8.org/2011/04/how-to-reset-unity-launcher-icons-or.html
[23:27] <mongy> deli, prntscrn
[23:27]  * Tech-1 goes for coffee brb
[23:27] <Boreeas> e2b04836: Should be, yes
[23:28] <paulsomebody> Okay, I did put the disc out of the drive; but it is still making noise, like trying to spin the drive. And the red light is shining inside, so that probably means that the laser is still on.
[23:28] <paulsomebody> I will reboot and see what happens.
[23:28] <e2b04836> Boreeas: well i'd check the permissions on the directory to make sure the ftp user can actually read from them
[23:28] <paulsomebody> Thanks for the help, everyone.
[23:28] <edbian> deli, xfce4-screenshootern:
[23:28] <edbian> deli, at it to your panel or run it in the term
[23:29] <edbian> deli, without that : at the end of course
[23:29] <edbian> add it to*
[23:30] <Boreeas> e2b04836: Well, I'm trying to read from my home directory. Would be horrible if I didn't have read permissions there :D
[23:32] <edbian> deli, ?
[23:33] <e2b04836> Boreeas: try this: http://www.nodans.com/index.cfm/2008/4/24/Fix-for-Filezilla-Failing-to-Retrieve-Directory-Listing other than that i have no idea
[23:33] <deli> edbian, it is taking some time, sorry
[23:33] <edbian> deli, that's ok :)
[23:35] <Boreeas> e2b04836: Hmm, didn't work :/
[23:35] <Boreeas> Thanks for your time, though
[23:36] <paulsomebody> Okay, thank you everyone. Simply turning the power off and the booting up fixed the issue after I removed the disc.
[23:36] <Tech-1> cool
[23:36] <Tech-1> throw that disc away
[23:36] <deli> edbian, cant mount the usb in the comp, but there is another problem, after closing and reopening gparted , now another partition of the hd has an exclamation mark
[23:37] <paulsomebody> It appears I have been doing it wrong before, judging from the fact that rebooting did not help.
[23:37] <edbian> deli, sounds like the drive is failing,  I suggest getting your data off it using the live USB
[23:37] <paulsomebody> Tech-1: I am not superstitious, so I checked it on the other laptop. It is simply unreadable.
[23:37] <Tech-1> next time, trun the machine off, to remove the cd
[23:37] <paulsomebody> Tech-1: Yes, sounds much better then what I did.
[23:38] <Tech-1> your good 2 go
[23:38] <paulsomebody> No, that still leaves me unable to login.
[23:38] <allu2> Hello, i tried installing ubuntu on 500GB external HD with tough i can just plug it in and use my home system anywhere i go, well works just perfectly on the eeepc i used to install the system on the hd but when i try on my desktop grub doesn't seem to start, how i can solve this and boot the full installation on any computer ubuntu runs on?
[23:38] <deli> edbian, no way to fix it?( this one doesnt have the check greyed out)
[23:38] <edbian> deli, try to check
[23:38] <edbian> deli, try to repair
[23:39] <edbian> deli, but backing up your data is the priority
[23:39] <paulsomebody> allu2: You need to go to BIOS and specify from which drive to boot.
[23:39] <edbian> deli, booting it, checking it, and repairing it may damage it worse
[23:39] <paulsomebody> allu2: That must be DEL or F8 key while rebooting.
[23:39] <allu2> paulsomebody: i selected the HD but was greeted by blinkin promp with no progress
[23:39] <allu2> paulsomebody: f8, and i selected the right HD, and double checked :)
[23:39] <paulsomebody> allu2: I think you must simply wait for a minute.
[23:39] <paulsomebody> allu2: While at the blinking promt.
[23:39] <allu2> i went to wash my theeths :P
[23:40] <Tech-1> lol
[23:40] <edbian> deli, how old is this hdd?
[23:40] <edbian> hdd's usually last around 5 - 7 years
[23:40] <allu2> paulsomebody: it shouldn't take more then 30 for grub to start
[23:40] <deli> edbian, 2 years maybe or less
[23:40] <allu2> ubuntu starting i can understand if it takes a while but i can't get to grub
[23:40] <paulsomebody> allu2: I know, but sometimes it does. Happened to me before.
[23:40] <edbian> deli, mmm, I could be wrong and it just needs to be repartitioned.  In either case you'll want to get the data backed up
[23:41] <deli> edbian, check and repair finished(in only 28 sec) but the exclamation mark is still there
[23:41] <paulsomebody> allu2: Are you sure that you have written GRUB on that external disk, not on the MBR of your laptop?
[23:41] <insectatorious> 'buntu 11.10 using Gnome Shell. Any way to clear all notifications on the bottom right side of the screen?
[23:41] <edbian> deli, right click, read information, tell me what it says
[23:41] <allu2> paulsomebody: i recall doing that, how i check again?
[23:41] <_chaos_> ok im fukn trippin where the heck can i customize this ubuntu 11.10 interface, white bright shiit dont cut it for me... PLEASE HELP!!!!
[23:42] <paulsomebody> _chaos_: Patience, do not swear.
[23:42] <_chaos_> this nig high n trippin wtf
[23:42] <_chaos_> please its been too long. i tried lookin a few times
[23:42] <allu2> _chaos_: search kde, xfce4, gnome-shell... also "customizing unity" on google might bring something up :)
[23:42] <paulsomebody> _chaos_: Use the force to calm your mind and use MyUnity to customize Unity.
[23:42] <Tech-1> lol
[23:42] <allu2> :D
[23:42] <_chaos_> alright im gonna try it
[23:43] <_chaos_> word paulsomebody
[23:43] <_chaos_> thanks yallz :)
[23:43] <paulsomebody> _chaos_: Okay, I can even give you the link.
[23:43] <paulsomebody> _chaos_: Since you have tried.
[23:43] <_chaos_> slow down i like to search
[23:43] <allu2> paulsomebody: so how i can see wherher grub was installed on the external HD, /boot/grub ?
[23:43] <paulsomebody> allu2: Hmm. I am not sure, better ask someone else.
[23:44] <tab1293> i installed node.js in ubuntu by sudo apt-get install nodejs nodejs-dev nodejs-dbg but i cant use npm install socket.io to install socket.io because ubuntu doesnt recognize npm as a command. anyone know how to install npm?
[23:44] <edbian> allu2, the easy way or the hard way?
[23:44] <Ben64> So, when I run TF2 or even just move a window around the screen, X uses a lot of CPU. Is there anything I can do to lessen it? It messes with my fps in game.
[23:44] <allu2> edbian: fast way :)
[23:44] <paulsomebody> _chaos_: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/12/unity-tweak-tool-myunity-gets-new-look-coming-to-ubuntu-software-centre/
[23:45] <paulsomebody> Okay, I have been nice; can someone please help me login now?
[23:45] <edbian> allu2, boot that hdd (does it boot?)
[23:45] <allu2> Ben64: nvidia proprietary?
[23:45] <Ben64> allu2: yep
[23:45] <edbian> paulsomebody, still can't login?
[23:45] <allu2> edbian: boots on the eeepc
[23:45] <edbian> allu2, how many hdd's do you have?
[23:45] <deli> edbian, file sys: ext4,  size 150 gb. flags: boot, path: dev/sda1, status: not mounted, label (empty), uuid(empty), first sector: 2048, last sector: 310505741, total sec: 310503424, warning: failed to change to directory'.'(stale nfs file handle)(twice, unbable to read contents of file system
[23:45] <Ben64> but my laptop on intel uses a lot of CPU while moving a window around too
[23:45] <paulsomebody> edbian: No, but we fixed the rest of the issues.
[23:45] <allu2> Ben64: try running "metacity --replace" before playing games, worked miracles for me
[23:45] <edbian> deli, stale nfs file handle huh.  googling that...
[23:45] <allu2> edbian: one on eeepc, one external, one on my desktop computer
[23:46] <deli> edbian,firefox
[23:46] <paulsomebody> _chaos_: Tell me if it worked for you.
[23:46] <Tech-1> which eeeps you have
[23:46] <edbian> deli, sorry?
[23:46] <Tech-1> eeepc
[23:47] <deli> edbian, wrong keyboard again sorry
[23:47] <allu2> Tech-1: uh 1001PX i think
[23:47] <hiexpo> merry x-mas all
[23:47] <Tech-1> ok
[23:47] <allu2> hiexpo: merry x-mas
[23:48] <mongy> merry xmas in 12 mins
[23:48] <allu2> is it possible to install multiple proprietary graphics drivers? if i'm moving the HD around different HW would love to have drivers for all sorts of cards
[23:48] <allu2> nother trick to show off my friends ;)
[23:48] <edbian> deli, what partition are we talking about?
[23:48] <paulsomebody> mongy: That strongly depends on the timezone, you know. :)
[23:48] <insectatorious> 'buntu 11.10 using Gnome Shell. Any way to clear all notifications on the bottom right side of the screen?
[23:48] <edbian> deli, sudo e2fsck -p /dev/sd<letter>
[23:49] <allu2> mongy: 1:48 am here :D
[23:49] <hiexpo> nope only one at atime allu2
[23:49] <edbian> deli, sorry, sudo e2fsck -p /dev/sd<letter><number>
[23:49] <edbian> deli, You can get the letter / number by using gparted
[23:49] <allu2> edbian: so how i see if the grub is installed on the correct device?
[23:49] <edbian> deli, this command attempts to fix the partition in question.
[23:49] <edbian> allu2, boot that device
[23:49] <edbian> allu2, if grub is installed you will see grub / linux
[23:50] <deli> edbian, it says clean
[23:50] <hiexpo> hola edbian
[23:50] <paulsomebody> There must be connected issue - I can neither shut down or reboot from LightDM, nor login.
[23:50] <edbian> hiexpo, hi
[23:50] <edbian> deli, do it on all the partitions that had issues
[23:50] <edbian> deli, restart gparted
[23:50] <edbian> deli, see if the triangles go away
[23:51] <edbian> deli, You can run sudo e2fsck -p -v  /dev/sd<letter><number>  to get more info (add -v)
[23:51] <paulsomebody> edbian: I am using an encrypted /home, may this be relevant?
[23:51] <allu2> edbian: ok, but this doesn't make sense, since the grub when i boot from external HD shows the ubuntu on the external HD and on the eeepc, but when i boot from eeepc hd i see only eeepc ubuntu as option, henche grub should be installed on the external hd, yet still it doesn't load on my desktop computer
[23:51] <edbian> paulsomebody, maybe
[23:51] <deli> edbian the other one says bad magic number in super- block while trying to open /dev/sda5
[23:52] <edbian> deli, did it fix that issue?
[23:52] <edbian> deli, or just freak
[23:52] <deli> edbian, it says you might try running e2fsck with an alternate superblock
[23:52] <edbian> deli, how many partitions you got?  (don't check non-ext partitions)
[23:52] <deli> edbian 3
[23:52] <allu2> is there possibly some "simpler" boot loader that would automaticly load the ubuntu on the HD ?
[23:53] <allu2> syslinux?
[23:54] <somasin> whats the name of a gui tool to select a wireless network so I can start it from the command line?
[23:55] <aBound> Hey all is it wise to upgrade to a newer kernel in Ubuntu?
[23:55] <hiexpo> allu2, i think ubuntu uses grub2
[23:55]  * allu2 tried reinstalling grub, goes to see if it helped
[23:55] <allu2> hiexpo: ment grub2, sorry
[23:56] <aBound> Definitely, seems like Ubuntu 11.10 is unstable.
[23:56]  * allu2 watches promp blinking
[23:56] <allu2> aBound: how so ?
[23:57] <hiexpo> < thats why hiexpo is still  using 10.04
[23:58] <allu2> ubuntu 11.10 has been very stable for me :S
[23:58] <aBound> Had nothing but problems with my new System76 laptop. From the nVidia binary driver to the lightdm causing a mountall: disconnected from plymouth bug to my login screen not appearing.
[23:58] <aBound> Reinstalled it about four times already.
[23:58] <allu2> tough well.. i've manage to make debian stable unstable :S
[23:58] <insectatorious> 'buntu 11.10 using Gnome Shell. Any way to clear all notifications on the bottom right side of the screen?
[23:59] <aBound> I can't say if it's the kernel I'm using or what have you.
[23:59] <hiexpo> aBound, use 10.04 it is lts
[23:59] <aBound> hiexpo, what kernel you running on your system?