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LjmChannelI don't think I have any sound cards not in use right now is the bad part.  Also, the check box he talks about was unchecked on mine but after checking it, still no luck.00:05
LjmChannelThank you for taking your time to try to help me with this.  I'll start looking for a new sound card since my comp doesn't have an onboard.00:09
Nex47500:13
Nex4ups, sorry, fail :P00:13
LjmChannelIf all else fails, I'll just dual boot my laptop00:14
holsteinfor sound?00:14
holsteinthat wont work... you could run linux inside windows in virtual box00:14
holsteinbut, it would be much better the other way00:15
LjmChannelit wouldn't be just for sound00:15
LjmChannellaptop is 10x faster than this desktop00:15
LjmChannelI need sound either way.00:16
holsteinyeah, you can virtualize windows on the laptop00:16
holsteinassuming all the hardware is compatible00:16
holsteini run live CD's before i install, then i know pretty much exactly what is going to work, and whats not, and i can search around about how to make whatever i need00:17
LjmChannelWell, with the desktop, this is the first time I've tried Xubuntu.  I had Ubuntu dual booting on my laptop before and it was fine, I just didn't need Ubuntu at the time.00:18
xubuntu951Salut/Hello !00:18
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holsteinsure, and now there are different kernels.. diffrent hardware support... it literally doesnt hurt anything to try it live00:18
holsteinbut, im a 'look before you leap' kind of guy.. especially when its so easy00:18
Unit193Live is a great way to test it, but there are a few things that may not show up. If you use a CD, most harddrives I know are faster for one ;)00:19
holsteinyup.. and sometimes upgrades after the install can add funcitonality00:20
LjmChannelwell, as far as the desktop goes, it didn't really matter.  I try live before doing anything when it comes to my laptop.  Desktop, needed something faster than WinXP so I put Xubuntu on it for that reason alone.00:20
coolstar-pcHow much memory does xubuntu require at minimum?00:44
LjmChannelholstein, problem solved.  The very last thing I could possibly do.. fixed it. lol  Kind of a facepalm moment.00:46
LjmChanneldisabled onboard audio in the bios which is somewhat idiotic since I don't have the onboard port for audio hookup.  Now it works.00:51
holsteincoolstar-pc: i think it depends really00:53
holsteini would want puppy linux or something like that if i had 12800:53
holsteinprobably 256 would be do-able, but also probably just a bit of a drag00:54
Unit193SliTaz or AntiX are great for little resources00:54
holsteinlubuntu even00:55
LjmChannelthanks for all your help holstein, and for putting up with my issue. lol00:56
holsteinLjmChannel: glad you got it sorted out00:57
LjmChannellikewise, now it's time to get cracking on Cinelerra.  Going to give that and OpenShot a try.00:58
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danielhi.07:44
danielubuntu one isn't working with xubuntu 10.04.207:45
danielpls help07:45
ybitdaniel:07:57
ybitwhat's the issue07:58
pitlimitI cannot seem to get my terminal color to adjust to a white background08:36
pitlimitI've tried everything but the color does not take08:36
pitlimitanyone there?09:10
pitlimitStill trying to modify my terminal colors :)09:10
pitlimitIn Terminal Preferences, it shows my Background color is WHITE, but it's clearly not so09:10
pitlimithow annoying09:11
gusnanpitlimit, under the appearance tab, do you have Transparent background active?09:11
pitlimitI don't see that option in Appearance, gusnan09:13
pitlimitI have Style, Icons, Fonts, Settings tabs09:13
pitlimitbut nowhere do I see a Transparent background option09:13
gusnanwhat terminal are you using?09:14
pitlimitgusnan, I wonder if it's because the default theme is greybird09:14
pitlimitI believe it's xterm4-terminal09:15
Unit193Preferences > Appearance > Background = None09:15
pitlimitUnit193, :)09:16
pitlimitthank you09:16
Unit193Yep, noproblem09:16
yulerIs Xubuntu less memory hungry than lubuntu for a 256mb 700mhz system?09:19
Unit193Lubuntu would be more lightweight, but Xubuntu is easier to configure using a GUI09:24
MerwinHi. I'm using Xubuntu for a few days and I can't make notifications zone (with icons like Skype, Quassel, Pidgin etc) work.09:24
MerwinThe zone is here, but there is absolutely nothing inside09:24
Unit193Did you remove the indicator plugin?09:25
MerwinNo, I checked that is was enabled. I check "Show box" (I don't know the exact english term, but it draw borders)09:26
MerwinSo, I see the borders around the zone, but nothing inside09:26
Unit193You could remove your panel config and see if that helps09:28
Merwinerf I spent an hour configuring it :p09:28
MerwinBut ok, I'll test I don't have the choice :-(09:28
Unit193Well, just move the folder ~/.config/xfce4/panel/ to something like ~/.config/xfce4/panel_backup/ and hit alt+f2 and run    xfce4-panel -r09:29
ben_199hi09:51
ybithi ben_19909:53
ben_199i'm struggling with getting grub reinstalled right... atm only windows is booting, and grub seems to be sitting on the wrong hd10:02
illusion9Hi guys, I'm trying to install xubuntu on an EEE pc 901 using the alternate install and it's acting quite strange. debian-installer is complaining that no installable kernels could be found, apt-install complains that lvm2 has no installation candidate10:09
illusion9I'm running of the 11.10 alternate install, installed via unetbootin10:09
illusion9The flash is correctly mounted as /cdrom, i tried10:10
illusion9cdrom-detect/try-usb=true, didn't do anything different10:10
illusion9All I want is to do an lvm install, it'd be great if it's possible from the livecd10:12
mongyIt's not10:14
illusion9Ah, bad news10:14
mongyI don't tihnk it will be too long though10:14
mongyit will be part of the full disk encryption choice they are supposed to be adding.10:15
illusion9Nice to hear, ever since i've known ubuntu, there was no way of having a graphical lvm install10:15
illusion9I'm pretty sure there's something wrong with my flash here10:15
illusion9skipping nonexistent file /media/cdrom/dists/oneric/universe/binary-i386/Packages10:16
illusion9it is connected to the network, the installer scanned the mirror, but still, apt-install is packageless10:16
illusion9tasksel isn't installed10:16
fivedaysaheadhey i got a question15:29
fivedaysaheadhow do i enable xdmcp in xubuntu?15:29
mongyunity settings so adjust to suit  http://pastebin.com/bgV05kn315:34
fivedaysaheadi don't think i have unity in xubuntu? do i?15:47
mongyno15:48
fivedaysaheadso how do i enable xdmcp?15:49
mongyedit /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf15:55
mongyad http://pastebin.com/Xyqd44rr15:56
mongyadd*15:56
mongyreboot, then check port 6000 is listening.  netstat -tulpn16:01
fivedaysaheadthank you i will try that do i have to reboot or can just ctrl alt k print screen or just log out16:18
fivedaysaheadshould 6000 automatically be added to that after editing lightdm.conf16:22
fivedaysaheadwhat is the default editor in xubuntu? leafpad?16:23
fivedaysaheador gedit?16:23
mongy6000 yes, leafpad yes16:23
fivedaysaheadthank you sir16:24
mykehow do i turn off the launcher that pops up at the bottom of the screen?16:33
mongyright click the panel, preferences.16:34
mongychoose panel 2, and remove16:34
mykethank you very much, my virtualbox xp install has the taskbar down there and it was driving me nuts16:37
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mykeis there still a way to get the official jre with apt?16:58
mongyno16:58
mykeok thanks16:58
mongyhttp://www.webupd8.org/2011/09/how-to-install-oracle-java-7-jdk-in.html16:58
mongysimple16:59
mykethanks16:59
mongyi'm in the middle of uploading 32bit and 64bit isos of a customised xubuntu install loaded with codecs, java, compiz and made all pretty :)16:59
mongypretty sweet if I say so myself17:00
mykenice17:00
mykethat would be useful17:00
mongy1.3gb!17:00
mykevlc has a ridiculous dependency list17:01
mongyquite a few tools,   vlc included17:01
mykei'm at an airport...about to go to mom's with only 24kbit dialup17:01
mykegot 10 mins to figure out everything i need to download17:01
Sysignome-mplayer is smaller than vlc17:01
mongyyeah, but this is for people 'used' to vlc on windows.17:02
mongyonly reason Ive made it, just saves time when I actually get hold of their machines..17:02
mongymyke, did you try apt-get vlc with --no-install-recommends ?17:03
mykeah, no17:04
mykeoh well17:04
mykemight as well get all that stuff while i still can17:04
mykei'm used to it on windows...17:04
mongyanwyay, most of the mplayer guis are quite light and useful.17:04
uofm49426xfce-radio-applet keep crashing cant get kradio crashes or gkrelim radio to work any other program you can recomended17:05
mongyradiotray17:06
mykei still use xmms :)17:08
mykehave to build it myself these days...17:08
mongyaudacious is enough for me17:09
uofm49426want something to work with my fm tuner17:14
antiannohi folks. i'm considering switching to xubuntu (ubuntu/unity right now) but before i re-install everything i'd like to know if xfce requires compiz/composite-enabled Xorg?17:23
mongynope17:23
antiannoah nice! thanks mongy17:23
mongythere is a compositor in it if you want to enale it.17:23
antiannobut it's disabled by-default?17:23
mongyor you can install compiz.  upto you17:23
mongyyes17:23
antiannoperfect!17:23
mongyah17:23
mongynot on mine no, it was enabled17:24
mongyit's only a basic thing, it can be disabled easily.17:24
antiannowell i'll manage to disable it then, i guess ;)17:24
mongysystem settings, window manage tweaks.  the last tab17:24
babbleI think the xfwm compositor is enabled by default (I believe I had composited windows without switching anything in 11.10)17:24
antiannoreason is, XBMC (fancy media center) doesn't play nice with a composite-enabled X.org, at least not if i want hardware accelered H.264 playback ...17:25
antiannobut i also would like to have a decent desktop for browsing and stuff17:25
antiannoso xfce seems like a perfect fit :)17:25
mongyit might play nice with xfwm compositing, it's not as flash as compiz17:28
antiannoyeah, worth a try17:29
mongyI use mythtv for tv and video watching, works ok with compositing17:29
antiannostarting with the new installation right now :) cu!17:36
mykei just usd xfce composting this week17:36
mykeprety nice17:36
CyberKahnI have a software raid volume that keeps appearing in my Xubuntu install that I don't want to appear. I have tried commenting out the mount point in /etc/mtab e.g. #/dev/mapper/pdc_bgcd1 /media/_datavol ext4 rw,nosuid,nodev,uhelper=udisks 0 017:39
_Pete_CyberKahn: try man mdadm17:40
_Pete_and read how to disbale it17:40
CyberKahnOk17:40
CyberKahnThanks17:40
CyberKahnWill it permanently mark something on the drive, so the other Linux install won't see it?17:40
_Pete_yes I think theres option to that also17:41
CyberKahnOk, I will go down that route then. Thanks....17:41
_Pete_it's about to remove raid superblocks17:41
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olbihello20:10
olbiMerry Christmas everyone :D20:10
olbiI have some problems with Xfce, sometime when I do screenshot in home/user/Pictures and Copy them and than want to paste in another directory, appear menu, that I cannot copy, cause this file doesn't exist :/20:11
mongyodd20:18
fivedaysaheadhow do i restart lightdm?20:28
fivedaysaheadi restarted it and now my x11vnc isn't working and i'm not near the comp to just access it locally20:28
mongyI would guess sudo restart lightdm20:29
fivedaysaheadthanks20:29
fivedaysaheadwhat's the linux equivalent of putty is there even one?20:31
Sysiputty is available but "ssh user@host.net" works by default20:32
Sysiin terminal20:33
fivedaysaheadthank you sir20:33
fivedaysaheadis there a way to burn all the settings maybe to an iso that i have from xubuntu to install else where?20:36
mongyrelinux,20:37
mongywell, thats for a remastered iso for full install20:37
mongyjust used it today actually.20:38
fivedaysaheadrelinux that's what i was thinking about20:38
fivedaysaheadthank you!20:39
mongysudo cp your settings to /etc/skel/ before you make the iso.20:44
mongyhttp://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=11530036&postcount=166 also20:47
mongythought I changed it to user-session=xubuntu to keep it how I wanted it.20:48
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sparkiezmerry xmas to you all!21:40
fivedaysaheadyou too21:43
fivedaysaheadmongy i still can't get xdmcp what was the netstat command to check for port 6000?21:44
mongynetstat -tulpn21:44
fivedaysaheadwhat do i do if i do not see 6000 in there?21:45
fivedaysaheadnevermind i see it21:45
fivedaysaheadcan i not be logged into that comp? for xdmcp to work? is that how xdmcp operates?21:45
mongyit should work wether you are logged in or not.  its a server21:48
mongywell, depends how you are using it.   I used Xnest personally when I used it.21:48
mongysudo X :1 -query 192.168.0.100   for example should give you login screen.21:49
fivedaysaheadhmmm i'm trying to just xming to xdmcp into it maybe i should just stick with ssh and xming and not worry about xdmcp21:49
mongymake sure to xhost + on the server first.  bit insecure but...21:49
fivedaysaheadwhat's xhost?21:50
mongyoh.. stick to ssh dude.21:50
fivedaysaheadthought that's what i might hear21:50
fivedaysaheadis x11vnc faster than xdmcp?21:51
fivedaysaheadx11vnc can use ssl at least xdmcp is not secure right?21:51
mongygiven a choice, I'd use ssh 7 days a week.21:51
fivedaysaheadssh -X? for gui enabled ya?21:53
fivedaysaheadi do like x11vnc with ssl because i can remotely move programs on the running comp21:54
mongyXnest is decent if you want a desktop over ssh21:55
fivedaysaheadi will look into that21:55
fivedaysaheadthanks21:55
mongyhttp://lubuntu.net/blog/lubuntu-screencast-openssh-remote-desktop-connection-xnest21:55
fivedaysaheadthanks will look at that21:55
mongywill get you started21:55
mongyhis accent is ace21:56
mongythe way he introduces every screencast... with his ' TADA!' enthusiasm21:56
fivedaysaheadi have my xubuntu computer hooked up to my tv and somtimes i don't have my tv on and then xrandr will not recognize the tv anymore i usually have to have the tv on at startup for xrandr to recognize it so when i want to have it connect to the tv i have to restart the comp it's annoying any thoughts?21:57
fivedaysaheadthanks for all your help21:57
mongyif you know the xrandr commands you need, put them in a script and run when needed21:58
fivedaysaheadi do i have done that to set the resolution because by default when i start it up and it recognizes it it's not the right resolution for the tv i'm using hdmi and i have the script set the hdmi tv to the left and then make it full res but the problem is if i turn the tv off eventually the resolution just becomes the laptop and then when i turn the tv back on xrandr doesn't recognize it21:59
fivedaysaheadis there like an xrandr refresh?22:01
fivedaysaheadlike right now through x11vnc on the remote comp i in a terminal i ran xrandr and i don't even see hdmi1 as being disconnected i see DP1 as disconnected and vga1 as disconnected it doesn't even recognize hdmi1 is disconnected22:03
fivedaysaheadif you want i can give you a link with java vnc to remote in and see if you can see what's going on22:06
mongyI'm not that up on xrandr I'm afraid.22:06
mongyman xrandr, or look in askubuntu, it has a lot of already asked questions and solutions for xrandr22:07
fivedaysaheadalright i will check that out thanks again for your help22:07
fivedaysaheadand what mirc alternative would you recommend for xubuntu do they have something similiar to mIRC?22:09
mongyxchat is as good as any22:09
mongyinstalled already22:09
fivedaysaheadjust run xchat in terminal?22:10
mongyyup22:10
fivedaysaheadyou're right22:10
fivedaysaheadty22:10
mongyIf im using a server to irc I use iirc22:10
fivedaysaheadi'm new to this stuff so thanks for all the help22:10
mongyand screen22:10
mongywith a top down terminal.22:10
fivedaysaheadlike guake?22:11
fivedaysaheadis that top down terminal?22:11
fivedaysaheadi've been using terminator for a little bit and like it22:11
mongythen I just leave it connected and I bring terminal down, ssh into it, then screen -r to resume the iirc session.22:11
mongyyeah, I use guake, but same sort of thing.22:11
fivedaysaheadnicee22:13
mongybasically, ssh to vps, run screen or even byobu, run iirc and /connect to whatever and /join whatever,  ctrl+a+d to detach and logout to keep it all running.. log back in, run screen -r or byobu and it will connect to existing session.22:13
mongysaves messing around and also gets my uptime soaring :)22:14
fivedaysaheadso what exactly does screen do?22:14
mongyterminal within a terminal22:14
fivedaysaheadahhh i see22:15
mongykeeps things running when you detach from it22:15
fivedaysaheadcan't you just use & or is that not at all the same22:15
fivedaysaheadi guess that doesn't allow you to detach22:16
mongyrun screen22:16
mongyrun top22:16
mongyctrl+a+d22:16
mongyback to terminal, top still running22:16
mongyscreen -r to reattach22:17
fivedaysaheadsudo apt-get install screen?22:17
mongyaye22:17
mongybyobu is ubuntu's pretty version22:17
fivedaysaheadoooh22:17
mongyit's not bad actually, displays some stats by default.22:17
fivedaysaheadare you using ubuntu or xubuntu?22:17
mongyirrelevant.  its sli22:18
mongycli*22:18
mongyme, xubuntu.22:18
fivedaysaheadwhat do you think of htop vs. top?22:18
mongybit like screen vs byobu22:19
fivedaysaheadgotcha22:19
mongyhtop is fine.22:19
fivedaysaheadi guess i can't really send ctrl a + d is that ctrl alt or ctrl A + D?22:19
fivedaysaheadi'm remoting into it with vnc and can't really send those commands22:20
mongyctrl a d22:20
mongyctrl a + something mostly for screen/byobu stuff22:20
fivedaysaheadjust went and tried it22:23
fivedaysaheadso i ran screen then top then ctrl + a + d22:23
fivedaysaheadand then it said detached22:23
fivedaysaheadso it's running in the background? after it detached or what22:23
fivedaysaheadscreen -ls that's what i wanted22:26
mongyyes22:26
mongyto list yes22:27
fivedaysaheadand then to rattach?22:27
mongyscreen -r22:27
fivedaysaheadso if i close the main terminal all the screens within die?22:27
mongyno22:27
fivedaysaheadand i have to type the #?22:27
mongyno.22:27
fivedaysaheadto reattach22:27
mongytry it22:27
fivedaysaheadscreen -r how does it know which one22:28
mongythe last one used22:28
fivedaysaheadi tried screen -r and it said there are several suitable screens22:28
mongyscreen -r id22:29
fivedaysaheadctrl + a + d will keep it running how do i kill it and get back?22:29
fivedaysaheadthanks22:30
fivedaysaheadscreen -r worked22:30
fivedaysaheadwith ID22:30
fivedaysaheadbut to kill it instead of ctrl a + d22:30
fivedaysaheadgot it kill id worked but is there a hot key to kill it after i reattach it?22:31
fivedaysaheador a way to kill all screens at once?22:32
mongythere is a flag for that.. I dont remember it22:34
fivedaysaheadand a way to exit it once it's attached? any hotkey like ctrl a d22:35
mongyctrl k22:35
fivedaysaheadthank you22:36
mongyctrl a then k22:36
mongyI mean22:36
mongyjust logout/exit them22:36
fivedaysaheadctrl i k to exit it?22:36
mongyctrl a then k22:36
fivedaysaheaddoesn't seem to work ctrl a k22:37
fivedaysaheadoooh ctrl a aand then k22:37
fivedaysaheadsweeetness screen is pretty nifty22:37
mongybyobu is pretty much the same22:38
mongylike I said, it's the htop of top22:39
fivedaysaheadidk what the flag is to run it so you don't even have to ctrl a d22:44
fivedaysaheadcouldn't figure it out22:44
mongy?22:44
fivedaysaheadso it'd be like screen -some flag top and it would run in the background automatically woudln't even have to do ctrl a d22:45
fivedaysaheador screen top -some flag22:45
fivedaysaheadgot it!22:46
fivedaysaheadscreen -d -m top22:46
fivedaysaheadtry it22:46
fivedaysahead:)22:46
fivedaysaheadnow if only i knew how to kill all screens at once22:46
fivedaysaheadi'd be all set22:46
mongyoh,  just running the command with screen., bit like ssh22:47
fivedaysaheadya22:48
fivedaysaheadhmm still can't figure out how to kill them all at once22:48
fivedaysaheadi guess just kill # # # # works i won't have that many anyways22:50
Demianhi22:52
Demiananyone here?22:52
mongyhalf a bottle of whiskey but yes22:52
Demian:)22:55
Demianwanna help?22:55
DemianOh and as a weapon fact, I smoked a hasj joint and two strong beers22:55
Demian;)22:55
DemianI installed xubuntu on this computer22:55
Demianbut it's one of those anoying I845G brookdale motherboards22:56
Demianand all ubuntu distro's don't seem to work with that motherboard22:57
Demiananyhow22:57
DemianSomeone did a hard shutdown22:57
Demianand now when I try to log in I get a black screen with some lines and then return to the login22:58
Demiansays something about audio22:58
Demianbut it's too fast to be read22:59
Demianbeen working on it for a couple of hours. Even formated the / drive22:59
Demianand did a fresh install22:59
Demianguest account works...22:59
DemianI'm at a loss22:59
mongyguest works?23:00
mongyreal user does not?23:00
Demianjup23:00
Demianyup23:00
SysiCtrl Alt F6, log in, rm -rf ~/.config23:00
mongysysi to the rescue.  I never heard of that before.23:00
Demianwhat's in the configfile?23:00
SysiI'm not sure but resetting stuff usually helps23:01
DemianI tried deleting Xauthority and ICEauthority23:01
Demianlol23:01
Demianwel.. why not :)23:01
mongy.config is a folder23:02
mongyremove it.  why not23:02
Sysi.config has almost all settings under it23:02
Sysiwell, mv ~/.config ~/olconfig is one option23:02
Demianokay. If I´m not back in 10 it worked ;)23:03
Demianthnx23:03
SysiI'll disappear for about nine hours now..23:03
Demianhave a good one sysi23:03
DemianGN23:03
fivedaysaheaddemian what kind of beers :)23:17
fivedaysaheadoh he left23:18
fivedaysaheadhope he's back in 1023:18
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