[00:05] I don't think I have any sound cards not in use right now is the bad part. Also, the check box he talks about was unchecked on mine but after checking it, still no luck. [00:09] Thank you for taking your time to try to help me with this. I'll start looking for a new sound card since my comp doesn't have an onboard. [00:13] 75 [00:13] ups, sorry, fail :P [00:14] If all else fails, I'll just dual boot my laptop [00:14] for sound? [00:14] that wont work... you could run linux inside windows in virtual box [00:15] but, it would be much better the other way [00:15] it wouldn't be just for sound [00:15] laptop is 10x faster than this desktop [00:16] I need sound either way. [00:16] yeah, you can virtualize windows on the laptop [00:16] assuming all the hardware is compatible [00:17] i run live CD's before i install, then i know pretty much exactly what is going to work, and whats not, and i can search around about how to make whatever i need [00:18] Well, with the desktop, this is the first time I've tried Xubuntu. I had Ubuntu dual booting on my laptop before and it was fine, I just didn't need Ubuntu at the time. [00:18] Salut/Hello ! === xubuntu951 is now known as Paradoxxx_ [00:18] sure, and now there are different kernels.. diffrent hardware support... it literally doesnt hurt anything to try it live [00:18] but, im a 'look before you leap' kind of guy.. especially when its so easy [00:19] Live is a great way to test it, but there are a few things that may not show up. If you use a CD, most harddrives I know are faster for one ;) [00:20] yup.. and sometimes upgrades after the install can add funcitonality [00:20] well, as far as the desktop goes, it didn't really matter. I try live before doing anything when it comes to my laptop. Desktop, needed something faster than WinXP so I put Xubuntu on it for that reason alone. [00:44] How much memory does xubuntu require at minimum? [00:46] holstein, problem solved. The very last thing I could possibly do.. fixed it. lol Kind of a facepalm moment. [00:51] disabled onboard audio in the bios which is somewhat idiotic since I don't have the onboard port for audio hookup. Now it works. [00:53] coolstar-pc: i think it depends really [00:53] i would want puppy linux or something like that if i had 128 [00:54] probably 256 would be do-able, but also probably just a bit of a drag [00:54] SliTaz or AntiX are great for little resources [00:55] lubuntu even [00:56] thanks for all your help holstein, and for putting up with my issue. lol [00:57] LjmChannel: glad you got it sorted out [00:58] likewise, now it's time to get cracking on Cinelerra. Going to give that and OpenShot a try. === Nex4 is now known as Nax [05:32] whoops === Pieman is now known as Paimun === Pieman is now known as Paimun [07:44] hi. [07:45] ubuntu one isn't working with xubuntu 10.04.2 [07:45] pls help [07:57] daniel: [07:58] what's the issue [08:36] I cannot seem to get my terminal color to adjust to a white background [08:36] I've tried everything but the color does not take [09:10] anyone there? [09:10] Still trying to modify my terminal colors :) [09:10] In Terminal Preferences, it shows my Background color is WHITE, but it's clearly not so [09:11] how annoying [09:11] pitlimit, under the appearance tab, do you have Transparent background active? [09:13] I don't see that option in Appearance, gusnan [09:13] I have Style, Icons, Fonts, Settings tabs [09:13] but nowhere do I see a Transparent background option [09:14] what terminal are you using? [09:14] gusnan, I wonder if it's because the default theme is greybird [09:15] I believe it's xterm4-terminal [09:15] Preferences > Appearance > Background = None [09:16] Unit193, :) [09:16] thank you [09:16] Yep, noproblem [09:19] Is Xubuntu less memory hungry than lubuntu for a 256mb 700mhz system? [09:24] Lubuntu would be more lightweight, but Xubuntu is easier to configure using a GUI [09:24] Hi. I'm using Xubuntu for a few days and I can't make notifications zone (with icons like Skype, Quassel, Pidgin etc) work. [09:24] The zone is here, but there is absolutely nothing inside [09:25] Did you remove the indicator plugin? [09:26] No, I checked that is was enabled. I check "Show box" (I don't know the exact english term, but it draw borders) [09:26] So, I see the borders around the zone, but nothing inside [09:28] You could remove your panel config and see if that helps [09:28] erf I spent an hour configuring it :p [09:28] But ok, I'll test I don't have the choice :-( [09:29] Well, just move the folder ~/.config/xfce4/panel/ to something like ~/.config/xfce4/panel_backup/ and hit alt+f2 and run xfce4-panel -r [09:51] hi [09:53] hi ben_199 [10:02] i'm struggling with getting grub reinstalled right... atm only windows is booting, and grub seems to be sitting on the wrong hd [10:09] Hi guys, I'm trying to install xubuntu on an EEE pc 901 using the alternate install and it's acting quite strange. debian-installer is complaining that no installable kernels could be found, apt-install complains that lvm2 has no installation candidate [10:09] I'm running of the 11.10 alternate install, installed via unetbootin [10:10] The flash is correctly mounted as /cdrom, i tried [10:10] cdrom-detect/try-usb=true, didn't do anything different [10:12] All I want is to do an lvm install, it'd be great if it's possible from the livecd [10:14] It's not [10:14] Ah, bad news [10:14] I don't tihnk it will be too long though [10:15] it will be part of the full disk encryption choice they are supposed to be adding. [10:15] Nice to hear, ever since i've known ubuntu, there was no way of having a graphical lvm install [10:15] I'm pretty sure there's something wrong with my flash here [10:16] skipping nonexistent file /media/cdrom/dists/oneric/universe/binary-i386/Packages [10:16] it is connected to the network, the installer scanned the mirror, but still, apt-install is packageless [10:16] tasksel isn't installed [15:29] hey i got a question [15:29] how do i enable xdmcp in xubuntu? [15:34] unity settings so adjust to suit http://pastebin.com/bgV05kn3 [15:47] i don't think i have unity in xubuntu? do i? [15:48] no [15:49] so how do i enable xdmcp? [15:55] edit /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf [15:56] ad http://pastebin.com/Xyqd44rr [15:56] add* [16:01] reboot, then check port 6000 is listening. netstat -tulpn [16:18] thank you i will try that do i have to reboot or can just ctrl alt k print screen or just log out [16:22] should 6000 automatically be added to that after editing lightdm.conf [16:23] what is the default editor in xubuntu? leafpad? [16:23] or gedit? [16:23] 6000 yes, leafpad yes [16:24] thank you sir [16:33] how do i turn off the launcher that pops up at the bottom of the screen? [16:34] right click the panel, preferences. [16:34] choose panel 2, and remove [16:37] thank you very much, my virtualbox xp install has the taskbar down there and it was driving me nuts === Soupermanito is now known as GridCube [16:58] is there still a way to get the official jre with apt? [16:58] no [16:58] ok thanks [16:58] http://www.webupd8.org/2011/09/how-to-install-oracle-java-7-jdk-in.html [16:59] simple [16:59] thanks [16:59] i'm in the middle of uploading 32bit and 64bit isos of a customised xubuntu install loaded with codecs, java, compiz and made all pretty :) [17:00] pretty sweet if I say so myself [17:00] nice [17:00] that would be useful [17:00] 1.3gb! [17:01] vlc has a ridiculous dependency list [17:01] quite a few tools, vlc included [17:01] i'm at an airport...about to go to mom's with only 24kbit dialup [17:01] got 10 mins to figure out everything i need to download [17:01] gnome-mplayer is smaller than vlc [17:02] yeah, but this is for people 'used' to vlc on windows. [17:02] only reason Ive made it, just saves time when I actually get hold of their machines.. [17:03] myke, did you try apt-get vlc with --no-install-recommends ? [17:04] ah, no [17:04] oh well [17:04] might as well get all that stuff while i still can [17:04] i'm used to it on windows... [17:04] anwyay, most of the mplayer guis are quite light and useful. [17:05] xfce-radio-applet keep crashing cant get kradio crashes or gkrelim radio to work any other program you can recomended [17:06] radiotray [17:08] i still use xmms :) [17:08] have to build it myself these days... [17:09] audacious is enough for me [17:14] want something to work with my fm tuner [17:23] hi folks. i'm considering switching to xubuntu (ubuntu/unity right now) but before i re-install everything i'd like to know if xfce requires compiz/composite-enabled Xorg? [17:23] nope [17:23] ah nice! thanks mongy [17:23] there is a compositor in it if you want to enale it. [17:23] but it's disabled by-default? [17:23] or you can install compiz. upto you [17:23] yes [17:23] perfect! [17:23] ah [17:24] not on mine no, it was enabled [17:24] it's only a basic thing, it can be disabled easily. [17:24] well i'll manage to disable it then, i guess ;) [17:24] system settings, window manage tweaks. the last tab [17:24] I think the xfwm compositor is enabled by default (I believe I had composited windows without switching anything in 11.10) [17:25] reason is, XBMC (fancy media center) doesn't play nice with a composite-enabled X.org, at least not if i want hardware accelered H.264 playback ... [17:25] but i also would like to have a decent desktop for browsing and stuff [17:25] so xfce seems like a perfect fit :) [17:28] it might play nice with xfwm compositing, it's not as flash as compiz [17:29] yeah, worth a try [17:29] I use mythtv for tv and video watching, works ok with compositing [17:36] starting with the new installation right now :) cu! [17:36] i just usd xfce composting this week [17:36] prety nice [17:39] I have a software raid volume that keeps appearing in my Xubuntu install that I don't want to appear. I have tried commenting out the mount point in /etc/mtab e.g. #/dev/mapper/pdc_bgcd1 /media/_datavol ext4 rw,nosuid,nodev,uhelper=udisks 0 0 [17:40] <_Pete_> CyberKahn: try man mdadm [17:40] <_Pete_> and read how to disbale it [17:40] Ok [17:40] Thanks [17:40] Will it permanently mark something on the drive, so the other Linux install won't see it? [17:41] <_Pete_> yes I think theres option to that also [17:41] Ok, I will go down that route then. Thanks.... [17:41] <_Pete_> it's about to remove raid superblocks === Nex4 is now known as Nax [20:10] hello [20:10] Merry Christmas everyone :D [20:11] I have some problems with Xfce, sometime when I do screenshot in home/user/Pictures and Copy them and than want to paste in another directory, appear menu, that I cannot copy, cause this file doesn't exist :/ [20:18] odd [20:28] how do i restart lightdm? [20:28] i restarted it and now my x11vnc isn't working and i'm not near the comp to just access it locally [20:29] I would guess sudo restart lightdm [20:29] thanks [20:31] what's the linux equivalent of putty is there even one? [20:32] putty is available but "ssh user@host.net" works by default [20:33] in terminal [20:33] thank you sir [20:36] is there a way to burn all the settings maybe to an iso that i have from xubuntu to install else where? [20:37] relinux, [20:37] well, thats for a remastered iso for full install [20:38] just used it today actually. [20:38] relinux that's what i was thinking about [20:39] thank you! [20:44] sudo cp your settings to /etc/skel/ before you make the iso. [20:47] http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=11530036&postcount=166 also [20:48] thought I changed it to user-session=xubuntu to keep it how I wanted it. === EyesIsAsleep is now known as EyeaIsChristmas === EyeaIsChristmas is now known as EyesIsChristmas [21:40] merry xmas to you all! [21:43] you too [21:44] mongy i still can't get xdmcp what was the netstat command to check for port 6000? [21:44] netstat -tulpn [21:45] what do i do if i do not see 6000 in there? [21:45] nevermind i see it [21:45] can i not be logged into that comp? for xdmcp to work? is that how xdmcp operates? [21:48] it should work wether you are logged in or not. its a server [21:48] well, depends how you are using it. I used Xnest personally when I used it. [21:49] sudo X :1 -query 192.168.0.100 for example should give you login screen. [21:49] hmmm i'm trying to just xming to xdmcp into it maybe i should just stick with ssh and xming and not worry about xdmcp [21:49] make sure to xhost + on the server first. bit insecure but... [21:50] what's xhost? [21:50] oh.. stick to ssh dude. [21:50] thought that's what i might hear [21:51] is x11vnc faster than xdmcp? [21:51] x11vnc can use ssl at least xdmcp is not secure right? [21:51] given a choice, I'd use ssh 7 days a week. [21:53] ssh -X? for gui enabled ya? [21:54] i do like x11vnc with ssl because i can remotely move programs on the running comp [21:55] Xnest is decent if you want a desktop over ssh [21:55] i will look into that [21:55] thanks [21:55] http://lubuntu.net/blog/lubuntu-screencast-openssh-remote-desktop-connection-xnest [21:55] thanks will look at that [21:55] will get you started [21:56] his accent is ace [21:56] the way he introduces every screencast... with his ' TADA!' enthusiasm [21:57] i have my xubuntu computer hooked up to my tv and somtimes i don't have my tv on and then xrandr will not recognize the tv anymore i usually have to have the tv on at startup for xrandr to recognize it so when i want to have it connect to the tv i have to restart the comp it's annoying any thoughts? [21:57] thanks for all your help [21:58] if you know the xrandr commands you need, put them in a script and run when needed [21:59] i do i have done that to set the resolution because by default when i start it up and it recognizes it it's not the right resolution for the tv i'm using hdmi and i have the script set the hdmi tv to the left and then make it full res but the problem is if i turn the tv off eventually the resolution just becomes the laptop and then when i turn the tv back on xrandr doesn't recognize it [22:01] is there like an xrandr refresh? [22:03] like right now through x11vnc on the remote comp i in a terminal i ran xrandr and i don't even see hdmi1 as being disconnected i see DP1 as disconnected and vga1 as disconnected it doesn't even recognize hdmi1 is disconnected [22:06] if you want i can give you a link with java vnc to remote in and see if you can see what's going on [22:06] I'm not that up on xrandr I'm afraid. [22:07] man xrandr, or look in askubuntu, it has a lot of already asked questions and solutions for xrandr [22:07] alright i will check that out thanks again for your help [22:09] and what mirc alternative would you recommend for xubuntu do they have something similiar to mIRC? [22:09] xchat is as good as any [22:09] installed already [22:10] just run xchat in terminal? [22:10] yup [22:10] you're right [22:10] ty [22:10] If im using a server to irc I use iirc [22:10] i'm new to this stuff so thanks for all the help [22:10] and screen [22:10] with a top down terminal. [22:11] like guake? [22:11] is that top down terminal? [22:11] i've been using terminator for a little bit and like it [22:11] then I just leave it connected and I bring terminal down, ssh into it, then screen -r to resume the iirc session. [22:11] yeah, I use guake, but same sort of thing. [22:13] nicee [22:13] basically, ssh to vps, run screen or even byobu, run iirc and /connect to whatever and /join whatever, ctrl+a+d to detach and logout to keep it all running.. log back in, run screen -r or byobu and it will connect to existing session. [22:14] saves messing around and also gets my uptime soaring :) [22:14] so what exactly does screen do? [22:14] terminal within a terminal [22:15] ahhh i see [22:15] keeps things running when you detach from it [22:15] can't you just use & or is that not at all the same [22:16] i guess that doesn't allow you to detach [22:16] run screen [22:16] run top [22:16] ctrl+a+d [22:16] back to terminal, top still running [22:17] screen -r to reattach [22:17] sudo apt-get install screen? [22:17] aye [22:17] byobu is ubuntu's pretty version [22:17] oooh [22:17] it's not bad actually, displays some stats by default. [22:17] are you using ubuntu or xubuntu? [22:18] irrelevant. its sli [22:18] cli* [22:18] me, xubuntu. [22:18] what do you think of htop vs. top? [22:19] bit like screen vs byobu [22:19] gotcha [22:19] htop is fine. [22:19] i guess i can't really send ctrl a + d is that ctrl alt or ctrl A + D? [22:20] i'm remoting into it with vnc and can't really send those commands [22:20] ctrl a d [22:20] ctrl a + something mostly for screen/byobu stuff [22:23] just went and tried it [22:23] so i ran screen then top then ctrl + a + d [22:23] and then it said detached [22:23] so it's running in the background? after it detached or what [22:26] screen -ls that's what i wanted [22:26] yes [22:27] to list yes [22:27] and then to rattach? [22:27] screen -r [22:27] so if i close the main terminal all the screens within die? [22:27] no [22:27] and i have to type the #? [22:27] no. [22:27] to reattach [22:27] try it [22:28] screen -r how does it know which one [22:28] the last one used [22:28] i tried screen -r and it said there are several suitable screens [22:29] screen -r id [22:29] ctrl + a + d will keep it running how do i kill it and get back? [22:30] thanks [22:30] screen -r worked [22:30] with ID [22:30] but to kill it instead of ctrl a + d [22:31] got it kill id worked but is there a hot key to kill it after i reattach it? [22:32] or a way to kill all screens at once? [22:34] there is a flag for that.. I dont remember it [22:35] and a way to exit it once it's attached? any hotkey like ctrl a d [22:35] ctrl k [22:36] thank you [22:36] ctrl a then k [22:36] I mean [22:36] just logout/exit them [22:36] ctrl i k to exit it? [22:36] ctrl a then k [22:37] doesn't seem to work ctrl a k [22:37] oooh ctrl a aand then k [22:37] sweeetness screen is pretty nifty [22:38] byobu is pretty much the same [22:39] like I said, it's the htop of top [22:44] idk what the flag is to run it so you don't even have to ctrl a d [22:44] couldn't figure it out [22:44] ? [22:45] so it'd be like screen -some flag top and it would run in the background automatically woudln't even have to do ctrl a d [22:45] or screen top -some flag [22:46] got it! [22:46] screen -d -m top [22:46] try it [22:46] :) [22:46] now if only i knew how to kill all screens at once [22:46] i'd be all set [22:47] oh, just running the command with screen., bit like ssh [22:48] ya [22:48] hmm still can't figure out how to kill them all at once [22:50] i guess just kill # # # # works i won't have that many anyways [22:52] hi [22:52] anyone here? [22:52] half a bottle of whiskey but yes [22:55] :) [22:55] wanna help? [22:55] Oh and as a weapon fact, I smoked a hasj joint and two strong beers [22:55] ;) [22:55] I installed xubuntu on this computer [22:56] but it's one of those anoying I845G brookdale motherboards [22:57] and all ubuntu distro's don't seem to work with that motherboard [22:57] anyhow [22:57] Someone did a hard shutdown [22:58] and now when I try to log in I get a black screen with some lines and then return to the login [22:58] says something about audio [22:59] but it's too fast to be read [22:59] been working on it for a couple of hours. Even formated the / drive [22:59] and did a fresh install [22:59] guest account works... [22:59] I'm at a loss [23:00] guest works? [23:00] real user does not? [23:00] jup [23:00] yup [23:00] Ctrl Alt F6, log in, rm -rf ~/.config [23:00] sysi to the rescue. I never heard of that before. [23:00] what's in the configfile? [23:01] I'm not sure but resetting stuff usually helps [23:01] I tried deleting Xauthority and ICEauthority [23:01] lol [23:01] wel.. why not :) [23:02] .config is a folder [23:02] remove it. why not [23:02] .config has almost all settings under it [23:02] well, mv ~/.config ~/olconfig is one option [23:03] okay. If I´m not back in 10 it worked ;) [23:03] thnx [23:03] I'll disappear for about nine hours now.. [23:03] have a good one sysi [23:03] GN [23:17] demian what kind of beers :) [23:18] oh he left [23:18] hope he's back in 10 === bazhang_ is now known as bazhang