| jmcardle | hey | 04:36 |
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| mysteriousdarren | hi | 04:38 |
| jmcardle | how is your xmas eve going? | 04:39 |
| jmcardle | (or xmas, depending on time zone) | 04:39 |
| mysteriousdarren | good, spent time with close family the whole crowd is coming tom wbu? | 04:39 |
| jmcardle | good. spending it with my partner's family :) we're both in bed now, on our separate laptops | 04:41 |
| === JackyAlcine is now known as SantaClaus | ||
| === SantaClaus is now known as Santa_Claus | ||
| Santa_Claus | ho ho ho | 04:48 |
| mysteriousdarren | Jacky keeps playing games haha | 04:50 |
| Santa_Claus | :P | 04:50 |
| Santa_Claus | Ho ho ho; merry Christmas! | 04:51 |
| Santa_Claus | mysteriousdarren's been a very good boy. | 04:51 |
| Santa_Claus | Sounds like someone'd like a quad-core Intel Sandy Bridge with 8GB LM tonight :) | 04:51 |
| mysteriousdarren | thanks JackyAlcine! | 04:52 |
| mysteriousdarren | jk | 04:52 |
| jmcardle | :o Santa's identity revealed. Appears on TMZ tomorrow, replete with photos of Santa going shopping at a local mall. | 04:52 |
| mysteriousdarren | ya that would be sad | 04:56 |
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| falcon_ | need to understand something. with these different distros. am using 11.04 want to upgrade to 11.10. am i going to get all the extra packages that you get with an ubuntu 11.10 download or is it just upgrading the kernel. because i don't want the weight of a heavy package | 14:56 |
| falcon_ | also when i was trying to upgrade (which i cancelled and had to reinstall lubuntu 11.04) it said it would take 5 hours for the upgrade. but yet you can download ubuntu 11.10 and install in much less time. but i don't want the heavy distro just the kernel upgrade | 15:00 |
| falcon_ | part of my message got cut off. i was saying that it would take 5 hours for the upgrade | 15:02 |
| falcon_ | with lubuntu is it a full package with just lxde desktop? and if so is it the same thing as downloading ubuntu 11.10 and then downloading the lxde desktop to use with it | 15:05 |
| iceroot | falcon_: there is no difference when upgrading from 11.04 to 11.10 instead of installing 11.10 directly | 15:05 |
| iceroot | falcon_: yes its the same, installing ubuntu and then lubuntu-desktop will get the samw packages as installing lubuntu directly | 15:06 |
| falcon_ | why does it take so long to upgrade? | 15:06 |
| iceroot | falcon_: slow internet-speed, low cpu speed | 15:06 |
| iceroot | falcon_: and why you need a kernel upgrade? | 15:06 |
| falcon_ | was wondering if maybe new software might not work with older kernel | 15:09 |
| iceroot | falcon_: no | 15:09 |
| falcon_ | haven't run into problems yet but thats why i thought you upgrade | 15:09 |
| iceroot | falcon_: i am sure you will never find a software which requeires qare higher kernel | 15:10 |
| falcon_ | would like to run lubuntu off of flash drive for speed but want to save files to hard drive do you know how to accomplish this | 15:11 |
| iceroot | falcon_: put / on the ss and /home on the hdd | 15:11 |
| iceroot | ssd | 15:12 |
| falcon_ | would like to take out prompt for password everytime i want to download | 15:15 |
| iceroot | falcon_: ? | 15:15 |
| iceroot | falcon_: what is asking for a password? | 15:15 |
| falcon_ | i get prompted for user password when i want to download packages | 15:16 |
| iceroot | falcon_: packages like *.deb? | 15:16 |
| falcon_ | anything from synaptic package manager | 15:17 |
| iceroot | falcon_: so you are talking about synaptic and not a browser | 15:17 |
| falcon_ | correct | 15:17 |
| iceroot | falcon_: that is normal and should NOT be changed | 15:17 |
| iceroot | falcon_: because synaptic needs to act as root | 15:18 |
| iceroot | falcon_: and for that its using sudo/gksudo | 15:18 |
| iceroot | !sudo | falcon_ | 15:18 |
| ubot5 | falcon_: sudo is a command to run command-line programs with superuser privileges ("root") (also see !cli). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for more information. For graphical applications see !gksu (GNOME, Xfce), or !kdesudo (KDE). If you're unable to execute commands with sudo see: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/fixsudo | 15:18 |
| falcon_ | thanx for the links | 15:18 |
| falcon_ | what is the best way to shut down computer when it freezes? | 17:13 |
| holstein | falcon_: if you can get to tty and sudo shutdown -h now | 17:13 |
| holstein | if its frozen though, its frozen... if its something im troubleshooting, i'll typically unplug the hard drive, and try to do as much as i can with a live CD... then pulling the power cant hurt anything | 17:14 |
| falcon_ | did a computer shutdown by holding down powerbutton down could not boot to disk on powerup | 17:15 |
| falcon_ | do i need to flash my bios | 17:15 |
| falcon_ | i am presently able to boot using fn + f12 on post screen | 17:16 |
| falcon_ | if i just poweron without that i get error exiting pxe-rom boot disk required | 17:17 |
| falcon_ | using acer aspire one d255 netbook. went to acer website for file aig32.zip to flash bios couldn't find it . other websites that have it want you to sign up to their downloader | 17:19 |
| falcon_ | do you know how to open these acer laptops tried it it's messy | 17:21 |
| falcon_ | disk utility is giving me a warning "drive failure imminent" says something about reallocated | 17:23 |
| falcon_ | could i still run this thing off an external drive without the internal hdd | 17:24 |
| falcon_ | do you know how to use a usb product as a 2nd monitor | 17:26 |
| falcon_ | lubuntu 11.04 how do i change background color | 17:31 |
| falcon_ | can i download 11.10 to same partition | 17:33 |
| hyperair | let's do this one question at a time, and in full sentences. | 17:33 |
| hyperair | your first question: "did a computer shutdown by holding powerbutton down could not boot to disk on powerup do i need to flash my bios" | 17:33 |
| hyperair | i'm assuming you held your power button down to force-shutdown your computer, and following that, you can no longer boot to disk on powerup. | 17:34 |
| falcon_ | correct | 17:34 |
| hyperair | i think we can rule out flashing the bios | 17:34 |
| hyperair | if your bios was borked, you would not be able to boot using fn+f12 | 17:35 |
| hyperair | i'm assuming that fn+f12 = boot device menu | 17:35 |
| falcon_ | no. hold fn down while repeatedly hit f12 on post | 17:35 |
| hyperair | yes, i know | 17:35 |
| hyperair | but if your bios was borked, you wouldn't be able to POST | 17:36 |
| hyperair | f12 is the boot device menu, right? | 17:36 |
| falcon_ | i don't go into menu it just boots up normally from there | 17:36 |
| hyperair | huh? | 17:36 |
| hyperair | what is fn+f12 supposed to do on your laptop? | 17:36 |
| hyperair | on mine it shows the boot device menu | 17:36 |
| falcon_ | i don't know i was playing around with combos and it worked | 17:37 |
| * hyperair facepalms | 17:37 | |
| hyperair | so it succeeds in booting up? | 17:37 |
| falcon_ | yes, but i would like it to normally without this | 17:37 |
| hyperair | so.... you just hold fn and pummel the f12 key at POST, and it just... boots up. | 17:38 |
| hyperair | with no interventino? | 17:38 |
| hyperair | no selection of things from a menu or anything? | 17:38 |
| hyperair | what do you see before it enters the lubuntu splash? | 17:38 |
| falcon_ | correct | 17:39 |
| falcon_ | nothing | 17:39 |
| hyperair | this is very weird.] | 17:39 |
| hyperair | well what model is yourl aptop? | 17:39 |
| hyperair | oh acer aspire one | 17:39 |
| falcon_ | acer aspire one d255 | 17:39 |
| hyperair | https://wiki.debian.org/DebianAcerOne <-- judging from this... i think that f12 actually opens up a boot menu | 17:40 |
| hyperair | are you really sure you don't see a boot menu? | 17:40 |
| falcon_ | only if i hit f12 but not both | 17:40 |
| falcon_ | this may be a glitch caused by forcedown | 17:41 |
| hyperair | very weird | 17:41 |
| hyperair | well what you can try to do is enter the bios | 17:41 |
| hyperair | and verify the boot device priority has hard disk first | 17:42 |
| falcon_ | i changed all combos of boots in the bios | 17:42 |
| hyperair | put hard disk to the top | 17:42 |
| falcon_ | did that | 17:42 |
| hyperair | you have lubuntu installed on the hard disk, right? | 17:42 |
| hyperair | not a flash drive or anything? | 17:42 |
| falcon_ | correct | 17:42 |
| hyperair | hmm | 17:42 |
| hyperair | try resetting your bios to default settings? | 17:43 |
| falcon_ | did that too | 17:43 |
| hyperair | heh weird. | 17:43 |
| falcon_ | i thought it may have been a bios driver | 17:43 |
| hyperair | could you take a video of the screen during the boot up sequence with fn+f12? | 17:43 |
| hyperair | afaik bios don't really have drivers.. | 17:44 |
| hyperair | and especially not in laptops | 17:44 |
| falcon_ | dont have a video camera ( i know what time am i living in) | 17:45 |
| hyperair | force-shutdowns also shouldn't *ever* hit the bios. | 17:45 |
| hyperair | the most it can do is bork your filesystem. | 17:45 |
| hyperair | also, if you google for $laptop_model service manual, you can probably find instructinos on how to dismantle your laptop | 17:46 |
| falcon_ | after post i get blinking cursor then splash lubuntu | 17:46 |
| hyperair | i've opened an acer 4736-series laptop before, to clean the fan. | 17:46 |
| hyperair | this is weird. | 17:46 |
| falcon_ | tried opening this started wrecking it | 17:46 |
| hyperair | you need to read the service manual | 17:47 |
| hyperair | there are a bunch of screws to remove | 17:47 |
| falcon_ | do they cement these things together | 17:47 |
| hyperair | and a bunch of plastic catches | 17:47 |
| hyperair | you need to know where the plastic catches are so you can pry them apart without breaking them | 17:47 |
| hyperair | the service manual documents it all | 17:47 |
| falcon_ | didn't know about the catches | 17:47 |
| hyperair | and you have to remove the components in a very specific order (stupid acer) | 17:47 |
| falcon_ | showing imminent disk failure warnings will probably have to replace it soon | 17:48 |
| hyperair | for example, to access the cpu fan of the 4736, i needed to remove... first, the top panel (near the monitor), the keyboard, the monitor itself, wireless, modem, top surface, motherboard | 17:49 |
| hyperair | in that order. | 17:49 |
| hyperair | compare this to the lenovo y410: unscrew one panel in the back. | 17:49 |
| falcon_ | maybe i'll just send it for repair | 17:49 |
| hyperair | yes, that's probably your best bet | 17:49 |
| hyperair | if it's under warranty, that's really your only choice. | 17:50 |
| hyperair | unless you're willing to void the warranty | 17:50 |
| falcon_ | i'd still like to figure out how to boot normally | 17:50 |
| hyperair | shrug. maybe something really is screwed in the bios | 17:50 |
| falcon_ | can't find the bios file aig32.zip | 17:51 |
| hyperair | i don't know the acer aspire one well enough to know how to fix it with the limited information i'm getting. | 17:51 |
| hyperair | trust me when i say you don't want to flash your bios on your own | 17:51 |
| hyperair | i did that with my thinkpad | 17:51 |
| hyperair | the flashing hung halfway | 17:51 |
| hyperair | and the laptop needed a motherboard replacement | 17:51 |
| falcon_ | i didn't know it was difficult | 17:51 |
| hyperair | it isn't difficult. | 17:52 |
| hyperair | but it's expensive if it fails | 17:52 |
| falcon_ | i'll just keep hitting fn+f12 | 17:52 |
| hyperair | to repair a broken bios, you need to get a replacement motherboard, desolder the bios chips, and exchange them. | 17:52 |
| falcon_ | i'm glad i couldn't find the file | 17:53 |
| hyperair | and then it's something like stuffing back the broken bios chip back on the motherboard after it's booted into the bios, and reflashing it | 17:53 |
| hyperair | it's very weird stuff, definitely something you don't want to try with a laptop | 17:53 |
| phillw | there is a minimal rescue available for some Acer Aspires... which model is it? | 17:53 |
| hyperair | aspire one | 17:53 |
| hyperair | d255 | 17:53 |
| falcon_ | aspire one d255 | 17:53 |
| phillw | then, you are in luck :) http://macles.blogspot.com/2008/08/acer-aspire-one-bios-recovery.html | 17:54 |
| falcon_ | that's not flashing the bios is it | 17:54 |
| phillw | falcon_: that is how recover if flashing fails and you have a dead machine. | 17:55 |
| falcon_ | i'll check it out thanks | 17:55 |
| phillw | as hyperair said, a failed flash of the bios is a really bad situation to be in. | 17:55 |
| hyperair | ooh, it has a bios recovery thing | 17:56 |
| hyperair | that's damn awesome | 17:56 |
| hyperair | for my thinkpad, i sent it into the lenovo service centre, and waited two weeks for the shipment of replacement motherboards to arrive | 17:56 |
| hyperair | incidentally, the smae thinkpad is now in the same lenovo service centre again for a battery replacement | 17:56 |
| hyperair | yay thinkpad | 17:57 |
| phillw | hyperair: acer are one the under-rated producers of computer & media stuff. I have no hesitation in recommending them to people. | 17:58 |
| hyperair | phillw: they're horrible to open up. | 17:58 |
| phillw | I'm also very impressed with GateWay. | 17:58 |
| hyperair | phillw: i'm very unimpressed with acer after opening it up to service the fan | 17:58 |
| hyperair | my sister's laptop | 17:58 |
| phillw | hyperair: they are! I replaced a keyboard on one :) | 17:58 |
| hyperair | the keyboard is pretty simple to access actually | 17:59 |
| hyperair | but to access the fan... | 17:59 |
| bioterror | Acer desktops are okay, but with laptops I would try to gather extra money and buy something a little better | 17:59 |
| hyperair | you have to go from the top down | 17:59 |
| hyperair | first the top panel | 17:59 |
| phillw | fortuantely the video on you tube went through it all. Took 30 mins. | 17:59 |
| hyperair | then the keyboard | 17:59 |
| hyperair | then the monitor | 17:59 |
| hyperair | then the top casing | 17:59 |
| bioterror | hyperair, lenovo does it well with the keyboards. couple of screws from bottom and you can remove keyboard <3 | 17:59 |
| hyperair | (WHY oh WHY did they make the monitor need to be removed in order to remove the top casing?!) | 17:59 |
| hyperair | bioterror: oh yes. the thinkpad was like that. awesome stuff. | 18:00 |
| hyperair | bioterror: but so is the acer. just a couple of screws from the bottom | 18:00 |
| hyperair | on the other hand, in my thinkpad e220s, the battery's internal and i can't remove it without removing the top casing, which is ridiculously hard | 18:00 |
| phillw | hyperair: just remember to take the long screw out :P | 18:00 |
| hyperair | the plastic catches on this thing are ridiculously tough to pry open | 18:00 |
| hyperair | i was afraid i'd break the entire thing | 18:01 |
| hyperair | phillw: i broke one of the screwholes >_> | 18:01 |
| hyperair | missed a screw | 18:01 |
| hyperair | but the acer service manual is awesome | 18:01 |
| hyperair | it's very detailed | 18:01 |
| phillw | hyperair: motto of the story... watch the video :P | 18:01 |
| hyperair | tells you where all the plastic catches are, and how to pray open the top cover | 18:01 |
| hyperair | phillw: there weren't videos for the thinkpad e220s! | 18:01 |
| hyperair | the thinkpad e220s service manual was abysmal | 18:02 |
| phillw | ahh, not played with a thinkpad in years... I got the one I needed to 'play' with opened up okay. | 18:02 |
| hyperair | it just showed three bloody arrows lifting up the top cover | 18:02 |
| hyperair | and i'm like IT'S NOT COMING OFF. HOW?!! | 18:02 |
| hyperair | phillw: you got one of those retro-looking ones. | 18:03 |
| hyperair | not the new shiny no-service-panel ones. | 18:03 |
| phillw | hyperair: we should *really* be in -offtopic :P | 18:03 |
| hyperair | where you have to remove the keyboard to chance the RAM. | 18:03 |
| hyperair | yes we really should =) | 18:03 |
| xsaidx | hello | 19:47 |
| hyperair | hi | 19:54 |
| xsaidx | hyperair: you use keepassx ?? i have a problem i cant add any new entry | 19:56 |
| * hyperair doesn't | 19:56 | |
| xsaidx | hyperair: ok thansk | 19:56 |
| xsaidx | mark76: hello, do you use keepassx ? | 20:06 |
| mark76 | Nope | 20:06 |
| xsaidx | mark76: ok ;] | 20:07 |
| mark76 | I don't even know what it is | 20:07 |
| xsaidx | mark76: its a password manager | 20:10 |
| mark76 | Oh right | 20:10 |
| mark76 | Like Seahorse? | 20:11 |
| xsaidx | mark76: uhmm i never used that but well its a toll where you can save your psw's in an encrypted file and some feature that needs more work ;] | 20:13 |
| xsaidx | mark76: http://www.keepassx.org/ | 20:13 |
| mark76 | I see | 20:13 |
| xsaidx | hello im back | 20:21 |
| xsaidx | still strugglin | 20:21 |
| xsaidx | anyone here using keepassx ? | 20:22 |
| reflexrg | how do I edit the launchers on menu and launch bar? | 21:25 |
| reflexrg | so I can have it open different firefox profiles | 21:26 |
| reflexrg | right now I have it setup so that it opens the profile manager every time | 21:26 |
| reflexrg | I just changed exec: firefox -new-window to exec: firefox -no-remote and used terminal to open profilemanager and unchecked don't start up profilemanager so I can open my other profiles | 21:36 |
| reflexrg | :) | 21:36 |
| reflexrg | edited file /usr/share/applications/firefox.desktop | 21:38 |
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