[00:49] <yofel> now this is interesting. with kernel 3.2: the moment I disconnect my thinkpad's 2nd battery the bay drive is force-disconnected o.O
[00:53] <penguin42> oh bizarre
[00:53] <Ian_Corne> lol
[00:53] <penguin42> you could try bisecting where it changed behaviour
[00:54] <yofel> for now i'll reboot to get rid of the I/O errors....
[00:55] <yofel> filed a bug in any case
[01:02]  * yofel is off to bed - merry christmas everyone :)
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[12:24] <penguin42> hmm never seen that before - Unity has a gap in it's short cut numbering
[13:48] <BluesKaj_> Hi to all , and to all a very Merry Christmas
[13:48]  * penguin42 jingles at BluesKaj_
[13:49] <BluesKaj_> hey penguin42 , are you till running KDE , if so have you tried 4.7.4 ?
[13:50] <penguin42> BluesKaj_: I'm on KDE on latest PP - now the version lists as 4.7.90.x in the packages
[13:50] <BluesKaj_> yes , sorry I meant 4.7.9
[13:52] <pangolin> Thank you BluesKaj_ and the same to you.
[13:54] <pangolin> We are getting a light snow fall on Christmas morning, looks like a scene from a postcard :)
[13:54] <BluesKaj_> dolphin isn't listing folders in dirs like /usr/bin and lib and icons drageed to the dwsktop don't launch , just gives an "init filed to launch error"
[13:55] <penguin42> let me try
[13:55] <BluesKaj_> yes , pangolin we finally got some snow yesterday , quite Christamssy here
[13:56] <penguin42> BluesKaj_: It's letting me navigate to /usr/bin and go into /usr/bin/X11
[13:56]  * BluesKaj_ sheds more light on the KB
[13:57] <penguin42> BluesKaj_: And dragging stuff to desktop launches for me
[13:57] <penguin42> at least with PP I won't need to keep forward porting my LUKS patch for KDE
[14:06] <BluesKaj_> heh , this pc is in my den, the other is ourmedia server in the TV room , but this pc (4.7.9) at least shows the the folders as root in the dirs like usr/lib etc, but doesn't launch apps from the desktop.
[14:07] <BluesKaj_> anyway konqueror has no such problems :)
[16:12] <penguin42> hmm - Synergys seems to have gained a reliable crasher in the last few days
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[16:45] <penguin42> hmm not that gdb wants to help today
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[17:50] <penguin42> gah, someone already fixed it upstream
[18:00] <bjsnider> penguin42, create a patch, then do an lp branch and propose it for merging
[18:01] <penguin42> bjsnider: Might make sense just to pull upstream
[18:01] <bjsnider> is it a newer version or just trunk?
[18:03] <penguin42> trunk, not sure when they do releases
[18:04] <bjsnider> so there might not be another one before april
[18:04] <bjsnider> and this problem might not get fixed without your intervention
[18:05] <penguin42> wow - he has a gant chart upstream - so his next 1.3.x release is between April/May - so it will miss
[18:06] <penguin42> he also has a new release on his dev branch at the end of Jan which is probably also a bit close
[18:08] <penguin42> right, I'll grab the upstream patch after I make dinner and then fight with bzr
[18:09] <bjsnider> i can walk you through it if you're a rookie
[18:09] <penguin42> I've done it a handful of times
[18:09] <penguin42> but 1st - time to make a pudding
[18:57] <penguin42> hmm that's one I've not come across before; the bzr link on the package points to http://bzr.licquia.org/synergy/debian/    but I guess I want to make a change against the lp hosted bzr, so should use ubuntu:synergy instead?
[19:49] <Ampelbein> penguin42: The bzr link in the package is where the maintainer stores his packaging information. If you want to make a patch, ubuntu:synergy is indeed the correct location most of the time. There are exceptions though.
[19:49] <Ampelbein> Like the desktop team, which has it's own branches.
[19:51] <penguin42> Ampelbein: This is on synergy; I think this is a bzr hosted by the debian packager; it's also a little confusing since the fix upstream has committed the original patcher has agreed with another patcher that there patch is better
[20:17] <meerkats> are you going to get rid of mono?
[20:18] <penguin42> Ampelbein: right, I think I've done that  and pushed a merge request
[20:18] <penguin42> meerkats: That seems to be the general direction of things; a lot less Gnome stuff uses it now
[20:19] <meerkats> i see
[20:19] <penguin42> (I'm not sure what the official position in)
[20:19] <meerkats> I use mono to play openbve will I still have the chance to use it?
[20:58] <Ampelbein> penguin42: about synergy, please add DEP-3 patch headers (http://dep.debian.net/deps/dep3/). In the header you could include the bit about why you took that patch instead of the original one applied upstream.
[20:59] <penguin42> Ampelbein: So that would go at the start of the actual patch file in debian/patches ?
[21:00] <Ampelbein> penguin42: Correct. Dep3 headers, empty line, patch.
[21:01] <penguin42> Ampelbein: OK thanks, I'll do that in a little while
[21:01] <Ampelbein> Thank you!
[21:01] <Ampelbein> Oh, nice, vlc's status icon has a little christmas hat.
[21:02] <penguin42> if I bzr commit that to my local bzr and bzr push that to the same location, is that the right thing to do or do I do a separate push to a new location?
[21:02] <Ampelbein> just push to the same location, the merge proposal should be automatically updated
[21:03] <penguin42> ok, I need to disappear for an hour or so - I'll do it later
[21:04] <Ampelbein> No worries. I'll be heading off soon-ish too.
[21:14] <bjsnider> "get rid of" mean not on the cd anymore, not "will not be available in ubuntu at all"
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[23:49] <penguin42> Ampelbein: Pushed with some dep3 tags