[14:59] <BigWhale> Who decides which application will be included in the official repository? And if it is too late to get something into Pangolin repository?
[15:01] <bjsnider> no it isn't
[15:04] <dobey> BigWhale: it's a concerted effort; and it's not too late yet. feature freeze is a bit off still, but earlier is better
[15:05] <BigWhale> Cool. Thanks for the info.
[15:12] <BigWhale> I'll try to pull it off.
[15:13] <BigWhale> If I get all the required permissions from previous author.
[15:23] <dobey> BigWhale: what is it?
[15:23] <BigWhale> This https://launchpad.net/kazam
[15:32] <dobey> ah ok
[15:35] <BigWhale> dobey, people actually liked the app, OMG also ran an article on it and I did some work to replace ffmpeg with gstreamer, the author decided he won't continue the work, so ...
[16:06] <bjsnider> BigWhale, so it's dead?
[16:07] <BigWhale> You're name probably isn't Jim... but ... It's dead Jim.
[16:07] <BigWhale> (comma missing there)
[16:07] <bjsnider> why should it be included in precise if it's dead?
[16:08] <BigWhale> bjsnider, I emailed original author today asking him if I can get permissions for Launchpad so that I can pick it up.
[16:08] <bjsnider> i see
[16:08] <BigWhale> bjsnider, I'd like to work on it
[16:08] <BigWhale> and continue maintaining it.
[16:09] <bjsnider> you have the programming acumen to handle it?
[16:10] <bjsnider> of course if he doesn't give you permission you can just fork it
[16:12] <BigWhale> bjsnider, I believe so. For precise I'd just patch things up so it would work. Then I'd like to rewrite GUI in Vala.
[16:19] <BigWhale> And I'd prefer not to fork it. Sometimes it just creates confusion.
[18:46] <BigWhale> docs on ppa versioning are a bit confusing
[18:47] <dobey> BigWhale: what sort of package are you trying to version in your ppa?
[18:48] <BigWhale> well not exactly confusing, I can understand why and what I have to change, just not sure where... :>
[18:48] <BigWhale> dobey, I'm trying to package fixed Kazam into a ppa
[18:48] <dobey> are you building nightlies, or a plain debian package?
[18:49] <BigWhale> just a deb package, no need for nightlies for now
[18:50] <BigWhale> oh changelog
[18:51] <dobey> yes, changelog
[19:04] <BigWhale> Denied, rejected!? Oh my gawd! :'(
[19:04] <BigWhale> :>
[19:07] <BigWhale> Perhaps it doesn't like that I changed my GPG key just recently ...
[19:11] <BigWhale> hmm, two files were acceted, but .changes file was rejected ...
[19:13] <dobey> ignore those errors
[19:14] <BigWhale> yeah I noticed that package was uploaded and it is being built
[19:14] <BigWhale> this auto build is really neat
[19:25] <BigWhale> Package built, app is installable, ppa is working, app is working, pushing changes ... yay.
[19:42] <bjsnider> BigWhale, just slap ~ppa1 or something on the end of the version string in changelog
[19:55] <BigWhale> bjsnider, I just added ppa1 to the end, docs didn't say anything about ~ :>
[20:18] <dobey> yes they do
[20:19] <dobey> but really it should be $UPSTREAM_VERSION-$NEXT_DEBIAN_VERSION~$SERIES(N)
[20:19] <dobey> so 0.0.0-0ubuntu2~oneiric1 for example
[20:19] <BigWhale> there must be many docs
[20:20] <BigWhale> many different docs
[20:20] <BigWhale> https://help.launchpad.net/Packaging/PPA/BuildingASourcePackage#versioning
[20:20] <BigWhale> here's where I looked
[20:20] <dobey> oh, it has two different sets of versioning recommendations, which both pretty much suck
[20:20] <dobey> :-/
[20:21] <BigWhale> It says that I should add ~oneiric1 ...
[20:21] <BigWhale> after the ppa1
[20:21] <dobey> ah yes, it also says that
[20:21] <dobey> but the ppa1 in there is just bad :-/
[20:22] <BigWhale> I followed this example: "To do this, add the suffix ppan (where n is your package's revision number). Two examples: "
[20:22] <BigWhale> but I'll change to whatever it is supposed to be. :)
[20:23] <dobey> i think someone needs to fix the docs