[09:03] <dax> That was Snowhog's odd way of saying the Floodbots broke yet again in #kubuntu.
[09:04] <dax> I think they are now fixed until the next leaf or dust mote falls on them.
[18:52] <iToast> oCean: -_-
[18:52] <iToast> It was a completly valid question.
[18:53] <iToast> You've CLEARLY ignored my pm, I DOUBT you really care.
[18:54] <oCean> Your question was again offtopic
[18:54] <oCean> I've warned you several times about that
[18:54] <oCean> yet you like to continue and see if you can get away with it
[18:54] <oCean> no more
[18:56] <iToast> oCean: If you were not a op, you'd say nothing.
[18:56] <iToast> Your starting to act like thumbs. You don't like me.
[18:56] <iToast> I actually need to ask a important question now, but I can not.
[18:56] <oCean> Exactly
[18:57] <oCean> those are the consequences
[18:57] <iToast> Thumbs.
[18:57] <oCean> Thumbs?
[18:57] <iToast> If you were to ever talk to him you'd understand.
[18:57] <oCean> Anyway, you're holding against me that I warned you again and again?
[18:57] <iToast> He +b'd me in #mysql for not posting "valid sql". WIthout providing instructions on how to get it.
[18:58] <iToast> IDK How "SELECT * FROM LOGINS" isn't valid in any way.
[18:58] <oCean> I don't see how this is related. I don't know this thumbs person
[18:58] <iToast> You'l understand one day.
[18:59] <iToast> I need to ask a question and now I can not.
[18:59] <oCean> Correct
[18:59] <iToast> Can I get a -b?
[19:00] <iToast> I'm expecting a no, but il wait for a reply.
[19:00] <oCean> I've asked you several times to behave
[19:00] <oCean> how are you going to convince me that your are will behave when I let you back in?
[19:00] <iToast> I've been told to goto #distro-server always. When i enter those channels, They are usualy silent.
[19:01] <oCean> yes, especially during the holidays
[19:01] <iToast> They are dead 24/7 unless heavy development is going on.
[19:02] <iToast> May i get  -b?
[19:03] <oCean> how are you going to convince me that your will behave when I let you back in?
[19:03] <iToast> The fact that I came into this channel to politely ask for a -b on me in #ubuntu is one thing.
[19:03] <oCean> you're talkback does not convince me you respect our guidelines and/or coc
[19:03] <iToast> coc?
[19:04] <oCean> !coc > iToast
[19:04] <iToast> Sounds like TOS
[19:04] <oCean> !guidelines > iToast
[19:05] <iToast> I have it open in another tab now.
[19:06] <oCean> So, next time an operator or channel users tells you not to do this or that, basically to keep the channel family friendly and professional, you will no longer talkback with smart comments
[19:07] <iToast> Can i still use '...'
[19:08] <iToast> oCean: Can I get a answer.
[19:09] <oCean> I'm busy doing something else. The ... is just one of those "smart" comments, you're just showing you don't like OP interruption
[19:09] <oCean> Read the guidelines and stick to those, you won't get any comments on your behaviour
[19:10] <iToast> I am not shure how '...' is smart...
[19:10] <iToast> It just means I have nothing to follow or no comment.
[19:10] <oCean> Then don't send it to the channel
[19:11] <iToast> But its not in the COC O.ol
[19:11] <iToast> O.o*
[19:11] <oCean> In case you haven't noticed #u is quite a heavy traffic channel, we don't need nonsense message to add to the clutter
[19:11] <iToast> #u?
[19:11] <oCean> you know what, you just take a break and think about our guidelines
[19:11] <oCean> Come back tomorrow and we'll talk then
[19:12] <oCean> I have other things to do atm
[19:12] <iToast> I need the answer today.
[19:12] <oCean> which question
[19:13] <iToast> Well the important one and if I may have a -b? I'l follow COC
[19:13] <oCean> I just told you, come back tomorrow. So, "no" for the -b right now
[19:13] <iToast> I'd really like to ask today.
[19:14] <iToast> It makes my choice on my new os
[19:14] <oCean> yeah, that's not going to convince me, sorry
[19:14] <iToast> Its not about convincing you.
[19:15] <iToast> If I wan'ted to convince, I'd use a better reason.
[19:15] <oCean> actually, it is about convincing me to let you back in
[19:15] <iToast> What is it then?
[19:17] <oCean> That you can behave, that you will follow instructions from others on how to behave, all this without smart talkback and/or looking for loopholes in the guidelines.
[19:17] <oCean> Convince me, or a fellow OP tomorrow, and you have your chance again
[19:17] <iToast> I said i'd follow the COC
[19:17] <iToast> The way i'm speaking here should be a convincing thing.
[19:18] <oCean> Have you read the CoC and Guidelines?
[19:18] <iToast> Yes.
[19:19] <oCean> Do you see how my comments on your offtopic messages was completely justified?
[19:19] <iToast> Yes
[19:20] <oCean> Great, thanks for understanding
[19:20] <oCean> there is a catch in removing the ban though
[19:20] <iToast> What is the catch?
[19:20] <oCean> once you get +b again, it's going to be a *lot* harder to get it removed
[19:21] <oCean> lots of convincing todo, you see?
[19:21] <iToast> I see.
[19:21] <oCean> Well, I actually need an "I agree"
[19:21] <iToast> I agree
[19:21] <oCean> Fine
[19:22] <iToast> How come "fine"
[19:22] <iToast> I thought you'd be happier that I've read the COC and Guidelines
[19:22] <oCean> Sure, that too. But I needed you to understand concequences, since those are not mentioned there
[19:23] <iToast> Ok
[19:23] <oCean> hang on
[19:23] <oCean> I'm about to remove the +b
[19:23] <oCean> try to say something in #u?
[19:23] <iToast> I wish you'd be happier.
[19:24] <iToast> [14:24] == Cannot send to channel: #ubuntu
[19:24] <oCean> please /part the #u channel and join again
[19:24] <oCean> it's a floodbot thing I think
[19:25] <oCean> it took a while, your exempt is set
[19:25] <oCean> there you are
[19:25] <oCean> all set it seems
[19:25] <oCean> but actually, I *am* happy we had this talk
[19:26] <oCean> I am most definitely not after *you*
[19:26] <iToast> So you don't hate me like thumbs?
[19:26] <oCean> I cannot speak for thumbs, but I don't hate you
[19:26] <oCean> really
[19:26] <iToast> "thumbs" denies hating me. but follows me channel to channel to tell me to follow a different channels TOS
[19:26] <oCean> I'd like for you to be in the channel participating
[19:27] <oCean> there's just some ground rules, those are there for everyone
[19:27] <oCean> so, good thing you popped in here, I hope you'll enjoy #ubuntu
[19:29] <oCean> iToast: all that's left for me is to point you to our channel's topic, especially the no-idling policy
[20:03] <oCean> iToast: ^
[20:20] <popey> ./4
[20:20] <popey> bah
[20:27] <Sidewinder1> I just wanted to wish all of you hard working gals/guys, a very Merry Christmas! I know, so much of what you all do, sometimes goes unnoticed (not here). I thought y'all deserved a special "kudo', from me!
[20:30] <Flannel> thanks Sidewinder1, it's appreciated.
[20:31] <Sidewinder1> Even if those, who benefit from your efforts, do not recognize, or even know of those efforts, it doesn't mean that they are unappreciated. Your tireless devotion and, most importantly, your most valuable time is more than greatly appreciated!
[20:32] <Sidewinder1> Wouldn't want your jobs for "all the tea in China!" I just felt it necessary to publicly announce that.
[20:34] <Sidewinder1> I just wish there was more that I could do, other than wish all of you Merry, merry Christmas!!
[20:35] <Sidewinder1> Hope Santa was good to all of you.. Enjoy!!
[21:27] <guntbert> hi, can someone have a nice little talk with dork - he won't listen to me
[21:30] <Flannel> guntbert: from what I can see, he's gotten better about using enter since you mentioned it.  I'll keep an eye out.
[21:33] <guntbert> Flannel: ok, but I wasn't too happy about him pasting my nice PM (with not so nice comment) either, in PM he states that he is right in what he does
[21:35] <guntbert> anyways_ have a nice time and thanks for listening
[21:35] <Flannel> guntbert: Some people can get wound up about personal things like that.  It's sometimes best to let things slide.  Going toe to toe with him about this won't do much except get people upset all around, and if his behavior has changed (away from enter-as-punctuation), then the end result is accomplished already.
[21:37] <oCean> dork does like to talkback to any comment on his behaviour he doesn't like
[21:38] <oCean> anyone capable of removing iToast from here?
[21:51] <oCean> thanks
[21:51] <mneptok> np
[21:51] <oCean> And if he behaves, there's no need for him to return :)
[22:11] <iToast> mneptok: Why tomorrow O.o