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[04:39] <fivedaysahead> xubuntu for the win! and merry christmas!
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[04:55] <xubuntu119> Installing XUbuntu!
[05:44] <coolstar-pc> Does Compiz work under Xubuntu?
[05:47] <coolstar-pc> I got my answer from #xfce. :)
[06:18] <coolstar-pc> For some reason Firefox on xubuntu doesn't play html5 video. Any Ideas?
[08:02] <lufei> I use xubuntu 11.10, i have a problem, how to brow the bluetooth device? the default command to start an obex browser is nautilus --browser obex://[%d], but when i install the nautilus, the nautilus have no --browser param, I cannot browser the device file.
[08:29] <xi4i> apache wich i run on my xubuntu machine is not visible from another machine on the same network. how can i fix that?
[11:50] <Kurdistan> hi guys I read on ubuntuforums that xubuntu 12.04 will be support 3 years and not 5 years like regulare ubuntu is this true?
[11:57] <Myrtti> Kurdistan: 1204 will be the first ever Xubuntu LTS anyway
[11:57] <Kurdistan> Myrtti, I understand, but still is it for 3 years or 5?
[12:13] <Sysi> Kurdistan: xfce upstream would make it really hard to have 5 year support, three is hard but possible because debian has extended support
[12:14] <Kurdistan> Sysi, okey. only wanted to know if that is true or not.
[12:14] <Kurdistan> :) nothing about if its good or bad
[12:15] <Sysi> it sure is true, there should be log available from meeting where it was decided
[12:16] <Kurdistan> Sysi, okey thx for the info. maybe it would be good if xubuntu can write that in the release notes for 12.04
[12:16] <Kurdistan> so everyone knowns the difference
[12:17] <Sysi> it probably will be there, but it's still several months to final release
[12:17] <Kurdistan> Sysi, thats true.
[12:17] <Kurdistan> are you tryi g
[12:17] <Kurdistan> xubuntu 12.04?
[12:18] <Kurdistan> any major difference yet?
[12:19] <Sysi> no new xfce release yet, and not anything *really* big after that either
[12:19] <oobiloz> happy holidays everyone
[12:20] <Sysi> happy newton's birthday (#xubuntu-offtopic)
[12:21] <knome> Sysi, ot
[12:21] <knome> err
[12:21] <knome> Sysi, it's not decided yet, but that's the most possible outcome.
[12:21] <Sysi> oh, I've misunderstood something
[12:22] <Sysi> but yeah, anyway not 5 years
[12:22] <Kurdistan> thx guys. need to log out. xubuntu 11.10 is a great release with 4.8. before 4.8 I really did not like xfce.
[12:22] <Kurdistan> now it feels gnome 2-ish :)
[16:19] <lighta> hi guys, having quite an uninstallation issue here. I have netbeans 7 installed directly from the site, and had an older netbeans 6 from repo, now when I'm trying to uninstall via apt-get he telling me there no packtage but I can see it still here
[16:23] <holstein> lighta: if you dont use the package manager to install, it wont offer to uninstall
[16:23] <holstein> thats the drag about *not* using pacakges from the repos
[16:24] <holstein> you should check out the documentation with the downloaded application and see how you are to remove it
[16:24] <lighta> hmm ok holstein, ah ye maybe they put something in the makefile
[16:24] <lighta> thanks
[16:25] <holstein> lighta: theres a make command i used that someone turned me on to, but i totally forget it
[16:25] <lighta> maybe dpkg ?
[16:25] <holstein> it makes the package manager "aware" of the install so you can apt-get autoremove it or whatever
[16:26] <holstein> lighta: nah... its a make or make install alternative
[16:26] <lighta> hmm ok tell me if you remenber
[16:26] <lighta> that would be much apreciate
[16:26] <holstein> well, for next time ;)
[16:26] <lighta> I'll try to found installation file !
[16:27] <holstein> someone in #ubuntubeginners told me about it, and that install is long gone
[16:27] <holstein> i was told it doesnt work every time
[16:27] <lighta> wich install ?
[16:27] <holstein> or, it cant work every time, rather
[16:28] <holstein> lighta: the alternate build step im speaking about that i cant remember what its called
[16:28] <lighta> actually netbeans working quite fine but launching could be annoying, turn off at launch 3 or 4 time before getting stable ><
[16:28] <lighta> ah ok
[16:29] <lighta> I don't get, what the ppa link here ? https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/netbeans
[16:30] <holstein> ppa's are handy
[16:30] <holstein> thats another way to add 'package manager aware' applications that dont come in the default repos
[16:30] <lighta> well since netbeans seem unsuported in repo now, I can't do otherwise
[16:31] <holstein> lighta: you have the version of netbeans that was out at the release of your version of ubuntu
[16:31] <holstein> you can get the current one backported
[16:31] <lighta> "Package netbeans is not available, but is referred to by another package. This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or is only available from another source"
[16:32] <holstein> i would be readine https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Netbeans
[16:32] <holstein> java is gone now btw
[16:32] <holstein> you need to get the open JDK
[16:33] <holstein> from what i read, there will be a java update that just purges java from buntu
[16:33] <lighta> I think all that ok
[16:33] <holstein> lighta: you think what? java?
[16:33] <holstein> its getting pulled
[16:33] <lighta> well java on ubuntu was,t installed fine anyway, I mean not as good as from site
[16:34] <lighta> a index issue something like that
[16:34] <holstein> sure, but you are pretty far away from ubuntu right now, support wise
[16:35] <lighta> sad =(
[16:35] <lighta> and about other version holstein , project wont work
[16:35] <lighta> well I should export them at least
[16:36] <holstein> im not sure what you *should* do... i would suggest thinking about reducing variables
[16:37] <lighta> hmm probably exporting project would be more stable, damn that annoying
[16:38] <holstein> lighta: or, you could elaborate about what 'project' is, and exactly what you are trying to do, and on what version of ubuntu, and what all else you have customized
[16:53] <lighta> ok holstein I purge it, I'll look if it more stable now. (there was 6.9 remaning conf file)
[16:54] <holstein> yup, it'll leave whatever the pacakge maintainer decides to leave
[16:54] <holstein> i would look for a PPA
[16:58] <johny_> I have a problem with extremely slow wifi connection in xubuntu can you help me ?
[16:59] <holstein> johny_: you can try another driver.. its really easy to try the windows drivers with ndisgtk now-a-days
[17:00] <johny_> I just wonder if it is not some kind of already known issue...
[17:01] <holstein> johny_: probably... you can run lspci and get the line about the graphics card and search for a bug
[17:01] <holstein> typically, if its something that can be supported, it is
[17:02] <johny_> Why graphics card?
[17:03] <holstein> johny_: network card
[17:03] <holstein> that was an error... gotta run!... good luck
[17:03] <johny_> thx
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[23:41] <pimperle> on my latest xubuntu install on my notebook, the display turns darker after only a few seconds when not moving the mouse or typing anything when running on battery
[23:41] <pimperle> i tried to adjust the setting in xfce4-power-manager-settings, but the behaviour did not change
[23:42] <pimperle> is there any other way in oneiric, where I should adjust that setting?
[23:43] <pimperle> it turns darker (not off) after about 10 seconds
[23:57] <mongy> pimperle, anything in screensaver settings ?
[23:58] <pimperle> i already checked the xscreensaver settings without success and also killed xscreensaver process to be sure it doesn't cause this
[23:58] <pimperle> http://askubuntu.com/questions/65969/display-brightness-goes-two-shades-darker-if-i-am-idle-for-10-11-seconds
[23:58] <pimperle> it's this guys problem, but i don't have gnome so the panel doesn't exist on my system
[23:59] <pimperle> and i cannot figure out which underlying setting is affected by it
[23:59] <pimperle> killing xfce4-power-manager doesn't help as well