[00:07] <CIA-48> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kde-l10n-common-oneiric] Philip Muškovac * 115 * debian/ (changelog config) New upstream release candidate (svn: 1269625, type: unstable) PPA backport
[02:44] <JontheEchidna> floodbots are acting up again. could somebody with privileges take care of it?
[02:50] <JontheEchidna> nevermind, I got it
[02:50] <JontheEchidna> apparently I'm an op in #kubuntu :>
[13:06] <yofel> 4.7.95 ready for oneiric and precise in ninjas, please test 
[13:21] <_Groo_> hi/2 all
[13:22] <_Groo_> yofel: hi yofi :D
[13:22] <_Groo_> yofel: im upgrading to 4.7.95... lets see what breaks :D
[13:23] <_Groo_> one thing ive seen is that chrome/chromium proxies dont work anymore
[13:23] <_Groo_> something changed in the new proxy settings
[13:46] <CIA-48> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/ktouch] Philip Muškovac * 16 * debian/ (changelog control) bump breaks/replaces of ktouch-data on ktouch
[13:49] <Riddell> woo, go yofel 
[13:51] <Riddell> and happy boxing day :)
[13:55] <yofel> happy lazy day :P
[13:55] <yofel> as that's what I'll be doing most of the day 
[14:36] <Riddell> yofel: ug, plasma-desktop uninstalled itself
[14:36] <yofel> o.O
[14:36] <yofel> where?
[14:38] <Riddell> yofel: on dist-upgrade
[14:39] <Riddell> also kdm refused to start because startkde was not there then refused to start because horos theme was not there
[14:39] <Riddell> but shiny new amarok icon :)
[14:43] <yofel> can you give me your apt history? I didn't get such a situation anywhere here
[15:01] <Riddell> yofel: people.canonical.com/~jriddell/tmp/history.log
[15:03] <Riddell> and term.log
[15:07] <yofel> Riddell: when kubuntu-desktop and others were removed, you weren't upgrading to 4.7.95, but installing some 4.7.90 updates
[15:07] <yofel> Preparing to replace kdm 4:4.7.90-0ubuntu1~ppa1~oneiric2 (using .../kdm_4%3a4.7.90-0ubuntu2~ppa3~oneiric1_i386.deb) ...
[15:09] <yofel> you then installed iw, upgraded to 4.7.95 and reinstalled kubuntu-desktop
[15:13] <yofel> no idea what happened there, I can install kde from beta ppa fine in a chroot on 32bit
[15:17] <Riddell> hmm, perhaps I forgot apt-get update?  sign my brain hasn't recovered
[15:23] <_Groo_> kmix bug is still there
[15:24] <_Groo_> run a movie with umplayer for ex... see kmix go 100% and memory start rising
[15:24] <Riddell> get a backtrace then and file a beastie
[15:25] <_Groo_> Riddell: i have 8 GBs ram
[15:25] <_Groo_> it will take forever for him to crash
[15:25] <_Groo_> it goes up in 700k zips...
[15:25] <_Groo_> i left it for half an hour, was still at 100MB...
[15:25] <_Groo_> its a lot...
[15:25] <_Groo_> but it would take all day to crash :D
[15:25] <Riddell> learn how to use gdb to get a backtrace without a crash, then a file a beastie :)
[15:26] <_Groo_> Riddell: ¬¬ fine
[15:26] <_Groo_> anyone else observing this with 4.7.95?
[15:26] <Riddell> no but I'm not playing anything
[15:47] <yofel> _Groo_: me, happens pretty much everytime when I close flash
[15:47] <yofel> the crash is gone though
[15:49] <_Groo_> yofel: yeah i had the flash problem in 4.7.90 too
[15:50] <_Groo_> yofel: it doesnt crash because you prolly have a lot of RAM and its leaking much less.. but still leaks
[15:50] <_Groo_> when it goes 100% do a ctrl-esc and watch it go up 700k at a time
[15:50] <_Groo_> it WILL crash, overnight for ex :D
[15:50] <yofel> no, I got kmix crashes when a pulse stream was closed with 4.7.90, in 4.7.95 it doesn't crash anymore
[15:51] <yofel> the 100% CPU bug in in both 4.7.90 and 95
[15:51] <yofel> s/in/is/
[15:51] <kubotu> yofel meant: "the 100% CPU bug is in both 4.7.90 and 95"
[15:51] <_Groo_> yofel: ah ok
[15:51] <_Groo_> s/no i didnt//
[15:51] <kubotu> _Groo_: You did something wrong... Try s/you/me/ or tell me "help sed"
[15:51] <_Groo_> hes smarter then i thought :P
[15:52] <_Groo_> s/no i didnt/ /
[15:52] <kubotu> _Groo_: You did something wrong... Try s/you/me/ or tell me "help sed"
[15:52] <_Groo_> ¬¬
[15:53] <_Groo_> what the dev gods are saying about the 100% kmix bug? looking at it?
[15:55] <yofel> there's a bug open upstream, no idea if there's progress though
[17:53] <_Groo_> yofel: its bizarre
[17:53] <_Groo_> i just watched 8 straight youtube videos... kmix didnt went bezerk
[17:53] <_Groo_> its random :P
[17:53] <yofel> close the browser tab?
[17:57] <_Groo_> yofel: yep
[18:00] <_Groo_> yofel: ahah i played in clementine and kmix went to 100%...
[18:00] <yofel> ...
[18:00] <_Groo_> its when you channge pipes aparently
[18:00] <_Groo_> something between new kmix code and pulseaudio pipes
[19:12] <_Groo_> yofel: new kde broke proxy support for chrome(ium)
[19:16] <Riddell> interesting that, chrome must be using some unsupported interface (like reading the config files) for proxy info
[19:16] <Riddell> that should have been a freedesktop.org spec for ages
[19:27] <_Groo_> Riddell: http://noughmad.com/2011/12/26/appmenu-is-here/ can i have my 4.8 in oneiric pls? ;)
[19:28] <Riddell> it's available
[19:29] <Riddell> oh Qt 4.8, the version numbers have finally aligned
[19:38] <yofel> anyone against me publishing 4.7.95? It's only RC anyway
[19:38] <Riddell> yofel: go for it
[19:39] <Riddell> need any help?
[19:40] <yofel> for precise I'll appreciate it, oneiric is just running a script
[19:41] <Riddell> what script for oneiric?
[19:42] <Riddell> what needs doing for precise?
[19:42] <yofel> oneiric is just: $ kopypackages -a ppa:kubuntu-ninjas/ppa oneiric ppa:kubuntu-ppa/beta oneiric
[19:42] <Riddell> oh dear, who came up with that name
[19:42] <yofel> which I'm doing now
[19:42] <yofel> uh.. me ^^
[19:43] <Riddell> evil k, KDE has been trying to shed that for years
[19:43] <yofel> precise is publishing, committing and tagging every package
[19:43] <Riddell> even if it doesn't quite know it yet
[19:44] <yofel> ah well, most scripts in kubuntu-dev-tools are equally mis-named then
[19:44] <yofel> guess we can discuss that sometime
[19:44] <Riddell> just some long for loops when I do it, some very long running of course
[19:46] <apachelogger> that k there is for kubuntu :P
[19:46] <apachelogger> kubuntucopypackages is a bitty of a silly name :P
[19:46] <yofel> ETOOLONG
[19:47] <Riddell> bah kubuntu's name is all jeff waugh's fault, it's a gnome conspiracy
[19:48] <apachelogger> lets rename ... 
[19:48] <CIA-48> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kdelibs] Philip Muškovac * 393 * debian/changelog releasing version 4:4.7.95-0ubuntu1
[19:48] <apachelogger> how about zomglinux
[19:49] <yofel> sounds like pclinuxos
[19:49] <Riddell> zomggnulinux
[19:49] <apachelogger> where does that gnu come from?
[19:50] <Riddell> zomgkgx!
[19:50] <CIA-48> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/meta-kde] Philip Muškovac * 27 * debian/changelog releasing version 5:71~pre15ubuntu8
[19:51] <apachelogger> haunted linux
[19:52] <yofel> should I skip l10n for the archive as parts of rc1 l10n don't build?
[19:52] <Riddell> yeah, if it's any hassle
[19:53] <apachelogger> yofel: as long as you complain to upstreamz
[19:53] <yofel> apachelogger: there was talk about it on -packagers
[19:53] <apachelogger> cc some more lists :P
[19:54] <yofel> nah, seems they fixed it
[19:54] <apachelogger> awww
[19:54] <apachelogger> ETOOSLOW
[20:52] <_Groo_> yofel: ill give cookies all around if you can port 4.8 to oneiric too :D
[20:52] <_Groo_> yofel: it should work *tm* out of the box :P
[20:52] <yofel> _Groo_: uh... it's already in the beta ppa?
[20:52] <_Groo_> yofel: oO wha???
[20:52] <yofel> :D
[20:52] <_Groo_> checking
[20:52] <yofel> _Groo_: https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/beta/+packages
[20:53] <_Groo_> never release cookies before checking
[20:55] <_Groo_> yofel: i dont see qt 4.8 there
[20:55] <yofel> _Groo_: ah wait, now we're mixing kde and qt
[20:56] <yofel> I don't see qt 4.8 in precise either
[20:56] <_Groo_> yofel: eheh thats why the cookies :D
[20:56] <_Groo_> yofel: kde i know, remember i kudo you yesterday for 4.7.95 :D
[20:57] <_Groo_> me wants qt 4.8 cause of this http://noughmad.com/2011/12/26/appmenu-is-here/
[20:57] <yofel> I'm not touching qt I fear, at least not until kde is done and a few other things on my todo list are done
[20:57] <_Groo_> yofel: changed a lot from 4.7?
[20:57] <_Groo_> package wise
[20:57] <yofel> well, I have no idea, and I'm not willing to take the riks
[20:57] <yofel> *risk
[20:58] <_Groo_> im gonna take for a spin tomorrow then
[20:58] <yofel> it'll probably at least need a patch review
[20:58] <_Groo_> get 4.8, 4.7 debians to 4.8 and see what breaks :)
[20:58] <_Groo_> yofel: i usually build without patches
[20:58] <_Groo_> first
[20:58] <_Groo_> first
[20:58] <yofel> well, you'll have to review them at *some* point
[20:59] <_Groo_> yofel: nah, i just send all bug reports to #phonon
[21:00] <yofel> lol
[21:03] <_Groo_> precise will go for qt 4.8 or still 4.7.x?
[21:03] <_Groo_> is there still time?
[21:03] <Riddell> _Groo_: of course we've patched qt for appmenu for ages
[21:03] <Riddell> since we wrote it
[21:04] <_Groo_> Riddell: yeah but i want the second choice... menus in the window border
[21:04] <_Groo_> dont like appmenus
[21:04] <_Groo_> i dont like macs..
[21:05] <_Groo_> i dont like stupid menus floating out of the window
[21:07] <_Groo_> Riddell: does the kubuntu qt also has the patch for the second kind?
[21:08] <_Groo_> btw according to the blog, to use menus in the window border seamlessly , gtk needs to be recompiled
[21:08] <_Groo_> i know kubuntu doesnt ship gtk libs per default
[21:09] <_Groo_> my question is.. would ubuntu devs be suportive of recompiling gtk libs before precise gets out? or its out of the question?
[21:09] <_Groo_> to integrate with qt 4.8?
[21:10] <Riddell> qt exports the menu, anything can display it if it has the code
[21:10] <Riddell> gtk too
[21:13] <_Groo_> Riddell: second choice, menus in the window border... needs a gtk recompile to be able to be used when using qt/kde
[21:13] <_Groo_> i believe the author is refering with the oxygen-gtk theme prolly
[21:21] <_Groo_> seeya all tomorrow