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[04:48] <thelonelyarcher> Hi all. Can anyone tell me the difference between 32 and 64 bit? Apart from the obvious RAM issues, what are the real pros & cons of choosing one over the other? Thanks.
[05:04] <holstein> thelonelyarcher: depends... some processort intensive tasks should be noticeably faster on 64bit
[05:04] <holstein> no deal breakers anymore really... i say, just try it... you can try either live
[05:04] <holstein> theres also no real advantage for the casual user
[05:12] <thelonelyarcher> Ok. Thanks. I encode video a lot, will it be faster then? If so, how much?
[05:14] <holstein> thelonelyarcher: even if you told me what hardware you have, i could only speculate
[05:14] <holstein> thelonelyarcher: there are so many variables too
[05:15] <holstein> i literally dont worry about it
[05:15] <holstein> if the application is not written to utilize 64bit, the the overhead could arguably be slower on 64bit (or so i understand)
[05:17] <holstein> i have both 64 and 32 bit installs... my server is 64 now, and my audio recording machine... everything else is 32bit... theres one application (lightscribe) that is not written for 64... im sure there are plenty of work-arounds for running that in 64bit now
[05:50] <micahg> with multiarch, some i386 application should be installable on amd64, this will be better supported in precise, if you find an app that doesn't install, please file a bug and tag multiarch
[05:54] <wxl> hey what do you guys use to play audio cds? seems gnome mplayer is skippy.
[05:57] <micahg> goobox, banshee
[05:57] <wxl> is this a known problem in gnome mplayer? i don't see why it should be an issue..
[05:58] <wxl> works fine in audacious oddly now that i figured out how to play there
[06:11] <Jakash3> i made lubuntu look like this: http://i39.tinypic.com/ehn2wl.png
[06:12] <wxl> Jakash3: nice. figure out real transparency (not just background of the desktop) on lxterminal and you get a +1 ;)
[14:16] <s-lion> HELP !!!!! :D
[14:21] <s-lion> phillw : ping
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[15:09] <lubby> Merry Christmas :)
[15:14] <bkm> happy boxing day
[15:20] <s-lion> bkm: same 2 u
[15:43] <falcon_> how do I find and run applications that don't show up in menu. using 11.04
[15:48] <lubiana> falcon_: like on the terminal?
[15:50] <lubiana> falcon_: you could try to type "whereis [aplication name]"
[15:51] <lubiana> or apropos [aplication name]
[16:05] <lubby> does anyone know what I can try to make my builtin MSI U100 webcam work? I've already tried following this guide, but the driver download link seems down - http://ambospeak.blogspot.com/2008/12/getting-msi-wind-webcam-to-work-under.html
[16:06] <lubby> also, this compatibility list states that webcam issues should have been fixed in 11.04 and higher - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport/Machines/Netbooks#MSI_Wind_U100
[16:07] <holstein> lubby: i would try a live CD... maybe even 11.04.. you could have broken something trying to get that driver installed
[16:08] <lubby> holstein: I couldn't even download the driver because the link was down, so I haven't actually modified any files related to the webcam
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[16:09] <holstein> lubby: i would run lspci and/or lsusb and see if its showing up there
[16:09] <holstein> personally, i find it easy to use live CD's for trouble-shooting purposes... sometimes i hop around and see what kernel supports what and try and figure out why
[16:14] <lubby> holstein: let me guess, the command "lsusb -v && lspci -v > lsinfo.txt" only gives me the output of one of the commands right?
[16:16] <holstein> lubby: is the system recognizing the device?
[16:16] <holstein> thats step one... doesnt matter how you want to determine that
[16:17] <lubby> doesn't seem so, I'm trying to figure out how to route the STDOUT of lspci and lsusb into a text file, but I guess that shouldn't have such a big priority as of now :p
[16:18] <holstein> lubby: i would double-double check the bios as well.. make sure its enabled
[16:20] <lubby> holstein: http://linux.kpaste.net/625775a
[16:21] <lubby> I should probably update my BIOS as well, but as of now I can download only an .exe file and .bat file from MSI website, so that means booting in a (temporary) windows environment and doing that from there
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[16:27] <lubby> holstein: should I enable AHCI in BIOS or is this completely unrelated?
[16:27] <DrDuck> Hi. I'm having issues with my wireless connection. I've just freshly installed Lubuntu 11.10. When trying to use wifi, I'm prompted with: device not ready (firmware missing). I have a wired connection handy, if there's anything in specific that I need to install. Would anyone mind guiding me into the right direction with the appropriate commands to run?
[16:28] <lubby> DrDuck: what does your ifconfig say?
[16:28] <holstein> check this out assuming you have broadcom hardware https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx
[16:28] <holstein> DrDuck: ^^
[16:29] <s-lion> folks, what kind of local webserver for php you recommend? i am learning to program php and need to review some scripts with linux :(
[16:30] <holstein> lubby: just for the lulz, try the keyboard shortcuts too... to enalbe/disable
[16:30] <holstein> enable*
[16:31] <holstein> s-lion: http://www.turnkeylinux.org/lampstack runs great (even live)
[16:32] <s-lion> is there one that i can simply install by synaptic?
[16:32] <holstein> s-lion: theres php
[16:32] <lubby> hmm, that's an idea
[16:32] <s-lion> holstein : sorry?
[16:33] <holstein> s-lion: you can just go and install php
[16:33] <s-lion> ok ... sorry but i am a bloody beginner on linux. how will i get that viewing my scripts?
[16:33] <holstein> i really like the live environments for that though.. in virtualbox for example... you *cant* break your current system
[16:34] <holstein> s-lion: thats why im suggesting you do it live, so you can view your scripts in an enviroment that is 'safe'
[16:34] <lubby> it worked LOL
[16:34] <lubby> epic lulz are had
[16:34] <s-lion> holstein : thx
[16:34] <holstein> if you want to just install php on your current system, you'll need to start reading some documenation so-as not to break anything
[16:35] <holstein> lubby: SWEET!
[16:35] <holstein> that was relatively painless ;)
[16:35] <lubby> honestly I had absolutely no expectation it would be so easy and obvious
[16:36] <DrDuck> I'm unsure of whether I use broadcom or not. This is my lspci: nvz, usr13: This is my lspci - http://pastebin.com/Rh4FisPn
[16:36] <DrDuck> http://pastebin.com/Rh4FisPn
[16:36] <DrDuck> Darned copy paste. :X
[16:36] <lubby> I just did "uvcdynctrl -l" and there it is, BisonCam, NB Pro
[16:37] <holstein> DrDuck: Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4322 802.11a/b/g/n Wireless LAN Controller (rev 01)
[16:38] <holstein> so now, we reference https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx
[16:39] <holstein> if memory serves, its firmware-b43-installer... open a terminal and run
[16:39] <holstein> sudo apt-get install firmware-b43-installer
[16:41] <DrDuck> Ok. Thank you a ton, holstein. Gonna give it a try now on the lappy. Need to disconnect my wired connection from the desktop really quick to try, though. Be right back.
[16:43] <s-lion> holstein : you are doing an awesome job out here ;)
[16:43] <s-lion> just want to say thx for your time and patience. guess i am not the only one meaning this ;)
[16:47] <falcon_> Want to delete the games that came with lubuntu but from synaptic it said it would have to remove whole desktop???
[16:48] <falcon_> want to put my own games there but the menu is already quite big and I want to get rid of them
[16:59] <DrDuck> holstein: It worked! Thank you. :D
[16:59] <DrDuck> I had to use STA, though. But that reference was really helpful.
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