| Fudge | no alpha2 yet? | 00:47 |
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| funkyHat | Fudge: no, not until Feb apparently. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PrecisePangolin/ReleaseSchedule | 00:53 |
| Fudge | tks funkyHat | 00:55 |
| Fudge | i couldnt get the 64 alpha 1 to boot but 32 did | 00:55 |
| penguin42 | Fudge: Did you report it? | 00:55 |
| Fudge | penguin42 yeah i discussed it in here but no one else I am aware of had the same issue | 00:58 |
| Daekdroom | Have you tried the daily build? | 00:59 |
| penguin42 | Fudge: Ah but have you filed a LP bug report, and how exactly does it fail? | 00:59 |
| Fudge | penguin42 no i didnt, i did not know why it failed as i can not read the screen, so had not enough information to report | 01:02 |
| penguin42 | Fudge: When you say you can't read it - you mean it is black/fuzzy/etc ? | 01:03 |
| Fudge | no mate i am blind | 01:04 |
| Fudge | well blind enough that i can not read anything on the screen | 01:04 |
| penguin42 | Fudge: Oh ok, hmm I know there are blind kernel devs so there are setups to help | 01:05 |
| Fudge | you have had ssuccess with 64bit? | 01:05 |
| penguin42 | Fudge: Yeh I've got two machines running 64bit here | 01:06 |
| penguin42 | Fudge: Do you have a digital camera? | 01:06 |
| penguin42 | If you can get a picture of a crash screen I'd be happy to try and interpret it | 01:07 |
| Fudge | thanx dude, I have a mate coming over later today, I will get him to read out errors. checksum is fine btw. | 01:08 |
| penguin42 | What's the hardware out of interest? | 01:09 |
| Fudge | g31 intel core 2 duo e5200 i think | 01:28 |
| penguin42 | hmm shouldn't be that odd | 01:29 |
| Fudge | agreed | 01:30 |
| Fudge | im burning now, i have another machine i can try it on, i had not tried that before | 01:30 |
| penguin42 | but for me, time for bed | 01:36 |
| Fudge | night mate | 01:42 |
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| cliffybx | bulldog98 | 03:04 |
| cliffybx | hello | 03:04 |
| cliffybx | anybody here | 03:04 |
| Resistance | cliffybx: probably, but patience is recommended ;P | 03:04 |
| Resistance | just because this channel doesnt seem active doesnt mean people arent checking it periodically :P | 03:05 |
| cliffybx | =) ok2.. | 03:05 |
| cliffybx | i understand=) | 03:05 |
| cliffybx | Resistance > do u use ubuntu | 03:06 |
| Daekdroom | If you're trying to ask a question, go ahead. | 03:08 |
| Resistance | cliffybx: yes i do, Ubuntu 11.04 with KDE interface ;P but if you have a question ask away :P | 03:08 |
| Resistance | if you just want to chat, try #ubuntu-offtopic or #defocus :) | 03:09 |
| cliffybx | i use ubuntu 11.10 ..but it has problem with bluetooth..how to fix it? | 03:09 |
| Resistance | cliffybx: ask #ubuntu | 03:09 |
| Resistance | 11.10 isnt the ubuntu+1 release anymore :P | 03:10 |
| cliffybx | ask #ubuntu | 03:10 |
| cliffybx | join # ubuntu | 03:10 |
| Resistance | cliffybx: /join #ubuntu | 03:10 |
| Resistance | without the space before the / | 03:10 |
| cliffybx | join#ubuntu | 03:11 |
| Resistance | ... | 03:11 |
| Resistance | cliffybx: "/join #ubuntu" | 03:11 |
| Resistance | everything within the quotes, just like i typed it | 03:11 |
| cliffybx | join/#ubuntu | 03:11 |
| Resistance | just without the quotes | 03:11 |
| Resistance | holy god... | 03:11 |
| * Resistance walks away | 03:11 | |
| Resistance | not due to you, due to power issues... | 03:11 |
| Resistance | ugh, 3rd time today that breaker's tripped... | 03:12 |
| Resistance | cliffybx: the / comes at the beginning of the entire statement. | 03:12 |
| Resistance | also, there's a space between join and #ubuntu | 03:12 |
| Daekdroom | Resistance, he's joined #ubuntu already | 03:12 |
| tnk1 | anyone know a good torrent channel around here? | 03:12 |
| Resistance | Daekdroom: lagginess :P | 03:12 |
| Resistance | Daekdroom: courtesy of the fact my power's tripped three times today | 03:12 |
| Resistance | :P | 03:12 |
| Resistance | tnk1: "torrent channel"? | 03:13 |
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| bjsnider | Resistance, he was pushing your buttons | 03:17 |
| Resistance | *shrugs* | 03:17 |
| bjsnider | he joined +1 but had no idea how to join any other channel | 03:17 |
| tnk1 | i was just wondering - 'cause seems isohunt is censored these days | 03:19 |
| Resistance | tnk1: well torrent discussion isnt on topic for the ubuntu channels, and im' not sure whether you'll find any torrents discussion channel on freenode | 03:20 |
| Resistance | tnk1: and they started censoring when the feds went after em a few years ago :P | 03:20 |
| Resistance | (in the US) | 03:20 |
| tnk1 | hm. ok, better question.. anyone know how to use firefox with vidalia in the new ubuntu 11.10, which i updated to? | 03:23 |
| tnk1 | apparently the vidalia icon in the status bar disappeared | 03:23 |
| micahg | tnk1: try View -> toolbars -> addon bar | 03:24 |
| micahg | tnk1: and 11.10 support is in #ubuntu | 03:24 |
| tnk1 | micahg, i tried.. no go | 03:25 |
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| penguin42 | yofel: Morning Yofel - do you use multiple tabs on konsole? If so have you found that the ctrl-ageup/down has stopped working to switch? | 12:38 |
| yofel | usually I use yakuake+byobu, but in Konsole I can switch tabs with shift+left/right here | 12:39 |
| penguin42 | hmm yes, that does work | 12:40 |
| penguin42 | I wonder - was it a config I'd changed to make it match gnome-terminal that's disappeared? | 12:40 |
| penguin42 | right, well added as alternate keystroke - heck I like that system | 12:42 |
| yofel | ^^ | 12:45 |
| yofel | not sure if that changed, in yakuake shift+left/right has been the shortcut since ever, but I would assume the same thing to be true for konsole | 12:45 |
| penguin42 | nod; I suspect sometime in the past I added as an alternate and it lost it in the last few days for some reason | 12:47 |
| bjsnider | !find /usr/lib/libltdl.la | 14:37 |
| ubottu | File /usr/lib/libltdl.la found in libltdl-dev | 14:37 |
| Ian_Corne | hehe | 14:40 |
| samorian | any idea if the disk image for 12.04 is ever going to be shrunk down to be able to fit on a regular cd? | 15:08 |
| Ian_Corne | it should not | 15:09 |
| samorian | so it there is no plan to shrink it down? | 15:09 |
| Ian_Corne | no | 15:19 |
| samorian | that is too bad.. | 15:20 |
| Daekdroom | !daily | 16:34 |
| ubottu | Daily builds of the CD images of the current development version of Ubuntu are available at http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily/current/ and http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/ | 16:34 |
| iceroot | i dont see a reason to use cds anymore, isos and usb-sticks are fine | 17:41 |
| iceroot | also the minimal image does fit very well on a cd | 17:41 |
| penguin42 | iceroot: Occasionally find a machine that won't USB boot | 17:41 |
| iceroot | penguin42: its harder to find a machine with cd-drive :) | 17:41 |
| * penguin42 does have a couple still | 17:42 | |
| iceroot | all my netbooks and intel atom movie-pcs dont have a cd-drive :) but i see what you mean | 17:42 |
| iceroot | but because the minimal/alternate are fitting well on a cd i dont see a reason to shrink down the normal iso | 17:42 |
| penguin42 | yeh if minimal/alternate are there that's fine | 17:43 |
| iceroot | time to put vim and gimp back in a normal installation :) | 17:43 |
| penguin42 | isn't vim in default?!!!! | 17:43 |
| iceroot | and aptitude | 17:43 |
| iceroot | no | 17:43 |
| iceroot | just vim.tiny which is vi | 17:43 |
| penguin42 | meh, that's fine - real men don't need modern comforts like arrow keys | 17:43 |
| iceroot | ..... | 17:44 |
| iceroot | arent there more differences then just the keyboard-thing? | 17:44 |
| iceroot | There are a lot of enhancements above Vi: multi level undo, multi windows and buffers, syn‐ | 17:45 |
| iceroot | tax highlighting, command line editing, filename completion, on-line help, visual selection, | 17:45 |
| iceroot | etc.. See ":help vi_diff.txt" for a summary of the differences between Vim and Vi. | 17:45 |
| iceroot | buffers are a must-have | 17:45 |
| iceroot | synhighlight of course too :) | 17:45 |
| penguin42 | iceroot: Nod, it's just I started on vi ~23 years ago on a bad serial terminal, so while I like a bit of syntax highlighting, I've never really got used to the other vim features | 17:47 |
| iceroot | penguin42: even not visual-mode? | 17:47 |
| penguin42 | haha, no I said vi not ex! | 17:48 |
| penguin42 | although I can almost cope in open mode | 17:48 |
| iceroot | imo visual-mode = copy&paste | 17:48 |
| penguin42 | oh, visual mode - sorry, I thought you meant something else | 17:49 |
| penguin42 | no, never used that | 17:49 |
| iceroot | hm, ok | 17:49 |
| penguin42 | iceroot: I know all the place marks with ` and fast forward backward searches with FfTt and can do most yanks that wa | 17:49 |
| penguin42 | y | 17:49 |
| penguin42 | iceroot: To be fair I should learn them | 17:50 |
| iceroot | penguin42: i like "vimtutor" very much | 17:50 |
| iceroot | but its teaching the vi-controls instead of the vim-controls | 17:50 |
| iceroot | but its a nice interactive manpage | 17:50 |
| penguin42 | I just know as soon as I get into it someone will ask me to use an old box again | 17:51 |
| iceroot | :) | 17:51 |
| iceroot | luckily i dont have to fight with tty-systems | 17:51 |
| iceroot | always ssh or lxterminal directly | 17:51 |
| iceroot | and the first command is always "sudo apt-get install zsh vim" to have a usable system | 17:52 |
| Ian_Corne | vim for me | 17:53 |
| Ian_Corne | noy zsh | 17:53 |
| iceroot | /flamemode its said that you have to install 3 additional packages on ubuntu to have a good system vim,zsh and lubuntu-desktop | 17:53 |
| iceroot | sad | 17:54 |
| jtaylor | vim will be on the dvd now | 17:55 |
| iceroot | Ian_Corne: have a look at zsh, it has very nice features for a interactive-shell. tab is your very best friend | 17:55 |
| Ian_Corne | tried it | 17:55 |
| iceroot | jtaylor: any plans to put it on the regular cd too? | 17:55 |
| iceroot | the same for gimp | 17:55 |
| jtaylor | vim-tiny maybe but not all | 17:55 |
| Ian_Corne | and i'm used to unity+compiz now | 17:55 |
| iceroot | jtaylor: yeah that is the default now and vim.tiny == vi | 17:55 |
| jtaylor | isn't vim tiny vim without all the extras like source highlight and colorschemes? | 17:56 |
| iceroot | jtaylor: which is vi | 17:56 |
| iceroot | jtaylor: vim.tiny = controls without arrows | 17:56 |
| iceroot | imo vim.tiny is an alias for vi | 17:57 |
| iceroot | or symlink | 17:57 |
| jtaylor | I saw no plans to add regular vim to cd | 17:57 |
| iceroot | jtaylor: put the plan is to shrink it down to 700mb? | 17:57 |
| iceroot | if not i dont see a reason to not put vim as default | 17:58 |
| jtaylor | no idea, but vim is quite large | 17:59 |
| penguin42 | and I think it has quite a few dependencies | 17:59 |
| iceroot | the same as vim.tiny i guess | 17:59 |
| iceroot | ah ok there are more | 18:00 |
| iceroot | vim-syntax-go - Syntax files to highlight Go in the Vim editor | 18:00 |
| iceroot | vim-addon-manager - manager of addons for the Vim editor | 18:00 |
| jtaylor | 8mb vs 500kb | 18:00 |
| iceroot | jtaylor: that is not a big deal | 18:00 |
| jtaylor | thats significant | 18:00 |
| iceroot | if the size doesnt matter | 18:00 |
| iceroot | on the iso | 18:00 |
| jtaylor | its still limited to 750mb | 18:00 |
| iceroot | 750? | 18:01 |
| jtaylor | the dvd is larger and that gets vim | 18:01 |
| penguin42 | 8mb?! For vi! | 18:01 |
| iceroot | penguin42: vim! :) | 18:01 |
| penguin42 | heck, if we're not careful it'll outgrow emacs | 18:01 |
| iceroot | emacs needs 30MB just to save all the shortcuts... | 18:03 |
| FernandoMiguel | good evening | 19:50 |
| FernandoMiguel | unity panel seems to be crashing here | 19:50 |
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| airtonix | man i love gedit | 21:13 |
| bjsnider | gedit loves you too | 21:22 |
| FernandoMiguel | also, Joe | 21:23 |
| Ian_Corne | i'm more for geany airtonix | 21:51 |
| Fudge | penguin42 hey | 23:17 |
| Fudge | yesterday as we talked about i booted that amd64 alpha 1 on another pc here and it worked fine, still have not tried on this one yet again since had no eyes, but appears it may just be me :D | 23:19 |
| penguin42 | hi Fudge | 23:46 |
| penguin42 | Fudge: It's never just you - it might be something about your PC, someone else is bound to hit it | 23:47 |
| Fudge | I will stay on it then penguin42 | 23:48 |
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