=== EvilJackyAlcine is now known as JackyAlcine === Guest5129 is now known as IAmNotThatGuy === amithkk is now known as themostrandomnam === themostrandomnam is now known as empower_host === empower_host is now known as amithkk [11:25] Good afternoon everyone, here's an interesting one. I've installed gdebi, but in the properties of a .deb I can't select it (let alone make it the default action). Does anybody know if this is a known issue, is it solved in Precise or should there be a bug made? And if so, where? [11:27] can you repost it MrChrisDruif [11:27] = [11:27] ? [11:27] Good afternoon everyone, here's an interesting one. I've installed gdebi, but in the properties of a .deb I can't select it (let alone make it the default action). Does anybody know if this is a known issue, is it solved in Precise or should there be a bug made? And if so, where? [11:28] MrChrisDruif : no idea :D [11:28] ashickur-noor; any experience with gdebi in Oneiric by any chance? [11:28] Thought so Silverlion [11:29] [12:22] Silverlion: ok need help making a decision: shall i go a fourth time to try and install lubuntu or shall i directly install mint which i know works for my hardware? [11:31] Silverlion; did you try that install without getting updates during install? [11:31] MrChrisDruif : i am just looking for that iso i made yesterday and trying it [11:31] but therefore i need to re-arrange my internet connection. be back soon === yofel_ is now known as yofel [15:51] how do I run applications that I downloaded from synaptic, but don,t show up in the menus [15:51] don't [15:51] falcon_: you can type the command in the terminal, or hit ALT+F2 and type it in there [15:52] what command do I need to type [15:52] falcon_: whatever command launches whatever application you installed [15:52] I was typing 'run ' [15:53] falcon_: yup... in that command, "run" is the issue [15:53] how do I find the command that launches apps [15:53] if i want to run nano for example, i open the terminal and type "nano" [15:53] roger [15:54] falcon_: its usually the name... you'll need to elaborate for me to help you... it could literally be *any* application [15:54] I think you just answered that one for me [15:54] next, how do I put these into a menu [15:55] i see you are running lxde.. http://wiki.lxde.org/en/LXDE:Questions#How_do_I_add_custom_sub-menu_and.2For_launcher_to_LXDE.27s_main_menu.3F [15:56] theres a nice application i use called kupfer... you hit control+space and then you start typing the applicaion name, and it predicts and lets you launch... though, its not limited to applications [15:58] also trying to get webcam use in pidgin [15:58] does the end user need to be in pidgen to see my webcam?? [15:59] falcon_: you can run lspci or lsusb depending on what type camera you are inquiring about... see if you see it in the list... i suggest looking at something like cheese that will 'just work' with the camera, to make sure its configured properly, then go on to configuring applications to use the camera [16:00] falcon_: i dont ue pidgin, but i would assume the best performance would be pidgin to pigin, though i had read there were plugins for other support [16:00] I have gucview my webcam works fine [16:01] falcon_: cool.. so the hardware/software works fine... its just a matter of learning how to use pidgin [16:01] in pidgin the webcam option does not light up [16:02] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Pidgin [16:03] thanx [16:08] falcon_: you can also use the command 'which' to find the command to run a program [16:09] for example: which nano [16:09] returns: /usr/bin/nano [16:10] so to run nano you can use the command: /usr/bin/nano [16:10] I downloaded freedict dictionaries but there seems to be no app to use them [16:10] or just nano because it automaagically looks in /usr/bin/ [16:12] also wanted to use stardict-tools from stardict app can I do that? [16:12] I did download it from synaptic [16:12] or is it just a command line app [16:15] did anyone get sagemath to run on ubuntu. I couldn't using their directions [16:15] gnome-dictionary [16:15] falcon_: do you find your answers here ? http://code.google.com/p/stardict-3/ [16:15] i think that might be the package you are looking for [16:16] yes i think holstein might be on to something :) i was just looking at this http://linuxers.org/article/stardict-great-dictionary-program [16:16] how come synaptic doesn't put that in the download? [16:16] and to use offline. http://linuxers.org/howto/how-make-gnome-dictionary-work-offline === samsul is now known as samsul|logout|lo === samsul|logout|lo is now known as samsul [18:08] anyone available for super noobish installation questions? [18:09] gnarr: ask your question, if someone is available with an answer they'll respond [18:11] trying to install dual boot with windows 7. on the documentation it shows 3 options on the graphical interface: install over win7, side by side, or something else. on my screen it only shows install over and 'something else' [18:12] choose something else [18:12] having never done this before, i'm kinda not keen on going past something else without understaning what i'm doing [18:12] then create->select partitions manually and install [18:12] yeah it shows what appears to be 4 partitions [18:12] and no empty space [18:12] do you already had the empty space? [18:13] gnarr in a terminal, type sudo fdisk -l|pastebinit and paste the url here [18:13] it shows sda1 thru 4, with various space allocated to each. [18:14] can you walk me through how to do that [18:14] as i said, super noobish [18:14] gnarr, press ctrl alt T it will open terminal [18:14] then type that command [18:14] ok [18:14] wait do not type copy paste [18:14] is pastebinit now a default app? [18:15] stlsaint, i think so [18:15] evidently not, it's not installed. hold on [18:15] ok [18:15] yea i didn't think so... [18:16] hrm, followed the instructions to intall and got error from that - unable to locate package pastebinit [18:16] stlsaint, :-) [18:16] apt-get that sucker [18:16] gnarr, sudo apt-get install pastebinit [18:16] what distro is this and what sources are enBLED [18:16] enabled [18:17] this is 11.10 [18:17] not sure how to determine sources? [18:17] abhijit: that gives me an error [18:17] reading pacakge lists.... Done, Building dependency tree, Reading state infomration... Done, E: Unable to locate package pastebinit [18:18] MonkeyDust, will the screenshot of gparted for that desk will do? [18:19] disk* [18:19] yes [18:19] hey wait what are we needing pastebinit for again? harddrive layout? [18:20] gnarr, open gparted. in there select your target hdd if its not selected already in top right corner take screenshot of that windows and use imagebin website to uplaod it and give us the url [18:20] stlsaint, yep as suggested by MonkeyDust [18:20] better yet... [18:20] off to dinner. [18:20] only root may run fparted [18:21] gparted [18:21] makin screenshot, hold [18:22] gnarr: do you know what that means? only root may run gparted? [18:23] not entirely. [18:23] you need proper permission to run that application... its not trivial, and running that as root *will* allow you to do some damage, so feel free and aks *before* you click [18:23] right [18:24] i'm asking because i'm trying to avoid damage :) [18:24] http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/696/screenshotat20111226182.png/ [18:24] that is where i'm at the installtion [18:24] gnarr: thats an excellent policy :) [18:24] and where i'm not really sure how to proceed from [18:24] most of the time we get the questions after the damage :/ [18:25] gnarr during installation, choose a non-used partition and format it to ext4 [18:26] gnarr: i like to suggest folks at least glance at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2 [18:26] partitioning is the trickiest part [18:26] and think about how to revert... if you remove ubuntu, whats not going to be the same anymore [18:26] i suppose i should explain why i'm trying to do all this [18:26] soooooooo [18:27] you would need to use a windows CD to give you the windows boot loader back [18:27] pretty sure the registry on win7 is fucko. I can't boot windows from a recovery cd, safe mode, anything. [18:27] i say, as long as your data is backed up, and you konw how to revert, and you've check the system with a live CD, go for it [18:27] but i can boot it from an ubuntu cd [18:27] so [18:28] was thinking i could do side-by-side and then see if i can recover the registry [18:28] rather than full win7 install [18:28] ? [18:28] gnarr: installing ubuntu beside a borked windows wont do anything [18:28] gnarr: language please [18:32] and ubuntu will not touch windiws [18:33] windows [18:34] gnarr: you dont want to reinstall windows *after* installing ubuntu... thats not trivial either, and you'll end up with either windows wiping ubuntu, or, best case scenario, ubuntu just not booting... theres a 'how-to' at that link i linked earlier relating to grub2 [18:35] holstein: why would we want to give the windows bootloader back? why not using grub2? [18:35] stlsaint: just to get back to the current 'as-is' state... its just a change i like to alert new users to [18:36] yeah reading a bunch of stuff right now. baby steps and whatnot. just trying to figure out how to recover the registry or whatever is prevent win from booting even in safe mode, going down various paths i've found via google [18:36] gnarr: back up your data... reinstall windows... install ubuntu beside it [18:37] Ubuntu would not be the best resource to fix a windows install thats not booting [18:37] ^^ yeah, and theres no need to install ubuntu to do that... you can run it live and do all the fixing [18:38] then how would i go about fixing via live run? [18:39] i guess the fixing part is where i'm lost. [18:40] probably gonna just have to reinstall [18:40] gnarr: yup, and you'll need to explore a windows support avenue for that... personally, i just reinstall windows... i find it much easier to just backup my data, and reinstal, and set it up properly from the beginning with backups and proper recovery steps [18:40] not a huge issue, just inconvenience, i lack a reinstall disc [18:41] thats also a great time to backup the data, and try transitioning to linux full time, or to the latest release of windows [18:41] gnarr: you may want to consider backing up data, then replacing windows with ubuntu, then restoring [18:41] i find it very benificial to run windows vitualized inside of linux.. [18:42] depends on what you 'need' windows for [18:42] data is backed up already. if i replace windows with ubuntu, how (and what exactly) would i restore [18:42] gnarr: the data?... i just drag it over [18:42] i would HIGHLY suggest that you do not transition fully to linux just yet [18:43] yeah, but i also would suggest buring up a lot of time reinstalling and configuring a 10 year old operating system... i would consider purchasing windows 7 [18:43] unless you know right now that you do not need windows for absolutely anything [18:43] hm [18:43] * holstein assumes you are on windows XP [18:45] i was able to erase windows because i do not game nor use MS office so no need for windows [18:45] yeah, i migrated slowly [18:46] i had my audio recording machine running windows for almost 2 years after i started migrating [18:47] i use ms office on XP in virtual box [18:47] that'll do, but the gaming... not so much [18:47] so [18:47] uh nm. [18:48] gonna go get some more brawndo [18:49] gnarr: when you return please download and run following script: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/41703043/boot_info_script060/boot_info_script.sh [18:53] what does that do [18:53] good that you asked ;) [18:53] provides a layout of your hardware for troubleshooting [18:53] feel free to take a view of the script [18:54] nothing to hide and it is widely used across the ubuntu forums community [18:54] gnarr: its going to output a RESUTLS.txt file. Copy the data of that file into pastebin site and send link here or private message [19:00] as far as i can tell, this is where i'm at and where i can proceed. win7 doesn't boot in any mode. i can boot with ubuntu to backup data (already done). I can't use ubuntu to do any diagnostics/recovery/fixing of the win7 registry or whatever else might be causing the boot failure. [19:00] is that a logical conclusion? [19:01] pretty much [19:02] bummer. [19:04] yep [19:06] no worries. [19:07] guess i'll go the win7 reinstall route, i have backups, just no install disc (thx samsung) [19:07] thanks for the assistance though [19:07] i haz teh learning [19:10] gnarr: do you get an error message when trying to boot windows? [19:12] yeah i get an option to boot recovery mode or normal. normal gets a blue screen and then restarts, recovery mode doesn't progress past the initial recovery screen, though i did get it to go to the 'keyboard layout select' screen when i booted with a recovery disc, but that's as far as it goes. [19:14] s/recovery/Startup Repair [19:16] gnarr: can you boot in safe mode? have you considered using your ubuntu cd to scan for viruses? [19:18] so far I haven't been able to boot in safe mode of any sort (networking, command prompt, etc) I haven't considered virus scan - it'd be pretty surprised if that was the issue, I had active antivirus, but anything's possible [19:20] gnarr, have yo runn a chkdsk /r on the windows initiated from a recovery disc? [19:20] you* [19:22] i can't 'initiate' windows at all, not sure how i can do your suggestion? [19:22] basically i can only get to bios and the f8 menu, but none of those function [19:22] can only boot w/ ubuntu [19:22] am about to just nuke it and reinstall win7 [19:23] or try this [19:23] http://www.arsgeek.com/2008/01/15/how-to-fix-your-windows-mbr-with-an-ubuntu-livecd/ [19:25] gnarr, I wouldn't use that you can use another bootloader called lilo to boot windows straight. You didn't make a recovery cd? [19:26] lilo is available using a live ubuntu cd. gnarr [19:27] i have a recovery cd, it won't do anything for me [19:27] does nothing after asking me what keyboard configuration i have [19:27] gnarr, the recovery will get you to a recovery terminal to run a chkdsk. [19:27] see above. [19:27] gnarr, disc is broke? [19:28] what is supposed to happen when i boot from a recovery disc? computer came with recovery partition, both have same result, except booting from the disc progresses to the keyboard layout question before doing nothing, partition just does nothing [19:28] gnarr, the bootscript was mentioned have you run it? This script gives a very good wha is where that will show problems a geeks best tool in this situation. [19:29] hold on, booting up w/ ubuntu [19:29] again [19:29] downloaded the script, will run it on boot [19:30] gnarr, the recovery disc after the language pick you hey r for repair and load images repair or use a terminal to run commands [19:30] The hangup after the keyboard selection during installation is a know issue. [19:30] hey=hit [19:30] LemonAid, links? [19:31] LemonAid, I'm hesitant to just believe a comment [19:31] LemonAid: and for what distro are you referring? [19:31] urlin2u: also why was lilo recommended? [19:31] urlin2u, 11.04 hold on. [19:32] stlsaint, they want to reload a MS boot lilo boot windows straight like the MS boot was in the mbr, [19:32] ok [19:33] urlin2u, http://tinyurl.com/c3ejzzk [19:34] LemonAid, read back it is a windows recovery disc. [19:36] the script .sh file - how do i run that exacty? [19:36] urlin2u, my bad. [19:36] LemonAid easy mistake, :D [19:37] gnarr, double click on it, select run from the pop up dialogue. [19:37] gnarr, you`re in ubuntu, right? [19:37] gnarr: in terminal run: chmod +x ...name of script.sh [19:37] term ok [19:37] gnarr, exstract the bootscript to the desktop and run this command from the bootscript page sudo bash ~/Desktop/boot_info_script.sh [19:38] LemonAid, right now yeah> [19:38] urlin2u: the link i sent has the script un-compressed. No need to extract anything [19:38] stlsaint, I noticed the chmod I came on after you posted the link. [19:40] ok [19:40] running [19:41] dealing w/ external distractions, sorry about delay [19:41] gnarr: remember paste the output to pastebin site. not directly here [19:41] pastebin was not working right before [19:41] gnarr: no you was using the pastebin application "pastebinit" [19:42] or trying to use... [19:42] stlsaint, I'm going for coffee carry on. :D [19:42] gnarr: use this for paste: http://paste.debian.net/ [19:44] http://www.arsgeek.com/2008/01/15/how-to-fix-your-windows-mbr-with-an-ubuntu-livecd/ [19:44] oops [19:44] imean [19:44] paste.debian.net/150223 [19:46] gnarr: thought you said you had no recovery? [19:46] recovery partition? [19:46] gnarr: you said your data is already backed up and i see you have a recovery partition [19:46] yes [19:46] yeah there's a recovery partition in lieu of a disc, but i can't boot from anything [19:47] you need no mbr disk nor ubuntu cd to fix your system. You boot from the recovery [19:48] right...except it won't load past a certain point [19:48] the recovery? [19:49] when i boot i get an option that says start in repair mode or normal. repair mode will load up to a blue wallpaper screen and then do nothing ( i let it sit there overnight). I've tried booting from a recovery cd as well, and the only difference is that it get prompted to input a keyboard layout type before it does nothing. [19:50] your recovery is still shown as hidden. Are you sure you was booting recovery and not a restore point? [19:51] i don't really know how to tell. i have a lot more options on the f8 boot menu (last working startup, debug mode, safe mode w/ networking, safe mode w/ command prompt) but i can't get functionality from those either [19:54] gnarr: did you try opening task manager when booted up to blue wallpaper screen? [19:55] i think i did, but i can try again real quick [19:55] lol i thought you were getting a BSOD [19:56] gnarr: yea those are not your options needed for recovery. The partition is hidden. You must use a boot disk or even gparted to select that partition and unhide it [19:56] i do when i try normal startup [19:56] gparted? [19:57] gnarr: its on the ubuntu live disc there [19:57] hrmhrmhrm. [19:57] ok [19:57] trying the task manager route, then will reboot ubuntu [20:03] bsod comes with normal boot - too quick for me to read anything. recovery boot prompts for keyboard layout, then does nothing. i see blue wallpaper a bird and a mouse pointer that i can control, but nothing progresses past this point. ctrl-alt-del does nothing [20:03] so i guess i'll boot up ubuntu again and play w/ gparted? [20:11] since no one else is answering, i think what stlsaint was wanting was for you to use gparted to set your recovery partition as active so that it would boot into it [20:11] you may want to wait for him to come back, however [20:12] yeah [20:12] i've found similar suggestions in various forums [20:13] booting ubuntu currently [20:14] sunyata: yes that is correct [20:16] i personally find linux to be great for games, but i play old school stuff [20:22] hm [20:23] there are no active flags on the recovery partition [20:23] should i set one? [20:25] if you want to keep using windows lol [20:25] yah but which [20:25] boot diag hidden lba lvm palo prep raid [20:25] * sunyata cries [20:26] i dunno, i'll guess boot, you can wait to see if someone else responds [20:27] in no hurry [20:31] sorry what did i miss [20:31] i'm in gparted [20:31] there are no flags on my recovery partition [20:31] should i set one? [20:34] stlsaint, should i set a specific flag (boot?) on the recovery partition? there are no flags on it currently. [20:46] does ubuntu have an included partition imager? [20:52] i've used gparted to create and delete partitions before gnarr [20:52] as well as fdisk [20:53] concerned about fallout if i set recovery to boot [20:54] just use gparted again to unset [20:54] ah yeah. [20:55] meh [20:56] okay then, let's try booting win7 again [20:58] boots to the samsung recovery solution 4 screen (guess what I have a samsung laptop) and says Please wait... [20:58] fairly sure this is what it was doing before, and i 'please wait'ed like 7 hrs [20:59] but i'll let it sit i guess [21:01] right, samsung, korean i believe [21:02] gnarr: and the ubuntu livecd you're using works fine? [21:02] yes can boot from that no issue [21:02] maybe samsung should just preload ubuntu on their computers :) [21:08] . [21:18] ok still nothing after 20 mins [21:18] just stuck at the samsung recovery screen [21:24] looks like a fresh OS install is your only option at this point [21:24] gnarr: unless you have other ideas [21:25] hm where can i get an install disk from [21:37] you mean a windows install disk? you're on your own there gnarr [21:38] i was going to suggest you could call samsung support gnarr [21:40] http://www.mydigitallife.info/download-windows-7-iso-official-32-bit-and-64-bit-direct-download-links/ [21:40] what is that? [21:41] might i be able to resintall from that if i have a valid key? [21:47] gnarr, you need a oem disc for a oem reinstall. [21:48] so what is at that link? not really sure what 'oem' is [21:48] gnarr, if you have a key for the official I would install it no firmware from samsung. A oem is samsungs version. [21:49] oem stands for "origial equipment manufacturer", so a disc that comes from the manufacturer [21:49] gnarr, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OEM [21:49] * JackyAlcine thinks we need to add that term to ubot2` [21:50] hm [21:50] !oem [21:50] Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall - Don't want to use a CD? See http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate [21:50] laptop just came w/ recover partition [21:50] so [21:50] guess it's to the telephone. Anyong. [21:56] there may be isos out there, but i'm not sure about the legalities so i don't want to recommend anything to you gnarr [21:57] yeah not looking for anything of that sort. i live in asia, i can walk down the street and score pirated windows. I have a legit copy, jsut trying to reinstall it without having a disc [21:58] gnarr, you nust need a key that will go with the install, with oem's it is automatic, your best bet is to get the oem disc set for reinstalling from samsung. [21:59] gonna call them in a sec [21:59] gnarr, or just buy a retail release you will loose the samsung junk that way and have a better setup. [22:00] not a desirable option [22:00] might as well just buy brand new laptop [22:00] :| [22:01] gnarr, a retail release is actually better you get more and no firmware, no problems like you have right now. You can image it, which you can with a oem, but yiou have a disc for reinstall. [22:01] good for economy [22:02] gnarr, that retail release can be put on any computer the oem can't. [22:04] hm $120 [22:04] thought it would be more