| zastaph | Maybe https://help.ubuntu.com/community/KVM/Networking needs to be updated .. because the CAP_NET_ADMIN section refers to Sep 2006 | 00:11 |
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| sw0rdfish | hey | 00:58 |
| pmatulis | zastaph: please proceed | 00:58 |
| zastaph | I'm just a user of KVM | 00:59 |
| njacinto | quit | 00:59 |
| qman__ | that's where ubuntu community docs come from, users | 01:04 |
| zastaph | yep and then I'm a kvm n00b too :) | 01:05 |
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| deviantgeek | Ok, is there any guides to getting ftp working on oneric? | 03:34 |
| TJRana | Um... | 03:35 |
| TJRana | What's oneric? | 03:35 |
| deviantgeek | 11.10 | 03:35 |
| deviantgeek | ubuntu server | 03:35 |
| TJRana | Oh Ubuntu 11.10 Oneiric Ocelot | 03:36 |
| deviantgeek | yeah | 03:36 |
| TJRana | These names… geez | 03:36 |
| TJRana | I'm no expert, but I managed to set up ftp for my server, which I then got rid of and had to start all over. | 03:37 |
| TJRana | I'll try to help. | 03:37 |
| TJRana | I don't think there's a guide, but do you use a program to access your server? Like Dreamweaver or something? | 03:37 |
| deviantgeek | well, its currently running on ESXi (virtulization) | 03:38 |
| qman__ | FTP should never be used | 03:38 |
| deviantgeek | if that matters | 03:38 |
| qman__ | SFTP is superior in all ways | 03:38 |
| deviantgeek | qman__: then how do I get sftp working | 03:38 |
| deviantgeek | does it come with openssh? | 03:38 |
| qman__ | apt-get install openssh-server | 03:38 |
| qman__ | the default sshd configuration allows all users standard SFTP access to anywhere on the system they have permission | 03:39 |
| TJRana | yeah, go and log onto your server | 03:39 |
| TJRana | type in "sudo apt-get install openssh-server" | 03:39 |
| qman__ | if you need more control, you can configure chroots in the config | 03:39 |
| TJRana | what qman__ said | 03:39 |
| deviantgeek | what is the default sftp port? | 03:41 |
| qman__ | 22 | 03:41 |
| patdk-lap | it' basically kindof ftp tunneled over ssh | 03:41 |
| qman__ | it's actually nothing like FTP on a technical level | 03:41 |
| patdk-lap | ya | 03:41 |
| qman__ | the command syntax and general purpose are the only similarities | 03:41 |
| patdk-lap | but only way to explain it easily | 03:41 |
| patdk-lap | it's unlike scp though, that works at the command/shell level | 03:42 |
| qman__ | and for good reason, FTP is, was, and always will be a stupid protocol | 03:42 |
| deviantgeek | I currently am using root to login to the SSH, I need full filesystem access though, any way I can do that without root? | 03:43 |
| deviantgeek | *make ssh sftp | 03:43 |
| qman__ | why do you need full access? | 03:43 |
| qman__ | it's much easier to solve that problem than safely allow full access | 03:44 |
| deviantgeek | well, so I can edit every aspect of the server from sftp | 03:44 |
| qman__ | use ssh for that | 03:44 |
| deviantgeek | ok | 03:44 |
| qman__ | shell in, do your editing directly on the server | 03:44 |
| qman__ | SFTP is for transferring files | 03:44 |
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| deviantgeek | qman__: ok | 03:45 |
| deviantgeek | what about getting xfce installed? | 03:45 |
| qman__ | don't know why you'd want to do that | 03:46 |
| qman__ | but you'd do it with apt-get | 03:46 |
| deviantgeek | (just makes moving files around easier, I dislike doing everything through ssh) | 03:46 |
| qman__ | just FYI, as a general rule GUIs and the associated packages aren't supported in this channel, since this is the server channel | 03:47 |
| TJRana | deviantgeek, so you want some type of GUI instead of looking at lines of code? | 03:47 |
| qman__ | you'll get more help on that subject in the desktop channels | 03:47 |
| deviantgeek | well, I do use ssh, but if I need to move lots of files, the gui helps | 03:47 |
| deviantgeek | (Probably because I need to learn more linux commands) | 03:47 |
| qman__ | this | 03:48 |
| patdk-lap | heh, I normally drop to a shell to move files around | 03:48 |
| TJRana | deviantgeek, not when you have some type of FTP or SFTP and a program | 03:48 |
| patdk-lap | gui is so ugly at it | 03:48 |
| qman__ | same | 03:48 |
| qman__ | file operations are easier from the shell | 03:48 |
| deviantgeek | sftp works too. | 03:48 |
| deviantgeek | qman__: I download everything from shell | 03:48 |
| TJRana | deviantgeek, you can use Dreamweaver, and it's great for moving lots of files | 03:48 |
| deviantgeek | wget is awesome | 03:48 |
| qman__ | I do most of my work in the shell, only reason I have a GUI is for easier web browsing and such | 03:48 |
| patdk-lap | I use gui to manage my xterms :) | 03:49 |
| TJRana | deviantgeek, I use Dreamweaver all the time and it's a great and powerful tool | 03:49 |
| deviantgeek | Dreamweaver looks good | 03:49 |
| TJRana | deviantgeek, do you have dreamweaver? | 03:49 |
| deviantgeek | yeah | 03:49 |
| TJRana | deviantgeek, then use it! lol | 03:49 |
| deviantgeek | I use filezilla for all my sftp | 03:49 |
| deviantgeek | too lazy to set up dreamweaver | 03:49 |
| qman__ | I usually use scp | 03:50 |
| patdk-lap | I normally use rsync | 03:50 |
| TJRana | same difference | 03:50 |
| TJRana | it doesn't really matter, you still get the point | 03:51 |
| patdk-lap | unison? | 03:51 |
| TJRana | deviantgeek, what's the point of putting a GUI on the server when you have something like filezilla? | 03:51 |
| qman__ | precisely, GUIs belong on desktops, not servers | 03:51 |
| qman__ | with the exception of LTSP and similar | 03:52 |
| TJRana | yeah, putting a GUI just slows the server down | 03:52 |
| TJRana | uses more memory and whatnot | 03:52 |
| Resistance | anyone able to help me diagnose fcgiwrap / spawn-fcgi when trying to run the apcupsd cgi scripts (for internet monitoring of the apcupsd status data): https://pastebin.com/tBTPSeSg | 03:53 |
| patdk-lap | hmm? cgi isn't fcgi compatable | 03:54 |
| Resistance | patdk-lap: give me a working nginx & cgi setup then | 03:55 |
| patdk-lap | heh? | 03:55 |
| patdk-lap | cgi is so straight forward, there really isn't any setup needed | 03:55 |
| Resistance | patdk-lap: okay, you're no help... | 03:56 |
| Resistance | patdk-lap: nginx has no ootb support for serving CGI content | 03:56 |
| patdk-lap | nope, I don't do nginx | 03:56 |
| Resistance | their examples and their wiki said to use fastcgi / fcgiwrap to serve cgi content | 03:56 |
| Resistance | *grumbles something about downsides to nginx* | 03:56 |
| patdk-lap | well, why not use a webserver that supports what you mean? | 03:56 |
| patdk-lap | I don't get why people attempt to shove square box's though round holes | 03:57 |
| Resistance | system resources are the issue | 03:57 |
| Resistance | apache's too mem-intensive | 03:57 |
| patdk-lap | that is 2, out of atleast 100 webservers | 03:57 |
| Resistance | *yawn* cba to try *all* of them | 03:58 |
| Resistance | *goes back to testing package backports* | 03:58 |
| qman__ | you have to be dealing with a huge volume for that to matter | 03:59 |
| qman__ | I've been using apache for years and never had a problem with its resource usage | 03:59 |
| Resistance | qman__: did i mention this is a 128MB RAM VM? | 04:01 |
| Resistance | :/ | 04:01 |
| patdk-lap | unless you really messup the apache config, it should only need 20megs of ram, or so | 04:01 |
| qman__ | yeah | 04:02 |
| patdk-lap | much more than nginx at 3megs or whatever it is | 04:02 |
| Resistance | there's not even 10 megs available atm :/ | 04:02 |
| Resistance | anyway its not super important, i've got other things to be fixing/testing anyways | 04:02 |
| patdk-lap | I would say, install lighttpd | 04:02 |
| qman__ | personally I'd just get more RAM | 04:04 |
| qman__ | not worth the hassle | 04:05 |
| TJRana | I'm going to leave now. I might be back later. Bye everyone. And Merry Christmas!!!!! | 04:05 |
| qman__ | don't get me wrong, I appreciate efficient software | 04:05 |
| qman__ | but time spent working on it is valuable too | 04:05 |
| patdk-lap | heh | 04:06 |
| patdk-lap | dunno, I've been running lighttpd since 2006 | 04:06 |
| patdk-lap | switch off between it and apache often, depending on needs | 04:06 |
| qman__ | I've just been using apache since forever, and I don't know anything else | 04:07 |
| qman__ | even if it was a couple bucks a month on a hosted VPS, I'd pay it, not worth the time learning a whole new package to solve a problem I already know how to solve | 04:08 |
| patdk-lap | for me, defently a performance issue | 04:08 |
| patdk-lap | atleast one place I switched it too | 04:08 |
| qman__ | on the other hand, if it's a genuine performance problem, it'd be worth looking into | 04:09 |
| patdk-lap | something in apache kept going nuts and using 400mb ram, randomly | 04:09 |
| patdk-lap | but normally unless there is something I specifically need apache for, I use lighttpd instead | 04:09 |
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| TJRana | Hello, now I am stuck setting up ubuntu. I wanted to make a DNS Server so I am using the following website for a step-by-step tutorial: http://www.server-world.info/en/note?os=Ubuntu_11.04&p=dns&f=1 The only problem is I don't know what my global IP address is in brackets. I do know my global IP adress but not the one in brackets. And what is my private IP adress? and what would it look like in brackets? | 07:04 |
| TJRana | Thank you. | 07:04 |
| twb | Are you using 11.04? | 07:04 |
| TJRana | no I'm using 11.10 | 07:04 |
| twb | Then why are you reading documentation for 11.04? | 07:05 |
| TJRana | I had to compromise, and I was hoping the code would be similar so there would be little to no difference | 07:05 |
| twb | Have you tried the 11.10 server guide? | 07:05 |
| TJRana | and there aren't many tutorials out there… the server guide? | 07:05 |
| twb | https://help.ubuntu.com/11.10/serverguide/C/ | 07:06 |
| twb | It's mentioned in the /topic | 07:06 |
| twb | (That's the thing at the top of the screen, that you're supposed to read before commenting) | 07:06 |
| TJRana | oh that… one… | 07:06 |
| TJRana | I'll take another look and see what I can do. | 07:07 |
| twb | Of course if you have read that and are still having problems, then we can talk abut it | 07:07 |
| TJRana | Hi um, I have a question. How do I find the IP Address of my ISP's DNS servers? | 07:22 |
| TJRana | *IP addresses | 07:22 |
| twb | Call your ISP's tech support | 07:22 |
| twb | If you have working internet elsewhere, google for "<ISP name> nameserver" or something | 07:23 |
| TJRana | okay | 07:23 |
| twb | There's no form of in-band discover of nameservers out on the internet | 07:23 |
| twb | (DNSSD/MDNS, but that doesn't normally propagate across routers.) | 07:24 |
| TJRana | okay so I got more information | 07:29 |
| TJRana | ISP : Optimum Online | 07:29 |
| TJRana | Host : ool-44c5ee43.dyn.optonline.net | 07:29 |
| TJRana | That's all I know | 07:29 |
| twb | 18:22 <twb> Call your ISP's tech support | 07:30 |
| TJRana | I have another question | 07:32 |
| TJRana | See on the following page: https://help.ubuntu.com/11.10/serverguide/C/dns-configuration.html it says that | 07:32 |
| TJRana | "The DNS configuration files are stored in the /etc/bind directory. The primary configuration file is /etc/bind/named.conf." | 07:32 |
| TJRana | Now, there are probably changes made to those configuration files… so how do I restore the default files? | 07:33 |
| twb | purge and install the package | 07:34 |
| twb | And learn etckeeper and git so you can avoid that next time | 07:34 |
| TJRana | okay | 07:35 |
| twb | Why do you want a DNS server | 07:36 |
| TJRana | um…….............. | 07:37 |
| TJRana | wait, what does a DNS server do again? | 07:37 |
| twb | Serves a zone to DNS clients. | 07:38 |
| TJRana | um… Okay, so I used to use a free hosting server and I thought it would be more efficient if I had my own server, so I wouldn't have limitations to a bunch of stuff | 07:39 |
| twb | If it's an authoritative nameserver. If it's a caching resolver, then it basically acts as a proxy for name resolution requests between clients and authoritative servers (or other resolvers). | 07:39 |
| twb | Typically a home network will have a caching resolver in the router, and at the ISP, and that will talk to the various authoritative servers out on the internet. | 07:40 |
| TJRana | so I thought maybe I needed to do a bunch of stuff to the server… like NTP, SSH, DNS, DHCP, Virtualization, NFS, NIS, LDAP, WEB, database, FTP, MAIL, Samba, Proxy, Desktop env to the server | 07:40 |
| twb | Unless you own a domain like dick.head.name or example.net, you do not need an authoritative nameserver. | 07:41 |
| TJRana | oh | 07:41 |
| TJRana | so a dns server is unnecessary? | 07:41 |
| twb | A network should have at least one caching resolver, but your ISP typically provides this for you. | 07:41 |
| TJRana | I own a domain. It's tjrana.com | 07:41 |
| TJRana | So since I own a domain, it's necessary? | 07:44 |
| twb | Or you could just pay someone like zoneedit to host it for ou | 07:49 |
| twb | Which for one domain will be $0/mo | 07:49 |
| TJRana | okay I went onto zoneedit.com and signed up | 07:51 |
| TJRana | what do I do next? | 07:53 |
| TJRana | What is a zone name? | 07:55 |
| TJRana | I keep on getting the same error, I got it before. | 08:03 |
| TJRana | http://paste.ubuntu.com/783147/ | 08:04 |
| TJRana | http://pastebin.com/TFSL4tsz | 08:06 |
| TJRana | Hello? | 08:11 |
| TJRana | twb are you there? | 08:11 |
| arooni-mobile | for some reason i'm kinda locked out of my server... i could ssh into before rebooting... now i see: https://gist.github.com/1520745 ... when i try to connect. i didnt change ssh or anything as far as i know | 08:21 |
| lalagirl | is anyone there? | 09:14 |
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| linxeh | Is there a recommended RADIUS server package to use on Ubuntu LTS? Is FreeRADIUS the way to go? | 13:16 |
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| arooni-mobile | hi folks; for some stupid reason i can't ssh into my server; so the server support people gave me access to KVM. how can i use KVM in orerder to recover my server and be able to SSH into it again? running ubuntu 11.10. i have an admin account and a root account but I believe i have disabled root login via ssh | 15:18 |
| raubvogel | arooni-mobile: can you vpn into your server's console? | 15:19 |
| arooni-mobile | raubvogel, this is what i have access to now: http://global.avocent.com/us/olh/dsr/v_3.7.1/global/en/index.html | 15:21 |
| arooni-mobile | not sur eif thats different than kvm | 15:21 |
| raubvogel | Oh | 15:21 |
| raubvogel | so by KVM you mean the switch, not the emulator :) | 15:22 |
| StevenR | arooni-mobile: can you login to the server using the KVM ? | 15:22 |
| arooni-mobile | im not sure how to use the switch software i have now to connect ot the server | 15:23 |
| arooni-mobile | any suggestions? | 15:23 |
| raubvogel | arooni-mobile: Take a look under "The Video Viewer->Launching a KVM Session" | 15:23 |
| raubvogel | In http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/oneiric/man5/nss_ldap.5.html they mention some features require schema mapping support. How to find out if the libnss-ldap package has that? | 15:26 |
| arooni-mobile | hi folks; for some stupid reason i cant ssh to my server: https://gist.github.com/1521495 ... no idea what to do now. | 16:11 |
| SpamapS | arooni-mobile: your key may be in the wrong format, ssh-keygen can convert it | 16:22 |
| SpamapS | arooni-mobile: man ssh-keygen | 16:23 |
| arooni-mobile | SpamapS, key on the side trying to connect? | 16:25 |
| qman__ | you're not supposed to include the ----BEGIN---- -----END---- lines | 16:32 |
| qman__ | but yeah, it could be totally wrong | 16:32 |
| qman__ | take that back, id_rsa does have those | 16:34 |
| qman__ | thinking of authorized_keys, which has a one key per line format | 16:34 |
| raubvogel | arooni-mobile did you try to ssh -vvv and watch the messages? | 16:39 |
| arooni-mobile | i have done that yes | 16:47 |
| arooni-mobile | this is sooo weird | 16:47 |
| arooni-mobile | everything was setup on the server | 16:47 |
| arooni-mobile | and alli did was reboot it to test it | 16:47 |
| arooni-mobile | waiting on a kvm recovery session | 16:47 |
| arooni-mobile | dedicated server support people claim they can ssh with same creds | 16:47 |
| arooni-mobile__ | hi folks; i'm trying to ssh into my server; but when i use the correct username | 17:20 |
| arooni-mobile__ | nothing happens | 17:20 |
| arooni-mobile | re-setting up my ssh config. is there any problem with putting the SSH port at 22222 ? | 17:33 |
| uvirtbot | New bug: #908824 in openvpn (main) "Unable to connect to VPN as a non-admin user" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/908824 | 17:36 |
| uvirtbot | New bug: #908833 in samba (main) "package samba 2:3.5.8~dfsg-1ubuntu2.3 failed to install/upgrade: ErrorMessage: package samba is not ready for configuration cannot configure (current status `half-installed')" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/908833 | 18:16 |
| JoshuaP | How do I keep the SSH MOTD from updating itself? | 19:03 |
| smw | JoshuaP, I think it is a cron job. | 19:04 |
| smw | JoshuaP, it uses /etc/motd.d or something like that, let me check | 19:04 |
| JoshuaP | k | 19:05 |
| smw | /etc/update-motd.d/ controls it | 19:06 |
| smw | you may want to leave it and just change the footer | 19:06 |
| smw | that is what I do | 19:06 |
| JoshuaP | Okay | 19:08 |
| JoshuaP | Does that make the MOTD not update? | 19:10 |
| rbasak | I think /etc/motd is a symlink and if you replace it with a normal file then it won't auto-update. IIRC. I may be wrong. | 19:21 |
| JoshuaP | When I put my own text in there, it earases. | 19:25 |
| rbasak | Have you replaced the symlink with a normal file? | 19:29 |
| JoshuaP | How do I set write permissions of a file to a user? | 19:44 |
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| koolhead17 | hi all | 23:15 |
| Warp4 | hi | 23:17 |
| koolhead17 | supp Warp4 | 23:18 |
| Warp4 | not much | 23:18 |
| Warp4 | just sitting on the channel in case i or anyone else needs help :) | 23:18 |
| koolhead17 | Warp4, great. ^^ | 23:19 |
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