[00:00] <GridCube> whats the problem?
[00:00] <pimperle> after 10 seconds of inactivity, the screen brightness is reduced by two steps
[00:01] <pimperle> theres a setting in xfce4-power-manager-settings which should affect this, but doesnt
[00:01] <GridCube> yes, ive noticed that
[00:01] <GridCube> never bothered me tho
[00:02] <pimperle> i'd like to read text for longer than 10 seconds, that is why i asked
[00:02] <GridCube> i have my setting to never change the brigtness but it changes just a little bit if iddle for some time with battery only
[00:02] <pimperle> moving the mouse every 8 seconds is quite annoying
[00:02] <pimperle> it pretty noticeable here
[00:02] <GridCube> mine never goes sooo bad
[00:03] <pimperle> but this looks like a bug in the power manager, doesn't it?
[00:03] <GridCube> maybe
[00:03] <GridCube> don't know
[00:03] <Fudge> hi anyone used xubuntu precise with orca or know if it will be more accessible?
[00:03] <GridCube> you can chante the percentage of brigtness change on the powermanager
[00:04] <GridCube> Fudge, i know of people who uses orca, but don't use it myself
[00:05] <pimperle> changing the percentage doesn't affect it as well
[00:05] <Fudge> thanks GridCube
[00:05] <pimperle> it just gets darker by the same amount no matter what i choose
[00:05] <GridCube> mmhm
[00:05] <pimperle> however i use the binary ati drivers, if that matters
[00:05] <GridCube> it might
[00:06] <GridCube> doesnt ati has a config manager?
[00:06] <pimperle> i'm not sure, if they interfere with the display brightness, but i killed all other processes tentatively without auccess
[00:06] <pimperle> it has, but the power management only has two options, max power vs max saving
[00:06] <pimperle> and i never had that problem before
[00:07] <GridCube> pimperle, it should have more options on the battery or connected options
[00:12] <pimperle> yes, i changed thos
[00:13] <pimperle> strange enough, it doesn't remember my percentage setting and jumps to 20% whenever i open the dialog
[00:21] <GridCube> mmhm
[00:21] <GridCube> i seethat too
[01:55] <r0lling> Hello?
[01:55] <r0lling> .......... So if anyone is here; here is the situatoin:
[01:58] <r0lling> Installing xubuntu from flash drive. When I have it fully installed I restart and boot up like normal then screen freezes and it shows the damens (I think that is what they called). And all of them have the [OK] execpt for the automatic system error report which failed. It hangs there and forces me to reboot the system and every time I boot It does the same thing. This is the 3rd time I have made a clean flash drive version of Xubun
[01:58] <r0lling> nothing else does
[01:58] <r0lling> any advice other than to google it (which I have)
[01:59] <r0lling> and no results have helped
[04:30] <visitor_1> hi there, somebody know how to disable the poping up sound bar volume? i am runnig cairo dock and it has its own sound bar so i dont want to have two of them lol
[05:03] <holstein> visitor_1: elaborate... take a screenie if it helps
[05:07] <holstein> visitor_1: i was thinking more to the channel at large... you can use http://imagebin.org/
[05:08] <visitor_1> http://imagebin.org/190361
[05:09] <visitor_1> you see on top right the big sound bar which appears when you change the sound volume on the cairo dock
[05:10] <visitor_1> i only want the little sound bar on the cairo dock
[05:10] <holstein> visitor_1: thats going to be notifications
[05:11] <visitor_1> so how can i disable them?
[05:12] <holstein> you can remove the package that displays *all* notifications
[05:12] <visitor_1> hmm have to try that
[05:12] <holstein> you could search and find out what that package is called...
[05:12] <visitor_1> but i also would lose xchat notification i guess
[05:13] <holstein> visitor_1: *all* notifications
[05:13]  * holstein reading http://mail.xfce.org/pipermail/xfce/2011-August/029087.html
[10:08] <tigerdog> hi!  new to the channel but not Xubuntu, I have a question about sound.
[10:10] <tigerdog> should selecting a sound card listed in the Xubuntu Mixer change the default card for the system?  I thought it should, but under 11.10 it does not.
[10:10] <knome> tigerdog, try installing and setting with pavumixer
[10:11] <tigerdog> pavumixer works fine here.  I was wondering if this is the intended behavior for the xfce mixer or just a bug.
[10:12] <tigerdog> I like keeping things vanilla if possible.  Mixer integration in the Indicator plugin is visually clean but not working as I'd hoped.
[10:12] <tigerdog> btw, thanks knome.  :)
[10:13] <Sysi> to your actual question, I was told it should work (and that's partial reason why pavucontrol isn't included in default install)
[10:14] <tigerdog> thanks Sysi.  Unfortuately, I have two systems here where it doesn't work.  Different hardware on each but exactly the same problem.
[10:15] <Sysi> I wonder how pavucontrol and paprefs are different
[10:18] <tigerdog> paprefs appears to address the PulseAudio server; pavucontrol seems to be the mixer component.
[10:22] <tigerdog> anyway, it's 2:22 AM  here.  sleepytime.  Thanks for the help Sysi and knome.
[13:36] <mintberry> foo
[14:25] <Jackneill> anyone can help me?
[14:25] <Jackneill> i start linux 11.10 generic with xfce, and i get the loading, after it freeze
[14:25] <Jackneill> any idea?
[14:27] <jubo2> samwesly_007: sorry, I couldn't help myself
[14:41] <Jackneill> i start linux 11.10 generic with xfce, and i get the loading, after it freeze, any idea?
[14:42] <SaaMmY> good morning
[14:47] <GridCube> morning
[14:51] <CaelThunderwing> which spefic vers of xubuntu should i use for an Compaq Presario R3000 Laptop?
[14:55] <Sysi> 10.04 LTS or newest stable 11.10
[14:56] <Jackneill> anyone can help me? :/
[14:57] <Sysi> Jackneill: has it worked before or did you just install it?
[14:57] <CaelThunderwing> it does have an ATI Mobility Radeon 9100 for a vid card, 512MB ram, and a 2.66ghz (single core)
[14:57] <Jackneill> worked correctly and nicely before.
[14:58] <Jackneill> one day suddenly i got an error after login: could not update /home/jackneill/.ICEauthority file
[14:58] <Jackneill> i did sudo chown jackneill path to icea..
[14:58] <Jackneill> then from cli, with startx it worked, i got the default ubuntu gnome desktop
[14:58] <Sysi> so where does it freeze? lgn screen, before?
[14:58] <Jackneill> with no settings
[14:59] <Jackneill> after restarted
[14:59] <Jackneill> before
[14:59] <popsch> what's the application to access the keyring please? I need to look up a stored password.
[14:59] <Jackneill> after the logo shows
[15:01] <Sysi> popsch: I think seahorse
[15:01] <Jackneill> so i hit enter in grub, after i got xubuntu and under dots
[15:01] <Jackneill> and then freeze.
[15:01] <Sysi> Jackneill: can you get to a terminal with Ctrl Alt F5
[15:01] <Jackneill> i dont know
[15:02] <Jackneill> i think no
[15:03] <Jackneill> sysi: i can try it if necessary
[15:04] <Sysi> that would be good start, if you can login there you can try "startxfce4"
[15:10] <Jackneill> ok
[15:16] <Jackneill> sysi: it worked now lol
[15:16] <Jackneill> sometimes works, sometimes doesnt :/
[15:17] <Kingsy> what is a decent GUI tool for checking hd / partition space and info ?
[15:17] <Jackneill> but i have again trouble, it was good with terminal, not it tells me choose a default program for terminal emulator
[15:17] <popsch> Sysi, thanks a lo
[15:17] <popsch> Sysi, t
[15:18] <Kingsy> there is nothing I can see installed by default
[15:19] <popsch> Kingsy, try gparted
[15:19] <Kingsy> thanks
[15:29] <Jackneill> can you help me? default xfce apps seems to be not installed, but there rae
[15:29] <Jackneill> are*
[15:32] <Kingsy> popsch: what about a GUI app to record webcam video? cheese is REALLY REALLY bad.. so i need something else
[15:34] <popsch> Kingsy, no clue. but try gshutter
[15:35] <Sysi> Jackneill: you mean selection for default apps doesn't see them?
[15:35] <popsch> Kingsy, google returns some hits on that
[15:35] <popsch> Kingsy, http://hublog.hubmed.org/archives/001852.html
[15:35] <Jackneill> sysi: yes
[15:35] <Jackneill>   exo-utils libexo-1-0 linux-generic linux-headers-generic linux-image-generic
[15:35] <Jackneill> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 5 not upgraded.
[15:36] <Jackneill> how can i change the default selection? for eg terminal emulator?
[15:36] <Sysi> Jackneill: you maybe should log out and remove your personal settings when logged in to Ctrl Alt F5 terminal
[15:37] <Sysi> rm -rf ~/.cache && rm -rf ~/.config
[15:37] <Jackneill> and then?
[15:38] <Kingsy> popsch: do you know where gshutter is in the repos?
[15:39] <Kingsy> popsch: yeah I saw those hits from google.. but I wants a gui solution.. other than cheese
[15:40] <TheSheep> I'm pretty sure you can record with vlc
[15:40] <Kingsy> I think you can yeah, its not very nice tho.. I tried it and it didnt work too well.. I guess I could try it again
[15:54] <Kingsy> anyone know of a "computer stat / performance widget" ? which sits on the desktop or soemthing?
[15:56] <holstein> conky?
[15:56] <fivedaysahead> you can run can install htop and run that in a terminal
[15:57] <fivedaysahead> htop
[15:57] <fivedaysahead> and just keep it open
[15:57] <fivedaysahead> kinda not what you wanted though hmm
[15:59] <fivedaysahead> or you could create a shortcut key that will launch htop for you when you want it to
[16:00] <Kingsy> yep.. conky.. exactly what I needed
[16:01] <holstein> only problem with conky is that i cant stop messing with it ;)
[16:01] <Kingsy> let me install it.. see what the crack is
[16:02] <fivedaysahead> me too
[16:02] <fivedaysahead> gonna check this out
[16:04] <Paimun> Kingsy try indicator-multiload
[16:05] <fivedaysahead> is conky X only?
[16:05] <Paimun> it sits on your panel
[16:06] <holstein> its quite configurable
[16:07] <fivedaysahead> hey i have a problem getting xrandr to detect my HDMI
[16:07] <Kingsy> Paimun: I think I am going to try conky instead
[16:08] <Paimun> alright
[16:08] <Paimun> but the option's there
[16:08] <fivedaysahead> can always try htop in the terminal too
[16:09] <Sysi> fivedaysahead: probably driver problem, what card/driver, you're connected to TV?
[16:10] <fivedaysahead> it works if i start xubuntu and have the tv on and i run xrandr and it says connected and i can just run a script that changes the resolution and sets it to the left but the problem is if i start the laptop up without the monitor connected and then turn it on and run xrandr it won't ever show it's even disconnected or connected
[16:11] <Sysi> what if you log out after connecting?
[16:11] <Sysi> and relogin
[16:21] <fivedaysahead> like restart x?
[16:21] <fivedaysahead> with ctrl alt k prt screen
[16:21] <fivedaysahead> i don't think that seems to help i have to restart the comp with the tv on and connected
[16:24] <Sysi> relogin is nicer :P
[16:24] <fivedaysahead> i have logged out and it doesn't seem to help xrandr recognize hdmi
[16:24] <fivedaysahead> not sure why
[16:25] <Sysi> I guess it's about driver
[16:27] <vasundhar> Hi My client wants to use xubuntu karmic 9.10 and asked me to enhance an application. when I am compiling on current compiler,qt it does not work so need those old libraries and apt- does not work what can I do ?
[16:27] <fivedaysahead> hmmm should i try to intall driver for it? you think that would help
[16:28] <Sysi> fivedaysahead: depends what card it is
[16:28] <fivedaysahead> some internal laptop card
[16:29] <Sysi> vasundhar: get 9.10 somewhere, install on virtualbox and try to find packages..
[16:29] <Sysi> fivedaysahead: lspci | grep VGA
[16:30] <Sysi> vasundhar: or maybe debian has old enough packages, stable or oldstable, or maybe centos
[16:30] <vasundhar> Sysi: I am running 9.10 but packages are big issue ... not able to find and dependencies are hell
[16:30] <Sysi> yeah, because it's EOL, you need to find mirror (and copy it)
[16:31] <Sysi> maybe this works http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/
[16:32] <Sysi> you should tell client he/it probably has nasty security holes
[16:32] <vasundhar> Sysi: Thanks alot you are saviour
[16:33] <fivedaysahead> oops haha i tried lspci | grep VGA via ssh i need to try it on the actual machine laughing out loud
[16:33] <vasundhar> I did ... tell and unfortunately there is world out there that has access to magic and assumes nothing less
[16:34] <vasundhar> Sysi: Can I put this URL in the source.list ?
[16:35] <Sysi> vasundhar: I think so, I got it from ~first hit on google
[16:35] <vasundhar> waw cool
[16:35] <RockTeam> Hello everybody!
[16:36] <fivedaysahead> hello!
[16:36] <RockTeam> Could somebody please check if weather forecast is working fine?
[16:37] <fivedaysahead> tell me how
[16:37] <fivedaysahead> i can't tell you till the future when the weather actually happens to know if it was accurate right? :)
[16:38] <RockTeam> http://goodies.xfce.org/projects/panel-plugins/xfce4-weather-plugin
[16:38] <fivedaysahead>  Intel Corporation Mobile 4 Series Chipset Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 07)
[16:38] <fivedaysahead> sysi should I install a driver for that?
[16:38] <Sysi> that applet broken is know bug, you should hit several fixes on google (new package from PPA or maybe proposed updates/backports, hexedit or compiling)
[16:38] <Sysi> fivedaysahead: nope, default should be as good as it gets
[16:38] <fivedaysahead> dang then why doesn't it detect my hdmi it's annoying
[16:39] <Sysi> fivedaysahead: you could confirm at #ubuntu and maybe make a bug report
[16:39] <RockTeam> Sysi, do you mean that xfce4-weather-plugin is broken?
[16:39] <Sysi> it possibly could be worked around with xorg.conf
[16:39] <Sysi> RockTeam: yeah, current build on xubuntu
[16:39] <fivedaysahead> hmmm i'll look into that
[16:40] <RockTeam> Sysi, thanks a lot!
[16:43] <baharudin> hello...
[16:49] <fivedaysahead> hello
[16:50] <Kingsy> anyone know of some decent conkyrc examples?
[16:51] <fivedaysahead> how do you run conky on the desktop?
[16:51] <fivedaysahead> i've never used it i just installed it
[16:51] <Kingsy> fivedaysahead: Alt F2   -->   conky
[16:52] <baharudin> i use xubuntu 10.04, when itry play mp3 file, totem crash without error..
[16:52] <baharudin> what should i do?
[16:56] <fivedaysahead> does it crash when you try playing it in a different player?
[17:06] <RockTeam> *** The required package libxfce4util-1.0 was not found on your system.
[17:06] <RockTeam> *** Please install libxfce4util-1.0 (atleast version 4.3.90.2) or adjust
[17:06] <RockTeam> *** the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable if you
[17:06] <RockTeam> *** installed the package in a nonstandard prefix so that
[17:06] <RockTeam> *** pkg-config is able to find it.
[17:07] <RockTeam> I can't make new xfce4-weather-plugin-0.7.4 from the source code.
[17:07] <RockTeam> Could somebody help please?
[17:08] <RockTeam> The libxfce4util is installed.
[17:09] <TheSheep> RockTeam: please don't paste here, use a pastebin in the future. You need the -dev packages
[17:10] <TheSheep> RockTeam: you can just do 'sudo apt-get build-dep xfce4-weather-plugin' to install all required dependencies
[17:12] <RockTeam> Sorry do you use xfce4-weather-plugin-0.7.4? I just want to be sure if it's working,
[17:14] <tigerdog> I just added the plugin here.  It did not detect the location.  when I manually entered the zip code, it allowed me to select the correct location but displayed "no data" even after refresh.
[17:15] <tigerdog> forecast is empty, details tab shows "99" in all entries.
[17:15] <tigerdog> so I'd say not working here.
[17:15] <tigerdog> I'm using the version shipped with Xubuntu, not sure if it's 0.7.4.
[17:15] <tigerdog> Xubuntu 11.10, that is.  :o
[17:16] <RockTeam> It's not 0.7.4 sure
[17:16] <RockTeam> My current version is 0.7.3. I use Xubuntu 10.04
[17:16] <tigerdog> how can I double-check the version.  clicking "about" in the forecast panel doesn't display it.
[17:17] <RockTeam> You may check it into Synaptic
[17:17] <tigerdog> version 0.7.4-1 here.   not working .
[17:18] <RockTeam> Ok. It's bad.
[17:23] <RockTeam> tigerdog, here is the reason: http://forum.xfce.org/viewtopic.php?id=6445
[17:23] <GridCube> tigerdog, the weather channel changed its rss feed, now its suscprition only, so all things that used its feed to show weather fails now, people on xfce will work on a new thing once they have time
[18:02] <Kingsy> anyone in here any good with conkyrc files? I have one that I like but it doesnt appear in the right part of the screen, and I cant see where in the config you change its position.. say you wanted.. top right? bottom left? top middle? etc etc.. I have no idea how to position it
[18:02] <Kingsy> I can pastie the script if there is no 1 way to do it...
[18:02] <holstein> Kingsy: are you restarting it?
[18:02] <holstein> i typically fire it up in the terminal so its easy to kill... til i get it just what way i want
[18:03] <Sysi> I think there's plenty of different conky setups at the forums
[18:03] <holstein> yeah, its overload on conkyconfig's
[18:03] <Kingsy> holstein: when you re-save the corkyrc file it auto restarts doesn it?
[18:03] <Kingsy> conkyrc**
[18:04] <holstein> Kingsy: only one way to find out
[18:04] <holstein> that has not been my findings, thats why i mention it
[18:05] <Kingsy> holstein: I am getting a few errors on start actually, I don't know if these would contribute to some strange placement
[18:05] <Kingsy> http://pastie.org/3075970
[18:05] <Kingsy> holstein: ^^
[18:06] <holstein> Kingsy: not sure
[18:07] <holstein> i would start from the beginning though.. thats how i do it.. run from the terminal.. test... kill.. edit... etc
[18:07] <holstein> i literally cant stop messing with it when i get started ;)
[18:08] <Kingsy> hehe ok np, do you have a sample conkyrc file that is a good starting point?
[18:09] <holstein> Kingsy: i think the default one is pretty good
[18:09] <holstein> you should be able to trash the one you have, or search around for one that is close to what you want, and drop it in
[18:09] <holstein> check out crunchbang live if you want.. they have a nice implementation there
[18:09] <Kingsy> thats what I did, and it didnt put it in the right place.
[18:10] <holstein> Kingsy: i remember having trouble moving it at some point, but i sorted it out
[18:11] <holstein> maybe check out http://maketecheasier.com/configuring-conky-the-very-easy-way/2010/08/24
[18:12] <Kingsy> thanks.. just looking it it now
[18:16] <Sysi> place it with devilspie if conky doesn't have own config for it
[18:25] <focalt> yo guys
[18:26] <focalt> how can I access my sdb disk throught sda?
[18:29] <holstein> focalt: ??
[18:29] <holstein> afaik, those are giving at boot time... you can mount partitions where ever you want/need
[18:51] <focalt> holstein, how do I do that, can you elucidate me?
[19:04] <holstein> focalt: sure
[19:04] <holstein> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Mount
[19:10] <focalt> thanks holstein
[19:47] <Guest9102> hi, can I ask a thing for support?
[19:47] <Guest9102> I have just installed Xubuntu on my old pc
[19:47] <Guest9102> i have installed it using acpi=off
[19:47] <Guest9102> or something like that (I can't remember exactly, I just looked around for a solution)
[19:47] <Guest9102> all is now working correctly
[19:48] <Guest9102> but my pc won't shutdown correctly
[19:48] <Guest9102> it just hangs on the splash screen with the loading line
[19:48] <Guest9102> it just hangs on the splash screen with the loading line moving
[19:48] <Guest9102> any help?
[19:49] <Sysi> how long does it stay like that?
[19:50] <Guest9102> forever :(
[19:50] <Guest9102> I have to turn it off manually
[19:50] <Guest9102> I have tried to modify
[19:50] <Guest9102> my grub config
[19:50] <Guest9102> adding acpi=force
[19:50] <Guest9102> but it didn't work
[19:52] <Sysi> you need to run update-grub after changing /etc/default/grub
[19:52] <Sysi> and I'd try that acpi=off too
[19:52] <Guest9102> yes, I did update-grub
[19:52] <Guest9102> do I need to add acpi=off
[19:52] <Guest9102> or acpi=force?
[19:53] <Sysi> you can try them, not at the same time
[19:53] <Guest9102> can I ask what does acpi does?
[19:53] <Guest9102> basically I couldn't install
[19:53] <Guest9102> xubuntu at the first time
[19:53] <Guest9102> because the splash screen was not loading
[19:53] <Sysi> noapic is one possible option too
[19:54] <Guest9102> searching around i just added 2 commands during installation
[19:54] <Guest9102> yeah, it was that!
[19:54] <Sysi> acpi is thermal control and powermanagment and stuff
[19:54] <Sysi> I'm not sure about apic but something about dealing with hardware
[19:55] <Guest9102> ok, so I will try them both
[19:56] <Guest9102> thank you in advance
[19:58] <Kingsy> anyone in here use conky?
[20:05] <Sysi> Kingsy: I think conky has own channel, or you could try #ubuntu or #xfce (I know some blokes at #xfce use conky even if it's not really support place for it)
[20:06] <Kingsy> np thanks
[20:07] <fivedaysahead> best webcam capture program?
[20:08] <fivedaysahead> nope no conky on this end just htop
[20:12] <fivedaysahead> Kingsy check out conky.sf.net
[20:12] <Sysi> he left
[20:14] <fivedaysahead> oh you're right
[20:14] <fivedaysahead> i had just found some scripts for him too http://conky.sourceforge.net/screenshots.html
[20:15] <fivedaysahead> conky can do everything! http://conky.sourceforge.net/conky-jc.png it can even make your battery go to 105% lmao
[21:30] <skegeek> Can I get some help with a video/graphic error I found in syslog?
[21:34] <GridCube> !details
[21:34] <GridCube> if someone knows they might answer
[21:38] <skegeek> Sorry, I meant to provide the error as well.
[21:38] <skegeek> ubuntu kernel: [ 5760.646575] i915 0000:00:02.0: VGA-1: EDID block 0 invalid.
[21:39] <Sysi> kind of "general error", your display doesn't give some information correctly
[21:40] <Sysi> EDID used to be needed for something but corrupted info was so usual they made patch to ignore it
[22:14] <projekt26> hey my sound sometimes just stops working. does anyone know how to fix this?
[22:16] <fivedaysahead> could it be your receiver?? if you have your comp hooked up to a receiver? my marantz does that all the time and it pisses me off and i have nooo way of fixing it. do you have pauvolumecontrol or whatever it's called
[22:16] <fivedaysahead> try installing pulsevolume control
[22:17] <projekt26> nope it's not hooked up to anything
[22:18] <fivedaysahead> sudo apt-get install pavucontrol
[22:18] <fivedaysahead> try that program i was havng problems with my hdmi sound
[22:18] <fivedaysahead> then running that i could change the settings
[22:21] <holstein> projekt26: i would try playing something in VLC... something *without* flash... something *not* in the browser, just to try and isolate what the issue is
[22:22] <fivedaysahead> yes does it happen with different programs?
[22:22] <fivedaysahead> holstein: how do i enable automatic login?
[22:22] <projekt26> yea I did that. it doens't play sound anywhere at all. I also installed pavucontrol as fivedaysahead suggestd and it's only showing a 'dummy output' device
[22:23] <fivedaysahead> could be a driver problem hmmm
[22:23] <fivedaysahead> i enabled it so i don't have to type the password at login but i don't know how to have it automatically login i still have to click the login button
[22:23] <holstein> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1588283 the second post here is the way i would try fivedaysahead
[22:23] <holstein> projekt26: it?
[22:23] <holstein> you have no audio now?
[22:24] <projekt26> yes I don't have audio now
[22:24] <projekt26> if I reboot audio is back however
[22:24] <holstein> i used to have an alsa fix... a restart... lemee look
[22:25] <fivedaysahead> sudo apt-get install alsa-base maybe? idk
[22:26] <holstein> projekt26: something like /sbin/alsa force-reload
[22:26] <holstein> my sound would die, and i would run this command that i set as a desktop shortcut... but thats been a while
[22:26] <projekt26> holstein: I have tried that already, as well as some other 'fixes' I found via google. none worked
[22:27] <projekt26> ah well, I guess I will just reboot more often
[22:27] <holstein> projekt26: try other kernels, and other alsa version
[22:27] <holstein> sudo /sbin/alsa force-reload should work
[22:27] <holstein> whats the error after you try that?
[22:27] <holstein> the messages
[22:27] <projekt26> well it doesn't work
[22:27] <projekt26> no error.. it just shows the unloading and the reloading
[22:28] <holstein> projekt26: and after that, you card is not available in pavucontrol?.. i seem to remember that killing my audio device
[22:28] <holstein> just opening pavucontrol would kill this particular VIA audio device
[22:30] <fivedaysahead> no such file or directory when i try to edit that gdm file i'm on xubuntu with xfce that doesn't use gdm doesn't it use lightdm or lightgdm or something?
[22:31] <holstein> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1864527 maybe
[22:31] <projekt26> holstein: nope same thing, just a dummy device. but it seems that this can not be easily fixed so I will just go with rebooting before I change something and kill my auio for good. thanks for your help
[22:32] <holstein> right.. if your troubleshooting looks like this... force alsa reload, then run pavucontrol, that is what was killing my audio device
[22:39] <projekt26> ok I found a way to fix it: pulseaudio --kill followed by pulseaudio --start
[22:40] <holstein> thats pretty easy
[22:40] <fivedaysahead> very nice
[22:40] <fivedaysahead> lightdm.conf was what i needed to fix for automatic login
[22:40] <fivedaysahead> how do i reset grub 2?
[22:41] <holstein> reset?
[22:41] <holstein> sudo update-grub you mean?
[22:41] <fivedaysahead> maybe?
[22:42] <fivedaysahead> i installed xubuntu and then installed mint and now it defaults to mint i installed startmanager to try to make it default to mint but it almost worked but doesn't select the right xubuntu it selects the memory test and idk why i have it set to use the right xubuntu but for some reason it selects the memory test
[22:43] <holstein> i dont know what startmanager is, but sometimes i just go in after installing and run sudo update-grub and all is well
[22:44] <mongy> fivedaysahead,  I boot to whatever I want as default and run sudo grub-install /dev/sda
[22:45] <mongy> then the obligatory update-grub of course
[22:45] <holstein> yup ^^ that should get you what you want, and give you the option to boot everything
[22:45] <fivedaysahead> so what does sudo update-grub do?
[22:46] <mongy> fivedaysahead, populate your boot menu with everything
[22:46] <holstein> other installations (new ones)
[22:47] <fivedaysahead> thanks
[23:33] <CrownWheel> Hey, channel.  I've got an issue with the Thunar file manager.
[23:33] <CrownWheel> It will not display the contents of my home directory, as in /home/ubuntu
[23:35] <CrownWheel> It originally failed with "Error stating file '/home/.gvfs "
[23:36] <CrownWheel> ls -l of my /home revealed screwed up permissions for .gvfs, just as described in the old Fedora post.
[23:37] <CrownWheel> Apparently whatever error affected .gvfs also affects /etc/mtab, which now exhibits similarly corrupted permissions flags.
[23:37] <CrownWheel> umount .gvfs worked to restore sensible permissions, as reported  by ls -l
[23:38] <CrownWheel> I noticed that permissions to .bash_history were also corrupted.
[23:38] <CrownWheel> this reads:
[23:39] <CrownWheel> -?????????  ? ?      ?          ?                ? .bash_history
[23:40] <CrownWheel> an explicit ls -l .bash_history results in:
[23:40] <CrownWheel> ls: cannot access .bash_history: Input/output error
[23:41] <CrownWheel> To tie this back to Thunar, after "fixing" the permissions flags with "umount .gvfs", Thunar still can't display the contents of /home/ubuntu, failing with:
[23:42] <CrownWheel> Error stating file '/home/ubuntu/.bash_history': Input/output error.
[23:42] <CrownWheel> So, the forums seem to think this is an old and well known bug in Thunar
[23:43] <CrownWheel> (the Fedora solution was to close the bug report, since it was reported for Fedora 9, which would not be supported much longer at the time of the post...)
[23:44] <CrownWheel> And the powers that be, behind Ubuntu, seem to think that Thunar is the greatest thing since colorized ls.  So, is this problem solved...somewhere?
[23:44] <CrownWheel> Can I make Thunar stop trying to use WHATEVER .gvfs is and just display some files?