[00:00] whats the problem? [00:00] after 10 seconds of inactivity, the screen brightness is reduced by two steps [00:01] theres a setting in xfce4-power-manager-settings which should affect this, but doesnt [00:01] yes, ive noticed that [00:01] never bothered me tho [00:02] i'd like to read text for longer than 10 seconds, that is why i asked [00:02] i have my setting to never change the brigtness but it changes just a little bit if iddle for some time with battery only [00:02] moving the mouse every 8 seconds is quite annoying [00:02] it pretty noticeable here [00:02] mine never goes sooo bad [00:03] but this looks like a bug in the power manager, doesn't it? [00:03] maybe [00:03] don't know [00:03] hi anyone used xubuntu precise with orca or know if it will be more accessible? [00:03] you can chante the percentage of brigtness change on the powermanager [00:04] Fudge, i know of people who uses orca, but don't use it myself [00:05] changing the percentage doesn't affect it as well [00:05] thanks GridCube [00:05] it just gets darker by the same amount no matter what i choose [00:05] mmhm [00:05] however i use the binary ati drivers, if that matters [00:05] it might [00:06] doesnt ati has a config manager? [00:06] i'm not sure, if they interfere with the display brightness, but i killed all other processes tentatively without auccess [00:06] it has, but the power management only has two options, max power vs max saving [00:06] and i never had that problem before [00:07] pimperle, it should have more options on the battery or connected options [00:12] yes, i changed thos [00:13] strange enough, it doesn't remember my percentage setting and jumps to 20% whenever i open the dialog [00:21] mmhm [00:21] i seethat too === `mOOse` is now known as m00se [01:55] Hello? [01:55] .......... So if anyone is here; here is the situatoin: [01:58] Installing xubuntu from flash drive. When I have it fully installed I restart and boot up like normal then screen freezes and it shows the damens (I think that is what they called). And all of them have the [OK] execpt for the automatic system error report which failed. It hangs there and forces me to reboot the system and every time I boot It does the same thing. This is the 3rd time I have made a clean flash drive version of Xubun [01:58] nothing else does [01:58] any advice other than to google it (which I have) [01:59] and no results have helped === Nax is now known as Exio4|Away [04:30] hi there, somebody know how to disable the poping up sound bar volume? i am runnig cairo dock and it has its own sound bar so i dont want to have two of them lol [05:03] visitor_1: elaborate... take a screenie if it helps [05:07] visitor_1: i was thinking more to the channel at large... you can use http://imagebin.org/ [05:08] http://imagebin.org/190361 [05:09] you see on top right the big sound bar which appears when you change the sound volume on the cairo dock [05:10] i only want the little sound bar on the cairo dock [05:10] visitor_1: thats going to be notifications [05:11] so how can i disable them? [05:12] you can remove the package that displays *all* notifications [05:12] hmm have to try that [05:12] you could search and find out what that package is called... [05:12] but i also would lose xchat notification i guess [05:13] visitor_1: *all* notifications [05:13] * holstein reading http://mail.xfce.org/pipermail/xfce/2011-August/029087.html [10:08] hi! new to the channel but not Xubuntu, I have a question about sound. [10:10] should selecting a sound card listed in the Xubuntu Mixer change the default card for the system? I thought it should, but under 11.10 it does not. [10:10] tigerdog, try installing and setting with pavumixer [10:11] pavumixer works fine here. I was wondering if this is the intended behavior for the xfce mixer or just a bug. [10:12] I like keeping things vanilla if possible. Mixer integration in the Indicator plugin is visually clean but not working as I'd hoped. [10:12] btw, thanks knome. :) [10:13] to your actual question, I was told it should work (and that's partial reason why pavucontrol isn't included in default install) [10:14] thanks Sysi. Unfortuately, I have two systems here where it doesn't work. Different hardware on each but exactly the same problem. [10:15] I wonder how pavucontrol and paprefs are different [10:18] paprefs appears to address the PulseAudio server; pavucontrol seems to be the mixer component. [10:22] anyway, it's 2:22 AM here. sleepytime. Thanks for the help Sysi and knome. [13:36] foo [14:25] anyone can help me? [14:25] i start linux 11.10 generic with xfce, and i get the loading, after it freeze [14:25] any idea? [14:27] samwesly_007: sorry, I couldn't help myself === Nex4 is now known as Nax [14:41] i start linux 11.10 generic with xfce, and i get the loading, after it freeze, any idea? [14:42] good morning [14:47] morning [14:51] which spefic vers of xubuntu should i use for an Compaq Presario R3000 Laptop? [14:55] 10.04 LTS or newest stable 11.10 [14:56] anyone can help me? :/ [14:57] Jackneill: has it worked before or did you just install it? [14:57] it does have an ATI Mobility Radeon 9100 for a vid card, 512MB ram, and a 2.66ghz (single core) [14:57] worked correctly and nicely before. [14:58] one day suddenly i got an error after login: could not update /home/jackneill/.ICEauthority file [14:58] i did sudo chown jackneill path to icea.. [14:58] then from cli, with startx it worked, i got the default ubuntu gnome desktop [14:58] so where does it freeze? lgn screen, before? [14:58] with no settings [14:59] after restarted [14:59] before [14:59] what's the application to access the keyring please? I need to look up a stored password. [14:59] after the logo shows [15:01] popsch: I think seahorse [15:01] so i hit enter in grub, after i got xubuntu and under dots [15:01] and then freeze. [15:01] Jackneill: can you get to a terminal with Ctrl Alt F5 [15:01] i dont know [15:02] i think no [15:03] sysi: i can try it if necessary [15:04] that would be good start, if you can login there you can try "startxfce4" [15:10] ok [15:16] sysi: it worked now lol [15:16] sometimes works, sometimes doesnt :/ [15:17] what is a decent GUI tool for checking hd / partition space and info ? [15:17] but i have again trouble, it was good with terminal, not it tells me choose a default program for terminal emulator [15:17] Sysi, thanks a lo [15:17] Sysi, t [15:18] there is nothing I can see installed by default [15:19] Kingsy, try gparted [15:19] thanks [15:29] can you help me? default xfce apps seems to be not installed, but there rae [15:29] are* [15:32] popsch: what about a GUI app to record webcam video? cheese is REALLY REALLY bad.. so i need something else [15:34] Kingsy, no clue. but try gshutter [15:35] Jackneill: you mean selection for default apps doesn't see them? [15:35] Kingsy, google returns some hits on that [15:35] Kingsy, http://hublog.hubmed.org/archives/001852.html [15:35] sysi: yes [15:35] exo-utils libexo-1-0 linux-generic linux-headers-generic linux-image-generic [15:35] 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 5 not upgraded. [15:36] how can i change the default selection? for eg terminal emulator? [15:36] Jackneill: you maybe should log out and remove your personal settings when logged in to Ctrl Alt F5 terminal [15:37] rm -rf ~/.cache && rm -rf ~/.config [15:37] and then? [15:38] popsch: do you know where gshutter is in the repos? [15:39] popsch: yeah I saw those hits from google.. but I wants a gui solution.. other than cheese [15:40] I'm pretty sure you can record with vlc [15:40] I think you can yeah, its not very nice tho.. I tried it and it didnt work too well.. I guess I could try it again [15:54] anyone know of a "computer stat / performance widget" ? which sits on the desktop or soemthing? [15:56] conky? [15:56] you can run can install htop and run that in a terminal [15:57] htop [15:57] and just keep it open [15:57] kinda not what you wanted though hmm [15:59] or you could create a shortcut key that will launch htop for you when you want it to [16:00] yep.. conky.. exactly what I needed [16:01] only problem with conky is that i cant stop messing with it ;) [16:01] let me install it.. see what the crack is [16:02] me too [16:02] gonna check this out [16:04] Kingsy try indicator-multiload [16:05] is conky X only? [16:05] it sits on your panel [16:06] its quite configurable [16:07] hey i have a problem getting xrandr to detect my HDMI [16:07] Paimun: I think I am going to try conky instead [16:08] alright [16:08] but the option's there [16:08] can always try htop in the terminal too [16:09] fivedaysahead: probably driver problem, what card/driver, you're connected to TV? [16:10] it works if i start xubuntu and have the tv on and i run xrandr and it says connected and i can just run a script that changes the resolution and sets it to the left but the problem is if i start the laptop up without the monitor connected and then turn it on and run xrandr it won't ever show it's even disconnected or connected [16:11] what if you log out after connecting? [16:11] and relogin [16:21] like restart x? [16:21] with ctrl alt k prt screen [16:21] i don't think that seems to help i have to restart the comp with the tv on and connected [16:24] relogin is nicer :P [16:24] i have logged out and it doesn't seem to help xrandr recognize hdmi [16:24] not sure why [16:25] I guess it's about driver [16:27] Hi My client wants to use xubuntu karmic 9.10 and asked me to enhance an application. when I am compiling on current compiler,qt it does not work so need those old libraries and apt- does not work what can I do ? [16:27] hmmm should i try to intall driver for it? you think that would help [16:28] fivedaysahead: depends what card it is [16:28] some internal laptop card [16:29] vasundhar: get 9.10 somewhere, install on virtualbox and try to find packages.. [16:29] fivedaysahead: lspci | grep VGA [16:30] vasundhar: or maybe debian has old enough packages, stable or oldstable, or maybe centos [16:30] Sysi: I am running 9.10 but packages are big issue ... not able to find and dependencies are hell [16:30] yeah, because it's EOL, you need to find mirror (and copy it) [16:31] maybe this works http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/ [16:32] you should tell client he/it probably has nasty security holes [16:32] Sysi: Thanks alot you are saviour [16:33] oops haha i tried lspci | grep VGA via ssh i need to try it on the actual machine laughing out loud [16:33] I did ... tell and unfortunately there is world out there that has access to magic and assumes nothing less [16:34] Sysi: Can I put this URL in the source.list ? [16:35] vasundhar: I think so, I got it from ~first hit on google [16:35] waw cool [16:35] Hello everybody! [16:36] hello! [16:36] Could somebody please check if weather forecast is working fine? [16:37] tell me how [16:37] i can't tell you till the future when the weather actually happens to know if it was accurate right? :) [16:38] http://goodies.xfce.org/projects/panel-plugins/xfce4-weather-plugin [16:38] Intel Corporation Mobile 4 Series Chipset Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 07) [16:38] sysi should I install a driver for that? [16:38] that applet broken is know bug, you should hit several fixes on google (new package from PPA or maybe proposed updates/backports, hexedit or compiling) [16:38] fivedaysahead: nope, default should be as good as it gets [16:38] dang then why doesn't it detect my hdmi it's annoying [16:39] fivedaysahead: you could confirm at #ubuntu and maybe make a bug report [16:39] Sysi, do you mean that xfce4-weather-plugin is broken? [16:39] it possibly could be worked around with xorg.conf [16:39] RockTeam: yeah, current build on xubuntu [16:39] hmmm i'll look into that [16:40] Sysi, thanks a lot! [16:43] hello... [16:49] hello [16:50] anyone know of some decent conkyrc examples? [16:51] how do you run conky on the desktop? [16:51] i've never used it i just installed it [16:51] fivedaysahead: Alt F2 --> conky [16:52] i use xubuntu 10.04, when itry play mp3 file, totem crash without error.. [16:52] what should i do? [16:56] does it crash when you try playing it in a different player? [17:06] *** The required package libxfce4util-1.0 was not found on your system. [17:06] *** Please install libxfce4util-1.0 (atleast version 4.3.90.2) or adjust [17:06] *** the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable if you [17:06] *** installed the package in a nonstandard prefix so that [17:06] *** pkg-config is able to find it. [17:07] I can't make new xfce4-weather-plugin-0.7.4 from the source code. [17:07] Could somebody help please? [17:08] The libxfce4util is installed. [17:09] RockTeam: please don't paste here, use a pastebin in the future. You need the -dev packages [17:10] RockTeam: you can just do 'sudo apt-get build-dep xfce4-weather-plugin' to install all required dependencies [17:12] Sorry do you use xfce4-weather-plugin-0.7.4? I just want to be sure if it's working, [17:14] I just added the plugin here. It did not detect the location. when I manually entered the zip code, it allowed me to select the correct location but displayed "no data" even after refresh. [17:15] forecast is empty, details tab shows "99" in all entries. [17:15] so I'd say not working here. [17:15] I'm using the version shipped with Xubuntu, not sure if it's 0.7.4. [17:15] Xubuntu 11.10, that is. :o [17:16] It's not 0.7.4 sure [17:16] My current version is 0.7.3. I use Xubuntu 10.04 [17:16] how can I double-check the version. clicking "about" in the forecast panel doesn't display it. [17:17] You may check it into Synaptic [17:17] version 0.7.4-1 here. not working . [17:18] Ok. It's bad. [17:23] tigerdog, here is the reason: http://forum.xfce.org/viewtopic.php?id=6445 [17:23] tigerdog, the weather channel changed its rss feed, now its suscprition only, so all things that used its feed to show weather fails now, people on xfce will work on a new thing once they have time [18:02] anyone in here any good with conkyrc files? I have one that I like but it doesnt appear in the right part of the screen, and I cant see where in the config you change its position.. say you wanted.. top right? bottom left? top middle? etc etc.. I have no idea how to position it [18:02] I can pastie the script if there is no 1 way to do it... [18:02] Kingsy: are you restarting it? [18:02] i typically fire it up in the terminal so its easy to kill... til i get it just what way i want [18:03] I think there's plenty of different conky setups at the forums [18:03] yeah, its overload on conkyconfig's [18:03] holstein: when you re-save the corkyrc file it auto restarts doesn it? [18:03] conkyrc** [18:04] Kingsy: only one way to find out [18:04] that has not been my findings, thats why i mention it [18:05] holstein: I am getting a few errors on start actually, I don't know if these would contribute to some strange placement [18:05] http://pastie.org/3075970 [18:05] holstein: ^^ [18:06] Kingsy: not sure [18:07] i would start from the beginning though.. thats how i do it.. run from the terminal.. test... kill.. edit... etc [18:07] i literally cant stop messing with it when i get started ;) [18:08] hehe ok np, do you have a sample conkyrc file that is a good starting point? [18:09] Kingsy: i think the default one is pretty good [18:09] you should be able to trash the one you have, or search around for one that is close to what you want, and drop it in [18:09] check out crunchbang live if you want.. they have a nice implementation there [18:09] thats what I did, and it didnt put it in the right place. [18:10] Kingsy: i remember having trouble moving it at some point, but i sorted it out [18:11] maybe check out http://maketecheasier.com/configuring-conky-the-very-easy-way/2010/08/24 [18:12] thanks.. just looking it it now [18:16] place it with devilspie if conky doesn't have own config for it [18:25] yo guys [18:26] how can I access my sdb disk throught sda? [18:29] focalt: ?? [18:29] afaik, those are giving at boot time... you can mount partitions where ever you want/need [18:51] holstein, how do I do that, can you elucidate me? [19:04] focalt: sure [19:04] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Mount [19:10] thanks holstein === luke is now known as Guest9102 [19:47] hi, can I ask a thing for support? [19:47] I have just installed Xubuntu on my old pc [19:47] i have installed it using acpi=off [19:47] or something like that (I can't remember exactly, I just looked around for a solution) [19:47] all is now working correctly [19:48] but my pc won't shutdown correctly [19:48] it just hangs on the splash screen with the loading line [19:48] it just hangs on the splash screen with the loading line moving [19:48] any help? [19:49] how long does it stay like that? [19:50] forever :( [19:50] I have to turn it off manually [19:50] I have tried to modify [19:50] my grub config [19:50] adding acpi=force [19:50] but it didn't work [19:52] you need to run update-grub after changing /etc/default/grub [19:52] and I'd try that acpi=off too [19:52] yes, I did update-grub [19:52] do I need to add acpi=off [19:52] or acpi=force? [19:53] you can try them, not at the same time [19:53] can I ask what does acpi does? [19:53] basically I couldn't install [19:53] xubuntu at the first time [19:53] because the splash screen was not loading [19:53] noapic is one possible option too [19:54] searching around i just added 2 commands during installation [19:54] yeah, it was that! [19:54] acpi is thermal control and powermanagment and stuff [19:54] I'm not sure about apic but something about dealing with hardware [19:55] ok, so I will try them both [19:56] thank you in advance [19:58] anyone in here use conky? [20:05] Kingsy: I think conky has own channel, or you could try #ubuntu or #xfce (I know some blokes at #xfce use conky even if it's not really support place for it) [20:06] np thanks [20:07] best webcam capture program? [20:08] nope no conky on this end just htop [20:12] Kingsy check out conky.sf.net [20:12] he left [20:14] oh you're right [20:14] i had just found some scripts for him too http://conky.sourceforge.net/screenshots.html [20:15] conky can do everything! http://conky.sourceforge.net/conky-jc.png it can even make your battery go to 105% lmao [21:30] Can I get some help with a video/graphic error I found in syslog? [21:34] !details [21:34] Please give us full details. For example: "I have a problem with ..., I'm running Ubuntu version .... When I try to do ..., I get the following output: ..., but I expected it to do ..." [21:34] if someone knows they might answer [21:38] Sorry, I meant to provide the error as well. [21:38] ubuntu kernel: [ 5760.646575] i915 0000:00:02.0: VGA-1: EDID block 0 invalid. [21:39] kind of "general error", your display doesn't give some information correctly [21:40] EDID used to be needed for something but corrupted info was so usual they made patch to ignore it [22:14] hey my sound sometimes just stops working. does anyone know how to fix this? [22:16] could it be your receiver?? if you have your comp hooked up to a receiver? my marantz does that all the time and it pisses me off and i have nooo way of fixing it. do you have pauvolumecontrol or whatever it's called [22:16] try installing pulsevolume control [22:17] nope it's not hooked up to anything [22:18] sudo apt-get install pavucontrol [22:18] try that program i was havng problems with my hdmi sound [22:18] then running that i could change the settings [22:21] projekt26: i would try playing something in VLC... something *without* flash... something *not* in the browser, just to try and isolate what the issue is [22:22] yes does it happen with different programs? [22:22] holstein: how do i enable automatic login? [22:22] yea I did that. it doens't play sound anywhere at all. I also installed pavucontrol as fivedaysahead suggestd and it's only showing a 'dummy output' device [22:23] could be a driver problem hmmm [22:23] i enabled it so i don't have to type the password at login but i don't know how to have it automatically login i still have to click the login button [22:23] http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1588283 the second post here is the way i would try fivedaysahead [22:23] projekt26: it? [22:23] you have no audio now? [22:24] yes I don't have audio now [22:24] if I reboot audio is back however [22:24] i used to have an alsa fix... a restart... lemee look [22:25] sudo apt-get install alsa-base maybe? idk [22:26] projekt26: something like /sbin/alsa force-reload [22:26] my sound would die, and i would run this command that i set as a desktop shortcut... but thats been a while [22:26] holstein: I have tried that already, as well as some other 'fixes' I found via google. none worked [22:27] ah well, I guess I will just reboot more often [22:27] projekt26: try other kernels, and other alsa version [22:27] sudo /sbin/alsa force-reload should work [22:27] whats the error after you try that? [22:27] the messages [22:27] well it doesn't work [22:27] no error.. it just shows the unloading and the reloading [22:28] projekt26: and after that, you card is not available in pavucontrol?.. i seem to remember that killing my audio device [22:28] just opening pavucontrol would kill this particular VIA audio device [22:30] no such file or directory when i try to edit that gdm file i'm on xubuntu with xfce that doesn't use gdm doesn't it use lightdm or lightgdm or something? [22:31] http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1864527 maybe [22:31] holstein: nope same thing, just a dummy device. but it seems that this can not be easily fixed so I will just go with rebooting before I change something and kill my auio for good. thanks for your help [22:32] right.. if your troubleshooting looks like this... force alsa reload, then run pavucontrol, that is what was killing my audio device [22:39] ok I found a way to fix it: pulseaudio --kill followed by pulseaudio --start [22:40] thats pretty easy [22:40] very nice [22:40] lightdm.conf was what i needed to fix for automatic login [22:40] how do i reset grub 2? [22:41] reset? [22:41] sudo update-grub you mean? [22:41] maybe? [22:42] i installed xubuntu and then installed mint and now it defaults to mint i installed startmanager to try to make it default to mint but it almost worked but doesn't select the right xubuntu it selects the memory test and idk why i have it set to use the right xubuntu but for some reason it selects the memory test [22:43] i dont know what startmanager is, but sometimes i just go in after installing and run sudo update-grub and all is well [22:44] fivedaysahead, I boot to whatever I want as default and run sudo grub-install /dev/sda [22:45] then the obligatory update-grub of course [22:45] yup ^^ that should get you what you want, and give you the option to boot everything [22:45] so what does sudo update-grub do? [22:46] fivedaysahead, populate your boot menu with everything [22:46] other installations (new ones) [22:47] thanks [23:33] Hey, channel. I've got an issue with the Thunar file manager. [23:33] It will not display the contents of my home directory, as in /home/ubuntu [23:35] It originally failed with "Error stating file '/home/.gvfs " [23:36] ls -l of my /home revealed screwed up permissions for .gvfs, just as described in the old Fedora post. [23:37] Apparently whatever error affected .gvfs also affects /etc/mtab, which now exhibits similarly corrupted permissions flags. [23:37] umount .gvfs worked to restore sensible permissions, as reported by ls -l [23:38] I noticed that permissions to .bash_history were also corrupted. [23:38] this reads: [23:39] -????????? ? ? ? ? ? .bash_history [23:40] an explicit ls -l .bash_history results in: [23:40] ls: cannot access .bash_history: Input/output error [23:41] To tie this back to Thunar, after "fixing" the permissions flags with "umount .gvfs", Thunar still can't display the contents of /home/ubuntu, failing with: [23:42] Error stating file '/home/ubuntu/.bash_history': Input/output error. [23:42] So, the forums seem to think this is an old and well known bug in Thunar [23:43] (the Fedora solution was to close the bug report, since it was reported for Fedora 9, which would not be supported much longer at the time of the post...) [23:44] And the powers that be, behind Ubuntu, seem to think that Thunar is the greatest thing since colorized ls. So, is this problem solved...somewhere? [23:44] Can I make Thunar stop trying to use WHATEVER .gvfs is and just display some files?