[02:29] <ScottK> JontheEchidna: You're an op in #kubuntu due to being on KC.
[02:29] <JontheEchidna> aah, ok
[07:01] <ybit> I made this earlier: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cRo4XZrXtc0
[07:01] <ybit> thought some of you might find it interesting
[07:02] <ybit> guess i could send something to the mailing list 
[07:02] <ybit> curious if this is the direction others have in mind
[07:02] <ybit> i know there are some who aren't
[07:02] <ybit> some being kubuntu devs
[11:25] <CIA-48> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/smokegen] Philip Muškovac * 20 * debian/changelog releasing version 4:4.7.95-0ubuntu1
[11:26] <CIA-48> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/smokeqt] Philip Muškovac * 15 * debian/changelog releasing version 4:4.7.95-0ubuntu1
[11:28] <CIA-48> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kate] Philip Muškovac * 53 * debian/changelog releasing version 4:4.7.95-0ubuntu1
[11:30] <CIA-48> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/okular] Philip Muškovac * 20 * debian/changelog releasing version 4:4.7.95-0ubuntu1
[11:31] <CIA-48> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/printer-applet] Philip Muškovac * 4 * debian/changelog releasing version 4:4.7.95-0ubuntu1
[11:33] <CIA-48> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/marble] Philip Muškovac * 23 * debian/changelog releasing version 4:4.7.95-0ubuntu1
[11:34] <CIA-48> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/libkexiv2] Philip Muškovac * 27 * debian/changelog releasing version 4:4.7.95-0ubuntu1
[11:35] <CIA-48> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/libkdcraw] Philip Muškovac * 25 * debian/changelog releasing version 4:4.7.95-0ubuntu1
[11:35] <CIA-48> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kactivities] Philip Muškovac * 4 * debian/changelog releasing version 4:4.7.95-0ubuntu1
[11:36] <CIA-48> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kross-interpreters] Philip Muškovac * 10 * debian/changelog releasing version 4:4.7.95-0ubuntu1
[11:38] <CIA-48> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kde-runtime] Philip Muškovac * 255 * debian/changelog releasing version 4:4.7.95-0ubuntu1
[11:42] <CIA-48> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kdegames] Philip Muškovac * 142 * debian/changelog releasing version 4:4.7.95-0ubuntu1
[11:43] <CIA-48> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kdemultimedia] Philip Muškovac * 139 * debian/changelog releasing version 4:4.7.95-0ubuntu1
[11:44] <yofel_> printer-applet_4.7.95-0ubuntu1_source.changes rejected, guess we'll need to update the package set again
[11:46] <CIA-48> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kdepimlibs] Philip Muškovac * 156 * debian/changelog releasing version 4:4.7.95-0ubuntu1
[11:47] <micahg> yofel_: I can sponsor something for you later today if you need
[11:49] <yofel_> I'll come back to that later if the others aren't up
[11:54] <yofel> micahg: actually, can you sponsor kactivities please? http://people.ubuntu.com/~yofel/foo/ 
[11:54] <micahg> yofel: too tired right now, but can do later today when I get up
[11:54] <yofel> kk
[11:56] <Quintasan> apachelogger: ping
[11:57] <CIA-48> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kde-baseapps] Philip Muškovac * 201 * debian/changelog releasing version 4:4.7.95-0ubuntu1
[11:57] <CIA-48> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/libkipi] Philip Muškovac * 26 * debian/changelog releasing version 4:4.7.95-0ubuntu1
[11:59] <CIA-48> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/libkdeedu] Philip Muškovac * 22 * debian/changelog releasing version 4:4.7.95-0ubuntu1
[12:00] <CIA-48> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/libksane] Philip Muškovac * 19 * debian/changelog releasing version 4:4.7.95-0ubuntu1
[12:05] <CIA-48> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kde-wallpapers] Philip Muškovac * 21 * debian/changelog releasing version 4:4.7.95-0ubuntu1
[12:22] <CIA-48> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/oxygen-icons] Philip Muškovac * 91 * debian/changelog releasing version 4:4.7.95-0ubuntu1
[12:25] <yofel> bbl
[16:15] <_Groo_> hi/2 all
[16:15] <_Groo_> yofel: ping
[16:18] <ScottK> yofel: I was going to look at kactivities, I get "You don't have permission to access /~yofel/foo/kactivities_4.7.95-0ubuntu1.dsc on this server."
[17:24] <_Groo_> yofel: ping
[17:51] <yofel> ScottK: can you upload from bzr? (seems sftp keeps permissions...) or I can reupload
[17:51] <yofel> _Groo_: pong
[17:51] <_Groo_> yofel: hey hey :D
[17:52] <yofel> I'll need someone that can upload all of the new packages in main anyway
[17:52] <_Groo_> yofel: did you by any chance compiled 4.7.95 with secrets enabled? just curious
[17:52] <yofel> _Groo_: ksecrets is a seperate package, and no, kdelibs wasn't rebuilt with secrets support
[17:52] <yofel> I'm not even sure how exactly you're supposed to use it
[17:53] <_Groo_> yofel: yes i know ksecrets is a separate package but since its not there, i figured it wasnt added :)
[17:53] <yofel> there's a package in ninjas for precise, feel free to play around with it
[17:53] <_Groo_> yofel: k tks :)
[18:56] <ScottK> yofel: Possibly tonight.  I think you can change permissions in the sftp session, but I'm not sure.
[19:00] <yofel> I reuploaded with fixed permissions
[19:38] <Riddell> hi all
[19:38] <Riddell> yofel: what needs doing?
[19:38] <yofel> Riddell: anything on http://yofel.dyndns.org/kubuntu/bzrstat/ that has 4.7.95 an UNRELEASED
[19:39] <yofel> *and
[19:46] <Riddell> "yuriy-kozlov extended their membership" yay you still love us!
[19:47] <yofel> Riddell: do you have access to the package list for kubuntu-dev btw.?
[19:47] <Riddell> no but it's published somewhere public isn't it?
[19:48] <yofel> well, we need to change it - for the kdeutils and kdeaccessiblity split
[19:48] <yofel> and I'm trying to remember who we asked last time...
[19:48] <Riddell> e-mail cjwatson
[19:48] <yofel> ah, right
[19:48] <yofel> will do
[19:49] <apachelogger> yofel: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kubuntu/KubuntuDevelopers#List_of_Packages
[19:49] <apachelogger> also wiki.kubuntu.org is defunct
[19:49] <apachelogger> :(
[19:49] <yofel> yeah, use wiki.ubuntu.com :/
[19:51] <_Groo_> apachelogger: that phonon is a broken code in progress is not actually news ;)
[19:51] <_Groo_> apachelogger: btw kudos... vlc and gstreamer are very stable now :)
[19:52] <_Groo_> apachelogger: i know i like to bash phonon but im a big fan in disquise
[19:52]  * apachelogger used to be a fan :S
[19:54] <_Groo_> apachelogger: you ARE a fan :D
[19:54] <Riddell> maybe apachelogger is using qtmultimediakit
[19:54] <_Groo_> btw, off topic, anyone knows what happened to the vlc daily builds in LP? is the maintainer dead or somthing?
[19:54] <apachelogger> talking about broken code, eh? :O
[19:55] <_Groo_> Riddell: what are the plans for kde 5.0, qt 5.0? phonon or qtmultimedia? any news on if anything was decided?
[19:55] <apachelogger> _Groo_: daily builds are too expensive to maintain on lp :P
[19:55] <apachelogger> OBS supremacy
[19:55] <apachelogger> _Groo_: there is no qt5 :P
[19:55] <apachelogger> there is loads of qthings 5
[19:55] <apachelogger> among them pornon and qtmultimediakit 
[19:56] <_Groo_> apachelogger: but was anything decided in last summit? maybe a merge, or a winning backend?
[19:56] <apachelogger> what summit?
[19:56] <_Groo_> or we gonna keep the long standing tradition of supporting everything half baked?
[19:57] <_Groo_> ANY summit :D summits are too many nowadays to keep count
[19:57] <apachelogger> there was no summit where any sort of anything was discussed
[19:57] <apachelogger> sheytan: ping
[19:58] <_Groo_> apachelogger: open governance my *ss
[19:59] <_Groo_> apachelogger: so LP disabled daily builds for all projects is that it?
[19:59] <apachelogger> no
[19:59] <apachelogger> caring about it building is too expensive
[19:59] <apachelogger> so prolly remis just got sick of it :P
[19:59] <apachelogger> asuming remis made the ppa
[20:00] <_Groo_> apachelogger: do you know of a ppa with fairly recent builds i could add?
[20:01] <apachelogger> no
[20:01] <apachelogger> real men build their own vlc
[20:02] <_Groo_> apachelogger: i used to be a real man :( nowadays i dont have time to build evertyhing i would like... i already build amarok, rekonq, (used to build phonon and bastard sons)... a ppa would do
[20:02]  * apachelogger only builds pornon
[20:02] <apachelogger> and even that only ever so often
[20:04] <_Groo_> apachelogger: how do you test phonon-vlc agasint the 1.2 branch then?
[20:04] <apachelogger> I built it once
[20:04] <apachelogger> plus I do not test it
[20:04] <apachelogger> as 1.2 is not supported
[20:05] <_Groo_> apachelogger: well im using pornon-vlc with 1.2 for months now.. works like a charm...
[20:05] <apachelogger> I did not say it does not work
[20:05] <apachelogger> I said it is not supported
[20:05] <apachelogger> very different things
[20:05] <_Groo_> apachelogger: arent you the one always bitching for the second coming of vlc? aka 1.2?
[20:07] <_Groo_> apachelogger: ill just compile today git ¬¬
[20:08] <_Groo_> apachelogger: btw i cant compile phonon master in oneiric anymore... code is too messy
[20:08] <apachelogger> fails to compute
[20:09]  * _Groo_ is confused by apachelogger answer as usual
[20:09] <apachelogger> WFM
[20:10] <_Groo_> apachelogger: ahah :D
[20:10] <_Groo_> apachelogger: one of these days im gonna bump into you in person in some forsaken summit
[20:10] <_Groo_> apachelogger: and you wont know who i am till its too late!
[20:11] <apachelogger> terribly unlikely, I have broken the primary multimedia system for prn
[20:11] <apachelogger> I won't live to see another summit
[20:12] <_Groo_> apachelogger: what? pr0n is broken?????? PITCHFORKS!!!! 
[20:12] <apachelogger> see
[20:14] <_Groo_> apachelogger: what am i gonna do now???? i might even do.. do... god forbids... WORK!!!
[20:14] <Riddell> package KDE?
[20:16] <_Groo_> Riddell: yofel is on it :D hes out of pr0n since monday
[20:17] <yofel> _Groo_: feel free to package oxygen-gtk3
[20:18] <_Groo_> yofel: for oneiric or for precise? i can do it for oneiric friday (ill be at home).
[20:19] <yofel> well, shouldn't be much different for precise
[20:19] <_Groo_> yofel: i just need help with the xml generation for the default gtk theme
[20:19] <yofel> ah, that'll be a patch somewhere else anyway I think
[20:19] <_Groo_> yofel: what i mean is, i can test it on oneiric, then i can make it compile in precise, but i cant test it
[20:20] <_Groo_> yofel: we need guinea pigs
[20:20] <yofel> sure, I'm on precise
[20:20] <_Groo_> im using it in oneiric btw, with 4.7.95... works like a charm.. worked fine with 4.7.4 and 4.7.90 too
[20:23] <_Groo_> why dont we use this capable guy work? https://launchpad.net/~gnumdk/+archive/ppa/+packages
[20:27] <Riddell> feel free to investigate
[20:27] <micahg> yofel: you still need sponsoring?
[20:28] <yofel> actually yes
[20:30] <_Groo_> Riddell: anyway, i should have something cooked by friday
[20:31] <_Groo_> i doubt apachelogger fixed pr0n by then ehehehehe
[20:34] <micahg> yofel: same place?
[20:35] <Riddell> micahg: what are you uploading?
[20:35] <micahg> Riddell: yofel mentioned that he can't upload a few things due to the packageset like kactivities
[20:36] <micahg> Riddell: if you've got him covered, I'll move along :)
[20:36] <Riddell> I've got the rest of 4.7.95 preparing now
[20:37] <Riddell> takes a while to run debuild -S on all these packages
[20:40] <micahg> Riddell: ok, I'll leave it to you then
[20:40] <micahg> Riddell: BTW, would it be possible to make a team that owns kubuntu-devel with the DMB and whoever you think is appropriate as members
[20:54] <Riddell> micahg: yeah I should do that but it takes more brainpower than I have just now
[20:54] <Riddell> keep poking me
[20:54] <micahg> Riddell: ok
[20:57] <jussi> Riddell: how you feeling? 
[21:01] <Riddell> jussi: I just bought 2 litres of irn bru, that should see me through the next 24 hours
[21:01] <jussi> Riddell: hehe, but seriously - I read the blog post, how are things going? you will make a full recovery I trust?
[21:02] <Riddell> jussi: well I went canoeing today so I can't be that bad
[21:03] <Riddell> or maybe I'm just a very good canoeist that I can do it with one eye shut
[21:03] <jussi> Riddell: fair enough.
[21:03] <jussi> haha
[21:03] <Riddell> I'll probably make a recovery, nobody known for sure, just wait and see
[21:03] <jussi> Riddell: I guess they were not hard  rapids / no rapids at all then? .p
[21:04] <Riddell> not until the end when I was hoping other people would take over the leadership/coaching
[21:04] <Riddell> but not, these polo players just care about themselves and their ball, tsk
[21:16] <JontheEchidna> anybody else seeing uninstallable libkworkspace4 on precise?
[21:18] <micahg> wfm
[21:31] <ulysses> haha, Muon 1.2.65 is „Daring Dalek” :)
[21:35] <JontheEchidna> :P
[21:35] <JontheEchidna> It's actually been Doctor Who aliterations since the first release :>
[22:00] <ScottK> micahg: Why do we need a separate team to own kubuntu-dev?
[22:00] <micahg> ScottK: just an option is Riddell wants to stay as owner
[22:00] <micahg> s/is/if
[22:01] <micahg> we did this for edubuntu so the edubuntu council and the DMB can own/administer, but not receive rights
[22:22] <Riddell> yofel: 4.7.95 building
[22:22] <Riddell> yofel: it's in ppa for oneiric?
[22:22] <Riddell> shall we do a kubuntu.org story?
[22:23] <yofel> you could probably just upload - it build fine in ninjas, and I don't remember adding build-deps
[22:23] <yofel> oh right, the announcement is missing, oneiric is in beta ppa
[22:23] <Riddell> we can be the first! http://kde.org/info/4.7.95.php#binary
[22:24] <Riddell> yofel: do you want to do kubuntu.org or shall I?
[22:24] <yofel> it would be nice if you could do it, I'm busy with something else currently
[22:24] <Riddell> can do
[22:30] <Riddell> http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-sc-4.7.95
[23:03] <micahg> is it ok for me to give back the kdelibs5-dev armel failures? it seems to be built and published now
[23:06] <micahg> retrying
[23:18] <Riddell> thanks micahg 
[23:19] <micahg> I had a list from last week already and a shell command to just retry them all :)
[23:28] <Riddell> nifty
[23:28] <Riddell> yofel: hmm, pykde4 failure?
[23:29] <Riddell> not what happened in the oneiric ppa
[23:30] <yofel> wth...
[23:30] <yofel> neither in precise ninjas
[23:33]  * yofel looks for build-dep changes
[23:40] <yofel> Riddell: It's the new sip that ScottK uploaded 3 days ago, I uploaded to ninjas a day before that, and downgrading sip makes pykde build again
[23:41] <yofel> ah, came from debian
[23:41] <JontheEchidna> the best I can tell is that sip is magic
[23:42] <yofel> agreed
[23:43] <Riddell> hmm, email simon?
[23:43] <micahg> yofel: sorry, a lot of those armel retries will come back as failed again since kde-workspace isn't built, I'll retry them again later once that's built
[23:44] <yofel> np, mail mailbox is flooded anyway
[23:44] <yofel> *my mailbox
[23:44] <micahg> I just retried kde-workspace on all archs and it's building or queued now