[01:39] <thewrath> hello all
[02:04] <stlsaint> thewrath: sup man
[02:05] <thewrath> nothign much
[02:05] <thewrath> u?
[04:53] <thewrath> i have a server i have iptables enabled with the default rule as drop
[04:53] <thewrath> i need to get on the machine
[04:53] <thewrath> how can i bypass iptables
[04:54] <holstein> thewrath: can you go to the box?
[04:54] <holstein> if not, you might have to 'call in' or whatever
[04:54] <thewrath> the only chain is this "
[04:54] <thewrath> iptables -P INPUT DROP
[04:55] <thewrath> that will drop all connections coming in right?
[04:55] <holstein> not sure... i dont use it.. i thought you were lockec out
[04:55] <holstein> locked*
[04:56] <thewrath> i am not locked out as i believe iptables is dropping all connections
[04:58] <thewrath> does that make sense holstein
[04:59] <holstein> thewrath: im sure it does.. i just dont use iptables
[06:12] <thewrath> do you know collinp ?
[06:12] <collinp> Hi.
[06:12] <collinp> What's up?
[06:21] <IAmNotThatGuy> thewrath: Hi
[06:21] <IAmNotThatGuy> and wb collinp =]
[06:21] <collinp> Thanks :)
[06:21] <collinp> I see the team has changed quite a bit since I've been gone.
[06:22] <IAmNotThatGuy> hehe. Yep =]
[06:22] <thewrath>  iptables -P INPUT DROP
[06:22] <thewrath> does what
[06:22] <thewrath> hey IAmNotThatGuy
[06:23] <thewrath>  iptables -P INPUT DROP will drop all traffic coming in as it is the sole policy
[06:26] <stlsaint> collinp: yo yo yo
[06:26] <stlsaint> collinp: surprise you remember the name of these channels ;)
[06:28] <collinp> :P lol.
[06:28] <IAmNotThatGuy> LOL
[07:55] <seidos> trying to use wget to download all files from bazaar tree, but it's not working
[07:55] <seidos> i'm doing wget -r -nH -m <url>
[07:56] <stlsaint> seidos: what is the tree link?
[07:56] <seidos> i know i've done it before, but i didn't save the code
[07:56] <seidos> stlsaint: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~sanbar/+junk/RandConverse/files/head:/src/
[07:56] <seidos> code=command
[07:58] <stlsaint> why not just download directly?
[07:58] <stlsaint> seidos: pull entire branch via bzr
[08:00] <seidos> stlsaint: nevermind, already did it
[08:00] <seidos> i should know how to use wget though
[08:00] <stlsaint> aye wget is great
[08:00] <seidos> maybe the server doesn't allow wget grabs or something
[08:00] <seidos> because i've done it before with -r i'm sure
[08:03] <stlsaint> cool never used wget for bzr
[08:06] <seidos> ah, yeah, never used wget with bzr
[08:13] <stlsaint> seidos: you interested in packaging?
[08:14] <JackyAlcine> stlsaint: you good at it?
[08:30] <stlsaint> JackyAlcine: good at what?
[08:30] <JackyAlcine> Packaging.
[08:30] <stlsaint> oh heck no im novice at it at best
[08:31] <JackyAlcine> Can't ever get my recipes on Launchpad to work right.
[08:31] <JackyAlcine> :/ Okayies.
[08:31] <JackyAlcine> :D
[08:31] <stlsaint> JackyAlcine: need help with something?
[08:32] <JackyAlcine> Just wanted to figure out why my packages for https://www.launchpad.net/speechcontrol fails to generate any binary packages.
[08:32] <JackyAlcine> All of the packages would be empty.
[08:32] <stlsaint> ha ive done that before
[08:33] <JackyAlcine> Is it something with my control file?
[08:33]  * JackyAlcine can't even check it out on Launchpad, his SSL is blocked.
[08:34] <stlsaint> gimme one sec i will take a gander...what are you using...autotools?
[08:34] <JackyAlcine> CMake.
[08:38] <stlsaint> ah cmake i see
[08:40] <stlsaint> JackyAlcine: i have minor work with cmake but i will take a glance
[08:40] <JackyAlcine> It makes life so much easier; I can't see myself going back to AutoTools :P
[08:45] <stlsaint> hrm strange to say better than autotools lol
[08:47] <JackyAlcine> Well, I mean, whenever I add or remove new files to the projects, I don't have to add it to the Makefile, it generates a new one for me.
[08:47] <JackyAlcine> If I need a new dependency, I just pop into the list of dependencies and it links it to the projects and libraries I choose.
[08:47] <JackyAlcine> !cmake
[08:47] <ubot2`> Factoid 'cmake' not found
[08:48]  * JackyAlcine headdesks.
[08:48] <JackyAlcine> !info cmake
[08:48] <stlsaint> true
[08:48] <JackyAlcine> cmake (source: cmake): cross-platform, open-source make system. In component main, is optional. Version 2.8.5-1ubuntu1 (oneiric), package size 4134 kB, installed size 10120 kB
[08:48] <stlsaint> ah i gotta install all the cmake again cause im on a new install :\
[08:49] <stlsaint> JackyAlcine: have you tried the #ubuntu-packaging channel?
[08:49] <stlsaint> JackyAlcine: im building a iso right now so i will glance after my build
[08:50] <JackyAlcine> Funny enough, I'm hanging out in there; I mean, it's for mere experimentation atm, but by February, I should be practicing for the project's release.
[08:50] <JackyAlcine> Thanks nonetheless, stlsaint
[08:52] <stlsaint> np
[08:53] <stlsaint> JackyAlcine: try asking jtaylor in that channel sometime. hes great
[08:56] <JackyAlcine> I'll do so.
[12:37] <dmtarmey> hello does anyone know i can shut down all services on my system not needed say if i wont to run a games and use all the computer resources
[12:39] <bioterror> what services?
[12:40] <dmtarmey> well all services that are taking up resource that are slowing the system down
[12:42] <bioterror> the biggest slowdown is 3D enabled desktop
[12:43] <bioterror> if you're talkinga bout playing games
[12:45] <dmtarmey> yes what i would like to do is close down all the services running in the back ground that are not needed for the job at hand
[12:47] <bioterror> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/systemd
[12:47] <bioterror> "offers on-demand starting of daemons"
[12:47] <bioterror> :-)
[12:48] <bioterror> from my point of view: in Linux there's no such thing as not-needed services
[13:02] <dmtarmey> bioterror cheers ill have a look
[16:44] <r4y> I have an rca player here which I can't get to work exactly how I want. A song begins before another album and so on. There were songs that wouldn't play. I used kid3 to edit them and they are as they should be I think. Any suggestions?
[16:45] <r4y> The songs that wouldn't play now play but that was after formatting it to the right format
[16:45] <holstein> r4y: the 'right' format?
[16:45] <r4y> fat 32
[16:46] <holstein> OH.... you have an RCA portable media player
[16:46] <holstein> some of those cheap-y players are just that... cheap-y
[16:46] <r4y> It is the same format as it was, I wrote down all the details when I was checking it out with disk utility
[16:47] <r4y> true, o well
[16:47] <holstein> it wont have anything to do with that
[16:47] <r4y> that?
[16:47] <holstein> the player will likely only function with one format
[16:47] <r4y> I formatted it to the same format
[16:47] <holstein> unless you would like to just use it as a hard drive
[16:48] <holstein> r4y: right... what im saying is, that wont matter... that = formatting
[16:48] <holstein> the device will play as it plays
[16:48] <r4y> O, sorry
[16:48] <holstein> you can look into another firmware for it
[16:48] <r4y> let's see
[16:49] <holstein> i used to use http://www.rockbox.org/ firmware for my older archos... quite an improvment
[16:49] <r4y> 1050
[16:49] <r4y> aduiovox rca
[16:50] <r4y> oops
[16:50] <holstein> r4y: it should be easy to search there... would you like me to search for you?
[16:50] <r4y> audiovox rca
[16:50] <r4y> I will check
[16:50] <r4y> Do you mean the rca website?, or?
[16:51] <holstein> r4y: i mean, a 3rd party firmware site such as the one i linked
[16:51] <holstein> thats what will change the functionality of that device, potentially for the better
[16:52] <holstein> you can see if RCA has an updated firmware that addresses your issues
[16:52] <r4y> It has a mode button, forward backward, plus and minus for volume, and play
[16:52] <holstein> r4y: ?
[16:53] <r4y> there are 6 buttons
[16:53] <holstein> doesnt matter.. what we are talking about is the basice function of the device
[16:53] <holstein> basic*
[16:53] <holstein> it is giving you unwanted behavior
[16:53] <holstein> seems like it is not managing the 'edges' of the music files in a way you like
[16:54] <holstein> allowing them to 'overlap'
[16:54] <r4y> not exactly
[16:54] <r4y> an example
[16:54] <holstein> r4y: ok... thats the way i read it
[16:54] <holstein> feel free and elaborate... but keep in mind, this has nothing to do with ubuntu
[16:54] <r4y> the first album is the new primus album which is supposed to be under p not a
[16:55] <holstein> this = the funcionality of the playback on the device
[16:55] <holstein> r4y: that has to do with the way you 'grab' the album.. or extract, or tag, or file
[16:55] <holstein> whatever you want to call it...
[16:55] <r4y> the first song of the sailing the sea of cheese comes before the album frizzle fry
[16:56] <holstein> right... that has to do with the way the tracks are tagged, or the way the device is interpreting the tags
[16:56] <r4y> I tried kid3 like I said. So should I try different firmware?, and if so can I change back?
[16:56] <holstein> r4y: i can only speak for my experience
[16:56] <r4y> I understand
[16:56] <holstein> i found the rockbox firmware a *great* improvement
[16:57] <holstein> i never tried reverting, though i read about how to revert, and it seemed easy for that device
[16:57] <r4y> I am looking at the link
[16:57] <holstein> you'll need to either change the tagging of the files to a way the device understands
[16:58] <holstein> or try a different firmware
[16:58] <r4y> it doesn't have rca listed
[16:58] <holstein> r4y: "it" has RCA Lyra AV (RD 2780) listed
[16:58] <holstein> which is not your device, but there are other 3rd party firmwares
[16:58] <r4y> this one is th1814wm-a
[16:59] <holstein> right... i dont see that one there.. would you like me to google for a 3rd party firmware for you?
[16:59] <r4y> any help would be great, ty
[16:59] <r4y> I am as well
[17:01] <r4y> I am not sure there is much that can be done. I looked and th1814wm-a has limited results on Google
[17:01] <holstein> r4y: i dont see any
[17:02] <holstein> r4y: well, you can edit the tags
[17:02] <holstein> you can try a different method of extracting
[17:02] <holstein> you can physically rename the files
[17:02] <holstein> you can search for help through RCA
[17:02] <r4y> extracting?
[17:02] <holstein> the 3rd party firmware was just something that really helped me
[17:02] <r4y> TY for trying
[17:03] <holstein> r4y: extracting is a method by which you "grab" the audio files from the CD
[17:03] <holstein> you end up with mp3's or whatever
[17:03] <holstein> they are tagged.. those tags can be edited
[17:03] <r4y> hmm, maybe I should try that. Might be the best bet
[17:03] <holstein> http://savvyadmin.com/mp3-tag-editing-in-linux/
[17:03] <r4y> TY, I will try that
[17:04] <holstein> could be that whatever you used to extract is making tags in a format the player cant read
[17:04] <r4y> TY, I bookmarked that
[17:04] <holstein> or, if you didnt extract, and you bought/stole the files as digital files with tags that are not being read
[17:05] <r4y> the order is wrong, except for the songs that were not being read which were only 3 songs but like I siad that work now after formatting
[17:05] <r4y> I meant they work now
[17:05] <holstein> r4y: i could be wrong, but i think the formatting is irrelevant
[17:06] <r4y> Maybe I did something else to make the song that were not working work
[17:06] <holstein> either way, lets assume reformatting the device when adding each file is *not* an option
[17:07] <r4y> I wasn't sure that doing so was going to make it not work which was chancing it
[17:07] <r4y> but it works
[17:07] <r4y> I mean it didn't help it much if not at all
[17:08] <r4y> Anyways, I will try from a CD
[17:09] <r4y> TY for helping me. I will read the link. I am going to go. Have a good day. :)
[19:12] <r4y> holstein
[19:12] <r4y> O well
[19:13] <r4y> Maybe you are logging this holstein
[19:14] <r4y> For some reason my rca mp3 player can only handle so much on it. I put less albums and the songs and albums are layed out in the proper order
[19:14] <r4y> so it wasn't my fault, but like you said cheap equals cheap
[19:15] <r4y> bye
[22:23] <iggy19> hey all
[22:23] <iggy19> have a question about managing space on my filesystems
[22:23] <iggy19> anyone have a minute to chat?
[22:26] <sunyata> hi iggy19! ask your question, and if someone can they will respond
[22:27] <iggy19> sunyata: thanks
[22:28] <iggy19> Basically, I'm running out of space on devices, and not sure A) why and B) how to fix it
[22:28] <iggy19> Not sure what utilities/commands I should be using to see where my space is used up.
[22:29] <sunyata> processing...
[22:30] <iggy19> Also, not clear why, for example, System Monitor shows 2.3GiB free on my sysroot device, and only 1.4Gib availible.  What's the difference between free and available?
[22:30] <iggy19> Several other related questions as well, but don't want to overwhelm channel right now.
[22:30] <sunyata> iggy19: have you tried using df in a terminal?
[22:30] <sunyata> then compare w/ system monitor?
[22:31] <iggy19> sunyata: not familiar w/ df.  Will brb after I try it.
[22:31] <sunyata> will continue processing question
[22:32] <sunyata> iggy19: "find" may also be a useful tool.  it has a -size option.  man find for details
[22:32] <sunyata> example in time...
[22:34] <sunyata> hmmm, searching for "greater than" option for -size parameter
[22:36] <iggy19> Oh, background info: partitions on this machine = sda1 is truecrypted NTFS, sda2 is restore partition, sda3 is boot, sda4 is extended, sda5 is LVM/dm-crypt containing / and /home, and sda6 is truecrypt container.
[22:36] <iggy19> sda5 and sda6 are w/in the sda4
[22:38] <sunyata> ah iggy19, sudo find / -size +100M
[22:38] <sunyata> could change the 100 to the size of your choice
[22:38] <iggy19> sunyata, that will recurse?
[22:39] <sunyata> iggy19: believe so.  try it to be sure
[22:39] <iggy19> trying
[22:39] <sunyata> likewise
[22:40] <iggy19> appears to be processing, slowlu
[22:40] <iggy19> *slowly
[22:41] <iggy19> Ah! Explained on thing! I dumped a 10gb file owned by root, and was suprised by only recovering 1gb of space from it - turns out it went into trash owned by root
[22:41] <iggy19> Not sure why even 1GB was recovered, but at least now I can go dump that trash folder.
[22:41] <iggy19> find still running
[22:43] <iggy19> the command "sudo cd <path>" fails w/ the error "sudo: cd: command not found" - is this expected behavior?
[22:46] <sunyata> iggy19: happens here as well
[22:47] <iggy19> the trash file I found owned by root was located at a not-so-logical-to-me place.  Hoping someone can explain.  Path was: /root/.local/share/Trash/files
[22:48] <iggy19> sunyata: re: cd, that seems weird.  How does one access root's directories via CLI w/o sudo?
[22:53] <sunyata> iggy19: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[22:54] <stlsaint> iggy19: how are you tryign to access root dirs' without sudo??
[22:55] <sunyata> iggy19: should mention it says "None of the methods below are suggested or supported by the designers of Ubuntu."
[22:59] <iggy19> stlsaint: I'm not, just saying, if sudo cd <path> doesn't work, how does one access directories owned by root at the command line.  That seems like a basic operational need - as in my case to delete a 10GB file in root's trash.
[22:59] <iggy19> sudo rm <path>/* is failing as well
[23:00] <iggy19> saying no such file, yet I can see it in Nautilus
[23:01] <stlsaint> iggy19: sudo -i
[23:01] <iggy19> sunyata: i'm reading the URL about root sudo.  I've readit before, but it's been a while
[23:01] <stlsaint> then navigate to the dir
[23:01] <stlsaint> the command "cd" itself does not require sudo
[23:02] <iggy19> stlsaint: sudo -i = interactive sudo?  How is that different than su?
[23:02] <iggy19> (except that maybe su doesn't work w/ root account disabled)
[23:03] <stlsaint> su is used to invoke root account. sudo is used when username is added to sudoers already
[23:04] <iggy19> so, if uname is in sudoers, and root is active, the net effect of "sudo -i" and "su root" are the same?
[23:04] <sunyata> not sure how to get into root folder without invoking sudo -s, sudo su, or sudo -i, well, chmod, but is that a better idea?
[23:05] <stlsaint> iggy19: yes and no
[23:06] <stlsaint> sunyata: your not going to gain access to something you dont have permissions to. So sudo will be required to view root level access
[23:06] <iggy19> thank you both
[23:07] <iggy19> still reading and expiripmenting.  Will have follow-up questions shortly, if y'all are still around.  Your assistance has been most appreciated!
[23:08] <stlsaint> iggy19: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Su_(Unix)
[23:08] <sunyata> stlsaint: what was meant is to view /root, it's either sudo chmod 444 /root or sudo -s cd /root
[23:08] <stlsaint> iggy19: that gives examples
[23:08] <stlsaint> sunyata: why would you change permissions on a root file?
[23:09] <stlsaint> why is the -s switch being used?
[23:10] <stlsaint> The -S (stdin) option causes sudo to read the password from the standard input instead of the terminal device.  The password must be followed by a newline character.
[23:10] <stlsaint> sorry...wrong one
[23:11] <iggy19> stlsaint: I opened a directory in Nautalis using right-click, "open as administrator" then I deleted a directory below that owned by root.  That directory ended up getting written to /root/.local/share/Trash/files which doesn't make much sense to a noob like me.  Can you explain what the .local directory was, and why the sytem put a trash folder there?
[23:11] <stlsaint> sunyata: root filesystem files should not be changed
[23:12] <iggy19> stlsaint - in this case they sure should be.  Vbox vmachine was owned by root, and I wanted it gone to free space on device...
[23:13] <stlsaint> iggy19: even further question: Why is a virtual machine owned by root
[23:13] <iggy19> stlsaint - that I don't know.  Seems a bad idea to me.  But, the folder containing the .vdi files was definitely owned by root.
[23:14] <iggy19> decent chance it's something I f'd up.
[23:14] <stlsaint> hrm, maybe im missing something. one sec please
[23:15] <stlsaint> iggy19: yea that is not suppose to be owned by root
[23:15] <stlsaint> all my machines are owned by user
[23:16] <iggy19> now we are getting way beyond what I was interested in learning about tonight, but, how was I even able to run that VM if the vdi file was owned by root?
[23:17] <philipballew> whats the issue stlsaint
[23:19] <philipballew> iggy19, whats your issue?
[23:20] <stlsaint> good question
[23:20] <stlsaint> iggy19: did you ever have to enter a password when using vbox? and where did you store your vms? (use pwd to give me a path)
[23:20] <sunyata> you=0
[23:22] <sunyata> good luck iggy19, hopefully you'll get your issues squared away
[23:24] <iggy19> philipballew: trying to learn about how to better manage space on my devices.  Running out of room, and not sure why.  Several related questions...
[23:24] <r4y> I have an mp3 player that still plays music but will not mount on Ubuntu and Windows XP. I accidentally pulled it before right clicking to safely remove it. I want to format it or fix it if possible
[23:24] <iggy19> stlsaint: re: pw, no, I never did
[23:25] <iggy19> sunyata: thank you. figuring it out.
[23:25] <stlsaint> r4y: ouch
[23:26] <stlsaint> iggy19: where are your machines hosted?
[23:26] <r4y> disk utility doesn't have my mp3 player shown, and when I keep it plugged in when logging in, Ubuntu will not open the log in screen untill I pull it
[23:27] <r4y> I tried seeing if DBAN would dectect it, but it didn't.
[23:27] <iggy19> Current question: is there a way to limit size of log files?  Just found a 1.6GB daemon.log.1 file
[23:28] <stlsaint> iggy19: hrm ive never had a log file that large. dont know
[23:28] <iggy19> stlsaint: VMs were in a directory under /, now are in a directory under /media/truecrypt1/
[23:29] <r4y> I wonder if I can still get a replacement from Walmart. I have the reciept which says 12/05/11
[23:30] <r4y> I threw away the package it came in though
[23:30] <stlsaint> iggy19: well that is why you have root owning them
[23:30] <stlsaint> r4y: try it ;)
[23:30] <iggy19> stlsaint: explain please
[23:30] <r4y> Couldn't hurt. Sorry for bumping in this channel
[23:31] <stlsaint> iggy19: also take a look at that log file. For something that large something is happening that shouldnt be and is beign logged
[23:31] <r4y> take care
[23:31] <stlsaint> later
[23:31] <iggy19> r4y: walmart is going to be nuts this time of year, bet they don't blink an eye when you try to retutn it. 90 day policy in general.
[23:31] <iggy19> doh, he go bye-bye
[23:32] <iggy19> stlsaint: looking at log now.
[23:34] <iggy19> stlsaint: this mean anything to you: Dec 19 21:40:00 Evolution named[1341]: error (network unreachable) resolving 'riseup.net/A/IN': 2001:7fe::53#53
[23:34] <stlsaint> nothing to worry about
[23:34] <stlsaint> are you on wifi
[23:38] <iggy19> wifi in front of a crappy dsl that goes down all the time
[23:39] <stlsaint> iggy19: that is why you get that error
[23:41] <iggy19> stlsaint: except that there are bazillions of them.  That 1.2GB log file appears to cover only 3 days, unless gedit failed to load it all w/o an error.
[23:43] <iggy19> n/m, that file is still loading.  Nonetheless, 99.5% of it appears to be that error.
[23:47] <stlsaint> iggy19: logrotate is your friend ;)
[23:53] <iggy19> stlsaint: http://forums.cpanel.net/f5/rh-5-4-update-bind-named-network-unreachable-resolving-ipv6-129889.html
[23:55] <stlsaint> your on ipv6?
[23:57] <iggy19> no, that appears to be the issue.  "The new bind version 9.3.6 (Redhat 5.4) try to use IPv6 transport even if the server host does not have IPv6 connectivity, resulting in slower name resolution."
[23:57] <iggy19> I've found similar reports a couple of places on the web
[23:58] <stlsaint> well at least there is a fix
[23:58] <iggy19> all my deamon logs are that big.  Logrotate had been compressing them, but not before they get huge.  Fortunaletly they compress down to about 50mb
[23:58] <iggy19> *MB