| * ajmitch managed to spend a couple of days mostly away from the computer | 00:00 | |
| micahg | I managed 8 hours last thursday while awake :) | 00:00 |
|---|---|---|
| Laney | ajmitch: you were thinking about it though, admit it | 00:00 |
| ajmitch | Laney: I had my laptop with me | 00:01 |
| stgraber | :) | 00:01 |
| ajmitch | just no decent desk to put it on | 00:01 |
| Laney | crisis | 00:01 |
| ajmitch | I know | 00:01 |
| stgraber | hehe, yeah, the past week or so has been like that for me too, I'm in Europe visiting the family and apparently nobody has a decent desk and desk chair ... | 00:02 |
| ajmitch | laptop on bed = 85C CPU | 00:02 |
| ajmitch | Laney: I know you've got a long TODO list for me, too :) | 00:03 |
| micahg | tumbleweed: siretart: assuming that you're both sleeping, so uploaded a new libav-extra with the version fixed | 00:19 |
| Laney | TODO: Give Laney lots of money | 00:21 |
| * iulian gives Laney a new TODO list. | 00:21 | |
| * Laney reads "Give iulian all of your things, and tell him the meaning of life" | 00:25 | |
| ajmitch | Laney: funny chap, you're such an optimist | 00:25 |
| Laney | strange that I don't remember writing this down but it is on my TODO list, so … | 00:25 |
| ajmitch | I think I need to buy a new hard drive soon | 00:26 |
| Laney | i want more ram | 00:29 |
| Laney | my overlayfs has run out several times recently | 00:29 |
| * micahg also wants more RAM | 00:29 | |
| * ajmitch was getting unrecoverable read errors in syslog last night | 00:30 | |
| ajmitch | smartctl says that my hard drive is not happy | 00:30 |
| Laney | mmm, not fun | 00:30 |
| ajmitch | yeah, it was on the 1.5TB drive tht I'd put in a few months ago, too | 00:31 |
| ajmitch | all the older drives are fine, of course | 00:31 |
| micahg | haskell FTBFS are addictive | 00:33 |
| ajmitch | nothing /me noticed you uploading quite a few haskell rebuilds last night | 00:33 |
| ajmitch | bah | 00:33 |
| ajmitch | s/nothing // | 00:33 |
| micahg | now that I understand how it works, it's fairly easy to fix | 00:34 |
| * micahg just needs a script now to automate most of it :) | 00:34 | |
| iulian | Brill! Told ya it's not that bad. | 00:38 |
| iulian | http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/transitions/ghc.html looks good though. | 00:39 |
| micahg | ah, I've been rebuilding the rdeps of whatever I upload after it builds | 00:40 |
| iulian | That's fine, you haven't missed anything. | 00:44 |
| Laney | hooray for volunteers | 00:45 |
| Laney | micahg: now just write your next project in Haskell | 00:45 |
| Laney | . o O ( one of us … ) | 00:45 |
| * iulian nods. | 00:45 | |
| ajmitch | sick | 00:45 |
| iulian | ajmitch: & wonderful. | 00:45 |
| * ajmitch is currently doing some python stuff instead | 00:46 | |
| micahg | laney: I don't think so :) | 00:46 |
| Laney | it'll do you good | 00:47 |
| Laney | honest guv | 00:47 |
| iulian | Heh. | 00:48 |
| ajmitch | see how nefarious these types are? | 00:48 |
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| siretart | micahg: excellent, thanks! | 06:42 |
| === nxvl_ is now known as nxvl | ||
| micahg | siretart: one of these days, I'll get good at git so I can commit this stuff myself as well | 07:14 |
| siretart | micahg: :-) | 07:42 |
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| Quintasan | bdrung: Any special procedure to get my MOTU membership renewed? It expires in 4 days AFAIR. | 11:57 |
| ajmitch | Quintasan: you should have an email from LP asking you to renew, iirc | 11:58 |
| * Quintasan attempts to find that | 11:59 | |
| Quintasan | Ah! | 12:00 |
| Quintasan | ajmitch: Thanks!\ | 12:00 |
| ajmitch | no problem | 12:01 |
| tumbleweed | micahg: thanks | 12:52 |
| jtaylor | tumbleweed: I'm already looking at amide | 13:41 |
| jtaylor | (or btter waiting for the b-d to install :) ) | 13:41 |
| tumbleweed | jtaylor: great, my mirror is currently broken anyway | 13:47 |
| jtaylor | is an underlinked library reason enough for an sru? dcmdata is missing pthread and libz links | 14:00 |
| jtaylor | amide could be fixed by adding these links multiple times on the command line | 14:00 |
| geser | jtaylor: I guess so, as currently the lib is "broken" (can't be used unless the program links with those missing libs by its own because it needs them) | 14:07 |
| tumbleweed | not that much uses dcmtk, so that should be easy to check | 14:08 |
| jtaylor | dcmtk is in great shape, none of its libraries link with anything | 14:42 |
| jtaylor | not even libstdc++ ... | 14:43 |
| tumbleweed | heh | 14:44 |
| tumbleweed | well, I suppose most consumers link to that | 14:44 |
| geser | doesn't it link the needed libs at all or only not because of "--as-needed"? | 14:45 |
| jtaylor | at all | 14:45 |
| jtaylor | also in debian | 14:45 |
| geser | :( | 14:46 |
| jtaylor | and it probably won't be fixed | 14:46 |
| jtaylor | debian bug 510120 | 14:46 |
| geser | why? it's intended? | 14:46 |
| ubottu | Debian bug 510120 in dcmtk "dcmtk: Missing link to libxml2 (libdcmsr)" [Wishlist,Open] http://bugs.debian.org/510120 | 14:46 |
| jtaylor | bad upstream | 14:46 |
| tumbleweed | most are :) | 14:46 |
| geser | urgs | 14:49 |
| geser | so if they add need an other lib in a new API all programs need to get patched to link it too? that's really bad | 14:51 |
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| Alison_Chaiken | Mornin', all. My bud pleia2 has answered many of my n00b debian packagin questions and I have at length RTFM, but I have a couple of remaining uncertainties. | 18:51 |
| Alison_Chaiken | The project I'm working on includes 3 git repos that we have created, plus we tend to need the latest greatest version of some Qt packages, not what would already be available at launchpad. | 18:52 |
| Alison_Chaiken | My Qt-component build needs a bunch of Qt libraries. My other packages depend on some Qt libraries too. | 18:53 |
| Alison_Chaiken | The QUESTION is: should I be conservative and list every Qt dependency exhaustively in every package? | 18:54 |
| Alison_Chaiken | There's no big deal with duplication of depends between interdependent packages? | 18:54 |
| jtaylor | the dependencies should be handled automatically as long as your package is linked correctly | 18:55 |
| jtaylor | dpkg-shlibdeps does that | 18:55 |
| Alison_Chaiken | I can't see why there would be, and the source packaging of the top-level app might break if our packages that it depends on change dependencies. | 18:55 |
| Alison_Chaiken | Very good, jtaylor, I have a look at those docs. | 18:55 |
| Alison_Chaiken | But just so I know, if interdependent packages have duplicate dependencies, it shouldn't matter, right? | 18:56 |
| Alison_Chaiken | The libraries are shared object anyway, not statically compiled. | 18:56 |
| jtaylor | your packages should depend on everything they directly need | 18:58 |
| Alison_Chaiken | Got it, jtaylor, I'll be inclusive then. | 18:58 |
| jtaylor | unless you are using plugins that is usually all done automatically and not manually | 18:58 |
| Alison_Chaiken | Some of the objects are plugins that can be specified at runtime . . . Hmm! | 18:59 |
| Alison_Chaiken | My newly built (first!) dsc file show my blah-dev package, which I intended to be a source package as a "Binary:". Would that be because my "Section" in the control file is wrong? | 20:47 |
| Alison_Chaiken | I had put "devel" for the Section. Maybe it should be "dev"? I don't see this info anywhere in the docs. Thanks! | 20:48 |
| micahg | Alison_Chaiken: where does it show? | 20:50 |
| micahg | the Binary entries in the .dsc file are created from the list in debian/control | 20:50 |
| jtaylor | -dev packages should be binary | 20:51 |
| jtaylor | binary packages are packages that are built from source packages, even if they only contain text | 20:51 |
| Alison_Chaiken | micahg, there are two packages listed in the control, one a -dev and one intended to be a binary. Obviously I've got something wrong since my dsc file created by debuild show my -dev package as a binary. | 20:52 |
| KNRO | hello, using the launchpad build system, suppose I'm building a package that depends on another package that I uploaded to my PPA, how do I tell launchpad build system to look for it in the build recipe? is there a way? now it gives errors that my package is 'virtual' because it doesn't know that it exists on the ppa itself. | 20:52 |
| micahg | Alison_Chaiken: no, that's correct | 20:52 |
| Alison_Chaiken | Ah, jtaylor, what format are -dev packages in then? gzip? | 20:52 |
| jtaylor | Alison_Chaiken: the section for lib-dev packages is libdevel | 20:52 |
| micahg | Alison_Chaiken: binary in the .dsc file refers to what will be built as .deb files | 20:52 |
| jtaylor | Alison_Chaiken: depends on the compression used, gzip is default | 20:53 |
| Alison_Chaiken | I see, micahg. | 20:53 |
| jtaylor | bzip2 and xz are possible too | 20:53 |
| Alison_Chaiken | For a binary executable that is not a library, should I list a section in control, and if so, which? | 20:53 |
| jtaylor | depends on the program | 20:54 |
| jtaylor | here is a list of sections: http://packages.ubuntu.com/precise/ | 20:54 |
| Alison_Chaiken | My program is a Qt-based framework for plugins that talk to automotive hardware: an embedded app. | 20:54 |
| jtaylor | the name for control is in the links | 20:54 |
| KNRO | so anyone knows? How can you tell launchpad to look for packages that are outside universe during the build process? | 20:55 |
| Alison_Chaiken | So I was going to put the binary in "Embedded software" | 20:55 |
| Alison_Chaiken | Thanks for the hyperlink, jtaylor. I was looking at different, much shorted debian.org list. | 20:56 |
| jtaylor | debians is shorter? | 20:57 |
| KNRO | err okay, can you tell launchpad to build with multiverse packages?!!!! | 20:59 |
| Ampelbein | KNRO: What exactly do you mean? | 21:37 |
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