[09:50] <popey> Morning all.
[10:03] <dwatkins> hiya
[10:08] <gordonjcp> morning
[10:25] <feisar> I'm having trouble with OpenJRE and Audio. Under Ubuntu openjre seems only to find the PulseAudio virtual mixer, can I change this?
[10:27] <gordonjcp> java and audio
[10:27] <gordonjcp> you're brave
[10:27] <feisar> hehe it's for Subsonic
[10:28] <feisar> I think it will work if I uninstall openjre and go with Oracle's version but I didn't want to do that
[10:29] <feisar> it looks like the Ubuntu version of openjre only has one audio mixer, a virtual pulse audio device
[10:29] <feisar> which is no good for a 'headless' server
[10:50] <brobostigon> good morning everyone,
[11:04] <gordonjcp> morning
[11:07] <czajkowski> aloha
[12:33] <daubers> Afternoon
[12:33] <gordonjcp> hi
[12:35]  * daubers makes use of the hackspaces interwebs
[12:35] <christel> morning
[12:35] <christel> er, afternoon perhaps
[13:07] <AlanBell> afternoon
[13:08] <popey> Hello
[13:08]  * AlanBell wonders about Farnham drinkies over the next few days
[13:30] <christel> DRINKIES \o/
[13:57] <Pendulum> hiya
[14:16] <gordonjcp> Pendulum: was that the New Year party round at mine?
[14:18] <RaycisCharles> Why wasn't I invited?
[14:19] <gordonjcp> RaycisCharles: you probably weren't hanging around in #lugradio at the time
[14:20] <RaycisCharles> I would've brought a keg of Lithuanian vodka.
[14:22] <Pendulum> gordonjcp: yeah
[14:23] <Pendulum> gordonjcp: the person who I was responding to is in Edinburgh, which is why I mentioned the Scotland bit
[14:26] <gordonjcp> Pendulum: you'll need to come out to the new place some time
[14:26] <gordonjcp> flatter, fewer steps ;-)
[14:27] <Pendulum> gordonjcp: sadly, I have no idea when I'll be over next. Probably not going to be any time soon :(
[14:28] <RaycisCharles> Make sure you let me know this time.
[14:41] <kvarley> Where is the grub list stored? I want to change the title of some of the entries in my boot list
[17:25] <Azelphur> gordonjcp: that post on WHT is going quite well, my host saw it and I've got straight through to the boss there, haha
[17:27] <gordonjcp> Azelphur: about your connection?
[17:27] <Azelphur> yea
[17:40]  * penguin42 hmms and hars about buying a new TV
[18:56] <mgdm> I'm on a boat!
[18:58] <DJones> mgdm: Paddle faster
[18:59] <mgdm> this is a new boat; it has fancy new-fangled iron paddles
[18:59] <mgdm> (or probably bronze now that I think about it)
[18:59] <DJones> Hmmh, Bronze age boating
[18:59] <mgdm> hehe
[19:02] <MartijnVdS> very steampunk
[19:05] <DJones> mgdm: I name your boat the "Not for hire"
[19:06] <mgdm> heh
[19:07] <Azelphur> haha wtf at mtr, first time I've ever seen this, it says I lost a packet going to my router, I'm on cabled gige
[19:07] <Azelphur> weird
[19:08] <Azelphur> and mtr --report gives totally different results than mtr on it's own \o/
[20:07] <penguin42> Azelphur: You will occasionally get that - although it's rare, shouldn't be more than 1 or 2 packets an hour flat out at gige speeds
[20:07] <Azelphur> fun
[20:08] <MartijnVdS> penguin42: I seem to have 3-4 routes to almost anywhere in the world, chosen at random
[20:08] <MartijnVdS> penguin42: so my MTR output becomes huge fast
[20:09] <MartijnVdS> wait.. that's v6
[20:10] <penguin42> MartijnVdS: That's not too unusual, although it's a little false in the sense that MTR uses packets that aren't normal packets and don't necessarily follow the normal routing tricks
[20:10] <MartijnVdS> penguin42: true
[20:10] <MartijnVdS> as long as it works.. :)
[20:16] <penguin42> yeh it can occasionally be a bit misleading
[20:52] <martsbradley> Hi folks,
[20:52] <martsbradley> I'd like to get my app into ubuntu, I've just added it to launchpad tonight.   A couple of years ago it was a closed source app that I was trying to sell to teachers, sold two of them.
[20:53] <martsbradley> Could someone try the build out on their machine, It works on mine :-)
[20:53] <martsbradley> https://code.launchpad.net/sumtree
[20:53] <martsbradley> To get the code down.
[20:53] <martsbradley> bzr branch lp:sumtree      then the usual ./configure && make && make install
[20:53] <ali1234> what does it do?
[20:54] <martsbradley> Video of the app is at  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xc9cu-ekFrg  ,   I've tried also on #wxwidgets and #launchpad-dev but there is no reply.
[20:54] <ali1234> neither of those is an appropriate place
[20:56] <ali1234> you know... arithmetic precidence is something almost nobody knows or cares about... just saying
[20:57] <ali1234> (to the point where even if you know the correct rules, chances are whoever wrote down the question didn't anyway)
[20:58] <martsbradley> Yea ali1234 I know that in the real world.     But in school they teach it.
[20:59] <ali1234> which version of wx does it need?
[20:59] <ali1234> i very much recommend rewriting it in QML
[21:00] <martsbradley> 2.8
[21:01] <ali1234> http://paste.ubuntu.com/785026/
[21:01] <martsbradley> Qt, I was at that years ago.   Then jumped to wxwidget, Java Swing, and now Eclipse RCP.
[21:01] <ali1234> wow
[21:01] <ali1234> it's like you're travelling backwards through time or something
[21:02] <martsbradley> I think that Eclipse RCP is really good, hard to get into tho.
[21:02] <ali1234> i used swing at university in like 1998
[21:02] <ali1234> that was a hellish experience
[21:02] <martsbradley> ali1234,    did you do the ./configure.
[21:02] <ali1234> yes
[21:05] <martsbradley> I was doing Swing for a bank in 2005.  Its probably still in use.
[21:06] <martsbradley> What version of wx-widgets have you got?
[21:06] <martsbradley> wx-config --cflags
[21:06] <martsbradley> -I/usr/lib/wx/include/gtk2-unicode-release-2.8 -I/usr/include/wx-2.8 -D_FILE_OFFSET_BITS=64 -D_LARGE_FILES -D__WXGTK__ -pthread
[21:06] <martsbradley> Is what I have.
[21:07] <ali1234> you should use wx-config
[21:07] <martsbradley> (Its probably still in use) I mean Swing, not my crappy code :-)
[21:07] <ali1234> oh yeah, swing had improved a lot since 98
[21:08] <martsbradley> Ali do you have wx-common package installed?   I had to install that to get some m4 macro that was needed for the autotools.
[21:09] <ali1234> yes
[21:10] <martsbradley> I was following the help here http://wiki.wxwidgets.org/Autoconf#Generating_the_configure_script when trying to create the configure.ac file.
[21:12] <ali1234> i dont thinkt he problem is in the configuration
[21:20] <martsbradley> The two compliation lines are the same on your machine and mine.
[21:20] <martsbradley> Would you be able to output the result of the configure into a pastebin please?
[21:23] <martsbradley> Also could I see the output of "wx-config --version",   It might be that I've specified 2.8.0 as the wx-widgets version but I need something more like 2.8.10
[21:23] <ali1234> http://paste.ubuntu.com/785050/
[21:23] <ali1234> i have 2.8.11
[21:24] <martsbradley> Arrgh, then I don't know whats wrong.
[21:24] <martsbradley> Maybe it just don't build with 2.8.11?
[21:24] <martsbradley> But it does with 2.8.10.
[21:27] <martsbradley> Thanks ali1234 for trying it out, I'm not sure why its not working.
[21:29] <martsbradley> bye