[00:00] <jimisrvrox2> wes: http://dpaste.de/MPeJQ/
[00:00] <metaspike> bonny_ search for "sun java ubuntu" on google, sun-java is no longer supported officially and is required for minecraft to run properly
[00:00] <CrownWheel> almostroot, I don't know what gvfs is.  But, apparently, Thunar needs it. This paricular bug is old, I found it posted to (and ignored on) a Fedora 9 forum
[00:00] <bonny__> i dont use ubuntu
[00:00] <metaspike> ...
[00:00] <bonny__> but im on the channel because its most helpful
[00:01] <metaspike> the rolling stone gathers moss
[00:01] <wes> jimisrvrox2: Ah, I understand now.  You are expecting grep to return just the matching part of the expression, but in fact, it returns the entire line
[00:01] <metaspike> what -are- you using bonny_?
[00:01] <wes> jimisrvrox2: an easy solution to this problem is to use sed on the result of your grep
[00:01] <bonny__> jolicloud
[00:02] <wes> jimisrvrox2: roughly like  this    grep RE myfile | sed 's/^\(.*\)\(RE\)\(.*\)$/\2/'     where RE is the regular expression you are looking for
[00:02] <almoxarife> CrownWheel: can you see if gvfs-fuse is installed?
[00:02] <CrownWheel> almostroot, oh...or is Thunar just failing to display my directory contents because it doesn't know how to deal with the corrupted .gvfs subdirectory?
[00:02] <CrownWheel> I'll check.
[00:02] <bonny__> Ive installed an app to enable java
[00:02] <wes> jimisrvrox2: in fact, you can probably do something like this to avoid typing it twice:
[00:02] <bonny__> which i really dont know if it works
[00:02] <pooltable> ok how do i reset the topt and bottom pannel in 11.10 trying to make it look like 11.04
[00:03] <CrownWheel> Synaptic is taking its time....
[00:04] <CrownWheel> almoxarife, yeah, gvfs-fuse is installed.
[00:04] <wes> jimisrvrox2:  bash#  RE="my regular expression"; grep "$RE" myfile | sed "s/^\(.*\)\($RE\)\(.*\)$/\2/"
[00:04] <metaspike> bonny_ can you open a terminal?
[00:05] <Kiten> anyone have experience with inspircd ?
[00:05] <almoxarife> CrownWheel: do you mount any external drives or see a need to do so?
[00:05] <bonny__> yeah
[00:05] <bonny__> im on it righ tnow
[00:05] <metaspike> apt-cache search sun-java
[00:05] <almoxarife> CrownWheel: by external I mean not on your own machine
[00:05] <CrownWheel> Yes.  This is a Live install, running off USB.  Is GVFS providing the FS in the "persistence" file?
[00:05] <Kiten> bonny_, with setting it up ?
[00:05] <CrownWheel> oh, no.  no network drives.
[00:06] <bonny__> yeah from installing java to playing minecraft
[00:06] <almoxarife> CrownWheel: it is, you do need gvfs on a live
[00:06] <CrownWheel> okay.
[00:06] <bonny__> im on joli cloud it has terminal and everything but its a little different from ubuntu
[00:07] <Kiten> bonny_, but inspircd is irc
[00:07] <CrownWheel> So, it's not a Thunar issue.  .gvfs isn't needed by Thunar.  It's a GVFS *thing*
[00:07] <bonny__> wat?
[00:07] <bonny__> inspiircd?
[00:07] <bonny__> wats that
[00:08] <almoxarife> CrownWheel: look in the .gvfs folder, in your home folder, what is shown?
[00:08] <Kiten> ahh nvm must have taken your answer as directed to me ;9
[00:08] <jimisrvrox2> wes: hate to ask this but i am pretty new to the RE and sed stuff so if you dont mind can you post an explination in a PM so I can copy/paste it into a text so I can better understand what this is actually doing..
[00:08] <CrownWheel> I can't.  even from the command line, it produces an "input output error"
[00:09] <CrownWheel> just ls -l .gvfs does
[00:09] <CrownWheel> oh, cd works.
[00:09] <jimisrvrox2> wes: the grep stuff I posted I actually copied some of the text and changed it around and figured it out myself last night being that I have no internet at the house..
[00:09] <metaspike> bonny_ if you've install the java addon, you need to restart your session after wards.
[00:09] <CrownWheel> right...because I "umout"ed .gvfs (following the old Fedora forum advice)
[00:09] <bonny__> what does that mean , sorry im kidna new to this
[00:09] <matthewofencinit> I just installed xubuntu11.10 on my dell inspiron 6400, but wifi is not functioning.  Any suggestions?
[00:10] <CrownWheel> after umount .gvfs, the permissions appeared "fixed" when viewed with ls -la
[00:10] <tnk1> matthewofencinit, plug into a wired connection, and download the linux-modules-backports-wireless maybe
[00:10] <tnk1> or whatever that package is closely named
[00:10] <metaspike> bonny, install the addon, restart your computer. if that doesnt work... yeah... it gets complicated. get the linux self extracting binary from java, run it and hope it doesnt munt your setup.
[00:10] <CrownWheel> okay, so I'm in /home/.gvfs.
[00:10] <bonny__> Just tell me how to install it?
[00:10] <bonny__> how i get it to work
[00:10] <CrownWheel> ls -la shows nothing there.
[00:10] <almoxarife> CrownWheel: I don't know fedora, and fedora is not ubuntu, I suggest you look at the helpful hints associated with ubuntu/your version/ and gvfs, :)
[00:11] <mongy> matthewofencinit,  what is the output of lspci | grep Network
[00:11] <CrownWheel> yeah, yeah...only post I could find hitting "Thunar" and .gvfs.  But now I know it's not actually a Thunar issue...
[00:11] <metaspike> bonny_ honestly, I thin you're in the wrong place... ask on #jolicloud or thier forum for answers.
[00:11] <tnk1> matthewofencinit, i actually had the same issue with my computers running xub.. and it was getting the wireless backport modules in one that helped, and in the other, i realized the wifi card was just shot
[00:12] <bonny__> metaspike
[00:12] <bonny__> i been on jolicloud channel for 3 hours straight
[00:12] <CrownWheel> And the umount advice did what it was supposed to...
[00:12] <almoxarife> CrownWheel: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gvfs/+bug/212789 <-- there you go, something to get off the fedora fix
[00:12] <mongy> bonny_,  this will help.  http://www.webupd8.org/2011/09/how-to-install-oracle-java-7-jdk-in.html
[00:12] <bonny__> no answer!
[00:12] <CrownWheel> ha.  I'll check it out.
[00:12] <sabocat> OK, I am trying to ndiswrapper to work with my broadcom wifi card. I installed the drivers with ndiswrapper, it says my card is present and the ndiswrapper module is loaded but I don't have wlan0 listed under iwconfig
[00:13] <mongy> sabocat, what mode is your card?
[00:13] <Raliegh> So... Who wants to help me figure out this virtualbox installation?
[00:13] <Raliegh> I get this error at the ende.
[00:13] <Raliegh> http://pastebin.com/pGarAjhE
[00:13] <sabocat> BCM4321
[00:14] <mongy> sabocat, you need the STA driver then
[00:15] <mongy> sudo apt-get install bcmwl-kernel-source
[00:15] <sabocat> mongy: That driver works great for about 60 sec. then I get a kernel panic.
[00:16] <metaspike> mongy;s right.
[00:16] <bobby> hello world
[00:16] <bobby> where are banshee imported music file saved?
[00:16] <Raliegh> Nobody has any idea? Tux, are you still here?
[00:16] <sabocat> metaspike: That driver crashes my system
[00:16] <jimisrvrox2> wes: you still around?
[00:16] <Tux> Yes
[00:16] <Raliegh> Have a few seconds to help me figure this out?
[00:17] <metaspike> eeh.
[00:17] <CrownWheel> almostroot, looks like the 2008 posters in that bug cross-pollinated the Fedora forum I ran across.  So, if there was a bug fix release in Hardy (ubuntu 8.04.01), should I expect to already have it, courtesy of the GVFS package installed from the Ubuntu/Xubuntu repositories?
[00:18] <mongy> sabocat, odd.  it's supported.  remove it and try installing the firmware-b43-installer
[00:18] <Tux> Raliegh, grep "linux-image" /var/log/dpkg.log?
[00:18] <almoxarife> Raliegh: sort of spelled out, you created a dependency with linux-image-generic, that would be the latest image, yet the latest image is not configured, perhaps you need to correct that first
[00:18] <Raliegh> Tux: for a recap, I installed a fresh copy of Ubuntu 11.04 on my server. Installed lxde and tightvncviewer. Trying to get Virtualbox installed and this is my output: http://pastebin.com/pGarAjhE
[00:18] <sabocat> mongy: I did that, and although with it my system sees wlan0 it doesn't see any wifi networks.
[00:18] <Tux> Raliegh, post your full dpkg session
[00:18] <Raliegh> http://pastebin.com/61uJMgWp
[00:19] <Raliegh> That's the output of that grep
[00:19] <Tux> okay.
[00:19] <dlitvak> hi there... im trying to install daily 12.04
[00:19] <mongy> sabocat,  try installing the firmware-b43-lpphy-installer
[00:20] <dlitvak> and for some reason... it is freezing after the 2nd step
[00:20] <Raliegh> Tux: Is that all the info you need?
[00:20] <metaspike> dlitvak, LOL
[00:20] <Tux> Raliegh, hang
[00:20] <ssfdre38> how can i move an 11GB file from my computer to my external HDD and cp doesnt work nor does drag and drop  cause its saying the file is to large
[00:20] <Raliegh> Yessir.
[00:21] <Disori> Hey guys, so I just bought a webcame, iHome MyLife webcam and it works on cheese but I can't seem to get the built-in microphone working. ubuntu 11.10
[00:21] <Disori> ssfdre38: Try compressing it, I suggest 7zip or some other format I can't remember.
[00:21] <dlitvak> anyone having this issue?
[00:21] <SEcki> ssfdre38, what is the exact error message? What is the filesystem on the external drive?
[00:21] <almoxarife> Raliegh: I have a wonderful thought, uninstall linux-image-generic, you stay at the current kernel you are at, and when you decide you want to update then you fix the dependency?
[00:22] <Disori> anyone know how to fix my problem?
[00:22] <Tux> Raliegh, try almoxarife's suggestion but afterwards update-grub
[00:22] <almoxarife> Disori: cheese makes sounf
[00:22] <Raliegh> almoxarife I'm not going to lie, all that was gibberish to me. I know nothing about kernels, nor why I'd have to uninstall anything, nor why I would have to update (or even what to update/how).
[00:22] <Raliegh> Sorry, I'm dead-stupid. Lol.
[00:23] <ssfdre38> SEcki, its just saying File too large and its FAT32 for my work's computer
[00:23] <Disori> almoxarife : It has a build in microphone but it isnt working. I don't think Ubuntu KNOWS that it's both a camera and microphone
[00:24] <Tux> Raliegh, remove linux-image, forcefully remove the half-configured kernel package, run update-grub and leave the system as-is
[00:24] <Disori> ssfdre38 : Like I said, try compressing it. 7zip isn't the best format but I suggest you use it.
[00:24] <Raliegh> "apt-get autoremove linux-image"?
[00:24] <ssfdre38> that is what im trying to do right now
[00:24] <mongy> ssfdre38, fat32 has a 4gb file limit
[00:24] <SEcki> ssfdre38, have a look at split, too
[00:24] <Tux> Raliegh, you'll want "remove" not "autoremove"
[00:25] <Disori> Raliegh : no autoremove, just remove
[00:25] <Raliegh> Don't forget this isn't a local machine Tux, it's a default installation for a server.
[00:25] <Raliegh> So will this disable my ability to log in via SSH?
[00:25] <Tux> No.
[00:25] <almoxarife> Raliegh: I find it hard to believe you don't know about kernels and stuff, you got the 'grep' thing down, you decide, use the kernel(that would be the thing that was running to give you that error(and it was working), or you fix the dependency, to not do a thing you do need to uninstall linux-image-generic
[00:25] <Tux> The openssh server remains installed
[00:26] <Raliegh> KK linux-image removed. How do I remove the "half-configured kernel package"?
[00:26] <SEcki> ssfdre38, man split - you can divide a file into little chunks
[00:26] <Raliegh> almoxarife, I really don't. I'm just following commands given here and on the wonderful spirit of Google.
[00:26] <Raliegh> Though I'm flattered. ;)
[00:26] <Disori> Guys, I may be overlooking something simple, but I'm pretty sure that Ubuntu doesn't recognise my webcam as a microphone/video device. Is there any easy way to make it so it does?
[00:26] <pooltable> ok have xfce working how to add apps to the bottom mac like thing also how to i change web browers to firefox ?
[00:27] <ssfdre38> can i UBS link the 2 linux computers together to send the file from one computer to another?
[00:27] <almoxarife> Disori: the mic for the camera is actually a 'sound' configuration, done in sound preferences, find the hardware choice for the mic and click on it, that's gui though, some people rather get all cli and stuff
[00:27] <pooltable> also change to desktop to another image
[00:27] <galamar> .stats galamar
[00:27] <galamar> does that work in here?
[00:28] <metaspike> Disori, find it in alsamixer, although maybe pauvmixer... anyway. find capture device, enable it.
[00:28] <Raliegh> Tux: How do I remove the "half-configured kernel package"? I removed the linux-image.
[00:28] <metaspike> doesn't ubuntu come with aptitude by default?
[00:28] <rschwab> I have just reinstalled Ubuntu after a crash and want to put in another partition for windows. Gparted seems not to work . Could anyone help me out?
[00:29] <Disori> metaspike : It knows its a camera. I just need to know how to tell ubuntu it's also a microphone. Almoxarife, I think I've got it. Lemme test it out now
[00:29] <Tux> Raliegh, I am not sure of the right --force- option to use but maybe --force-all will help
[00:30] <Raliegh> Tux: command not found. :o
[00:30] <Guest98821> Hi, how can I configure Ubuntu in my VirtualBox so that it shows the Applications tab at the top?
[00:30] <almoxarife> Disori: you would on the normal gui system pick it from the hardware choices found in 'input device' in the 'sound preferences' gui gismo
[00:30] <metaspike> rschwab, you should install windows first, and leave space to install ubuntu on afterwards.
[00:31] <SEcki> I have an usb headset, it also does work. However, when using the gui, I can only chose between headset and normal sound on my laptop - can I have both on at the same time somehow? Can I control which program uses what?
[00:31] <m15k> Hi I after installing grub to my win7 MBR i  only got grub rescue. Every partion I try to ls results in "unknown fileystem"
[00:31] <Tux> Raliegh, pass it to dpkg
[00:31] <metaspike> Guest98821, not entirely sure, you might have to install guest addons.
[00:32] <metaspike> SEcki, you can with ~/.asoundrc   , or with jack
[00:32] <Raliegh> dpkg: error: need an action option "dpk --force-all"? I'm sorry for being such a pain. x.x
[00:33] <Veovis_Muaddib> I took the Ubuntu 11.10 x64 iso, used both UNetbootin and Universal USB Installer to put it on a flash drive (With same results), and tried to install on my ASUS Eee PC 1215b.  Options when booting were default, which told me to insert bootable media, and UEFI, which brought up GRUB2, and both options in GRUB2 (Try and install) blanked out the screen, made the flash drive flash the "ejected" light, and then shut down the computer
[00:33] <Disori> Problem, when I record, I get a ton of noises and really high pitched squeals
[00:33] <metaspike> m15k, how did you install it?   grub-install /dev/sda   ?
[00:33] <m15k> mounted boot partition
[00:34] <almoxarife> Disori: that would be 'feedback' usually means your speakers and mic are too close
[00:34] <m15k> sudo grub-install --root-directory=/mnt /dev/sda
[00:35] <Disori> almoxarife: damn, how far away do they need to be? it'll be a little hard moving my camera..
[00:35] <almoxarife> Disori: lower the mic gain
[00:35] <m15k> metaspike, strange thing is that ls (hd0,msdos1)/ also result in unknown filesystem
[00:35] <bonny__> Metaspike, thanks for the help i guess, i figured out a way to launch it
[00:35] <Disori> almo, I'm not exactly sure what that is.
[00:36] <bonny__>  i just installed minecraft.jar and on terminal i typed
[00:36] <bonny__> java -jar minecraft.jar
[00:36] <bonny__> and it started up :)
[00:36] <almoxarife> Disori: the slider associated with the mic, lower the value
[00:37] <Disori> almoxarife: i get it really quiet but my voice is as quiet too.
[00:38] <metaspike> sudo grub-install --boot-directory=/dev/sda1 /dev/sda     - for instance. sda1 is boot partition, sda is the drive.
[00:38] <Disori> almoxarife: I'm stupid, it doesnt even get my voice. only the annoying sound of whatever..
[00:38] <metaspike> ext3 all the way. :o
[00:40] <m15k> metaspike, I'll give it a try
[00:41] <pooltable> help config xfce
[00:41] <Disori> i turn it up, lots of sounds. i turn it down, no sound gotten from me...
[00:41] <pooltable> man i know i should have not upgrade this suck i want it to look like it did
[00:42] <Disori> hm... theres something interfeerring. i bring it closer to whatever it is(probably my ipod touch or phone and see...
[00:44] <aBound> metaspike, Woot finally got 10.04 lts installed and working with the nvidia driver yet my graphical boot still needs to get fixed. ha
[00:44] <m15k> metaspike, do I need to mount /dev/sda1?
[00:44] <Gnea> aBound: what's going on?
[00:45] <chris12> hi
[00:45] <metaspike> m15k, probably. you should check to see if it actually installed grub to that drive afterwards
[00:46] <metaspike> aBound, chur
[00:46] <aBound> Gnea, Nothing much yesterday just had issues with 10.04 and the nvidia driver fixed now. Minus the aspect of my graphical boot splash somewhat not displaying properly.
[00:46] <m15k> metaspike, I mounted the drive and typed in command
[00:46] <m15k> afterwards I did a restart
[00:46] <m15k> now I got a grub> "shell"
[00:47] <Warp4> so is there a way i can get my cellular broadband connection to work with ubuntu?
[00:47] <Gnea> aBound: did you manipulate the boot arguments at all?
[00:47] <chris12> I am attempting to create an x86 bootable usb drive from the linux iso I just downloaded from an old powerpc mac(the computer for which I want to make the bootdrive is on some admin policy that prevents me from making the drive on that computer)
[00:47] <spanky> is there something i can do, like restore factory default?
[00:47] <Gnea> Warp4: yes
[00:47] <metaspike> m15k, no... you will want a live disc to install grub with.
[00:47] <chris12> Which utility do I need to do this?
[00:47] <spanky> on netbook ubuntu
[00:47] <chris12> also, I'm running a crappy power pc imac g4
[00:47] <aBound> Gnea, Boot arguments?
[00:47] <Warp4> Gnea, got a place with instructions i can use to get that set up?
[00:48] <aBound> Gnea, I think there is a known problem with the graphical boot splash messing up with the nvidia drivers.
[00:48] <m15k> metaspike, ok so I'm back on live cd
[00:48] <Gnea> aBound: yes, when the system boots up, the kernel can be told to perform certain functions via the /boot/grub/grub.cfg file
[00:49] <Gnea> aBound: well, I use nvidia graphics and only had that issue a few times
[00:49] <aBound> Gnea, Ugh I hate messing with that grub file every time I do something messes up. HA!
[00:49] <aBound> Gnea, Does the boot splash show properly for you?
[00:50] <Gnea> !dialup | Warp4
[00:50] <Gnea> Warp4: pretty sure that'll do it... browser is currently updating so I have it off
[00:50] <Gnea> aBound: yes
[00:51] <aBound> Gnea, Do you think this is safe to try? http://www.webupd8.org/2010/10/script-to-fix-ubuntu-plymouth-for.html
[00:51] <Gnea> aBound: sec, lemme get chrome up again
[00:51] <aBound> kk
[00:52] <metaspike> m15k, here's one way to do it :)  lets assume sda1 is boot partition, sda2 is / ... sudo mkdir /mnt/sda1 && sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/sda1 && grub-install --boot-directory /mnt/sda1 /dev/sda
[00:53] <metaspike> sudo mkdir /mnt/sda1 && sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/sda1 && grub-install --boot-directory=/mnt/sda1 /dev/sda
[00:53] <aBound> Looks like a bunch of workarounds here and there messing with Linux. :P
[00:53] <metaspike> sorry ^
[00:54] <chris12> hey
[00:54] <m15k> uuaahhh
[00:54] <chris12> I'm trying to create an x86 bootable usb drive from my powerpc imac g4
[00:54] <chris12> what utility do I need to make this possible(if it even exists)
[00:54] <metaspike> otherwise, seriously. just dont have seperate boot parition, it's a pain in the ...
[00:55] <Gnea> chris12: usb-creator-gtk or unetbootin
[00:55] <chris12> thanks
[00:56] <Gnea> aBound: if I may ask, what method did you use to install the nvidia drivers?
[00:56] <aBound> Gnea, I had to grab the nvidia driver through a PPA. From the website I posted above.
[00:57] <maheanuu> I just recovered from a system lock up and upon rebooting my external usb drive is now telling me that it is read only..   I am using 10.10
[00:57] <aBound> Gnea, It fixed my screen resolution but my boot splash looks like it only appears for about 5 secs and it does look like an ugly resolution is set for it.
[00:59] <metaspike> wow. 11.10 is the default download version?! madness.
[00:59] <maheanuu> I locked up while copying a file to a usb key......  The key had nothing on it as all the old information had either been stored or deleted
[00:59] <aBound> metaspike, HA! the bleeding edge release.
[01:00] <Gnea> aBound: that's one heck of a fix, you could try it, but it's certainly not anything 'official' that I've seen before, so I can't say how well it'll work... from what I can tell, it just manipulates the /etc/default/grub file
[01:00] <aBound> Gnea, I know what you mean it's a hit or miss script.
[01:00] <chris12> Gnea: I was not able to run either of those programs, as I am on a Power PC-based mac, not intel. I am trying to create the usb drive for an x86 machine which I do not have administrator privileges on nor can I run any foreign executables.
[01:01] <Gnea> aBound: it looks like it would do the trick, though
[01:01] <Gnea> chris12: are you able to run a virtual machine?
[01:02] <aBound> Gnea, Only downside is when I was using 11.10 and editing grub files it pretty much sent my login screen to the shack.
[01:02] <aBound> Gnea, Can't say if it's the same.
[01:02] <m15k> metaspike, grub2 seems to work thanks. But boot to ubuntu is not possible: "cannot read the Linux header"
[01:02] <aBound> With 10.04.3 lts.
[01:02] <Gnea> aBound: I've stuck with LTS since 10.04, haven't regretted it
[01:03] <chris12> Gnea: on the computer for which I want to make the bootable? no. The only computer I have access to at this time is the crappy power pc imac g4.
[01:03] <aBound> Gnea, I feel you I switched and I can feel the stability over the other version.
[01:03] <Gnea> chris12: no, the g4. can you run virtualbox on it and install a minimal x86 ubuntu installation?
[01:04] <metaspike> m15k, unless you want to learn the symantics of linux initilization, i suggest a fresh install, no boot partition.
[01:04] <aBound> Gnea, Just to show how unstable 11.10 is I couldn't even change a basic keyboard shortcut for my terminal.
[01:04] <Gnea> aBound: ouch
[01:04] <chris12> Gnea: Oh, I guess I could try that. So basically, just try to run ubuntu on the mac, then download the linux utility for making a bootable usb?
[01:04] <Veovis_Muaddib> Does anyone have an idea why on my UEFI laptop, GRUB2 loads off the Ubuntu installation disk, but all boot options lead to the USB drive going idle and then the machine shutting down?
[01:04] <Gnea> chris12: exactly, and make the usb port available to the virtual instance of ubuntu
[01:05] <metaspike> chris12, is there a command called "usbmount?"
[01:05] <chris12> Gnea: thanks for the idea. I think that should work.
[01:06] <Gnea> chris12: I have no idea if it will, so I am interested to see how well it will work
[01:06] <m15k> metaspike, the problem is that i don't want to touch the win7 env, because its not possible to evert these changes
[01:06] <aBound> Damn, I'll be spending months on end trying to configure Ubuntu.
[01:06] <chris12> metaspike: no there is no usbmount command from terminal.
[01:06] <chris12> Gnea: well, I'll give it a try and I'll let you know if it does. better than searching google endlessly with no avail.
[01:06] <Gnea> aBound: don't feel too bad, I spent a year ripping redhat and slackware apart, reinstalling both at least 20 times before I stopped installing for a couple years
[01:07] <metaspike> m15k, if you install on a seperate parition, the grub chainloader should work (for 10.04 anyway), if windoze is on a seperate drive you could just disconnect it, and use bios to select...
[01:07] <aBound> Gnea, I think I reinstalled Ubuntu about 10 times already.
[01:07] <aBound> ha
[01:07] <metaspike> chris12... is this an old mac?
[01:08] <chris12> yes
[01:08] <chris12> powerpc imac g4 lol
[01:08] <metaspike> like. powerpc ? awesome! does ubuntu actually have an arcitecture release for powerpc anymore?
[01:08] <Gnea> aBound: good, then you're on your way to truly understanding it lol
[01:08] <metaspike> or are you just using i386 or such.
[01:08] <aBound> Gnea, That's the downside with Linux it still requires the terminal. For new users they might get so frustrated that they'll just move to another OS.
[01:08] <Gnea> !ppc
[01:08] <chris12> metaspike: I'm at my grandparent's house so I don't have my desktop pc and I am going to be here for a while so I ant to run linux on the hotel computer
[01:09] <aBound> Gnea, haha
[01:09] <skraps> help free the panel boycott now - https://www.facebook.com/Boycottcpanel
[01:09] <chris12> metaspike: i don't really want to use ubuntu on this computer, just the hotel one haha
[01:09] <aBound> Gnea, I used it about 7 to 8 years ago I just forgot how to work everything.
[01:09] <Gnea> aBound: I don't see that as a downside
[01:09] <metaspike> ah ok cool, I though only debian still supported it. cool. i dunno, use a usbdisk :)
[01:10] <trojanking> hi
[01:10] <aBound> Gnea, Being experienced it won't be a downside but for a newcomer like me getting back into it. I have to continuously ask for help. lol.
[01:10] <chris12> well, worst case I may pay some unsuspecting hotel stranger with a laptop $5 if I can use their pc to install the boot drive...
[01:11] <Gnea> aBound: although, once I got a better GUI going and understood that the kernel, terminal and GUI stood apart from each other and what it was that binded them together, it became easier to solve problems
[01:11] <trojanking> how can i  get email extractor that extract emails from clipboard or file any idea pls for ubuntu?
[01:11] <Gnea> aBound: well, you're on the right path. asking for help is never a bad thing. are you familiar with ubuntuforums.org?
[01:11] <aBound> Gnea, still using gnome 2 or gnome-shell?
[01:12] <maheanuu> Can anyone tell me what would make an external usb drive suddenly become read only???
[01:12] <Gnea> aBound: I went Enlightenment years ago :) use netbook-remix on this netbook
[01:12] <aBound> Gnea, Yes I tried the ubuntuforums but the thing I dislike is waiting for an answer compared to being in here getting a speedier answer to a question.
[01:12] <metaspike> trojanking, grep, cat, if its encoded, just import with its host or export to a readable format
[01:12] <Gnea> aBound: some people in here are on ubuntuforums.org and vice versa
[01:13] <fbdystang> Hi, I am trying to install kubuntu 8.10 but the livecd freezes after "starting ubiquity..." How should I go about fixing this? Is there a boot option that will allow it to install? Thanks
[01:13] <trojanking> metaspike, dont know what is grep cat sorry am new
[01:13] <metaspike> grep /my/email :0
[01:14] <wes> does the synaptic package manager look at a different database than apt-get?  I am trying to remove flash, apt-get lets me purge it okay, but it still shows up in synaptic
[01:14] <aBound> Gnea, Understood.
[01:14] <trojanking> should i type that in terminal?
[01:14] <Gnea> wes: no, it uses the same db
[01:14] <aBound> I agree with those that dislike Unity I don't like how it hides certain aspects of the GUI.
[01:14] <chris12> trojanking: cat pretty much displays the contents of a file
[01:15] <Gnea> wes: make sure you're running synaptic with privelages and that it's going a proper db sync
[01:15] <metaspike> wes,   dpkg-query -l | grep flash   - query dpkg (what handles all packages) and search for "flash"  - in terminal.
[01:15] <chris12> trojanking: grep is a pattern recognition command
[01:15] <chris12> !grep
[01:15] <trojanking> i know the content, of the file, but email@mail.com Joe Blog
[01:16] <trojanking> i want to remove only emails bcos the list is long
[01:16] <trojanking> and its a text file
[01:16] <Gnea> aBound: I don't have anything positive to say about the mentality of those that wrote it, so I tend to just not say anything and not use it at all :-)
[01:16] <chris12> oh give me 1 sec I don't use the commands often, but I'll look it up really quick
[01:16] <fbdystang> Am I asking this in the wrong place?
[01:17] <trojanking> I have a large list containing name and email in a text file and i need a software or a tool to extract all email addresses from the text file... Pls help
[01:17] <aBound> Gnea, Whatever works philosophy. :P
[01:17] <metaspike> fbdystang, that version is really outdated, get a 10.04 kubuntu release for greater satisfaction
[01:18] <Brandon> hey all!!
[01:18] <Gnea> aBound: they did put a lot of time and effort into it, though, and just like gnome it has potential
[01:18] <wes> metaspike: Thanks. Do you know how I can learn how to interpret the first two columns of the dpkg list output?  man page doesn't seem to be helpful
[01:18] <aBound> Gnea, Eventually we'll have to upgrade to a newer version of Ubuntu when they stop supporting the LTS for 10.04.
[01:18] <trojanking> I have a large list containing name and email in a text file and i need a software or a tool to extract all email addresses from the text file... Pls help
[01:18] <Brandon> Someone willing to help out a newbie who is desperate!
[01:18] <m15k> metaspike, I did a little research and found out that the vmzlinuz file is empty in my boot directory
[01:19] <aBound> Gnea, Indeed from what somebody told me forgot his/her name said they were using 12.04 Alpha and Unity was better.
[01:19] <m15k> might this be the problem?
[01:19] <metaspike> wes, they are "dpkg flags"
[01:19] <Gnea> aBound: but we can always choose something other than Unity or Gnome ;) that choice will never go away
[01:20] <fbdystang> metaspike: thanks but it has to be 8.10 for linuxmce, I just don't know why it hangs
[01:20] <Brandon> i think i may have messed up my pc :/
[01:20] <aBound> Gnea, Agree but Ubuntu seems like Unity is becoming more and more integrated into Ubuntu as the standard. Let's just hope Ubuntu doesn't become like you know whom.
[01:20] <ssfdre38> for some reason or somehow i have Gnome and Unity to work side by side
[01:21] <Gnea> aBound: yeah, it would be a shame for the GUI to destroy the basic idea of Ubuntu
[01:21] <mmoebius> !ask|Brandon
[01:22] <Gnea> aBound: did you give that script a whirl yet?
[01:22] <metaspike> fbdystang, neither do I, but I can tell you that it isn't supported anymore
[01:22] <mmoebius> aBound: If you are afraid of unity in ubuntu, consider MINT
[01:23] <gridbag> i really hate the iconbar on the left, where it keeps coming in and out of view. what are others doing with that?
[01:23] <wes> metaspike: perfect, found the info I need.  My flash player plugin is in rF state.  Probably related to the ENOENT during the script, making the dir it wants and trying again
[01:23] <Gnea> mmoebius: are unity coders afraid of other WMs in ubuntu?
[01:23] <wes> flash *installer*, that is
[01:23] <wes> geez, adobe, c'mon!
[01:23] <ssfdre38> gridbag, that happens when you have a full screen
[01:23] <trojanking> I have a large list containing name and email in a text file and i need a software or a tool to extract all email addresses from the text file... Pls help
[01:23] <metaspike> ah... i rekon
[01:23] <Brandon> haha ok well i dual installed 10.4 last night on my pc and i deleted the old partition that my previous linux distro was on. now when i try to turn on my computer i get a grub error saying it can't locate the filesystem. anyways i don't know anything much about that kind of thing. i'm using the live cd right now. can anyone help
[01:23] <aBound> mmoebius, Unity isn't much of an issue for me except for when it's on 11.10.
[01:24] <aBound> Gnea, Not yet probably will do it later in the day.
[01:24] <metaspike> trojanking, i will find a method if you wait patiently :)
[01:24] <Gnea> aBound: okay
[01:24] <mmoebius> Gnea: I don't know, but the unity UI is not what I preffer (hence I am on Xubuntu) ... also, I consifer all of th newer UIs like KDE, Gnome3 and Unity a waste of resources. But Ubuntu is also about look and feel for the masses .... whatever they please
[01:25] <trojanking> metaspike lovely thanks
[01:25] <aBound> Gnea, reason why I might destroy something. lol
[01:25] <wes> *grumble* - can I tell dpkg to just forget a package? I don't really need the 180kb of disk space, I need the package repository in a sane state! :)
[01:26] <mmoebius> I think, the distrowatch graphs discover what people use; "vote with your feet" (by going somewhere else)
[01:26] <Gnea> mmoebius: I agree wholeheartedly.  I like the base Ubuntu system, I prefer the Enlightenment (E17) window manager.  I prefer having the choice to modify it so that it suits my purposes, but I also like how it's "for the masses".
[01:26] <ssfdre38> wes, then do apt-get autoremove
[01:26] <ssfdre38> also apt-get purge
[01:26] <metaspike> trojanking, i hope you arent using this for spambotting or some crud
[01:26] <mmoebius> Gnea: Is there aspecial distro that incorporates enlightement ?
[01:27] <Gnea> mmoebius: but sometimes my vision of what "for the masses" means is different than someone elses interpretation
[01:27] <Gnea> mmoebius: yes, elivecd, it's debian-based
[01:27] <metaspike> trojanking,   cat /myfile.txt | grep [\w-.]+@[\w-.]+     ( look at file, print emails)
[01:27] <airman00> using tcptrack i see theres some socket left open from a perl program( which is closed already). How do I close the socket manually?
[01:27] <RandomDadaDoomDu> hi guys
[01:28] <Gnea> airman00: kill the PID of the process
[01:28] <trojanking> metaspike please where should i type this?
[01:28] <Gnea> airman00: try the PPID
[01:28] <Brandon> hey randon
[01:28] <RandomDadaDoomDu> hey brandon!
[01:28] <airman00> Gnea: how do I know the PID?
[01:28] <Aliv3> hello everyone, help me i'm stuck, I tried to boot into ubuntu and it does nothing my computer just goes blank. so I booted into recovery mode and didn't know what to do so I typed irc found epic5 installed it and now i'm here, what do I do
[01:28] <wes> ssfdre38: interesting - it seems that even purge doesn't pull the package if there is an error in the post-install script
[01:29] <Gnea> airman00: open a terminal and type:  ps axfu
[01:29] <metaspike> trojanking, in terminal... /myfile.txt is just an example that should point to your file, use <tab> for autocompleteion
[01:29] <RandomDadaDoomDu> just need some help in security irc client config
[01:29] <metaspike> wes, you can sudo dpkg -r "packagename"  to forcefully remove a package
[01:29] <samz> how do i create a script that will be the absolutely last script to run in upstart?
[01:29] <Aliv3> anyone help me?
[01:29] <gridbag> where the Preferences... link to configure workspaces to be horizontally, instead of 2x2 ?
[01:30] <samz> or a script that will always run last of all scripts
[01:30] <metaspike> wes, and other things. "man dpkg" for details
[01:30] <RandomDadaDoomDu> and dunno where to go...dunno what to do...
[01:30] <gridbag> and where can I configure the annoyance-bar?
[01:30] <ssfdre38> !ask|Aliv3
[01:30] <maheanuu> I am running 10.10 64 on a Toshiba Laptop..   I just had a lock up while copying a file from an external USB disk to a usb pen drive upon rebooting I can no longer use the USB disk as it is now "Read Only"  How do I reset this to get back to normal??
[01:30] <airman00> Gnea: thanks. I ran it but I can't seem to find the process that relates to my program
[01:30] <Veovis_Muaddib> ssfdre38: He did ask a few seconds before that
[01:30] <RandomDadaDoomDu> and i thought...ubuntu should be my friend
[01:31] <metaspike> Aliv3,  sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get distupgrade   . if your lucky there's a fix for your issue. or just use 10.04 instead.
[01:31] <metaspike> ^ dist-upgrade
[01:31] <Gnea> airman00: find the PID of your tty and check it from there using pstree
[01:31] <Aliv3> metaspike i can't see what you wrote it cut off after 10.04 i
[01:31] <Veovis_Muaddib> Aliv3: 10.04 instead
[01:31] <airman00> Gnea: thanks! gonna try that now :D
[01:31] <mmoebius> maheanuu: Unmount the stick, fsck it and then remount
[01:31] <metaspike> sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade - or use 10.04
[01:32] <Aliv3> sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[01:32] <metaspike> yes...
[01:32] <wes> metaspike: do you have any idea what this error message means? http://pastebin.mozilla.org/1422197
[01:32] <samz> trying to use s3ql to mount a s3 drive, but the mount.s3ql command needs to run as the very last of all. any idea how to create a startup script that always runs last?
[01:32] <mmoebius> maheanuu: Which filesystem is on the stick ?
[01:32] <Aliv3> I'm on the command line sorry i thought if i typed it, how do I switch to a new cmd ( terminal )
[01:32] <metaspike> Aliv3, write it down.
[01:32] <maheanuu> mmoebius, it isnt  the stick it is the hard disk that is locked read only
[01:32] <Aliv3> im in recovery mode, i just wrote it down and thats what you saw
[01:32] <metaspike> or ctrl +c to kill this so it sticks
[01:33] <RandomDadaDoomDu> need to protect my irc security...don't want people to know more than what i want to tell them...who can help me?
[01:33] <Aliv3> ok i might be back in a min
[01:33] <Aliv3> ctrl+c does  nothing
[01:33] <metaspike> ctrl + alt + f5 etc.
[01:33] <Brandon> :)
[01:33] <maheanuu> The stick is the normal dos
[01:33] <Gnea> airman00:  MYTTY=`tty | sed -e 's/\/dev\///g'`
[01:33] <Gnea> ps auxf | grep ${MYTTY}
[01:34] <mmoebius> maheanuu: A harddisk on USB that is read-only ?
[01:34] <Gnea> :-)
[01:34] <wes> man, I can't believe I've been at this for 7 hours now, I should have just listened to you guys and wiped/reinstalled the machine. Who knew a microphone would be so hard to get working!!!
[01:34] <maheanuu> mmoebius, that was meant for you it is just fromatted dos as I do a lot of photo work between windoze and Ubuntu
[01:34]  * wes makes a note to buy his mom a mac next time
[01:34] <Gnea> wes: pulseaudio can be such a pain
[01:35] <maheanuu> mmoebius, exactly...   It was normal before and after a lock up it is now read only
[01:35] <wes> Gnea: tell me about it.  This thing was *great* for surfing, but trying to get a mic working in skype has really screwed up my day
[01:35] <RandomDadaDoomDu> i just needed some help :'(
[01:35] <mmoebius> maheanuu: You will neet to fsck the drive, anyways. try fsck.vfat /dev/...whatever...
[01:35]  * wes curses himself for buying that webcam ;)
[01:35] <RandomDadaDoomDu> whyyyyyyyyy do you hate me so badly?
[01:35] <RandomDadaDoomDu> O.o
[01:35] <Gnea> wes: lol... at least you learn something ;)
[01:35] <Gnea> RandomDadaDoomDu: who hates you?
[01:36] <mmoebius> maheanuu: After the fsck, the drive can be remounted and should be writeable again
[01:36] <wes> Gnea: yeah, but I'm supposed to be not-typing this holiday. arm nerves need a rest after a long coding marathon, right arm is almost useless below elbow ATM. *grr*
[01:36] <trojanking> metspike this is the error i got cat: /myfile.txt: No such file or directory
[01:36] <trojanking> grep: Invalid range end
[01:36] <RandomDadaDoomDu> people that doesn't want to help me protect my irc privacy
[01:36] <RandomDadaDoomDu> :D
[01:36] <Gnea> wes: so tell her you'll get it done later this week. does she have anyone important to talk to on skype?
[01:36] <wes> anybody know a trick for resuming a CD download, BTW?  My last attempt stopped with 12 seconds remaining
[01:36] <almoxarife> wes: http://pastebin.mozilla.org/1422202
[01:37] <Phosphate> In 11.10 is there any way to make terminal work in the Unity launcher like normal apps?
[01:37] <Gnea> RandomDadaDoomDu: you are free to believe what you want to, even if it's wrong. :-)
[01:37] <wes> Gnea: my sister is waiting :)   But later this week, same issue really, I want to get all my computing done up front so I can get a long period of rest of before the 3rd, hoepfully get the inflammation under control again
[01:38] <almoxarife> !ot | wes Gnea
[01:38] <mmoebius> wes: wget -c is your firend for resuming a download
[01:38] <Mistogan> exit
[01:38] <wes> Okay!  I'm going to dig into dpkg and learn how to manually tweak the package repository so I can uninstall flash and finish this upgrade
[01:38] <Gnea> almoxarife: feel free to inject something useful at anytime.
[01:38] <RandomDadaDoomDu> Gnea, Could i believe in you to help me saving my irc privacy?
[01:39] <RandomDadaDoomDu> i don't want to be raped
[01:39] <wes> oh!
[01:39]  * wes notices almoxarife's comment
[01:39] <Gnea> RandomDadaDoomDu: you should ask in #freenode
[01:39] <wes> almoxarife: I'm just trying to remove the flash player so that my package database is in a consistent state and I can dist-upgrade
[01:40] <metaspike> wes install aptitude
[01:40] <wes> (I'm hoping that a dist-upgrade cures my pulse audio woes -- it's certainly overdue anyhow)
[01:40] <metaspike> it is superior to apt-get
[01:40] <RandomDadaDoomDu> thank you mister gneasus
[01:40] <aBound> Will be back here later have a good one ya'll.
[01:40] <RandomDadaDoomDu> i'll gtfo
[01:40] <RandomDadaDoomDu> bye
[01:41] <Crowley2> G'Night :-)
[01:41] <wes> metaspike: Neat! This looks like a cross between the synaptic package manager and the kernel configuration utility from 15 years ago!
[01:41] <metaspike> infact all of you, install 10.04, use aptitude instead. and i swear, 90% of your problems will be solved.
[01:41] <Gnea> wes: I have found that the pulseaudio manager to be of great help
[01:42] <maheanuu> mmoebius, Here's what I got http://paste.ubuntu.com/784152/
[01:42] <gridbag> what's the method for disabling some of the more fancy (slow) animations in compbiz ?
[01:43] <maheanuu> mmoebius, did you see the paste?
[01:43] <hiexpo> gridbag, simple ccsm
[01:43] <xangua> gridbag: with compiz setting manager
[01:43] <wes> Gnea: I was on 9.04 earlier, didn't see anything like that; Am on 9.10 now, hoping to be at 10.4 LTS by end of day
[01:44] <mmoebius> maheanuu: Not so fast :-) I bet you want me not only to sse the paste, but also to read and understand it ?
[01:44] <Gnea> wes: 10.04 is a good place to be at. the chooser can help you get things straightened out as well.
[01:44] <maheanuu> sorry bout that, but it was really short and really didn't tell me anything
[01:44] <hiexpo> hola all
[01:44] <nvz> don't you mean hola todos?
[01:44] <Gnea> hiexpo: ahola!
[01:45] <blocky> I've been having problems getting ethernet working on 11.10 using an nforce chipset (forcedeth) so I'm attempting to reinstall the system, but what I just noticed is that the livecd has connectivity, so is there any way to ensure whatever settings are in use on the livecd are preserved once the system is installed?
[01:45] <nvz> spanglish..
[01:45] <Gnea> er
[01:45] <Gnea> hiexpo: aloha!
[01:45] <hiexpo> merry x-mas Gnea
[01:45] <Gnea> merry x-mas :)
[01:46] <wes> Gnea: *nod* - targetting 10.4 because of both LTS avail and official skype support
[01:47] <hiexpo> 10.04 is best at this point of time i think    but thats just me
[01:47] <mmoebius> maheanuu: Could it be that your hd is partitioned ? can you run fsck.vfat e.g. against /dev/sdb1 ?
[01:48] <metaspike> newer is not always better...
[01:48] <Crowley2> @blocky: The live-system is usually a pretty good prediction what will work and what not. Funny enough it didn't work in Your case :-(((
[01:49] <hiexpo> exactly newer means new not better
[01:49] <radon-> Will 12.04 have the old classic gnome back?
[01:49] <Crowley2> No.
[01:50] <radon-> :/
[01:50] <hiexpo> !spam | GoMittGo
[01:50] <metaspike> ubuntu alternative install lets you choose your DE, but it is such that gnome has moved on.
[01:51] <radon-> well I use gnome-shell and it's pretty much usable but I liked the classic gnome more
[01:51] <radon-> but I think it's better to get used to this...
[01:51] <szal> hiexpo: if you have a complaint about spam, join #ubuntu-ops and tell them there
[01:51] <gridbag> xangua : is compiz part of the default ubuntu install?
[01:51] <scientes> whats that piece of software that makes multi-server stuff easier?
[01:51] <Crowley2> I am back to Debian Squeeze. Will I be banned???!!!
[01:51] <scientes> that deploys virtual machines?
[01:51] <scientes> Crowley2, wheezy is out
[01:52] <Crowley2> Oh.
[01:52] <scientes> oh wait, no it isn'y
[01:52] <maheanuu> mmoebius,  it looks like the 500gig external is working normally now, as I stuck in another pendrive and it now writes to it but the original that was being written to is now telling me that it is read only
[01:52] <szal> Crowley2: you can use whatever you wish as long as you (1) don't talk about it here, and (2) don
[01:52] <scientes> sry
[01:52] <metaspike> Crowley2, im a wheezer, but  idoubt ppl mind me helpin out here where i can
[01:52] <szal> 't brag about how bad *buntu is
[01:52] <Crowley2> Haha, yes.
[01:52] <hiexpo> gridbag, it was at least in 10.04  not sure now but probably so
[01:53] <scientes> Crowley2, in my experience ubuntu produces a more stable core platform, while in debian it is easier to get development version of server software and more recent version of that software
[01:53] <nvz> haha
[01:53] <scientes> however, that if you use sid in ubuntu sparinglingly it is likely to work
[01:53] <nvz> you're seriously confused
[01:54] <scientes> what is that ubuntu software that multiplexes server stuff
[01:54] <mmoebius> maheanuu: I hope you don't swap the drives without unmounting them properly before swapping them ?
[01:54] <scientes> like databases and wordpress and the like with virtual machine creation and such
[01:54] <metaspike> scientes, xen
[01:55] <scientes> metaspike, nonono
[01:55] <scientes> it creates the virtual machine image files
[01:55] <metaspike> qmeu
[01:55] <scientes> nono
[01:55] <maheanuu> mmoebius, No I don't, if it is removed I do it safely or unmount them  the hard disks are all unmounted as they are all running NTFS
[01:55] <mmoebius> Crowley2: There are 3 flavors of Debian: outdated, stale and broken
[01:55] <scientes> there was an earlier product--you could tell it what packages
[01:55] <scientes> and this is a newer version that has alot more features
[01:56] <scientes> and metaspike, that would be virt-manager for end-users these days
[01:56] <scientes> with kvm-qemu
[01:56] <mmoebius> maheanuu: That's good. Because otherwise your "read-only" problems would be very explainable.
[01:56] <metaspike> ah
[01:56] <scientes> but thats not what I want---this is canonical developed software
[01:56] <scientes> basically a big extention to debootstrap
[01:56] <mmoebius> maheanuu: You could look into the last lines of dmesg with 'dmesg | tail' after you attach a device and find it to be read-only.
[01:56] <metaspike> maheanuu, you can edit mount mode in /etc/fstab. if a filesystem needs to be fsck'd it wont mount in rw
[01:57] <szal> does anyone have installed Windows (in particular Win7) after *buntu and can tell me something about how you repaired the Grub?  (and no, I don't want the !grub factoid, I want a 1st-hand experience account ;))
[01:57] <metaspike> szal, yeah, from ubuntu live. sudo grub-install /dev/sda  - fix
[01:57] <mmoebius> maheanuu: Also, if you are sure that the filesystem should be r/w because it is clean, hardware OK etc. you could try 'mount -o remount,rw /path/to/mountpoint'
[01:58] <Crowley2> Somehow I think debian squeeze is the best for now... ans "lucid " deserved it's name :-)
[01:58] <szal> metaspike: no problem booting Win thereafter?
[01:58] <metaspike> szal, i was probably lucky but, it handled everything for me
[01:58] <metaspike> szal, otherwise if you really want, you can select drive with bios
[01:58] <Crowley2> ISorry, no M$ on my system.
[01:58] <scientes> metaspike: https://juju.ubuntu.com/
[01:59] <szal> metaspike: ok, then I should be able to do that by booting into *buntu using a Super GRUB2 Disk & have no problems
[01:59] <maheanuu> mmoebius,  metaspike,  What happened was I was copying an old movie over from my hard disk to a pen drive for the grandkids and I locked up and had to do a hard shutdown as everything was locked, when I came back up the hard drive wouldn't let me copy anything to anywhere
[02:00] <maheanuu> I didn't try to copy to another pen drive until I did the fsck
[02:01] <metaspike> maheanuu, frome that system can you -  sudo touch /forcefsck  ? (force fsck check on boot)
[02:01] <metaspike> ah
[02:01] <maheanuu> on my pen drives I either do a safe removal or a eject
[02:02] <metaspike> sounds bogus to me, maybe under /etc/fstab the options arent rw instead ro but.. duno.
[02:03] <maheanuu> metaspike, none of my external hard disks are set up as boot drives they are all single partition used for storage and backup only
[02:03] <mmoebius> maheanuu: Is you trouble over, now ?
[02:04] <maheanuu> I only had this happen to the WD 500gig drive that I have been using...   I fill them up and then set them aside they are my archives
[02:05] <maheanuu> Looks like it other than the 8 gig pen drive is read only now...   all the other things are working
[02:05] <s7evens> test
[02:05] <mmoebius> maheanuu: After you did the fsck, you will then have to remount the volume. try it. btw, did the fsck.vfat on /dev/sdb1 work ?
[02:06] <maheanuu> mmoebius, how do I clear the RO on the pen drive, the 500gig is running normally
[02:07] <maheanuu> mmoebius,  I followed your advice to the letter and then remounted and tested the HD it is working perfectly, it is only the original 8 gig pen drive that is hung RO now
[02:08] <maheanuu> mmoebius, /dev/sdb is fine now
[02:08] <mmoebius> maheanuu: Which device is the pen drive and which filesystem type ?
[02:09] <michalchik> Hello
[02:09] <maheanuu> mmoebius, on the 8 gig pen drive it is a dos file system not set up for boot I use it for the grand kids stuff, beats CD's DVD's and peanut butter and jelly
[02:09] <michalchik> Is this the right place for a rank beginner with lots of stupid questions?
[02:10] <mmoebius> maheanuu: No, not the contents but the /dev/sd*** device name of the pen drive , please ?
[02:11] <maheanuu> mmoebius, I am digging for that now
[02:11] <mmoebius> michalchik: Usually, it's not the questions that are stupid but the answers. If you can take the latter, go ahead
[02:11] <mmoebius> maheanuu: look at the output of 'mount' (in a terminal)
[02:11] <colton_> how do I access an administrator file through the terminal?
[02:12] <mmoebius> colton_ prepend 'sudo' to whatever command you want to run on your file
[02:12] <metaspike> colton_, sudo geany /filename         <press tab for auto completion>
[02:12]  * metaspike takes a walk.
[02:12] <michalchik> lol
[02:12] <colton_> metaspike Thanks!
[02:13] <zamba> which version of ubuntu do you recommend i run for my home server?
[02:13] <zamba> i'm currently running lucid
[02:13] <michalchik> First, is xchat the irc program I should be using?
[02:13] <zamba> michalchik: weechat is
[02:13] <mmoebius> zamba: lucid
[02:14] <zamba> mmoebius: ok
[02:14] <mmoebius> michalchik: If you are comfortable with xchat, why not ? e.g. I use it :-)
[02:14] <zamba> mmoebius: when should i upgrade? when will the next LTS version appear?
[02:14] <overdub> michaelni: xchat is my choice
[02:14] <Surefire> Hello
[02:15] <Surefire> I was hoping to get some assistance in regards to Ubuntu installation
[02:15] <mmoebius> zamba: 12.04 in april 2012 should become lts again. Then, It may be time to move, if you are missing any features.
[02:15] <maheanuu> mmoebius, it is a W95 FAT32  and is showing as /dev/sdf1
[02:15] <michalchik> if is type sudo apt-get install weechat will that install it or do I have to do something else like find it on some website?
[02:15] <ssfdre38> like what Surefire
[02:15] <Surefire> So I downloaded the 32 bit iso
[02:15] <Surefire> Created a bootable disc
[02:15] <ssfdre38> ok and?
[02:15] <Surefire> Rearranged the bios to cd drive first
[02:16] <Surefire> but now i'm stuck at a black screen
[02:16] <overdub> michaelni: first do apt-cache search yourapp for the correct version
[02:16] <mmoebius> maheanuu: Well, then unmount it on the terminal with 'umount /dev/sdf1' and provided that works ok, run 'fsck.vfat /dev/sdf1' . If that works ok, too, unplug and re-plug the USB-drive
[02:17] <iceroot> michalchik: sudo apt-get install programname   that will install the program
[02:17] <Surefire> it's a brand new hp pavilion g series
[02:17] <Sna4x8> In 11.10 using unity, how do I add an application to the dash?  In 11.04 I could add it using the "Main Menu" application, but it no longer exists in 11.10?
[02:17] <iceroot> michalchik: you can find the exact name for of the program/package with "apt-cache search searchstring"
[02:17] <Surefire> i typically use macs and i'm pretty confident that my disc was properly burned
[02:18] <michalchik> iceroot does that only work if the fileis on your computer or does that automatically searchthe net?
[02:18] <iceroot> michalchik: its all in the net
[02:18] <iceroot> !repos | michalchik
[02:18] <iceroot> michalchik: apt-get is acting on repositories which are stored in the net
[02:19] <bbrelin> Hello all.
[02:19] <mmoebius> Surefire: At the very beginning of booting withth e CD in, do you get a "keyboard" symbol at the bottom of the screen ? If so, press ESC or <Enter> rapidly to enter the boot menu.
[02:19] <iceroot> michalchik: so if you want to install weechat just use "sudo apt-get install weechat" apt-get will download and install "weechat" and all other packages which are needed for weechat
[02:19] <boxbeatsy> hi, i recently installed ubuntu onto my new laptop, but my network card isnt working (wireless or ethernet).  i have a realtek semicond device 8176 and arthers comm ar8152.  does anyone know how i can start troubleshooting this? is it a drivers problem?
[02:19] <bbrelin> I'm having a problem with my Toshiba laptop running 11.10.  I've lost the ability to use the wireless device.
[02:19] <Surefire> mmoebius: gotcha
[02:19] <phong_> hi all
[02:19] <phong_> howdy
[02:19] <phong_> ?
[02:20] <bbrelin> I've been doing research on this, but haven't found a satisfactory answer.
[02:20] <maheanuu> mmoebius,   http://paste.ubuntu.com/784171/
[02:20] <Tux> hi
[02:20] <bbrelin> Anybody else have this problem?
[02:20] <phong_> howdy?
[02:20] <mmoebius> Surefire: In that boot menu, there are some options (on the very rightmost options menu) ou can add to the Kenel commnad line in oder to enable more "compatible" settings
[02:20] <bbrelin> It seems to be Toshiba specific, but I'm not a hundred per cent sure of that.
[02:20] <michalchik> Thanks, i am begining to see how it works
[02:21] <boxbeatsy> also, when i boot into windows both wirleess/and wired works so i'm pretty sure the card itself is functional
[02:21] <mmoebius> maheanuu: You got it !
[02:21] <boxbeatsy> i just don't know where to start with debugging/finding out what driver i need
[02:21] <Surefire> mmoebius: i hit install and now i'm stuck at a black screen
[02:21] <bbrelin> Anybody?
[02:21] <Surefire> should i wait for a few minutes
[02:21] <iceroot> michalchik: so normally you are only using the repos, dont download software directly from websites just use apt-get or the software-center
[02:22] <mmoebius> Surefire: You got the boot menu ?
[02:22] <joshlegs> hmmm. what DVD player actually works ? :S
[02:23] <mmoebius> Surefire: Then, *before* you go to "install" you should enable some boot options. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions#Common_Kernel_Options
[02:23] <Surefire_> mmoebius: sorry for the disconnect
 Surefire: Then, *before* you go to "install" you should enable some boot options. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions#Common_Kernel_Options
[02:24] <mmoebius> Surefire: If unsure, try adding "noapic nolapic nacpi noapm nodma"
[02:24] <androidbruce> hey guys i can't connect to my ubuntu machine from my windows machine
[02:24] <androidbruce> asks for user auth, and no dice
[02:24] <androidbruce> i have samba installed
[02:24] <Surefire_> mmoebius: how do i enable boot options?
[02:25] <androidbruce> i restarted samba, and added the option usershare owner only = false
[02:25] <androidbruce> no dice still
[02:25] <maheanuu> mmoebius,
[02:25] <mmoebius> Surefire: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootParameters
[02:25] <mmoebius> Surefire: Hit "F6" , I guess. There sohuld be a readable menu that gives you a hint on what to do
[02:26] <maheanuu> mmoebius,  I am running like a swiss watch...   Thanks much...  Here in Raiatea I am the sole user of Ubuntu or linux for that matter
[02:26] <arooni-mobile> i have set up key based authentication on a ubuntu 11.10 server.  however; when i try to login with my key.... i get asked for my password.  anyway to determine why this is happening and then solve it?
[02:27] <Surefire> mmoebius: i only see noapic and nolapic
[02:27] <Surefire> i see nodmraid nomodeset
[02:27] <nd456> Can anyone help me add my launcher to unity so it shows up in the search?
[02:28] <mmoebius> maheanuu: Isn't Raiatea a tropical Island ? Be sure of all the envy I can offer you. I sit in a cold winter climate , outside it's stormy and ca. 0 °C .
[02:29] <Surefire> mmoebius: what do i have to lose if i install ubuntu 10 instead of ubuntu 11
[02:29] <mmoebius> Surefire: noapic and nolapic are the "common" options offered in the graphic menu. You should be able to type in the others i mentioned above withthe keyboard
[02:30] <mmoebius> Surefire: Usually, there is no gain in installing older versions. Hardware discovery will be worse for those than for the current versions.
[02:30] <skegeek> Are packages design for "ISP" use actually meant for those providing internet connection service, or any service provided through the internet?
[02:30] <Aliv3> yup i broke ubuntu
[02:31] <mmoebius> Surefire: also there may be any combinations of the flags be needed to get your machine running linux. So playing with the options a little is recommended.
[02:32] <skegeek> eBox and ISPConfig, for example expect to be managing domains, dns, and email, not just hosting alone.
[02:33] <mmoebius> Surefire: Usually, there is no gain in installing older versions. Hardware discovery will be worse for those than for the current versions.
[02:33] <mmoebius> Surefire: also there may be any combinations of the flags be needed to get your machine running linux. So playing with the options a little is recommended.
[02:33] <mmoebius> Surefire: noapic and nolapic are the "common" options offered in the graphic menu. You should be able to type in the others i mentioned above withthe keyboard
[02:33] <gnarr> so.
[02:33] <boxbeatsy> hi, i recently installed ubuntu onto my new laptop, but my network card isnt working (wireless or ethernet).  i have a realtek semicond device 8176 and arthers comm ar8152.  does anyone know how i can start troubleshooting this? is it a drivers problem? (in windows, both cards work)
[02:33] <gnarr> what's the beginner channel?
[02:33] <gnarr> ubuntu-beginner?
[02:34] <mmoebius> gnarr: here
[02:34] <gnarr> i was on beginner or something earlier. a
[02:34] <gnarr> anyway
[02:34] <gnarr> so
[02:35] <gnarr> i had a win7 system taht wouldn't boot at all, not in recovery, not in safe, nothing.   i could boot with ubuntu live
[02:36] <gnarr> i tried to do a clean install of win7 from an install cd and it wouldn't progress past the initial installation startup screen.   while on the phone w/ microsoft their conclusion was that my hard drive wasn't writing properly
[02:36] <gnarr> anyway
[02:36] <gnarr> i just did a full install of ubuntu on the computer, it seems to have installed and is operating normally
[02:36] <gnarr> am i correct to conclude that the hard drive writes just fine then?
[02:38] <mmoebius> boxbeatsy: rtl8176 looks bad http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1658112  ... You could still follow up on the links given in that article and see if new drivers have been released e.. by realtek that cou can compile yourself
[02:39] <mmoebius> boxbeatsy: If totally out of luck, wait a yer until the hardware is more commen and people have a linux driver for it. That's the linuxdownside of really new hardware :-(
[02:39] <Aliv3> gnarr: i'v had that before where windows was dead and ubuntu worked for me
[02:39] <Aliv3> but on my current desktop (one im on right now) ubuntu won't work except in recovery
[02:40] <gnarr> it doesn't really make sense to me
[02:40] <gnarr> not that i'm super tecchie
[02:40] <mmoebius> boxbeatsy: ar8152, try http://askubuntu.com/questions/11015/need-wired-wireless-atheros-driver-for-ar9285-and-ar8152
[02:41] <gnarr> but i can't imagine if i had a hardware issue i would be able to install ubuntu
[02:41] <gnarr> and not win7
[02:41] <mmoebius> gnarr: You could install the package 'smartmontools'
[02:42] <gnarr> what would that do
[02:43] <mmoebius> gnarr: Then you can use smartctl -a /dev/sd....  (put in the right /dev/sd.... whatewver your hd is) to get the S.M.A.R.T. report from your hd. That gives you a lot of "health percentages" . If there is none below 95%, you are fine
[02:43] <hopstafarian> hi all...trying to help a friend...looking to use an external dvd drive, in a wine application but not reading...ubuntu is picking it up though..i think it's a mounting problem (wrong type or such (iso9660?))..is mounting as /media/floppy linked to floppy0?
[02:44] <mmoebius> gnarr: of yourse you will want to run 'sudo smartctl -a /dev/sd...'
[02:45] <bandit22> can anybody tell how to delete a specific file type from a folder
[02:45] <psusi> hopstafarian, floppy is not dvd
[02:45] <knightrage> hey guys... i've got a question. if i write to /proc/<pid>/mem, is that effectively writing to the process's memory that it allocates? ie, if i have a process that does a malloc(), and i edit the /proc/pid/mem, will any access to that memory address within that process use the new data i wrote? sorry if i'm completely way off base here.
[02:46] <hopstafarian> psusi, that's what i was thinking...should test by umount'ing, and force cdrom0 with an iso9660 type ?
[02:47] <bandit22> actually delete all of a specific file type from a folder
[02:47] <psusi> hopstafarian, test what?  if you have the floppy mounted, then you have a floppy, not a dvd, mounted
[02:48] <mmoebius> gnarr: I was wrong about the "percentages" ... true is: There will be two columns of "WORST" and "THRESH" ... as long as the "WORST" value is a fair bit away from "THRESH", your drive should be ok.
[02:48]  * psusi slays all floppy drives with a sword of +10 they suck and need to have died off 20 years ago
[02:48] <mmoebius> gnarr: particularly, look at Value no. 5 "Reallocated_Sector_Ct" . This should be 0 and No 197 "Current_Pending_Sector" . This should be 0 , too
[02:48] <hopstafarian> psusi, no,no..sorry...no floppy...netbook...but is mounting in as "floppy" linked to "floppy0", when navigate there, can see the audio & video TS files,,
[02:49] <gnarr> mmoebius, i will go that route if needed.    i'm back on the phone w/ microsoft because i can progress into the install now, except i can't install win7 on a partition because it's not NTFS formatted (presumably because ubuntu is on it)
[02:49] <gnarr> so gonna have them walk me through stuff.    if they give me some runaround i'll boot ubuntu back up and check my drives
[02:50] <psusi> hopstafarian, can you be more specific?  what do you mean "is mounting in as floppy?
[02:50] <gnarr> i've been working on this for like 12 hrs today, haha.
[02:50] <gnarr> but i've learned quite a bit.   fun
[02:50] <hopstafarian> psusi, and access those files natively, but the wine app. doesn't detect a drive at all (though can see those file in /media/floppy/)
[02:50] <mmoebius> hopstafarian: If you see audio/video TS-Files, the drive works ok and is reading your disk. Maybe your application is not really looking for the drive where it was mounted ?
[02:50] <hopstafarian> mmoebius, meaning wine is not mapped properly?
[02:51] <ssfdre38> hey how can i change Apache/2.2.20 (Ubuntu) Server at source.ssfdre38.com Port 80 at the bottom of source.ssfdre38.com
[02:51] <mmoebius> hopstafarian: Admittedly, mounting a DVD on /media/floppy (assumed) is a bit weird, but there is no default in Linux for where to mount what
[02:51] <mmoebius> hopstafarian: Wine can be misconfigured. Why not ?
[02:51] <marz> I can't connect to the Internet using Ubuntu via a mobile broadband
[02:52] <mmoebius> hopstafarian: run 'winecfg' Section "Drives" :-)
[02:53] <hopstafarian> psusi, if i navigate to /media/floppy...i can see and access the audio/video TS files...in ubuntu...but no other dirs. in the /media folder, and wine doesn't detect and cd/dvd drives
[02:53] <mmoebius> hopstafarian: I hope, your windows app does not request direct access to the underlying hardware like e.g. a DVD-Recorder tool would
[02:54] <hopstafarian> mmoebius, i have already run this same app on my machines, and when setting the os for that app in wine to win nt4...detects the drive just fine..so maybe the mapping?
[02:54] <psusi> hopstafarian, what does mount or df say is in /media/floppy?
[02:54] <marz> can anyone help me with configuring Ubuntu to connect to the Internet via a mobile broadband
[02:54] <hopstafarian> mmoebius, it should only have to read...no recording necessary
[02:55] <mmoebius> hopstafarian: Sorry, end of my knowledge
[02:55] <joshlegs> grr. i can't get my new Capt. America DVD to play in Movie Player or VLC :(
[02:55] <hopstafarian> mmoebius, which is the same as the drives tab in the gui?
[02:55] <joshlegs> are there some default configurations that I might have missed ?
[02:55] <hopstafarian> mmoebius, no worries..mine ended way b4 that...thanks for taking the time...
[02:56] <mmoebius> See y'all later. Bye.
[02:57] <hopstafarian> psusi, don't know, and don't have immediate access to that computer...i'd have to get back...but fstab was reading (hope i remember this correctly)..."/dev/sdc0     /media/floppy   auto  rw, utf-8, something, something     0  0"
[02:57] <sumosu> joshlegs: do other movie dvds work?
[02:59] <psusi> hopstafarian, you misconfigured your /etc/fstab then
[02:59] <psusi> hopstafarian, it shoulnd't be referencing any specific devices like that... need to remove that line
[02:59] <hopstafarian> psusi, nobody touched it...that was already in there...
[03:00] <psusi> hopstafarian, someone did... the only entry in there in a default install should be for the internal hard drive, and refering to that using the UUID
[03:00] <ssfdre38> joshlegs, sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[03:00] <hopstafarian> psusi, i did remove that line, and then it did show up in /media as DVDRom or DVDDrive....
[03:00] <hopstafarian> psusi, but wine still wouldn't pick it up...
[03:02] <joshlegs> sumosu no another dvd i tried didn't work. i'm trying ssfdre38 's suggestion now. forgot to do that after my most recent ubuntu install :P
[03:02] <ssfdre38> its just cause copyrighted DVD are restricted untill you get that
[03:02] <joshlegs> ohhhh i see
[03:04] <zabomber> how do you view all 4 sworkspaces in ubuntu 11.10?
[03:04] <joshlegs> at the same time ? :S
[03:05] <blocky> what does it mean if my ethernet connection is going up and down constantly? dmesg shows via-rhine eth1: link up, link down, over and over
[03:05] <gridbag> zabomber, There's a "Workspace Switcher" over on the left unity annoyance-bar.
[03:05] <e10byagrue> quick question, does anyone know how to change window managers?
[03:05] <gridbag> zabomber, I still can't figure out how to get the 4 workspaces horizontally in a single row, like I had before the re-install.
[03:08] <com64> Does anyone know if the hibernation issues have been solved in Oneiric for laptop users yet?
[03:08] <com64> *fixed
[03:09] <ssfdre38> i use it and it works just fine
[03:18] <gridbag> woah. setting the Launcher icon size from 48 to 32 is much better.
[03:19] <gnarr> hi
[03:19] <hopstafarian> gridbag, here, here..
[03:20] <com64> I played terraria today.
[03:20] <gridbag> hopstafarian, id still like to see the whole think on the bottom like the default osx behavior, though.  I always want my windows to go to the horizontal edges.
[03:20] <com64> Interesting game.
[03:20]  * edbian likes all his OS stuff at the top
[03:21] <subb1> hello everyone, happy holidays!!
[03:21] <gridbag> hopstafarian, I'm going to try HideLauncher=Never for a while. I really cannot deal with that peek-a-boo animation every time I switch workspaces.
[03:22] <gridbag> hopstafarian, Like when you are about to click a button, and this bar swoops in and makes you click something else.
[03:23] <subb1> I use Ubuntu 10.04, radeon 4350 256M card, 1G ram.  I have not installed the amd proprietary driver or fglrx driver, but still able to play hd videos.  How can I know which driver my system is currently using?
[03:23] <edbian> subb1, fglrx is the proprietary driver
[03:24] <edbian> subb1, switch by installing the package 'fglrx' and uninstalling the package 'xorg-server-video-ati'
[03:24] <edbian> subb1, I think that's the name of the second one...
[03:24] <edbian> you could search it
[03:25] <subb1> edbian: thats the funny part. When i install fglrx, the  hd video play is buggy and flickering !!!
[03:25] <adfjsafjasafdsf> aah, so many people quit
[03:26] <subb1> edbian: so i guess my system is  using just 'xorg-server-video-ati' driver for graphics ?
[03:26] <szal> subb1: lspci -vv
[03:27] <edbian> subb1, It's called radeon (yes run sudo lspci -k )
[03:27] <szal> or that, yes
[03:28] <snowy-owl> Anybody using a micro cruz tablet? interested in buying one
[03:28] <szal> snowy-owl: please discuss buying decisions in one of the -offtopic channels :)
[03:28] <subb1> edbian: shall i paste the result in pastebin?
[03:28] <edbian> subb1, sure, or read yourself :)
[03:29] <subb1> edbian: http://pastebin.com/VtuzJCHh
[03:31] <subb1> edbian: I see the section 'VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies' and it says ---- Kernel driver in use: radeon
[03:31] <ssfdre38> is there a apt list i can get?
[03:31] <edbian> subb1, Yeah, ur using the open source radon
[03:31] <edbian> radeon*
[03:32] <subb1> edbian: okay. is this the driver maintained by the Ubuntu team for radeon cards?
[03:32] <edbian> subb1, ummmm, I don't think it's ubuntu devs only
[03:32] <greedo> I'm trying to launch eclipse in 11.10 and I keep getting a Window X error
[03:32] <edbian> subb1, ask in #radeon :)
[03:33] <greedo> http://paste.ubuntu.com/784208/
[03:33] <subb1> edbian: i am asking because,  if its not fglrx or the driver from ati site, then how do i upgrade this current driver?  ok. thanks for the radeon channel info :)
[03:33] <gridbag> i can't believe evolution & thunderbird and banshee are part of the default distro, but ccsm is not. I blew thru much of this month's bandwidth today because I had to reinstall/download 247 packages over and over again.l
[03:34] <edbian> subb1, that driver is 'up do date'
[03:34] <greedo> also I can't seem to login to launchpad.net
[03:35] <edbian> subb1, if you want fglrx (which is the same driver that's on the ati site I prom) then just install that package
[03:35] <gridbag> "Disable Animations" is awesome too. The system appears much quicker without all those extra animation delays.
[03:35] <greedo> I keep getting "Your page was stale."
[03:35] <edbian> subb1, However, the fglrx on the site might be slightly newer (and have slightly more bugs) than the fglrx in the ubuntu repos
[03:35] <aBound> gridbag, I prefer thunderbird. :P
[03:35] <edbian> subb1, I prefer radeon myself
[03:35] <edbian> subb1, fglrx gives better performance I think (especially when you do multi-core programming)
[03:35] <gridbag> aBound, yeah, but you don't need 2, which is what you get when you install, then update.
[03:35] <edbian> subb1, but radeon is more stable on linux
[03:36] <aBound> gridbag, You can always remove one of them from the Ubuntu Software Center. :P
[03:36] <Diranged> hey quick question.. im trying to compile a kernel module with module-assistant.. it works great on a 32bit machine, but on a 64bit machine it looks for asm/asm-offset.h (kernel headers) for a 32bit box..
[03:36] <Diranged> any idea what i might be doing wrong?
[03:37] <gridbag> aBound, I mean you don't need to "download" it twice. its in the .iso, but also in the list of packages needed to updated immediately.
[03:37] <aBound> gridbag, Ubuntu 11.10 is more on the bleeding edge tends to be unstable at the time.
[03:37] <aBound> gridbag, Could of been an update.
[03:38] <gnarr> hi
[03:38] <gnarr> i had ubuntu installed on this computer
[03:38] <CaucusMan> Mitt Romney has experience fixing problems! When Mitt was elected Governor of Massachusetts in 2002, the state was in severe disarray, its budget was out of balance, spending was soaring, and taxpayers were being required to pay more and more in taxes for diminishing services. The state economy was in a tailspin, with businesses cutting back on investment or even closing and unemployment ticking up. Mitt made hard decisions that brought state spe
[03:38] <CaucusMan> nding under control. He restructured and consolidated government programs, paring back where necessary and finding efficiencies throughout. Vote Mitt Romney 2012! http://www.mittromney.com
[03:38] <FloodBot1> CaucusMan: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:38] <aBound> gridbag, Once 12.04 LTS is released it'll be better in given time.
[03:38] <subb1> edbian: ok ... since i am a rookie, i may be wrong. I was under the impression that fglrx and driver from ati site are different.   (i )  when I type in >> apt-get install fglrx  it prompts of using 76M of space.  (ii) the driver i got from amd site is 92M size.  I had tried installing both. They give diff performance.
[03:38] <gnarr> am trying to install windows7 over it (yeah yeah)
[03:38] <gnarr> can't beacuse file system isn't NTSB
[03:39] <gnarr> deleted the partition have unallocated space
[03:39] <greedo> someone kick CaucusMan
[03:39] <greedo> it's a bot
[03:39] <UbuntuNuebie> I'm setting up a new laptop with Ubuntu 11.10 for my girlfriend. I'm having some issues with the backlight though. I'm used to Fedora and have tried the acpi_backlight=vendor and acpi_osi=Linux fix that is usually required by it. Before I put that in any attempt to change backlight would freeze the computer, now I can change it fine from the control panel but the Fn hotkeys always set the glow to the backlight to it's lowest setting
[03:39] <UbuntuNuebie>  (off). Any common ubuntu fixes I might have missed?
[03:39] <gnarr> now I am looking at a grub rescue command prompt when i try to boot from the install disk
[03:39] <gnarr> no idea how to proceed from here
[03:40] <subb1> (i) fglrx is poor in playing hd videos   (ii)  the 92M driver when install makes available the radeon catalyst control panel ..........  So both of them are different right?
[03:41] <szal> CaucusMan: apart from this being off-topic here, you gotta be kidding..
[03:41] <aBound> Fook firefox keeps crashing on downloading links.
[03:42] <subb1> edbian: (i) fglrx is poor in playing hd videos   (ii)  the 92M driver when install makes available the radeon catalyst control panel ..........  So both of them are different right?
[03:44] <UbuntuNuebie> I'm setting up a new laptop with Ubuntu 11.10 for my girlfriend. I'm having some issues with the backlight though. I'm used to Fedora and have tried the acpi_backlight=vendor and acpi_osi=Linux fix that is usually required by it. Before I put that in, any attempt to change backlight would freeze the computer, now I can change it fine from the control panel but the Fn hotkeys always set the backlight to it's lowest setting (off).All
[03:44] <UbuntuNuebie> other hotkeys and acpi settings work fine. It's an intel mobile 4 VGA controller and some intel mb not sure which. Any common ubuntu fixes I might have missed?
[03:44] <Infinite8> 1st timer installing an Ubuntu Server installation.  11.04 amd64 and am getting the "Error Probing SMB1"  and then black screen.  Please help.
[03:45] <UbuntuNuebie> SMB is a samba share isn't it? Are you trying to load the ubuntu from an NTFS partition or something?
[03:46] <UbuntuNuebie> nvm
[03:46] <Infinite8> Naw, it's also states about nforce2
[03:47] <Infinite8> nforce2 0000:00:0a.1 Error Probing SMB1
[03:48] <rod_> hi so..
[03:48] <UbuntuNuebie> infinite: is this your problem? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/575296
[03:48] <wwb> hi
[03:48] <Infinite8> I'v Googled the hell out of this issue and haven't come across a solution
[03:48] <rod_> i lyke  trains!
[03:48] <wwb> i can't install VMware machine
[03:49] <rod_> :) U Smile!
[03:49] <cristobal> Anybody knows what to do when ubuntu do not recognize the USB Thumb Drive?
[03:49] <rod_> Heyio
[03:49] <UbuntuNuebie> cristobal what format is the USB drive?
[03:49] <wwb> what can i do for this condition
[03:49] <Infinite8> ubottu help
[03:49] <cristobal> Fat  32 and i use ubuntu 11.10
[03:49] <Infinite8> ubutto help error probing smb1
[03:50] <UbuntuNuebie> Is it USB 3.0 drive or 2.0?
[03:50] <Infinite8> ubutto error probing smb1
[03:50] <UbuntuNuebie> I know linux still has some issues with 3.0
[03:50] <cristobal> 2.0 from the laptop Asus G73JH A1
[03:51] <UbuntuNuebie> Haha, that's my normal laptop. I'm not sure why it wouldn't detect it. Have you tried detecting other usb drives?
[03:52] <cristobal> No, but still its getting on my nervs when you have something to do and just do not work :P may be its a bug on the mount and unmount system>?
[03:52] <cristobal> because we usually do not utilize he safely remove LOL ?
[03:53] <subb1> any clue guys?
[03:54] <rypervenche> cristobal: That could do it.
[03:54] <rod_> hi.........
[03:55] <Prodego> hi
[03:55] <rod_> Ohhhhhhh Facebook!
[03:55] <rod_> Here I Go!
[03:55] <szal> what the..
[03:55] <Infinite8> [  5.170271] nforce2_smbus 0000:00:0a.1:  Error Probing SMB1
[03:55] <rod_> *Goes On Facebook*
[03:56] <em> does ubuntu come with jdk in it?
[03:56] <UbuntuNuebie> I'm setting up a new laptop with Ubuntu 11.10 for my girlfriend. I'm having some issues with the backlight though. I'm used to Fedora and have tried the acpi_backlight=vendor and acpi_osi=Linux fix that is usually required by it. Before I put that in, any attempt to change backlight would freeze the computer, now I can change it fine from the control panel but the Fn hotkeys always set the backlight to it's lowest setting (off).All
[03:56] <UbuntuNuebie> other hotkeys and acpi settings work fine. It's an intel mobile 4 VGA controller and some intel mb not sure which. Any common ubuntu fixes I might have missed?
[03:56] <szal> !java | em
[03:56] <somsip> em: no - need to add
[03:56] <rod_> Bye................
[03:56] <rod_> Jk......(Just Kiddin')
[03:57] <cristobal> ryperenche how to reset it or something ?
[03:57] <szal> rod_: stop the off-topic spam please
[03:58] <rod_> .......Ubuntu
[03:58] <rod_> Gunna Go Now.......
[03:58] <rod_> Bye ......Ubuntu......
[03:59] <UbuntuNuebie> cristobal: get gparted and reformat the drive. If it's got too many corrupt sectors from being pulled out while data's being written it might be garbage though.
[03:59] <rod_> ImAA Leavinnnnnnnn
[03:59] <mohamedtouj> mohamedtouj
[03:59] <szal> rod_: try /quit
[03:59] <rod_> KayKay
[03:59] <UbuntuNuebie> I'm setting up a new laptop with Ubuntu 11.10 for my girlfriend. I'm having some issues with the backlight though. I'm used to Fedora and have tried the acpi_backlight=vendor and acpi_osi=Linux fix that is usually required by it. Before I put that in, any attempt to change backlight would freeze the computer, now I can change it fine from the control panel but the Fn hotkeys always set the backlight to it's lowest setting (off).All
[03:59] <UbuntuNuebie> other hotkeys and acpi settings work fine. It's an intel mobile 4 VGA controller and some intel mb not sure which. Any common ubuntu fixes I might have missed?
[03:59] <mohamedtouj> how can i change the wallpaper at Lubuntu
[03:59] <szal> !repeat | UbuntuNuebie
[04:00] <cristobal> :( i must try with windows first then i have lots of pictures from family history here still do you know how i can possibly put the lilo or grub to open when windows start ? i cant acess it since install ubuntu on my seccond hdd on this G73jh laptop
[04:00] <multipass|2> what is the last official gnome2 release? was it 10.10?
[04:01] <cristobal> 11.10
[04:01] <trism> multipass|2: 11.04 had gnome 2 as well, 11.10 was the first with gnome 3
[04:01] <UbuntuNuebie> I'm sorry. I'm trying to keep at least 5 minutes between my repeats. I already spent 3 hours checking the documentation, google, and the forums. I considered making a forum post but just wanted to see if anyone had some common solutions I might have missed first.
[04:03] <UbuntuNuebie> Cristobal: hit del when you boot to access your bios menu, then go to the boot options and set your other HDD first temporarily.
[04:03] <multipass|2> so if i get 11.04, and use ubuntu classic, it will work correct as 11.04 did? or does unity break some things
[04:03] <cristobal> did not work i need to try to set the boot partition for windows
[04:03] <szal> !classic | multipass|2
[04:05] <n2diy> !nounity
[04:06] <ZekeS> !classic
[04:06] <ZekeS> derp
[04:06] <JohnMullins> what would you do now if everything in the system was perfectly debugged and just worked?
[04:07] <JohnMullins> you know, as in case of something like a commercial extremely well debugged ubuntu, what would you do with the free time?
[04:08] <YNkciyzSF> and a happy new year
[04:08] <aromu> writing a productive code, i suppose
[04:09] <UbuntuNuebie> cristobal: enter the following in the grub prompt (replace hdx,x with your windows hard drive partition):root(hd0,0)
[04:09] <UbuntuNuebie> makeactive
[04:09] <UbuntuNuebie> chainloader + 1
[04:09] <UbuntuNuebie> boot
[04:09] <UbuntuNuebie> oops. Sent it before it was finished
[04:09] <szal> "+1", not "+ 1"
[04:09] <UbuntuNuebie> sure you can figure it out
[04:09] <JohnMullins> aromu, interesting, there is only one person who can see any benefit whatsoever :)
[04:10] <n2diy> I just upgraded from Xubuntu 10.10 to Ubuntu 11.10 here on my test box. My main box is still running Xubuntu 10.10 until I get the bugs worked out here. The first thing I did was install gnome-shell, as I didn't care for unitty.
[04:10] <cristobal> also had try that :P the thing is i think the MBR is bad any other way to tell grub go to this /windows part?
[04:10] <n2diy> And I only have two menus in my panel, Apps. and Places, should there be a System menu too?
[04:11] <UbuntuNuebie> cristobal: if the windows loader is missing you cannot load windows
[04:11] <cristobal> so... i get it i screw it up (@_@) wa.... i go crazy
[04:12] <cristobal> how to do unmount for the usb thumb drive?
[04:12] <cristobal> to see if the operation is stuck on the system ?
[04:12] <cristobal> unmount  balblabal?
[04:13] <n2diy> cristobal: umount /dev/XXXX, where XXXX is your usb drive.
[04:13] <cristobal> if is not recognized ?
[04:13] <cristobal> i just want to do a clear
[04:13] <tucemiux_l> how do you delete a printer? or how do you login as admin to cups?
[04:14] <n2diy> cristobal: what doesn't recognize it?
[04:14] <UbuntuNuebie> cristobal: go to terminal, type mount. Look for your drive. If it is not mounted you do not need to unmount
[04:15] <UbuntuNuebie> It would mount as /media/USBNAME on /dev/sdx where x is 1-9
[04:16] <UbuntuNuebie> Usually the last option for usb
[04:16] <cristobal> :S
[04:16] <UbuntuNuebie> Did you find it?
[04:16] <cristobal> it just recognized now ubuntu its on its period today hahaha
[04:16] <cristobal> thanks for the help anyway
[04:16] <cristobal> :)
[04:16] <cristobal> appreciated
[04:18] <UbuntuNuebie> I'm setting up a new laptop with Ubuntu 11.10 for my girlfriend. I'm having some issues with the backlight though. I'm used to Fedora and have tried the acpi_backlight=vendor and acpi_osi=Linux fix that is usually required by it. Before I put that in, any attempt to change backlight would freeze the computer, now I can change it fine from the control panel but the Fn hotkeys always set the backlight to it's lowest setting (off).All
[04:18] <UbuntuNuebie> other hotkeys and acpi settings work fine. It's an intel mobile 4 VGA controller and some intel mb not sure which. Any common ubuntu fixes I might have missed?
[04:18] <aBound> Hey does anybody know if gnome-shell is stable enough compared to unity?
[04:19] <UbuntuNuebie> I know gnome-shell is really stable on fedora, I'm not sure about ubuntu as I havn't tried it.
[04:19] <UbuntuNuebie> I honestly prefer it.
[04:19] <Charybdis> I tried, but I just couldn't use Gnome Shell.
[04:20] <aBound> Seeing as unity is unstable at the moment figures if it'll make 11.10 stable enough as a gui.
[04:20] <Charybdis> I'm not talking smack about it, but until they work out some more kinks, I'll stay with XFCE.
[04:20] <felipe_Brz> my pc is heating up a little more strongly than usual... could it be because I have many instances of chrome open, each with many tabs open?
[04:21] <aBound> Amazes I switch to 10.04 and Firefox 9.0.1 constantly crashes on download links and I use 11.10 and unity goes crazy.
[04:21] <blocky> of the two new ones, I prefer gnome-shell
[04:21] <motocoder> Hello all
[04:21] <UbuntuNuebie> felipe more cpu usage = more heat
[04:21] <motocoder> felipe_Brz: Check if you have any Flash running in any of those chrome windows
[04:21] <motocoder> Flash is a big fat pig that consumes CPU like crazy
[04:22] <motocoder> I just installed Ubuntu server to replace Windows Home Server on a machine at home - I'd like to use some sort of web-based administration to simplify things
[04:22] <aBound> motocoder, Agreed.
[04:22] <motocoder> I got around to looking into Webmin, and saw that it wasn't recommended for Ubuntu
[04:22] <aBound> About to reinstall 11.10 and try to replace it with gnome-shell.
[04:22] <UbuntuNuebie> motocoder: why not use ssh?
[04:22] <motocoder> I have used SSH to do some basic set up (like DNS, DHCP server, and DDNS)
[04:23] <n2diy> I installed synaptic with apt-get, but it won't work, here is the error message: (synaptic:1984): Gtk-WARNING **: Unable to locate theme engine in module_path: "pixmap",
[04:23] <n2diy> terminate called after throwing an instance of 'std::out_of_range'
[04:23] <n2diy>   what():  vector::_M_range_check
[04:23] <motocoder> But It hink webmin or something like it is vastly simpler
[04:23] <motocoder> Anyway, is ebox worth it?
[04:23] <blocky> anyone able to help me troubleshoot my ethernet card on 11.10, dmesg is showing link up, link down over and over
[04:24] <felipe_Brz> damn compiz is taking 100% on 3 of my processors
[04:24] <motocoder> blocky: Sure you don't have a bad network cable?
[04:24] <UbuntuNuebie> moto: ebox as in the dna sequencer, or ebox as in zentyal?
[04:24] <motocoder> ebox as in zentyal
[04:25] <UbuntuNuebie> not a clue, sorry.
[04:25] <aBound> Isn't ebox a framework for web servers?
[04:25] <UbuntuNuebie> yeah
[04:25] <motocoder> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/eBox
[04:25] <blocky> motocoder, no, that's definitely possible
[04:25] <UbuntuNuebie> it's also the name of a dna sequencer, and the framework's been renamed to zentyal
[04:25] <Octane> if im trying to open a shared win7 drive on unity do i have to install smb server?
[04:26] <motocoder> Octane: Should be able to open windows shares with just the smb mount stuff - not the whole samba server
[04:26] <UbuntuNuebie> Octane: Short answer yes. Long answer: there are some other methods but they're not worth the effort.
[04:26] <Octane> motocoder thanks mate
[04:26] <motocoder> Maybe i should have gone with another distro? I have been in Windows land for so many years...
[04:26] <Octane> okay u two just contridctedeach other lol
[04:27] <UbuntuNuebie> Samba client, not samba server.
[04:27] <motocoder> Right, Samba client
[04:27] <Octane> righto
[04:27] <motocoder> But not the server
[04:27] <Octane> cheers
[04:28] <UbuntuNuebie> I'm setting up a new laptop with Ubuntu 11.10 for my girlfriend. I'm having some issues with the backlight though. I'm used to Fedora and have tried the acpi_backlight=vendor and acpi_osi=Linux fix that is usually required by it. Before I put that in, any attempt to change backlight would freeze the computer, now I can change it fine from the control panel but the Fn hotkeys always set the backlight to it's lowest setting (off).All
[04:28] <UbuntuNuebie> other hotkeys and acpi settings work fine. It's an intel mobile 4 VGA controller and some intel mb not sure which. Any common ubuntu fixes I might have missed?
[04:28] <aBound> I'ma go crazy and install 12.04 Alpha 1.
[04:28] <felipe_Brz> motocoder: it was compiz that was sucking my cpu... 100% on 3 processors...
[04:28] <felipe_Brz> no idea why
[04:29] <motocoder> Glad you figured it out, felipe_Brz
[04:30] <motocoder> Anyway - I appreciate if anyone familiar with web-based admin tools can make a recommendation
[04:30] <motocoder> the server will be used for DHCP, DNS, Samba file sharing, Greyhole, and DLNA server
[04:32] <gridbag> what's the way to get the borders on windows more pixels wide, so they are easier to drag?
[04:33] <hopstafarian> wCHRROME
[04:34] <Xeon3D> gridbag you have to edit some theme file ...
[04:35] <ralbert> anyone in here using aircrack with oneiric?
[04:37] <aBound> ralbert, Cracking WEPs? :P ha
[04:37] <n2diy_> I installed synaptic with apt-get, and it is throwing me this error when I start it:  (synaptic:1984): Gtk-WARNING **: Unable to locate theme engine in module_path: "pixmap",
[04:37] <n2diy_>  terminate called after throwing an instance of 'std::out_of_range'
[04:37] <n2diy_>    what():  vector::_M_range_check
[04:38] <Diranged> anyone know whats going on with this module compile? http://pastie.org/3077840
[04:39] <aBound> n2diy_, Have you tried this command yet? sudo apt-get install gtk2-engines-pixbuf
[04:40] <n2diy_> aBound, no, haven't tried that, let me give it a go.
[04:41] <aBound> kk
[04:42] <n2diy_> aBound,  tried that, some error, but I can't updatedb either, maybe I should restart?
[04:42] <JackyAlcine> ping EvilResistance
[04:42] <n2diy_> some/same
[04:43] <aBound> n2diy_, You can try restarting.
[04:43] <geoffmcc> n2diy_: its just a warning. shouldnt be causing you issues
[04:43] <Infinite8> [  5.170271] nforce2_smbus 0000:00:0a.1:  Error Probing SMB1
[04:43] <n2diy_> geoffmcc, synaptic crashes on that error!
[04:43] <Infinite8> Any solution?
[04:44] <n2diy_> let me restart, brb
[04:47] <pooky> In evolution, how canI change the hilight color of mispelled words?
[04:50] <Raliegh> How would I go about properly adding this "SVN repository" into Ubuntu 11.04 for easy downloading of files? http://svn.oddsock.org/public/trunk
[04:51] <pooky> that really depends on your needs. I create a folder called projects and then do my check outs there
[04:51] <pooky> the command is svn co. You should read the manual, it'll give you lots more options
[04:51] <cvam> when I have installed grub after windows wiped out, the grub menu resolution is very small. font sizes are small so that samsung monitor prompts that it is not optimal resolution. How to restore default font size
[04:51] <Raliegh> Basically I just want to easily download the streamtranscoder3 files onto my Ubuntu system.
[04:51] <Raliegh> I'm not a huge fan of downloading file by file, haha.
[04:52] <geoffmcc> pooky: what version of evolution?
[04:53] <aBound> Raliegh, I know what you mean especially compiling files. :P
[04:53] <pooky> geoffmcc, 3.2.1
[04:54] <pooky> Raliegh, Then just make a folder called "work" or something and do the co and compile there.
[04:54] <Stepnjump> My CPU is running at 90% just for having 20 webpages open in Opera. I think I have 2 GB of RAM. Why is my computer running so hot? Could it be just because I don't have a swap partition?
[04:54] <geoffmcc> pooky: found a bug report. skimmed threw it, looks like there is a patch, but maybe also depending on ubuntu version. see https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/evolution/+bug/829351
[04:54] <Raliegh> pooky, yes.. But how do I DOWNLOAD those files? I know how to make a folder, and I know how to compile.
[04:54] <pooky> geoffmcc, ah, didn't realize it was a bug, thought it was just a preference.
[04:54] <pooky> Raliegh, svn co (repo url)
[04:54] <Stepnjump> Nevermind that... I think I do have one swap partition in the end
[04:55] <Stepnjump> but the computer is running hot hot hot
[04:55] <geoffmcc> pooky: are you saying you cant find the place to do it, or no matter if you choose red it still shows yellow?
[04:55] <Raliegh> svn command not found, and "apt-get install svn" didn't pull anything up. Am I missing something here?
[04:56] <aBound> Stepnjump, Has the computer's fan been cleaned out lately?
[04:56] <pooky> I don't know how to change it to red, yellow or anything else. Seems like some gtk3 themes cause it to change yellow.
[04:56] <dfeuer> Heeeeeya.    Why does it take 30 seconds for my laptop to resume from hibernate?
[04:56] <pooky> Thought it would just be a color picker hidden away somewhere :P
[04:56] <pooky> Raliegh, I believe you have to install subversion
[04:56] <multipass> is the 10.04 lts the best bet if i dont want to use unity?
[04:57] <aBound> multipass, You can always use 11.10 and use gnome-shell instead. But at the moment 10.04 lts seems more stable than 11.10.
[04:57] <multipass> ok
[04:57] <pooky> geoffmcc, I didn't even realize yellow was what it was till you pointed it out :P thanks for the link.
[04:57] <geoffmcc> pooky: well check out that link, if it applys to you there is a patch.
[04:58] <pooky> Yes, thanks
[04:58] <Stepnjump> no aBound but the CPU used to run very low in CPU % and now it runs always 90% constant...
[04:58] <Octane> whats the name of the social dock plugin
[04:58] <geoffmcc> pooky: no prob, sounds like your problem. hope it helps
[04:58] <multipass> is there any reason to get 32bit ubuntu on a 64bit computer?
[04:58] <aBound> multipass, But I noticed if you intend to use Firefox 9.0.1 on 10.04 it is kinda buggy.
[04:58] <Stepnjump> Could it be malware?
[04:58] <Octane> that gives you access to empathy
[04:58] <Octane> and pidgin
[04:58] <Octane> and gwibbger
[04:59] <zabomber> how do you view all 4 windows in unity?
[04:59] <zabomber> *workspaces?
[04:59] <Stepnjump> abound my Opera is running 50+ % right now and all pages are static!
[04:59] <aBound> Stepnjump, More tabs = More ram usage you can always open a terminal and type: top. Or check the gnome-system-monitor to see what's consuming CPU usage.
[04:59] <mebigfatguy1> zabomber: ctrl-alt right arrow for one
[04:59] <Stepnjump> abound, mostly Opera
[05:00] <zabomber> mebigfatguy1: and to view all 4 same time? i forgot the shortcut
[05:00] <multipass> aBound: do you mean the actual firefox ppa? or the one that ubuntu provides?
[05:00] <zabomber> 11.10 you can drag applicaitons across worspaces
[05:00] <multipass> aBound: just wondering, how what is buggy in it
[05:01] <aBound> multipass, When you click a download link it crashes.
[05:01] <aBound> Some other crashes to on other links.
[05:01] <multipass> o weird
[05:01] <Stepnjump> yeah top is good aBound, thanks
[05:02] <aBound> Stepnjump, No problem if you intend to have multiple tabs open it intends to consume more RAM and there's a chance it can get hotter if you're running flash clips.
[05:02] <qhoore> #ubuntu-id
[05:03] <aBound> Stepnjump, Also if the computer's fans are clogged with dust the temperature rises for the CPU because there's not enough airflow for it to work efficiently.
[05:03] <Stepnjump> abound well that's the thing, there's no flash clips... it's weird. Would it help a lot abound if I were to put the swap partition on a separate hard drive (ex sdb1?)
[05:03] <Stepnjump> yeah I think it does need a cleanup abound. You are right...
[05:04] <Stepnjump> I need to buy a can abound
[05:04] <aBound> Stepnjump, I doubt having a swap would fix the issue as a swap partition partially uses the hdd as virtual RAM.
[05:04] <tripelb> how do I make transmission my default torrent client again. microtottent took it over. It has te question in prefs and trams does not.
[05:07] <tripelb> ubuntu is almost downloaded. my disk had one error... so it would not boot... i/o errors. -- it worked a couple of weeks ago. how can that be?
[05:08] <Octane> that sucks
[05:08] <Octane> u try running chkdsk or something
[05:09] <rtaycher> Hi, my left click seems to break after using it for a while and I need to restart the XServer,(on a thinkpad T510) the amount of time it takes to stop working varies, pluggin in a usb mice and the usb mice can't left click either, any suggestions or pointers to threads with similar problems?
[05:10] <Stepnjump> abound, also another weird thing started happening a while back.. When I test my internet speed at speedtest.net, my internet speed is very slow. When I connect a different computer on the connection (same router) everything works fine. It's pretty weird
[05:10] <Stepnjump> abound how would I know if I had malware
[05:11] <aBound> Disconnected
[05:11] <rtaycher> mouse problem on kubuntu 11.10
[05:11] <blocky> okay I'm pretty sure the network cable is okay, at least it works on my other computer
[05:11] <blocky> how can I troubleshoot the ethernet connection going up and down constantly
[05:13] <aBound> rtaycher, What's the mouse doing not interactive when you move it?
[05:13] <nvz> blocky: dmesg should give some further information for starters
[05:13] <aBound> nvz, blocky left.
[05:13] <Stepnjump> My internet is running ok on a windoze computer but on ubuntu, it's very slow. Why?
[05:13] <nvz> aBound: gee, I wonder why.. heh
[05:14] <aBound> hehe
[05:14] <Octane> stephenh what slow exactly
[05:14] <nvz> Stepnjump: your windoze computer is stealing all your bandwidth?
[05:14] <Stepnjump> no it's off
[05:14] <Stepnjump> everything is off
[05:14] <nvz> well then you need to elaborate
[05:14] <Stepnjump> I think it's ok now nvz, I was running out of disk space.. I just tested and everything is ok now
[05:14] <Stepnjump> thanks
[05:15] <aBound> Stepnjump, Abusing that hdd? hehe
[05:15] <nvz> yeah running low on disk space will do that to ya
[05:15] <QaqeMJCNu> =D
[05:15] <nvz> I often tweak my reserves to manage that as I frequently run out of disk space
[05:16] <aBound> 80GB ssd here.
[05:16] <rtaycher> aBound: what do you mean not interative? It still moves, right clicking still works(right clicking used to stop working a bit of time after left clicking but I haven't seen that recently)
[05:16] <nvz> I tend to move various forms of entertainment around on and off of my netbook.. when I get tired of things or already watched em, I delete or relocate and get other stuff
[05:17]  * nvz has a 160gb in the ol netbook but currently about 60gb is tv, and probably at least 10gb is PSX isos, and who knows what else I've forgotten about
[05:17] <aBound> rtaycher, I think it's a bug in 11.10 given when I used the mouse it would just freeze for 10 seconds and wouldn't react when I moved the mouse
[05:17] <rtaycher> also the mouse tends to drift a bit but I dont know if its a seperate problem
[05:17] <gravitaslexx> good day
[05:17] <rtaycher> aBound: no it moves fine clicking just stops working till I restart X
[05:18] <nvz> rtaycher: my thoughts on the subject would be both checking the device itself i.e. catting the device and see if its producing output when you're not touching it, and also checking what kind of weird input devices are configured via your xorg.conf or xorg.log
[05:18] <rtaycher> and its not just for a bit of time, once left clicking stops working it doesn't work again
[05:19] <nvz> rtaycher: but as you mentioned this is a thinkpad and I know them well, it has a tracknav (two pointing devices) I know as they get old and dirty they tend to have these kinds of issues
[05:22] <opticlove> my system just crashed. where should i go to look at the logs?
[05:24] <rtaycher> nvz: The laptop is fairly new and clicking doesn't work on touchpad or tracknav buttons
[05:24] <edbian> opticlove, /var/log/
[05:24] <Octane> hows kde these days?
[05:24] <rtaycher> nvz: /dev/input/mouse0 is silent but /dev/input/mouse1 gives 2800 ff28 00ff in hex over and over
[05:24] <rumpe1> opticlove, or gnome-system-log (if you use gnome and want some "buttons")
[05:25] <edbian> opticlove, there is a tonne of stuff in there.  Of course, occasinally the system crashes.  This is Ubuntu not RHES
[05:25] <test> hello
[05:25] <edbian> Octane, Anyone who dares to answer that question invites a flame ware
[05:25] <edbian> test, hi
[05:25] <M4dm4x> Can anyone here help. Ive been trying to create a bootable sdcard partition on my n900 (linux smart-phone) but the partition keeps going to a read only file. I'm trying to install NITDroid with this guide ---->@@http://nitdroid.com/index.php?title=N900-install  <---- but it's not working, I hane tried # nitdroid and # nitdroid-help.. no answer.
[05:26] <test> hi edbian howz it goin
[05:26] <Flannel> Octane: KDE is doing just fine.  It's settled down since the converstion to 4.0.
[05:26] <Octane> edbian lol i mean i used to run kubuntu back in the day
[05:26] <Flannel> M4dm4x: Try #ubuntu-offtopic, that's nowhere near on topic here.
[05:26] <Octane> but i went with ubuntu gnome since i just reinstalled for the first time in like 6 years
[05:26] <Octane> but im wondering if it's moving along
[05:26] <M4dm4x> Flannel : thanx..!
[05:27] <edbian> Octane, In my opinion, KDE has changed a lot in the past 2 or 3 years.  I think they are doing something interesting but I think it is resource hungry and I do not personally like it
[05:27] <Flannel> Octane: You may want to ask in #kubuntu, that channel would be more familiar with KDE than this one.
[05:27] <edbian> Octane, KDE has changed a LOT in 6 years
[05:27] <Octane> edbian Flannel thanks mates
[05:28] <edbian> Octane, sure
[05:29] <Octane> Flannel edbian  http://kde.org/screenshots/ a nice journey thru time :)
[05:29] <johnkuan> hi there. trying to get my wireless usb (dwa-125) to work. been through all the forums. ran a whole stack of terminal commands. but still nothing, could anyone help me out please?
[05:30] <edbian> Octane, haha, thanks
[05:30] <edbian> johnkuan, sure...
[05:30] <edbian> johnkuan, what is your device listed as in lsusb ?
[05:30] <edbian> johnkuan, but this might take some time! :)
[05:30] <SachinDey> where to download ubuntu netbook
[05:30] <johnkuan> lol thank you edbian!
[05:31] <johnkuan> Bus 002 Device 010: ID 07d1:3c0d D-Link System DWA-125 Wireless N 150 Adapter(rev.A1) [Ralink RT2870]
[05:31] <edbian> johnkuan, sudo iwlist scan    does what?  (it should list wifi networks)
[05:32] <SachinDey> where to download ubuntu netbook?
[05:32] <johnkuan> lo        Interface doesn't support scanning.
[05:32] <johnkuan> eth0      Interface doesn't support scanning.
[05:32] <johnkuan> tun0      Interface doesn't support scanning.
[05:32] <johnkuan> T_T
[05:32] <edbian> johnkuan, there is no wlan0 so we don't have a driver working for this device
[05:32] <edbian> johnkuan, found this: http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/linux-install-rt2870-chipset-based-usb-wireless-adapter.html
[05:33] <johnkuan> ah cool!
[05:33] <johnkuan> ok I follow this and come back with results :)
[05:34] <edbian> johnkuan, ok,
[05:34] <edbian> johnkuan, I"m not sure it works.  Let me know if you get stuck
[05:34] <johnkuan> thank you :)
[05:36] <Raliegh> I'm trying to install liquidsoap on my Ubuntu machine but I'm getting 4 dependancy errors that ARE NOT FIXED WITH APTITUDE. What do?
[05:36] <Raliegh> http://pastebin.com/GdN9WfQY
[05:37] <nothreat33> Havn't used ubuntu in a couple years, last time i really used it i went for 32-bit because the support was better. How's 64 bit now?
[05:37] <Warp4> Raliegh, have you tried http://packages.ubuntu.com?
[05:38] <Warp4> if you search for what is required, I am sure you will find the .debs that you need to download and install
[05:38] <Raliegh> Warp4 I don't know how I try a link.
[05:38] <Raliegh> And ooh.
[05:38] <troulouliou> hi i m installing ubuntu on several (dell poweredge R200) server , i would like the halt command to turn off the server instead of Systel halted message
[05:38] <troulouliou> is it possible ?
[05:38] <edbian> nothreat33, it's good now
[05:39] <Warp4> Raliegh, for starters:  http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=libao2&searchon=all&suite=oneiric&section=all
[05:39] <Warp4> for libao2
[05:39] <nvz> rtaycher: sounds like as I thought, something is wonky with the device itself.. either the connection is bad or its dirty..etc.. I frequently had problems with my trackpoint doing the moving to the side thing until I cleaned it real good and put a new rubber tip on it. never had the clicking issue though
[05:39] <nothreat33> sweet thanks edbian, tryed looking online but a lot of the articles were dated
[05:39] <edbian> nothreat33, yes
[05:39] <Warp4> will so you a couple of libao packages
[05:39] <Raliegh> Warp4 how do I add that into my sources.list? I mean... What's the line?
[05:39] <Warp4> Raliegh, you dont
[05:39] <edbian> troulouliou, I think if you put something in /usr/local/bin   named halt it will preside over the /bin/halt
[05:40] <edbian> or wherever halt is
[05:40] <Warp4> you just go to the website, search for what you need, download the .deb you need and run 'dpkg -i' on the deb file
[05:41] <troulouliou> edbian, will try with alias too against shutdown
[05:41] <troulouliou> thanks
[05:42] <edbian> troulouliou, alias might work
[05:42] <Raliegh> Warp4 I don't see libao2 on that link.
[05:43] <Warp4> Raliegh, grab libao-common
[05:44] <Warp4> Raliegh, you will have to search the site to get the rest of what you need
[05:44] <Warp4> the site is not that hard to use
[05:44] <Raliegh> libao-common is already the newest version.
[05:44] <Raliegh> Still getting the dependancy error.
[05:45] <Warp4> ok all i can say is use that site to grab anything you think you may need to  fix that
[05:45] <Warp4> the site is not that hard to use
[05:45] <Raliegh> But I just did and it didn't fix anything...
[05:45] <Warp4> there may be other libao-* files you need as well.  there are others there. you just have to be diligent and look
[05:46] <Raliegh> But I'm still getting that libao2 error after installing the dev package.
[05:46] <almoxarife> Warp4: you a ubuntu user?
[05:46] <Warp4> almoxarife, yes, server and desktop
[05:46] <Warp4> i wouldnt be in the channel if i weren't
[05:47] <rtaycher> nvz: thanks for the help. I hope I can figure out the clicking issues
[05:48] <nvz> rtaycher: I'd move on to physical troubleshooting.. I'm a certified tech but its not really rocket science even if you aren't. Thinkpads have clearly marked screw holes on the bottom for which ones take off the keyboard to get in there and check the connections and for the most part those keyboards can be washed in the sink.. heh just gotta dry well before reconnecting
[05:49] <nvz> rtaycher: often the ram sits right below the tracknav and that heat could've done damage as well.. depends on how old it is and how well taken care of
[05:51] <vipinb> Is there anyway in syslog to block a log from a particular application??
[05:52] <Raliegh> Warp4, just went and installed all the "dev" packages for all of those dependencies... And I'm still getting the exact same output.
[05:52] <almoxarife> Raliegh: what version of ubuntu?
[05:52] <Raliegh> 11.04
[05:53] <almoxarife> Raliegh: you added a ppa for liquidsoap?
[05:53] <Raliegh> ppa?
[05:53] <edbian> vipinb, interesting...
[05:53] <edbian> vipinb, don't run that app?
[05:55] <vipinb> edbian: I'm running pulseaudio and it required for me to work my 5+1 speaker.. And it is making my syslog flood
[05:56] <Raliegh> almoxarife PPA? What's that? I'm just trying "apt-get install liquidsoap", being met with 4 dependancy errors that aren't fixed when I install those dependencies.
[05:56] <dfeuer> To answer my own question: switching to uswsusp brought my resume-from-hibernate time down to a very reasonable 15-20 seconds.
[05:56] <edbian> vipinb, looks like the syslog user can write to that file (/var/log/syslog)
[05:56] <edbian> vipinb, You could stop everything from writing to that file by changing the owner
[05:57] <n2diy> I switched from Unity to Gnome, and now I can't find Ubuntuone in my menus?
[05:57] <edbian> vipinb, You could somehow make alsa run as some other user...
[05:57] <edbian> vipinb, I'm googling
[05:57] <Raliegh> How would I check a version of a package? Like libao2?
[05:58] <Warp4> Raliegh, I use 'dpkg -l | grep <packagename>'
[05:58] <n2diy> Raliegh, list it with ls? If you don't know where it is try find or locate.
[05:59] <vipinb> edbian: Thanks.. Please give me some link if you are finding any other alternative also...
[05:59] <Raliegh> Weird, libao2 isn't showing even after installing the dev package for it...
[05:59] <edbian> vipinb, I'm finding nothing
[05:59] <Raliegh> Eugh this is annoying
[06:00] <edbian> vipinb, what are the entries it is flooding with?  Maybe you can make it shut up at the source, rather than having it not log
[06:00] <Raliegh> Warp64 On that site how do I know whether to download the amd64 or 1386?
[06:00] <Warp4> Raliegh, -dev packages are for develpment
[06:00] <edbian> Raliegh, do you have 32 or 64 bit Ubuntu?
[06:00] <Raliegh> 32 edbian
[06:01] <n2diy> !Ubuntuone
[06:01] <Nicolus> whats the best SVN for linux
[06:01] <edbian> Raliegh, then get i386
[06:01] <Warp4> Raliegh, then the i386
[06:01] <edbian> Raliegh, amd64 if for 64 bit soft/hard ware
[06:01] <n2diy> #ubuntuone
[06:01] <vipinb> edbian:  ALSA woke us up to
[06:01] <vipinb> write new data to the device, but there was actually nothing to write! Most
[06:01] <vipinb> likely this is an ALSA driver bug. Please report this issue to the PulseAudio
[06:01] <vipinb> developers.
[06:01] <edbian> n2diy, it's /join
[06:01] <almoxarife> Raliegh: according to 'synaptic' ( something a bit more useful than cli) on my 11.04 liquidsoap depends on libao4, yet your pastebin says nothing about it, you on 11.04?
[06:01] <edbian> vipinb, mmmm
[06:01] <n2diy> edbian, yes, of course, thanks!
[06:02] <edbian> vipinb, I'm sorry I don't know! :(
[06:02] <edbian> n2diy, :)
[06:02] <edbian> almoxarife, perhaps he already has libao4 installed?
[06:03] <almoxarife> edbian: perhaps, why would he need libao2 then, see the link to his pastebin
[06:04] <edbian> almoxarife, are you on 11.10 and he's on 10.04 ?
[06:04] <Raliegh> Okay straight up. $2 for anyone that can help me fix these 4 dependency errors.
[06:04] <Raliegh> I'm on 11.04
[06:04] <edbian> Raliegh, can you re-link your pastebin ?
[06:04] <almoxarife> edbian: I am looking at the 11.04, I also have 11.10
[06:05] <edbian> Raliegh, with the packages we can't install?
[06:05] <edbian> almoxarife, mmm
[06:05] <edbian> for the record I'm on 11.10 right now as well
[06:05] <Raliegh> Yes just a second. And edbian, as bad as it is I'm down for giving temp access.
[06:05] <edbian> Raliegh, hopefully won't be necessary
[06:05] <Raliegh> http://pastebin.com/HKJZ1Z3X
[06:05]  * edbian reads
[06:05] <almoxarife> edbian: my xbmc dedicated box is on 11.04
[06:06] <n2diy> I switched from Unity to Gnome, and now I can't find Ubuntuone in my menus?
[06:08] <edbian> Raliegh, where did you get liquidsoap from?  the version in the repos does not depend on libao2
[06:08] <edbian> Raliegh, http://packages.ubuntu.com/natty/liquidsoap
[06:08] <Raliegh> I'm trying apt-get install liquidsoap
[06:08] <Raliegh> Hell if I know what repo it's trying to use.
[06:08] <n2diy> !Ubuntuone
[06:09] <Raliegh> edbian highlight because I forgot. :P
[06:09] <n2diy> !Ubuntuone
[06:10] <n2diy> !ask
[06:10] <n2diy> !Ubuntuone
[06:10] <Raliegh> Why do you keep doing that n2diy?
[06:10] <almoxarife> Raliegh: do you just have an aversion to a gui for installing apps? you might consider doing the apt-get thing and install 'synaptic' , might as well see all that stuff you can't see on a terminal
[06:11] <n2diy> Raliegh, so I can get a response from the bot, it ignored me twice.
[06:11] <Raliegh> almoxarife I sure do, it's called unecessary space/RAM useage
[06:12] <Raliegh> My server isn't exactly a powerhouse, haha.
[06:13] <almoxarife> Raliegh: got it, server or desktop?
[06:13] <Raliegh> Server. :/
[06:15] <Raliegh> edbian Still going to help me monsieur?
[06:16] <purus> how to install dhcp server ubuntu 11.04
[06:17] <purus> how to install dhcp server ubuntu 11.04 any one help
[06:18] <blackshirt> purus : install dhcp3-server
[06:19] <purus> how to  install dhcp3-server?
[06:20] <blackshirt> purus : $sudo apt-get install dhcp3-server
[06:20] <blackshirt> purus : or $sudo apt-get install isc-dhcp-server
[06:23] <jen> how do I install saipaint from the terminal?
[06:24] <jen> anyone?
[06:24] <blackshirt> jen: what is saipaint ?
[06:24] <jen> its something for graphic art
[06:24] <almoxarife> purus: what version?
[06:25] <blackshirt> jen: is there on repository ?
[06:25] <jen> Im a noob what does that mean
[06:27] <blackshirt> jen: what the link to download ?
[06:27] <clear`> jen:
[06:27] <clear`> OS:
[06:27] <clear`> Win98/2000/XP/Vista/7
[06:28] <clear`> http://painttool-sai.en.softonic.com/
[06:28] <clear`> unless that is not it?
[06:29] <happy21> how can i use the file: "rute.html.tar.bz2" ('htm' is coming in the name, so confusing)
[06:29] <somsip> happy21:
[06:29] <happy21> yes
[06:29] <purus> 11.04
[06:29] <somsip> happy21: tar xjf {filename}
[06:30] <jen> i have it downloaded
[06:30] <happy21> like: tar xjf rute.html.tar.bz2
[06:30] <somsip> happy21: that's the starting point, yes
[06:30] <clear`> jen: then install it with wine
[06:30] <happy21> ok
[06:30] <happy21> but there was no hyphen
[06:31] <jen> I know this sounds dumb but how do I do that? with winetricks?
[06:31] <happy21> i saw that with many commands but confusing
[06:32] <clear`> well do you have wine installed?
[06:32] <almoxarife> jen: don't you have to pay for the software?
[06:32] <Koketso-Mabuse> Just connected via Galaxy to my favourite group yipee
[06:32] <jen> no
[06:32] <Koketso-Mabuse> How can I be of help
[06:33] <clear`> jen: is there something special with that program? i recommend gimp
[06:33] <blackshirt> jen: no package saipaint on ubuntu repository
[06:33] <almoxarife> blackshirt: its win software only
[06:33] <niteria> i think latest update broke my imagick
[06:33] <niteria> php-imagick
[06:33] <jen> what is the repository?
[06:34] <Koketso-Mabuse> You can get the pachage from any ditro and convert it for ubuntu Jen
[06:34] <niteria> it was working correctly and now 'has no delegate for png'
[06:34] <blackshirt> almoxarife: ohhh... maybe better run it on windows :D
[06:34] <jen> okay so Im sitting here on this chat...and I dont know what a repository is, the ubuntu software center? whats the command in the terminal then?
[06:35] <WTF> HEY, WHY WAS I KICKED OFF OF #UBUNTU-OFFTOPIC?
[06:35] <WTF> I wasn't given any reason.
[06:35] <Flannel>  /ar WTF
[06:36] <blackshirt> jen: ubuntu place all packages software available for download on a placed called repository
[06:36] <clear`> jen: the software you want to install is for windows, if you want to install it your need to use wine
[06:36] <jen> I have winetricks
[06:36] <Saddam> algum br aí?
[06:36] <jen> I dont see anything called repository on my dash
[06:37] <almoxarife> jen: software center should have 'wine', you would need wine to install your app(the win one), the installing would be as easy as clicking on the d/l, assuming wine is configured
[06:37] <Saddam> algum brasileiro por aí?
[06:37] <jen> not sure if wine is configured
[06:37] <Flannel> !br | Saddam
[06:38] <niteria> is there like a history of updates?
[06:38] <yabai_> obrigado!
[06:38] <niteria> that I did
[06:38] <almoxarife> jen: configuring wine is as simple as clicking on 'configure wine' , accept the defaults for now
[06:38] <Saddam> !br
[06:38] <jen> okay i think it already is
[06:39] <almoxarife> jen: assuming you have the traditional web browser on ubuntu the d/l is in 'Downloads'
[06:39] <jen> yes
[06:40] <almoxarife> jen: use the file browser to get to Download, find the app, click/double-click on the app, wine should take over
[06:40] <ubuntu> #android
[06:41] <jen> it brings me to archive manager
[06:42] <almoxarife> jen: close it, right-click on the app, open-with 'wine.......???' forget the whole line
[06:43] <jen> the downloaded one?
[06:43] <almoxarife> jen:yes
[06:43] <jen> it doesnt say open with wine :(
[06:43] <blackshirt> jen: maybe better use linux similar tool
[06:43] <almoxarife> jen: right click on the file
[06:43] <jen> but but but I want sai
[06:43] <jen> I did right click
[06:44] <almoxarife> jen: when you do, do you see options? one of those 'properties'?
[06:45] <jen> no I do not
[06:45] <jen> Im using firefox
[06:45] <almoxarife> jen: this may be just a lesson on wine, cause once wine takes over the output if not what you expect I can't help you with
[06:46] <jen> okay thats okay
[06:46] <almoxarife> jen: when I say 'file browser' I mean the file look at thingy that comes with ubuntu, not within a webbrowser
[06:47] <jen> yeah
[06:47] <almoxarife> jen: yeah? meaning you found 'nautilus' <that's what its called, the file-browser
[06:48] <almoxarife> jen: I am assuming you are on a gnome/unity box, yes?
[06:48] <jen> strange now it wont let me install it
[06:48] <jen> says I need administrative somthing
[06:49] <almoxarife> jen: install what?
[06:49] <jen> sai paint
[06:50] <almoxarife> jen: so you got wine to go into the install process?
[06:50] <jen> I have it in dash but now it wants me to logon as admin and I AM admin of my computer of course
[06:50] <jen> yes wine got that icon on dash
[06:50] <jen> it didnt really install
[06:51] <almoxarife> jen: thanks for sharing, and you are now on your own, wine is not perfect, and your windows software I have no clue about
[06:52] <jen> Im going to try something different but you did teach me something, thank you very much
[06:52] <almoxarife> jen: really, use gimp! I hear it's the best
[06:53] <jen> I use mypaint mostly
[06:53] <almoxarife> jen: the win thing you got is crap ware in comparison
[06:53] <jen> awww but but it has fur brushes I want
[06:53]  * almoxarife don't paint, too messy
[06:54] <jen> XD
[06:54] <almoxarife> jen: I am thinking gimp has 'fur' brushes too, all the animal skin ones
[06:55] <jen> okay I will work with gimp more :) I just never know how to adjust my size on it
[06:55] <jen> the size of my drawing
[06:55] <almoxarife> jen: that's why you need to spend time in #gimp, rather than here
[06:56] <jen> oh okay :)
[06:56] <jen> thankies!
[06:57] <aBound> I think Ubuntu 12.04 LTS is going to be the best Ubuntu ever. lol
[06:57] <gridbag> gimp is a disaster.
[06:57] <lalagirl> HI EVERYONE
[06:57] <aBound> lalagirl, Hey there.
[06:58] <lalagirl> Okay, now whenever I enable DMZ or something, it seems like I can't open up any websites.
[06:58] <totem> aBound, NO, linuxmint is the best :D
[06:59] <lalagirl> ...
[06:59] <dominik> m...
[06:59] <lalagirl> It doesn't matter what is better.
[06:59] <dominik> kk
[06:59] <dominik> jjáű
[06:59] <lalagirl> Now, whenever I enable DMZ or whatever, I can't open up a website… What's wrong?
[06:59] <dominik> jjlli
[07:00] <totem> lalagirl, see www.distrowatch.com
[07:00] <lalagirl> Is there something that I changed?
[07:00] <aBound> totem, I don't think lalagirl is looking for another distribution. :P
[07:00] <Raliegh> Ummm... What is this about?
[07:00] <Raliegh> checking that calling user is not root... configure: error: configure script must not be run with root user!
[07:00] <Raliegh> root@transcode:~/liquidsoap-1.0.0-full#
[07:00] <goddard> why isn't the touch pad indicator standard in ubuntu can I make this suggestions some where?
[07:00] <lalagirl> use sudo in front of it?
[07:00] <Ben64> !root | Raliegh
[07:01] <devkhadka> is there any way i can give root password inline for sudo commands
[07:01] <Ben64> hm
[07:01] <Ben64> Raliegh: you shouldn't use root for things
[07:01] <Raliegh> Look at that final line guys... I am logged in as root.
[07:01] <Raliegh> Sudo gives the same error too.
[07:01] <Ben64> "configure script must not be run with root user!"
[07:01] <Ben64> read that again
[07:01] <Raliegh> No
[07:01] <Raliegh> Read
[07:01] <Raliegh> It
[07:01] <Raliegh> Again
[07:01] <FloodBot1> Raliegh: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:01] <Raliegh> root@transcode:~/liquidsoap-1.0.0-full#
[07:01] <lalagirl> !enter | Raliegh
[07:01] <Ben64> don't spam, and please read the error message again
[07:02] <Ben64> there is a very important word you are ignoring
[07:02] <Raliegh> See that line right there? See it? That "root@transcode" means I am logged in as root.
[07:02] <aBound> How do you know the commands in this channel?
[07:02] <Raliegh> I am ALWAYS logged in as root.
[07:02] <Ben64> Raliegh: that is not good at all
[07:02] <Raliegh> Yet I'm getting that error. I also tried sudo just for shits and giggles, but of course it gave me the same error.
[07:02] <lalagirl> Raliegh there is a reason why you shouldn't be logged in as root
[07:02] <Ben64> really, read the error message again
[07:02] <dannel> That is very dangerous practice Raliegh
[07:03] <ranjan> Hi all, anybody here using ubuntu desktop in any companies? or in large scale?
[07:03] <almoxarife> what Raliegh never manages to say is, 'I am connected to a server, somewhere in the cloud'
[07:03] <Raliegh> Guys it's a server, not a home PC. I'm not here to try and figure out ethics, I'm here to try and figure out why this won't configure.
[07:03] <Ben64> and running things as root is generally a bad idea™
[07:03] <Ben64> Raliegh: again, read the error message
[07:03] <Raliegh> Ben64, once things are installed I change owners.
[07:03] <Ben64> very bad practice
[07:03] <Raliegh> And Ben... FFS... I cannot make it any clearer. I AM ROOT.
[07:03] <Ben64> i know you are root
[07:03] <Raliegh> Ohwait
[07:04] <Raliegh> Hahaha
[07:04] <totem> Raliegh, are you using backtrack?
[07:04] <Ben64> read. the. error. message.
[07:04] <Raliegh> It's early.
[07:04] <Raliegh> Leave me alone, and feel free to slap. x.x
[07:04] <Ben64> and stop running things as root
[07:04] <Ben64> its dangerous as all get out
[07:04] <MK`> lawl. Was wondering how long it would take.
[07:04] <Raliegh> Shuddap.
[07:04] <lalagirl> !language | Raliegh
[07:04] <aBound> brb
[07:04] <Raliegh> Anyways, Ben64, I only do compiling and installation as root. I never actually have programs run as root.
[07:04] <Raliegh> And lala... I didn't cuss?
[07:05] <Raliegh> You're a little trigger happy aren't you?
[07:05] <Raliegh> I think so.
[07:05] <lalagirl> !enter | Raliegh
[07:05] <almoxarife> Raliegh: perhaps you have over-stayed your welcome, I for one am done with you, in the kindest most sincere way
[07:05] <ranjan> !help | ranjan
[07:06] <Raliegh> Why? I've never shown any disrespect in this channel before, I'm just not a fan of backseat moderators with trigger fingers for things that don't even occur. But as you wish, I'll take my leave for now.
[07:07] <ranjan> Raliegh, what really is your problem? i came late to the channel
[07:07] <Flannel> Raliegh: You run configure as a regular user, the only thing you run as root is make install.  This is, of course, with the standard "check the package manager first" disclaimer with compiling software.
[07:08] <Raliegh> Oh nothing now, I was mis-reading something. It's early, lol. Though how would I run "./configure" as a different user when it's in my root directory? I can't seem to CD there and I really don't want to move it all to my users' home directory.
[07:08] <lalagirl> ranjan, can you restate your question, i don't understand it
[07:09] <ranjan> lalagirl, i just would like to know any one here is supporting large scale ubuntu desktop installations
[07:09] <Flannel> Raliegh: You could give that other user permission, but the quicker solution would be to move it to someone else's home directory.  (It shouldn't be in /root to begin with)
[07:09] <ranjan> lalagirl, espsicially in corporate
[07:09] <pnorman> Raliegh: Download the source to your home directory, cd into it, then do ./configure && make && sudo checkinstall
[07:10] <lalagirl> ranjan i think i would support it
[07:10] <Raliegh> So the best way is to simply move it to my users' home directory? Alright, easy 'nuff, just time consuming (2k+ files). Thanks guys.
[07:10] <ranjan> lalagirl, so how do you do centralized user authentication ?
[07:10] <Flannel> Raliegh: with mv
[07:10] <dannel> raleigh, it shouldn't take long if it's on the same partition
[07:11] <Ben64> it should never be root
[07:11] <lalagirl> ranjan have a server
[07:11] <ranjan> lalagirl, what server :)
[07:11] <n2diy> I switched from Unity to Gnome, and now I can't find Ubuntuone in my menus?
[07:11] <Raliegh> Lucky for me it is. When it moves do the files/directories still keep the same set permissions? That's what took forever to apply a bit ago.
[07:11] <ranjan> lalagirl, do you mean an LDAP Server?
[07:11] <lalagirl> ranjan uh… i think
[07:12] <pnorman> lalagirl: out of interest, how many users are you supporting with your installation?
[07:12] <ranjan> lalagirl, that means you havent ever been to supporting large scale desktops isnt it?
[07:12] <lalagirl> pnorman my installation of my server?  only 2
[07:13] <pnorman> lalagirl: Ah, I thought you said you supported a large installation
[07:13] <avinashhm> Hi friends ,  i need to install libc6 .. when i do any apt-get install, it is giving "The package libc6 needs to be reinstalled, but I can't find an archive for it." ... since apt-get is broken, can i do it via dpkg -i OR what is the best way to install libc6
[07:13] <Flannel> Raliegh: yes.  Just change the owner, not the permissions (from root to your user)
[07:13] <ranjan> pnorman, even i thought like that ;)
[07:13] <lalagirl> ranjan i'm not quite shore… "i think i would support it"… …… i support the idea
[07:13] <lalagirl> sure*
[07:14] <Flannel> avinashhm: dpkg -i would be the easiest method (assuming it works, it may not).  You can download the deb file from packages.ubuntu.com (find the package, then scroll down and pick your arch)
[07:14] <lalagirl> ranjan i feel stupid.. what i meant to say is that if it was an idea, i would support the idea...
[07:14] <Koketso-Mabuse> Jen: install fulll wine via Synaptic.
[07:14] <pnorman> ranjan: they have a medium sized install at my university department. I'm not sure what they're using for authentication
[07:15] <Raliegh> Flannel - copied it all to my "Home" directory, but I'm getting "Permission denied" errors for "config.log". It didn't exist, so I assumed it couldn't create it since I'm not root, so I added a blank log file, renamed it, and set it to full permissions. Still no-go.
[07:15] <avinashhm> Flannel, just in case, if dpkg -i doesn't work ; is there any other way ? or its only option ?
[07:15] <pnorman> ranjan: In my case, it's a mixed install of windows, ubuntu, solaris and others
[07:15] <Flannel> Raliegh: chown that folder (and recursively, everythign in it) to your user.
[07:15] <ranjan> pnorman, so what is the central authentication mechanism you are using?
[07:16] <pnorman> ranjan: i think it's LDAP but I'm really not sure. I don't support it, I just use it
[07:16] <ranjan> pnorman, have you ever used IPA (freeipa.org)
[07:16] <lalagirl> Flannel chown is a verb? lol
[07:16] <n2diy> !pam
[07:16] <reisio> which means chownly is an adverb
[07:16] <Flannel> avinashhm: You can manually extract the files into your filesystem via a liveCD or whatnot.  This isn't pretty, but then again, getting rid of libc6 in the first place is bound to cause some grief :)
[07:16] <ranjan> pnorman, as a user, does your ubuntu machines authenticate to a central server or local account?
[07:16] <pnorman> ranjan: central server I believe
[07:17] <ranjan> pnorman, so do you know lalagirl in person?
[07:17] <pnorman> ranjan: no
[07:17] <ranjan> pnorman, ok :)
[07:18] <lalagirl> pnorman yes we do. we're best budies
[07:18] <lalagirl> buddies
[07:18] <pnorman> ranjan: I don't know lalagirl at all. :) I just SSH'ed into the server, if you knew of an easy to way to check if they're using LDAP or not I could do it
[07:18] <n2diy> I installed Synaptic with ap-get, but it crashes, here is the error: darryl@nino:~$ sudo synaptic
[07:18] <n2diy> [sudo] password for darryl:
[07:18] <n2diy> terminate called after throwing an instance of 'std::out_of_range'
[07:18] <n2diy>   what():  vector::_M_range_check
[07:18] <n2diy> darryl@nino:~$
[07:18] <FloodBot1> n2diy: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:18] <lalagirl> !code
[07:18] <lalagirl> woops
[07:18] <lalagirl> !paste code onto paste.ubuntu.com
[07:19] <lalagirl> ubottu: stop talking to me
[07:19] <Raliegh> Flannel: I just ran this: "chown -R ices:ices /home/liquidsoap-1.0.0-full" , su'ed into ices, and tried ./configure but now I'm getting permission denied. I used "useradd" for ices, so it has no password or anything (not that it matters unless I'm trying to sudo which I'm not). What did I break? :P
[07:19] <pnorman> hmm - they upgraded the server to 10.04 LTS
[07:19] <ranjan> pnorman, ssh, how without a password :)
[07:20] <pnorman> ranjan: keys in .ssh. I don't know how to do it off hand
[07:20] <gulzar> is their any alternative to vlc-qt. Its heavy for a GTK+ evironment?
[07:20] <reisio> gulzar: gnome-mplayer ?
[07:20] <gulzar> reisio: Ok.. any other? or any vlc-gtk?
[07:21] <reisio> not that I'm aware of, but you can run vlc from a terminal
[07:21] <reisio> as well as mplayer
[07:21] <reisio> the VLC command is cvlc
[07:21] <lalagirl> Let me try this...
[07:21] <lalagirl> !vlc-gtk
[07:21] <gulzar> reisio: Ok..
[07:22] <lalagirl> didn't work
[07:22] <Raliegh> reisio, the thing that sucks about cvlc is if you press "CTRL+C" or close the terminal the script ends as well.
[07:22] <reisio> gulzar: maybe Pymp
[07:22] <lalagirl> !gvlc
[07:22] <reisio> lalagirl: awe
[07:22] <gulzar> reisio: Pymp.. never heard of.. lets try
[07:22] <reisio> !euphoria
[07:22] <lalagirl> http://archive.debian.net/sarge/oldlibs/vlc-gtk
[07:22] <reisio> Raliegh: that's what I'd want to happen, though
[07:23] <reisio> unless I used screen
[07:23] <reisio> or daemonized it
[07:23] <n2diy> What's the command to run Ubuntuone from the CLI?
[07:23] <gulzar> reisio: its a python based mp3 convertor .. I will go for commandline
[07:23] <reisio> I assume VLC can be daemonized, mplayer can (see -input/-slave)
[07:23] <Raliegh> reisio, then cvlc is perfect for you. :) And yeah there is an option to pass that uses normal "vlc" and has terminal usage.
[07:23] <reisio> gulzar: no it's a general mplayer frontend, including playback
[07:23] <reisio> gulzar: I assume it uses GTK+
[07:24] <reisio> gulzar: yes it does
[07:24] <gulzar> reisio: Actually I want to get rid of qt apps to make my sys more faster.. but VLC is one app I can'nt live without..
[07:24] <reisio> MPlayer and VLC are basically equivalent
[07:24] <reisio> I actually favor mplayer, but for most people they do all the same things
[07:24] <lalagirl> !u1sdtool | n2diy
[07:25] <reisio> anyways, pymp is a GTK+ frontend for mplayer
[07:25] <reisio> there's one for Xfce, too...
[07:25] <lalagirl> n2diy does this help? http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/lucid/man1/u1sdtool.1.html
[07:25] <gulzar> reisio: Ok.. I will search for some CLI media plaer
[07:25] <lalagirl> n2diy I"m no expoert
[07:25] <lalagirl> n2diy I'm no expert
[07:25] <reisio> xfmedia http://spurint.org/projects/xfmedia/
[07:25] <reisio> the GTK+ frontend for VLC is just so poorly maintained, IIRC
[07:25] <lalagirl> !google | lalagirl
[07:26] <reisio> if you can get a build of mplayer with the GTK+-1 frontend included, you can theme it to look like ordinary GTK+2
[07:26] <n2diy> lalagirl, thanks, I'm using that on Xubuntu, on my other box. I upgraded this box to Ubuntu 11.10 so I could use the GUI, but Ubuntuone isn't in my menus, thanks.
[07:26] <gulzar> reisio: is mplayer support as good as VLC?
[07:26] <reisio> gulzar: I would argue it's better
[07:26] <reisio> to most they would appear to have the same support
[07:27] <reisio> looks like Ubuntu dumped the GTK+-1 frontend like most everyone else
[07:27] <lalagirl> n2diy sudo ubuntuone-launch
[07:28] <gulzar> reisio: Thank You
[07:29] <reisio> daemonization wrapper from a ##linux regular over here: https://github.com/trapd00r/rmcd
[07:29] <reisio> if you're interested
[07:29] <Raliegh> Anyone care to help me with this? I copied some files from "root" to "home" to allow a user to use them. I used this command to recursively chown to my user, but now I'm getting 'permission denied'. "chown -R ices:ices /home/liquidsoap-1.0.0-full"
[07:29] <lalagirl> n2diy does that work?
[07:29] <n2diy> lalagirl, I don't know, I ran it, and the box is still "cooking".
[07:30] <reisio> Raliegh: if you ls -al /home/, does it say 'ices:ices' ?
[07:30] <lalagirl> n2diy cooking hahahahah that's funny...
[07:30] <Raliegh> reisio, for that folder yes it does.
[07:31] <lalagirl> n2diy sudo u1sdtool -q; sudo killall ubuntuone-login; sudo u1sdtool -c
[07:31] <reisio> Raliegh: what's the command giving you permission denied?
[07:31] <n2diy> lalagirl, still waiting. no error message, no prompt... no prompt, I'll have to open another terminal.
[07:31] <Raliegh> ./configure
[07:31] <reisio> Raliegh: in what dir?
[07:31] <Raliegh> I "su ices", then "./configure"
[07:31] <lalagirl> n2diy use ctrl+c to stop it
[07:32] <Raliegh> Not sure, whatever the default is for su'ing into ices.
[07:32] <Raliegh> I can't seem to "cd" anywhere else either.
[07:32] <gulzar> Raliegh: try group - "user"
[07:32] <reisio> Raliegh: doesn't sound like the right directory
[07:32] <reisio> Raliegh: 'pwd' will tell you where you are, if you're unsure
[07:32] <Raliegh> Oooh, I'm still in /root
[07:32] <reisio> Raliegh: that said liquidsoap is in the repos, why do you want to build it manually?
[07:32] <Raliegh> Lol.
[07:32] <n2diy> lalagirl, yea, that works too. Lots of traceback errors.
[07:33] <Raliegh> reisio, because I got met with dependency errors that couldn't be fixed no matter what I installed, so I'm just compiling it and letting it install it for me.
[07:33] <Raliegh> Anyways, how do I "cd" into the "/home/liquidsoap" directory as "ices"?
[07:34] <Raliegh> Or change directories in terminal in some way as a user?
[07:35] <purvesh> abhinav_singh, hi
[07:35] <aBound> Woot, I'm digging this alpha.
[07:35] <reisio> Raliegh: well at least use checkinstall or something
[07:36] <reisio> Raliegh: cd /home/liquids[TAB]
[07:36] <gulzar> Raliegh: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Users_and_Groups
[07:37] <Raliegh> That's so weird that tab is required. o.o But reisio, I even tried manually installing the dependencies and it still didn't read them, so it was a lost cause, lol.
[07:38] <almoxarife> gulzar: arch edition of ubuntu netbooks?
[07:38] <reisio> Raliegh: probably missing something trivial
[07:38] <reisio> Raliegh: TAB isn't required, it'll just save you time and sanity
[07:38] <Raliegh> Really? When I tried to cd the normal way a root user does it just threw me errors, haha.
[07:39] <gulzar> almoxarife: no its ArchWiki where you can find HELP. :P
[07:39] <debaino> How do i set the screen resolution to 1024 by 600 for ubuntu?.
[07:40] <aBound> debaino, Which Ubuntu distro?
[07:40] <Raliegh> resio, apparently it isn't properly installing all the packages that came with it via this way. I got an ocaml error first, did "apt-get install ocaml", and it skipped that error and loaded a few more things. Now it can't located "ocamlfind" and that isn't a package I can seem to install. x.x
[07:40] <almoxarife> gulzar: that's great, you mean the guy is running a hybrid? an arch-buntu?
[07:40] <debaino> 10.04
[07:41] <debaino> abound: Lts 10.04
[07:42] <Raliegh> reisio: Sorry, didn't highlight you properly a second ago.
[07:42] <aBound> debaino, System >> Preferences >> Monitors.
[07:43] <problematic> Hi there. I'm trying to boot from USB installer and I'm seeing a screen with purple and green vertical bars. This may be caused by a new graphics card: a Raedeon HD 5450. How to resolve?
[07:43] <gulzar> almoxarife: I just told him about usera nd groups. Is there any such doc in Ubuntu?
[07:44]  * problematic finds a thread which may be relevent
[07:44] <problematic> set bios to use integrated graphics
[07:45] <debaino> abound: There is no option for 1024 by 600
[07:45] <almoxarife> gulzar: for a hybrid arch-ubie? don't know
[07:45] <aBound> debaino, Can your screen ratio handle 1024 by 600?
[07:46] <A_J> will something like this work in ubuntu ?
[07:46] <A_J> http://www.amazon.co.uk/USB-LAN01-Usb-lan-RJ45/dp/B000CCZP88
[07:46] <aBound> debaino, By the way depending on your video card you may need binary drivers installed.
[07:47] <aBound> debaino, Or an open source driver.
[07:47] <debaino> abound: In one computer yes,its 1024 by 768 ,but in another there the highest ratio is 900
[07:47] <gulzar> almoxarife: I think you never used ArchWIki. it is not ONLY for Arch it is for every Linux distro.. epect few things where you can you your oogic :)
[07:48] <aBound> debaino, Is the other computer running on Ubuntu or another operating system?
[07:48] <debaino> abound: Ubuntu,same version  in all computers
[07:49] <A_J> aBound : will something like this work in ubuntu ? http://www.amazon.co.uk/USB-LAN01-Usb-lan-RJ45/dp/B000CCZP88
[07:49] <aBound> debaino, If you're using Ubuntu 11.10 it may install the open source ati/nvidia driver. If you're using anything below that such as 10.04 LTS it may use a generic driver. Showing outputs of 800x600 and 640x480.
[07:50] <Raliegh> So... Back to libao crap. I did "apt-get install libao-ocaml" and it installed fine. However, in my configure I'm still getting "libao not found"
[07:50] <Raliegh> What do?
[07:50] <lalagirl> A_J um… try somethign from Apple like… http://www.amazon.co.uk/Apple-Ethernet-Adapter-MacBook-2010/dp/B00486070K/ref=acc_glance_computers_ai_ps_t_2/278-4534197-8554248
[07:50] <debaino> aBound: Can anything be done in UBuntu LTs i am using to fix the issue?
[07:51] <aBound> A_J, I can't say never seen such a thing before. More than likely if the kernel supports it Ubuntu will be supported by it.
[07:51] <almoxarife> gulzar: my oogic tells me that for ubuntu related fixes I better stick to ubuntu-wiki, if I owned an arch I would look in arch-wiki, but more importantly if I was on a ubuntu HELP channel I definitely be handing out the UBUNTU wiki help page
[07:51] <pp7> anyone here use marlin or nautilus?  why does "compress" not show any dialog when i click it?
[07:51] <A_J> aBound say i do buy it, and it does not work can we make it work
[07:52] <goddard>  /leave
[07:52] <vodik> almoxarife: patches are one thing, but ubuntu shouldn't be changing how applications fundamentally work
[07:52] <aBound> debaino, If you're using Ubuntu LTS on all computers and only a few work. One of them definitely is either using onboard video or an actual video card. I'd check what kind of onboard video/video card it uses through a terminal. By opening a terminal type: lspci
[07:53] <cypha> what the bloody hell
[07:53] <dannel> pp7, check you have fileroller installed
[07:53] <cypha> what kind of overwriting dialog does ubuntu have
[07:53] <vodik> almoxarife: i've used gentoo and debian resources before to configure ubuntu
[07:53] <cypha> it's the stupidest thing
[07:53] <pp7> dannel: yep i do
[07:53] <cypha> where the hell is the choice to overwrite
[07:53] <cypha> how do I click YES or OK
[07:53] <gulzar> almoxarife: your wish... try ArchWiki first and then think again..
[07:53] <pp7> dannel: i get: (file-roller:16489): GLib-GObject-WARNING **: invalid (NULL) pointer instance
[07:53] <cypha> instead of Skip, Write Into, Cancel
[07:53] <aBound> A_J, Sure if you know how to do driver development for the Linux kernel. But it'll have to be supported by the kernel that's where the drivers are. :P
[07:53] <cypha> Write Into appends the data
[07:54] <A_J> aBound, hmm...
[07:54] <almoxarife> pp7: look for the extension for compression for nautilus,
[07:54] <A_J> i'm clueless in that tbj
[07:54] <A_J> tbh*
[07:54] <pp7> almoxarife: what about marlin?
[07:54] <almoxarife> pp7: no idea
[07:54] <cypha> YO, SOMEONE, if you use ubuntu, you obviously see this all the time
[07:55] <aBound> A_J, Seems pretty old and slow given it's a USB 1.1 it might be supported but can't say not all drivers are included in the older kernels or newer kernels.
[07:55] <cypha> how do I overwrite a file (some files from the source have same filename as files in the destination)
[07:55] <almoxarife> pp7: its in repos
[07:55] <pp7> almoxarife: what is? Marlin?  I already have Marlin installed and i have the same problem with it
[07:56] <debaino> abound: Will replacing 10.04 with 11+ version help?.
[07:56] <almoxarife> pp7: I don't use or know 'marlin'
[07:56] <cypha> so it's at a point of shittiness where no one can even say that it's a particular button
[07:56] <aBound> debaino, Ubuntu 11.10 will hav
[07:57] <debaino> aBound:Thanks
[07:57] <aBound> debaino, Ubuntu 11.10 will have a newer kernel once you update the system but at the moment it tends to be somewhat unstable. It varies given that once you install the system and if you have an ati/nvidia card it will ask you to install the restricted binary drivers.
[07:58] <aBound> debaino, By default it may use one of the open source drivers.
[07:59] <debaino> aBound:I use 11.10 to host my website and a postgres server,nothing frightening to report just yet,should go for an earlief verion?.
[08:00] <txomon|nqas> is there any difference between the kernel in ubuntu server and the normal one?
[08:01] <pp7> probably
[08:01] <aBound> debaino, I meant unstable as in the mouse acting weird and unity.
[08:02] <aBound> debaino, Ubuntu 11.10 is more bleeding edge.
[08:02] <aBound> debaino, Figures if you upgrade the others it'll automatically switch to an open source driver if you use ati/nvidia cards.
[08:02] <aBound> debaino, I'm using 12.04 LTS Alpha 1.
[08:03] <debaino> aBound,oh wow,i shall definetely try it out.
[08:03] <aBound> A_J, I'd probably buy it it's only $3.50.
[08:03] <aBound> A_J, Might as well give it a go.
[08:04] <A_J> okie aBound will go buy it. ty
[08:04] <pp7> almoxarife: sweet, i just built the latest version from source and its working :)
[08:04] <aBound> debaino, 12.04 LTS Alpha 1 is somewhat a bit stable but unstable when it comes to open Software Center and possibly your home folder.
[08:04] <aBound> A_J, No problem.
[08:04] <aBound> opening**
[08:04] <almoxarife> pp7: built?
[08:05] <pp7> almoxarife: yep from here: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/file-roller/3.2.1-0ubuntu1
[08:05] <aBound> Ubuntu 12.04 LTS uses bleeding edge packages.
[08:05] <pp7> almoxarife: downloaded source and compiled it
[08:05] <Evanescence> which command can let you choose default video player for system ? I want to switch from vlc to mplayer.
[08:05] <Ben64> 12.04 is making me angry
[08:05] <debaino> aBound: Thanks for your insights,really helpful.
[08:05] <Ben64> i want to murder unity
[08:05] <aBound> 12.04 definitely doesn't seem like it has flash.
[08:05] <pp7> Ben64: y?
[08:05] <Raliegh> Hello, I'm having some more compilation errors. I've Googled around and it said to install the dev version of gstreamer, and I did... But I'm still getting this error: checking whether pkg-config knows about gstreamer-app-0.10... configure: error: gstreamer-app-0.10.pc not found.. Do you need to set PKG_CONFIG_PATH?"
[08:05] <aBound> Ben64, What's it doing?
[08:06] <Ben64> i went 10.04 -> 12.04 and i lost a lot of functionality in the process
[08:06] <almoxarife> pp7: you needed something for compressing then, not a extension for nautilus for compression, got it
[08:06] <txomon|nqas> Ben64, its in alpha 2 still
[08:06] <aBound> Ben64, What do ya expect when you're using Alpha.
[08:06] <aBound> :P
[08:06] <pp7> almoxarife: no, the dialog when u select "compress" from the context menu was not working
[08:06] <Ben64> aBound: i'm pretty sure this would be the same as 11.10
[08:06] <aBound> Unity definitely feels a bit more stable on 12.04.
[08:06] <msterbrewer> hello
[08:06] <Ben64> unity is unconfigurable
[08:07] <Ben64> i like being able to customize everything
[08:07] <lalagirl> NYAN CAT!!!!!! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QH2-TGUlwu4
[08:07] <msterbrewer> how do i switch keyboard and type in a different languagw
[08:07] <pp7> almoxarife: installing the latest version of file-roller fixed it
[08:07] <lalagirl> Sorry
[08:07] <aBound> Ben64, I dislike 11.10 for it's instability.
[08:07] <almoxarife> pp7: cool
[08:07] <aBound> Ben64, There's always gnome-shell.
[08:07] <Matrixiumn> hello
[08:07] <A_J> lol lalagirl
[08:07] <Ben64> I can't put the panel on the bottom, I can't add things to the panel, all the "System Preferences" are gone
[08:07] <lalagirl> A_J hahaha
[08:07] <aBound> Ben64, Ubuntu's goal is to lead towards more usability.
[08:08] <aBound> For newcomers.
[08:08] <Ben64> I installed gnome, and it's all broken too, the themes don't work at all
[08:08] <Raliegh> Nobody has any idea?
[08:08] <Ben64> I can customize themes on 10.04 easily, can't on 12.04
[08:08] <giochi> ciao
[08:08] <giochi> !list
[08:09] <pp7> Ben64: oh really?
[08:09] <pp7> Ben64: what can't u customize exactly?
[08:09] <Ben64> pp7: yes, really
[08:09] <Ben64> anything
[08:10] <pp7> Ben64: cant u install gnome-tweak-tool?
[08:10] <aBound> Ben64, Remember gnome-shell is bleeding edge just as unity.
[08:10] <Ben64> pp7: it only lets me choose from a list, can't add to the list
[08:10] <lalagirl> Полюби же ты меня!
[08:11] <aBound> It took time for gnome 2 to be stable when it first came out.
[08:11] <pp7> Ben64: cant u just add your theme to ~/.themes ?
[08:11] <Ben64> pp7: http://www.ben64.com/customize.png
[08:11] <Ben64> thats 10.04 ^
[08:11] <pp7> Ben64: or /usr/share/themes ?
[08:11] <pp7> i c
[08:12] <Ben64> the entire preferences menu is missing from 12.04
[08:12] <aBound> Ben64, By the way how do you switch from gnome-shell once you installed it?
[08:12] <Ben64> log out, and hit the cog icon next to my name
[08:12] <pp7> aBound: from?
[08:12] <reisio> Matrixiumn: hi
[08:12] <aBound> pp7, I'm using Unity on 12.04 and how do I switch from gnome shell?
[08:13] <aBound> By the way gnome-do is awesome.
[08:13] <pp7> aBound: i thought there could not be used simultaneously
[08:13] <pp7> they*
[08:13] <almoxarife> remember how configurable 10.10 was ? well the same is still possible, plasma-workspace, and best part, smaller foot print
[08:13] <aBound> pp7, They can't but I'm asking how do I use that gui instead of unity. :P
[08:13] <pp7> aBound: gnome-do is ancient
[08:14] <aBound> pp7, Others use different launchers than gnome-do?
[08:14] <pp7> aBound: synapse for example
[08:14] <pp7> aBound: unity works fine for me as a launcher
[08:14] <aBound> pp7, I just wanted to give gnome-shell a run never used it before.
[08:15] <pp7> aBound: did u install it?
[08:15] <aBound> pp7, When it comes to Linux I am one shy of being behind.
[08:15] <aBound> pp7, Yes.
[08:15] <dooglus> I just booted a usb live stick ubuntu 11.10.  how do I run an ssh server from here?
[08:15] <pp7> aBound: can't u select it from the login menu?  I'm not sure how it integrates
[08:16] <pp7> dooglus: sudo apt-get install openssh-server
[08:16] <aBound> pp7, I'll have to try in a while might want to give that launcher a try the one you pointed out.
[08:16] <Raliegh> Hello, I'm having some more compilation errors. I've Googled around and it said to install the dev version of gstreamer, and I did... But I'm still getting this error: checking whether pkg-config knows about gstreamer-app-0.10... configure: error: gstreamer-app-0.10.pc not found.. Do you need to set PKG_CONFIG_PATH?" This is when trying "./configure" as a user.
[08:16] <dooglus> pp7: I did that.  there's still no sshd running tho'
[08:16] <reisio> Raliegh: sounds like it has _a lot_ of deps
[08:16] <aBound> pp7, So far I'd probably like 12.04 in the long term.
[08:16] <pp7> k
[08:16] <reisio> you should probably go back and figure out why the liquidsoap package in the repos isn't installing
[08:16] <dooglus> pp7: it says: "openssh-server is already the newest version."
[08:16] <Stanley00> Raliegh: I think you should install some gstreamer's header
[08:17] <Raliegh> reisio It does, but I think I've gotten all of the dependencies. I have the correct dependencies now, and I have the feeling this is the last one.
[08:17] <dooglus> !ssh
[08:17] <dooglus> !sshd
[08:17] <Raliegh> Stanley00, I've no idea what that is, heh.
[08:18] <pp7> Stanley00: search for libgstreamer
[08:18] <rectec> Excuse me is there any way I can upgrade to Kernel <3.0 on Lucid?
[08:18] <Raliegh> I've already got libgstreamer-dev
[08:18] <Stanley00> Raliegh: not sure, but I think you should run "sudo apt-get install libgstreamer0.10-dev -" first
[08:18] <dooglus> pp7: when I try "sudo /etc/init.d/ssh restart" it tells me "start: Unknown job: ssh"
[08:18] <pp7> hmm
[08:18] <aBound> Eh, looks like the software center doesn't work to well in my Alpha can't get Synapse.
[08:19] <pp7> dooglus: and u sure it installed ok?
[08:19] <Raliegh> And reisio, I always get this output when trying "apt-get install liquidsoap", even though I have the dependencies... And I know this because I was met with the same errors in "./configure", installed them one-by-one, and it progressed in the configuration. http://pastebin.com/yibFyzPf
[08:19] <Raliegh> Stanley00, I've already done that.
[08:19] <dooglus> pp7: I've no idea.  It's not working, so I guess not.  I used your command to install it though.
[08:19] <pp7> dooglus: hmm not sure
[08:20] <dooglus> pp7: when I try to --reinstall it, the last 2 lines of output are: Setting up openssh-server (1:5.8p1-7ubuntu1) ...
[08:20] <dooglus> start: Unknown job: ssh
[08:20] <pp7> dooglus: u sure u dont have anything else running on port 22?
[08:20] <Raliegh> Stanley00, is there anything I'm supposed to do AFTER that?
[08:20] <Stanley00> Raliegh: then, you should search the web for that error, I cant do a web search here, sorry
[08:21] <dooglus> pp7: I literally just booted from a live usb stick.  there's no special config done at all
[08:21] <Raliegh> I have, and it's all cluttered unrelated stuff. Nothing that gives me any idea of what to do.
[08:21] <pp7> hmm
[08:21] <rectec> Is there any way I can upgrade to Kernel <3.0 on Lucid?
[08:21] <Raliegh> Why can't stuff just... WORK? Error here, error there, jump hoops here, leap over this hurdle there.
[08:22] <Raliegh> reisio, do you think you know how to fix the apt-get issues?
[08:23] <Stanley00> Raliegh: what prog are you trying to install?
[08:23] <aBound> pp7, Thanks for the heads up on the launcher.
[08:23] <Raliegh> Liquidsoap
[08:23] <aBound> Looks like I need to visit more blogs.
[08:23] <pp7> aBound: oh synapse, yea
[08:23] <lalagirl> Hi
[08:23] <Kadko> Hi
[08:23] <Stanley00> Raliegh: why dont you use the one in Ubuntu Software Center?
[08:23] <Raliegh> apt-get install gives me those dependency errors even though I've manually installed all of them, and my ./configure progress can attest to that. I can't finish the ./configure script because of that stupid error I'm snagging.
[08:24] <pp7> aBound: bookmark omgubuntu.co.uk :)
[08:24] <Raliegh> Stanley00 because that gives the dependency errors even though I've manually installed all of them.
[08:24] <aBound> pp7, I been there before but I kept trying to get a stable enough Ubuntu. :P
[08:24] <Raliegh> You can see those here: http://pastebin.com/yibFyzPf
[08:24] <pp7> Raliegh: tried: apt-get -f install?
[08:24] <Kadko> Hello, is Ununtu compatible with tablets such as Playbook, ipad and iconia tabs?
[08:24] <Raliegh> Doesn't work pp7, same dependency errors.
[08:24] <aBound> pp7, Bookmark http://blog.sudobits.com/
[08:25] <aBound> :P
[08:25] <pp7> aBound: :P ok
[08:25] <aBound> www.webupd8.com is nice too.
[08:25] <Ben64> :| I can't move the gnome panel to the bottom either
[08:25] <reisio> Kadko: my guess is yes (with effort), and moreso for the iconia, as it's mostly an ordinary Windows box
[08:25] <pp7> aBound: yea i follow that too but omgubuntu seems better
[08:25] <rectec> anyone?
[08:25] <Stanley00> Raliegh: hmm, just tesst install that app, work fine,
[08:25] <reisio> rectec: I'm a one
[08:25] <cliffybx> how to kill apps in ubuntu?
[08:26] <rectec> yeah?
[08:26] <Stanley00> Raliegh: maybe you should change your repo to main server
[08:26] <pp7> cliffybx: xkill then click on the window of the app
[08:26] <pp7> cliffybx: or pkill -9 <PID>
[08:26] <aBound> pp7, Surfing different blogs might have better articles in certain areas or apps that might not be shown on omgubuntu.
[08:26] <Kadko> tanks reisio, i wil try the latest release
[08:26] <Raliegh> Stanley00, I do believe it is. Think you could possibly just upload your sources.list for me?
[08:26] <rectec> Is there any way I can upgrade to Kernel <3.0 on Lucid?
[08:26] <aBound> Best to keep a list.
[08:26] <pp7> aBound: true
[08:26] <cliffybx> >pp7..thanks
[08:26] <pp7> np
[08:26] <aBound> I sometimes use the brief rss addon for firefox.
[08:27] <pp7> aBound: use chrome :)
[08:27] <Stanley00> Raliegh: just a min, let me see
[08:27] <Raliegh> Thanks. :)
[08:27] <aBound> HA! Google chrome or the open source chrome?
[08:27] <aBound> Hard for me to switch to chrome.
[08:27] <pp7> aBound: google-chrome
[08:27] <pp7> aBound: its damn fast! :)
[08:27] <aBound> I can't live without adblock plus/noscript.
[08:27] <pp7> aBound: there is adblock for chrome
[08:28] <Stanley00> Raliegh: here it is
[08:28] <Stanley00> Raliegh: http://pastebin.com/HeL2hKmN
[08:29] <aBound> I'll probably check it out. But I heard the open source chrome had a built-in pdf sandboxer.
[08:29] <Stanley00> Raliegh: I use the repos of vietnam group, not an official repo...
[08:29] <rectec> well then can I install the rt2800pci network module in lucid?
[08:29] <gulzar> any alternative for keepassx .. any gtk app?
[08:30] <Raliegh> That's fine... Would it still be able to install the correct liquidsoap?
[08:30] <Raliegh> I have this guy feeling I'm still going to get those false dependancy errors.
[08:31] <Raliegh> gut *
[08:31] <Raliegh> Long update for that list, haha.
[08:32] <aBound> pp7, But is there a thing like noscript?
[08:32] <pp7> aBound: what is that?
[08:33] <aBound> pp7, NoScript is an addon for firefox that blocks javascript and prevents you from being exploited by xss.
[08:33] <pp7> i c
[08:33] <Stanley00> Raliegh: haha, it work fine for me, since I'm living in Vietnam... ;)
[08:33] <pp7> dunno
[08:33] <aBound> pp7, Blocking javascript increases firefox's speed too and they have fasterfox lite.
[08:33] <Raliegh> I'm getting like 3% load per second. :P
[08:34] <pp7> aBound: http://www.ehow.com/how_10054087_install-noscript-chrome.html
[08:35] <Ademan> is it possible to get a full shell from the server installer?
[08:36] <aBound> pp7, Ahh I doubt it'll work the same.
[08:36] <pp7> aBound: trust me, you'll like chrome
[08:36] <pp7> aBound: snappy as hell :P
[08:37] <Raliegh> Stanley00, okay, I can't use this. If it's taking this long just to load the list who knows how long it will take to actually download a file. :/
[08:37] <aBound> hehe
[08:37] <Stanley00> Raliegh: liquidsoap takes less than 10Mb, so if you dont want, you can use the main repos :D
[08:37] <mjohn425> Can someone please tell me if I can use x64  with the intel i5-2430M processor thanks.
[08:38] <JackyAlcine> Liquid soap? I wash with that.
[08:38] <Stanley00> mjohn425: I think so...
[08:38] <lalagirl> mjohn425 yes you can
[08:38] <Stanley00> !info liquidsoap | JackyAlcine , this is it ;) :
[08:38] <aBound> pp7, I'll give a try though I'm still a firefox man due to open source. :P
[08:39] <JackyAlcine> Lol ah :)
[08:39] <pp7> aBound: use chromuim if u want open source then :P
[08:39] <Raliegh> Stanley00, I must have had a conflicting repo, because I made a blank sources.list, added that one repository, and all is well now. :D
[08:39] <pp7> chromium*
[08:39] <aBound> :P
[08:39] <Stanley00> Raliegh: :D
[08:39] <JackyAlcine> !info binutils
[08:39] <JackyAlcine> That's like Super useful.
[08:39] <mjohn425> Thanks, I've been having a tad bit of trouble installing ubuntu on my Acer Aspire 5750G and I was wondering if that could be a problem. I just did a factory reset (of windows) any other suggestions?
[08:40] <Raliegh> Now... Does anybody in here have knowledge with liquidsoap? I keep getting parse errors. x.x
[08:41] <gulzar> any alternative for keepassx .. any gtk app?
[08:42] <aBound> pp7, I'll need another browser either way if the other one breaks.
[08:42] <Stanley00> gulzar: keepassx? I think there's one eith the same name... dont know if it's for gtk
[08:42] <lalagirl> mjohn425 I'll help you with your installation of Ubuntu. Tell me what went wrong.
[08:42] <gulzar> Stanley00: it is with MONO. :(
[08:42] <Stanley00> gulzar: oops...
[08:43] <taher> hi there
[08:43] <MILLIONER> hello
[08:43] <gulzar> Stanley00: ya.. so wanted something better
[08:43] <aBound> pp7, HA! I forgot the software center doesn't work I can't install google chrome.
[08:43] <pp7> aBound: https://www.google.com/chrome
[08:44] <pp7> k i'm off to bed
[08:44] <pp7> gnite
[08:44] <taher> i have a (netbeans-7.0.1-ml-linux.sh) on my hard disk and i want to install it (i'm nwe in linux:D)
[08:45] <mjohn425> I don't know if I'm just too impatient but it kept stalling at something about attached scsi or something. I will try to reinstall in a second and tell exact error. I'm also running Win 7 and wanting to dual boot but with ubuntu on a separate partition.
[08:45] <taher> can anyone help, please
[08:45] <aBound> pp7, I grabbed the .deb from their and it opens software center but remember I'm on 12.04 half of the stuff on here is broken night.
[08:45] <mjohn425> Also, I'm installing using the cd.
[08:46] <taher> i have a (netbeans-7.0.1-ml-linux.sh) on my hard disk and i want to install it (i'm nwe in linux:D)
[08:46] <Stanley00> taher: just cd to that folder, bash ./yourscriptname
[08:46] <taher> thanx
[08:47] <urk> how frequently are the repositories updated?
[08:48] <urk> trying to install teamspeak3 but repositories still only provide ts2 :(
[08:48] <JackyAlcine> !info cmake
[08:48] <Raliegh> Curses... The apt-get install version of liquidsoap isn't the version I need... It's behind in times. :(
[08:48] <taher> how to add reposetory in kubunut?
[08:49] <Raliegh> So it looks like I've got to fix that stupid compile error too. x.x
[08:49] <taher> how to add reposetory in kubunut?
[08:50] <Stanley00> Raliegh: haha, all just because of the sources.list? :))
[08:51] <Stanley00> taher: you can use software source to add repos
[08:51] <JackyAlcine> taher: software sources under System Settings
[08:52] <JackyAlcine> Oops, didn't see that.
[08:52] <KnorrieBorrie> is there a channel for UFW?
[08:53] <edi> oi
[08:53] <Stanley00> KnorrieBorrie: I think you can ask your question here.
[08:54] <KnorrieBorrie> Stanley00: okay thanks
[08:54] <taher> stanley00: tahnQ very much
[08:54] <Stanley00> you are welcome ;)
[08:55] <KnorrieBorrie> I would like to dynamically set UFW to allow IP's to use https, is that at all possible?
[08:56] <Stanley00> KnorrieBorrie: dynamically? what is it mean?
[08:57] <KnorrieBorrie> Stanley00: say through an instruction on a php page
[08:57] <e_t_> That's probably more insecure than just leaving port 443 open all the time.
[08:58] <KnorrieBorrie> well, what I'd like to do is a knock on door on another server, to open a port on an unknown server
[08:59] <e_t_> So you at computer A knock on computer B to let you into computer C?
[08:59] <gribouille> hi
[08:59] <Stanley00> KnorrieBorrie: well, I afraid it's out of my ability, you should wait for someone else, sorry.
[08:59] <KnorrieBorrie> e_t_: exactly!
[09:00] <gribouille> the command "amixer set Master off" turns the sound off, but "amixer set Master on" doesn't bring it back (on oneiric)
[09:01] <e_t_> KnorrieBorrie: that still sounds really insecure. If computer C is what you need to access, it's better to talk to it directly.
[09:01] <KnorrieBorrie> is it possible to have user www-data do some job on UFW?
[09:01] <mjohn425>  Stanley00 : Whenever I try and do anything with my ubuntu install disk it stalls on Attached SCSI Disc what should I do? I downloaded the iso from the website and burnt it on a cd.
[09:02] <rabbi1> i have a file in ubuntu and shared, how can a windows person and me access at the same time and edit at same time ?
[09:02] <Stanley00> mjohn425: did you checksum your iso image?
[09:02] <aBound> Question: I'm using Ubuntu 12.04 Alpha 1 when they officially release 12.04 LTS is it possible to keep all my settings when I upgrade?
[09:03] <KnorrieBorrie> e_t_: if the door-knock page is in un unknown place (un-announced/searchable), then the target box remains hidden to the public
[09:03] <Stanley00> !precise | aBound
[09:04] <KnorrieBorrie> e_t_: then the target box needs to be known to the source, therefore secure I would think
[09:04] <gribouille> can someone tell me if "amixer set Master off; amixer set Master on" works on oneiric?
[09:04] <e_t_> KnorrieBorrie: don't rely on security through obscurity. I'd install knockd on computer C, so you knock on it and it lets you in, without needing computer B.
[09:05] <KnorrieBorrie> e_t_: Okay, thanks. let me read some more about knockd
[09:06] <gribouille> can someone tell me if "amixer set Master off; amixer set Master on" works on oneiric?
[09:06] <mkanyicy> gribouille, me too
[09:06] <gribouille> mkanyicy, does it work or not?
[09:06] <mkanyicy> gribouille, there is a problem between headphones and computer speakers
[09:07] <rabbi1> i have a file in ubuntu and shared, how can a windows person and me access at the same time and edit at same time ?
[09:07] <gribouille> mkanyicy, what do you mean?
[09:07] <mkanyicy> gribouille, it works if you do it like:
[09:07] <mkanyicy> gribouille, 'amixer set Master on' and 'amixer set Headphone on' and 'amixer set Front on'
[09:08] <mjohn425> Stanley00 : I didn't at the time, I did a fresh install of windows since then so its gone now.
[09:08] <mkanyicy> gribouille, but i think there is still a problem though because that is just a workaround not how it should be, imo
[09:09] <e_t_> rabbi1: very few programs support multi-user editing in real time. That's one of the "killer features" of Google Docs.
[09:09] <gribouille> mkanyicy, you mean "amixer set Master off; amixer set Master on" doesn't work
[09:09] <gribouille> ?
[09:10] <rabbi1> e_t_: o, should only use google docs then ?
[09:10] <mkanyicy> gribouille, yes
[09:10] <e_t_> rabbi1: If Google Docs will do what you need, then that's what you should use.
[09:11] <mkanyicy> gribouille, on my machine
[09:11] <gribouille> mkanyicy, ok, thanks for your help
[09:11] <Stanley00> mjohn425: well, you can check that via your cd,
[09:12] <Stanley00> mjohn425: in the boot screen, there is an option let you check your cd.
[09:12] <mkanyicy> gribouille, np
[09:13] <rabbi1> e_t_: thanks
[09:14] <lalagirl> e_t_ is an extraterrestrial! watch out!
[09:14] <daedaluz> how do I decrease font size
[09:14] <lalagirl> e_t_ he's no normal human
[09:15] <e_t_> the ping time from Mars is horrendous.
[09:15] <mjohn425> Stanley00 I tried but just get stuck at attached scsi
[09:16] <share> I have an issue, sometimes when watching a video (using Nvidia's VDPAU) I hear a click and video freezes for 1 second and then continues to play normally
[09:16] <share> what click is that?
[09:16] <share> graphics card, sound?? cpu?
[09:16] <share> daedaluz: from where
[09:17] <daedaluz> share gnome
[09:17] <Stanley00> mjohn425: hmm, I dont think check disk will need load some driver, is your cdrom drive a scsi?
[09:19] <Raliegh> How do I install ".install" extensions in Ubuntu 11.04?
[09:20] <ortsvorsteher> Raliegh, normally you just have to run the file. open a terminal and ./filenam.install check the permissions before that it has executable rights
[09:24] <mjohn425> Stanley00 I wouldn't have a clue. I have an Acer Aspire 5750G if that helps
[09:25] <plouffe> "sudo ifconfig wlan1 up" will enable the wlan1 interface. How do I know which interfaces (such as wlan1) are available, if they're previously not listed under "sudo ifconfig"?
[09:26] <plouffe> Can I list available network interfaces that are not yet enabled?
[09:27] <Stanley00> mjohn425: first, you must make sure you download the correct iso, I mean there's no error in the transfer
[09:28] <soreau> plouffe: What are you trying to do exactly/
[09:28] <oCean> plouffe: iwconfig
[09:28] <xkitcheng> hi
[09:29] <plouffe> oCean, perfect, thanks
[09:29] <xkitcheng> i got a problem here... would anybody help me please.....
[09:29] <Matrixiumn> afk
[09:29] <soreau> ! ask | xkitcheng
[09:29] <txomon|nqas> Matrixiumn, /afk
[09:29] <txomon|nqas> s/afk/away
[09:30] <xkitcheng> i am using xubuntu and trying to share the files to another computer (thru the network) which is using win7
[09:30] <soreau> ! samba | xkitcheng
[09:30] <Matrixiumn> txomon|nqas, * afk :Unknown command
[09:31] <opalepatrick> Using ubuntu 11.10but having a problem with wi-fi driver ath9k_htc which appears to be a prob across distros.  wconfig shows 162+mb/s but speed tests rarely show above 1mb/s. Any ideas appreciated
[09:31] <xkitcheng> i installed the samba that already
[09:31] <txomon|nqas> Matrixiumn, /away I meant
[09:31] <soreau> Matrixiumn: He meant /away
[09:31] <xkitcheng> but i couldn't find the computer in the network under win7
[09:31] <opalepatrick> Also, I am using speedtest.net in a browser. Is this accurate?
[09:31] <share> !atd
[09:31] <Matrixiumn> txomon|nqas, I use that
[09:31] <txomon|nqas> oki
[09:32] <share> what is atd service??
[09:33] <axisys> what is a good desktop search tool available for ubuntu?
[09:33] <oCean> share: /usr/sbin/atd? It's to schedule jobs/commands
[09:34] <share> hm
[09:35] <iceroot> share: something like cron but only for one-time task with a specific date/time
[09:35] <abe_> how to setting usb modem to quick ???
[09:35] <iceroot> abe_: ?
[09:35] <abe_> how to set usb modem
[09:36] <iceroot> abe_: to what?
[09:36] <abe_> PC
[09:36] <iceroot> abe_: what is your foreing language? because your question does not make sense
[09:38] <share> he's from indonesia
[09:41] <abe_> how to usb modem settings for fast  connections ???
[09:41] <abe_> how to usb modem settings for fast  connections ??
[09:41] <theadmin> abe_: Ehhh... Well, it all depends on your mobile operator, really. If it's slow, change the operator or move to some other place...
[09:41] <share> abe_: are you talking about network manager settings?
[09:42] <abe_> yes share
[09:42] <android_> Hi!
[09:42] <Raliegh> What would be the quickest way for me to set-up an e-Mail forwarding for a single e-Mail on my server using my domain?
[09:42] <android_> Could you tell me please how to use Cisco Packet Tracer on ubuntu
[09:43] <share> abe_: are you using the modem now?
[09:43] <Zap-W> hi
[09:43] <ribot> hi
[09:43] <Zap-W> what does LTS mean?
[09:43] <theadmin> Zap-W: Long-Term Support
[09:43] <share> !lts
[09:43] <theadmin> !lts | Zap-W
[09:43] <ribot> for some reason i can't cd to a dir with permissions 660 even that i'm in the owner group
[09:44] <share> -.-
[09:44] <theadmin> ribot: duh
[09:44] <abe_> I've moved many times and places operators theadmin
[09:44] <android_> Please
[09:44] <theadmin> ribot: To cd to a directory you need to +x
[09:44] <abe_> yes i using usb modem now share
[09:44] <share> abe_: is it slow?
[09:44] <share> than usual?
[09:44] <ribot> theadmin: there is x too
[09:44] <Stanley00> android_: just install it, there a package in .deb file, AFAIK
[09:44] <theadmin> ribot: It needs to be executable for that, that's your problem, your current permissions are rw.
[09:44] <share> abe_: is it slower than usual?
[09:44] <Zap-W> what decisions are considered to declare a relase LTS??
[09:44] <Zap-W> is there some special in the release
[09:45] <abe_> yes
[09:45] <ribot> theadmin: no it's drwxrwx---
[09:45] <theadmin> Zap-W: LTS are released every 2 years IIRC
[09:45] <theadmin> ribot: You just said 660...
[09:45] <share> abe_: is there another computer using the internet connection?
[09:45] <lalagirl> Zap-W if you're a normal user, just use the latest version of Ubuntu
[09:45] <ribot> theadmin: well i didn't know how to convert that to numbers
[09:45] <theadmin> ribot: But okay, hm, then this is strange, is there anything awkward in the folder's ACL?
[09:45] <iceroot> Zap-W: lts are supported for 3 years with security updates, the newest lts which is coming next year is supported 5 years
[09:45] <ribot> theadmin: what's ACL?
[09:45] <abe_> nothing
[09:45] <share> abe_: maybe you have same internal IP address of another computer in your network...
[09:46] <iceroot> Zap-W: in my opinion lts releases are more stable then non-lts releases
[09:46] <ribot> theadmin: it's not installed
[09:46] <theadmin> ribot: Access Control List... I take it you're not fiddling with those if you don't even know what they are, but just in case, please: getfacl /path/to/folder
[09:46] <share> abe_: ping 8.8.8.8
[09:46] <abe_> nothing
[09:46] <abe_> This new modem  I bought along with the card
[09:46] <abe_> what is this ??
[09:46] <Zap-W> iceroot: why? packages are tested for intensly when an upcoming LTS is near?
[09:47] <Zap-W> more
[09:47] <share> abe_: hit ctrl+c to stop pinging.
[09:47] <iceroot> Zap-W: no
[09:47] <ribot> theadmin: command not found
[09:47] <iceroot> Zap-W: an lts release is designed for mayn years so the changes from 11.10 to 12.04 are not that big then 11.04 to 11.10
[09:47] <theadmin> ribot: Oh, okay, none of that then... Hm, weird... Are you allowed to access the directory your directory resides in?
[09:47] <abe_> yes already
[09:48] <iceroot> Zap-W: new things like unity are published in non-lts releases first
[09:48] <ribot> theadmin: yes
[09:48] <iceroot> Zap-W: but that is just my opionien about stbale and lts
[09:48] <ribot> theadmin: i can't even "sudo cd dir", as it says command not found
[09:48] <share> abe_: mine 64 bytes from 8.8.8.8: icmp_req=1 ttl=52 time=49.9 ms
[09:48] <theadmin> ribot: Because "cd" is not a command.
[09:48] <tfhlap> is there a good tool for downloads in slow connections - for ubuntu?
[09:49] <theadmin> ribot: It's a shell built-in. So far, I can only suggest you do "sudo -i" and cd to your directory.
[09:50] <iceroot> Zap-W: but there is no difference in "how good a release is tested before" its just a matter of changed which is pulled into a new release
[09:51] <iceroot> Zap-W: e.g. there is a big change in the future (maybe the biggest change in linux-history for the last years) which is called "wayland" that will never be published first in a lts-release
[09:51] <ribot> ok, thanks anyway theadmin
[09:52] <iceroot> tfhlap: cli? gui?
[09:53] <tfhlap> iceroot, i prefer gui, but command line is ok as well
[09:53] <Zap-W> iceroot: do you know from what kernel ver there was a major change in how X and the kernel use the graphics card
[09:53] <iceroot> tfhlap: for gui i would suggest the download-manager from your browser or "flashget" for the cli i would suggest "wget"
[09:54] <tfhlap> iceroot, I suddenly found myself on  a really slow connection, that keeps dropping, and I'm trying to get the tools I used 15 years ago
[09:54] <iceroot> Zap-W: there was a change about that on 2.6.32 (removing the flashing on boot) other changes i dont know
[09:54] <tfhlap> I downloaded stuff using wget, but I looks like some file got corrupted
[09:54] <iceroot> tfhlap: or rsync is a good way for that, there are also gui-variants of rsync
[09:55] <opalepatrick_> Here - http://wireless.kernel.org/en/users/Drivers/ath9k_htc - I am being asked to enable some options in the kernel config. How do I do this? Any how to?
[09:55] <iceroot> opalepatrick_: you can just put kernel-parameters to the grub-line
[09:55] <iceroot> !nox | opalepatrick_
[09:55] <iceroot> opalepatrick_: last link
[09:56] <opalepatrick_> cheers iceroot
[09:56] <iceroot> opalepatrick_: nox is just an example and is showing how to add kernel-parameters
[09:56] <opalepatrick_> got you. Can I do this on a running kernel?
[09:57] <opalepatrick_> iceroot. aah should have read it a bit more
[09:57] <iceroot> opalepatrick_: yes but a reboot is needed
[09:58] <iceroot> opalepatrick_: maybe there a ways too to put that on a running system buti dont know something about that
[09:58] <opalepatrick_> that is great iceroot
[10:02] <Raliegh> Good lord Fedora is TERRIBLE.
[10:02] <share> windows is terrible
[10:02] <share> xD
[10:02] <oCean> Raliegh: and offtopic here
[10:02]  * theadmin points at OS X
[10:02] <theadmin> Ah well never mind, offtopic indeed
[10:03] <Raliegh> oCean, there was no current topic.
[10:03] <oCean> Raliegh: there is, see /topic
[10:03] <theadmin> Raliegh: This channel is dedicated to Ubuntu support issues, anything else is not welcome
[10:03] <Raliegh> Technicalities. You know what I mean. And I wasn't asking for support I was stating an opin--- You know what, forget it.
[10:03] <iceroot> theadmin: especially os x!! :)
[10:03] <Raliegh> iceroot: offtopic here.
[10:04] <theadmin> iceroot: lol yeah, we were pointing out horrible things :P But oh well, never mind
[10:07] <Raliegh> Floodbot can get disconnected? o.o
[10:07] <theadmin> Raliegh: Happens randomly. Might be a netsplit for instance.
[10:08] <theadmin> Raliegh: Sometimes the systems they're on just get shut down, I beleive.
[10:08] <Raliegh> Ahh, makes sense.
[10:09] <xkitcheng> i am using the samba server controller and set the network, the same as win7, but i couldn't see the computer using xubuntu? read the links but...coudln't make it
[10:11] <artti> Hello! Is there option to install from usb without bios and cd support?
[10:12] <iceroot> artti: no
[10:12] <share> artti: how do you want usb to work without bios
[10:12] <iceroot> artti: if you mean "without usb-boot-option"
[10:12] <theadmin> iceroot: Why not?...
[10:12] <artti> Google also said no
[10:12] <theadmin> iceroot: There are bootloaders with USB support
[10:13] <theadmin> Install one, use that.
[10:13] <theadmin> What's the big problem?
[10:13] <SunTsu> artti: well, you could put grub onto a *shudder* floppy disk and use that to trigger that usb stick, but ...
[10:13] <iceroot> theadmin: grub2?
[10:13] <artti> No floppy disk
[10:13] <theadmin> iceroot: From Windows, I most commonly install PLOP to boot USBs when there's no BIOS support for that
[10:13] <theadmin> artti: ^
[10:14] <SunTsu> artti: then put it onto the harddisk if you have one you wish to install onto, but you'd probably will need to do that at another box
[10:14] <theadmin> artti: Are you running Windows atm?
[10:15] <artti> I was running windows, now screen gives me no default or ui configuration directive found!
[10:15] <theadmin> Huhwhat.
[10:15] <artti> After I tried to install xubuntu with unetbootin
[10:15] <theadmin> artti: err... Did you install on a hard drive?
[10:16] <artti> Yes.
[10:16] <theadmin> artti: That doesn't ever work -_-
[10:16] <theadmin> Oh well, I'll be going now
[10:16] <artti> But there's seemed an option.
[10:16] <artti> Darn,
[10:16] <hasher> Hello, in windows, i used to connect to internet using bluetooth dialup, i used my phone's bluetooth SPP profile and a dialer software for that and the connection would get established, i also used bluetooth dongle ofcourse,  now i want to implement the same idea in ubuntu since i cannot connect my phone through wire, only through bluetooth
[10:17] <SunTsu> hasher: use bluetooth serial module and use the tty as a modem
[10:18] <SunTsu> hasher: what you need is called rfcomm
[10:18] <hasher> can you tell me how? i am an amateur in all this, so can u tell mem SunTsu.......
[10:19] <SunTsu> hasher: google is able to tell you, just search for "bluetooth rfcomm ubuntu" - no need for me to paste what is written elsewhere
[10:19] <hasher> what is rfcomm?
[10:20] <hasher> ok
[10:20] <oCean> SunTsu: don't refer to google here in such way
[10:21] <hasher> i tried a few articles and it just does not work....SunTsu
[10:21] <SunTsu> oCean: Why not?
[10:22] <oCean> SunTsu: not acceptable by channel policy. It is not helpful, since not everyone knows how to handle google like you might
[10:23] <SunTsu> oCean: I even gave him the words to search for which I tried by myself. Why would I need to throw urls into the channel?
[10:23] <Stepnjump> Good morning. I'm trying to find out at what time I logged off my computer last night. What is the command to view ALL activity for yesterday on my computer please
[10:23] <oCean> SunTsu: not about to discuss channel rules here. You can join #ubuntu-ops if you wish.
[10:24] <SunTsu> hasher: what does "not working" mean? What did you do and what didn't work?
[10:24] <llutz> hasher: read this, try this, ask if you get stuck http://www.spiration.co.uk/post/1307/Ubuntu-Linux---Bluetooth-and-GPRS-dialup-connection
[10:26] <hasher> i tried the official article but i get stuck in between[ the output does not come as desired] so i installed blueman, now blueman is able to find and even connect to the SPP, it tells me that "serial port profile connected on dev/rfcomm" now what should i do?
[10:27] <SunTsu> hasher: use the newly created serial port i.e. tty as a modem, by the ways of modem-manager for instance
[10:28] <hasher> can you tell me what is tty and in my case, how to implement it? SunTsu
[10:29] <SunTsu> hasher: see the url llutz gave you. Your tty should be /dev/rfcomm0 which you can use in e.g. wvdial and nm-applet should know it and be able to use it as a modem
[10:29] <SunTsu> hshow exactly depends on your mobile internet provider
[10:29] <lalagirl> llutz I LOVE YOU!
[10:30] <lalagirl> llutz I told you I would be back!
[10:30] <llutz> lalagirl: oops, too late. (already married)
[10:30] <lalagirl> llutz lol
[10:31] <feisar> hi, can I add an audio device to Ubuntu's openjre install - it looks like it only has one mixer and that's a virtual pulse one
[10:31] <iceroot> llutz: for that there is "umount" :)
[10:32] <llutz> iceroot: that'll be followed by "mv $HOME somewhere/" i couldn't afford
[10:32] <hasher> hope thi is of some use http://imagebin.org/190509
[10:33] <sorush20> hi just wanted to know if there is a program out there that allowes batch folder time stamp and file time stam changing?
[10:33] <hasher> as you can see there is a serial port connected balloon on the top right side, can you tell me how to proceed?
[10:33] <iceroot> llutz: nice one :)
[10:35] <hasher> SunTsu, from where should i start?
[10:37] <SunTsu> hasher: you're half way there. Now use your network manager to create a new dialup connection, maybe as broadband mobile connection, using your mobile inter provider's data
[10:38] <Krissh> Hello
[10:38] <Krissh> Hello is anyone here?
[10:38] <hasher> SunTsu, i am not getting any such option in my nm-applet!
[10:38] <SunTsu> sorush20: you can do that by means of find and touch - touch has a -t option to specify the date/time you want to set
[10:38] <llutz> hasher: sudo apt-get install modemmanager
[10:38] <SunTsu> hasher: is modem-manager installed/running?
[10:39] <hasher> dont know...
[10:39] <SunTsu> hasher: well, then find out. ps auxww|grep modem
[10:39] <hasher> llutz, it says modemmanager is already newest version
[10:39] <Krissh> Hello can some1 help me im new here?
[10:40] <SunTsu> !ask | Krissh
[10:40] <SunTsu> !details | Krissh
[10:40] <anand> shit
[10:40] <Ben64> !language | anand
[10:41] <Krissh> ok Thank - Hello i have windows 7, vista , Ubuntu using Wubi  , and i would like to install Kubuntu through Wubi is this possible
[10:41] <anand> sorry
[10:41] <anand> ubottu: sorry
[10:41] <hasher> here's the output i am getting http://imagebin.org/190511
[10:42] <Krissh> So is it possible for me to install Kubuntu
[10:42] <SunTsu> Krissh: you certainly can install ubuntu and do apt-get install kubuntu-desktop there
[10:42] <Krissh> but cant i install Kubutu sepratly throguh wubi?
[10:43] <Krissh> and have them both?
[10:43] <iceroot> Krissh: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[10:43] <iceroot> Krissh: no need for an extra installation of ubuntu
[10:43] <SunTsu> Krissh: kubuntu and ubuntu don't really differ much, what's the deal in having "both"?
[10:44] <Krissh> oh ok thanks
[10:44] <Krissh> Thank you :) and Thank You for your help will try this now :)
[10:44] <hasher> SunTsu, hope u read the output, willing to go forward....
[10:44] <SunTsu> hasher: try service modemmanager restart and look into nm-applet afterwards
[10:45] <hasher> how to restart modem manager?
[10:45] <SunTsu> hasher: "service modemmanager restart" as I wrote the line before
[10:45] <hasher> ok wait
[10:46] <hasher> it says
[10:46] <hasher> it says  "modemmanager: unrecognized service"
[10:46] <Ben64> How can I make the update-notifier icon appear when _any_ updates are available?
[10:47] <SunTsu> hasher: which version of ubuntu are you running? please do "lsb_release -a | pastebinit"
[10:47] <SunTsu> and paste the url here
[10:48] <hasher> 11.04
[10:48] <hasher> 32bit
[10:49] <SunTsu> hasher: maybe it's model-manager there, with an extra dash. And please put a "sudo " in front of the command
[10:49] <hasher> hmm ok
[10:50] <dmtarmey> hello does anyone know if there is a programme that will shut down all the services i dont need to run so there is more system available for the programs im running such as games
[10:51] <hasher> still the same " modemmanager: unrecognized service " error maybe i have not edited any conf file, should i edit any of those or will it work bcos i dont think i have edited any hehe
[10:52] <blocky> how can I set which session is started via autologin in 11.10?
[10:53] <SunTsu> hasher: try "modem-manager" instead of "modemmanager"
[10:54] <hasher> same error, SunTsu, do I have to edit every conf file?
[10:57] <SunTsu> hasher: please do ls -l /etc/init.d/*modem*|pastebinit
[10:58] <hasher> ls: cannot access /etc/init.d/*modem*: No such file or directory
[11:03] <eutheria> stupid empathy won't remember any account info
[11:03] <hasher> ????
[11:04] <SunTsu> hasher: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingModemmanager - try to do what's under "Get Debug Logs" starting with "sudo stop network-manager" and paste the log into http://goo.gl/ixcN9 after opening nm-applet and tryng to add a new dialup/mobile broadband connection
[11:04] <chiiiiiz> hello!!
[11:04] <SunTsu> !patience | hasher
[11:04] <chiiiiiz> Can anyone help me with the command find?
[11:04] <SunTsu> chiiiiiz: only if you tell use your problem
[11:04] <chiiiiiz> I have used photorec to retrieve files on a hard drive, where the partition table, boot sector had vanished....
[11:04] <SunTsu> !details > chiiiiiz
[11:05] <hasher> thanks for the suggestion, ubottu, but i spent half of the time searching for the answer
[11:05] <pnorman> !bot
[11:05] <chiiiiiz> I have now 495 directories, with all kind of files mixed.
[11:07] <hasher> if i kill the network manager, will my internet connection in which i am having the conversation with you people get disconnected?
[11:08] <tiber> hi everybody
[11:08] <Guest39839> SunTsu: Hello, see my details
[11:09] <SunTsu> hasher: no, you won't
[11:09] <Guest39839> I will come back in a minute
[11:09] <tiber> i'm trying filtering my log file (/var/log/messages) by date with this command : echo /var/log/messages | grep `date` >> lol.txt ... but it doesn't work... please help .
[11:11] <SunTsu> tiber: first of all "cat somefile | grep something"is overkill, it's "grep somthing somefile".
[11:11] <chiiiiiz> test
[11:12] <tiber> ok
[11:12] <SunTsu> tiber: second: when running `date` you probably get spaces, which are command line separators
[11:13] <hasher> hope its useful... http://pastebin.com/JGzh0aaa
[11:14] <llutz> tiber: and date-format may differ from that one used in logfiles, depending on locale-settings
[11:14] <SunTsu> tiber: third: date probably hands out a different date format than you have in the log file, so you need to use date's format capability to model the same date format used in the log file
[11:14] <tiber> SunTsu - llutz: how do you would wrtite
[11:14] <tiber> SunTsu - llutz: how do you would write the line ?
[11:16] <llutz> tiber: 1st make sure "date" has the same format. grep "$(date -some-formats)" /var/log/messages
[11:16] <SunTsu> tiber: why do you want to filter to begin with?
[11:17] <tiber> SunTsu: i just installed sshd and i'd like to check all the logins :)
[11:17] <SunTsu> hasher: You should be able to add a mobile broadband connection now, the log says that it grabbed /dev/rfcomm0 as a modem
[11:18] <hasher> SunTsu, the nm-applet has disappeared from my panel, what to do?
[11:18] <SunTsu> tiber: then I'd rather use syslog's capabilities of creading a separate ssh.log, using newsyslog to rotate it daily
[11:18] <ix_> hello, I've just deleted my partition table, any ideas?
[11:18] <SunTsu> hasher: did you restart network-manager?
[11:18] <SunTsu> ix_: use gpart to recover it
[11:18] <metaspike> lx_ create a new one with gparted, or use testdisk to recover it
[11:18] <tiber> SunTsu: yes ... i installed syslog-ng
[11:18] <hasher> no, tell me how to restart it
[11:19] <ribot> re
[11:19] <ix_> SunTsu, I was just doing that, thank you
[11:19] <SunTsu> ix_: but beware, there's dragons ahead, better grab an image of your whole disk before doing that
[11:19] <tiber> SunTsu: but i'd like to be able to build a script by myself :P
[11:19] <chiiiiiz> ix: try TestDisk (http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=testfile%20photorec&source=web&cd=2&ved=0CCUQFjAB&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.cgsecurity.org%2Fwiki%2FTestDisk_Download&ei=rKn5TuyHPMaw8gPor-i9AQ&usg=AFQjCNF3zxalOKxAsYadV-vfWEDZq5XLcg&cad=rja)
[11:19] <ribot> is there some good ftp batch script out there, i want to do some local mysql dump and file backup, and then the script should upload it through sftp
[11:19] <ix_> chiiiiiz, use url shorteners, please
[11:19] <chiiiiiz> I have spent my whole day with it, and it works well!!
[11:19] <sabgenton> how do I ask dpkg for packages containing the file bla?
[11:20] <chiiiiiz> sorry, not used to it...
[11:20] <SunTsu> tiber: if you want to be able to build that script yourself, why ask us how we would write the line? use man pages to figure it out yourself
[11:20] <sabgenton> actually expat.h
[11:20] <tiber> SunTsu: because i didn't successed
[11:20] <chiiiiiz> ix: http://tiny.cc/uo2e7
[11:20] <hasher> the option is not there SunTsu
[11:21] <metaspike> sabgenton, dpkg-query -l | grep "foo"    is one way
[11:21] <SunTsu> tiber: well, look at the log's date format, look at date's an page and just try.
[11:21] <ix_> chiiiiiz, thanks
[11:21] <tiber> SunTsu: ok
[11:21] <ix_> well, all this started from a bad grub configuration
[11:21] <ix_> so I thought of deleting the mbr
[11:21] <almoxarife> tiber: what is the version of the machine doing the reading?
[11:21] <Leeds1> Hey all, I'm trying to reinstall ubuntu, but I only have a knoppix live cd...can anyone tell me where to start?
[11:22] <hasher> if i close the terminal, the network manager button disappears
[11:22] <SunTsu> hasher: please run "sudo start network-manager"
[11:22] <chiiiiiz> ix: what does Gparted say? Does it find anything?
[11:22] <llutz> tiber: if you use "date" without any formats, it will include the actual time. this is very unlikely what you want to grep for in log-files
[11:22] <ix_> chiiiiiz, gparted says that the partition table is gone with the wind
[11:23] <ix_> but everything works fine
[11:23] <ix_> until I reboot, of course
[11:23] <hasher> got it, but the bluetooth option is not there! SunTsu
[11:23] <SunTsu> tiber: another hint, you might want to set LANG=C just to be sure
[11:23] <metaspike> Leeds1, got any spare writeables?
[11:23] <metaspike> Leeds1, writable cds.
[11:23] <Leeds1> loads, but I can't burn when I'm in a live session (my previous ubuntu install broke down completely)
[11:24] <SunTsu> hasher: forget about bluetooth, you handled the bluetooth part already. You need to add a dial up connection, modem connection, mobile broadband connection, however it's called for you
[11:24] <hasher> ok..
[11:24] <hasher> now?
[11:24] <chiiiiiz> ix: whoa!! I would give a try at TestDisk... it will sweep the whole drive bit-after-bit, until it finds the structure (QuickSearch, takes approx. 2 hrs for 500 Gb), or until it finds a backup partition table or boot sector (DeeperSearch)...
[11:24] <SunTsu> hasher: you can do it whenever you like
[11:25] <hasher> how?thats the question
[11:25] <metaspike> Leeds1, when booting knoppix. boot with "knoppix toram"   then you can eject the cd and write a new one once its loaded.
[11:25] <chiiiiiz> But maybe there is a faster solution, since you are still on, but I do not know this one...
[11:25] <SunTsu> hasher: I already told you that twice. Open your network manager, probably by ways of nm-applet and add a connection
[11:25] <chiiiiiz> Can anyone give me a hand with my 'find' problem?
[11:26] <SunTsu> chiiiiiz: you didn't tell us any detail
[11:26] <Leeds1> ahhh thank you metaspike! I may be back
[11:26] <chiiiiiz> ix: after second thought, I am not sure TestDisk can sweep the partition that is currently running...
[11:27] <ix_> right now gpart is scanning
[11:27] <chiiiiiz> Sorry, I had connection problems... thought I did it
[11:27] <hasher> http://imagebin.org/190516 SunTsu, the option is not showing up, there IS NO device man
[11:27] <ix_> I wonder how much it will scan, my hdd is pretty small
[11:27] <detrix42> Hello. On Ubuntu 10.04(Natty) handbrake worked. Handbrake is not yet updated for Oneiric.  How do I get the older version of handbrake to work with Oneiric?
[11:27] <chiiiiiz> Photorec (file retrieval ) created 495 directories with all kinds of files in them...
[11:27] <hasher> I mean on that list, SunTsu
[11:28] <ix_> chiiiiiz, I don't need photorec
[11:28] <ix_> I still ahve everything
[11:28] <ix_> have
[11:28] <chiiiiiz> I am trying to sort them by mime type, one type per directory. Here is my command:
[11:28] <SunTsu> hasher: just add your isp's details in there
[11:28] <chiiiiiz> find  -iname "*.doc" -exec cp {} /home/fred/partition/RECUPFILES/doc/\;
[11:28] <hasher> i added everything u can think off[ in that window atleast]
[11:28] <chiiiiiz> but it returns "missing parameter for "-exec"
[11:29] <bps_> 1
[11:29] <bps_> root
[11:30] <SunTsu> chiiiiiz: just add a space in front of your \;
[11:30] <chiiiiiz> ix: any chance to make an image of your HDD on another hdd? It is also possible with TestDisk!
[11:31] <ix_> this is a laptop and I don't have what I need for that
[11:31] <hasher> SunTsu, can you assist me remotely?
[11:31] <ix_> I don't have an external HDD, that would be easy
[11:31] <chiiiiiz> ooh!! That simple?
[11:31] <SunTsu> hasher: I refuse to, I already took you by the hand for over an hour
[11:32] <chiiiiiz> SunTsu: it works! Thanks!
[11:32] <hasher> i think it will be quick and sweatless SunTsu if you agree for remote assistance
[11:32] <SunTsu> chiiiiiz: without it find takes that semicolon as part of your path specification, couldn't separate it
[11:32] <manchot> salut
[11:33] <SunTsu> hasher: ask another time and I'll put you onto ignore
[11:33] <hasher> ok....
[11:33] <SunTsu> hasher: do your mobile internet connection details?
[11:33] <SunTsu> know even
[11:33] <manchot> good a channel in english
[11:34] <hasher> yeah i know...
[11:34] <chiiiiiz> SunTsu: ok, now I have to write the code to have it done automatically, with all kinds of mime types...
[11:36] <SunTsu> chiiiiiz: for extension in doc pdf xls <and so on>; do mkdir /home/fred/partition/RECUPFILES/$extension; find . -iname \*.$extension -exec cp {} /home/fred/partition/RECUPFILES/$extension/ \; ; done
[11:36] <manchot> what's the command that allows record the web page into shell ?
[11:36] <hasher> SunTsu, i gave you the pastebin link in that the last line it says ignoring rfcomm [ no associated Bluetooth device] why is it so?
[11:37] <SunTsu> manchot: wget? curl?
[11:37] <chiiiiiz> SunTsu: thanks
[11:37] <almoxarife> hasher: what 'exactly' are you trying to accomplish, not what you think you need to do to get there, but exactly what would be accomplished when complete?
[11:38] <manchot> SunTsu:  ok think you i test
[11:38] <hasher> i am trying to get an average internet connection from dialup
[11:39] <SunTsu> hasher: I don't know why it does it, maybe pasting dmesg and/or /dev/log/syslog might shine a light on it
[11:40] <almoxarife> hasher: how was shutting down network manager going to get that done?
[11:40] <hasher> how do I get a log?
[11:40] <SunTsu> almoxarife: it was done to get debug log files, we already restarted it again
[11:41] <SunTsu> hasher: you really should try to get some linux basics
[11:41] <SunTsu> hasher: they are at /var/log
[11:42] <hasher> how do I get the log files?tell me man I am very weak in linux am trying to learn all the way up....
[11:42] <almoxarife> hasher: reboot your system, I can't see you restoring from a shutdown of network-manager
[11:43] <SunTsu> hasher: somebody else might need to take it from here, almoxarife seems to have volunteered for that
[11:43] <hasher> i got it!! SunTsu
[11:43] <hasher> pasting it
[11:43] <SunTsu> almoxarife: he did, when I told him to "sudo start network-manager". And why would one need to reboot the computer for that?
[11:44] <almoxarife> SunTsu: he got it, no need
[11:44] <hasher> http://pastebin.com/HPcwDgib SunTsu
[11:45] <hasher> http://pastebin.com/HPcwDgib SunTsu
[11:46] <SunTsu> hasher: btw. you probably need to pair your telefone to the computer in order to have rfcomm0 finding a suitable bluetooth device
[11:47] <hasher> i have paired it SunTsu
[11:47] <SunTsu> hasher: did you connect it and is it connected currently?
[11:47] <hasher> it is connected
[11:47] <SunTsu> hasher: does it allow for modem usage?
[11:48] <hasher> yeah
[11:48] <hasher> very much so
[11:49] <hasher> how do I edit rfcomm0.conf?
[11:49] <SunTsu> hasher: did your do sudo /usr/bin/rfcomm bind?
[11:49] <hasher> should I be editing that file in the first place?
[11:49] <SunTsu> hasher: please, try to grab some basic linux knowledge as soon as you can
[11:50] <hasher> sure, if someone tells me then, can u tell psz
[11:50] <SunTsu> hasher: sudoedit /etc/bluetooth/rfcomm.conf
[11:52] <hasher> http://imagebin.org/190518 SunTsu
[11:52] <SunTsu> hasher: anyway, I really need to be going, spending too much time here already
[11:52] <hasher> is that ok can u tell me?
[11:54] <hasher> what's wrong? can u tell me? are we missing something?
[11:55] <SunTsu> hasher: except of the stray space before that semicolon, and me not knowing of channel 11 would work, it looks quite OK.
[11:55] <SunTsu> hasher: but, as I said, I need to be going, good look with it
[11:55] <hasher> ok thanks
[11:56] <teemo> im trying to follow the instructions at: http://www.webupd8.org/2010/10/create-bootable-windows-7-usb-drive.html - I downloaded "unetbootin-linux-494" from the link, and according to the instructions all i need to do is - "check the "Allow executing file as program" box. Then simply double click it and it should open."
[11:56] <teemo> So im not sure how to run the executable?
[11:57] <teemo> That is i did check the checkbox, and double-clicked, and nothing happens
[11:57] <teemo> im on ubuntu 11.04
[11:58] <nio707> hello all
[11:59] <nio707> there seems to be problem in my sound driver in my laptop after i click the update notification. i had later try to solve the problem by upgrading alsa and pulse but it didn't help
[12:00] <yabai> teemo: you need to change the permissions for the file so it can execute
[12:00] <nio707> the sound is working but with poor quality
[12:00] <teemo> yabai: change it to what?
[12:01] <scx_> hello
[12:02] <nio707> scx_ hello
[12:02] <yabai> teemo: can you right click and change permissions?
[12:02] <yabai> teemo: just like the instructions state
[12:02] <scx_> can you show me: apt-cache policy resolvconf isc-dhcp-client dhcp3-client?
[12:02] <teemo> I have the "Allow executing file as program" checked, and the owner access is Read and write and the group is Read and write
[12:02] <teemo> what else do I need to do?
[12:03] <yabai> try running it from the command line and post the error
[12:03] <teemo> command not found?
[12:04] <eutheria> can evolution have tighter integration into gnome shell?
[12:04] <teemo> i tried "./unetbootin-linux-494" and got nothing
[12:05] <hasher> hello almoxarife
[12:05] <yabai> teemo: read the instructions here:  http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/#other
[12:06] <Matrixiumn> bye
[12:07] <teemo> yabai: i did, any specific part I might have missed?
[12:07] <mang0_> EveRight, my problem is this: I've done ctrl + alt + f2, and now I need to get out of it...how?!
[12:07] <mang0_> Everyone*
[12:07] <dominik> csááááááááááááááá
[12:07] <mang0_> ?
[12:08] <llutz> mang0_: alt-ctrl-F7
[12:08] <mang0_> llutz: : Okay, thanks :)
[12:09] <yabai> teemo: can't think of anything - you might start over and d/l the current version - not very complicated, so not sure what your issue is
[12:09] <teemo> i actually need the older version 494
[12:10] <chiiiiiz> SunTsu: Is there a way to calculate the size of all files retrieved by the command 'find'?
[12:10] <teemo> the newever version supposedly doesn't support ntfs
[12:10] <teemo> im just surprised i cant simply run the executable, it seems no one complained about this before me
[12:10] <yabai> teemo: where is unetbootin located on your system?
[12:10] <teemo> in my downloads folder
[12:11] <yabai> are you trying to start it from the terminal in that folder?
[12:11] <teemo> yes
[12:11] <teemo> ls, shows it
[12:11] <mang0_> llutz: What about if I need to end a process? I've been using a program and it crashed, so I use ctrl + alt + f2 to get here, but I need to force quit that program. Is it `ps` to see what processes are running, and then kill -9 process_id
[12:12] <yabai> teemo: try changing permissions using sudo chmod +x
[12:12] <yabai> teemo: then sudo to start
[12:12] <mang0> llutz: Fixed. :)
[12:12] <mang0> but now mang0 is logged in
[12:12] <mang0> mang0_*
[12:12] <mang0> grr
[12:13] <llutz> mang0: pkill "part of processname"
[12:13] <teemo> to start do i need ./ ?
[12:13] <mang0> llutz:, thanks.
[12:13] <ribot> hi
[12:13] <duskyrose> hi
[12:14] <ribot> if i put files in /etc/cron.hourly -- what user will run these files?
[12:14] <teemo> it wont run!
[12:14] <duskyrose> hi ribot.  i am very new to ubuntu chat as well
[12:14] <yabai> teemo: have you fufilled this: Additional dependencies (Linux Only): You will need the packages syslinux and p7zip-full installed
[12:14] <duskyrose> i'm hoping to learn a few things here.  :)
[12:14] <teemo> sudo ./unetbootin-linux-494
[12:15] <yabai> teemo: got to read
[12:15] <mang0_> How do I close irssi from being in ctrl + alot + f2?
[12:15] <llutz> ribot: root
[12:15] <teemo> that must be it
[12:15] <teemo> so how can i get them?
[12:15] <mang0_> llutz: How would I exit from irssi in the ctrl +alt + f2 prompt?
[12:16] <llutz> mang0_: /quit
[12:16] <yabai> teemo: maybe they are in the repos
[12:16] <mang0_> llutz: Oh god, ofc. *facepalm* thanks for your help!
[12:16] <Amdpc> Hi...Is there any sms sender desktop application available ? I am in India.
[12:16] <chiiiiiz> just for information, I have the solution of my last question: (size of the files retrieved by find):
[12:16] <yabai> teemo: apt-cache search whatever program
[12:16] <yabai> teemo: then apt-get install
[12:16] <ribot> llutz: thanks
[12:17] <chiiiiiz> find ~/folder/ -type f -name *.jpg | xargs stat -c %s | awk '{a+=$1;print a}' |tail -1
[12:17] <yabai> Amdpc: think google offerstthat kind of service
[12:17] <chiiiiiz> gives you the sum of the size of all jpg files included in the 'folder'
[12:18] <Amdpc> yabai : What do I have to do for it ?
[12:19] <yabai> Amdpc: check this:  http://www.google.com/mobile/sms/
[12:19] <lalagirl> !hello
[12:20] <makalo10> hello
[12:20] <chiiiiiz> One more question: I do list my jpg with find, and I want the output of the find command to be written in a text file....
[12:20] <ix_> ;)
[12:20] <chiiiiiz> Problem: it does not list beyond 63536 lines... how can I have more than that?
[12:20] <llutz> chiiiiiz: find bla >textfile
[12:20] <ix_> chiiiiiz, I recovered my partition table with testdisk
[12:21] <chiiiiiz> llutz: i did it, but I have "only" the first 63536 lines... and I know there are more...
[12:21] <chiiiiiz> ix: good to hear it!!
[12:21] <teemo> yabai: so i installed them and its still not working
[12:22] <teemo> where did u get the list of dependencies from?
[12:22] <yabai> teemo: sorry...got no more ideas for you.
[12:23] <chiiiiiz> this comes from a limitation in textfiles, I think... any way to solve this problem?
[12:23] <llutz> chiiiiiz: "man split"
[12:23] <chiiiiiz> thanks
[12:24] <duskyrose> this has been very interesting.  I look forward to visiting again.
[12:24] <lalagirl> I LOVE UBUNTU! EVERYONE WHO LOVES UBUNTU SHARE THE LOVE!!!
[12:24] <lalagirl> sorry llutz, i love ubuntu now
[12:24] <lalagirl> llutz: lol
[12:25] <tobiiiwan> Load Average: 4.13 3.86 3.25
[12:25] <lalagirl> !info IRC
[12:26] <yabai> teemo: you migt add the repo and let apt install: https://launchpad.net/~gezakovacs/+archive/ppa
[12:27] <yabai> teemo: looks like they have the version you looking for
[12:27] <lalagirl> no one is sharing the love? :(
[12:27] <chiiiiiz> llutz: If I am right, split splits a file... not the output of a command...
[12:27] <lalagirl> !info hello
[12:27] <llutz> chiiiiiz: pipe finds output throug split into files
[12:27] <yabai> lalagirl: must be in the evening where you are...too early for me to "share the love"
[12:27] <chiiiiiz> llutz: ok, I am lost....
[12:28] <lalagirl> yabai its 7:28AM here
[12:28] <yabai> lalagirl: wow!  i gotta get what you got
[12:28] <lalagirl> yabai: on top of that, i didn't sleep all night
[12:28] <DoctorPepper> hi guys!!!
[12:29] <michalchik> Hi
[12:29] <chiiiiiz> llutz: would this be it:   find bla | split nberoflines
[12:29] <lalagirl> OMG DoctorPepper!!
[12:29] <ichbinder> hello. Is there a way to easily save all open programs and their current state in a workspace so it can be loaded and continued later on?
[12:29] <lalagirl> I want some
[12:29] <llutz> chiiiiiz: man split (-l no-of-lines)
[12:29] <michalchik> lalagirl: you seem to talk in song lyrics
[12:30] <lalagirl> michalchik lol
[12:30] <ichbinder> like a session manager or something like that
[12:31] <yabai> ichbinder: screen can do it in the terminal
[12:31] <yabai> ichbinder: but i bet you using gui
[12:32] <ichbinder> yabai: well, I know and use screen and it was developed at my university. They'd kill me if I wouldn't use it. ;) But yeah, I specifically mean my guy desktop session... probably, #gnome or so might be a better place to ask...
[12:33] <michalchik> Am I the only person the world that hates STEAM.
[12:33] <ichbinder> yabai: thanks for answering!
[12:33] <ichbinder> michalchik: nope.
[12:33] <lalagirl> michalchik: not at all
[12:33] <michalchik> They have never worked properly for me. 3 different computers, 4 differnt OS's.
[12:34] <lalagirl> michalchik: and it was supposed to be a question
[12:34] <ichbinder> michalchik: well, it *worked* properly for me
[12:34] <michalchik> They crash, f'up my pass words, take hours to send me resets and whne they do they don't f'ing owrk
[12:34] <oCean> michalchik: if you have to obfuscate your words, don't use them
[12:35] <michalchik> Well would people rather nothave me swear at all or not censor at all?
[12:35] <michalchik> self-censor
[12:36] <oCean> michalchik: don't swear at all here
[12:36] <ichbinder> michalchik: But: I personally hate all those systems that just make it a bit more complicated to illegaly play games... I mean, I bought a game, legally! Payed like $60 for it. Then, my friends get it illegally, play it together. I can't join them with my legal version as it won't let me use their VPN network. So either I get illegal to play with my friends or I play alone... And that was even developed by Valve...
[12:36] <yabai> ichbinder: http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/hardy/man1/xsm.1.html
[12:37] <ichbinder> yabai: uh, nice! that sounds like what I was looking for!!!
[12:37] <michalchik> Yeah, I bought mass effect 2 legally and tried to buy the DLC through steam Legally, it messed up my install so bad I could buy it and had to get the pirate copy just to play what I bought.
[12:38] <lalagirl> !illegal
[12:38] <dmtarmey> hello has anyone tested pear os an ubuntu derivative with mac menus
[12:38] <ichbinder> michalchik: yeah, that's what I so love about all those "account" games... If you pay, you get in a bigger mess than if you get it illegally...
[12:39] <lalagirl> !illegal | ichbinder
[12:39] <ichbinder> lalagirl: I'm not promoting software piracy!
[12:39] <gribouille> when will firefox 9 be available?
[12:39] <ichbinder> michalchik: we are offtopic.. let's stop. :)
[12:39] <lalagirl> ichbinder: but you're still talking about it
[12:39] <michalchik> IS obottu a person or a bot?
[12:39] <lalagirl> michalchik: a bot
[12:39] <oCean> !bot > michalchik
[12:40] <yabai> dmtarmey: looks like OSX
[12:40] <yabai> dmtarmey: i guess thats the point
[12:41] <gribouille> why is firefox 9 available only in ubuntu-mozilla-security?
[12:41] <zaikxtox> hi. question... i have a system with ubuntu 9.10. from some time to now i was unable to find mirrors for apt repository
[12:41] <michalchik> I am a complete ubuntu newbie though I have been messing around with computers for decades. Can I ask some dumb questions?
[12:41] <zaikxtox> where could they be found?
[12:41] <zaikxtox> michalchik, dumb questions are the best one's . go ahead
[12:41] <michalchik> Thx
[12:42] <oCean> zaikxtox: that's because 9.10 is EOL, repositories moved to old-releases.ubuntu.com
[12:42] <lalagirl> !help
[12:42] <michalchik> So I am coming over from windows andI really know virtually noneof the basics, si I figure. HmmmI'll try to lean by installing a game
[12:42] <zaikxtox> that's what i needed to know! thanks a lot oCean
[12:43] <Pricey> michalchik: If you're looking to use Ubuntu as a "replacement" for Windows... to run Windows games... you should stick with WIndows.
[12:44] <michalchik> OK I try to install runes of magiv a gold game by WINE HQ, it says it requires IE7 but I keep getting errors, something about language missing. What do i do now?
[12:44] <dmtarmey> yabai have you tried it
[12:44] <lalagirl> michalchik Windows, PC in general is a gaming platform as well
[12:44] <fizyplankton> i just installed a new graphics card and after about 14 hours of xorging, the network manager applet has a different icon. rather than a dark icon like the default, it has a white icon, like a different theme. it looks terrible, and is almost impossible to read on the white background. does anyone know how to force it back to normal?
[12:44] <yabai> dmtarmey: nope
[12:44] <lalagirl> michalchik Ubuntu wouldn't really have the games you're looking for
[12:45] <oCean> michalchik: there's a free download for the ubuntu 10.10 guide http://ubuntu-manual.org/ - even though it's 10.10, lot's of the info is still very useful. Also see help.ubuntu.com
[12:45] <yabai> michalchik: you may be happier with Windows...wine w/ many apps is sort of a comprimise
[12:45] <ichbinder> michalchik: Linux, hence also Ubuntu, cannot make use of DirectX, a graphical base that most modern games need. Only OpenGL games will smoothly run in linux, maybe even natively. Else, you will need to use wine, which can be very annoying or not easy to do. So for gaming, stay with windows. For everything else, go with linux!! :)
[12:46] <odst0016> very true thats the only reason windows is on my machine
[12:46] <michalchik> So just do the duel boot thing?
[12:46] <yabai> michalchik: i'm sure there are some great linux games
[12:46] <lalagirl> michalchik: that would be a good option
[12:47] <lalagirl> michalchik use wubi
[12:47] <lalagirl> !wubi | michalchik
[12:47] <michalchik> Yeah, I am trying to move off windows, first because I hate monopolies and second because my damnmachine crashed about 5 times last year and got a couple tojans
[12:47] <ichbinder> michalchik: that's how I'd do it. I mean, if you want to learn a bit about wine, install games like "Planescape: Torment", "Final Fantasy 7", "Counterstrike 1.6", or games of similar age. But you won't be able to play more modern directX based games, afaik.
[12:48] <odst0016> if you want an easier way to install games you can install playonlinux
[12:48] <odst0016> it does it for you
[12:48] <gribouille> when will firefox 9 be available?
[12:48] <ichbinder> yabai, michalchik: nice linux games include "Spring" for Strategy or Sauerbraten for Online Ego-Shooter.
[12:48] <lalagirl> !firefox
[12:48] <michalchik> Well half my reason for trying to install a game is to learn about linus
[12:48] <zaikxtox> michaelni, there are some thing at which windows excels, like games support. if you already have a windows license just use it for that! Like having a wii. Works great for that.
[12:49] <ichbinder> michalchik: but installing a game won't teach you anything about linux. ;)
[12:49] <lalagirl> !linus
[12:49] <odst0016> just how to follow directions lol
[12:49] <michalchik> Well, if that is true I guess I won't then
[12:49] <yabai> ichbinder: thanks...not a gamer...
[12:49] <dmtarmey> yabai do you know a know a version optermised for game playing
[12:50] <yabai> dmtarmey: nope. i'm not a gamer, but any linux distro could be optimized for gaming
[12:50] <michalchik> So I got the latest version of ununti as of about a week ago. 11.10? I think. Is it the best version to go with?
[12:50] <odst0016> saboyan use to have an optimized gaming versoin
[12:50] <yabai> dmtarmey: ubuntu probably a good distro, lot of community support
[12:51] <odst0016> idk if they have updated it
[12:51] <michalchik> So why do you folks use Ubuntu
[12:51] <odst0016> the community
[12:51] <zaikxtox> michalchik, I have 10 people with thinclients
[12:52] <zaikxtox> they boot the main ubuntu server OS from net
[12:52] <zaikxtox> and so i can manage everything in the same place, they share resources, etc.
[12:52] <ichbinder> michalchik: if you are a true linux noob, start with Ubuntu and you'll learn some stuff about linux. Maybe, do not use Unity but something less fancy, like Xfce or even KDE. Or, if it's no problem for you if you might also have to reinstall your windows, i.e. if you don't have much data on it or all of it is securly backed up, you can also try to install a more complex linux distro like Arch Linux. You'll learn more about basic
[12:52] <ichbinder> linux ideas during the installion then with Ubunut, imho, and the community and documentation is very good. But well, it's more complicated and you'll have to start off with a terminal only and setup everything else by hand.
[12:52] <zaikxtox> michalchik, my wife uses it because she doesn't like windows but there is no MacOSX for ther netbook, and liked it
[12:53] <zaikxtox> michalchik, my mother because it's easy and don't get messed up as often as her  old windowsXP... it depends
[12:53] <xuser1> hi
[12:53] <zaikxtox> michalchik, I personally like it being like debian in many ways, that is my true love from servers experience and realtime audio processing
[12:54] <xuser1> how can i install awn in u untu oneiric (LAST VERSION)?
[12:54] <Stanley00> !info awn
[12:54] <ichbinder> michalchik: various reasons, I guess. It's safer, less vulnerable. It's easier to install than most other distros. Sometimes it's also because the environment your working community uses is all ubuntu, etc. Basically, Ubuntu gives you all the advantages of Linux while keeping it rather simple and straight forward to install and use, hence also faster for starters.
[12:54] <zaikxtox> yes xuser1 . actually awm + xfwm4 is my choice
[12:54] <michalchik> I actually installed Ubuntu on my my mother old machine after her windows installation blew up> she just wanted to surf and use email so I figured that would be easy to get going. She is 82 and happy with it.
[12:54] <zaikxtox> ubottu,  avant-window-navigator
[12:55] <xuser1> what is xfwm4 ?
[12:55] <zaikxtox> michalchik, exactly. today is not like years ago where windows was crap, osX just for graphic design and linux for server farms.
[12:55] <michalchik> Windows also gets real slow after a while. Does Ubuntu shoke on its own garbage or does it keeps itslef togther over time? Good trash collection and othert maintainance routines.
[12:55] <zaikxtox> michalchik, every sistem has grown up a lot and it's more a matter of tastes
[12:56] <zaikxtox> xuser1, the xfce window manager. it has a composition engine (true transparency, shadows) but it's far more lightweight than compiz
[12:56] <zaikxtox> michalchik, it's less prone to that.
[12:56] <xuser1> i want use awn for replace gnome 3
[12:56] <zaikxtox> far less prone.
[12:56] <lalagirl> !info avant-window-navigator
[12:57] <zaikxtox> xuser1, yep. i did it. it works wonderful even inside a VirtualBox
[12:57] <michalchik> Well so far it seems a lot more stable and faster.
[12:57] <xuser1> where can i get last version of awn ?
[12:57] <xuser1> any ppa?\
[12:57] <michalchik> Firefox still crashes but I think that is because of an add-on that I like,
[12:57] <xuser1> :-D
[12:57] <zaikxtox> michalchik, in many ways. but i know that windows 7 is a good product. much better thatn XP and Vista. You just have to try it for a while and see how comfortable you feel at it.
[12:58] <Pricey> michalchik: It depends on how you maintain it. If you install random crap from every which place, anything will get slow.
[12:58] <yabai> xuser1: :-P google is your friend
[12:58] <zaikxtox> xuser1, the one in 11.10 is quite good anyway
[12:58] <lalagirl> xuser1 try sudo apt-get install avant-window-navigator
[12:58] <Pricey> michalchik: Have you been introduced to the concept of "repositories" yet, and why adding 3rd party ones is a bad idea?
[12:58] <Pricey> michalchik: Infact, installing anything from a 3rd party is usually a bad idea if its available in the Ubuntu ones.
[12:58] <lalagirl> !google | yabai
[12:59] <michalchik> Well I do tend to install lots of crap, but I virus check the hell out of it and uninstall it if I don't need it
[12:59] <lalagirl> !language | michalchik
[12:59] <michalchik> Do you guys have a text to speech program that is as good as text aloud?
[12:59] <zaikxtox> michalchik, well... not having to run antiviruses and that crap is actually a huge performance booster
[12:59] <michalchik> Yeah,i figured
[13:00] <lalagirl> !language | zaikxtox
[13:00] <yabai> lalagirl: sorry, i thought he had google-fu...
[13:00] <Pricey> !repositories | michalchik
[13:00] <zaikxtox> michalchik, never used one, but i guess that probably text aloud is at the state of the art.
[13:00] <Pricey> michalchik: Check out those links from ubottu.
[13:00] <zaikxtox> crap triggers that message?
[13:00] <zaikxtox> i have to continue working!
[13:00] <yabai> lalagirl: you are great at using ubottu...i wonder if you really exist :-P
[13:01] <Pricey> zaikxtox: No, people trigger that message.
[13:01] <hroi> hi
[13:01] <michalchik> Does ubbotu boot people?
[13:01] <Pricey> yabai: for certain values of 'great'.
[13:01] <zaikxtox> michalchik, have a nice day and a happy new year.
[13:01] <Pricey> michalchik: Nope.
[13:01] <michalchik> thanks pricey
[13:01] <hroi> I want to assign a proxy to my computer, can I do that even though my computer does not have an ip address by itself?
[13:01] <zaikxtox> lalagirl, crap is a word. language is a teasure. don't crop people's languages unless you want them dumb!
[13:01] <hroi> the local wlan router has the ip
[13:02] <Pricey> hroi: "assign a proxy"... could you explain a little more clearly exactly what your problem is?
[13:02] <lalagirl> I didn't think that was a nice way to leave.
[13:02] <michalchik> IS a respository like an offical download center integrated with ubuntu?
[13:02] <hroi> proxy service,  IP address
[13:02] <hroi> ehm... I want to use an ip address service proxy service
[13:03] <hroi> I dont know any more lingo than that
[13:03] <hroi> some other service than isp dhcp
[13:03] <yabai> michalchik: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Ubuntu
[13:03] <r_a_f> is there a way to backup my system?
[13:04] <hroi> r_a_f: rsync -R / /media/mybackupdisk/.
[13:04] <michalchik> How do I check to see if my sound card has the latest drivers?
[13:05] <r_a_f> hroi: great THANKS - ill try it :)
[13:05] <hroi> r_a_f: sorry, not rsync maybe just cp -r / /media/mybackupdisk
[13:05] <r_a_f> lol :P
[13:05] <hroi> r_a_f: you need to have enough space on your external disk
[13:05] <andygraybeal> i use rsync :)
[13:05] <hroi> r_a_f: wait, also use cp -rv   just to see what is going on
[13:05] <hroi> r_a_f: not cp -r,  usr  cp -rv
[13:05] <llutz> cp -ax
[13:06] <andygraybeal> i rsync from all my computers to one location then use bacula to throw it onto tape
[13:06] <andygraybeal> tape is old though
[13:06] <r_a_f> ok I have big external
[13:06] <michalchik> well, goodnigh folks. thanks
[13:06] <hroi> r_a_f: if you do this regularly,  then you should use rsync as andygraybeal does.
[13:07] <andygraybeal> yea, i have mine in cron jobs
[13:07] <andygraybeal> every night :(
[13:07] <andygraybeal> errr :)
[13:07] <r_a_f> huhu ok then , I'll try rsync
[13:08] <hroi> wait, does cp -rv  and rasync -R  see hidden files? Im not sure about that...
[13:09] <llutz> hroi: they do
[13:09] <hroi> r_a_f: llutz: llutz has the right command you need  cp -rav
[13:09] <hroi> llutz: but need -a, right?
[13:09] <Peddy> hello, I have given the user 'steve' access via ssh. He is not an administrator and I do not want him to view others home folders. However, I want him to be able to access a folder in my homedirectory (/home/myhome/Music/). How can I accomplish this? Symlinks?
[13:10] <llutz> cp -ar is nonsense, -a includes -r
[13:10] <r_a_f> and do I have to use sudo ?
[13:10] <usuario> hi
[13:10] <usuario> hi
[13:10] <usuario> hi
[13:10] <FloodBot1> usuario: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:10] <frewo> hi llutz
[13:10] <hroi> r_a_f: do you really need to back up you os?, maybe you really want to backup  /home/ and nothing else?
[13:11] <frewo> llutz: no problems with symlinks and hardlinks?
[13:11] <usuario> hola!
[13:11] <r_a_f> hroi: yea - I must reformat my partition so...
[13:12] <hroi> r_a_f: only use sudo if you must backup /
[13:12] <LjL> usuario: please don't flood
[13:12] <usuario> claro,claro
[13:12] <llutz> frewo: -a includes -d and " -d     same as --no-dereference --preserve=links"
[13:12] <usuario> k si k mu bn
[13:12] <frewo> llutz: thx
[13:12] <LjL> usuario: and english please
[13:12] <hroi> r_a_f: hmm. maybe you want to take an image of your hard drive partition? thats more complicated
[13:12] <usuario> ok
[13:12] <LjL> usuario: /join #ubuntu-es if you want spanish
[13:13] <hroi> r_a_f: and you cant just copy back your backup onto your disk after reformatting the partition.
[13:13] <llutz> frewo: if you want to be sure about hardlinks, use rsync -Haux ...
[13:13] <hroi> r_a_f: it wont boot
[13:13] <usuario> have you silly?
[13:13] <usuario> are you silly?
[13:13] <usuario> are you silly
[13:13] <hroi> llutz: frewo:   r_a_f wants to reformat his partiton and copy back his files.... :S
[13:14] <frewo> hroi: ah, ok
[13:14] <hroi> llutz: frewo:   any suggestions on how to do that right so that his computer will boot
[13:14] <r_a_f> ok - i just backup my /home
[13:14] <llutz> hroi: backup /etc, $HOME and maybe some parts of /var, reinstall, restore files from backup
[13:14] <r_a_f> rest will be installed again
[13:15] <llutz> !clone | r_a_f if you want to install same stuff as before
[13:15] <frewo> hroi: a always used clonezilla. but rsync within live, as llutz sayas, sounds interessting to try
[13:16] <r_a_f> huhu ok BIG thanks for all of you ;)
[13:16] <hroi> r_a_f: here you can always a simple and direct answer :S
[13:17] <suman_> HI
[13:17] <llutz> i prefer filebased backups over images, but ....
[13:17] <suman_> Hello, I am new to Ubuntu
[13:17] <suman_> I have one question
[13:18] <suman_> I have installed Ubuntu 10.10 in my machine
[13:18] <suman_> some times my machine is haging because of lot of requests
[13:19] <suman_> I am seeing the following logs in ufw.log
[13:19] <suman_> Dec 27 17:53:05 ubuntu kernel: [25742.952944] [UFW AUDIT] IN=eth0 OUT= MAC=ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:40:61:86:28:eb:1d:08:00 SRC=192.168.1.101 DST=192.168.1.255 LEN=78 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x00 TTL=128 ID=29881 PROTO=UDP SPT=137 DPT=137 LEN=58
[13:19] <suman_> but I don't have samba client or server installed in my machine
[13:20] <suman_> is there is any chance on why this can happen?
[13:25] <jmscomtech> is there a way to merge the side bar with the task bar?
[13:25] <jmscomtech> im running ubuntu 11.10
[13:34] <njbair> where are encryption keys stored?
[13:34] <chiiiiiz> hi!
[13:35] <chiiiiiz> Is there a limit in the number of files a folder can contain in a ext4 filesystem?
[13:35] <chiiiiiz> I meant "number of files", not size...
[13:35] <chiiiiiz> I have a folder with more than 42000 files... and Nautilus seems to have the worst difficulties to handle it
[13:38] <DarkStar1> is it possible to increase the number of virtual screens beyond the 4?
[13:38] <lalagirl> DarkStar1 i think so
[13:39] <lalagirl> DarkStar1 not so sure though
[13:39] <DarkStar1> lalagirl: ok thx
[13:39] <Stanley00> DarkStar1: you can, via ccsm
[13:40] <DarkStar1> Stanley00: so not natively possible
[13:40] <Stanley00> DarkStar1: or gconftool...
[13:40] <Stanley00> DarkStar1: it is natively, IMO
[13:40] <DarkStar1> Stanley00: As it is my installation is not stable.  Don't want to add to it's quirkiness :)
[13:42] <Stanley00> DarkStar1: the key for gconftool is at /apps/compiz-1/general/screen0/options/show_desktop_edge
[13:42] <DarkStar1> ummm...... apt says gconftool doesn't exist :(
[13:42] <DarkStar1> Ok
[13:42] <scbickle> trying to set fixed ip address for wireless connection but apply button grey on ipv4 tab (10.10)
[13:42] <smokycat> apt-cache search gconftool  ->  gconf2
[13:42] <Stanley00> DarkStar1: it is installed by default...
[13:42] <smokycat> isnt it?
[13:43] <Stanley00> DarkStar1: there is a GUI front end, call gconf-editor.
[13:43] <DarkStar1> smokycat: Well I can't seem to access it in unity
[13:44] <Stanley00> DarkStar1: gconftool is a command, type it in terminal.
[13:44] <smokycat> oh sorry
[13:44] <Stanley00> DarkStar1: if you dont used to command line, you could try gconf-editor, or ccsm
[13:45] <DarkStar1> Stanley00:  tried. none are showing up in unity
[13:45] <dmtarmey> hello problem with synaptic package manager error http://paste.ubuntu.com/784557/
[13:45] <CipherX> hai
[13:45] <Stanley00> DarkStar1: you must install gconf-editor to use it.
[13:45] <projekt26> will firefox 9 be out for ubuntu soon?
[13:45] <Naeblis> I'm not able to install alsamixer on my machine. It says "Reading state information... Done
[13:45] <Naeblis> E: Unable to locate package alsamixer
[13:45] <Naeblis> ". Any help?
[13:46] <Stanley00> projekt26: yes, it will be here soon :D
[13:46] <projekt26> ok :)
[13:46] <r00trunner> i know, it's a little bit of topic but does someone know how to send special characters like 'ü', 'ä', ... in telnet via smtp?
[13:47] <projekt26> probably depends on your terminal emulator
[13:47] <Stanley00> dmtarmey: it cause by the cdrom you add to software source. how did you add that cdrom?
[13:48] <dmtarmey> not sure
[13:48] <pangolin> !gpgerr
[13:48] <dmtarmey> i have added things on terminal that havnt worked
[13:49] <dmtarmey> how to a remove this pls
[13:50] <venkatmangudi> added things on terminal? how?
[13:50] <venkatmangudi> dmtarmey: could you explain?
[13:51] <Klaus_Dieter> hello world
[13:51] <smokycat> hello world
[13:52]  * Zap-W slaps smokycat around a bit with a large trout
[13:52] <happy21>  how do i know that i am using or not a secure connection?
[13:52] <dmtarmey> i have the following error i just want to get rid of the error http://paste.ubuntu.com/784557/
[13:52] <xuser1> i accidentaly deleted gmnome session form usr/share/gnome-session/ gnome
[13:52] <xuser1> what ca i do ?
[13:52] <CipherX> if you can send/receive data in plain-text it's insecure ;)
[13:53] <happy21> means?
[13:53] <xuser1> i used sudo rm /usr/share/gnome-session/gnome
[13:53] <happy21> i didn' t get you man
[13:53] <CipherX> lol, got something like nmap?
[13:53] <xuser1> how can i fix that?
[13:53] <happy21> CipherX: i am talking of here itself in chat how do i know if my connection is secure?
[13:53] <venkatmangudi> gimme a sec dmtarmey
[13:53] <happy21>  CipherX: i am talking of here itself in chat how do i know if my connection is secure?
[13:54] <CipherX> happy21: I heard you the first time
[13:54] <llutz> happy21: /whois happy21
[13:54] <xuser1> how an i fix that ?
[13:54] <xuser1> any ideas?
[13:54] <happy21> no i mean how to know if i am using the ssl?
[13:54] <CipherX> * [happy21] is using a secure connection
[13:54] <CipherX> you're good
[13:54] <llutz> happy21: /whois happy21
[13:54] <Klaus_Dieter> so I have this dd-image that I created from an audio cd using dd if=/dev/cdrom of=bla.dd bs=2048 - how do I create wav files from that image? cdda2wav and cdparanoia only seem to support real devices rather than files
[13:54] <happy21> ClipherX: how you knew it?
[13:55] <CipherX> like llutz just said
[13:55] <happy21> i just played with it and confugured but not getting how to know
[13:55] <Stanley00> dmtarmey: you should open soft ware source, remove that cdrom source, and readd if you want.
[13:55] <happy21> but it is giving me my ip address
[13:55] <CipherX> happy21: /whois happy21 tells you
[13:55] <happy21> i can see
[13:55] <Pici> happy21: This channel is for Ubuntu support. If you have a question about IRC it would be better adderssed in #freenode
[13:55] <happy21> i can see the ip
[13:55] <CipherX> so?
[13:55] <venkatmangudi> dmtarmey: looks like you've removed the CD ROM from the drive.
[13:55] <pangolin> happy21: you will always be able to see your own ip
[13:56] <pangolin> happy21: join #freenode and ask for a cloak
[13:56] <happy21> pangolin: ok, it means to only me it shows the ip of mine but not to others???
[13:56] <owenll> xuser1:  “sudo apt-get install gnome-session”
[13:56] <happy21> pangolin: ok sure
[13:56] <Pici> happy21: Again This channel is for *Ubuntu* support. If you have a question about IRC it would be better adderssed in #freenode
[13:56] <happy21> ok ty Pici
[13:57] <CipherX> I take it a secure connection means you have an encrypted connection to the server, not sure about that though?
[13:57] <rchilso1> how can i compile from source "mol-0.9.72.1" from sourceforge.org?
[13:57] <llutz> CipherX: you're right
[13:57] <mjohn4251> lalagirl : message me
[13:57] <happy21> CipherX: what you get/see the output of: /whois happy21
[13:57] <happy21> CipherX: what you get/see the output of: /whois happy21
[13:57] <CipherX> * [happy21] (~linuxeart@117.206.160.119): Linux Earth
[13:58] <happy21> ok
[13:58] <xuser1> doesnot work
[13:58] <happy21> ty
[13:58] <happy21> bye
[13:58] <venkatmangudi> dmtarmey, are you there?
[13:58] <dmtarmey> cheers im remove the mention of it in the system
[13:58] <xuser1> gnome-session is aleready at last ver.
[13:58] <venkatmangudi> dmtarmey, you can also go to software sources and uncheck the CD ROM
[13:59] <dmtarmey> sorry i have move from ubuntu to a derivative pear os and i dont know were the tools are just testing it out
[13:59] <owenll> xuser1: http://www.bitsbythepound.com/re-install-gnome-session-in-ubuntu-361.html
[13:59] <chiiiiiz> Hi! How can I ask find to give me all type of files I have (I do not want the lsit of files, but only the various extensions of my files)
[13:59] <venkatmangudi> dmtarmey, it doesn't matter if it is not Ubuntu... if it is a debian based system it should work
[13:59] <rchilso1> is there another source of the file "Mac on Linux" that is already compiled for ubunut?
[14:02] <dmtarmey> software source wont run for some reason
[14:02] <Stanley00> chiiiiiz: I dont know, but there is a simple solution, use find, file, and sort -u :D
[14:03] <chiiiiiz> thanks...
[14:04] <rchilso1> ineed to run some mac files on an ubuntu install. is there an api i can use in ubuntu software sources?
[14:05] <bullgard4> ~/.config/banshee-1/log includes a line: "[Info 06:41:23.999] AmazonMP3 store redirect URL: http://one-ubuntu.com/music/store/amz/" Why does Banshee link me to the commercial enterprise Amazon?
[14:05] <Stanley00> rchilso1: I dont think it's possible...
[14:05] <rchilso1> kk thx
[14:06] <venkatmangudi> dmtarmey, open /etc/apt/sources.list in your editor
[14:06] <venkatmangudi> and then comment out the line which has apt-cd
[14:06] <venkatmangudi> should do the trick
[14:06] <dmtarmey> ok cheers there is a shortcut in this pear os but its not working
[14:06] <bullgard4> Pici:  It appears to me that reporting Banshee bugs in Apport is somewhat special. Can I assume that '~$ ubuntu-bug banshee' will extract and publish the file ~/.config/banshee-1/log too?
[14:08] <pangolin> dmtarmey: if you are not using Ubuntu then you need to find the channel for your distribution.
[14:09] <sedeki> When I pull out my electric charger from my laptop, the laptop thinks it has critically low level of battery and shuts down even though it has full battery
[14:10] <sedeki> any ideas on how to fix this?
[14:10] <venkatmangudi> sedeki, are you sure that the battery is full?
[14:10] <projekt26> sedeki: maybe your battery is not working?
[14:11] <sedeki> i am sure the battery is full
[14:11] <bullgard4> sedeki: "thinks" is no precise description. Please report the exact error message and the situation in which you do obtain it.
[14:11] <venkatmangudi> you might have a battery that's dead
[14:11] <sedeki> i'm running on the battery at the moment, i just booted without charging
[14:12] <sedeki> bullgard4, true, but where do I obtain this info then?
[14:12] <mintux> why I got 401  Authorization Required  ( W: Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/natty-security/main/binary-i386/Package 401  Authorization Required )  ????
[14:12] <mintux> when apt-get update
[14:13] <sedeki> bullgard4, it even says "0:01 min until fully charged", then i pull out and it says it has critically low battery
[14:13] <bullgard4> sedeki: I do not know what information you refer to speicifically. Probably you should read /var/log/dmesg.0.
[14:13] <mintux> no solutions ?
[14:13] <CipherX> prob something in dmesg or /proc
[14:14] <bullgard4> sedeki: Grep /var/log/dmesg.0 for ACPI events.
[14:15] <muzone> Why can't I wget -r -A pdf,doc http://www.fabricly.com? https://gist.github.com/1519382 - it doesn't make any difference if I add HTML to the list. Running the same command on other sites though usually yields tons of PDFs and DOCs.
[14:15] <CipherX> mintux: I followed that link
[14:15] <CipherX> mintux: I got, Not Found
[14:15] <CipherX> The requested URL /ubuntu/dists/natty-security/main/binary-i386/Package was not found on this server.
[14:15] <CipherX> Apache/2.2.14 (Ubuntu) Server at security.ubuntu.com Port 80
[14:15] <CipherX> oh nvm
[14:16] <mintux> CipherX: I have a lot of repository . its my output http://codepad.org/I52Kpwaq
[14:16] <bullgard4> sedeki: What is "it" in 'and it says it has critically low battery'?
[14:17] <radon-> Hello! I'm trying to run a program but when I run it from terminal, i just get an error message like this: "error while loading shared libraries: libpng14.so.14: wrong ELF class: ELFCLASS32"
[14:17] <sedeki> bullgard4, i'm running gnome and there is a gadget in the menu bar at the top of the screen
[14:17] <mintux> I change my repo now
[14:18] <CipherX> yea I dunno, sounds like it wants you to authenticate lol
[14:18] <sedeki> "ACPI: Deprecated procfs I/F for battery is loaded, please retry with CONFIG_ACPI_PROCFS_POWER cleared"
[14:19] <bullgard4> sedeki: There are more than one  gadgets in the menu bar at the top of the Ubuntu screen. --  What Ubuntu version / release do you use?
[14:19] <mintux> http://ubuntu.mirror.cambrium.nl/ubuntu
[14:19] <CipherX> mintux: what are you using, none of those links even load for me
[14:20] <Pici> mintux: Are you behind a proxy?
[14:20] <CipherX> mintux: it looks like it's trying to make connections to various servers using, /ubuntu/dists/natty/partner/binary-i386/Packages, having no luck and then telling you to authenticate
[14:20] <mintux> I changed it now my repo now is http://codepad.org/ZU5ojaVy
[14:20] <mintux> how can I know ?
[14:21] <Pici> mintux: If you are running mint then you need to be asking in their support channel. We do not support Mint here.
[14:21] <bullgard4> sedeki: The message "ACPI: Deprecated procfs I/F for battery is loaded, please retry with CONFIG_ACPI_PROCFS_POWER cleared" is relevant. But I do not know a remedy. It is probably wise to repeat your question and this message in an Ubuntu mailing list.
[14:22] <CipherX> I don't think it's an authentication problem, I went to one of those links and got a 404, not found, doesn't look like an authentication problem
[14:22] <mintux> I tried everything also mint repo
[14:22] <dmtarmey> pangolin i have but doesn’t seem to be anyone there
[14:22] <mintux> I don't know why I got this
[14:22] <LjL> mintux: that's a very bad idea. Ubuntu's and Mint's repos aren't really compatible.
[14:22] <mintux> I've got 401 for everything also
[14:22] <mintux> I put debian repo
[14:23] <stimpie> #guice
[14:23] <CipherX> so there you have it, none of those paths exist
[14:23] <mintux> can you give your repo to test?
[14:23] <sedeki> bullgard4, ok, thanks. is disabling acpi a good idea otherwise?
[14:23] <mintux> CipherX: give me your repo to test
[14:24] <venkatmangudi> Sedeki, sometimes acpi gets in the way of Ubuntu.
[14:24] <bullgard4> sedeki: No. ACPI is a complicated functional area. You might endanger overheating your computer, for example.
[14:25]  * muzone is now playing: Muzone - Sax Set (http://home.no/dwaynie/sax_set.mp3)
[14:26] <apollo00> does ubuntu have an equivalent program to ccleaner in windows?
[14:26] <dr_willis> !info bleachbits
[14:26] <sedeki> also, is there anyway to disable the guest account in ubuntu 11.04? i dont find any gdm settings
[14:26] <dr_willis> hmm. what is that name..
[14:26] <dr_willis> !info bleachbit
[14:26] <bullgard4> apollo00: What is the function of ccleaner in Windows?
[14:26] <usuario> #ubuntu-es
[14:27] <venkatmangudi> sedeki, user manager?
[14:27] <CipherX> mintux: sorry can't find a repo...I just downloaded the iso and installed 11.10 on my machine then from there I use either apt-get or synaptic
[14:27] <apollo00> delete unnecessary files from the system
[14:27] <nico_> one know cybermirc.org?
[14:27] <dr_willis> its amazing the # of 'system cleaners' and 'registry cleaners' and optmizers that exist for windows..  that stuff is normally just not needed in linux.
[14:27] <Flamekebab> Is anyone willing to help me setup an email server? (Dovecot, Postfix, that sort of thing)
[14:27] <mintux> CipherX: I tried this website http://repogen.simplylinux.ch/
[14:28] <CipherX> I HATE "registry cleaners"
[14:28] <dr_willis> apollo00:  bleachbit and  the computer janitor program are about all ive ever (rarely) needed
[14:28] <CipherX> they should call them "make your OS less functional than it already is utils"
[14:28] <apollo00> what do you use to securely wipe free space?
[14:28] <dr_willis> apollo00:  theres secure deletion tools out there. as for zeroing free space.. havent bothered in ages.
[14:29] <CipherX> mintux: http://www.ubuntu.com
[14:29] <bullgard4> sedeki: http://linuxbsdos.com/ask/2011/06/disable-guest-account-in-ubuntu-11-04/
[14:29] <mintux>  CipherX: and my repo is now http://codepad.org/Br8mKrDn
[14:29] <apollo00> Ok, thx dr
[14:29] <mellpatr> how I identify which line has wrong at sources.list when received the message Failed to fetch http://ubuntu-mirror.fc.hp.com/LinuxCOE/Ubuntu4HP/dists/ubuntu4hp/Release  Unable to find expected entry 'oneiric/source/Sources' in Release file (Wrong sources.list entry or malformed file)
[14:30] <venkatmangudi> mellpatr, doesn't that message identify the line?
[14:30] <mintux> CipherX: do you confirm this document ? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/CommandLine
[14:30] <mintux>  ?
[14:30] <dr_willis> I thought he just pasted the line thats wrong..
[14:30] <bullgard4> apollo00: Please use computer-janitor.
[14:31] <mellpatr> venkatmangudi, when i run the apt-update, i had these error
[14:31] <CipherX> mintux: are you trying to change where apt-get pulls packages from?
[14:32] <mellpatr> i want to identify how i resolve this issue
[14:32] <usuario> #ubuntu-es
[14:32] <venkatmangudi> mellpatr, open up your /ec/apt/sources.list file and comment out the line
[14:33] <mintux> CipherX: I tried everything but I don't why iv got 401  Authorization Required while I can open it with my browser
[14:33] <supuers> need assistance on GUFW appears you have to turn it on everytime you restart..Anyway of automatically haaving it start up on a restart?
[14:33] <CipherX> mintux: as someone stated earlier, are you behind a proxy?
[14:34] <CipherX> mintux: only thing I could think of maybe...
[14:34] <mintux>  CipherX:proxy where  on my system ?
[14:34] <mintux> CipherX: proxy where  on my system ?
[14:34] <mellpatr> yes.. but i cant identify the line... im feel a noob.. ;)
[14:34] <LjL> mintux: are you connecting from a company? if so, you're probably behind a proxy
[14:34] <mintux> CipherX: I don't do anything with my system . how can I know that?
[14:35] <CipherX> mintux: don't know where...just a thought...
[14:35] <mintux> LjL: maybe that company
[14:35] <f310> hello all good morning.
[14:35] <mintux> LjL: I have notebook if I got same thing the problem is form my DSL provider ?
[14:35] <CipherX> mintux: if you haven't changed anything "apt-get install <package-name>" should work find....
[14:35] <supuers> hello
[14:36] <f310> to stop a service from running at boot time,  the command "service (SERVICE) stop" is enought?
[14:36] <CipherX> mintux: otherwise, something is configured wrong or you have a proxy or firewall blocking your connection
[14:36] <mintux> CipherX: but it doesn't also update my package how can it install anything ?
[14:36] <Flamekebab> Is anyone willing to help me setup an email server? (Dovecot, Postfix, that sort of thing)
[14:36] <LjL> mintux: not sure what you're saying. if you have the problem with your home DSL connection, then it's probably not a proxy.
[14:36] <istiaque> hi,, i am new in ubuntu 11.04 , how can i use c language? is it possible?
[14:36] <venkatmangudi> f310, look up starup programs
[14:36] <mellpatr> venkatmangudi, I m searching about 'dists' at all files from source.list.d and source.list.. but i havent found the correct line to comment..
[14:37] <LjL> istiaque: of course it's possible. install "build-essential" and then you can compile C code. you may of course want an IDE to edit code, there are several available.
[14:37] <LjL> !code | istiaque
[14:37] <supuers> yes you can use c
[14:37] <mintux> LjL: how can I found out the firewall or anything is on my system?
[14:37] <LjL> mintux: try "echo $HTTP_PROXY $http_proxy"
[14:37] <f310> venkatmangudi, there is nothing about it. I am using the last version o ubuntu, if that helps ^.^
[14:37] <CipherX> mintux: it's just an example....but you're right if it's not getting the package there's a problem, just trying to figure out what's wrong....
[14:38] <mintux> the output is http://127.0.0.1:0/
[14:38] <LjL> mintux: then you're using a proxy, and an invalid one at that.
[14:38] <istiaque> <LjL<ubottu  thanks..
[14:38] <LjL> mintux: the output should be empty
[14:38] <mintux> hmmm
[14:38] <CipherX> there it is...
[14:38] <LjL> mintux: what does "lsb_release -a" say?
[14:39] <bullgard4> ~/.config/banshee-1/log includes a line: "[Info 06:41:23.999] AmazonMP3 store redirect URL: http://one-ubuntu.com/music/store/amz/" Why does Banshee link me to the commercial enterprise Amazon?
[14:40] <LjL> bullgard4: because Ubuntu One?
[14:40] <pangolin> #ubuntuone
[14:40] <supuers> default for purchasing
[14:40] <mathews> where can I see the video which buffered by youtube?.I looked in temp folder in the file system but not there.
[14:41] <bullgard4> LjL: I do  not want to establish a commercial relationship with Amazon. How can I switch off this linkage?
[14:41] <owenll> f310: Search for the app "Startup Applications"
[14:42] <supuers> mintux...gufw has to be restarted evrytime system restarts as grayed out is off. any way to have it set up where you don't have to restart the ufw manually?
 I have another question , it is Have any soft in ubuntu 11.04 substitute for .net ?
[14:42] <LjL> bullgard4: remove banshee-extension-ubuntuonemusicstore
[14:42] <supuers> I think under preferences...
[14:42] <LjL> istiaque: yes, it's called Mono
[14:43] <LjL> istiaque: an IDE for it is "monodevelop"
[14:43] <Metroshica> is nagios part of the repository? if so, how much configuration is needed after installation?
[14:43] <mintux> sudo ufw status
[14:43] <mintux> Status: inactive
[14:43] <mintux> supuers: ^
[14:43] <istiaque> How can i install it ,Please give me terminal command .
[14:44] <Dr_Willis_> !mono
[14:44] <f310> owenll, ah to install ... ok I was looking for the (already installed)
[14:44] <LjL> !info nagios3 | Metroshica, no idea about configuration
[14:44] <supuers> thanks
[14:44] <Metroshica> istiaque, in 11.04 mono is already pre-installed
[14:44] <CipherX> ufw enable
[14:44] <LjL> istiaque: "sudo apt-get install monodevelop"
[14:44] <LjL> !software > istiaque
[14:45] <CipherX> then I add a default deny all incoming rule
[14:45] <supuers> no it states active thanks again
[14:45] <CipherX> works for pretty much anything that isn't a server
[14:46] <CipherX> supuers: make sure you have rules set up
[14:46] <CipherX> supuers: just having an active firewall guarantees nothing
[14:46] <supuers> I just set up rules to deny incoming
[14:46] <CipherX> ok
[14:47] <supuers> Cipherx and mintux thanks again
[14:49] <dr_willis> Official Ubuntu Support Channel | IRC Guidelines: http://goo.gl/cEF1w | IRC info: http://goo.gl/Pgv9o | Pastes to http://goo.gl/ixcN9 | Release Notes: http:++
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[14:49] <FloodBot1> dr_willis: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:49] <soulse> does anyone have a working script for rapidshare downloading?
[14:49] <Corey> dr_willis: Don't do that please.
[14:50] <Calinou> spy's sappin dr_willis
[14:50] <cablop> dr_willis: ?
[14:51] <bullgard4> Corey: I Think that this was a hacker's attack.
[14:51] <LjL> i think that was a mispaste, myself
[14:51] <CipherX> lol
[14:52] <CipherX> watch out, hackers flooding your ircs
[14:52] <sedeki> bullgard4, i don't have "gdm-guest"
[14:52] <cablop> maybe a users list command
[14:53] <bullgard4> sedeki: I did not make any suggestion about gdm-guest.
[14:53] <roxlu> hi! is it normal that hosts.allow is empty? I somehow cannot access my ubuntu server anymore from other pc's in the network and I've no idea what happened
[14:53] <sedeki> bullgard4, you posted a link that suggested that
[14:53] <sedeki> regarding disabling of the guest account in ubuntu 11.04
[14:54] <bullgard4> sedeki: What time?
[14:54] <dr_willis> 3 yr old  was hammering on the keyboard while i was making his breakfast... sorry.
[14:54] <etheretic3> hello. does anyone have experience with backing up to blu-ray disks from ubuntu?
[14:54] <sedeki> bullgard4, i dont have timestamps in my irc client: <bullgard4> sedeki: http://linuxbsdos.com/ask/2011/06/disable-guest-account-in-ubuntu-11-04/
[14:55] <spectacular> hi, I have a file with an OCD extension which seems to have multiple EOFs. how can I split it into multiple files at the EOFs?
[14:56] <faLUCE> hi how can I format to fat 16 /dev/sdb (usb flash drive) ?
[14:57] <bullgard4> sedeki: Please excuse me that this article is not applicable to you. --  My apologies.
[14:57] <CipherX> faLUCE: fdisk should work
[14:57] <smokycat> roxlu: /etc/hosts.allowed of my ubuntu server 10.04 is empty too
[14:57] <faLUCE> CipherX: which is the command?
[14:58] <sedeki> bullgard4, no problem.
[14:58] <CipherX> faLUCE: fdisk is the command, but not sure exactly how to make it do a fat 16
[14:58] <dr_willis> you use fdisk to make parittions, then mkfs to format as needed faLUCE . or use gparted for a nice gui tool
[14:58] <LjL> CipherX: fdisk doesn't format...
[14:58] <CipherX> ah, there you go
[14:58] <LjL> CipherX, faLUCE: mkfs is the command, with -t msdos i think
[14:59] <CipherX> LjL: ok
[14:59] <owenll> sudo mkdosfs -F 16 /dev/sdb ? 			 		
[14:59] <dr_willis> owenll:  it would be sdb1 most likely
[15:00] <CipherX> like dr_willis said, gparted is really nice, if you have a gui running...
[15:01] <faLUCE> owenll: mkdosfs: unable to open /dev/sdb
[15:01] <Visual`> faLUCE: are you root ?
[15:02] <dr_willis> making a flesystem would require sudo/root rights of course.
[15:02] <dr_willis> to access the device.. and its MOST likely /dev/sdb1
[15:02] <jmscomtech> how do i set the unity launcher to open all the time?
[15:02] <CipherX> faLUCE: need to be root and it may be /dev/sdb1?
[15:02] <dr_willis> jmscomtech:  the ccsm tool has plugin settings to make thepanel not hide.
[15:02] <faLUCE> CipherX: tried without success
[15:02] <jmscomtech> yeah whats it called?
[15:02] <CipherX> faLUCE: did you look above ^
[15:03] <dr_willis> !ccsm
[15:03] <faLUCE> CipherX: I tried your tip
[15:03] <jmscomtech> ive got the compiz open
[15:03] <CipherX> faLUCE: more specifically?
[15:03] <owenll> faLUCE: with sudo?
[15:03] <CipherX> faLUCE: what did you type?
[15:03] <faLUCE>  mkdosfs -F 16 /dev/sdb1   <---- as root mkdosfs: /dev/sdb1 contains a mounted file system
[15:04] <CipherX> it's telling you it's already mounted
[15:04] <llutz> faLUCE: umount it
[15:04] <dr_willis> :)
[15:04] <CipherX> tell me what you get when you type mount /dev/sdb1
[15:05] <CipherX> the os may already have done it for you
[15:05] <faLUCE> if I umount I obtain the same error
[15:05] <CipherX> ??
[15:05] <dr_willis> then its not unmounted...
[15:05] <dr_willis> or its remounting.
[15:06] <CipherX> can't umount on the device can you? think you have to umount on the mount point
[15:06] <dr_willis> sudo umount /dev/sdb1
[15:06] <dr_willis> or.. just use gparted
[15:06] <CipherX> ie umount /mnt/whatever
[15:07] <MrClaw> I have an idea for a feature. Where can I report it?
[15:07] <dr_willis> !brainstorm
[15:07] <faLUCE> CipherX: I did that! I see the device icon disappear after umounting it. but the error remains if I use mkdosfs
[15:07] <MrClaw> Cool, thanks. :)
[15:08] <CipherX> faLUCE: whats the error...got to be specific
[15:08] <faLUCE> let me reboot
[15:08] <CipherX> features > /dev/null #just kidding
[15:08] <roxlu> smokycat: thanks
[15:09] <MrClaw> Can you please tell me how the power saving mode (standby) is called in Ubuntu?
[15:09] <hmuller> What are the base metapackages  used to build the distribution? (i.e. ubuntu-desktop, and ?)
[15:09] <jmscomtech> geez this sucks no1 to help me on here or compiz
[15:09] <muzone> Why can't I wget -r -A pdf,doc http://www.fabricly.com? https://gist.github.com/1519382 - it doesn't make any difference if I add HTML to the list. Running the same command on other sites though usually yields tons of PDFs and DOCs.
[15:09] <dr_willis> jmscomtech:  help with what exactly?
[15:10] <jmscomtech> i want to make the launcher visible at all times like a docked taskbar
[15:10] <venkatmangudi> jmscomtech, what's the problem?
[15:10] <oCean> muzone: if it works for other sites, how is this an #ubuntu issue?
[15:10] <dr_willis> jmscomtech:  its in the unity plugin settings in the ccsm tool.
[15:10] <dr_willis> webupd8  has a decent guide on tweaking unity.
[15:10] <dr_willis> the webupd8 blog site i mean.
[15:11] <jmscomtech> why isnt it enabled in ubuntu 2d?
[15:11] <faLUCE> after rebooting mkdosfs worked. thansk
[15:12] <owenll> faLUCE: thanks for coming back to report
[15:12] <faLUCE> owenll: thank you. let's hope now I can boot for pen drived
[15:12] <dr_willis> unity2d does not use compiz. its basically a seperate app with its own settings.
[15:13] <dr_willis> ive heard that  some day compiz will also work for non-3d acellerated setups so the 2 unitys would get merged then. but  not sure if thats going to happen in the next releae or not.
[15:14] <afrodeity> Recovery kernel boots straight into root
[15:14] <bullgard4> LjL: I de-installed the package »banshee-extension-ubuntuonemusicstore«. I restarted my computer and Banshee too.  The text of the Info line: "AmazonMP3 store redirect URL: http://one-ubuntu.com/music/store/amz/" remained. Only its timestamp was updated.
[15:15] <CipherX> hrm, when you run netstat (ie: $ netstat) is that going to tell you open sockets before or after your firewall? I take it before, because I have ufw up and running and configured?
[15:15] <afrodeity> Grub seems ok
[15:16] <jmscomtech> ahh so to have the unit plugin show up and enabled u need to be in ubuntu, not ubuntu2D :/
[15:17] <ribot> hey
[15:17] <afrodeity> Telinit 3 stuck.at.ufw
[15:18] <owenll> jmscomtech:  dr_willis posted this when you were away "unity2d does not use compiz. its basically a seperate app with its own settings. ive heard that  some day compiz will also work for non-3d acellerated setups so the 2 unitys would get merged then. but  not sure if thats going to happen in the next releae or not."
[15:18] <bullgard4> MrClaw: They are called »Suspend« and »Hibernate« in Ubuntu 10.04.3.
[15:18] <MrClaw> bullgard4: Thank you. :)
[15:18] <ribot> i'm trying to get a file to a local path using ncftpget, but i find no way to use this method "ncftpget -C [flags] remote-host remote-path-name local-path-name", as it keeps telling me to use -R if I want the whole directory tree, which i don't
[15:19] <hmuller> let me rephrase, "Did lsb-base replace ubuntu-base?"
[15:19] <CipherX> oh wow
[15:19] <bullgard4> MrClaw: Not bene: There are two power saving modes.
[15:19] <bullgard4> MrClaw: Nota bene: There are two power saving modes.
[15:19] <MrClaw> bullgard4: Suspension and hibernation?
[15:19] <CipherX> I've got a bug....a scroll bar for my 'terminal' application some-how got "stuck" on my display and won't go away
[15:20] <bullgard4> MrClaw: Yes.
[15:20] <MrClaw> bullgard4: Right. :)
[15:20] <jmscomtech> ahh ok sory was switching desktops
[15:21] <jmscomtech> i did want to merge the launcher with taskbar but dont think you can
[15:21] <faLUCE> well, nothing solved. I have an old motherboard. when I try to boot from usb disk (formated as fat 32) it says "No DEFAULT or UI configuration directive found" . I formated the usb disk as fat 16 and now it hangs om boot. what could I do
[15:21] <faLUCE> ?
[15:22] <jmscomtech> is it possible to transfer the grub/boot sector from one hdd to another?
[15:23] <ouyes> I get a file access error when use command ls -al
[15:24] <radon-> Where can I find a working SNES emulator for Ubuntu 11.10 x64? I installed ZSNES i386 version but it removed my music player and some other packages
[15:25] <dr_willis> snes9x is an alterantive radon-
[15:25] <ouyes> here is the error message http://pastebin.com/Mg34PrPX
[15:25] <dr_willis> No idea why zsnes would remove things..
[15:25] <radon-> Yep
[15:25] <radon-> I ran command "sudo apt-get install zsnes:i386" and it removed audacious and some librarie
[15:25] <ouyes> it seems there is a problem with the ext4 filesystem
[15:25] <radon-> libraries
[15:25] <lucas__> Ive got a netgear n150 wireless usb adapter and it will not work on ubuntu 10.10 could some plz help me plz
[15:25] <radon-> dr_willis: I can't find Snes9x from the repositories
[15:25] <dr_willis> zsnes is only avail in 32bit.
[15:25] <diskord> I'm trying to find the device file for my scanner to see if I can get it working, but cannot find it. I see the scanner in dmesg: [    4.509244] scsi 7:0:0:0: Processor         EPSON    GT-9800          1.03 PQ: 0 ANSI: 4
[15:25] <dr_willis> radon-:  dont think its int he repos any more
[15:26] <dr_willis> seems a lot of the emulators have been slowly vanishing from the repos.
[15:26] <radon-> dr_willis: hmh. I compiled it on my own, got it working but it doens't have sound
[15:26] <radon-> snes9x I mean
[15:26] <diskord> does anybody have any advice how i can find the device file / name
[15:26] <diskord> ?
[15:27] <lucas__> Ive got a netgear n150 wireless usb adapter and it will not work on ubuntu 10.10 could some plz help me plz
[15:27] <dr_willis> i got zense installed here.. never noticed it removing anything. but im on a 32bit system
[15:27] <khan> i want to turn my laptop to a developing station i already got ubuntu up and running i just recomendations on some software
[15:27] <dr_willis> diskord:  for what device?
[15:27] <dr_willis> khan:  developing what exactly?
[15:27] <diskord> dr_willis: for my scanner
[15:27] <diskord> [    4.509244] scsi 7:0:0:0: Processor         EPSON    GT-9800          1.03 PQ: 0 ANSI: 4
[15:27] <sovereignentity> can ubuntu 11.xx be made to look and act like 10.04?
[15:27] <dr_willis> !sane
[15:27] <diskord> from dmesg
[15:28] <khan> websites so front-end/back-end also working with rubyonrails
[15:28] <CipherX> No command 'snes' found, did you mean:
[15:28] <khan> so i want a good text editor
[15:28] <dr_willis> all ive ever had to do with scanners is plyg them in and start scanning..
[15:28] <CipherX>  Command 'zsnes' from package 'zsnes' (universe)
[15:28] <diskord> dr_willis: I'm past that
[15:28] <dr_willis> khan:  theres dozens of text editors out there.  depends on what you like.
[15:28] <dr_willis> diskord:  is it a printer-scanner combo?
[15:28] <robin0800_> ! notunity | sovereignentity
[15:28] <lucas__> Ive got a netgear n150 wireless usb adapter and it will not work on ubuntu 10.10 could some plz help me plz
[15:28] <jmscomtech> dr_willis: ive installed ubuntu 11.10, onto my 3rd hdd, i want to pull the 1st hdd(windows out) and use the linux hdd as main but i think the grub/boot loader was installed on first hdd , so if i do pull it out the system wont boot correct? if so is there a way to transfer it to the 3rd drive?
[15:28] <sskalnik> khan:  <plug for vim here>
[15:29] <khan> i want to mess with vim but isnt the learning curve hard?
[15:29] <dr_willis> jmscomtech:  reinstall grub to the other hd first..
[15:29] <dr_willis> sudo dpkg-reconfigure grub-pc  (is one way to make it ask/reinstall)
[15:29] <venkatmangudi> khan, gedit is not so bad either. programmers love it
[15:29] <dr_willis> khan:  learn vi... just break down and do it. :)
[15:29] <fishcooker> merry xmas fellas
[15:29] <khan> alright sounds good
[15:29] <fishcooker> :D
[15:29] <sskalnik> khan:  I just did the built-in tutorial and it wasn't hard at all. Use it everyday.
[15:29] <diskord> dr_willis: no.... It was working b4, now i'm on kernel 3 something and its not :(
[15:29] <venkatmangudi> vi is the best out there
[15:30] <khan> alright ill look into vim if not ill see gedit
[15:30] <khan> thank you everyone
[15:30] <fishcooker> how to migrate from ubuntu dekstop to server?
[15:30] <dr_willis> fishcooker:  you mean just turn off the desktop/gui?
[15:31] <diskord> from what i understand every device should have a corresponding file, if it's detected by the kernel. Since I see the scanner in dmesg, I'm lead to believe that there exists a device file, I'm however not sure where it's at
[15:31] <dr_willis> !text
[15:31] <jmscomtech> thankyou soo much dr_willis
[15:31] <CipherX> I like vim or nano
[15:31] <dr_willis> jmscomtech:  i often install grub to the mbr of a small flash drive - as a 'fallback' grub in case the system gets messed up.
[15:32] <fishcooker> no dr_willis.. actually i want migrate n use server kernel
[15:32] <jmscomtech> ohh u can do that ? sweet
[15:32] <jmscomtech> thanx for tip
[15:32] <fishcooker> not gui
[15:32] <faLUCE> alternartively. My processor is an old "amd athlon xp 2400+" should I use the i386 live iso?
[15:33] <dr_willis> fishcooker:  just install the kernel you want, shouldent really matter much from what ive seen.
[15:33]  * dr_willis wonders whats really differnt in the server kernel.
[15:34] <muzone> dr_willis: its got less shit in it
[15:34] <oCean> muzone: control your language here, please
[15:34] <muzone> oCean: bugger off
[15:34] <muzone> dr_willis: its got less stuff in it
[15:35] <oCean> muzone: no, you follow our channel's guidelines or may leave
[15:35] <dr_willis> with the kernel use of modules, not sure it would matter.
[15:35] <sskalnik> dr_willis:  https://help.ubuntu.com/10.10/serverguide/C/preparing-to-install.html#intro-kernel-diffs
[15:35] <dr_willis> but the anwer is the same i guess.. install the kernel you want via the package manager tools.
[15:35] <muzone> dr_willis: you do have a good point
[15:36] <dr_willis> Theres been a trend to reduce the # of kernels avail.  Theres even discussion of making the pae kernel the default for 32bit installs.. but that may be 2+ releases down the road.
[15:36] <muzone> dr_willis: personally though, i think it's a bad idea to use ubuntu if your server servers thousands / millions of users
[15:36] <muzone> with hundreds / thousands of dollars depending on it running flawless
[15:36] <muzone> if that is the case, i would switch to freebsd
[15:37] <muzone> its older, more mature and more naturally structured
[15:37] <muzone> ubuntu for desktop though any day! chea!!
[15:37] <Metroshica> Anyone know how to install plugins in Nagios?
[15:38] <Jezzz> o/  having scrambled fonts issue.  found a technote that says to remove the kdeglobals file.  is this a good fix for this issue?  if yes, where is the kdeglobals file?
[15:38] <IsUp> hello, i have 2 kernels installed. linux-image-2.6.38-8-generic-pae and linux-image-3.0.0-14-generic-pae. how can i set linux-image-3.0.0-14-generic-pae as default? i want to boot with linux-image-3.0.0-14-generic-pae
[15:38] <PsciCodeliXHAt> hello, I want install the package called lanmap, it was avalible in 11.04 but inst in 11.10, someone know why?
[15:39] <dr_willis> !info lanmap
[15:39] <dr_willis> PsciCodeliXHAt:  lack of maintainer perhaps. or unfixed security issues are common reasons for removal.
[15:39] <Draco_2011> How can I boot a Mac using a flash drive (ubuntu)
[15:40] <Draco_2011> I'm going to create the drive using windows
[15:41] <Draco_2011> ??
[15:41] <sskalnik> I have built a package that installs a kernel module (among other things). The package (at least the module) needs to be rebuilt for each new kernel. However, the target systems need to be lean, with no build tools or dkms... what are my options? I'm thinking that a vm with build tools + a script that rebuilds the package when a new kernel is released, then sends it to a local apt repo. Am I going down the wrong path?
[15:41] <oCean> PsciCodeliXHAt: packages.ubuntu.com says it hasn't been in the repositories since 8.04, maybe you installed it from somewhere else?
[15:42] <dr_willis> http://www.parseerror.com/lanmap/
[15:43] <PsciCodeliXHAt> oCean: no...I have installed it by: apt-get install lanmap
[15:43] <dr_willis> lanmap is abandoned; do with it as you please   <-- so its homepage says :)
[15:45] <Diranged> ok.. trying again.. still running into this issue. it seems to me that the 64bit kernel headers for 2.6.32-317 (unistd_64.h) are pointing to a file that doesnt exist (asm/asm-offset.h)..
[15:45] <Diranged> http://pastie.org/3077840
[15:45] <Diranged> is it possible that theres something wrong with the kernel source there, or something else going on that im not noticing?
[15:45] <Jezzz> anyone heard of an issue where system fonts appear scrambled?
[15:45]  * muzone is now playing: Unknown - mrender1 (http://home.no/mritz/mrender1.mp3)
[15:46] <oCean> muzone: please disable that
[15:46] <FreeWilly> anyone know of a mysql chat room?
[15:46] <Pici> FreeWilly: #mysql
[15:47] <CipherX> lol
[15:48] <owenll> FreeWilly: http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.0/en/irc.html
[15:48] <FreeWilly> Pici: thanks but seems stuffed, i cant send msgs there, i get "cannot send to #mysql"
[15:48] <Diranged> http://heuristically.wordpress.com/2010/05/05/error-asmasm-offsets-h-no-such-file-directory/ .. looks like its an ongoing issue?
[15:48] <oCean> FreeWilly: you need to register and identify
[15:48] <Pici> FreeWilly: read the topic.
[15:51] <henry666> hi im trying to install wubi but it appears to be stuck, the ubuntu installer box is saying there is 1 min 20 secs left but its been stuck for 20 mins??
[15:51] <Draco_2011> how to boot a mac from ubuntu??
[15:51] <limac> hi can anyone tell me what I can use to profile python code in ubuntu 11.10?
[15:51] <compdoc> Draco_2011, you could try booting the live cd
[15:52] <afeijo> yo guys
[15:52] <Draco_2011> how to star up?
[15:52] <afeijo> how can I install the compiz cube thing in my ubuntu 11.10 ??
[15:52] <Draco_2011> I know how to do that in a intel based laptop
[15:52] <IsUp> hello, i have 2 kernels installed. "linux-image-2.6.38-8-generic-pae" and "linux-image-3.0.0-14-generic-pae". how can i set "linux-image-2.6.38-8-generic-pae" as default?
[15:52] <Draco_2011> like selecting the boot device
[15:52] <Draco_2011> my problem is how to do that
[15:55] <compdoc> on intel-based PCs, in the bios, theres an option to boot the cd first. I think there was a keyboard combo too
[15:55] <compdoc> on some macs
[15:56] <fishcooker> thanks dr_willis, it works
[15:56] <BluesKaj> Hey All
[15:56] <squidly> anyone using ocfs2console with 11.10. I cant seem to get it started. It keep getting popen2 errors and the bugs in launchpad said they are fixed.. (
[15:59] <oscalation> is there a ubuntu launchpad channel?
[15:59] <arj154> hi
[15:59] <oscalation> i have a question regarding ubuntu in launchpad
[16:00] <arj154> can anyone help me with wine?
[16:00] <CipherX> IsUp: use synaptic
[16:01] <IsUp> CipherX: its ubuntu server
[16:01] <CipherX> hmmm
[16:02] <owenll> !ask | arj154
[16:02] <kozz> is there a RSS feed for https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/precise-changes/ anywhere?
[16:02] <adam_> hello
[16:03] <CipherX> not too familiar with doing it on ubuntu server
[16:03] <hailey> I'm seeing "Hard Disk Failure is Imminent" from the Disk Utility but am not sure the information is relevant.  When I run the Smart Data Self Test, it shows Reallocated Sector Count and says "Failing"  "Normalized: 21, Worst: 21, Threshold: 36 Value: 3172 sectors"
[16:04] <adam_> co jest
[16:04] <owenll> oscalation: what is the question?
[16:04] <meerkats> how do I get rid of a duplicate source list problem?
[16:04] <hailey> All other catagories say Good or N/A
[16:04] <compdoc> hailey, the last value is the important one. you need to replace that drive
[16:04] <hailey> I just did.  It is a new drive.
[16:04] <oscalation> owenll, i have some old questions that are still in open status, i want to know if i should be promoting or asking the user if the issue is resolved and to change the status from open to solved .. or to provide further info.
[16:05] <grkblood> how do I get X -configure to work? I keep getting Fatal server errors.
[16:05] <CipherX> are linux-image-3.0.0-14-generic-pae and linux-image-2.6.38-8-generic-pae just kernel images or directories?
[16:05] <arj154> lol fair enough, i was wondering, can anyone tell me why winecfg is giving me this error on wine 1.2 and ubuntu 11.10 http://pastebin.com/EG7BWKT0
[16:06] <compdoc> hailey, reallocated sectors means the drive is already failing, and as the sectors go bad, the system will freeze, data will become corrupt, and eventually, it'll die
[16:07] <CipherX> hailey: sucks that it's new, but prob something went wrong during manufactured, and somehow got past the testing or got dropped, or damaged somewhere during shipping
[16:07] <IsUp> CipherX: removed 3.x kernel and problem is gone
[16:07] <IsUp> CipherX: thanks
[16:07] <CipherX> manufacture*
[16:07] <CipherX> IsUp: cool, np, even if I didn't do much :)
[16:07] <meerkats> how do I autoremove duplicated source entries?
[16:07] <IsUp> CipherX: :) take care
[16:08] <Draco_2011> Thanx guyz
[16:08] <Draco_2011> I burn a disk and it worked :)
[16:08] <xsl> is it possible to remove the powerbutton from the lightdm, or how do i deny people to press it.
[16:09] <owenll> oscalation: then it is a launchpad question #launchpad on freenode https://help.launchpad.net/
[16:10] <kjm> exit
[16:12] <gridbag> fischer price motif is so awesome.
[16:13] <matrixiumn> bye
[16:14] <bloodybrit> i need help
[16:14] <bloodybrit> you know about those BIOS viruses which flash your bios to change it into a brick
[16:14] <bloodybrit> how do i erase a BIOS from the EEPROM if i catch one of those?
[16:15] <genii-around> bloodybrit: This is not really an Ubuntu support question. You might want to try ##hardware
[16:17] <dr_willis> bloodybrit: thats a big 'if' im not even sure theres any of those viruses around. im not sure there were many EVER around.
[16:17] <hailey> compdoc: CipherX:  Ok, I'll see if I can get RMA info and try and get it replaced.
[16:18] <dr_willis> bloodybrit:  perhaps ask in #hardware - since its not really a ubuntu support issue.
[16:19] <hailey> but I want to get a replacement so that I can clone my os.  I've just gotten it like I want it, so...
[16:23] <fachizzle> when i close my laptop, it goes to hibernate mode, can i somehow disable this?
[16:23] <xangua> fachizzle: on Energy settings
[16:24] <owenll> fachizzle: in System Settings under Power
[16:24] <fachizzle> done. thanx guys <3
[16:26] <motahareh> salam
[16:26] <motahareh> fjsakjjfklaj
[16:27] <pikaciu> a aleikum salam
[16:27] <ThePendulum> What would be a nice (free) program to process the input of a MIDI-USB keyboard through vst(i) plugins and such? I used REAPER on Windows.
[16:27] <ThePendulum> For Linux/Ubuntu
[16:27] <motahareh> how are you?
[16:28] <akem> Renoise
[16:28] <subb1> hello.
[16:29] <ThePendulum> I'm afraid I don't really have the money to purchase something like Renoise
[16:30] <pikaciu> what is Renoise ?
[16:30] <subb1> I have ubuntu 10.04, 32bit, kernel- 2.6.32-37-generic.  I need to upgrade the kernel, which is the best kernel version to switch to? without distro upgrade?
[16:31] <ThePendulum> pikaciu: Apparently an audio workstation
[16:31] <MonkeyDust> ThePendulum  useful link? http://sourceforge.net/projects/nahlwe/
[16:31] <pikaciu> thanx
[16:33] <nachox> guys, i'm working in an ubuntu 10.04 LTS with xl2tpd and openswan, i dont suppose you guys know whether there is a bug in either xl2tpd or openswan that prevents them from working together properly, right?
[16:33] <MonkeyDust> !info openswan
[16:35] <sageek> Anyone might have a clue, I Installed Gnome shell, though even if I choose 'Gnome' I get the Gnome classic, somehow only Classic, ideas?
[16:36] <luist> hey guys... how can i run gpg --sign to sign a repository without having to type a password??
[16:37] <alien2050> sageek: depending on your Ubuntu version, you might have to add to your "startup applications" the following: gnome-shell --replace
[16:37] <sageek> alien2050: It's the new 11.10
[16:37] <Flamekebab> Is anyone willing to help me setup an email server? (Dovecot, Postfix, that sort of thing)
[16:38] <MonkeyDust> sageek  type alt-f2 gnome-shell --replace
[16:38] <sageek> Nothing happens when I do Alt F2
[16:38] <sageek> I tried that before
[16:38] <alien2050> sageek: should work without....
[16:38] <alien2050> 11.10 has ALT-F2 disabled by default
[16:38] <alien2050> that's what I am running and I only had to install gnome-shell pkgs
[16:39] <alien2050> try dpkg-reconfigure gnome-shell
[16:39] <alien2050> maybe...
[16:39] <dr_willis> if it detects your system cant do 3d for some reason. it may be defaulting to the fallback mode
[16:39] <sageek> well I've got the Nvidia drivers installed
[16:39] <subb1> Flamekebab: which linux os?
[16:40] <Flamekebab> 10.04, I think
[16:40] <dr_willis> sageek:  check output of 'glxinfo' and see what the 'nvidia-settings' tool says about them.
[16:40] <xsl> is it possible to remove the powerbutton from the lightdm, or how do i deny people to press it.
[16:40] <Flamekebab> let me just check
[16:40] <alien2050> open a terminal and type: gnome-shell --replace and follow the logs
[16:40] <sageek> ah. I see I have a problem with the nvidia drivers
[16:40] <Flamekebab> subb1, 10.04
[16:40] <radon-> Anyone who uses VBA-m gba emulator? I installed it succesfully on ubuntu x64 11.10 but when i try to configure joypad it crashes, bash says nothing...
[16:41] <sageek> lets see if that was the issue, brb
[16:41] <subb1> Flamekebab: you realise there are  many steps right?
[16:42] <llutz> Flamekebab: basic things like this http://www.adomas.org/2006/08/postfix-dovecot/
[16:42] <subb1> Flamekebab: so guiding you here on chat is cumbersome. here is the easy to follow steps:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Dovecot
[16:42] <Flamekebab> subb1, indeed. So many in fact that I'm not sure which bits I'm doing wrong and all the guides I've found are incredibly unhelpful. I've got SMTP up and running
[16:42] <luist> hey guys... how can i run gpg --sign to sign a repository without having to type a password??
[16:42] <dr_willis> xsl:  perhaps someone at askubuntu knows..  not seeing anything  exactly like it.. but heres some pointers http://askubuntu.com/search?q=lightdm+disable+shutdown&submit=search
[16:42] <Flamekebab> subb1, that's the guide I followed. I gotta say, it's not easy
[16:42] <gridbag> the logitech H330 USB headset (headphones & mic) work great on ubuntu. just plug it in, and it works.
[16:43] <llutz> Flamekebab: http://www.postfix.org/docs.html    <- most important help source
[16:43] <subb1> Flamekebab: whats bugging you there?
[16:43] <Flamekebab> I was hoping (but not expecting) to find someone that might be able to help me figure out what I'm doing wrong and to answer a few questions about multiple domains
[16:43] <gridbag> I'd like to see a webpage support forum that does the latest release only.  i'm tired of stale google searches show up stuff from ancient releases.
[16:44] <Flamekebab> gridbag, seconded
[16:45] <Flamekebab> subb1, I've setup other servers (Mumble, FTP, that sort of thing) but never email. First time using a VPS (although not first time on the commandline/admining, although I'm hardly skilled)
[16:46] <Flamekebab> subb1, I've managed to get SMTP working but whilst I don't seem to get any errors trying to connect and receive mail via IMAP mail does not arrive
[16:46] <neronin> Hi! Im trying to use the CPU Frequency Monitor that ships with xubuntu to reduce my cpu speed. When it sits in the panel i can click on it and supposedly change the "governor" to "power save" performance" etc. But when i chose either one of those options it always defaults back to "ondemand" when i close and re-open it
[16:46] <neronin> Any idea why it doesnt stick to what i selected?
[16:46] <llutz> Flamekebab: check logs
[16:47] <subb1> Flamekebab, so you have already setup dovecot once right? did you remove it already? if not paste the error
[16:48] <Flamekebab> subb1, I think there's some issues with my mail.cf but I don't know enough to understand whether the issue is with Dovecot or Postfix
[16:48] <Flamekebab> llutz, you wouldn't happen to know the default log location, would you?
[16:48] <llutz> Flamekebab: /var/log
[16:48] <llutz> Flamekebab:  grep ^log_path /etc/dovecot/dovecot.conf
[16:48] <outman> hi
[16:48] <pikaciu> try with fetchmail
[16:49] <xsl> ty dr_willis i will have to search even more.. been trying all day
[16:49] <Flamekebab> llutz, not seeing anything there. Do I have to manually enable logging?
[16:49] <llutz> Flamekebab: postfix most likely /var/log/mail*
[16:49] <Flamekebab> not a squig sausage
[16:49] <ayekat> I deactivated the password in Ubuntu and now I cannot re-enable it anymore, since it requires a password for that. How can Ubuntu handle that? (root user is, as default, disabled)
[16:51] <krasnozer> when booting from a live usb, is it possible to write back to the device? it's mounted to /dev/cdrom just like a regular live cd but it's read-only for no reason (also persistance mode is not what i'm looking for)
[16:51] <MonkeyDust> ayekat  use a live cd and change the password of the not-working system
[16:52] <ayekat> MonkeyDust: Alright... thanks!
[16:52] <Somelauw> Hi, I tried sudo aptitude install netcfg, but it said package not found. Since netcfg is a pretty common package this confused me.
[16:53] <owenll> ayekat: Instructions here - http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/linux/reset-your-ubuntu-password-easily-from-the-live-cd/
[16:53] <Somelauw> ayekat: I am not sure, but I think you can reset your password if you choose safe mode in grub.
[16:53] <MonkeyDust> Somelauw  netcfg not found on my system, either
[16:54] <llutz> Flamekebab: open 3 terminals. 1: tailf /var/log/dovecot   2. tailf /var/log/mail.err   3. tailf /var/log/mail.log   (or simply use multitail)
[16:54] <llutz> Flamekebab: then send an email and watch those logs. you should be able to see, where it stucks
[16:54] <ayekat> owenll: thanks, I'll follow that...
[16:54] <dr_willis> krasnozer:  you can do a full normal install to a usb flash drive.
[16:54] <Flamekebab> llutz - none of those files exist
[16:54] <theadmin> llutz: tmux > screen > many tabs > many terminals. Why suggest the weirdest alternative eh?
[16:54] <krasnozer> Somelauw: netcfg is specific to arch linux i think
[16:56] <MonkeyDust> theadmin  byobu rules
[16:56] <jair> hello guys my machine unity crashed, and I want to restart the x server or the unity???
[16:56] <krasnozer> dr_willis: that has nothing to do with what i'm asking
[16:57] <theadmin> jair: Alt-SysRQ-K
[16:57] <jair> without loosing the icons I added customized correct?
[16:57] <llutz> Flamekebab: check your syslogd-config
[16:58] <jair> theadmin: what is SysRQ key?
[16:58] <theadmin> jair: Normally same place as PrintScreen
[16:58] <JohnNick> is there any benifit  of putting an iso on a dvd intead of using a cd?
[16:58] <theadmin> JohnNick: Unless the ISO is huge, no. It will only give you slower speeds.
[16:58] <Somelauw> krasnozer: what is the ubuntu/debian equivalent?
[16:59] <llutz> theadmin: theres nothing weird with it, if you need/want to watch all terminals at the same time
[16:59] <pikaciu> the dvd is bigger :P
[16:59] <JohnNick> thank you
[16:59] <theadmin> llutz: Ah true, tho I'd just split with tmux :D
[16:59] <llutz> theadmin: do whatever you like
[16:59] <theadmin> Somelauw: None really... NetworkManager, WICD, etc...
[16:59] <theadmin> llutz: But yeah, now I get your point
[16:59] <theadmin> Somelauw: None work as well as netcfg though
[16:59] <Flamekebab> llutz, how do I do that?
[17:00] <llutz> Flamekebab: dpkg -l "*syslog*"|grep ^i
[17:00] <Flamekebab> that doesn't output anything at all
[17:00] <Torgen> Does anyone have experience installing Ocelot on a Dell Mini 9?
[17:01] <jair> theadmin: looks like it closed everything I had going on, or sent it to the background?
[17:01] <llutz> Flamekebab: sudo aptitude install rsyslog
[17:01] <llutz> Flamekebab: or apt-get ...
[17:01] <Flamekebab> Yeah, I got it :)
[17:01] <krasnozer> Somelauw: i don't know of any, but if all you need is a cli neetwork manager try the wicd-ncurse
[17:03] <Somelauw> krasnozer: Does it work without a tray icon?
[17:03] <krasnozer> Somelauw: yes
[17:03] <yeats> Torgen: what's your question?
[17:03] <Somelauw> Will it override or try to replace or try to uninstall networkmanager?
[17:04] <Torgen> I got the ISO onto a pendrive, but the installer 'suggests' 4.4G of storage and a net connection
[17:04] <Torgen> but 'continue' is greyed so it's not really a suggestion
[17:04] <yeats> Torgen: how much storage do you have?
[17:05] <Torgen> it's ssd, so 4 GB should mean 4 GiB, but the util says 3.6GB
[17:05] <llutz> Flamekebab: then check /etc/rsyslog.d/ for "postfix.conf" or create one like this http://pastebin.com/WewrRFKx   . Also check /etc/dovecot/dovecot.conf for "log_path ....", make sure theres a logfile set. restart postfix, dovecot, rsyslog after this
[17:05] <krasnozer> Somelauw: not uninstall, just desactivate at launch, you can switch between them at any time by start/stoping the apropiate services
[17:05] <yeats> Torgen: you could try the alternate installer, which may not have that requirement to continue
[17:05] <Torgen> I mean, why would someone make an ssd and not use a power of 2?
[17:05] <llutz> Flamekebab: you won't find your issues without logs
[17:05] <yeats> !alternate | Torgen
[17:05] <edbian> Torgen, does it say 4 Giga-bits?    giga-bits != giga-bytes
[17:06] <Flamekebab> llutz, I rebooted the server and the mail logs are there now
[17:06] <Torgen> it's bytes
[17:06] <edbian> Torgen, mmmm strange.  Filesystem overhead?
[17:06] <Torgen> possible?
[17:06] <dr_willis> i did a full install of lubuntu onto a 4gb usb flash drive..
[17:06] <dr_willis> just not much room for actual work.
[17:06] <Somelauw> krasnozer: If I install wicd, is there a way to revert the change?
[17:07] <edbian> Torgen, yeah, ext4 e.g. uses like 8% storage
[17:07] <Torgen> also, it says 'available'... not sure if it's counting the stuff that's already on the disk against the quota, when it's just going to end up formatted
[17:07] <edbian> Torgen, or something
[17:07] <occupy417> Quick question; After doing update yesterday ubuntuone is hogging mem / cpu, had to  killall -9 the syncdeamon just to get desktop to respond anyone else having issue's?
[17:07] <llutz> Flamekebab: to track down smtp-issues, you also want to have a look at the very unintuitive http://www.jetmore.org/john/code/swaks/
[17:07] <Torgen> the existing hardy install got into some weird state where it claimed it had updates downloaded but couldn't install them
[17:08] <MonkeyDust> occupy417  that's a yes/no question
[17:08] <Torgen> possibly related to the small ssd
[17:08] <Flamekebab> llutz, for now SMTP is the only thing working properly
[17:08] <krasnozer> Somelauw: yes with update-rc.d for instance
[17:08] <edbian> Torgen, weird  (4Gb is probably not enough for your OS)
[17:08] <edbian> Torgen, even most linux
[17:09] <Metroshica> what does update-rc.d do exactly?
[17:09] <occupy417> MonkeyDust, lol ok I'll make it simple, is there a known bug with a fix :) all I can find is OLD bugs
[17:09] <Torgen> it's possible the whole thing was ill-considered on Dell's part
[17:09] <Torgen> I think they stopped offering linux netbooks soon after
[17:09] <Gentoo64> Torgen, do you have a 4gb drive? :s
[17:09] <edbian> Metroshica, puts things in /etc/init.d/  marks them executable and links them to the correct runlevel folder /etc/rcX.d/
[17:09] <Somelauw> If it doesn't work, I have no wired network to fall back to.
[17:09] <Torgen> I only got it because there was a promotion where you could get a cheap netbook with the purchase of a real PC
[17:10] <edbian> Torgen, do you have a problem you want us to help solve?
[17:10] <Torgen> I'm downloading the alternate ISO, so we'll see how that works
[17:10] <krasnozer> Somelauw: be careful then lol do you know how to start/stop services ?
[17:10] <Somelauw> krasnozer: I do.
[17:11] <somsip> 0/quit
[17:11] <edbian> Metroshica, At least, that is how to manually create a boot time script
[17:11] <genii-around> Metroshica: It adds entries into /etc/rc1.d /etc/rc2.d and so forth to run something or not at specified runlevels ( depending on the arguments you fed it)
[17:11] <Gentoo64> Torgen, archlinux i found to be very small for a "proper" distro, you can get gnome 3 and loads more takes up ~2gb
[17:11] <Somelauw> sudo service NetworkManager start
[17:11] <Torgen> since I'm going to give the thing to my mom, installing to a flash drive and requiring her to have it plugged in probably won't fly
[17:12] <krasnozer> Somelauw: thats right you'll be fine
[17:13] <Torgen> Is archlinux user-friendly enough for my not-very-technical mom?
[17:13] <Torgen> I suspect not
[17:13] <edbian> Torgen, not really :P
[17:13] <Gentoo64> Torgen, well you could install it..
[17:13] <Gentoo64> then let her use it
[17:13] <Somelauw> Torgen: Maybe if you install it for her.
[17:14] <edbian> Torgen, but their docs are excellent for technical users
[17:14] <Somelauw> And install an easy wm/de.
[17:14] <MonkeyDust> Torgen  Linux Mint is the easiest for non-tech moms
[17:14] <pikaciu> Torgen: Linpus is very easy
[17:15] <edbian> He needs something easy and under 4Gb
[17:15] <llutz> Flamekebab: as i said earlier, send a mail and watch the logs to findout where it hangs
[17:16] <pikaciu> edbian: sabayon with fce
[17:16] <edbian> pikaciu, tell him
[17:16] <pikaciu> 2G
[17:16] <JohnJohn> can viruses get through a virtaul machine into your actual OS ?
[17:16] <Gentoo64> no
[17:17] <Pici> ##linux or #ubunut-offtopic would be more approrpriate places to ask about non-ubuntu distros.
[17:17] <edbian> JohnJohn, most of the people who build / design virtual machines go to great lengths to make sure that isn't possible
[17:17]  * dr_willis tests windwows viruses and malware in wine... to see what they put where. :)
[17:18] <JohnJohn> thanks for the answers
[17:18] <edbian> wine is not a virtual machine :)
[17:18] <edbian> JohnJohn, sure
[17:19] <dr_willis> worse case in wine.. they mess with the users files...  so a vmachine would be even more secure. :) for the truely paranoid, i think ive seen vbox have some copy on write, (cow?) type feature that puts all changes made to the os - in a seperate file. any virus dirty deeds could then be undone.
[17:19] <edbian> cow  haha
[17:20] <dr_willis> http://www.electricmonk.nl/log/2011/09/24/multiple-virtualbox-vms-using-one-base-image-copy-on-write/
[17:20] <edbian> JohnJohn, there is a such thing as side channel attacks, it's very complicated to pull one off and they are not very powerful
[17:20] <dr_willis> .00
[17:20] <edbian> This is unrelated to Ubuntu but this is a fun topic :)
[17:21] <edbian> .00 ?
[17:21] <dr_willis> keyboard key got stuck.
[17:21] <dr_willis> grandsone got cookie crumbs on my keyboard.
[17:21] <edbian> ugh, these grandchildren.  Am I right?
[17:21] <dr_willis> hes 3.. thinks its funny when grandpa yells... when he hits the big blue power button.. and runs away.
[17:22] <edbian> hahaha
[17:22] <dr_willis> Gotta set up MAME for him on a space pc.. he can hadle a few of the old classics.
[17:23] <johann> Goodevening!
[17:23] <dr_willis> I dont think a 3 yr old can hurt my HanHo HotRod Controller :)
[17:23] <edbian> dr_willis, he's just trying to put things in perspective for you: http://xkcd.com/722/
[17:23] <edbian> johann, good morning
[17:23] <johann> Could someone help me out on a problem?
[17:23] <edbian> johann, what's the problem?
[17:24] <johann> I am trying to get my eBooks working of a format .acsm (Adobe Digital Editions) but I'm not getting it to work.
[17:24] <edbian> johann, working 'of a format' ?
[17:25] <jutnux> Just keep it as .epub or .mobi.
[17:25] <johann> @jutnux: Won't work, this is the only extension I can get.
[17:25] <johann> @edbian: it's an .acsm file, won't work though.
[17:26] <ninjah> test
[17:26] <edbian> johann, google says you need to install the adobe software in wine
[17:26] <dr_willis> converting FROM acsm to epub or mobi is what you want to do?
[17:26] <linuxscreenshari> hello, what is the best screen sharing (with control) solution for linux/ubuntu ?
[17:27] <Sander^home> After a power failure, Ubuntu was unable to find the hd UUID of /.. How can I fix that?
[17:27] <johann> I have done that, they recommended to drag and drop the .acsm file in Adobe Software, though Adobe would completely ignore it and don't do anything!
[17:27] <edbian> linuxscreenshari, define screen sharing
[17:27] <ninjah> I've got an Ubuntu LAMP server with a custom install of Perl. How do I get apache to use the new perl?
[17:27] <johann> @dr_willis, is that is possible, yes.
[17:27] <dr_willis> linuxscreenshari:  depends on the details, local lan, over internet, single person, or to a class.. so on..
[17:27] <johann> is = if
[17:27] <linuxscreenshari> edbian: so that i can control the screen/computer of a friend
[17:27] <linuxscreenshari> dr_willis: one person, on the internet
[17:27] <atif> hello every one
[17:27] <dr_willis> linuxscreenshari:  teamviewer is handy for that.
[17:27] <carlos__> hi
[17:27] <edbian> linuxscreenshari, easiest method: teamviewer,  most open: vnc
[17:28] <JohnJohn> remote desktop viewer?
[17:28] <edbian> linuxscreenshari, best: ssh ;)
[17:28] <linuxscreenshari> edbian: ssh can't control the screen can it?
[17:28] <kroq-gar78> linuxscreenshari: teamview isa easiest
[17:28] <edbian> linuxscreenshari, it's not graphical no
[17:28] <atif> am new to linux  and am using ubuntu 11.10 i have BEQ scanner 4300 but my system is not detecting it
[17:28] <atif> any suggestion?
[17:28] <linuxscreenshari> edbian: yes ok
[17:28] <ubuntufreak> I have a problem with my unity in Ubuntu 11.10 installation after installing the Ubuntu-Tweak tool and cleaning up the files my unity is completely gone and i am left with this screen http://img62.imageshack.us/img62/1610/desktopkvd.png
[17:29] <linuxscreenshari> edbian: what do you mean "most open: vnc"? why is teamviewer easier than vnc?
[17:29] <atif> am new to linux  and am using ubuntu 11.10 i have BenQ scanner 4300 but my system is not detecting it
[17:29] <jutnux> ubuntufreak: Can you open a command line?
[17:29] <edbian> linuxscreenshari, teamviewer does not require you set up port forwarding or find IP addresses so it is easier
[17:29] <Sander^home> chroot: failed to run command `/bin/bash': Exec format error<-- Does this mean I have booted up with 32 bit cd, where my install is 64bit?
[17:29] <edbian> linuxscreenshari, it is not open source software, vnc is 100% open source
[17:29] <kroq-gar78> linuxscreenshari: most open source (following Linux rules/philosophy) is vnc; teamviewer is proprietary
[17:30] <linuxscreenshari> oh i see
[17:30] <linuxscreenshari> thanks for the information
[17:30] <ubuntufreak> jutnux, yes
[17:30] <edbian> linuxscreenshari, sure
[17:30] <sahed> hi , my new wireless mouse does't work , can somebody help ??
[17:30] <pikaciu> linuxscreenshari: try FreeNX
[17:30] <jutnux> ubuntufreak: Type: sudo apt-ger install unity
[17:30] <kroq-gar78> sahed: name and model to get started?
[17:31] <JohnJohn> is the driver installed?
[17:31] <jutnux> ubuntufreak: Type: sudo apt-get install unity
[17:31] <atif> am new to linux  and am using ubuntu 11.10 i have BenQ scanner 4300 but my system is not detecting it
[17:31] <afeijo> how can I install the compiz cube thing in my ubuntu 11.10 ??
[17:31] <edbian> sahed, turn it on, plug it in, boot the computer   (in that order)
[17:31] <edbian> sahed, Have you done that?
[17:31] <linuxscreenshari> pikaciu: thanks i'll look into that too
[17:31] <sahed> yep
[17:31] <sahed> model Apacer m821
[17:31] <ubuntufreak> jutnux, ok will do that
[17:31] <dr_willis> afeijo:  cube can break unity. theres some guides on the webupd8 or omgubuntu blog sites on getting cube working in unity
[17:32] <edbian> sahed, do you see anything about this mouse in the output of dmesg?  It's big, if you want to pastebin it that'd be great: paste.ubuntu.com
[17:32] <ubuntufreak> jutnux, when i try that it says unity is already the newest version
[17:32] <edbian> afeijo, it's a shame, cube is fun!
[17:32] <jutnux> ubuntufreak: Install Compiz settings manager.
[17:32] <sahed> edbrian , what is dmesg ?
[17:32] <kroq-gar78> edbian: lol cube IS fun ;)
[17:32] <kroq-gar78> !dmesg | sahed
[17:32] <dr_willis> cube is annoying.
[17:32] <owenll> atif: this looks a bit complicated if you're new to linux http://zoffix.com/other/Installing-Benq-SZW-4300U-Scanner-on-Ubuntu
[17:33] <edbian> sahed, dmesg is a command you run in the terminal
[17:33] <ubuntufreak> jutnux, yep ccsm is also present
[17:33] <sahed> edbrian , i'll try
[17:33] <jutnux> ubuntufreak: Run it then..
[17:34] <atif> i will do it u please guide me
[17:34] <ubuntufreak> jutnux, what should i do with the ccsm ? simply run it ?
[17:34] <anirath> IS there an easy way to just take my entire Ubuntu installation and move it to a new computer?
[17:34] <MonkeyDust> anirath  yes, moment
[17:34] <xangua> ubuntufreak: cube won't work with Unity
[17:34] <jutnux> ubuntufreak: And check the unity settings.
[17:34] <MonkeyDust> anirath  how experienced are you, what does 'easy' mean to you?
[17:34] <jutnux> anirath: CloneZilla.
[17:35] <anirath> monkeyDust - I'm decently experienced.  I'm no pro user, but I'm not afraid of the command prompt.
[17:35] <ubuntufreak> jutnux, xangua , the ubuntu unity plugin is selected in the ccsm
[17:35] <kroq-gar78> jutnux: Clonezilla is for computers that are EXACTLY the same; no hadrware or software diffs
[17:36] <MonkeyDust> anirath  http://paste.ubuntu.com/784807/
[17:36] <owenll> atif: first you need to download the firmware
[17:36] <kroq-gar78> ubuntufreak: let others confirm, but maybe uncheck and recheck?
[17:36] <afeijo> dr_willis, I had it working with 11.04, had to reinstall it here, but now it wont work. I ran an command that checks for compatibility, and it now show that my machine cannot run it? like no OpenGL or something
[17:36] <ubuntufreak> kroq-gar78, tried that too but no help
[17:36] <kroq-gar78> ubuntufreak: "unity --replace"?
[17:37] <anirath> MonkeyDust thank you.  This is only for programs though right?
[17:37] <proxx8187> Does anyone know if i can just remove gdm and does it just drop me back to a tty at boot ?? and if i have a user defined session can i just use startx or must i specify the session (i hate gdm)
[17:37] <kroq-gar78> anirath: everything
[17:37] <babalu> that is being asked*
[17:37] <babalu> how can i change the password that's being ask when i try to install a new package?
[17:37] <anirath> kroq-gar78 really?  Alright.  Wicked
[17:37] <jutnux> kroq-gar78: Ubuntu should change the hardware apon boot / recognise the new hardware apon boot.
[17:37] <MonkeyDust> anirath  yes, you need to backup first and then copy the backup to the other machine
[17:37] <kroq-gar78> anirath: also, that's if the machine is EXACTLY the same
[17:38] <llutz> proxx8187: use rcconf, sysv-rc-conf  or simply rename /etc/init/gdm.conf into ...conf-disabled
[17:38] <anirath> kroq-gar78 what to do if not exactly the same?
[17:38] <kroq-gar78> jutnux: ok I guess so
[17:38] <kroq-gar78> anirath: well, I'm not experienced w/ clonezilla or moving installs, so don't listen to me ;)
[17:38] <kroq-gar78> anirath: I just image my installs for backup/restore to same computer
[17:39] <anirath> monkeydust thanks for your help!
[17:39] <ubuntufreak> kroq-gar78, doesn't help either it removed the title bar of all the opened windows :(
[17:39] <Funcan> Hi. How can I open an ftp share in folder viewer on oneric please? I'm struggling to find things in unity :-(
[17:39] <proxx8187> llutz; ty thnx, but if i remove it with apt-get these things should be handled by default right ?? , ill just get a tty a boot right ?
[17:39] <kroq-gar78> ubuntufreak: login and back out maybe?
[17:40] <babalu> how can i change the password that's being asked when i try to install a new package?
[17:40] <proxx8187> babalu passwd from the console
[17:40] <kroq-gar78> Funcan: at the top menu bar, click on file and then "connect to server"
[17:40] <sahed> edbrian , http://paste.ubuntu.com/784809/
[17:40] <Funcan> kroq-gar78: That's the one, thanks
[17:40] <ubuntufreak> kroq-gar78, would try that
[17:40] <babalu> proxx8187: that's the user password
[17:41] <sahed> edbian, http://paste.ubuntu.com/784809/
[17:41] <babalu> proxx8187: i know that password already, but it doesn't work when i want to install a package (even though i'm sudoer)
[17:41] <proxx8187> then first go ' sudo su '
[17:41] <proxx8187> oke sorry
[17:41] <edbian> sahed, reading...
[17:41] <kroq-gar78> Funcan: the way to get the regular "File","View","Options" and all in Unity is to click on the window (if it isn't the active window) and then go to the top where the name of the window is
[17:41] <sahed> edbian, thanks
[17:42] <edbian> sahed, looks like it is being rapidly connected and disconnected over and over?
[17:42] <kroq-gar78> proxx8187: NEVER do "sudo su" not sure why, heard there is security bad things. So, do "sudo -i" instead
[17:42] <share> ^
[17:42] <edbian> sahed, with the message "port 4 disabled by hub?"
[17:42] <motahareh_> jjgkjsg
[17:43] <motahareh_> salam
[17:43] <babalu> i've changed the password of both me and root, but this password does not work when i'm trying to install a new package :(
[17:43] <sahed> edbian,  yep I tried too many time
[17:44] <edbian> sahed, what USB hub is it talking about?
[17:45] <sahed> edbian,  about connected and disconnected is for the old mouse that i had
[17:46] <sahed> edbian, for the new one I don't know if really works
[17:46] <edbian> sahed, hang on
[17:47] <edbian> sahed, I'm not sure
[17:48] <sahed> edbian,  for what dude ??
[17:48] <edbian> sahed, what?
[17:49] <edbian> sahed, here's what you  need to do.  Turn the computer off, take the mouse out, boot the computer, log in, plug in the mouse, run dmesg, start googling the errors about the mouse you find in dmesg
[17:50] <edbian> sahed, The biggest problem is that your dmesg right now has 100's of entries of you plugging and unplugging the mouse
[17:51] <edbian> sahed, and apparently you have two different mouse's that you were doing this with
[17:52] <sahed> edbian,  I'll do thanks for your time,
[17:54] <usr13> balthus: If you are using sudo to install a new package, you will need to use the user password.
[17:55] <usr13> balthus: Sorry, wrong nic
[17:55] <edbian> silly usr13
[17:56] <usr13> babalu: If you are using sudo to install a new package, you will need to use the user password.
[17:56] <babalu> usr13: it works now, thanks
[17:56] <vouth> Hi. In Banshee, all of the files on my external hard drive are being listed with a filesize of -1 bytes, with or without the drive already mounted. Here's the terminal output: http://pastebin.com/T7VpL49f Any thoughts??
[17:57] <usr13> babalu: Did you enable the root user?
[17:57] <extrapolated> can someone explain this: http://i.imgur.com/ht1mG.png
[17:57] <babalu> usr13: what i did was to change every user password's (mine and root's) to the same password and then reboot
[17:57] <babalu> usr13: but i think my pckage was not installed properly so i reinstalled it using dpkg
[17:57] <usr13> babalu: Did you set a password for root?  (Therefore enabling the root account?)
[17:58] <babalu> usr13: yes i changed the password for root to the same password than mine
[17:58] <extrapolated> why would that complete sentence i had typed else where appear right there in ghex2 of the stock 'ls' that comes with ubuntu 11.10?
[17:58] <usr13> babalu: If so, you need to undu what you've done?
[17:58] <babalu> usr13: why?
[17:59] <xangua> babalu: whyt did you enable root pasword on first place¿
[18:00] <usr13> Because it is a breach of security. (See my PM)
[18:01] <Flamekebab> hmm, SMTP seems to be working just fine but my inbox is empty (both in my client and on the server. Mail is being bounced). Suggestions?
[18:04] <ubuntu> hiaszi
[18:04] <ubuntu> #plemiona
[18:04] <jconnolly> anyone know why my google-chrome instance wouldn't save my history anywhere?
[18:04] <jconnolly> permissions probably, but which dir?
[18:07] <xangua> jconnolly: .googlechrome or something like that, there is also opensource chromium on repositories
[18:07] <owenll> jconnolly: .cache/chromium possibly?
[18:07] <jconnolly> nm, rm -fr ~/.config/google-chrome/Default/History* did the trick
[18:07] <johann> My apologies, my internet connection stopped working.
[18:07] <jconnolly> (after restarting chrome)
[18:08] <johann> How can I get Adobe Digital Editions working?
[18:08] <extrapolated> look in mail.err or whatever logging facility your SMTP daemon is using, Flamekebab
[18:08] <motahareh_> khodahafez
[18:08] <xangua> !appdb | johann
[18:09] <Flamekebab> extrapolated, nothing relevant in there (as in there's stuff but it's from an hour ago and unrelated)
[18:10] <vouth> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Executable_and_Linkable_Format
[18:10] <johann> @xangua: I know, but the versions of Wine and Adobe Digital Editions can't be found there.
[18:10] <vouth> oops, sorry, that was an acciden
[18:10] <xangua> johann: versions of wine...¿¿
[18:11] <johann> xangua: I use wine to work with Adobe Digital Editions, and I don't know how to work with the AppDB?
[18:11] <urk> trying to install teamspeak3 but repositories still only provide ts2?
[18:12] <theadmin> johann: http://appdb.winehq.org -- search for the app. Will tell you how well-supported it is, and if possible, what to do to make it work better.
[18:12] <extrapolated> are you just trying to get your email or are you trying to use your ISP SMTP as a relay?
[18:12] <johann> @theadmin: I have done that, though the users there advised to drag/drop the files (.acsm files) into Adobe Digital Editions, but that doesn't work.
[18:12] <Boreeas> Is there a way to install the sun java6 jdk without the jre and the binaries?
[18:13] <extrapolated> Flamekebab*
[18:13] <Flamekebab> extrapolated, I'm setting up an email server. SMTP is working fine, as it happens.
[18:13] <theadmin> Boreeas: Um, no, JDK requires JRE to work...
[18:14] <Boreeas> theadmin: I do have the JRE, but installed with an external update script
[18:14] <Boreeas> theadmin: apt-get wants to reinstall it every time, though
[18:14] <theadmin> Boreeas: Ah, I see, so you want to, basically, make apt ignore the jre package?
[18:14] <Boreeas> and bin, yes
[18:15] <theadmin> Boreeas: If so, run this: echo "whatever-the-jre-package-is-called hold" | sudo dpkg --set-selections
[18:15] <theadmin> Boreeas: Replace "whatever-the-jre-package-is-called" appropriately, of course
[18:16] <theadmin> ...probably not what you want exactly though, but might work out
[18:17] <Crash_O-D> how do you get the sd card to show in list to open it
[18:17] <Boreeas> After that just use apt-get install sun-java6-jdk?
[18:17] <extrapolated> of course SMTP is working fine. it is a tried and tested protocol, but someone's SMTP _server_ is not working. clearly yours.
[18:17] <extrapolated> so explain what you are trying to do , Flamekebab
[18:18] <Hathadar> I am wanting to work through the opengl superbible 5th edition.  Due to a hardware failure I am running on a old laptop that does not meet the minimum opengl requirements for the book.  My headless server does however.  How could I fake a local login and execute programs that will display on a monitor over SSH?
[18:18] <Boreeas> Hmm, it won't install without the dependencies it thinks it needs
[18:18] <Flamekebab> extrapolated, *my* SMTP server is working nicely. I can send email, SSL is working. However Postfix is bouncing inbound emails meaning I can't then pick them up using my client
[18:19] <theadmin> Boreeas: Yeah I suppose, wait, I have an idea, just gotta figure out how to do it
[18:19] <extrapolated> are you trying to mail to yourself?
[18:20] <dtcrshr> hello! iv just isntalled ubuntu 10.04 lts on my hp netbook, and both my cabled and wifi adapter shows on lspci
[18:20] <dtcrshr> im monitoring var/log/syslog and when i activate the wireless button on the netbook, some usb errors appears, and the led wont even go to the activated position
[18:20] <dtcrshr> what should I do?
[18:20] <dtcrshr> i cant connect after all... tryed to use a fixed ip on the cabled connection, but also didnt work
[18:21] <dtcrshr> my wifi adaptor is a ralink rt3090
[18:21] <jpmh> how do I set keybindings with 11.10
[18:21] <theadmin> Boreeas: Meh, no idea, but basically, what you want is force dpkg to think of a package as installed one
[18:21] <theadmin> Boreeas: Or, you could build a deb package and install it, indeed.
[18:22] <motahareh_> jkjlfjdalk
[18:22] <motahareh_> how can open socket 5
[18:22] <motahareh_> ?
[18:22] <motahareh_> please
[18:23] <dtcrshr> hmm easy
[18:23] <dtcrshr> this one did the trick
[18:23] <dtcrshr> chttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1490123&page=3
[18:24] <Flamekebab> extrapolated, I've tried sending email both to myself and to external addresses
[18:24] <Flamekebab> both work just fine in terms of sending
[18:25] <Flamekebab> of course the ones to myself never arrive because it seems, figuratively speaking, my inbox doesn't work
[18:25] <epall> hey guys, I seem to have borked my MBR. After upgrading from 10.04 to 10.10, I'm getting "Primary hard disk fail" every time I try to boot. I've tried to repair grub with my LiveCD half a dozen times to no avail. What do I try next?
[18:26] <extrapolated> so where are you logging all of this?
[18:26] <theadmin> epall: Grub doesn't give messages like that... You sure it's not a BIOS message?
[18:26] <epall> theadmin: Pretty sure it's a BIOS error--it's not even getting to grub
[18:26] <Stepnjump> Something is weird. I cannot see my other computer from the network but I DO see it from Windows. Any suggestions?
[18:26] <epall> theadmin: could it be a partition table issue?
[18:26] <theadmin> epall: Sounds like so, yeah
[18:26] <epall> theadmin: I've re-written it with frisk a couple of times
[18:26] <afeijo> I try to enable nvidia drivers here, with nvidia-xconfig then reboot. Now I'm stuck with a low resolution 640x480! HELP
[18:27] <epall> theadmin: it happened immediately after I upgraded my distro, so it seems to be something grub did to my MBR
[18:27] <afeijo> it should be 1920x1040
[18:27] <nvz> sounds like denial to me..
[18:27] <epall> if I use the LiveCD to boot form hard disk, I get "isolinux: Disk error 01, AX = 0201, drive 80"
[18:27] <Stepnjump> afeijo, it happened to me too once! All I could find to do is back up the computer and reinstall Ubuntu from scratch
[18:28] <afeijo> argh
[18:28] <Flamekebab> extrapolated, /var/log/mail.*
[18:28] <nvz> denial is usually what causes people to to get primary hard disk failures and then go through the motions of blaming the MBR, partition table, filesystem..etc rather than buying a new HDD
[18:28] <nvz> :-P
[18:29] <Stepnjump> there might be a way to reset it though
[18:29] <Stepnjump> maybe you could TRY resetting your gnome afeijo
[18:29] <epall> nvz: I can mount the drive just fine -- would e2fsck turn up anything?
[18:29] <vouth> Hi. In Banshee, all of the files on my external hard drive are being listed with a filesize of -1 bytes, with or without the drive already mounted. Here's the terminal output: http://pastebin.com/T7VpL49f Any thoughts??
[18:29] <Stepnjump> Google on how to reset gnome to default.. There are a few hidden directories you need to delete afeijo. That MIGHT fix it
[18:30] <afeijo> ok
[18:30] <Stepnjump> Though I never tested it
[18:30] <Stepnjump> You will loose all your settings. Look for gnome and reset
[18:30] <epall> nvz: how would I check SMART status of the drive from a LiveCD?
[18:30] <pippo> ciaoo
[18:31] <Stepnjump> here it is afeijo: rm -rf .gnome .gnome2 .gconf .gconfd .metacity
[18:31] <afeijo> yeah I found it
[18:31] <afeijo> I'll try soon
[18:31] <Stepnjump> after afeijo, log off and log back in
[18:31] <nvz> epall: exactly the same way you do from a normal system
[18:31] <epall> nvz: thanks! will try
[18:31] <Stepnjump> Something is weird. I cannot see my other computer from the network but I DO see it from Windows. Any suggestions?
[18:31] <honderd> hey i'm upgrading a system, but to 11.10 can't get compiz to start up with "gnome-classic" but it works just fine if i run compiz --replace. can somebody tell me where the switch is ?
[18:32] <nvz> epall: this is all irrelevant the bios is generating the error and doesn't know or care about smart, filesystem, or any of that crap
[18:32] <Stepnjump> afeijo, please let me know if it worked for you
[18:32] <charlvn> hi all, i'm using ubuntu 11.10 on the macbook pro 8.1 but i'm not happy with unity and am looking to use openbox instead
[18:32] <epall> nvz: why would the BIOS call the drive shot if SMART says it's all good?
[18:32] <Stepnjump> afeijo, you might want to reset your compiz settings too if it still doesn't work
[18:32] <epall> nvz: if you're suggesting an actual hardware failure, wouldn't SMART notice?
[18:32] <charlvn> what i am wondering is how ubuntu handles hotkeys like the audio, keyboard backlight and volume control
[18:32] <nvz> epall: its not saying the drive is shot it doesnt care about that either
[18:32] <charlvn> does anyone happen to know which process manages that?
[18:32] <epall> nvz: what is it saying?
[18:33] <Sander^home> Im booting from a rescue cd now.. HOw do I find out if my system on disk is 32bit or 64bit?
[18:33] <nvz> epall: depending on if its manuallly configured or auto its saying whatever it thinks is there it cannot find a bootsector on
[18:33] <`marcus_> Hello, I seemed to have edited the permissions for this directory, how do I set the owner on the directory and it's sub-directories?
[18:33] <theadmin> charlvn: I tend to beleive that those are X things
[18:33] <`marcus_> I know I've done it before, I just forget the command
[18:33] <epall> nvz: wouldn't grub-install re-write the bootsector?
[18:33] <theadmin> `marcus_: chmod -R user:group dirname
[18:33] <epall> nvz: it's manually configured to boot from HDD0
[18:34] <epall> nvz: could my BIOS be too old to handle grub2 or something?
[18:34] <nvz> epall: doubt it unless you enabled some uefi feature
[18:34] <lucas_> Has anyone had this issue before? :https://privatepaste.com/bbc7daf1fc
[18:34] <charlvn> theadmin: that would make the most sense to me as well (at least for the screen brightness) but wasn't sure about the volume control for example
[18:34] <charlvn> theadmin: did some googling but didn't return much, i'll do some more digging on my system
[18:35] <epall> nvz: so if it's  not a hardware failure and the issue is the MBR, why did it  happen immediately after I installed 10.10?
[18:35] <theadmin> charlvn: Well, according to the "Keyboard Shorcuts"-style apps, these keys are called "XF86VolumeUp" and such. XF86 stands for XFree86, which I beleive is the same thing as Xorg or X
[18:35] <`marcus_> theadmin: it says "chmod: invalid mode: `marcus:website'"
[18:35] <theadmin> `marcus_: Bah, chown, not chmod, sorry
[18:36] <`marcus_> Ok
[18:36] <lucas_> Sorry, used the wrong paste program: http://paste.ubuntu.com/784872/
[18:36] <nvz> epall: idk.. does your bios checksum the bootsector?
[18:36] <epall> nvz: don't think so
[18:36] <`marcus_> theadmin: my FTP still gets a connection error, I know its because of the permissions because it happened after I set the permissions before
[18:36] <epall> nvz: so you assert something is wrong with the drive and I should go buy a new one?
[18:36] <epall> nvz: how would I validate that hypothesis?
[18:37] <theadmin> `marcus_: Hmm, you sure you have permissions to change permissions of that directory? Try the chown command with sudo
[18:37] <Torgen> ok, I put the alternate ISO on a usb key and the menu comes up, but it doesn't boot or start the installer. It just beeps.
[18:37] <`marcus_> theadmin: I used sudo when I did it
[18:38] <schmichael> i'm trying to upgrade from 11.04 to 11.10, but the upgrade manager breaks on the postgresql 9.1 packages i have installed from a ppa... any advice?
[18:38] <charlvn> theadmin: interesting, thanks for the tip, i'll see how i can get that to work nicely under openbox
[18:38] <theadmin> `marcus_: Okay, what about the permissions UGW style? Do: "ls -l /path/to/your/dir"
[18:38] <owenll> schmichael: disable them in software sources before upgrade
[18:38] <theadmin> charlvn: xmodmap might be of some help
[18:39]  * mdennis upgraded to 3.0.0-14 kernel from 3.0.0-13 (and several other updates) in macbookpro 8,3 and no longer has working keyboard or trackpad (they're completely frozen, all keys all functions)
[18:39] <bullgard4> schmichael: 'Follow the advice given in the PPA for your special case.
[18:39] <mdennis> any ideas on getting a working keyboard again?
[18:39] <schmichael> owenll: i thought the upgrade manager disabled third party sources
[18:39] <sixtyby3> Hi All
[18:39] <sixtyby3> Anybody else having trouble accessing ubuntu.com
[18:39] <schmichael> bullgard4: hm, hadn't thought that they might have instructions on the ppa page... checking
[18:39] <theadmin> mdennis: The old kernel should still be present in the boot menu. Boot to it and check if it works.
[18:40] <owenll> schmichael: I had the same problem when I upgraded and had to manually disable a few
[18:40] <schmichael> bullgard4: i see no special instructions here: https://launchpad.net/~pitti/+archive/postgresql
[18:40] <`marcus_> theadmin: It says this: http://pastebin.com/2FUgfqqx
[18:40] <schmichael> owenll: interesting... i'll try it
[18:40] <mdennis> I don't actually get a menu any more, just direct to graphical xfce login screen (I'll see if I can change /etc/menu.lst)
[18:40] <theadmin> That doesn't make any sense...
[18:40] <`marcus_> Ik, what the hell did I do ;-;
[18:40] <theadmin> `marcus_: Okay, apparently no permissions there, try the same ls thing with sudo
[18:41] <phil_phys> dear friends, I can't connect to internet with Huawei E220 how can I do?
[18:41] <owenll> schmichael: I think mine was skype if i remember correctly
[18:41] <cosmic> help me  ... Why can not I install trinity-desktop
[18:41] <bullgard4> schmichael: If they have not given special instructions then de-install this package (and never re-install PPAs except in utmost urgency).
[18:41] <theadmin> phil_phys: usb_modeswitch is what you're looking for.
[18:42] <schmichael> bullgard4: ppas are one of the most useful things about ubuntu... i'll uninstall the packages as a last resort
[18:42] <`marcus_> theadmin: It says this now: http://pastebin.com/zZ73uSGg
[18:42] <cosmic> help me  ... Why can not I install trinity-desktop
[18:42] <schmichael> i'm not sure how power users / developers could happily use ubuntu without ppas
[18:42] <owenll> cosmic: can you provide more info about your problem and version of ubuntu
[18:43] <theadmin> `marcus_: Baah... This is odd... sudo chmod -R a+x your_directory
[18:43] <theadmin> `marcus_: This should fix it
[18:44] <`marcus_> theadmin: Yes, thank you! Everything works now :D
[18:44] <theadmin> `marcus_: Anytime lol
[18:44]  * theadmin is glad she could help
[18:45] <opticlove> maybe a bit off topic, but what is the fastest audio player for *nix?
[18:45] <PeaceMaker> I am thinking to switch to Debian for my servers. When I read debian forums, it seemed many of the forum members are not very friendly. Is it just me or any of you feel the same?
[18:45] <theadmin> !best | opticlove
[18:45] <opticlove> well would it be arrogant to say that swiftfox is faster than firefox?
[18:45] <phil_phys> could you help me?
[18:45] <melle> Hi all, when I issue 'sudo service mysql remove' I get the error: "The script you are attempting to invoke has been converted to an Upstart job, but remove is not supported for Upstart jobs.". update-rc.d doesn't work either... Any suggestions?
[18:45] <grkblood> how do I get X -configure to work? I keep getting Fatal server errors.
[18:46] <orated> Hello! I did dd of usb drive to .img file and when I try to mount it using - sudo /path/to/file.img /mnt, I get error - mount: you must specify the filesystem type. -t auto/msdos or -o loop not working. How can I fix it?
[18:46] <theadmin> I suppose somewhat, but then again, opticlove, it depends on how much format support you need... You could simply use aplay, or hell, cat something > /dev/dsp
[18:47] <kikitheman> Hello , I have a "problem" with Ubuntu . Before I had Ubuntu and Windows installed on the same drive ( C and E ) .Now I got an SSD and I installed windows on it . How can I make Ubuntu show up in the boot options again ,without reinstalling it ?
[18:47] <theadmin> PeaceMaker: Yeah, Debian people are weird. But it's offtopic here. Can you pm me? I could try to find the right distro for you, I did so for about 5 people now and they all left satisfied :D Well, one switched back to Windows later but that's not my fault
[18:48] <theadmin> kikitheman: Eh... sudo update-grub # I suppose.
[18:48] <cosmic> owenll:  W: Failed to fetch http://ppa.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/trinity/trinity-v3.5.13/ubuntu/dists/oneiric/main/binary-i386/Packages  404  file does not exist
[18:48] <cosmic> E: Some index files failed to download. They have been ignored, or old ones used instead.
[18:48] <cosmic> ???
[18:48] <SunTsu> cosmic: isn't pasting stuff into a single channel more than enough?
[18:48] <kikitheman> @theadmin , I type that into terminal and then it updates the bootloader ? I don't want to have to reinstall both OS's ...
[18:49] <theadmin> kikitheman: Yeah, that should do what you said it should do :P
[18:49] <theadmin> If no, see the link ubottu will give you in a sec...
[18:49] <theadmin> !restoregrub | kikitheman
[18:49] <folsto> Hi, I did dist-upgrade. Is there a log file od this process somewhere?
[18:49] <cosmic> ok
[18:50] <owenll> cosmic have you followed the instructions here http://www.trinitydesktop.org/installation.php#ubuntu and added the ppa to your sources list?
[18:52] <cosmic> owenll: yes but I can not access or do not see it
[18:52] <rcmaehl> I recently bought a TV Tuner card for my TV. What packages will I need to install to use this card?
[18:53] <pp7> rcmaehl: make? model?
[18:53] <TML> jaunty is no longer listed at http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/ - anyone know where I can find a repo that has it?
[18:53] <mintux> how can I downgrade php 5.3 to php 5.2 ?
[18:53] <luist> how can i run gpg --sign without password
[18:53] <xangua> 404  file does not exist - that means there are no packages for oneiric cosmic
[18:54] <rcmaehl> :\
[18:54] <rcmaehl> Session died
[18:54] <TML> mintux: Downgrade your ubuntu to an earlier release (ugh), or look for a PPA that provides php 5.2 for your release?
[18:54] <rcmaehl> so what packages do I need to install to use my tv tuner card?
[18:54] <pp7> rcmaehl: make? model?
[18:54] <SunTsu> luist: use gpg-agent or get rid of your secret key's password - although I wouldn't recommend the latter
[18:54] <cosmic> xangua:  And where are
[18:54] <escott> rcmaehl, what do you mean by use? have you checked video4linux to see if it is supported model?
[18:54] <xangua> cosmic: where are what¿¿
[18:55] <rcmaehl> 03:09.0 Multimedia controller: Philips Semiconductors SAA7130 Video Broadcast Decoder (rev 01)
[18:55] <rcmaehl> ^ Info from lspci
[18:55] <Pici> TML: Jaunty is no-longer supported, but if you really need to see the repos, they are available at http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/
[18:55] <cosmic> xangua:  help me  ... Why can not I install trinity-desktop
[18:56] <schmichael> owenll: hm, disabling the ppa didn't help. i'm still getting: http://paste.pocoo.org/show/526525/ during the "Setting new software channels" step
[18:56] <rib0f1avin> i cant accese archive.ubuntu.com is it down ??
[18:56] <TML> Pici: Thanks - I have a very old archive of a machine I've brought up, I just need to see how all these pieces are "supposed" to fit together so I can replace it with a natty
[18:56] <pp7> rib0f1avin: nope
[18:56] <xangua> cosmic: like i said, again, there are no packages for oneirc and i don't think you get kde3 support on official ubuntu channels
[18:56] <luist> SunTsu, how do i use a gpg-agent? i saw that on the man page but couldnt manage to work
[18:57] <rib0f1avin> well i cant update... it says failed to fetch
[18:57] <Pici> cosmic: It looks pretty obvious that their mirror is having issues.
[18:57] <rib0f1avin> so any help ?
[18:57] <Pici> !details | rib0f1avin
[18:57] <schmichael> owenll: ugh, and the update manager does weird things to my sources.list when rolling back
[18:58] <TML> rib0f1avin: http://www.isup.me/archive.ubuntu.com
[18:58] <rib0f1avin> i cant accese archive.ubuntu.com from my browser and from the terminal...im running ubuntu 11.10 xfce
[18:58] <babalu> what is the right way to install the abode flash plugin on kubuntu please?
[18:58] <TML> rib0f1avin: http://www.isup.me/archive.ubuntu.com
[18:59] <pp7> rib0f1avin: i can access it fine
[18:59] <Pici> rib0f1avin: Are you behind a firewall?
[18:59] <owenll> schmichael: sorry it didn't work - hope someone has the answer
[18:59] <Pici> rib0f1avin: er.. I mean a proxy.
[18:59] <pp7> rib0f1avin: It's just you. http://archive.ubuntu.com is up.
[18:59] <rcmaehl> escott: where do I check at?
[18:59] <rib0f1avin> no i dont think so
[18:59] <schmichael> owenll: np, thanks for the help
[18:59] <rib0f1avin> yea it says its just u >_> wierd
[18:59] <cosmic> Pici:  xangua  ...when you open you .. http://mirror.ets.kth.se/trinity/releases/3.5.13/
[18:59] <SunTsu> luist: just run it, or something like seahorse, it should cache your gpg-passphrase
[18:59] <Pici> cosmic: 404
[19:00] <cosmic> ok
[19:00] <Pici> rib0f1avin: What address does: dig archive.ubuntu.coom   return?
[19:00] <rib0f1avin> i cant install any package
[19:00] <cosmic> Pici:
[19:00] <cosmic> ok
[19:00] <rib0f1avin> nothing its still loading
[19:00] <rib0f1avin> for the past 20 mins
[19:00] <babalu> what's the package to install for the adobe flash plugin?
[19:01] <rib0f1avin> so any sugestions?
[19:02] <Pici> rib0f1avin: Can you get to a terminal and try: dig archive.ubuntu.com  ?
[19:02] <iceroot> babalu: adobe-flashplugin
[19:02] <babalu> iceroot: package not ofund
[19:02] <babalu> not found*
[19:02] <iceroot> babalu: flashplugin-downloader
[19:02] <rib0f1avin> yeai tried
[19:02] <wildc4rd> good evening all!
[19:02] <Pici> rib0f1avin: and?
[19:03] <rib0f1avin> ;; ANSWER SECTION:
[19:03] <rib0f1avin> archive.ubuntu.com.	321	IN	A	91.189.92.182
[19:03] <rib0f1avin> archive.ubuntu.com.	321	IN	A	91.189.92.181
[19:03] <rib0f1avin> archive.ubuntu.com.	321	IN	A	91.189.92.180
[19:03] <rib0f1avin> archive.ubuntu.com.	321	IN	A	91.189.92.179
[19:03] <FloodBot1> rib0f1avin: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:03] <babalu> iceroot: downloader or installer?
[19:03] <iceroot> !info flashplugin-downloader
[19:03] <iceroot> !info flashplugin-installer
[19:04] <babalu> what's the difference?
[19:04] <iceroot> babalu: hm dont know what is the correct one
[19:04] <Pici> rib0f1avin: Can you ping archive.ubuntu.com ?
[19:04] <melle> Hi all, when I issue 'sudo service mysql remove' I get the error: "The script you are attempting to invoke has been converted to an Upstart job, but remove is not supported for Upstart jobs.". update-rc.d doesn't work either... Any suggestions?
[19:04] <iceroot> !flash | babalu
[19:04] <rib0f1avin> yes
[19:04] <rib0f1avin> ping is working
[19:05] <Pici> rib0f1avin: Just not http?
[19:05] <rib0f1avin> what?
[19:05] <Pici> rib0f1avin: Just browser and apt can't see it?
[19:06] <rib0f1avin> yes
[19:06] <rib0f1avin> exactly
[19:06] <TML> Pici: Worked, package installed, figured out what I needed, and jaunty image re-consigned to the dustbin. Thanks for your help.
[19:06] <Pici> TML: Sure. no problem :)
[19:06] <selim> tackos tu est la sait selim
[19:06] <Pici> rib0f1avin: Thats odd.  Can you browse any other websites?
[19:06] <rib0f1avin> just my browser and apt cant accese archive.ubuntu
[19:06] <luist> SunTsu, just --use-agent ?
[19:07] <rib0f1avin> yep all other sites are working fine
[19:07] <TML> rib0f1avin: Can you browse to the URL I gave you?
[19:07] <SunTsu> luist: yeah, or put that into your config file
[19:07] <escott> rcmaehl, http://linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/Main_Page
[19:07] <rib0f1avin> isupme ?
[19:07] <genii-around> !fr | selim
[19:08] <cdj> oh god the touchpad in xubuntu is working horribly
[19:08] <rib0f1avin> this is really wierd
[19:08] <luist> SunTsu, config file? when using --use-agent, the second time it says: gpg: gpg-agent is not available in this session then asks for passphrase again :D
[19:08] <TML> rib0f1avin: Yeah, but don't worry about it - if you say you can browse other sites, it answers the same underlying question.
[19:09] <rib0f1avin> so should i just wait ?
[19:09] <SunTsu> luist: make sure something like it is run with your window manager session
[19:09] <babalu> how to know the version of my ubuntu distribution?
[19:09] <TML> babalu: lsb_release -a
[19:09] <TML> rib0f1avin: I doubt "just wait" is going to fix anything for you.
[19:10] <SunTsu> luist: gpg-agent or seahorse or ... I think there's lot of stuff that caches gpg passphrases lately
[19:10] <rib0f1avin> well im running out of ideas
[19:11] <T3RMi3> Hi, What's the default user on 11.10 live cd ?
[19:11] <theadmin> T3RMi3: "ubuntu"
[19:11] <T3RMi3> and pass?
[19:11] <theadmin> T3RMi3: Not set
[19:11] <rib0f1avin> is this a bug?
[19:11] <babalu> TML: how to upgrade from 10.10 to 11.10 ?
[19:11] <T3RMi3> xm. i tried that but nothing
[19:12] <TML> babalu: do-release-upgrade
[19:12] <escott> babalu, you have to go through 11.04
[19:12] <luist> SunTsu, installed gnupg-agent... still gives the same error.. what could i be missing?
[19:12] <TML> babalu: If you're more used to using Ubuntu as a desktop OS, there's probably a GUI complement to that
[19:12] <theadmin> T3RMi3: Damaged disc/iso often render such results. I suggest you download the ISO via torrents (and stay away from ktorrent, it does funny stuff), make sure the disc burns at a low speed and is verified after burn.
[19:13] <babalu> TML: command line is fine
[19:13] <squidly> 9/wib
[19:13] <SunTsu> luist: the way it works ;) First of all it needs to be runnung. Secondly it needs to set environment variables - therefor you either need to set them yourself or run it in your X session so those variables are available to every sub process
[19:14] <SunTsu> running even
[19:16] <rib0f1avin> come on guys any help..
[19:16] <cdj> .
[19:16] <cdj> whoops
[19:17] <TML> rib0f1avin: I have no idea what to tell you - something is screwy with your network environment
[19:17] <TML> rib0f1avin: What browser are you using?
[19:17] <rib0f1avin> i dont think so
[19:17] <rib0f1avin> firefox
[19:17] <pyghassen> hello
[19:17] <rib0f1avin> my network is fine
[19:17] <pyghassen> # m h  dom mon dow   command
[19:17] <pyghassen> */1 *  *   *   *     /home/ghassen/csv_job.py >> out.log
[19:17] <rib0f1avin> every other site works
[19:18] <pyghassen> This cronjob is working in one machine and doesn't in another!!!
[19:18] <pyghassen> how to know what's wrong with this  cronjob
[19:18] <TML> rib0f1avin: And archive.ubuntu.com works for everyone except you
[19:19] <TML> rib0f1avin: So it's definitely something local to your machine...
[19:19] <pyghassen> any debugging method recommended?
[19:19] <rib0f1avin> yes
[19:19] <TML> rib0f1avin: Do you nave netcat installed?
[19:19] <rib0f1avin> so any settings to change that?
[19:19] <yeats>  /lastlog rib0f1avin
[19:19] <Tux> pyghassen, run the Python script manually
[19:19] <rib0f1avin> yes
[19:20] <TML> rib0f1avin: echo "HEAD / HTTP/1.0" | nc archive.ubuntu.com 80
[19:20] <yezariaely> how can I set the accesspermissions for ntfs/fat partitions (auto)mounted in nautilus?
[19:20] <pyghassen> Tux: it works fine, and the same cronjob works perfectly  in other ubuntu machine
[19:20] <oneliner> how can i specify the nomodeset option in usb boot?
[19:21] <Tux> pyghassen, is anything in the out.log?
[19:21] <rib0f1avin> hmm nothing
[19:21] <Tux> oneliner, Tab key
[19:21] <Tux> afaik
[19:21] <pyghassen> Tux: it hasn't been created at all, the script never ran?
[19:21] <Tux> Hmm...
[19:22] <Tux> Is crond running?
[19:22] <rib0f1avin> nope
[19:22] <rib0f1avin> nothing
[19:22] <rib0f1avin> damn
[19:22] <Tux> You have to start the cron daemon before cronjobs will work. :)
[19:22] <trojanking> please i need help how can i make program in c++ on ubuntu
[19:22] <Tux> PEBKAC error, let's move on
[19:23] <pyghassen> ps -axu | grep crond
[19:23] <pyghassen> nop
[19:23] <theadmin> trojanking: You need a compiler, such as g++
[19:23] <rib0f1avin> yo TML any other ideas??
[19:23] <pyghassen> how to do so Tux?
[19:23] <trojanking> theadmin how do i get it
[19:23] <trojanking> ?
[19:23] <Pici> !compile
[19:23] <theadmin> trojanking: You install it like usual... sudo apt-get install g++
[19:24] <oneliner> boot from usb;fail , am getting stuck at "EH complete", any hints?
[19:24] <Tux> pyghassen, I had the wrong process
[19:24] <oneliner> nomedeset, fail, same result
[19:24] <Tux> look for cron
[19:25] <trojanking> ok
[19:25] <trojanking> theadmin thanks after that how can i find the application out?
[19:25] <kernelpanicker> I have my audio volume settings maxed on all gui interfaces on ubuntu 11.10, but audio on my dell laptop is still barely audible... any suggestions?
[19:25] <trojanking> or launch it out to start coding
[19:25] <phil_phys> I can't connect to internet with usb key
[19:26] <phil_phys> Could you help me??
[19:26] <phil_phys> How can i do?
[19:26] <Tux> kernelpanicker, have you checked alsamixer
[19:26] <escott> yezariaely, how do you want to set them
[19:26] <trojanking> please how do i launch g++ in ubuntu so i can start coding ... am a newbie using linux first time
[19:27] <pyghassen> Tux thanks man, I solve it :=)
[19:27] <kernelpanicker> Tux: nope... sudo apt-get install alsamixer?
[19:27] <Tux> trojanking, you need the Terminal
[19:27] <Tux> kernelpanicker, it's alsa-utils
[19:27] <trojanking> Tux, and then?
[19:27] <edbian> trojanking, g++ <name_of_file>.cpp
[19:28] <phil_phys> could you help me?
[19:28] <Tux> It isn't peasy easy but it'll get you started.
[19:28] <Tux> phil_phys, we didn't forget you
[19:29] <phil_phys> Tux: How can i use modem usb on ubuntu 11.10?
[19:30] <Tux> phil_phys, paste the output of lsusb on http://pastebin.com
[19:31] <phil_phys> Tux: http://ideone.com/qDaUw
[19:31] <oneliner> sweet, cant boot from disk nor usb :D
[19:32] <oneliner> but i could swear i had a working install just about now
[19:34] <trojanking> i have a source code a program designed on windows and it works pretty well designed with c++ can make i a deb file and run it without using wine? (Say its a browser i made)
[19:35] <Tux> phil_phys, I think you have a WinModem of some sort
[19:35] <trojanking> i designed .exe app for windows and it works pretty well designed with c++ can i make it a .deb file and run it without using wine? (Say its a browser i made)
[19:35] <SunTsu> !patience trojanking
[19:36] <SunTsu> !patience | trojanking
[19:36] <Tux> trojanking, nope. Windows != Linux
[19:36] <Tux> You would need to rewrite the application in GTK+, Qt or some other framework
[19:36] <edbian> trojanking, no
[19:37] <edbian> trojanking, you cannot run .exe's on linux without wine
[19:37] <trojanking> Tux so as c++  programmer i cant program for linux?
[19:37] <phil_phys> Tux: It works on windows but it doesn't work on ubuntu
[19:37] <edbian> trojanking, you can write c++ for linux
[19:37] <edbian> trojanking, linux the kernel is written in c
[19:37] <SunTsu> trojanking: you can try to write it portable, but that's lots of work
[19:37] <phil_phys> Tux: How can I do??
[19:37] <edbian> trojanking, portable meaning it works on both linux or windows
[19:38] <trojanking> edbian i mean just copy the source code and add the !user /bin/deb bla bla bla and recompile
[19:38] <Tux> trojanking, you can write in c++ on linux, just you need to learn a gui framework and not use the windows api
[19:38] <edbian> trojanking, It does not work that way.  To write the GUI for the browser you almost definitely used windows specific API stuff
[19:38] <Tux> trojanking, not
[19:38] <Pici> trojanking: Its really not on-topic for *this* channel.  Maybe ##c++ would have some tips for cross-platform compiling.
[19:38] <edbian> trojanking, if you write a CLI app it likely works on both.  (also c does not have a #!)
[19:38] <Tux> !patience | phil_phys
[19:39] <edbian> trojanking, Pici ##c++ will get annoyed at these questions quickly
[19:39] <edbian> trojanking, google c++ programming linux and start reading
[19:39] <Pici> edbian: They're not on-topic for #ubuntu either though.  (sorry I'm not in ##c++)  Maybe ##programming ?
[19:39] <trojanking> lol thanks guys , for the help :D
[19:39] <Tux> phil_phys, can you try buying a router that supports dsl? then you need to connect via ethernet
[19:39] <SunTsu> trojanking: as a c++ programmer you should know what's windows specific, now imagine that you need to reproduce using gui toolkits for linux
[19:40] <phil_phys> In my room there isn't adsl
[19:40] <phil_phys> there isn't telephone
[19:40] <edbian> trojanking, sure
[19:41] <trojanking> java the way to go
[19:41] <edbian> Pici, IDK what channel is best.  I just mentioned ##c++ would get annoyed as warning to him
[19:41] <edbian> trojanking, java is cross platform
[19:42] <trojanking> the reason i asked is bcos i am trying to find a way to strictly stay with linux for at least 2yrs if not forever
[19:42] <trojanking> am just 24hrs using linux -- so am trying to get use to it
[19:43] <edbian> trojanking, linux is the best.  Why do you need to write c++ windows gui apps?
[19:43] <edbian> trojanking, If you want to stick with linux, just don't write those?  Use c++ and gtk+ or c++ and qt or java or ...
[19:43] <edbian> the list goes on
[19:43] <captainkwel> x
[19:44] <trojanking> edbian, i get u, but if i am programming for company i need program for windows
[19:44] <luist> SunTsu, ok i started the gpg but it seems that the env variables arent set... should i restart the machine or configure them myself?
[19:45] <trojanking> i am trying to setup IT company and my staffs wud do the programming work too
[19:45] <edbian> trojanking, Then my advice: get a windows machine and develop on it
[19:45] <SunTsu> luist: I'd set them yourself for testing, and restart your X session as soon as you need to run it seriously
[19:45] <edbian> trojanking, You can write windows code (and cross compile for window) on linux but you could only run it with wine and wine is not exactly the same as windows.
[19:45] <trojanking> edbian, ok i just like linux been that its not common, other ppl respect u that u use it
[19:45] <SunTsu> trojanking: or setup vbox with a windows vm
[19:46] <luist> SunTsu, ok.. i just dont have any idea on how to set them :)
[19:46] <SunTsu> luist: running gpg-agent should have given you shell commands that you just need to paste into that shell
[19:46] <oneliner> how can i complete purge the xorg server and re install it?
[19:47] <edbian> trojanking, it's the best, use it
[19:47] <Socket-> Hey guys. Im running ubuntu 11.10, and if i do sudo echo > /etc/motd and then login, it recreates the contents of motd with the ubuntu version welcome screen.  how do i force it to stay blank
[19:47] <luist> SunTsu, just that: http://pastie.org/3080904
[19:47] <trojanking> edbian still wondering why they say linux is the best :) just curious
[19:48] <edbian> trojanking, because it gives you more control of the system
[19:48] <edbian> trojanking, it also gives you more knowledge about the system if you're willing to learn
[19:48] <trojanking> edbian true
[19:49] <trojanking> edbian possible for private chat?
[19:49] <SmartTowel> Anyone using MySql workbench on U11.11?
[19:49] <SunTsu> luist: just look at gpg-agents' man page, it has examples how to do things
[19:49] <SmartTowel> mine hasn't worked since upgrade.
[19:49] <SmartTowel> just stuck on that stupid splash screen/
[19:50] <hotdogfc> hey!
[19:50] <hotdogfc> fuckers!
[19:51] <hotdogfc> wtf
[19:51] <edbian> !ops | hotdogfc
[19:51] <edbian> oops
[19:51] <edbian> haha
[19:51] <edbian> whatev
[19:51] <FloodBot1> edbian: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:51] <edbian> quite you...
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[19:51] <SmartTowel> ur so cool
[19:52] <dougl> yes very cool I am so impressed
[19:52] <edbian> Pici, thanks
[19:52] <pp7> hotdogfc: something bothering u? :P
[19:52] <edbian> pp7, he quit
[19:52] <pp7> k
[19:53] <edbian> oh, he came back!
[19:53] <dougl> he is just bored
[19:53] <dougl> err or she
[19:53] <SunTsu> ignore it
[19:53] <oCean> please, let's move on
[19:53]  * dougl is moving on
[19:53] <kid_icarus> anyone use meld for diffing?  I just discovered it and I love it!
[19:54] <dougl> kid_icarus, never even heard of it - diffing = patching?
[19:54] <SmartTowel> yea i have.
[19:55] <kid_icarus> dougl, it's like comparing/merging two different files
[19:55] <SmartTowel> does it come built in with the diff coloring?
[19:55] <kid_icarus> good for revisions
[19:55] <dougl> kid_icarus, cool - thanks
[19:55] <SmartTowel> if i remember correctly, i had to edit a config.
[19:55] <SmartTowel> commandlinefu.com always has useful stuff.
[19:55] <oneliner> great got back myconsole boot
[19:56] <blocky> how do I set the default session for autologin?
[19:56] <oneliner> now if i want to compile stuff and play around with video codecs, should i get aditional packages related to xorg?
[19:56] <kid_icarus> blocky, add 'exec windowmanager' in ~/.xinitrc
[19:56] <ericP> an upgrade from 11.04 to 11.10 a while ago left me unable to detect displays to my laptop
[19:57] <SmartTowel> any one using mysql workbench on ubuntu?
[19:57] <ericP> i've tried both nvidia drivers ("version current" and "post-release updates" (whatever that is))
[19:57] <SmartTowel> haven't had it working since i upgraded to 11.10.  i think i said 11.11 last time lol
[19:58] <dummy213> ah thank god
[19:58] <dummy213> i had sooo many issues with win
[19:58] <dummy213> i just formatted the entire thing and slapped backtrack on it
[19:58] <dummy213> feelsgoodman.jpg
[19:58] <oneliner> ericP: tried the nvidia 290 series drivers? can get them from the nvidia site
[19:59] <ssfdre38> when i try and do anything sudo i get sudo: must be setuid root
[19:59] <oCean> dummy213: just so you know, this is ubuntu support, not backtrack (that's #backtrack-linux channel)
[19:59] <kid_icarus> SmartTowel, it looks pretty interesting but I've never used it
[19:59] <dummy213> oCean: backtrack is practically ubuntu but yeah, thanks for telling me
[19:59] <kid_icarus> ssfdre38, have you added your username to /etc/sudoers?
[19:59] <oCean> dummy213: yes, but it's one of the ubuntu derivatives that are not supported or on topic in this channel
[20:00] <dummy213> ah
[20:00] <dummy213> sorry
[20:00] <SmartTowel> i can commandline the sql fine.  but sometimes a (can't believe im gonna say it ) a GUI is better.
[20:00] <ssfdre38> i have as its been added since install and now my root terminal isnt working
[20:02] <ericP> oneliner, will try -- tx
[20:02] <ericP> one more question. i tried xfce (
[20:03] <ericP> ) and it's visibly slow to update the display
[20:06] <ShamWOW_> SmartTowel: I'm more absorbent than you are.
[20:06] <SmartTowel> now does that 'WOW' stand for World of Warcraft or.....
[20:06] <ShamWOW_> yes, the game is a sham
[20:07] <ShamWOW_> after all that time, i figured out that there was no possible way to translate my firestorm spell to any useful real-world application
[20:07] <SmartTowel> <slow clap> welcome to the Guild of Terry Cloth
[20:07] <ShamWOW_> that old fart? psh...
[20:08] <oCean> let's stay on topic please
[20:08] <SmartTowel> sorry.  no need to make a cean
[20:08] <lucasoman> sorry to interrupt :)
[20:15] <motahareh_> jdlkjflakfjlajflkajdflkajfddddddhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
[20:17] <lucasoman> motahareh_: in case you didn't notice, you were typing into IRC, not into vim..
[20:17] <lucasoman> so...
[20:17] <lucasoman> FYI
[20:17] <hamed> i faced a problem in wifi my friend solve it but he make aproblem in lan internet
[20:17] <bhk0> Moin. If I open bash there always appears a update notification. How can I remove it (or where is the skript??)?
[20:18] <hamed> hi any one here ?
[20:18] <lucasoman> bhk0: please don't IRC as root
[20:18] <aeon-ltd> hamed: yes
[20:18] <bhk0> ups...
[20:18] <hamed>  i faced a problem in wifi my friend solve it but he make aproblem in lan internet dell inspiron 6400
[20:19] <hamed> ubuntu 11.10
[20:20] <borillion> Im getting weird stuff happening with my eclipse editor http://imagebin.org/190563
[20:20] <trism> bhk0: /etc/update-motd.d/90-updates-available I believe (if I understand you correctly)
[20:22] <owenll> hamed: what is the problem? have you looked at network manager in system settings?
[20:23] <petri> Hello
[20:23] <petri> onko turusta porukkaa
[20:24] <OerHeks> petri, english please
[20:24] <petri> okey ,sorry
[20:25] <petri> good night :)
[20:26] <hamed> ownel i tried to open network in system setting
[20:27] <hamed> i faced wireless and network proxy
[20:27] <hamed> but i didn't find any thing else
[20:27] <owenll> hamed: no wired option?
[20:27] <hamed> \no
[20:28] <dmtarmey> he can anyone help me eliminate this error W: GPG error: http://ppa.launchpad.net oneiric Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 2E3912DEB33004BC
[20:29] <lucas_> Does anyone one know why this maybe occurring?  http://paste.ubuntu.com/784872/
[20:30] <trism> dmtarmey: how did you add the ppa? you should add it with: add-apt-repository so that the keys are retrieved
[20:31] <dmtarmey> in terminal
[20:31] <magnus__> hello! I am trying to install Wine in the Ubuntu terminal, and get a EULA user agreement of some kind. At the end of this agreement is an Ok. How do I "Press" this ok in the terminal? Enter or O or Y does not work
[20:31] <lucas_> I followed this guys tutorial http://www.dctrwatson.com/2010/09/installing-postgresql-9-0-on-ubuntu-10-04/
[20:31] <bullgard4> lucas_: The reason is clearly stated in the last line: "dependency problems."
[20:32] <Pici> magnus__: press tab until the OK hilights then press enter
[20:33] <owenll> hamed have you got enable networking ticked in the drop down menu of the wired connection icon?
[20:33] <lucas_> Thanks bullgard4 I'll look into that. Unfamiliar with Ubuntu and dependencies.
[20:33] <magnus__> Pici: Thank you very much :)
[20:33] <hamed> i have no wired connection icon
[20:34] <trism> dmtarmey: which ppa did you add?
[20:35] <owenll> hamed: ok on the network icon on the top bar of your screen
[20:35] <mehdi> hello
[20:35] <mehdi> i created an ubuntu fork
[20:35] <mehdi> it s better than ubuntu
[20:36] <mehdi> do you want to try it?
[20:36] <jbeitler> mehdi how much better?
[20:36] <bean> mehdi: This is for support, not advertising.
[20:38] <Somelauw> What is the thing I need if I want vmware? Just vm or vm-view-open-client?
[20:38] <dmtarmey_> trism in terminal how can i correct this pls
[20:38] <Somelauw> I want to install an OS in an OS.
[20:38] <mehdi> jbeitler, it was coded by chuck norris
[20:39] <bean> Somelauw: I'd recomment virtualbox
[20:39] <Somelauw> bean: Okay, I don't know the difference between those all, really?
[20:39] <guntbert> mehdi: please keep your contributions to support
[20:39] <troulouliou_dev> hi after 6 years with Debian witout reinstalling it , i m switching to Ubuntu 64 bits , i can not find a way to rnctypt the root partition (cryptsetup-luks + lvm2) in desktop installer
[20:39] <troulouliou_dev> is there some kind of advanced/expert mode ?
[20:39] <mehdi> guntbert, who is support?
[20:39] <trism> dmtarmey_: which ppa did you add?
[20:40] <Odd-rationale> troulouliou_dev: you have to use the alternative install cd
[20:40] <Somelauw> virtualbox-ose-minimal or whhich one do I need? There are like 10 versions of it!
[20:40] <Jordan_U> !alternate | troulouliou_dev
[20:40] <bean> mehdi: he means, only talk about support here, not your subtle attempts at trolling.
[20:40] <guntbert> mehdi: this channel is only for help/support for ubuntu, if you just want to chat join #ubuntu-offtopic please
[20:41] <mehdi> bean, it's okay i will troll in another channel
[20:41] <owenll> subtle?
[20:41] <bean> Somelauw: i was being sarcastic, owenll .
[20:41] <bean> Somelauw: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VirtualBox/Installation
[20:41] <bean> Somelauw: ignore my first message there.
[20:43] <Somelauw> huh, I don't understand
[20:43] <bean> Somelauw: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VirtualBox/Installation
[20:44] <bean> is all you need to read, about virtualbox
[20:45] <troulouliou_dev> hi does anybody knwo here how to encrypt root partition at install ?
[20:45] <Humbedooh> your home folder? or eeeverything?
[20:46] <troulouliou_dev> Humbedooh: everything
[20:47] <troulouliou_dev> i m installing ubuntu for first tim but in debiabn it is a default option
[20:47] <Humbedooh> that seems like going a little overboard :>
[20:47] <dmtarmey_> trism i found a y ppa admin tool and sorted it out cheers
[20:47] <Humbedooh> Ubuntu has the option to encrypt your personal stuff at install
[20:47] <Humbedooh> the rest of the system shouldn't really need any encryption
[20:48] <troulouliou_dev> Humbedooh i was using it like this for 6 years , some kind of habit
[20:48] <Jordan_U> troulouliou_dev: Have you seen the multiple people who have pointed you toward the alternate install CD?
[20:49] <Jordan_U> troulouliou_dev: The alternate install CD uses debian-imstaller.
[20:49] <troulouliou_dev> Jordan_U ha just saw it , thanks
[20:49] <Jordan_U> troulouliou_dev: You're welcome.
[20:52] <vouth> Whenever I run glxinfo I am unexpectedly logged out. What is happening here??!
[20:52] <deggie> heya
[20:52] <deggie> a have problem with booting from USB
[20:53] <vouth> !ask | deggie
[20:54] <deggie> I get an error with mounting my usb device: gives mounting aufs on /root failed: no space left on device, but I have 4 gig left
[20:54] <deggie> and the install is 4 gig, so it should be sufficient
[20:55] <guntbert> deggie: !pastebin the output of    df -h   please
[20:55] <deggie> yeah, it's on my other laptop, can't copy paste it but here it is :  stdir: error 0  mount: mounting aufs on /root failed: No space left on device <enter> aufs mount failed
[20:56] <evon> Does ubuntu have any trouble being installed on a SSD drive?
[20:56] <wirc_stan> cw=Z]Pr;W
[20:56] <Humbedooh> yes, it can go bad :>
[20:57] <wirc_stan> cw=Z]SCNXPhMxSlNwQ*H=
[20:57] <wirc_stan> cw=Z]PhO7PkO8SbO+P~CB
[20:57] <wirc_stan> cw=Z]N_PXNmPKO!T*O"PrE7
[20:57] <wirc_stan> cw=Z]MhR[NlPhO!S'O$PhGA
[20:57] <wirc_stan> cw=Z]=PRj
[20:57] <wirc_stan> cw=Z]P1NwRPNlP^O"P^OKSXF+
[20:57] <FloodBot1> wirc_stan: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:57] <guntbert> wirc_stan: stop
[20:57] <wirc_stan> cw=Z]O{SDNxRpO%PjNvP^ES
[20:57] <evon> humberdooh, you talkin to me?
[20:57] <Humbedooh> yup
[20:57] <evon> humbedooh, you talkin to me?
[20:57] <deggie> but /dev/sdb1 til has enough space left, only 28 % usage
[20:57] <evon> humbedooh, what kind of bad things?
[20:57] <wirc_stan> cw=Z]LASBNvPiNvS$O"PsIX
[20:57] <wirc_stan> cw=Z]BqS/O/S2O'
[20:57] <wirc_stan> cw=Z]PcO'T!@C
[20:58] <Humbedooh> well you can install it 20 times and it won't work on some computers
[20:58] <Humbedooh> at least if you install via USB
[20:58] <deggie> well, it used to work
[20:58] <evon> humbedooh, I just bought an ssd for my desktop so I will be using a cd
[20:58] <Humbedooh> some BIOS' will switch around the device names if you use an USB drive for installing
[20:58] <deggie> but after 3 times or so it stopped working
[20:59] <ted_> I found a printer driver a while back that worked for a kodak esp 3 AIO printer  and mafter a hard drive crash I  can't find it  ............anyone know where to get a kodak printer driver?
[20:59] <Humbedooh> should be no problem with a cd
[21:00] <evon> humbedooh, ok i will test it out
[21:00] <phong_> hi
[21:00] <Humbedooh> I have two computers running ubu on ssd at least :>
[21:00] <phong_> happy new you
[21:00] <evildaemon> Hello
[21:00] <troulouliou_dev> IS there a good link in ubuntu forum or anybody else that explain how 64 bits ubuntu works and if it is possible to run 3é bits application (lib64 .....)
[21:00] <troulouliou_dev> i hope SystemLoL64 do not existsz :)
[21:00] <Humbedooh> 64 bit means 64 bit :<
[21:01] <evildaemon> My wireless won't connect to other networks, but will broadcast.
[21:01] <evildaemon> And the problem isn't my wifi card or adapter.
[21:01] <evildaemon> (AND YES I tried removing the driver!)
[21:02] <Humbedooh> dmesg is your friend? :>
[21:02] <vouth> Whenever I run glxinfo I am unexpectedly logged out. What is happening here??!
[21:02] <evildaemon> dmesg?
[21:02] <troulouliou_dev> Humbedooh what is /Lib64 vs /Lib for ?
[21:02] <jafa> hi guys, new install of Ubuntu at a remote location - forgot to enable VNC server in the GUI before I left... can this be enabled from a shell?
[21:02] <Humbedooh> compatibility?
[21:02] <Humbedooh> they are the same on x86_64
[21:02] <jafa> (GUI is logged in as me - same user account as via ssh)
[21:02] <babalu> hi guys i'm having an error on kubuntu when trying to upgrade from 10.10 to 11.04 :( http://i.imgur.com/DEDWI.png
[21:03] <Humbedooh> from a compiler POV, having /lib64 makes sense
[21:03] <evildaemon> You could tunnel X over SSH?
[21:03] <Humbedooh> or rather, a linker
[21:03] <troulouliou_dev> Humbedooh but how does native 32 birs executilon works ?
[21:04] <troulouliou_dev> some trick arouund ld ?
[21:04] <Humbedooh> no clue :>
[21:05] <troulouliou_dev> ha ok thanks :)
[21:05] <Humbedooh> but afaik, 32 bit cannot run on 64 bit ubuntu
[21:05] <guntbert> babalu: if you don't get any answers here ask in #kubuntu
[21:05] <Humbedooh> unless you use some form of virtualization
[21:06] <babalu> guntbert: i can't post in kubuntu for some reason "[22:02] == Cannot send to channel: #kubuntu" :/
[21:06] <evildaemon> Well, dmesg gave me nothing.
[21:06] <Humbedooh> or you could install a copy of 32 bit ubuntu into a different folder and do a chroot?
[21:06] <evildaemon> So it's not a hardware issue.
[21:07] <guntbert> babalu: in that case you should join #ubuntu-ops to resolve that channel issue
[21:07] <babalu> guntbert: thanks
[21:07] <adrian_berg> I'm trying to change the gtk-paste icon
[21:08] <adrian_berg> I found this: http://askubuntu.com/questions/39336/how-can-i-change-which-icon-an-applet-uses
[21:08] <adrian_berg> It isn't helpful
[21:08] <guntbert> babalu: Good luck :-)
[21:08] <adrian_berg> I've tried doing what it says, but diodon continues to use that horrible looking default icon
[21:08] <adrian_berg> Hoping someone in here might help
[21:08] <babalu> guntbert: thanks :p
[21:14] <bespals> ыва
[21:14] <bespals> ололо даешь иксэфсе
[21:14] <idsme> good evening
[21:15] <guntbert> idsme:  Do you have an ubuntu support question?
[21:15] <idsme> i want install sshmenu on ubuntu 11.10 (ubuntu classic) only i get some problems, anyone that can help me?!
[21:16] <adrian_berg> Going crazy
[21:16] <idsme> :guntbert yes i have
[21:16] <adrian_berg> Icon=/usr/share/icons/ubuntu-mono-dark/actions/24/gtk-paste.svg
[21:16] <spinall> hello
[21:16] <adrian_berg> That's in diodon.desktop
[21:17] <meerkats> where can I download libavcodec.so.52 for ubuntu 11.10 32 bits?
[21:17] <spinall> help me please i have 3 Screen and 2 gpu......- -(NO sli)
[21:17] <adrian_berg> I copied /usr/share/Faenza/actions/scalable to /usr/share/icons/ubuntu-mono-dark/actions/24/
[21:17] <WFeather> trying to get i7z installed on an SR-2 anyone here able to give me a hand ?
[21:17] <meerkats> or, what library contains this particular one?
[21:17] <adrian_berg> /scalable/gtk-paste.svg to...
[21:19] <idsme> anyone experience with SSHmenu icw ubuntu 11.10 gnome classic
[21:19] <idsme> ?
[21:19] <dr_willis> !info libavcodec
[21:20] <dr_willis> !find  libavcodec.so
[21:20] <The0Racle> hey, I'm trying to set up an FTP server, but how do I allow remote computers to access it?  The IP is on a 192.168.1 subnet and I know that cannot be unique
[21:20] <spinall> help me please i have 3 Screen and 2 gpu......- -(NO sli)
[21:20] <meerkats> thx dr_willis
[21:21] <idsme> spinall, 2 screens? i will pay 10$ for one!
[21:21] <bean> The0Racle: you have to do port forwarding in your router.
[21:21] <guntbert> Info libavcodec52 | meerkats
[21:21] <guntbert> !info libavcodec52 | meerkats
[21:21] <The0Racle> but my router is still 192.168.1 subnet
[21:21] <Firestone> Anyone here familiar with the refresh-problem when using a VNC-server on Gnome? Maybe a solution to this? Think this became an issue after the first distribution with Unity as default.
[21:22] <The0Racle> bean: maybe I'm not understanding you, but since my router also is on the 192.168.1 subnet, port forwarding isn't going to change anything, right?
[21:22] <meerkats> oops
[21:22] <meerkats> crap, cant lib53 do the same as lib52?
[21:22] <EvilResistance> The0Racle:  where's the FTP sitting, remotely or locally?
[21:22] <The0Racle> locally
[21:22] <EvilResistance> and when i say locally i mean on your own net
[21:23] <The0Racle> yeah
[21:23] <EvilResistance> The0Racle:  and what are you trying to do with the FTP?
[21:23] <EvilResistance> make it internet-facing?
[21:23] <bean> The0Racle: yes, but if you forward the port you can access it on its public IP.
[21:23] <jden> what channle do i go to for discussion on videos,music, etc
[21:23] <The0Racle> EvilResistance: yes
[21:23] <The0Racle> bean: ok, I'll try that
[21:23] <xangua> !ot | jden
[21:23] <bean> jden: you can ask Alis as well "/msg alis help"
[21:24] <EvilResistance> The0Racle:  if you port-forward from the router to the system that has the FTP's 192.168.1.x address, then the router will take any requests on the internet-facing IP address and throw them to the FTP system/box
[21:24] <jden> yes i know that but this is the only populated channle i know and i cant search chanles (useing web irc client)
[21:24] <gridbag> id like to see a straight clone of the OSX desktop UI.  don't even bother being creative.
[21:24] <QuikNik> hey all, anybody have the problem where all torrent programs are locking up?  I thought it was just Transmission, but rtorrent and BitFlyer or something torrent app is also doing it.  Could something be wrong with my torrent libraries maybe?
[21:24] <EvilResistance> The0Racle:  then, if the port is open on that machine, and FTP is listening, it should operate correctly
[21:27] <yumbo> QuikNik, locking up how? Harddrive gets smashed, cpu gets smashed, or just a freeze without any resources getting hogged?
[21:27] <QuikNik> yumbo: CPU is getting smashed.. 90%+
[21:27] <QuikNik> application windows become unresponsive
[21:27] <QuikNik> or in the case of rtorrent, couldn't kill process
[21:28] <yumbo> QuikNik, maybe it's a particular torrent, have you tried stopping all torrents?
[21:28] <QuikNik> I think i've had this problem with other torrents as well but to be honest I can't remember.  I'll try just adding one other torrent
[21:28] <QuikNik> removing all others
[21:29] <EvilResistance> !enter | QuikNik
[21:29] <EvilResistance> QuikNik:  no need to be posting each thought on one line ;P
[21:29] <The0Racle> EvilResistance: thank you
[21:29] <The0Racle> bean: thank you
[21:29] <QuikNik> my bad
[21:29] <The0Racle> it works now
[21:29] <bullgard4> My Ubuntu 11.10 computer is playing a piece of music. How can I determine what program is playing what audio file? Is lsof helpful?
[21:30] <meerkats> is SVN like GIT?
[21:30] <yumbo> bullgard4, you can open "Sound" and go to the tab "Applications"
[21:30] <blz> meerkats, yes, but it's not distributed and it's the devil
[21:31] <blz> meerkats, if you have the choice, stick with either GIT or mercurial
[21:31] <bullgard4> yumbo: What so you mean by "Sound" here in GNOME Shell 3.2.1?
[21:31] <bullgard4> yumbo: What do you mean by "Sound" here in GNOME Shell 3.2.1?
[21:31] <meerkats> i dont have the choice, is standard 0.5.0 or svn, I need a library I cannot find to use 0.5.0
[21:32] <glad> hey i just installed ubuntu and i get "to run a command as administrator user root use sudo command . see man sudo_root for details" wtf do i do?
[21:32] <babalu> EvilResistance: The package 'update-manager-kde' is marked for removal but it's in the removal blacklist
[21:32] <blz> meerkats, could you rephrase that?  You're not making sense
[21:32] <yumbo> bullgard4, press the Windows key on your keyboard, search for "Sound" (it should appear under Settings)
[21:33] <user_> asteriks
[21:33] <yumbo> glad, open the Terminal, it is called "Terminal"
[21:33] <idsme> anyone can help me with SSHmenu in ubuntu 11.10 please
[21:34] <idsme> or anyone use another look a like sshmenu programm?
[21:34] <yumbo> glad, there you can type commands, for example, type: "man sudo" (dont use the quotes) and the press enter
[21:34] <bean> meerkats: git is what you want to use.
[21:34] <glad> yumbo: i just want a user interface, i don't know what i'm doing
[21:35] <xangua> glad: why doon't you explai what you want to do¿
[21:36] <glad> xangua: let me restart ubuntu, sec
[21:36] <er4z0r> I added a second NIC to my ubunbtu VM and even after a reboot I cannot see it in ifconfig
[21:36] <er4z0r> any ideas?
[21:36] <yumbo> glad, You don't have to use any commands, that message is just the default Ubuntu start message if you open the terminal
[21:37] <yumbo> you dont have to do anything with it ;)
[21:37] <Daghdha> Hi, i want to start some stuff when i login to ubuntu. And i also want to have the terminals they run in on specific virtual desktops. Can that be done?
[21:37] <glad> yumbo: i wasn't aware i opened the terminal. i just let ubuntu install and it presented me with that screen
[21:37] <Daghdha> Like startup in Windows i guess
[21:37] <bean> glad: sounds like you didn't install ubuntu desktop?
[21:38] <EvilResistance> Daghdha:  you can easily set up startup apps, but its not possible to get them to run in specific virtual desktops, afaik
[21:38] <glad> bean: is ubuntu desktop the one with a gui?
[21:38] <bean> glad: yes
[21:38] <bullgard4> yumbo: After pressing the Windows key and entering 'Sound', Ubuntu GNOME Shell 3.2.1 will produce 2 icons: »Audio recorder« and »Sound Juicer«. I cannot see any "Settings".
[21:38] <glad> bean: LOL ok ill install ubuntu desktop
[21:39] <Daghdha> EvilResistance is there an app to do that?
[21:39] <EvilResistance> Daghdha:  been a while since I've been in GNOME... it can be done, i just dont remember how :/... but someone else could probably help ya set it up
[21:40] <meerkats> if I go to http://packages.ubuntu.com and lok for libavcodec.so.52 synaptic will ask me to delete the most modern one, right?
[21:40] <meerkats> look*
[21:40] <vouth> Whenever I run glxinfo I am unexpectedly logged out. What is happening here??!
[21:40] <VCoolio> Daghdha: try compiz settings manager if you use compiz, else try devilspie
[21:40] <yumbo> bullgard4, run "gnome-control-center" from the terminal, click "Sound" and see again
[21:40] <EvilResistance> meerkats:  that's not a package name afaik...
[21:40] <bean> vouth: I'd guess that your X server is crashing
[21:40] <RonWhoCares> I am trying to upgrade from ubuntu 9 to 10.  I have tried doing this with the Upgrade Manager.  I receive an error "An upgrade from 'jaunty' to 'lucid' is not supported with this tool"  I tried to go into 'Terminal' and do "yum upgrade" .  I am receiving an error message that yum is not installed on the system.
[21:40] <meerkats> EvilResistance, library...
[21:40] <xangua> !eol | RonWhoCares
[21:41] <TiMiDo> <3 sony
[21:41] <TiMiDo> it works fine with ubuntu
[21:41] <EvilResistance> meerkats:  did you see package libavcodec53?
[21:41] <EvilResistance> meerkats:  or are yo urequired to use libavcodec 52?
[21:41] <meerkats> EvilResistance, yes, but I need libavcodec.so.52
[21:41] <meerkats> im required to
[21:41] <bean> by whom, or for what?
[21:41] <Daghdha> VCoolio: i use 10.x so that's devilspie then?
[21:41] <EvilResistance> RonWhoCares:  you'd have to upgrade to Karmic first, but you cant... because Karmic's past EOL
[21:41] <meerkats> for vegastrike
[21:41] <EvilResistance> RonWhoCares:  you'd be best just installing clean 10.04
[21:42] <RonWhoCares> how do I do this
[21:42] <yumbo> actually, replace that with 11.10 ^
[21:42] <RonWhoCares> I am doing this for a friend
[21:42] <bean> RonWhoCares: ubuntu uses apt, not yum.
[21:42] <EvilResistance> yumbo:  says who, if he wants lucid he can have lucid :P
[21:42] <RonWhoCares> what command should I give?
[21:42] <Daghdha> It's just in the preferences menu
[21:42] <EvilResistance> RonWhoCares:  you'd need to get an installation image from the website, and then burn that to either a CD or DVD...
[21:42] <Daghdha> startup programs
[21:42] <yumbo> EvilResistance, I say so, because otherwise if he want to upgrade from 10 to 12 he'll be stuck with the same problem all over again
[21:42] <Daghdha> o_O
[21:43] <EvilResistance> RonWhoCares:  and then boot to that disk
[21:43] <xangua> RonWhoCares: read what the bot just told you
[21:43] <EvilResistance> yumbo:  not if he wants to upgrade 10.04 -> 12.04
[21:43] <yann2> HEllo! I have a program that I run with java -jar yed.jar - it's a pain to always run with the console. Is there a way to add it to the dash in unity?
[21:43] <bean> RonWhoCares: you could try apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade
[21:43] <The0Racle> EvilResistance: it's still not working
[21:43] <EvilResistance> yumbo:  they're both LTSes, LTS to LTS upgrades are direct
[21:43] <vouth> bean: hmm, that was my thought too
[21:43] <The0Racle> I did port forwarding to the specified box, but it's not working for my friends
[21:43] <yumbo> EvilResistance, or 10.04 --> 11.10
[21:43] <EvilResistance> The0Racle:  what IP are they using to connect to the FTP server?
[21:43] <bean> The0Racle: thats because you'll need to give them your external IP
[21:43] <vouth> bean: no idea why though. I've been trying to get Compiz to work on my KM400 Unichrome IGP chip.
[21:43] <The0Racle> bean: I did give them my external IP
[21:44] <The0Racle> EvilResistance:  the link is this ftp://68.119.50.43/
[21:44] <VCoolio> Daghdha: devilspie needs some tweaking, find a decent howto and you'll figure it out, it's not that hard, just make sure devilspie is launched before the startup apps
[21:44] <EvilResistance> The0Racle:  which port(s) are you using?
[21:44] <EvilResistance> 22 is the default, make sure its opened
[21:44] <RonWhoCares> This is on a net book --- There is no DVD drive.
[21:44] <The0Racle> no, it's ftp
[21:44] <bean> The0Racle: connection refused.
[21:44] <Daghdha> I am gonna use https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AddingProgramToSessionStartup
[21:44] <bean> EvilResistance: you mean 21
[21:44] <RonWhoCares> bean this didn't work.,  All 404 Not Found
[21:44] <EvilResistance> RonWhoCares:  then you'll need to use a USB stick
[21:44] <EvilResistance> bean:  whatever
[21:45] <xangua> RonWhoCares: PLEASE read what the bot told you
[21:45] <The0Racle> yeah, I have the ports from 20-21 forwarded
[21:45] <EvilResistance> The0Racle:  did you configure the FTP server right?
[21:45] <bean> The0Racle: and you're sure you have them forwarded to the correct IP?
[21:45] <The0Racle> yes
[21:45] <The0Racle> I checked that over a couple times
[21:46] <The0Racle> EvilResistance:  I only started the FTP server
[21:46] <The0Racle> it's something included with the linux distribution I have on the other boxc
[21:46] <The0Racle> box*
[21:46] <The0Racle> it works from my internal network
[21:46] <bullgard4> yumbo: This produces an "Audio" dialog. The tab »Applications« lists 2 items: Banshee and ALSA plug-in [firefox]. Banshee's slider has a pink background. Can I infer that Banshee is currently playing audio?
[21:47] <yumbo> The0Racle, post your /etc/vsftpd.conf ?
[21:47] <bean> The0Racle: It'd seem to me that you don't have the port forwarding correct.
[21:48] <yumbo> bullgard4, never seen a pink background before, you can just try clicking mute and hear if audio gets muted :)
[21:48] <yumbo> The0Racle, it also helps if you could give the errors the people get when trying to connect
[21:49] <The0Racle> yumbo: Unable to connect
[21:49] <The0Racle>       
[21:49] <The0Racle>       
[21:49] <The0Racle>       
[21:49] <The0Racle>       
[21:49] <FloodBot1> The0Racle: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:49] <The0Racle> I'm so sorry!
[21:49] <The0Racle> stupid clipboard
[21:49] <The0Racle> It says unable to connect
[21:50] <yumbo> using FileZilla?
[21:50] <bean> The0Racle: then you don't have the port forwarding correct.
[21:50] <The0Racle> EvilResistance: The RST's you were getting were because of a firewall, but even after that, it's still not connecting
[21:50] <bullgard4> yumbo: Surprise: the pink background has vanished! --  Your recipe works: Muting ALSA plug-in [firefox] mutes the audio. So Firefox is the audio source. --  Thank you very much for your help.
[21:50] <The0Racle> bean: ports in the range of 19-22 are forwarded to 192.168.1.103
[21:51] <The0Racle> that IS the ip of the correct box
[21:51] <multipass> hi, im trying to install ProFont on ubuntu, i have ProFont_r400-11.pcf, i double click it and click install, but i dont see it on any applications
[21:51] <The0Racle> the pure FTPd server is running
[21:51] <yumbo> The0Racle, using FileZilla?
[21:51] <The0Racle> the firewall is not blocking connections to port 21
[21:51] <The0Racle> yumbo: I thought FileZilla is merely a client?
[21:51] <bean> it is.
[21:52] <yumbo> I wanted to know if that is the client the other people are using to connect
[21:52] <The0Racle> no, it is not
[21:52] <yumbo> and, no, actually, FileZilla is a server too
[21:52] <The0Racle> they are using their browsers
[21:52] <Daghdha> SIgh, startup only remember application that are not running in a terminal.
[21:52] <Daghdha> :/
[21:52] <The0Racle> I don't know what's wrong
[21:52] <bean> The0Racle: I'm getting a connection refused. Meaning that if you have port forwarding set up correctly that there is some sort of firewall in the way
[21:53] <The0Racle> okay, I completely turned off the firewall now
[21:53] <The0Racle> is it working now?
[21:54] <yumbo> The0Racle, do you have a passive range open?
[21:54] <bean> no
[21:54] <The0Racle> yumbo: what is that
[21:54] <yumbo> The0Racle, I recommend you google that
[21:55] <bean> The0Racle: you also might want to not use the default password on your router.
[21:55] <bean> and then paste your ip here
[21:55] <bean> with remote management enabled.
[21:56] <The0Racle> bean: lol, yeah sorry
[21:56] <The0Racle> it's just my home and these are some old computers
[21:56] <The0Racle> there's nothing worth 2 shits on THESE computers
[21:56] <bean> lol, just saying, with a simple NMAP it told me 80/tcp   open     http?
[21:56] <bean> | http-auth: HTTP Service requires authentication
[21:56] <bean> |   Auth type: Basic, realm = WRT54G
[21:56] <bean> |_  HTTP server may accept admin:admin combination for Basic authentication
[21:56] <yumbo> The0Racle, I would use vsftpd instead of pure ftpd
[21:57] <The0Racle> alright, lemme give it a try
[21:57] <bean> yumbo: it doesn'tmatter.
[21:57] <bean> yumbo: if you cant connect at all, it doesn't matter what ftpd he's using
[21:57] <The0Racle> bean: so what is the problem
[21:58] <bean> The0Racle: it has to be some sort of firewall
[21:58] <The0Racle> bean: I shut it down!
[21:58] <The0Racle> on both the router and the FTP box
[21:58] <The0Racle> give me a min
[21:58] <The0Racle> I'll do it again
[21:59] <yumbo> bean, its just that Im familair with vsftpd and have good experience with it, but in this case it appears to be the firewall indeed
[22:00] <bean> yumbo: the software doesn't matter if the networking isn't there.
[22:00] <zero_> Running up-to-date 11.10 on an Averatec 2500 notebook.  Have installed a few of my pieces of software in WinE, and desktop shortcuts were created along with the .lnk files.  Trying to hide the .lnk files from view, from placing a '.' in front of the .lnk filename and using CTRL + H no longer hides them (it will hide them if I open the Desktop folder, but they still wont be hidden on the Host Desktop Userspace...any ideas anyone?
[22:00] <yumbo> bean, well, it might be that pure-ftp is refusing remote connections actively
[22:01] <bean> yumbo: valid
[22:01] <The0Racle> idk why it won't work
[22:01] <bean> The0Racle: can you pastebin your FTP config
[22:01] <The0Racle> there is no FTP config
[22:01] <yumbo> :/
[22:01] <The0Racle> it just asked me if I wanted to start pFTP
[22:01] <The0Racle> d
[22:01] <The0Racle> and I said yes
[22:01] <The0Racle> I'll have to find that somewhere
[22:01] <The0Racle> hold on
[22:02] <FloodBot1> The0Racle: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:02] <yumbo> the config should be somwhere in /etc (maybe /etc/pure-ftpd/blabla.conf or /etc/pure-ftpd.conf)
[22:02] <The0Racle> nevermind
[22:02] <The0Racle> try it now
[22:02] <Daghdha> I have made a line to start an app, it's: xvt -e /home/admin/start-it    (Start-it is a shellsc ript with +x) it runs, but i don't see the output of the app in the terminal. How can i start it and also see the output?
[22:02] <The0Racle> I am so effin stupid if it works now
[22:02] <SoulShadow> they should really name the conf file blabla
[22:02]  * SoulShadow nods
[22:03] <yumbo> The0Racle, 18 chapters on hacking servers
[22:03] <yumbo> yay?
[22:03] <The0Racle> fuckin a
[22:03] <The0Racle> I'm an idiot
[22:03] <The0Racle> the server was NOT running
[22:03] <shadowe9899> lol
[22:03] <The0Racle> somehow it stopped, I must have stopped it while I was trying to figure out what was wrong
[22:03] <yumbo> well, that can be a problem sometimes too
[22:03] <yumbo> sometimes turning it on helps :)
[22:04] <zero_> Hello, IT here, have you tried turning it off and on again?  Well is it plugged in?  Thankyou... :D
[22:05] <yumbo> Daghdha, gnome-terminal -e /home/admin/start-it
[22:05] <yumbo> why not use that?
[22:05] <The0Racle> yumbo, bean, thanks for being patient with an idiot
[22:05] <bean> np The0Racle
[22:05] <Daghdha> Because because gnome terminal runs all instances in a single process
[22:06] <Daghdha> And if one of them dies they all die
[22:06] <muzone> *AIRHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOORN*
[22:06] <muzone> Any music producers around? Check out http://home.no/dwaynie/collabo/
[22:06] <whomp_> i'm trying to use two monitors with my ubuntu install and i have the latest drivers, but it's not detecting the second monitor. what should i try?
[22:06] <Infinite8> Wrking on seting up a ubuntu server and ran ssh localhost on my client pc (laptop) and returned this, ssh: connect to host localhost port 22: Connection refused.  Any ideas bc I googled the heck out of this and still no much on how to fixed this.
[22:06] <yumbo> Daghdha, I use screen myself
[22:07] <zero_> Would anyone be so kind as to explain to me why I can't hide .lnk that are on the desktop the way I hide other files from view (placing a '.' in front of the filename and toggling CTRL + H)?
[22:07] <Daghdha> screen would echo to console?
[22:07] <shadowe9899> Daghdha: if you wanted it to
[22:07] <yumbo> Daghdha, xvt should echo to console too
[22:07] <goddard> my vim has a funky setup
[22:08] <shadowe9899> Daghdha: screen is nice
[22:08] <yumbo> but I prefer screen
[22:08] <goddard> just installed 11.10
[22:08] <Daghdha> is screen a terminal?
[22:08] <shadowe9899> Daghdha: its a program that runs in one
[22:08] <yumbo> Daghdha, nope, "Screen is a full-screen window manager that multiplexes a physical terminal between several processes (typically interactive shells)."
[22:08] <shadowe9899> it can be used as a poor mans daemon too
[22:09] <Daghdha> sounds like hassle
[22:09] <yumbo> I use it as a poor mans daemon :D
[22:09] <shadowe9899> Daghdha: its easy to use
[22:09] <bfri> any good suggestions for a mp4 to avi converter?
[22:09] <yumbo> its so easy to use
[22:09] <Hathadar> I am trying to work through opengl bible 5th edition.  Due to a recent hardware failure I am using an old laptop that does not meet the minimum opengl requirements.  My headless server does meet the requirements.  How can I fake a local login via SSH and run programs that will output to a connected monitor?
[22:09] <Daghdha> just want a terminal spawned at login with a program running in it
[22:09] <shadowe9899> yumbo: me too lol
[22:10] <yumbo> bfri, you have to be more specific than avi, avi is a video container, the actually used compression can differ
[22:10] <bfri> yumbo: well i guess i dont know .avi isn't a file extension?
[22:10] <bfri> maybe .vob to burn on dvd
[22:11] <yumbo> bfri, do you want to watch the mp4 video on your dvdplayer?
[22:11] <bfri> yumbo yes
[22:11] <whomp_> i installed the latest drivers for my ubuntu install, but it's not detecting the second monitor. what should i try?
[22:12] <niteria> can I use apt to get source pkg?
[22:12] <niteria> I want to build package myself
[22:13] <owenll> whomp_: I suppose you've tried System Settings->Monitor
[22:13] <niteria> oh, I've found it
[22:14] <iceroot> niteria: apt-get source packagename
[22:14] <whomp_> owenll, system settings -> displays? i tried that
[22:14] <zero_> whomp_, did you make sure to check for the additional proprietary drivers for your GPU?  Dash Home> System Settings> Hardware>Additional Drivers
[22:14] <whomp_> yeah i installed the latest ones for my nvidia card
[22:15] <Daxter> i'm having a input problem with ubuntu 10.04, every ionce in a while the mouse freezes up and both keybaord and mouse accept no mroe input, i have to hard reset the system to get it to work again. this never happened on the machine with 9.10, can nayone tell me ehats going on?
[22:16] <zero_> And you cant see it at all in System Settings> Displays...ok
[22:17] <niteria> what I'm trying to do is to rebuild pkg with -fPIC
[22:18] <jair> anyone here knows the katakana way of writing the word Linux?
[22:18] <jair> I am talking to those that has any Japanese and Linux knowledge off topic of I thought give it a shot
[22:18] <owenll> Daxter: I had this with 10.04 - the solution here involving irqbalance solved it for me - doesn't work for everyone https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/528720
[22:18] <iceroot> !jp | jair
[22:19] <yumbo> bfri, http://www.rastersoft.com/programas/devede.html
[22:19] <yumbo> bfri, I think that program is best to use for what you want to do
[22:19] <bfri> yumbo thanks i'll check it out
[22:20] <jair> iceroot: thank you :)
[22:20] <Daxter> owenll: what system did this hsappen on? for me it happens on a core i5 but not a amd athlon 64
[22:20] <yumbo> bfri, Its installable via "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install devede"
[22:20] <bfri> Yumbo cheers
[22:21] <Daghdha> ok this is not going well.
[22:21] <Daghdha> If i start a terminal from another terminal th 'parent'
[22:21] <owenll> Daxter: sorry don't have those details here - not amd definitely
[22:21] <Daghdha> If i start a terminal from another terminal th 'parent' is unusable.
[22:21] <r4y> Hello
[22:22] <r4y> I have an mp3 player I can't mount
[22:22] <Daxter> ok thanks will try it..after i get hidden menu working for grub 2 in multi-os systems
[22:23] <Hathadar> Can I start a program on a remote machine though ssh that will output to the remote machine's monitor?
[22:23] <owenll> Daxter: it changed my machine from unusable to working - and you can always change it back!
[22:23] <ManDay> Does anyone know how Casper causes that "Remove installation medium and press ENTER" message upon shutdown?
[22:23] <ManDay> I need to get rid of it! My computer doesnt have any ENTER key!
[22:23] <yumbo> lol, no enter key
[22:24] <ManDay> yes.
[22:24] <dougl> Hathadar, what were you thinking?
[22:24] <lordjj> Hello. My screen usually freezes when resuming from a screen saver, but I can switch to cli with cntrl+alt+f#. What can I do to recover the screen?
[22:24] <ManDay> yumbo: Tablet PC
[22:24] <Kurdistan> http://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/best-distro-2011.html  nice review about Ubuntu with Unity.
[22:25] <ManDay> yumbo: I see no point in that message anyway. It should never have been put there in the first place
[22:25] <yumbo> lordjj, press Control+Alt+F7
[22:25] <Hathadar> dougl, I am starting to learn opengl.  My main box had a hardware failure.  While I wait for a new mobo I would like to code on an old laptop and execute my program on my server box which has an opengl 3.3 compatable video card.
[22:25] <lordjj> yumbo, that doesn't help.
[22:25] <Hathadar> dougl, code on old laptop, run opengl on newer server
[22:26] <yumbo> lordjj, log in on the cli and then type "startx"
[22:26] <lordjj> yumbo neither does that
[22:26] <yumbo> lordjj, Do you have the kill sequence enabled?
[22:27] <lordjj> yumbo not sure what that is
[22:27] <dougl> Hathadar, there is a display command that defines what display to use when you launch your apps... but I dunno enuff to define the syntax
[22:27] <yumbo> lordjj, Keyboard Layout --> Layouts --> Options... --> Key sequence to kill the X server
[22:27] <dougl> Display 0.0 xine or something to that effect
[22:28] <lordjj> yumbo you mean cntrl+alt+backspace to restart X?
[22:28] <lordjj> yumbo yes, but that logs me out.
[22:28] <yumbo> lordjj, enable that and then you can use Control+Alt+Backspace to restart X
[22:28] <yumbo> oh
[22:28] <yumbo> well, disable screensaver then?
[22:28] <lordjj> yumbo it still occurs without screensaver, e.g: closing laptop lid and opening
[22:29] <yumbo> lordjj, AMD gpu?
[22:29] <testpckamil> siema
[22:29] <lordjj> yumbo no NVIDIA integrated graphics
[22:29] <yumbo> lordjj, you have latest nvidia drivers installed?
[22:30] <testpckamil> jakeie sa najnowsze stery nividi do linuxa
[22:30] <lordjj> yumbo afaik, yes.
[22:30] <yumbo> testpckamil, Only english here.
[22:30] <testpckamil> oh fack
[22:30] <lordjj> yumbo from what is available in the 11.04 repos
[22:30] <testpckamil> shit
[22:31] <lordjj> yumbo actually I think its not even Nvidia, "Intel Corporation Mobile 4 Series Chipset Memory"
[22:31] <Pessimism> I think I had some data corruption on my hard drive, and now two Ubuntu installatiosn both start up with the grub> shell, following the `prefix not set` error. How do I initiate some kind of diagnostic or repair tool?
[22:31] <CarlFK> testpckamil: please watch your language
[22:31] <yumbo> lordjj, lspci | grep VGA
[22:32] <testpckamil> new drivers nvidia linuks
[22:32] <lordjj> yumbo Intel Corporation Mobile 4 Series Chipset Integrated Graphics Controller
[22:32] <testpckamil> how to
[22:32] <lordjj> yumbo (rev 07)
[22:32] <ManDay> Does anyone know how Casper causes that "Remove installation medium and press ENTER" message upon shutdown?
[22:32] <owenll> testpckamil: System Settings -> Restricted drivers
[22:32] <gao> my dedicated server came with ubuntu 10.10, it is saying that a new release (Natty) is available. SHould I be upgrading to this version?
[22:32] <yumbo> lordjj, upgrading to 11.10 might help because of newer drivers
[22:33] <yumbo> lordjj, other than that you're probably out of luck
[22:33] <owenll> testpckamil: additional drivers (not restricted)
[22:33] <yumbo> testpckamil, do this in terminal "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade && sudo apt-get install nvidia-current"
[22:33] <lordjj> yumbo, is there a way to change resolution from cli?
[22:34] <yumbo> not that I know of
[22:34] <c3ntury> Anyone available to help me out with a little problem within my Ubuntu server install? Willing to reward the guy / girl that can spare a minute or 2 xD
[22:34] <yumbo> c3ntury, just say what the problem is :)
[22:34] <pippo> ciao
[22:34] <c3ntury> Sure yumbo.
[22:34] <wooter> c3ntury: whats the prob, no reward required
[22:34] <c3ntury> Here is an image of my partitions - http://imgf.tw/441067168.png
[22:34] <wooter> plus my webcam is broken
[22:35] <c3ntury> As you can tell, the sda1 only has 17MB or so available, I need to expand that partition, but it's impossible whilst mounted.
[22:35] <c3ntury> Furthermore, it's on OVH, so I can't exactly pop in a CD-ROM with gparted.
[22:35] <c3ntury> Whoops, /s/17/500/
[22:35] <c3ntury> It says 17 in df -h.
[22:35] <gao> my dedicated server came with ubuntu 10.10, it is saying that a new release (Natty) is available. SHould I be upgrading to this version?
[22:36] <yumbo> c3ntury, when I saw that 9.76 GiB I immediately thought it was too small :S
[22:36] <Daghdha> :( I made the shells cript. Wich works fine when i run it on the shell. It prompts for closing using pause command. But when the same script is called with -e it doesn't wait dor the read
[22:36] <Daghdha> Anyone know why?
[22:36] <c3ntury> yumbo: My friend did the install setup, I regret it now frankly. :/
[22:37] <c3ntury> Is there any way I can expand it without having to reinstall my server from scratch?
[22:37] <yumbo> yes there is
[22:37] <c3ntury> Wa'hey!
[22:37] <yumbo> its called online resizing
[22:37] <yumbo> you firstly have to unmount the 1.8TB partition
[22:37] <yumbo> resize it to something smaller
[22:38] <yumbo> c3ntury, what does "free -m" give you?
[22:38] <wooter> gao: if it aint broke, don't fix it IMO, aslong as the distro is still support
[22:38] <c3ntury> Want a screenshot? It came up with a table of sorts.
[22:38] <yumbo> sure
[22:39] <piero> Is Ubuntu going to support gnome-shell software rendering like fedora?
[22:39] <c3ntury> Mem: Total = 15989 Used = 15901 Free = 87 Cached = 12090
[22:39] <CarlFK> c3ntury:   I would not resize / - but you can move some of the larger parts, like /var to their own partition
[22:39] <yumbo> c3ntury, not a great idea to run the OS and the torrents on the same system btw
[22:39] <yumbo> same hard drive*
[22:39] <c3ntury> CarlFK: That sounds perfect, how can I do that?
[22:39] <c3ntury> yumbo: It's a single HDD system, and with an online host, there's not a lot of flexibility sadly :/
[22:40] <Daghdha> anyone know why a shell in unix wouldn't wait for read 'command' in a shells cript if it's run with -e? like: xvt -e myscript  (in gnome-terminal it also fails to wait for the read to close)
[22:40] <c3ntury> But I understand your concerns tbh, it's sound reasoning.
[22:40] <yumbo> 511mb swap seems a little slow
[22:41] <gao> ok thanks wooter
[22:41] <c3ntury> Should I increase that as well?
[22:41] <wooter> Daghdha: well the -e specifies If not interactive, exit immediately if any untested command fails.
[22:41] <gao> how long is 10.10 supported for?
[22:41] <whomp> i tried restarting with older drivers, but ubuntu still isn't detecting the monitor. anything i might try?
[22:41] <piero> why do u use swap nowdays??
[22:41] <yumbo> c3ntury, I have 8gb myself, but I never fill my 16gb RAM
[22:41] <edbian> piero, to hibernate
[22:41] <yumbo> so just leave it at 511MB
[22:41] <CarlFK> c3ntury: gie me a sec.. similar to the other suggestions... let me outline the steps
[22:41] <piero> disk swap totally sucks
[22:41] <yumbo> piero, dont say that here
[22:41] <Tech-1> gao:  this april i think
[22:41] <c3ntury> CarlFK: Sure, thanks.
[22:42] <Daghdha> i thought -e ment execute this command
[22:42] <piero> edbian, copy 16GB from disk back to ram is as fast as a normal boot?
[22:42] <piero> yumbo, sorry...
[22:42] <Daghdha> so it considders built in commands like read unimportant?
[22:42] <wooter> gao: april 2012, i have a server running same version, i am holding off till april aswell
[22:42] <edbian> piero, Hibernate is not always about speed.  Sometimes it's about returning to your state of work quickly
[22:43] <Daghdha> wooter: What if i want it to not exit imemdiately?
[22:43] <gao> well i don't want it to ruin later on >.<
[22:43] <piero> yeah... but I don't have such amount of memory to know... how much time it takes?
[22:43] <Daghdha> man xvt
[22:43] <wooter> Daghdha: don't use -e ?
[22:43] <Daghdha> But i want to have it execute a script
[22:44] <wooter> gao: a LTS version is released in april 2012..it will be supported for 5 years
[22:44] <CarlFK> c3ntury: can you reboot into something like rescue mode?  mainly so that / is mounted read-only?
[22:44]  * Daghdha shrugs, seems like a normal desire.
[22:45] <c3ntury> CarlFK: Hmm, there's something like that aye.
[22:45] <c3ntury> Whether it's just for tests rather than actual commands I'm not sure.
[22:45] <c3ntury> Let me see...
[22:46] <gao> I'M UPGRADING XD!!
[22:46] <CarlFK> c3ntury: http://dpaste.de/BVfwi/  remount / as read only; mv /var /home; ln -s /home/var /var; reboot
[22:46] <gao> oh really...
[22:46] <CarlFK> c3ntury: that isn't a great solution, but it is less risky.. not sure what I would do really.
[22:46] <c3ntury> There's this - http://help.ovh.ie/RescueMode
[22:47] <c3ntury> One question CarlFK, what command do I use to remount / as read only?
[22:48] <wooter> good luck gao
[22:48] <wooter> i didnt have the balls, incase everything broke
[22:49] <m123456789> hola
[22:49] <Daghdha> What is an alternative to running a terminal with -e option and a script so it will not close when the script is at the end, despite having a read in the end of the script?
[22:49] <m123456789> spanis
[22:49] <oneliner> current standard boot time for an 11.10 install on a 8gbram six core pc exceeds a minute; bloatware much?
[22:50] <CarlFK> c3ntury: looks like the "rescue in ssh" is what you want
[22:50] <owenll> !es | m123456789
[22:50] <meerkats> what does make: *** [all] Error 2 mean? sudo?
[22:50] <meerkats> and error 1?
[22:50] <CarlFK> c3ntury: actually skip the RO thing, just do this step: rescue:~# mount /dev/hda1 /mnt/
[22:52] <CarlFK> c3ntury: sounds like the "rescue in ssh" mode is kinda like booting a live cd.  some other OS is live, and your installed os is just on an unmonted partition.  so you can mount it read/write, but the running OS isn't going to write stuff to it while you move it from / to /home
[22:52] <c3ntury> Sounds perfect to me.
[22:53] <CarlFK> c3ntury: although given you can boot into that, I would shrink the home fs and partition, use the free space for a new partition and mount  /var on it.
[22:53] <VCoolio> Daghdha: do you need the terminal or just the output? If the output, then pipe that to zenity, like: command | zenity --text-info
[22:54] <c3ntury> CarlFK: That last line confused me :p
[22:54] <Hathadar> I would like to learn opengl on my ubuntu machine.  It is ubuntu 11.10 server edition.  Does opengl require a desktop like gnome or unity or can an opengl application start on a standard server edition of ubuntu?
[22:54] <Daghdha> VCoolio: I need the terminal, i am running them from startp, there will be 5 with different apps
[22:54] <c3ntury> If /var is on the home partition, what use would it give giving it its own partition?
[22:56] <shadowe9899> Hathadar: Try #programming #c #c++ they might know.
[22:56] <CarlFK> c3ntury: resize home instead of moveing var into it
[22:57] <CarlFK> c3ntury: having /var linked to /home/var makes me grumpy :)
[22:57] <c3ntury> I'll try and do that :)
[22:57] <c3ntury> Just waiting patiently for the rescue-mode to load up.
[22:59] <gao> what version of ubuntu are you guys using
[22:59] <RonWhoCares> I followed the instructions on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MaverickUpgrades#AlternateUpgrade
[22:59] <shadowe9899> gao: 10.04 on my laptop and 11.04 on my desktop
[22:59]  * Daghdha sighs
[23:00] <owenll> gao: 11.10 - Gnome-shell
[23:00] <RonWhoCares> No dialog came up when I mounted the ISO  (step 2)
[23:00] <RonWhoCares> I am receiving an error on step 4
[23:00] <VCoolio> Daghdha: some options here, tried those? http://askubuntu.com/questions/3359/with-a-launcher-for-a-terminal-application-how-can-i-keep-the-terminal-open-aft
[23:00] <RonWhoCares> (when trying to start the upgrade maaually with  ALT F2
[23:00] <MTecknology> How can I rebuild everything that was in /boot? The partition got corrupted.
[23:01] <VCoolio> Daghdha: that was a long link, here short: http://is.gd/1e46i8
[23:02] <Daghdha> Heh, some of those read 'answers' are exactly the problem :P But that hold i will try. Thank you
[23:02] <RonWhoCares> http://pastebin.com/9Ww7rbKF
[23:03] <Daghdha> q
[23:04] <RonWhoCares> how should I proceed?
[23:05] <amstan> i'm trying to rebuild a kernel module for my ubuntu install, how do i do that? linux-source installs no sources(i can't find any c files in /usr/src/linux-source-3.0.0)
[23:05] <john> hi
[23:06] <evildaemon> Hello.
[23:06] <evildaemon> I need help with my wireless.
[23:06] <evildaemon> My card works, but won't connect.
[23:06] <evildaemon> It will however, broadcast.
[23:07] <evildaemon> So the card is working, it's just not connecting.
[23:07] <Daghdha> all i need is an executable that waits for keypress instead built in terminals
[23:07] <evildaemon> I've tried multiple devices and it still does this.
[23:09] <c3ntury> CarlFK: You around?
[23:10] <bestofothers> help please am using ubuntu 11.10 and i did sudo apt-get install wine ..... now i saw the EULA msg stopping from seeing the terminal or canteven close which makes it hard for me to see what the process is now
[23:11] <VCoolio> Daghdha: seems like "exec $SHELL" at the end does it :) like for me: urxvt -e sh -c "echo blah && exec $SHELL"
[23:11] <whomp> how do i stop cat >> from adding on a newline before it concatenates the string
[23:13] <AndroUser2> J
[23:14] <Daghdha> guess i install uxterm again then :/
[23:17] <Daghdha> all not working for xvt anyway. guess i am forced to use screen
[23:18] <gao> lol i just upgraded from ubuntu 10.10 to 11.10 XD
[23:19] <gao> i had to upgrade to narwhale first tho
[23:19] <r4y> Might I be able to format my mp3 player that will not mount?
[23:20] <VCoolio> whomp: echo -n "your stuff" >> yourfile
[23:21] <r4y> It's an rca mp3 player that still plays music, but it will not mount on Windows or Ubuntu 10.04
[23:21] <Hathadar> I just installed X server on my server machine.  How do I know it was successful without installing a desktop gui?
[23:21] <VCoolio> whomp: or: echo -n $(cat whatever) >> yourfile
[23:24] <VCoolio> Hathadar: if you have graphics drivers and input drivers installed, try startx
[23:27] <Hathadar> VCoolio, After running startx my server's monitor turned grey and had a mouse cursor.  My putty console had these errors
[23:27] <Hathadar> (EE) Failed to load module "nvidia" (module does not exist, 0)
[23:27] <Hathadar> (EE) Failed to load module "nv" (module does not exist, 0)
[23:27] <anon_> hey why am i logged into this ubuntu crap?
[23:27] <anon_> Imha gonna tell Stallman about this!
[23:28] <Hathadar> I want x running so I can run console to fullscreen opengl programs.  Do you think those errors would hinder that?
[23:28] <VCoolio> Hathadar: did you configure xorg.conf to use nvidia driver but not install it?
[23:28] <Hathadar> VCoolio, no.  I am a bit lost as to what I need to do as I am new to linux.
[23:29] <Hathadar> But I guess i'll download and isntall nvidia's linux drivers
[23:29] <anon_> that feel when want to install imnt
[23:29] <VCoolio> Hathadar: what does this say: lspci | grep VGA
[23:29] <Daghdha> gedit
[23:31] <mediawork> hi
[23:31] <Guest21130> mediawork: hello
[23:31] <mediawork> someone pointed me at an old development called kmid, its supposed to be a great midi player.
[23:31] <mediawork> however:   http://perso.wanadoo.es/antlarr/kmid.html#Download
[23:31] <mediawork> as you can see on the website it uses KDE 1.1.x
[23:32] <kkfn> Hello, how can I boot into busybox from a boot loader?
[23:32] <mediawork> is there any chance I can compile this on my relatively new ubuntu?
[23:32] <heinz> mediawork: very unlikely without changes
[23:32] <mediawork> I mean my kde libs arent THAT backwards compatible are they?
[23:32] <heinz> no
[23:33] <mediawork> prob. wasnt even compilable on the first ubunut, lol
[23:33] <Hathadar> VCoolio, 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation G92 [GeForce 9800 GTX+] (rev a2)
[23:34] <Daghdha> Can i start screen with multiple programs?
[23:34] <VCoolio> Hathadar: nice, I have 9800 GT, so you need nvidia drivers; they're in the repositories, don't go to nvidia site
[23:34] <Ben64> Hathadar: where is your server
[23:34] <Gremuchnik> Hi. can you please remind me in which subdirectory a deb package is downloaded if I choose "download only" in Synaptic.  I would like to fetch a package from the software center, not install it, and just put it on a flash drive.  Thanks!!
[23:36] <gao> what does oneiric mean?
[23:36] <cypher-neo> Can some give me the link for the Ubuntu 11.10 Minimal CD? I'm having trouble locating it.
[23:36] <Hathadar> Ben64, not more than 4 feet away from me.  I know it would be much easier to just plug in a keyboard but I only have one and I am treating this as a learning experience.
[23:36] <VCoolio> Gremuchnik: try /var/cache/apt, not sure
[23:36] <Ben64> why not do "sudo apt-get install ubuntu-dekstop"
[23:36] <Gremuchnik> VCoolio, thanks
[23:36] <cypher-neo> gao, Oneiric = of or relating to dreams
[23:37] <heinz> mediawork: the code does not heavily depend on kde, though, so rewriting it should be fairly straight-forward
[23:37] <Hathadar> Ben64, for the learning experience.  I want to know what components are necessary to render opengl.  If I had a desktop version, my apps would just work and I wouldn't learn as much.
[23:38] <gao> that is so cool cypher-neo
[23:38] <gao> where do they come up with these names?
[23:39] <cypher-neo> gao, I don't know... someone has a ridiculous thesaurus!
[23:39] <gao> lol
[23:39] <Hathadar> VCoolio, how would I go about finding which repositories I need?  Also, how do I generally find out what repositories are needed for a given situation instead of depending on someone to feed me an apt-get line?
[23:39] <cypher-neo> gao, What i want to know is how Precise got named! It's such an ordinary word.
[23:40] <lalagirl> hi there, i'm getting this when i'm about to install mediawiki
[23:40] <lalagirl> Warning: The intl PECL extension is not available to handle Unicode normalization, falling back to slow pure-PHP implementation.
[23:40] <cypher-neo> gao, Though Pangolin is odd...
[23:40] <lalagirl> what should I do?
[23:40] <VCoolio> Hathadar: restricted, check  which repositories I need?  Also, how do I generally find out
[23:40] <VCoolio> Hathadar: I mean, check http://is.gd/Uiuphe
[23:42] <lalagirl> hi i'm getting this warning when i'm going through the installation process of mediawiki 1.18.0: "Warning: The intl PECL extension is not available to handle Unicode normalization, falling back to slow pure-PHP implementation." what should I do?
[23:42] <gplikespie> Oh hey people
[23:42] <cypher-neo> lalagirl, Fall back?
[23:42] <Hathadar> Thanks VCoolio
[23:43] <cypher-neo> lalagirl, Perhaps you can re-enable it once it's installed
[23:43] <gplikespie> Hey, does anyone know how to get my linux to access my internal microphone on my laptop?
[23:43] <rectec> hey what happened to the emerald package? I can't find it in the default repos
[23:43] <VCoolio> Hathadar: also apt-file may help, to search what package contains a certain file
[23:44] <gao> wow
[23:44] <gao> i just install onoiric
[23:44] <gao> oneiric
[23:44] <gplikespie> anyone help me please?
[23:44] <gao> and it's taking forever to restart compared to narwhale
[23:45] <rectec> sorry gplikespie I have my own problems. I'd gladly assist if I can get this fixed
[23:45] <Daxter> tried irqbalance it didnt work
[23:46] <lalagirl> http://s13.postimage.org/lmoue237r/Screen_Shot_2011_12_27_at_6_44_22_PM.png
[23:46] <gao> argggggggggggh
[23:46] <gao> my ubuntu is stuck restarting!!!!!!!
[23:46] <rectec> how can I get emerald?
[23:47] <gao> AAAAAAAA
[23:47] <bluepine6> ww
[23:47] <gplikespie> I have an internal mic on my computer, and I cant seem to get ubuntu to recognize it... It recognizes my camera, but not my microphone
[23:47] <gao> lalagirl is that a mac?
[23:47] <gplikespie> what is emerald?
[23:47] <lalagirl> gao yes
[23:47] <rectec> it's a window decorator
[23:47] <rectec> i think it's been deleted from the repos
[23:47] <lalagirl> gao i'm installing it using ubuntu server using ssh
[23:47] <rectec> but nobody seems to care
[23:48] <lalagirl> gao from a macbook air
[23:48] <syn-ack> Um
[23:48] <gplikespie> hey gao
[23:48] <gplikespie> i think i have a solution
[23:48] <VCoolio> rectec: deprecated and indeed no one really cares
[23:48] <syn-ack> rectec, Emerald was decontinued, a LONG time ago
[23:48] <gplikespie> to emerald
[23:48] <rectec> gplikespie: I can't get my mic to work either.
[23:48] <gplikespie> i went to the terminal and put in sudo apt-get install emerald
[23:49] <dr_willis> emerald is basically a dead project you know gplikespie?
[23:49] <gplikespie> thats how I get all my stuff
[23:49] <gplikespie> no i dont kow
[23:49] <gplikespie> know
[23:49] <dr_willis> !emerald
[23:49] <rectec> VCoolio, syn-ack: well how can I get a different decorator with compiz than gtk?
[23:50] <dr_willis> there was only 3 decorators that i knew of.. Gtk's KDE,s (qt?) and emerald.
[23:50] <syn-ack> rectec, please retype that since it didn't really make sense.
[23:50] <dr_willis> compiz sites might have others that are not in the repos. but ive never heard of any.
[23:50] <vitamin> Recently there has been work in the Compiz Fusion project to create a replacement for emerald, the current leading candidate for which is Jasper, a much more customizable window decorator which supports plugins, scriptable buttons and animation.
[23:50] <syn-ack> GTK != a decorator.
[23:50] <rectec> syn-ack: Compiz comes with gtk-window-decorator by default, I'd like a different look
[23:51] <kkfn> Hello, how can I boot into busybox from a boot loader?
[23:51] <syn-ack> rectec, so retheme it.
[23:51] <dr_willis> The GTK Window Decorator is the default window decorator provided with the Compiz package. It provides basic window borders and shadow support. It consists of two themes, Cairo decorations and Metacity decorations. GTK Window Decorator requires GNOME as it uses GConf to store it's settings.
[23:51] <gplikespie> okay, what is compiz?
[23:51] <dr_willis> http://wiki.compiz.org/Decorators/GTKWindowDecorator
[23:51] <dr_willis> !compiz
[23:51] <rectec> gplikespie: it's a window manager
[23:51] <lalagirl> /msg nickserv
[23:52] <gplikespie> oh, thanks
[23:52] <dr_willis> Its what gives you the fancy eyecandy effects
[23:52] <joallard> X won't start after I tried uninstalling my nvidia (official) driver. where do I start?
[23:52] <w30> rectec, I googled for emerald for ubuntu and got several hits, some worked and some didn't. I got one and it installed ok on 11.10
[23:52] <gplikespie> I am a recent convert from windows, hehe
[23:52] <dr_willis> http://wiki.compiz.org/AboutCompizFusion
[23:52] <syn-ack> dr_willis, heh no so fancy in 11.10. :P
[23:52] <rectec> syn-ack: can you please explain how? I'm running xfce
[23:52] <gplikespie> I have seen the light, and now walk the blessed path with the few and the tech savvy
[23:52] <syn-ack> wait
[23:52] <lalagirl> /msg nickserv set hidemail on
[23:52] <syn-ack> why are you using Compiz in XFCE?
[23:53] <syn-ack> since, you know, it's got it's own compositor and all.
[23:53] <w30> rectec, I made sure I saved my  deb  copy *smile*
[23:53] <rectec> syn-ack: only DE i see possible to run it stably
[23:53] <dr_willis> !info emerald
[23:53] <rectec> syn-ack: incase you didn't know, GNOME 2 is deprecated : (
[23:53] <lalagirl> !help
[23:53] <syn-ack> rectec, I'm quite aware of it.
[23:54] <lalagirl> !ubottu
[23:54] <Hathadar> After installing the latest nvidia drivers and rebooting the command xinit will cause my screen to flask for a moment and then terminate stating (EE) Failed to load module "nv" (module does not exist, 0)
[23:54] <rectec> syn-ack: yeah not that maybe DEs to run compiz on anymore
[23:54] <blobbyyyyyy> hey
[23:54] <Hathadar> flash*
[23:55] <_rb_> trying to connect a lexmark 4600 via wireless. I can ping the printer but can't print to it.Any idea what port should I use?
[23:55] <syn-ack> Honestly, you would be much better off and supported with XFCE's compositor.
[23:55] <gplikespie> anyone know if there is a port for League of Legends?
[23:55] <rectec> sorry what did I miss?
[23:55] <gao> ROFLMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[23:55] <w30> syn-ack, really? What's the package name for compiz for Xfce?
[23:56] <gao> guys is it strange for a restart to take 20 minutes after installing oneiric?
[23:56] <syn-ack> w30, did I say Compiz for XFCE?
[23:57] <w30> syn-ack, what is the xfce compositor then?
[23:57] <syn-ack> and it's Xfwm4.
[23:57] <rectec> just so you know, XFCE runs compiz fine, and it's one of the few good DEs left to run it on.
[23:57] <gao> GUYS
[23:57] <lalagirl> !helpme
[23:58] <Daghdha> well, almost done.
[23:58] <lalagirl> !repeat
[23:58] <root_____> hiii
[23:58] <lalagirl> hi
[23:58] <lalagirl> root_____ hi
[23:58] <rectec> trust me if Gnome 2 was still supported I'd be running compiz on it just like the good old days. OK so anyway, how to I change the gtk-window-decorator theme?
[23:58] <r000t> there we goo
[23:58] <gao> guys is it strange for a restart to take 30 minutes after installing oneiric?
[23:58] <r000t> yes
[23:58] <w30> syn-ack, ok then, I now understand. None of that wobbly window 3d cube stuff then.
[23:58] <syn-ack> right
[23:59] <joallard> X won't start after uninstalling nvidia; where do I start looking?
[23:59] <lalagirl> hi i'm getting this warning when i'm going through the installation process of mediawiki 1.18.0: "Warning: The intl PECL extension is not available to handle Unicode normalization, falling back to slow pure-PHP implementation." what can I do to fix this? how do i install it with terminal?
[23:59] <joallard> lalagirl, this sounds like a PHP problem, not really ubuntu
[23:59] <lalagirl> gao yes it is strange
[23:59] <syn-ack> Geez.... my bunk heater is burning the heck out of me.
[23:59] <lalagirl> joallard how do i fix it using terminal?
[23:59] <lalagirl> joallard i need to install something