mongy | anyone else notice thunar access network before loading | 00:29 |
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mongy | and, why? | 00:29 |
CrownWheel | mongy, is anyone actually talking in here? | 00:38 |
CrownWheel | Am I set to "invisible" or some other arcane IRC thing? | 00:38 |
GridCube | mongy, yes, thats pretty much he worst bug in thunar for the last few months | 00:39 |
GridCube | why CrownWheel ? | 00:39 |
mongy | GridCube, months? | 00:39 |
CrownWheel | oh...just checking. | 00:39 |
GridCube | mongy, yes | 00:39 |
mongy | yay for open source speedy fixes | 00:39 |
GridCube | we have had it since 11.0 | 00:39 |
GridCube | 4 | 00:39 |
mongy | many eyes means, not much | 00:40 |
GridCube | theres a workaround | 00:40 |
CrownWheel | actually, I wrote a good deal about gvfs doing something surprising earler, got zero responses. | 00:40 |
CrownWheel | In #ubuntu, someone pulled out a 2008 bug report from Launchpad describing my bug. | 00:40 |
GridCube | it happens | 00:40 |
CrownWheel | (having to do with corrupt permissions on .gvfs) | 00:40 |
CrownWheel | Looks like it was fixed back in Hardy. | 00:41 |
GridCube | bug #775117 | 00:41 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 775117 in thunar (Ubuntu) "Thunar hangs on first launch of each session" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/775117 | 00:41 |
CrownWheel | But I've got the same behavior now in Oneiric. | 00:41 |
CrownWheel | So...whadup wit' 'dat? | 00:41 |
CrownWheel | bug 531516 | 00:41 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 531516 in evince (Ubuntu) "Evince can't handle radio buttons anymore" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/531516 | 00:41 |
GridCube | the workaroun is on comment 13 | 00:41 |
CrownWheel | reading... | 00:42 |
CrownWheel | GridCube, was that comment 13 to bug 531516? | 00:43 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 531516 in evince (Ubuntu) "Evince can't handle radio buttons anymore" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/531516 | 00:43 |
GridCube | no | 00:43 |
CrownWheel | that explains it... | 00:43 |
GridCube | i was talking to mongy and the accessin to network before loading | 00:44 |
CrownWheel | what a coincidence. I was looking at Bug 531516 - gvfs fuse mount is not functional after logout and subsequent login | 00:44 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 531516 in evince (Ubuntu) "Evince can't handle radio buttons anymore" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/531516 | 00:45 |
CrownWheel | bah. gnome bugtracker. | 00:45 |
GridCube | :) | 00:46 |
GridCube | then maybe that workaround will help you too | 00:47 |
CrownWheel | well, it looks like I've got a .gvfs issue, not a Thunar issue. But, like I say, it's supposedly fixed, as of Heron sometime in '08.. | 00:48 |
CrownWheel | Like I say, it results in corruption of the permissions to .gvfs in /home | 00:49 |
CrownWheel | it ALSO results in corrupt permissions on /etc/mtab, so I can't even "cat mtab" to see if there's a gvfs filesystem mounted. | 00:49 |
CrownWheel | It also managed to corrupt permissions to my .bash_history | 00:50 |
CrownWheel | With the corrupted file permissions in /home, Thunar won't display anything in that directory. | 00:50 |
CrownWheel | and I can't delete the permissions-corrupted file (even with sudo) because it generates an I/O error. | 00:51 |
CrownWheel | Anyway, Vanna, if I could buy a clue as to where to start repairing GVFS, I would. | 00:53 |
GridCube | no idea sorry :( | 01:03 |
Fudge | hi can talk here re precisde alpha xubuntu? | 02:29 |
Fudge | precise even | 02:30 |
Unit193 | Fudge: Would be far better in #ubuntu+1 | 02:34 |
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Fudge | Unit193 i'm there but wasn't sure if xubuntu support or questions were available, thanks | 02:38 |
Fudge | um i cant mount this xubuntu precise alpha, has anyone here tried it scucessfully | 06:00 |
Fudge | successfully | 06:00 |
holstein | Fudge: cant mount? | 06:38 |
holstein | you mean, the install is failing? | 06:38 |
holstein | maybe try http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/daily-live/20111226/ | 06:39 |
the_3f_rule | Any of you guys know a image app that can browse to a nas? | 06:39 |
holstein | the_3f_rule: ?... if its mounted, you can use what you like | 06:40 |
holstein | i use gigolo to mount network shares usually | 06:40 |
the_3f_rule | It is. | 06:40 |
Unit193 | the_3f_rule: But you may need to install gvfs-backends in Oneiric for Gigolo to work | 06:40 |
the_3f_rule | I am a total noob though with Linux | 06:41 |
the_3f_rule | I use gigolo also. | 06:41 |
the_3f_rule | I should say I have installed gigolo but haven't gotten it to work yet | 06:41 |
Unit193 | First, what version are you on? | 06:41 |
the_3f_rule | The latest. 11.10? | 06:42 |
holstein | the question is more like 'how do i mount my network share on my NAS' | 06:43 |
holstein | then you can use whatever you like to view the pics | 06:43 |
holstein | the_3f_rule: what NAS? | 06:43 |
holstein | do you know how its being shared? | 06:44 |
the_3f_rule | Sorry. | 06:47 |
the_3f_rule | Blackarmor 440 | 06:47 |
the_3f_rule | Smb. | 06:48 |
holstein | so, you might want to read about mounting samba shares | 06:48 |
holstein | i typically personally avoid samba | 06:49 |
the_3f_rule | Well, let me rephrase the question | 06:49 |
holstein | Unit193: gigolo will mount a samba share? | 06:49 |
Unit193 | holstein: Oh yes, with the backends | 06:49 |
the_3f_rule | I can get to the share. | 06:50 |
holstein | the_3f_rule: i would grab that package Unit193 mentioned | 06:50 |
the_3f_rule | What I am really looking for is a program that will display thumbnails from the nas. The application is for my wife's photography business | 06:51 |
the_3f_rule | Didn't see the package 193 mentioned | 06:51 |
Sysi | sudp apt-get update ; sudo apt-get install gvfs-backends | 06:52 |
the_3f_rule | Rgr. I'll try that thanks | 06:53 |
holstein | yup... then thunar should just do it | 06:53 |
Unit193 | Worksforme | 06:54 |
the_3f_rule | Got thunar and gvfs is already the newest version | 06:55 |
the_3f_rule | I'll get more specific. Does gigolo show thumbnails or just file names | 06:56 |
Sysi | that gvfs "plugins" package you mean? because gvfs is what uses it :) | 06:57 |
Sysi | do you have gvfs-browser or something set in gigolo preferences? change it to thunar | 06:58 |
the_3f_rule | I'll look | 06:59 |
Sysi | AFAIK gigolo just makes it possible to browse remote shares with filemanager, but I haven't used it myself | 06:59 |
Unit193 | It mounts | 07:00 |
the_3f_rule | I don't see that option in preferences | 07:00 |
Sysi | first tab, "file manager" | 07:01 |
Sysi | mhm, gvfs-open opens it in thunar for me | 07:02 |
Unit193 | Exactly | 07:02 |
the_3f_rule | Unsurprisingly I was looking in the wrong tab | 07:03 |
the_3f_rule | Holy shit it worked. Only been working on this for a month. Thanks guys | 07:04 |
the_3f_rule | Kick ass! | 07:04 |
Fudge | yeah i got it to work, but cant figure out how to get audio working so i can start orca | 07:48 |
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lighta | hey guys, where can I found a rufus package ? | 09:03 |
bram_ | Hey first of all hope everyone enjoyed their christmas. | 09:52 |
bram_ | I've a query if anyone is online for support? | 09:55 |
pkug | Hi there, how can I get multitouch gestures working on Xubuntu ? Is it possible to get zoom-in/out, page-up/down and such ? I have a Synaptics touchpad.. | 10:23 |
Sysi | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Multitouch/Ginn | 10:29 |
TheSheep | pkug: install and run gpointing-device-settings | 10:29 |
Ben64 | There is no notification that updates are available in the panel, how can I make that appear? | 10:32 |
Sysi | should happen by default, you need update-manager and maybe it in autostarted applications | 10:33 |
Sysi | notification applet might be update-notifier | 10:34 |
pitlimit | With gnome, I was able to monitor cpu usage by adding an applet to a panel | 12:07 |
pitlimit | This functionality is no longer available with xubuntu... can anyone help me to get it working again? | 12:08 |
Sysi | there's xfce4-cpugraph-plugin | 12:08 |
TheSheep | and a system monitor plugin | 12:09 |
pitlimit | which one of the two has a nicer graphical view :) | 12:11 |
pitlimit | anyway, I get that xfce4-cpugraph-plugin is already the newest version | 12:12 |
pitlimit | when I add it to the panel, it doesn't appear to work | 12:12 |
pitlimit | I just see a white box | 12:13 |
pitlimit | eh too much modification required for xubuntu | 12:14 |
_Pete_ | cpugraph indeed being the most important one :) | 12:14 |
Sysi | ..it's white box which indicates you have very little cpu usage | 12:15 |
Ben64 | gnome has a nicer graphical cpu monitor | 12:19 |
Ben64 | i tried to get it to work with xfapplet, but xfapplet doesn't come with 12.04 | 12:20 |
Sysi | it broke after gnome3 | 12:20 |
_Pete_ | imo gkrellm is da best | 12:20 |
Ben64 | don't know what to do after 12.04 | 12:20 |
Ben64 | i can't use unity, and gnome 3 is almost as bad | 12:20 |
Ben64 | :( | 12:21 |
Sysi | gnome-shell is quite nice and simple, fallback reminded me about old gnome (but with better settings manager) | 12:21 |
Ben64 | the themes are very bad and non-customizable | 12:22 |
Sysi | greybird worked nicely | 12:22 |
Ben64 | in gnome 2, you could change colors of certain elements if you wanted | 12:22 |
Sysi | I tried that and I ended up finding better theme on gnome-look.org | 12:23 |
Ben64 | i've got a while to play with it on my test machine before I have to upgrade on this one | 12:23 |
Ben64 | xfce is nice, but I'd like better applets, and would want to see when updates are available | 12:25 |
Sysi | that works by default on xubuntu and I told you how you should get on any xfce build on xubuntu | 12:26 |
Sysi | *on ubuntu, anyway | 12:26 |
pitlimit | When I choose to add the cpu and mem monitors to the panel, they don't work | 12:27 |
pitlimit | when I reboot, they simply completely disappear | 12:27 |
pitlimit | Can anyone help me to get the monitors working? | 12:28 |
Ben64 | update-notifier was running, there was 3 updates available, there was no icon | 12:29 |
Sysi | Ben64: check that you have notification area and indicator applet in your panel | 12:29 |
Ben64 | yeah they're there | 12:30 |
pitlimit | Sysi, I have what you suggested I use installed | 12:30 |
Sysi | hum, weird | 12:30 |
pitlimit | but no matter what I do, they do not add to the panel | 12:30 |
Sysi | pitlimit: weird, no problem for me | 12:30 |
pitlimit | I started with the regular ubuntu | 12:30 |
pitlimit | I HATED unity and so switched over to xubuntu | 12:31 |
pitlimit | I'm not sure that transition had anything to do with it | 12:31 |
Sysi | shouldn't have.. | 12:31 |
Ben64 | i did the same, cpu and mem monitor works fine | 12:31 |
Sysi | run cat ~/.xsession-errors in terminal and pastebin output | 12:31 |
pitlimit | ugh I love that little window that tells me the work loa | 12:31 |
pitlimit | d | 12:31 |
Sysi | !pastebin | 12:31 |
ubottu | For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic. | 12:31 |
Ben64 | its not the same style as gnome's though | 12:32 |
pitlimit | yeah :( | 12:32 |
pitlimit | as long as it works | 12:32 |
pitlimit | okay I will pastebin it | 12:32 |
Sysi | systemload plugin seems to be only usage bar but cpugraph has both | 12:32 |
Ben64 | i couldn't find a memory graph for xfce | 12:33 |
Sysi | I had to use quite a bit of memory to see bar at all | 12:34 |
Sysi | cpugraph settings apparently can only be accessed trough panel settings -> items | 12:35 |
pitlimit | Sysi, http://pastebin.com/FU4M6JEu | 12:35 |
pitlimit | dude there's a lot of errors in there | 12:36 |
Ben64 | I really like how mine is set up in gnome :( http://ben64.com/bar.png | 12:36 |
pitlimit | yeah, I like that too Ben64 | 12:36 |
pitlimit | But I LOVE xubuntu's layout | 12:36 |
pitlimit | and gnome on unity doesn't work very well | 12:36 |
Ben64 | no it doesn't | 12:36 |
pitlimit | it's terrible | 12:36 |
Sysi | Ben64: man that's a mess | 12:37 |
pitlimit | I tried to drink the kool-aid they are selling over at ubuntu and tried to use it but i just could not | 12:37 |
Ben64 | Sysi: :( | 12:37 |
Marzata | why the change layout option need to be set up every time after reboot? | 12:37 |
pitlimit | I want it to look that way too Sysi | 12:37 |
pitlimit | I want the monitor graph | 12:37 |
pitlimit | I like how you can click on it and see everything | 12:37 |
Marzata | system monitor? | 12:38 |
Ben64 | cpu temp, gpu temp, cpu freq, cpu graph, mem graph, workspaces, notification area, time, user status, power | 12:38 |
Ben64 | its awesome | 12:38 |
Sysi | Marzata: what option? | 12:38 |
pitlimit | Ben64, are you leaving unity too | 12:38 |
pitlimit | Sysi, did you see my pastebin :) | 12:38 |
Ben64 | pitlimit: yeah, on my test system | 12:38 |
Marzata | Sysi: I have 3 keyboard layouts | 12:38 |
Ben64 | i'm waiting to upgrade on this one | 12:38 |
Ben64 | can't have a broken main computer | 12:38 |
pitlimit | i see | 12:38 |
pitlimit | I'm torn ... I just want everything to WORK so I want to like and use unity | 12:39 |
Ben64 | i'm on 10.04 still here | 12:39 |
Marzata | Sysi: I use the super button to change them. but Xubuntu never remembers that after reboot. | 12:39 |
Sysi | pitlimit: yeah, you didn't try adding those plugins during that logging or something other is not working | 12:39 |
pitlimit | :( | 12:39 |
pitlimit | I don't want to go back to using unity but things don't seem to just... WORK on xubuntu | 12:39 |
Ben64 | i don't like how unity is like mac | 12:39 |
Sysi | you should check out gnome3 fallback | 12:39 |
Marzata | pitlimit: can't you install it with a plugin. it was possile before. | 12:40 |
Ben64 | i don't want a bar at the top all the time | 12:40 |
pitlimit | yeah Ben64 | 12:40 |
pitlimit | which plugin Marzata | 12:40 |
pitlimit | my plugin IS installed | 12:40 |
pitlimit | it just won't work | 12:40 |
Sysi | I didn't check fallback panel options very much but it's not totally crippled | 12:40 |
pitlimit | Sysi, the thing is, unity takes over | 12:41 |
pitlimit | You cannot customize things very easily | 12:41 |
Sysi | pitlimit: neither cpugraph-plugin or systemload monitor work? | 12:41 |
pitlimit | I'll try one at a time | 12:41 |
Sysi | pitlimit: you're not forced to use unity, select whatever you want on login | 12:41 |
pitlimit | You lose functionality sysi - I don't know... if I can get xubuntu to do what I want, it's the easiest to customize | 12:42 |
Ben64 | yeah, everything is designed for unity now, makes other stuff kinda messy | 12:42 |
pitlimit | It's hard to explain Sysi you need to try it yourself :) | 12:43 |
Sysi | pitlimit: do you have all updates installed? | 12:43 |
pitlimit | It's pretty... crappy | 12:43 |
Ben64 | unity is like windows 8 :| | 12:43 |
pitlimit | yes Sysi | 12:43 |
pitlimit | i'm going to try to log out and in again | 12:43 |
pitlimit | to see if it sticks | 12:43 |
Ben64 | an os that should be on a mobile device, not a real computer | 12:43 |
pitlimit | I am now using the system load monitor | 12:43 |
pitlimit | No nice graph though :( | 12:43 |
Sysi | unity is messy, I liked gnome-shell much better | 12:44 |
Sysi | but I think it's much better on fullhd desktop than netbook | 12:45 |
Sysi | KDE sure is customizable but you can get lost with all switches of course | 12:47 |
Sysi | if I wanted good system monitoring without kde's plasma Iäd probably use conky | 12:48 |
pitlimit | every time i log out and log back in, the stuff I added to the panel disappears | 12:48 |
Marzata | there was a plugin to be able to install gnome 2.x applets in Xfce | 12:48 |
TheSheep | pitlimit: do you have any free space in your home directory? | 12:48 |
pitlimit | hm | 12:49 |
pitlimit | fdisk -l? | 12:49 |
pitlimit | is that how I check | 12:49 |
TheSheep | Marzata: it's gone | 12:49 |
TheSheep | pitlimit: df -h | 12:49 |
pitlimit | I have 357 gigs | 12:49 |
Sysi | thunar should show at the bottom of window | 12:50 |
TheSheep | pitlimit: did you change the ownership or rights of files or directories in your home? | 12:50 |
Sysi | have you used filemanager with sudo, had same home for several installations? | 12:50 |
pitlimit | TheSheep, my home is encrypted | 12:51 |
pitlimit | does that make a difference | 12:51 |
TheSheep | no | 12:51 |
pitlimit | Sysi, I upgraded from 11.04 | 12:51 |
Marzata | TheSheep: not avail in xfce4 goodies anymore? | 12:51 |
TheSheep | Marzata: it doesn't work with the new broken gnome | 12:51 |
Sysi | Marzata: well, those applets are gone anyway | 12:51 |
Marzata | gone? | 12:51 |
TheSheep | like tears in the rain | 12:52 |
Marzata | you need gnome 2.x and xfce. | 12:52 |
Marzata | what is gone? | 12:52 |
Sysi | gnome 2 | 12:52 |
Marzata | gnome 2.x not in the 11.10 repos? | 12:52 |
pitlimit | wait so are others in here having problems with disappearing applets? | 12:53 |
pitlimit | or applets that don't appear to work? | 12:53 |
Sysi | possibly have had | 12:53 |
* Marzata moved to Xubuntu long time ago and love it. | 12:53 | |
Sysi | would you mind losing your personal settings? | 12:53 |
pitlimit | who me, Sysi ? | 12:54 |
pitlimit | Marzata, did you have problems with applets not working | 12:54 |
Sysi | pitlimit: yes | 12:54 |
Marzata | pitlimit: in Xubu? | 12:54 |
pitlimit | what kind of personal settings | 12:54 |
pitlimit | yes Marzata | 12:54 |
Sysi | like panel setup | 12:54 |
Marzata | pitlimit: what applets in Xfce are not wroking? | 12:54 |
pitlimit | cpu monitor Marzata and memory monitor | 12:55 |
Marzata | I have them working. | 12:55 |
pitlimit | they show up while I add them, but if I log out and log back in, they are gone! | 12:55 |
Marzata | pitlimit: have you wrote there the correct net interface? esp. in the net monitor. | 12:55 |
pitlimit | what does that mean Marzata | 12:55 |
Sysi | he's not using net monitor, mem and cpu should just work and not disapper by themselves anyway | 12:56 |
pitlimit | I guess while you're helping me, you may call me he | 12:56 |
pitlimit | Overall, everything is working alright, but I really do want the CPU/memory monitor to work | 12:57 |
pitlimit | I rely on it | 12:57 |
pitlimit | Also, I hate using top | 12:57 |
pitlimit | so archaic | 12:57 |
Sysi | if you're she, pardon | 12:57 |
Marzata | use htop | 12:57 |
pitlimit | Marzata, I want the pretty little graph on panel 1 :) | 12:58 |
Marzata | pitlimit: the Xfce one? | 12:58 |
pitlimit | what's interesting is that when I add the system load monitor, it adds it to the very right of the top panel | 12:59 |
pitlimit | to the right of the date | 12:59 |
pitlimit | to the right also of my login name | 12:59 |
Sysi | that's default, you can drag from list anywhere you want | 12:59 |
pitlimit | oh | 12:59 |
pitlimit | Marzata, I don't know what the Xfce one is | 12:59 |
pitlimit | I just want something working with a pretty graph I can look at when I click on it | 12:59 |
Marzata | pitlimit: are you using Ubuntu or Xubuntu? | 13:00 |
pitlimit | xubuntu | 13:00 |
pitlimit | I switched from Ubuntu last week | 13:00 |
pitlimit | well Sysi dragging is not working | 13:00 |
Marzata | then just add net the Network monitor in the panel | 13:00 |
pitlimit | Marzata, it doesn't hold | 13:00 |
pitlimit | it sticks for the session | 13:01 |
pitlimit | then disappears | 13:01 |
Sysi | pitlimit: something is totally wrong with your panel | 13:01 |
Marzata | can we see a screen shot? | 13:01 |
pitlimit | okay | 13:01 |
pitlimit | Where should I paste the image to | 13:06 |
pitlimit | It's killing me i've wasted this much time on this matter | 13:06 |
pitlimit | dudes, I'm switching back | 13:07 |
pitlimit | this is slightly ridiculous | 13:07 |
Marzata | http://sharesend.com/ | 13:08 |
Marzata | http://bapoumba.wordpress.com/2008/01/04/add-gnome-applets-to-the-xfce-panel/ is this still working? | 13:11 |
Sysi | no | 13:11 |
_DeLa_ | Hello Xubuntu, Good-bye Linux Mint :-ł | 13:53 |
_DeLa_ | I acutally feel like that booting up was a bit faster wwith mint 11 / gnome 2, but once the apps are startet, switching between them seems a lot faster with xubuntu | 13:54 |
projekt26 | hah | 13:54 |
projekt26 | stupid sexy mint | 13:55 |
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DeLa|AFK | should I enable canonical partner software as a software source? | 16:11 |
TheSheep | DeLa|AFK: if you want | 16:11 |
DeLa|AFK | what kind of software would be accessable through this option? | 16:12 |
DeLa|AFK | or: why isn*t this option enabled as a standard? | 16:12 |
ablomen | DeLa|AFK, because there is propertary software in there, and some people get all mad when that is enabled by default | 16:18 |
DeLa|AFK | ah, I see. thanks! | 16:18 |
DeLa|AFK | well, a little "free beer" has not killed anybody yet ;-) | 16:18 |
ablomen | yeah i agree, but some don't so i guess the checkbox is a good option | 16:22 |
DeLa|AFK | yes, you are right | 16:23 |
DeLa|AFK | another question: how do I install new software packages that are not in the software sources? When I try, I can open it with software center and get the message that there is no software with the name xyz - which is of course right, otherwise I wouldn't download it | 16:27 |
ablomen | depends on what kind of installer you have, if it is a .deb file for the right distro and version you should be able to just double-click it | 16:29 |
xsl | is it possible to remove the powerbutton from the lightdm, or how do i deny people to press it. | 16:30 |
neronin | Hi! Im trying to use the CPU Frequency Monitor that ships with xubuntu to reduce my cpu speed. When it sits in the panel i can click on it and supposedly change the "governor" to "power save" performance" etc. But when i chose either one of those options it always defaults back to "ondemand" when i close and re-open it | 16:42 |
neronin | Any idea why it doesnt stick to what i selected? | 16:42 |
mongy | xsl, the config you need is /usr/share/polkit-1/actions/org.freedesktop.consolekit.policy | 17:32 |
StormStrikes | Anyone here using a HP OfficeJet Pro 8600 printer? | 17:36 |
Crash_O-D | how do you get the sd card to show in list to open it | 18:16 |
scopic | Hi all | 19:47 |
scopic | I was wondering if anyone can help me with getting bluetooth working in 11.10, answer some questions. It is for a keyboard, so should be simple...any yet it refuses to pair right | 19:48 |
scopic | and* | 19:48 |
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fivedaysahead | I am stuck on the login screen in xubuntu i had set up automatic login with automatic password and it was working fine but now i restarted my comp and i am stuck on the login screen I have can click login and it goes to a black screen with some stuff like it would normally do if it was giong to login but then comes back to the login screen | 20:58 |
Sysi | log in to Ctrl Alt F5 terminal and run "rm -rf ~/.ICEauthority" | 21:04 |
Sysi | back to GUI with Ctrl Alt F7 | 21:04 |
fivedaysahead | can i do this remotely? | 21:05 |
fivedaysahead | or do i have to do it on the comp | 21:05 |
genii-around | On the computer | 21:05 |
Sysi | removing that file should work remotely too (ssh) | 21:06 |
fivedaysahead | ok | 21:06 |
fivedaysahead | will try | 21:06 |
fivedaysahead | sudo rm? | 21:06 |
fivedaysahead | ok removed it | 21:07 |
fivedaysahead | now should i just turn the comp off and back on and see if that did anything? | 21:07 |
Sysi | yeah I think sudo reboot would work | 21:08 |
fivedaysahead | you sure | 21:09 |
fivedaysahead | are a genius | 21:09 |
fivedaysahead | it worked perfectly | 21:09 |
fivedaysahead | what does that file do anyways? | 21:09 |
fivedaysahead | thank you so much! | 21:09 |
fivedaysahead | is there a way to stop apache2 server from starting automatically without make a script to stop it at startup? i guess that way works probably not the best way though | 21:11 |
Sysi | I'm not sure what ICE is, something with login authorization | 21:11 |
Sysi | I'm not really familiar with upstart config | 21:11 |
fivedaysahead | thanks again! | 21:12 |
fivedaysahead | what did the ~/ do? | 21:12 |
Sysi | ~ means your home folder | 21:13 |
Sysi | http://askubuntu.com/questions/19320/whats-the-recommend-way-to-enable-disable-services | 21:13 |
fivedaysahead | thanks! | 21:13 |
Marzata | we have bunch of xubuntu machines, all ntped to net time servers but all clocks show different times. how is this possible? | 21:26 |
TheSheep | Marzata: timezones? | 21:30 |
Marzata | no, they are in the same time zone, the difference is +/- 30 seconds | 21:32 |
TheSheep | Marzata: that's strange, they should automatically detect their skew and synchronise eventually | 21:39 |
fivedaysahead | Sysi thanks again! | 22:49 |
Sysi | np | 22:50 |
fivedaysahead | removing that file did the trick | 22:51 |
fivedaysahead | now for another question | 22:51 |
fivedaysahead | when i'm on the ubuntu comp and type echo $DISPLAY i get a blank line output | 22:51 |
Sysi | you don't have that variable set | 22:52 |
fivedaysahead | am i suppose to set it? | 22:52 |
Sysi | export DISPLAY=:0.0 | 22:52 |
Sysi | I'm not sure about correct value | 22:52 |
fivedaysahead | am i suppose to set it? | 22:53 |
fivedaysahead | or is it fine not to have it set | 22:53 |
Sysi | when not running xorg I guess it usually isn't set | 22:54 |
fivedaysahead | what's Xorg | 22:54 |
fivedaysahead | just X? | 22:54 |
fivedaysahead | sorry i'm a newb haha | 22:54 |
Sysi | xorg/X/X11 | 22:55 |
fivedaysahead | i mean i have the comp set up and logged in with gui so i guess X is running? right | 22:55 |
fivedaysahead | if i run from my ssh terminal > DISPLAY=:0 xcalc it opens on my remote machine if i change that 0 to a 10 it will open on my machine because i have enabled x11 forwarding | 22:57 |
Sysi | I'm not sure how that stuff works | 22:58 |
TheSheep | if you ssh to it with -X and -Y options, ssh will automatically set DISPLAY to the right value | 22:59 |
fivedaysahead | one question do you even know if this is possible where say i call xcalc through ssh and it opens in both my machine and and the remote machine becuase with changing that display i can set it to open on either my remote or my machine just wondering if it is possible to do both | 22:59 |
TheSheep | and will handle tunneling | 22:59 |
fivedaysahead | i'm using putty and xming | 23:00 |
TheSheep | fivedaysahead: it's not possible to do both, and with the current X implementation it's not possible to move it once it's running | 23:00 |
fivedaysahead | thank you very much was just wondering if it was possible that'd be cool if it was | 23:00 |
TheSheep | fivedaysahead: you can run two copies | 23:01 |
fivedaysahead | that's true but i was thinking more along the lines of it being like vnc but just one program that i can open on my computer and not have to see the whole desktop and also have it open on the remote computer | 23:02 |
fivedaysahead | can you vnc just one program? instead of the whole desktop | 23:03 |
TheSheep | I'm not sure if vns supports it, I'm sure the remote desktop does | 23:03 |
TheSheep | s/vns/vnc | 23:03 |
fivedaysahead | i'm running x11vnc and i remote in with the java client it works quite nicely actually | 23:03 |
fivedaysahead | just wondering if there's a way to just do one program so you think the remote desktop might be capable? | 23:04 |
TheSheep | remote desktop can do that, but it's for windows | 23:04 |
fivedaysahead | i'm running windows | 23:05 |
TheSheep | x forwarding over ssh does that too | 23:05 |
fivedaysahead | and xubuntu on my other machine | 23:05 |
fivedaysahead | x forwarding over ssh will allow me to do just one program but can i run that in both comps at the same time like say my machine and the remote machine | 23:05 |
TheSheep | fivedaysahead: x forwarding runs the program on the remote machine but makes it display everything on the local machine | 23:06 |
TheSheep | fivedaysahead: you cannot make it display on both machines | 23:06 |
fivedaysahead | that's what i was wondering thanks | 23:06 |
skegeek | How do you completely disable xscreensaver? | 23:16 |
fivedaysahead | settings then you should see screensaver in there and then disable it | 23:17 |
fivedaysahead | or i think you might be able to completey remove it | 23:17 |
fivedaysahead | sudo apt-get purge xscreensaver | 23:17 |
skegeek | Aren't libcairo, libgtk-pixbuf, libpango needed for Xubuntu to operate? | 23:19 |
Sysi | then you probably should go with it's settings | 23:20 |
fivedaysahead | i honestly don't know enough to tell | 23:20 |
Sysi | you may want to check power managment settings too | 23:20 |
skegeek | Well, apt said they're no longer needed when I removed gnome-screensaver and again when I removed xscreensaver | 23:21 |
skegeek | xscreensaver I believe was causing freezing | 23:22 |
fivedaysahead | yikes | 23:22 |
skegeek | When I had gnome-screensaver installed it was only freezing when using Gnome. But, afterword the screen started just going black and stopped returning to desktop. | 23:23 |
fivedaysahead | even after moving the mouse or hitting space it was still black? | 23:23 |
Sysi | well, if nothing but those libs are removed with apps they aren't needed for functioning | 23:25 |
skegeek | It didn't remove them, it suggests removing them. | 23:26 |
Sysi | ah, apt-get autoremove or run apt-get install on them if you're worried | 23:26 |
skegeek | It suggests removing: datrie, gdk-pixbuf, pixman, xinerama, xft2,thai, jasper, pango, xcb-render, xcursor, xcb-shm0, xrandr, gtk2 | 23:28 |
skegeek | All of their lib packages, that is. | 23:28 |
fivedaysahead | it suggest removing xinerama is that installed by default? | 23:29 |
skegeek | I'm just not sure why it suggests removing them, I would that at least gtk2, xrandr, and pango would be needed for the desktop. | 23:29 |
fivedaysahead | it suggest removing xrandr?? i don't think you want to do that | 23:29 |
Sysi | okay, apt-get autoremove would probably tell you it's gonna remove entire xfce | 23:29 |
skegeek | I would assume so. Makes me curious why apt would be suggesting to do so. | 23:30 |
Sysi | you may wanna run apt-get install to those libs so that it stops suggesting removing them | 23:30 |
Sysi | because apt thinks they're not needed because packages you removed needed them | 23:30 |
Sysi | I prefer aptitude, it's smarter | 23:31 |
fivedaysahead | i've nver used aptitutde does it have the same repsoitories by default? | 23:31 |
skegeek | Same as synaptic | 23:31 |
Sysi | it functions on top of apt | 23:31 |
Sysi | like synaptic | 23:31 |
fivedaysahead | ooh it's gui? | 23:31 |
Sysi | no, it can be used via ncurses "GUI" or by commands | 23:32 |
skegeek | apt and aptitude are command line utilities, Synaptic is a gui frontend to them if I'm not mistaken. | 23:32 |
fivedaysahead | got it | 23:32 |
fivedaysahead | just installed it | 23:33 |
fivedaysahead | thanks | 23:33 |
fivedaysahead | what's the best webcam software out there? | 23:39 |
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